City Council - Regular Meeting

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Sorry about that. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to the Thursday, July 16th, 2026 full council meeting. Thank you for joining us here and thank you for joining us on Facebook and YouTube and whenever you get to see us. All right. At this time, I will ask Mr. David advice to come to the podium and pray. If you would, after Mr. David, uh, praise, uh, remain standing for a 32nd moment of silence and, uh, join me with the pledges of allegiance afterwards. Thank you so much, Mr. Vice.

Heavenly father. We thank you so much for your kindness, your grace, your mercy, and certainly your patients. And while we don't deserve you, we're thankful that you're always faithful to your word. You've never forsaken us and you're here with us tonight. We're going to need your guidance in the decisions that are to be made. We take joy in your presence and look forward to see what you do this evening. In Christ's name, amen.

If you would join me to pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Ms. Skelton, will you give us a roll call, please?

Mr. George. Here. Ms. Wetzel. Here. Ms. Young. Here. Mr. Olsen. Mr. Bradley. Here. Mr. Pearson. Present. Mr. Gray. Here. Mr. Keller.

Here.

Mayor Teague. Here. Mr. Smith. And myself. Do you have a quorum?

All right. Thank you so much.

You're welcome.

At this time, ladies and gentlemen, if you had an opportunity to look over the minutes for the June 25, 26, 2026 meeting, and I will entertain a motion.

Motion to approve.

Second. I have a motion and a second. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? All right. Note that the minutes have been approved. At this time, I welcome Ms. Brittany Baker, our finance director, to the podium for this month's financial report.

All right, for your viewing pleasure. General fund June revenue totaled 1,479,746. Of that, 1,098,047 was sales tax and state turn back. 43,166 was franchise fees and permits. 338,533 was all other revenue. This is a tax revenue comparison. It's a year-to-date analysis. Half cent was $2,951,995.53. The city's portion of the county was $3,539,442.32, both of which is above last year and above budget projections. General Fund June expenditures totaled $1,729,440. Of that, $1,252,241 were personnel-related expenses, $477,199 were utilities and other. This included a quarterly 9-11 expense as well. Street fund revenue for the month of June totaled $909,553. Of that, $581,784 was street sales tax, $246,463 was state turn back and ad valorem, $80,792 was interest, $200 was street cutting permit, $314 was all other revenue. street fund expenditures operational expenditures for june total 228 947 of that 147 015 were personnel related expenses 81 932 were utilities and other capital capital expenses total nine thousand two hundred seventy seven that was towards traffic equipment and vehicle expense which was an inverter and spool street sales tax spending total nine hundred ninety eight thousand 392 that was towards drainage maintenance pavement preservation downtown improvements us 64 east pedestrian improvements us 7 south and reasoner signal improvements and the muskogee trail state turn back street projects totaled zero for june In the economic development funds, June revenue was $172,202. Of that, $154,446 was sales tax and rent. $17,756 was interest. June expenditures was $119,362. Of that, $34,633 were utilities. This is the TCW fiber. $84,729 was capital expenditures, and that was for the recycling station. Below are the balances of the economic development funds as of the end of June. In totality, those three funds totaled $5,555,287.93. In the capital asset fund, June's revenue was $418, all of which was interest. There were no expenditures in the capital asset fund. Blows a breakdown of the one cent sales tax. This began in 2021. It was renewed this year. What's been received, what's been spent, and the balances of each of those four funds. In totality, those cash balances at the end of June were $20,813,470.92. And if there are no questions, that concludes the finance report.

Thank you so much, Ms. Baker. All right, our departmental report. this month is from our HR director, Ms. Tinessa Vaughan.

All right. Good evening, everyone. Part of your council packets include the HR report. It includes information on hiring, employee benefits, training initiatives, turnover, workforce information, other important key metrics that, you know, are, that happened in the past year. Those numbers are important, but what's really important and what truly makes our city a success are our employees that work for the city. So tonight we're doing something a little bit different. I hope the sound quality is going to work okay. We kind of tested this earlier. But there's going to be a short video introducing some of the incredible people that work for the city. and that serve our community every day. We invite you to get to know some of our staff that are dedicated and kind of behind the scenes. Their experience, their professionalism, and their commitment to public service, they help make our city a great place to live, work, and visit. So on behalf of the human resources department and the mayor's office, I want to thank all the employees that, um, are featured in this video tonight. And further, I'd like to thank all of our city employees for their continued dedication to the city of Russellville.

Hi, I'm September Pignate. I work here at the Hughes Center and Public Works and I clean the building. I've been working here for nine years.

I'm Gavin Wilson. I am the city planner and I've been working here for one year.

Hi, I'm Victoria Marchant and I've been with the city for six years and I work in planning and development.

Hi, my name is Patrick Karp. I've been with the city for four years and I'm the airport director.

My name is Kenneth Duvall. I am the public works director. I've worked here 29 plus years. I really love my job because I like helping people.

Hi, I'm Kelly Dinkel and I'm the grants administrator. My office is here at City Hall and I've been with the city a little over three years and I absolutely love what I do. Hey everyone, this is Debbie Headley. I work in the mayor's office and I have been with the city of Russellville for six years.

I've been with the city for four and a half years. I'm the lineman out at the airport. We cut grass and gas up airplanes.

Hola. Welcome to the city attorney's office. My name is Claudia, and I just wanted to let you know that one of the things that I love to do here is to help the Hispanic community and be a liaison to those, you know, that have issues with English, you know, be able to use my Spanish skills. So for that, thank you.

Hi, I'm Greg Salazar. for the city for eight years now. I'm blessed to be able to be here and get to work with all these great people.

Hi, I'm Robin Kendall. I've been working for the city for four years now and I am the admin assistant for the Russellville Fire Department. Hi, I'm Deanna, and I've been with the city for five years.

Hi, I'm Lisa, and I've been with the city for three years. My name is Brittany, and I've been with the city for two years. And we are the finance department.

Terry Thomas, I'm the parks and rec director for the city of Russellville. I've been here for 28 years. Hey, I'm Mason Gresham.

I've been with the Russell Police Department for four years in the patrol division, and I help teach DT for the department.

I'm Mike Vernon, Director of Animal Control. I've been with the city for 38 years.

My name is Mariah Jeffco. I'm the Recreation Program Manager for the City of Russellville Parks and Rec Department. I've been here going on two years. I love my job because I get to invest in the youth and bring youth programs to the City of Russellville.

Hi, my name is Nikki Duvall. I'm a permit tech for the city of Prestonville. I've been here for almost four and a half years. I do enjoy working for the city. It's much more laid back than the other jobs I've had, but I do enjoy helping anyone if they have questions.

Chris Lewis. I'm the traffic superintendent. I've been here for six years.

Madeline. I'm interning with the public works department this summer and I also interned last summer.

hi my name is Armando i've been here at the city for five years i'm an engineer technician and public works.

Hey, this is Sarah John Dahl, and I'm the Historic Preservation Officer, the Floodplain Manager, the Sustainability Director for the City of Russellville, and I just really enjoy helping to make this community better for everyone.

James Shirley, Fleet Supervisor.

I've been here for six years. Benino Garay, I've been here for four years. I'm Equipment Operator One. I'm Bryce Davenport. I've been with the Russellville Police Department for 37 years now. I'm currently in the training division and micro.

Hello, I'm Roberto Aponte. I'm the quartermaster slash ambulance technician for the Russell Police Department and I've been here for close to 18 years.

My name is Aaron Trimble. I am the GIS department head over here and I basically make tools to help other people within the city do their jobs a little bit better.

Hi, my name is Rachel Duvall and I am an intern at Recreation and Parks. I chose the city of Rustville to intern at because I saw how much my dad loves the city and I would love to give back to this incredible community.

I'm Jake.

I'm an operator one. I've been here for four years. I'm Danny. I've worked here for 15 years and I'm a Supervisor I.

Junior, Marple, Public Works Operations Manager. I've been here for 15 years.

I'm Karen Evans. I am a Permit Technician here for the City of Russellville and I've been here for three months.

My name is Kayla. I'm Public Works Reception. I've been here for two years. I take all of the first calls that come in for any concerns. I'm a helper by nature, so I enjoy making sure that people's requests and concerns for the city, no matter which department they go to here in our building, gets to who they need to get to and they're completed. So, but I enjoy working for the city of Russellville.

Hi, I'm Desiree. I am the Public Works Construction Inspector for the City of Russellville and I have been here since April of 2026.

I'm Kirk Sloan. I have been with the Russell Fire Department for 34 years and tomorrow is my last day. I am retiring and I tell you that I have no regrets. I have had a fantastic 34 years. The people that I've gotten to work with and had the privilege to work with and work for have been fantastic. I would do it all again. And I am excited about my new phase in life.

Good job. From three months to 37 and 38 years and 34 years, that's incredible. It's awesome.

Does anybody have any questions about anything? All right. Thank you.

Thank you. All right. That's awesome. Thank you. Our people are truly our best asset. We are blessed to have a lot of amazing people. At this time, Chairman Gray, do you have anything? No report, Mayor. Mr. Keller, Chairman Keller, do you have anything for us on finance?

Yes, Mayor. Just a couple items this evening. uh... item uh... from our meeting at five thirty today item one is an appropriation with the parks and rec once in sales tax fund zero eight in the sum of one thousand eight hundred sixty dollars to fund the remaining cost of a twenty foot trailer parks and rec we present item one as a motion to adopt all right we have a motion to adopt on item one all in favor any opposed Item 2 is also an appropriation from the Parks and Rec 1-Cent Sales Tax 08 in the amount of $7,031.90 to fund the Shiloh Park Restroom Wastewater System Design Services. We present item 2 as a motion to adopt.

I've got a motion to adopt on item 2. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? All right, item 3.

Item three is consideration of a resolution to authorize the mayor and the city clerk treasurer to apply for and accept two grants for the Russellville Municipal Airport to replace the existing PAPI system and conduct a flight check at the airport. We present item three as a motion to adopt.

I have a motion to adopt on item three. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Item four.

Item 4 is an appropriation from the Economic Development Capital Fund 27 in the amount of $263,120 to fund the purchase of replacement airport PAPI lights, which stands for Precision Approach Path Indicator. We present item 4 as a motion to adopt.

I've got a motion to adopt on item 4. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Moving on.

Item 5 is an appropriation from the sales tax fund 07 in the amount of $83,790. This is to fund the ladder truck tube refurbishment change and orders and equipment. So we change order and equipment. We present item 5 as a motion to adopt.

Have a motion to adopt. All in favor? Any opposed? All right.

I'm 6 is consideration of an ordinance approving the private club permit. For Morelos Mexican grill. Required as required by the state private club permit application to the Arkansas alcoholic beverage control division. We suspend the rules dispense with the reading requirements read by title with short explanation. For the first of 2 readings.

I have a motion and a second on the reading, suspending the rules, read by title only with a short explanation. All in favor? Any opposed? All right, sir.

Or it's approved as city private club permit from Morales, Mexican grill club incorporated as required by the state private club permit application to the Arkansas alcoholic beverage control division price. The a section three dash nine dash two 22 has amended for other purposes. The report is passed with grant a city permit for on assumption on premise, I'll call it consumption at Morales, Mexican grill club at 1310 East main street.

Thank you, sir.

Item seven is consideration of an ordinance approving the private club permit for Heartland Pizza LLC as required by the state club permit application to the Arkansas Alcoholic Beverage Control Division. Move we suspend the rules, dispense with the reading requirement, read by title only with short explanation for the first of two readings.

I've got a motion and it's not that I don't have a second of emotion in a second. It's been the rules read by title only with a short explanation. I do want to say for the public watching Heartland Pizza LLC is also known as Pizza Hut. So just so that everyone knows I've got the I've got a motion in a second. All in favor. Any opposed? All right, sir.

Uh, move. I'm sorry.

Sorry. An ordinance approving the city private club permit for heartland pizza LLC is required by state private club permit application to the Arkansas control board division for ACA section three dash nine, just two 22 as a minute for the purpose or to pass would approve a city on purpose alcohol consumption permit at heartland pizza. Also known as pizza hut at five Oh two North Arkansas Avenue. Thank you, sir.

Moving on to our agenda from last Tuesday. Item one is consideration of a resolution to authorize the mayor and the city clerk treasurer to sign an economic development agreement with Russellville TRLLC for the reimbursement of site development. This was submitted by the mayor. We present item one as a motion to adopt.

I have a motion to adopt. I also have three gentlemen who have asked to speak. Our first will be Mr. Zach Summitt. Mr. Summitt, I think you know the routine. This is old hat to you now, so.

Thank you. I'm Zach Summitt. from the Old South Restaurant for the council votes. I appreciate everybody taking time to talk with me about this. I appreciate your viewpoints and your concern for the city. I think everybody here wants the best for Russellville. And though we may disagree strongly about things, I appreciate all you guys and the heart behind what you do and the decisions you make. I attended to be here last Tuesday at the agenda prep. There was a, on the side it says the 14th and so I didn't know it was happening until 30 minutes before it was and it was dinner time. So anyway, I do have a few questions I'd like council to talk about if they can before they vote. To just nail down exactly how the clawbacks work, when they go into effect, when they stop. I think some, there's some, I had thought that Roadhouse would be providing reports saying that they are fulfilling whatever, but I don't think that's exactly how that works. I think once they go in the building, we're done with that, but just like to clarify that. And I'm concerned about how this decision affects future decisions. You know, and the value proposition that Bowenkamp brings is, the sales tax leakage that I'd never heard about until recently, and the jobs that they bring, the low-skill, entry-level jobs. There's 120, that's quite a few. But if we are voting based on that, every national chain that comes to town is going to walk in here and they've got the same proposition. they're if they're not already in town they're coming they say we've got sales tax leakage we can help with that we're gonna bring jobs whatever jobs they are and if this is why we're voting on this how do we vote in the future is this something we do every time a national chain comes to town just something to think about I'd like yes talk about that what are we doing in the future we've had an average of two national chains, food chains per year for the last 10 years come to town. Does the city want to see that number go up? If they do, that's fine. Because the mayor and I talked about incentives for a little bit, disagree about how they should be done exactly, but incentives work. And when you incentivize something, you get more of it. And so is the council's position that we want three, four, five a year to come to town over the next 10 years? If we do that, that's fine. I just want that to be clear what we're doing and why we're doing it. Anyway, I did talk to Bowen Kemp, and we sat down, had a long talk, enjoyed our conversation. We disagree, and I wish them all the best. I know I'm not on their Christmas card list, but I appreciate them. I want them to be successful at whatever they do. I would encourage council to reconsider voting or consider voting against this.

Thank you, Mr. Summit. Next to speak is Mr. Don Clark. Looks like Mr. Ligon is going to be joining him at the podium.

Zach, you're on the Christmas list. Don't worry about that. Mayor, Council, we appreciate the opportunity to stand in front of you again. Following the last meeting, as alluded to, we did have the opportunity to come meet with Mr. Summit and hear his concerns, and we appreciated the conversation and the opportunity to better understood where he was coming from. We also took the opportunity to explain that, again, the large national chain name is attached to this project, but the developer is Russellville TRLLC, which is a small business based out of Northwest Arkansas. So as I said before, those national brands, corporate relies on local developers to start the project and act as the landlord. So without those, a lot of those don't happen. So I wanted to point that out. So again, with Mr. Summit in our conversation, we may not agree on every aspect of the request. I think we came to a mutual understanding of what we were asking for. And I think in our conversation, the word that I came up with in hearing his and his father's concerns is equitable. I think there's a desire that these things are equitable across all projects. And so, you know, I think now that we have that conversation, if there is a local need then those are what those economic development funds are for if it meets the initiative so we would agree on that to that point 58 million dollars of annual sales tax leakage in the full service food category whether this project happens or not that is still happening meaning that that shows one thing the excitement of why we're here because there's buying power here and it shows the demand typically what we've seen in other communities speaking for me who used to work in the city who worked in economic development what we saw is when these new places came to town it helped with that leakage because people felt like they had more options and so that small business again the biggest my biggest opponent was my wife that i said across wit because she was a small business owner and i was incentivizing these things but i think she also understood what happened is there's a honeymoon period always is something opens there's a honeymoon period and then things kind of level off and what happened more times than not was that those restaurants saw the boost because people felt like they had more options so show up to one 45-minute wait Let's go across the street. So we just want to be a part of that. This is an opportunity to capture a portion of those dollars that are leaking. It's also an opportunity to activate a currently vacant site. we believe in Russellville ultimately that's why we're here and so we don't take offense to anybody's vote how it goes we understand you all have a job to do we also understand that the people who may be concerned have jobs to do ultimately you know this is something that's been going on for years in the state as far as the state AEDC helping Public funds on large industrial is just this is still very new in the retail space. And so with that being said, we appreciate your consideration. Stand ready for any questions that you have. Thank you, Mr.

yeah i appreciate y'all's time and um glad we were able to have open discussion last week um i really just want to yield my time to mostly answer any questions you may have and i think mr summit does bring up a great point of uh you know the city does need to look and see what they want um and and how they how they vote to see uh what types of incentives they want to try to bridge those gaps with to continue to bring other businesses like this to your town and raise your hand and say you're open for business or continue that leakage elsewhere. Any questions?

I have one quick question. So there will be reporting?

Yes.

Because I know one of the conditions is that you maintain or well Texas Roadhouse maintains 120 jobs and these are not the construction Related jobs, these are actual restaurant-related jobs.

Yes, there's a part-time and full-time mix in there, and then the reporting will come through Chamber of Commerce slash Economic Development annual reports.

And you understand that if and when those jobs numbers fall under and we get those numbers, that the money comes back to us?

yes we understand there is fallback language in there um so yes we're on the same page thank you sir anyone else do what is there the the i think he was saying that the chamber and economic development will be doing the the reporting on behalf of the tenant is it if I don't know what the any point that Mr. Smith is there what's the verbiage on that is that at any point or in the Mr. Clark were you gonna say something sir

well i think to directly answer that question as far as we're under the impression the job numbers are not part of the club we understand there is clawback uh that was tied to i think more of a building permit uh pulling that under a certain time frame um and then there are reports but i don't know that that's tied to the clawback the way it's written mr smith can you advise on that

Pretty sure, it says, if the company fails to fulfill any of its requirements or obligations accepted by it as pronounced in section one, section one includes job creation, 120 jobs, 60 part-time, 60 full-time.

If I may. Yes. So the job creation is a part of that. So the jobs would be created on the front end. The other thing I want to point out, this is why we're asking for a reimbursement. So if we don't perform the demolition, there's no reimbursement. The other thing is that we added to that is if for some reason, one of the callbacks would be for this would be when the money would be paid back. If there was a suit, if somebody filed suit against this and it was found that what we did was illegal, we would reimburse the money. That was that piece of it. But the job creation and the numbers I do do not think was in perpetuity. I think it's the creation of the jobs and bringing in

I don't think it's in perpetuity, but it was for a period of time, if I remember correct. Mr. Smith is advising, looking at the contract to advise.

I thought there was a time frame on the jobs. I think it was a two or three year job. I know there were details about the demolition of the property, destruction of the foundation, how far down you would dig. Um, all those things, you know, to remove the, uh, all the old, you know, everything plumbing and everything else was underneath.

I do know that was in there. It says 120 jobs to be, uh, full time. Um,

yeah honor before august 31st oh so it's saying 120 jobs honor before august 21st 20 20 27. okay but it doesn't it doesn't have anything after the fact it just it's the creation of that and it doesn't have anything um in in perpetuity No. Or in, not in perpetuity, but in for like a two or three year period is what you're saying. So it's just a creation of 120 jobs by the date in 2027.

Yeah, and obviously those jobs, once they're created, talking with the tenant are not intended to really fluctuate. That's going to be what it takes to run their business.

So does it just say 120 jobs, or does it say the 60 full-time, 60 part-time?

60 full-time, 60 part-time, I believe, if I remember right. All right. I'll entertain a motion.

Hold on.

I just wanted to say... Well, we need a second. No, we don't have a... Yeah, I said that.

It was a motion to adopt because it came from the... Yeah, it was.

Okay. So actually, we do have a motion. Okay. So we do go to a vote after Mr. Pearson.

Yeah. I just... I fully believe in free market capitalism. And when you talk about industry, the difference is they're rarely in direct competition with each other. They're just creating jobs in your community. That is not the case in retail. This is absolutely us sticking our hands on the scale and giving aid to one retailer over others. And there's just no way I can support that.

If I could say something real quick. I just want to thank you guys for trying to educate us as best as you can and everybody that I spoke to because I was unclear about a lot of stuff. So having that communication was very helpful and I appreciate that.

Absolutely.

I think that we are in this position because we are growing. The reason that these developers are coming for restaurants is because our chamber and the city have worked very hard over the last few years to bring higher paying jobs so that people can afford to eat out at restaurants. And so the leakage data, the sales tax revenue, all of those things are benefits to our community that the knowledge that we have now to be able to say, I mean, how many times have you heard somebody say, well, I can't do that. I've got to go to Conway because I can't do that here. Or I've got to go to Fort Smith because I can't do that here. This is the growing pains of making it say, oh, I can just go down the road instead of having to go to Fort Smith or Conway or Little Rock. So I appreciate all of the discussion, the back and forth, but I don't know that there is a whole lot of, at some point this decision is gonna be made in favor or as opposed, and I am for it because I think it is a sign of our growth in our town.

Let me ask one quick question, just a point of clarification. I want to follow it up really quick with a comment. So on or before August 31st, this entity will have to have created 60 full-time and 60 full-time jobs.

They're going to have to be open by on or before August 21st. And have those jobs. Do what? And have those jobs. Yes, yes. Okay, okay. So there is a condition.

For the record, that's 2027.

2027, yes.

I understand. I just wanted to make sure that that was an actual condition. Okay. second of all this isn't it may be unusual that that we're creating an economic incentive for a retailer but this is hardly the first time we provided some sort of or indoor some sort of tax whether it be a tax back or some sort of economic incentive a money incentive a public funding incentive to create jobs so i think it's a a bit unusual that we're now drawing the line here i think my attitude is if you have this much money coming back into the city um this this many jobs created in one investment then i think that's a win-win for russellville so all right i'm gonna let you i i know like say i mean if you if you want to say something real quick i mean

I'd like to say, if you would like to say something real quick, Mr. Summit, approach real quick. Yeah, please do.

Roadhouse may be the best thing that ever came to Russellville. And everything they're talking about are good things for Russellville. Sales tax revenue gives you guys more money to spend, jobs. I'm not against any of that. I'm not against Roadhouse coming to town. I don't think this is necessary. And again, how are we going to decide this in the future? Nobody's talked about that yet. How do we do this going forward? Does this continue to be our reaction? And again, if that's how we want to do it, that's all right. I would just like that to be discussed. And Roadhouse is coming to town, whether, in our conversation, whether they build it or not. Roadhouse wants to be in Russellville. There are other places that want to be in Russellville.

don't think we have to pay them to do it i don't think we have paid developers to bring them here but hey to answer your question though for me when i look at things coming forward i'm looking at what's bringing jobs what's bringing revenue and it's definitely not i own a small business i've not got any city money either but i do think what we have to look at every single time is sales tax revenue and jobs for the city and so it's not so much of what's bringing we have to entertain everything we're not always going to approve it but 120 jobs is a lot of jobs

All right. So any more discussion from the council?

I have one more, I have one more thing, um, because I did speak with Mr. Summit and we, he had a very thoughtful and had a, uh, made a lot of good points. And one of the points he made, um, to me that I told him I would bring up at the council meeting and then was surprised to hear it from, um, Bowen Kemp folks was that we do as a council need to think. going forward budget time believe it or not right around the corner uh... with the woodmont thing and now this we do need to think about how we're going to do this going forward uh... because we don't really have a plan things keep getting dropped in our lap and we don't have a a cogent plan going forward. So we do need to work on that because this is gonna continue to come up because the state is now emphasizing retail development as well, not just industrial. So we're gonna continue to have these things in our lap. And I hope it's local stuff. I hope we have lots of local folks that are innovating. So that's just my final comment is we need a plan as a council as we go forward.

Thank you, sir. Ms. Skelton, will you give me a roll call? Oh, Mr. Pierce, you have one more thing?

I'm sorry, I was just going to say that the 120 jobs is not 120 additional jobs in our community. It would be very naive to think that most of those jobs will end up being replacing existing jobs at other restaurants, just like a lot of that revenue is going to be moved revenue rather than new revenue. Right. It's just going to give me a roll call.

we have we have we have a motion it came from finance so it already has a motion it came from finance so it does have a motion so have motion and i know we're going to be uh we will have some nays so i want to go ahead and get a roll call mr keller yes mr george yes miss wetzel

Yes. Miss Young? Yes. Mr. Olsen? Yes. Mr. Bradley? Yes. Mr. Pearson?

No.

Mr. Gray?

Yes.

7-1. All right.

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. All right. Mr. Keller, it's you again.

Item two on our agenda is appropriation. It's a pass through from the general fund carry over and some $500 to be used to create a pass through for historic district commission's implementation of the certificate of appropriateness application fee and the associated cost of notification. We present item two as a motion to adopt.

Have a motion to adopt. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? All right. We move on to item three.

Item three is consideration of a reimbursement request to the Arkansas Valley Alliance for Economic Development for the second quarter of 2026 in the amount of $49,424.98. We present item three as a motion to adopt.

All right. I have a motion to adopt. All in favor?

Aye.

Any opposed? All right. Moving on to item four.

Item four is consideration of a reimbursement request from the Boys and Girls Club of the Arkansas River Valley for the second quarter of 2026 in the amount of $16,389.10. We present item four as a motion to adopt.

I've got a motion to adopt on item four. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? All right.

Mayor, that's the last item on our agenda. I yield the floor back to you.

Thank you, Chairman. Moving on to unfinished old business, item one is a consideration of an ordinance rezoning certain realty in the city of Russellville, Arkansas, for other purposes. Submitted by Joshua Spence. This is unanimously recommended denial by the Planning Commission. This is slated to be the second of three readings.

Maramu we suspend the rules dispense with the reading requirement read by title which were explanation for the 2nd of 3 readings.

Right and motion to suspend the rules read by title only with a short explanation for the 2nd of 3 readings. Got a motion in a second. All in favor aye any opposed. All right, Sir.

Or it's reserving certain really the city of Russell, Arkansas with a purpose. This ordinance would rezone property at 120 East Main Street. So they're identified by the attached parcel number from the Pope County Assessor's Office from C1 Central Business District to C2.

Real quick, I got a question on that. Last time, didn't we say that was one of two readings?

I don't know. It shows second or three.

I think you said one of three, and then if you wanted to just do it two, you would do it at this meeting.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you for clarification. Moving on to item two is a consideration of an ordinance to authorize mayor and city clerk, treasurer to sign an interlocal agreement with Pope County, Arkansas to split the operation expense one half each for the operation of the city recycling facility to 1801 South Knoxville Avenue. This is a third and final reading.

Mayor, we suspend the rules, dispense with the reading requirement, read by title only with short explanation for the third and final reading.

I've got a motion and a second to suspend the rules, read by title only with a short explanation. I've got a motion and a second. All in favor? Any opposed? All right, sir.

Norris authorized the mayor and city clerk to execute a local agreement, Polk County, Arkansas, for operation expenses at the city recycling facility. And for other purposes, as Torrance has passed, would set out an agreement between the city and the county for the city's new recycling facility at 1801 South Norrisville Avenue here in the city, which would split the expenses of removing the recycling materials from the location.

Motion to adopt?

Second.

I have a motion and a second to adopt. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? I do want to add that on January 28th, 1130 a.m., we will have a ribbon cutting at your new drop-off location, so all are welcome. uh moving on to new business i don't want it's a consideration ordinance amending the current rest of the historic district code uh for the city of no we didn't we didn't we did vote i said all yeah we did yeah there's a motion in a second and i said we did do a voice vote i didn't know oh we it is an ordinance you're exactly right we do have to do a roll call thank you thank you chairman killer well yeah we do have to do it's an ordinance so we do have to do a roll call thank you i had that in my mind and i completely uh let that slip i apologize Uh, who made that motion? Mr Gray made the motion and then Mr Keller and Mr George.

Thank you. All right, Mr Gray.

Yes.

Mr Keller.

Yes.

Mr George. Yes. Miss Wetzel. Yes. Miss Young. Yes. Mr Olson. Mr Bradley. Yes. Mr Pearson. Yes. Eight zero.

All right, thank you. Thank you for reminding me, Mr. Keller, thank you. All right, moving on to new business, consideration of an ordinance amending the current Russellville Historic District Code, city of Russellville, arcs all adopted by ordinance 2460 for other purposes, submitted by the Russellville Historic District Commission.

Mayor, move we suspend the rules, dispense with the reading requirement, read by title only with short explanation for the first of three readings.

Second.

I have a motion and a second to suspend the rules and read my title only with a short explanation.

All in favor?

Aye. Any opposed? Sir?

The ordinance amending the current Russville Historic District Commission code for the city of Russville, Arkansas, adopted by Ordinance Number 2460, and for other purposes, the ordinance, if passed, would make amendments to the current code adopted by 2460, by amending Article 2, Section 5, Chapter 5, Add a new subsection, 7.1.1.4, which would raise the application to $100. And also amend another section that would provide the RHDC to provide public notice as opposed to the applicant to adjacent property owners.

All right. Thank you, sir. Item two is a consideration of an ordinance for rezoning certain property from R1 to C2 located at 2304 SR 124. This is formally known as Taylor's Grocery to most of us. This is submitted by SAMU General Market LLC on behalf of Y&O Russell LLC. Second.

Second.

I have a motion in a second to read by title only with a short explanation, suspend the rule, suspend the rules, read by title only short explanation for one of one times all in favor, any opposed. All right, sir.

Norris Rezoned Certain Realty of the City of Russell, Arkansas, and for other purposes in order to pass would rezone property located at 2304 SR 124, also identified by the associated county assessor's office parcel number from R1 to C2.

Motion to adopt.

Second.

Can we make a quick clarification? Because when we do a one-of-one, this was because the applicant had to close financing. That's the reason we're doing one-of-one instead of the normal. Okay.

Thank you, Mr. Gray. I have a motion and a second to adopt. Any more discussion? All in favor?

Aye.

Ms. Skelton?

Mr. George?

Yes.

Mr. George? Yes.

Ms. Wetzel?

Yes.

Ms. Young? Yes. Mr. Olsen? Yes. Mr. Bradley? Yes. Mr. Pearson? Yes. Mr. Gray? Yes. Mr. Keller?

Yes.

8-0.

All right, thank you. All right, moving on to item three, it's a consideration of an ordinance imposing a temporary moratorium on the acceptance, processing, and approval of applications for the development, construction, or siting of data centers within the incorporated areas of the city of Russellville, Arkansas, establishing a temporary committee to study, address, and provide recommended legislation to regulate data centers in the city. And for other purposes, this is sponsored by Councilmember Justin Keller.

Mayor, I move we suspend the rules, dispense with the reading requirement, read by title only with short explanation for the first of one and only reading.

I have a motion. Who's the second? I'm sorry. Pearson. Pearson. Pearson. Okay. All right. I have a motion and a second to read by or to suspend the rules, read by title only with a short explanation for one of one time. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Aye. no okay mr okay can we have to where can we have discussion uh now do you want oh this is just to suspend the rules for the reading okay that's what uh okay so when we go to when we go to the vote we can actually open up for discussion that'd be okay mr gray yeah would that work all right so we've um okay so we got we do have approval so yes go ahead sir

More support is the term moratorium on the acceptance process and approval applications for the development construction or signing of data centers within corporate areas of the city of Russell, Arkansas. September committee to study address and provide recommendation recommended legislation regulate data centers the city and for other purposes ordinance if passed would place a moratorium on data centers. for till january 1 2028 and would also form a allow a temporary committee to be formed from the city council now motion motion to adopt second have a motion and a second to adopt any discussion

yes so since we're doing one of one where does the feedback from the community come the the committee working group ad hoc working group whatever it's going to be how does where does that fit in if we're adopting this tonight

Well, I don't know, are you addressing that to me or is that just to the?

Well, I mean we're adopting something. Yeah. It's establishing a temporary committee so I'm assuming, I guess I thought that the committee would, the ad hoc committee work would come first so we get a better idea of what we're voting on, what the temperature of the community is and that sort of thing.

Well, the vote is for one, to establish a moratorium for the 18 months and then during that time, we would also with this ordinance establish the committee that would then take that 18 months to do the work. So I can say my thought was that if this is passed, depending on when it goes into effect, whether it's immediately or in 30 days, that what we as a council would do is set up a time for us to meet and then we would then, because nothing in the resolution says who's on the committee, when we're gonna meet, so on and so forth, I figured what we would do is we would, as a body, pick a time for us to come together and start setting up exactly what we're gonna be doing and start inviting folks.

Okay. I would just, for the record, I would like for us to set up this ad hoc committee and get it started with something a little more firm because we're passing something, but I just want to make sure we do something about it and not just pass this moratorium and then a year from now we still haven't had any discussions on it.

Mr. Olsen.

So I understand the concern. Obviously, it's concerns across the country. I also understand that there's been a lot of improvements in the way that they operate. For example, instead of using three million gallons a day of fresh water, now they recirculate water. They use their own infrastructure for power, yadda yadda, whatever. It's always advancing. So to put a moratorium on a potential large business that doesn't do all the damage that we see in the news just seems a bit extreme for me. So I would be more apt to do something like require a data center to use a special use permit so that it has to go through all of the you know planning commission and zoning and all the things to all the way up to us for approval that covers all all the things instead of just saying no instead of being a no community let's be a we're open we'll listen to you but if it's if you want three million gallons a day and a bunch of power from us we're going to be a no so i would think that there's an end around a different way of doing that with a special use permit versus just being out and in the headlines saying absolutely not. Even though we don't really know what a data center is and what it's going to take, we're a no. That's not a really good look in my opinion. So that's where I stand on it.

so I really like what you're saying and at least though like the amount of time that's a really long moratorium so like even if we could just maybe do I don't know that's a long one I don't know the number would be better but I even three months while we've set up the committee maybe but I thought the committee needs to happen the town hall needs to happen that's a long time

So I hear you. I hear you on that. I originally was proposing a much longer time. I will go ahead and say I kind of settled on 18 months in my final proposal for this item. Uh, just looking at is like, well, it's July and. You know, 18 months would get us right to the 1st of. 2028 it would give us the rest of this year and give us next year to be able to discuss what we want. Uh, our. uh rules and regulations for if a data center was to want to come and be within the city limits of russellville and chris i hear you you know maybe a special use permit is the way to go the great thing is is that by forming this committee and having the discussions we're going to be able to talk about all the options that are available to us as a municipality and then we get to decide which is the right one for our community maybe we decide on a special use permit maybe we decide that all those things you said about not using three million gallons of fresh water a day and you've got to generate your own power maybe we decide we want to put those in the rules but the fact is is that we don't have any rules right now and without putting a moratorium in place and then setting up a mechanism where if you've been, if you've looked at at the community's response to even the words data center in the same sentence. I think that you can see that this is something that many people in our community are very vocal about and want to make sure that we as a community are protected. And the only way to do that is to put rules and regulations in place. And the best way to do that is to take a certain amount of time, which, as you've mentioned, it's a complex issue. So I agree with you on that. Let's take the amount of time it's going to take to address the complex issue that we are trying to address. Let's bring the community in so that they can be a part of creating the rules for our community. And let's make sure that if the day comes that a data center project comes to Russellville and says, we want to come here, that we have attracted a company that wants to come and play by rules set forth by the community, not someone who just wants to come in and just do whatever they want. And that no matter what that company is, we as a community have decided what our standards are. I think that that is the best way to move forward. And 18 months is a long time. It may take that long because, as you said, it's a very complex issue. If we get it knocked down in six months, we can just repeal the moratorium and say, job's done. We've got rules. We've got regulations. Our community is protected. We had people come in and give us their opinion. Our work is done. We can lift this moratorium. but as as you stated ms wetzel we've got we want to get the community involved we want to have town halls we want to have we want to have sessions where people come in and can be involved in this process in order to do that that's going to take time that's why i think 18 months not allowing any until january 1st 2028 gives us the time to dot the i's cross the t's and if we finish early great We can lift the moratorium, but it gives us the time to do the work that we need to do.

Could we do it the other way around though, more like Ms. Wetzel's suggesting? I'm with you on all that. I wanna hear what the people have to say and the way we're doing it right now doesn't really give them the opportunity to do that, whether it's moratorium or not a moratorium or anything in between. I was hoping you might be open to a friendly amendment that we do this maybe, I don't know, 90 days, 180 days, something where we have a chance to, because I'd like to hear from folks, not us yapping at each other. I'd like to hear from the public. It feels like right now we're doing something. The public, well, we'll get to you later. I would rather have it on the front end. We can put a moratorium for three months or six months or four months or whatever you want. that would do the same thing and then, as you said, we could repeal it, we could extend the moratorium if our work's not done yet. I'd just rather hear from the people on this before, We do have the same effect, but we get people's feedback immediately instead of the way we're doing it, is what it seems to me. I may be out in left field. Can I ask a question?

I think we're... Can I ask a question, if you don't mind, sir? And this question can be answered by Mr. Smith, Ms. Marchant, or Mr. Wilson. Mr. Olson recommended a special use permit. With a special use permit, are there parameters that need to be in place that... the rules that go with the special use permit and that's that's what that was my question uh do because i do like special use permit that's what i wanted to say i mean certain things call for special use permits in our zoning code and could you not just say data center requires a special use permit trigger that And but then do you have to have rules that go along with that special use permit to guide those guardrails? And that's my question to them. That's what I want to ask, because I do like the fact that you're talking about special use permit, but also need to know, do we have to have guardrails associated with that special use permit?

Yeah. so currently data centers are permissible only via special use permit in the m1 light industrial and m2 heavy industrial zones conditions can be placed per staff's recommendations and the planning commission can choose whether they would like to adopt or not adopt those conditions the only regulations we have currently in the zoning code for data centers is noise related

Can you, just out of curiosity, you said M1 and M2. Where are M1 and M2, just out of curiosity, that you can tell me right off the top of my head?

Off the top of the head, the east side of the city has the largest amount of M1 and M2.

And how much is that, probably?

Acreage-wise?

Yeah, there's a little M1 right by the airport, isn't there?

Yes, I believe that one's like $50.

15, 20 acres there, I think.

It's all still out toward the east.

Yeah. And then also, so you're saying if there are any other land would have to be rezoned and that would have to come through planning commission. But sure.

I mean, if you, if you added up all the M1 and M2 in the city, you know, you could probably find, you could probably Frankenstein a patch that's, you know, sizable enough for one of the, you know, LLM data centers that are the current kind of trend across the country. Um, but currently, yeah, it's broken up into, but they would be broken up. Yeah, dozens of acres.

But the LLM, those are all server farms, right? They're not? Correct. Because there's different kinds of data centers too.

Yeah, there's different kinds of data centers. My understanding is the LLM ones are kind of the hot button ones, the bigger impact ones. Definitely they are, yeah. But that's, again, we have a crypto mine, a Bitcoin mining facility out off Tyler Road on that side of town as well.

And just so you know, current trend amongst crypto mining facilities is actually stop mining cryptocurrency and convert to data centers for LLMs and other uses. So I think that what Mr. Wilson has pointed out in this, And his answer is that currently it is by special use permit, great. So we've got that as a tool. But the only thing we have set in stone as a community is are they too noisy? We don't address anything else regarding data centers. So the only thing that we as a community can regulate for sure noise we can't regulate anything else because everything else is just it's an it's a it's a suggestion by staff and then it's up to whether or not the Planning Commission forwards it to us with those recommendations and then it's up to whoever's sitting up here at the time to be like i want to i want to protect that or i don't it's not the community coming up and saying these are the rules we want to have and to answer your question mr from earlier mr gray uh i think that this is not putting the cart before the horse i think that if you don't enact a moratorium and then start working with the community to set up those rules, what you potentially set up is a situation where maybe a company's looking to come to Russellville, and they say, you know what, we're looking to come to Russellville in the next two or three years. That's on our, or five years. That's on our long-term plan.

I did not reject the moratorium, though. No, no, no, no, I'm saying it. Get a shorter moratorium so we can hear from the public. Okay. then we can do that.

Yeah, but I think that having the moratorium in place to stop while we put together those rules. I'm still saying a moratorium.

I'm saying a moratorium. I'm just saying instead of 18 months, I'm saying will you be open to a friendly amendment to a three-month or a four-month, which we can extend any time so we can get public input because it feels like we're putting in an 18-month moratorium. We haven't heard from the public yet.

would I'd be willing to I would definitely be willing to entertain like a six-month moratorium mr. Wilson is asking to I would just like to clarify I'm currently per the zoning code special use permits do not come to City Council that would just it would stop at Planning Commission the same is true for any large-scale development they stop with Planning Commission

So you could amend your, could you not as in, could you put something in your zoning code that it would have to come to council if it were that situation or not? That would be?

With council. Sounds like that and you need water and electricity in our, just to mention a couple. If we've got noise, we need water, electricity. This is exactly what I'm talking about. We need to have a discussion I'm okay with a moratorium. I just don't know the 18 month moratorium is what we need right now until we figure out what we're gonna do and what the public thinks of it.

Can I ask Mr. Smith, can I ask Mr. Smith's advice? Can a special use permit per zoning code be required or could there be something put in place that it would have to become for the council or not? Does it work that way? have changed the whole system, so that's not, okay, okay, okay.

Yeah, you got to remember, too, that, like, it was, what, four years ago, we went through a major revamp of our, the way that we do zoning and whatnot and how we process it. And part of that was for an efficiency of it. So if we were to say that now all special use permits are going to come to the council, we're going to start, Because we can't just say just for this project or just for that, we'd have to say all. So what we'd be doing is then we're starting to slowly undo all the work that was done over like two years to make the whole process more efficient. And if you talk to developers who come from out of state or out of town, they say Russellville is a great place to do development because your process is so efficient. So we'll just be undoing that.

water do go ahead mr. George well regarding you discussed that there are only a few places in town where some something like this could go so in essence there would be a zoning discussion when it came to if said property was under you know so the Planning Commission I we need rules we definitely need rules And we have some guardrails right now. Not what I would call enough, but I think that a lot of the discussion that we've had tonight obviously has presented some already guardrails. And I think there's enough community-wide understanding and information available to kind of see what struggles we would foresee in the future. So again, I'm pro-moratorium, pro-guardrails, pro-public interest into this, but we already have some. In that sense, if it Like they're going to have to buy property and more than likely that property is not going to be zoned correctly because there's not enough space in the zoning that we have already. So at some level it would come to us in the rezoning. That doesn't, but again, I'm not saying, I'm saying it's not enough. You are correct. I'm saying it's not enough. But what I am saying is I don't think we need the full 18 months either. I think a six-month moratorium would be sufficient.

I move to amend the proposed ordinance to go from an 18-month to a six-month moratorium.

Second. Now discussion.

Well, so I have a motion and a second to amend the moratorium to six months. Any discussion?

yes i would like the caveat placed in there that we will go to work immediately on this not we're october and we still haven't had a public meeting or hearing or allow the public to speak because that's what i want to hear i want to hear the public speak and i also want to get our uh planning documents so whatever we have to within 30 days 45 days we have the machinations in place to have a public hearing uh or a public meeting uh begin to i think i certainly think and surely in 30 days we can seat this um committee um so that would be my That's what I want. I don't know if anybody else wants that, but I don't want us to be sitting here next month and then next month and then next month. It tends to happen sometimes.

I'd like to see it move as quickly as possible, but I support this. Because in my mind, what Mr. Keller was suggesting was an education period followed by good guardrails being put in place. And after our last meeting, I spent over an hour speaking with Mr. Hauserman and know a lot more about data centers now than I did then, but still isn't much. And there's so much obviously that goes on in social media and stuff that people are very assured of what they don't know.

Yeah, they're talking mostly about server farms. There's other kinds of these kind of places that are development, job heavy.

So I just want us to be as educated as possible and put good things in place. Okay. So.

Mr. Smith, I do have a question for you. So if we pass this tonight absent the inaction of the emergency clause, it wouldn't take effect for 30 days. So during that time, the committee is not officially a thing, can we start doing that work in that 30 day period? Or if we were wanting to start immediately, would we need to enact the emergency clause?

Mr. Smith said if you wanted to start as a committee, you would need to enact the emergency clause. And if you wanted to just meet as a council, you could do that within 30 days. Is that correct?

So we could for 30 days as a council start meeting, figuring out what this process is going to look like, who we're going to, how we're going to form the committee because none of that's been decided yet either. I didn't want to presume and come up with saying this is how it would be. I thought we as a group could figure this out as, you know, together. um so during that time we could come together start putting flesh on the bones and then when that 30-day mark hits we could start having meetings as a committee that's correct yes mr wilson um i would just really quickly like to just add context from staff's side if staff were involved in this process um

Myself, engineering and sustainability and resilience, we're also kind of hammering away at our safety action plan as well. So just additional context for what we have going behind the scenes on top of this.

um do you guys have uh i'm sure you have thoughts and uh ideas about what we need to do like this is what you do every day so about what we as a city should do uh in regards to these type of facilities maybe some other areas have created rules and laws uh would you all be willing to share that with committee with us you know obviously like

Speaking for myself, absolutely, I would love the opportunity, yeah.

Cool. Yes, sir? Question, and I know there's a lot of, this would be a lot of guesswork, but if somebody came to you, a data center came to you and said, we'd like to put a data center here, what would that process, timeline, timeframe, sorry, what would that look like for them?

Currently right now, someone would submit for a special use permit along with plans. That special use permit would have to be brought to the Planning Commission. And then this is, you know. They would have to already have their plans. Right. And the land. This is if the site is, you know, suited for it, if it's ready for it. They would have to come to us for a special use permit. We would bring that to Planning Commission, depending on what time of the month they get us. If they get us right at our deadline, we get them on the next month's meeting. If they miss that deadline by a day, that's two months down. So anywhere from a one to two month process. Staff would write a report with a recommendation. Staff would present that report to the Planning Commission. And Planning Commission would ultimately decide whether to to approve or deny the special use permit application.

But as we talked about, in order for something like that to happen, there would have to be rezoning of property.

It depends on the size of what the hypothetical developer would be looking to do. I will openly admit I'm certainly not a data center subject matter expert. I feel like I'm learning every day, but if something's more than shoot 50 acres, they'd certainly have to probably acquire multiple acres. I don't think we have 50 acres, M1 or M2, that are contiguous. It would be tough. There could be a rezoning involved. If there's a rezoning involved, we see rezonings frequently. If it's not given a one-of-one reading, that's a three-month process plus 30 days for the appeal period.

So what I'm getting at is they found the property. It would have to get rezoned, which is three months. Then another one to two months. That's if they started yesterday. So while we're doing a six-month moratorium... Why, I mean, that's my question is why are we doing this whenever there are, it's a timeframe, there's a, anyways, y'all are gonna do what you wanna do, but I just, I think it's a bit extreme for what's going on, because nobody's looking at our town, we don't have enough land, we have enough guardrails to say no if we wanna say no, there's no reason to throw a moratorium out there for it, and there's definitely not an emergency to do it one of one.

or emergency clause in my opinion so yeah can we do all the committee work we're talking about without a moratorium i guess that's my question i mean do we have any active moratoriums right now do we have any active moratoriums as a city right now i mean i just really not that i'm aware can we do all this process work without one i guess is what i'm trying to say maybe a silly question the state has given us the opportunity to do that because of the understanding of

the fact that data centers are a big deal and i don't um think that it's a i don't think it's us saying we're not open for business obviously we've had the discussion uh with the chamber over the last year or so about how open for business we are and so this to me is a Hey, we're not closed, but we need a minute. So, and I'm okay with that. I think our citizens would appreciate that, especially in this topic specifically because all we had to do was say moratorium on data centers and 8,000 people on social media were like, we don't want a data center. And we were like, yeah, no, we're not saying we want one. We're saying we want to talk about what kind of rules. we need for one and so I definitely think it's something we should do.

All right. So we have a motion on the floor. Do we have anyone that wants to amend them? Okay. So we have a motion to amend the, to six months. Mr. Gray has not made a motion, but he's recommended a caveat. So Mr. Parliamentarian, do we need to move with this motion or can Mr. So we have to vote on the amendment. Okay, so we're gonna vote on the amendment.

Well, one point, if we're doing one of one, It gives us 30 days. That will cure that period that I'm asking for that we will get to work. I just don't want this hanging out there. I was trying to think of scenarios, because I agree with Mr. Olson. It would probably take six months for something like this to happen. But let's just say, hypothetically, someone came in and bought one of our big industrial facilities that's surrounded by patches of M1. Maybe you could so a six-month moratorium protects us from something like that something completely unforeseen Which is part of our job is to try to see the future even though we can't So I'm okay with the six-month moratorium I just I just want to get to work on this and I want to hear from the public So if you're one of one in 30 days Does that then I'll withdraw? What I said

I would say that it takes three members of the council to call a working session and I am one who is ready to call it whenever. So there are two other folks. So if we got a third, then we'll have one as quickly as next week.

Anybody go on record as a third? I'm second. Yeah, I'll do that. Okay, thank you.

I've got a motion and a second to amend the Moratorium as stated in the original document to six months from 18 months. Ms. Skelton, will you give me a roll call?

Yeah, the way around from 18 months to six months.

Did I say that wrong? I'm sorry. From 18 months to six months. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. I was trying to articulate that. No, no, no, no, no. So from 18 months was the original to six months. Ms. Skelton, will you give me a roll call?

Mr. Keller?

Yes.

Mr. Pearson?

Yes.

Mr. George?

Yes.

Ms. Wetzel?

No.

Ms. Young? Yes. Mr. Olsen? No. Mr. Bradley?

Yes.

Mr. Gray?

Yes.

6-8.

For the record, six months will be what?

uh well will it be when it goes into effect when it goes in that's what i want to know what so be in february but also can i uh okay so we've got it is passed but for the record it can be shortened if the committee achieves its goal then you could come back to the council and shorten that yeah okay mr mr yeah you could or it could be lengthened okay so we okay so we that was okay okay okay wait did we not just vote on the item The amendment, for the amendment. Okay, voted for the amendment. Okay, so we voted for the amendment. Okay, so now we have a motion and a second on the amended motion, well, the motion and the amendment. So am I, Mr. Parliamentarian, track me and make me.

I voted on the amended.

Amended motion. We're voting on the amended motion. Do I have a motion and a second on the amended motion? We already got it. We got our motion and a second. Okay, call the roll on the amended motion. Yeah, I'm confused. I'm glad you're here, Mr. Parliamentarian.

Mr. Keller?

Yes.

Mr. Pearson? Yes. Mr. George?

Yes.

Ms. Wetzel? No. Ms. Young? Yes. Mr. Olson?

No.

Mr. Bradley?

Yes.

And Mr. Gray?

Yes.

It's 6-2.

6-2, okay. So that will be, all right. I'll entertain a motion.

All right, we will adjourn. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.