City Council - Packet - Regular Meeting

Good evening. Tonight's invocation will be given by Round Rock PD Chaplain Deacon David Boren. Come on up.

I've always maintained that the microphone faces the wrong way. If you'll bow your heads in prayer with me, please. Gracious and loving God, we thank you first and foremost for your presence and your your willingness to deal with us as a community. We thank you for the grace that you give us each and every day. This evening, we pray that our discussions might be infused with your wisdom, that our decisions might be according to that which you wish us to decide. But in all actions, May it be according to your most gracious will, and may it be for the best interest of this community in all aspects, not personal agendas. We ask this in all through Christ our Lord. Amen.

Thank you. Call the 6 o'clock seat, Councilman, in order. And please call the roll.

Mayor Morgan.

Here.

Mayor Pro Tem Stevens. Here. Council Member Lee. Here. Council Member Flores. Here. Council Member Fleming. Here. Council Member Ortega. Here. Council Member Montgomery.

Here.

All right, if you're able to stand with me for the pledges.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Honor the Texas flag. I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state, under God, one nation. Citizen communication, any citizen who wishes to speak during citizen communication regarding an item on or off the agenda may do so after completing the required registration card. All comments must be no more than three minutes in length per section. 2-26B5 of the Round Rock Code of Ordinances, 2018 edition. Any comments regarding items not on the posted agenda may not be discussed or responded to by the City Council per state law. I have several that will speak on I-1 and I-3, so we'll call you then. I have one, Richard Parsons.

Good evening. My name is Richard Parson. I live at 2301 Windriff Way here in Round Rock. And I am the founder of Round Rock Pride Festival. And I want just to say thank you, because we had our fifth annual Pride LGBTQ Festival last weekend. And once again, between 5,000 and 6,000 people. We had a peaceful, happy time with some wonderful families who were able to relax without persecution. Thank you to our city because of that. And we're already planning for our next festival next year. Expect the same happy, peaceful time. And we're grateful because, as you know, not every city permits this. But we're proud because what we do is very positive. And we have a very family-friendly festival that brings out the best in our community. And we believe that we add a lot to the positive impact that we have on our city. And we will always strive to make you proud of what we do because we appreciate Our city and we love everything that you do to support us. Thank you.

Thank you, Richard All right, I'll have you more cards Proclamations staff recognition special presentations e1 consider proclaim in June 23rd 2026 as Dervais syndrome awareness day in the city of Round Rock anyone should come on up to the microphone and I Will read this Whereas, Gervais syndrome has an estimated incident rate of 1 to 15,700, making it a rare genetic disease that currently has no cure. And whereas, Gervais syndrome is a devastating form of infant onset epilepsy that is characterized by frequent and uncontrolled seizures, multiple seizure types, a resistance to medication and or therapies and intellectual disability, and whereas individuals with Dravet syndrome are at high risk for sudden, unexplained death and epilepsy with a mortality rate of approximately 20%, and whereas Dravet syndrome often goes undiagnosed or misdiagnosed, making initiatives that increase public awareness extremely important, and whereas the Dravet Syndrome Foundation and other groups around the world have joined together to promote awareness of the disorder to ensure people with Dravet syndrome get the best possible treatment and proper diagnosis. Now, therefore, I, Mayor Craig Morgan, and the rest of the city council do hereby proclaim June 23, 2026 as Dravet Syndrome Awareness Day in the city of Round Rock and urge all citizens to support the search for a cure and assist those individuals and families who deal with this challenging disease proclaimed this 11th day of June 2026. Mayor Craig Morgan. Anita.

Thank you. I'm here representing the families affected by this syndrome. I'm sorry that I'm kind of losing it. I owe a debt of gratitude to our other local family, Sasha Dean Dormagen, and her family who have first approached to get this session aligned and organized this opportunity to represent our community and have it be recognized in such an important way. As our previous speaker said, the Round Rock community is like no other. We have always been open and welcomed and appreciate all that the city has and its citizens bring. As you mentioned, early diagnosis is critical. It can mean a world of difference in the outcomes that our children and families have, as this really is a burden that the entire family does face because the need for constant treatment, interventions, And monitoring is quite substantial. So again, I would like to thank Mayor Morgan, our city council, and our wider community for taking this opportunity to really help us elevate the need for more awareness of our syndrome. Thank you.

You're welcome. Thank you. All right, staff presentations. F1, consider a presentation regarding the 2026 Spring University graduating class. Joe?

Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. It is my pleasure to present to you the 15th graduating class of university. The fine folks behind me have spent 11 Mondays learning about the city government that they call home when they could have been at home watching The Voice. But instead, they spent 33 hours learning every single department the city has through games, activities, tours, and even a few PowerPoints. But luckily, they graduated and have immense knowledge on how the city operates. Class, you are a pleasure to have as part of this program, and the most valuable currency you have is your time, and you spent that with us. We truly appreciate it, and we are grateful for that, and we don't take it for granted. I'd also like to thank my fellow directors for also putting on excellent classes. I conveniently arrived for class just in time for dinner to be served, so the real credit for putting on university goes to Devin Taylor and Grayson Roberts, our neighborhood services coordinators. Thank you, gentlemen. So graduates, as I call your name, please stand, and we'll recognize everyone with applause at the end. From Affinity at Round Rock, Denise Armistead from Chandler Creek, Kwong Chan from Chisholm Valley, Marcos Silveira. From Cityside Condos, Dutchell Daniels. From Edgar Acres, Diggory Overlander. From Forest Bluff, Tina Slyger. From Forest Grove, Harold Taylor Jr. and Tanisha Taylor. You might recognize that Taylor name because Harold and Tanisha are the third and fourth graduating members from the Taylor family. There is one fifth Taylor member who hasn't gone through the program yet, Trey Taylor from the IT department, but he doesn't know yet. We've already signed him up for the fall. From Forest Ridge, Rosie Woodfin. From Las Brisas, Nicola Cotto. From Mayfield Ranch, Olga Kapilova. From Remington Heights, Heidi Bennett and Greg Bennett. From Round Rock West, Lincoln Urie. From Somerville at Warner Ranch, Tara Johnson. From South Creek, Emily Boyd. From Stone Oaks, Valeria Kunikova. From Terra Vista, Tricia Mollard. From the Oaklands, Sarah Magliocca and Shondell Burgess. From the plantation, Jamie Rigney. From the settlement, Camilla Powell and Olin Powell. And finally, from the woods, Jonathan Rigney. And our two class speakers are Marcos and Heidi, who I'd like to invite to come up and share a few thoughts.

I feel nervous. Yes. Okay. First of all, I would like to say thank you to my ladies behind me over there because she sent me the information. Thank you, Devin, because I was pushing, pushing, pushing. I said, Marcos, could you apply now? I did. I'm here. Thank you, Mayor, the Council. Thank you. I would like to... I thank you to every single department because now I understand how the city works. I feel much better now in Round Rock. I highly recommend leave here because every time I try to, when I share this information with my co-workers, I said, do you know, I am the city. Oh, city, no, city with C. It's different. Now my city works, I explain details to them. I would like to say thank you. Thank you for this opportunity. For me, it's very important. Thank you. Thank you.

Hi, I am Heidi Bennett. And I just want to thank you all for the opportunity to share what impact Round Rock University has made on our family and for all of us. We became like a little family in these past couple of months. So I'm a fifth grade teacher at Gaddis Elementary here in Round Rock. Every Monday night, I love field trips. And so this was like having a field trip and a date night with my husband all rolled into one. We just love living in Round Rock. We're big fans of all the departments, the library with the discovery passes, getting to go to the you know, Rock and River Water Park and Del Diamond, just all the things. But the biggest impact this probably had was in my classroom. Tuesday morning, I would go back to my classroom and share what I had learned the night before about our city. We were actually chosen by the utilities department to participate in their water conservation program. And I was told that only about five Schools in Round Rock get to do this. It was really neat to get firsthand information. We built a little diagram of the reservoir with pipes made out of highlighters going to little buildings and then the houses. The kids said that was one of their favorite projects of the school year. I would not have known what I was talking about if I had not gone to Round Rock University. I just want to share what a blessing you all are to our community. Thank you for your selflessness. Thank you to Joe and Devin and Grayson for all the work that they've done. So thank you.

Thank you. Anybody have any comments? Mayor Pro Tem.

Yeah, I'll just say congratulations. That's a big commitment, right? To be away from your family every week for 11 classes. Hopefully you learned a lot. Hopefully you will share that information. I know you heard all of us talk about how misinformation spread and how now you have the keys and the power to spread the correct information. I hope you also realized how accessible we are too. So I said it when I came and talked to y'all at any time, we're here. So Just give us a call. Department heads are the same. But congratulations. And now you have somebody you have to recruit to do it next time.

Anybody else over on the Council Member Ortega?

I also want to say thank you and congratulations for taking time away from your family and participating. It's not always that we have our citizens do something like this and to actually know what we do for our community. I just want to say again, thank you. And thank you for letting us speak to you. And I know Joe has done a great job. His department has. There's another program. As a matter of fact, I thank him today. He has where their volunteers come around and help clean up a neighborhood or a home. He actually did one for a neighbor of mine that I knew needed help. And she was very grateful. And so that is something that just shows how great our community is and how good our departments are. So thank you for stepping up.

Councilmember Montgomery.

I just would like to echo the sentiments of Mayor Pro Tem and Council Member Ortega. What you guys have taken the time to do is immeasurable. You now have a real concept of what this city does to make sure that our citizens are protected and taken care of and provided with the services that we need on a daily basis. So congratulations. Thank you for taking the time. to do this. I know it's a huge commitment, but you are wonderful citizens and spread the word to your neighbors. Let them know how great this class is. Thank you.

Council Mayor Flores.

Yeah, I would just say thanks and congratulations for completing the class. And I would just say don't let this be the end. But look for other opportunities to get involved in the community. There's other programs out there and other ways to get involved through various host of communities and nonprofits. So keep at it. But thank y'all.

Anybody else over here? Yeah, I'll just, so let me ask real quick, who's y'all's favorite knight? You're on the spot.

We all got shot at the police department. Well, okay.

That's what always usually ranks up there. They have all the toys. No, I just want to say thank you all for taking the time. It's been mentioned about several up here just for investing in your community and trying to really learn and understand what's going on in the community with social media. We all know that information can get misspread pretty easily. And so it's great that you take the time to really learn it. and understand it, and then you can be able to direct your neighbors if they have a question or a concern to, you know, the respective departments. And I'd encourage you to tell a friend about the class. The more people that we can get in this program, I think it just helps the community even more so. And so thank you all for taking the time and doing all that. And so you all enjoy your, I think you're probably about to go have cake and stuff, so enjoy your time. Thank you.

Thank you.

All right. Consent agenda. All items listed there. Oh, sorry. My bad. Sorry, Chief. I didn't know, you know. F2, consider presentation department update from the police department.

My apologies. No worries. Thank you, Mayor, Council. Yeah, I absolutely agree. University is an amazing program for our citizens. Part of our recruitment during that program is trying to get them to our Citizens Police Academy as well. It doesn't do us justice when we only have about three hours with them on a Monday night when they get the opportunity to spend time another 10 or 11 weeks with us at CPA. And so what a great program that is. Thank you for the opportunity tonight. I get to share our police department update. Most of the stats I'm going to share with you are from 2025. Back behind me represented is our executive staff for our department, also our police association president, Taylor Roberson. And I just want to say publicly how much I appreciate the partnership and relationship that we have with our association, the support, and just communication. And I think it's absolutely important. That's what makes us a strong department. And also, it helps this community that we work hand in hand with each other and not against each other. So 2025, our overall department activities. And so what we did see, we saw a decrease in our self-initiated activities and our proactive police activities, overall calls for service. In 2024, we had 125,000 calls or police activities that self-initiated or those are calls to 911 or our dispatch and that we responded to. In 2025, that was 128,796. The decrease in our calls for service were increased with our proactive calls for service, which means that we, as the officers, were out there doing a lot of proactive work. And I think the results of that proactive work reduced the 911 calls that we saw. Additionally, we put in a lot of task force, a lot of initiatives. Hitting some of what we call hot spots that we saw that we saw some of the rise in crime that we really went and Hit those areas to make sure we reduce crime and as a result those calls for service We see that in the change in the calls for service Calls into our dispatch system That was a decrease by almost 2%. We went from, in 2024, 166,199 to 163,105. Significant. We are almost fully staffed in our communications section, continuing working on that to get fully staffed, and trained our 911 operators and our dispatchers up as well. That is a hard job. They're doing a great job. We do like to see the significant decrease in those calls to those folks. But I can tell you that's a thankless job. But those folks do an absolutely amazing job. Automobile collisions. As you can see, in 2024, the orange represents or orange or yellow, however it looks to you on your screen, represents our major collisions. Major collisions are accidents or automobile collisions that resulted in injury. Not just transport, but a complaint of injury. The blue represents no injuries. And you can see we did have a significant decrease, a 3% decrease in our collisions. One of our focuses was hitting intersections that we saw a significant amount of automobile collisions. So our traffic unit focused on those, writing traffic citations, and educating our public in traffic laws. You see Taylor, who's president of our association. Taylor's traffic tips have been a huge hit on social media. And we'll continue to use that in education pieces for our community. Reported offenses also decrease as well. And you see that trend when you have less calls for service or calls into dispatch. Officers out there doing a lot of proactivity, you're also going to get less reported offenses. Those are reports that officers write. National incident-based reporting system, these are the crimes that we have to report to the federal government, also known as NIBRS, are total Part A offenses. Between 2024 and 2025, our reported crimes fell 5.4%. That's significant. If you look around or you look at the trend around the United States, you do see a decrease, but that is a significant decrease. Again, it's the hard work that the men and women are doing day in and day out out in the streets Kind of a breakdown of those crimes we look at persons property societal and others Property crimes had the the largest decrease in crimes our property crimes decreased by 13% That's huge double figures over the over the past year about 18% Reduction in 13% over the past several years, from 2023, we saw an 18% decrease in those property crimes. Societal crimes, just a reminder to council, is that societal crimes include drug and narcotics violations, drunkenness, DUI, nonviolent family offenses, runaway trespass, weapons laws violation. We had the opportunity to sit with the district attorney and his staff. We also had the opportunity to sit with the county attorney and his staff. One of the things we talked about is the prosecution of a lot of these crimes that we were arresting folks for. The commitment that they had was communication. And that communication was if they were to dismiss or not take a case, they were going to have that conversation with us and not just send us a letter saying they're declining those cases. If we're doing something wrong or not appropriate, then we want to know that. If there was a reason why they weren't taking that case outside of that, then they were going to explain that to us. I think that communication has helped us in regards to keeping Round Rock safe, because now they understand where we're coming from. We're making sure that our affidavits, our warrants, our arrest, something that they feel comfortable taking to prosecution. And as a result of that, I truly believe, words getting out, that Round Rock is truly a place that you do not want to commit crimes. As we've talked about before, what we're seeing is a lot of our major crimes or bigger crimes, those offenders are coming from different cities. And we've discussed this before, Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, they call that the triangle. And so a lot of these other cities that these folks are coming from, they've inundated their cities. Now they're coming up the 35 corridor. We're arresting a lot of those folks. And we're hearing from some of those larger cities how appreciative they are of our efforts. And I'll give you an example. In this latest one, it was the jewelry store that got hit here in our mall. We were able to take two into custody. Houston has been after those folks for a very long time, and we are able to have two in custody with more to come in regards to that. That's also an initiative of Flock and the ability to use Flock and use it the right way. And so Flock was very instrumental in helping us with that case as well. Looking at commercial and residential burglaries, we saw a 28% decrease in 2024 and 2025. Vehicle burglaries decreased by 42%. And again, it's the hard work that our folks are putting in day in and day out, task force that we have with additional cities, and the use of flock to help us in regards to capturing some of our folks that have been or used to terrorize our city. And we're going to keep hitting them. We're going to keep hitting them. We're going to keep hitting them. The worst thing that can happen is we have visitors coming to town on vacation or passing through, and their vehicle gets hit and all their property is stolen. We don't want to put Round Rock on the map for that reason. And so working with our hotels, motels, apartment complexes, and other jurisdictions to make sure that Round Rock is a very bad place for those criminals, we'll continue to do that as best we can. Additionally, education. Education. We get guns stolen out of vehicles because people fail to lock them up properly, and they leave them in their vehicles. And we see those guns stolen, which then leads to other crimes as a result of that, if not death as a result. Education is huge. And we're telling people, do not leave property, guns, et cetera, in your vehicles. Again, just driving outcome vehicles and shoplifting. happy to report the fact that, again, the trend is dropping. We're seeing that drop. Vehicle theft dropped by 31%, and then shoplifting by 16%. State requirements that I report vehicle stops. Every agency is supposed to report that to the state. And one of the things that we look at is, are we to make sure that we are not discriminating against any member of our community? I take the numbers by the US Census Bureau, and I calculate them with our actual contacts or number of traffic stops to make sure that it's proportionate and that we're not targeting anybody. As a result of what I reported to the state this year, I did not and they did not see any issues with our traffic stops. As I reported earlier when I first started, over 128,000 calls for service were police activity, 128,000 in 2025. We had 33 allegations of misconduct in our department. The majority of those allegations were not from external, they were from internal. So you calculate 128,000 calls for service and we had 33 And of those allegations, only 20 of those were sustained. Five were exonerated, six were not sustained, and two were administratively closed. It's about making sure that the culture of this department is we're not out discriminating or doing what we're not supposed to be doing. And you can have those naysayers that say, well, people are afraid to come and talk to police, or people are afraid to come report misconduct by officers. We have given our public every opportunity and different ways to report that misconduct to our department. And not only do we give them many ways to do that, we also give them additional ways to report good things that are happening out there. If they see a police officer or one of the police staff doing something very well, we want them to report that as well. And so we've given them every opportunity to report misconduct. I take any reports, any allegations, any complaints, or any positive messages seriously. And we make sure that we're doing it the right way, taking care of what we need to take care of, and making sure we're being transparent and communicating with our public. A couple of significant events that happened. December 31st, if you remember, it was a party that happened at the Platinum Event Center. Partied by a bunch of teenagers. We were called to a disturbance. As we arrived, the teenagers who had been fighting decided to pull out guns and they started shooting at each other. We did not engage. We were not in a position to engage. The unfortunate part of that is five juveniles were shot. As a result of great police work, several subjects were taken into custody. Jovian Wright, 20 years old, and two juveniles were charged with aggravated assault, mass shooting, first degree. Their trial is pending, and hopefully we'll get convictions for this case. And I think it's just as important to highlight Rodney Rimes, 52 years old, sexual offender. We arrested him for several outcries by juveniles. The unfortunate Issue for this incident is this went on for decades and the two young young women finally had enough courage to step up and make out cries and as a result of Very very good thorough and long investigation. Mr. Rhines was arrested his bond is set at 1 million dollars and Some of the complaints that we get is large vehicles, commercial vehicles on our roadways. Our commercial vehicle enforcement worked with several different agencies to include Department of Public Safety, Austin, Leander, Cedar Park, and Williamson County Sheriff's Office. They did an enforcement, a commercial vehicle enforcement surge. 45 vehicles were inspected and completed out of those 175 violations identified. Those could be anywhere from safety issues to not having their license, et cetera. Those fines when it comes to commercial vehicles are very costly. But it's also very costly if someone is killed as a result of somebody not doing what they're supposed to be doing while driving one of those large commercial vehicles. We will continue working with other agencies. We'll continue to make sure that those commercial vehicles are operating legally and appropriately on our roadways. On January 27th, we went live with our new dispatch record system. This one replaced a 23-year-old system. Our public-facing features opened or launched last week. This will allow citizens to create reports, access call data, and search crime stats. This project is a huge project, about two years in the making. It was in cooperation with the police, the fire, and the IT departments. They did an absolutely amazing job. The majority of this project was grant funded, and right now it's operating very, very well for all departments. We talk about our expansion for our Public Safety Training Center. It is in the middle of the expansion. It is going very well. It's always weather dependent. We've had a lot of rain lately, but they will catch up. But we're excited about the new expansion. Just to remind council, the mayor, and the public, this will add on to our current or existing classrooms. It will add an additional outdoor classroom. Our EVOC, which is our Emergency Vehicle Operating Course obstacle, which the mayor calls it what? What do you call it, mayor? racetrack yeah mayor calls a racetrack it's not a racetrack the purpose of the expansion is one we already started out growing our old PSTC fire and police recognize the fact that it is best suited for the city of Round Rock to have our training here in our city. One, it saves money, it saves time, and we know what we're training our firefighters and our police officers. We don't want to put that out on somebody else. It also gives us the opportunity to bring in well-known trainers to our facility and train. That saves us because the majority of the time that we bring in those trainers, they give us free seats in that training, so we're not having to pay for that training. Our driving track. Our driving track right now, we currently have to go out of city, which means we take all of our vehicles and everything else out of city to do our training. That training typically takes about a week to two weeks long to do for our entire department. Several places that we have used in the past, one is Florence, Department of Public Safety's training track. Again, the other one is in College Station. Problem is, in Florence, it's very difficult to get on their track because they're running classes back to back to back, and it's hard to get on their track. Plus, they open that track up to other agencies. College Bryant Station just went through renovations, remodel. Again, it's very difficult to drive an hour and a half, an hour and 45 minutes to get up there and take all trainers all of our equipment up there this is going to be very beneficial not only to to us in-house but also beneficial to our to our community I'm gonna play a quick video and just kind of show you where we're at right now The song was not my choice. I would have picked a different song for that. You get the point of the video. Drone for First Responders. Drone for First Responders, that was a program that we started. A lot of it was through grant programming from the Motor Vehicle Crime Prevention. We have launched our first drone. It has been very successful up to this point. Our current DFR, Drone for First Responder, we have a pilot that watches and mans that any time we launch it at this point. The way it is supposed to be set up is that it is hooked up to our CAD system, Community our CAD system, that we get a hot call, a priority call, it's supposed to launch itself and go out. We're not at that point yet. We want to make sure we still have control of that when we send it out. Just the other day, we had an autistic young man who had left his house. They could not find him for several hours. They called us and FIRE to help. Our DFR was launched, went out, and they found him in a wooded area next to a pond. It's already showing its benefits. Again, the naysayers will say, you know, big brother watching them. This is solely used to help us in solving and resolving cases like that, saving lives. It's not to spy on anybody. It's not to look in anybody's backyard or through their windows or chase them down, you know, to see what they're doing when they're not committing crimes. DFR is used solely for the fact of it's helping us keep Round Rock safe, period. We just recently unveiled our new patch. Our old patch was approximately 30 years old. One of the complaints that I often got in our old patch was that people did not know where we were from. Round Rock was not noticeable on our patch. It was within a small circle at the very bottom. And so what we wanted to do is we wanted to highlight Round Rock. And so that was part of the new patch. But we also wanted to honor our past. And so the gray accent honors the original uniform color, as the original uniforms for Round Rock were gray. The gold accents honor the original patch. As you can see, the original patch has that gold in it. So we wanted to honor the past as we created our new patch. It also has our core values within that circle around that star, community, honor, integrity, and pride. Those are our values of our department. And so we wear that proudly on our shoulders to represent what Round Rock is all about. As most of you were there in February, we unveiled our law enforcement memorial and our legacy Walk of Honor. We were able to honor two fallen heroes at that memorial. And then we honor those officers who have retired over 20 years in good standings with this department, that they'll be forever memorialized at the PD, as long as the PD is standing at this location. And so that is a great honor. Thank you for your time. I'm here to answer any questions that you may have.

Questions or comments? Mayor Pro Tem.

Thank you for that, and thank you for all of what you do. You're definitely the most forward-facing department that we have, and y'all do amazing work. Just from JPA to community events, I'm just inspired by y'all all the time. You're definitely the best of the best. And just seeing the overall drop is really pleasing. Our population's not getting... smaller, it's getting bigger, and our crimes are getting less. So I appreciate that. I know last year or the year before, we were focusing on the hotel crimes, all the break-ins. Is that task force still in place, or are we at a stable point now where we're not needing it as much?

Thank you for your comments, Mayor Pro Tem. And I will tell you this, we're never going to be at a stable place. We're always going to hit it hard. We're always going to make sure that they know we're out there. And I think adding not only the current drones that we have within our MARC units, police units, our DFR is now out there helping us, cameras that we're able to utilize at those intersections, partners and relationships that we have with the hotel motels, We will constantly be after these folks that want to come in and cause havoc in Round Rock. That's not slowing down, and we won't slow down at all. Our goal is to continue to bring that crime rate down and to make sure that people are afraid to come into Round Rock. I shouldn't say people, sorry. Criminals that are coming into Round Rock are afraid to come into Round Rock knowing that there's that opportunity that we're going to catch them.

I appreciate that. And walking into your police department is always a very warm and friendly experience. So I know that you set the culture there. So I appreciate that. Thank you.

Thank you, Mayor Protean. Councilman Ortega.

I have a comment and a question on the drones. How many employees do we have trained to use the drones?

So a specific number, I don't know. I know we do have a number of folks. Not only do we have sworn officers that are trained, we also have recruited some of our civilian personnel to work those drones as well. For instance, animal control, crime scene. Crime scene, why is that important? Because when they go out and they do and they collect evidence or they take photographs, now they can use the drones to take an overall visual of the scene itself. So we're training them. And so the exact number I don't know, but we have a number of folks throughout our department that are trained.

Thank you on that. The other comment I want to make, I can't remember who did the research though, but I was in my car on Monday. Two cities of our size were called the two safest cities in Texas. That was Round Rock and Georgetown. So obviously it shows here, and I'm glad you're doing the right thing, and I'm sure our citizens appreciate that. I certainly do, and thank you so much for that.

Councilmember Ortega, thank you. And I can tell you, the men and women work very hard. And they know what the expectations are. And we have a young department, but they're eager. They're eager to go out and continue to make this a safe community. Some of the challenges is the fact that we're bringing in lateral officers and have them understand what our culture is all about is what we really drive into them to make them understand why Round Rock is a special place. We will continue to do that because you deserve it. The folks behind me deserve it. And so us as a community deserve that. So thank you for those comments.

Council Member Montgomery.

Thank you. Chief, I have a couple of questions. On the property crimes, is that a particular quadrant within the city, or is there something that identifies a certain area that those are related to?

So thank you very much for that question, Mal. So basically, those stats are all crimes in the city of Round Rock. What we do on a routine basis is we look at where those crimes are happening. And those are some of our focuses as where we will send some of our officers or a task force out there to tackle that. For instance, when we were getting hit with all the hotel motels up and down I-35, We focused really hard on those hotels and motels to curb that crime trend that was happening at that time. So we look at those. We call them hot spots. What are our hot spots within our city? What are getting hit the most? We look at that. These stats right here is an overall picture of the city itself.

OK. And I applaud you on the new map. citizen interfacing system, is there any concern that the servers might be overloaded once the citizens realize that they have this interface to connect with the department?

No, ma'am, and thank you for that question as well. And I can tell you, IT has done an amazing job. Between IT and our police personnel and fire personnel, they vetted this company, and they put them through the ringer. And when I say that, I mean they put them through the ringer to make sure that they were going to be able to handle any and all calls for service, any incoming calls, anything that we needed to make sure that before we went live that they were going to be able to take care of it. It was not a cheap or an inexpensive purchase. It was an expensive purchase, and we want to make sure we're getting the best bang for our buck. And this company so far has proven to be what we needed.

Thank you, and thanks for a great report.

Thank you, ma'am. Chancellor Fleming.

Just wanted to quickly say thank you for all you do. I'm very proud to have you all as a department, you the head, all of your management, and all your officers. You all work really hard, and it's reflective in those numbers. I think that you had said the laterals, moves, challenges that you've got to teach them our culture, but I think you're going to get more and more lateral moves looking at the quality of officers and department that you lead and looking at that new track. So great job.

Well, thank you for that. I can tell you us getting more laterals is a combination of a lot of hard work by the city manager. myself and our association one of the things that we worked hard on is how do we how do we how do we attract them without throwing a whole bunch of money at them and by making some changes in not only our contract but what what we're looking at bringing laterals in on their years of service has made a huge difference and that's been very positive for us and we hope that will continue because Our numbers are growing in regards to the number of officers that we're getting. When I say that, what I want to also say is the quality officers that we're getting has been good. We're just not going to take anybody just to take anybody. We want quality officers for this city. So thank you for your comments.

Council Member Flores. Chief, thank you, sir. Appreciate the update and appreciate your team and your leadership. Two questions on the drone as first responder. You used your example of the recent missing young man. Is that just a visual or does it do like a heat map as well? I mean, are you able to comment on that?

Yeah, I can comment on that. That's not secret, so I appreciate it. So right now they're visual. They're using camera systems. There are some of our cameras that can use night vision and will seek out heat spots for us.

And I'm sure it's related to budget and the availability of budget, but is it thought that you would have multiple drones in the future in different sectors?

Yes, sir. Thank you for that. Our goal is to have our entire city covered. Our first drone DFR, drone first responder, that was through grant, which you all approved with that match. We are continuing working with getting additional through that grant program. So again, our whole goal is to make sure that we have the entire city covered. But we want to make sure we're doing it the right way. And we have the partners in place. These are placed on top of buildings. And we also have to work with the FAA to make sure that we're not violating any of their rules as well. So we don't want to rush it. We're going to make sure it's right. But yes, sir, we're going to have it covered.

Thank you. And then final question is, what is a high-level criteria for it being reportable to the NIBRS system? To make an incident or a crime reportable, what is the high-level criteria? Is it just...

Yes, sir, and I understand your question. So all crimes are reported to NIBRS. They're just in different tiers or different type of categories. For instance, the ones that I showed you today are in what they call A category. So they're broken down in different categories.

Okay. All right. But they're all reported?

They're all reported, yes, sir.

Thank you.

Absolutely.

Any other questions?

Council Member Lee.

I just wanted to say thank you. We all sit on different boards throughout the city. But when we're on boards that encompass like the county or something bigger, Round Rock is consistently a leader in the police department. They look to you guys to set the example. And it's so easy for us to be cheerleaders here in Round Rock. We're out in Williamson County, and these boards are telling us, oh, well, Round Rock PD does this. And so I just want to thank you for being a leader in our whole region, like everyone looks up to our department. And we appreciate that.

Thank you, Council Member Lee. And I don't want to minimize what you said, and I appreciate that. But I also attend a lot of board meetings or on a lot of boards, and they talk about Round Rock. And it's just not the police department. It's every single one of our departments. And it's you guys. You guys are absolutely amazing. And I said this before during other presentations here in front of you, is you guys, it's just not pushing things, pushing things. Y'all hold us accountable. And I think that's absolutely important. Continue to hold us accountable. Question us. Ask us why. Because it's important. We're one of the most expensive departments that the budget carries. And so you have to hold us accountable. But I also agree. I think because of that is what makes Round Rock such a great place. And it's all of us. So thank you for that.

Any other questions or comments?

Yeah, I just, you know, I've always thought that, you know, you always get asked the question, how many police officers do you need on the street? And I think one time you told me that you really can't determine that even based on, you know, population. I mean, you need police officers all over. But I think the thing that we've really done well, and you're seeing it and the benefits of it, is the, you know, the technology. And, you know, I think for our public, I know there's always concerns about big government and all that looking, but it really is to help protect them and protect y'all. You know, I remember one of the DFRs was out here behind Old Settlers or 1430, where y'all found this shooter in the middle, you know, and he was firing a gun. But it was the drone that found him instead of a police officer having to go in there and try. And then they knew where to... you know, surround him and actually get him, you know, bring him into justice. And so I just want to commend y'all, commend all your team I see back there. You know, great job. You know, y'all are a great face for the community. I mean, you even got the fire chief to sit through your presentation tonight. So, you know, that's pretty powerful. So anyway, but thank y'all very much.

Thank you, Mayor. Appreciate it. Thank you, Council.

All right. Consent agenda. All items listed under the consent agenda are considered to be retained by the city council and will be acted by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless requested by a council member. In which event, the item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered separately. Anybody have any items they want removed? All right, I'll read the consent. G1, consider approval meant from the May 28, 2026 city council meeting. G2, consider a resolution authorizing the mayor to execute a sales and service agreement with Xerox Business Solutions LLC for copier maintenance services and supplies. G3, consider a resolution authorizing the mayor to execute an agreement with Mesquite Signs LLC doing business as Sigma Graphics for the purchase of vehicle wrap services. G4, consider a resolution authorizing the mayor to execute an agreement with GT Distributors, Inc. for the purchase of public safety supplies and equipment. G5, consider a resolution authorizing the mayor to execute supplement agreement number one to the agreement between the City of Round Rock and Ford Audio Video Systems LLC for the purchase of audiovisual equipment supplies and services. G6, consider a resolution authorizing the mayor to execute an agreement with Midwest Tape LLC for the purchase of digital materials for the library. I'll entertain a motion to adopt the consent. So moved.

Second.

Motion made by Council Member Ortega, second by Council Member Lee. Any other discussion? And please call the council.

Council Member Lee. Yes. Council Member Flores.

Yes.

Council Member Fleming. Yes. Council Member Ortega.

Yes.

Mayor Procham Stevens. Yes. Council Member Montgomery. Yes. Mayor Morgan.

Yes. Resolutions H1, consider a resolution authorizing the mayor to execute quantity adjustment change order number one, Ron and Butler Construction Inc. for the fire station number 10 project.

Good afternoon or good evening, Mayor and Council. This is a change order for the agreement between the City of Brown Rock and Brown and Butler for miscellaneous changes, both design and owner-initiated items during construction. This change order is for $99,519.89. And this will be added back into the owner embedment embedded into the contract. And with that, I'd be happy to answer any questions.

Questions to Council Member Fleming?

I just had one question. I just noticed, I guess, part of the expense was that y'all were changing the placement of the sign on the building. Was I reading that right?

Maybe not. The exterior sign on the building.

I think it's line item four. Yeah. So I just wasn't sure. I don't know if this was...

I'm sorry, go ahead.

Oh, no, that's okay. I just wasn't sure. I know that we were using like the models, the same models as we build new fire stations. So was it just a redesign or was it because of the structure house located on the property? Right. I think we looked at the...

It's a great question. Sorry to interrupt you. It was a... It was a combination of owner-initiated, hey, we want to redo the lighting, the back lighting on the sign. And there was also a couple things that went into that one. So their locker rooms, doors were added. We didn't have doors in there before, so we added those kind of styles that you see in a grocery store going into there. So it was a combination of both.

Okay. Thank you.

You're welcome. Any other questions over here? Questions over here? Are you going to take a motion to adopt the resolution? So moved.

Second.

Motion made by Council Member Ortega, seconded by the Mayor Pro Tem. Any other discussion? And please poll the council.

Council Member Flores? Yes. Council Member Fleming? Yes. Council Member Ortega?

Yes.

Mayor Pro Tem Stephens? Yes. Council Member Montgomery? Yes. Council Member Lee? Yes. Mayor Morgan?

Yes. Thank you, H3. Consider a resolution authorizing Mayor to execute a real estate contract with Avery Ranch Company, LTD, I'm sorry, H2. Consider resolution authorizing the mayor to execute quantity adjustment change for number one with Smith Contracting Company for the Gattis School Road Improvement Segment 6 project. Michael.

Good evening, Mayor and Council. This is segment six of Gattuskill Road. It's under construction right now. This is a change order quantity adjustment, some cleanup items. We did go out to bid on this project a while back. We did cancel it because we were waiting on dry utilities. So repackaged it, went out to bid. Smith Contracting is the bidder that's doing the work. So the quantity adjustment and change order items, it's a total of a $76,000 increase. One of the bigger items was we had a lot of the traffic signal material ordered with the first contract. So we had the material. So when we went out to bid, the line item included the material plus the labor. We already had the material. So we're taking out that, and then we're change ordering it, just paying for the labor to do the work. There's some silt fencing and some concrete additions that we had to add in this plan as well. So it's an increase of $76,857. This project is going well. We're estimated to complete it around the fall of 2027. And it goes from, you see there, Rusk Road, just east of Rusk Road right here. And it goes all the way a little bit past Red Buds. So project is underway. And it'll be three lanes in each direction. I'll be happy to answer any questions regarding this quantity adjustment change order number one. Questions?

Questions? Council Member Fleming.

I had forgotten to ask on Tuesday. Was the project slowed down with this change order, or is it something that they could keep moving along and still on time?

It's not affecting the schedule. They're on schedule.

Okay. Thank you.

Any other questions? I entertain a motion to adopt the resolution. Move.

Second.

Motion made by Council Member Ortega, second by Council Member Lee. Any other discussion? And please call the council.

Council Member Fleming. Yes. Council Member Ortega.

Yes.

Mayor Procham Stephens. Yes. Council Member Montgomery. Yes. Council Member Lee. Yes. Council Member Flores.

Yes.

Mayor Morgan.

Yes. H3, consider a resolution authorizing Mayor to execute a real estate contract with Avery Ranch Company LTD et al. for the purchase of a 1.62 acre parcel required for construction of the proposed Kenny Fort Boulevard Segment 5 roadway project. Michael.

CUNY Fort Segment 5 is a road that's under design right now. It'll go from Old Sellers Boulevard. As you, off the map, it'll come right through here, and then it'll tie in at County Road 112, which is under construction right here. The parcel we are purchasing is 1.62 acres from Avery Ranch Company. The total cost is $162,000. The price per square foot is similar to a cost that we bought on a different parcel in this same area, so we did get a good price for it. We are continuing to acquire the right-of-way for this road. We have about nine or ten more parcels that we will be bringing before council that extends along this direction. We are planning to bid the project in the spring of 2028, assuming we can get all our construction money in order. But that's kind of the schedule. We're getting close to 60% plans, as well as continuing to acquire the right-of-way. So I'd be happy to answer any questions regarding this acquisition of 1.62 acres of future right-of-way. Questions? Mayor Protun.

Thank you, Michael. The parcels that are left to acquire, are they all north of this parcel, or do we have any still to acquire that are south?

Both directions. Right here is Walling, Bradley, Parkway. So this piece from right here, as you extend here, is also owned by the Averys. We're negotiating that. And then most of the other ones are south of that as you head towards Old Sellers Boulevard.

Okay. And once you cross Walling, Bradley, is that all going to be purchased as one parcel or negotiated as one parcel?

Yes, I'm pretty sure this pause from right here all the way to right there is one property owner.

Okay.

Thank you. Any other questions? Questions? Council Member Flores?

Hey, Michael, is there a Segment 6 at some point in the future? Will it actually go to University ultimately? Yes, sir.

So Segment 5 will come right here, and it will intersect with Counter 112. Segment 6 will start right there, and it will cut through the Nelson property all the way to University.

Thank you. Yes, sir.

Any other questions?

Do you entertain a motion to adopt the resolution?

So moved.

Second. Motion made by Council Member Fleming, seconded by Council Member Ortega. Any other discussion? And then please pull the council.

Councilmember Ortega?

Yes.

Mayor Pro Tem Stevens? Yes. Councilmember Montgomery? Yes. Councilmember Lee? Yes. Councilmember Flores?

Yes.

Councilmember Fleming? Yes. Mayor Morgan?

Yes. H4, consider resolution authorizing Mayor to execute a contract for engineering services with STV Inc. for the Westinghouse Road Eastern Water Transmission Line Project.

This is a project that's under design right now for the extension of a water line on the east side of town. Right here you see Barton Hill, the highest point in the city. So we send a lot of water to that tank. And then it comes through these blue lines. The project that's under design is to design another water line from this Rabbit Hill Road, Westinghouse location. It will head east along Westinghouse Road over here to AW Grimes. And then it'll head south and tie in right here at University. This will be a 36-inch diameter line right here. And then the remainder will be a 30-inch diameter line. This is part of our water master plan. It's been on the list. This will really help us in the northeast as that area continues to develop and grow. This will allow us to push water in that area to meet the pressures and the demands for us. So this item is an engineering contract with STV for $235,000. They've done work for us on many occasions in the past. They're a good engineering firm. Representing STV is Lindsay Webb right here. She's an engineer with that firm. So I'd be happy to answer any questions regarding this future water line project. Questions?

Entertain a motion to stop the resolution. So moved.

Second.

Motion made by Council Member Ortega, seconded by Mayor Pro Tem. Any other discussion? And please, public council.

Mayor Pro Tem Stephens. Yes. Council Member Montgomery.

Yes.

Council Member Lee. Yes. Council Member Flores.

Yes.

Council Member Fleming. Yes. Council Member Ortega. Yes. Mayor Morgan.

Yes.

Thank you for being here.

H5, consider a resolution authorizing the Mayor to execute an area of local cooperation agreement with the City of Huddle regarding a wastewater certificate of convenience and necessity service area amendment for a property located at the southeast corner of Redbud Lane, County Road 123.

When water utilities provide service, they are required to have a CCN, Certificate of Convenience and Necessity, with the Public Utility Commission. The area we're at here in town is here, Highway 79. And here's Redbud Lane. And then you got counter 123 right here. So the hatched area is a parcel, 31 acres, that's located in the city of Round Rock City Limits. But it's located in the Huddo Wastewater CCN. You see much of this area right through here is in the Huddo service area. So Pulte Homes would like to develop this property. And they've been in negotiations along with the city in discussing this with Huddo. for Hutto to release their wastewater CCN for this tract of land and Round Rock to take it into our wastewater CCN. When we check into that, we first look, okay, it's in our city limits. We have the capacity. We plan for all of the area within our ETJ to be able to serve that. We don't always have the right to serve it because it may be, like in this instance, Hutto's service area. Hutto has agreed to release it. We will take it on. So this first item, H5, is for the documentation for Round Rock to accept that 31 acres into our wastewater CCN. Here's our wastewater treatment plant. As you know, everything flows southeasterly in Round Rock. So when you're downhill from our wastewater plant, they will have to put a lift station in there and pump it back uphill across Redbud to tie into an interceptor here. That's the plan, and we'll move forward with that. Mayor, I'll also talk about H-6, since it's similar. On that one, the city of Hutto requested that the city of Round Rock do not issue any building permits until Pulte Homes pay for the amount of money to release from their service area. Utilities sometimes do that because they've invested in, let's just say, wastewater treatment or whatever, and they have debt service. So when property gets out of their service area, that means they're not going to be able to get revenue from that property, so they will ask for a release of service area. And Pulte has agreed with Huddle to make a payment to Huddle for that. So until that check gets cut between those two, we will agree to not issue any building permits on this property right here. So we'll work through that. Here tonight is Ben Osgood with Pulte. He's representing them. If you have any specific questions, they want to do single-family homes here. It is a low area that we've talked about before. We should call it Arden Park. Floodplain does encroach on a lot of this, but they know that they're going to have to build that up to get the slabs out of the floodplain. That's both H5 and H6. I'll be happy to answer any questions you have. Questions on H5?

Any time, motion to adopt the resolution.

So moved.

Second. Motion made by Council Member Fleming, seconded by Council Member Ortega. Any other discussion? And please poll the council.

Council Member Montgomery. Yes. Council Member Lee. Yes. Council Member Flores? Yes. Council Member Fleming? Yes. Council Member Ortega?

Yes.

Mayor Projim-Stevens? Yes. Mayor Morgan?

Yes. H6, consider a resolution authorizing the Mayor to execute a service area agreement with the City of Hutto regarding a wastewater certificate of convenience and necessity boundary amendment for certain property located at the southeast corner of Redbud Lane and County Road 123. Questions on this? I'm going to take a motion to adopt the resolution. So moved. Second. Motion made by Council Member Flores. Second by Council Member Ortega. Any other discussion? And please pull the council.

Council Member Lee. Yes. Council Member Flores. Yes. Council Member Fleming. Yes. Council Member Ortega.

Yes.

Mayor Procham Stevens. Yes. Council Member Montgomery. Yes. Mayor Morgan.

Yes. Thank you, Michael. Thank you for being here. Ordinances I-1, considering an ordinance repealing Chapter 2, Article 2, Section 2-26B-5B, Code of Ordinances 2018 Edition regarding procedure for citizen placement item on agenda, amending the order of subsequent sections. First reading. Steve, you going to? Yeah.

Council, I thought it would be... Sure.

Might be helpful for you to, if I went over a little bit of the... the history of the Texas Open Meetings Act and other ordinance and charter and so forth that deal with the transparency and open meetings. And so the original Open Meetings Act was adopted by the Texas legislature in 1967. It merely allowed the public to attend and listen to a meeting. It did not contain a requirement that the public had a right to give comments at a public meeting. The Open Meetings Act was substantially revised in 1973. But again, it only required that a governmental meeting be open to the public. There was no requirement that the public had a right to provide comments at the meeting. On August 13, 1977, an election was held in the city of Round Rock, and the voters approved a home rule charter. And the charter included section 3.11, which reads as follows. The city council shall, by ordinance, determine its own rules and order of business, and the rules shall provide that citizens of the city shall have a reasonable opportunity to be heard at any meeting in regard to any matter under consideration. This charter provision made Round Rock one of the first cities in the state to allow public comment on an agenda item. About one year later, on October 26, 1978, the council adopted ordinance number 570 to comply with the charter to determine the rules and order of business, and to provide the citizens with a reasonable opportunity to be heard on any matter under consideration. I attended that meeting. However, the council's ordinance went well beyond the requirements of the Texas Open Meetings Act that simply required meetings to be open to the public. and the charter that required that citizens be provided with the opportunity to comment on an item that had been placed on the agenda. The ordinance went beyond that to allow a process for the public to request an item to be placed on the council's agenda. It was not until 2019 that the Texas Open Meetings Act was amended to give the public the right to comment on items on the posted agenda at the public meeting. So you can see that the city of Round Rock was 41 years ahead of the state of Texas in giving the public the right to comment at a council meeting. I was the city attorney for 45 years, and stepped down in October of 2022. For those of you who don't know, I am here tonight in place of the current city attorney, who is my law partner, Stephanie Sandry. Stephanie is attending her mother's 80th birthday party tonight, and she asked me to sit in for her. During my 45 years of tenure as a city attorney, The provision that allows a citizen to place an item on the council agenda was never utilized, not one time. The first and only time that a member of the public has requested an item to be placed on the agenda occurred a mere few months ago. And finally, there are over 1,200 cities in Texas And I'm aware of no other city in Texas that gives the public the right to place items on the council's agenda. Any questions?

Questions on any of this? I do have one. I wasn't able to be here Tuesday. How does this, I mean, this does run afoul with the current Open Meetings Act, doesn't it, with the posting requirements? Because now it's three business days instead of 72 hours.

Right. And, of course, we have to abide by state law on when we post the agenda. So if there's a conflict between state law and an ordinance, then state law is supreme. Okay.

Yeah. Mayor Pro Tem.

I have one question. So if a request was brought to put something on the agenda, we have no say in what that item is. So it could be annexing Round Rock from Texas. It's fair game for anything to be put on?

Yeah, there's no restriction on the topics that a citizen could place on the agenda.

And none of us have the ability to then remove it? Hate speech, anything like that, correct?

That's correct.

OK, thank you.

Any other questions? All right. I have some cards. All right. When I call your name, please come down to the podium, state your name, address for the record. And then after you speak, I'd ask that you remain at the podium to ensure that council doesn't have any questions. for you since this item is on the agenda. Courtney Howe.

Hi.

My name is Courtney Howe. I live at 1020 Balanced Rock Place, Stone Oak. And I am against repealing this ordinance. Listening to you tell the history is actually really cool. Thank you for being here, and thank you for sharing that. It's something exciting to see that even 40 years ago, Round Rock was interested in what their citizens cared about, that you wanted to hear from us if we had concerns. And I'm concerned that you want to repeal it. I hear you talking about hate speech. And I totally understand your concerns. But how often do the citizens of Round Rock really engage in hate speech when they're coming here and talking in their three, five minutes? I know people are crazy. I work in a public field as well. And sometimes their concerns are out of pocket. But it's having that ability to raise those concerns that makes our city amazing, that makes me want to stay here, that makes me want to raise my family here, to have kids here. If you repeal that ability to do that, it's not going to stop that passion. It's not going to stop our citizens from caring. They'll direct that in other ways, which I have concerns may be dangerous, may be unsafe, may be harmful to our community. I don't want that to happen. I want there to be safe procedures to be able to raise our concerns if we have them. And I think it's a good thing that you have these. It shows that we're better than the rest of Texas. Why would you get rid of that? Why wouldn't you want to brag about that to everyone? that you care so much about your citizens that you go above and beyond the Open Meetings Act to let us speak and to raise our concerns if we have them. Those are good things. Don't get rid of it. Thank you.

All right. Anybody have any questions? Council Member Fleming.

Thank you for coming to speak. I just was wondering, have you ever emailed our city staff and asked to discuss any of the issues?

I have not, if I'm being completely honest with you guys. And I don't want to sway you in any way. But I found out about this from a Reddit post that someone had posted. Shout out if you're here, the Reddit person. I don't know who you are, but you rock. And that was how I found out. Honestly, I've been pretty disengaged from the city. We moved here about two, three years ago. haven't been attending these meetings. But I want to do more. Seeing that university was cool. My husband was applying in the back while we were talking about it. And I want this ability to be able to continue to raise these concerns to continue.

No, and I appreciate it. I just wanted to let you know that if you ever do have ideas and stuff and you're emailing the city, we get all of them. We respond to them. We welcome meetings. When people are not wanting to meet, we're asking them to even when they don't respond. So definitely want to engage and not trying to stifle any speech. Just wanted to assure you that. Thank you.

Mayor Proton.

And I would just remind you, like you're doing now and like the opportunity was at the beginning of the meeting, you can come and you can say whatever you want. And we do have a mayor that tends to let you go longer if you have a message to convey. So I would encourage you and you can do it four times a month because you can come to packet briefings and you can come to meetings and you can say whatever you want in that time. So that opportunity is still there and I would encourage you to use it. And like Council Member Fleming said, contact us. We're approachable.

Can I ask you a question? Sure. Yeah. It's only three minutes, right? This moment that we have? That is what it says, yes. So what if I want to show you a presentation? What if I want to have a big discussion about something? I know that not a lot of people will, but there can be big concerns that I think are beneficial for you guys to hear in this room. There's a lot of people out here who deserve to hear their community members' concerns as well in a larger capacity than three minutes.

I do find it interesting that this ordinance has been in place as long as I've been here. And until last month, it was never used. So it is something to consider. But again, like you said, if you have a presentation, send it to us. Email us. Say, let's go have coffee and talk. I promise you, we utilize Lamp Post all the time. It's right down the street. And we're happy to meet with you and hear what you have to say. And sign up for university.

And I think, and you did a great job presenting your concerns. And I would just encourage you, you know, if it's a presentation of some sort, and if it's a big enough item, you know, it takes two council members to put it on the agenda. And, you know, and you have the discussion. But a lot of times it happens, you know, you don't really get to see the hamburger meat being made, right? And a lot of times it happens behind the scenes. As long as I've been up here, I've let people speak. It doesn't eliminate that opportunity. If you go look at every city across the state of Texas, some of them are only one minute. Some of them only make you sign up days in advance instead of just walking in and signing up. And so we try to be reasonable with it. But we also have to be an efficient government to get through the processes and stuff. And most big issue items, there's going to be either a public hearing or it's going to be something like what we're having here.

I hear you, but those public hearings, we don't always find out about them until too late. I found about this from Reddit, not from you guys. So that's why I want our citizens to still be able to raise these concerns, even if it's once in a blue moon, that there's a procedure in place for when that happens, I think is important.

And, you know, the agenda is always posted before the 2nd and the 4th Thursday three days in advance. So, you know, that will let you be able to see it as well. So, I mean, you know, it can, you know, I think where some of the noise, you know, where it gets mixed in. is, you know, there's 13 cities in the state of Texas. I mean, there's over 1,300 cities in the state, and there's only 13 cities in the state of Texas that have received all six transparency awards for good governance from the comptroller's office.

We're one of them, right?

Yep, and we're one of them.

Let's keep it up. Thank you. Thank you.

Nathaniel Chapman.

Hello. My name is Nathan Chapman. I'm from 2008 Inverness Drive in Round Rock, Texas. And I would like to speak in opposition to repealing this. I think I was also very glad to hear the history about this. I'm very interested in history myself. And so I would have had no idea about how this came about. But I think that it would be a mistake to repeal this just because it hasn't been used very often. It's like saying that if you had an umbrella, you've walked outside most days of your life and it doesn't rain. Why take the umbrella? Or why get rid of the umbrella? It could rain one day. And while that may not be the most straightforward metaphor. I think that it would be a mistake to get rid of this just because it hasn't been used very often. And whenever I read the rules of it, it seemed pretty deliberate that it was written in a way where if someone were to perhaps bring something outrageous I think that could probably be dealt with. I don't think that there would be a scenario where someone would bring a insane presentation here and probably wouldn't get escorted by the police. I don't think that anyone's going to come up here and is going to make any arguments. that are absurd, perhaps without being dealt with, as a crazy person may be. I don't understand why it would be gotten rid of then. It was a forward-thinking measure for its time. And I think even to this day, it still is a forward-thinking measure. I don't understand why we would get rid of it, even though it's not used very often. Thank you. Thank you.

Anybody have any questions?

All right. Thank you.

Jessica Chambers. How are you?

Nervous. Hi.

Don't be.

This is my first time at a council meeting. I'm very excited. That's all right. I'm Jessica Chambers, residing 910 Bluff Drive here in Round Rock. And like I said, this is my first council meeting. It's been a long time since I've really been able to put myself into a position to be able to do so. My family has lived in Round Rock forever. We're going back at least four generations, maybe even farther. My great-grandma has a plaque in the library because we were there when we got to be able to do that, have her recognized as an official person who was a part of Round Rock. She was one of the teachers at Round Rock High and all. We've lived here a very long time. We've had a very tumultuous life. As I became an adult and was able to exercise my own civic rights and everything, get to voting, learn more about my community, We've had a slew of medical issues and everything. I watched my father die from glioblastoma, which is grade four brain cancer. We've suffered many losses as a community and everything. And it's something that's impacted our family very greatly. I got to tell my grandparents about this particular issue today. There's people who have lived in the community a long time. But in much the same way as my brother, my mother, our friends and family and everything, there's a lot of stuff about our current system that they're very disconnected from. We haven't been able to find information on this until it became popular on social media and everything. And I would argue that that largely shows that maybe there's more of a disconnection in communication that is currently impacting things, because this is something I would have loved to have known about for so many different things, even for subjects that matter a lot to me, like shouting out the Dr. Marnie Rose Foundation, which benefits brain cancer here in Texas, and their research, killing it. This is just one of those things that I would say that, like, I'm very excited about the opportunity that it provides and finding out about it as you guys are suggesting that we should take it away. And it's such a cool opportunity to be able to have the option to bring up something and provide those details well in advance for consideration to be able to put onto the minutes and everything. And three minutes, as we're discussing things right now, is great to be able to react to the things that you guys have been working really hard on. But 15 minutes will also give us such a great opportunity to be able to tell you about all sorts of different things, whatever that might be, and bring them to consideration for you guys, but also our larger community for a variety of topics that they don't know about. And I'm really hoping that we won't have that opportunity taken away from us. As me and my brothers, we've grown, are a part of this community, learn more about the options that are available to us. So please don't repeal it.

Thank you. And you did really well for your first time up here.

Thank you.

I want Council Member Fleming to say a few words.

Off the topic, I just want to say I'm sorry about your dad. My son had battled brain cancer when he was seven in the brain stem. So I know what you've gone through. And I really appreciate what you're doing to continue advocating in his honor. So sorry that affected your family.

Yeah, it really sucks. And I'm really glad that your son made it through. I'm really proud.

He did. Oh, he did.

Oh, I thought you said, I'm so sorry. Well... I feel you. I sympathize with you. Thank you.

Anybody else?

It's a hard thing. Thank you so much. Anam Raziski. If I said that wrong, I apologize.

Hello.

I don't think I have too much to say today, but I have a couple questions. I'm also just as happy to learn about the history of this ordinance, and I read an article that you were quoted in earlier today, so I'm really happy to meet you here. I'm just wondering, why is this item placed on the agenda this evening? Like, why?

You want to answer that, or...

Yeah. Yeah. So this was an item placed on the agenda after the recent utilization of this provision. And so on reflection and discussion of the language that is in the section of the ordinance, as was laid out here tonight. It's a request. So when these items came up, it is who gets to make the determination on whether that request is filled or not filled, the timeline of the six days it's in there, can lead to noncompliance with the Open Meetings Act. And so there was concern about being able to implement this going forward. As was laid out, what happens when items come in that may be unsavory or all kinds of different issues that could come up from a legal standpoint. So worked with the city attorney's office on what those edges were, what the potential problems could be. And it was determined to bring forward a repeal of that section.

OK. No, understood. Yeah. And I know, I believe you had mentioned, and I think we all agree that there were, so far it's only been utilized three times, right? And that was most recently. So I mean, it feels like something to brag about that. Round Rock was kind of ahead of the game in terms of this and allowing the residents to have a voice. So in a time like this where it's now being utilized, it almost feels counterproductive to then take that privilege away to address you all for longer than just three minutes, which I'm sure, hopefully, I have another question, by the way. So I will keep track of time, but I'm confused as to who would benefit from this? I know that there are parameters around the Open Meetings Act. Obviously, we don't want to get into any kind of legal issues. But at the same time, it really feels like a loss for the residents. And I know you guys are so kind and inviting in terms of allowing us to speak with you all in other ways. But how would this be beneficial for us to now repeal this?

Well, I think those are fair questions. When this ordinance was created, you didn't have email. You didn't have a lot of things in place. And as time has progressed, I've seen some stuff where this restricts. It's restricting First Amendment rights. A First Amendment right is being able to protest and do what you want. freedom of expression out on our Preet Plaza and in our other public spaces and there's no infringement that happens on that but I think that there's so many more opportunities if you really want to engage I mean if it's really about engaging and learning and trying to solve the problems I mean I We're all available. I mean, we meet. I mean, we meet with people that are angry with us. So it is something that is there. And we have responsibility for the efficiency of government, too. And it can get misused going, you know, for a period of time on speaking. And again, other cities aren't doing it. Again, I've sat up here for 15 years, and it's never risen. And I guess my question back to a lot of the speakers is, if it was so important, why hasn't it been used? I think, you know what I mean?

I mean, is that, you know, no, totally, totally valid. No, absolutely. And I think like someone else had mentioned, I don't think many people were aware that we had the opportunity to utilize it. And now that it's being brought forth, I think more people are inclined to, you know, still have the opportunity to do so. And I also hear your points where I do believe that you guys are available for us. And I do believe that you would do your best to make sure that we are heard. So I'm grateful for that. I really am. I'm also trying to, I guess, like, the three people that have utilized it in the past, would they happen to be, was it Bill Clifton, Billy Coburn, and Michael?

Don't worry about that.

Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. Seriously. No. Is it those people? As far as I know, those are three individuals that I know utilize this ordinance to speak to you all. Would they happen to be the three people? No. They are the only three people who have ever utilized this? OK. So for this to be repealed right now, and for me to like, am I right in assuming that what they were raising awareness for is not something that the city necessarily agreed with? No?

I mean, I guess you could make that argument, but, I mean, someone found the ordinance to be able to do it, and then we found, you know, one of the firefighters actually asked to speak again and, again, ran into a conflict with the posting laws. And so we see it more that it was, you know, that it conflicts with what governs us, and that's the Open Meetings Act. And so it wasn't, you know, it wasn't this magic one that we said, hey, let's do it, you know. And so, I mean, you know, we're going to, you know, the state's always watching. And, you know, they're pretty anti-local. And so, you know, we're going to, you know, we just feel like this is the best thing. And I think that there's just more opportunities for engagement. And really, and again, if it's any significant issue, I mean, as I've said, I've sat up here 15 years, it's any significant issue, there's usually a public hearing and a public comment. The agendas have to be posted. And so it's just a thing to make sure that we are doing what we're supposed to do under the law.

Yeah, I feel like we're going down a tangent rabbit hole here, but just back to just the basic principle. The rules that we're making are based on the Texas Open Meeting Act, which is the law of Texas, right? And leaving this ordinance is a direct conflict with the Texas Open Meeting Act, correct?

Post and requirements.

Yes, for the Texas Open Meeting Act.

Yes.

You've been around a long time, Mr. Sheets. Are there other times where Texas law has changed over time where we found out our ordinances contradict the state, so we've had to change them? And I know the answer is yes, because I know we've got, like, we had to repeal the curfew, for one. We've had to, over time, make changes to our ordinances. as the Texas legislature has made laws and changed things and taken away local control to Mayor's point, we still have to make sure that we're following their guidelines. So just because it was the rule, the ordinance was established in the 70s, doesn't mean it has to be set. We are constantly looking and finding Changes that have to be made basically because of the state of Texas.

So just a little bit different Perspective on it also no and totally imperative to include I mean I'm in no way shape or form, you know insinuating that we should do anything illegal for sure just to clarify Okay But yeah, thank you so much I think a lot of us are here to just do exactly that is understand how we got here why this is an item on the agenda now and how would this be beneficial to us all? So I really do sincerely appreciate all of you guys for answering my questions.

And any time that you want to sit down about any concern, issues, or even more questions, I mean, I think any of us would welcome that. I really do.

I believe it. Yeah. Thank you so much. All right.

Thank you. Peter Orr?

Council members, my name is Peter Orr. I live at 1516 Ashwood Court. I've lived there for 31 years. The question I have has already been asked. Why? Why is this even on the agenda? There seems to be no good reason to repeal this ordinance. The other speakers before me have already articulated that. I don't have much else to add to that except for You should vote no on repealing this ordinance.

Anybody have any questions? All right. Thank you, Mr. Orr. Cheyenne Krause. I believe I said that right. Maybe. Cheyenne Krause. All right. I'll call her in a second in case she stepped out. Lily Trevino. Good evening.

Good evening. How's everyone?

Doing well.

We're hanging in there. All right, I will try and read this quickly. My name is Lily Trevino. I live at 901 South Main Street in Round Rock. I strongly oppose the repeal of the 48-year-old Round Rock ordinance that allows citizens to place agenda items on the city council agenda. It gives citizens up to 15 minutes to address the council directly and in public, and its intent is to provide citizens more time to thoroughly explain new or complex subjects and issues that are important to their community. I have been planning to formally present to the council tonight evidence about environmentally harmful practices by the city at Old Settlers Park, and more broadly, how to minimize the environmental impact of Round Rock's growth and expansion. Although my request was crafted and submitted in complete compliance with the ordinance, the city clerk rejected it in what appears to be a violation of my rights. It is my belief that the council may be unaware of the dangerous practices employed by the staff at Old Settlers Park and across Round Rock that threaten the health and well-being of people, flora, wildlife, and pollinators. The conclusion of my plan presentation is this. The city of Round Rock's current environmental policy is in direct opposition to what they have promised, particularly through your B-City resolution. City staff has been and is currently using known carcinogens, including glyphosate, in large, sometimes massive quantities throughout most, if not all, of Old Settlers Park. They have destroyed the ability to sustain life in the park and endangered everyone who visits and plays there. In fact, cities across the country, including Denton, Texas, have banned the use of pesticides and herbicides containing glyphosate on publicly owned land, and Round Rock should too. The practices directly contradict council resolutions and other public statements, including the Bee City resolution that embodied your commitment to the environment, pollinators, and invertebrates. City staffers have apparently ignored or are unaware of your direction. They certainly don't want citizens to know what they're doing. Year after year, Umbinosa citizens' ecosystem as Old Settlers Park have been treated as problems or obstacles to be eradicated. OK, as a citizen, I am appalled. As a young mother of a toddler, I feel betrayed. I trusted that my child would be safe playing at old Settlers Park. And I wanted to bring some of these concerns like others have said, peacefully within the law. I was genuinely really excited to be able to do this. And it's incredibly disappointing that in a time of our lives, I understand what you're saying, that people haven't used this in so long. But that's really a testament, I mean, not to a failure of the law itself, but to just people's apathy. And people are trying to turn that around now. So I would encourage you, maybe at least you've got to repeal it, whatever, if there's a conflict. But are we able to amend this ordinance in some way that does protect against potential bad actors, that does limit the time so that people aren't spending hours and hours and hours et cetera, some of the, I guess, suggestions that people have brought up. So I think I'm always a middle ground kind of person. And I want to see if I will find that middle ground. Because the three minutes, it isn't exactly enough. And clearly, I don't think you say that this stuff is all posted. Nobody except for me, really bored on Friday night, is looking at the city agenda. And I just happened to see that y'all were going to repeal this. Thank you for giving me a little extra time.

Yeah. And I know that the staff sent you an email. I don't know if you received it about setting up a meeting to be able to discuss all your environmental concerns. And I don't know that you've responded as of today. But I encourage you to respond and come in here. And if it's something that is not correct, then we will get it on the agenda, and then you will be able to come back and present it to the whole group. Or the staff may be able to make the decision that says, look, this is something that is a concern. And so don't shy away from that. I mean, I don't think anybody... dismisses what your concerns are, I think they would be all about. I mean, everybody's had a kid up here that, you know. And so just, you know, I would encourage you to respond to that. And if you want one of us to be in there as well, you know, we'll be glad to sit down and let you present and show what you're hearing and seeing. OK? Any other questions or anything? Council Mayor Fleming.

No, I just wanted to say that I had seen your emails, and I appreciate you coming to speak, and I do care about your topic. So please set up a meeting, and I'd like to be a part of it.

I'd like to learn more.

I appreciate that.

All right. Council Member Lee.

And I also, just for anyone out there that would like to meet with us, and you're like, I have no idea who to reach out to. I don't know who these people are. You can also email. We have an executive assistant, and she can help get us. She's right there behind you, just so you know. Tara, she's wonderful. But she has access to our calendars. She can say, hey, let me find two council members to sit down and meet with you and talk to you. So, I mean, you don't have to know us personally to know who to talk to. But you can reach out to Tara and say, hey, I just want to talk to a couple of them. Can you set that up? And she will set it up.

Okay. All right.

Any other questions? Mayor Protean.

Yeah, Lily, I would welcome that meeting and that coffee to discuss, too. I grew up here. We are proud of our Bee City designation. We wouldn't want to do anything to jeopardize that. I say more often than not, it's not. It's never been one of us that says we're not going to meet. But what happens frequently is people come up and they're very passionate about something. And this happens in my own neighborhood where somebody's got an issue and I say, send me an email so I have it in writing and I know the right person to track down and I will help you figure that out. And then I never get anything. So to Council Member Fleming's point and Council Member Lee's point, We are happy to come sit down with you. Please just give us a call and give us a chance to see if we can solve your problem for you. All right.

I appreciate that. And, you know, you were here with all the data center stuff, right? And after that vote, you know, I received approximately five, six emails, some of them not very nice. I've asked every one of those people to sit down with me and meet. You want to know how many email responses I've gotten back to meet?

Zero. Yeah. Zero.

So, you know, if it's about engaging and really educating us and us saying, you know, being able to tell the citizens what's kind of going on, you know, where we are, and then see if there's some kind of compromise or something, you know, then, you know, so I'll be honest. That's where some of my frustration lies is that, you know, there's people that have been in front of this council numerous times and have never asked for one meeting. And I'm not going to sit there and e-mail and get back and forth on an email. Because you can't tell the content of it, the demeanor, nothing. I want to do it in person. And let's have the conversation. And you know what? We may still walk away and not agree. And that's OK. But you know what? If we each learn a little bit of our perspective, I think it only helps us moving forward. And I appreciate your engagement. I mean, we really do.

Yeah, awesome. I appreciate that. I would say, I guess to that, I just say, yeah, I think this has all happened really fast over the last couple months. It's all over Texas. It's not just here in Round Rock. And I love this place as much as the next person, as everybody who's spoken. And I think that's what we're all here for, is just to protect Round Rock and the things that we love about it. So yes, hopefully we can get together soon. All right. Thank you.

Thank you again.

Oh, Council Member Tager. I'm going to let you sit down because I have a comment also. As you heard from the other city council members and the mayor, that we are approachable. I have repeated time and time again on the dais that I have an open door policy. So as the mayor has said, no one has reached out to me individually. saying in the beginning they did. And obviously, they got their resolve. They were able to resolve their issues. But again, I'd like to remind the citizens, all of you have a right to send us emails. You voted us to be here for one of those main reasons. So please, I encourage you, email us Individually, there's a website. All of our email addresses are out there. Other than that, Tara gets them also, and she'll disseminate them to the appropriate people if you don't know who to reach out to. We are open to you, all of you. And that's all I have to say. So please follow through and let us know. Thank you. All right, Gary Oldham.

Times already started. Good evening. Gary Oldham, 2928 Clinton Place, where I've lived for the past 20 years. I vehemently oppose the repeal of this ordinance. It's an important right to have, even if it's rarely exercised. It's kind of like an insurance policy. We hope we never need to use it, but it's comforting to have it. I submitted an agenda item, as did Ms. Trevino, last Friday under citizen communication for tonight's meeting. That was rejected by the city clerk in what appears to be a clear violation of the ordinance, since it was submitted in full compliance. I sent emails to each and every one of you, not the city manager. Actually, the acting city attorney was copied on that. And I've received not a single response from this approachable, responsive group. But that's not surprising, since that's historically what I understand citizens' experience reaching out to council members. Hundreds of emails about the data center were left unresponded to. Engagement with citizens seems to be focused on re-election time. I think the thing I want to distill tonight is we're throwing the baby out with the bathwater by repealing this. You talk about conflict with state law. That were the reasons cited for rejection of my last Friday's submission of an agenda item. That's an easy fix. If the six days in the current ordinance isn't enough, make it 10, make it 12, make it 14, whatever it needs to be. Easy fix. We're done. We're compliant with the state law. That's all it takes. We don't need to repeal this. Tuesday, I was at the PAC briefing, heard the lengthy history of the Texas Open Meetings Act, which is, in fact, interesting. But not a word was said about conflict with state law. And if that was the reason for needing to do this now, that seems to have been a time to bring it up. But bringing this ordinance into compliance with state law while still affording the citizens the opportunity to bring things to you as a body, many people would rather have things heard and discussed in public than behind closed doors. And it gives an opportunity for the entire community to be aware of what's going on as well. It's awesome that Round Rock is 41 years ahead of the state of Texas in doing this. And it's something to celebrate. proud of that. We should be proud that we're the only state that has that venue for citizens to speak. That's a thing to celebrate. We celebrate all kinds of things. Social media awards the city gets. This opportunity for citizen engagement, real citizen engagement, is something we should celebrate and protect enthusiastically, not discard. If it needs amending or modifying, let's do that. I don't want to have us in violation of state law either, but it's real easy to come into compliance with a simple change in the notification period or submission period. The seems have come up after speakers said things you didn't care for. And all of a sudden, it's a problem. We need to change it. We're not going to be quiet. We're not going to be silenced. But I urge you, let's engage with the community. Let's keep this open by amending it as needed to comply with state law.

Yeah. Any questions? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Council Member Filini.

I can't speak for anybody. I can only speak for myself. I got your emails. I saw that Ann had sent an explanation about why it was two days late per us having to do the three days before packet. So I think that's where part of the confusion comes, is that although it's an agenda for Thursday night, We actually start Tuesday night, and then it has to be three business days before that. It was a big problem. Well, just let me finish. So I saw those emails. I personally did not respond to you any further than that, and I can only speak for myself, because the times that you've been here, most recently was the data center. When the meeting ended... You were yelling and very aggressive. I am personally not comfortable meeting with you. So I left it to the mayor and to the city manager to offer to meet with you. Other people may not be comfortable. But I don't want me not responding to your emails to be a reflection to everybody else. because I have an open-door policy. I will talk to anybody. I am sure there are people in the community that will tell you that no one answers the phone, but I do, and I follow through on my word. So I will meet with any of you here, but I'm personally not comfortable meeting with you, and that's just my personal opinion. So I did want to clarify for everybody else.

Ma'am, you're entitled to your opinion. You're not entitled to your own facts. I have never yelled. I have never been aggressive, and the data center was not the last time I've spoken before council. I've been here multiple times since then. And I have not yelled, not been aggressive. And the city manager and mayor have not asked to meet with me. I'd be happy to do that upon request. But that has not happened either. So I want to correct those facts right now. I haven't yelled. I haven't been aggressive. Am I passionate? Absolutely. but not yelled and not been aggressive.

And it's a good point that you make with that you're entitled to your opinion but not, you know, to your facts. I can say the same thing back to you, Mr. Oldman, because there were emails and responses to everybody that sent a deal in from the data center. It may not have been from us, but it did go out. The emails did go out. If you want to meet, we don't know when someone wants to meet with us. We don't. As I said, I've emailed and responded and asked if they want to meet, they can meet. Quite frankly, when the data center deal came up, we asked the developer to meet with you because you were leading the charge and you wouldn't take his meeting.

So, I mean, you... As I said, I like to have meetings in public where everybody can hear the same facts and the same story.

I mean, but some people don't want to do that. They want to sit and have the conversation.

And that's fine to have that as an option. And they apparently all do, except me. But we also need a public venue where things can be heard by everybody, not just those behind closed doors. And if we're going to discuss our own facts, Mayor... During the Prop B debacle, you said that the passage of Prop B would result in $228 million cost and a 36% tax increase. However, state law says that any tax increase that occurs through passage of a measure must be so stated on the city ballot, on the election ballot. That was not the case here. So either the city violated the law by not putting that on the ballot language, or you were not being factual when you talked about the cost increase and tax increase.

If you read the flyer closely, it said, of the plan. So it was a 10-year plan. So it was of the plan. Not all just in one move. So we can sit here and have this argument. We're not going to sit here and do that up here. I appreciate you coming. And we'll look at it. And again, our door is open to sit and visit.

OK. I do want to go on record that not one of you responded to my email that I sent to you the other night. And I did not yell, and I have not been aggressive. Passionate, yes, but I don't think any reasonable person would say I've ever yelled at a council meeting. Mayor Protean.

Mr. Oldham, do you understand why the request to put something on the agenda was not approved, that there is a time limit? And I know you continue to say that was a violation by our city clerk, but it wasn't. Like, that's the rule.

It is a violation of the city ordinance. The city ordinance may be out of date and not compliant with the state law, but the city ordinance is six days in advance of the meeting, and I was in compliance with that six-day rule. And for the record, I've submitted another agenda item for the 25th under the ordinance that so far is still in effect.

OK. All right. Thank you. Richard Parson.

Good evening again. At the risk of sounding ignorant, I'm not quite sure what I walked into. But I'm listening very attentively. And I'm not sure if you're going to repeal my most precious three minutes or not. But I want to thank you for being open enough to have met with me at any time that I have wanted an audience with either of you. You've always sat down with me and listened to my issue. But my question is, am I still going to be able to have my three minutes? That's all. Because I can say all I've got to say in three minutes. And thank you very much.

Yeah, you know, very clear. There's nothing that's going to be impacted on the three minutes. You know, as the, you know, when they had the data center, I mean, we had 45 speakers. Under our ordinance, I could have actually, after 10, And yet, repetitively, I could limit the time. I didn't limit anybody's time. I mean, I know that the group didn't agree with our decision. But, you know, we tried to let, and I mean, during COVID, I mean, we had a lot of speakers come up, and I never limited time. I'm not going to limit time. You know, and I get asked, you know, I have to get asked by the city attorney, you know, Every time, if you've got this big audience, do you want to limit the time? And as long as I'm sitting here, we're not going to ever limit the three minute time if there's 100 people in the audience. We will make sure we listen to all 100. And what I have to also say is there's cities looking at, because of the, go look at Frisco, Texas right now. It's in massive chaos. on just a three-minute timeline. I mean, it is a cultural war right now going on up there. And I'm not going to prohibit people from speaking. Again, we got in this position. And so we are going, you know, it's our responsibility to listen to everybody. And, you know, I have to go back, you know, I don't think a lot of people realize a majority of the speakers from the data center folks didn't even live in the city limits of Round Rock. I mean, you know, and so, but we didn't limit it and say, okay, well, you got to be a citizen to speak. And they're looking at doing that in some cities right now because of the, just the toxicity of what's going on. And so, you know, but there's no harm in the three minutes is not going anywhere. And, you know, if I'm being honest with this younger generation, everybody does reels in three minutes. The news does their news in 90 seconds. You know, so people can get their points and make it. And then there's other ways to engage them.

Well, I appreciate that because for 16 years I've been coming on and off at city council and getting my three minutes in and getting my money's worth, I feel. And I do thank you so much for listening and being a very listening and very relatable council. Thank you. All right. Thank you. All right.

I'm going to go back to Cheyenne Krause. Cheyenne, can someone just make sure that no one's standing outside? There's not?

Okay.

All right. Are there any other speakers that didn't sign up by any chance? Oh, one more? All right. Come on. You can fill that out after you speak, just as long as you, you know, just make sure you state your name and address for the record where we can know All right. But you're not Cheyenne.

I'm not Cheyenne.

OK.

I'm Sophia. And I live at 2005 Old West Place, Round Rock, Texas. And this is my first city council meeting as well. And I just wanted to state my, I guess, what's the word, declination of this repeal and you know, being able to hear everyone's story and hear you guys go back and forth, it just speaks to the benefit of having that longer length of time to talk with us. And while you guys offer coffee dates and other things, and I totally believe you, I'm not saying that that's, I'm not trying to be facetious, these 15 minutes allow for a safe, structured, recorded, and publicly available source of accountability. to discuss our concerns. So that's really it. And everyone else spoke to all the other points. Thank you.

All right. Thank you. All right. Anybody else? No shy in. All right. I just want to make sure. All right. Any discussion or questions? Yeah, Council Member Flores.

Mayor, I appreciate everybody coming out and voicing their concerns on this on this item, I personally believe that the ordinance is just a living document. It is just that it's something that ebbs and flows over time. And there have been times we've got it right. There's been times we've got it wrong. And we've corrected it and modified it, and we've moved on. And it is this engagement that has led us to have a good quality document at the end of the day. And so I don't think this is any different. And perhaps the recent use of the items perhaps just gives us pause to say, to think about that again. And that's not, before I'm accused, that's not to say we don't know what's in our charter. It's just to say that... hey, maybe this didn't turn out the way we thought it was going to, or maybe this is not the best use of it, or maybe there was a time for that then, but maybe the time is not now. So that's just my thought is that the ordinance is a live document, and we talk about it. I've always thought quite a bit the fact that we're always... It's always brought up in a general conversation that we don't inform the public of an event or an item or an agenda thing. I will say that in my time here, this has been thought of multiple ways, looking at it. It's been discussed, rediscussed, discussed again. our marketing team, our communications team does the best job that they can do to get information out to the public. I mean, we're all busy, but it's not the fact that it's not there. Now, you may not be in your path that particular day or that particular moment, but it's there. And I've thought in my mind, I mean, as I've thought about how do we do a better job, I And I say this just jokingly. I mean, I'd have to wake you up every morning at your side of your bed and say, hey, today there's an item. Or, hey, tonight there's a meeting. And even after a while, you would say, get the heck out here. I mean, I'm not interested in that because I'm busy, because I've got to take the kids. I've got to do this. So all I'll say is that we think about it on a regular basis. Staff thinks about it on a constant basis about communicating items to the community. And I think we do a good job. It'll never be 100%. It will never be 100%. I mean, everything we do will never be 100%. We are doing the best that I think we can. We can always be better. We never rest on our laurels. But this is not taking away anybody's time. There have been strategic groups that in the past have come here And they collectively come here, three or four people. They use the three minutes each. I'm going to take this topic. I'm going to do this one. I'm going to do this one. I'm going to do this one. And it happens. And they communicate it. And so it's not that we're, I wouldn't get stuck on the 15 minutes. I guess that's what I'm trying to say. The right to speak, the right to address counsel is always available in this forum. It's always available by email, by telephone. You know, city manager's phone and email is on the website, and I run everything through him so that he knows who's engaged, what department heads need to be spoken to. So I'll say all that, and I'll stop. But just to say that there is an effort being made to communicate, and I do not personally believe that we are taking – I wouldn't get stuck on the 15 minutes, but thank you.

All right. Council Member Tagan.

Councilman Flores said the right things. We all feel this way. One of the things that we have in this city that is called the City University, you saw the graduates here earlier. If you really want to know the nitty gritty of what the city does in our departments and what the council does, sign up. Classes go pretty quickly, so they only have so many rooms. But if you miss it, there's a following year. You become our ambassadors as well. You can talk bad about us, or you can talk good about us. But you have a choice. Again, also remember. that we are also under constraint by the state legislators. They are coming after all of us again, most likely in next January. So if you really want to get involved, listen to what they're doing as well. You can be letting us know if you have a question about that as well. I'm sure we have somebody on staff who can probably help you out as well. We are all getting educated to see what's happening out there as well. Because we have to change if they make us change by passing laws. So this is what happens to us. You may not like it. We may not like it. But we do our best. And again, our doors are open. Email us individually if that's what you care to do. We will respond to that. Otherwise, you will get an email if you mail it to all of us. Either way, you have that opportunity to reach out to us. And I wanted to say thank you for all of you for coming out here. I know it's taken away from your family and some other responsibilities. But thank you so much for being here.

All right. Any other questions or comments? Council Member Lee.

And I just want to add to that that for those of you that said you do want to engage with us, I mean, once we get to know you, get to know where you live or what parts you're passionate about, when we see an agenda item, we'll let you know. I mean, I have a friend out in the audience right now. And I knew there was something about his neighborhood. I texted him the agenda. And I mean, there's just things that if you are engaged with us, we can be engaged with you and reach out to you when we see something that might affect you. I live in a very active neighborhood and anytime I see anything about Round Rock West, I make sure that my neighborhood knows because otherwise I will hear from it another way. So it's easier for us to say, hey, FYI, this is coming up. So if we can get to know you, if you want to be engaged, engage with us so we can reach out to you.

All right. Any other questions? All right. I entertain a motion to adopt the ordinance. So moved.

Second.

Motion made by Councilmember Flores, seconded by Councilmember Fleming. Any other discussion? And please poll the council.

Councilmember Flores?

Yes.

Councilmember Fleming? Yes. Councilmember Ortega?

Yes.

Mayor Pro Tem Stephens? Yes. Councilmember Montgomery? Yes. Councilmember Lee? Yes. Mayor Morgan?

Yes. I entertain a motion to dispense with the second reading. So moved.

Second.

Motion made by Council Member Ortega. Second by the Mayor Pro Tem. Any other discussion? And please poll the council.

Council Member Fleming. Yes. Council Member Ortega.

Yes.

Mayor Pro Tem Stephens. Yes. Council Member Montgomery. Yes. Council Member Lee. Yes. Council Member Flores. Yes. Mayor Morgan.

Yes. All right. I too consider an ordinance adopting amendment number one to the fiscal year 2025-2026 operating budget. Second. Read. Anybody have any questions on this? All right. I'm going to take a motion to adopt the ordinance.

So moved.

Second. Motion made by Council Member Fleming. Second by Council Member Ortega. Any other discussion? And please pull the council.

Council Member Ortega. Yes. Mayor Procham Stevens. Yes. Council Member Montgomery. Yes. Council Member Lee. Yes. Council Member Flores.

Yes.

Council Member Fleming. Yes. Mayor Morgan.

Yes, I-3, consider public testimony regarding an ordinance approving Amendment Number 7 to the Plan Unit Development Number 23, Preserve at Stone Oak, to allow for limited commercial development as a permitted use, generally located north of 1431 and west of Stone Oak Drive, First Street.

Good evening, Mayor, Council Members. This is Amendment No. 7, a major amendment to PUD No. 23. It is designated a major amendment because the applicant is proposing to change the permitted land uses that are allowed within this PUD. Geographically, we are in northwest Round Rock. Here is Arm 1431 to the south of Sendero Springs Drive. We are talking about this 13.22-acre piece of property at the northeast intersection right there. Looking at the zoning map, this is part of PUD number 23, along with the single-family neighborhood to the north and the commercial tracks to the west over here. To the south, we have the Sendero Springs portion of the Brushy Creek mud. We have single-family neighborhood inside city limits to the north and to the east. So this PUD was originally adopted in 1995, and most recently in 2018. This particular parcel, parcel 4E, where we are looking right here, was amended to allow for a place of worship. It was not previously allowed there. A local church bought the property thinking they would be building a facility there, so they purchased the property, went through the PUD amendment process in 2018. Their plans have since changed, and they are looking to sell the property. The new buyer on the property would like to develop it for commercial purposes instead, and so that's why we are here to discuss the PUD amendment. This property is designated for commercial use on the 2030 Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Map, and it has been that way since 2010, if not actually earlier than that. And the commercial land use designation is intended for areas that are appropriate for retail sales and services that help to serve the local residents who live nearby. So typically, you would see commercial development like this at a major intersection along an arterial roadway in front of or adjacent to a neighborhood. The current PUD has the base zoning district of office, so it allows every land use within the office zoning district, which it is pretty limited, just offices, usually daycare with a small size limitation. It also allows places of worship with unrestricted square footage of accessory uses. It allows senior living of various types, as well as a daycare up to a maximum of 20,000 square feet. The proposed PUD amendment will change the base zoning district to the C1A, or the General Commercial Limited Zoning District, with the following land uses over here on the right side of the screen. But there are many conditions that will apply to some of those commercial land uses. So, for example, the daycare is going to be limited to 15,000 square feet, so we're bringing that down by 5,000 square feet compared to the current entitlement. Fuel sales, if somebody wanted to build a gas station there, they'd be limited about how large it can be and how far away or how close to the residents those fuel pumps, vacuums, and air pumps could be. Similar for auto service facilities, if anybody wanted to open an oil change type of shop here, they'd have to be at least 200 feet away from the residential property. And the bay doors, the roll-up garage doors, could not face those residences either. Bars are prohibited. Any outdoor eating, drinking, and patio areas have to be set back at least 200 feet from the residential property line. And outdoor live music is also prohibited. Drive-thrus are limited to restaurants, banks, and pharmacies, but there are only a maximum of two standalone drive-thrus that are permitted. A third could be allowed if it was the end cap on a multi-tenant retail building. Additionally, we have restrictions on the location of the stacking spaces in the speaker box for those drive-thru facilities. Dog daycares are allowed, but all activities have to be within an enclosed building, and we limit the hours for drop-off. Typically, those facilities can be quite noisy, so we want to make sure we're implementing reasonable restrictions to increase compatibility with the neighborhood. And finally, sports training facilities and specialty gyms would also be allowed. You can think of these facilities as like your gymnastics or cheerleading facilities or your batting cages. The C1A zoning district also permits all of these land uses right here that we are proposing to prohibit with this PUD amendment. We don't feel like they would be appropriate to be at this location and adjacent to this neighborhood right here. So we're using the opportunity provided by the planned unit development process to restrict them from being located on this property. So current building setbacks under the PUD for a one-story building, that's 50 feet. For a two-story building, that's 100 feet. We are not proposing to change that with the PUD amendments, but we are proposing to change the height limits a little bit. So currently, it's two stories for any land use on the PUD, whether it's a place of worship, senior living, office. But the proposed PUD will still allow two stories for a place of worship, but anything else that gets developed, there will be limited to one story in height, not to exceed 30 feet. We went through several rounds of public notification, including all the standard ones, publishing in the newspaper, sending a mail notice to all property owners within 300 feet of this property, posting the on-site public notice sign, sending a courtesy notice to the HOA. The neighborhood here has been very engaged, and I really want to commend them on their good faith efforts to be engaged and to be curious. They've always wanted to learn more about the PUD process, what exactly is a PUD, what's a PUD amendment. And how do we go about that? And then interacting with the developer, the applicant as well. I want to commend them at the same time. Everybody really has been coming to this PUD amendment from a place of curiosity and wanting to learn more. All of our interactions with both sides all the way around have been very peaceful and very cordial. So I applaud everybody for that effort. The applicant themselves, they led three different meetings or opportunities for three different meetings with the neighborhood. We had a city-led neighborhood meeting on April 22nd in our office where city staff met with about 18, I believe it was, residents of the adjacent neighborhood to help walk them through the process and some of the proposals in the PUD. And over time, we have also received 23 emails, written statements from those adjacent neighbors, and those have been attached to the packet. As a result of some of those steps of public outreach, A few changes were made to the PUD before it went to the Planning and Zoning Commission. The first of those was to add a four foot wide pedestrian path on the west side of the property adjacent to the drive aisle. There was also the limitation on the number of fuel pumps and then increased standards for the compatibility buffer. So getting into some of the details of those, right here at the intersection of Sendero Springs Drive and RM 1431 to the north, this is a private drive aisle. It is not a public city street. You can kind of see this purple. or pink line right through here representing the property boundaries between the CVS to the west and the subject property to the east over here. So this is a private drive, and because of that, it does not have any sidewalks on either side of it. The developer has agreed to allow a provision in the PUD for them to build a four-foot-wide pedestrian path along the east side of this private drive. They might need to do a little bit of work around some of the monarch trees that are out here, as well as the karst features, the karst buffers. But there will be a pedestrian path along the eastern side all the way up to the neighborhood up here. Regarding compatibility, so the base code or the regular code of ordinances that we apply to any time there is a commercial use developed next to a single family use, that developer of the commercial use has to install a six foot tall wall, either made of masonry or fence creeds, on the property line between the commercial property and the residential property. In this case, we're actually going to require the developer to conduct a site elevation study, which they have kind of already begun the process of, to help ensure that the location of that wall actually provides the most possible screening between the commercial use and the residential use. So if they were to place it simply along the northern property line between the commercial properties and the residential properties, they would have to remove a lot of trees to do that, but also it's not guaranteed that that would actually provide the most screening due to grade and elevation change on the site. For some people, They might be able to see pretty easily over that wall down to the commercial properties, but a site elevation study helps us identify where those grade changes occur on the property and where a fence can be ideally placed. So here's a little bit of the results of what they've come to so far. This dashed and dot line right here represents a preliminary location for where that wall would be. It would have to be at least six feet in height. and true masonry to match some of the existing compatibility walls behind the CVS and other properties to the west. These teardrop shaded features represent karst features and the buffers around those karst features. So a karst feature is either a cave, which is connected to other caves in the region, or just a void in the ground, which is basically a cave that doesn't go anywhere. So these are protected environmental features that cannot be disturbed by construction. We don't have anything speaking to this in the PUD because RM 1431 is a TxDOT roadway. The city has no jurisdiction or authority over it, but it's still worth acknowledging some of the transportation conditions out here currently. So as I mentioned before, this private drive along the west side of the property is not a city street. It is the responsibility of the private property owners to maintain that drive. Leading up until very recently, the developer was working with the neighborhood to try and go through a lot of those easement documents to figure out exactly who is responsible for maintenance of that. I think the residents, many of them were worried that it would fall entirely on the HOA. And with the increase in traffic generated by the commercial land uses, that was going to be a bit of a nightmare. But I think we actually have a bit of a resolution there. And so I'll let the applicant in their presentation after mine kind of fill in some of the details there. TxDOT, however, will require the developer to build a right turn deceleration lane for westbound traffic turning into the property here. And more than likely, they're only going to get one dedicated driveway on this stretch of RM 1431 as well. There's yet to be determined to be a need for a dedicated right turn lane at the intersection over here where there currently is a stoplight. Last month, the Planning and Zoning Commission unanimously recommended approval of Amendment Number 7 to the PUD. We had 10 public speakers there raise concerns regarding the compatibility of the land uses, commercial versus residential, signal timing at the intersection of 1431 and the private drive. And I will note that there has been some movement on that because the residents, they have been engaged with TxDOT, and TxDOT has been responsive to their requests. So TxDOT is actually actively studying the signal timing for the stoplights out here, not just this one, but as you go further west as well. So they'll be conducting some analysis over that over the next couple of months to see if and how that signal timing needs to change to improve traffic flow for residents who are coming out of this, residents and patrons of the commercial businesses who will be coming out of this property at the stoplight there. And with that, staff recommends approval, and the developer does have a presentation as well.

Before you return over them, I wasn't here Tuesday, and so I apologize for that. And you may have mentioned when I had to step out, what is the setback requirement normally in a kind of a similar situation? Because we have a lot of these all across Round Rock. I mean, there are neighborhoods... They're neighborhood retail. It's not destination retail. And a lot of times, I know in my older neighborhood that there was several stuff that we could go do and not have to go too far around to do it. But what is the normal setback and what is the setback on this?

The setback for this one would be 50 feet for a one-story building or 100 feet for a two-story building. But under the PUD amendment, the only two-story building that could be developed here is a church or other place of worship. Everything else that gets developed, whether it's office or daycare or commercial, would have to be a one-story building. And under the normal code, it really depends on the land use or the zoning district. But it could be a minimum of 40 feet if they use a masonry wall or 50 feet if they use a fencecrete fence for that compatibility fence. For other zoning districts, it could be increased even more if it's a more intense zoning district like the industrial one.

Okay. And so the setback here would be 100 feet for any of the one-story? Is that what you said?

50 feet for one story, 100 feet for two-story. Okay. Sorry.

So in essence, most of the stuff along this way is a 50-foot setback.

Correct. And I will kind of go back to this slide right here, which already shows we have a lot of features in the way, both natural and manmade, that already sort of serve as a setback or a requirement for a setback. So the green line right here is a city wastewater main. The blue line is drainage. There's an open channel or drainage swale back there. There are a lot of trees as well, and there's a drainage easement that covers that drainage as well. And so much of the rear portion of the property is already undevelopable or could not have a building on it because of that infrastructure. And with all the trees as well, we have a little bit of a built-in setback, but we've gone above and beyond that, especially for the two-story buildings with the PUD.

Okay. Mayor Pro Tem.

Riley, I have two questions. The first one, I know that you had the hours of operation for animal facilities. Are there any other limits to hours of operation for any of the other potential uses?

Not for other uses, no.

Okay. And then there will be developer property between the masonry wall and the back fence of the neighborhood, correct?

Correct.

And the developer will still need to maintain...

Correct.

That area. OK, thank you.

Council Member Tuggy.

In reference to the private road here, trying to discover who's going to be responsible for that, at the end of that private road heading towards the subdivision, on the left-hand side, is that also a private road?

Yeah, so back here is a drive aisle. We would consider it really just a drive aisle leading from this one right here to the west towards the next street. It runs back behind and provides cross-access connectivity between all those businesses on the rear, as well as an opportunity for people to turn right here at this intersection and take this back and then use that as a cut through.

So are they going to make a road, a small road to the right of that? Do we know?

There probably won't be a need for that. I'm sure that they will have their own cross-access between their different commercial businesses there, but really that's on them to kind of lay it out and figure out how that's going to work. You really do want that cross-access connectivity in commercial developments like this so that everybody can come in from one point or from two points and navigate through different businesses to reach the one that they're going to instead of trying to allow or force each individual business to have its own driveway at the street.

Okay. Now back to the private road again. as it cuts to the left. I'm assuming no one knows who maintains that road either.

That would be a better question for the developer. I know maintenance is shared in some form or fashion by some kind of formula, but I don't have the details on that.

I'm assuming if they can find out who takes care of that, they'll find out what the other private property, private road would be. Thank you.

Any other questions over? Council Member Flores?

Brad, just given that the fact that a place of worship is still a possible use, is that restricted to a particular part of the bigger tract, or is it just, or could it be anywhere as long as it's 100 feet?

It could be anywhere across this entire property. However, we do know for a fact that much of this easternmost parcel over here is inundated by floodplains. So, you know, for the sake of the argument, really much of this is off limits to development over here.

And then I had a question on the private drive as well. I know there was mention of a four-foot sidewalk being built, or that was discussed and come to terms with. There's no requirement for lighting, is there, on that?

There is not. Okay.

All right. Thank you. Council Member Lee.

The private drive is also currently used for the school buses for that neighborhood back there. I think on Tuesday you mentioned that in addition to the four-foot sidewalk that there might be an area where the kids could wait for the school buses.

I wouldn't necessarily say in addition. The four-foot sidewalk along the eastern side of this private drive actually kind of gives them an improved or a paved or other space off of the road to wait so that they don't have to wait in the road for the school bus.

Okay. Thank you. So where do they wait now?

I believe, and the residents can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the kind of weight just in the general area of this somewhat circular drive right before the gates.

Okay. And then I think the Mayor Pro Tem asked, and again, I'm sorry I wasn't here. With regards to animal facilities, what's the requirement?

So down here, dog daycare, kennel grooming, training facilities, everything has to be inside. So no outdoor kennels, no outdoor, you know, kenneling of animals. We limit the hours of animal drop off and then also limiting the overall size of that facility. Because even if everything is done inside, barking dogs are pretty loud and you can still sometimes hear them outside. So we do want to keep that on the smaller side.

Okay, so they couldn't put, you know, because I know over in my neighborhood they, you know, put an emergency, 24-hour emergency vet where, and, you know, that side of town used it immensely because they'd have to come all the way over across 35 to take their, you know, their animals. So I'm assuming that prohibits that type of facility here in case someone doesn't want to be. Correct.

That would have a different land use classification of, you know, small animal vet clinic or animal hospital.

So that's not allowed?

Correct.

Okay. And then tell me what the auto service facilities are?

Your basic oil change facilities, you know, typically two, three, or four bays with a roll-up garage doors. But we have, because of that and because typically they can be noisy with all the activity going on inside, we have the increased setback for that particular land use.

Okay. Any other questions before the developer comes up? All right. Come on up Amanda.

Hi, good evening, Mayor and Council. God bless you. I'm Amanda Swore with Drinner Group. Thank you for the opportunity to be here. I'll let my presentation pull up. It's the bottom left one. I also do have Adam Simmel with Endeavor Real Estate Group, who's the developer of this project here. If there's anything I can't answer, he would be glad to. Staff did such a great job. I can skip through some of the beginning of these. I think this picture is worth a thousand words. The staff talks about there's a lot of constraints on the site. So what we are proposing on this property is a neighborhood retail center. This is not going to be a destination retail center. This is retail that serves the people that live here, that live in the area. They're coming by. They need to stop somewhere on their way to work, on their way home from work, grab a grab a dinner on their way. What you'll see, as staff mentioned, the east side of the property is mostly inundated by floodplain. There is a natural drainage way along the north side of this property against the residences, which really came into play. I'll talk about that a little bit more as we talk about where the fence and the screening area is. And then there's the three CEF buffers that are on the property, as well as the wastewater line. So what is developable is really the area outside of that. I'm going to talk on this one for a long time because there's a lot of pieces to talk through. One of the big pieces of conversation saw when I watched packet briefing on Tuesday was the question about trees. So what is in green is a tree survey. A tree survey was done in May of this year. There are four monarch trees on property. Two of them are on the north side of this, which is in the buffer area that we're not going to touch. One is in the floodplain. The fourth is what you see along the private drive in yellow. So we are not requesting any modifications to the monarch tree ordinance. We are fully compliant with it. And as you can see really did work this property to avoid the large number of trees that are there the Area in red is as Bradley showed it in black and white This is where we anticipate that the wall location will be we did meet with some of the neighbors on site one of the very first things that we heard was Please don't put this wall right on the north of the property. There's a drainage way. There's a lot of topography There's a lot of trees and we said that's that's Great. We're happy to move it. Where do we do that? And so this, as staff said, we will have to do a topography study. But our preliminary review of the site, this is where we'll provide the most screening and protection from the existing residents as you look south to our property. The third piece I want to talk to on this slide is access. So we will have two primary points of access. We don't think that we will get more than one on 1431. We have asked. We've been told no. So we will have our primary point of access on 1431. TxDOT controls that. Ultimately, at the time of site plan, they'll tell us, but that's what we anticipate. The second point of access will be on the private road. That maintenance of the private road was probably the second topic that was brought up outside of the location of the fence, and we've spent a lot of time working with the HOA and the Board of Directors. I do want to commend them. They put in a lot of time and effort, and it has really been some beneficial conversations. Where things are today with the documents that we've gone through, we know that there is a minimum of 60% maintenance requirement for the commercial users. both existing and proposed. At this point in time, the HOA has been conducting full maintenance of that. So we know at a minimum that the retail, both existing and proposed, is required to conduct 60% of the maintenance. We have committed to continue to working they think there might be some additional documents that require higher than that. If that's the case, we are 100% committed to the obligations that are there, but we know at a minimum 60% is required for the retail, and today the HOA has been conducting 100% of the maintenance on that road. The setbacks I also think are really important. This is a long property. So while the one story setback is 50 feet, what you heard staff say is that a lot of our other uses have a 200 foot setback. The shops that are along the frontage between 300 and 400 feet from the residents that are there. Again, we are anticipating that this is neighborhood serving, so likely a daycare, a medical office potentially, some restaurant uses in the area. Oh, I talked about this one. This was also brought up very early by the residents that live there from a safety concern on the ability to get along as there are no sidewalks. What you can see on the left of this how we anticipate this will go through, we do want to be able to incorporate that monarch tree to be able to let pedestrians get there for the shade. And there are, again, the cars features, et cetera. What you'll see on the north side of this is we did pull the, or anticipating to pull the trail back away from where the school bus stop is so that there's some additional space that the sidewalks is not right on the edge of the road so that students can sit on the sidewalk, step back a little bit and have some space to, to gather, whether that's one student or 10 students or however that happens. And with that, we respectfully request your approval. I am here to answer any questions. And I really appreciate your time.

Any questions for Amanda? Mayor Pro Tem.

Amanda, what is the difference between a water quality pond and a detention pond? They look like they are budding up together. Right. Keep going towards the back to the end of the presentation. Right there. You've got the detention pond and then you've got... One holds it, one treats it. Okay, so it'll be treated there.

And those detention facilities were put in place with the original development. So the water quality and the detention features are already in place.

Okay, thank you.

Any other? Council Member Montgomery?

So the karst areas, will those remain as they are, or will they be landscaped something differently?

We can't touch them.

Okay.

Yes, ma'am.

Any other questions on that? On the maintenance of the private road, can you go back to the private road picture just Or is it on here? Oh, yeah. So if we're talking about the neighborhood to the north, you know, and it's the neighborhood has been the ones that's been taking care of the maintenance, does that not include, I think that's a Walgreens right there? I mean, does Walgreens not have to pay a portion of

What we're getting to the bottom of is that they should have been. It just hadn't been, the HOA hadn't been assessing that to them is what is kind of surfacing as we've been going through this.

Any other questions?

And if I misspoke on that, please let the HOA correct me.

Yeah, they will if it's not correct.

I was just curious, on the karst, are you required to enclose those with a fence or wrought iron fence or something? No, sir. And then I was just curious, that CVS, does that predate the development, the condos, or does the condos there first?

Again, I will let someone correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding, do you want to talk about it? We'll let you go for it. Even better.

Condos were there first before any of the commercial development along the west side over here. The CVS was just a handful of years ago. I want to say that most of the condos were 10 to 14 years ago.

Thank you.

Which is why they put the road in.

Any other questions on that? Is there only on that pad site a CVS? Or if you keep going west, is there

I have a better picture somewhere. If you keep going west, there's a CVS, there's a car wash, there's a quick trip, there's a coffee shop.

Other retail development. Yes, sir. Okay.

Yeah, there's a multi-tenant. Just to the west of the car wash right here, there's a multi-tenant retail building over there as well as some, I think it's, I'm not sure if it's office condos or a two-story office building going in there behind that. And then there's a quick trip at the other corner over here.

Okay. And that's all in our city limits along that 1431 aspect? All right.

Any other questions?

All right. This is a public hearing, so I'll open up the public hearing on I-3. When I call your name, please come down and state your name and address for the record. Laura Lynn or Flynn? Flynn. All right. Yeah. I thought it looked like an L, but there was another mark by it, so I didn't know.

Excuse me, sir?

I said it looked like a L, but then I looked at it, and there's another mark, so I wanted to make sure. So I apologize for that.

As I get older, my handwriting gets worse.

Oh, no. You're good.

Hi. I'm Laura Flynn, and I live at 3451 Mayfield Ranch Boulevard, Round Rock, which is in the preserve at Mayfield Ranch. So thanks for giving me the opportunity to speak today regarding the proposed development that will be right next to my community. I have concerns about the increase in traffic that that proposed development of this land would bring to the area. It's already very difficult getting in and out of our community because there's just that private road. It's just two lanes that connects our community to 1431. There is a traffic light at the intersection of 1431 and the private drive. And only three or four cars are able to make it through the light. And that's only if each of the drivers ahead of you aren't on their phone or aren't distracted by anything. It's very, very difficult. And I know I have heard that TxDOT is looking into this, but it's difficult now. I don't know what changes will be made. When this development goes in, I can only imagine it will be pretty impossible or almost impossible to get in and out of our community. Concerning the type of businesses, I feel that the businesses that should be approved should only be the type of businesses that would bring in less traffic. So let's start with that problem, the amount of traffic. such as office, business offices, retail shops, medical offices, and eat-in restaurants. To me, those type of businesses would create much less traffic during the day. People are not going to be going with a drive-thru, going in and out every five minutes, or with a gas station, or with a gym. So I just think that in order to preserve the safety and manageable access to our community, certain businesses should be restricted from this development, the types of businesses that have a high turnover in traffic during the day. That's it. Thank you.

Anybody have any questions for Ms. Flynn?

I just had one question. Because I go to church at Westside, so I drive by this all the time. Out of that neighborhood, is there a road that's behind that existing commercial that you can go down? Or is that the only way in and out to 1431?

There is the private road from 1431 going north into our community. Then if you were to approach our community from 1431, you can make a left. onto our private road, and that would lead you out to Mayfield Ranch. Okay.

So it is open, but it's private, and it's yours? Yes. Okay. I was just wanting to understand. Thank you.

Okay. Yeah, Mayor Pro Tem.

Mine's actually for Bradley. Can you go a little bit farther to the site plan? I just wanted to see.

Oh, sorry. No, you're good. But stay right there. Stay right there just in case.

Okay, so there's not an entrance and exit to this development on that private drive?

There is right here, yes.

Okay, right there. All right, so there is one, and then we're on 1431. Okay. And then is a daycare okay?

Personally, for me, yes, because I feel with a daycare, Certain times. Parents are dropping off in the morning, and then parents are coming back in the late afternoon.

Sure.

So that would not be traffic in and out all day. OK. Perfect. Like a drive-thru or a gas station. Yeah. Or even a gym.

Totally get it. Totally get it. Thank you. Thank you, Bradley.

And the PUD amendment actually reduces the maximum square footage or the maximum size that a daycare could be because under the current PUD, it could be up to 20,000 square feet. Under the proposed amendment, that limit is brought down to 15,000 square feet. What's shown here on this exhibit is only 10,000. Okay.

So not a high density, large.

It's the standard one that you would see built in most places around town.

Thank you.

And I'm sure there's a daycare center across 1431 already. So I don't know if there's going to be much competition for that. Sure.

Council Member Montgomery.

Regarding the traffic, I'm just curious. How many dwellings are there in your neighborhood that use that private drive to access 1430?

There are 156, I think, units in the development. And we're listed as a condominium regime. But we are not in an attached building. They are individual homes.

OK.

Thank you.

Any, Council Member Fleming?

Brad, you had mentioned that there was some sort of discussion around the private drive, and I think Amanda was going to talk about it. Did I miss it, or is there something to update on the private drive?

That was the maintenance agreement. They were trying to get to the bottom of it. The HOA has been taking the full burden of the cost of maintaining that driveway, but I think looking back through the historical easement documents that had been dedicated to create The easement over this drive is that the commercial tenants or the commercial businesses along both sides of the private drive should be responsible for 60% of that maintenance, and the HOA for the homeowners should only be 40%.

Okay, thank you. Any other questions? Is the private drive, I mean, is the private drive, is there enough room, let me put it that way, if you added another smaller lane on each side, or is it just not really...

I think on the east side, you're pinched by the buffer here for that CARST feature or CEF, critical environmental feature, so it couldn't be expanded in that direction. And then on the west side, you've got some infrastructure for CVS, some of their parking and everything, plus some of their drainage up here as well. So it's really restricted.

Okay. Any other questions? Thank you for coming and speaking, and your accent's way cooler than mine. Thanks. All right. David Duhan.

Mayor Morgan, council members, good evening. I prefer brand Dujon. So brand Dujon, I've lived in Round Rock for 19 years. In the past seven, I've been in the preserve at Mayfield Ranch at 3451 Mayfield Ranch Boulevard, number 205. I'm currently serving on the board at the preserve at Mayfield Ranch, and I'm here to voice our community's concerns with the proposed development. We recognize the city planning department's efforts to include design standards, buffering, and a list of prohibited uses in the proposed PUD amendment. Our goal is to ensure that what is ultimately built is truly compatible with the surrounding residential community for the long term. At its core, the rezoning request represents a significant shift from an office use which is relatively low impact and predictable to a broad commercial designation under C1A. While the PUD includes some added restrictions, it still allows for a wide range of uses that can materially affect our community. I wanted to briefly highlight three areas of concern. Traffic and intensity of use. The plan allows multiple drive-through uses, which are among the highest trip generating commercial uses. Additionally, one of the planned access points connects the private road located on the easement between our community, CVS, and the new development. This road is not maintained by the city or state, and the HOA is partially financially responsible for its maintenance and upkeep. However, there are no binding maintenance commitments included in the PUD. Given the proximity to established neighborhoods, we believe this deserves closer consideration as our community will bear the cost of increased traffic, wear, and long-term maintenance. Therefore, we respectfully request the City Council not approve this PUD amendment until clear responsibility for the maintenance costs can be determined. The second point is the allowance of the fuel station. Even with setbacks, this type of use introduces extended hours of operation, increased light pollution 24-7, and long-term compatibility concerns. From a neighborhood's perspective, this is one of the most impactful uses that could be placed on a site. Lastly, our concern. The safety of our children is a major concern. Currently, Round Rock ISD buses cannot enter our neighborhood, necessitating that students be picked up on the private road. This situation raises significant safety concerns, particularly given the anticipated increase in traffic from the proposed development. Was speaking with Amanda earlier and to miss filming your point I think they have added a small adjustment for the bus stop at the end of that private road currently our Kids are getting picked up on the northeast corner behind CVS So they're waiting on that grassy area and that's where they get picked up. I So I know that the developer is already making accommodations to possibly build a bus stop lane there for us. I know our board president has also reached out to Round Rock ISD to see if they could conduct some type of survey of the area for pickup of students. So I think that if they can incorporate a bus stop as part of the site plan, this allowance would not only enhance the safety of our children, but also foster a more community-oriented environment. With that in mind, on behalf of the PMR community, Preserve at Mayfield Ranch community, I ask that City Council not approve this amendment in its current form and that Planning and Zoning Commission make these necessary adjustments to better align the development with the needs and safety of our community. You guys had a couple of questions that I'd like to try to address.

Go ahead.

Mr. Ortega, you asked about the property line. That road that runs, the private drive that runs from 1431 into our subdivision, that is our main entrance. That's our main entry gate. We do have a gate on the east-west road, but that's our backup gate. It's supposed to be our exit gate. And not everybody in the community has access to enter through that gate. The property line, you can see it here in this. I don't know if this is still. No, it's not up on the screen. But in this one on the north-south road, our property line ends right after our gate. So it stops right there at the call box for our gate. On the east-west property line, our property runs right through the middle of that road. So yeah, right here, this is basically our property line. And it kind of runs right through the middle of that road. Thankfully, we haven't had any maintenance costs that I'm aware of on the road. I've only been on the board since this December. I know we have a couple board members here that served previously. They may be aware of maintenance costs that we've had to take care of in the past. But the amendment we found when the easement was granted did initially say that the future developer and the owner of CVS were responsible for 60% of the cost. However, we were responsible for maintaining that budget. So yearly, we were supposed to submit a budget to them for the upcoming year, and then they would reimburse us for those expenses in the following year. We haven't done that that I'm aware of today. But again, we haven't had any major expenses at this point. And then I think... I just wanted to address a couple of concerns here, but it looks like I got them all. I got the property line, the maintenance cost, and then the bus stop. So yeah, just again, on behalf of the community, we're opposed to development. We'd like for some accommodations to be made to the amendment before it's approved.

Yeah, Brian, I got one question. You said that there's an entrant or a It's an exit going out of the neighborhood. I'm assuming that goes to Mayfield Ranch.

So our community, we have six homes that are outside of our gates. So that road that runs east-west on the very far end of that is also the entrance to the six homes that are outside of our gate. And then there's an entrance, there's a gate there as well. But I know that that gate is primarily used for exiting.

Exits. And any reason why it's not allowed for entrances?

I mean, is it just because of the six homes? It's been the gate systems, just a hodgepodge of systems that have been kind of snapped together over the years. So just some of our members don't have FOBs that work on the back gate. So we're looking at getting a new system in at the gate so people can get in and out of that gate as well. But that's why it's mostly use of six.

OK. And then on the maintenance and use agreement, so I'm assuming that's in your covenants?

It wasn't in the covenant. I just saw it in when the easement was granted across that land. It was in the amendment for the easement.

OK. So you don't know, is that a PUD on where CVS is, Bradley?

Yes, everything in this area, including the Preserve at Mayfield Ranch condos and all the commercial tracks along the frontage of 1431 are part of the same PUD.

Okay.

But that's, again, just a zoning document.

But that PUD didn't address the...

The PUD did not establish the easement or require the easement. That was just amongst the, I guess, the original conveying property owner while creating the PUD and setting up development on the tracks.

But it also doesn't create the percentage use that, you know, you're responsible according to such and such document. Correct. 60%.

Correct.

Okay.

Yeah, and like that was what we found in the most recent easement amendment that we were party to. I think we think there is another easement in the future that we weren't a party to because it was just between CVS and the owners of the land currently. So we've reached out to our legal team. We have them looking into that. But that's what Amanda was referencing when she said we're still kind of working through the responsibility of that.

Any other questions for Brian? Council Member Flores?

Yeah, so appreciate you being here. I'm a little confused. So the maintenance agreement exists or does not exist?

So there was one of the easement amendments said that we were responsible for 40%, CVS and the other landowners responsible for 60.

And let me interrupt you briefly. Is that only for Sendero Springs Drive or does that include all the private drive? All the private drive. Okay. All right. Thank you. Go on.

Well, I was just going to say, but then we just think that there's another amendment in the future that supersedes that, but it didn't turn up when we researched it because we're not a party to that. It was just between CVS and the new landowner.

CVS specifically?

Yes.

And none of the other businesses?

There were four entities listed on it. I don't know who the other three were.

Okay. And I'm just trying to understand. But to date, I mean, maybe you just found out about it, so you've never actually asked or billed CVS for any of the, because you haven't had to incur anything at the moment. Correct. Okay. So I appreciate that. And then did I hear, Amanda, did I hear you say that you were in discussions with a maintenance agreement for this private drive, or what did I hear about that?

We've just acknowledged that I think we're all on the same page that what we have recorded on our property says 60%, but we acknowledge that they're still looking, and if there is something that has a larger obligation, we'll abide by that obligation, but we haven't been able to find anything in our title commitment that has anything larger than 60%, but they are working with their attorneys, and we said, great, if you find something, let us know, and we're happy to continue working with you.

Okay, thank you for the clarification. And then just to your other comment about the school kids and the impact perhaps to the kids. Are they on a regular basis walking that private drive out to 1431? Is that what's happening?

No, they're not. Well, not for bus pickup, no. Right. Just for, yes, for, you know, kids.

So the bus pickup, perhaps, if I'm thinking through correctly, is not necessarily impacted because the drive into the proposed development comes in sooner than the bus stop. So there should never really be...

interaction between this the kids waiting for the bus versus any use of the development is that am I thinking that through correctly we have just a lot of traffic that uses that as a cut through and I think that the increased traffic in the this new development will obviously cause an increase in that and that's where the kids are just waiting on that corner so yes cars do come around the kids have to walk and cross the private jive today to wait on the corner for the bus

And my last question, I appreciate you being here. Am I able to get to, from Mayfield Ranch Boulevard, am I able to get to the gate at Sendero Springs? Can anybody get to that gate? So that's, it's not necessarily gated, but anybody could access it.

Did you say can anybody get to the gate or get there?

Well, I guess can anybody drive on that private road to the back?

Yes.

Yeah. And they can access it via Mayfield Ranch Boulevard, right?

That's where they're cutting through.

Right. Okay.

There's not a back exit to our community. It's this private drive here that cuts northwest, and then it hits Mayfield over there.

Okay. Thank you. Council Member Fleming.

So with their proposed bus stop that they're going to create on the other side of the street, does that resolve the problem as best as it can?

Because they're not crossing the street. It definitely helps. Yes, it helps.

OK. I think that was it. I'm sorry.

Yeah, no, you're good. I know the other question. Go ahead.

You're good. And then I guess I was confused because you were saying that there's a 60-40 document in case we can find one that's better. So what's the ask for us to wait if you know what the rules are?

I wanted to ask that you wait to approve it until we just clarify what our responsibility is.

Okay.

I just want to make sure I understood. It's just a big concern of our community. So I wanted to just ask that we consider that before we approve the rezoning.

Okay. Thank you. Any more questions over here?

So I guess I'm a little confused. On the road that's the cut through, I mean, it seems like the only people that would be cutting through is coming out of your neighborhood.

They're coming from the larger Mayfield Ranch. Oh, they're coming through. They're using that to avoid the left-hand turn on the Sundari.

Oh, and then they're coming down to, that's why the backup on the private road when they're trying to get out on 1431.

Correct.

How does the, if it's a private road, I don't guess there's any way you can put it. All right. Sorry about that. I kept going, well, how's people cutting? I mean, where are they going?

Yeah.

You know?

We get a lot of cut through coming from Mayfield to go into like CBS.

That makes sense now. I mean, I totally understand it. Amanda, is this, or Bradley, is there anything in the PUD about, Kind of the, you know, not maybe a percentage, but just, you know, as Brian was asking about the, you know, to have it there to make sure that, you know, if by some chance Endeavor sold this to the next person, that it goes with it?

No, sir. There's nothing in the PUD, but the 60% document is a recorded document on our title.

Oh, okay. So it's on the title? Yes, sir. Okay. All right. And then... On the maintenance, have y'all done any, I mean, are you required to do the maintenance of the roads inside your?

Yes.

That's what I thought. And have y'all had anything done in 12 years?

We've resurfaced them.

Resurfaced?

Resurfaced and repainted.

Good.

All right. Yeah. So the light at Mayfield and 1431, that is city-owned? No.

No, 1431 is a TxDOT roadway, so they have jurisdiction over all the stoplights in this stretch of the road.

Okay, I was just trying to figure out why it behooved them to cut through to the other street. Aren't the lights both the same?

I think the residents can correct me if I'm wrong, but if the light over here backs up for people who are wanting to drive left out of Mayfield Ranch, they're going to come behind and use this one.

I mean, you know, that's the... That's the whole deal with traffic, right? I mean, Gary Hutter used to always say that everybody's going to find the easiest way to get through and around, and we probably all do it at some point, you know. And so it does make sense when that light's backing up at Mayfield Ranch and 1431 that I see the cut-through deal now. All right. Any other questions? All right. Joy Lynn Dumas. I think that's.

Hi, I'm Joy Dumas. I live at 3451 Mayfield Ranch Boulevard, unit 351. And hopefully I'm going to share some new information with you as well. I'm an 11-year owner at the Preserve at Mayfield Ranch, which is a separate development from Mayfield Ranch. We are a gated condominium association made up of 156 detached home condominiums with narrow private streets and no sidewalks in our community. I spoke at the May 6th Planning Commission and submitted my written comments. However, those comments are not included in Attachment 4 as part of the public comments provided to you on the Legistar tracking website for tonight's meeting. Only the emails from like April were provided. So I'm going to submit it again today along with supporting documentation for what I'm sharing tonight. My first concern is regarding PUD 23 and its requirements, which were created by city ordinance in December 1995. Upon searching the legislature website, I learned that PUD 23 required 100% native stone. However, when the church was requesting the zoning change in 2018, their Exhibit D designed standards for place of worship, they requested a 25% native stone build, which was approved. A multi-story stone building would have been rather monstrous for that site and costly for a church. But D5 design standards for all uses other than place of worship were left intact as 100% native stone as originally required. Now that the church's design is no longer applicable and the zoning is being changed, this developer is asking for only 75% natural stone and not the original 100%. This is not right. This PUD was created with requirements that need to be honored. My HOA should not have to identify and raise awareness that enforcement of the original ordinance is at risk. The Planning Commission should have identified this when they did a look back at the original requirements so that the interests of the entire PUD are protected. When I say entire PUD, I'm talking about the Quick Mart, all the way over to CVS, and then this is being purchased. All of that is under these guidelines when the PUD was created.

The Planning Commission...

The City Council's previously approved standards should be adhered to. All the buildings in PUD 23, which are to the west and left of the private road, appear to have complied. This is a very visible and heavily traveled section of 1431 with neighborhoods that have benefited from increasing property values and development that is highly desirable. It matters what building materials are used directly in front of our little community to ensure that it does not deteriorate into a strip center appearance. Additionally, the church did a traffic impact analysis, a TIA for land use. This developer did not. Please require that the developer's design standards are increased to 100% native stone for conformity and consistency. Please task your planning commission with comparing the developer's exhibit D5 plans to the previously approved standards that the rest of PUD 23 has complied with to ensure consistency for Round Rock. And as vital information for traffic planning, please require this developer to do a traffic impact analysis sooner than later before your final vote. I still have more. Secondly, at the May 6th Planning Commission meeting, I stated that the HOA would be financially harmed with the added heavy traffic on the private road and asked that Round Rock take over the road. However, after researching the previous year's agendas and videos, I found a video from January 10th of 2018 Planning Commission whereby the church representative, it was Doug James, who was acting as the developer as well, you might recognize that name, he responded to a Planning Commission member's question about the private road because the city of Round Rock employee really didn't give a clear answer. So Doug James came to the microphone. And he said, the church representative said that the church and CVS will own the private road. And that's the one leading from 1431 to our gate. In my opinion, the developer should reach out to the church and leave our HOA out of this. So I don't know what has been shared tonight. I don't have knowledge of that about the 60-40. But I know of Doug James, and he is a very intelligent person. And so he must have had, since he was in the process of buying the church property, I'm sure he had some accurate information that the Drenner Group could locate and reach out and talk to him about that. Third, the decomposed granite proposed by the developer for a sloped path to the 1431 road crosswalk is inappropriate and unsafe. What I'm talking about is there's a crosswalk currently across 1431 that then leads into the private road. You can walk directly across 1431 and go to our gates. So they're wanting to put in granite Granite can move under your feet and cause a slide when a bicycle breaks. Granite would not hold up with the volume of walkers and cyclists, many that are youth, who frequent the Quick Trip and the Sendara Basketball Court. The Sendara Basketball Court is across 1431. So it's a constant flow of kids on this private road in addition to streets. And we're talking about a two-lane narrow road. There's no curbs on it. I don't think there's curbs. Maybe there are. I think there are curbs. Okay. All while crossing 1431. Planned fast food establishments will also increase this foot bicycle traffic. Please require the installation of concrete, which is preferred for its permanence and safety, and will blend in with the existing PUD development sidewalks. The whole other side of this PUD, the CVS, all of them, there's sidewalks over there that are concrete. There's no granite. Okay, then I have a couple just, okay. Lastly, please consider increasing the traffic lanes from two to three lanes for exiting onto 1431 to expedite the increased traffic flow. Please review the two-lane narrow road behind the west half of PUD 23 to increase safety for drivers, walkers, and cyclists. That's the strip of road which is narrow. I mean, you have to go slow. It's not like it's just a regular road. I mean, you can't have a speed limit on this thing. And that's the road that I'm talking about that runs along our fence there. Round Rock's transportation work gets recognized for creative problem solving in tight spaces, multimodal design like cars plus bikes plus pedestrians, and collaboration like city plus county plus TxDOT. The city wins awards for transportation projects considered innovative like the Logan Street Connection Project, which was 2022 APWA Project of the Year. Make this another innovative project that is well received of all. by all, please do the right thing to continue to keep Round Rock safe. I have just a couple of random comments. Is it okay? Am I taking too much time? I'll wrap it up right here. Okay. Brad stated that this was a major intersection. It's currently not, but it will be because it's only like it's one lane and one lane. It's not like the Mayfield Ranch intersection. intersection or another intersection. So Brad, he said that the emails were attached to the packet. Those emails were largely from April. So what I submitted at the May 6th Planning Commission meeting is not in your packet. Brad has given the impression, and I'm sorry to pick on you, Brad has given the impression that, along with the slides, that everything's okay, but it's not. And the drawing and the photos for this area make this land look huge. It is very small. It's not like a big green belt and we're sitting under shade trees. It's nothing like that. It is pulsing right now. I'm sorry, I'm still going on. And I would like to see the textile communication that the Drenner Group received that stated that no new lane could be approved. And if there's some way that the city could also support that as well to have some influence because of all this multimodal and all this cross-government collaboration that goes on. We just can't say, well, they said no. We need to see some evidence that it was actually submitted and whether efforts we can do to improve this because it's a safety hazard. So, there's a lot of pulse, the whole, this is, I promise, this is the last thing I'm going to say. Quick trip is just like constant, okay? Then you have the car wash, which, well, first you have the coffee shop, which has the drive-through. You're doing the drive-through around the building. Then you have some dentist office. You have a nail salon that's constantly pulsing throughout the day. Then you have the car wash. And when you come out of the car wash, then you go back into it to vacuum out your car. Then the next... Bay Area is the prescription drive-through from the CVS. So that thing is just like wheels turning throughout the day. And then if we have fast food on the other side, and if it's a Chick-fil-A, we're dead. You know, it's going to be a nightmare over there. And we don't benefit from this. We are not benefiting from any of this. And so that's why at the May 6th meeting I raised a lot of issues about... You know, what if we have to repair this road? And, you know, I mean, it was more, you know, I said it a little better than that. But anyway, so that's all I have.

All right. Well, thank you. Thank you. Bradley? Anyone have any questions? I was just going to ask. Go ahead, Mayor Protean.

So there was one I saw drive-through on your conceptual map. Does it?

There were three. So there's, let's see, let me get back to it here. Pad A right here has a drive-thru, as does Pad B over here. Actually, maybe I was mistaken. And for some reason, I thought that the shops one right here had a drive-thru on the end cap, but that does not appear to be the case. So maybe just two drive-thrus that are at least on this site plan, which has not been submitted to the city for review. So you could still just consider it tentative.

Does the square footage and the size of the area around them dictate like high density, like a Chick-fil-A high density drive-thru versus like a lower density? Or is it just all, because I know you count like car stacking and all that. Are there any kind of differences for those?

We don't differentiate between the type of restaurant that has a drive-thru. It could be a quick service restaurant like a Chick-fil-A. It could be something else that really just has like a pickup window. So the PUD doesn't differentiate between any of those.

And then to her point with these private drives, they're private drives because they're not built to the quality of a city street, correct?

Geometrically, in terms of width and pavement section, yes.

So for the city to... come in and help and maintain, we'd have to then take possession of these streets basically and tear them up and put in, if they could even be engineered for that, because they are pretty narrow, correct? Correct. They take a lot of, yeah, okay.

And because of the existing site constraints out there, we'd probably be taking some of CVS's property and then also just to avoid the critical environmental feature buffer over here, that'd be, yeah, a lot of work, a lot of engineering and money.

That's on the north-south one, but on the east-west one.

So the east-west one over here that runs across to Mayfield Ranch is a similar story. I can't speak to the number or presence of environmental features and trees out there as well, but it's going to be constructed to the same standards that this existing driveway was constructed.

Okay. All right. Thank you.

Any other questions on this side? Go ahead, Council Member Fuller. Yes.

Brad, with a comment about the 100% stone versus 75, are the other existing commercial buildings that have gone up, are they all conforming to the 100% item?

I think most of them are. The QuickTrip might have some fiber cement siding accent walls in some areas, but I think for the most part, most of the other buildings are glass and stone as prescribed in the PUD.

Thank you. Along that question, does, you know, state law came in a couple years ago and really restricted our how we can and what we can do and what we can require developers to do. Is that the situation here that, you know, you're trying to stay within what state law allows?

Even here, I think it's kind of a gray area. Steve might put it a little bit differently if you asked him. So we cannot use zoning to regulate the external finished materials of a residential or commercial structure. PUDs, we try and treat a little bit differently. We sort of see those as a negotiated contract, essentially, in a way almost between the city and the property owner in which they're actually agreeing or opting into these standards. Whether or not that actually would hold up at the state level might remain to be seen, but we try and do the best that we can and get the developers to work with us to create buildings that we believe are attractive and durable.

Yeah, I mean, I think that it's the only way we can try and negotiate any kind of building standards is almost through a PUD. I mean, because if, again, they've been here, you know, throughout the meeting, I mean, state laws, they're going to trump us. And we've tried to work within the guidelines of that state law to require developers to do, you know, maybe not meet all of them, but if you want to be in the city and you want to do this, at least meet, you know, A standard here, B standard, instead of what the lowest standard. Because, you know, quite frankly, in some of the cities across Texas, I've seen things that are built that wouldn't hold up. I mean, they'd blow it. The wind would blow it over. And then the other question is, you know, she brought up the sidewalks on the opposite side. Is that a TxDOT? Is that TxDOT taking care of this?

So a sidewalk will have to be constructed. Unless TxDOT says otherwise, unless they have plans to expand and build their own TxDOT, then the developer will be required to build one along 1431, I think probably within their property just inside the right-of-way there. But since this is a private driveway, essentially, there's not a requirement at the city or at the state level to build a sidewalk along that.

But I think it was more the sidewalk across 1431, if I understood Ms. Dumas correctly. Along 1431, I think she said on the other side, there's sidewalks. So was that the developer that did that along that side? Yes.

So it's kind of hard to see on this aerial, but it is right there, a sidewalk along the frontage of these tracks, starting at the western edge of the dry vial here. And those sidewalks are required to be built by the property owners or the developers as they construct their properties.

So they'll have to do that on the other side? Yes. Okay.

So what was the discussion? I guess I was confused about granite versus concrete. Where is the granite going?

The granite is the requirement in the PUD right now for the developer to use that as the material to build the four-foot pedestrian path on the east side of the private drive aisle here. I believe that the neighbors are advocating for a concrete sidewalk instead of a DG trail with the thinking that the concrete sidewalk, which is a standard city requirement when you're building a sidewalk, is more durable, more sturdy, not prone to washing out as a DG path would be.

Thank you. Do we know, Amanda? Sorry. Why don't you sit right up here? Is that something that the developer would consider? Or is there a reason y'all are wanting to do the granite versus

Our preference is the granite for a character. When you look at the east side of this, you've got more of the cars features. The property will stay more natural. You've got the ability to have more meandering. We will be fully responsible for all maintenance of that feature. So it allows us to have a little bit more flexibility, create something that matches what the character of this will be more along. Again, we're fully responsible for all maintenance. And for the north, south, and then the east, west will be to full sidewalk standards.

Any other question?

Council Member Flores. Question for Brad. With regards to the question or the comment about the TIA, I mean, that is also something that perhaps was required at the original PUD inception, but we have gone away from the TIA to the

Correct. Yeah. Several years ago, the city underwent a shift in policy away from TIAs and instead adopted a roadway impact fee system in which every development has to pay a roadway impact fee to the city based on the size of the building and the type of land use to take into account the variation between intensities. So a quick serve restaurant or drive-thru restaurant generates more turnover of vehicles, and so their roadway impact fee will be higher. a per unit basis the city takes in that money through the building permit process and is required by law to spend it on roadways regional roadways in the area where those developments are so we can take that money at the city level and use it to improve other city streets around here make regional roadway improvements and D so that is kind of a separate and aside from the requirement by text dot or sometimes from the city to build a right turn deceleration lane or to make signal or intersection improvements. So those things individually are separate from the RIF.

Thank you.

Any other questions? All right. Paula Doran.

Hello, everyone.