City Council - Regular Meeting

Thursday, December 11, 2025
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Government Body
City Council
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City Council
Location
Roswell, NM
Meeting Date
December 11, 2025

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170 sections (from 508 segments)

0:00 – 1:570

a STEM competition where students design, build and present a robot and engineering project. Best robotics use advanced metal parts and sensors that and can customize more than robots. VEX can also focus on coding and engineering. There are a lot of tournaments with fast exciting matches that use lots of energy. AI is transforming the world and robots can help solve tasks that require more precision intell intelligence and automation. Our team can Our team can explore AI and support AI can support future industries such as healthcare, logistics, space exploration and environmental journey. We will now uh do have stuff a little bit about us. I'll go first. My name is Ryan and I'm creative creative. I love music and I love robots and I love robots, Legos, just building stuff. I'm technology. I joined the team because I want to be an engineer when I'm old. My name is Jennifer and I joined the club because I want to learn DOS code

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and learn how to fix robotics. I like chatting, reading workouts, playing games and watching and playing Minecraft. Thank you. Hi, my name is Eddie. I am 11 years old. I joined because I want to be like my uncle and want to have fun and learn new things.

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Hi, my name is Hunter and I'm in seventh grade. I joined the robotics team to make friends and have fun. The thing I enjoy the most is the fun night. I enjoy building things and I love robots.

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Mr. I think we have some comments or questions. So that was very good and I love the shirts from business notions too.

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Um first the question is do you guys have a Facebook page where we can follow what you guys are doing? Um, not yet. I'm going to um, well, actually we do, but I haven't put anything on it yet. I've only put the team photo on it. Um, there. So, I would also like to thank um, Xan from Hardware because he's been donating tools as well. And I want to invite um, Mr. Raymond to the front for an award. Students, come up. All of you. you might uh maybe stand up so or so we can get a picture of you so either

3:50 – 4:350

you know just so we can see the kids put a few more kids on the other side there well never mind there you go up Okay. Good enough. Oh, the little one. You're going to have to come over here. Mr. Timothy, right? You can't. If he stands there, I think we can see him if he stands. Yeah. If he stands here, go right back. Terry, you can come up here if you need. You need up here. It's fine. Thank you. Will you mind pull the microphone down

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so it doesn't in the middle of her face? Okay, good.

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Okay. Okay. Now, remember what happens when we smile up here. You don't get any questions from me about boys or girls or anything. So, look up here and smile. Come on. Come on. Cut two. Hank hold out. I know, but they're coming around. All right. Okay. One more question that we um how do kids find out the schools promoting it? No, I haven't talked to the schools yet. Um I don't know if they would be willing to promote it.

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Okay. I think they might them and then I think just really wanted to get a picture with Mayor Timothy as well.

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You guys all did a great job. Thank you.

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Get on this side. Okay. that way. Mr. Mayor, could you smile, please, sir? The questions are less intense when you smile. We're not going to miss you. I know. Just get a little more. Bring the mic down again. There you go. That's great. Okay. Cheese. One, two, three. Cheese. Very good. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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I have a hat. Yeah. Okay. Thank you all for the indulgence and

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Okay. Next we have Oh, we have a This is for Yeah. And this is for Pepper Grill. On behalf of the city of Raleigh, we'd like to express our deepest appreciation and recognition to Peppersville and Bar for 35 years of outstanding service to our community and uh community spirit and dedication. Since opening in the doors in 1990, Peppers has made has been much more than a local restaurant. It's been a gathering place where friendships have blossomed, families celebrated milestone milestones, and the Rosal community has felt felt welcome, value, and at home. For over three decades, Peppards has stood for the best of Rosal, warm hospitality and wavering commitment to quality, and a true love for the people it serves. from family diners uh dinners to graduation celebrations, community events, catering throughout that brought joy joy to countless homes and and workplaces. Peppers has become woven into the traditions and ceremonies of our city. We also thank the staff past and present for their loyalty, hard work and and heart created warmth the warmth atmosphere and generations of guests have come to cherish. Your dedication made Peppers not only successful but truly special. As Cambers prepares to move on to in December 31st, 2025, we honor the legacy it leaves behind. While this chapter ends, the impacts of Becker's barn grill will be continued to be felt through warm memories shared for relation and relations ships built uh and for the community strengthened within its wall. Thank you, Adam, Neil,

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Robert, and your folks, and the entire Peppers family for 35 years of service, friendship, unforgettable moments. Ro, we always be grateful for the joy and the sense of community that have been brought to our city. Uh, thank you, Adam, Neil, Robert, and the entire family for 35 years of service and unforgettable moments. growth will be will be ever for grateful for the joy and community you brought to our city. And so Peppers, that's it's going to be hard to lose them. They're really they're really special and I wish uh I wish that uh they didn't uh leave in the Do you have the deal for Miss Connie? Mayor duties on this a little bit. Help out a little bit.

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No. Yeah, you that' be good. Great. And next we have um Well, that's we have a recognition for Miss Connie Herrell, uh who could not be with us tonight. Uh Chad, if you would read it, please.

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Yes, sir. Mayor Jennings, members of the council, uh this is a city of Rozal recognition appreciation for outstanding civic contributions. Whereas on October 19th, 2024, the city of Roswell was struck by a devastating flood that profoundly impacted our community, its residents, and its historic treasures. And whereas in the wake of this disaster, the resilience and strength of our community were exemplified by individuals who rose to the occasion to support their neighbors. And whereas Miss Connie Harold Stone has consistently demonstrated a deep commitment to the civic and cultural enrichment of Roswell through her unwavering support of the arts and community initiatives. Whereas in this critical moment of need, Miss Harold Stone representing First National Tower LTV generously volunteer volunteered her facility space to house the museum staff as well as invaluable historic artifacts and works of art. And whereas her selfless contribution provided vital assistance for an entire year, allowing the museum to move forward with its inventory and restoration operations to pres preserve the heritage of our beloved city. And whereas Miss Harold Stone's actions exemplify the spirit of community service, her profound dedication to ensuring that Roswell's history and culture remain alive and accessible for future generations. Now and therefore, the city of Roswell proudly recognizes Miss Connie Harold Stone and First National Tower Ltd for their exceptional civic contribution of unwavering support and dedication to our community in the aftermath of the 2024 flood disaster. Your kindness and generosity have made a lasting impact on the city of Rozo and

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reflect the very best of our community spirit. Thank you. And well, we counselor, I did speak to Connie today. She did send a regress that she couldn't make it, but she's honored by the recognition. So, you know, they they really stepped up and helped us put the museum pieces that we had in in a great place, and a safe place, and they really stepped up and helped us. So, that was really great after the flood. Uh, next we have Omar Gonzalez. Omar, for the airport update. Welcome. You're a little taller than the other one. Yeah, thank you.

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Yeah, usually Miss Bob is the one up here doing this. Um, but she's she's out this week, so they told me that I was going to be stepping in her shoes. Congratulations.

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They fit a little small, but got them on. Um, you know, after the air races, we thought everything was going to calm down and, you know, we're going to have time to relax at the air center, but that wasn't the case. Um, there's just events after events happening at the air center. Um, which is it's been fun, I can say. Um, kept us kept us pretty busy, kept us on our toes. Uh, one of them I can give you an update on United Airlines. um over the past couple months they've they've done a site visit at least three different times with three different groups and each time they left um they left pretty enthusiastic about about coming here. They they left pretty excited. Um, they did tell us that on December 15th is when Sky West is going to start doing the training on the the employees that they're hiring to uh to operate for uh uh United Airlines, right? Um they didn't give us a date of February 17th is when when they looking to start doing flights. The tickets are already on sale. You can buy them online. Um, we're just trying to find space for them inside the terminal. Uh, we've been talking with with United about this the space that they're going to need, their office space that they might need, and we're just trying to squeeze them in for now until we can, you know, expand a little bit. Uh, okay. So, the next thing I got is I just got a little story. It's a I know most of you guys heard about the the passengers that were stranded here. So, I just had a firsthand account that I wanted to share with y'all. It's it it was on November on November 20th. We had just wrapped up our airport advisory committee meeting. So, as we as we left there, we heard that uh there was a

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flight coming from Midland that was diverted to to Roswell because of uh weather related issues. That flight sat outside and they went ahead and deboarded the the passengers. The passengers came inside and um that we were told that they're going to spend the night in Roswell. So with the leadership of Miss Bobby and uh she didn't even hesitate. She just, you know, started gathering us together. We grabbed we got staff together. We um gathered up bottles of water that we had, brought them to the terminal so we could make sure that the passengers had something to drink as they got off the planes as they settled in. you know, as the as the night went on, we we talked with the the uh the stranded travelers and uh we learned that one of the groups urgently needed to get to Luk. So, in a true display of community spirit, our very own Mr. mayor. He didn't hesitate and he offered his his personal vehicle and he offered to drive them himself to love which I'm sure was a very interesting conversation

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all the way to love which is is a very very short drive right u so I commend you on that Mr. Mayor, that was great leadership. Um, because of the number of passengers that were affected, the rental place, the rental cars that we had there at the terminal, they were unable to accommodate all the the passengers. So, there was a number of passengers that were left there uh without a ride to hotels. They called got rooms. So, without hesitation, our staff stepped up and they began providing rides for the passengers. They were taking them in their own vehicles to drop them off throughout hotels throughout the the city. Um, that's when one of the trips, our own award-winning operations supervisor, Mr. Paul Vill, he uh he approved he approved and he showed exactly why he just rarely received the pillar award 2 or three days earlier that week. Uh, so when Paul was was driving with one of the passengers to to go get food, he decided he was going to get 20 pizzas and he brought the pizzas back to the terminal so we could feed the the passengers that were there. There was no food um at the terminal for them to purchase. So he brought the pizza back so so they would have something to eat. Um, his generosity was a bright moment in a stressful night. I also encountered a family who needed to get to Midland. See, one of the women that was in that group, her her daughter was in the hospital in labor in Midland. So, she was she was pretty desperate to get to Midland, but uh I was able to help find transport for six of them. And I I truly hope that she was able to to welcome her new grandchild into this world. And then as the night wound down after ensuring that everyone needed transportation had received it, everyone who was hungry was fed

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um there was a few individuals who prefer to spend the night there in the terminal. So we had some pillows and blankets left over from the air races and uh we we gathered those up, took them to the those four passengers, got them the pillows, the blankets. I'm sure it wasn't very comfortable sleeping in those chairs, but we tried to make them as comfortable as they could be uh for the night. So, throughout this event, what stood out the most to me was this unwavering kindness, the teamwork, and the hospitality shown by the staff. They turned an unexpected, stressful situation into an example of what makes our community special. See, we didn't just assist the stranded passengers that night. We cared for them. We made them laugh. We made sure that they were safe. Well, even I even exchanged a few dad jokes with a couple of dads there and I took took those home and tried them out on my kids. They weren't happy.

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Um, but in every way, our team demonstrated the heart of this city, and I couldn't have been more proud that night. So, the next thing I also have is I wanted to show y'all this this new app that we have adopted. Um, so I've been at the air center since 2012. And before when we were doing our night inspections, our day inspections, we were uh piece of paper, drive around, write down what was wrong, then we would uh mark it in the book, log it in our books. And so by by the end of the year when we had our our uh inspections, we had a stack that big. You know, we'd have to sit there and go through every one of them, make sure everything was was done right, make sure work orders were sent down, make sure that anything that was found was was corrected. They're trying to get to the other screen to get to the link. get us into the So, while he's doing that, uh, we did come across this app and, uh, we have an an iPad that the the guy that goes on call, we have a guy

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that goes on call once a week or one week out of the month, right? And so, for that one week out of the month, he does night inspection and he does the day inspection. When he's doing night inspection, he's checking everything from lights to uh to signs to anything that the that may be needed for the aircraft when they're landing. Uh during the day, he's also checking for rocks, any fod, anything that's on the runways, the taxi ways that that could impact the airplanes. Mr. Mur, you're not asleep back there, are you?

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Close.

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Okay. So, I was going to walk you guys through the app, but it doesn't want to work. So, I'll just I'll just explain to you what the app does. So, the the app allows allows the guy to in real time um he goes through his inspection and he he's able to mark each light that's out and it'll create a work order for the light sends the work order. it sends to uh myself and to Paul and then it'll also send it to whoever we're going to assign the uh the work order to which would be the electrician and if it was a light um it sends a work they could create a work order for cracks in the runway to the fence being down to it even has a spot on there where we can uh monitor u wildlife so we can monitor the birds um dogs, which we seem to get a lot of out there at the base. Um, deer. I haven't had any deer.

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Are your lights mapped out over there or do you just put you have numbers for the lights? No, it it's so it's a map of the air center. Okay. So, it actually has the map.

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Yes. And so, um, the the two electricians that we have out there right now are doing GPS. And so, each light will have a a little marker on it. So, they can just select that marker. It'll pull up that marker and not only does it keep track of that it went out, but it keeps track of how many times that light's gone out, how much we've had to put into that light. And you know, if that lights go keeps going out, obviously there's something going on with that system and we need to go in and look more into the just not just the lighting, maybe the wiring. So, it helps us to be more efficient. It also helps us uh be more exact on what needs to get fixed, when it needs to get fixed, so we're ready for inspe come inspection time. And it, you know, it just brings us brings us to the now instead of using the pen and paper like uh we've been using. Um but it's it's a pretty exciting app. I mean, you guys are out at the terminal one time, you want to see what it looks like, I can uh just give me a call and I can I can walk you through it and show you how it how it works. Um, so that's I guess that's going to be it for that app since it doesn't want to cooperate. So the last thing I have is many of you know about the fire that happened at a deer center. So this is my firsthand account of what what happened. Um, so it was it was on the evening of December 4th. It was just before 8:00 and like many many others I know we're all at home watching the Cowboy game, right? And so I receive a call from Don and Don Fischer is the security at the center. He calls me and he says, "Hey, uh, one of the buildings is on fire. I don't know which one it is." So, reluctantly

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and you know and I'm watching the game. I said, "Man, I gota what do I do?" So, I got up, got dressed, and I I headed out there to the air center. Um, once I arrived at the air center, I mean, I could see it once I entered the base. You could just see the red glow from uh from the fire. And it was it was a such an unbelievable sight that it it looked like it was something out of a movie. You know, you've seen them in movies the way it looked. And it was just the flames stretched from one end of the building to the other end of the building and they were pretty tall and it was it was burning pretty hot. Um I mean I I I watched that historic building just engulfed in flames and I've been at the air center for 9 years. So it was it was a little hard to to to look at. It was kind of heartbreaking to see that building just burning to the ground without you know there's nothing you could do about it. Um so at but at this time I don't have any updates regarding the cause of the fire. Um and the information is being handled in solely by ATF officials. But what I can speak to is the tremendous respect that I've gained for the city's fire department and the surrounding fire departments. See, I witnessed remarkable remarkable bravery from the men and women as they worked tirelessly to contain the fire. The fire only burned just right there where the building's at. And and I don't know if you know where building 66 is, but it was one of the original buildings from the uh Walker Air Force Base.

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It was at 1942. Um, I lost where I was. Okay. So, they worked tirelessly and effortlessly, right, to keep to keep the fire contained. There was parts uh airplane parts right behind the the building on the on the ramp side. They were able to keep the fire from moving over to to those parts. There was a tank, gas tank, fuel tanks in the back. They were able to keep the fire from going there. Um, they even had planes parked back there in the back and were able to keep the fire contained just to that one little area. Um, I'd also like to recognize Oh, Chief Chavez over here. Um, as I was out there, I look over and I can I see Chief Chavez just running back and forth between fire the fire trucks to the to the fire hydrants just pulling hose back and forth. And uh, you know, I was pretty I was pretty impressed. He's still back.

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He's still got it.

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Um, see, Chief Jav was uh he was trying to ensure that all the fires had the flow of water that they needed. So, the leadership and the hands-on commitment were even evidenced throughout the night. Airport staff also responded quickly as well as we assisted responders opening the gates, helping secure the area. Um, their support played a critical role in keeping the situation controlled and safe. Now, I would also like to thank and send a gratitude out to the New Mexico Youth Challenge. See, the next day we were tasked with putting up over 1,000 ft of temporary fence to block off that area. And the small staff that I have was going to take us pretty much the whole day to to do that. But I made a made a couple phone calls. I called Billy Jean over at you Challenge. She got in contact with Captain Martinez and he didn't hesitate to send out a platoon of kids, which was probably about 30 kids, I'd say. They came over, they put the fence together, put it where we needed it at, and that took them maybe an hour and a half to get that done. Uh, their willingness to step in during a time of need, not uh didn't go unnoticed, and it's deeply appreciated. While this incident brought significant loss, it showcases extraordinary collaboration, courage, and community support. So, I'm grateful to everyone who played a part in responding to this event, and I remain proud of the resilience and dedication shown by all individuals involved. And if I could chime in real quick, just a couple of quick uh things to note. Um, this uh building is under ATF investigation as we speak. So, we'll limit the public comments uh that come out of the city uh to ATF and their PIO coordination with the city. At this point, uh we do have our insurance

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investigator coming down this Friday uh to visit the site under ATF supervision. Uh kudos to of course our local fire department volunteers and our airport staff. Uh something that uh is kind of unique and special that is being uh noted by ATF and others that have come in from outside the community is the way our city staff works with one another and knows one another whether it's the water department working with the fire department, the airport working with the fire department, etc., etc. So kudos all around. Um again, this this site is under investigation and as soon as we get the report, we'll share that publicly. Uh but at this point it is a secure site and we have notified the tenant in writing to stay off of that site.

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And so that would conclude my portion. So I stand for any questions. Anyone have questions? Councelor Maru. First off, first question is who are the cowboys? But anyway, um the date of the amendment was stranded, were our food service out there wasn't able to get out there and help with the food? No. And that's one reason Bobby's talking about trying to find somebody else. Correct. Also, another thing is um did you ever consider reaching out to the university? The reason I'm telling you is we have plenty of beds out there. It' be something we need to consider in the future because we do have beds. We have rooms.

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Okay. We put him up, help him out. And if you know Dr. Pal, he is willing to put his hand out there and help any way he can. Right. I I know Dr. Pal. Yeah. I keep that in mind. You know, hopefully it never happens again. If it does, I would definitely keep that in mind. Yeah. And like I said, I know Dr. Pow put his hand out there. He'll open up wherever he needs to open up something like that. Thank you, Mr. Yes, sir. Thank you, Council Maro. You know, and please note, be sure you get applications from the college for our loggers. You know, it didn't come from the finance committee. Somebody got fun this place.

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Any further comments?

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It was out. I was out there that night. It was really good. You can't believe all the surrounding departments that came. Everybody came. But you look how many hoses we had and had those big water cannons on the top of fire trucks and everything else. When they would hit that wall that was uh the whole wall on the south side was just lit up 30 feet tall. It was 25 or 30 feet tall. It was lit up just from glowing from the fire behind it. So was the north wall all the way down. I mean it was amazing how much was there. And to coordinate that many hoses and I hope everybody got their own hose back. But I mean with all the fire trucks that was really a a really good fantastic course of action that fire u of course the other one had a pretty big start on us over there across the street when it burned a year and a half ago but uh this one was totally controlled quickly and our our fire department and and the people working together was certainly true whether you were police or who you were. It was it was really uh something to watch. I was very proud of our city and you're right about us working together. That airport that air race put our staff working together better than anything else. And I can't I can't tell you how proud I was to go out there and be associate either as an ex fire chief or whatever and seeing how well everyone worked together was really good. So any further comments,

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Omar? Okay. Thank you very much. Okay, Mr. Con.

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Good evening, Mary J. Uh, Mayor Jennings and Roswell City Council. The AAC had our December meeting this past Tuesday on the 9th. We had most of our Air Center employees in attendance with the exception of Bobby Thompson who's at a conference in Las Vegas and Michelle Sanchez, uh, who just underwent knee replacement surgery. Omar Gonzalez, deputy RAC director, represented city staff at our meeting. uh did a great job just as he did this evening. Omar, thank you. Uh thanks to everyone who attended in person and several that attended online. Our agenda was again lengthy with 22 items to be addressed. One public comment was moved on our agenda to accommodate a pilot representing the Kremlin organization. His comment had to do with the increased security measures required for entry exit uh into and out of the secured side of the air center. The increased security requirement was deemed to be more ownorous than necessary. I see our pilot on the city council shaking his head. Uh especially when exiting the secured area. Don Fiser, our air center security expert, addressed the question. His answer was predicated on the TSA requirements put in place following issues with the security from about 3 years ago. Many of you are familiar with that. Uh the current security requirements are in place for at least two more years uh and could possibly be extended beyond that

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time by the TSA if need necessary. However, Mr. Fiser did offer to meet with the pilot outside of the meeting to determine if any accommodation could be made for their situation. So, that's the only formal uh complaint that we've had. There's been numerous other folks that have just said it's pretty ownorous, but we don't have a lot of f flexibility because it's a TSA mandated agreement to what we had agreed to. The ADB lighting and new electrical wall project continues. The lighting portion of the project for updating, installing, and replacing original airport lighting and wiring continues two weeks each month. As previously cited, the new electrical vault portion of the project is much more complex. We've talked about that the last couple of months. The existing two vaults, which control airport runway lighting, are functional, but they are in need of constant maintenance. These two vaults are original equipment at the air center. Our engineering firm Engineering has done a survey to determine if there are any spare components that are older that could be used in these older vaults. If the regulator fails in the vault, Lochner has determined that there are no replacement parts that can be utilized in the existing vaults. Therefore, if there is a component failure in the existing vault, there is not a way to repair the old equipment to keep runway lighting operational.

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And make sure everybody heard me say that. Lochner, after additional research into lead times for a new regulator to power the new electrical vault, has identified that a best case scenario to obtain a new regulator could easily be into 2027. People don't have this kind of equipment sitting in stores. They make it as they get requests. At the conclusion of our discussion at our AEC meeting, Lochner was asked to address this critical issue and provide the air center some sort of plan about how we can accommodate aircraft with a possible inoperative runway lighting system. As Lochner has determined the extent of this problem over the last few months, the AAC felt it was imperative that we at least had some sort of plan to determine what action the air the air center can take uh if there is a regulator failure in our existing fault system. Lochner has been asked to provide any additional info and a plan to the AAC in the next two months. The BLM taxiway update project hit a waterline during construction that was not known to be in that area. Some of the things I'm talking about are not fun things to talk about. So the project now requires lowering the water line and sleeving the line to protect from construction above the line and from the weight of heavily loaded tanker planes that use the taxi way. Loer still

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believes this project can be completed in late January or early February, well before the 2026 fire season. The southeast water line project is also continuing. Phase one of the water line for the southeast corner of the air center is complete. Underground utilities to the southeast corner continue to be installed. Sewer line construction is expected to be completed in March of 2026. This project is tied into the proposed air center aircraft museum which is outside of the air center. The museum taxiway and gate update project is also continuing to move forward. Excel Energy has now completed plans for electrical service to the museum location. Taxiway plans to move aircraft from the RAAC across Wyom road are mostly complete. However, plans for the size of the gate to get the aircraft uh to move aircraft off the ra and across oil road and a method to get the aircraft wings with engines below the wings through the gate and over the security fence is still being investigated. So any of you engineers, Mr. Cortez that uh that need to figure out how we can make all that happen. Um the engineering firm Mosul Corbett is working on that. But that's but that's a problem without tearing a bunch of fence. The last item that I will address tonight is the terminal restroom

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project. This has been near and dear to my heart for the last several months. Um the main terminal restrooms which are just west of the stairwell that goes up to the second floor um are in the final punch list and cleanup phase. We had a walk walk through this morning with the contractor and a representative from the uh engineering firm. Uh, the two restrooms are updated and are modern in appearance. I know that's hard to believe in our 50-year-old building out there, but quite honestly, it looks great. If a restroom can look great, um, modern in appearance and function with automatic water faucets, longlasting stainless steel partitions. Uh the modern appearance is a huge update for our facility. This will definitely enhance passenger service uh for the terminal. Demolition of the east restrooms by the baggage claim area will begin this coming week. These two new restrooms will have similar finishes and updating uh similar to the main restrooms that are just about completed. They the two on the east end of the building are expected to be completed by the end of February 2026. This completes my report and I stand for any questions. Councel Hson.

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So, how do we have a water line that we didn't know anything about? I don't know if that's a question for James. You you likely don't know, but there are water lines and electric lines and sewer lines and stuff all over that air center that nobody knows are there. Can we do like 3D mapping or anything?

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You can. And the engineering firm has said in some areas that they're going to do that, but just to uh for the for the area where where this was installed, it could have run 45 to $50,000 just to do the subsurface mapping. It's It's very expensive to get that done. Yeah. Yeah. No little witches. So, how hard is it to plug off that water line if you don't know it's there and you break it? How do you turn it off? Well, first of all, there was water in it. Yeah. So, we we don't necessarily know where it goes.

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Yeah. So, that means we can't just plug it off. Yeah. That's what I was curious. So, so they had to they had to dig it up across where the runway was. The runway wasn't installed, but the base course was. So, they had to dig it up and they're going to have to lower it. Lower below where it is now and sleeve it so that weight of air and things like that. They can't just cap it off. That's what I'm saying. If you don't know where the water goes, you still get the water there. There's a lot of curve field out there. There's no telling where all that stuff that curve whatever that field is. We have a lot of water. Turn it off to figure out real quick where it goes.

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Well, that's that's not exactly true. Any and any any other questions? Councilman Korn. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'll tell you what happens when you lose the runway lights, you shut the airport down for night on bridges. Period. And and that's something that we obviously don't want to do. Well, you got a late night American Airlines that comes in. Well, and you're leaving early in the morning sometimes in the dark, too.

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Yeah. United. So, so that's why we've we've only determined what the situation is with availability of these kind of components just in the last couple months. And so, the next step is to have the engineering firm come up with some alternative plan besides shutting it down during nighttime hours. And I and you're correct. I don't know what that plan might be, but we've got to investigate it and think about it.

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Well, I don't know how the electrical system is, but I know 17's on one because at night they turn off the light 17 and operate on 21, which is our main runway. But there are there are two control vaults, electrical control vaults out there, the the original ones, and they don't I don't know that they necessarily work in tandem. They may do different areas. Um, but if components in those fail, specifically the regulator, there aren't any available. Understand?

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Yeah. All all we could do would be to identify something at an airport that maybe would be willing to to have us borrow it from him or something, but that's probably not highly likely. Well, that water line that you're talking about could possibly run to some fire hydrants out in the air field. I don't know enough about it to know how all that plumbing is connected. So that that water line feeds the BLM building. It's their their water supply. Okay. So it comes from 91 back. Yeah.

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So no it it comes from uh Jennifer Lane right there. Uhhuh. And it cuts straight across straight across that where they're digging and it feeds uh the BLM building. Okay. So that's why we couldn't have it. We could now but during fire season probably have to open it up. Mr. Bill was thinking.

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Yeah. Has any other comments? Has anyone talked with uh Excel Energy reference about the problems we have? I mean those they have a lot of talents and an awful lot of electrical engineers that might be able to help us figure out that problem with the runways and the vaults and all that other stuff about we've we've got ADB engineering that is a third party contractor that the city has hired and they're on a contract to provide those services. Their their main function of course was to replace old outdated lighting and wiring. A lot of the wiring out there that feeds the lights that go to the runways is original wiring that the air force put down or the army army actually put down. Uh so so ADB Lighting, which is a a major nationwide organization that does this to update airports, um has originally identified this. We've had them talk to us and uh and you're right, XL Energy may be able to help. I don't know about regulators. That's a good thought, but ADB seems to have a handle on the pulse of that kind of equipment and can we get any or is there any available?

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My goal is just not to dismiss somebody who electricity is their business. Yep. And I mean, and you know, most people don't probably know that, but the air base just till a couple years ago was on a different kind of current than the rest of the town. And you know, so everything on the air base had to have some kind of different transformers on different things and uh because they had a different military type current or something that the rest of us uh had different in town. So there were some there had been some things with the college and they just changed transformers so everybody's on the same thing. Yeah, we can uh

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we can make a call to ADB tomorrow and alert them to that and see if they've if they've got any if XL Energy can help them out with anything. Yeah, do that. But, you know, XL Energy is going to know what kind is going to know throughout their huge company. You're probably going to know what an awful lot of other places use and there might be something they might know is similar or might have where they service might have repair parts. Who knows? But couldn't hurt to ask. No. Well, that's a good thought. Thank you, Mr.

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Okay. Thank you, bud. Next, we have item 31, airport uh travel, out of state travel. Mr. Mayor, while the plastic travels coming up, councelor Herson's question about not knowing water lines and stuff out there. I can guarantee you because councelor Co and I talked about this in particular on this southside town. There are water lines that we have no idea that are there until they last back 70, 60 years ago. So until they bring

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there dealing with stuff around like that something from the airplanes that shows they built that in the time of war but the only thing you have to look at that it hanger that burned up was all 41 and all that. We have water pipelines that are 8 10 in and 12 in. They're cast iron. They're useful after 40 years. They're still going to work. So, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Okay, officer F. Good evening, Mayor. I guess you're kind of a short time or two. 80. So, I got my phone.

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I'll drop the count. Okay. Out of state travel coming up for the RS Police Department. Lieutenant Fry and Deputy Chief Aldono will be going to Phoenix or Scottsdale, Arizona for Axon Leadership Technology Summit looking at Axon technology and realtime crime center stuff. Uh all they'll need is perium and they're taking a vehicle. The Axon is paying for the hotel. There will be cost savings to the city. Uh, Officer Ashley Hunter will be going to Amarillo, Texas on January 12th and 13th for women in command class to learn and obtain tools of effective leadership in women policing. And the last two two different dates, January 19th through the 22nd and February 9th through the 12th, officers Jimenez, Gyos, Cardier, and Alvidas will be going to swiftwater rescue technician training in Texas. uh the one that was brought up a couple months ago in council along with the fire department. I stand for any questions.

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Any questions of the chief? Thank you. Very short. Okay. Next we have item 32. Oh yeah. Omar, come in. I'm sorry.

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So, good evening. Um, January 15th, I've had the opportunity to go to Washington DC to uh join an NTSB investigation and uh seminar. So, they'll be the classes to help uh you know investigate to document just in case something was to happen at the Earth Center. Um, hopefully nothing does ever happen, but this class will help document uh and who we need to get in contact with, who we need to to call um, staff or any questions.

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Any Okay, is that all?

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Okay. And Omar, if you would, when Bobby comes back, uh, if you would have her get with me, I would like to write a letter to the FAA and explain that this new council that we have cleaned up our airport and to ask them to re-evaluate some of that about how well we are doing, we did with the air show and everything else to write about removing some of those uh criteria that we have. I know they are national punishments because of the under our FBI agent things didn't happen very well and we had an awful lot of problems at the airport throwing people off and FAA inspectors it doesn't take a smart guy to figure out you don't do that but uh but we have changed and and I would really like to point that out to them.

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Yes, I'll give you that. Okay. Unless we have for uh Oh, the hose boy.

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Should we just call you Jose or what? We the hose be Mr. Mayor Council Harris. Are this is the team that we spoke about last month. Uh these this is a group of gentlemen that that will be attending the San Antonio Water Rescue uh class with Chief Bane and his personnel. They'll be going on two different dates. The first Justin, these are some of our company officers. Lieutenant Justin Dorne, Lieutenant Gambo, Lieutenant Bwick, FAO Moz, Lieutenant Boyd, Fo Baz, and then firefighters. Those are the guys that'll be our part of the water rescue team. Uh, and I think once we get this completed, uh, we'll have a a rescue uh, we got to send some guys to a rescue boat um, uh, class. if they've got we're getting a boat donated to us by Church on the Move. Uh once we get that boat, we'll have to send some we'll have to send another team uh to get uh licensed in and operate boat operations. So those are some of the upcoming things for for our team. Uh our water truck that we we spoke about the the self-insurers fund uh got us an LMTV, just a larger vehicle for water rescue. We'll attach that boat to that truck and then these these team members will use that for for any other flooding events that we might have. Thank you for your time. You have any questions?

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Mr. Mayor, I think that Bill Hartman has a boat they could use. So once uh we get everyone trained, you don't need any additional equipment other than caring so the trouble gets out. Yes, ma'am. There'll be some other stuff that that we'll get, but uh we we fire department park has purchased our our uh stuff. We got life jackets, water, wet suits. Uh so, we went ahead and purchased that stuff. Big ticket items are taking, right? Anything else to help fund is willing to help. I think church on the move also advised that they did help. And then the college is helping with some more training.

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So, we got a lot of support. Was that the boat that ran into the sheriff and he wouldn't get on the boat when he was almost when he was floating around in his pickup? No, sir.

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Oh, any further comments? Thank you, Chief. Thanks for your good job on the hoses. Okay, next public participation in order to speak. We have Let's just bring back memories. Michaela men, that mean Oh, okay. 406 South Kentucky.

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Yes. Good evening, Mr. Mayor, counselors. Thank you for giving me a few minutes uh to speak. My name is Michaela Morris. I serve as a volunteer um advanced EMT director of Picos Valley Public Services. We are a licensed medical rescue and community EMS agency in Raleigh. We also operate as a registered overdose prevention provider and offer free medical training including AHA, CPR, AB, stop the bleed, first aid, and of course, Narcan Administration. I want to express my sincere appreciation for your consideration of allocating opioid settlement fund money to address the ongoing crisis. My thanks especially to councilors Arnold and Korn for their work to bring that proposal forward. As many as you know, local volunteer organizations are on the streets every day responding to the full spectrum of mental health and social service crisis. In just past in just the past few days, we spent more than 15 hours assisting an elderly gentleman who had become stranded in Roswell and was experiencing significant mental health challenges during which he actually ran into a sheriff's office car. working with nurses, physicians, adult protective services, community volunteers, and first responders, Picos was actually eventually able to secure appropriate placement for that gentleman and secure his belongings.

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I understand that Life House provides service valuable services related to opioid problems in Kpat and Artisia and I believe they could also be helpful here. I personally would welcome their interest in expanding the role. However, it is important to recognize that local volunteer and faith-based organizations, including the Salvation Army, Roswell Disaster Relief, Food Not Bounds, and our own agency, to just name a few, have long carried the day-to-day burden of supporting all the neighbors. With potential reductions in programs such as Medicaid and SNAP coming, the role of cost-effective volunteer organizations will become even more crucial. For that reason, I respectfully ask the council to ensure that any engagement with Life House or other outside entities is coordinated with local volunteer resources and first responders before funding decisions are finalized. I believe that collaboration will ensure the best possible outcome for both the community and the effective use of settlement funds.

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Your time is that's all I have to say. Thank you.

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Thank you. Any questions? Yes, ma'am. Council lady. Um, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, thank you for bringing this up and also thank you for your service. Um, I do want to uh just let you know that there was a lot of time spent working to figure out how what to do with the the funding and um and then a lot of time working with officials to figure out what they were comfortable with doing with the funding. So, I don't want you to feel as though there won't be opportunity. um your organization has come up many times as something that is imperative that Life House collaborates with, but it's all about timing. Um I needed to focus on getting the county and the city understanding some ideas on what to put forward. Uh, and I do want to say should this p the contract pass um, council, it was absolutely in my mindset to create a huge meet and greet for everyone to meet with Lighthouse because Lighthouse actually wouldn't be successful here if they don't work with the community. That's how they do in Carl's backpack. They're all community collaborations. And so, um, that of course is in is in the plan moving forward. I just wanted to reassure you that it there will be engagement coming. Okay. Thank you.

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May I answer? Go ahead. Yes.

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It is I have never come before the council asked the city for anything. It's not about funding for us. We don't really care where the money is spent. We just believe that it should be spent effectively and that requires that those organizations who are on the street every day around the world deliver input before money is spent. You know, I mean, you can talk to everybody. You can talk to Life House and you can talk about their situation in Carl'sbad or Artisia. Ours is different. We already have crisis response. We already have training. So, I understand what you're saying and I appreciate it. I I make that clear and I believe that Life House could be a valuable service uh to the community. All I'm asking is that that you take the time, ask the city as you to sit down with the first responders and community groups who doing that since years and say, "Okay, what is it you need? What is it? How can we allocate the resources to support you? And I believe that that lighouses is a big issue. You know, we want them to be here. But what we do not think appropriate is that we put somebody on top like that house and they say, tell us how it's supposed to go. We have the experience here. We're doing it since a long, long time. We're trained. We have resources. All that is already available. It just needs to be more effective and that is where funding can go to. We need the backing in the back you know I mean what is it we resolve a crisis how do we treat the people after the crisis has been resolved we need backup in the back that is where life comes in I'm asking please talk to us

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let us give you the input you guys all need to make the best decision to effectively disperse the money yeah you know all our fire department our police department and you all everybody needs to sit down and work together with the hospitals and everything else on Absolutely. I agree and that's what you're saying and that should happen. We should we should all look at that all the way through about who where everybody going getting people to service as quick as possible and I'm sure we'll keep that going. I I agree with you know everybody has to be in tune with what's happening.

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Any further comments? Hey, thinking I would take care of 406 South Kentucky. That's my grandmother's house. I will. All right. Next, we have Terry Moore, 1200 South Richardson. More.

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At this point, it's like good morning, mayor, council members. My name is Carrie Moore. I'm the director for the Chavis County Health Council, 1200 South Richardson. I'm here just because um as the director of the Health Council, we are part of the Behavioral Health uh reform investment act, which is the SB3, and we had our first meeting on Tuesday. So, I'm here to give an update and discuss the collaboration and some opportunity for extra funding that's going to start coming through. Um, so, um, for those of you who don't know, the Behavioral Health Reform Investment Act was a billion dollar trust that was created. Right now, there's $250 million set aside for the next four years to help with behavioral health. Um, they broke it off into the judicial districts. And so, we are part of Eddie and Lee County. Eddie County is the head of our LC LC5 district. Um, so we have to meet with them and they'll oversee all the funding and everything that comes through. There was $27 million that has to be spent out by the end of FY27. So they divided that up into all the LC's. Um, for us that's about 2 million for the LC5. They're thinking they're going to divide that up about 650,000 per county. We're not 100% sure. This is what that meeting was on Tuesday was trying to assess what the gaps in services are and to try to filter that money into hitting some of those target areas because that funding has to be spent out. Um that has to go to Eddie County will put it to Santa Fe next week. So we should be hearing something soon on that one. Um, we are also working with Judge Hudson. Um, we're working on writing a grant for

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gel diversion program. Um, again, it's part of that funding that has to be spent out by F27. Um, it's just they're allocating it weirdly. Some of it's through the AOC, some of the HCA. And so, we're just trying to piece all these sections together. And I am so out of my depth on a lot of it because I don't deal within that. But I'm a good researcher and I can find stuff. I'll find it. Um, so we're working on that. That won't we don't have to turn that grant in until the 19th. Um, but we're trying to start at least with a gel diversion piece to it. Um, the other big piece is that the um through the SP3 we have the uh community listening session that's coming up. That's going to be January 13th at the college from 9 to 11:30. That's where we start our collaboration. That's where we bring in the hospitals, the the behavioral health, the nonprofits, the faith-based and the government entities and start discussing what pieces we want where we want to start filling in and start building our plan. Um, so this is the beginning of it and that is all I have at this time. So, I'll stand for any questions.

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Council lady, so other than the jail diversion, the funding will go to something like this. Yeah, that 250 million is tied to it. It's in five different areas. And I know you're going to ask me and I didn't write them down. Dang it. Um, but it's gel diversion. It's Matt services for the jail. Um it is the behavioral health, it's uh the treatment centers, um and then it's the social determinance of health. So um we can detox them and and put them in places, but if we put them right back on the street, it doesn't do anything any good. So it's trying to fill all those gaps all the way through.

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So it sounds like this would be good collaboration with like lighthouse what they're going to be doing with the opioid funds because it's all covering the same things, right? So, and and a lot of it is because they seem to be throwing this out here like on really fast deadlines. This grant for uh that Judge Hudson's working on, I got it yesterday. It's due in a month. These are really fast. Write a gel diversion grant in four weeks in the middle of our research.

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Yeah, I'm participating all these pieces together to start building it. It's that 250 million is for four years. So, because we're lacking in so many resources, the goal is to try to attack and get my hands on as much as we can for our county. It's every county in New Mexico, I think, is lacking resour Well, yeah, but they're not going to divide it up evenly. So, I'm going to attack and try to get as much as we can for our county. It's on how who appointed you or are you appointed by the county commission? Is that how that

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So, uh, every county has to have a health council. Um, where I'm at is recognized by the county as the official health council for the county being the director. Our funding goes through Department of Health. Part of our funding mandates that I have to be on this behavioral health grant. So kind of sort of yes, we're an unfunded mandate. Thank you, Councilman Korn. So who's your uh who's keeping track of the money? Fiscal agent. What you want? Huh? We're uh we're a we're a 501c3.

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Who's your fuciary agent? The Chaps County Health Council. We're a 501c3. We're a nonprofit. using state money which comes through do but at least Mr. Mayor you can correct me if I'm wrong but you have to have a government agency as your produc fiduciary because the money can't go private people. Huh? Can't go to private can't go to you.

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Yep. city available. We're not going to we don't have any provisions right now or the county or the school district. I have a contract with the state of New Mexico through the department of health to provide services through to the county to Chhattis County. You're talking about some real money here.

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I do not I'm not the one that's touching the 250. I'm not the SB3 food bud fidiciary holder on this one. My $80,000 that I get from DO to operate the health council and to cover the initiatives that they have me doing is separate from this. Understand? They send you that $80,000 directly? Yes. And I have deliverables and I have to invoice for that. So you're contracted with the state. Yes.

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So I guess DFA is taking care of the requirements under the law. You can't normally at least I don't know any way to do it where you receive state funds. It has to come to somebody else, another state agency, city agency, county agency. And I don't know, there may be a break in there. I don't know where you can directly contract with the state. But the money you're talking about, you're going to have to have a fiscal agent.

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So for the behavioral health reform investment act, that SB3, that $1 billion trust fund, that $250,000 has to be allocated out in the next four year, that is through Eddie County. Eddie County is the head of that. Everything will run through that. So, it's going through Eddie County, right? When when we're talking about that. Yeah. So, it'll all be taken care of by Eddie County. She has to send her bills to Eddie County and then Eddie County authorizes them and they paid. Yep. No, but Okay. Okay. Thank you very much, Miss Moore. Yes.

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Before we get going into the public hearing, can I have a couple minutes here to say a few things? A couple things. Yeah, just a couple. Are you worried? Do we have any objection by any member of the council? Is there anyone that wants to hear? Let me think about vote on this. How do you want me to address you guys? There is a place here for public participation. I did I can sign up. I feel the pressure. Well, I come next month. You can sign up. Can Can you keep it short if you start the timer? Three minutes.

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Yes, sir. Madam Cler,

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can you give me three minutes? I'll try to do less. I just want to say uh I've really appreciated getting to work with all of you. Um it's been an honor. um all of you up here working with you, Mr. Mayor, obviously council brand. I'd like to congratulate uh councelor Gas, soon to be councelor Gas on filling seat on a ward three. Thanks to Matt Chapel as well for his service and all of you. Um you know, there's a lot of uh we do a lot of serious things up here. I didn't know what we would do when we got in here. And uh I've gotten the opportunity with working with Chad uh city staff, the clerks, uh apparently the most bodacious fire chief around with his uh all these discussions of boats and the hoses he pulls. It's really challenging not to get excited. Um I've worked with engineering. I've worked with water. Uh still doing projects. I'm here for 20 days, 4 hours, 16 more minutes. Miss Arnold, I'm a little concerned about your 10 uh presents. That's a big bar you set there. So, challenge accepted. No, Julian, you don't get credit for hours. The currency is toys and they're for tots. So, pony up. You got until 5:00 tomorrow. Like to thank uh Mike Matthews. I'd like to thank uh there's just too many people to thank. Um you know, we all work up here. We sit at DAS and we talk and we make decisions that are consequential. But the true work and I think the mayor talks about this is behind the scenes the maintenance. Julian, there's a reason we don't know where the lines are cuz you can't see under the ground unfortunately. Yeah. Um it's hard work. Um there's a lot to do. Um maintenance and those things, water, you guys are great. Um, there's so many people in the city working every day that we don't get

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to see see what they do. Uh, you know, I'm a I'm a grunge kid 1990s. So, you know, I'm more of a Pearl Jam guy as you guys know. And I just wanted to say that this year's also challenging because uh we did lose uh Aussie Osborne as you know. And uh I didn't really like metal, you know, slayer rules and all, but Azie said uh the power of people when they focus on something positive never fails to amaze me. And I think that's what I'm going to take away from working with the city and working with all you. And I just really appreciate the opportunity and I'll still be here in the community. Your biggest fans, keep doing what you do and thank you for all you do. We'll see you next time. Oh, and uh Omar's not here, but go Hawks. What was the time?

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Chris, I'll see you at the end. Don't show. Okay, there's 20 seconds to

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I'm going to take his last 20 some seconds. He has I just want to tell you I appreciate councelor Cortez and what he's done. It's been a great pleasure to work with him. when he first came on, we were going to be W three and we were going to attack all the other wards and and want to take control. He wanted to take control of all, but it's been a great pleasure working with him. The things he's done with the water department. Yeah, we're working on on a neighborhood stabilization program in W 3. Hopefully, it's going to work out well and we can roll it out to the rest of the wars. But it's been a great pleasure knowing Chris how I know him now and uh you'll be deeply missed and as everyone we move on. So thank you again Chris.

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Okay. Thank you. Uh, one thing he's I was looking for a new young person to come here and really get into city government and you really did a good job, Chris. And most people will never know the help you've done and the things you've done in the water department to get it straight. And uh, you and Tammy and and the water department, the water department here was set up on it. It was not set up correctly. It was a total mess and they've been able to go around and get things working and and you provided a great deal of of help for that. I certainly appreciate that and I think but the public will probably not ever really know the help and the things that you put together on the with the fire department on the water the uh fire hydrants and their flow and everything else on making them work testing them and getting everything back together. When I when we started as mayor we had like 200 and some power plugs that didn't work. So there was a whole bunch and and you know you really helped our water department immensely and uh I thank you very much for that and and you know but you kind of led slide there a little bit when if when Bud was telling you about all this engineering degree you had would you please furnish him a copy and maybe the council

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Well Mr. chair, just real quick. I appreciate all that. Of course, I'm not an engineer, right? I'm just a well trained parrot. Um, but I would like to say that, you know, I I think uh I was part of a team with the city um working continuously. There's still a lot of work left to be done. Shantel's here. Um, we've got some we're we're we're just I just helped to kind of give us a little a little more technological edge, but I'm I'm not actually like it's these guys out there, the water department out there that was testing hydrants today and doing great field notes. You're lucky I have a no poaching role. Um, cuz I would I would snag some of those water guys. Um, not so much the firefighters. I I don't like the mustaches. They freak me out. Um, the bearded the bearded water guys fit in better a little bit. You know, I don't even tie I don't we don't tie women to railroad tracks and stand over them like the mustache firefighters, but uh I just would say that uh your work's ongoing. Um it's it's combination. It's toning, it's finance, it's building, it's all this stuff that goes on behind the scenes every day that you have to keep up. You have to maintain. It's challenging work. You know, it's not exciting work. It's like, you know, I got to go get a proctologology exam or something. You know, women have to do the smear thing, you know, partial credit. Um, it's it's challenging work, but it's not exciting, but it goes on and on and on and on. And I didn't do much. I really did a little part, and I'm glad to help, and it's going to go on without me, and there's lots to do, and I'll be around to help you guys and cheer you on. So, I hope you consider me a resource, and I'll be ready. So,

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thank you. But you have your engineering degree in hard knocks and I'll give you one if you need one. You know, he really has been a huge help and thank you. And Kurt, you got big shoes to fill, but you'll do fine as a chair. You know, you fill that chair like me, you're in good shape. So, it's good. you really did a lot of help for us and I I really I appreciate your appointment and thank you for serving and I hope you will look at more government uh city government activities in the future. Okay. So now we gave you all that time three minutes you owe us. Okay. Is there uh anyone else? No one else has signed up for public uh participation. So next we go to item 32, approval of final plaque to roof plaque, five lots in into eight lots and eight single family residential lots in 800 block of West College and the 1500 blocks of North Michigan Avenue, North Kansas Avenue. Councelor Hill Halbertson.

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Mr. Chair, I move that we open a public hearing for approval of final plat five lots and eight lots for eight single family residential lots in the 800 block West College Boulevard and the 1500 blocks of North Michigan Avenue and North Kansas Avenue swear in your right hand. Okay. Do you solemnly swear the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? I do. Okay. We have a motion by Council Harson, a second by Second. Council Arnold.

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Okay. Proceed.

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Thank you, Mayor Jennings. Members of the council, here we have zoning case implat-25-01 80. It's a final plat. We're requesting the city council hold a public hearing to hear the zoning case, which is a request to approve Black Diamond Maywood subdivision, a minor subdivision plat in the R3 zoning district to subdivide 1.72 acres that consists of five existing lots into eight lots to build eight single family dwellings in the 800 block of West College Boulevard and the 1500 block of North Kansas and North Michigan avenues. This slide shows the zoning map again zoning district. You can see it's on the north side of College Boulevard. The stars show the five existing lots and the excerpt from the plat the proposed black diamond made with subdivision shows eight lots. Each of the lots is 150 ft wide. Excuse me, 150 ft deep. And the through the six interior lots are 60 ft wide and the two corner lots are 70 ft wide. And each of those lots does meet the minima. It exceeds the minimum lot size. Um this is a Google Earth Street view of the properties under consideration. You

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can see the alley in between and this is looking north from Maple Avenue. This is an excerpt from the conference and master plan preferred land use scenario map. 2016. And this case meets a couple of the goals in the conference and master plan of 2016, including neighborhoods and housing. Goal one, promote a variety of housing types, sizes, and price ranges to accommodate housing needs of existing and future residents. And chapter 4, section 4.9, land use goal one, promote quality infill development and redevelopment within existing neighborhoods or areas that are already served by city infrastructure. There is water and sewer already available in this area to serve these lots. There have been zero protests. uh only one inquiry to someone who received a letter and they wanted to know more about the case and what that meant. On December 9th, 2025, the city of Roswell Planning and Zoning Commission voted 6 to0 to recommend approval and send case implant-25-0180 to city council and based on all the above the regulations established in the zoning ordinance and subdivision ordinance planning and zoning commission recommendation. and the materials presented. Council is requested to vote on this case. And Arturo Alvarado, he's the owner of the property and also the

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applicant. He was don't think he made it. He had a family engagement that he had to to be at. Any questions of Eric? Miss hi council. Thank you for all you do and good luck on your zoning revision next year. Um are we uh also approving so we're doing a variance also on the setback there is that part of on that plat says uh

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mayor Jennings councelor Cortez only the planning and zoning commission has to approve the variances which they did okay so varian just was curious how that works so that makes it more practical in that sense a little more practical to develop a lot. Correct. Okay. Thank you.

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So any further comments? So then on on College Street where these are is there room on those streets for the expansion of college and to make college a bigger street. Mayor Jennings, the ride ofway there is approximately 16 ft from back of curb to the property line. So there's plenty of room for any type of expansion on college. There's plenty of room if we had to add a street on or a lane on either side of that street because that it's the same as

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well I understand. I'm just looking about when you go down that road. I know. But it wouldn't make any sense to put one there on these two blocks. Well, you might have to eat that. You might have to buy it all. That's why I just wondered if there was a bunch of room. You don't want to have to buy houses. So, that's all I'm saying is college is a street that needs is very very busy. Mayor Jennings, the there is about it's my understanding there's about 16 feet of rideway between backup curb and the property line side of college. That's on both sides. I don't know about the other side. That's on the north side though. On the north side. Yes, sir.

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The plaque shows it's a college is an 80 foot existing 80 which is pretty sick. Okay. Okay. So, next. Are there any further questions? Council lady Arnold.

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Uh, thank you, Mr. Mayor. I just kind of wanted to make a u this is a bittersweet decision. Um, that land was something that my grandmother worked 10 years at a bar at night to buy and my family was there for many years. I I did look to purchase it myself, but I'm super excited to see other families living there and being raised there. So, um but I also realize I'm going to have to ask for my great vine back. My grandmother's grape vine is still planted there. So, but um I just wanted to say that because I got all nostalgic. So, thank you.

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Okay. So, do we have an amendment on this as well? No, sir. Okay. Any further comments? Okay. Okay. On a motion, we I remind you it takes six votes, the majority of all the members on a motion by Council Lady Howson, second by Council Lady Arnold to approve the final plat of the replat of five lots into eight lots for eight single family residential units and the 800 block of West College and the 1500 blocks of North Michigan and North Kansas avenues. If the clerk will call the role. Councelor Ovesa. Yes. Councelor Cortez. Hi. Councelor Cabin.

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Yes. Councelor Hildebrand. Hi. Councelor Arnold. Yes. Councelor Marco. Yes. Councelor Johnson. Yes. Councelor Kin. Yes. Councelor Herson. Yes. By nine of the affirmative with none negative. Item 33 is passed. Thank you, mayor. Thank you members of the council.

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Thank you. Next, we will go back to item uh we've had all this. We will go back to item four on the calendar. Uh and that is on the south sunset dining. I didn't know it was too bad, but Mr. Mayor Council. Uh so this item has been to infrastructure committee multiple times, been to public safety committee and most recently been to finance committee. Uh so to give some background on the process of how this developed uh we had some complaints of excessive speeding on sunset from the gaffy to Brasher. Uh so we initiated a speed study which we completed in house ourselves. Uh in that speed study, we looked at total traffic volume as well as speed. Uh so our data showed that the uh average daily traffic on that portion of South Sunset is around 8,800 vehicles per day. And the speed, we measured the 85th percentile speed to be 46 mph, which is 11 mph over the posted speed limit. We also retained consultant Lee Engineering. We had them look at three of the intersections in that corridor. So they looked at sunset in Hobs, Sunset in Poe, and Sunset in Brashford. They did a safety review of all three of those intersections. Uh they looked at sight distance, they looked at traffic volume. Uh none of those three intersections warranted a change of intersection control based on traffic volume. Uh they did note that Sunset Poe, it was referred to in the manual uniform traffic control devices as a crash warrant. uh meaning that the level of crashes over a three-year period met a certain criteria.

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Uh there is a provision in the manual of uniform traffic control devices that if you hit a crash warrant but not volume warrants which is the case of that intersection that potentially you could be doing something but not a change in intersection control. Uh so based on that we went back and did some more digging into crash history. Uh so the crashes occurring in that corridor in my opinion are more related to the current configuration of South Sunset as a four-lane roadway. Uh so to give an example of some of the crashes, there's crashes where uh people are waiting to turn left onto a side street and then get rear ended um because they're stopped in a travel lane. Uh there's no opportunity for them to be in a designated turning lane, get out in the flow of traffic. Uh there's been some pedestrian uh involved crashes in that corridor. Um and there's also been crashes related to improper lane changes uh and things of that nature. So based on that, we looked at the potential of doing what's referred to as a road diet on that segment. In other words, changing the configuration to go from a four-lane section to a threelane section, which would be one lane of travel in each direction with a center turn lane. Uh the Federal Highways Administration has criteria on when a four-lane roadway is potentially warranted based on traffic volumes. Uh their criteria is around 12,000 vehicles per day. Uh currently on Sunset, like I mentioned, uh we measure 8,800 vehicles per day average. Uh to put that in perspective, 8,800 vehicles per day is roughly the same level of traffic that is on Atinson from Second to Gaffy. And to get from that level to 12,000 vehicles per day would be something on the order of a several hundred home subdivision to generate

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that many additional daily trips on that corridor. Uh Federal Highways Administration other criteria is peak hour traffic volume. Uh their criteria is 750 vehicles per hour. Lee engineering in their study they measured hourly peak hourly volumes. Uh their highest that they measured was 500 vehicles per hour. Uh again to put that in context to generate 250 additional peak hour trips would take something on the order of a major commercial development something like Walmart, Home Depot, Sam's Club, something major like that. uh advantages to a road diet. Again, based on Federal Highways Administration studies uh that they've published, uh potentially we could realize a 29% reduction in total crashes, a 4 to 5 mph reduction in 85th percentile speed, and a 30% reduction in excessive speed. Uh also in your packet is an excerpt of the uh plans that we've partially developed uh for this diet. Um, we've also got a larger copy if anybody would like to see a larger copy. And I'll stand for questions.

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Question. Council lady Howard. This diet includes bike lanes too, right? Changes two, mayor counselor. Yes, that's correct.

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Any further? Just one comment. You're talking about 8,600 a day. You know, I I know that that is one of the main thorough burners for people to go to work and come back from the air center. And I would hope that in the next 10 years if we're going to be adding anywhere from a,000 to 2,000 more jobs out there. So that's going to increase that that traffic flow on on Sunset because that that is a main thoroughare for people to get to work and go to school.

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Uh Mr. Mayor Counselor, yes, that's correct. And the advantage to this proposed treatment is it's just striking treatment. So the asphalt remains unchanged. So if in the future this develops to where the fourlane is warranted again, we can reverse the process and go back to four lane. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Any further comment? Yes.

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Okay. Um thank thank you Mr. Mayor. Um from adhering this concept initially um my first instinct was some something's off. There was a couple things um 8 years in sitting um in official meetings with cities and counties. Um I was highly concerned because it is a thorough affair and there was no discussion of public hearing or advertising for public hearing or outreach. Um this affects um not only ward uh four but it affects all of us because it is a main thorough affair and and once you actually start altering these you start altering the way other people get to work get to school and and so I I wrote a statement so that I could effectively cover every aspect. I think out of all of it, the fact that there was a lack of public interest and the bike claims, being a young person who rode my bike on that road, um a bike claim with an already chaotic area just really bothered me. But let me go ahead and if I may present what I'd like to present and the reason I pulled it off and I did I did promise council that I would be brief. So, because it is Christmas, so if I may, um, this is a formal statement of objection that I did actually have put on record with the county clerk.

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It's hard to be serious, but anyways, it's I just did ask the county u the city clerk to put this on record just just so we would have it. Um and it says to the honorable mayor and city council of Roville, I would respectfully submit this statement of objection regarding the proposed reconfiguration of Sunset Avenue from McLarane arterial to a threelane crosssection with added bicycle lanes. Traffic volume and functional classification. According to the city commission traffic study, Sunset Avenue currently carries 5,300 to 8,700 vehicles per day. Under the city of Roswell's 2016 comprehensive plan, any roadway with volumes exceeding 5,000 warrants classification as a minor arterial, not a collector. The proposed design reduces vehicular capacity on a roadway that now meets arterial thresholds and will experience increased demand due to ongoing development near Brash Road. Number two, safety and speeding concerns. The traffic study correctly identifies speeding and crash patterns. However, the proposed redesign does not address the root cause insufficient enforcement. Many of the counselors have publicly stated that more more police presence and enforcement are needed on our arterials. Engineering changes without behavioral enforcement may introduce unpredictability, congestion, or unsafe passing behavior. A redesign does not change human behav behavior better enforcement does. Number three, lack of diversion impact analysis. The traffic study did not include a diversion analysis. Reducing sunsets through capacity may redirect may redirect vehicles into adjacent arterials and residential zones, shifting the danger rather than solving it. This omission

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leaves a significant gap in determining the true community impact. And yet, we are being asked to vote on the cheapest option, not the most effective or safest one. Number four, public process efficiency. This measure was placed on the consent agenda, resulting in no public notice and no opportunity for residents or affected businesses to provide input. A roadway redesign of this scale must be subject to full full public engagement, open discussion and transparent evaluation, especially if that is actually the proper procedure for anything noted in the 2016 comprehensive plan. Usually, you actually have to go back and make amendments and then call for a public hearing. And so, um, that's why I'm saying initially I was alarmed because if if if Councilman Johnson had actually brought up these kind of changes for Wyoming, I would have been like, okay, but this is a main thoroughare that affects the whole city, affects the day and the nights and the lifestyle of our all residents from the north down into the south. And so that's why I'm I'm respectfully objecting to the adoption of the proposed restriping and I respectfully request that the council table this and send it back to um send it back to infrastructure to gather more information for full analysis of reclassification and traffic redistributions to public notification and comment opportunities are provided. development impacts from Rasher Road projects are incorporated as we have projects going up and every it seems like every month we have a new um item coming up in our air air center and our industrial area um that are going to be significant and

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I just see this um three lane as actually altering and yes it's going to slow down from it'll slow down because everybody's going to move everywhere else um and also I just really really reject the idea. We have bike lanes coming in um in other areas that I feel are much safer. Uh just the curbs being this high with the pointed edge putting um trapping a bicyclist in between that high curb and moving traffic um that can easily divert into the bike lane or divert into the turning lane. I like I said that's why I actually think um Mr. McCormack, you did a fabulous job. You did exactly what you needed to do to um that you were requested by Councilman Johnson and I and I thank you for that. But I really feel that this is not as simple as four or five meetings. This is um as I've seen them before and Councilman Oroisa can attest to this when they were talking about Richardson in Virginia. These are big discussions that affect our whole city. So, I would like to ask that we consider moving it back to infrastructure to dig in a little deeper, have a little more conversation and um and I yield. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council Councilman Johnson, and then you want to go first. Go ahead. All right. Yeah, first. Hey, uh Mr. a couple questions reading uh this thing that was presented to us at a meeting here today. Um says here that um you know this is the 2014. Do you have this in front of you? This 2016 comprehensive master plan map which does the functional classifications of road chapter 7. Do you have this one?

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Yes, I have. Okay. I'm curious does and can you uh for everyone so we all know I think I know but I don't really know. Could you uh give us your background in uh engineering and any specialties or training you've received?

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Yes sir. Uh so I got my engineering license in 2010. uh background relating to this uh prior to going to city role I worked for New Mexico Department of Transportation as a traffic engineer. So you're a lot of people don't know this again and right I'm not an engineer just well trained parent but actually just being an engineer doesn't mean that you would stamp or work on any type of project but I remember in our meetings in infrastructure I asked you this question if you felt like through training and expertise that you were willing to uh affix your stamp and work on this as a professional yes so you feel like you're qualified in this regard.

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Yes, sir. Okay. Um, is it a requirement of a minor arterial to have four lanes, two lanes on both sides? Is that the definition of an arterial? No, sir. Are there streets in Roswell that are classified as minor arterials on this map that have four that do not have four lanes? Yes, sir. Are there streets on this map that are classified as minor arterials that uh are only two lanes? Yes, sir. Are there streets on this map that are minor arterials that would benefit from a turning lane addition of a third lane potentially?

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So just to be clear, so we're saying that the definition of arterial has nothing to do with the lane composition or size. Okay. So, in your professional opinion as a traffic control engineer qualified, do you think, and I do agree with the mayor, that's a funny joke about the diet. Normally, don't go get the mayor claws at Rosal Donuts. They're fantastic. But, so the word diet's weird, so I just want to throw that in there. Um, and that's the last one for those count. Um, in your professional opinion, is this a approach that you would endorse as a professional engineer and you think it's worth trying?

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Yes, sir. Okay, that's all I have. Would you like to go now? Thank you, mayor.

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Yes. Uh, and you know, I really appreciate your study. I appreciate your concern as well. and you know uh living in this area, listening to all my constituents uh and you know working in traffic myself uh for a couple years and then actually training everybody in traffic for many years. Uh you know I worked the side for quite a while too. Uh I was very aware of the MUTCD all the regulations and I'm very familiar with a lot of things she mentioned. And uh but what you know in traffic impact analysis are usually like a big Walmart. You want to do a traffic impact analysis big home depot. Side threshold assessment is something you want to do when you bring in big businesses which there are big businesses coming which uh we're 50% probably less than the traffic 12,000 versus 8,000 in the traffic count that goes through there. the the ADT average daily traffic and uh you know this being looked at uh 46 mph I mean my gosh that's that's the minimal because you have people ingress and egressing that are and when this study is done it picks up low mileage vehicles coming in and I mentioned this before and that goes into the a the average so 5 10 m an hour 80 60 m an hour and we in your study, did you have vehicles going up to 80 mph?

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Yes, sir. Yeah.

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I mean, that's flat out scary. And I because when I see kids trying to cross there, they because they all go to the elementary school uh on a daily basis except for the weekends. And to see the cars flying through there and the kids trying to cross there, it's it's scary. You have Lions Honda Little League there. Uh the safety of the kids is what I was really uh concerned about. Um people commuting down that road, you know, uh if you want to speed, there's 285 couple of blocks over you and get on 285. You can do 55 65, but this road needs to be 35. And you're uh you're exactly right, um counselor, that people want to go a little faster, they can. When there's four lanes, you can get around and you can fly around somebody. And you and you mentioned also that there's no way it'll hold people from doing the speed limit. One car does 35, they're all going to do 35. And that's just that's just how that's how a road diet works. Uh it's going to be unfortunate for the people that want to do 80 mile an hour because they're going to get behind vehicles that they're going to have to do the speed limit and uh of course we need enforcement and enforcement is a problem. We need enforcement all over town and we know that and we're getting there ultimately on our enforcement. We're we're staffing the policemen. Uh we bottom line there's a lot of initiatives going toward that. Uh and and you know I appreciate the outreach to um you know public comment but uh working in traffic for many years that's very seldom done. Uh it's what's done I mean speed limits are lowered, speed limits are raised, striping has changed. uh public input is usually on new construction and when you have big

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businesses and stuff coming in and uh and the collaboration of the public is very necessary. Uh that's all I have. Thank you. Council Brown, thank you Mr. This might be more of a merit question than for you, but how does this bike path fit into our city plan on bike paths? Uh so in the I forget the year it was done there is a bike pedestrian master plan that was adopted by the city. Uh this has fit inside there. If we turn this into

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uh so the advantage to the design we have is that it'll provide connectivity to the Honda which was identified in that plan as a potential future trail location. Okay. again. And the other thing is, is this about the minimum width that you could put a for currently as it is? But for is a minimum width cuz I know there's no many areas down there. There's no sidewalks at all. Pedestrian problem. Light poles are what 5t off the thoroughare about 5t off the thorough.

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So that looks like a dangerous situation to me as well. I mean, you're the engineer. I don't think you'd be able to road now with light poles 5 ft from the thoroughfare, would you? No, sir. Thank you, Council Alers. So, um, per public input, this you said this one has three committees, correct? Yes.

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So, the public had opportunities to attend. Um, personally, I don't think it's a problem. Atinson is only two lanes and it's always been two lanes and I don't think people have a problem with that. So I don't think this is even a shorter road. So I and I'm happy to see bike paths because that road is impossible for a bicyclist to safely ride on that road. So I I look forward to having Yeah. Or even a pedestrian. Exactly. There's no sidewalk. So that's all. Anyone else? Mr. Just very second time.

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Yes. Thank you. That's why I called the board. Um because I believe um I I'm not questioning that your status as an engineer. I'm not questioning that we have a speeding issue. Um I am going to say that I I think that there was a whole lot left out and I do not believe that this is our best I think it's a lipstick on a pig. But um and I really think we should be planning to expand that saving fiscal responsibly saving. However, what I'm bringing forward is that I believe in um I assault legal on this uh um council hes are you still online with us? Councilor is still with us. No.

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Um I'm here.

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Okay. Oh, good. Thank you. Thank you so much. because um I think for the last seven to eight months the council has um been very uh big on pointing out proper procedure and my point being that since this is an aspect of the master plan as I understand it there is a procedure that we must follow when it comes to items of the master plan. So, what I'm really bringing forth is not a question of your your education or your ability. I think you're spot on. We have a serious issue. I don't think it was the best choice out of the three that you provided us because you provided us with three options and this was just the cheapest. But I would like to ask um Mr. Anima if you can advise as far as is um are we actually following um proper procedure? Um, should we at least be having a public hearing for an item like this? And I mean, I I'll stand down after that.

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At risk of sounding like the lawyer, that's a complicated answer. Uh, generally speaking, in municipalities, it is frowned upon for individual resolutions or decisions about engineering to be made by the counselors. Uh that said, the engineering department does agree with this. So that's a good thing. Procedurally legal worries about peace meal adoption of things because there's nothing really stopping you guys from disagreeing with the engineer in the future. U city ordinance itself says that under the engineer's direction, all roads will be designed with council supervision. Uh so it's one of those two things. Now, as far as the master plan goes, uh, I'd have to look at it more closely, but if it's the engineers determination that's cued within it, I don't have that in front of me to immediately question that.

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I'm sorry. I hope that was sufficiently off. Can you repeat that last part? Sorry about that motion that if the engineers so the as far as the interpretation of the master plan I have to default to the engineering department's reading on my own. Uh and so I'm not sure I entirely agree with what he's saying but I'm not going to question it or have to argue against it. Okay. Thank you. I'll stand down.

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Okay. Anyone else? Uh you know when I look at this I I know that that street is a very heavily traveled street. All the streets north and south in Rob uh almost all of them have some wide spots in it. Especially these sunset has wide and it goes down to real narrow a little bit and um but you know if you go over a block to Union and Union goes is the only street that goes all the way through from Bindo. It goes up to Montana, comes down, goes down all the way down Union, and it comes right up uh to Brasher. If we if we would make sure the if we could have been there before they put the uh solar plants or the solar farm out there and take that all the way to the base, you can you can significantly lighten the load on sunset and have them go down college either if you even have a jog in there because there is a farm there and to go into Monsdale Road and that and take that to the bypass. You could lighten the load a great deal on Union on a road that goes all the way through town and you will still have a couple narrow streets down there by Roswville High between McGaffy, but you can significantly lighten the load on sunset relatively easily by probably have to condemn some of those solar lights that are there if you straight if you make it straight. But you also have to cut uh cut farmland into there and uh by lightening that. But with one significant little

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mile and a half stretch, I guess it's about that, you can uh you can significantly lighten the load on Sunset and uh and on a street that goes all the way through town, not just to Second Street. So, I hope you would put that in your deal and get it in the county's plan that we would be much better off to widen Union than to try to put Washington Street through because Washington gets significantly more traffic and is much narrower streets than Union. And we really need to work on Union being another access to lighten that load for uh dense traffic.

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And um you kind of have a school even if you go on Union, you're going to have probably have a school problem going over to Washington or Lee or whatever it is.

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Monteray is the school. So, you know, I I think I think this is probably seems to me like it's a good idea to work. I travel that road all the time. And I will tell you, I have been passed by people uh going 75 miles an hour and uh it's all hours of the day and um so okay, go ahead one more time.

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So one thing I did mention in the finance meeting was um you have it going back to two lanes on the north side of Rashford. So the bike lane just ends there. I think it would be better to go to two lanes on the south side of Rashford than the bike lane at least in the intersection, not the middle of the road. Yeah, Mr. Mayor, counselor, uh the reason we did that is because of some specifications in the manual uniform traffic control devices. So, that's why we transition in that manner north of the intersection. See, he did study a lot. He knows more than me. That's Mr. Mr. Mayor, one more question. Second time. This should be the last time.

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Oh, no. No, it will be. Um, James, so let's say we both and we go into this strike process. Uh, what kind of mechanism would you be to use to assess the success of this and uh and possibly any unintended consequences? you know, you can't plan your way through everything, but what what kind of process would you use to uh make those determinations?

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Yes, sir. M counselor, we would look at doing a post project study. Uh we wouldn't do that immediately after because you need to give it time to stabilize and develop enough data to judge that against the pre uh project condition. Uh but we would look at replicating our speed study after the project. Any further comment? Okay, we have before us and we have we have representative or Councilman Korn.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I move that we approve uh the sunset road design and construction. Is there a second? Second. Council Lady Halverson, second by Council Lady Halverson. Any further comments? Okay, we have on a motion by Councelor Gord, second by Council Towers to approve item four approval to proceed with sunset road diet designs and construction. If the clerk could call the RO take six vote, are we sure we all get we have six?

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Voice. Okay. All those in favor signify by saying I I opposed. No. Okay. Show council Arnold voting no. And so by vote of eight affirming one in the negative, uh item four has dul we passed. Thank you. Next we go back to Oh, thank you, J. Okay. No, we we go back to item 30. Oh, we did 33. So, we go 35. 35 approval of drought contingency plan. Councilman Hillbrand.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I move that we approve the drought contingency plan for 2025 as presented. Second, I have a motion by council brand second by council cabin with the grout contingency plan. Is there Yes, ma'am. Go ahead. I'm the one that wrote it. Oh, you wrote, buddy. I'm here for questions.

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Yes, for questions. Okay. Are there any questions of anyone on the drought contingency plan? Any anyone for questions? You know, if if you're planning for a drought contingency, why didn't you have something planned for the flood? That's why I wasn't getting paid for that. Let me use that excuse. That's the other end of the spectrum, right? Good. Well, all you had to do was just do a 180. It couldn't be very hard. You just said, "Well, you said no, you had to say yes."

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A couple pipes. Yeah. Okay. No further comments. Okay. On a motion by for item 35, approval of the route contingency plan for 2025. On a motion by Councilman Hillbrand, second by Councelor Hammond. All those in favor signify by saying I oppose. Nine to nothing. Got through that. Thank you for your diligent work on your plan. Mr. Mayor, council Arnold is stepped away. So it's by Oh, eight. Oh, I'm sorry. Zero. She didn't ask to be excused either, so we just have to give her a zero.

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Okay. And we add them 20 or 36. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Okay. Councilman Hillbrand. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, I move that we hold a public hearing to consider adopting proposed ordinance 25-07, an ordinance for the sale of real property. Second. Second. Oh, give it to him. All right. We'll give it We'll give it to the to the last talk. He promised us he wouldn't talk again. Council, don't worry about it.

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A motion by council. Second by councelor Cortez. Is there Okay. Would you like to swear? Oh, we got to swear you in. Raise your right hand, please. Do you solemnly swear the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Yes, ma'am. Thank you,

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Mayor Counselors. So, tonight is ordinance 257, the ordinance for sale of real property for the approval um to enter into a purchase and sale agreement with Jeffrey Miller, the interested party. The city has owned the property there and uh with the old parks department. I think we're all pretty familiar with that one at 212 East 12th Street. Total purchase price shall be 36,000 uh for the 1.25 acres. It was independently appraised at that price. City management has reviewed the site and has no plans to develop that site with one caveat. uh city attorney prepared the revised purchase and sale agreement that uh that put the provision in the contract for the 2-year uh clawback uh in case flood re flood remediation needed to be done in that area. Uh the legal committee passed it 5 to zero on October 23rd and uh went to the consent agend consent agenda for the right to advertise for the public hearing on November 13th. And here we are tonight. So please consider recommending ordinance 257 the sale of real property and approval for the city council to enter into the purchase and sale agreement. Thank you. Okay, we have a motion by council and second by council. Is there anyone that can care to speak on this?

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Anyone care to speak? Mr. Bur, is this the building you still got? Yep, that's okay. We got it all down. Very well documented. I do have a question for uh our city attorney. You still there? I'm mute. Where is the clawback provision in this exhibit one? Yes.

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Okay, you repeat that. Council the clawback provision they was talking about if this name needs to be used for flood remediation. Yes. Where is in the exhibit

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4.2? You'll have to help me out here. Can I send you page? Yes. 4 4.2. Um H584 closing deliverables.

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Yeah. Closing deliverables. A closing seller shall deliver a buyer a duty executed and acknowledge quick claim deed conveying property buyer subject to a revisionary interest for flood control medi uh mediation and property cost and subject to all matters of record. Buyer shall deliver to the city a money order for the purchase price by media. my Okay.

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Is that's for two years? Yes. Is that long enough? I mean, we haven't seen a hell of a lot of activity from FEMA. I I'm just, you know,

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I I I believe if it's longer than two years, our our buyer will go away. He's he's a construction professional and is wanting to take over that property to rehab that building and that property and use it as construction yard and offices. So, we we haven't scared him off yet. Mr. Mayor, I I'll chime in briefly with this one. Right. Uh we always have the ability to take the property for flood control measures simply from the city's authority.

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So as far as legal is concerned that that language it was added by legal committee at their request, but I don't I view it redundant to our ability to condemn property and reflects. Okay. Thank you. Any further questions? Council. Thank you, mayor. Quick question, Todd. Um, all the equipment left on there, the pictures, was that left behind for the purchase also? No. No, sir. It has it has not been considered yet because the purchase uh and sale agreement hasn't been uh executed once once before it gets exe executed. Uh we're taking everything that is ours out. Thank you. Yes.

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Okay. Okay. Any further questions? Do you want to refite to the record that council Arnold came back? Yes, sir. Okay. I did. Thank you. Okay. Okay. On a motion for item ordinance number 25-07, hold public hearing to consider adopting ordinance 25-07 for the sale of real property uh 1212 east uh or two whatever it is on East 12th Street. U on a motion by Councilman Hill, second by councelor Cortez. If the clerk would uh you want a voice vote again?

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No, sir. You want a roll call? Okay. Well, that's good. Okay. If the clerk would call the role, councelorsa, yes. Councelor Cortez, hi. Councelor Cabin, yes. Councelor Hellbrand. I. Councelor Arnold, yes. Councelor Maru, yes. Councelor Johnson. Councelor Korn. Yes. Councelor Halverson. Yes. by a vote of nine in affirmative, none the negative. Uh item ordinance number 25-07 has been disposed of. Thank you.

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Okay. So, next next we have the city manager report.

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Good evening, mayor, members of the council. Uh I'll be brief. $137 million HUD community block grant uh tenative application process and community form roll out uh scheduled for early February. Uh at this point they're still working through their RFP for general contractors at the state level. Um $11.4 million of city flood disaster expenditures have been obligated in FEMA's portal uh for in excess of six months. uh and inspected and authorized projects through that fee. Uh $13.9 million applied for and received um to receive Senate Bill 31 revolving loan funds uh to generate needed cash um for FEMA qualifying expenditures to be reimbursed through this disaster. So those are those revolving loan funds that gives us the cash, we expend them, uh FEMA reimbures them, that pays back the resol revolving loan fund. Um so that is at $13.9 million a plot from um November 25th department's presentations um were made at the local legislators capital hearing uh in consideration of IC IP requests for prioritized city council uh member voted on projects. Uh I'll give you the list from one through five that you voted on. Uh $5 million for flood disaster infrastructure repairs and replacement. $4.5 million construction of four lanes on West Country Club Glove Road. $900,000 citywide drainage study to address future flooding. $1.5 million for our

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station number two for female fire and EMT accommodations improvements. and $260,000 and $260,00011 um for Roswell Transit facility sewer line replacement and 88 restroom uh improvements. Uh as part of that same meeting with local legislators uh on November 25th, special projects uh request for the governor's ICIP capital outlay request uh prioritized by Mayor Jennings $150 million to address critical infrastructure and facilities repair and replacement resulting from the October 19th, 2024 flood disaster 4843. Um it was also noted by our legislators um and discussed at length uh that we are awaiting pending uh reimbursements from FEMA's system with all these obligated projects that have been sitting there for months at a time. And so they have asked that we write a letter um and that they would like to sign it and put pressure on the state level uh to push those FEMA funds through. So, we have written that. Mayor Jennings has signed it. I've signed it. Uh, and it's going to our local legislators and they are very adamant, particularly Senator Eel about getting some pressure on the state to get those FEMA funds released. Um, city engineering and water department, great job. You guys, that's Andrew and James McCorm have collaborated on the application process requesting $10 million from New Mexico Barn Trust Board for aging water line and infrastructure replacement. At this point, uh they've completed the initial application for $10 million and

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submitted uh and have attended the required trainings uh for that money. Uh currently they are in phase two of the grant process completing the required readiness application which is due January 22nd. Official awards for funding will be announced in October of 2026. Uh with regard to our internal audit team, uh Judy and Willis Shmer, uh they have been provided a city laptop and access to the city's accounting system, uh to create pending work product reports to the council. Uh Judy and Willis have both met one- on-one with Councilman Core. uh external auditor Chris Gardner for the fiscal year 2024 audit has been provided all information requested to date. Now that has extended extended extended more requests more requests more requests in the weeks and months as we've gone along. But today he has received everything he has requested uh from our finance and city um in order to complete the fiscally 24 audit and transmittal to the New Mexico office of the state auditor for review and acceptance. That's important. Uh state auditor gets the report. Um then they have to review the report. They don't necessarily have to accept that report. after review they can kick that back and start you at the back of the queue. Miss Alerson,

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are we going to lose like the grant that we got for animal services and stuff? You were mentioning we may not. So, um, he should probably draft it to us by next week. So, wasn't it due December 1st for the grant? Um, I'll have to go back and check that. So, nobody knows the answer to that question except the grantee or the grantor. Can you find out? Yeah. Okay. Thank you. I'll be really

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Yeah, and it's a good point. Um, so let me let me talk about that for a minute. fiscal year 2024 audit pending uh backed up behind a special audit and of course the last year that that particular external auditor um is conducting our audit because we're moving to a new external auditor for fiscal year 2025 which she is in the middle right now. So what that does and what that has done it has suspended the city's bond rating. So right now we don't have a moderating uh because we don't have a fiscal year 24 audit. However, uh the state auditor has extended us uh on the FY24 audit. So we're not in trouble with the state auditor thankfully. Um but we could lose grant funds uh as a result of not having that on it. So pressure is on. Uh we meet with Mr. Garner every week uh every Friday. We'll meet with him again tomorrow. Um I'll continue uh updating you here. I think u uh where we're at now. Everything has been submitted. Uh he is telling us he will have that draft copy to us by the end of next week. Um what happens after that is we have to have an exit c conference with our audit committee. uh and that includes the mayor and it gets submitted to the state auditor's office as I was uh saying it has to be reviewed and accepted um and once it's reviewed and accepted um then it is eventually approved by the state auditor then it comes back to this council this council has to approve it as well um and then you have uh a completed audit at that point Um, citywide fleet management has been

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reorganized under the direct supervision of Abraham Chaparo and Debbie Rener. Uh, Fleio Champions have been identified for every department with city vehicles and heavy equipment to update our inventory and maintenance records. Uh, vehicle titles will remain under the direct custody of Miss Becky Hicks in order to ensure proper segregation of duties and confirmation of asset ownership. Uh the city has recently hired a certified emergency vehicle technician or EBT uh who can also certify EBT work of the mechanics that work under his supervision. Uh this new EBT manager is the only person that is certified in the state of New Mexico to work on and maintain ARF trucks. Uh the city encourages surrounding communities emergency services uh to schedule their required vehicle maintenance and repairs early uh with the city of Roswell in order to lower their current cost incurred by out of state vendors under a monopoly pricing scheme. Um today, Early College High School working with the uh Eastern New Mexico University Rosal at the SEO Grande site uh launched rockets and they will be working with our airport manager and Spaceport America uh in order to celebrate the Centennial uh liquid rocket fuel um first flight by Robert H. Gddard. That'll be March of 2026. Uh, as uh, Mr. Cortez alluded to, Kasa Kids is collecting toys for Christmas. Um, your staff has got us about halfway to our goal of 180 toys. Uh, there's a big box set up at city hall if you'd like to help us with that. And with that, I'd just like to wish each of you and your families a very merry Christmas. Excuse me.

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Did you get everything answered? Yeah, check. Okay. You have more questions than others. Unicorn is good. Was that your pet's project? I want to know. Is there a legal recourse we can take against the auditor if we lose that grant? We will have to pursue those avenues. Mr. Antima, would you tell her a lawyer on the inside can sue anybody? That's right. We'll file some questions. There you go. Better be nice. Cortez, you have one more question.

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You have any more statements? Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you. It's been fun having you here. You've done a good job. Thank you. Happy honor everyone and everyone else. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. All right. Thank you very much.

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