City Council - Regular Meeting

to the city council meeting for November. Councelor Arnold present. Councelor Helder present. Councelor Maru here. Councelor Johnson here. Councelor Kevin here. Councelor Ora here. Councelor Cortez present. Councelor Kin present. Councelor Moore present. And councelor Halverson

present. We can stand up. Councelor Johnson's going to say the pledge and councilman saying the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Dear Lord, we thank you for this day. Thank you for allowing each and every one of us to be here this evening. Father God, watch over as we make decisions, God, may the decisions we made be unto you and unto the people of this city. Lord, we just thank you for our our policemen and our firemen. Keep them safe from all hurt, harm, and danger in our city, local, and state. Father God, continue to bless our government and the decisions that are made. Touch our minds, our hearts, and our understanding that we might agree this evening in the name of Jesus. Amen. Amen.

Thank you. Um, I've had several birthdays remind me. Yesterday was Chad Cole's birthday. Molly's birthday [Music] [Applause] to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to Happy birthday to you. [Applause] Mayor presents. I move to approve the agenda for November 13, 2025 regular city council meeting with the following changes. Move item number 27, which is ordinance 25x, an ordinance for the sale of real property to the consent agenda to be placed after item 14. Second.

I'm not finish. Excuse me.

Don't call yet. Item 27 should reflect that it was assigned for ordinance number 25-07. Page 103 in your packet which is the minutes page 103 line 19 under the vote. It showed how we ran with a yes. I should have regret no. And on page 107, line 27 where it says counselor, that should say councelor horn. And on page 108, line 43, remove the first main emotion.

Second. I have a motion from councelor Helen and second by councelor Kevin. We need the Do we need a roll call? A roll call. Councelor Arnold. Yes. Councelor Hbrand. Hi. Councelor Marubo. Yes. Councelor Johnson. Yes. Councelor Cabin. Yes. Councelor Orza. Yes. Councelor Cortez. Hi. Councelor Kin. Yes. Councelor Moore. Councelor Herson. Yes. Did you get it?

I'm sorry, but I see John. [Music] I want to see that belongs up to you. Can you make that adjustment without? Yes, sir. I can. What page number is that? Uh, that's going to be page 108. Um, roll call vote. Daryl Johnson via phone. should be will cabin vehicle. Okay, now I need a motion. Item 15, airport updates, Bobby Thompson.

Well, good evening, council member. So, tonight I have a number of things to report to you. We've been very active at the airport. I'll start with the United Airlines update. Uh we've had multiple conversations with these folks already. Of course, the contracts were signed. Uh they'll have their first visit with us Monday and Tuesday of next week. Uh they'll be bringing in some of their station people to look over space requirements, equipment requirements, and get a general understanding of our terminal and how it operates. Uh we'll also be working with them. They'll be setting up training and hiring which they will do. They will start the training in December. It will go on for two months with the first service day being February the 17th. And they are already selling tickets. So, we're glad we're able to do a lot of local hiring. We're very pleased about that. And of course, they'll be bringing a lot of good economy in and creating some competition. Uh the next item I'd like to discuss and please feel free to ask any questions as they go along because I do have member items. Uh next item is building 91. Building 91 was an old fiber hanger on the airport. Uh we looked at that building in in 2024 fiscal 2024. the airport spent a little over $180,000 in maintenance on a building that was supposed to be maintained by the tenth. Uh now, in that same time, the revenue was $60,000. Uh as we explored and looked at that building, we determined that it made no sense for the airport to continue doing that. Uh we talked to the tenants, the tenants decided that they would like to purchase that building. Uh so we had an appraisal done by an appraiser. that does airport projects. The appraisal came back at $250,000.

So, they're still interested in the purchase of that building. I've talked to the FAA and because there would be a land lease involved that would still benefit the airport. We're not giving up any airport land, which because we're fedally obligated, of course, that's a critical step. What will happen with that is there will be a land lease. We can do a 20-year land lease on that with a couple five-year options. Uh we've been working on the language of district of Wayne. We met with them again yesterday and we think we've got that fine tuned so the group can make the final decision on that restaurants. Two two questions. Yes sir. What was the 180,000 specifically spent on?

All kind of maintenance items. and a long list of maintenance items on the building from roofs and walls and paint uh highback systems just a number of things. Now there was flood damage as you know to that building. Um part of what we will do is we will still be taking care of the flood damage to the building. We feel that is our responsibility to do that for the tenants. That should not be very even in the purchase situation. Was part of that money spent for electrical? I'd have to go back and look. I don't remember specifically.

Well, I recall hearing a story that the city decided to pull some equipment off the roof of the building and they did so but forgot to check and make sure all the electrical was turned off to that unit and they shorted out a bunch of electricity that came went down into the building. But I'll let you do do diligence on that. Yeah, I'll be happy to research that because I say the work was done up a couple years ago. So, I'll dig into that and bring it back to you before your time. I understand that.

So, the restaurant, we've had a great deal of difficulties with the restaurant. Uh when they're there, they do very well. Uh they serve a good product. Uh they take care of things. Uh and and I'm not sure what the dates were, but uh the city actually purchased all the equipment in the restaurant. So, the city does own all that restaurant equipment. Uh we recently had to replace the refrigerator in there because some damage was done to that by a person that was in their employment for very short period of time. But the problem is they are totally dependent on air travel traffic, which is ridiculous for an airport the size of ours. uh when the people come and go and with just right now just the two American flights a day, those people are at six o'clock in the morning. Well, guess what? They're not open at 6:00 in the morning. So, they're only open for a single flight right now. And those people are wanting to get on their plane or they're getting off their aircraft and leaving. One of the American flights comes in after 10 at night and they're not open. They do nothing to market the facility. They don't reach out to the over 300 people that work at various places on the airport. Uh, and if they've got an activity going on at the college, which they also serve the food at the college, they just close the restaurant. So, we're constantly getting complaints about the fact that you can never depend on them to be open. And some of those complaints quite honest. They aren't very friendly. So, I would like to look at options on the restaurant. And I've been talking to other restaurant owners and see what we can do. uh even to the point where we may come back to you uh to talk about the airport taking over the running of that since the airport city already has the equipment anyway uh to keep it open longer hours. Uh the bar which is their biggest money maker is rarely open.

Sometimes it goes for two weeks without meeting. So we definitely need to do something. Uh they don't seem to be interested as a revenue source. The only revenue they pay is a grant that's about to run out. In fact, it runs out in January that pays the airport 500 a month. And that's the only revenue that the airport gets from that operation. So, we're very disappointed that it's not working. We think it can work, but it's got to be marketed to a lot more people than folks getting off an airline.

So, are they not paying a a rent or is that $500? The agreement that that was signed at that time was a revenue share if the revenue reached a certain amount or for this grant that they had which they're not actually paying. It's paid through a grant not even their money. That's the only money that comes to the airport because they never hit the revenue numbers because they remove them. Walker music is paying. Yeah. It's kind of a cycle. It's five times what we used to get though. Yeah. Well, let's make it 20 times and we spend 400,000. That's a hell of a return.

Oh, yeah. That's that's some math to tell you have to explain to you for sure.

So, if I'm understanding, it's Summit Foods that runs that. Correct. And they they also run the cafeteria for the university. Correct. We've had nothing but problems there at the university as well. Opening up only during lunch and that's it. So I I agree we probably do need another source. I think it could become a revenue source. Plus just from a public relations standpoint, it' be nice not to have people yelling at us weekly because the restaurant's not open. Correct. Who else is that one of the Sy's liquor licenses? Yes. Okay. So we kind of do what we want to do.

Then the other thing that's been very busy uh as you all remember going back again a while back uh you had decline from the TSA which now the funds have been paid. Uh there was one item left that had to be accomplished in that settlement. Uh that item is currently being worked on. Thankfully uh Jeff and the team over at IT are working very hard on that. Uh the completion date on that is November the 19th and uh it is telling us that it'll be complete at that time or it's slightly before and it has to do with improved access controls to all gates and all doors to all buildings. So it's no small project and uh it has been working very hard and we do appreciate that. FEMA as they say Elvis has left the building. Uh we did a walkthrough on the 10th of November uh which was FEMA's last day in building 611 which was the old department of health building. Uh so they left unfortunately they didn't leave any bags of money behind but uh at least they did pay their rent. So then I would like to go on to uh the building 1081. Now building 1081 was the office building for the former bus plant that was on the airport. uh and it been empty for a considerable amount of time. It's actually a very nice building. It's a very large building over 60,000 square feet. So, with all the things that you're aware of with the museum not having a facility right now in town, not having a building in town, uh we're getting that building ready for them. Uh he had previously voted to provide them rent to stay where they are through the month of December. So it was important not only to get the building ready for them to get the building back in order so it can be rented out to others as well so that we

can turn an empty building into a revenue source. So some of the things that have already been done uh we completed plumbing in the section for them. Uh we worked on the highback system and got that completed. There's been a complete cleaning of all the ducks. Uh we have a quote. They haven't started yet, but the whole fire suppression system is being reworked and rebooked at. Uh shops doors is scheduled to work on all the doors and windows to make sure they're all secured. We're rekeying all the sections that the museum would occupy. Uh they will only be on about a third of the building downstairs, not in the upstairs section. Uh we're working and replacing all the lights and all the ceiling tiles and then once all that work is completed, we'll do another cleaning of the entire facility. Uh and as I mentioned, it's good to get that building back in good order to create a revenue source. And with all the things that are proposed and all the things being done, it's slightly over $86,000. But we do think it's going to be a great place for the museum to get back on their feet. Madam chair.

Yes. Can I ask a question? That that building uh Oh, I'm sorry. [Music] as the uh museum people, the not necessarily the executive director, but the uh the the board, I guess you call them, have they had a chance to go look at it and and see if it's uh suitable or or are we just saying here in the building, come in and do your thing? And it's and it's not a public museum. It'll be storage and restoration.

Okay. But we're happy. In fact, we do have a tour on Tuesday coming up. So any of the board members that would like to join that tour is certainly welcome to. I'm talking about the the board from the museum. No, no. I was the board the museum board is welcome to join. Okay. Thank you. We haven't done a lot of touring yet because of all the disruption with all the maintenance items going on. Okay. Thank you. Then the next item I had to tell you about uh I believe in the past we had mentioned to you that because the races are such a world excuse me I want to go back to the to the building you said you've done $86,000 in repairs we've done some of those repairs not all those are complete at this point

but we approved in the last council meeting $45,000 it's been over a period of time who's paying for the repairs and we approved as from from the general ederal fund to pay 45,000. Who's paying those above the 45,000? So, at this point, the airport has been paying uh and there is a project that museum is uh budgeted to pay on uh I can't remember was that HVAC or No, no, the airport paid for the HVAC. Okay.

Yeah. The only thing the museum will be required to do from their end uh would be based on the security cameras that they want to install and and then any uh aesthetics aesthetics that they care to do. That's a little different than what the ordinance that we passed or the resolution or the spending or what whatever was called. I can go back to the minutes in here. That's different than what you asked us to approve last time. And I think last council meeting. Yes, sir. I think bear in mind those the 87 is partial of projection projected correct cost not actual cost.

But I'm just saying you asked us to approve $45,000 out of the general budget. Now she's saying we don't have to do that. We learned today. Pardon? We learned that today, the $87,000 program, but Bobb's just saying that the airport enterprise fund is paying for all that work. So, we will not have to pay the 45,000 that we approved last council meeting. Yes, that's correct. Is that what you're saying? Wasn't some of that to pay the rent where they're currently at? 45,000 was the whole package was 100,000 or 80 some thousand something like that and it was for two months renting at the facility that they're in. Yeah.

Yes. And then the rest of it was what I want clarification is who's paying for the improvements. And so to be clear u that that paid the rent where they're at. Um but also they would be paying for uh security camera system. That's it. Yes sir. So the rest of rest of the restoration is going to be paid by Yes. Okay. Clarification. Yes. I did have a question about security cameras. Don't didn't they just pay for one in the location right now? Can they not move that over?

I believe those security cameras already existed. They may have needed to be connected. I believe the the security camera system existed when they moved. So does Jeff Jeb, do you know? Sorry. I do. Um, she was saying we had to maintain stuff on both sides until they were completely moved over. So, we were going to have to put new ones in the new site. So, they Sorry. Caroline was stating that they had to have active monitoring in both both sides until they get completely moved over. So, we have to keep what's existing up and get some new ones in the other side. But, we were going to do minimal

just to cover the main entrance as an exist. and then we can move the over. Okay, that makes sense. Okay, thank you.

And then of course as a fally obligated airport, there will be a lease agreement. Uh in the lease agreement, uh the rent is $750 a square foot versus the $12 for currently paying a square foot. So there will be some savings there and of course city building city lease. So then uh because of the activity of the interest that was raised during the air races, I've been having lengthy conversations with the international arobatic championship group that has regional competitions or national competition and world competition. Uh they're having a board meeting here in about three weeks in Oshkosh. uh and they are looking at starting to hold those events here in Roswell. Of course, it'll be a different time of year. They're looking uh like early spring, March, April time frame uh for their events. Uh and it's a whole new different set of folks and different set of attention and worldwide recognition.

Just be careful March and April. It's super windy. I remember those adjustments. So, they'll be doing some site visits and we'll be talking some more with them and working through those issues.

Uh then on last Friday, uh Omar Gonzalez and myself went to Albuquerque to the state aviation conference that was held uh at the DOT building up there. Uh it was a good meeting. We learned a lot. Probably the best thing we learned is they have money to spend. So, we're doing our best to help him with that. Then, uh, sadly, uh, on the 7th of November, we did a final walk through with the idea folks with that great building that's at the airport. Uh, and it is a fantastic building. Uh, so we did a final walk through on that. Uh, we are having it cleaned this month. Uh, I mean it was generally in pretty good shape, but just some things needed done, a little bit of painting where things were taken off walls, that sort of thing. Uh, but we'll have all that done. Uh, and then we hope to have some new tenants soon. We talk to a couple different entities about potential rent. We'll be back to you with some information on that as well. And then if the ladies can help you with some photos. So, one of the requirements that we have with an air carrier airport, of course, is well trained fire departments. So, the fire department here, they're fantastic to work with. I can tell you that. And they're very smart and they're very, very cautious about how they spend money. So, in the past, to get the folks trained, they would have to go to other cities to do live fire training, which is a requirement. So we talked about it and this time they did the fire live fire training here. Now the last time they did it and they trained 22 firefighters. They went to Levik. It cost roughly $900 per firefighter, not counting their travel

expense, their overtime to go and now that same cost is escalated to about $1,200 per person. So they said, "Let's do it in Roswell." So, they did all the research and we did it in Roswell. We've done it this week. In fact, three nights this week. Uh, and what it cost was $17,000. And they trained the entire department. So, about 75 guys got trained on their home turf, on their home equipment, and no travel cost, no overtime cost. So, that was an excellent thing. We're happy to do that. And in the future, that train was so fine, we can actually sell it to other communities to bring them here. So, let's just kind of go through some of these pictures. You can see some of the things that went on. Uh, it is, like I say, live fire training and they use propane. They are able to train the entire department, which is just awesome, which they haven't been able to do previously. And what was this helium?

Oh, and by the way, you may recognize one of these firefighters in this last photo. Excellent. This was at the uh fire training center on. Okay. So, it worked very well. It saved a lot of money and got done what we were required to get done. only we were able to train like I say the entire department instead of a portion of the department and a whole lot more money. So we're very happy about that.

And then my last item is just I'd like to say thank you to council. Uh as of this month uh I started as your interim director a year ago and I just like to say thank you for the opportunity and I enjoy being here. Thank you. Any other questions? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. We appreciate that. Next on the agenda is the Main Street Roswell brief report. [Music]

Uh good afternoon, Mayor Pro Tim Herson and city councilors. For those of you that don't know me, my name is Barbara Gomez. I'm the executive director for Main Street Roswell and Main Street Roswell in conjunction with the city of Roswell coordinated the 24 and 25 UFO festivals. Uh we want to thank you right now for the opportunity to present to you the 2025 UFO Festival report for the event that was held from July the 3rd through July the 6th. This year was the first year that we have held the festival on a Thursday. And the reason that we did that was because the city of Roswell wanted to have a drone show and they received funding to be able to have the drone show. So we moved some things around to be able to have the drone show on Thursday. And that Thursday we probably had more people in the Main Street District right within that area in front of the courthouse in Pioneer Plaza than we've ever had. It was a great really great uh drone show. uh a collaborative group of UFO a collaborative UFO group was formed with Main Street Roswell with and the board of Main Street Roswell taking the lead and with the assistance and guidance of city city councelor Juliana Halerson and the city of Roswell special events supervisor TJ Conjurs and staff. This group also consisted of the international UFO museum, Galacticon, Rosaly Record, uh, Miniatures and Curious Collections Museum. Um, we had we held about 8 to 10 group meetings were held from February of 2025 till June of 2025 with this group. The this year the group chose the theme un uh unclassified. So um she's already put the the the point up there. So, it shows you all of

the people that helped us. Also, uh Chavis County, Chap Keep Chap Chavis County Beautiful also provided uh trash and cleanup services for us. We also hired uh somebody to do the cleanup on the streets and all the areas including the areas where the parade was held. Um this year uh as we did last year the uh event was we was held on 7:00 at Main Street starting on Fifth Street and going all the way to Alamita. We had two stages one on the north side on Fifth Street which ended up being a really great stage with lots of music and also on the south side in front of in front of Rotoro Bravo. We wanted to keep um keep entertainment going throughout the whole district. Um and going on to the next slide, please. Uh with the we received funding, but with that funding, and I'll go into the funding in just a little bit, we did nationwide advertisements. The city received extensive coverage across local, regional, national platforms, including prominent publications. Um and our marketing efforts spanned social media, radio, billboards, hotels, posters, and banners. Additionally, there were numerous interviews and mentions on television stations such as KOB and national news networks and international podcasts. And the day of the event, over the weekend of the event, um I personally was stopped by a number of people that were here internationally. Some of them were here from Canada, some of them were here from Paris and they wanted interviews as well. So that was a really cool opportunity for us. We also had interviews with uh KOB TV out of Albuquerque. Uh funding of the event. Uh first of all, I do want to thank the city of

Roswell for assisting us with the funding and uh we always appreciate that. And with that funding, uh, we're able to do a lot of free events throughout the whole event. Uh, so Main Street received, uh, sponsorship of $50,000. Galactic Con received $10,000. The Miniature Museum received $2,500 and the Roswell Daily Record received $10,000. With that funding, again, we were able to provide a lot of free entertainment. Um everything that was up and down the streets, everything from the stormtroopers uh to um steel walkers, propetron, um you name it, we we had it. So uh we also had on the south side we had uh inflatables and we have water slides and of course music throughout uh the whole area. So, we had a great time with the, you know, been able to do what we needed to do to make the event more exciting for everyone. Um, the next one will show you that, uh, of course, we made, we hosted seven walks of Main Street. Um, also on the Main Street District, uh, on the south side of it, we held a car show that was very wellreceived. We also had a a cornhole tournament that was held um on the corner of uh Maine and uh Walnut at the auto what is it called? Auto get the name wrong call it auto zone but it's not advanced auto at the advanced auto location. We also held the uh human costume contest and the UFO parade. And we and Galacticon also hosted a very popular pet costume contest. I think they probably had more entries than anybody else. Everything from dogs to lizards. So very interesting. A snake. I don't know how you dress a snake up, but

they did. Um and uh along with all the friend uh familyfriendly events that we had, uh the Galactic Con brought in the the uh internet sensation, the flying saucer car. And again, like I told you, the Roswell director assisted the city of Roswell with the the drone show. The city of Roswell also hosted the alien chase uh run. Uh Rozo Museum and Curious Collectibles hosted a free community trekar made recycled materials for free as well for people to come in and make all kinds of uh items. Um let's see. As far as attendance, the International UFO Museum hosted a number of UFOs during the three days and continue to host daily tours uh through the museum. They reported almost 10,000 visitors throughout the museum during that weekend. That's a lot of people. So, as far as attendance goes, right now, we really don't have a really great way to count people. Uh, but we starting with an estimation of 10,000 with the UFO Museum and going on from there with all the people we had throughout, we're guesstimating any 10 to 20,000 people come during the weekend. And again, like I said, 10,000 come to the UFO Museum. Um, and I again want to tell you that we are united for success right now. We really are. We work with TJ, we work with that group, we work with Juliana and with our other partners here in town. And I believe that the collaborative nature of this event is what has made it successful and very well attended. you know, the coordination with the city of Roswell, you know, made has made this transition from a cityrun event to a community run event, a smooth transition. So, we're

really thankful for that. So, thank you to TJ and their group and everyone else. So, I do want to say a big thank you to the city of Roswell, uh, Chap County Sheriff's Department deputies and staff. And I also want to do a special shout out to city council councelor Juliana Halerson. If you've not seen her graphics, she's the ultimately the best graphic artist in town. And so, uh, she does a lot for us, um, pretty much at at no cost to us at all. So, thank you. And I also want to thank the many departments uh within the city uh that step up to assure that what that we had what we needed including uh TJ Conor special events supervisor um you know she was truly a huge part of this team success. She was available professional and willing to help with a good attitude and a smile. Many others include Chad Cole, city manager, uh Mr. pass city attorney uh Amanda Dickerson with the guest services supervisor Jim Sex Sexy. I have to tell you that man is a saint. He is the nicest person ever. He did so many maps for me and I kept saying no no move it here, move it there, make it bigger, make it smaller and he is just great to work with. So I really appreciate him. The sanitation streets department, Roswell Police Department, Roswell Fire Department. We also want to thank Mayor Tim Jennings of and the city of Roswell, the finance committee, legal committee, and city councilors for your overwhelming support of this event. Um, as of as the 2025 committee, we appreciate your support and then we hope that you agree that the event was wellrun, well attended, and that the city of Brazil and Chap County were overwhelmingly represented as the as the home of the internationally known UFO festival.

Thank you.

Thank you so much. I appreciate everything Main Street does and I just want everyone to know they're all volunteers so they're all doing this in their heart. If you haven't been to the Oklahoma Festival, I highly recommend you go because it is so much fun especially if you want to contest or costume and I'm glad you recognized TJ Amanda and even Sarah because they're with the special events with the city and they do an amazing job and I don't think they'll take the credit they deserve because they are easy to work with. Yeah, they are easy to work with. And we had a number of meetings specifically outside of the UFO committee. We had specific meetings just with CJ and TJ and her group and uh you know really figured out what we wanted to do, how we wanted to collaborate all of this. So we are really appreciative sexy. He's he sits in his office and he's quiet but he's helping possible.

I have so many maps. I mean, for every single event, he creates the most beautiful maps, and it really helps me whenever I'm signing, whenever I'm requesting closures of a DOT highway. They appreciate those maps. Um, so that's that's a great help as well. Thank you. Comments, any questions? All right. Thank you. Thank you.

Okay. Next on the agenda, Kina release the award for the 2025 project excellence awards to James McCormick and [Music] Mayor Pro Tim, city council members. Uh the Catalina Munoz Award for 2025 Project Excellent Award uh was awarded to James McCormack and Andrew Valdez on behalf of the city of Roswell uh and its wastewater collection line emergency response during the presidential disaster declaration 4843 designation response. Um to give you a little background, uh the award philosophy for the Catalina Munos uh award highlights projects that surpass expectations to improve community lives, demonstrating a vision for long-term sustainability and the health of communities they serve. A little background on Cataloo Catalina Muna's uh project excellence award uh is provided for infrastructure projects and provided technical assistance to rural community communities across New Mexico through organizations including the rural community assistance corporation. Uh so to give you a little background on our own people and our own departments, um water and wastewater is very well known throughout the state of New Mexico for their expertise. Uh and they provide that expertise uh and help other communities with their wastewater treatment uh and provide that free advice and guidance to a lot of our rural communities. Um, Catalina herself helped communities replace aging infrastructure, secure funding, and navigate complex reporting requirements. Her dedication to working with

volunteers and community members, often going above and beyond expectations exemplifies the spirit of service that drives transformative infrastructure projects. And I think that uh is a perfect description for both Andrew uh Valdez and James McCor and the teams that work with them and for them. So congratulations guys. Thank you. [Applause] Come up here and take the picture.

Yeah. I don't want to be in the picture. You don't want to be in the picture.

James, [Music] I'm going to go down. [Laughter] Oh, thank you. Thank you. I don't know if I can get all of them in the back in here. Just make sure you get

Thank you. Wait, wait, wait. It's for Oh. [Applause] All right. Next on the agenda, employee out of state travel. Is Chief Bon here? Is he chief? cut in front of Chief Mayor Counselors. Just wanted to run a quick report, give you an update on the water rescue team. Mr. Chad Cole asked us a couple several months ago to look into building this water rescue team. Uh so we put it we we got a group of guys from the fire department, group of guys from the police department, uh put a list together and uh got them signed to go to San Antonio to do a training with TICS, one of the top water rescue schools uh in in the country. And uh so we're sending seven lieutenants and five truck engineers uh along with four PD officers. I'll hand over the list of names to to Miss Simone, but I just want to give you guys a rundown on the water rescue team. It is moving forward. We will have a team of 16 initially and then we we'll look to to build on that. Uh we we were awarded a an LMTV, a big water rescue truck from the mun municipal league. Uh so we now have that in our in our fleet. Uh so that we we can not commit fire trucks to to so that's so that that was a big start.

We'll also got some more donors. We're looking at receiving a a Zodiac boat uh to attach to the LMTV. So, we'll have a fully functional water rescue team. Uh they'll be leaving in January. There'll be two two classes. Uh so, uh one will one will be January uh the 23rd. Uh the other one will be February the 9th. So, we'll we'll be heading that direction and have a fully mobile water rescue team. So, if uh has reached out, they're they're doing the same thing. And so, we'll have a a mutual response with with both us and Rios. It's just kind of a rundown of the out of state travel and water rescue team. So, the two classes are the same people both or different people. It'll be the same boat,

same people. Yes, same people for for uh this team will stay the same. Uh was also getting awarded the same boat. They've got the same LMTB that we got. So, all the all the trains will coordinate with each other. Reos will open up some trainings for us. We'll send our team over there to train with them as well. So, that's what I was going to ask. So, I know we talked about and once they're trained, are we able to train them here to train our people? There there is an awareness class that we could have here, but we just don't have water. Okay.

Yeah. And one of the other things that that we need to point out is uh Clint Caldwell and Shelley Bell for fronted the cost for this class, $22,000 class to send all of our personnel. And then uh we also partnered with Eastern New Mexico University to reimburse that cost. So um that all all of that class and the training will be uh free of charge for us. So so that it's a good opportunity and thank you to the college and and show if I could get Dr. Paddle and Todd Decay uh which we all know from the community uh reached out to me and said uh hey we've got some training monies. We'd love to partner up with your uh city uh to provide trainings. Uh we connected Todd and Clint uh and Shelley Bell and our HR department because they're doing a lot of trainings nowadays. They just finished a supervisor training. Um but it dubtailed in nicely and we we got to pay for the smart rescue training for fire department.

Any other questions? Thank you. Thank you. Good stuff.

Good evening, counselors. Our out of state travel coming up. The first one we have on the list that you have already happened back in October and it was on the last council. I don't know why she put it on this council. She even put a note previously, but notifying again. So, uh, we're notifying you again. They went SWAT training, SWAT competition. Second one, officer Robert Cardiel, Roberto Dela Cruz are two of our new traffic division officers. They're going to CDR training, which the CDR allows them to uh pull diagnostics out of vehicles that have been in crashes so we can pull all the crash data out of the vehicle. So, they have to be certified in that as far as part of their also reconstruction uh duties. The third one, Sergeant Trong Wention, and Captain Joe Smith. They're part of our use of force um group uh panel and they're going to a use of force summit in Connecticut December 2nd through December 4th to gain knowledge and insights from this conference to enhance the ability to evaluate incidents and ensure compliance policy and law and contribute to the department's ongoing commitment to transparency and accountability as members of the youth use of force board which also in the long run the board reviews everything and comes up with training to keep this losses and stuff at Stanford.

How they do in the SWAT competition? I'm sorry, ma'am. How did they do in the SWAT competition? Uh, pretty good. I can't remember what place. They didn't win it, but they're up against usually those the Texas ones, Dallas, San Antonio, Houston, the big city teams, and they're usually always in the top five or six. So, they're they're pretty squared away. Any other questions? Thank you. Thank you. All right. Next on the agenda is fellow participation. You only have one person sign up. Nancy Fleming.

I sort of have my answer already answered. Um but my name is Nancy Fleming. I am on the Rosal Museum Board of Trustees. And as such, um I do feel it would be my due diligence if I didn't come and respectfully ask that the board of trustees and the city uh staff um meeting the museum directors uh and staff get to uh see where they are going to move their staff and their collections uh currently in their care. Um, the one thing that I would uh kind of add to that hopefully is that we really would love to have a formal inspection of the building regarding asbestous as securities. I that might already be needed for insurance. Um, but also because of our continuing accreditation purposes, it really needs to be a very special place for our special staff and our special collections. So, uh, thank you for scheduling something on Tuesday. We will show up.

Okay. Thank you. Okay. Now we're up to a regular agenda public hearing 2019. Council me. Thank you madam. I propose that we hold a public hearing and vote on restaurant B for a beer, wine, and spirits license with onremise consumption for Linrass Thai LLC doing business as Linrass Thai Cuisine located at 610 South Main Street, Roswell, New Mexico. So, so this is public hearing. I guess we swear everyone in. Do you want to swear everyone in for all the public hearings? Yes.

They're coming up at the same time. If anyone is going to speak regarding number 19, number 20 or number 21. Do you want number 22 in there too? Yes. Should we put number 22? Yes. Swearing for number 22. Okay. So number 22. So anyone speaking on 1920, 21 or 22, please stand and she um our clerk will swear you in. Can you please raise your right hand? Do you solemnly swear the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Thank you. Thank you. So, we have a a motion by council Helen Brand and a second by council. Madame Mayor Prom, Mr. protest. The uh you guys remember these uh the way that these hearings work is if you the licenses are granted by default unless you make a negative finding based on the record presented. So generally speaking, if nobody speaks in the negative, you guys could just vote right away. Anyone have any questions? Anyone wish to speak on this? Okay, I guess we can take a roll call. Councelor Arnold.

Yes. Councelor Helenbrand. Hi. Councelor Kubo. Yes. Councelor Johnson. Yes. Councelor Cavin. Yes. Councelor Ora. Yes. Councelor Cortez. Hi. Councelor K. Yes. Councelor Moore. No. Councelor Halverson. Yes. Motion passes 9 to one. Thank you. Okay. Next item on the agenda is number 20. Thank you, Madam Protemp. We want to hold move to hold a public hearing a vote on beer for a beer, wine, and spirits license with on premise consumption only patio service from Backdraft Barbecue LLC located at 301 North of Railroad Avenue.

Second. Okay, we have a motion by councelor Helder and second by councelor. [Music] Anyone anyone wish to speak on? Does anyone in the any counselors have any questions? Okay, I guess we take a roll call. Councelor Arnold, yes. Councelor Helen Brren, hi. Councelor Maro, yes. Councelor Johnson, yes. Councelor Cabin, yes. Councelor Odopea, yes. Councelor Cortez, hi. Councelor Korn, yes. Councelor Moore, no. And councelor Halverson,

yes. Motion passes 9 to1. Thank you. Next item of the agenda is number 21. Thank you M or Jim. I'm going to hold move to hold a public hearing a vote on a beer wine spirits license with onremise consumption for JAL LLC doing businesses lotos Mexican kitchen located at 21103 North Main Street. Second. Any questions, discussion on this item? All right, please. Councelor Arnold, yes. Councelor Henbrand, hi. Councelor Marupo,

yes. Councelor Johnson, yes. Councelor Cavin, yes. Councelor Autoesa, yes. Councelor Cortez, hi. Councelor Horn, yes. Councelor Moore, no. Councelor Herson, yes. didn't pass by the one clerk. Who was the second? [Music] No.

Okay. Next item on the agenda is item number 22. Council hold. Thank you. Mad for Tim. on move to hold the public hearing to consider adopting proposed ordinance 25-06 amending chapter 11 of the Roswell city code regarding flood damage protection

second [Music] counselors uh this item is ordinance 256 uh to amend chapter 11 of the Rosal city code regarding flood damage protection ction. Uh the city of Roswell had a community assistant visit from EMA personnel a few months ago where they audited our flood plane administration activities. Uh during this visit, required updates were identified to the city flood damage prevention ordinance to enable the city to remain compliant with national flood insurance program regulations. The proposed changes are directly from language in the code of federal regulations, title 44, and FEMA guidance documents. Uh note these proposed changes will not affect the current process or procedures in flood plane administration and legal committee recommended approval 4 to zero at the meeting on September 25th, 2025. And if you'll humor me, I'll quickly go through uh the red line proposed changes. Uh starting on page five of the ordinance, which is page 186 of your packet, about halfway down the page, that's just a grammatical correction uh saying reduce or eliminate as opposed to reduce to eliminate. The next change is on page eight. of the ordinance page 159 of your packet towards the bottom of the page. Uh rewarding that uh portion of the paragraph and removing the map number which was inaccurate wasn't our current map number. the next page, page nine of the

ordinance, page 160 of your packet towards the top of the page, adding the word flood plane uh to that sentence. And FEMA personnel wanted that added to reflect the title of our permit document. So, they wanted to say flood plane development permit because that is the title of the permit document that we issued for development flood plan. Uh, page 10 of the ordinance 161 of your packet, paragraph six, uh, adding Federal Emergency Management Agency to the list of people that we would have to notify if we were to alter or relocate a waterway. Uh, paragraph 8, just grammatical correction when base flood elevation data has not been provided versus is not been provided. Page 11 of the ordinance 162 of your packet uh top of the page uh instead of saying applies for conditional firm revision through FEMA uh stating completes all the provisions required by code of regulations 6512. Um, the intent of this is if we were to approve a significant that would change the water surface elevation of the base flood by more than one foot, it's not enough that we just notify FEMA that we're doing it. We have to go through all the steps to give FEMA approval. Uh, paragraph A again adding flood plane to reflect the title of the permit document that we issue. And same change in paragraph B about the middle of the page flood plane to reflect the title of the permit document. [Music] Next change is on page 14 of the

ordinance, page 165 of your packet, paragraph three, enclosures, adding language to that. It states closures are usable solely for parking vehicles, building access or storage in an area other than a basement. Uh this section is referring to uh structures which are more prevalent on coastal areas where uh the bottom portion of the structure is like a garage or a place for parking and then the actual uh housing unit is elevated above. Uh so this paragraph is stating that uh in those situations the enclosure portion of structure could be below the base elevation level but it would have to be usable solely for parking access or storage and paragraph A underneath that adding uh on separate walls into that. So we say a minimum of two openings on separate walls. The intent of that is that if we were to approve an enclosure that was subject to flooding, it would have to have openings to allow flood waters to flow through the structure. That's the intent of that portion. Uh, next updates are on page 15 of the ordinance, page 166 of your packet, paragraph B, uh, adding ah, the list of zones. And then paragraph one underneath that grammatical manufactured home park or subdivision as opposed to of subdivision. Paragraph two underneath that manufactured home, park or subdivision adding the word home. Then page 16 of the ordinance towards the top of the page, paragraph B, again adding flip plane to reflect the title

of the permit document. And then around the bottom, I'm sorry, at the middle of the page, paragraph one, uh, adding some verbiage to say all new construction and substantial improvements of residential structures have a lowest for elevated to or above the base flood elevation or the highest adjacent grade at least as high as the depth number specified in the feet on the community spir. Uh so this reflects uh at least for Roswell there's really two conditions uh in base flood elevation. One is uh a specific elevation above sea level as an example say 3,610 ft above sea level. The other situation would be that specified a certain property is subject to a certain depth of flood water 1 ft 2 foot. Uh so this is rewarded to reflect both of those conditions. Then uh a little bit further down paragraph B uh rewarding that say together with the tenant utility and sanitary facilities being designated so that below the base specified flood depth in an AO zone or below the base flood elevation in each zone the structure is watertight with walls substantially incurable to the passage of water. Uh in essence this is rewarded to reflect the same thing uh we just discussed for commercial structures. commercial structures would have the option to flood proof uh the structures below the base flood elevation base flood level. Uh page 17 of the ordinance 168 of the packet uh top of the page paragraph 4 adding the word drainage to make clear that we're talking about drainage paths around structures. And then paragraph one adding verbiage. Uh so that's now going to read encroachments are prohibited including fill new construction substantial improvements and other development within the adopted regular regulatory

flood weight unless it has been demonstrated through hydraologic and hydraulic analysis performed in accordance with standard engineering practice that proposed approachment would not result in any increase in flood levels with the community during the occurrence of a base flood discharge. Uh so a regula a regulatory flood way is different from a flood plane. A flood way is generally limited to the banks of a drainage channel or river. So this says that encroachments are prohibited within those flood ways unless we have a hydraologic and hydraulic study showing that it's that it won't affect the flood levels. And then paragraph three a little further down adding the word programs national flood insurance program regulations just to reflect the correct title. And then again saying that we have uh in a situation where we had an encroachment that would result in an increase in base blood elevations. We have to not just notify FEMA but complete all the provisions required by code federal code of federal regulation 6512. Um so again it's not enough that we just notify FEMA in that circumstance. We have to go through all the steps to get approval.

Those are all the changes and I'll stand for questions. Any questions? Thank you. Um so I have a motion by councelor Helen Brand. Is this a roll call or roll call? Roll call. Councelor Arnold. Yes. Councelor Helen Brand. Hi. Councelor Marco. Yes. Councelor Johnson. Yes. Councelor Cavin. Yes. Councelor Oesa. Yes. Councelor Cortez. Hi. Councelor Kin. Yes. Councelor Moore. Yes. Councelor Herson.

Yes. Motion passes 10. Thank you, Mr. The next item on the agenda number 23. Thank you, Madam Mayor Port. I move to for approval for advertise for RFB26-002 for design professional services for flood related projects. Second.

Thank you, Mayor Proton counselors. Uh, this request is for approval to advertise RFP26-002 for design professional services for flood related projects. We're requesting architectural and engineering firms submit proposals for the purposes of developing plans to repair flood damages and incorporate hazard mitigation measures were necessary as a result of our October flood event that has required a FEMA public assistance claim. Uh the legal committee considered this item at its October 23rd meeting and I'll stand for any questions. Any questions?

Thank you. Uh Rogers, uh been in your office quite a bit. Could you uh just for the public's knowledge, the tasks you've been working on, the things you've been tasked with from the city, and just a general update for the public on the items you work on and etc.

Of course. Um, so, uh, back in May, we we provided FEMA with a damage inventory of 350 items and over 200 million and potential flood damage costs. And so, um, we've been working through that damage inventory uh, in a couple of ways. Um, the first is, uh, recovering or getting reimbursed all of our flood related costs. And so we've been working with finance and our consultants, DRS, who are forensic accountants um to report all of these costs to FEMA and these uh reimbursement requests. And so um these reimbursement requests get reviewed by FEMA's back office who has um subject matter experts at multiple levels uh reviewing the requests. And so to date, um, they have approved 11.5 million in reimbursement requests. So that funding, um, then goes to the state of New Mexico where the state has their own process for verifying that, um, we've spent the the funding correctly. And so, um, we've only received about 600,000 or about 5% of that.5 million. And so, we're working with the state on um continuing to get those reimbursements to the city. Um, the other way we've been uh working through those flood damages is through u physical site inspections. And this is where, uh, FEMA sends a team to verify all of our flood damage. And so, um,

they want to measure everything. And so, when we have a flood damaged building, they go room by room and and we identify um, each of the items in that room that were damaged. And so, um, this month we, um, completed, we believe, all of our, uh, physical site inspections. And so, the the next step is to then, um, take those site inspection reports and those damage descriptions and, um, work with engineering and architecture firms uh, to develop plans, and specs so we can bid those projects out. Um, we've also applied for uh Senate Bill uh 31 revolving loan funds. Um so that and we've received um about a million dollars in approved applications and that will give us upfront funding um to go out and um and uh spend that money on engineering and architecture services. That was for two projects um for the adult center and for the museum. and we'll stand for any questions.

And if I could just dovtail in on that, Mack has submitted uh Mr. Rogers has submitted for SB31 funds. Those are the revolving loan funds that are paid back at a rate of 75% per project for FE uh with FEMA funds. Now, those have to be a FEMA approved project, which they all are. Uh, but I'll just say that, uh, up to this point, um, those funds just became available, uh, through legislation of the prior year. Uh, that is the fund you may recall for the state of New Mexico originally started in the legislative process with 150 million in that account uh, competitive to all the disaster uh, communities throughout New Mexico to compete for those 150 million funds. and the day before the legislation actually passed into law uh for appropriation, they trimmed that down to $50 million. So, you've got several communities, Roswell, Riadosa, Las Vegas, etc. Uh they're competing for those revolving loan funds that be paid back essentially through FEMA. Uh Roswell will have its own cost in that at 25% uh until or unless the the governor u signs executive order to trim that back to 12 1.5% or half of 25%. Um so again I think Mr. Rogers has done an outstanding job uh and a lot of work and we're not even thinking about uh all of his work to get the air bases uh to where they could be accomplished uh as well. But 23 uh projects submitted for SB31 funds. Uh as Max said, uh two of those uh projects have been awarded at this point for the Museum of the Adult Center to start architectural services, engineering services. Councilman.

So, um I just need some clarification. Yes. Uh thank you, Mac, for all your hard work. It's actually probably been a lot over several months and pretty intense. Um I'm just a little confused here on the process. If you compare to item number 26, um when it says developing plans to repair, um is that actually repairing them in their current location or according to I mean does it allow for us? Cuz I don't really think that we as a community um administration or council have kind of sat down and determined where we're going to put these locations to start on the adult center, the planning and all that. Is it right where it is or is it for a future? Because that's kind of I think this one is kind of like the cart before the horse if we actually pass number 26. So that I was kind of confused on on the value of that.

And Mac, if you could explain a zerobased project that's been approved through SB31 funds.

Yeah, that that's a great question. And um and so um as Mr. Cole mentioned u FEMA has already approved a a version zero which is like a placeholder grant um for these uh architectural and engineering services. Um but this uh this solicitation for proposals um has no impact on the scope of work for these specific projects on the damage inventory item. Um and so um this is this is this work is going to help us and help you know a potential task force and the council um make a decision on um how all of these pieces get put back together. Um so it's it's not necessarily um to to make repairs to a specific location.

Very good. Thank you. That's why I just needed that to make sure it closed. Thank you so much. I just curious the boy scout building. You know where that fallen was one of the other buildings? I don't think it was on the list. It's on the list.

Okay. So, um the the list that was included in the scope of work um as discussed previously um are the are the version zero projects where FEMA has approved um engineering funding um for those projects. Um this this RFP scope of work isn't limited in any way to those specific projects. Um we could use it to procure engineering services um for other projects. Um um the the Boy Scout building specifically requires um architectural and engineering services because you know there is a there is a decision as to potential decision as to what we do with it. um because it's located in a special hazard flood area right next to the river and um it has a potential to flood again and it took on six to seven ft of water.

So this study essentially let us know if we can rebuild in our current location professional opinion. Yeah.

Thank you. Um, I've got a question. Somewhere in all of this discussion, there was some decision that was going to be made on the percentage of damage to the buildings and what you can and can't do. Could you refresh my memory? Of course. So, um, what you're referring to is, um, FEMA policy has essentially a 50% rule where, um, when, uh, the damage cost exceeds 50% of the building's replacement value, um, they will support, um, moving that building to higher ground. So, has that determination been made yet? Do we know which one of the buildings is more or less 50%.

No, it is not part of this. Okay. And that's what part of this is correct. [Music]

Yes, sir. Madam chair just clarify my own mind on something that you said who who does the determination as to whether the building is sal can be salvaged or not so is that I I think I ultimately it's it's the city's decision Um, but FEMA policy um allows for moving the building to higher ground if it meets certain conditions.

When you say moving the building, does that mean reconstruction it right or even building new um in a different location? Okay. But the the the determination is made by staff engineering. I'm not sure who and the staff would make that recover. If I may, is that what the study is going to do? It provides a professional opinion from an engineer. Yes.

Yeah. And part of that is the is it in a special hazard flood zone? Um what type of damage did it sustain? The 50% rule on total damage. It just gives us more options uh as a city to determine whether we want to raise that building and relocate it uh out of outside of the flood zone uh or if we want to renovate uh a building where it currently exists and assume liability um the and the cost of insurance etc. So when you say we need it to be assessed by an engineer, can it be our engineer within or we have to contract out?

I I think in some cases our our engineer uh can make those assessments. In some cases, uh we need engineer that is expert in that type of building. Okay. Thank you. Yes, sir. Any other questions? Thank you, Mr. Fresh room. Always vote. All those in favor? I vote. Okay. Motion carries. [Music]

Okay, moving on. Next item is number 24. Have to do that for you because that was yours. Okay. Thank you. Um, madame, I move the approval for Ramon Zabato, which is an engineering technician to exceed $1,500 in travel reimbursements for the current fiscal year per resolution 24-55. Second

mayor prom counselors. Uh we're asking for approval for Ramon Zapata, one of our engineering technicians, to exceed $1,500 in travel reimbursements. This is current fiscal year for resolution 2455. Uh Mr. Mr. Zapata has been attending certification courses through the Associated Contractors of New Mexico and Albuquerque to obtain the necessary certifications for the city of Roswell materials testing laboratory. These certifications are essential for maintaining compliance and allowing the city to continue performing in-house testing for construction materials. To date, Mr. Zapata has participated in several sessions under this program and will be attending six additional training classes to complete certifications in concrete, asphalt, and densometer testing. These trainings are critical to ensure that the city maintains qualified personnel for materials testing and minimizes the need for outsourced services. The total travel reimbursements for Mr. Zapata are expected to exceed the $1,500 per fiscal year limit. Therefore, this request is being submitted for city council review and approval and compliance with resolution 2455. Uh these certifications uh that we're sending Mr. Zapata to are specifically required for some of our New Mexico Department of Transportation funding sources. Uh so that's why we're trying to get him all these certifications and I'll stand questions.

So is this these are reimbursements? So he has to pay out of his pocket and reimburse them. Correct. So, uh, things like PDM count towards this. Things like mileage reimbursements, all that counts towards this. Is there a better way to do this when they're not out of their out of pocket? I mean, what if they want to get certification, they can't afford it? Pro. Uh, so this this is how the resolution 2455 was drafted, approved by the council. There are other ways to do it, but last year when this passed, the council did not opt into them. Yes. So, uh, the city obviously has its material lab. Yes, sir. And does it have a densometer as well? Yes, sir.

Oh, cool. And it's monitored by the safety program. Yes, sir. By dispel. I'm sorry. By dispel. Yes, we have a safety laz. Yes, we have a safety officer identified until I guess. That sounds good. I mean, it's it's a necessity for just about every project. Yes, sir. Thank you, James. Any additional questions? I'd like to look if you can come up with something because I mean I think it hurts the city to not concern our people at training if they can't afford it to go up front. I just think it would hurt the city and they don't get training because they can't afford it up front.

No other questions. This voice. All those in favor? I carries. Thank you. Thank you. Next item on the agenda is item number 25. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Pro Tim. I move. I'm not sure, but I think this is

resolution 2556. No, we're at the $1,500. So, I'll start all over again here. I'll wake up in a minute. I'll wake up. I'll move to approve Sergeant Gwen to exceed the $1,500 limit and travel reimbursements for the current fiscal year in accordance with resolution 24-55. Second. Yes, she

counselors. Sergeant Win is ex is going to exceed the $1,500 travel reimbursement limit. Trump win is on our SWAT team and also our our head recruiting sergeant. So, he's tasked with a lot of stuff. So, he has to go to extra training, keep a certification. So, um I ask that you approve the extension so we can send him to this next train. Same thing he's he's having to pay for it. A lot of things. Okay. Any questions? Okay, I'll do a voice vote. All those in favor

I car. Next on the item agenda is item number 26. Council Cortez. [Music]

Thank you, Mayor Pro. I finally got it right. I move that we adopt resolution 256 uh creating the Roswell Flood Recovery Task Force. Second, is this yours? Council [Music] no. I just go to councelor Cortez. Okay. Council Cortez, thank you very much. It's been a pretty uh fast clip of meeting here and we'll try to keep that going. For the record, Madcl. [Music]

Um, so yeah. Uh, I guess I want to The mayor's not here to tell a story, so I figure someone has to tell a story. No, wait. No, I do. Tell me a story. Be quick. Be real quick. So, I don't uh so what we have up here is the national preparedness goal. So, um I don't know a lot of you might know, but I'm I was uh my house was flooded um on Riverside. So, this is a little personal to me. Um that's why I really feel very strongly about this resolution and uh the need for this for the community. So, that's the story. Um so, that wasn't too bad. head. Um, it's a sad story.

It's a sad story. Yeah, we're still there. So, we're all we're all we're all working on it. So, the the goal here is to uh this is the national preparedness goal and it's we're coming under a FEMA framework for how to uh recover from flood. And so, and those are the items there. It's not just repairing and recovering, which the city staff has been working on very diligently with a lot of appreciation to Mr. Rogers. Um, and uh, for those of you in the community that know, you can look this up. It talks about prevention and the guide, the guideline that I'm suggesting is available there online. So, it's the FEMA framework, this current version. And that's kind of what we're trying to get to is a a more comprehensive uh, recovery. Let me go to the next slide real quick. We'll keep moving. Um, this is an important um, graphic. I think it summarizes where we are. If you look at the upper right corner, you see that disaster occurs. And this isn't a linear process, right? So, it's kind of like a boomerang goes around in a circle, you throw it, it comes around. And so, what you have is disaster. We've all experienced and that first thing is recovery. We'll say that my experience in the flood and and the community was we responded really well to the flood. The national the nonprofits, the churches, they were all out. you know, it's only a year ago, but it's hard to realize that it was that short of a time, but so we go here and then there's this cycle, right? And we go through, we're recovering and we're coming back around and we're trying to get back to a steady state and then being prepared for the next disaster. Obviously, we hope there won't be one, but you know, we don't get to choose that. So, think next one real quick. So, it's a life cycle. This is a more linear drawing. I think this is useful. It shows that you have that initial response and then you start going to these longer time frames for recovery, rebuilding, but also mitigation. Um the estimates we've

received, you know, the city also, just for the record, because it's kind of lost in the mix here of the last year, the city did hire FEMA consultants, specialized people is what they do for a living. Know the recovery and rebuilding could take 10 to 15 years. I'm 50. So I'll be 65 at a 15 year mark. I think it's important for us to all think about where we might be in 10 to 15 years and purpose of the task force is partially to provide some continuity beyond um just the city council here which might not be around. I think we calculated 15 years you could potentially have 42 city councilors and four or five mayors in that time frame potentially. So there's a lot of turnover there. We're trying to build something beyond that. Um you can go to the next one. This is kind of the last one that I think is really critical because in my work which I work with engineering company um we have to be really careful about scope and I think people don't think about scope a lot. Um you'll hear Mac and Mr. McCoret talk about scope a lot. What what can we do as a city as a local government? And we're just a little part of that wheel right there on the right hand side. At the center of recovery, FEMA says that is the community. And the city can do some things and we're already doing some of these. But the task force job is to kind of integrate in with other community elements, other other parts of the state government, nonprofits, phil philanthropic groups, and and move forward in a a more holistic way. Um, and that's kind of the goal. So, if you guys I would encourage you all to read this um document, pay careful attention to what the the city can do, the local government's roles and responsibilities and uh then of course try to get people that will support

that. Can't guarantee that the you know task force will be successful. Uh recovery is not a quick race. It's you know it's like Baja 1000, right? It's long, it's arduous, it's bumpy. Um, it doesn't guarantee that we're going to succeed, but you know, I think it's worth trying. That's why I brought this resolution forward. I appreciate I appreciate Councelor Korn bringing it in front of finance. I appreciate staff helping put this all together for us and uh hope that we can continue to move forward and uh work together. So, thank you very much.

Thank you. I really appreciate all the work we're going to do a lot of research on this. Um, and I do agree with you, the city's response, the staff, everything was wonderful. And I know it's extremely frustrating even for us because it's been over a year and we still haven't made much progress on recovery. So, it's frustrating. I don't know about I'm sure the rest of the community as well. So, any other question? Yes, sir.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, you know, I I think the task force is an important element for for our city. But I do have at least one concern on the on the resolution and that is on item number six on page two which uh talks about the number of members and it's the resolution says made up of five members and and I'm not sure what the uh the intention of or why we have put a number or a small number in my opinion as to how many members can be on the on the task force. [Music] So, I don't know if that's a a question to Chad, a question to councelor Cortez or whoever, [Music] but I I think in my opinion, I think it should be opened up because it talks about experience in public safety, construction, engineering, hydraology, and so forth and so on. Uh but I in my opinion I think it it should have at least some some members from the community that are not in this uh in these fields but have experienced the the u the the problem that we had with the disaster that we had back in in October. And I I would hope that we could compromise and and maybe up the the

number five to something else, whatever that something else may be.

I think the idea, councelor Orteza, was to keep the task force relatively small um for focus and efficiency. Um I I agree with you that you know we we need a broad base of community. My vision of the task force was always that you know expressly would be there are going to be times we're going to be reaching out to different members of the community. the task force has expressed the original resolution to go out and seek that out, you know, to have that sort of unfettered, hey, if we want to talk to museum board people, we can pull them in, bring them in special, but I I actually don't have I don't I don't know the other city councilors. We brought this to finance. I like a small committee. Obviously, we have to have an odd number. I I have no opposition to a slightly larger number. if that expands the capacity of the task force. Um, I would, you know, I appreciate the concern and I I think it's valid and I'm not attached to my idea so much that I would disagree if someone were to offer an amendment, but that's where I look at it.

How are you deal?

Uh, so thank you, Madam Mayor Pro. I actually agree with Councilman Orbee. So I think one of my biggest concerns in this whole process is we have organizations who have um really stepped up to work and um create coalitions in our community that are working towards flood recovery as well. I feel like there's a sort of a river between the administration and the community groups. Um I so I too agree that we should have uh community teams on there. It's either add to the number or um like this is just an example of a team that was created. It's called the community crisis coalition in Chavis County. Um and they have of course been out working to um assist the public in connecting to human funds on repairing their home. Um, and so I the reason I think it's imperative that we have at least one community member on this task force is so that they can be a breast of what's happening and relay it to the community because they are working right with these organizations. And I'm not so much for that we have to step out of five um I think seven you know two community members. The thing is is you you have the mayor who's appointing. So this is our opportunity to provide direction and I actually believe that the wording could actually just um note you know um one community because you have a lot of professionals which is um I think very advantageous for a group like this. Um, I think it's a great idea, but there again, I think we should add to positions that are community based or

add verbiage that um, one of the five at least should be community based. And that's just, you know, that's just my perspective. So, thank you, Councilman Ora. Thank you, Councilman Cortez. And, um, are really excited that we're moving forward in this direction.

Council, thank you Protown. Um you know my concern with I mean you can make this 100 people and my concern is look at eight all these people serve as volunteers not getting paid no compensation no reimbursement and if you get too many members then getting enough of together to have a quorum to transact the business becomes a problem because I've seen that in other positions I've had where you have this large group and they call a meeting and they don't even have form shown and that's a big problem. This is not going to preclude anybody, any group from and and I would hope I don't know how they're going to manage their business, but they're pretty informal and take all everything that's available from everybody and then help us by directing us and going through the various steps. So that's that's my concern. I don't I don't know what a perfect number is. Five seems to work pretty well. Most of our appointed groups for five members that are helping us make decisions and and I I just that's just a number. I I'm not trying to I don't want to

exclude anybody, but if you look at the area of of area different fields that are negated here. I know a couple people we can fill a couple of these and and I think we're after expertise that they bring to the table instead of just a volume of people because you get a lot of people that will get so focused on their specific project whatever that is. museum, recreation center, the convention center, the boy scout hub, any the old park and recreation office, and and you'll get people that close their mind to the overall picture because they're so interested in their specific focus and and that concerns me. I think we've got people in the community that can meet all these qualifications or the majority of them. You're not going to I mean if you just count public safety, construction, architecture, engineering, hydro hydraology and and just because these are listed, this may not be all the different areas of expertise that you need. So, I hope that those five individuals, whomever they're going to be, will have the four:00 to reach out and say, "Okay, we need somebody that's an expert in this area and get them in to testify." Similar to what we do in city council, we bring experts into our committees all the time to find out if we're thinking right and or if we're

completely off base. and you've been here longer than I have and you understand that sometimes what I was thinking wasn't even close to the mark. And so that that that reason a small number in my opinion works. And so they can stay focused on the overall task and bring us the information we need or they can back or city manager or whoever bring a focus of the whole thing instead of just a very narrow view. And by expanding this, two things happen to you. Can't have meetings because not enough people show up because we're not paying them. They're doing it for the good of the community. Uh I just I I don't know. I don't know what the magic number is, but it's a good start. If it doesn't work, that's easy to change. Yeah. He wants to respond.

Can Can I respond? Yeah.

Thank you. And I appreciate uh council record your comments. Uh but this this resolution doesn't uh address whether the five members include staff like our engineering department and some other ones or all volunteer. So, so we're not going to include the staff our our experts from staff in the area that gets incorporated. I think that gentleman sitting right there will assign a staff person and that's one of our staff. That person will be paying to help guide but it but it will not include the the staff person will not be included as one of the five.

Correct. I think that the task force just is giving recommendations. What they say isn't doesn't mean that's what's going to happen. It's just they're giving recommendations to how we can build and rebuild. That's exactly right. If you think of it in terms of very similar to our airportwork advisory committee, they are an advisory body only, meaning they only make recommendations. Uh they don't take action. Well, and I understand that because all our committees that we have are essentially uh advisory committees. Yes, sir. Like the park creation department and the cemetery.

Yeah. cemetery board and the museum board and all those are all uh advisory

advisory but at least in my opinion I believe that and of course I I also understand that this resolution is only to create a task force to approve a task force and So I don't know whether the decision had been made with Mr. or Councelor Cortez if he's talked to the mayor or whatever that he has appointed uh councelor Cortez as the the lead person or he intends to appoint you.

Well, he's not here to ask. know, but I'm sure she doesn't know. Yes.

But my my my concern is that we limit it to to just ex experts in in the certain fields. And uh I believe that we need to open it up to to the community. Uh whether it be other or organizations, individuals that have gone through the the ordeal of of the flood, whatever. And that's just my opinion that I I think we need to open it up to uh more than five. The council protest.

Yeah. uh making their town counselor. Um it it is built into the framework that the task force may expressly reach out to community because this the city has a limited scope of work that it can do. So it is it is in there. I I do understand your concern. There is a there is a member of staff the city manager does need uh to join the team. Um I guess I don't know if you're thinking more to increase the number or to specify that uh at least a member or a certain number of members would represent the community broadly. I don't know if you're looking for numbers or you're looking for a specific uh disposition. Um I and and neither is fine. You increase the numbers, you increase the chance. ask you is it is it more important for what you where you you know what I mean it is built in the sauce but and as far as but I'm not you know if I'm asked to serve on this task force I will I'm not passing a resolution to uh to continue to volunteer my wife has a large bill drafted for the mayor um so I do need to get back to work but uh I'm obviously I am I do have a bias here but I I think it's important and uh

and that's why we're here talking and you know it's been a year and and it's it's been a tough year and uh for the community and uh well and I think uh to a certain extent we all have a bias because we all suffered the Yeah.

Yeah. You know if you look at it the it was broad damage. I think Max we tried to draw attention to this that the damage is broad. There are these buildings and we all focus on them. I I thought a lot about how the museum I think for the museum one thing I would say is that it's a lot like your home. You know, I no offense to Jeff. I think Jeff I don't Jeff's still here. Forget the IT guy. But I don't think I don't think the IT department felt losing the IT building. I don't think it affected them as much as the museum people um who lived and worked with those artists. And it's different. I think the museum is for them it's like their home, right? Very similar to me. I I that's just something I think about a lot and uh and I think there is a spot. One of the things we have to be careful about is we flooded in 19547 if someone um you know we're we uh we tend to not learn from history sometimes and and we repeat the same mistakes and I I look at the resources of the pro the museum and think about you know well how do we remember and that's important but if you went one street north of Riverside side were I was on the high side of bad or the high the low low side of good. I don't know. Um no, they weren't flooded. But then all of us in the community are going to pay for this. We we passed the tax. So we're we're we're all paying for it. And there are going to be choices that we're going to have to make that are going to be tough because our gener next generations are going to have to keep paying for this. There's going to be things we wish we could have in the community, but because we have to stop and fix this, that's where we're going to be. So, I guess what I'm saying, I mean, that's a lot just to say, I I hear what you're saying. I agree with

you. I'm not opposed to increasing the number or I do believe a smaller committee can be more effective. Um, but if you if we're going to specify another party to join and this this task force actually needs to be able to communicate out to the public, a lot of engineers, and I'm not an engineer. A lot of engineers are really crappy at that. They're not good at it. And so people that have a broader skill are have an important role on this task force. So that's all I got to say. I think we got it. You know, leave it at that. You guys

call. So thank you mayor and and I I think in my in my vision of this task force I mean I'm I'm not trying to I mean it's kind of like uh it's kind of like tribes. Okay. If you have if you have too many Indians out there with no leadership. So you got to have chiefs. And I see this deal have being five chiefs. And those 5Gs are going to reach out to those others and and create that tribe to give them their feedback and their information to bring back to the task force. If you get too many people on there, then suddenly you've got stuff coming from all the different corrections and now you're trying to now you're trying to put it all together, but then somebody over here is going to say this or somebody over there is going to say that. And I I think that having those five members and having their their tribes as it would be I'm using that as an example and they bring back that information to the task force to the city council. So u that's just I mean the way I'm envisioning

council I'll take after you.

Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Um, madam for Tim. Um, I I for me I understand the science and the actual value of a task force. Throughout this whole flooding event, I have felt that the um education to the public regarding the flood outside of our regular meetings um has been very very limited. Uh I'm not saying that we need to actually add people. I understand the value of a small team very much so. However, I still feel that there there needs to actually be at least one member that is a community related member um or because my concern is like with the airport advisory committee that is a meeting that is actually um recorded and you can log on to. This is an advisory committee. I haven't seen anything in here noting the way that it would be set up where the public can actually watch the the meeting in action or you know participate. I think my biggest concern is um is actually we have nothing stating that they will um reach out to um I would like to see forums or some type of meeting with the public or something. I mean, because these are all professionals, I I'm not seeing anything that's actually conveying how they will reach out to the public because going to your regular restaurant once a month and talking to the person you talk to all the time doesn't necessarily mean outreach to me. Um, I'm looking for, you know, but there again, it is quite vague. I'm not actually saying that I won't support what you have here. I'm just saying I'm disappointed at the

effort of outreach to our public regarding this and um this at this point although it has my support it doesn't um signify that there will be much change in that area. Okay. Thank you.

Thank you. Every board that the city has as a published agenda and anyone in the community can attend those and anyone can can if they choose to participate and councelor Cortez has put a lot of work into this ordinance [Music] and I had conversation with him about it. I applaud for this and it's time we get this done and if we need to add next other members at a later date, we must pass this ordinance so we can get to work and not sit here and worry about today it needs five members, it needs seven members. I'm of the opinion that we as a city council are going to approve those members that are going to be on this board and this board's going to report back to the council after they meet. and take direction and send it back. And if council Cortez after he's off city council doesn't nominate himself to be on this board, I will nominate him to be on this board because he's put a lot of effort into this. His heart and soul is in this community and I want to support this and I will leave it right where it's at. I offer no changes to this one bit until we see what this thing looks like and then we can mold it at a later date if it needs to be molded.

But I'm calling for the question. Okay, let's go to call for the question. Is this a girl or boys? Calling for voice is fine. [Music] The voice is fine. A voice for calling for the question. Okay. Voice vote. We're calling for the question. All those in favor? All those opposed. So then we can move on to the is a roll call vote please. The boys for the ordinance. Okay. So boys vote for the ordinance to pass as it is. All those in favor? I

oppose. Okay. Thank you. Do you think you call your work counselor? And I think Cortez would be great on it because he's also a survivor. You know, he's a community member you're talking about who's been affected. All right, moving on to number 27. 28. Oh, 27. 28. I don't like

item 28. Okay. I move that we hold a close session present to to NMSA1 1978 10-15-1H5 and 8 for the discussion of collective bargaining strategy preliminary to collective bargaining negotiations and for the discussion of purchase acquisition and disposal of real property. Second. Okay. So we need a vote to go into session. Vote to go into session. Okay. Unless it's

councelor Arnold. Yes. Councelor Henbrand. Hi. Councelor. Yes. Councelor Johnson. Yes. Councelor Cavage. Yes. Councelor Ovesa. Yes. Councelor Cortez. Hi. Councelor Thorne. Yes. Councelor Moore. Yes. Councelor Hish. Yes. We're doing close session.

is pursuant to [Music] All right then.

Yes. Roll call. Okay. The roll call vote into what the law says. Y it's not what the card says. Councelor Arnold. Yes. Councelor Helen Brand. Hi. Councelor Monoke. He's missing an action. Council Johnson. Yes. Councelor Cabin. Yes. Councelor Oropesa. Yes. I said yes. [Music] Oh, sorry.

So say yes. Yes. Councelor Moore. Yes. And council. Yes. I think we're all here. I don't remember voter corn. Yes. All right. I guess next is city manager report.

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tim, member of the council. Real quick, just a couple of things. You know, we covered a lot of ground tonight. Bobby certainly did a great report on the airport. A lot of things were discussed there. Uh I would just point out that the uh the fire training that we've had at our fire training center this week has been really fantastic. Appreciate the fire department for having me out with those guys. um to to participate in some of that training. It was really good. Very impressive. Uh they actually got to use their AR truck uh on a a real fire uh which they were very impressed. They haven't yet got to do that yet. Now, not our brand new RF truck. Uh that one is waiting some chemicals to arrive before we can use that one. Uh but they were very excited to use that truck. Uh kudos go out to Abraham Chabaro and Demi Reigns. uh with our solid waste team uh they have recently taken over fleet maintenance at the lead system and are doing a fantastic job. I will say that uh uh Abraham Debbie, our fire chief Chavis, Deputy Chief Washek uh and several others including Clinton our HR department uh have done an outstanding job recruiting an emergency vehicle technician uh to the the new uh fleet maintenance system. And this person is the only person in the state of New Mexico that can work on ARF trucks. Um, I'll tell you that our uh oil changes that are required for our firet trucks were costing $4,000 a pop. We're required to get two of them on a year. Uh, that is no longer going to be the case. And matter of fact, we envision uh being able to help uh surrounding communities and uh uh being taken off the monopoly that once was uh emergency vehicle technician services. So, we're very

excited to bring him in. uh he has accepted the position. Uh he'll start for us January 9th and 19th and we're very excited for that. Um as we discussed uh uh just a little while ago, PD Police Department has recently hired five more police officers. Uh that puts us two shy uh on our vacancies, not counting the 10 additional that have never been filled. Um also uh very similar to fire uh the light medium tactical vehicle that was brought in for um water rescue high water vehicle u by our municipal league. Our municipal league uh had recently done the same for our police department. It's called a pitbull um uh not to be confused with Bearcat. Essentially it's a SWAT breaching vehicle. Um, as you may know, they have a an army surplus vehicle that uh has been a real nightmare to try and maintain. And uh I can tell you from experience the day that uh we received the pitbull vehicle uh my househ over I heard the flashbang grenades going off. Um that was the gentleman that was shooting his wife and they really couldn't use that vehicle. So, uh, very excited for that. Very appreciative of of our municipal league for, uh, going out and getting that vehicle and, uh, allowing us to utilize their vehicle.

Thank you. Any questions? Uh, thank you for the pleium. Abraham and Debbie will knock it out of the park on that. Already doing it. and uh hiring that uh subject matter expert on your on servicing your equipment that is going to bring so much value to the city and not only that um could actually bring revenue because it's going to bring other municipalities over here to uh I mean that's nothing but good news

nothing but good news and I I'll say this um that person is also certified to a level where he can certify the work of other mechanics that work for him, meaning they can also service emergency vehicles uh going forward under his license. Uh and and you're exactly right. This is a revenue generating opportunity. Um I have no doubt uh that uh Abraham and Debbie, Debbie on the data management side and analysis side, Abraham on the organizational side and uh uh putting these things together. Yes. Uh absolute fantastic team. So thank you.

Anybody else? Thank you.