City Council - Regular Meeting

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, if call the role meeting councelor Herson here. Councelor Arnold here. Councelor Cabin here. Councelor Ovesa here. Councelor Johnson here. Councelor Moore here. Councelor Helterbrand present. Councelor Cortez present. Councelor Korn here. Councelor Mville here.

Okay. if you would if you would rise for the pledge of allegiance and we're going to have a short prayer by Council Maro and the pledge uh by Council uh Lady Moore, you know, and I I'm going to take a little bit of personal privilege here and I I know today is 911 and there's a lot here today, but you know, uh Mr. Kirk was assassinated yesterday and you know whether you're a Democrat or Republican it doesn't matter. You have a right to your opinion and we must consent continually treat that as a sacred right and anybody who uses this kind of way to silence another voice uh you know we need to figure out what to do with them. uh we cannot exist having people doing that and you know I might not have agreed to him I might agreed with him on a lot of things. All I'm saying is that you know that kind of stuff we cannot tolerate in this country and I I join whether you're Republican or Democrat it doesn't make it one bit of difference. Everybody has their rights under that on under the sacred sacred documents which we're formed under. So please keep him and his family in your mind and and uh we just don't have toleration with that and when I look at 9/11 you can you know there are a lot of things that happened and and uh but you remember how few of people it was and when I went to the border meetings with uh I was able to go with our city attorney uh and they had the mayors there but there were 74,000 uh people from China, male, young males from China between 18 and and 30 that came into this country with undocumented 73,000.

And I'm all I'm going to say when you go back and you look at 911, it took about 20 people to do that. And so you you turn around and look and I'm not saying anything bad about I'm just saying you know the doors were open pretty darn wide and and and uh we we have to be vigilant of that because a lot of people come to this country don't respect us or the documents that we all take note to to obey and I'm sorry to get on horse but anyway thank you if you could see more council more. Okay. She'll do the pledge or prayer. You do the

Oh, you do the pledge and Carl's going to do the prayer. Prayer first.

You want a prayer first? Okay. She wants prayer first. We'll do the prayer first. Father God, we come before you and give you all glory and honor, Father God. Father God, we ask for the Charlie Kirk family, Father God, Erica and the two young children, Father God, that they give give them peace, Father God, as they go through those trials and tribulations. We ask you to bring that person that did this to justice, Father God. I ask you for all the people here, bless them and guide them, Father God, for all the counselors that give us wisdom as we make our decisions tonight. Ask for our officials, our city officials, state officials, and our national nation officials. Father God, for our military that you protect them, Father God, for our firefighters, our police officers nationwide, Father God, protect them. And we give you all glory and honor, Father God, tonight. In your name we pray. Amen.

Amen. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [Music]

Welcome to the council meeting tonight. Uh just to start off on a real note, I have had nothing but praise for the work of our employees have done in here for the air races. Our city employees and staff have been phenomenal and the people uh the pilots come in and they they are so happy because this is the safest policeourse they've ever been on and they are so happy with the conditions of things here. Uh, and uh, you know, it and I can't tell you our our employees worked over Labor Day and all the time and fixing things up. It's really going off. It's exceptional the way it's going off. And anybody who hadn't gone out there, if you don't want to go, that's fine. But drive through and look how many motor homes are there.

I mean, it It's unbelievable. And these are the first two days. And the last three, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, that's when it really packs in. I mean, it's amazing. So, and so when you see one of our employees, uh, the work they've done has been phenomenal and our staff, uh, Mike and Chad and everybody and all our crew, each department head, uh, it's amazing. So, thank you all very much because it's, uh, the Albuquerque Journal was a little crit critical, but they're going to have to eat their word. Well, I'll tell you that for sure. All right. Thank you. if we could move right along. So, uh, on approval of the agenda, Council Lady Halverson. Mr. Mayor, I move to approve the agenda for the September 11th, 2025 regular city council meeting with the following changes. Pull item number three off the consent agenda and place it before item 21. We're pulling item three and placing it before item 21. Is that it moving second?

It 3 to 21 to 42. Okay. So, so it be 28. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, we have a motion by councel Herson. Is we have a second? Council cabin. Any discussion? Okay. Parker call. Council Herson. Yes. Councelor Arnold. Yes. Councelor Cavin. Yes. Councelor Odessa. Yes. Councelor Johnson. Yes. Councelor Moore. Yes. Councelor Helder.

Hi. Councelor Cortez. Hi. Councelor Korn. Yes. Councelor Maro. Yes. Oh gosh. One more time. It's 10 to nothing. I never get to vote. Okay. Item number two, approval of the consent agenda. Mr. Mayor, I move to approve the consent agenda as amended for the September 11th, 2025 regular city council meeting. Whoa.

I can hear him because he's in my ear. But so on a motion by I was trying to get council lady or councilman council lady and second by councilman hint of Hildbrand. Is there any discussion on the do motion? All right. Seeing none, it's the clerk to call the role. Councelor Halverson, yes. Councelor Arnold, yes. Councelor C. Yes. Councelor Odessa. Yes. Councelor Johnson. Yes. Moore. Yes. Councelor Helenbrand. Hi. Councelor Cortez. Hi. Council. Yes.

Okay. We are getting out of here at 7:45. Okay. Okay. So, we're now we're on item [Music] item 19. Let's see. So, we're on item 19 recognition. Yes. Adriana first Adriana Vill from Girl Scout troop number 18,044 about the proper disposal of our New Mexico state flag New Mexico House Bill 468. Welcome.

Thank you so much. We've been trying to get you here for a long time. I'm so happy that I can make it today.

We're glad you're here. So, um, today I'm going to tell you a little bit about my Girl Scout project, which was House Bill 468, and it and it got passed. Um, I've been a Girl Scout for 10 years and I participated in many American flag retirement ceremonies and I noticed that New Mexico State flag never had a proper retirement. So, I did my research and to see if other states had their own retirement for their state flag and they didn't. So, I thought, why couldn't we? Because we did work really, really hard just to even get a state flag. So, I'm going to tell you about the steps on how to properly dispose of it. When is a flag ready for retirement? A New Mexico state flag should be retired when it's no longer suitable for display such as when it becomes torn, faded, or worn. Preferred method of disposal. The flag should be destroyed in a dignified manner, preferably by burning to honor its significance as a symbol of the state. Ceremonial guidelines. Retirement ceremonies can either be public or private. Public ceremonies may be conducted under the direction of uniform personnel from state or federal military services or by patriotic societies. Community participation individuals and organizations are encouraged to participate in or organize black retirement ceremonies to show respect for the state emblem. Safety and environment environmental considerations. Ensure that any burning is conducted safely and in accordance

with local fire regulations. Be mindful of environmental guidelines, especially concerning the materials of the flag. And that's it. Thank you. Nice job. Good stuff. [Applause] I have a brochure for each of you. If I can come, please. [Music]

Thank you. Adrian, come around. Come around. [Music] Look at her. [Music]

There we go. [Applause] Hey, uh, can I ask you a question now? I'm looking at this. Sorry. Yes, I'm almost there. Have you been to the air races yet? No, I have not. Oh my gosh. Well, you've got got a new uh poster up for our air races. And you know, you can look at your the beautiful flag here and it has four points. Four points. Four points. And four points. Yes.

Oh my gosh. But did you know on the post that's on our on our air racers brochure, there's four points, four points, four points, and five points. Oh. So now, how do we dispose of that? Would that be a proper flag? I don't think so. [Music] Okay. Well, counselors, I will bring uh one of those posters and so we can all sign it. Please, you'll go by the and we can sign it uh to Adrian and then we can present it to her so she has a dilemma to worry about. She's really good at solving problems. So then she can tell us how we how we fix that.

Thank you. Thank you, Adriana. Thank you very much. And our our whole state will benefit from that. Thank you. Okay. Next, we have employee out of state travel council. Per [Music] resolution 2455, all out of state travel shall be communicated to the city council before travel. So below is a list of employees traveling out of state by the time. This is just information correct.

That is correct. Evening, mayor. Got a little red.

Yeah. They're uh just going over the out of state travel. We had two that we had to make up from last month as we didn't get to put it on uh in the timeline. Sergeant Brad Bailey went to Hutchinson, Kansas for our leadership class preparing for uh advancement in the department. And the other one was officer Willis and Barela went to night vision systems and operations class in El Paso for the part of the SWAT team. The other ones coming up, Lieutenant Fry is going to Scottsdale, Arizona September 14th for master taser instructor. This allows us to keep taser instruction in house to keep our officers from traveling. Sergeant Win and Detective Cantons will be going to Prescott Valley, Arizona September 14th through the 20th uh for also another leadership course to prepare them for advancement in the department. Officer Jimenez and Balanos will be traveling to El Paso October 2nd. Uh first responder mental health and wellness, they're part of the peer support team. Um so they advance their qualifications in that. And the last one is October 8th through the 12th. We have seven members of our SWAT team will be going to a SWAT competition in Arizona going against other teams. But it also puts them uh in real life scenarios, real world scenarios to help them train, which um comes to the forefront of what happened two weeks ago here in Roswell where they were met with automatic gunfire. So I think it's very valuable training. Other than that, I stand for questions. are just if you just send out a statement how the officers doing and everything

doing good. Uh we we still have uh I think we're getting them off administrative leave. We had seven officers on administrative leave. We had one that was wounded. He's fine. He'll be back to work next week. Uh the others should be back to work with the exception of one this weekend. That's great. Okay. Thanks, Chief. Okay, so we have that and next we have Okay. dance.

Yeah, I just got a text from Amanda and she's at the visitor center, but her list is um they're traveling her and um well, Amanda Dickerson is traveling to Arizona February 11th through the 16th and they're doing a travel show and they're going to Los Angeles March 5th through the 9th. They're flying there. Then they're going to Dallas March 26th through the 30th. They're flying there as well to Denver, Colorado, April 9th through the 13th. They're taking the city vehicle with that trip. And then Fort Lauderdale, Florida. They'll be traveling February 26 through March the 2nd. So, she just included all of her travel um in this meeting.

Okay. And are there any questions on any of the travel for this? Okay. Motion to approve just all right. Next we have [Music]

you have anybody that wants to speak? Yeah, we have we have a number of people who like to speak. We have um we have uh four people um I don't know if Mr. Mrs. Dyer would like to speak together or independently but they're both here. Chuck Dwire and Ginaire. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. 610 North. You want to do it individually or do you want to go together or what? Individually. Okay, that's fine. Mr. Car.

Um, good evening everybody. My name is Chuck Dwire. You folks up there have known me for a long time. Um, of course I now like Kafe in the entire corner of six and Maine across the street from Peppers. I've got attendance there. My wife and I put in the invasion station, the gift shop with the spaceship on the roof. We're here tonight about the homeless thing and we lived and we're down there all day. Last Saturday we had tourists, I don't think for the air show or for the alien, but we had a store full of tourists and one of the women cries out. She's got kids, three of them, little kids. Oh my god, there's a naked lady outside. My my one employee goes to the front door and there's a woman out there completely new. Completely nude. Now they've been told, "Don't confront the homeless people." But he there was chill. He went goes, "Lady, you had to go." She squatted down on the ground. I wish I had pictures. She squatted down on the ground and started urinating in front of him. Reached down and grabbed a handful of it and threw it on him. Now, of course, we called the police. She got arrested. She'll go to that Sunrise place, I'm sure. And we've had at least 20 of them arrested in the last three or four years. Every day I have to come and once they go to Sunrise, they're out in what, 3 days, and they're right back out there. They're they're they're defecating on my property every morning. I have a routine. I show up, I walk around the building with a shovel and a little rake. It's it's I've got a whole thing you're not supposed to read, but it's it's gotten out of hand. I was born and raised in RS. I spent 27 years in California. I left there with my two boys cuz I didn't want to race like that. It is getting terrible down there. I don't know what the answer is. I'm just a dumb old locksmith. I will unlock a car in a minute. I don't know how to fix that. The the the uh the kitchen that

feeds them across the street from my property, I know they got to eat. I feel terrible for them, but that place is drawing them to downtown like magnets. This air show with all these people, the regular tours we've had for years, they're seeing all this mess. They all come to my invasion station and they they take the pictures outside. Then they walk down to McDonald's and they walk down to uh the doughnut place and they're having to step over this mess. Last year I walked out to the alley checking for poop and there was a pile of hypodermic needles. I called the mayor's office. Lady told me to call code enforcement when I pulled down. They says, "We don't deal with that. Whose property it's on?" I go, "Well, it's actually on Sunwest Centers. the stuff that's on mine children. If it's on your property, it's your problem. I see all this stuff in the news about fentanol and not messing with. I had to go get some pliers. I picked them up, put them in an old coffee can, bent over, smashed with a hammer, crushed it, took it to a county um dumpster uh compactor cuz they didn't want to just throw in a regular dumpster. The homeless thing is getting crazy downtown. We're down there every day, all day. We're seeing it. They're dropping their pants and pooping. They're exposing their penis to my wife, to our tourists. We just thought about coming here a couple days ago. The next time I come, I'm going to come with pictures and I'm going to have made the posters. I'm going to show you what the tourists are seeing. This can involve dudity and poop and needles and downtown is turned into Los Angeles. San Francisco where I used to live. It's getting really, really bad. I don't, like I said, I don't know what the answer is. My 3 minutes

probably up. That kitchen needs to get moved off of Main Street. They're drawn to there. I don't know how to do it, but there's got to be something done. If not, it's just going to get worse. It's your time is up. Okay. It's just going to get worse and worse and worse and then all of a sudden you go, "Oh my god, what do we do?" Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Best. [Music]

Good evening everyone. My name is Gina Dwire and I'm Chuck's wife. I had my agency in one of our rental spaces down on 100 block of West 6 and where I also experienced episodes with the homeless. I had one homeless man like Chuck said expose himself. He went to the door total. I mean it was like he wasn't seeing his reflection. He just and he pulled down his pants and I was like, "Oh my god." You know, of course I called the police. He was gone. I think he did it to somebody else and he got arrested later that day. Um, there were two instances where I was working in our invasion station store, souvenir store, and a deranged man came in looking for another man who I was alone in the store. He comes in with an axe handle threatening to kill this man. I mean, I'm like sitting there just like freaking out, you know, and it's like happened twice, you know, just like once and twice in a row. That was scary. Um, okay. The list can go on and on and on. You know what's going on. Okay. Um, but because of all this dangerous stuff, dangerous ongoing threats, I have been forced to carry pepper spray in my pocket when I get out of the car. I have to always look, you know, my surroundings or whatever. If there's a homeless man or woman, you know, laying on the parking lot, I'm forced to get in my car, park it somewhere else where it's safe. This is where I work. This is where I've worked for over 15 years, and it's gotten really, really bad. I don't feel safe. Okay? And I know for a fact it's not just our block. It's all of downtown Roswell, and it affects our entire city. The issue needs to be resolved. A lot of the homeless people have mental issues. They're putting our

lives in danger. Their presence and behavior, I believe, intimidates both the locals and the tourists. That's a that's a tourist place. You know, what do you do when somebody sees a woman stark naked and she's got small children? So, in my opinion, the problem part of the problem exists because of the current location of the food bank. After they eat, they take naps and do whatever they're going to do. We have nothing against the homeless and my heart goes out to them. Um, but a relocation of the food bank I think would be a start to the resolution. Thank you.

Thank you very much, ma'am. Uh, uh, chief responder, mayor, counselors. Um, they're correct. Uh we've seen an uptick lately just even in the last two weeks. So the the lady that was nude in the street, I bet we've arrested a dozen times for the same thing since I've been chief in two two and a half years. Um it's revolving door to her. They send her to Sunrise, find her incompetent stand trial and she's right back out. um some of the issue to run into. I think just even in the last two weeks, we arrested a homeless man for criminal sexual penetration and aggravated battery, I believe, on another homeless lady where he uh raped her and stuck a knife in her gun. Um they're they're getting violent. We're down our goal was at the first of the summer start patrolling downtown more cuz we had complaints. We're down 20 people right now and it's hard to get him downtown when we're going call to call. So, um we're still trying to go down. I know me and Deputy Chief Alana went and walked main street a couple times before and you know we're not hitting it at the right time or something, but yeah, we are seeing a homeless problem. I know we've had meetings with the opioid money trying to use that to come up with something, but it needs to be done. I mean, we're seeing it and it's now it's starting to reach out to the outer areas of the community where before it was a little focused on Main Street, North Main, South Maine. This morning we arrested a guy on South Maine and ended up finding fentanol with him and he was going up to businesses. The report was pulling a gun out. I don't know that we found a gun, but we did find fentanyl on him and arrested him. But he'll be out tomorrow. That's the problem we're running into. I do know the chief's association had a meeting in

Albuquerque last week and they had chiefs from all over the nation and a meeting and their biggest complaint was uh in their communities was homeless crime and how it's taking over their community. And the problem is we know how to attack robberies, homicide, stuff like that. our hands are tight. A lot of the panhandling laws, camping in in certain places in their tents, you know, the law a lot of them laws are going through the courts right now, but our hands are tied on a lot of it. So, I think the state needs to step up with more money for mental health. And we need to use that opioid money and finally come up with a plan and do something because we I think I sat in front of y'all a year ago or at least in committee that part of the problem is Sunrise. They get people from other communities and soon as their 72 hours is up, they tell them have a good day and they walk out and they become part of our homeless population. So that's part of the problem. Um the hospital of course uh the HIPPA laws and stuff is where they say they can't contact people to come pick them up and and stuff. I don't know that necessarily agree with that, but that's their their statement to us. So, we're trying to find we'll continue to try to hit downtown and the other stuff, but they're correct. There's there's a problem in this community and it gets better. It goes in es and flows. We arrest them and we'll be good for a couple of days, but then they're they're right out on the street doing the same thing. So, the lady, she's she's a problem in this community, every part of town. She doesn't sit on Main Street. She goes to different parts of town and we'll find her in the middle of the street naked different times of the day and arrest her or take her to sunrise and she's right out either either direction we go she's right out on the street within a couple days but I stand for any questions

yeah actually I don't know that I have a whole lot of questions because we have been meeting on this for about two years trying to find some resolution And I I would say that I think we're on a positive uptake. I'm so sorry that you guys are experiencing what you are. Um but it's kind of like trying to put the pieces together and figure out how to create the resources and um in a combined way where everyone's working together to solve those problems. Um, I will tell you, um, on a a positive note, uh, the Life House is building a mobile response team that would actually help in situations like this. And I think um, that with connections with all our agencies, dispatch, downtown, Sunrise, we can kind of figure out what the actual meat and potatoes of our issues are and how to find the solutions to address those. I also am aware that in October um the county is expected to put up an RFP for the opioid fund. And I um would hope that the council consider some means of utilizing our funds if that if that comes before us. Um Mr. and Miss Drier, I would ask um I am a counselor for your award. I would like to meet with you. Um I have questions and actually being informed and understanding when this is occurring. Um that type of stuff is what helps. Um Miss Geneva Martinez right next to you uh has been working with me for three years understand. So, um, I would love to meet with you and kind of see what that looks like and see what we can do to work together with the police department and different agencies to start coming up with solutions. And I actually, it's

interesting. It's about two months ago. Um, so I pastor three, four times a day and absolutely I would agree with you. We need to have conversations with Harvest Ministries about relocation. I don't think it's actually even safe for the people themselves because of just different situations where they are falling asleep or right right there in the middle of the lane and they're you know I I think we do need to visit with them. So thank you very much.

Is there is there any way that we can restrict who goes into uh Sunrise where they're from? From what I It's the only place in southeast New Mexico really I know Clovis and I think Hobbs are using opioid money to buy some build a mental health facility of somewhat. Uh hopefully that will slow down. But if Columbus Police Department arrests somebody and they're mentally unfit, they drive them to Rosel, drop them off at sunrise and 72 hours later they're Rosle's problem. A lot of times they say they give them bus tickets, but our buses run a couple times a week. So when you hand someone, tell them, "Hey, the bus stop for how long?" They end up at Harvest Ministries or something cuz that's right where the bus stop is. You know, I got a report uh yesterday there was people out there yelling and cussing in front of Harvest Ministries. And of course, our officers were tied up, especially with the air races. We, you know, were going call to call running short shift. So we couldn't get over there in time by the time the people left. But yeah, we can't restrict goes into the sunrise.

Tom say how?

So and I agree with you agreement years ago. We tried to do it just a group of people trying to figure out the homeless problem. We can't violate their civil rights and then the police officers they get frustrated too because they'll arrest them and then they're out the next day. So it's the judicial system too and adult facilities to keep the mentally ill. So we did try a campaign trying to tell people not to support the homeless for them to go to the places like ministries but the people don't they still have home so they stay where they are because they're getting the support they need. So we we see the problem the problem is we can't violate civil rights in the business. We can't tell a business where to to relocate and the police, I'm sure, are just as frustrated as you are because they're arresting them and then they're out the next day. We do see the problem.

Just don't have a solution at this point. We've been trying to work on something for years, all those years. It's just getting worse and worse and worse. Yeah. Charlie, one more question.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Of course, this is a problem that we've been discussing for every day and but I I just wonder and I'm just thinking out loud whether the city would be able to provide like a building of some sort like Albuquerque has the uh VA uh the old VA hospital that they turned into pretty much a home for the homeless. I I guess it's a question for people to to see if the city would be able to provide a building of some sort where they could go and kind of get them up main street. If you if you want my opinion, it's uh I don't agree with it. I think, and I hate to use this term because I feel bad for a lot of people don't want to be homeless. They go through rough times and they end up there. Some people we run into try to get them help and they don't want it. They want to live the freer life and do their own thing, which they can lawfully, but they use a term of like feeding cats. They start giving more and more and more and we're going to get more to our community. people in our team are going to hear, "Oh, Roswell will put you up in this facility and we can go there and we start housing a lot of people together. You saw in Albuquerque at that place, they started getting a lot of crime violence on the homeless people that are trying the ones that are trying to get sanctuary there are getting sexually abused. They're bringing narcotics in. To me, when you you get a big that's that's just my opinion is you you get a big

sum of them that's going to cause more issues. Um, you know, I might suggest, I don't know, Jan, we probably historically any kind of issues like this, mental health issues and health related issues, uh, have been something that the county historically deals with and the city has not dealt with that. And it's just like they had our hospitals and they sold it and and you know, they've got a big trust fund and everything from the money from that. Uh but somewhere I think that maybe we need to see where we can get together and uh see maybe with the county the county commission and the city and look and say okay now look we're going to have to do something when you there is a problem when you get too many together because of the the amount of people that you're required to have on staff to pay to to keep If you order in the facility,

specialized people. Yeah, they're specializing it too. It's expensive and and they're hard to find

and and you know, it's a problem that the state has never addressed. I mean, you know, if you go look at what a school counselor gets paid and go look at one of the where you have all these kids at CYFD dancing on the top of cars and and you know going in there have to stay in their offices and then they they walk out of the office whenever they want, come back when they're drunk and and here are these people and they're not they don't have any controls over those kids whatsoever. But if you look at their salary, it's probably 40% or more less than what a counselor in the school gets. They all have the same training.

That's exactly right, mayor. And to your point, Mr. Ora, uh the city is short buildings. Uh we're short square footage. Um we've lost an IT department, a parks and recreation building, an adult center, a civic center, a museum. We've had PD washed out. Um it's a longer list. Um we're struggling to find homes for all of our own people. Uh we've got IT department is out at our airport one facility right now. Um we've got uh the other issue is finding these uh folks that are qualified to to work um in that environment and and are willing to work in that environment. U but they're hard to come by. Social workers and counselors. uh the school district has had a long time problem finding those folks and bringing them to Rossville. So I think there needs to be some leadership both at the federal level and the state level. Another complicating factor if you want to Google on your phone is the Grants Pass case uh with regard to camping ordinances and cruel and unusual punishment. Uh that's in the air. Supreme Court has said uh you can establish ordinances to restrict camping in in public areas. Um a New Mexico uh judge has recently uh ruled against that. Um so it's still twisting its way through the courts. Uh very complicated problem, no great solutions and it's a nationwide problem.

Okay. Just a part of your point, I agree with Chief Baitman. The problem is first of all, it's anti-donation because why should the city pay someone housing? Let them not pay our housing. Um, and there are two there's a homeless coalition here. So, they have a place to go. The ones that are out there, the biggest problem we have is a mental health and drug issue. Not, you know, one or the other or both together. And that's where the state needs to step in and give us more support because the several of the homeless that they she probably allowed in the homeless coalition because she refuses to follow their rules, I'm guessing. So there's places they can go. They just don't want to go or they don't follow the rules. They're not allowed in.

And I would say in this state, uh I won't get too political on you, but um up north and Santa Fe, it's an everything problem. mental health. They don't attack and they have tons of money from southeast New Mexico and they don't want to spend it except keep it north of I40. And then the criminal justice system in the last 20 years, 20 plus years since I've been a police officer, they keep tying the hands of law enforcement. Um, every even cases where people aren't mentally ill, that's what they claim nowadays. They find an incompetent stand trial. Next time we arrest him, maybe a judge will find incompetent. There's no set system in New Mexico and it's a problem that we see on a daily basis of somebody that's we know is fit to stand trial and they're going to claim incompetence cuz their lawyer knows that's the way to get them off and judges in this state uh let them off and that's a problem where people need to start unelecting these people and I don't know I think our state north of I40s pretty much controls it all and we're kind of stuck with what they do. But till the people of this state start stepping up and getting rid of those people, we're we're going to be in the same problem. Just my opinion.

Mr. Mayor, Council President,

thank you, Mr. Mayor. you know, and I I I see what where you're coming from, and I agree that it would probably be something that would attract other individuals, but you know, the the my concern is I would hate for and I appreciate Mr. Dwire and Mrs. buyer coming in and bringing this up. But I I I have a concern that some of the businesses, the owners might take the law into their own hands. you know, they they may get so fed up with it that, you know, they they just get fed up and and take it up on their own hands because we as a city or whatever are unable to address the the problem and I know it's a nationwide thing and but that's that's my fear. think it was greater.

I think one of the last thing I'll end on is we're not seeing a ton of people camping in parks and stuff. A lot of these people are going into we're finding them in houses that have been um code enforcement is ruled inhabitable and they're going to the houses and we're arresting them and then they're getting back out on the streets. We um did a search war on a on a compound I would call it the other day that had nine or 10 homeless people and and drug addicts in this compound. Um so they're it's not at night like if you go out at night you aren't going to see a bunch of them especially in winter time that they have places to stay. They're not camping in downtown. Some aren't. Some will sleep behind a business or something, but during the day when they come out, which is the day when we have tourists out and business owners out and customers, that's when they're coming out and causing issues. So, it's not the problem. I think the laws restrict us on, you know, we want to house them. It's not the housing part. They're finding places to stay. It's during the day we're having a lot of the issues are going down and causing chaos and in the middle of the day and it's how do we how do we attack that? How do we find a better mental health for the ones that need it? And some people just need to go to jail for a long time. So our our judges need to step up and sometimes you need to just throw away the key some occasions and and they don't. in New Mexico used to be when I was a kid, you murder somebody, you're going going away for life for 30 years, 40 years. Nowadays, we're seeing our people were arresting for homicide and they're clean it down to manslaughter and they're out in 4 years. So, it's a criminal justice problem as much as it is mental health problem.

Mr. One last thing I want to let everyone know about and please correct me if I'm incorrect on this Geneva, but I think it was last year that um House Bill two and three were passed which are mental health bills and I think that there was close to what a billion senate bill

senate bill a billion was it a billion put in there on the side. So there is funding to actually resolve this. Um there are about five or six people in our community who I know spend a great deal of time understanding um those two bills and understanding how um we as a community can actually build something. And so there is funding there absolutely is funding regarding mental health and many of these different things that you're bringing up. I think the key is community and um government connecting and having serious conversations about how to put put applications in for those grants, what we need to accomplish, and it it doesn't have to be funded by the government. But I think we should all be having some serious conversations because there is money. Okay.

Okay. Thank you very much, Chief. Okay, next uh Miss Martinez, Geneva State Park.

Good evening everybody. Geneva Martinez, 3691 East Lodge. It looks like some of our counselors and our mayor was out in the sun today and I'm excited to go tomorrow. So, um three weeks ago the quality of life grant opened back up. Um, as you guys may know, the quality of life grant is what got us the plan and design, the $450,000 um for the plan and design, which was two years ago. Last year, that money was not available and we had the flood. We kind of knew that we needed to find grants that had no matching. Um, those grants are kind of makebelieve grants and they really are hard to come by. But three weeks ago, the grant did open back up. Um, I was able to, uh, talk to the mayor. Uh, he gave me some pointers on how to write the grant. Um, I met with engineering, parks and wreck, um, finance. This was a really a big team effort to pull this together as the the grant is due tomorrow. Um, this morning we hit sit on the grant. Kathy Litz had to retype every single word into the state. We couldn't do copy and paste, but I sat with her for two hours and she got the grant submitted today. This grant has no matching funds. Um, so we will not be asking for any funding from the city. Um, there's not a cap on what we could ask. There's a $50 million pot. Uh there was lots of municipalities looking into uh this quality of life grant because they've already did 450,000. I think we have a really big shot to receive more funding. Um we met with we spoke with and met with Dalton. Um he

was um with American Ramp Association. they were the team with um Bhennon in Houston, the team that came out to do a lot of the uh plan and design and um he got us some quotes. If we receive this money, it has to be spent by June 30th. He let us know that he is confident that if we get the funding that can be completed. So we went all the way and we asked this was you know our magic pot of money. So, our pot of gold, we wanted to ask for as much as we could with what we could. So, what we did is we did ask for the full amount of $6,956,000. [Music] We may not see it all. We may not see half of it, but um hoping that we will see a portion of it. So, um just wanted to let y'all know that that was submitted today. We're very excited. Um you the UFO Skate uh collective has been, you know, even though we didn't know if we would ever break ground on this, they continued doing um park cleanups and they continued doing um park events, skate park competitions. Um this has the potential to really bring in some funding into our city, not just quality of life for our kids, but also generate some funding as well. And I do have um some language and um some figures um for everybody if they would like to see those as well.

Thank you. Questions from members of the committee. appreciate you taking this.

Yeah. Yeah. Gina, thank you so much because when I look at this the when you look at the number of people that have had had their plans already go through and had them already approved that this really gives us a great opportunity and and uh when I was talking with her, I think you know about realistically uh looking at where we are. I think we have a real good shot at getting this and she they put it in two phases. So, you know, the first phase is a very significant thing that is in keep keeping in tune with the amount of money I think that they gave us to to plan with and uh so I think there's a a real good opportunity with this Geneva. I would probably I would seemed like as I recall somewhere along the line you all had a a letter of support from Tony Hawk or somebody. Am I wrong on that or was that a different plan?

Um, we we did have a one of our skaters that was recognized and won a competition for Tony Hawk and um took he took pictures with um the skate uh t-shirt that Cory made. Um so we did have some PR. Yeah. And he signed the petition

along with like another a bunch of other pro skaters. We had at least 20 pro skateboarders who are very well known in I'm just thinking if you if you can reach out to some of them, show them that that what you already had this grant and see if they won't like write a letter of support and maybe see if you know just say well you know can maybe some of you all come to our dedication when we if we get this when we have it. Yes, I'm just saying it could uh it's all things that can stack up to give you more points. I mean, yes, sir.

More consideration when they're going through say, "Well, yeah, if you can get one, Tony Hawk said he'd show up with our dedication." All I'm saying is that that's just a thing in in the skateboarding world or whatever, whether it's Tony Hawk or who it is, but it's something that goes in that makes you you stand out special in your application. only have people just reading going through all the different competition you'll have. But it it shows it shows a little another level of thickness of your your ad. That's why I I uh one of the things I said I it's you know my my kids skate a lot and skateboard and and I mean you know uh you know they do a lot of it and and I know a lot of times people look down on those kids and yet they just would rather do play do skateboards and baseball.

Yep. And and you know and I and I I encourage her to keep it exactly where it is so everybody in the house can see it. All of those kids, it's just like skateboard.

Be a oneofa-kind skate complex that New Mexico has never seen before. that will be UFO themed and really be um tailored to to what our community um can showcase and what people will come to to skate this. Um along with the roller derby track too, um our very first roller derby bout, we sold 200 tickets in 24 hours. And so if we can bring back competition style roller derby along with um skate park competitions and BMS and really bring the pros in, this is going to be a fantastic um addition to our community. In my latter life, I the kids in Artisia approached me and a teacher from there and city council teacher uh from there approached me about getting them out of the the big dip on First Street, whatever the the uh drainage canal that's there for the Pinasco River or whatever it is that going through there on that side. Uh, and they they got together and they had the kids design the park if I would ask for funding for it. And you know, when they did that, they had almost after we we got got them the money, they designed the park and we had almost absolutely no vandalism in that thing ever. Everybody treated that with with the utmost respect and and it was all because those kids all they they had their hand in the game and they had their picks and uh and I was always amazed because our teachers skate park was a little more competitive than ours I think as far as roy but uh any further questions or

Mr. Mayor.

Yes ma'am. Uh so just in having followed this um with with everyone um for a good minute. I think one of the most fascinating things about um is is the the kids you helped build that park for now adults and they still skate. So this is not only a youth project. This is a a project for all of us. And I truly believe that what is actually designed is not only for skating. there's so many things that can actually be done at the park, events, all different kinds. So, this is a revenue stream for um for this community and for the state. Um and so to have um been very lucky to have even gotten the plans paid for and fingers crossed um you know, we get we actually get the grant um I'm actually truly looking forward to all the exciting international skate competition. Yeah. Yeah. And thank you. Christina did um supply us a letter of support. And if there's any other counselors that would like to do that, we can still attach that to our um application. And if you don't mind, I'll pass these out to you guys.

Okay. Okay. If you would please. Thank you. And Tori. Hello. Hi everybody. I'm Tori Hornick. It's been a while. Um, in the wake of last year Oh, your street number. Oh, 1404 West 8th Street, Roswell, New Mexico.

And then, hold on a second. And so, in the wake of last year's club, Roswell skate community has stepped up in a big way, organizing trash pickups, not just at the skate park, but also other parks and rec recreational areas hit hard by debris. This initiative highlights the skaters commitment to our town's well-being, showing they're about more than just riding rails. Looking ahead, the community is hosting a registered skaters to vote. This event will be on September 21st. It's designed to get young skaters involved in local politics, providing info on city's officials and their positions on supporting current and future skateboard projects. The goal is to help skaters make informed decisions that benefit youth and recreational opportunities in Roswell. Adding to our uh community engagement, November 2nd is the 6th annual UFO skate bash. Already backed by 2,000 um dollars in product donations along with other events including a Halloween get together and more. We plan to continue our participation in local events such as the parades and other um things that we're asked to be like other Roswell Main Street stuff we've been involved in. Um and this is continuing our um supporting Roswell and showing our dedication to um the next generation. Sorry, I lost my spot there. But yeah, so basically we are hosting um an event on September 21st where we are asking anybody who's 18 and above who's you know old enough to vote who would like to vote and want to know more about the people running. And so I have got a list of everybody running and we I've tried to reach out to everybody through emails just you know to get their stance on recreational stuff because the younger people even from 30 to 18 they are asking these questions. They want to know who's been helping and who actually wants to see the youth, you know, evolve and because the the 14y olds are the

biggest um group of the the public demographic that we have right now. And you know, we need to build for their future and give them something to do besides just, you know, drugs and eventually homelessness and dropout GD type stuff. But yeah, but that's all just all I'm here to say today. Thank you. Thank you very much, Graham. Um there's already [Music] [Music]

Oh man, just always find Thank you all very much for coming and No, you're welcome. So that's good. Okay.

Okay. Is there anyone else who would care to address the council for any reason?

Got three minutes. Anyone else? Okay. Seeing none, next we have item number three which is item number three. [Music] [Music] [Music] Okay, council council.

Mr. Mayor, members of the council, I'm here to answer any questions. This is pulled off consent. Bobby, Mr. Bobby Thompson is down at the intersection. [Music] Okay. Here to answer your question. Okay.

Mr. I'm actually the one that requested that we pull this off the consent agenda. Um part of my reasoning and I do recognize um that Miss Thompson is is out. Um um first off, I I actually was concerned about the $300 fee and $100 renewal um because being in business of of actually had fees to pay and I found that one a little exorbitant for it just um statistically doesn't match the typical feed business fees for New Mexico. I felt like it was, you know, way above and then in doing research, I can definitely say it is exponentially more than most business fees in New Mexico. Um, but if there is a regulatory requirement such as financial institutions, the you know administration administrative fee can be higher. Um, I kind of wanted to ask Miss Thompson what does she have to do that's different than what um community development would have to do for the $35 um business license? That was kind of one question and why is that why is that fee so high and what kind of work goes into that? Do the administrative costs actually warrant that type of fee? Um, you also have to look at that these businesses are taxpayers. Um, so they've already kind of paid for administration by paying their taxes. So to me, a $50 fee sounds a little more accurate. And I'm not sure why you have to do the fee every year. Um, uh, that's why I kind of wanted to understand what her logic behind that

was because I totally support the form. in researching the form. I understand exactly why it's needed in compliance. Um but what are they applying for? Is it a permit? Is it licensing? um it doesn't really kind of say that and um so that was kind of a lot of my um question and I just had a lot of questions for her and also wanted to um suggest that we reconsider that amount but it's just too high in my opinion.

All right, I heard about five or six questions tucked in there so I'll answer what I can. So, first this is an application to conduct business on the airport. It's the standard operating procedure. Um, presently we have a significant this is a a legacy issue with our leasing policies in the past that we no longer do. We have people subleting without the city being told. So, we have people operating aviation businesses which are highly regulated uh without the owner of the property knowing and using our public spaces. So this creates significant issues whether it's with FAA compliance, TSA compliance or EPA compliance predominantly. Uh so and as well as state regulations. Uh in particular why this is more complicated than something like a business registration is that a business registration needs a name and a taxpayer ID number fee. This by contrast we will be looking for applicable part. Oh gosh, part 49 council off the top of my head, but we're looking for So, if you were look at page five of your packet, you'll see that airframe and power plant maintenance, aircraft rental, avionic sales and maintenance, hanger storage, aircraft sales. These all have particularized and rather specific requirements for EPA, FAA, and on occasion TSA. They also have each unique requirements for insurance policies and uh the big one for us actually is EPA. Uh we need to know exactly what they're doing and we have to monitor it because it's part of our Slip compliance process. So I think that answers one and two. Um Miss Thompson to my understanding but I have not been an airport manager elsewhere simply based this upon what other airports charge to her knowledge. uh now is far at so that's third question and last question I'm missing your fourth and fifth questions but I think that answers a chunk of it

well I was just asking well I'm not sure that I remember the order I put them in um um I I yeah I'm actually highly in favor of the compliance understood the concept of that what I wanted to know was what what are the actual administrative actions that are going to require $300 and um because when I think of administrative, I think that basically they're asking people to provide this to get into um so that we actually are very aware that they're compliant while working with us. But do they do anything other than enter the data into the computer? Is there um

No, you have to verify that that's what they're doing. Uh swift reports are quarterly or with every rain event. So this in our case this year we've had quite a few uh similarly. So, I mean, the way I think about it is you're you're paying somebody who should ideally understand what aviation insurance looks like, what let's say what the deputy airport manager should be doing. If you pay him 30 bucks an hour and he does 10 hours per person working there, you get to 300. And depending on the tenant, it could be a lot more than that.

Okay. Yeah. This is not facially unreasonable. Here's the the bottom line is that if the council wishes to amend it, they can do so immediately.

Oh, absolutely. I'm just making the point that to me I I think that that's, you know, um I I can see a business charging these types of fees, but I would kind of assume that making sure everyone is compliant on any air air center would be part of someone's job. Um, so, um, I I get that you want to charge a fee. I personally think that and I actually believe in legal someone suggested $150 $150 fee. So, um, I just um I I don't support the $300. I don't have the knowledge to understand what should be recommended except for what the average that, you know, the state even for a general um, you know, to get a LLC from the state is is a third of this. Um but so that's why I'm just kind of I I didn't see any other municipal airports that charge that much either. So, um I said invisible. Um anyway, so I don't Well, I just know my voters. I don't support this and I don't know.

No. And C, if you I'm trying to pull up what? So, there's only three 139 airport four 139 airports in the state and I can't find I'm trying to pull up Albuquerque, but it sounds like you pulled them up. So what are they? No, actually what I did was just a basic data search and asked for municipal airports that have this state of New Mexico and I did not find any others as well. Do they require this?

I bet I can't answer but Santa Fe, Albuquerque and US. That's it. and and I don't know, but I can tell you that I've seen stuff over the years that were going on that was highly questionable to me um under other leadership. And I think we're playing catchup. It's trying to find out what the heck's going on in a lot of those places. And PPA is a problem uh because aircraft have lots of really bad stuff on them that are hazardous and where you're taking airplanes apart. We've had a couple of fires out there and tear down pads cuz I don't care how you are. You can't get all the stuff out there until you se the line. And that's what they do when you start chopping them up. Sing the lines. Some of our pads are have drainage systems to try to mitigate this problem. Other pads out there do not. Some of concrete slabs. Um, and it's a problem we need to deal with and my suggestion is I don't have any feel for the fee structure that would be $300, $150, $100, whatever. If you care to amend it, then let's talk about that and face your objection. But we've got to start somewhere to figure out what all is really going on our is this move in that direction.

I'm a hanger. I'm not conductive business [Music] for council. Hello Randy. You haven't spoken yet, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. You know, at legal committee, we listened to this and the recommendation was from the airport manager who has operated I don't know how many different and we took it as her recommendation and she had done her homework and felt that this was a property and that's why it passed at legal committee 5 to zero. So, thank you, Mr. Mayor.

Any further comments there? Um if I might just and then you can speak a second time. Uh one of the things that's uh they're out there is it this kind of information I know it seemed like a lot when you look at just like was it POS they call it the fire that puts everything out. Um, you know, that stuff when you look at it, it's it's contaminated all over the state and it's extremely difficult to get rid of and it seems like um and and the government's been very reluctant to get it out of the the water table and we have already have contamination over at the airport. We have an area where we're providing water to uh because of contamination. I think if I'm not mistaken, we had a we had a fire that was rather large and uh extremely uh hot out there. Uh and there were some things in there that weren't supposed to be in those buildings that were in there that started the fire. And uh I think as I recall there anyway, the item was in there was burned up and it was plugged in. So they knew exactly we had a really good idea where the fire started. U so I think a lot of this is is we have to have some of this information because we will become a party of the suit if someone's injured because we didn't have have the right questions there because they were in they were injured on our field. If if uh somebody who's teaching somebody how to fly, if their plane uh doesn't have the right certifications and everything else, uh then we could we could be brought into a

lawsuit because we didn't check check their uh their credentials and aircraft properly. Uh, I think there's a lot of things in here that this is a somewhat general, but the the fire department out there and all the employees out there have to know exactly what they're getting into when they go into things. Uh just like uh when they're out there the other day the airplane was shut down because somebody cut them cut a a line going to the tower that wasn't on the books and it controlled the radar. And so we we got in trouble for that. And yet the radar hadn't worked for two or three days because there was other problems with it. And we had, you know, they sent us a notice of how bad it was. And we cut this line, but the line hadn't been working for two or three days because there the radar was defective and and we couldn't get anybody here to fix it. So, it's just I think this is just I think they're grabbing it to have people report the knowledge they have of what and what they're doing so that we don't send a fireman into a POS fire or something else with in some way that's going to cause them to get injured. Uh this and so it's going to make people tell us what what how they're destroying aircrafts and cutting them up and and they're not just letting fuel and other things running the ground the earth and I mean that's what she's saying about the council councelor Cortez

Mr. Mayor Council, how about a quick question? Just trying to understand the scope of problem of course the solution that we're presented. Are these people how does a person operate on the air base behind the fence without are these subcontractors? Are these how are these people operating on the base? Yeah. Subs. So So this forms a problem.

Yeah. And there's this bifurcation between TSA and the airport operations. If somebody has business on the airport, then they get the DSA badging if they can show how they're necessary to that business. We don't actually have any rule that prohibits people from operating on the airport. Okay. That's the weird

Yeah, we're trying to understand. It's because you know uh I uh my company contracts and subcontract services and we work on air force bases and you know um lots of clearances and those sorts of things. I guess my question is how that if the root if the root cause is a subcontractor problem and how come we're not it seems like the problem would be to address the prime contractors on the base and how we set up our I'm not saying this is the solution but part of the solution is identifying your subcontractors and your subcontractors generally have to buy subcontracts somewhere one if I'm subcontracting someone I have to follow under that prime contract agreement where I have to maintain the insurance required so it doesn't seem like it's not random people going out and working on the base they're all going and working for people that are already established on the base right

I I think I better understand your original question the uh subcontracts aren't the it is the sub lessers who are the problem so we have in pretty much every lease that predates me. It was cart launched a sublet without informing the landlord. Okay. And is that something that we are going to be phasing out? That's completely phased out. Well, yeah, it it's not allowed anymore. Okay.

Every every sub so under New Mexico law, a subtenency that's reasonable has to be allowed if or you wave any damages for breaking the lease. And so what we've done now is put in all tenencies must be per sub tenencies have to be in writing from us. we reserve the right to put a new market valuation on the lease if it's a longer term lease. So as we move into newer leases or updated leases, this problem will be solved at the budget at the end of the budget. Yep. Okay. Yeah. But that's anywhere from 15 to 20 years away. How far?

15 to 20. How many how many current contracts do we have on the airport that are operating under a long-term lease that is not to your or are moderately standard when you say longterm over 10 years. Okay. As well at least eight. Okay. Um and most of those are for hangers. So Okay. Thank you. The big ones from Hill. Mr. Mayor, I move that we approve the commercial operation application for the use of the Roswell Air Center. Second.

Okay. So, we have a motion to to approve it and a second by councelor Kevin. And we already had discussion. So, Mr. I forgot to I you never acknowledged everybody's Well, you do have you you do have a right to a second and you have asked to speak a second time. Go ahead.

Actually, I'm not negating anything about the value of the or the need out there. I understand compliance. That's what that's what I study. I comprehend it. What I'm questioning is the amount. And so the amount, that's all I'm asking about is simply why so much when we're already paying them to do an administrative job that evidently hadn't been done. So now we're going to charge people because we hadn't been doing we hadn't been creating the foresight to do it. So that being said, what I was going to ask is to make an amendment to the current form changing um I guess let me try to do this properly. I would like to make an amendment to the commercial operation uh application for use at the local air center with a fee to read $100. on page nine for the fee to be $100 and the renewal to be 50. That way we look at least as government not so business. So you want to make a motion after I this will be a to suspend the mot to make a motion. We have a vote. We have motion on the floor and a second. So

you want to change this stuff change it after after we pass this back and come back and finance or whoever you order. We got it on the floor. So, it's on the floor. So, should you like your pardon me? Okay. So, council would like to change item nine.

Mr. Mayor, sorry. I believe so. There was a motion already on the table and when the counselor moved to hear it again, that probably should have been interpreted as a motion to call the question. Is that council? There was already a If that's not what you're intending to do, then the council's motion is proper. Well, so there was a motion on the floor and so and you made a second motion to bring that. I brought it to the floor is what I was bringing. Okay. So that it could be amended. So I just brought it to the floor was all I did.

Okay. That's all you intended to. Okay. And then so counselor, you would you would like to amend it on change the $100 fee to fee fee to $100 and then the renewal to 50. Mr. Mayor, yes, ma'am. Should Can we do Shouldn't we be doing this without Miss Bobby? Isn't she doing that with those numbers? She know what those numbers should be. Why should we be changing this without her? I mean, I'm just I don't know. I guess we can do whatever we want.

Mr. for the the short answer is at at legal committee I recall the director not being particularly wet any number she gave a business recommendation based on 30 some years of experience what I will say is generally the airport is trying to run it even so if we don't make the money here it will simply express itself in other charges to tenants and so this is just an application for them so their application fee is $300 Yeah. So, when you're saying you think it's too much,

I just believe 300, especially for New Mexico, and I recognize she has a vast amount of experience. I've noted it from the day I met her and where I met her. What I'm saying is that it's too much. It's It doesn't fit. And I don't know what kind of experience she's had doing business here in New Mexico, but what I'm saying it just it doesn't look right. That's why I made him amendment and also started by saying I'm not so sure I should I feel like I should table this without Miss Thompson cuz she could express why she feels that. Yes.

Yeah. I needed her to explain are we recovering the cost or turning into trying to turn the city into a business? Is it is it actually trying to make money or truly trying to recover a cost? And she is the director. So therefore, that's why I started with should we table this? I would like to speak to her. Thank you.

Okay, I'm going to rule now. We have a motion on the floor to wa for a table. And now councelor Arnold has made an amendment that she would like to change the fee from $100 and a renewal to 50. Now, that's where we are right now. Is there a second to that motion? Oh, sorry. Oh, there was a second to the motion. Okay. So, we have second to the motion to amend to

amend. Okay. So, so we have a motion to amend by councelor Arnold, second by councelor Korn. All right. Any further discussion? Okay. If clerk would call the role on the motion to amend to 11 to 15 and those. Yes. If you call the role, then councelor Halverson, no. Councelor Arnold, yes. Councelor Cavin, no. Councelor Odessa, no. Councelor Johnson, no. Councelor Moore, no. Councelor Helenbrand,

no. Councelor Cortez, no. Councelor Korin, I second it. So yes, [Music] no. A confirmed and then two. The motion doesn't pass. We're on the original motion by u bringing it to floor by council head branch. Second by council corn or cabin cabin. Please call for that. So, any further discussion? Any further discussion? Seeing none, the clerk will call the role. Councelor Herson, yes. Councelor Arnold, no.

Councelor Cavin, yes. Councelor Odesta, yes. Councelor Johnson, yes. Councelor Moore, yes. Councelor Helenbrand, hi. Councelor Cortez, hi. Councelor Korn, yes. Council me. Yes. By voting in affirmative, one of the negative item 25 pass. Okay. Next, we have a we have a close session. [Music] Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm wait.

Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Okay. Item 21. Okay. Okay. Councilman Hilderbrand. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I move that we hold a public hearing to consider adopting proposed ordinance 25-05 amending chapter 2 of the Roswell city co regarding the city auditor appointment. Second. We have a motion by councelor Hailbrand, seconded by councelor Cortez. Okay. Is is there anyone council u Mr. H Mr.

Council Mr. Mayor, I think you guys might remember the special session you helped to to discuss this. I got nothing to add. Thank you. Okay. Could you refresh my memory? Let me pull up the YouTube. Any further discussions? Is there anyone in the audience who care to speak for or against it? Anyone in the audience speak for it? Okay. There's not. So, we have a A motion by council Hillbrand. Second by council Korn Cortez. I'm sorry. Well, you got the first three letters. What am I What did I do to make you make me on your mind? You

told me wanted a hamburger yesterday and it was my job. Wait till tomorrow. It's a clerk called the roll. Councelor Halverson. Yes. Councelor Arnold. Yes. Yes. Council. Yes. Councelor Johnson. Yes. Councelor Moore. No. Councelor Helen. Hi. Councelor Cortez. Hi. Councelor Korn. Yes. Councelor Maro. Yes. I have voted 9 to1.

91. We have We've got that now. We've got that all done. So now ma'am, thank you very much for being here today and we'll we'll make sure we get everything in order. So okay, now prom for the council Albertson for the closed session we have.

Mr. Mr. Mayor, I move that the council go into close session pursuant to NMSA1 1978 1015185 and 7 to discuss attorney client privilege pertaining to threatened or pending litigation through which a city is or may become a participant and pertaining to union negotiations. Second have a motion and a second to go into close session. Okay, move. We need a roll call. Yes. Call the role. Councelor Halverson. Yes. Councelor Arnold. Yes. Councelor Cavin. Yes. Councelor Odessa. Yes. Councelor Johnson. Councelor Moore. Yes. Councelor Helen. Hi. Councelor Cortez.

Hi. Council. Yes. Council. Yes. Okay. So, we'll go into close session. We'll be right back as soon as we're through.

Okay. Council back in open session at 8:07 p.m. We had a closed session pursuant to NSA 1978 1015 185 and 7 to discuss attorney privilege pertaining to this threat. or pending litigation in which a city is or may become a participant and pertaining to any negotiations. No action was taken and no votes were cast.

Okay. back in section. Okay, there's back in. Okay, now we have city manager. The city manager reports.

Yes, sir. Mayor Jennings, members of the council, I'll make it brief. I think Roswell and surrounding southeast New Mexico has a lot to be proud of this week uh with the opening of the air races here in Roswell. Um, a particular note, I just want you to be aware, um, for the last 20 some odd days, your airport staff, your maintenance staff at the airport, your IT and systems guys, your solid waste, your water department, your streets department, uh, Excel Energy, uh, Larry Parker, many others, uh, have without them this couldn't happen. Um they've been working night and day over 47 acres of uh asphalt uh out on our airfield um entryways uh electricity, water, RV hookups. Um just can't say enough about your city personnel uh and really a plethora of different individuals. The thing I've heard, the thing we keep hearing from different uh folks uh that we've talked to, the pilots love this raceourse. Not only is it safer, it's a faster raceourse. Uh the fans love the view of this raceourse. They can see the entire event. Now in Reno, they lost them in the hills uh and could not see the entire event. So the event organizers love the expanded space for vendors and growth. And uh I'll just tell you that uh the stole people uh short uh takeoff and landing folks outstanding group of individuals they say this is the best course that they've ever had. So with that I I thank you for giving us the uh the runway to uh make it happen and your people did and I think you got a lot to be proud of. Thank you sir. Okay, Josh.

I'll tell you something else. I mean, they got a job by the city of Roswell. Thanks to the state of New Mexico for kicking in lots of money. Yeah.

For this project. But the other thing that has really impressed me is the number of Roswell citizens that are volunteering their time out there to help us pull this off because we couldn't do it without their help, too. And I think we need to thank our citizens when you see them on the street. The report I'm getting from the people that I'm dealing with on a daily basis. They've been out there since spring are the people in Roswell are fantastic. They love love our community. I didn't hear any of them talking about the homeless because everybody's got homeless. It's it's been it's been a grand experiment and I think we hold it on and I'm looking forward the next years effort.

Okay. Well, all right. Well, thank you guys. Everybody, that's really true about that. Uh when you look at that, I know the historical society is out there doing one merchandise booth and they have 40 or 50 people in there and Elk Club's doing the other one and they've got 40 or 50 people in there. So, and the sales they told me today that the sales were today's sales were more like Friday sales in Reno. How much sales were going through on merchandise? said it or yesterday I mean it's really going well and uh so anyway and they a lot of the stuff that they had there were there's uh Mr. Annayia has a place out there in the across from Buenosert and he has a huge print shop in there and people ought to see it it's out in the county. Yes. He said he got some restrictions about people saying, "Well, that you're not in the city." But I I'm going to tell you, he did all the t-shirts for uh senior lesson. And he has a machine that probably has 25 t-shirt things on there, goes around, puts 25 different colors on that shirt and runs them all out through a dryer. And uh I mean, it's really state-ofthe-art. You need to see what he has. And uh and then I wasn't kidding really about the we have a the Mexico flag with five on one of the three on one of the three the four legs on one of the legs we have five five red rays from it instead of four. It was a printing error. But anyway, so it's really going well and our staff is people understand how well our staff did out there in plumbing and everything else. It's

really good. All right. And I'll be quiet. I would just like to uh seem to have a number of these babies. Uh this is the second time I think Tony's presented this budget. She was embarrassed to see it. Last time she gave it to you, just wasn't bound. So this time it's bound so everybody has it. Did I say that just the proper way tell you to get you in enough trouble? [Music] So anyway, and I thank everybody for being here tonight. Thank you. So anything else we have? Okay. Thank you.