City Council - Regular Meeting
About this meeting
- Government Body
- City Council
- Meeting Type
- City Council
- Location
- Roosevelt, UT
- Meeting Date
- August 18, 2026
Transcript
234 sections
The session is open. Members of the Goodrich and Cloud Council are present, and we have Ben Bark online via Zoom. And of course, I am Tommy Olson. That being said, we move on to the opening ceremony. Okay, it's my turn for the opening prayer, if you can guide us for the sermon then. Our Heavenly Father, we are really grateful for this opportunity to meet tonight as a municipal council, mayor, employees and interested residents. We present ourselves before you in the name of our citizens and residents of Roosevelt, and we ask you right now to bless us with your spirit. We will work for them and keep them in mind in the projects we are seeking to promote. and we ask you that your spirit be on this meeting, that you guide us with your hand, and we open this in the name of Jesus Christ.
To the flag of the United States of America to the Republic that it represents. A nation under God, indivisible, with freedom and justice.
On this, I am ready to receive any motion to approve the verbal trial or any discussion on this subject.
I have no problem with the motion to approve the verbal trial.
Very well, I have a motion to approve the verbal trial. One second. Thank you. At this stage, we are moving on to the period of comments from the public. 15 minutes for 3 minutes per person. We simply ask that when you approach the room, you also indicate your name. We open the session here. My name is Chris Martin.
I live on the 1000 West. I am a teacher in a public school. We have been living in the Dachshund for 11 years. J'apprécie cette ouverture pour pouvoir parler aujourd'hui. Ma préoccupation concerne les infractions au code de la route sur la ligne Ouest. J'ai deux jeunes enfants. Mon aîné apprend actuellement à faire du vélo. J'ai quatre enfants et cela dure depuis de nombreuses années. J'ai des documents que j'ai conservés ces dernières années. Sinon, tous An incident that does not appear is when two teenagers were racing in the parking spaces on the side of the road. We had razors. These teenagers were going at 55 or 65 km per hour.
It is not certain.
The immediate measure that I am asking for, and I hope that it will be taken by October, would be the installation of panels, attention, U children, on 1000 West. for the next 18 months. What I would like is to have some sort of bloodhounds. Some cities are using speed bumps. I would like at least two games to be installed around the perimeter of Constitution Park to slow down traffic. As a resident, and according to the other residents I spoke to in our street, we called several times the city service. We have the impression that no amendment has been made. We don't even know if interventions are taking place. It doesn't seem to be effective. So that's my concern.
Thank you for listening. I appreciate your action to help protect our children. Thank you. Thank you Christ.
Thank you. My name is Kirk Marot, and I'm going to ask Chris to transmit some documents.
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to express myself tonight. My remarks concern financial responsibility, transparency and conformity of the city to the requirements of state declarations. I'm going to ask the council if it will accept that what I present to you be added to the formal trial.
I am deeply concerned by the fact that the city still does not respect the requirements of state financial declarations.
The Utah law requires that annual financial reports be submitted in 180 days following the end of the fiscal year. Based on the information provided by the Utah Audit Office, the December 1st reports are still a little late, and the revenues distributed by the state have been retained since April.
Using information accessible to the public, I estimate that more than $1.7 million of the city's income is currently retained while waiting for compliance. These funds are intended for public safety, roads, essential services and the functioning of the city. The auditor's application process provides for opinions and opportunities to correct gaps before sanctions are imposed. This did not happen overnight. The fact that the city of Roosevelt is facing this consequence for the second consecutive year should concern the elected officials as well as the residents. The audit results in themselves are not unusual. What is worrying is when similar findings appear year after year without significant resolution. According to the audits of the city, the 2020 exercise was the last year in which the city of Roosevelt received a virgin audit without any observations. Since then, observations on financial information, internal controls and budget compliance have been repeated. At a certain stage, recurring observations are no longer isolated problems. They become the proof of a systemic problem that requires the attention of leaders. The question asked to the Council is not to know if these problems exist. Statement delays are documented. Audit observations are documented.
Income retention is documented. The question is to know what the Council is going to do about it.
I respectfully urge the Council to demand a public corrective action plan, to establish clear deadlines for the return of the city to conformity and to provide regular updates until all the required reports have been deposited and the revenues held free.
I also encourage the Council to improve transparency by making public documents available at the same time as the orders of the day, including budgetary documents, call tables, proposal requests, contracts and staff reports.
In addition, I encourage the Council to consider implementing an internal audit function or periodic internal controls in the context of the management of fraud risks and the governance framework of the City.
Identify the effects proactively. 10 seconds.
I urge, apparently the point has been made, I simply ask the council to report any discussion concerning the selection of the auditor of the city until the audit of the exercise 2025 is completed. The residents of Roosevelt deserve to have the assurance that corrective measures are taken and that these problems will not continue to repeat themselves. Thank you for your time, your service and your attention.
Kurt asked for this to be added to the verbal trial. It will be up to the municipal council to decide if it should be added. Oh, sorry, I have to go back one step. Are there any other comments from the audience? Okay, I see that there are none. So let me go to this site.
Do you need a motion on this subject? We can add these two documents. Documents, what do you call them in today's verbal trial?
I have a motion to add the two documents to the verbal trial. Other discussions?
I agree. I support.
All those in favor? Motion approved. These will be added to the verbal process. Okay. On that note... This was... It's a bit sweet and bitter, Chad. I'm sure it's sweet for you, but... Chad, we want you to be here tonight because you've been the face of the public for how many years now?
26. 26 ans. C'est toute une carrière pour beaucoup de gens.
Alors, nous aimerions prendre ce moment pour vous honorer ce soir. We want to give you this gift bag.
We really want to give you this. I will speak very loudly because it is written, Chad Mortenson, in recognition of your many years of devoted service, commitment and invaluable contribution to the tradition of the UBI.
The backpack is really yours. He put his knee on the ground.
Thank you very much. Thank you very much. It's for Mary. Well, Jen, I want to leave you a moment and ask you a question. Do you want to share with us your favorite UBC moment? Do you know my favorite moment? It comes back every year because you can share it publicly. It happens every year.
Something is forgotten, something is missing. Without any doubt, we can count on this community to ask them for a service and they come to help. I think it happens at any time.
One year. They had forgotten the cables. I ran into a company. Petroleum company. I need this or that plug with wires. It's a big wire section like that, one inch thick. Oh yeah, we have that. Here, take it. We don't have a good battery for a batter. I went to a guy, I talked about a new battery. Take my battery. Take, take my battery. We needed wires.
And the guys said, you won't find that anywhere.
I was going to talk to the church down here. It turns out that they had this thread so that we can continue. So without any doubt, it is the help of the community that allows this event to last for years, thanks to the help you ask for, to the volunteer people who help organize each part of the UIC and also to the people who contribute to make the UIC live. It's incredible that we can set up a show like this one for free, without people being paid. And it's an extraordinary thing. Even the people of Salt Lake, the guys from production, come and put us in place. They are shocked that we can do that.
To have so many people who come and offer an environment where everyone can have a good time. Thank you, Chad.
If you'll allow me a minute. Chad has led a life of service. My first experience with Chad was at Bacon Park during the Klondike, as a 12-year-old scout. Maybe 13, maybe 14.
But you were there to guide us, us others, and that's the kind of person who is here. That's the kind of person Chad is.
That's the kind of person Chad is. That's the kind of person Chad is.
That's the kind of person Chad is.
That's the kind of person Chad is. That's the kind of person Chad is. That's the kind of person Chad is.
Yes, I'm going to look for a leader.
My name is Jason Cholson, and yes, I am part of the Huita Bayzin chapter of the API. A few months ago, we came to your advice to ask you to consider canceling tournament fees for our annual golf competitive tournament, since it was our 50th year. And in the name of the country, we want to say thank you and express our gratitude for canceling these tournament fees, these game rights.
I talked to Mayor Olsen a few weeks ago.
He asked me when I would come to give you a recognition award that he would like, as well as the council, to obtain some financial figures on what we have done for the tournament. We can say without mistaking that in 50 years we have played 50 golf tournaments and that we have collected around 1.7 million during these 50 years to give back to the local community and charity groups. But this year was the most important, we were able to raise 178,850 dollars.
Thanks to the financial donations and the golf subscriptions,
In addition, we were able to raise 45-600 additional dollars in services and goods donations. And if you have already participated in Tornado Golf, you know that this is all food on the route of gift bags and other things like that. After expenses of 88,752 dollars this year, for the very first time, we were able to distribute 90,000 to our local charity associations, our families, our individuals and our organizations throughout the Intap and SAC. And I sincerely want to thank again the Roosevelt family and especially Josh and Rich Olson for allowing us to do all this. Thank you. And we have a small reward for you as a sign of appreciation. This is the other diamond level sponsorship that we have in the country. Quick, take a picture guys. You're doing very well. Same here. I'll take a few here too. On the count of three. One, two, three. One, two, three.
I think the only thing I want to clarify about Jason's words is that we came to the committee to ask for help and support, and it was Roosevelt City who suggested to cancel the fees.
We didn't ask them to cancel the fees. We just wanted to know if we could get a discount, and it was Roosevelt City who suggested that. It was Josh Bay who suggested to cancel the fees for us. So it was your initiative. Thank you. The figures are exceptional. Thank you. Good job, everyone. Good job.
I like it. Good job everyone. Very well, we have finally come down from our little hill. Okay, actually no, we will stay on this positive launch. Actually, I would like to present to you the nomination of the treasurer of the city and submit this nomination. to the approval of the Council. If you would please stand up. Here is London Monski.
Good evening.
Josh and I have undergone a long process of consultation and we have been able to discuss with her to reach an agreement.
So I present to you the nomination of London Monski to the position of treasurer of life for Question.
The date of the beginning could be a question and it would be the 31st. I propose a motion for approval. A motion for approval. I have a second. I have a second. Any other discussion? I'm approved. Congratulations and welcome.
On this note, I will pass the floor to Zeck for a re-opening of the budget, then we will move on to the public audience.
Good evening to the board. We have before us a budget opening request for the fiscal year 2027. I will examine the points one by one and if you have any questions along the way, you can either interrupt me or ask me your questions. The first point, in the General Fund, concerns animal shelters. The request aims to add funding for animal shelter uniforms. This was included in their initial budgetary request, but it was omitted due to inadvertence between this time and the integration into the budget. We therefore ask for $ 1,600 for this. The Department of Administrative Services asks for funding for a post in full time from the financial technicians and financial technicians. There are currently funds in the budget of the administrative services to cover part of it. There are additional funds in the organizing service that we would transfer to cover the rest. There would therefore be no additional demand for the current budget.
It would simply be a matter of transferring funds to cover this.
The leisure service for the shooting range needs an account for the public services. There is a mini-internet that controls the cameras and the portals on site, so 500 dollars are necessary.
For the court department, the lawyer brought us some changes.
I made a kind of approximate estimate of the cost for us.
It ended up missing about 700-500 dollars. We should therefore add 700-500 dollars more to this line. So for the general fund, a total demand of 900-600 dollars.
The fund for investment projects. The water center had two projects in progress approved in the budget of this year. Water stations and water filtration. The sale of the sand filter ended up costing more than expected. They estimated $15,000 and it cost about $30,000. They therefore wanted to combine these two projects, not to invest in water and focus only on the sand filters for a total cost of $30,000. Once again, it would simply be a matter of transferring these funds without additional additions. In the special projects, we have the firehouse, that of Dani, for which we did the training and demolition.
There, we had to add $10,000 to the budget, as agreed by the council. We just need to add that.
And it's a similar project to the one in Nova Inca. According to what I understood, it's a firehouse. We plan to do the same training and demolition, which would cost $15,000. The golf course had a purchase project of a Gator vehicle and two leaf blowers for exercise 26 and this project to be listed on exercise 27. So these articles should be received during exercise 27. We must therefore register them the year they will be received. The demand therefore consists of transferring this fund from exercise 26-26 to exercise 27. This represents a total of 7,000 euros. For the public services, the police, half of their fleet of vehicles in Lille arrived on time and almost all are in a negative credit situation. Instead of giving them back, we chose another route and asked Bancorp to take them back and rent them for three more years. The objective here is to try to prolong them a little longer in order to recover a certain value as we use them more. And once the value has returned, we will be able to sell them, buy them or do what we decide once this value is recovered. But for now, if we had to return them, we would be very deficient on these rental contracts. The demand is therefore to ensure that the bank retakes this buy for a cost of $ 175,200. The fire department has a special project, in addition to special projects related to the fireworks. With the ...
The fireworks.
There have been damage to some pyrotechnic equipment, they must therefore repair a part and make purchases for a reasonable price. We had planned to put in place a new bay for the new base as part of the special post projects. But concerning the truck, they will try to organize themselves together. They do not need another vehicle for this financial exercise. They therefore wanted to use the funds thus saved for fireworks. We will therefore transfer this vehicle bay of the special projects to the fire department of the fire service to help finance it. The last project is similar to that of the golf course, where it shifts from a 2026 to 2027 exercise project. The generator project takes more time, and it is therefore reported on exercise 2027. The demand is therefore to move this exercise project from 26 to 27 for a amount of $ 211,000. The total demand is $ 491,000. for a combined total of 490 dollars.
Could you clarify what you mean by not being deficient?
The point is that, given the current requirements, we estimate how much we will get for each vehicle.
And currently, the vehicle is not worth what it would take us. We should therefore end up paying back the money on this fence because they did not keep their value as planned at the beginning of the contract. We will therefore end up having to pay money in the context of the rental.
And to clarify the fireworks project, these are control panels, aren't they?
Control panels, some tubes, just a few improvements to make our equipment safer.
Question.
I would like you to specifically address the question of the beaux. Of course. There is a deadline approaching, maybe August 31st, to sign them. If you are comfortable with what Zig is proposing, you could approve them tonight and we could submit them to the mayor for signature. There are other options, I think, if you go into more detail about what they are. When I met them, I don't think any of them is a good option.
If you want more information before approving the reports, ZEC can go into more detail on this subject.
So some of the other options in your disposal, I do not have the exact number in mind, so these will be estimates. But if we had to stay on the current rental program, we would have to pay around 500 euros per month for the next years. So about a million dollars for the next few years. So the operation of these locations is that we have one payment less for the first four and for the last year it goes up and we should pay for this supplement. We would be owners of all the vehicles in terms of these two years, but we should pay about, pay about, about a dollar and not 500,000 dollars in taxes to get that. And then the other option would simply be to buy them all directly and that would exceed 9.5 million to be able to do it So Josh and I met Vanguard and Qunify to discuss our options and we estimated that it would be the most advantageous in terms of costs for the city to try to keep them for a few more years and to see if this value comes back instead of cutting short now. It's about 8 for you and then there is a handful for the public.
Other questions?
At this stage, I would open a public hearing with a motion.
I propose that we go to a public hearing.
A motion to move on to the second. I thank you. And at this stage, we open the public audience for anyone who wishes to speak.
Thank you. I would like to report the approval of this budget opening, with the exception of the rental vehicles. We would thus allow the public to ask questions on this subject. This is the first time I see this, and this is precisely what I was alluding to earlier.
This document was not available to the general public before I saw it on
On the screen, I would ask once again and respectfully that, with the exception of the vehicle rental contracts, given the deadlines, this motion be updated or partially renewed, according to the case, until the public has had the opportunity to review it. Also concerned by the fact that the city continues to hire staff in full time, It's a matter of concern for long-term financing if the local economy had to undergo a substantial slowdown. I'm worried about how the city is going to pay all its staff, because I don't want anyone to lose their job. Those were my comments. Thank you.
Thank you.
Any other comments?
It's your turn. He said it all. Do you have any other discussion on this subject?
I think it's okay.
If you can do the one for the lease contract. I have no problem with that. I don't want it to potentially cost money to the city or that there are additional costs to get out of any agreement.
This seems to be a delicate situation. A motion to close the public audience and resume the ordinary session. I press the motion. All in favor? It is now a point to be treated. The reopening of the budget for exercise 2027.
I am at ease.
We have a motion to approve the reopening of the budget.
Discussion? I press the motion. Other discussions?
All in favor? This brings us to point A and B, the market attribution. Last Tuesday, we proceeded with the opening of the offers for the Rue project. We had launched an offer call, but we received only one offer. It came from Sterparsons, as you can see on the screen. The estimated cost by the engineers was $662.275. And their offer rose to $665.
Thank you.
Other questions? Do you have any questions for me?
It's also the offer that was very close to what we expected.
Correct. It was, I attended this opening of the Play-Doh. It took only 30 seconds and I arrived in 33 seconds. I can see the...
I propose to assign this project to Jones and Yamina.
Okay, I have a motion to assign the offer of Lung Street to the State. I have a second. All those in favor? I forgot to mention that the 9D point is the request for an offer for the audit of life. has been canceled. We are not quite ready. So, we will not talk about this subject tonight. And our closed session will not take place tonight either, because we have not had enough physical contact. Thierry has confirmed that we will not have a closed session tonight. But that brings us now to point 9C, the right of passage agreement of SM Energy. Good evening, Council.
Kelsey Carter is here to represent SM Energy. We have received a right of passage proposal on a property belonging to the Rosewood town, all the way to the north, on North Crescent Road. We have about 17 acres and it offers a right of passage of about 1.9 acres for three roads. pipelines and road access.
J'ai quelques impressions que je peux fournir aux conseils. Je ne pourrais pas les projeter sur l'écran, mais... Je sais aussi à quel point les choses peuvent être récentes.
Je voulais apporter un petit document, vous laisser quelque chose pour évacuer le stress et l'anxiété. Thank you, as Drew mentioned, my name is Kelsey Carter.
I am the head of the board at SM Energy and it is a privilege for me to be here to do this presentation tonight. I appreciate the correspondence that Drew has offered me as well as his advice and his direction to allow us to present the necessary material.
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot to distribute the card.
And so what you see here, I'm trying to do it as if I were in your place. That's the kind of information I'd like to see.
If we have to provide you with anything else, feel free to let me know.
But essentially, as Drou mentioned, for the 17 acres, which are the ones we have here, we propose an approach that includes the road and the pipeline. And...
Together, you have respectively 40 feet for each one. So a combined width of 80 feet on the entire length of the plot. My calculation is like this. I'm going to give you two axes that you get by multiplying this width by this length.
And so, you know, right out of the gate, you could ask yourself why the hell are you doing this? It's not quite to the north.
You know, the question arises. And I will ask myself too. And the reason is that there is a waterway that crosses this place. And then you have two different pipeline services that have already been signed and executed. These are types of old services that have been there for years. Gas, you know, water. And so we settled right next to it. Just right next to it.
And that's how far we can go with that. And then the other obvious question was, where does it lead? Let's move on to the blockchain.
You probably already know, but we have a well-designed site, a multi-well platform, just about a quarter of a thousand, a half of a thousand, more to the east of your plot. So this would serve as a route and a pipeline for this well platform and this future development.
I have a lot of other details and boring information, but I don't know what you want to know.
So I'm happy to answer all your questions.
Well, I know that Chelsea and Joe Pippi included me in the conversation with Drew and they handled the situation very well.
It's the second time we're talking about it.
But I...
I find that very good.
I don't see anything wrong. What are the conditions for this takeover? What is the compensation?
Excellent question. Question number one. As long as we use it, we ask for it to stay there. It has no limit of duration or, you know, of automatic renewal. It is to perpetuate. So as long as we use it, we ask for it to stay in place. The compensation. is $10 per foot for each passage service. Thus, $10 per foot for the pipeline and $10 per foot for the road gives a total of $20 per foot, which is equivalent to a global offer of about $13,259.80 at... I am ready tonight. According to what Joe told me, it seems that he is tired of this option to present them and that you did not appreciate it. But I think it is worth asking again if you would be ready to separate us from this plot. We would be willing to negotiate and interested in his purchase in the city of Roosevelt. We have already acquired all the other land in the east to obtain the right of passage and our land use agreements. This is therefore the only service we still have to obtain because we have bought everything else. Other questions?
Your pipeline is for water, oil, gas, the three, or just gas and water or what?
Yes, it's a combination of the two. There will therefore be three pipelines in the passageway service, a 8-inch drive for flexible steel water, another 8-inch drive for commercialized gas, and the last is a 4-inch drive for gas and service. Where is the pipeline to which they connect? So, we're actually building, and you'll see it, references on the cadastral plan, under the name of pipeline, the Alamont structure or something like that. In fact, SM Energy bought XCL, XCL had bought Aldon Energy, so you essentially have two different fields, and our pipeline Your plot was a project of 8 miles that we are finishing.
Your plot is one of the last missing parts that connects these two fields. So yes, about 7 or 8 miles to the south-west of here.
For Aya, we use Esquire. We currently have no project for this property and nothing has really been mentioned. I was just wondering, Drew, can you think of anything that has been addressed over the past 20 years? We didn't even know we owned it.
And as Kelsel mentioned, we also have a few other services. We tried to use it as much as possible to avoid taking everything back to zero.
But with three pipelines, there was simply not enough space. Would that be the case? So if you look just there to the north. So by order from north to south, you know the time here.
Then the production of existing gas that belongs to Kinder Morgan and then the evacuation of water.
And then we have this new proposal. Mr Mayor, as for the municipal staff as well, we have discussed this and we have no concerns or objections concerning their proposal.
When you mentioned that you were interested in the purchase, are you just talking about this section or not?
No, no, sir. For the entirety of the 17th plot. We would be interested and available. I can make an offer tonight if you want to hear it.
We can have other discussions later. I don't know what the rest...
I mean, like everything that concerns oil and gas, time is an essential factor. So everything we can do first would be preferable and I would be in favor of it. But yes, happy to discuss any one of them.
We have examined the contract or the agreement with the grant and if you feel inclined to approve with the approval of the grant.
There are some points that you have recommended that we are aware of.
There really is only one, and this directly concerns what Audrey asked about the resignation. There are two documents submitted, the resignation clauses are not identical to the one that could rephrase that, but there are two possibilities within the agreements, and then there could be a negotiation for another... But for the moment, one of the documents indicates that the agreement would be valid if one of the following three things happens. The first is if the applicable servitude becomes unused and abandoned for three years. The second is if road construction has not started in the year following the date of signing the agreement. And the third is if ISM voluntarily withdraws from the agreement. The other document simply indicates that if the road is not used for a period of two years, then it would be considered abandoned. We must ensure that the resolution clause in both documents corresponds. But there are these two different proposals on the table. However, we are not necessarily limited to this one.
So when we say that it is abandoned by SM, what if SM sells its plots to someone else? So is this right immediately transferred to them?
Yes, it would be automatic. It is something that often happens in the oil sector, that the right to use and access is transferred with the sale.
What if it is sold to a private company and not to an oil company?
That's what I mean. Oh, that's an interesting question. Let me say that again.
I don't think it's really true. If the right of passage had to be sold to a particular person or as the land beyond, if someone wanted to build a house there, then this road becomes a private alley rather than a right of passage.
The current libellum does not specify that it would be a specific use in the oil industry. So I would say that with the current libellum, it would not be considered abandoned as long as someone accesses the property east of this arsenal.
Generally, correct me if I'm wrong, but abandoned in terms of oil, and that he completely abandons it, it is no longer profitable, so he would simply get rid of it.
At that moment, you know, a particular public could use this road as good as it seems, but as long as we use it, it would not be an option for, you know, especially where, I mean, we could consider all sorts of hypotheses and laws elsewhere, but we plan to close this property With a portal and a fence.
300 feet to 90 meters. Count an order, you have a 300-foot margin of retreat. We will pave and fence so that, you know, it is not open to the public and to prevent people from crossing your property. It would be a service exclusively for us. Just to come back to what Laurent said, it was an oblivion.
The two of us, we lack a memorandum that we will make public and will be recorded. Then the heart of the agreement, which contains all the sensitive details. There was a certain ambiguity between the two resolution clauses, so I will adopt what is in the memorandum. et l'aligner sur ces trois options pour m'assurer que les deux accords soient identiques.
C'est une erreur de ne pas avoir des termes de résiliation différents. Donc, nous revenons à la résiliation. Si et quand elle survient, selon ces trois options qui ont été mentionnées précédemment, nous pouvons les revoir si vous le souhaitez. Other questions? Are the three options... Is the isolation clear? Grant, do you have any other questions?
As long as these two match. And I like the one that Kelsey chooses between the two. The one that offers three options. So as long as we update the agreement with this one, the rest of the agreement seems good.
And I would do this. This should have already been done. Very good. I am ready to examine the entire proposal in one direction or another.
I propose to grant access to the road. Pipeline. Pipeline.
So I have a motion to approve servitude for the pipeline. It is noted with a vote. Any other discussion? All in favor? Oppositions? Okay, that's great. Okay, that being said, this brings us to point 90, the order on hunting. The discussion on hunting on the city authorities. Grant has an order on this that There is an addition to this ordinance that we had in fact omitted and that we must include in this ordinance. If you want to help me with that, but I have to disclose a conflict of interest on my part because I have a member of my family who owns a property in the city of Roosevelt. So I have to disclose that.
And after what you told me, you chased him too.
Yes, I chased him. So is it a change? So if we go down to line 2, there are a lot of clarifications that come into play here.
No, it's an order that has been examined. five or six years ago. I think you were at the council, and Rowdy maybe too, but we had discussed different options, and the reason why it happened is that a large mule deer had been spotted on a property in the city. All this Before we finished that, the deer was killed outside of the city's property. Then, no one was interested in the hunt on the city's property and the file was put on the ground.
I talked to JR a few times after that, but it never really happened.
When Tommy arrived, he had questions about knowing if one, the people who owned the property, one had the right to exclude third parties within the Baye, or if the city kept this right. And we did not expressly treat it in the Baye. As a rule, when someone rents a property, the right to exclude accompanies it.
So, we brought this back up, and we wanted some modifications that were integrated into this version.
Initially, we had talked about different ways to give authorizations, like the principle of the first arrival, first service. We had talked about the case where several people would present themselves with a spell drawing system, or something like that, or something like that. But none of that has ever been solved. We have simply discussed the possibilities. In the current state of things, if the property is rented to a third party, it is he who decides, as if he were the owner, if he hunts himself, or if he authorizes someone else to do it. This applies only to land located outside the limits of the city, because other provisions prohibit it inside. For properties that are not rented and that are out of limit, they could be addressed to the city and we would decide case by case if the authorization... At that time, designated by the council, a person mandated by the council to approve it. So you could have somebody on staff to take an administrative decision or to ask the person to come and request the authorization here.
And as for the unrentalized properties.
Exactly. This will bring us up to the modification that was made this afternoon. As we were talking about in the previous meeting, there were concerns about critical infrastructure, especially the property where our wells are located, and the cleaning farm has also been raised as a point of concern. So there was an addition to the C location, which was only a reserved space in case we wanted to add additional limitations. but I created another arrangement instead of the C. It would have its own number, entitled Limitations, Named, OEF, Aged, and currently stipulates that any property belonging to life, including critical infrastructures, in particular, without limiting the infrastructure of drinking water or sanitation. And if these infrastructures are located in such a way that they are vulnerable to bad impacts, then this plot would be forbidden for the city to own or rent it. We are in a similar situation with the Jürgen case, and there are provisions in the bill, even for labor, that limit its ability to access this part of the property.
What is the city's responsibility in these matters? I think it is very weak. I will answer.
And regarding the way it's settled, is it the city that is the landlord who decides who can come or not?
Or is it the city?
That's what we're trying to decide.
Well, you can decide everything here, it's up to you, because we're not talking about that at all. No, the current orders. In the current draft, if the property is rented and does not contain critical infrastructure, then it would be up to the landlord to decide whether to allow hunting.
Are there provisions, for example the division of food resources on plots? where we can't go anyway. I don't know very well.
Yes, but I don't think it would apply to any of our... Do you know what they did with Ryan? This mentions that as far as the chase in these...
seasonal species.
So they can take it all by the DWR. Yes.
Because the DWR regulates the fauna for the state, whether it's private or public property. And so all these provisions should be respected. There are plots or areas, I should say, not plots, where the DWR has made arrangements to create a kind of refuge for the fauna. Not necessarily where hunting is completely forbidden, but where there are additional restrictions, but none of the properties belonging to the city are in such conditions. In addition, I'm just trying to think about everything I could have missed in your question because I'm trying to interpret it broadly.
I wonder if we should examine this, as we discussed for fireworks, and maybe examine all the properties involved and simply say, this is excluded. This would be acceptable. You see what I mean? Find things that...
Well, yes, the golf course would be different because I'm almost sure it's entirely within the city limits, so there would be different regulations. And that hunting within the city limits is not prohibited by other organizations. This is only dealing with properties belonging to the city, but located outside the city limits and within it. We have distinguished the properties, rented and those that are not. And the reality is that this has not happened often. There was this big series I told you about that raised the problem. And did you have any other Ryan? It's the only one I think was specifically reported to me. And it was...
I'm just wondering if we... Don't we create problems for nothing if it's not that serious? Don't worry about that because I mean, we all know the hunters and the hunt and I'm one of them.
If we have a person who says, yes, you can hunt here, or no, no more. It is to open the box of pandas in which we could get involved, because the hunters and myself, I am guilty of it. We get angry for things like that, and it's yes, why not me? How come there has been a favor treatment? This kind of thing. It just seems that if we are never or very rarely asked to hunt on our property, we should not simply forbid it to avoid this kind of problem.
unless it is rented?
And it's easier to make things work this way too. In fact, we could just change this mess to say it's forbidden, unless, with what you're saying, if I understand you well, it's forbidden unless it's rented. And then we would probably keep the protections for critical infrastructures, but we would transfer the right of exclusion to the tenant on the site concerned. And that would take away everything that concerns the problems that could arise in the future.
I like that. Better than a simple general ban. Anything.
One thing I didn't address, Audrey, because I didn't think about it before I finished answering your question about the regulations of the GDPR, that kind of thing. For protected fauna, for which there are hunting seasons, that's what I just explained, there are also unprotected species, such as raccoons, foxes, foxes, goats, coyotes, which are subject to the regulations of the WER, and this will always apply to these species. But this would be all year without any restriction from the WER. Okay, so I understand the suggestion of your advisor, and I like a lot of aspects. I can make a new mess, or if you want to move forward quickly, I think I have enough precision to bring these changes if you want to approve them. And I'm not pushing for either of the two options.
I agree with both.
I'm not in a hurry for anything, but I like what Rodi suggested, rather than a general ban on everything. I think that this does not create work for the staff.
So, Mr Mayor, I have a question. Sorry Audrey, I cut you off.
I thought you were done.
So, currently, I believe that there are only two places that we will Am I wrong? We have the cleaning station and the hurricane site. But for the cleaning station, the staff fears to authorize the hunt because of the infrastructure below, like the basins. And there is also the shooting range below the fields. There are irrigation pivots above. So this site is rented, but we
the Department of Infrastructure.
Considered as a critical infrastructure. So, in reality, we're only talking about Dürren in this case.
And just a part of Dürren, because is it a 40-acre plot? Yes. So it would be only the southern part of Dürren that would be concerned with the authorization the ban would apply to the northern part of Duron and to the entire depuration station. They would therefore always be subject to the order, but differently because it would be expressly forbidden at the moment and expressly authorized in the southern part. I don't think we're in a hurry if we take the time to report this to let you write it down. What happens if someone comes next week to ask for HEC? We would tell them to come talk to you because we have nothing to say expressly.
This is not in the current rental contract with the landlord. No, it's not.
And that's part of the reason that Tommy raises the question of whether hunting is allowed or not in the southern part. The art hunting season has started. Otherwise, it's about to start.
It has started. I'm not particularly attached to the calendar. This would be the only calendar for which we could take care of it now. If they wanted it, it would already be there. They probably already went there, they probably ran away anyway.
You know what? I have to correct what I just said. You could not approve because we did not have a public audience and this is an order. So we have to announce it and hold a public audience since it is an order. So do you want us to register it in the order of the future day? I will rephrase it and have a copy circulate. Then I will let Ciara take care of the announcement. It will be rephrased by us and I will send it to you. And so, whatever the publication date, you can set it for the 1st.
So, would that be for the meeting on September 1st? Let's put that aside and we'll meet again on September 1st for the changes.
Thank you. Thank you.
Have you all been able to consult the approval of the expenses and the report? I have a motion to approve the expenses and the report. Who is for?
Let me open this, I have a motion.
Thank you. So we have a motion and a second for the approval of the expenses and the financial examination which is for me.
Opposite opinions?
I give people the leg. We have almost finished.
Ryan, did you have anything for the municipal director's report? Not quite. This is only good news, do not worry, the council
So, first of all, a few little things. Autumn is coming at full speed. We talked a little about the dates on this subject.
The Autumn Festival is scheduled from 2 to 4 October. Vanessa came to talk with Josh and me for a while, so did Edwin, to get our support, which is legitimate. We are leaving.
If someone is ready to help for the Montgolfiers, especially for the balls, they need teams to mount them and bring them down. And last year, they didn't have enough teams to arrive. So this year, there will be a little less Montgolfiers.
So we want to do our best so that they come back in the future. So if anyone is interested in taking over, Ryan?
I think it would be important to note that this year it is very important to get this support. Some pilots tell us that if they don't get the support and the help of the community, they could...
And I don't remember how many golfers we had last year.
Do you remember? We had quite a few. They are amazing. It's an extraordinary event.
If you can contact Vanessa, if you think you have a group or someone, your family or others, contact her, just to see how you can help. A lot of fun activities are planned. Also, for the Halloween parade, it will not be on Saturday. They advanced it to Friday the 30th and it will be from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. like last year. Note that well. And then the next point is the date of the autumn barbecue. We discussed it with the team, but we wanted to see with you when you want to set a date for it. It seems like every year we push the schedule to take us short and we end up doing it.
It looks like the first snowstorm of the year. So I don't know if there is a date. The team proposed September 10 this morning. If that suits you, it would be perfect for us, but if that's not the case, we can choose another one.
I say it's nice.
Josh wanted me to tell you not to worry about cooking this year. He will see with the staff of the golf course to take care of the preparation.
That's it.
No, that's not it.
You know, we thought it was also for you all.
No one had a sandwich.
Well, we usually cook for 120 people, so it's just hard to estimate the number of employees present up there.
And when was it already? September 10th.
September 10th.
And we'll send you more details. on the schedules and all the rest during the next council meeting.
And finally, last thing, I would never have thought to say that in a meeting or even in a short time, but it's to warn you.
We have a new beast in town. It's not a wild boar in the natural park, but I wanted to inform you that we currently have jellyfish of soft water in our pond. Yes, it's a reality. Soft water jellyfish. BWA found them today, and they are small on my question.
But yes, there are centaurs.
How did they get there? We don't know.
And they are not dangerous. They are not dangerous for fish. And the fish don't eat them. I don't know what's going to happen. We'll see.
Well, Harley wants to say yes, but in fact Greg checked. They have a dart, but not for humans.
Interesting.
You want me to say that it's really dangerous? It's really dangerous to swim in time. No, we left it to humans. It's pretty cool. I learned something today that you didn't know.
He shared the jellyfish video with us.
They have the video proof that they...
I mean, they were...
I shouldn't say that, but it's pretty cool to observe, but it's not a good thing to have other species in the pond.
Apart from that, I have nothing else to say. Are there any questions, reflections or concerns?
Do we have a committee meeting tomorrow?
There is a committee meeting, parks and leisure. Thursday at 6 p.m. This Sunday. Sunday is our last confessional summer conference.
7 p.m. at work.
No, my wife and I were out of town this weekend. We were in a hurry to go home for the concert.
Sunday morning. Next week.
I said, wait, it's not before next week.
That being said, do we have any points to discuss in the future? Okay, I am ready to receive a motion. We have a motion to raise the session. All in favor?
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