Planning Board - Special Meeting

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Yeah. Yes, that is in I think it's in the original 8 11. So if you go to the meeting last minute All right, everyone. Good evening and welcome to the 18th November

special meeting.

Special meeting. How exciting. A special meeting of the planning board. The city of Rome. We don't have these very often. It is part of our specified in our code. We have the ability to hold special meetings. Same reporting requirements. petitioner has to submit uh drawings and packages to the city. Notice goes out in the paper. I'd like to call the meeting to order. With that, a preliminary remark. Meeting is called to order. Uh I'm your chair, Mark Espazito. We have full board here tonight. We have vice chair Joe Kandra, Eric Gonzalez, Brittany Fumemerola, David Smith. We [snorts] also have Mr. Garrett Wyoff to my left. Uh community and economic development. We have Jim Risso, corporation council. Danielle Salsbury, uh, community economic development to the far end. We are your volunteer board members. Um, we love where we live. We try to make it a better place. We try to be fair to everyone. Okay. So, our agenda for this evening, uh, looks like we have one item of new business. We have a site plan review request by Chibani for a revision to a previously approved site plan for the construction of a facility exceeding 1 million square ft uh for dairy processing at 150 Perimeter Road West. Uh business Griffith Business Technology Park. Petitioner, come forward. Please make sure the microphone is turned on. State your name. So, we previously approved there was uh the FAA had a concern with the storage building the height sight lines that off

to the uh to the runway. You can I think you can pick it up. Take it off or you can pull it. It should come right up. Tap the end. Got to turn it on maybe. There we go. Is that better? That's better. There we are. So, we Yep. And then this is an update because the FAA we got the seeker approved by Onida County um [clears throat] board of legislators and uh with that.

Thank you Mr. Aspito members of the board. My name is Kevin McAuliffe. I'm an attorney with Barkley Damon in Syracuse here representing Chbani this evening on the application for the revision of the approval that you granted back on June 3rd uh of this year. So uh I think if we start first with what has changed between that approval at that time and the site plan before you today. um for various different reasons. Uh most of them uh to create more of a campus feeling. Rather than have the building crammed onto just the triangle parcel, uh we've negotiated with the county to lease a portion of the golf course. And uh what we've done is then we have two buildings on the golf course and connecting them is what we refer to as the connective corridor um that would then be used for pedestrian traffic. By that I mean humans going back and forth between the buildings and the movement of product from the main plant itself to the storage building. Uh we also have on there a fruit building and I can use my pointer and identify these things.

Yeah, there we go. So here we've got the connective corridor um connecting the manufacturing facility over to the storage facility and this is currently contemplated to be a facility for development of fruit that would then go into the product itself. Mr. Dr. the triangle portion.

Certainly. Uh, it's kind of funny, Mr. Chair, before I started working on this and I first heard this was a triangle parcel, I thought, what an odd name. But it it's a a perfect triangle. Can we get that better zoom or focus? Okay. So, here's the perfect triangle, if you will, that's made up of taxiways. Um the county has worked with the FAA for years to obtain a release of a number of the parcels. So what is to be released is what you see now within this fence and this piece then would be leased. We uh went to the ZBA as you know because this connective corridor then would span this property line. One of the questions we were asked is, well, why aren't you just resubdividing the property? Uh, which is a great idea. That would be the first move, but because of the FAA overlay and restrictions that are associated with the triangle parcel and not the golf course, um, that's virtually impossible at this time. uh we would love to but the ZBA had no problem with this zero uh setback at that point where the connective corridor would connect these two. So modifications then and you know I thank you for letting me sit in on your premeating and hear questions from your board members and some of the neighbors. So, some of the modifications then to this plan uh address the fact that trucks then would move around here as opposed to having them all crammed on the triangle parcel as they were. Now, those trucks going to the ASRS, uh that is where product would be pulled from and shipped out. We've created this burm all along here 15 feet in height uh with plantings along the slope of it and at the top. Um and then we have a second

burm up here that's approximate to this piece of the old abandoned uh uh perimeter road as it was then called which is also then parallel to Bell. They're only a few feet apart right here. Um these I focus first on this burm. This one serves two different purposes. Uh one is some uh visual barrier between that which is being built and uh the uh neighborhood over here to the west I guess I can call that. Uh and but also noise attenuation because we've we've snugged this road in a sense up to that burm and the proximity of the road to the burm gives us in a sense the greatest bang for the buck reducing the noise. The height of that burm is 2 feet taller than the tractor trailers that would then traverse that area. Um, we have submitted to you as part of the package tonight a noise analysis. I have here tonight is Rod Ives from Naparella who can answer any specific questions on the calculations. How did he get to the DBA level at the property line etc. which uh, you know, as Mr. Woff pointed out, you've got to understand the physics and the equation to do it. But um it's a combination of distance, height of the structure, the absorption factors of the dirt and then the trees that would be on top. The second burm is strictly for uh visual obscuring of these things. And this burm will be 10 feet tall with trees again in front of it and on top. Uh so that at over time the top of this ASRS will be reduced to what would essentially look like a fourstory building if this was an office park. Um because of the distance uh when you look at the view from Bell Road back in this direction.

The uh delivery of the milk comes in off the roundabout this way and goes over here to the receiving building. So when we talk about total truck traffic, half of it goes to the receiving building and only the other half of it comes in or out of the warehouse on a daily basis. Um I think those are the essential differences in the site layout itself. Just the movement of some of these functions over to the golf course. Um then what we're drawing is then a property line or a lease line. We will not be leasing all of the golf course from the county. We're drawing a line that's the appropriate distance outside of this road that would then go up here and tie into the edge of the property coming around here. Uh so we'll lease a portion of the golf course leaving the rest uh in the hands of the county to be leased to someone else for other development in the future. Um we have submitted in addition to the noise study uh we submitted the light the light analysis so we will have a dark sky situation. We have been in full contact with the FAA. they are back at work and uh thanks to various different contacts in the view of the importance of this project they are actively working on this um already they've provided us preliminary approval on the 7460s which are the form that you must file with the FAA in order to do anything on a controlled piece of property approximate to the airport. So, they've already reviewed those on the golf course parcel. Um, we have no known height issues. Um, the, uh, buildings all conform to the height standards that the FAA has published for distances from the taxi way and from the runways. We

anticipate the final approval from the FAA on all the 7460s shortly. Uh just as a point of note, we had to file five different ones on the triangle parcel because for reasons only known to the federal government in each one you can only identify six GPS points. So we couldn't take all the buildings in the triangle parcel, put them on 17460-1, say here are the buildings, here are the locations, here are the heights, please approve them. We had to file five separate ones. Those have all been filed now with the FAA. Um the size of the structure is just a little bit more than it was before. We were here in June for 1.8 million square feet. This is like 2.1 now. One of the main differences is we now have a gateway center which has no manufacturing function whatsoever. It has a number of things that it can and probably will include. may include an on-site daycare center, cafeteria for workers, other possibilities such as a visitor center, things of that nature, but it it doesn't expand the manufacturing capability. Nothing in this plan uh adds more manufacturing space or capability over that which we presented to you when we were originally here. It's all the same. It has just been moved around slightly. So part of the package that we presented as I said has the traffic the uh noise analysis the light analysis. We submitted an odor analysis to you that I think I can just briefly discuss. Um you know in a factory of this nature there's a lot of things you can do in anticipation of the creation of odors. So for example all the fermentation tanks are all closed and they don't vent to the exterior. They vent to the inside

of the manufacturing building. So if there is some odor that comes out of a fermentation tank, it's going to dissipate throughout the structure before it ever goes to the outside. The employees will be aware of it before anybody else will. And then secondly, in that study, we've included a lot of different features that we can utilize in the future should there be some issue. You know, the wastewater treatment plant has been moved as far away as we can get it on this site up in this corner, farthest away from any residential area. So, if there is any odors from the wastewater treatment plant, they're going to um blow over into the rest of the Griffith Park um and um not over into the neighborhood area. But the wastewater treatment plant is being designed in order to control all odors that are ordinarily associated with that type of a plant. Um so we've created the odor analysis and in addition we provided you then a complete abstract going through the plan review criteria for the city of Rome and then the criteria for the Griffith Flex Industrial Space and we feel that we meet all the criteria for approval just as we did in June. Uh but obviously we're happy to answer any questions that you may have. Um, I think that the package we've presented is comprehensive, addresses issues that were na raised by the neighbors at various different times. Um, and some of them raised them when we were here at the ZBA meeting as well, but we'd ask for your approval once we've gone through this meeting tonight. Thank you, Mr. Espazito.

Uh, yes. Do you have any um what are the plans? So, we've talked about the Burm and the sound attenuation. I've looked through the Naparilla uh analysis. That looks good. Um what else are you doing as far as do you have signs with the speed limit? Are you planning on having any signs like if someone's exceeding the speed limit with a flashing to notify them? We we will have signs to control the speed. I don't know if we've contemplated yet um you know excess speed signs mean like the kind that flash at me that say you're doing 42 and a 30. Yes, familiar with those. Um,

or maybe or I've also seen them. Some do that. They show your actual speed. Some just when the lights are flashing, it's like you're over the limit. It doesn't necessarily tell you the speed. There's different, right? Uh, I I don't know that we've contemplated that, but it's not something that I stand here and say under no circumstances we ever do that. I think during your premeating too, there was somebody who was talking about cumulative noise and things of that nature. Mr. hives can address that. But there was also a comment about a Jake break. I mean, this is a very flat parcel, right?

If someone's using a Jake break on this property, they must have been 30 miles an hour over the speed limit in order to do that. This is a very flat property. [snorts] One other thing I'd like to point out, too, is the way that Mr. Ives has devised this parcel and this burm, the top of the burm is always 15 feet above the roadway. So, while the roadway isn't perfectly flat, there is some grade through the site. um at no point does it dissipate so that you have a less than a 15 foot differential between the roadway height and the height of the top of that burm thereby always giving you the same noise attenuation throughout the life of it and the same visual barrier as well top of the burm before we get to the trees 2 feet higher than a truck I was looking through the analysis we had conversation on multiple vehicles you have multiple vehicles each one is 60 dB it's not 120 that you had three decibels for two trucks and Yeah. Yeah. There's a whole Yeah. Yeah. Um Okay. And then but I think the point is if um noise is an issue and at some of the residences if people are measuring noises that exceed daytime there's one limit, nighttime there's another.

Right. There are additional things that could be done. Absolutely. As far as signs with flashing lights or Right. Um, I don't know. You probably [clears throat] wouldn't want to put like speed bumps or something, but just something to slow you have to put. You're going to have to put if the city codes is coming out, say, "Hey, you're out. You're non-compliant with code." You're going to have to do some mitigation to get back in code. Right. I

I think that's an important point. A site plan approval is never a one night deal, even though it appears to be. Compliance with the code is always uh superior tatamount to that approval. So, uh, I if if somehow people are complaining and the perception is that we're in excess of 55 dBA at the property line, that can be easily measured and then we'd have to implement whatever measures are necessary to make sure that our operation of the facility stays within the city code. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. And then of course the site plan approval, all federal, state, and local zoning codes and all still apply. Right.

Exactly. Um, board members questions. Um, I got a question for the gentleman that did the analysis. I mean, I Okay, answer to this. What was the smell analysis based off on? How was that determined?

So, we used uh an expert who works on this internationally. He works for ERM. ERM's an international company. This person's based in London, fully familiar with the dairy industry. We provided information on our process. We provided information on the equipment in the facility, how that process would be undertaken and then uh identified additional measures we could take as Mr. Espazito was saying, if we have a problem in the future, are there other things that could be done? And the answer is yes. So, we have both an anticipated plan for controlling odor and ways to address it [snorts] should uh something become a problem. Thank you. You're welcome.

Rod, hi there. I don't know if you want to state your name for the record. Uh I'm Rod Nepal Consulting, the site civil engineer for the project. Okay. So, we looked over your your analysis of the the sound and couple of the questions were, you know, the road can handle 10 trucks, say, what happens if there's 10 trucks on the road at the same time? Where does that number go?

And a couple questions. So, maybe you can address them both. plowing, you know, were, you know, plowing the road, snow plowing, scraping, you know, are those type of trucks in the same analysis or or were they taken in consideration other than the one truck that we seen in the analysis? So, first the multiple trucks uh as the chair stated, sound is not additive. In order for Yeah. You typically when you have two sources of sound that are at different decibels, the louder sound overtakes that so you don't hear or notice that lower sound. You have to have two sources of sound operating at the same frequency at the and the same decibel level to add three dB to that source. Okay? So you'd have to have two trucks operating at exactly 80 dB same time in order to make it 83 dB. So it's not like it becomes 90, 100, 160. It just it only increases by three dB. Okay. So um with the noise analysis we did with the BM, we get down to 49 dB uh at the property line with the code at night being 55. So, um, we, [snorts] you know, not that this isn't an exact, but to use that math, we're looking at having what, four trucks to make that six decel difference operating at the same time at the same point, and we only have a two-lane road. So, sorry. Um, you know, I I we didn't contemplate the two trucks just because it's in I don't want to say insignificant, but it would only add those three decibels.

So, you know, and it's the the case that they're passing just at that same time at that same instant and everything, it just become, you know, it made more sense to just look at the one truck. As far as snow plows, no, we did not look at uh the sound of snow plows. Main reason I couldn't find a solid source of what a DBA, you know, what's the a truck passing with it with its blade down scraping a road. You know, I was trying to look for something I could refer to, whether it be OSHA standard or uh the Minnesota noise pollution. Uh there just various sources and nobody has a a published sound for a a snow plow scraping the road.

And I think that's something we all live with. I'm sure when the city plow goes down my street, it's over 55 dB at night. But uh well, you know, you have a wheel loader, you know, heavy equipment, you're going to be clearing it with multiple, not just a snowplow driving by. You're going to be back and forth and back and forth. So it's Well, I mean, this road I'm sorry to interrupt. Um, that's right. And this is being designed like it's a public highway. You know, it's a uh

12 foot two trail 12 foot travel lanes each with 4ft shoulder. So, we're going to be plowing this with, for lack of a better term, a municipal plow going down the street. It's not going to be a pickup. It's not going to be a front loader. You know, it'll be a, you know, a normal, you know, what we all think of as a snow plow. Yeah. Says um if you if you double the distance, you only get about a sixdba uh difference or perform reduction in noise. So basically what's that what that's saying is that you could double the distance of the road from the burm and you would have no noticeable difference to the noise. So 6dba is like really close to

discernable. Yeah. So, um, you know, we looked at, you know, based on the our last meeting, we looked at, you know, moving the road and what would what what would we accomplish? What what effect would it have? And we found a source that uh, a five dBA drop in noise level is discernible. You know, three dBA is perceptible, but five is where you really start to make that um, hear that difference, right? So basically, you know, if you look at it five and six real, you know, so you basically got to double the distance to have any discernable drop in noise level. And when we look at this situation, you know, it was like a 400 foot move, you know, we would have to move that road 400t in order to come up with a discernable uh drop in noise level. And if we were to do that, you know, then we start looking at, well, where else would future potential go? Not that we have any idea, you know, what what else could go here, what what the county would plan to lease or if they found somebody to lease uh the remaining part of the golf course. You know, we've got that area now that is open that we could further develop. If we were to put the road there, we now have to put that de future development closer to the neighbors. So it's a you know we're which is better you know and for us it was moving the keeping the road where it is because we can control that noise and and if there is a uh non-compliance with the code you know there's things that there are things we can do additional to uh abate the noise but by putting the building any future building on the inside of that you know we're kind of we're controlling

that impact to the neighbors. uh in our mind to a better extent.

Any other questions for Rod? Mr. Just on on this DBA stuff and you do your analysis or you had somebody do your analysis. I went in this truckerreport.com and it shows a truck going at 35 miles an hour has an 88 dBA. One that's idling is 85 dBA and one that's going highway speed is 96 dBA. So I don't know where um they come up with their numbers and how you know.

So we used 80 I believe it was 88 88 dBA. Okay. So that's uh you know you OSHA's got their set of uh published you know noise levels you know because they're looking at um worker safety. So, that's what I used is that that's where I my source for that 88 dBA um for the uh idling, you know, I I'd have to see, you know, what the source was, you know, as far as um where these different sound levels come from, but OSHA to me, you know, is a verifiable source. So, that's why we use that 88.

Um [clears throat] and then it's just the inverse uh you know, that that inverse square law that predicts what that drop in noise is going to be as you move further and further away. So, isn't then I thought the city or county the acceptable DBA was 50. Um, it's that correct? I think it's 55. The code is 55 during nighttime hours to 7 a.m.

6 or 7 a.m. Yeah. During the night time at the property line, the city code is 55 dB and during the night time. So I think during the day it might be 90 something. Yeah. So we we want this the lower one. So thank you. Yeah. Mr. McCulla. Um I think a point of curiosity more than anything the duration of the leases for the property

probably 48 49 years something like that. Um, regarding the truck traffic, I know in the last call, last meeting, we had talked about the, you know, the trucks are going to travel throughout the day, right? Day and night, but is it going to be, I might as heavier during the day, a little lighter at night, or kind of consistent throughout the day? Consistent. Consistent throughout the day. Could you state your name for the record? Orlando. Thank you, Orlando. Um, okay. The forms 746.

Mark, I have a I have [clears throat] a question just because what what is the amount of of trucks? Uh, I know we talked about it, but perhaps to we defined it as a max 500 trips per day. So, that's in and out. That's why we're call defining it as trips. Some of those trucks will be bringing milk in uh to this side of the facility over here where they unload. And then some of those trucks will be taking finished product out this way. And we said roughly half. Yeah. And we think it's pretty well divided. Roughly half are going to hit their private traffic circle and have east and the others are going to go around. You're welcome.

That's your that's your anticipation. But you can handle I mean that facility can handle a thousand trucks a day, right? I mean it's the size of it. That's not max. I don't think we can. I mean, when you say the facility can handle, we can only put through so much product. Yeah. So, what's the maximum product you could put through is five is 250 trucks. I mean, that's what we were anticipating now with 28 lines. What's that? 28 lines. 28 lines. Yeah. So, with the facility fully built out, Yep. So, at max capacity, correct? Okay. And you're going to build up to that over the course of a few years. Yes. You you bring on a line or two at a time. You hire the people, they get trained. Uh you don't open 28 at once and you have to be able to source all the raw product.

There's a little bit of milk that has to come in the door. Right. Right. Any other questions, board members? Thank you, Mr. Thank you very much. Um [snorts] humanity, can you Oh, Mr. McCulla, we're going to call you back. Uh the bike trail.

Well, um I I think the first thing to talk about with regard to the bike trail is I saw a plan with where you wanted it. Uh we're not leasing that land from the county. So what the county is doing is modifying its plans for um that portion of perimeter road which runs from 825 up to we'll call it the Chabani roundabout. So now there'll be complete access for both pedestrians and bicycles all along through that strip. But um as I said before, our lease line is going to hug this over here. We're not we're not leasing this land over there. Uh what are you not leasing?

We're not leasing over here where you had a bike path coming through. Could you get from, you know, Bair Road o over and parallel your your truck road to the roundabout? Could you zoom that just a little bit in that area? Makes sense or no? Well, you still don't have a legal way to get from your road over to Belair Road, right? To Bell Road. No. No. Oh, can you point to where at currently that where they're going through currently? They're going through the site like here. Amanda, would you because I can't tell.

Well, I I wasn't here. Here. I'm guessing that somebody's coming down this closed this portion of perimeter road that ran through the golf course and which is through the county's property. Yeah. Um, you know, in the process of defining what we needed to do for site plan purposes, I don't think this has ever been a declared road. It it's one of those things that's been used over time, used by the golf course after it was no longer the complete perimeter road of the Air Force base, if you will.

So, but I'll let Amanda Cortez Glaz, County Attorney, speak to that directly. So on that point, Perimeter Road um in that area which comes off of 825 and heads um north um kind of through the golf course um is not now has not been a public rightway. There are portions of Perimeter Road on the other side of the airfield that are actual public rights of way. Um, uh, Perimeter Road also has not been and is not, uh, a a bike path or one of the, uh, part of the city's trail system. The city, in fact, has a trail system. And I have, can I visuals if you want?

Just one minute. How How could that not be a public rightway? The golf course was back there. People have to have access to the golf course. Was that a private road? That is a private That is a private road owned by Onidita County, not as a public rightway. that is private county property um that you maintained for people to get to the golf course. Uh yes, maintain for people to get to the golf course and then also um at the point of basically where you see the parcel. Yeah, sorry. I don't know if Yeah, you got kind of where you see the parcel line up here, right? That's where Bell Road parallels perimeter.

There is a gate there. The other side of it is secure airfield access. Um and so the county has maintained that portion of perimeter road as well to provide itself with access to that end of the airfield. Um and so the uh this is not it it has not been and it does not connect to the existing trail system. Uh the city actually has a uh trails that connects off of Right Settlement Road, so up north of here, and proceeds down the west side of the river.

Uh at the point that it meets 825, it crosses underneath, comes up on what would be the south side of 825. And I have zoomed in here kind of shows you. And then from there it connects in on the south side of 825 um through the Bell Road South neighborhood in one direction and then connects to the Griffith Sculpture Trail uh proceeding through the park. So uh we believe there is and continues to be bike and pedestrian multi-use path access via the city's own trail system. Um the development here uh does not disconnect or you know in any way disrupt that or terminate any access. Um as part of the construction of the cities or excuse me the county's roundabout which is not shown on here but would be the intersection of perimeter road um perimeter road

and 825 where the B-52 is and right by Mohawk land. Yeah.

Yes. Yes. Um there will be some disruption in the spring to that trail access as we construct the roundabout um and place a sound barrier in and then ultimately that'll that connection will be restored and will be repositioned a little bit um to deal with the where the sound barrier is going in. Uh but that that access that trail access will be fully restored and you know uh temporarily disrupted during the construction. Perimeter road uh as part of this project will be um realigned and reconstructed basically from the point of intersection with 825 up to the the lease line of the of what will be leased to Chabani. Uh that portion Thank you. So as it runs along basically Dutusfield, right? So this portion of perimeter road once reconstructed um will have the uh has water lines in it. Well, sewer lines will be uh basically to the east of there. Um and ultimately that section of perimeter road will be conveyed to the city as a public rightway uh with the infrastructure underneath it. Um that will be the only portion of perimeter road that will ultimately become a public right of way

from their Trabani traffic circle out to that picture must have been before the traffic circle. Was that is that 825? So this is 825 Mohawk Drive. This is where the roundabout is going to go in the new one. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, right. The other traffic circles over to the Yes. Yeah. It's just you don't see it on here.

Yeah, I see the lane now. So, um, in the construction of the roundabout, there will be, uh, bicycle lanes, um, which currently exist in there. They will, um, they will be part of the new roundabout. This, uh, 825 is going to shift a little bit into here to accommodate the layout of the roundabout. There will be bicycle lanes that continue just like the remainder of 825 has. Um and there will be also um prior to basically within the approach to the roundabout there are ramps that cut off that will allow a bicyclist if they choose to to exit the roundabout enter what will be a 10-ft path that basically picks up here and comes up the uh east yeah east side of perimeter road that'll carry to the point of chbani access.

Okay. So, you said they're going to restore the bike trail on 825 back to the 10 ft ride all the way. They're not going to be reduced any because in the beginning they were going to reduce a portion of it to 5t, but that's the current bike trail is on the south side of 825. Yep.

Um and that will remain essentially untouched. there will be a small disruption of it. Um, basically at that intersection, um, as part of the design and approval of the roundabout here, uh, there will be a an approximate thousand foot long uh, sound barrier that will buffer that roundabout from the Bell Road South neighborhood. And so because of the placement of that sound barrier, [laughter] the connection to the trail will shift a little bit, but that will be restored. That 10- foot path has always been on the south side of 825. The north side of 825, so basically running kind of along the ball fields there, has always been a five- foot sidewalk. Um so that 5- foot sidewalk is going to continue until approximately here where you will have a cut off of um 825 which is basically a bike ramp. If a bic choose chooses to exit they can they can also choose to remain in traffic and flow around the roundabout. Um from there kind of curving along the B-52 and heading up perimeter road that's going to transition to a 10- foot wide path only at that section. So it's basically coming out of that roundabout and heading up perimeter road on the east side.

Okay. So none of the construction is going to reduce. It's only going to increase. Correct. Okay. So the the sound barrier that you're placing that's the [clears throat] what what is that going to be constructed of? Uh it is a mixture. It is a 12 foot tall sound barrier. The the uh 10 feet from the ground up is concrete and the additional two feet on top is glass. Um that'll it's kind of like the ones you see in New Hartford. I I've seen them somewhere. Interstates. Yes.

Yes. Um and and this um the sound wall is something that was initially um contemplated um in comments from the Department of Transportation in the county's underlying NEPA review of development kind of in a general sense of the triangle. Um and so that was um designed and options, visual options, kind of material things were shared with the resident. Can you show us where that wall is going to go? Going to go basically around here. Oh, okay. So, that's north side of the plane, right? Yeah. North side. South side of Southside of 825. So, yeah. Where you have um

And how long is it going to be? Approximately it's like 980 something. It's approximately00 about a fifth of a mile. Exactly. Um and so that current what is a chain link fence that has some sort of like plastic stuff in it. that is um that will come down. Um the wall is going to go essentially kind of where where that fence line is um and um connect allow the um property owners should they choose to connect into that so that they have kind of a fully

I mean it seems extreme a 10-ft wall versus Chabani's putting dirt and trees on top of it. Why so much more? So the wall is again as a result of DOT comments um when we were contemplating kind of development of that parcel um conceptually with multiple types of potential development on it. Uh, and it has to do with the um kind of real close proximity to that neighborhood. Build a burm. The width of that burm is exactly there's there's a relatively narrow right of way there that that sound barrier will go in.

A question. And you said the perimeter road will going from the traffic circle that's going to be constructed to the gate of where Chobani is will be given back to the city as a public rightway, right? Um it will be given to the city. It it has not previously been owned by the city. So just you know point of clarity, not given back but given to. Is there like a um can there be like something between the city and I'm assuming Onida County owns the parcel that they're not leasing that that leasing that big old rectangular strip that runs alongside perimeter going up to like Bell Road all the way up there. Talking about the perimeter road.

Yeah. So if you follow perimeter road to that first traffic circle you see there. Has there been any talks to take that like just make a trail system to connect to the river line so that people don't have to ride all the way down the south side of the river and then cross the road to go back on the sidewalk?

No, there has not. So, um the county now owns the golf course, which this is a portion of the golf course. The rest of it kind of, you know, up to the top here. Um there is a another parcel line that kind of and say comes over here. Uh that is county owned as well. Um but there are a number of issues with that including um some wetland issues and things like that. And we just didn't see the need since there is an existing trail system that runs down the west side of the river that the city had installed previously. We we didn't see the need to duplicate on the other side of the river.

Okay. I would I would consider maybe just keeping it as a thought since the it seems the trail system is such an important feature that the city and the community likes to use that maybe in the future just the cutting that extra ride down the river to have to cross to the other side of the bridge to then get back on the road to to you know the highway to go wherever seems a lot extra understood. That is the system that the city designed and put in. Okay, thank you. And could you state your name? You Amanda Cortis Kaz with Onida County.

Thank you. I think you had said it, but uh Mr. McCulla, let's see. Before another Last time we talked about traffic Thank you, Amanda. Uh last time we talked about traffic coming out of Urbandale making a left on 825. That's been kind of problematic for people. that's over by the Tolman's and the and I think last Walgreens the recommendation what we had talked about at the last meeting was it would probably be in the best interest of those people while an inconvenience to make a right go down and hit the new traffic circle and go back out instead of making a left. Has there been any other discussion internally or contemplation on things we could do to mitigate that? Amanda, please. Yeah, on that um the traffic impact analysis has been um previously studied with conceptual site plans um by CNS engineers on behalf of the county and submitted to state DOT uh for their comment and any sort of um safety or traffic control devices that should be uh placed in this area. Um and that is where the roundabout is coming from.

Um based on the most current, you know, numbers, shift changes, times and things like that that Chavani has submitted. Um that analysis is currently being updated. Um DOT will receive that analysis and then make any further comment as to whether additional traffic control measures should be implemented other than the roundabout. Um so we will and as part of [clears throat] the design of this it is a state highway we have to comply with whatever those requests that DOT puts in place. Um so we are um pending a final update of that traffic analysis uh traffic impact analysis and then we will implement whatever um measures DOT puts into place. Um but also understand that we we cannot choose to design certain things that DOT will not approve. So for example like we have asked for uh different traffic control devices at point we've asked for additional curb cuts into things and DOT is denying those.

Yeah. Like you can't get a curb cut on a state highway without their permission. Right. And for example another mitigation may be at Urbanale. They DOT might say you got to have a right turn only coming out of there and people are going to be forced to be illegal to go out and make left. And there is um sort of outside of the context of what the county is doing um DOT is aware um and I think in consultation perhaps with the city they are looking at um the the kind of traffic flow of traffic from Chestnut Street into Black River Boulevard that intersection with 46. Um so at some point in time DOT may have recommendations or requirements for um you know enhancements to traffic there that are really outside of the impact of this particular project. Right. Um but they are um involved in the review of this particular analysis and obviously we will incorporate any requirements. Um they have so far approved the current design of the roundabout but um will provide any further comments that they seem deemed necessary based on the updated study

and the current study that you're doing is accounting for existing traffic and the additional proposed yes

truck and vehicle traffic from this project. So what will be updated from the prior study is um determining whether there are now any changes in peak flows of traffic based on uh existing traffic through the park and then the addition of Chbani traffic now knowing what time shifts begin and end. Um obviously the truck traffic is dispersed throughout the day but um you'll you know there is an influx of traffic associated with shift changes. So they are updating their analysis to show based on shift changes and projected employee counts how those traffic patterns or peak flows might change. Um and then what those numbers look like and whether additional controls are necessary.

Any other members for or questions members? Uh I'm glad you're here. This been very helpful and informative. Appreciate it. Any other questions board members? [snorts] Uh I think I hit all my questions I had written down. Thank you Mr. M. Thank you very much community three or five minutes just pure discretion of the chair. Okay.

Uh we're going to open up to public comment. Anyone like to speak for you know in favor or against the project or express concerns? We'd ask that you come to a microphone, state your name. And we're going to time and uh like to ask you to limit comments to three minutes. I'll give you a notice when you're three minutes. And you know, if you can request more time, we have some pertinent comments. We'll allow we definitely like to uh make sure the community gets their opportunity to uh you know, address their their government and and be heard. So with that, any members of the community like to speak, questions, comments, concerns? Yes, please.

Yes, ma'am. Either or. It's probably turned off. You might have to turn it on. Maybe just [laughter] It's just a mechanical switch. It's not You don't have to ask Alexa or anything. I'd rather ask Alexa. [laughter] Is that just tap on it? Maybe it's on. It's on. There we go. Okay. My name is Kathy Stevens. I'm uh live in the neighborhood of Bell Road and um Bair Drive. First of all, was there ever an environmental impact study done on this site? Um do you ask the board and then we'll Okay, you will answer later.

Environmental impact study. I believe I read someplace that there's going to be like 300,000 tons of carbon dioxide produced from this plant per year. Um, and we've also got the sound issue. So, we're going to have carbon dioxide pollution. We're going to have sound pollution. Uh, I understand they're building a burm. What material are they using in the burm? How are they going to keep the burm from eroding after they put it up before grass grows on it? Um what type of trees are they using? Have they um there are trees that can both be used for sound reduction and for the best absorption of carbon um dioxide. I was wondering what trees are going to be using. But if it's 300,000 tons per year, the best trees will absorb about 48 pounds per year. That means you need 6,250 trees to take care of that much carbon dioxide. If that carbon dioxide that I read was correct. Um, and if you're planting for carbon reduction, you're going to plant 500 trees per acre. That means you're going to need 2,500 acres of land to take care of that. I do care about the environment. that amount of carbon dioxide in the air, it's going to change the local microclimate. Um, it absorbs and it's going to hold heat. And after the summer we had with the heat that we had and the amount of dryness that that is a huge concern and the effect it's going to have on the animals that live in that area and not only for us that are breathing that um,

[clears throat] Oh, I did find a thing on the sound of a snow plow. It's 90 to 100 dB when they're in full operation. I just Googled it and found it and came up with that on it. So, that's another issue. Um, I think that was my all my major concerns there is, you know, environmental impact.

You know, the environmental impact is all addressed as part of the the seeker process, okay, which was approved by the Onidita County Board of Legislator Legislators. Uh I will see if the petitioner or the county has any additional information on that. We'll also ask uh Mr. Ives to maybe comment on uh on the burm or uh Mr. McCulla. Oh, another concern. How much water is this going to consume per day? And how much water do we have in our reservoir at its maximum?

How was that affected by the drought this year? We're also sending water to uh the turning stone. How much is that taking away from our water supply? And that's another concern is the water supply here.

We discussed that at our first um site plan approval. Yeah, it was and it was uh the water uh the water board determined there's adequate water and same for the sewer water and sewer facilities we've been assured are adequate. I can't remember the number of where we're at, but it was like we're not at that 50%. So, with this we'll be at say 70. So, don't quote me on the percentages, but it was quite a bit difference when I when I call and I believe they're going to be using 3 million gallons a day, something like that. I'm not certain. That's a lot of water.

Yes. Yes, it is. Well, it's a lot of milk, a lot of dairy products. Um, and where will most of the trucks be coming in if they're uh bringing in their milk? Are they bringing it in from the south or from the north territory? I think that's all. Yeah, to be determined. It's can't really So, not all of it will be coming in route 49 to the 8 what 25 on the base. Some of it'll be coming down probably turn roadest as we discussed the I think was that farmers, right? Sure. Um, and then okay, um, you know, is Rome responsible for those roads when they start to deteriorate with the amount of traffic that's on them?

I believe so. All right.

Thank you, ma'am. Other members of the community, I think I saw some hands. Yeah, please come to microphone. [clears throat] Good evening, Gordon. My name is Richard Carman and I'm one of the two households that are most closely affected by this plant. I live on the east side of Belro North, directly across from the northwest corner of the plant. And my neighbor Mike Norman is a little bit farther south of that on the other side of Bell Road North. And for one thing, I'd like to know why the plant was configured as it was. So that is it arranged in a semicircle instead of the two halves of the plant being closer together and back to back. Okay. Um, I'm a truck driver by profession. Only 50 years on the road so far. But, uh, Jake brakes, people don't care. Drivers don't care. Some of them don't care if there's a hill or not. They will use the Jake brake 24/7. I've seen them sprint across the parking lot, take the foot off the throttle, and Jake break all the way up to the fuel pumps. Next item. Where are these trucks going to park when they're waiting for their appointment? Not necessarily the milk tankers because they have to be processed quickly, but the trucks that are coming in to pick up product to deliver things such as packaging, where are they going to park? Federal

Motor Carriers uh safety regulations say that they cannot drive after 11 hours and they cannot drive at all after they have been on duty for 14 hours. So if they arrive after 10 hours on the road, but they still are not in time for their appointment, where are they going to park? Same with the ones that finished loading and they're have to leave but they don't have the hours to get anywhere. We have Walmart, we have Family Dollar, we have Runnings and a few other places around. Um there's no places for these trucks to park. None. Um what is going to become of the ball field? Is that staying as is or is it uh going to be moved? And where are the people going to park? As it is now, there's not enough parking for the ball field. They've been cutting roads across the field behind the B-52 and just parking wherever they could. Um, when I purchased my property, I had to sign an agreement with the county to not construct anything over a certain height. I believe it was called the open sky or clear sky provision. And the plans for the Jubani plant are more in line with the tower than I was and in much higher elevation than I would be allowed to do. And I was wondering how that got past the FAA. Um,

as far as the sound goes, if 10 11:00 at night I go out and sand in my backyard, I can easily hear a train coming all the way through from Verona until Udica. If you listen, you can hear them c hit the crossing signal all the way through there. How is uh how does that noise level, which I can hear clearly at night, going to compare to all the trucks on the burm that are approximately 100 ft from my house? Yeah,

I believe that's about all I have to uh say. Uh the building placement, if you look at the plans, the two buildings are arranged in somewhat of a semicircle. If you rotate the building that is on the north or I'm sorry the west side of the project and make it parallel to the one on the east side of the project that would take the back of the building from like I say about 200 ft from my house and place it down in an area that is not occupied but it's still within their lease area. And those are the questions I would like addressed. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Carman. Uh other members community. Okay. Um Mr. McCulla portion closed. Uh yeah, public comment portion closed. Let's do it now. Um, okay. So, comments on Miss Stevens. Yeah, that's what I was saying is formalize closing the public comment. Last call members community. Okay. Closing.

Yeah. Closed. Public. I already said public comment closed [clears throat] but we um okay so uh environmental impact CO2 I think you know that would have been addressed by the that's all part of the seeker analysis correct and I don't believe we're trying to uh offset uh we're not trying to match trees with CO2 output right right that's not part of the the goal um I know I did see the burm will be made out of dirt. Earth, right? Earth and earth and material, right? Yeah. Yeah. And it's kind of built up in layers. I've seen it's a one to four ratio.

Oh, Brad.

So on the resident side, it'll be a four on one. So for every four foot, it'll rise one foot. Then on the Javanni side, it'll be a three on one slope. Just for reference, um DC a mobile slope, what they consider to be a moldable slope is three on one. Um when we start getting into a twoon one slope, that's where we need to start thinking about things like rip wrap or other type of uh enhancement to the slope to prevent erosion. Once the soil's down, compacted, we'll put about four or six inches of top soil and seed it. Uh, and then with the trees and the root structure of the trees, that'll be

And I think I saw somewhere white pines and Yeah, I mean, we're uh planning a mixture of evergreens, so like pine uh white pine, spruce, furs, uh, cedars all on both. I think that was recommended by USDA, right? Well, yeah. I mean the the in the noise analysis yeah we provided the the vegetative burm as a uh but again the the sound attenuation is coming from the height of the earth and burm the trees are meant to break up the visual you know that there's visual sound a little bit

yes you're going to get some attenuation from the trees but you can't quantify it so um that's why we went with that 15 foot high any other. Yeah, while you're there, could you could you address the 90 200 dB for the snow plow? I mean, yeah, I would just say source. I was looking at, you know, I get questioned all the time. What's my I so I went to OSHA, you know, and other verifiable sources to provide that, you know, and there's a lot of information out there. Yeah. No, I see that. I mean, you addressed the trucks, but I mean, any anything to address the service equipment for the road like

the the sources I was using didn't just were the trucks didn't specify snow plows. You know, they had things like, you know, trains, airplanes, um, you know, snowplow wasn't on the list. Right. Right. It's worth noting the snow plow wouldn't change regardless of use. you're going to have to plow using basically the same and I'd have to look to see if snow removal is is one of the exceptions in the city's code. There are certain exceptions uh to the noise ordinance based on maintenance and things like that.

Jim, could you address that? Is the is snow plowing equipment um I don't want to say redact I mean you know not in the analysis is that required to be analyzed in the sound emergency equipment and things I would imagine are it's not fire trucks you're not right I don't believe so when you when you're referring to e exactly what the chair said the um emergency equipment I mean you can't gauge I mean if something needs to be plowed or if something any emergency vehicles going in there usually is not part of a noise analysis. Thank you. I mean it's it would be an exception to it to it.

Storage area for your trucks the we did the the got a whole area out in back. So over by the wastewater treatment plant so in the southeast corner of the site. Um that's going to be yeah the pointer driver's area. Um so so queuing and parking of trucks, right? Yeah. So we'll have they can park here. There's also additional parking here. Uh not up against docks. So we do have areas for um the truckers who are you know early for their appointments waiting to load, unload, things like that.

Just just to put in perspective, how many trucks could fit in those areas you pointed to roughly? Uh, [clears throat] I want to say this one's probably a 10 and this one up in here, we could probably, you know, with the backed in, uh, you know, 30 to 40. Okay. So, I mean, you're not going to have that many in queue at any time. 50 60 trucks. Okay. Um, and then other comments were um, queuing and parking and Jake break. Again, that's to me a Jake break is what we talked about before. If we've got a noise excess, yeah, it's

put up signs like they do in many places. No Jake break. And if it's violated, then we'll have to create a mechanism to sit on drivers so that they're not utilized. Right. The same way we'll have to control the speed, you know. Right. Yeah. If it's a problem, you're going to have to police and monitor and that vendor is you're going to have to Exactly. work with them as you're Exactly. Right. I'm not aware of any uh Jake break prohibited in the city of Rome. I mean, you can drive down the boulevard. I think private property they can do.

No, no. I'm saying on the boulevard itself. I don't even think it's prohibited inside the city where there's cities that you'll get fined heavily, but that's something for the council to take care of at some point back there. Get them on it. Yeah, I know. I I I walk um not so much, you know, during the day traffic is heavier. Uh but if I go out at night when traffic is down, I can hear the trains as well up by the hospital, you know. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can hear like the commenter said, you can hear them coming from they get louder and then you can hear them as they they drive away. Might ask what train whistles are. I think those are north of 100 dB. [clears throat] Train whistles are very loud. Very loud. Yeah. Um

I think some other comments or is anything happening to the ballpark? Yeah. No, there's new parking being created and then that road that I'll say is on the extreme west county doing that. Did you want to speak to that? Uh, so as part of the um overall infrastructure that's being uh placed in this site, there will be a sewer pump station that's going to go ballpark in this area. We're finalizing the exact placement, but sewer pump station and there will be um an electric uh delivery transformer over here.

This path road, it's not really road driveway, right? [laughter] Yeah.

That currently runs uh behind the ball fields here, uh which has some minimal parking on it. Um uh vehicles, it's gravel right now. vehicles kind of line up um along the fence line here. Uh that's going to be widened and extended. Um this will become a paved access road for use by the county, by the city um for maintenance of the pump station um by Gusk for um access to their transformer and and likely National Grid as well is going to have some equip equipment over there. um that will be widened to a full access road um that you know various municipality whatever trucks can get down and parking uh will be striped along both sides of it. So um exact parking count is still being finalized but you will essentially double the parking um that is currently available up here. In addition, the this little area, this little tiny rectangle here is the existing, I will say, parking lot off of Perimeter Road. Uh that is currently being relocated. It's being pushed in and uh enlarged here. Um and so again, um complete capacity is being finalized as we complete design and make sure that we're not interfering with any um you know, storm water catch basins and things. But [clears throat] you will likely see a double of uh total parking spaces and those will be fully striped again to kind of accommodate the maximize the most amount of parking instead of what it is right now is basically a gravel pad. Uh so the plan is to increase parking um

probably by three times the amount um and uh pave it and triple the amount of parking for the ball field. Um and they those will be paved and marked spots. Definitely. Um were you at all involved? Can you speak to um you know some of what the county reviewed as part of the seeker Yes. the uh board of legislators? uh reviewed, contemplated and approved.

Yes. So all of the um calculations in terms of you know for example COOT2 output things like that those were provided to uh the county as part of the environmental assessment form filed by Chbani. Uh those were also compared by the county against its prior seeker determinations. So, just to kind of walk you through, uh, in mid to late 2020, the county began the process of kind of conceptual development of that triangle parcel. Uh, and as part of that development, we were required to undertake a federal NEPA review. Uh, the FAA is the agency that that ultimately does the approval of that. Um, but the county had to do all of the various analysis. At that time there was a conceptual layout that included a mix of different types of industrial uses and some aeronautical uses as well. Um and there were um [clears throat] the environmental analysis was based on kind of that projected conceptual mix of industrial uses. Um the FAA in January, I think of 2025, it may have been late December, um issued a um a finding of no significant impact based on the full NEPA review. That was about a two and a half year process. uh following that and there were some mitigation measures. None of them had to do with for example CO2 output there but there were some mitigation measures um that were kind of conditions in that u finding of no significant impact. In December, um the county prior to um Chabbani coming into play then began its seeker process and that original seeker analysis and determination was done based on that

kind of conceptual mixed multi-industrial use uh on that site. Um using the same projected environmental kind of impacts. Um the county issued a negative declaration as to seeker um I'll say conceptual right site plan um in April of 2025. In May, Chbani filed an initial um environmental assessment form and that was uh relative to basically everything being placed on the triangle site. Uh those numbers were provided. The county undertook a seeker analysis at that point. Again, comparing what it had already studied under the neighbor review, what it had already studied under its initial seeker declaration, and then updating any of those numbers based on what Chabani was projecting. Uh, the county then issued a second negative declaration in June of 2025. Uh and then in October, early October 7th, I think 8th, uh Chabbani filed what is the subject of the most recent Seager determination and that is the updated site plan that includes what you see here. Um the projected output numbers in terms of you know those environmental impacts, your CO2, your wastewater treatment, your water usage, all of those things. None of that changed from the original seeker analysis that the county undertook in May and June. Um what really changed was kind of the physical layout and this the I'll say spreading out onto the golf course parcel. Um so that is what the county contemplated um and issued a I'll say third negative declaration um again taking into account various mitigation factors that were conditioned in the fonzi and other things that um Jabani has included in this plan

and I think part of the reason the the main driver why you came back from the initial site plan approval was due to FAA comments right and there's a bunch of design constraints So yeah, early um kind of early configuration showed the storage facility kind of over in here, right?

Um and the air traffic control tower noted uh a sighteline issue. So basically the air traffic control tower has to be able to have visual sight of all points of the runway. And uh air traffic control noted an issue with the sight line uh with the uh storage facility over here. Um and there were, you know, attempts to kind of rework within the the triangle proper um placement of that and still being able to accommodate, you know, the facility and the, you know, the uh manufacturing facility and the other associated facilities. And that kind of prompted the move to the golf course for that storage facility um because it does take any sighteline issue off the table. And as far as the location of that storage facility, now the county's looking to get maybe another tenant in the the rest of that golf course part. So, um we're finalizing what the you know, kind of final um lease line will look like on the golf course. Um you know, obviously, uh if site plan approval is given, you know, that then gives us kind of a working uh framework to carve out what a lease line parcel will look like. But in a very general sense, the the lease line parcel is going to kind of follow what you see here as a site plan,

right? Um and so it would allow the county to retain the remaining portion of the golf course for future potential development. It's not an exact science, but the golf course is just over 162 total acres. And the current site plan shows Chabbani using if you count this road approximately half of it. So you got about 70 ballpark acres remaining over here. This portion would remain within their leaseold. Um and any you know future plans to develop would be subject to a seeker analysis site plan approval etc.

Okay. Thank you [clears throat] board members. Additional questions. Mr. McCulla, any additional No additional comments, sir. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Community economic development.

So, a lot of this is going to be repeating what uh Amanda already said, but just to get everything onto the record. So the secret timeline as she noted the United Board of Legislators acting as lead agency issued a negative declaration of environmental significance on April 3rd, 2025 related to the triangle parcel site redevelopment strategy. On May 14th, the board of legislators adopted a supplement to the previously issued negative declaration specifically related to the announced Chobani LLC uh redevelopment project on the triangle parcel. On June 3rd, 2025, the Rome Planning Board issued site plan approval for the initial design of the Chobani uh project. On October 7th, 2025, Chobani presented uh a site plan conceptual revision to the Rome Planning Board with no action required at that time. On October 8th, 2025, Chobani submitted a new uh seeker environmental assessment form to the Onid County Board of Legislators, which included development of the project over the triangle parcel onto the former golf course parcel. On November 5th, 2025, uh, an area variance for the reduction of setback was secured from the Rome zoning board of appeals between the golf course parcel and the triangle parcel. And then on November 12th, 2025, the board of legislators reaffirmed the seeker negative declaration to include the amended site plan layout. As part of the seeker and site plan reaffirmation and amendment request, Chobani submitted supplemental materials, including noise, light, and visual impact analysis to the United Board of Legislators and an odor impact analysis to the Rome Planning Board. Uh those analyses and assessments conclude the following. Noise levels will remain compliant with local zoning ordinances and are anticipated to remain at or below 50 dB. Lighting will remain compliant with local zoning ordinances and will not exceed one foot candle at any property boundary. Also, lighting is specified throughout the smooth plans as dark sky compliant. The proposed BM and landscape buffer will mitigate any potential visual impacts uh to the nearest residents of the project site. No discernable odor will be generated by

the facility under normal operating conditions. Also, in response to a staff review memo dated October 20th, 2025 and subsequent meeting, Onid County revised the perimeter road construction designs to substitute uh a 5- foot uh wide concrete walkway uh with a 10- foot wide multi-use path, which will connect from the new roundabout at Route 825 and perimeter road to the private roundabout being developed. Chobani will maintain their originally approved plan to connect their facility to this private roundabout um to their employee entrance parking area with a multi-use path as a portion of the subject property under development was formerly used as a public golf course which included public access in and around the Bellair/Bell Road North neighborhood for vehicular bicycle and pedestrian uses is understood that the neighborhood has concerns related to sustaining connectivity from the neighborhood to the existing transportation network of Chestnut Street and State Route 825. It's also understood that at this time the complete redevelopment plans and site layout, including the remaining lands of the former golf course property, are not yet known or finalized. As such, if viable alternative transportation connection, cannot be reasonably located and made as part of the current site plan amendment from Belro uh Belair/Bell Road North. Uh it is suggested that such connections shall be incorporated as part of the remaining land development on the former golf course parcel as plans are further developed. With regards to zoning compliance, the plans presented are compliant with local zoning ordinances and comply with the approved area variance. We therefore recommend approving the proposed site plan as presented. Thank you, Garrett. I think in general, [clears throat and cough] you know, the the county has been planning this for a long time. They've worked uh they've done a lot of due diligence. Uh mentioned 2020 they started uh planning and contemplating this. I know from the previous meetings they've done a lot of analysis. Uh there's been a lot of uh due diligence

due care applied by the county, the state, the FAA, the federal government, and the petitioner. Obviously, um you know, this project, you know, is a tremendous uh benefit to the the community, the city, the county, all of the surrounding towns. And you know I think as we've discussed uh city codes is going to have to monitor and the petitioner has you know stated their willingness they want to be you know very good members of the community if additional uh mitigations and um you know corrections are needed. They've expressed a willingness to to do that to to get back within code. Um, you know, I think all things considered, it's a tremendous win and uh very positive thing for our entire community. Any other members comments?

I agree. I agree. Yeah. Make a motion to uh approve. Can we get a second? Second. All those in favor? I um Mr. Mulla, members of Jabbani, and the county, thank you all very much. Um you know, best of luck with your project. I know you said you want to get started right away and work through the winter. Um I continue to work with um Garrett Wyoff and do need drawings and codes and permits and of course all federal, state and local laws and codes apply. This you have the secret negative deck from the county and you have the site plan approval from the planning board.

Thank you. Uh motion to adjurnn. Make a motion to adjurnn. Second the motion. All those in favor? I. All those opposed. Motion carries unanimously. We arejoured. Thank you everyone.