About this meeting
- Government Body
- Planning Board
- Meeting Type
- Planning Board
- Location
- Rome, NY
- Meeting Date
- September 9, 2025
Transcript
27 sections (from 167 segments)
[Music] All right. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the 9th of September, 2025 meeting of the city of Rome Planning Board. Like to call the meeting to order. The meeting is called to order. Um, let's see. Our agenda for this evening, review and approval of the five August 2025 meeting minutes. Can I get a motion?
Make a motion. Second. All those in favor? I. All those opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Woohoo. All right. Public service announcement, upcoming meeting date. These are set in January of the year. October 7th and November 4th are our next two meetings. So, if you want to be involved in your community, come down, see what's going on. Be glad to have you come in. If not, just Usually, it's just the petitioners that come in. October, November already.
I know. I can't believe it's September 9th. How did it get to be 2025? How did it get to be September 2025? You know, the older you get, it's like Christmas, Fourth of July, Christmas, Fourth of July. All right. No old business, new business. We have a public hearing request. So, items 3, four, and five, public hearing request by Lake Delta Improvement Corporation for a two lot minor subdivision 6801 Golf Force Road. We also have that's item three. Item four is environmental seeker review for the same project. And then subdivision review request uh for that same project is item five, I believe, for the petitioner.
Three calls for the public hearing. I forgot we're doing a public hearing. I skipped the public hearing.
I went right into All right. Public hearing. First call. Public hearing request Lake Delta call. Oh, call the public hearing to order or to call public hearing. We start open a public hearing. First request, would anyone like to speak on uh for or against uh or neutral for the uh Lake Delta Improvement Corporation, two lot minor subdivision, 6801 Golf Course Road. That was call number one. Call number two, public hearing request, minor subdivision, 6801 Golf Course Road. Third and final call, two lot subdivision, 681 Golf Course Road, Lake Delta Improvement Corp. Public hearing is closed. On to item four, four and five. Environmental seeker review subdivision review. Now the petitioner can come forward.
We need wheel of fortune. Yeah. Yeah, we do need wheel of fortune. Either that or could be like Monty Python. You're the next contestant. Evening. Good evening. I'm Mike Waters. Waters Lancer Rang like Delta Improvement Corporation Future Country Club. They've got two lots that they want to sell off the property. Simple. There's a house on one. There's it's an empty lot on another. Okay. Simple. There's another lower right corner where point road and fish or golf course road come together. Yep. Okay. So, that lot on the corner, that's the house. Okay. And then just north of that is an empty lot. Okay.
Yes. Yeah. Uh, north. North is that way? Yep. Okay. Just simple subdivision. That's it. That's it. Board members, any questions for the petitioner? Thank you, sir. All right. So, can we get a motion on the environmental seeker review? You want to comment? Oh, comments from urban. Yeah. community and economic development. You're right. I'm losing it today, man. Holy mackerel. Trying to be efficient. I'm trying to get you out of here, Joey. I know you got places to go, people to see.
Uh proposed parcel dimensions are compliant with zoning code minimums. There's wetlands present on one of the the project parcels. Doesn't impact the ability for the parcel to be subdivided, but the applicant uh seeks to do further development of the parcel in the future. It may impact uh the ability for them to do that. They should be aware of that. Our department recommends issuing a secret negative declaration via uncoordinated review and approving the proposed subdivision as presented. And this is minor. So minor would you say it's going to be difficult to do later? I didn't hear that. There are some wetlands on the site and um so if the are on part of the site so if that if the owner wants to develop that at some point in the future it may have implications. It may not. It's mostly just a you know be aware of thing that we include
irresponsible rights. Thank you. All right. So now like a motion regarding the seeker whether to issue a negative deck or not. I make a motion to issue a negative de deck for the seeker. Second. All those in favor? I. All those opposed? Motion carries unanimously subdivision review request two lot minor subdivision. So when we approve the minor it automatically becomes final. Final Y. Make a motion to approve the seeker uh subdivision. Subdivision. Yep. All those in favor? I. All those opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Thank you. You're welcome. Good luck with your project.
All right. Historical district opinion. We have a request by Department of Community and Economic Development for a historic district opinion for a project located at 311 West Thomas Street. Petitioner, come forward. Hello. Welcome. Just make sure the mic's on. Yep. I'm really struggling tonight. I didn't do in Usually I introduce everyone on the board. I don't know. You're doing just fine. I'm going to try and go lightning so you guys can get out of here. Let's do it. So, the application put forward was for well, we were the unfortunate victims of course, mother nature. Yes.
And uh I apologize I did not introduce myself. Dr. Pablo Lzando. I'm a dentist and part of a practice that's been in the community for more than 80 years. My father-in-law, Dr. Marriott, is a retired dentist. Um, I took over the practice back in 2015 and then on 29 April of this year, you see before you what happened and I've temporarily relocated to a colleague's office in Onida. Oh wow.
Where while I'm appreciative of that, I really want to get back into my community. Sure. So, in order to move forward, I have to get um uh your approval to uh push the project forward so I can get myself back into Rome. Um the intent really is just to rebuild my addition so I can get my practice fully functional again and back and uh serving my patients. Yeah, we s they had some good pictures, renderings of the the floor layout. It looks like employee entrance in the rear. Exactly. Public entrance in the front. Patients come in. You got the weight storage upstairs. Correct. And for clarification, we're not putting back a second story. We're just basically on the addition part building has that's staying the way it is.
So the footprint's getting bigger, but the overall square footage is going down. Exactly. Um any thoughts on color schemes matching the existing? Any board members? Any thoughts? I mean, it's white and brick, right? Why you could brick the
What are you putting on? What's your exterior of your new building? So, the siding is uh vinyl, vinyl windows, architectural shingles. Um the addition prior to this had aluminum siding and architectural shingles as well. So, we're replacing the same shingles. We're just replacing the vinyl siding, make it a little bit more aesthetically pleasing. Um from the front walk, you don't even see the addition. Um there's trees up along the alley, there's trees in the back, but still, we want to try to be as aesthetic as possible. Does anybody know what the age of this edition is? The white edition, like when that was put on? I don't know the exact age off top of my head, but I believe it's relatively Well, not I don't want to say
it's not it's not 150 years old. No, it's definitely not 150 years old. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. No, no. I just was curious the age of that. Right. We're just curious the age of the addition. Yes, we don't know exactly.
The uh the addition is an early addition to the house. My uh my grandfather uh George Oman bought house for a a unsus and u he was the architect for the potter at the at the beaches and so he bought that building for my dad. He designed the dental office in the front section. we lived in the back section. The I did not know and I don't have any idea uh through the deeds as long when the addition was put on but by analysis of the the material as it was taken down it's a very early addition um to the back it probably it could have been part of it but it was probably not because of the foundation differences right
between the buildings. Um so uh when I came back in in 1973 um uh that's where my practice was in that section and then um when son-in-law joined me after that then we practiced in the I practiced for eight years with my dad. Um so uh yeah the exact date of the event is right now. Yeah, with the refuge material it's an early edition but it definitely was. Right. Right. Thank you very much. Yeah. Thank
any other questions. And I I will will say just from a from a historic district regulatory perspective, their ability to to demo was not they didn't need approval for that because that had a structural safety right concern from codes. So they already had that. So, well, I mean, just by the renderings, it's an improvement to even what it was before, right? I mean, from my eyes. But the foundation on the lower part, is that going to be a poured foundation and then you're setting that building on it?
Yes. So, it's going to be a poor foundation. And part of the reason for that is, as you all know, weather has been increasingly unpredictable these days. And when that tornado hit last summer, we were all kind of scrambling because we didn't have a basement to seek shelter from. Yeah. So, in the process of doing this, um, we're going to put a full basement in there in the event of, uh, inclement weather, so we have a place to, to get down under. What do you think about, um, trying to match the foundations? Like, you see how there's the brick there or or the slate or whatever that is to do something like that on the back half. Is that something you'd be opening to so it looks like it kind of flows with it?
Oh, I see what you're saying. You're talking about the actual foundation. Yeah, cuz your new one's going to be smooth and the old one has more of a stone look. I mean, you're obviously not going to match it completely, but maybe mimic it. Maybe a stamped something stamped. You could do stamped or you could you could put like a few portions of block around and then you could maybe just get some stone and mud and stone. Are you pouring? Is it a poured foundation? Yeah, I believe so. Yeah. So, do something veneer on it. They could put I think the I think the actual Yeah, I think the actual height of that is is 16 inches, 18 inches, something like that. And Oh, so it's going to be lower than the
It's going to be really low. No, it's going to be the same height. It just It's a little deceiving. It's It's really not that high. Um Well, there's windows in there, right? You're going to have windows in the new basement. I think by code, we have to have I don't know, actually. I don't know if there's No, we're not going to have windows. Okay. No. and and most of that is, you know, landscaping is going to cover some most of that and it's in the back, too. It's not really going to be seen, but vertical sighting that doesn't really matter. Bon definitely. We did board. Okay.
Just to give a Oh, it's it's like a board and bat. Yeah. Just to give a better perspective, it's this is what would be visible actually from street fraud. Bordon batten is in vinyl. Interesting. Uh that would be a building code question. I have to check the codes. But so worse comes to worse if they had to put them in they wouldn't have to come back to this because there's there's an exemption for requirements to comply with building. So we look at the you know the zoning the setbacks and everything looks good. You still have to comply with all city, state, federal. There's a city or state or NF fire protection says you have to have
of course just you can't say we didn't have the planning board approved it. No, no, no, no. Our expectation as far as codes is concerned is to deal with codes, right? Codes of course said, well, you got to first go see my folks over at the planning board, right? And if they're okay with it, then we'll talk turkey about the codes, right? I got one more question about like the matching. Mhm. Do you see how that's totally different from the See that view of the side of that building? Would you be willing to put some type of veneer on that so it kind of matches it? You know, just that face of it to give it that same look. Well, yeah. Like some type of brick or, you know, face it like, you know, some type of stone. I suppose that's doable. Yeah. I'm just asking if you're open, you know, open to it.
Yeah. Not saying that that's what everybody else is. So, I'm just It's a It's a big difference in the color in the front. I just didn't know if you'd be willing to um So, my perspective of this edition is to hide it. Yeah. I really don't want anyone to see it. However, in keeping with the aesthetic of the community, I'm trying to at least make it as aesthetic as possible. That being said, there's going to be a lot of landscaping. So, but yes, I'm certainly open to doing that. Just bear in mind a lot of that will not be seen because landscaping. Yes. I would say one thing as possible is that it's hard to tell from the frontal perspective, but there's room between where that ramp is and the depth will start. Yes. If you throw a a relatively tall bush in that area, that might be an easier way to just make that part
even disappear. Even the ramp will not be seen. I mean, there's going to be landscaping around that ranch, so we can hide that as well. Really, the the key point is to just make the brick stand out, not the other stuff. Right. Right. What do you think, Joey? Did you want to make that a condition or No, no. I just was just feeling out to see what they It sounds like they've got a plan to cover it with uh We definitely don't want to make it so it's impossible. So, sure. No, I just wanted to see if those thoughts come across. That's But you did. You thought about it you know. We definitely took a lot into consideration about how to make this as appealing as possible from the curb. So, thank you. Any other questions?
Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. All right. So, we get a recommendation to community and economic development. Um I give them a recommendation to approve it as um as it is. Second. All those in favor? I. All those opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Good luck with your project. Thank you guys. It's wonderful that uh you know your father-in-law is still kibbitz in and came along to give us a little history. That was good. Good luck with your project. Like we talked earlier, all the laws and regulations you still got to apply ADA, all that good stuff. And a motion to adjurnn.
I make a motion to adjurnn. All those in fa Oh, second. All those in favor? I. All those opposed? Motion carries unanimously. We are adjourned. Thank you.
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