Community Services and Youth Committee - Regular Meeting

Sorry. Go ahead. What what happened?

Yeah. That was me with the gavel. Sandy will not be joining us this evening. And so can we have the pledge of allegiance? It's

oh,

there. Okay. If you are able, please stand for the pledge of allegiance. Oh, boy. No.

We don't do that yet. Oh, can we please play the recording?

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Okay. The Commission on Disabilities is now called to order. And roll call,

Okay. Taking a roll. Commissioner Trim? Here. Commissioner Stewart? Here. Commissioner Dunston?

Here.

Commissioner Riltran? Present. Commissioner Rand? Here. Commissioner Dryan Sagala?

Chair Tarmo? Commissioner Lee?

Here.

Commissioner oh, I have you twice. Vice Chair Cleary?

Here.

And Commissioner Pellegrino? Okay. We have quorum.

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We have no callers on line and no participants in chambers.

Okay. Can we move on to we're supposed to have a presentation from Romero and Friends.

Unfortunately, won't be able to join us tonight, so we'll be moving on to the consent calendar.

Okay. Consent calendar. And does anyone wish to pull an item from the consent calendar for discussion? Then if we don't have a a anyone wishing to pull an item, do we have a motion to approve the consent calendar?

I move to approve the consent calendar.

Do we have a second?

I second. This is Commissioner Trim.

Okay. Taking a vote on consent calendar. Commissioner Trim? Yes. Commissioner Stewart? Yes. Commissioner Dunstin? Yes. Commissioner Bertahn?

Yes.

Commissioner Rand? Yes. Commissioner Diane Segala? Yes. Commissioner Lee?

Yes.

Vice Chair Cleary?

Yes.

Now we move on to the discussion calendar. And so number five. Okay. Determine whether the absence of commissioner Stewart,

that

the first one. Commissioner Stewart from the April 16. Okay. We'll try that. April 16 regular meeting should be recorded as excused or unexcused. Do we have any callers online?

No callers.

So any discussion on Commissioner Stewart's absence?

Well, I just recommend it. Appreciate Ricardo as an excuse. I mean, it doesn't happen too often.

She's been

Would you guys like to know the reason I was late? Or do we already know the reason I wasn't able to make it that day? Has that been brought up? We

know? Okay.

Would you like to know?

I thought you had told us. Okay, go ahead.

Okay. I think too, like if we are going to have a discussion calendar item, then we probably also want to have the reasoning behind that or have someone share out. So do you want to share, Fred?

It doesn't have to be shared necessarily. Yeah, it's optional.

We are making a determination as to whether it's excused or unexcused. And so if the people here don't know the reason that I was out, I don't know how we would determine whether it would be excused or unexcused.

The reason why it's optional is because sometimes it can be personal, so we don't have to. You could if you want to, it's not a problem. It's just we don't make it open like that for that same But you can. Okay.

Well, what are the guidelines around excused versus unexcused?

It's just the twenty four hour notification. So if it wasn't before twenty four hours, it's not excused. And that's why we bring it up to discussion. Gotcha. That's it.

So was it within the time limit?

I'll just go ahead and speak to this. No. It wasn't. So I was caught in traffic. They completely shut the freeway down, and I ended up being, like, an hour late to you guys. I was originally going to be here about ten, fifteen minutes early, and it ended up being, yeah, like an hour late. And I was here in the chamber, but that's what that was. And I'm happy to discuss it, but I think like moving forward, we need to be a little bit more clear about absences and twenty four hour notice and excused versus unexcused. There's also going to be personal situations that come up where you're sick or there's a family emergency or something like that. So I don't really understand the not bringing it up part and then making a termination.

So it's a little confusing to me, but whatever you guys say is fine. But that was the reasoning. So whatever you choose is

fine with me. Just real quick, I'm going to piggyback on what you said. We can have the clerk's office come do a presentation just to give you some type of understanding of the twenty four hour notice, because that's what we get direction from.

Yeah, because I mean, like, you know, if we got into a car accident on our way here Right. And we don't have twenty four hours to tell you how to tell you you you you excused or not. But anyway, yeah, she

can I understand? Talk with A of commissioners, I think the reason why they brought this up was because a lot of commissioners were being absent without notification, and they were doing it more than once. It was like a consecutive Out of experience because I had another commission that I used to deal with, and that person was absent every meeting. So they brought that up, and they didn't know what to do because you can't just tell somebody, Oh, then just don't come. Know?

And then there's a certain amount of absences we're allotted It's that three consecutive So

if you have three unexcused, then we bring it up to your council member, and they have the decision of either removing you or giving you an opportunity to continue. Three consecutive.

Okay.

So even if, like, say, for example, you have two, let's just say, for example, you have two, and then the next one you come, and if they're excused, they're excused, it doesn't really count.

Okay. A lot of the rules, I just say, okay. Whatever you guys decide.

As far as my feelings, she's excused. What are you going to do? You're on the freeway. I'm sorry, we're in California. Was that a motion, Shelly?

I was making a motion out under the impression that knowing her character and everything, I would have known that it would have been legitimate, you know. That's why I went on with it.

Perfect. Is there a second? I don't think your mic is off.

All right. I got you.

There's no microphone cover on that.

It's because that's normally not a seat. There

you go. It's not working. Oh. Well, I second it.

Okay. Okay.

We're going

to go ahead

and take a vote for the excused absence for Commissioner Trim? Yes. Commissioner Stewart? You can vote. Yes. Commissioner Dunston?

Yes.

Commissioner Beltran? Yes. Commissioner Rand? Yes. Joanne Sagala? Commissioner Joanne Sagala? Yes. Commissioner Lee? Me? Commissioner Lee?

Yes. Vice

Chair Cleary? Yes. Motion passes.

Can I ask you something about one week skipped over, and that was the one for for commissioner Pellegrino? There was also a a I think it's in the wrong place, quite honestly.

She gave advanced twenty four hour notice. So that's why that one automatically goes in consent. If it's an excused absence, it's automatically in consent.

I got it. Okay. Very good. Okay.

And

next, we have determined whether the absence of commissioner Beltran from the April sixteenth twenty twenty six regular meeting should be excused or unexcused. Oh, do we have any callers on the line? No callers. Okay. So do we have any determine whether the absence of Commissioner Beltran from the April 2026 should be excused or unexcused.

Thank you, assistant chair. I was ill and under doctor's orders, and I certainly did not want to spread any germs. I did not know about the twenty four hours, so I'm really excited to learn that. I appreciate everybody's understanding, and I'm happy to be back tonight. I'll open the floor back to you, assistant chair and my fellow commissioners, to hopefully excuse my absence.

Sounds like an excused absence to me. You know, the twenty four hour thing.

I'd like to move that Commissioner Beltran's absence be recorded as excused.

I second it.

Okay. Got an echo.

I second it.

There we go.

Okay. Taking a vote on commissioner's absence. Commissioner Trim? Yes. Commissioner Stewart? Yes. Commissioner Dunstan?

Yes.

Commissioner Beltran? Yes. Commissioner Rand? Yes. Commissioner Duran Zagala? Yes. Commissioner Lee?

Yes.

Vice Chair Cleary?

Yes.

Motion passes.

For

the next item, do we have any callers on the line? Establishment of an ad hoc committee to tour city facilities. Do we have any callers on the line?

No callers.

Okay then. Do we have any comments on this or questions?

Quick question. Who would be setting up those tours? How would they be determined? Would the ad hoc committee be responsible for deciding where to go, or is that something that you would find facilities that could be toured? Just a little more information on that.

I believe these are the facilities you guys wanted to tour, like the parks, the department. So that would be us facilitating that with the department, either directors or staff, so that you guys can get authorization to go in. And then it all depends on what facilities you want to tour and if there is availability for you guys to do that.

Yeah. My thought was if we got ahold of Parks and Rec in every ward, at least, and be able to have the ad hoc committee and whoever is responsible for that ward from from the commission try and make it to see what they are making available to disabled in that particular ward. So we are more able, when someone would question us, be able to say, yes, this is something available to disabled at this particular park.

So what I'm hearing is we need to keep it even a little bit lower than what we would need to keep it out of quorum.

Yeah. You can't do quorum. Quorum for you guys is six. So we normally try to tend to keep it from three to four people Right.

So if our ad hoc committee has three people on it, then the fourth would be whatever Commissioner happens to be REPRESENTATIVE:]

from that particular area. Does that work for

Thank you. Just a suggestion. I believe you guys had mentioned in one of the meetings to write down, like, questions that you wanted to ask when you tour these facilities. That way you guys know what you guys are asking for.

I

would That suggest would be in that ad hoc committee to create something where you could have, like, maybe a checklist or something.

Well, yeah. But what I what my thought was on that is that we make it that the whole Commission puts together the list of questions. Correct. So that the ad hoc committee would know what everyone was asking for in these at these different facilities. Does that work?

So, Vice Chair Cleary, remind me because when we put together the work plan, we had talked about rather than going to the facilities and us touring them, instead what we chose to put in the work plan for this year was to have these departments come to present for us. So I guess just clarification around the current work plan and then just clarification around on that note, I mean, is kind of a different topic but the same topic, I'm not noticing, again, for months and months now, we've been requesting that we have city department representatives come and speak to us about what it is that they do provide for our individuals with disabilities at parks, at libraries, fire, PD, whatever. And we're not receiving and again and again, kind of after being requested, we're not receiving presentations from those department representatives. So can you clarify for me around what our work plan is, where we have them come present to us versus the idea of touring? Because I know that's not part of our I don't believe that's part of our work plan for this year.

No. We were. I don't think at that time when we were doing the work plan we had this fully developed. The idea we've had Parks and Rec. We've had the Riverside Connect.

We've had all these people come in and speak to us, but they never get specific as to what they are offering at individual facilities. So that was my quest in this is to find out what is actually offered by Parks and Rec, by the libraries, by, you know, whichever and those are the two that really stand out because there is, I think, libraries in almost every ward. There are parks, of course, in every ward. So to find out what they offer in each ward, which population so they're not having to travel from one end of the city to the other. That was the reasoning for this.

Yeah, and I think too, I know we have several parks and we have several libraries and we have several different locations that we can go physically tour. I think, again, the kind of concern that we raised as a commission previously is just the fact of like the time and the effort and the kind of like, you know, Commissioner Trim mentioned this, that there are seven wards, you know, and we can only have so many people on an ad hoc. And so I wonder if it wouldn't be a more efficient use of our time if they came to present to us. And then it is also the mandate of the city of Riverside to include us as an advisory commission on any policy having to do with anything with disabilities, and that's also not happening. And so again, I would request, although I have done this several times, I would request that the city of Riverside, as a mandate, as a part of what this commission stands for and was originally placed to do, is to advise different departments in the city Of Riverside as to their policy.

And we would need to then have policy presented to us, and we would then need to have the city ask us what it is that they would like for us to advise them on. And that would have to go by department. Each department also has very, you know, specific guidelines around ADA rules. And so if they're going to come and talk to us about how it is that they accommodate individuals with disabilities based on ADA rules and each department has this whole, you know, kind of scaffolding around that, they would know exactly what to present to us if we just said, please come and speak to us on what you guys are doing. Okay.

So I think I remember in our last meeting, and we had the 2026 annual work plan in item number five states that we will tour and evaluate various city facilities, parks and outdoor attractions to serve physical accessibility and inclusivity of on-site programming and digital resources, and then have follow-up presentations to evaluate and ensure accessibility. So I think it was part of the work plan.

Okay, good. Thank you.

I would like to see the you're saying have a follow-up presentation? I believe is that what it says? Okay.

Yeah. I guess

don't I honestly thank you for the clarification. It in front of me right now. Yeah. The Well, helped write it, so I appreciate the reminder. I just don't have it in front of me. I've helped write lots of things.

Yeah. I guess the thing, and this is my own personal thing is I'm a real hands on visual. That's how I learn is by somebody showing me, somebody coming up and speaking to me about what they've got going. I've never been able to learn from a teacher like that. And so for me to go out and physically see what they're doing, and I understand it is a burden to some people on the commission because they do have outside employment, I don't. Willing to. Times I wish I did.

Yeah.

But I'm willing to vote on that for sure. I'm happy to vote on that if that's something that the Commission wants to do.

Anyone else? Discussion?

If you're going to eventually have a group, I'll say, to go out and access these places, we're going to have to have enough people to do that because, like you say, there's those that work during the day and that will not work on schedule to be able to say that they want to get off work each day, then come and join another meeting and going out and assessing these different places, which is somewhere probably has to be done during the day anyway. But as you work, you know, you get home, you've got your own home responsibilities and things, which not saying that what we are doing is not important, home is very important. We might have to give those people who do who are in that situation, they may not be asked to participate in a group to go out and assess these places. And then would you have enough people that's retired to have time like you do? Right.

Understand. Or we do. I'm retired. Right. Like we do. Just go out and assess these situations. You would need some enough people to form a quorum or whatever you call it to do that. Could

if we there's people available to be on the committee first before voting on whether or we're going to do And then, like Shelley just mentioned, or Commissioner Dunston just mentioned, maybe with the caveat that we don't expect the other commissioners to attend if it's during the workday or might otherwise conflict with their schedule.

Okay. I would suggest having the ad hoc do all the planning and prioritize which facilities are going to be looked at first, plus work on the question list.

Yes.

And then work with the commissioners on each of their wards. If they're unable to attend, then the ad hoc can take over.

And another thing, you guys don't all have to show up to the touring. It could be like the ad hoc consists of four. One of them could go by themselves as long as you guys have the questions that you guys want answered. It doesn't have to be necessarily all four of you showing up to the facility. Yes. It can be one.

I have a question for you, Assistant Chair, since I am new here. What is the purpose or the goal touring the facilities? Is that, you know, I'm not understanding?

Because we are an advisory commission, we're there to advise not only the city council, but to people come to us. And so in that mode, if we know what they're offering in a particular ward, if you have somebody come to you and say, listen, I'm disabled and I'm in Ward 2. Is there anything that's offered for me for recreation or for help in in whatever I need? Who is available for that? You're the commission on disabilities.

I'm disabled. Who do I speak to? And that's that's the reasoning for this.

Because as commissioners in our wards, would it be good to do homework and find out what is in our ward and then bring it next month, and then we can decide where we wanna tour?

Don't think again that's something that is the responsibility of the city of Riverside. Right? We are here and we are seated and we've been specifically, you know, assigned to hold this space, and it has been the city of Riverside's responsibility to report to us. Right? It's really not like our responsibility to go out and do homework to find out what's available in each ward.

And so I I honestly must I have a bad memory of when we did the work plan, but I thought that it was more of, like, the city comes and presents to us, and then from there, if they have something specific that they wanted us to go visit and look at, I thought it

was the other way around, maybe we wrote that differently than I remember, then we would go. The problem with that is they've been here before. They've presented before. And No, nothing ever went

we've never had Parks and Recreation recreation come out and present to us specifically on accommodations or specifically on ADA guidelines around what they provide at each of the parks. Because that's what you're talking about, like what specifically is provided at each of the parks around disability inclusion and accommodations? Yes. No, we've not had a presentation like that.

We only had a presentation from ARCH and Cultural Affairs, which is art of Parks and Rec.

Correct. Yeah. We can look into more. I'm trying to do like a project where I get all the departments to reach out to me and answer, see if they can come out. Not all of them have responded because everyone's busy, that's not an excuse, but it's what it is right now. So I'm waiting on responses on a lot of departments to come out. Yeah. Sure. Hopefully, they can reach out soon so we can plan at least maybe one or two a month, hopefully.

Yeah. And there's just I will say this. Like, we've talked about this before. There is zero excuse for our each of the departments to not be replying back to you. There's just zero excuse for that when they have an entire commission that's been seated that is asking for presentations. You have a commission here that's asking to come be informed, and there's no excuse for them to not return. We're sitting here as volunteers every single month, and we have nobody presenting to us. And I'm sure we can all kind of shake our head and say, I feel like I would have maybe rather spent my time having someone come present for me tonight. That's our time is important.

Yes. Parks and Rec just I

Again, have there's to say that been no presentation.

Yes. No. Okay. But when I happened to be at a gathering where Parks and Recs were represented, and I brought this up, they were more than happy to do it. So my thought was it's a way to get it started and get the conversation started so that these people know what we're looking for and we have an idea of what they're already offering.

Yeah, absolutely. I think again don't

know the questions to ask.

And then can we do a follow-up on this request? Because we are requesting this. We've requested it multiple times. You know, manager I cannot think of Mike's last name.

Truelle? What? Bruelle.

Bruelle. Yeah. Thank you. Came and we did a presentation, and we talked about what it exactly that the commissioners do. And we specifically asked if we have asked as commissioners for a specific participation through the city and that's not happening, what do we need to do about that? And so I think that we're kind of at that point where we have asked multiple times and that's not happening, and so then maybe we do need to, like, bump it up to somebody else and find out why these guys are not replying to you. You know?

I think, though, a personal connection with people that are in Parks and Rec. Let's go at it. Just Parks and Rec, that's an easy one. You know, when you have a personal connection with somebody, when you've gone out and met them, shook their hands and hey, how are doing? It makes it much easier to reach out to them then and say, why aren't you guys here, you know, than just a name on a list with a phone number or an email address.

But if you're sitting there and you go to them and you say, hey, you know, why aren't you guys doing this or why aren't you here explaining this to us? To me, that personal connection and that's something that I don't think most of us have, to me that expresses a lot. And I guess that's from my years of business.

Do you wanna move? I'm sorry.

I would just like to weigh in real quick. So vice chair Cleary and commissioner Stewart, you both bring up really great points. Vice chair, I'm with you. I like to, like, be in it. Right? So I can And see

I yeah. Right.

And I yes. I'm very tactile. And I can remember it better, and I can also help promote some of these programs that people may not know about. And then commissioner Stewart, yes, the presentation's right. In some regard, it feels like people aren't taking this seriously enough. And so I'm with you on that regard. So Yeah. I would be happy if we do decide to go out to the parks where schedule permitting, I would be happy to represent for my ward.

I think they're all important considerations. I do want to go back to the ad hoc committee, and the reason I want to do so is I want to maybe not lean just on a facility visit, but an event visit or analysis. And the reason I say that is I had the experience at our trunk group, the Planes and Trains, with a friend of mine who had gone there with their child and was very frustrated because getting to the event, there was not a handicap capable bus to provide transportation into the event. Yes. And even once he did take that wheelchair and get all the way over there, in the event there was no facilities available that a wheelchair could get into.

So I think that, you know, it's one thing to go see a facility, but sometimes that facility that we're using for huge community events is not necessarily a park or something like that. If we could include the idea of our big city events on that and looking at the eye from accessibility, I think that should be included. That's definitely perfect.

Absolutely. I would say that in part of this whole ad hoc committee facilities, I believe these events are all in city facilities, so it would be awesome if you guys can I mean, I know you guys are busy, everyone's busy, but if you guys can go and check it out, that would be great because you can see what there is to offer?

There's just the idea of looking at a facility. Like if I went to the airport and just looked at it on a regular day, that would be one thing. Seeing it in action with a large event is a completely different situation. That's true.

And everybody But I agree. I agree.

I think too that we are not experts, and we've talked about this, we are not experts on ADA. We do not know what our part should or should not have in place. We are not going to show up and, you know, know off the top of our head like, the curb is too high or whatever's going on. Okay, that's not my purview. None of us up here, that's not our purview. Right.

Yeah, that's why the questions weren't going to come up.

Yeah, I think the questions exactly, right? But I don't even know what questions to ask because, again, not my purview. But I like to Commissioner Trem's point, I do wonder if we couldn't vice chair almost act as, you know, if there's been a complaint, right? Like if there's been a complaint that we could, you know, include that in the role of the committee where we can go and there's been like you and I were both there for that event and it was just insane and frustrating for everyone. And then go back and like figure out with that facility what was missing and then what we could do as a go between.

Yes, fully agree there.

Or a go to the event, but either way.

Yeah, it was like we went to we didn't really do planes and treats. We did one at at the park there behind. It was Ward 5. We had a table and everything. This was right before Halloween this year where the councilman in that area had put was there. There were other politicians there actually. And it was in a park. And I can't remember the name of it because this goes back to early October. Yeah. But again, we were there and you could see what was available.

It was actually very hard for a wheelchair to get around because this was out in the middle of a field. And I agree, we need to be aware of these type of things and how they do affect our population that is disabled.

Yes? Are we able to get a list of those complaints to see, and that could be somewhere where we start?

We did provide one. I don't remember the month that was provided, but I need to look at the agendas. We did provide one report we got from three eleven. We asked them to provide a whole year's worth of complaints, and there was not that many, to be honest. Really? Yeah. But that's because people don't call in and complain, you know?

Right. So like a three one they don't use three eleven for that reason.

Yeah. I don't know where they call or if even they probably were like, they're not going listen or something. I don't know. I really don't But we did provide it, and it wasn't that many.

And are we able to get that on the agenda again so we can see those since some of us

are new and haven't got could I pull it up and send it to you if you want. I can send to all the commissioners.

May I also think that part of the reason you're not getting complaints is they don't know it exists. And I want to go back to, you know, advertising who we are. I mean, it possible that the city is not respectful of coming to our because we don't have something that we're really offering and it's not exciting yet. And I'd love to have more members of the community being here, because I think that will then pull in the representatives from these agencies. And can we also talk about possibly booking two? Because this has happened more than once, where we've had nobody.

Yep.

And we canceled a meeting. We actually canceled a meeting because there was nobody on the agenda. And that was the meeting immediately after, two months after we requested to have presentations from our city departments, and that we actually literally had no one on the agenda.

I mean, my suggestion on that is that we have one person, one agency from the city, and then one that's a community in every meeting we have. Because I think we have the time.

And we did, commissioner, we did write this into the work plan, unless this is different from what I remember too. But we did talk about having a prioritize prioritizing the city of Riverside departments to present versus all these different community members that there's a million community organizations that provide accommodations or services that could come and present, and we did encourage that to be part of the three minute public comment, where they would come and do a three minute presentation.

That's number one, it says invite them to do the public comment. And then number two is invite city departments to present on topics of interest.

Yeah. And so then three I've done this myself, but three minutes of public comment presentation is honestly plenty. If you're Phoenix Gateway and you want to come do a three minute presentation, you can get the gist of it. Here's my contact information and this is basically what we do. And here's my contact information and that just makes a lot more sense than having multiple agency organizations come and present for us when really our priority is the city.

Maybe that's partly the fault of, you know, we've got the the ad hoc committee for the brochure, and one of the things on the brochure was to create something that says, here is why to come to the meeting, here's what to do with a QR code that they can sign up or do something with. We need to get that part finished and then, you know, once that's done, we can kind

of We really push that piece of did actually meet today. That ad hoc committee did, and we've talked about some of that.

Vice Chair Cleary? Vice Chair? Vice Chair? I'm sorry. You guys are going off topic. We're talking about the ad hoc committee, we got to stick to what it is.

I move? Do we have anyone that wants to be on the ad hoc committee? Let's start with that. I will be on it. Anyone else?

This is the committee for Various city

facilities.

It is written into our work plan. I didn't realize it was written into our work plan in the language that it was. I honestly had a different understanding of that. I would be okay with being part of or even voting yes on an ad hoc committee to tour city facilities if it was in conjunction with the department itself. That would be fine with me. I don't know that just, like, going without, like, a real Oh, yeah. Guideline from the city would be what we were kind of hoping

Sorry, I just want to interrupt. Yeah, you guys won't be going by yourselves to tour these facilities. We're going to try to arrange someone from the department. Oh, right. Right. Absolutely. Not on your own. No.

But I'm just saying in context. Would need to be some context for which we would be going to that facility. Yes. Then, And yeah, and again, I think that's why it's interesting with the wording because we didn't do the right. But I think, again, in conjunction with we have a department come and speak with us and or some type of prior communication with whatever department that it is, and then a handoff and then a visit. Yes, okay.

Great. Throwing this out there. So I'm going to try to work with the departments. Basically, right now, priority is parks and library because they're the biggest ones that we have, right? Right. And that's where most of the communities

are. So

I'm going to try to work with both directors to see if they can come out soon and do a presentation. And then from there, we can try to, like, organize something where I don't know who will be part of the commission I mean, the committee. Have you guys go out there and tour the facilities with someone guiding you and telling you what they're offering for

ADA Yes. Actually going out out while there are while that activity is going on so we can actually view it because it's the same as you were saying with the airport is if there isn't an activity going out, do you know how it's affecting the public?

So right now, what we're really doing for the ad hoc committee is just pretty much deciding who can attend. It doesn't have to be official. You guys can choose maybe two people right now and then later on change it, as long as we put it in our minutes just so that it can be

I'll volunteer to be a part of that ad hoc.

Okay. And we could also vote on it now and then bring it back next month if we want to add people and maybe discuss what they should be working on more in-depth.

So let's establish that out committee and then go from there.

We're going have to bring it back regardless because you guys are going to have to come back with questions.

Yes. I'd like to move that we establish an ad hoc committee to tour city facilities.

So we're going to move with just the two for now?

Think we just volunteer to be on two

volunteers Oh, okay. I have It's because you had said to start with who was volunteering first, and then it was a motion. So I don't know what's going on. Are we going to decide on who's going to be attending first and then motion it?

Well, the attending would be whoever has at to be that time. The ad hoc committee is to establish what we can do and where we can go.

My only concern is that there is enough members interested in doing that. But it sounds like

there are. Yes. Okay. So, we have three.

Okay. So, we have three so far. So, it's going to be Commissioner Denston, Commissioner Rand, and Commissioner Cleary. Okay. I'm sorry, Vice Chair Cleary.

Commissioner is fine.

Okay. So I would like to move that we establish an ad hoc committee to tour city facilities.

Okay.

Is there a second?

I'd like to second that. Sorry. Who said that? Beltran. Okay.

Okay. So voting on the Turing sorry, ad hoc committee for Turing facility various city facilities. Commissioner Trim? Yes. Commissioner Stewart? Yes. Commissioner Dunston?

Yes.

Commissioner Beltran? Yes. Commissioner Rand? Yes. Commissioner Doran Zagala? Yes. Commissioner Lee?

Yes.

Vice Chair Cleary?

Yes.

Motion passes.

Okay. Look. Communications, updates for the web page ad hoc committee. I guess I can speak to that. Right now, we are waiting to hear from the, people who do the web pages. We need to have a meeting with them to find out what can and cannot be done as far as our web page at this time.

Sorry, I'm interrupt you really quick and go back to the item number seven. Just wanted to remind everybody if you guys can get those questions in before the next meeting so that we can have them put them in the agenda so that you guys can discuss them. Because if you guys bring them the day of the meeting, we cannot discuss them.

Again, I am not particularly I I, as a commissioner, do not see the role as my role is to ask the city of Riverside certain questions.

This

commission was established, and it's in our, you know, mandate to provide advice on policy. There's other different things that we do. And so again, I don't know that that's my role. I think it is the role of the city of Riverside and whichever department it is that we invite to then come and inform us around how they provide accommodations and inclusion for individuals with disabilities, I think that's up to them because they, the city of Riverside, is the one that established this commission.

Okay.

So in that case, since it's not in agreements with all of you guys because it's one with all, and you guys have to do some type of what do you call it? Oh my god. A decision on how you guys wanna do that because the whole was the reason of the whole touring was because you guys were going ask questions on facilities, but

I don't know that that was definitely wasn't, like, specifically part of our work plan. I think that would be something we'd want

to discuss. Well, it doesn't have to be part of the work plan. Could

Part be of the sorry, part of the work plan. Five had a component of touring with the precedent that there would be a presentation. The touring would come after, and that's in the work

plan.

That's what I thought. Okay, thank you for clarification. That's exactly what I thought. But again, it would be, to your point, we're asking what are they going to come present to us, right? And then would want to, we would want to base that. And I can see our role as kind of saying, This is what our you know, because they don't necessarily know off the top of our head, but this is what our commission does. Can you come present to us on this and then pull that language specifically from Okay. So then commission. So yeah, we'd want to

just So look then at that this motion is going to be just for presentations coming out, and then moving forward from there with questions.

Can we not ask questions that are open ended, such as, tell me how you're serving people with various disabilities?

Well, that's going to be up to you guys.

Just leave it real open ended, not specifics, like how many ramps do you have. It's just

I think if we're going to be going to individual facilities, open ended questions to the point of, say, have you accommodated for people with wheelchairs? That's too open for individual wheelchairs because I mean, I'm trying to say what I'm trying to say is we need to have to be able to go out and access each individual facility because some facilities may not accommodate wheelchairs or some may not accommodate other means of people getting around there. Some may be needed added, some facilities may need things added to them. But the only way you're going to know that is that if you know what is out there and we need to have like a general list of where we go to every place and look for the same thing.

I suggest that we think about asking open ended questions like tell me how you accommodate people with a physical disability, tell me how you accommodate people who have a cognitive disability, tell me how, you know, the challenges you're experiencing with serving children with a disability. Just very open ended there so that it encourages dialogue.

So Can I offer to go ahead and follow-up? I spoke with the director for human resources, Renee Goldman, about this same topic. And she said that every department has specific guidelines. So may I offer to reach out to her and have her provide the vocabulary that we need in order to receive that information? Yeah. She was very had some great vocabulary around it, and I think she'd be very helpful. Yeah. Okay.

So I'm going back to this item. I would suggest since we're still kind of like the depending on the department coming out and telling you guys offer, what they have for facilities, I would suggest you first wait for the department to come out, present. No?

To me, if we do that, we're waiting It'll take a while.

Okay. I

think we should

establish think happen at our next meeting. That really should at this point, we should have somebody from the City of Riverside presenting in June. Is that already slated? Do we already have somebody from the city of Riverside presenting in June? No. No.

I have someone in the works, but it's not the department that you guys want yet.

Okay. Could be because it's market. It's just you're just not hearing back?

They have to tell me what day they want to present. You guys have the whole meetings throughout the whole year, they have a decision on what they would do a presentation. They have to come up with a presentation. I'm not making excuses for them. I'm just trying to figure out why they don't respond.

That's why I'm saying we need to be proactive and not reactive to what these people are doing for us. We need to be proactive and get out there and say, this is what we wanna see and so show us what you're doing and now we'll come back and get your department head in here and say, why aren't you doing this and why aren't you doing that?

That's not at all the tone that I would like to take as a commissioner. No, agree. I could not like more strongly disagree with that. I don't want to take the tone of why aren't you doing this and why aren't you doing that. Not what whatsoever what I would like to participate in. I would absolutely like to participate in some type of a presentation. I'd like to see it happen in June. I will be definitely making some phone calls as soon as we leave here today and sending some emails out with some CCs. It's not okay that we don't have people presenting. And I don't appreciate the fact that you're asking and that the departments aren't getting back to you for whatever reason, and I'm happy to follow-up on that.

I would love to see those presentations begin to happen. I guess the question, to your point is do we need to move to have an ad hoc this meeting or do we need to put that off until next meeting? Okay. So then I guess in that case, because we do not have anybody on the agenda to present, I don't know that we can that I would like to withdraw my motion to have an ad hoc committee to tour facilities and that instead we would wait until we have someone come present.

You can make the motion of what you just said. I

would like to make a motion that we wait to establish.

But if the majority votes are not that, it's going to go to whatever they decide. Do you know what I mean? That's the way that

it works every time, yes. Okay. And so I think I would did we finish the vote that we

just You did, but I wanted to bring it back because it wasn't clear.

Okay. I wanted to speak to that. One of the points of having an ad hoc committee is for that ad hoc committee to decide on how they might run themselves and the questions they might ask. So in order to vote on an ad hoc committee, do we need to have all those answers tonight or can we agree this is something that we're going to do and then we don't need to decide on the questions or decide the questions have to be here by next meeting. We can give them a little time to establish those protocols or how they want to do that committee. Definitely. So

we have established that committee, correct? Well, did vote for that.

Okay. Then With our three members.

Okay. So it's just deciding on an ad hoc committee. That's

it? Yes.

Period. Nothing else? Got it. Thank you. Then you guys are still okay with the same voting that we had, or did you want to go ahead and revote?

I think we're on it to It was a yes from everyone.

So

Yeah. I think we're on to item eight now.

Yeah? Everyone's okay with it? Okay.

Okay.

All right. Now we can move to item eight, Vice Chair.

Okay. So updates from the web page. I've already stated that we haven't been able to do anything because we're waiting for the people who actually had all that for the city to get with us and explain what they can and can't do. And we've come up with some ideas because of the ad hoc committee for the brochure. We've came up with some ideas for the web page also in doing that because they are related.

Okay. Updates from the Event Ad Hoc Committee. That's Sandy, and she's not with us this evening. So if we can chair that till next meeting would be good. Resource Guide Conference of seminars and regional meetings. Do we have anything on that?

Wanna say Kim Go ahead.

Wanna say thank you for both commissioner Shelley, commissioner Dunson, and commissioner Stewart for attending my mock interview event with, yes, tomorrow Life My Own Disability Organization and, with the school district best turnout ever. It was a good turnout. We had, we had three departments from the city, city clerk's office, mayor's office, human resource I mean, four. And we had the police department come and join us and various people from the community, and including we had Mark from Riverside come and do a be part of my interview panels. And so I have to say thank you.

Special shout out to both commissioner Dunston and commissioner Stewart for being part of my panel. And I wanted to also mention to you guys recently that Gable Farms is having their grand opening on May 30. The farm the vegetable farm for those who've been with us back in 2024, two years ago.

Yeah. Do you know the time for that?

For Gable Farms?

Yes. For a grand opening.

Yes. It's gonna be from nine to five.

Nine to five. Okay. Thank you. And then you said every Saturday after that?

Yes. Every Saturday after that until they until everything gets to be more settled. And I have

to tell you, I've been out there. It's it's a wonderful facility. So it would behoove anyone that can go to be there. Any other updates?

Can we go back to the pamphlet resource guide?

Oh, yes, please.

I want to offer my apology to Commissioner to TEDRA for not inviting you. I was like, Daisy gave me the list, and you weren't on the list, and I'd forgotten. So my apologies. Three by five card has a QR code, a website, and a phone number that leads you directly back to the webpage.

I guess is this the time to bring up or thing that's the at Gosky Center? Okay. So at the Gosky, they had the gathering for basically, it was health care was the main focus. And Shelly and Commissioner or Chair Tomo and myself were there. And I have to thank everyone that was there.

Was really a great time. Shelly worked his back side off. If he didn't have the scooter, I don't think he could have moved after that because he worked hard to get people to the table and to hear what we had and to take the handouts that we had. So thank you very much, Shelly. You did You're fabulous welcome.

Were a lot of resources there, which you'll be seeing here eventually, that people that were dealing with disabilities, especially for the for older constituents. So you'll be seeing some of that as we go along, and we'll be making reference to some of those on the website for people to contact them if they have certain needs that were addressed. Anything else? Fred? And Fred was there. I have to say Fred was there, so he really worked.

Can I get a point of clarification? And I don't know if I can fit it in here or not, but it was an event that they were at, I'm sure you guys had the flyers. My point of clarification is I know for the the three by five card, we have a a date that our funds are available. Are you allowed to tell me that date right now, or do I have to wait till later?

Could you repeat the question, please?

I understand that our funds, we just have for this year. Based on the meeting, we went to the other the other week that, you know, the following year won't be available. So we have a a a cutoff date that we need to to have things done by in order to

get that funding. Okay.

Do we have that date now,

Cutoff would be June 30, which should be the end of this fiscal year.

Thank you. Yes.

So that that's the absolutely last day, so we'd have to do everything prior to that.

Because I am not going to be here in June, and there is this committee on the brochure, can you guys meet without me?

All of June or?

Yes, I have very important things to

do. Okay. No, that's It's just a question. It wasn't, you know, Just a question.

I do leave town immediately after school gets out, we leave town for several weeks at a time, yes.

Oh, good for you. Yes.

I'm happy to fill in in June with the brochure if that's something I can do.

Do we have to be physically present to talk about the brochure?

We could do that. It could be a phone call, it could be Teams meeting, Zoom call. Works.

Right. Let us have a a meeting in early June Yes. That's not in person.

Or just as soon as possible to get it kinda resolved and Yeah. Figure it out before we leave. Yeah.

I mean, if you decide next week, I can do that. I'll be gone the first week of June. So So

are we on we're on ten. Item ten?

Yeah. Pretty much. Or no. Eleven. We're at good.

I have something to add to eleven. Sure. Unless you have something first, Commissioner Stewart. Right

ahead, please. Okay.

On Monday, June 8 from 5PM to 8PM, Team Possibilities through Loma Linda University Health is hosting an accessible cooking class tailored specifically for individuals with disability and their caregivers. Registration is required and is a wonderful local program. I just want to make sure that it's on everyone's radar so we can help spread the word.

Is that something that we could attend or is Yes. That

You just have I don't know as like commissioners, but in I think right now it's people with disabilities and their caregiver and space is limited because it's at a chef's home here in Riverside. Oh. So you have to go Possibilities website, scan the QR code, Would and then

you be able to share that information or the connection information directly with Fred so he or Absolutely.

Get it to us? Thank you.

What's the age range?

I think it's all ages, actually.

That's really cool.

No, it

is not all ages. You are too quick. You are too quick. You heard that one, didn't you? She's like, I'm listening. She's listening better than I

am. I like that.

No. Yes. You yeah. Yeah. No. Not not going to that. Thanks anyway, mom.

I think somebody needs to learn how to cook.

Cook and bring bring it back to us.

Yeah. Anything else?

Okay, on items for the future, I just feel like there's no one here and no one's listening and no one cares. That's why nobody's coming. Is it possible for us to do something that is community friendly and engaging to make people even know we exist?

You can possibly I mean, there's a lot of things you can do. You can participate in any of the meetings that we have at the city. You guys can go at events at the city and advertise the commission. There's a lot of things you can do.

Here's some of my thought on that, and I'm glad you brought it up. I know in Ward 5, we have a basically a state of the ward type meeting where the councilman brings in people from the police department, the fire department, from public works, things like that. And they sit on a dais and members of the community are there, and they do questions and answer. They do a quick presentation. They do questions and answers.

And I would like us as a commission to have a table where we can talk to people, hand out our brochures or whatever handouts we have so that people do know that we are available because that's part of the problem is that people don't even know that there's a commission on disabilities that is here in Riverside.

Yes, I agree with you, Vice Chair and Commissioner Diane Zagala, because I have been in the disability community for the past three years and until I got appointed, I didn't know about this commission. And I feel like if we did something where, like, you were saying we go out or I don't really know the rules of what we can do, you know, with our little badges or what we're allowed to do. I'm still don't even know the other commissioners and would like to get to know you guys to see if we could band together and get the word out at these special events. Events.

Mhmm.

Because I know that on my disability cheer team, I have a couple parents who, like, come to the council all the time saying they're unhappy about this or that, but I've 've never seen one of them here. Yeah. So I don't even think they know about us.

They don't.

And I think too like one of the I found it on the very back page, and that was these were just kind of little notes made in regards to us creating an ad hoc committee to tour the city and it has these, the Commission on Disabilities is tasked with the following powers. And I think these seven powers, duties, and functions on our last pages should really should be our guiding light. And to your point, Commissioner Beltran, it says identify the needs of people with disabilities and create public awareness of these needs in areas such as employment, housing, transportation, media, physical, I mean, is very broad. But I would love to have, you know, presentations made where if you are in employment or housing or transportation and there's a concern around disability that's not being addressed with the city, that those presentations come and be made. Like if we have people come and they say, for example, we're Phoenix Gateway and we are an organization created specifically to x y z.

And on top of that, not only do we provide these services, and this is what we're raising funding for, but the concerns within this community are these. And the city of Riverside can promote and advocate on behalf of these individuals in these ways, you know? Not just the services I provide, but these are the concerns that I see specific to the city of Riverside that our council members can address.

Yes, I fully agree.

I just

You know, there are many questions that go unanswered in this city. And I think we need, as a commission, we need to address that. Now how do we know about these because the people don't know we're out there? The mayor has a thing called senior forums that she does, and that's at various community centers. But again, they have various city departments there, so why not have a table? And we could even share a table with the Commission on Aging. But be there and let people know, hey, we are here. We are available to you.

So I agree. So from what I've seen in the past, like other commissions, what they do is they do outreach.

So they'll go to

different events or meetings in their community. I'm sure they go out to their own ward and they talk about, Hey, there's a commission on this. Come on, join, blah, blah, blah, so

on and

So so on. That's something that you guys would do as an outreach, and that's something we can do as an outreach portion item on the agenda that we can do as well.

But we need to know when and where these events are taking place. That seems to be the main problem with the city calendar is we don't find out about this stuff until a week before it's going on instead of two months before. Somebody knows.

So I'm in the works with the marketing department right now to have them come out and give you a presentation because I believe the marketing department is the ones that pull out I mean, put out all the events. But it also is from the actual departments that are giving these events that have give that information to the marketing department to put it out there. So it's like kind of like a little ongoing list of how it works. So I am working on getting the marketing department come out here and give you guys a presentation. That's the one that see Hopefully, is working on right they can come either next month or the month right after. But I am working on that one right now.

And the marketing department has control over that lovely billboard that's over by

I'm not sure, but I think they do.

Excellent.

And so you can ask them those questions as well. Yeah. The other thing I was going to say is, I know that you're saying that because they put them out so late. I hear that a lot from other commissions. But it's also part of your guys' outreach to go out there and

or call

or say, Hey, when do you guys have these events? And you guys can promote those events here on our conferences, seminars, all that stuff. That way, if anyone is listening through our TV, they know about the events. I was going to say something else. Forgot.

Is it possible for us to have what is a community event where people come in and we listen to their concerns. There's nothing more to it other than that's all we're doing. We're here to we want to hear what you want for the city, what you see as a problem in the city. That's it.

And I think that's a nice transition to item XII, where we're talking about items for future Commission on Disabilities Consideration as requested by the Board.

I have one statement to bring up from our previous meetings here, and that was the subject of Kevin.

Oh, sorry. We'll get to that one right now.

Okay. I just don't want to miss it. Yeah. Yeah. Because everyone needs to know what's going on there.

Yes, yes, definitely. On the whole going out and tabling at events, it's very broad. There's so many places you can go and do that I would suggest maybe coming up with places that you suggest to go out to in tables so that we can reach out to them. But other than that, then we're just going to be calling random people, you know? Like, I don't know who to call, honestly. I'm going be very honest. I don't know who to call to address concerns that you may have. So, you guys are the best people For to tell

me, it's not my concerns, it's the concerns of the community. It's not for me to bring it out. And as a person who's done a lot of community outreach and fairs and events, I rarely find the people that I really needed to be there are there.

Right. But like say, for example, I can reach out to certain people, and it's probably not going to target the people that should be targeted.

So think I do she's need to answer answer Zagala's point is she's saying let's start with some type of a town hall, and from that point, move forward with who is it that we need to be engaging, what are the immediate concerns, and how do we advocate on behalf of resources, events, etcetera.

Okay. Yeah, I understand that. But if you guys have the event of that town hall, then we can reach out to them and see if you guys can table at that event. Yes. I don't have that. That's what I was trying

Just to finding out where these town halls are. I mean, I can do it for Work five only because I'm there. But trying to get ahold of anyone else, I don't even know who to speak speak to. To.

Exactly. And then I'm going to also comment on another part of that outreach and trying to find out what departments can come out to. Fred and I have been working on a list, we've been trying to reach out to people. We actually got ahold of two of them from our big list. And one of them is going to participate in June? One will participate?

We have one in June that's promised to present, and then we have another one in September.

What's the one in June?

June would be behavior support.

And they're gonna come and present here.

Behavior support. Is that a city, or is that a

I think it's a nonprofit clinic.

It's a nonprofit. Okay. And then we have Dialeride in September. Okay.

Can I request because I saw it on our thing today when it comes to things like this, where we were supposed to have a presentation from Romeo and Friends? Can we expound on that just a bit on the consent calendar to where, okay, we're having Romeo and Friends. They do this. Yes, please. It would be a big help.

And

maybe their website so that we can kind of look into Yeah,

our website so we can look in and ask questions. Yeah.

Yeah, so that would be not on consent, it would be on updates. Yeah. Because you reached out to the place and you get

information. I

is feel like if the included, at the very least, I can go hop on their website and kind of educate myself as to who they are. You already do.

Yeah. Them,

yes. Others.

So it'll be good for those of us that don't.

I'm not sure what you were trying to say, putting them on an agenda

with the No, no, website? The agenda to present to us. Oh. If we can not only put their name, but what they're actually

Oh, for the presentation?

Yeah, they're doing so that we can and then put a website so we can look them up and be able to ask questions or submit questions so that we're better informed.

We can add an explanation if we get one from them. Yeah. But the website link on the agenda, we can't do that. What we can do is add an attachment in there for you guys to view.

Yes.

Okay. Perfect.

Yeah. Something

And then I had a question on item number 12 so that way we can see what we want to bring for the future. Can we make our own town hall with some of the money with the budget where we can talk about it next meeting if we give out refreshments, pizza, cookies, like, and get people in with food. I don't know.

I'm not sure. I would have to talk to the clerk's office on that. I do remember when I used to staff commission of the deaf that they did request for some type of, like, being on the lobby. And it was a no from the city manager. Because it brings up so many issues to that.

You're talking

about in this space.

Right. So I don't know about you guys doing it elsewhere.

And then we'd have to create an ad hoc in order to implement Which we could do at a future, discuss

at a future.

We probably don't have And I

don't think you guys have the funds at that point anymore because it'll be over by next month, and it'll be too soon. Right.

We were told there is no budget for us for next year. For next year.

Yes. So it would have to be there. I don't even know if you guys can accept donations, to be honest.

And then are we gonna use our whole budget this year?

We're working on that now.

They're trying to get flyers and all these things, like, printed.

And I feel like we have to add, like what is the budget? How much money is there left or is there My coworker

is the one who knows the amount.

Could you repeat that, please? Money is

left over on the budget?

I can check right now. Give me one minute.

Okay. I am so sorry, you guys. I need to leave soon. That's fine. Maybe if we can kind of wrap up and then if there's anything we could discuss after the fact. I do. We're almost

at If you guys want to still continue and you need to leave, that's okay because it's still quorum. But if you guys all want

to wrap up, that's fine too. Yeah, because I'm just kind of wondering once we get the figure from

We have to use that by the end

of Yeah, so I feel like we would need to, you know, have that on the agenda

for next time. But

Well, wait. When is next month's agenda?

I think

we sort of said at the prior meeting we would use the remaining monies to make the brochure. Oh,

okay. Yeah. We can put it for the next month's agenda, but it's gonna be super close to cut off. So

I mean, we still have the event ad hoc committee that can work on it

until Mhmm. Have the event ad hoc committee still.

We they can work on that. That's something they can

possibly need other than what you guys already had requested, which I believe it's like copies of the flyers and all these

Well, we also things that we're requested some handout things that Right.

Fred. Goodies?

That we would yes, some goodies. But ones that Some merch. Yeah, some merch.

So will that take up the whole budget?

Would take a significant

We're trying to, yes.

Yeah, because we have about 1,600 right now

is what we're working.

I would just like to see oh, sorry. Like to see make sure we spend every penny of

that. Right.

What ad hoc sorry. Vice Chair Clear, you are on several ad hocs, it sounds like. Which ad hoc committee is it that's trying to spend all the money?

The event ad hoc.

Not on an event though, but on merchandise?

On merchandise. So when we have upcoming events, especially for like the Planes and Treats that we have. Think, what have we talked about, Fred? We talked about like

Like stress balls. Stress balls or the bubbles. Like the pans or fidget, little fidget cubes.

Are they the members of our event ad hoc?

Believe Sandy's on there.

Sandy? Yeah, Sandy's on there. Myself and I'm trying to remember who else is on there. But you know, stuff like this.

Yeah, I thought I was on that ad hoc and I haven't received an invitation to meet.

I think I'm on that committee with you, aren't I?

Yeah. You received an invitation to meet? No. I have not received an invitation to meet if you guys were meeting in my absence, and I am on the ad hoc, if I remember correctly. Again, I'm almost 50 years old, so my memory is not really the best. I

think it was just kind of an offhand discussion.

Oh, okay. Yes.

And And we then maybe let's trying have to figure out how to use up the budget

Yeah, before let's definitely have the official meetings then.

Okay.

And to especially if we're discussing finances.

Immense. Okay. We'll do that. We'll get a meeting together here in the next

Sorry, sorry, I remember. I just wanted to throw one more. I was going to let you guys know that I am going to get the city attorney's office to come out and give, because we do have two new members, and I don't know how far it was. I'm still kind of new to the Commission, so I'm not sure how or who, whichever of you, did get a presentation for the Brown Act. And I think that's a yearly thing. So I'm going to have them come out so that you guys can know what's the do's and don'ts with No. The PRON

We do not currently have a parliamentary procedure for this commission.

And I so it sounds don't know like if

yeah, we do not.

No, I don't know if this commission even has a parliamentary I don't think you should not that you shouldn't. I don't think it's required.

Let me finish, let me finish. So we had a presentation for our commissions and our boards from both our city manager and our city clerk. And with the city clerk recommended to any commission that does not currently have parliamentary procedure adopted, that we adopt parliamentary procedure. We are one of the commissions that does not commissions and boards that does not currently have a parliamentary procedure, and so I don't know what parliamentary procedure we are using. It sounds like we're using Robert's rules, or we're kinda sorta ish using that, but we we don't currently have that.

And so I would want to recommend that we discuss in the future having that. And we can choose any one. There's a couple of different options that the city clerk and the city manager listed off for us to use, and we can make a decision on commission. But we currently don't have a procedure to follow.

That's correct.

Okay. I'll check with the clerk's office to see if this commission should have one, or

needs So this to have is the city clerk at that meeting recommended very specifically that any commission that did not currently have parliamentary procedure that we establish one. And then she gave us a couple of different choices.

Okay. I'm still going to reach out to the clerk's office because I don't know what the procedures and what the policies are. So I still need to follow-up with them and find out what the procedures are so that I

can follow the rules.

Perfect.

Question, and this goes back to a past meeting, we haven't heard anything more on it, about having closed captions on the meeting. Captions on the meeting? Where do we stand on that? We

didn't. They're on the monitors. We just have to remind them to put them on every Because single the monitors

aren't even on.

No, they're on. They're just not

Okay. But I was just questioning that because that was brought up at the Deaf Commission also because there were several people that could hear there in the audience. And trying to understand what's going on at the Deaf Commission if you don't use ASL can be very frustrating.

You have to pay attention very well. I did that commission for three years.

You know that.

And so then that was something that was brought up, too. And thank you so much for bringing that up. I appreciate you advocating on my behalf, but I think most of you already know I'm deaf in my left ear. And so I asked for several, several months. I think we went beyond a year of me requesting subtitles. And

I want to see it.

And we did have them. And Fred walked us through how to do it. And he said that what was it, Fred? It was like on one certain monitor only, and then we also did have them on the main monitors?

It was on one for a little bit, and then they were able to get it working on all of them.

Excellent. And so then that should that should be those subtitles should be on when we start our meetings.

And we'd like to see it quite honestly on every commission and every and the city council.

Need that. Yeah. Yeah. It's a benefit.

I would definitely make sure that this one has it, and I can suggest to the clerk's office to have the other commission staff members do that for them. But that's something they have to request on as an option.

Just I be let them know they have it as an tried to view a city council meeting this last week, and online. Great.

You can turn them on on your computer.

There you go.

Also, though, okay, that comment, okay, we do wanna really watch ableist behavior and comments. It is the responsibility of the city of Riverside to provide accommodations for everyone and not then to put it on to the recipient. And so, again, we wanna see those on every single monitor if that's an option, and we wanna see it on these monitors as a status quo. And we also wanna let every commission and board understand that that's an option should they need it, that they can turn it on at any point and our city council. It's just gonna be a status. So like I said, I'll

go ahead and make sure that this commission will have them on for every meeting. And I will go ahead and email the city clerk's office and let them know that there is an option of having them on the monitors, and they can advise their own commissioners to do that. Okay. I mean, because their own like commission the

for the Deaf Commission did not know it was available. It's an option.

Yep. Think

it I'll might be

go ahead

and email them and let them know it's an option, and they can handle their own commission.

Okay. I think it might be best if we just reach out to marketing since they do handle the equipment themselves. Okay.

Yeah. That would be great. Just something I noticed Thank they were doing you.

I also wanted to add something to our future agenda items or items to talk about. One thing we've discussed, and I'm almost afraid to say this because it almost sounds like another ad hoc committee, but as a commission, we really want to make sure that we're serving the city of Riverside. Yes. And we want to make sure that people understand that we're here and that the information that we're available to ask questions of is out there. I would like to put forward the idea of a survey.

For instance, I received a beautiful survey from the planning commission at my home, and I've also received flyers from the planning commission, and obviously they had the funding to do that and we don't have funding. But is it possible for us to put together a survey that could be sent out? Because one thing you said is we asked about what are the community members saying, what are they asking for, what are their needs, and they're not necessarily calling 311 or 211 to do that. But if we put out a survey asking them to, you know, reply to that survey with the needs of our community, perhaps that will get some of a focus for us to work on.

Yes, you can definitely do a survey.

That could also be done by the resource guide ad hoc committee. They can work on that.

Okay. My other my other point of clarification for future meetings is when I did go to the training that was mentioned earlier, one of the things I heard is that we don't necessarily that that one, that we might not have the videography next year, and that because of that, we're not necessarily tied to our chambers for meetings. And I wanted to follow-up on that and see if, like, next meeting we can talk about that to get to more information.

Yeah, definitely.

So to expand on what Commissioner Trim is talking about, the city manager had discussed, recommended and encouraged us to go do our meetings somewhere other than here. And they even talked about maybe potentially doing that at different sites throughout the city of Riverside.

He

said go on a field trip.

He did. But also, since they were videoed or out in video, it would have been hard to do that. Now, if they're not going to offer that anymore, it would be a simple thing. Brad?