City Council - Regular Meeting
The City Council discussed the implementation of an Advanced Life Support (ALS) program for the Richmond Fire Department, including financial forecasts and facility upgrades. The council also debated how to best engage the community and utilize the $550 million Chevron settlement funds, ultimately voting to hire a consultant to develop a framework for expenditure and community engagement.
About this meeting
- Government Body
- City Council
- Meeting Type
- City Council
- Location
- Richmond, CA
- Meeting Date
- January 27, 2026
Transcript
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We have quorum. So if we're ready to begin begin the special open session to hear public comments before close session. Roll call, please. Council member Bana. I'm here. Council member Brown here. Council member Jimenez present. Vice Mayor Robinson here. Council member Wilson here. And council member Zepeda here. Mayor Martinez here. During close session, the council will discuss the following items. Okay. Item C1, conference with legal council, existing litigation, Washington versus City of Richmond, Golinko versus City of Richmond at all. Item C2, conference with labor negotiators. Agency representatives Chiron Taylor, Jack Huge, and Lisa Sharon. Item employees organizations include SEIU Local 11021 full-time and part-time units, if Local 21 midlevel management and executive management units, Richmond Police Officers Association, Richmond Police Management Association, IAFF Local 188, and Richmond Fire Management Association. We have one request to address the council under public comment. You'll have two minutes to address the council on items on the close session agenda. Cordell Hendler. Thank you. So, good afternoon, Mayor Martinez. Council Cordell Hendler. I'm a Richmond resident. So, I'll get right to the point. The unions have done a lot of good for Richmond. So, when you go back in there, think about all the way that they have contributed to make Richmond a work and play. So, think about that. And I'll just leave it at
that. Thank you. Is there anyone online that would like to address the council under open forum? Okay, there are no additional speakers. All right. In that case, uh public uh uh comment session is closed and we will now adjourn to close session.
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Hey, hey, hey. to start the regular meeting of the Richmond City Council. So, if you can take your seats, we will begin. Uh we will begin with the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Ready.
Our next item is roll call. Council member Brown here. Council member Himenez. Presente. Council member Wilson here. Vice Mayor Robinson here. Council member Zepa here. Mayor Martinez here. Council member Bana is here but she is absent from roll call. Our next item statement of conflict of interest. Are there any hearing? None. Our next item is agenda review and I do not have any requests. Yes. Um I would like to uh rearrange the study and action session. I would like to have uh P5 heard first. I would like P3 and four to be combined and heard secondly. I would like P2 to be third and P1 to be last. That was item P5 is first. Correct. Item P3 and P4 combined. Combined. And then can you please remember? And then P2 is third and P1 is last. And for the record, Council Member Bana is present. Thank you. Our next item is a report from the city attorney of final decisions made during close session. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Uh there were three items discussed during close session, two litigation matters, um Washington and Golinka, as well as um labor negotiations, uh but no final,
um actions were taken. Thank you. Our next item is a report from the city manager. KCRT, please display the presentation. Good evening, Mayor Martinez, City Council, Shasa Curl, Richmond City Manager. As a reminder, all of these items can be found in the city manager's weekly report or by calling the city manager's office at 510-620-6512. Next slide, please. Next slide. On Monday, January 19th, we celebrated Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day. Volunteers came together for a day of service focused on improving neighborhood spaces. Activities included trimming vegetation, spreading mulch, cleaning up trash, and illegal dumping from nearby streets, and completing community painting projects. The day concluded with a concert celebration, local musicians highlighting community talent, and reinforcing Dr. King's message of service, unity, and collective pride. The slide you are viewing right now are of the activities that took place at Parkchester Park on MLK Day. Next slide. And here are some additional images of the great activities that took place on at Unity Park. um that included a number of our local community based organization partners including um Urban Tilt and many others. We'd like to thank um all the staff that came out to participate in volunteering and tableabling and for all of the um community support to always make MLA Day of Service um an event that everyone in our community can be proud of. So, thank you everyone who participated and all the residents and all the city staff that that helped prepare as well as the community based organizations. Next slide, please. Um, applications for the black resiliency projects community advisory committee committee are now open. The community advisory committee will help guide the development of the state of
black Richmond report and inform the design of the black resiliency fund. For more information, you can scan this QR code on the screen or contact management analyst Jana Williamson at 510-6206574. Next slide. The Richmond Environmental Community Investment Agreement Competitive Grant Program for fiscal year 2627 is now officially open and we encourage Richmond residents, community based community servant organizations to apply. To support applicants, the city will host a virtual information session on February 4th at 2:30 PM where staff will will review both the general grant program and u mini grants. In addition, please note that the Richmond Department of Children and Youth Grant Program will open this Friday, January 30th, providing another funding opportunity for organizations serving Richmond youth and families. For additional information or support, applicants may contact Patrick Seals at 5103078016. Next slide. I have been sending lots of text messages to members at the DIAS. And so I thought it would be important to um try to aggregate them to show uh some of the great work that's happening in our community. Uh, in particular, I'd like to acknowledge the public works department, both uh, staff here at city hall and those staff that are in the operations and maintenance division and all the city departments that work collaboratively uh, in internal services to support uh, our public works department. The city is uh, excited to share construction is underway at three new multi-use sports fields designed to expand play opportunities, improve field quality across Richmond. These fields will be striped for multi-purpose sports, including soccer, and designed as 12 and under size fields. At Shields Reed Park, their synthetic turf construction is 30% complete. Projected construction completion is late spring um early summer 2026. Um and so that
is the park that you see at the the very top. Uh in the middle is Wendle Park. That's natural turf. Construction is 5% complete. Construction preparation and groundbreaking is scheduled. Um and then construction completion is expected in spring early summer 2026. And Borman Park is natural turf construction is 20% complete and the project completion is expected in 2026. There's also um we have a new term of art for Shields Reed and BTA. We're calling it the Richmond Community Services HGTV Richmond edition. And so at those parks where we haven't where we've been able to redo substantially part of of the area, we're doing our best with our public works operations and maintenance staff to also u pave adjacent to the sites to paint the buildings and to upgrade them as much as possible um to ensure that when communities return to these spaces that they look uh vibrant and ready for young people and all members of our community to enjoy. So, just want to thank the city council for your ongoing support and and illustrate that we're making substantial progress in uh in our built environment. Thank you. Our next item under commendations, presentations, and proclamations is a proclamation recognizing the 2025 Richmond Women of the Year. We have three speakers in person. If there's anyone joining us online that would like to address the council on this item, please raise your hand at this time. Yeah, I was trying to wait for the mayor to say speakers first or speakers later. All right. Okay.
I think if we can get uh the following honores to join us up here as we read the proclamation. Um, Anna Duran, Cheryl Kier, Lkesha Mitchell Keith, Miriam Wong, Naomi Williams, Regina Whitney, Sarah Wallally, Tiffany Harris, Trina Jackson, was Miss Trina. All right. Uh, I bet Williams Bar. All right. And more more applauses and woos in a minute. So, we're going to start off with uh reading here. Uh, City of Richmond Proclamation honoring the city of Richmond's 2025 woman of the year. I know we're timely, but uh whereas Women's History Month serves as a national observance recognizing and uplifting the countless contributions of women whose leadership, courage, and service have strengthened our communities, advanced equity, and shaped the cultural, civic, and historical fabric of our nation. And do you want to read on that? Where did you go? Uh just read the first one. Okay. Whereas on October 1st, 2025, Congressman John Geramedi recognized 55 extraordinary women in the California 8th Congressional District as women of the year for their leadership, service, and dedication to improving the lives of others and strengthening community well-being. And whereas whereas Richmond is honored to acknowledge 10 of these distinguished honores who represent Richmond organization organizations and whose work reflects the city's values of resilience, unity, compassion, and community empowerment. And
whereas the Richmond honores Anna Duran, Cheriel Kolier, Lkesha Michelle Keith, Miriam Wong, Naomi Williams, Regina Whitney, Sarah Wallally, Tiffany Harris, Trina Jackson, Lincoln, Iet Williams, Bar have demonstrated outstanding dedication into service and leadership that enriches Richmond and the broader region and I don't have my wait here. Whereas their combined efforts reflect the highest ideals of civic stewardship and inspire future generations of women leaders throughout Richmond and Contraosta County. And whereas these honories had made significant contributions across nonprofit leadership, civ engagement, cultural preservation, community organizing, youth development, public health advocacy and social services initiatives, strengthening neighborhoods and improving quality of life. And oh, the last Whereas their leadership has provided meaningful opportunities for residents, supported vulnerable populations, and uplifted the social and community fabric that defines Richmond as a strong and inclusive community. Now, therefore, thank you. Now therefore, be it resolved that the mayor and members
of the Richmond City Council hereby honor and com commend that the 10 Richmond honores recognized by Congressman John Girameni as the 2025 women of the year and extend heartfelt appreciation for their exemplary leadership, service, and dedication to the Richmond community. Be it further resolved that the city of Richmond celebrates these extraordinary women for their achievements and contributions and recognizes them as an ongoing source of pride and inspiration for all residents. I don't know why they put me first. Maybe because I'm sitting down so the rest of us should get chairs. No, I just want to first before anything else happen, I want to introduce my family which is sitting at the second row. Will they still please stand up please? They have been behind me since day one. Although they don't be at the meetings and all those other things that I do, I love them and I try to spend as much time
as I can with them. So, I'm here and they came to with me. So, thank you guys. Thank you. I just want to say thank you so much. That's another to be I love Richmond and I believe that Richmond can change and it has been changing. uh for the people who don't have hope for Richmond I believe and this is the representation of the ladies and also for the gentlemen that we work for a city and Richmond is my city and thank you so much for trusting me thank you for Richmond police department to my supervisor Michelle and that's an honor to serve my community thank you first giving honor to God because he is the head of my life. I just want to say that it's an honor and it's a blessing to be of use and to help um our community and it literally when it came to down to Steve Elementary School, it took the community. And so this is an an amazing example of not just what we can do individually, but what we can do when we come together. And so I just hope that we continue to move forward together recognizing that those who may not seem to have voices that there are individuals who will speak for them and that we'll empower them to use their voice because we all deserve to have the best life that we possibly can. Good afternoon everyone. Yay. I want a big cheer. Good afternoon.
I am superly proud to be here today. I'm looking over at my son. You guys, would you just stand up cuz everybody already know him, but they don't know I'm his mother. I am his mother. I brought him this far and he's standing tall. So I want to say thank you to all of you. Glad to meet all these wonderful faces. You know when time come that people are there with you, it means something and I'm so happy to know about something. So anyway, I won't hold you long because I had a a long day today. But uh we're going to stand together throughout the rest of our lives doing the best that we can do for all people. Okay. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you. Honored to be here. Honored to be with these women and everybody in the room. Thrilled to be a part of Richmond, to contribute, to continue to put forth the efforts that we do for our community, our residents, how we listen, and how we come together to celebrate them and uplift the city. Good evening, everyone. Um, I'm honored to be a recipient of this award. I'm a Richmond native and have worked for the city of Richmond for decades now. So, I I love being able to give back to my community, the community that held and embraces me. So, thank you. Good evening. I am also honored to be a recipient of this award. I am honored to be honored by this city council. I am honored to serve the residents of Richmond. I too am a
native Richmond resident. I moved here when I was one years old. Been here many years, many decades. I also worked for the city of Richmond. I'm a proud public servant and I am just honored to stand amongst this group of distinguished women who can say that we have poured out into this city and will continue to serve in the best capacity possible to uplift and to help just further the uh values of this city that as people roll into the city of Richmond, all they will see is pride and purpose and that we will just um know that there is nothing but love here in in the city of Richmond. We have a community that bands together no matter what. We weather every storm and we will continue to do this as time goes on. So, thank you very much. Hi, I'm Tiffany Harris and again um thanks sincere thanks for doing this. I was just on a Bible study group before this and one of the questions when God puts us in places and we've just feel like we're undeserving and and Lord, why are you having me here? Cuz I I'm amongst some really really great women in Richmond and I'm just like what is my purpose? And so it and it just shows me like um so I run the Bay Area Girls Club. Last week I was honored to see one of my girls receive the Katracasta Human Hum humanitarian award. Um So just things like that. Seeing my fellow Richmond natives here. I'm born and raised here. I have my Rotary folks. Richmond Rotary folks raise your hand. Hi Jan. My Kowanas folks. Richmond. Your son is in Kowanas with me. And then of course my sisters in solidarity are here. And then my best friend from my sister. She's my sister for over 35 years came and to see me being honored. And so it's just so wonderful. And I just thank you all.
Love you, city council, and thank you, city of Richmond. Thank you. So, thank you all for for honoring us. Your work is does not go unseen. Uh you guys uplift our community. You guys help create and make it even better. Uh there was a little bit of challenge putting this proclamation together because the people the person that usually helps us, she was receiving one. So, we had to get somebody else to help us out. So, thank you so much. And I also want to acknowledge two other individuals that might not live within the city of Richmond, but they're close enough, but we want to also acknowledge them. Uh Marie Coryani and Tanya Jacobs of the unincorporated side of Richmond and Elsa Bronte, but they also got acknowledged by the congressman. So, we want to acknowledge them as well for a job great done. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. And uh I just want to say thanks to all of you. It feels great to be in the presence of so many extraordinary women. And uh Trina, I can't thank you enough for supporting the council the way that you do. And uh Naomi, you have you were the first one to gave me to give me my my marching papers. So, so, uh, I remember coming to the city of Richmond and running for for council and she was the first one that says, "Hey, come here. I got some information that you need." And so, since then, we have uh done a uh selfie every time we get together, so I have to do that now.
group photos. All right, everybody will squeeze that and then somebody will take a photo. All right. You ready? One, two, three. Oh yeah. We have three speakers. We have three speakers for this item. We have three speakers. Can we uh turn the noise down so we can hear the speakers? Cordell Hendler, Antoine Claude, and Harpri Sandu. Okay. Me.
I will. I was wait I was waiting for the uh Okay. Dang. So, um So, good evening, Mayor Martinez. Uh council uh audience, can you uh please quieten it down so we can hear the speakers? Uh please take your conversations outside of the council chambers so we can hear the speakers. Okay. Okay. So, good evening again, Mayor Martinez, uh, council. For the record, Cordell Hendler, I'm a proud Richmond resident. So, I do want to thank Council Member Sepa for this proclamation. So, what could I say about these extraordinary women? They have done a lot for Richmond. So congratulations I Trina Naomi Anna and um who Sarah and um what could I say about my dear friend Naomi Williams she this woman has done a lot for Richmond as you pointed out Mayor Martinez she was the first one to like you know say come here give me come here and I'm like this woman is extraordinary she has she was the vice chair of the commission on aging president of her neighborhood council and I consider her my dear friend Naomi you have done a lot for Richard. So you better keep on keeping on. So I with that Antoine, it's all yours. Antoine Clark, Antoine Court, Richmond resident. I I I always share that I'm a product of strong women. And uh 20 years ago when I came to this council, it was my mother Naomi that sat me down and told me how to act because I was rough. Y'all don't
know. I was rough when I came up in here. I was kind of hard on y'all. And uh but she taught me some things. But not just teaching me things, but teaching me how to be a leader, teaching me how to be present in our community whereas where sometime people are not present, right? You you don't you know y'all give proclamations on paper but the paper don't mean nothing but it's what they do from their heart for the people that mean the people that show up and the sacrifices that we make from our family. So I thank y'all family for sharing y'all mother with me sis know you know I I I y'all shared y'all mother with me you know what I mean? And so you know sister Trina in this boy before y'all even got here sister Trina holding it down but you just couldn't walk up in that office thinking you was going to get a meeting with anybody. So Trina put should treat put you in check before you the door. Hey, did you did you send an email sister here? She went to the council. There a lot of these women that I know that I work with. But you got to understand that we know that what our community suffers from and lack of and we try to fill those gaps with our heart. It's not the titles that we carry. It's the heart for our community. I am a Richmond resident. I ain't from the south side. I ain't from the north side. I ain't from central. I'm from Richmond. I touch every part of this town. So, and and and and so, you know, Miss Naomi with Junth is is her is her stuff. That's where she really pours out to the community to try to educate our community about our history enrichment as black communities. And I just thank her for being a pillar. I'm telling y'all, a pillar of this community for so long. Thank you for letting me share our priest and do our priest and do um city Richmond. Uh good evening mayor, city council and honor guest
and most important our honores. I bring warm greetings on behalf of congressman John Gar mendy um who regrets that he could not be here in person uh but asked me to convey his deepest congratulations and appreciation. Tonight, the city of Richmond honors 10 extraordinary women as the 2025 women of the year. What makes this moment especially meaningful is that these very same women were also recognized by Congressman Gar Mendy as the congressional women of the year for the California 8th congressional district. And that recognition will be kept in the Library of Congress for perpetuity. That share recognition speaks volume not only about the individual's achievement but about the profound impact that they have made across our community, our district and beyond. And one of our previous uh women of the year of course was Betty Reed Saskan just two years ago. These women represent the very best of Richmond. Leadership rooted in strength, grounded in compassion, a vision guided by commitment to justice, equality, and opportunity. Whether in education, public service, healthcare, business, advocacy, or community organization, each one of you helped lift others. Quite often, without expectation and or recognition, Congressman Garandi firmly believes that when women lead, communities thrive. Your work strengthens families, empowers neighborhoods, and inspires the next generation of women and men to believe that their voices matter and their dreams are within reach. So on behalf of Congressman Garandi, thank you for your dedication, your rel sorry, your unwavering commitment and making Richmond a stronger, more inclusive city. Congratulation on a well-deserved honor and thank you and continue the good work. As we say, women with pride and purpose. Thank you.
That was our last speaker. Our next item is open forum. An open forum is an opportunity to address the council on items that remain on the consent calendar or items that are not on the agenda. During open forum, dialogue between the council and the speakers prohibited. Tonight, we have five in-person speakers. Anyone joining us online that wishes to address the council, please raise your hand. At this time, we'll start with the in-person speakers and then move to the online speakers. When your name is called, please come forward and line up behind the speaker podium. When you are called to address the council, state your name and your city of residence is optional. Please terminate your address to the council when your time expires. Each speaker shall be allowed up to two minutes to address the council. City of Richmond welcomes your comments and requests that you present your remarks in a respectful and appropriate manner within the established two-minute time limit. Our speakers are Don Gazny, Cordell Hendler, Antoine Claude, Mark Wasber, and our last inerson speaker will be Fesa Ayad. Don Gazny. Good evening. This is one of those times when we have to remove our rosecolored glasses and admit to ourselves that we live in the real world. For several many years, we've seen members of our city council and even the council as a whole take action that have divided the community and pro prompted uh numerous negative articles and segments in newspapers and news sites around the world. Right now, we see reprehensible actions by our president and his bootlooking ditto heads that make the United States look bad all over the world. And even though this is the result of actions by a very small number of megaloman maniacal mentally dysfunctional crackpots, the rest of us are saddled with the blame for allowing these actions to take place. Same goes for the people who live in Richmond when our elected and community leaders go off the reservation.
A great many people around the world have taken notice of actions by our Richmond leaders and look at us with disgust, revulsion, and even fear. Because we live in the real world, we know that it doesn't matter what the truth is. What reality is is what the people's believes to be the truth and reality. In the world we live in, perception becomes reality. Read your history books about the Nazi party's actions when they first took power and made wild accusations against the Jews. They told the lie often enough that in the minds of the people, it was the truth. Perception became reality. Is this thea the case we're seeing here in Richmond? Last week, this council voted to implement programs and actions to try to convince everyone that they are not anti-Semitic. The problem is that after their statements and actions these past couple of years, why would anyone believe a word they say? Why would anyone believe that they are sincere? That they and they try to tell us that we should ignore everything they've said and done these past couple of years and believe the PR they're trying to tell us now. It reminds me so much of that birth mother of mine that routinely beat me, telling me how sorry she was and she'll never do it again until she got close to her boards and sticks she used to beat me with. And with that, the same old story repeating itself. Please don't waste your time insulting us into thinking that your anti-semitism revisionism is sincere. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, maybe it's a duck. Cordial Hindler, how do I top that? So, good evening again, Mayor Martinez, Council Cordell Hendler, and I am a very upset resident. So, I was watching the video last Tuesday, and I was appalled because I was looking at it and I'm thinking like people do feel the support for Mayor Martinez because you have done a lot of good things for Richmond. So, I do want to put that on record. So, that's one. Then the second thing is like I had to go back to the video of June 2024 and if you remember when Raphelis
presented to us about the workforce analysis, one of the things that kind of stood out is that we need more police because they keep our streets safe. In order to do that, we have to figure out how are we going to pay our officers because they work a lot of overtime. So, we need to figure out how we can like strategically um plan on how we going to keep our officers because if you look at other cities around us, they pay their officers a $10,000 bonus just to become an officer. We need to do better than that. So, that's two. And then the final thing is um for a future agenda is um I had spoken with the principal at Celisian College Preparatory and it would be great if they would be acknowledged because if you remember when I had submitted a an article from the Richmond Standard these young people have done a service day in the spring and so I am requesting that this needs to be agendaized in late February. That's it. Antoine Clark at one court Richmond resident. You know, I've been I've been sitting down for about two months putting everything together in this city and where we was and where we at and where we trying to go. And when you look at our fire department and our police department, we are 10 years behind in quality equipment, quality. I ain't just talking about the the machines. I'm talking about quality people, training, uh resources. Our fire department is the lowest to me. When you look at San Pablo's fire department, Elserto's fire department, and then you look at our training center, it look like a garbage can. But everybody uses that training center. Everybody from Conair and all them other regions use that training center. But if you go
up in there, you be ready to run up out of there. If you really look at how old it is, how behind times it is and San Pablo have a state-of-the-art corner fire department there. Why don't we have a state-of-the-art a state-of-the-art not behind the scenes but in front of the scenes fire department training center? Have y'all been to that training center lately? This for real for real. For real. I don't think you have. On the south side. On the south side. Excuse me. Excuse me, mother. But I'm saying this to say if we're going to represent our community, let us represent our community with quality so we know what the future looks like and know can't count on somebody else to fix us. We have to better our own sales by knowing what it's going to take for us to have a better future and a safe community and a safe environment. Thank you for letting me share Mark Wasber. You got two people are dead. One people lost his finger. She lost her finger. One person lost his eye. You got several people that's going to be in federal prison for the next four or five years, losing everything they have. Now you have Tom Holman going to uh Minnesota to uh give the governor an offer he can't refuse. And he's talking all nice to President Trump cuz Trump told him, "Look, if you keep on doing what you're doing, we're going to end it once and for all." And I don't see how you people could be so stupid to go out there and support a bunch of criminals who don't even care about nobody else. Now you got the city council. You got the
Richmond PD. The police chief stood there and said, "We sponsor sanctuary cities. We aiding embedding criminals from the law." I mean, you really people that stupid. You think you're going to fight the federal government? It's not going to happen. Starting February 1st, Trump's cutting off the money to all sanctuary cities, and you people are going to be hurting. Don't blame Trump. You blame yourselves. You think it's funny, Trump's gonna lower down the hammer. I said, Minnesota's gonna try to do the same thing that George Wallace did when he called out the National Guard to stop the black people from going to school. So Eisenhower federalized the National Guard. Then he sent the 101st Airborne in and took care of it. And he's going to do the exact same thing to Minnesota. Now they're moving over to Maine. I mean, you people, I mean, you're just being stupid. You think you're going to stop the feds from enforcing constitutional law? And this clown's over here. He's thinks it's all a joke. Wait till I really comes down here to Richmond. He ain't going to be laughing. Fesa Ayad. Salam alalayikum everyone. My name is Faiza. I live in Alaro. I just want to thank thank you uh Mr. Martinez for all your support and all your effort and standing up and say the right um stand
stand up and be strong against all the odds um around you. And I know for some people they they don't like to see the the flag of Palestine standing up on in Richmond. Maybe they want to see something else. God knows. But thank you for doing that. And also I want to um thank you all of you for uh doing a good job in Richmond. I know a lot of people they don't like you can't fix everything and people need to unit it together and work together. this division and I say it before is gonna get worse and if we don't know if we don't pay attention to what's going on in the world it's again it's going to get worse we need to work together and I say it before you guys we need to work together and that's the only solution division is a disaster And if you look around you in the Middle East all over the world, that's what they did and that's what they want. And you need to look at yourself. You need to look at your history. And we need to learn from our history. People, they don't read and they don't know what's going on. They think it's it's okay to do all these things, all these divisions. Time is expired. Thank you. That was our
last inerson speaker. I I'm actually going to speak. Pardon me. I'm speaking. Okay. Somewhere here. It doesn't matter. I'll I'll do it from Well, um I'm going to get down to the business part of it first. Um, we have had a snowball scholarship fund for many, many years. It started in 1952 and it continues thanks to the hurlbutts who keep it going. This year, they need more funds to make sure that it continues. I have donated $1,000 to this fund and I'm asking everyone who can afford to to do the same. So if you can't then do what you can. Uh there is there should be uh uh a copy of the poster which is uh um showing it has a place you can send the check to. It has a a website address and it has a QR QRL code that that you can use to send money um uh by by by phone. So, um, we do have many,
many heroes in our city. Many of them work quietly without fanfare, lifting up our communities year after year. Marin Hurlbut is one of these heroes who has carried on the snowball scholarship fund year after year. Since its inception in 1952, the city of Richmond community services department has sponsored an annual snowball event to bring together high school students from the West Clutch Unified School District to celebrate a formal prom. Since n since 2020, the ball portion has not been able to continue. However, they still do the scholarship. So, um I hope that we can make sure that this continues. It's a very very important uh feature that the hurlbuts uh give to the city of Richmond. So, let's make sure that that we give from our hearts uh to the best of our abilities. Um uh I hope I hope that that you can match me. Thank you. That was our last in-person speaker and now we'll move to the online speakers. We have two speakers and those speakers are Janice Hogan and Benjamin Tero. Janice, please unmute yourself and you may begin. Janice, good evening. Uh, good evening, mayor and city council members. I'm Janice Hogan, a Richmond resident. I'm a member of local and state groups working to stop the use of illegal fireworks. I have a couple of ideas for moving away from the illegal fireworks culture here. The city app has a background photo of fireworks. It's seen every time a resident opens it and it's been there for a while. The annual legal fireworks show, which many residents love and the city staff works hard to
organize and I appreciate that. Um, it only lasts for 20 minutes out of the entire year. So, why not change the photo to um a different one that re represents Richmond year round? There could be a Richmond Pride photo contest, which would be fun and get local photographers involved. Another idea is for the council to make a proclamation that the city has zero tolerance for illegal fireworks. I'd be happy to help with either of these projects. Thank you so much for listening. Good night. Thank you. The next speaker is Bentio. Please unmute yourself and you may begin. Hi. Can you hear me? Yes. Good evening. Good evening, city council. Bentio, president of the Richmond Police Officers Association. I'm speaking tonight to address the issue again about the leave status of the administrative leave status status of officers Remick and Stocking. I've spoken to some of you privately on this issue. Um but I am asking now to formally take some type of action. Um the POA is going to send a demand letter in the coming days and then you're going to see us do more things outright in person and uh on Zoom. But the city manager's continual insistence that we wait for the district attorney or the California Department of Justice before returning officers reminto duty is not only unjustified but is an outlier practice that no other city in Contraosta County or the state of California follows. There is no statute, regulation, post requirement, or case law that conditions an employer's personnel decisions on the completion of a DA or DOJ review, which often take over a year. None. This is a policy invented in Richmond to avoid accountability. Across California, officers routinely return
to duty with modified or administrative assignments while external reviews proceed. Cities do not do this because they understand the law. Prosecutors decide criminal liability, not employment status. The city manager's approach improperly conflates prosecution discretion with employer authority and treats outside agencies as de facto supervisors, something the law does not permit. And the DO and DOJ have no employment jurisdiction, no disciplinary authority, and no role in determining whether an offsome work. Being a practice that no peer agency uses, the city is exposing itself to significant legal liability. Indefinite removal from duty without cause, timelines, or objective standards violates the fundamental principles of due process, something that unions care a lot about. And just fair employment in California law. Return them to work immediately. Thank you. Your time has expired. And that was our last speaker. Okay. Our next item is approval of the consent calendar. Do I have a motion to move? I move the item. I second it. Council member Brown, yes. Council member Ba, yes. Council member Jimenez, yes. Council member Wilson, yes. Council member Zapeda, yes. Vice Mayor Robinson, yes. And Mayor Martinez, yes. The vote is unanimous. Our next item is item P5 under study and action session. Hold one second. Mayor and members of the council while staff is coming forward. I want to just um in particular thank Chief Osario and members of his leadership team as well as director Combmes, our director of finance and uh associated personnel and finance that assisted with the
preparation of this report. Um the information um you have a PowerPoint there uh at the dis for you to refer to in a hard copy. Um and a great deal of time and preparation u was put into preparing this report and I hope that you all find it useful. Let me read the item into the record. is to receive an update on the advanced life support, first responder services, fire station upgrades and replacements, and associated 5-year financial forecast, and direct the city manager to develop revenue enhancement and financing recommendations for the city council consideration. We have one inerson speaker. If there's anyone joining us online that would like to address the council on this item, please raise your hand at this time. Sorry about that. Good evening, Mayor Martinez and members of the council. Uh, for the record, Aaron Osorio, fire chief for the Richmond Fire Department. Uh, tonight I'm joined by Emily Combmes, the director of finance. Um, Mubin Carter, sorry, Mubin, I don't know your total title. the right hand of of the director of finance and my deputy fire chief uh Rico Rinkcon. Uh so all of us contributed to uh this presentation tonight in different forms. This really was a team effort to come together uh because there's so many facets to this program as I shared the first time we reviewed this. It's a very complex program um and it touches so many different aspects of of the city and so many different departments. Uh tonight uh what we will be reviewing is providing a six-month update uh to the original plan that was approved uh as requested by the council. Uh we also will be um discussing fire station upgrades
and replacements that are uh linked to the ALS program and uh reviewing a 5-year financial forecast uh related to the program and other city needs that are uh impacting this program. Uh at the end of this action, at the end of this presentation, the recommended action is going to be to direct city manager Curl to develop a revenue enhancement and financing recommendations for the city council to consider at a later meeting. A brief overview of what we're going to cover. Um I will go over what the uh action the council has already taken at the previous meeting. We'll review what this deployment model was that was recommended at that meeting. uh give you a summary of the accomplishments we've achieved already. Um and then we will go over some of the financial estimates in 5-year financial forecasting uh including station improvements, station replacements, apparatus purchases, and uh costs directly related to the ALS program, which includes staffing. We also will review the recruitment timeline and what our next steps we're going to be taking in the next six months hopefully. and then answer questions. We did we do want to remind uh the council that this program uh there are some synergistic policies that align with this program and with the wishes and direction of the council. Uh first would be um the health and all policies. Uh in 2014 the council adopted health and all policies. The goal was to uh reduce the health disparities and improve health outcomes for the our community. Uh most of these um the policy relates to living, working, playing and educational um environments within the city, but there is intervention area six which directly relates to the quality and accessible health and home services. So, this program does
align well with that um goal and policy that was adopted by the council, especially since in West County, we only have access to one emergency room in the county. This is is Kaiser Richmond. Kaiser Richmond is the only authorized receiving facility for an ambulance in West Contraosta County. Uh clinics are not allowed to receive 911 ambulance transports. So, that leaves us with one option in West County. And uh if that is full or uh unavailable that pushes everybody into Alama County or into Central County to go to John Mir or Kaiser Walnut Creek. So it's an important aspect to the health of our community. Secondarily aligns with the goals and priorities that the council adopted in fall of 2023. Uh that the council adopted the strategic goals and priorities. Um and these were supposed to be measurable uh citywide goals with measurable outcomes specifically strategic goal number area four refers to improving public safety. Uh 4.3 refers to the adding and improving emergency response and preparedness. So this program aligns with that and goal area five 5.1 ensuring that there's the right staffing level and experience to meet the service goals of each department. So, I just wanted to make sure that, you know, we keep that in the forefront that this program is um in alignment with the direction and the wishes of the organiz of the city council. As a reminder, on May 27th, we presented the ALS proposal or implementation program. We reviewed the feasibility study that was uh produced by the Matrix uh consulting group. Um on that at that meeting the council received a report and directed staff to pursue next steps for implementing the recommended service model. At that same meeting you requested a six-month
um update as far as uh what we had accomplished. It was slightly beyond 6 months. Um the goal was to do this before the closure but we didn't get to that goal. So we're coming now. As a review of the deployment model, uh I presented three different models. Um and the recommended model was we we called the hybrid model and it was a model where we would initially in three years time deploy three single role paramedic squads with the goal of rolling them out or going live in during the fiscal year 2728. And then over the following two years through uh hiring and onboarding of existing uh firefighters at the par at a paramedic school, we would implement or phase in uh ALS engine companies and truck companies so that by the fiscal year of 2930, we would have all eight fire companies that we currently have in the city would become an ALS provider for the city. We recommended and the consultant recommended this model uh for a few reasons. Um one of them would be that it is a more real realistic expectation of implementing such a technical and and a complex program. Um and so if we b if we divided it into two more attainable um goals, it it was just more realistic for for our our staffing and what the capacity we had. Uh it also would allow us to better manage recruitment and onboarding challenges. There is a a very difficult time right now in recruiting paramedics and paramedic firefighters. There is an onboarding period. uh and to stagger this allows us to to spread that out over a few years where it becomes uh much more manageable for both the fire department for the training aspects uh and for HR to handle the onboarding um and to get through the accreditation and process we have to do at the paramedic level.
It also allows us to uh shorten the implementation period for our first step which will allow us to provide paramedic service sooner to the community. uh allow us to do it in three years ideally versus having to wait five years to try to get every company in the city um to a paramedic level. Some of the things that we've been able to accomplish in the last 6 months, I'll break them down here and give just a brief summary of what they are uh in a chronological order uh starting from right after the council gave direction. So um in June on June 14th of 25 uh we presented uh this model and the um program presentation to the Contracasta County uh executive fire chiefs association. Um they are in full support of us moving forward in this direction. It will streamline and um allow us all to provide the same services across the county. This is very important to the executive chiefs because we have a very robust auto aid agreement within our county. We are regularly in other jurisdictions providing service and they are regularly in our jurisdiction assisting us with service and they are staffed with paramedics. This will make sure that we are providing equal services no matter what side of the border or city limits we are in. They offered us assistance with accreditation and training. Some of these organizations provide uh ambulance transport service which will allow them to be able to assist us in accrediting our paramedics once they have finished the schooling and have to go through a county accreditation where they have to complete so many hours in contacts with patients. Um they also the comire requested us to consider uh moving uh over to dispatch centers just to streamline the ALS services. Uh this is a whole another topic that we'll have to come back to council about. There's a lot of
different considerations, but the benefit related to the ALS program is now if we were to go there, all paramedic and ALS services, ambulance dispatch and fire dispatch would fall under one center. Um which could decrease ambulance response times into the city. So it's something we need to look into more deeply. There was no commitment made. It was just a request to consider it by Chief Brashard. Uh I in June we also held discussions with uh AMR and Confire what's called the alliance. They are the uh ambulance provider for the county uh contraosta county for every area in the county other than San Ramon and Maragarinda. Um they are in full support of the program. Also uh they also offered us assistance with accreditation and training and more importantly part of their contractual agreement as the uh ambulance provider for the county when they were awarded that bid. They have to have a pass through purchasing program for fire agencies in the county to purchase medical equipment for paramedic service at a reduced rate or at their rate since they purchase in such large amounts because they are part of a nationwide company GMR. And so we have the ability to purchase some of this equipment we need for our program through them. So they wanted to make sure I was aware of that process and when we were ready to go down the road of purchasing that we will have more discussions with them. On July 7th of 2025, we h held our initial discussion meeting and presentation to the Contraosta County Health EMS agency. Uh this meeting uh consisted of the medical director for the county EMS agency, Marshall Bennett, and members of his staff, along with members of my command staff. Uh we made the full presentation that we made to the council to them. Um they are in support of us going ALS.
They've always wanted us to go ALS. Um, it will make it easier to deploy resources and manage resources throughout the county and make policy that is countywide versus special policy they have to currently make in the city of Richmond because we have a different service level. Uh we reviewed uh California code of regulations title 22 which outlines all the main uh parts of a als California and that's basically going to be the benchmarks we have to hit and be audited against when uh we say we are ready we uh notify the MS agency and they will validate that we meet all the state requirements uh all throughout this period. We have completed initial classific drafts of classification specifications for the personnel uh particularly for the positions of EMS division chief, EMS clinical care manager, single paramedic and firefighter paramedic. Uh these um class classification specifications or job descriptions basically um like I said these are initial drafts. They are being reviewed by human resources currently. We anticipate there's going to be multiple versions of this and edits before they're ready uh to be shared. Um but those at least those are are are done. Um on October 9th of 2025, I presented the program to the medical director for the Contracasta County Fire Agencies, Dr. Malcolm Johnson. Um Dr. Johnson provides clinical and EMS support and um advice for all fire agencies in the in in Contraosta County. Uh we were able to discuss uh some recruitment recommendations for our clinical care manager and uh discuss different aspects uh recommendations he had for developing the program. Um it's very important Dr. Johnson.
He intended it tonight just to be in support of this program because uh he believes strongly in us having paramedic service here in in Richmond. Uh lastly, we held a scoping meeting with a potential consultant firm. Uh because this is such a big lift and pretty complex and I'm down a chief officer right now. Uh we felt that we might want to see whether or not this is something we need to have the assistance of a consultant firm with. Um right now we're just in the stage of seeing if they actually can meet the scope of what we need. No decision has been made about that. Um but we are simultaneously also meeting with other organizations who have recently implemented paramedic programs and may be able to get some of the same insights and assistance from those organizations. Uh most recently we spoke with the city of Loi Fire Department who implemented a paramedic program a year ago and uh shared a lot of what they did and their documentation with us. I'm going to turn it over. The next slide is going to be uh presented by Emily. Thank you. So, this slide summarizes the projected costs for implementing the ALS program over the next five years. So, these figures include staffing costs, which you can see there in red um for new positions and equipment costs such as vehicles, supplies, and training, which are in black. So, these are the operational costs. Um so that these do not include facility upgrade and replacement costs um as the chief will go over those in a couple of slides. Um the five-year total for the ALS program implementation is approximately 20.46 million. Um personnel being the largest component totaling about 14.34 million over 5 years. So this includes salary and benefits for 19 single royal paramedics starting in 2728. an EMS division chief and clinical care manager the fault in 2627 and an associate administrative analyst in 2627. And
I do want to say that these are estimates based on current assumptions and may be refined as we finalize um job specifications, negotiate agreements and confirm equipment pricing. Well, besides besides just the program, there's obviously uh infrastructure and and uh support we need for the program. It's not just simply hiring paramedics and hiring and and purchasing medical equipment. One of the most um is it we've broken down the facility upgrades into two different or um facility needs into two different categories. This slide is discussing the upgrades we would need to implement a squad program. Um these locations are based on the locations that the consultant uh recommended. They're based on a number of factors just to remind you. One is call volume. One is a geographical location in the city trying to spread these services initially out so they can access all parts of the city. Um and also based on um population density. So, the uh first site is Fire Station 62. This is our North Richmond station at uh the corner of 7th and Hensley, 1065 7th Street. The station uh would need some improvements made to the dorm to be able to handle additional personnel sleeping and living in the quarters. We'd have to have upgrades for vehicle storage at that facility. uh and also have uh more storage uh you know u installed in some fashion at the station to handle uh enhanced amount of medical equipment and medical supplies. Um there was a high and low. This was done a walkthrough with a consultant. Uh this is just a a rough order of magnitude what it would they estimated would cost to do these upgrades. Uh we're looking somewhere between 330 and 440,000 for that station. Second station was the Hilltop station at 2904 Hilltop, corner of Robert H. Miller and Hilltop
Drive. That one also needed the dorm to be um remodeled so that it can handle uh two more personnel in the sleeping quarters. Uh that one needed a little bit more substantial uh vehicle storage uh upgrade so that we can store another apparatus there because we're at capacity at that firehouse. And that uh estimate was somewhere between 440 and 550,000. The training center tight site was actually not the original location the consultant picked. They picked fire station 64 in Crescent Park. Problem is that fire station 64 is at capacity. It houses two crews and a chief officer, a hazmat, a truck, a rescue, and spare apparatus. We are bursting at the seams at station 64 and there's no way to fit another apparatus. when we went and looked at other possible locations that are in close proximity. The training te tower site is in the actual response zone of station 64. So, we're keeping it basically in the same geographical area the consultant recommended, but we would have to look at putting in a temporary fire station there. Um, which is not uncommon for departments to do when you're building a new fire station. You may have to relocate to a temporary one. It's usually a modular style fire station. Um but there comes with assoc there's associated costs with that because of utilities, communications, all the things that make a firehouse function have to be present even though it's temporary. Uh and the estimate for that is same somewhere between 1.9 and 2.4 for a temporary firehouse. So that's the breakdown of the upgrades needed to put the squads in service. The other facet of this is the long-term five years out. We have some stations that are in dire need of replacement um and have implications into the paramedic program because they are also
at a capacity and have to have upgrades to be able to house equipment and and apparatus um and potentially an additional person uh firefighter. Um these all these these three stations were also included on the CIP 5-year CIP. Um they're not it's not going to be the first time you probably seen these because uh we did presentations at that time about them. But fire station 63 is the one in on Valley View. Uh that one has significant foundation issues, repairs that are needed. Um these are rough order magnitude numbers uh that were done by a consultant after a walkthrough and assessment of the properties. Um we have fire station 66 41st in Clinton. Uh oldest fire station in the city early 1940s has been a fire station ever since. Does not serve appropriately serve the needs of the department so that we can provide services the way we should. Uh does not reflect uh modern-day workforce and how it's built. Um, so replacement for that estimated at $30 million. And the fire station 67 is the one on 11th and on 1131 cutting. That's also a full replacement. That was a temporary firehouse built in approximately 1947. It was meant to be uh shut down after the shipyard and the war was over, but nobody left and it stayed open as a firehouse. And so we continue to work out of the temporary firehouse that's located there on cutting. Um and so that station also we've gotten to the point with both 66 and 67 that the cost to keep them functioning uh I think is in out of balance with what it would take long term to uh replace them. So that totals that all the facility replacement needs or major projects would total uh 90 98 million or 98.4 4 million.
Uh this map is uh just to help you understand the locations of the fire stations. I know not everybody knows what the numbers station numbers are. Uh the bolded circles are the proposed locations for the first paramedic squads. Uh so 68 62 and the training center on cutting. Um, we've also inlaid the districts, the council districts in here. Um, we're trying to show you that, uh, even though it's phase one, we are trying to do our best to provide services across all corners of the city until we can get all the companies up into a paramedic level of service. And um, then every red circle you see on this map will become paramedic. Next slide. Uh this map just kind of shows geographically they are pretty well um balanced as far as distance from each other. Um there is density you know issues differences between all the sites but for the most part they're pretty equally distributed across the city in order to try to equitably cover the city initially until we can get all our ALS companies up and running. Uh the one of the biggest changes was the apparatus costing estimates from when the consultant did it. Um as I shared with you before the cost of fire apparatus has um increased tremendously over the last 5 years. Um and so what was initially a $800,000 estimate on apparatus for squads has risen to anywhere from a 1.5 to 1.8 for those same exact squads. Um, originally we were looking at about 200,000 per vehicle and it's gone up to about 450,000 per vehicle. They also the original consultant didn't include a staff or or command vehicle for the division chief position uh which is needed for that role to be able to respond around the city.
They will be a chief officer that will be will be responding to incidents just like any other member of my command staff uh has to have the ability to do. And then the uh EMS equipment storage, there isn't a figure there um because we're not really sure what that upgrade looks like, but just to summarize what that means is every fire station or fire engine we currently have in the fleet and every fire apparatus actually we currently have in the fleet that has the potential to need EMS equipment related to the paramedic program must have a certain level of storage, a certain level of security um and a lock box for controlled substances. There has to be uh a securing of medications. Uh and there has to be a proper device on each apparatus to dispose of wasted controlled substances so they're not diverted inappropriately in any fashion. These are all regulated and are all mandated by the California Code of Regulations for paramedic providers. Um, and so we we're not sure exactly what this will cost because there are multiple components that would meet that requirement. Uh, we have to see what fits best in our apparatus. But, um, that's kind of an open-ended item right now where we weren't able to furnish an estimate on what that would cost, but there will be an assumption of a few thousand per apparatus in the fleet. And that's 15 apparatus potentially that have to have upgrades to be able to hold all the equipment and the controlled substances and the medications that we have to carry. So this scenario, excuse me, this scenario reflects our updated general fund forecast assuming no interest earnings from the settlement funds or limited term revenue which we'll see on the on the next slide or the next scenario. It incorporates the costs of our negotiated as well
as estimated costs forus that are currently under negotiation. So under this baseline scenario, the general fund absorbs the full impact of rising personnel and operational costs including ALS implementation. So this scenario demonstrates our structural challenge. Um without additional revenue streams, the city faces increase increased pressure on the general fund. Um, this is a conservative outlook and highlights the importance of identifying sustainable funding strategies. It's also important to note that these forecasts, both this scenario and the one I'm going to present on the following slide, do include on that lower third of the table, um estimated costs related to our CIP shortfall, our unfunded CIP needs, the MLK community center and park, which we do expect um to need a a bond measure for and fire station upgrades for ALS implementation um that we were just talking about earlier. However, they do not include any assumptions related to Point Matti or Queen Ray Pavilion as those costs remain uncertain at this time. So, I just want to draw attention to um the net deficit that you see in that um in 2930 um because this will change on the following slide. You it's about55 million. Moving on to scenario two. Um this does assume interest earnings on the settlement funds at approximately 4%. So you can see up there on the revenues there's a second line there and that's where you wrote where you can see those um interest earnings. Um and you can see that it provides a significant offset to our rising costs. Um these earnings will help fund incre incremental costs associated with ALS implementation as well as some of our other obligations. So while this scenario improves our position compared to scenario one,
it still requires care careful planning to manage um long-term financial sustainability. So interest earnings as we all know are not guaranteed and they are largely dependent on market conditions. So this scenario um could be viewed as optimistic but plausible. So this comparison with scenario one illustrates how leveraging those interest earnings on the settlement funds strategically can help bridge the gap as we implement ALS and um meet our other financial commitments. I just wanted to review the uh recruitment timeline for the personnel that we need. Um we are and this is actually in the order that we anticipate onboarding and recruiting. Um so the one EMS division chief uh we are that's the job specification we're trying to get done uh the soonest. Uh we would like to open recruitment for that position um at late in this fiscal year with the hopes of onboarding that person in the 2627 fiscal year. uh that in that whoever fills that role uh the goal is to have the clinical care manager job spec uh finalized and approved so that that person can assist in the recruitment and the hiring of the clinical care manager because uh they will be working closely together. The clinical care manager is the person that will be administering all the training and administering our quality continuous quality improvement program, reviewing medical care, reviewing the um um adherence to uh field treatment guidelines and county health policies. Uh the administrative asso associate administrative analyst uh that one position that needs to support the division. We're looking to recruit that late in the 2627 fiscal
year. And then um the 19 single roll paramedics would be in fiscal year 2728. And just so that you understand the the number the total the 19 comes from if we had two paramedic squads per shift. We have three shifts. Uh that's 18 personnel total. Um and then we only accounted for one what we would call a floater. Uh if somebody's on leave, somebody's on injured, someone's sick. uh we need to have some cushion there and one is not going to be enough probably but we feel that that along with uh maybe that along with um uh some other creative program imple uh program aspects that we look to we want to look into will be able to cover all our staffing needs. Uh there's some of the key items left that re human resources will need to assist us with. Um there is the personnel board process once the uh also I just want to point out that these are in no specific order. So they're just a list of items and some are going to come before others most likely. But uh the the we have to still go to the personnel board with for the new job classifications. Um there needs to be review of the duties and the working conditions of each of these positions. update all the job specifications. Um, we have to determine pay and benefits for these new positions. There's a meet and confer aspect with all the impacted bargaining units. Um, we have to go through a unit determination for each of the new positions which is the single world paramedics, the division chief and the clinical care manager, excuse me. And then there's going to be uh you know uh some meetings that have to happen with uh human resources and
and uh LCW Liber Cassidy with more on umou updates after meeting and conferring with the unions. Uh this is actually the same exact timeline I shared with you in the first presentation. finish. I wanted to uh remind you of um kind of the timeline we're looking at and trying to keep. So far, we are still on this timeline. Uh I think it es and flows. We make a lot of progress and then we kind of stall out a little bit just because we're waiting for some things here and there, but for the most part, we are still on track on this timeline. The next steps that uh need to happen uh will be the meet and confer with the impacted bargaining units. uh we are going to come to a determination whether or not we do need want to seek assistance from a consultant. Uh we'll finalize the job classifications and uh unit designations and seek approval by the personnel board for those positions. Uh we will need to look at uh placing an order for our apparatus, our squads uh soon because of extended delivery times. It will most likely take a minimum of one year to take delivery of these vehicles to have them built from the time we actually sign and agree to get into contract. And then we will begin the recruitment and onboarding of the division chief and then the recruiting and onboarding of the clinical care manager. Just as a reminder, what we're looking for tonight as far as recommended action is that uh direct the city manager to develop revenue enhancement and financing recommendations for the city council to consider at a later meeting. That concludes my presentation. I'm more than happy to answer some questions. Thank you. Um do we have speakers?
We have one in-person speaker. If there's anyone joining us online that would like to address the council on this item, raise your hand at this time. Our speaker is Antoine Clord. Antoine Clard. Press the button. Press the button, please. this one. Okay. Uh, can y'all hear me? Y'all know I ain't never met a mic I didn't like, but um, as I was sharing with you, I didn't even know the chief was even presenting this. And so when I saw it, I had to give you some further synopsis of that fire station. And the reason why I play such an integral part if you ever sit down and just watch the training that goes on in that facility the strategic and ethical practices that they repetitiously do that you don't know how a brain work when firefighters go out to a scene and a wall fence fall how they frame a wall up real quick right before that building won't fall down. You know what I mean? So it's certain training that these firefighters got to continuously do. We had a youth academy that that's that's here. Our future looks bright, but our buildings ain't right. Oh, I said I said I'm good. Our future is bright, but our buildings ain't right. And I say that because if you going to move forward, you got to have quality equipment. The age of AI is real. And everything can't get trained as a firefighter on AI because it's physical work. It's very physical work. go out there and try to carry one of them fire hoses the way they do it. Just try it. Then you give them their money. That's just really how simple it is. Cuz if you want them, you know, and another thing that the chief say that the training that they need need to be more
elevated to really saving lives in our fire department because we don't have a hospital. Ladies and gentlemen, if something really goes down with you, city council members, I don't care where you live at, you ain't going to make it to no damn hospital cuz cars get only have nine beds for emergency. If you don't get a helicopter to land in front of your house, you can kiss the baby. And that's the statistic. Just look at the statistics. How many people die from here to getting past 80 Martinez? Depends on how the freeway is. You may not never even make it. So, let's be realistic. We need to put money in our firefighters training to make sure that people can stay alive until they can get to the hospital. Thank you for letting me share. Okay, we do have an online speaker, one online speaker. And that speaker is Kevin Tisdale. Please unmute yourself and you may begin, Kevin. Thank you. Uh Kevin Tisdale, president SEIU. Um just want to thank the chief and and his pres for his presentation. Want to bring light to I think one critical area that's missed in the presentation um the underfunding or or the lack of resources in the maintenance um divisions and department. So, if we're adding, you know, sufficient number of units, I think either 19 units, we also need to look at the staffing and upkeep of the maintenance shop and and the employees there because they're already, you know, overworked. Um, services go longer to get done. So, adding new equipment now is nice, but again, keeping the equipment up and maintaining the equipment is the goal. And so, again, we just want to put light in into that as well. Thank Thank you. And I believe that was our last speaker. Thank you. Uh comments, questions from the council,
uh vice mayor. So, um first off, I just wanted to say thank you. This is a ton of work and will be a ton of work for the next five years. Um I had just a couple of questions about um just clarifying question first. The first three uh ALS sites that are proposed are the upgrade locations. Is that correct? That's where you would be able to um have people at. Yes. Those were put on that list because they would house those initial three squads, which means two more personnel every single day and another vehicle that's currently not there. Right. And then the next question I had was, you know, these these the numbers are always intense when you take on an undertaking like this. And I I just wondered if there are any kind of state or federal grants. I know federal is hard right now, but are there grant opportunities for this kind of an upgrade or no? So, um I mentioned that I we just had a meeting yesterday actually with Loai Fire, the fire chief and their EMS chief. Um and you know, they were fortunate when they started this in 2021. Uh there's called AFG, assistance for fire grants, and um this was a grant area that they were willing to fund back then. Um I will say that the grant opportunities related to ALS have almost all gone away. Um it's really focusing on cyber security. Um they they tend to move focuses depending on what's the newest thing in the fire service or in the public safety sector. Um I have not seen any that will fund a implementation of a new paramedic program. Um definitely I'm looking for them. But I have not
come across any uh at this time as there's been some staffing grants, but they're not related. They would just be related to whatever your normal staffing uh recruitment is, not a enhancement or improvement of your services such as this. And then I had another question. you know, when I when I did the tour of the fire stations and found out the crazy condition that some of them are in, you know, how desperately we really do need to address this with or without the ALS program. Um, we looked at the training center and did I am I remembering correctly that there is a historic fire station at that site that's not operable right now. It's got all kinds of problems. So, um, there is a a fire station that's part of that site. It's um it's a portion of the building that the youth academy currently uses. Uh half of the building they use. The other half actually they can't use because it's in such poor condition right now. Um but it has a form of a certain level of historical status. Um not the type that will prohibit us from doing a project on that site. It does require us though to restore the exterior to what the original structure looked like when it was a functioning firehouse. Um but everything else around it um it's just a very small portion, one small section of the building. Um but everything else can be um added on, renovated, remodeled, replaced. Yeah. When when I was there, we talked a little bit about how there may be maybe there's still um some other jurisdictions that might be interested in um kind of contributing to an effort to to improve upgrade the training center site. Is that something that's being considered as a part of this or we're just thinking about short-term mobile only? No, I mean that was more about a that uh vision was for a regional training facility. Um,
and one of the key uh, partners was going to be the Berkeley Fire Department. Um, we were not in a position to move forward with that project the way we envisioned and they needed to move forward with uh, a training site for themselves. It's my understanding that they have located a site somewhere in Berkeley, I think near Gilman. So, I would anticipate, even though I haven't talked to Chief Sprag about it lately, I would anticipate that um they probably are not willing to partner in the same fashion they were before. That did not include any sort of station aspect. It was strictly training facility that we would share. Um, I do know that city of El Certo, Confire, all of them that function in the county would still like to have a role in that if we could ever get that off the ground, but it wouldn't include um a firehouse. Right. Right. That was that just feels like a a huge opportunity. Um, you know, that that site is really underused and there could be something really great there. Um and then finally I I see here um in the budgets it seems like there's a assumption that the settlement funds will be used to to uh pay for these things and I wonder if there's a way forward without depending upon the settlement funds. Um maybe I'm misunderstanding what's in the what's in the financial projections but can you address that? Certainly. So the reason we um the both of the scenarios are just meant to be illustrative um representations of you know the the fiscal impact and some of the assumptions. Um the recommended action uh is requesting that the city council um essentially authorize and direct me to uh work on developing a financing uh plan and uh revenue enhancements for the city
council's consideration. Um I think in order to be successful uh in developing and implementing this program, we need to really uh sort of put all the cards on the table in terms of looking at what is the complete landscape um that the council uh community stakeholders uh labor, how how can we work together to put together something that the council may be amendable to moving forward with? Um because it's a significant lift. And so what we're suggesting is is that we can either try to work within the confines of the existing revenue streams that have been identified. Um that isn't enough. And so we are suggesting that um the city council authorize me and and staff to to sharpen our pencils and and come back with a a list of recommendations uh in collaboration um with key stakeholders for the city council's consideration. Um, and so that could include a myriad of options and and just want to make it clear that um, for something of this magnitude, I think it's important that the the council explicitly um, make that direction to the city manager um, to ensure that the council is is behind coming up with uh, revenue enhancements. So, one final question and it has to do with that. Would it be possible if we if there's will to move this uh, that recommendation tonight? Could we make sure that the recommendations include something that does not assume the settlement funds so that we can leave that as there's a whole anyway is that possible have a version a point of clarification uh the settlement the settlement funds are part of the general funds and to think of them as separate uh would be looking at them as separate
as as special funds. Uh so if we're going to refer to the settlement funds then uh before you get my vote I need to hear funds equal to the settlement funds. Okay, which is not the same general funds equal to the settlement funds which is not the same as the settlement funds. Okay. So, could we have a a version that has a proposal that offers a way forward that includes funds that are equal to the settlement funds? Is that possible? And and I'd also like to say that that it is actually up to us to decide uh how much Well, I just actually want to know from the perspective of the person who's going to be trying to figure out how to move a pretty substantial lift in terms of financial lift if she believes there may be a way forward without depending upon that pot. That's what I'm trying to ask the question without without using the sum equal without using general funds equal to Yes. Um I think staff can definitely develop options. I also think it depends on um the uh stakeholder support right so usually when we look at revenue enhancements um it's dependent upon having stakeholder support um and seeing what the appetite is for that um so I try to uh meet quarterly with our uh bargaining units and um I think if this is something that and other key stakeholders whether that's the chamber of commerce or I I have essentially I have an open door policy, right? Anyone who wants to meet with me, I try to do my best to make myself available. So, um I think if the city council is interested in um having us develop revenue enhancements, we can do that uh pretty broadly. And then I would suggest that um we come back uh within 60 days
with um a myriad of different recommendations. And that could certainly include options that uh do not include the the settlement funds. And then it and then if um and we can provide an update on if it appears as though there's an appetite for uh folks to work collectively on revenue enhancements. I can see that it's very problematic to not say settlement funds, which you just did. I'm sorry, mayor. Well, I was trying to I'm trying to thread the needle here. So, it's it's a little tough. We're I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you everybody for your work on this. Just it really is important. we don't have a hospital and this can save lots of lives. So, thank you. Yeah, I mean from a staff perspective, um I I hope that the council can see that we've everyone has worked really hard on this presentation and it's it's really important and everyone here, you know, even Darren from public works who's in charge of fleet is here. like everyone knows that this is really important for our community and and we definitely want to if the city council uh continues to provide an affirmative direction forward, we definitely uh are up for the challenge. Um I do want to note that there will be significant impacts, right? That uh all departments, HR, finance, public works, um city attorney's office, uh many departments will be involved with this lift. Um, and but I think that we can certainly we're up for getting the getting it done. Council member Jimenez. Yeah, thank you for all the work that has been put in this and I think like uh it's great because as council member Robinson say this will save a lot of lives and it's important. Um the the issue here is that the that if this is a a big undertaking in terms of the financing
and we need to be clear about that. Um so I glad that uh we are looking into different scenarios for how we will fund that because and and I have a question because in the forecast uh this program uh in the five year will be and and let me know if I am reading it correctly but after is implemented uh from then from from 2930 to future is going to be 8.5 approximately $8.5 million on top of uh the current like or the budget like it's $ 8.5 million that this program will cost year after year. Um um and and I am not saying that we should not do it or but but I just want to make sure that the community knows that when we are talking about uh project programs like these that are really key and important it will cost some money. Um so I would like also to to have um kind of like various ways of how this is going to be implemented. I think let's let's be honest uh there is um a lot of competing interest around the settlement funds that around around around the settlement funds that we have the settlement fund and this around the around the around the settlement fund that we got the additional funds that we got in the general fund from the May polluters pay that is what it is. It's It's not It's no different. And And it's in the general fund. And I'm not saying that it's not in the general fund, but this didn't come from
the the out of air. It came because there was a settlement agreement that we did. So it went to the general fund uh and it's it's in the general fund but like people like they are some a lot of uh what what also we are talking and we will be talking in in the other item that we are putting here is that we have this tremendous opportunity with this additional money in the general fund in these 10 years to have a transformation in this city and move us the dependency that we have in the fossil fuel industry to a green economy and this is part of that right but we will need to look at as a whole as well. So we we know where are the competing interest of what we want to see in the city happening during these 10 years with this additional fund and the general fund that we have. Right? So I applaud that this is coming to the vision. Um and I applaud that we are putting a lot of effort and we need to really make like sharp the pencils and the calculators and all like all the financial um opportunities to do that. Also to make sure that like we are in still in negotiations with some of the uh bargaining units to see that um we are not only thinking about giving good races to those staff personnel but also to see
a an overall um improvement in the services and in in programs like this in our community because at the end of the day a program like this will save lives. So it will be interesting to see um you mentioned like here that um uh that it will be a bond. I would like to know more about what that entails. How much is the interest rate? Because at the beginning was like bonds right now with interest rate s so high will be that smart how much money we will have to pay. So and what is the benefit cost benefit of getting the ban and paying what we need to pay in the interest rate. So there is a lot of these things that are are coming up but I would like to see these in the overall plan that we want so that we move in these 10 years the city in the direction of not being that dependent on the fossil fuel industry and be more sustainable as a city. Thank you council member Wilson. So thank thank you for the presentation. And I'll start off by saying I agree with my my colleagues that I do support the city investing in an advanced life support program, you know, through our fire department. But I do want to focus my questions on slides 19 and 20, which are the scenario and scenario scenario one and scenario two budget. So I think it's probably mostly uh city manager curl that I have questions for. So one of the things I don't understand about looking at slide 19 under expenditures. So we can just start with year uh budget year 25 26. You listed um expenditures at 258 million and some odd and then you have 1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 10 lines below where you broke out below that. Are those also expenditures? Yes. So that's why at the bottom the the blue line says total expenditures. Okay. So my first question is why did you set these expenditures separate from the expenditures from why why are these broken out? because we're currently inou negotiations and we wanted to make sure it's clear that we are anticipating increases in costs during the current bargaining period right but I mean we we're anticipating increases in cost and everything like if you look at the expenditures line in the first year of the budget it's 258 million the next year it's 290 million the next year so so separate from these staffing cost increases is everything we're paying for is going up over these five years, but labor makes up most of our costs for our budget. I mean, looking just again looking at this very quickly, the jump in expenditures. Yeah, this isn't the total cost. This is just an incremental increase. So, so under the expenditures line, you have from 25 26 to 26 27, it's going up about 32 million. And then if I'm eyeballing these staff things like what is this? two, three, four, five. Let's just say that's about 10 million more. So, so I just want to sort of like call attention to the fact that um if we're doing a presentation on scenarios about the cost of fire advanced life support, to me it makes sense to have a line calling out like doing this new program is going to create these additional expenses, but I don't appreciate having the cost of our staffing raises in units that have nothing to do with firefighting
being sort of teased out here. Because to me what it is is this inviting scrutiny sort of saying oh are we overpaying local 21 and why did 1021 get this raised um by the way things that have already been decided and agreed upon. Um and so you know if you're not going to also tease apart sort of like why did the budget go up for computers or paper or you know everything else that it went up for I just don't think this is the place to sort of single out labor as as something that we need to like double down our concern over. Um, so again, framing things like that for me is really important is to not, you know, I'm glad that that our our staff members across the board are getting raises and I think we have to sort of then, you know, figure out how to make the rest of the budget work. Second thing, um, looking at the Can I respond to that? Yeah, please go ahead. Yeah. So the uh and during my tenure here in Richmond, the way that we've been able to accomplish a lot of things is with having positive working relationships with our bargaining units. And what we want to show, right, is that um some have been approved, some are still in negotiation. and if there are going to be revenue enhancements, right? We want there to be a willingness to consider if these are things that they're interested in because we all have a vested interest in the um of continuing to provide high level service to the community. So, it wasn't meant to be disparaging in any way or to be divisive in any way. We really want to be in collaboration with both community based organizations and labor to move Richmond forward. So that wasn't the I just want to clarify in terms of intention. Yeah. And and and but your points are well taken. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. That that again if I'm getting a presentation on the advanced life support that's sort of what I want to see what that approving that project what does it add? Um and and I I can see that there but then I get all this other information that just makes my hackles go up.
And um looking at this like basically looking at scenario one and scenario two that according to the and again like I'm sure we'll have more time for me to to understand like why is it that you project that the revenues are only going up a little bit but the expenditures even separate from the labor expenditures are going up much faster than the pro the revenue. So again, I'm sure we'll have a future time where where you can give your evidence for why why you're anticipating that. But what but but what you're modeling here for just for folks who might not have this in front of them, what what staff is modeling here is in the next five years, every single year we will be uh under bud or overbudget running a deficit between 6.2 and $55 million per year. Um, so it's it's not like what you're projecting here is not just that we can't afford advanced life support. We can't afford lots of things, you know, that under under what I think I'm understanding to be this modeling. And that's totally separate from what you're modeling for the capital I won't even get into the capital projects because that's hundreds of millions of dollars more that you're modeling in deficits. And so my question is is like if I'm understanding it right, I'm supposed to just sort of take a breath and relax and then authorize staff to go look at some revenue in revenue enhancements and that's when we get down to the real deal of can we afford to have an ALS program? Is that I'm sort of like I'm sort of okay. Okay. So then yeah and in years past right this this council has really had the privilege of being the exception right but historically right every budget season we would start with a huge deficit and what we've been doing every year is we provide a balanced budget to the city council but I think if everyone had everything that
everyone wanted right we unfortunately would have a deficit so what we're saying is is that we can go back and sharpen our pencils but we are going to have to modify the current trajectory if this is something the city council wants to do and that has to include revenue enhancements. Okay. And I appreciate that. And one thing I want to sort of call out is one of the reasons why this is um frankly alarming me so much is that in my short tenure year I've been impressed and also in the paying attention years past of what a great job the council and staff have done in delivering uh not just a balanced budget but one that tends to have some surpluses in the midyear. So, so I want to acknowledge that it's it's we're all doing a great job and I'm hoping that this is not some prediction that we've gone off the rails in some way. I I'll stop there. Council member Bunner, thank you for the presentation. I'm very happy it's coming actually um into utilization in three years rather than five years. I have some very primitive questions. Um it's about details, not the big picture. So I wonder AMR is a private company, right? Correct. And what is the role of the county currently? AM when it comes to ambulance service. Mhm. It's called the alliance and what it is is a partnership with a private company and a public agency. Confire is a public agency in the equation. If you want to provide ambulance service in Contraosta County and almost every other county in California, if you hadn't been doing it already before, and I don't know the exact year, but there's rights that are associated if you let's just hypothetically if you were providing ambulance transport service before 1990, you have rights that you exercised and you get
to keep everybody after that date. If you want to provide ambulance service in the county, you must competitively bid that service in order to provide that service. And the county health department EMS agency is the one that awards that contract. So every 5 years, wherever the cycle is, AMR, when they used to be the provider by themselves, would bid it against other companies such as Faulk or Paramedics Plus. There's a number of ambulance companies that provide 911 ALS service. AMR has been awarded the contract numerous times. uh Confire and AMR decided to bid it together as a joint agency, as an alliance, which allowed them as a public agency to access some funding sources that are only available to public agencies and the infrastructure and the his institutional knowledge and historic ability of doing the service comes from AMR. So jointly they were able to basically what they felt was have a provide a better level of service potentially um provide a a a model that allows for um more revenue or funds to stream into the ambulance services that are provided. Uh it just has to do with how they access money. It's a modeled Confire and AMR in Contraosta County, one of the first agencies to get into that alliance agreement, but that it's being modeled in Sonoma County currently with medic ambulance. And there's a number of models in Southern California that are following it because um if it works the way it's supposed to, um it can it can keep us from having to get a new company every 5 years that provides new ambulance service has to figure
out how to do it, how to work in the county, build relationships with fire agencies. It provides more consistency. Thank you. And where is their budget coming from and uh what is the role of the city of Richmond in providing that service to residents currently? the budget for for the ambulance service. Uh well that's all controlled through the board of supervisors and then like I said there is funds through different um healthcare acts that help conire offset the costs to that. Um there's billing that happens by a private ambulance company for certain services that are provided. Um I mean there's a number of places that they get their funding from. Um I have never dived deep into their budget because I have enough to worry about with my budget. So that that's exactly why I'm asking. So if we're going to have our own ambulance and we're not having our own ambulance. This is a non-transport ALS system. Okay. We are not getting into the ambulance business. Um we are getting into or enhancing our level of EMS care that we provide on scene because right now you can get a Richmond fire engine to your fire to your house when you call 911 typically around 4 minutes. Mhm. If you live on the outskirts, maybe it's somewhere between 4 and 6 minutes. Contractually, the ambulance company will be meeting their contractual obligation if they get to 90% of their calls in 9 minutes or or or under. We have regularly encountered instances where we wait for ambulances over 10 minutes. Um, there are times we wait for ambulances to come from Martinez, to come from John Mir Walner Creek. It's not I'm not going to say that it's all the time, but it happens. And the advanced level of care that our community members needs in certain instances such as CPR, a stroke, a severe trauma incident are delayed because we can't
give those services because we are not an ALS fire department. we can provide that advanced care when we get there, which is that 4-minute average. We will get life-saving care there sooner, and that's the benefit of this program. We will still be turning over this patient to the same ambulance company we currently do, but the goal is that by the time the ambulance gets there, they're ready to go and load them up and get them to the hospital where they can get definitive care in the ED. And they're still alive, which is great. But my question is probably we reduce the number of uh calls they receive. So do we get any budget from the county? We will not reduce the number of calls they receive because we are still responding to the same call. We are not in lie of them. We are improving what we do on scene. They still contractually are obligated to transport patients within the county. We are not being allowed to transport patients. So, this program has no bearing on whether or not AMR gets more calls or less calls. They still have to respond to the same calls regardless. We just get to provide a higher level of care to our residents. So, we'll be on our own. No billing, insuranceances or nothing. It's just a service we provide. Well, that is direction that will need to come from this council. It is very common to charge for certain services. There are uh fire fees that some organizations do such as San Jose Fire, Napa City, Valo. Uh there are numerous agencies who have different models to try to recoup some costs. Some only bill insurance companies but will not bill uh actual individual. Um so there there's no one funding or billing um model that will recoup and cover the cost of this program. All of those uh models just offset what it costs to provide this service. And those decisions
ultimately will be brought, I'm I'm assuming, to the council to make a decision on which type of funding um which type of cost recouping measures you feel comfortable in in in directing us to implement. Thank you. My second question is about paramedics. Are they going to be always separate from firefighters or eventually firefighters will be paramedics too? The goal is that eventually we will just have all firefighter paramedics um you know phase them in. Um and you know we are in the beginning phases of figuring this out. uh the more we learn, the more we meet with agencies, the more we, you know, come up with we we adjust this model that we want to use to deploy. Ultimately the goal is that the current fire department that you have now the only difference will be that they have a higher level of training but we will bas reset to what we have now or what we need based on any sort of population increase we have but that we will eventually all have ALS fire engines and truck companies and the firefighters like you see them now show up to your house will be the same number of firefighters on the same fire engine. They will just be trained to a paramedic level. That's the ultimate goal at the full implementation. We don't want to have rely on a squad model indefinitely. So, what happens to the vehicle you purchase now for paramedics? We always use vehicles. These are just these are squads. They are a a Ford F550 chassis with a buildup on it. We can repurpose those for rescue vehicles, for towing a boat, for a marine program, for our rescue. We have a numerous trailers that we use for rescue, shoring, structural collapse. These
vehicles will be repurposed. We don't have enough vehicles currently, so we would not have a problem repurposing these vehicles for a legitimate use. Thank you. And last question is about the role of EMS division chief and cl um clinical care manager. Are they firefighters or just clinical or who will they be? So the EMS division chief will be a chief officer. Um it will be the uh I think what's a comparable position that you can look at is the fire marshal. Fire marshall is a sworn chief officer of my command staff. This will be a division. He runs a division. Chief Wy runs a division. He runs a fire prevention division. We just call him the fire marshal. But a division chief was assigned to oversee an entire division of the fire department. And so this chief officer would oversee strictly the EMS function of the fire department. That duty currently is uh covered by the training chief who has to double duty and do training and oversee EMS training and also infection control which is related to EMS. So we will be able to separate those two because that it's not feasible to run an ALS program with one chief officer that also oversees fire suppression training and special operations training such as extrication, structural collapse, rope rescue, confined space. There's so many aspects in training. EMS has to be its own. It's highly specialized and it's also highly regulated and there's a lot at risk because of field treatment guidelines and policies and the contract that we have with the county health department. We get reimbursed a small amount of money every year, but we have to abide by a number of reporting and performance thresholds that has to be monitored and there has to be a continuous quality improvement program in place that has to be managed by someone that focuses
solely on EMS. The clinical care manager will fall into that system because the chief officer will run the overall EMS division. But there has to be someone specialized in training EMS skills, refreshing skills, addressing performance issues when it comes to field treatment and outcomes of patients and um be able to train for any new scope of practice that we um is rolled out to us by the calendar that we choose to to implement. Imagine a lot of times this position is filled by someone that's an experienced paramedic from an ambulance and in some organ or organizations that's an actually a nurse role. They're specifically trained in or specifically qualified to train EMS related um skills and and curriculum. Thank you very much. If I may, I have one post last question for you. So when ambulance people come uh they're usually in communication with the hospital where they're going to transfer the patient. When ASL comes, are they in touch with the hospital too or the ambulance? Uh there will be certain treatments that require in the field. What dictates who calls the hospital is the treatment being administered in the field. Often times there are certain protocols that are standing protocols and there are certain protocols that before you can do a certain procedure or administer a certain medication require what's called base contact which means they will have to contact John Mir uh hospital the ED to get authorization to do certain treatments um that's separate from the ambulance that will call ahead if they are uh calling their receiving facility where the patient is being transported to. So yes, there will be times our firefighters will want to administer certain treatments in
the field and it may require base contact to do that. Thank you very much for thorough answers. I have a much clearer picture now. I really appreciate it. Council member Spain. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you for the presentation. Great followup to the first presentation we had on this. think a year ago, two years ago, forget the timing now, but great. Six months. Six months. Oh Jesus. Feels like it was forever. But I'm glad that we're moving forward in the conversation. This has a lot more content and I like all the numbers. I do have a couple of questions. Uh the temporary uh fire station on slide 14 that we discussing on there. What we what does temporary mean in this instance? So, a temporary fire station um they're more commonly used when you um are rebuilding a fire station and you have to temporarily relocate a fire station so that you can demolish on the c on the site you have uh because you don't have a new site. So, um often times a fire department will uh purchase or lease a temporary firehouse which is typically a a modular structure. If you envision like the modular classrooms you see at a lot of schools, same building, just the internal uh layout of it is made to resemble a firehouse, sleeping quarters, kitchen, day room, you know, all of those types of things. Um, and it's meant to be temporary, but you have to bring in all the utilities. you have to bring in the communications uh which allows for communication from the dispatch center for dispatching purposes. Um, everything you would have in a functioning firehouse has to be there just in a temporary fashion. And when you're done with it, you typically either sell it or like I said, it's a lease and the company will come
back and remove it off the grounds that you put it on. And then, so I was trying to follow what you were saying earlier. So the the because we're looking at station 62 and 68 to potentially be the ones that would be have some kind of upgrades and that temporary fire station will be for those two. No. So what the slide 14 is trying to show is that fire station 62 and 68 for the most part could with minor modifications could accommodate additional personnel and apparatus. The consultant based on po population density, call volume, and geographical location recommended fire station 64 at Bay and Carlson to be at the third site for a squad, but that's not feasible due to the number of personnel we already have at that fire station. We can't fit anybody else in there. So, so sorry. So, because you mentioned that, I I want to make sure that I'm getting so that way you don't repeat what you just said. So what is the temporary fire station going to be for? For which station that we're It would be in place of having something at station 64. We would put a temporary firehouse to house the squad at the training center which is also in station 64's first due district. The other option would be to put a temporary firehouse in the back parking lot of station 64, but that is there's a lot of equipment stored back there currently and conx boxes and it's the the consultant that did the walkthrough on the facilities didn't recommend that as a first choice. They felt that the uh site at the training center would provide for a very similar geographical location but would be much easier to put in a temporary firehouse because we have already installed modular classrooms to teach CERT and EMS u maybe about 10 years ago. So it's it was
a much easier project to bring the utilities over. So that's kind of while we're doing something on station 64. No, this would be um well, this would be contingent upon us transitioning to ALS engine companies so that the engine company at 64 would eventually be staffed with paramedic firefighters and you wouldn't have to have the squad at the tower anymore. Yeah, chief, if I may. So, I think it would be helpful just for clarification. So, is in terms of clarifying that the squad right would be at the training center site. And the other thing that this I mean this is such a complex thing but the other aspect of why the consultant for the stations recommended this is that there is the potential that station 67 or N66 need to be rebuilt. Station 66 is an example of a station that there is no other place to put station 66 temporarily and still serve the north and east um other than going moving them to a temporary station that might be at the training tower. So the idea is that you could potentially invest this, you know, 1.9 to 2.5 million for a temporary firehouse. Initially, you could use it to house a squad until you transition to ALS engines. And then you could also house station 66's crew there temporarily while we rebuild station 66. So you actually get dual use out of that initial investment instead of just using it for a squad. And then we don't know how this is going to work with station 67's replacement, but there is the potential to have to move 67 out of their quarters to a temporary firehouse to rebuild that fire station. You might be able to use that for for that purpose also and get a third use. Although that's not ideal because it's on the other side of the train tracks, which could pose delays to responses into the southside. But it just gives us options to repurpose that
station and lease it for longer. So that the initial investment isn't just for a squad, but it's for station rebuilds also. Because that is a factor into all station rebuilds is where does the current crew go while you rebuild this firehouse. And how do you move them and have the least amount of impact on response times and operations? Perfect. Thank you. And maybe in the future we'll I will have to see what it will cost to instead of a temporary do an act a new one there uh because we're only building more housing around the area. So we're going to need another fire station anyway. So we might as well look to see if we invest. So but that will be the future. So thank you. Uh next question. Um station let me see my notes here. Station. So uh uh slide 15 if you can. So it says station 66 and 67. For station replacement is about station 67 is 30 million. For station 63 it's also 30 million but it looks like we're not replacing. We're just fixing the foundation. Trying to figure out why the cost is the same to replace than to do some fixes. That that is a um worst case scenario estimate about that. It is uh going to require more uh analysis. That fire station has a a foundation issue that may be linked to grading they suspect and it could be as minor as fixing the foundation and doing um piles under the foundation or it could be as severe as having to demolish that fire station and rebuild it. We don't know yet. So, the consultant gave this number as more of a worst case scenario estimate if you had to do a significant tear down and rebuild that firehouse. Um, but we don't know what that's going to cost yet. This is just a best guess right now based on a a consultant. Got it. Thank you. Because that note there says foundation
repair and grading. So, it's foundation repair and grading all the way to repair. And the number could be anywhere between 30 million to less than right is what supposedly what it got supposedly. All right. Uh thank you. And then the um on slide 19 and 20. So the the positions and this might be a question for the city manager. So, I see that the positions I want to make sure that I'm seeing this correctly and it might be because of the budget uh as we are as we're potentially having uh expenditures that are higher than revenues, but the total afforded positions are going down. So, both of these budgets have positions going down between uh 92 to 127 positions. Is that am I reading that correctly? Um yes, you are reading that correctly. So the idea is if so what you see the total afforded positions on the bottom there. So, as our deficit increases, we're saying that the amount of positions, allocated positions, current allocated positions, which is, I believe, is it 800? 800. Um, we're saying that if we had to close that gap of, you know, in the in fiscal year 2930 of 55.3 million, we could only afford 563 positions. So, it's again, it's illustrative. Okay. Thank you. I just want to make sure because I'm seeing it go lower. So, we have to plan for that as well. All right. Uh, no other questions for now. Thank you so much, Council Member Brown. Yes. Thank you so much for the update and the presentation. I appreciate it. I just wanted to know um so on the CIP list, we have a lot of uh fire stations listed concerning upgrades and uh repairs. Um, but since the first three stations
listed in the presentation are now the priority locations, I'm wondering is that reflected uh also as a priority on the CIP list or is that included in the CIP shortfall that's on the projections? There does need to be there was a specific methodology that the city council approved for prioritizing projects. And so I would say that um at midyear we need to what we frequently refer to as we need to have a true up. So there needs to be an alignment of the we'll have more refined numbers from public works on what they anticipate the facility upgrades will to cost as well as the new stations and then we will need to work with the city council to align the council priorities around the methodology for the CIP projects to bring these things uh into alignment. So that that needs to be done. Uh staff have begun to work on it. Yes. Um but we uh will have that uh information for midyear. Okay, fantastic. Also, um I just want to be realistic because my hopes are getting like up up and so like with our expectations and then like with the potential three-year roll out like would we be able to actually implement this ALS program without the usage of the additional funds awarded in the general fund? I um I think that um we will need to think about revenue enhancements and what is the the city council comfortable with and what are stakeholders comfortable with uh proceeding with. Um and so I I think um it's possible but it depends on you know what ultimately what the city council's policy direction is. And so you know we're trying to balance these things. Yeah. Yeah, I mean the numbers are astronomical. So, I'm just like wanting to be realistic like with
ourselves and with the public. Like, is this a a lift that we could do without depending on that, especially since this is um a program that's going to impact the city of Richmond and not any one in particular or any district in particular, but um so can't wait to hear that part. Um, also lastly, I just wanted to ask about the um improved emergency response times and preparedness. So, um, how would staff be able to identify or ensure I know ensure is probably like a reach, but um that ALS services improvements are equitable across the districts because of the limited um station usage or that will be staffed with ALS. Are we talking at three years or five years? That's good. Uh, either. I just want to make sure that we um that's something that really spells out like what that looks like. So, I mean that was the the point in in sharing the maps with you is that um district 17 I don't know if somebody KCRT, can you put up slide 17? My eyes are bad. So maybe somebody could point it out to me but I didn't see Oh no, not that one. I think this one. Yeah. So we apologize. I I think slide 16 your point is well taken. We apologize that there was a an a there's a they're trying to leave us out. Yeah, that's why I want to make sure that it's equitable. So, uh public works uh Mark uh will will work with him on on on these slides. Thank you so much. But but for the purposes of the initial roll out, which is slide 17, um which is the next slide, this is sort of the initial uh strategy. And I think um chief do you want to talk about the
uh the deployment strategy here and and why this is your recommendation? Yes. Um, so this is one of the reasons why the consultant recommended squads in the beginning because squad's not the only answer, right? We could do three ALS engine companies, but then we are saying, okay, well, where do we put them? Mhm. If we follow the um consultants model, um, yeah, they're spread out throughout the city, but you got to remember our fire fire engines, our companies, each station has a a district it responds in. It's considered like its primary response area. We call it the first do area. And so, but squad can mimic like an ambulance does where it we we are basically breaking up the city into three sections that the squad can roam anywhere in that third of the city. It respond to a call. The fire what you currently get, let's just use an example as a medical incident. you currently get a fire engine or a fire truck and an ambulance responds to your house when you call 911. The only thing that would change is the squad would respond in addition to that so that they would get ALS service there. Um I will say that if it was in ALS engines it would be and I only had to do three of them initially that would be a much easier lift but I would struggle being able to equitably provide that service around the city. it would be limited to their district and if they're not busy we might be able to add them to a neighboring district but now we're creating coverage gaps in their primary district and so that was the reason why the squad is recommended because everybody in the community gets to initially benefit if we have a additional roaming medical unit that can provide ALS versus a fire engine with firefighter medics that stays in a predetermined district. So, you know, if these were fire engines, only Hilltop would get medic
service and only North Richmond and only uh, you know, Crescent Park area annex would get paramedic service. And we can't promise that that would be able to those engines would be able to respond outside their first due district. They currently only do that for things such as structure fires or vehicle accidents that require multiple units in their response. So, this was an attempt to try to be equitable in this service improvement until we can get to a full 5-year where every fire engine and every fire station in your neighborhood has a paramedic on there. Um, it would be much easier though if I just implemented three fire engines at a time until I got to eight. Um, but I don't want to get into like which Well, how did you pick them over us over here? I No, I got it. Thank you so much for for that and and thank you all for all that you do. Appreciate you. Council member Bono, quick question about that. The slide 17. How long is going to be like that? I don't complain. You know, why there is nothing in district 4. I understand you did your best and uh for practical purposes, but how temporary is this situation? Two years, one year? Well, that's part of the five-year plan. The goal is that between year three and year five, we will be implementing ALS engine companies. So eventually station 63 on value will be an ALS engine company. So it's maximum two years that we'll have this situation. That's the goal. The goal is that everybody within the two years following the initial squad implementation will be ALS. there will as we decide who which stations be get implemented first. There's a lot of things we're gonna have to consider such as call volume in your district. We are looking at uh distance away from other paramedic resources. We don't have a methodology for that yet. We also need to see
what our staffing looks like and how many medics we on board and what rank they are. There's a lot of factors that go into it. So, we're going to try to come up with when we get down into the weeds of the plan for implementation, have a hierarchy of which stations first, second, third, all the way through, most likely the truck company would be the last station, last crew to get a paramedic since their primary duties are hazmat and structure fire response. So we have to figure that out and that's something that we will figure out you know internally in the fire department based on a number of factors. Thank you. So I hope you do consider some priority for district 4 for being so far away from them. Thanks five year. You're right. So are there any other questions? If not, um I would like to make a motion to um receive the this update on the advanced life support uh uh first responder services uh fire station upgrades and replacements and associated 5-year financial forecast and direct the city manager to develop revenue enhancement and financing recommendations for the city council consideration. also to consider uh how we think of the general fund in order to ensure that um uh that the um that the general funds which uh were expanded because of the settlement fund uh can be looked at in a totality with uh with the needs of the city. Speaking second.
Second. Second. Yes. Council member Brown. Yes. Council member Vana. Very excited. Yes. Thank you. Council member Jimenez. Yes. Council member Wilson. Yes. Council member Zapeda. Yes. Vice Mayor Robinson. Yes. and Mayor Martinez. Yes. The vote is unanimous. Thank you. Thank you. Our next item is to combine item P3 and P4. P3 is to direct the city manager to engage a consultant to collaborate with city staff and city council and community stakeholders to conduct community engagement and gather input on a framework for the expenditure of new general fund revenues generated by the polluters pay settlement with the consultant reporting back to the city council by May 26 of 2026. Item P4 is to direct the city manager or their designate to schedule and lead a minimum of six community meetings each year all around the city in each district to gather input from the community on how to spend the community money Chevron settlement funds prior to the annual budget meeting. We have a total of 17 in-person speakers. And if there's anyone joining us online that would like to address the council on item P3 and P4, please raise your hand at this time. Okay. Um, so do we have u do Claudia? Yeah, thank you. So I am I think like I'm going to
present with council member Robinson P3. Um we had been in collaboration with many community organization and with staff um to have like these needs for getting input from the community around uh what we can do uh and what the community vision is um around these new monies in the general fund from uh this um settlement agreement that we have um and that many community organizations make it happen among uh city council. Um so in that sense the idea is to uh we know that a capacity in the staff is limited. So we want to make sure that we add capacity. This is why uh we are um recommending that a consultant could be part of of that um capacity adding so that we can have a robust uh community engagement. Um the idea is that we had this tremendous opportunity as I said before in these 10 years uh with $550 million adding to the general fund every year uh the first year $50 million and then after that $60 million to um do some a smart investment that can allow us to move the needle in that dependency that uh we have from Chevron. Um,
as is it says in one of the articles in in the newspaper, we have a uh 20% of our general fund revenue comes from one industry and if we and an industry that as we are seeing is shutting operations even in in this in this in this county like Venicia, Marathon and others here. So I think what we need is to be prepared to start um diversifying that revenue. And these are really um key question like how much can we decrease that uh dependency in these 10 years and what a kind of investment but also recognizing that this community hasn't have uh an investment that there is a lot of defer maintenance that there is a lot of things that the community would like to see to improve the quality of life. Um so recognizing that there is a framework that we are uh proposing that maybe I will leave uh council member Robinson to present but it's also uh around so it's is two things is one is the financial strategies that we can have to make sure that maybe this money makes more money and is extended the period of time that we uh will have these these extra funds. that we are seeing today. Um, so what is the smart thing to say? We brought an island uh several months ago about is is smart to pay the unfunded liability uh and uh the UA the uh unfunded accur liability
that we had due to pension obligation. Is that the smart thing to do or maybe not? Or what are the the things that we can do to really make sure that um we extend the life of these uh these um funds? What are the investments that we have in terms of a economic development and just transition that brings job but it brings a new source of revenue that also start filling uh or or diversifying the the and adding more a new revenue. So we are being prepared. Um, so I I think we had been thinking a lot. We had been working a lot in terms of not only just said to the community what do you want to see with these extra funds but also provide a framework so our conversations are beyond just uh desires but also be a strategic about where and what to put the money on. So, with that, I will pass it to Council Member Robinson to um add more. Vice Mayor. Oh, Vice Mayor. Yes. Okay. Vice Mayor. Funny. Um Okay. So, just want to add a couple of things that I think are really important. Um, one of those things is that this is a really huge opportunity for the city to have this scale of additional general funds coming into the city for only this period of time that we know about. I think we're at a moment where we can make some really bad decisions.
we could, you know, move forward and and and spend it all every year and not really know when we look back on it, what happened? What did we spend it on again? Where did it go? I think that this is a moment where we need to really think about what is our strategy. Is there a way to extend these funds through investments so that it lasts longer than 10 years? Also, we need to ask ourselves, are we under certain conditions now that we need to address? I think Council Member uh Himenez mentioned our unfunded liabilities. Is that something that we need to address in this moment with this, you know, kind of once in a generation opportunity? I'm not sure. But it's something that definitely with over $300 million in unfunded liabilities, something that we might want to think about. We might want to consider also thinking about the examples of Benicia and the and the um refinery closing there and creating an enormous impact on that city. They were not ready for it. They did not have the plans in place. They did not have any revenue uh alternative revenue sources and now they are hurting and they are trying to figure out how they're going to keep their city alive. Does Richmond want to be in that position? Even we know there are massive changes happening in the petroleum industry that are market changes. Changes that are beyond our control. Changes that happened to the coal industry and devastated coal country when those when those changes came down and coal mines shut down um devastated those cities and towns. We can look at Detroit. Changes
in the auto industry. It was market changes devastated Detroit. It was literally a ghost town. like for for decades they're still trying to build themselves back up because they had no plan for these massive market uh changes and their overdependence for their general fund from one sector from one industry. We're in a moment where we can see that clearly. Richmond is overdependent for our general fund on one industry. we have an opportunity in this moment to actually use this short-term you know funds to attract other industries to invest in our economy and build up um some other revenue streams right so so I feel like we're in this moment where we have this opportunity and we could go on a spending spree you know getting all the things that we've wanted for all these times um or we could do something different. We could do a combination of the two. And I think that it really needs to be a conversation that we have well with community facilitated by a nonpartial uh facilitator, a facilitator that doesn't have a dog in the race and and can actually help people sus through these ideas and weigh in on what they believe. What what I am what we're advocating through this this uh this item is to bring in that non-biased facilitator to help facilitate a conversation with community members in every district um and actually go through this landscape of opportunities. Talk about what is the strategy that we want to use as this money is entering into our general fund. Do we want to do some kind of an
investment strategy? Do we want to do some kind of, you know, prioritize spending? Um, but have the community weigh in on it before we make the decisions for everyone behind closed doors. It definitely won't happen behind closed doors. So, I'm still talking and I'm finishing up here. Long pause. Yeah. And and so I think that what I've heard over and over and over again when I'm out in community at neighborhood council meetings, out talking to people, people want an opportunity to chime in. They don't want it to happen without their voices being heard. Um, for what it's worth, they know ultimately the decision will be with council and and and other folks, but I think that it is it behooves us and it is good public policy to actually have a a non uh biased um consultant come in and conduct this community process so we can have that information and the community can be fully informed um and then we we know where they stand and we can move forward accordingly. Thank you. And um I'm in total agreement with what was said by the vice mayor and the uh council member Jimenez. Um and and to frame this, um the city council before we received the extra income from Chevron, uh passed goals and objectives. And those goals and objectives had many many uh uh interest in greening the economy here in the city of Richmond. And so and so the uh whether or not we had gotten that money from Chevron, the city of Richmond still would have spent money on on greening the economy because that was our goals and objectives which we uh decided upon. Uh but
um now that we have extra funds in in our general funds um uh we need to think about how we want to spend them. uh not not just the the 50 million but the entire general fund you know it's uh we we need to decide as a community how that money best addresses the needs of the city so um uh I would I would suggest that we not just consider the 50 million but we consider the entire general fund in our uh explorations of how to move the city forward. Now, uh we can in part of our mind keep that 50 million separate. Uh but um you know, I I think I think I think we're capable of seeing how that 50 million needs to be coordinated with the rest of the general funds. Cesar, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you for combining these two because they're they're think the intent of everyone here is to figure out how do we better communicate and get gather the feedback from the community. Uh I have been trying to work with different organizations to try to get that feedback. It took a long time as many of you know. I started doing my strategy meetings in my district since I was first elected and there I always ask and this is before the the 50 million or the Chevron money or whatever. uh always asking my community, what do we do? What is what is it that you need when you open the front door? What do you need? Because you know exactly your needs when you open that front door. I know districtwide. I know different issues. We all know citywide, but I wanted to hear from those members when they opened the front door, what was their issues? Then late last year, after trying to work with different individuals to help
potentially put these meetings together that we promised that we would do back in 2024, we sat here. I know it was a slightly different council, but we still promised that we would go out and get that feedback from the community. things happened, we got busy, whatever it might be, but I wanted to make sure and even though we we heard from various community groups come out and say, "Hey, you told us you were going to do this and you haven't done it and you told us you were going to do this and meeting after meeting we would hear it." And I felt bad, so I reached out and I said, "Okay, we said we were going to do this. Let's do this together." People got busy, whatever it might be. Then I took the initiative to try to go out and try to gather that feedback. So that's how I kind of ended with trying to do these uh together and I was opening them up for everyone. The first one that I did was in district one. It just happened to be one is the first number. There was no particular order. Then that was just going to go down the list and then try to figure out what community centers were available. Um, my item doesn't go with a consultant because I believe that our staff is more than capable of being able to do this on our behalf. Uh, the staff already goes out there and does some of the financing uh uh meetings right before our budget. They've been doing this for years. We can add this and give it a little more structure. I appreciate the structure that my colleagues put in in on their item in item P3. That's a great structure, right? I didn't put any structure because we want to make sure that this is collaborative, but the goal should be to get the in the input from the community. Now, something that the city council has that regular individuals and residents in Richmond might not have is we get close session information, right? that sometimes will help us shape where we need to
put the money and we might not always be able to share it uh in public until we finish whatever is in in in close session. We might know of other projects coming or leaving or whatever might be so we know sort of high level what's going on in the city. But asking the community again is really important so that we can try to balance that because we're never going to know what every corner of our community needs unless we ask them. That's why in my item I was saying to at least do six because we have six districts but making sure that we touch as many corners and in what what I would love to see as well is that we don't just do them on one particular day at one particular time but that we do them throughout the weekdays, weekends, mornings, evenings because our people, our residents of Richmond work. Some of them have two, three jobs. So, how do we make sure that they have the ability to make it to these meetings? So, we want to make sure that we keep that in equity as well. Making sure that we meet them at the time and place that they can make it. Some individuals Sundays might not work. Let's make sure we have some on Saturdays. Let's make sure we have some on Sundays for those that can't make Saturdays, etc. So, making sure that we're equitable there. And then I go and and I will have to ask the the city manager right as we if we were to move forward with any of these items that staff would have the potential capacity because also looking at the cost of having another consultant, right? It's $300,000. The item that we just heard, $300,000 can get us the dorm capacity at fire fire station 62. Fire station 68 can get us the the new chiefs that we need. Right? Their first year budget is about 300,000. The
EMS manager 135,000. Division chief 261,000. So, as we're looking to spend money, right, because it's asking the community, how do we spend it? We also want to make sure that we are aware of where can we put the money to last us a little bit longer. And then also going and letting the community know that if we save some of it, we can use some of that money for long term. Where do we invest it? How do we invest it? but both investing in in the bank potentially but investing in our community because our community of Richmond for a very very very very long time has not had the services that they deserve. How many potholes? How many lights are out? How many services have they been lacking in the past couple of years? We've been investing more in parks. We've been investing more in our infrastructure. So, we definitely have been turning around, but let's continue asking for those services. District 4 doesn't have bathrooms in the in the parks up there, right? So, the services are going to be different. Parkchester is flooding. I've been there for the past couple of weeks and the infrastructure is so broken. We have so much more investing to do. So, let's make sure that we're asking the community. We're leading always with what the community is looking for us to do for them. So, city manager to back to my question, would staff even have the capacity if uh through the mayor as a chair, I think it might be helpful for finance staff to assist in answering this question because they I want to be thoughtful uh around what they what their capacity is. Um staff who work on budget if they want to come forward because
Good evening. This is Mubin, the deputy director of finance, Chief Ozario. Uh uh so uh the answer to your question about the capacity uh I just want to be honest with you guys like this with the council and the mayor that the timeline that's been given and the task that is being discussed right now uh is going to be literally core uh budget department's task and uh uh budget department budget division actually is uh overwhelmed and going to be further overwhelmed for next several months starting tomorrow as we kick off the fiscal year 26 27-year budget development process which is already a very comprehensive and engaged process given the fact that the city of Richmond is a quite large city and requires uh a lot of effort to develop its budget uh thoroughly and comprehensively. So the depart the staff will be extremely busy and really stretched through June basically and I'm really being honest with the perfect just want to make sure that as we move forward that we don't give you direction to add additional work if you're not able to do that additional work then a consultant is what then you're saying even work working with consultant is a task u with the major uh we can't just leave a consultant out they're uh working on their own. So bringing a consultant on board is quite a major lift. We have to be very equitable and fair throughout the process which requires a lot of attention to detail and continuous monitoring given that we are the stewards of the community fund. So we have to make sure that you know we are bringing that accountability and we're fair and equitable and transparent which is a task of its own and it does not take away uh the fact that it does demand hard work and a lot of attention on top of the budget development
which is really a major lift. So the timeline doesn't work. So is it the timeline or the time commitment? So we give you more time. Could staff do it or do we still need the consultant? At the end of the day like we are really reporting to the city manager and the council and we are supposed to follow the direction. It's uh so the the task is there if that's what the council is going to decide. So the time will be the ask that you know we can ask right now. We can request right now. So there's more time that you need than I'm just trying to get what do you have a specific request pertaining to time and 45 to 60 additional days. Okay, perfect. So with that plus the consultant or definitely consultant because we have to be scientific. It's not just like you know collecting uh asking questions and collecting information. it at I I believe the council wanted to be like a proper comprehensive scientific survey survey not just run-of-the-mill like just because Mubine thought so survey well it's whatever mubine says we have we have to I believe it needs to be a scientific uh qualitative and quantitative survey which there are social scientists who are there to do the job Okay, perfect. Thank you, Miss Curl. Anything else? No, I appreciate uh staff being willing to be transparent because I know sometimes these conversations are hard and and so I just want to thank them for all being here this evening and for for assisting and providing support. Thank you. And then I want to make sure you said additional 45 days and I think both of our proposals have a slightly different day. So instead of 45 days, which month? Uh that
would be July sometime I would say. Okay. So in July mid July or late July. Okay. So in July to start the process or to be done with the process. I would say like uh it would be really ideal if we start the process at the time but then again at the same time like the council uh council really makes that decision. Uh yeah because that will be after the budget. So, we're trying to see if we can start figuring out how do we incorporate the community's thoughts and ideas before the budget. Maybe what would be helpful is is that the city council can continue to provide input this evening and staff can return with an updated and a draft timeline for consideration by the council in 45 to 60 days because then that'll provide an opportunity for the staff to to look at what's being requested. Thank you. Thank you. And I would also like to bring to attention that the the consultant when we bring them on will have their own timeline. we can't really impose a timeline that we think the speed that they will be working on. So there's only limited amount of factors that we can control as staff. I' I'd also like to say that this that this timeline uh isn't accounting for the work that you already have to do. Uh, you know, I I I think I think you're already overburdened and to heap more work upon you would be doing the city a disservice. Uh, uh, I know that, uh, when I have to do more work than I'm capable of, all the work turns out shoddy. So, uh, with that, uh, Council Member Brown, are we doing comments now or are we going to public or, uh, sorry, just want to No,
because I I wasn't giving my comment comment. I was just opening up for my Yes. Okay. All right. Then then we'll go to public comment and then and then we'll we'll return to to comments. I'm sorry that we're not doing questions yet. Okay, we have 17 inerson speakers. And if you're joining us online and would like to address the council on items P2 and P3 and P4, please raise your hand at this time. Speakers are Cordel Hendler, Zeneda Gomez, Soma Mindy, Alma Gutierrez, Danielle Maniti, Melvin Willis, Alejandro, Zavala, Iet Blandon, Emma I, Hansen A, Marilyn M., Abdullah A, Michelle Chan, Ryan Kasen, Antoine Claude, Mark Wasber, and Jamon Percell will be our last speaker. Cordell Hendler. Thank you. So, good evening, Mayor Martinez, Council. Um, Cordell Hendler. I'm a Richmond resident. So, I do want to thank the sponsors for this item. So, I do have my own vision uh to see the of Chevron's money. So, picture this, a lively downtown Richmond, vibrant, and what's missing is retail. Because I was in a zoom call recently and if you look at cities like Walnut Creek, San Jose and Penol, all of them have retail and economic development. So I'm thinking like if those cities can like have revenue, so can Richmond. That's one vision. But also picture this staffing. Because as I stated during my open forum comment, if you remember what Rafella said regarding the workforce analysis, we need more staffing because
they're the ones that drive economic development. So, especially regarding the port. So, let me say that again. The port also generates money. So I'm thinking like having a consultant on board is ideal because we want to get input from the community which is that's me and the rest of us. So I think having a consultant on board would be very beneficial. And as far as like, you know, hosting the community meetings and all that stuff, I think they need to have they need to also include like the the older adults because if they can't make it to a meeting in the evening, let them you come to them because hear from what they have hear what they have to say. Look at our streets. That's what I have been advocating for for a long time. better streets because if you come down like coming to Richmond, look at our streets. Streets have seen better days. So, we need to improve that. So, I guarantee you hear from the community whether it's streets or anything. I just want to see these streets to be paved because I'm tired of seeing look at looking at our streets because I live in Richmond and I want to see Time is expired. Oh, Senator Gomez. Okay. Good evening. My name is Naida Gomez and I'm a member of ACE and I here to support the item P3. Um, excuse me. Well, we have um,
uh, dual translation on the screen. So, Okay. So, it's not really necessary. Okay. Uh actually uh uh please translate. I was just informed that that this is not available at home. So people listening at home will need the translation. Okay. Can we start over? Okay. Okay. Can we start over? Yeah, let's start over with reset the clock. Well, that means that mean 50 million settlement with Chevron is huge opportunity for Richmond to meet people everyday needs and plan ahead for the closure and transition of Chevron refinery. Seas Hospital
Best. Okay. With these uh new resources, region can find essential services and infrastructure like say um walking streets, uh bikes for lines, public hospitals and neighborhood parks. We can invest in our local economy, reduce our dependence from Chevron and plan for just transition including family support local union jobs. And um we can we have the chance to build Richmond of future. A city with our children and grandchildren deserve. A city where anyone can breathe clean air,
live in a safe, affordable homes, and have access to good jobs and resources needed to thrive. Yeah. Joy is okay. In my 24 years living here in Richmond, I can tell you the bad experience that I have living in our clean air and the children like my children suffering from asthma. Gracias. Thank you. Our next speaker is Zenetta Gomez. Zeneda. Okay. I'm sorry, Elma Guter. Good evening. Uh uh my name is Alma Gutierrez. Yeah. and I am a member of ACE3.
I'm here to support P3. This is uh the $550 million Chevron represents the grand opportunity for Richmond to uh cover the daily um necessities of the uh people and make uh plans for the transition to close this Chevron. hospital. So with this the resources region can fund essential services and infrastructure like save wackle streets, bike lines, public of hospitals and neighborhoods parks. We can invest for our local economy. Okay. We have the opportunity to have uh in the future a city in Richmond where our children and grandchildren deserve in a city where everyone can breathe clean air. Um, excuse me. Uh, uh, before she begins, uh, I I just heard from from tech that,
uh, that the translation gets confused when it switches back from English to Spanish, English to Spanish, and they would like to see if the translations can improve if they just hear it in Spanish. Okay. Thank you. for um this is Asma combined. Okay, it's working now. Yeah, the translations did improve. Yep. Danielle Merity. Danielle, can you guys hear me? Yes. Speak right in mic. Go ahead. Okay. This settlement exists because Richmond residents live for decades with pollution, health impacts, and economic harm. This is repair money and should be directly benefit our families, youth, neighbors, and public safety
where the money goes. 22% should go to work workforce pathways which include building a Chevron independent local economy which includes port and logistics workforce non-oil city-owned energy and utilities career housing production and construction trades small manufacturing circular economy arts media culinary and creative economic economy programs career pipelines which include trades green jobs healthcare and p public service and 25% should go to affordable housing anti-displacement keeping Enrichments, housed and save, affordable housing, development prof and preservation, tenant protections and emergency and rental assistance, home repairs and grants for safety and city- owned apartments and family housing which can create revenue. 18% should go to small businesses and local wealth. Keeping money circulating locally, grants and zero interest loans, protection for legacy businesses and commercial corridor and storefront improvements. Health and clean air and neighborhood improvement which would be 13% repairing long-term health harm asthma and chronic disease provision home and school air filtration parks lighting and safer neighborhoods. 14% to go to Richmond police department and the fire Richmond fire department safe staffing faster response stronger accountability hiring officers to improve response time and 7% to go to city stability which is the pension debt reduction 1% should go to community oversight and voice and true public safety mean housing opportunity and health and well staff accountability and working together and that's all I can send this in an email Melvin Willis. Hi. Uh, good evening, mayor, members of the council. Melvin Willis here with the Richmond
Progressive Alliance and also ACE encouraging you to support these items unanimously. Uh a lot of community groups who have been even before the polluters pay settlement came forward have been talking to frontline community members about what they need. What is their experience living in a refinery town? Especially for those that are living close to the fence line in our Iron Triangle, North Richmond, Parkchester Village, everybody who that's downwind from the refinery. And yeah, it's been said multiple times today and even before we reach this day, there's a lot of community concerns about the city's over reliance on the revenue that comes from Chevron in general and the fact that we're in a climate crisis and we need to be figuring out what kind of other opportunities are out there and framework opportunities are out there that can make Richmond more dependent, more independent as opposed to being dependent on one industry. We're also in a climate crisis. Like I said, a lot of folks have been having those conversations about sea level rise and how are we as a region getting ready for that. And you know, we don't want to be like Benish and those other cities where, you know, all of a sudden refinery left and you have a bunch of workers that are out of work now in a big mess that needs to be cleaned up. So having a framework and a plan on how this money can actually build investment for the city's long-term longevity on top of coming up with a potential cleanup plan because refineries are not going to be forever. It's a finite thing that's going to take time. But eventually we are going to have to start living in a world where fossil fuels are just obsolete and we're going to have to clean up the contamination that we already have rather than be stuck with contamination like some of our areas in Marina Bay have been dealing with for years. So, please support this item. It's a good first step and let's actually get some benefits out there for Richmond residents. Thanks so much, Alejandro Zavala.
Say one more time. Alejandro Zavala followed by Iet Blandon. Fore! Foreign! Foreign! Fore blend. Sorry. Yeah. Okay. Emma I So I guess this person Good evening, Mayor Martinez and city council members. My name is Emma Isi and I'm a local policy coordinator at Apen or Asian Pacific Environmental Network here in Richmond. And I'm here today to support the item brought by Council Member Jimenez Robinson and Mayor Martinez. Why does this matter? For generations, the Richmond community has been impacted by the Chevron refinery in their day-to-day lives. As many people were saying before, battling asthma attacks at home and having to risk the a repeated 2012 disaster always in the
back of their minds. alongside our members, a few of whom you'll hear from today. Um, we support this proposal because the additional and hard $550 million is a chance for Richmond to both fully fund the crucial improvements in their neighborhoods and help build that just economy independent of the fossil fuel industry. What we see in item P3 is a thoughtful framework that outlines categories of spending that match needs of our community and um really uh specifically outlines a clear path for the city to gather that accessible community input, prioritizing voices often left out of planning conversations. Um, from my conversations with our membership and from talking to people at tableabling events like at Unity Park um, for MLK Day, um, I know that the community has a clear vision of Richmond's future with clean air, with spaces for celebration, supports for small businesses, job training for youth, and affordable housing. Um, and it's really up to the city to keep gathering that feedback and figuring out how to make those visions a reality. I urge the council to get started on the work so the city can begin funding the community's immediate needs and move towards diversifying our economy. Together we can create this shared vision with community health. Just time is expired. Okay. Thank you. Hassan A. Hello city council. My name is Hassan and I'm in ninth grade. I go to school in Richmond and I'm a youth leader with AsianPacific Environmental Network. As I grow older, I realize how important it is that Richmond plans ahead for a closure or transition away from the Chevron Refinery. This
$550 million settlement gives Richmond a great opportunity to meet every day of our residents. As a young person, I've been part of the after school programs where there wasn't enough staff or activities. This has negatively impacted my opportunity to grow my interest or skills. I've also noticed my library being underfunded and they've struggled with getting things like books and enough copies. Um, if we take the time to invest in the wellbeing of our youth and overall community, I believe we deserve better. I would like to see Richmond, where we invest in our local economy and plan for a just transition, including jobs, including jobs that support families and programs that spaces that benefit youth and the cleanup of toxic polluted sites. City council, I urge you to please vote yes today night on P uh three. Thank you. Marilyn M. Marilyn M. Oh, okay. Great. Go ahead. Hi, my name is Marilyn and I'm a youth leader with the AsianPacific Environmental Network. I'm in 10th grade and I'm a student at Danza High School. When I walk outside of my door every day, I have a clear view of the Chevron Refinery. My family came here to Richmond as immigrants and refugees, while other working families have been here for generations. I believe that the $550 million settlement with Chevron is a huge opportunity for Richmond to meet people's day-to-day needs while planning ahead for what comes next if the refinery were to close or transition. With these additional resources, Richmond can invest in critical services and infrastructure such as safe walkable streets, bike lanes, public public hospitals, and neighborhood parks while strengthening the economy, reducing reliance on Chevron, and planning for a just transition that includes good union jobs and the cleanup
of contaminated sites. These funds must be reinvested to the community to reflect the needs and priorities of Richmond residents. I support item P3 tonight and I encourage you to vote yes. It is time for the Richmond community to voice how we want these funds to be spent. Thank you. Okay, our next speaker is Abdullah A followed by Michelle Chan. Abdullah. Good evening, council members. My name is Abdullah. I am a youth leader with Asian Pacific Pacific Environmental Network. I'm an eighth grader and I go to school at Making Waves Academy. Just like my friends and my friends and neighbors, I come up from a family of hardworking immigrants who call Richmond home. We have all been affected by Chevron's pollution and deserve a voice in deciding how these $550 million settlement funds should be spent. With these new resources, I would like to see this money go towards essential services and infrastructure such as more community events, youth programs, and even a hospital. I would I would also like to see it go towards immediate needs such as safer roads and less potholes in the ground. It's very important to me that these funds get invest invested back into the community to benefit the people of Richmond. I support item P3 tonight and urge you to vote yes. Thank you, Michelle Chan. Good evening. Um, you know, things are pretty rough out here in our world and in our country and it's hard sometimes to even read the news. But there is a bright spot for me personally and that
is here in Richmond. both for the amazing youth that we have as well as the settlement money which is generational historic and pro can provide a down payment towards a just transition to a fossil-free future towards a clean environment thriving where everybody is a part of it and where we have a healthy community where people are secure and this is the city we deserve. So, thank you so much um Mayor uh Martinez and Council Member Jimenez and Robinson for bringing forward P3. Um and let's not forget how we got to this point to this opportunity, right? It was that it was a grassroots coalition of residents that went doortodoor and were able to under the polluters pay initiative bring Chevron to the table. And so I think it's only fitting that the community also should be deeply involved in how this money should be spent. And so I strongly support the framework that has been sketched out in P3. Um there's an incredible idea for a mechanism to provide residents with some kind of way to propose ideas that they have for how Richmond can create jobs for how we can produce income and um revenue, how we can enhance the city, how we can become more resilient to the climate chaos. And I also really appreciate how the framework makes room for big picture really visionary economic development, big things maybe like port improvements as um imagined through the um green blue new deal or maybe even helping to bring a hospital to Richmond to not only save lives but to serve as an anchor um economic institution. So I think this framework um provides a great balance and we should get to work with engaging the community to really come up with a smart strategy for us now and for the future. Thank you. Ryan Kaen followed by Antoine Cl. Ryan,
hi there council. Uh hello there everybody else. Uh, so I've come here wearing many hats tonight, of course. Wow, I'm very Okay, there we go. Uh, I come here wearing many hats tonight. I am an RPA member. I am a member of ACE and as well as uh the Democratic Socialists of America. And I live and work here in Richmond. Uh, I work with uh youth in particular through my organization uh teaching communication skills uh with the goal of advancing equity and uplifting marginalized voices. And so this settlement fund provides I think a very important opportunity. Uh I think it absolutely makes sense that we should invest this money so that we can build independence from Chevron. But also when we talk about the people that this could benefit, I haven't really heard mention of at least not directly our unhoused community. I spend um a fair amount of my spare time um hanging out and helping the unhoused community in my neighborhood. I live in the Iron Triangle. Um and the thing is is these people, even if we had these district meetings as are being proposed, they would not be at the table because that's just not their reality. And so I hope that when this consultant comes that they go to the encampments, that they talk to the unhoused people in our communities. the majority of whom who I speak to are elders, black elders. We have abandoned this community. And the thing is is you say that this is a um once in a generation opportunity, Vice Mayor Robinson, and I agree. That means we need to pass once in a generation policies, guaranteed basic income, social housing, things that go beyond just creating jobs, things that no matter who or what part of a working family you are,
if you fall on hard times, you have a safety net that is guaranteed. Thank you. Antoine Claude, followed by Mark Wasber. And our last speaker will be Jamie Pcel, in person speaker. All I got to say is my name Mantoan. I'm a long time Mr. resident. Y'all missed everything they talking. That's why them two guys sitting be how this city is going to get somebody to come here to regulate this money. They say they can't do it. And the dude they going to get can't do it because he ain't from Richmond. If you don't know the history of this town, you can't tell us how to get out. You can't tell me me somebody come to tell me from Berkeley how we get down in Richmond for the last 50 years and how it affected my community living around a refinery right you know why I know I'm on an inhaler right now not yesterday right now I keep it in my pocket goodie for you right now I got bronchitis I got bronchitis asthma and I got CPOD right now you can't tell me that people going to tell you how to spend that money the people who live here. Look at our education system. We got the lowest education system in history in this town when we had the highest rate in the 60s and 70s and 80s. Had the most professional athletes come out of Richmond you ever seen. Now our whole educational system didn't crash and burn because this council never supported these kids when Johnny Holmes was asking you for money to take them track stars that he come out of his track team to different places when the Richmond Steelers coming in and begged you for money and you gave them crumbs. But you'll bust your neck to put up a damn uh soccer field, but you won't support the community as a whole. Richmond is a diverse community. We have a whole Hindu Indian community don't even talk about that's here that do all the businesses here. I mean, I'm just keeping it 100. So, when this dude come here, this consulting person, you going to give $300,000 to
walk in my community, he ain't going to go to the hood. Oh, he ain't coming to St. John's. He ain't going to Crescent Park. He ain't going to to the TE's. He ain't going to the He ain't going to the mana where the black folks who've been here all their lives and get their input because you going to want him to come somewhere they can't go border lines in Richmond you can't cross so Mark Wasber Jamon Pcel uh you left your phone up One of your three phones almost going to be harder to follow than if it was Mark. Um, all I would I think actually a lot of the community has really spoken about what the things that they're really interested in, but I think that we need to make sure that we are going to hear all of the act all and I mean all all of the community. We have done many many surveys. We've done many many uh bits of outreach. We usually end up with our surveys having what about 350 responses unfortunately and it's just because we are not going and meeting them where they're at. I do think that we need to take our time. I think we need to give the time for them to do a a a really detailed analysis of if we spend all this money or if we how we can best invest it to make sure that we can become financially independent of Chevron. Um the Norway Sovereignty Fund is very similar to it started very similar to this. It was taking oil money and investing it. Now they waited like 40 years and but they cover their entire budget in just the funds from that. Now I'm not saying that we should do that but I am
saying that there is a way to be able to try and have as a backup when we have the es and flows of economy come in to be able to have a safety net for the city because if we offer only services we will have to pull those services when the money runs out. If we offer only uh infrastructure, we're not going to address the needs of the people that are are are hurting and it's probably going to be hurting more and with at least within the next couple of years. So, I do have I have no problem with and I know I'm speaking from a place of privilege. I really do have no problem with trying to make sure we get it right. So that way then we don't feel like we're hurt because we have uh spent too too freely and and and we end up with nothing. Can't kill the golden goose. We got to get those eggs under the nest and try to make more geese. That was our last inerson speaker. Now we'll move to the online speakers. We have seven speakers. And those seven speakers are Francisco Ortiz followed by Sean Stalbum, Bana Sitney, Kevin Tiddale, Marisel Cantu, Erica Seial, and Arto Runila will be our last speaker. Francisco, please unmute yourself. You'll have two minutes, and you may begin. Good evening, mayor and council members. My name is Francisco Ortiz. I'm president of United Teachers of Richmond, representing over 1500 educators across West Contraosta Unified School District. I'm a graduate of Richmond public schools and a parent of a TK student attending schools here in Richmond. UTR was proud to actively support the polluters pay initiative and tonight we stand in solidarity with APEN communities for a better environment and ACE and the many community groups who organized for years to bring this historic victory to Richmond. The $550 million settlement with Chevron is a once in a generation opportunity as highlighted by other
community members and um uh Council Member Robinson. It's a chance to repair harm, meet people's everyday needs, and plan responsibility for our future beyond refinary dependence. For our students and families, this means investing in the conditions that allow young people to thrive. safe routes to school, clean air, neighborhood parks, health services, and stable family supporting union jobs. I want to speak directly to the opportunity in front of us around community schools. Most of the community schools in West Contraosta are located right here in Richmond. These schools are hubs providing mental health supports, family engagement, food access, and wraparound services that address the real barriers students face outside the classroom. Our neighbors in San Pablo support every community school within its boundaries and Richmond can and should play a stronger role as well. With these funds, the city has the opportunity to partner more deeply with schools to expand services, stabilize programs, and improve outcomes for students and families who have borne the greatest impacts of pollution and disinvestment. Most importantly, the families, workers, youth, and elders most impacted by Chevron's pollution must have a real voice in how these funds are spent. I strongly support P3 and urge a yes vote tonight. Let's ensure that the resources are invested back into the community. Thank you. Your time is expired. The next speaker is Sean Stalbomb. Please unmute yourself. You'll be you may begin. Good evening, city council members. Sean Stalbomb with IFPTE local 21 representing more than 160 mid managers and executives of the city of Richmond. Workers in Richmond stand in solidarity with CBE, ACE, Apen, and so many other community organizations who worked to get the polluters pay initiative
uh to the ballot. And we are in support of the plan submitted by council members Jimenez and Robinson and Mayor Martinez for consultant engagement and community input regarding the polluters pay settlement funds. Specifically, we stand in support of item P3, but in opposition to item P4. We support item P3 because it calls for collaboration with city staff whom we represent as well as the city council and community stakeholders to conduct the needed community engagement. Additionally, the P3 plan contemplates a necessary framework for the expenditure of these new general fund revenues to include many areas of need throughout the city, including city staffing, a just transition, and healing harmed communities. It's a fair, comprehensive app approach that includes the city workers who deliver city services. P4 on the other hand is narrowly focused only on community meetings and it's redundant in that P3 includes conducting community engagement already. Also P4 lacks context for these discussions with the community treating the polluters pay settlement funds as a freeforall pot of money which they are not. P3 is the more comprehensive approach that involves all stakeholders including city staff and community groups. We strongly recommend the framework in P3 as the better, more comprehensive approach. Thank you. Thank you. The next speaker is Briana Sitney. Please unmute yourself and you may begin. Good evening. I am Bana Sitney, director of the Richmond Our Power Coalition and Cooperation Richmond. This $550 million settlement with Chevron is a huge opportunity for Richmond to meet their residents needs. The community has to live with the effects of living in a refinery city and these funds came from these from the hard work of these same residents. They must be included in
this conversation about how these funds will be spent. Allow the people to be heard. I strongly support item P3 and I urge our council members to vote yes. Thank you. The next speaker is Kevin Tisdale. Please unmute yourself and you may begin. Thank you. Uh Kevin Tisdale representing SEIU. Um we stand in solidarity with the various community groups and P3. Um we need an equitable solution, one that intentionally reviews the many viewpoints of a diverse community from their diverse meth from their diverse viewpoints and diverse methods to truly come with an unbiased approach. This is not about spending money recklessly. It's about investing it wisely. When we discussing the stewardship of over $550 million plus interest, allotting up to $300,000 for proper leverage and to protect those funds. So again, it is uh so it's not excessively wasted. It's responsible. Um I call for equity for the real Richmond. that includes input from community members across various districts, community representatives, nonprofits, business districts, and the city service members who live, work, and play here. Um the deputy director of finance said it very clearly, many staff, many departments are already overwhelmed and understaffed. Um without adequate staffing, we can't provide the service that the city so desperately needs in the various departments throughout finance, building, code, nonswarm, and ma maintenance divisions. um which we so desperately need to do. Um on a personal note, you know, living in Richmond, growing up near Ethan Pen and Partchester, um this is really a once in a-lifetime opportunity. And again, we should take the time, apply the energy necessary to engage a proper consultant to vet the community's historical needs, current realities, and future priorities.
Thank you. Thank you. Our next speaker is Mayor Santanu. Please unmute yourself and you may begin. Hey, can you hear me? Yes. Oh, there we go. Hi, I'm Marisu, District 6 um resident, third generation district 6 president and also a member of Richmond Progressive Alliance. RPA stands in solidarity with CBE, APEN, ACE, and so many others um to vote yes on P3 and not on P4. Um looking at the RFP, there's things that um I want to highlight in particular that the timeline is quite outdated now because we're already at the end of February. So updating that um to reflect we're already at the end of January to reflect um a consultant coming in in February. Also, the RFP was missing language accessibility. It didn't mention surveys, but there's a lot of languages that are not written in Richmond, um, including different dialects in the AAPI community, indigenous language, languages like mum, and the RFP is lacking in that. Also, it doesn't mention anything about hybrid opportunities for both um working-class people to join. And I didn't see a communications or outreach plan that was really thorough um that would be co-developed with CB uh with CBOS. And I think that we're really missing the mark if we don't send mailers out to all of our community members to um encourage them to attend these uh community sessions to help inform this process. I also think that um an outreach and community engagement plan for the unhoused residents, formerly incarcerated residents, and undocumented residents um needs to be included
in this. And I would love to see our displaced um residents or that have been gentrified out be included so they have a right to return. Thank you so much. Thank you. The next speaker is Erica Se. Please unmute yourself and you may begin. Hi everyone. My name is Erica and I'm here representing Communities for a Better Environment or CBE. Um, I would like to urge you all to vote yes on these items as they will further a decadesl long effort to ma move the city away from fossil fuels. These items that are start to putting our money where our mouth is, directing the hard-earned money from Chevron towards building a clean and equitable Richmond for all. A vote for these items is a vote for public process and community participation and a vote for a vision of Richmond that's designed by and for residents. It's a vote towards shaping the future of our city. And I know that CBE members are are excited and ready for this future. If today's comments say anything, it's that Richmond residents are also ready for this new future. Now, I understand that the city has limited staff time to dedicate to this process, but I urge you all to move as fast as possible on this so that residents can actually see the benefits of the money that they fought so hard for and start to ameliate the devastating effects of a refinery that's been here for over a century. I would also like to echo some of the comments by previous speakers to make a point to reach residents whose voices otherwise would not be heard, including the unhoused community um and our black elders. Thank you. Thank you. And our last speaker will be Artu Rentila. Please unmute yourself and you may begin. Good evening, Mayor and City Council. My name is Ardo Retila. I'm calling from the Fair Hilltop Neighborhood Council or the Fair Hilltop Neighborhood Area. Um, I'd like to remind uh the city council and the mayor that uh the city of Richmond is 52
square miles. Uh, it's got 33 neighborhoods. Um, and 120 over 120,000 residents. I would hope that uh the neighborhood councils and uh other community stakeholders are involved in the conversations. While I lean towards P3 and agree with all the uh speakers before me, I urge you to be fiscally responsible. Uh knowing that this is a sanctuary city and that sanctuary city could uh city funding could be pulled. Uh I ask that you're smart and methodical in spending your money. Uh we we really need you to be uh smart because uh you are elected officials and you're held to a higher standard. uh and you're uh fiscally responsible for taxpayers money and uh you should be held uh to that regard. I appreciate the time. Thank you. Thank you. And that was our last speaker. Thank you. Uh public um comments are closed and now we'll go to questions and and comments by the council. Uh council member Brown had her hand up first. Thank you, Mayor Martinez. Um, so I've like my short time on council, I just recognize that most reports that we've come across um have not been implemented. Like we get these extensive reports and they're just that reports that sits in our database. If someone chooses to read them, they do. but I haven't seen them actually um work. So, I'm concerned that this would be just another report. Um, this item seems and sounds like to me from what I've heard from um, residents,
callers, and um, the agenda item that it seems to be set up to be spent on a just transition, which I'm not opposed to, but it's not what the community uh, speaks about. Um, especially where I serve district serving the city of Richmond, but in particularly in my district, district one being one of the most impacted communities, no one speaks too much about like if you go up and say what are like the top three concerns that you have. Air quality is not going to come out of most of the uh residents mouth. They speak about safety. They speak about clean streets, options for youth, etc. Um, so I really want us to get real about our relationship with Chevron. It's like um a person that we say we don't want to be with, but we're constantly accepting gifts and money from. So it's like on one hand, it's like we want this just transition. we want to move so far away from Chevron, but we're constantly in tango with Chevron time and time again just um from being a fourth generation Richmond resident. Also, it has been said that uh we want a non-biased consultant, but the agenda report explicitly states that the consultant would would work particularly with community-based organizations that are a part of the make polluters pay campaign. So while those groups are amazing stakeholders, I see many of you here, um they are not the entirety of Richmond and community engagement, that process to me should not be centered on one coalition, but um one coalition or advocacy uh campaign, but Richmond overall. And so my question is how can
staff ensure that the prioritization of one coalition doesn't speak for the entire city because it's stated that the co that the consultant would be working with the polluters pay coalition. Okay, maybe they'll answer that later. Um, also I want to acknowledge that little over a year ago, Council Member BA proposed a $100,000 um for a consultant uh for community input just similar to what we're discussing tonight and it was overly criticized giving um its intent. So now we're here asking to approve up to $300,000 for essentially the same functions. So I was kind of confused about that. Um, and I just want to ask probably staff, can community, since P3 talks about that they'll have community engagement and gathering input. So can community engagement and gathering the input be accomplished through staff overtime which would be significantly uh a lower cost than an actual consultant who would require staff support anyways. The matter goes beyond this the overtime or the staff timing. It's the matter of like designing the survey also as you raised a very valid question like how do you make sure that every segment of the community is incorporated in a survey. So like uh for some reason that that goes beyond the capacity or the skills of the the finance department staff were not trained to design a qualitative uh surveys. Okay, which would you know uh uh identify it and assure that it's a fair and comprehensive and valid surf scientific survey which represents the society the community
that we're dealing with. Okay. So that is one reason why we're uh leaning towards having a third party expert involved. Throughout all of our departments, there's no qualified staff to conduct such engagement in I don't believe if there is a a job des I'm not aware of the job description that would exist that would require one to have like uh a skill set to design qualitative surveys. Okay, you're you're making a good point. We it would be helpful and this is something that I have discussed with uh with human resources um around having more support around data analytics um and quantitative analysis for you know looking at short-term and longitudinal data um that is something that uh we do need to to work towards. Um I I think the opportunity here is it depends on what level of engagement the council wants, right? Like if um if the council wants a scientific survey um then it would be helpful for us to have a consultant. That's what we normally do right now for our longitudinal data that asks residents around how you know they perceive the community, how do they perceive services, things of that nature. If the council wants to have it to be more specific and more of a defined process that um has potential uh that is not a scientific study um or in asking uh questions in a manner that would be easy to replicate um for in the future to measure progress. Um that's that's different. So it it's really up to the city council in terms of what uh so that's why I was suggesting based on the feedback this evening right whatever the council policy direction is that staff have a moment to go back regroup give 45 to 60 days to then come
up with a plan based on the feedback that's given this evening because I think it's it's pretty hard um at this hour for everyone to think through um what would be required and to put something together that we feel like would be responsive to the council's policy direction. Okay. And just also wanting to know cuz I mean up to $300,000 to me seems like crazy. Um especially when they're being told that they have to work with certain groups. Um so it already seems skewed to me. So I'm wondering if we can implement a cap on the consultant amount. Well, what if I may, what I would what I generally suggest to to council is that um if there's a that we develop an RFP, we issue the RFP and then we come back with the R with the respondents um and then with a proposed contract and a dollar amount that we don't say in the RFP up to X or up to Y because you know it could be 150,000, it could be 350. we don't know where the market is at for this type of work, you know, right? But I'm asking, can we hold the line as a council saying, but maybe you want to do that once you have the rankings, right? Like maybe I'm making this up, right? Maybe three firms respond, maybe seven firms respond, right? And you and then the council, we would staff would evaluate them, right? And we would prevent you with the information. So then you could see sort of what the scopes were for the different firms and then receive a staff recommendation on why they're s suggesting X versus Y firm, right? And so then you would have that context to inform the decision-m because it could be higher or it could be much lower. We don't know. Okay. Thank you for now. Yeah, Council Member Bana. Thank you. I would like to start by saying that I agree
with everything that was said uh by everyone who brought up the item. Um I believe the intentions are great but the language and methodology is not there. It's lacking. For example, council member Himenez talks about new investment, diversify revenue, financial strategy to invest this money to generate more money and extend the life of funds. But then the item reads, "Direct the city manager to engage a consultant to collaborate with the city staff, city council, and community stakeholders to conduct community engagement. And this is the heart of it, gather input on a framework for the expenditure of new general fund revenues generated by the polluter space settlement. Do we just want to gather input? To me the heart should be the framework for the expenditure. We need an economic expert to tell us for example how much of it should go into um items that could save us money like infrastructure upgrade or paying um unfunded liabilities. How much of it should go into investment to generate revenue? Uh what if there is a recession? What would be the impact? Um should we spend money on cleaning contaminations and affordable housing, the homeless? Um I mean economic development would be one component of it and then next to it will have quality of life issues that would require the input from the community. Do the community
uh want to give us advice on how to invest for the future? Is that what we want to do? I mean it's just a big pot of ideas that's stirred together and doesn't make much sense to me. We need an econ an expert who come and tell us for example 70% of the money should go into generating investment and should be very subtle about it. For example, some quality of life investments will increase property taxes which is a sort of bringing more revenue to the city. But how much is it? Is it minimal? Is it large? Or improving parks and things like that. So, I'm proposing to clean the language. I hope the city manager understands what the heart of the issue is and bring the RFP back in a way that is clear about what the expectation is. Because to me if um what we are asking for is a very high level vision to see how much of it should go into generating revenue investment for the future and cost reduction versus quality of life issues where we can get input from the community and the community should not be misled on If we decide that to win from fuel industry, we can only spend 5% of the money on what the community wants. We shouldn't lie to them. We shouldn't start getting input uh with their assumption of $550 million over 10 years. That is not true. We may not be able to afford spending zero dollars on quality of life issues that the community wants.
So first there should be a very high level study about how much can we generate with this? How long can it go? How can we save on the expenses? For example, if you upgrade the infrastructure, it's going to save us a lot of money if we pay unfunded liabilities or this or that. Um and then what it takes um over the 10 years the very general big picture outline and then a little more specific maybe for the uh first two three years. I don't think having said all of that I don't think we should make a decision for a city council like three terms after us. But we should have a very good start, study what needs to be done and move on from there. So my suggestion is to either reward this, eliminate the community engagement and input at this point because we don't want to give any false promises to anyone. uh we want to win from the fuel industry and even $550 million may not be sufficient. We don't know uh what the economic capability of this investment is. So let's be honest with ourselves and with the community not deceive anyone. Let's have a very high level study of what the outline of our approach should be and take it from there. Thank you. Um I think it's time to um extend the meeting. It's almost 10 o'clock.
We can extend it now or we can wait until 10. Well, uh I think we'll be here longer than than six minutes. Okay. So, what are we is there a motion? And then what items do we want to right consider? Okay. Can I can I ask a question on P1? Are we going to that was pulled? Is the person still around that pulled it so they can tell us why they pulled it? I was going to propose that we just um approve P1 and P2. I don't know if we can jump in the middle of this item and do that. I think these were pulled last time. I don't think the person who pulled they were initially on the consent calendar. I was happy with to approve them on consent and I don't think the person who pulled them is here. So if unless there's someone here on on council who wants to have a discussion of P1 and P2, I would recommend that maybe I don't know if we can pause item P3 and P4 and vote on these. We Okay. Well, then what I'm going to suggest is that after between 10 and 11, P1 and P2 are on the agenda. And I'm going to instantly yell out, I'm making a motion to approve these two items. All right. Thank you. Well, well, we still need a motion to extend. Okay. I'll make a motion to extend till 11 until the items are finished. I second. To which one? We finish this current item and then vote on P1 and P2. Okay. Yeah. Which is as late as 11. Hopefully not really till right. Council member Brown. Yes. Council member Bana. Yes. Council member Jimenez. Yes. Council member Wilson. Yes. Council member Zepan. Yes. Vice Mayor Robinson. Yes. And Mayor Martinez. Yes. The vote is unanimous. All right. Back to uh P3 and P3 P4.
and it is uh Vice Mayor Robinson. Okay. So, um I was sitting here listening to uh uh Council Member BA and there's many things that I really agree on what you what you just said. There's things that we need to know and we need to understand um about how exactly to spend the money and and what what we would need to actually move the needle in the directions that we're all talking about, right? We don't really have those answers today, but I do think that what I've been hearing over and over again from people is that they want to play a role in these choices. And so even at the broad level, we even having a process with a consultant that asks the broad question, do we want to spend this money as it comes in or do we want to invest some of the money? you know, do we want it is is our goal with the money to make it last longer? Um, is our goal with the money to to reduce our dependency upon fossil fuels? Even having that set of questions that we ask to all different kinds of community groups, you know, f folks in district one, folks in the projects, folks, you know, in in the hills, folks whatever and actually get their feedback on these large questions so that we have some so we can we have some feel about what community has pallet for, what they have buy in for because I honestly believe that we do actually need to make decisions that will impact councils in the future. Because the biggest thing about getting this amount of money, this you know 50 million a year is that the most impact you make is if you invest it and that takes time. So if we don't think about it now, we lose that time. And the time is the thing that
actually gives us the opportunity to make it more than a half billion dollars. It's time is the factor that would make it more than five billion than than half a billion dollars. And so if we don't take the courage now to get some help to help us frame these questions so we understand what kind of buyin we have so we make deep investments. Then then we're just going to be going like on a on a spending spree and maybe some things will have some long impact, maybe not. Maybe we'll build build things that we won't even have the like municip we won't have the general fund infrastructure to support, you know, maybe we'll build things that we can't even maintain because we didn't think about building a general fund that's more robust that could take care of all the parks that we're building. I feel like we are at in that moment. We're in that moment where we actually do have to be as careful and as as as thoughtful as we can to make decisions for the future for future people who are coming after us. And that's why I think we need a consultant. That's why I think we need to have the community along with us so that everyone said that we bought into this. People said that's what they wanted. You know, we're on this train together. You know, maybe we're building we're building this future ALS system or maybe we're, you know, whatever. But we need to actually be bought in on it because we are at that moment where we're making a a huge we're making a huge just a huge turning point for our city if we do it right. Or we could do it like you know people who win the lottery, go out and buy a bunch of fancy things and then be broke in 10 years. So, I I really would like to um figure out how to move this item where we're taking the boast the the the kind of um a thoughtful way of moving these things forward. I think that there was a lot of
thought put into the kind of categories we had. I'm I I in P3, but I also hear this this desire to make sure that it's nonbiased. I I'm a deep believer in that. Um I'm I think that um what I'd like to pass tonight is something where we create a community process facilitated by uh a consultant who can help us move this forward and get community feedback and ultimately community buy in on a long-term uh direction for the expenditure of these general fund funs. funds so that it actually has a transformative impact in our city. I second that. Um, uh, there's been two council members who haven't spoken yet. And, uh, I don't want this to become a debate where where council members uh, square off and and do one point and then a counterpoint and a counterpoint to that counterpoint. I I I think we need to stay focused uh, so so that we can advance u uh, cohesion and togetherness. So, Council Member Wilson. Okay. No pressure. Okay. In the spirit of cohesion and togetherness, um I think that I guess my main thing is there's a phrase like don't let per like perfect can be the enemy of the good. And I just want to acknowledge that like tonight this c the item in front of us is not for this council to decide how we want the money to be spent. It's for us to decide whether we're willing to invest in a
process to solicit more input from the community on how the money should be spent. That those are different things. And I hear council me what council member Bonn's concerns. I hear I hear uh council member Brown's concerns too. And one of the things I I what I'm thinking about sort of as a way of addressing those which I'm going to I'm I'm going to propose is that we we take um P3 but we modify the RFP so that we ask the whoever is chosen as the consultant to come back and present their plan before they go out and implement it. If I understand the way it's written now, we basically send them out into the world and we say come back in May with your results. And what I'm hearing, you know, from both from people on the on the dis and from the community is that there's real concerns like will they, you know, will they have a process that includes the unhoused? Will they be able to reach people who who communicate in the hong language? Um, elderly people, working people, incarcerated people, uh, etc., etc., etc. Um, I don't think tonight we're going to craft language for this RFP that reassures us that all of those bases will be covered, but I would like to get an RFP out in the world and then ask that whoever gets chosen to come back and present a plan before before they schedule the meetings, before they invite people, before they start marketing. Um, one thing I also, um, I was surprised when council member Brown said that the language is, uh, says to focus, um, particularly on the community groups who are part of the making polluters pay coalition, but she's correct in in the the RFP does not contain that language. If you read the RFP, it's very careful that we're reaching out to individual
people and all community groups, but it's true in the um agenda summary, it does say in particers pay. And I would actually say if we I I don't know if we can change the agenda report as a council action, but I would like to change it to strike that because I agree with you that there all all all individuals and all community groups should be equally treated regardless of whether they you know played a role in putting in because because we're getting input like we're here to get input and I want to hear from everybody. So, so just to sort of like I'm trying also to kind of bring together like I think there was a debate about whether it should be a consultant or the staff member or the staff doing the work. I'm hearing consistently that the staff does not have the expertise to do this particular sort of work nor do they have the capacity. So for me that's a decider that we we do need to hire a consultant. Even though I accept I I appreciate that people are suspicious of hiring more consultants and spending more money on that. I just don't see a way to avoid that given that we don't have staff members who can do this kind of quantitative or qualitative study and they don't have time to do it anyways because they have other jobs. So for me I think that is it it reaches my criteria of what we spend money on consultants for. So I would encourage us to stick with the consultant. Um one of the uh things that was a debate is whether that we should give extra time. I think we should put out the RFP with the expectation that we have something in our hands by May 26 because then it'll actually be in time for us to possibly influence our larger budget conversations which maybe what gets discovered has no impact on our other budget talks but I would still like to keep that door open. So, so I know it's an ambitious timeline and it's totally possible that staff will come back to us and say nobody agreed to that timeline and then we'll revisit it. But I'd like to just try. Um,
and then the third thing that was sort of debated is like, you know, whether these processes are inclusive enough. And like I said, I don't think we're going to I the one amendment I would make to P3 is that we ask the consultant to come back and present their plan before they actually go out and execute it. And that'll give an opportunity for us to all raise our substantial things of like why doesn't this reach a particular community or why doesn't ask a particular question um before it actually happens. So that would be I don't know if I may if I may. So just uh council member Wilson to your your point about the RFP. So the um procurement process would necessitate that um the council would approve the final form of the scope of work in the contract. So you would have that opportunity to see it before you approved uh a contract. Okay. Uh, and I would defer to staff pertaining to the to the timeline. I don't I don't know procedurally if it if if I may add a couple of sentences. So, I do hear a lot of feedback from all the council members and mayor regarding what the the the RFP should contain and what the plan should contain and the timeline and all that. Uh, I'm wondering and also the concern regarding the timeline is very compact and we agree with that especially. So how about like you know we do go uh towards a route you know where the staff comes back in 45 days having you know a proposed language and proposed timeline on the RFQ sort of like you know getting the uh uh feedback on that which is inclusive of the feedback from the council members like to as a first step if I I don't know if it's still my turn, but if we waited 45 days to for the RFP, there's I don't think there's any way we
would have any answers by May 26. I'm just I I know it's rushed, but I would rather have the RFP work done very quickly so that we can get the the consultant on board more quickly than that. Um, can I ask a question? I'm sorry, it's council member Jen's. She hasn't spoken yet. Mayor, if I may, through you as a chair. So, what I would suggest is um we can we can work towards that. As you've heard from finance staff, they're stretched thin. So, I would need to potentially reassign other staff to support this. So, once we have a conversation tomorrow, then I will have to we'll have to rep prioritize other things to to make this the number one sort of organizational priority and that may impact some timelines for other things. So, it's like we're putting we'll we'll add this to the front of the queue and I'll get I'll get back to the council on what does that mean for things that are currently in the queue. Council member Jimenez. Yeah. Well, with that said, I move the item um to direct the city manager to engage a consultant to collaborate with city staff and council and community stakeholders to conduct community engagement and gather input on a framework um of the expenditures of new general funds revenues generated by polluted space settlement uh with the consultant reporting back to the city by May 26, 2026. Can I offer a friendly amendment to that? And that is that I think that we should have the consultant look at not only what we're spending money on, but the strategy of holding and releasing funds. Sure. What strategies are possible? Sure. And I have a point of order
because we're not done debating yet. So, Right. But we can continue debate after motion is made. Then we'll only be debating on the motion. Sorry, we'll only be debating on the motion and on the item. So unless we're closing debate for the full item, there needs to be a second before conversation. So did I second it? You seconded and so I'll second it. I have a question. But my point of order is still there. So if we if we do it that way then we could only debate on the motion that was given and we can no longer debate on the full item that's in front of us. So if we want to end that then we have to call the question to end debate for everything else and then we can only focus on that. I think we have two more questions. I think council member Bana had a question and I had a question and then we can move on to the motion. Um my my first question is about this item is what is the urgency of May 26? Is it going to affect the spending of the budget proposed for the next fiscal year? How is it connected to that? But it's a separate pool of money, isn't it? It's general fund. It's general fund. General funds. General funds. Yes. But we haven't agreed on the amount. So, um, it's an obscure amount of general fund. Well, it's general fund. Uh, for me, it's general fund period. I do agree that it's $50 million of general fund or it's more or less. I I think it needs to be uh counted in totality, you know. I mean you can keep the 50 million in your head and and you know uh speak to that or you can speak to the entire budget but I think the budget
needs to work as a whole. I mean you can't just Thank you. So my second question shall we specify for the RFP RFQ whatever that the main goal is to increase city's revenue from nonfuel industry sources. Is that the main goal or not? This is one of the goals in the RFP. If you read the RSP, one one of the goal is that. Okay. That that's the main goal. Yeah. Okay. And um Okay. I'm not going to argue on that. So that question was to the motion, but question will not be my question. Yeah. So my question is more to the city manager. So you mentioned about a staff member that we need anyways to help us out with future things like this quantifying qualifying things data analytics and and um other things of of that nature. Is that something that we have in the queue for sometime later? HR has a has a queue of positions that we need to upgrade and and modify. Um, but they're also concurrently working through day-to-day operational matters that come up,ou negotiations as well as other meet and confer items. And the reason I'm asking is because again, we're potentially spending couple hundreds of thousands of dollars on this here. Do we shift it to potentially a staff member that we can use for more than just this? We can use them for years and years to come, costing us for the first year roughly about the same amount. But then we have them forever and they're a staff member versus a consultant. So that's one question there. Yeah, I think ultimately based on the council discussion today, it's it's going to be a
combination of things, right? So, I think um I'm I I want to be thoughtful and defer to staff that um that they that this is a extremely heavy lift and that in terms of when we're having community meetings that sometimes, especially on conversations like this, that can be highly charged, right? That sometimes it's good for there to be a third party to help facilitate the conversation. It doesn't mean that staff won't review all of the information and help prepare. Kind of like what you saw this evening with Chief Osario, right? like he started with a consultant that did a report and now we're working interdep departmentally to operationalize it is is what I would say. So that's that might be a good example of how these things could it will be both staff and potentially a third party. And also I I think in the past I I do want to flag for the council we'll absolutely endeavor to meet your timeline and request in terms of the deliverable but sometimes when we put out these aggressive timelines right that may mean we will get fewer respondents right because we don't know what like the experts in this arena what is their current workload like usually if people are really highly skilled they have a backlog of work or they have projects they're working on so we might need to get in the queue and so that's why I was saying Oh, we want to come back to council and give you an update so that you can understand what the market is telling us in terms of availability. So, I I I we're happy to move forward and we'll continue to update the council as we move forward um on what we're finding because there's a lot of unknowns. And was going to say something. Um, I just want to point out that if an RFP is put out not very thoughtfully and if it's not, you know, described in a a thoughtful manner, uh, we
you get like really bad response or little to no response or the the the the bidder may not just be qualified and just maybe fishing for contract. So it's very important for RFP to be very thoughtful and very um accurate reflecting uh the scope and the work that is being done out in the market if we try to reinvent the wheel and the wheel may not be fully round and we may not get a proper driver for that. And then remind me earlier you said by June you can have something. Uh um I was saying like you know by May it's very compact and very uh aggressive. I was saying like about 45 to 60 days beyond that we may but then again it's also dependent upon the the contractor's own timeline which we don't know which is unknown. they might have their own workflow and workload and speed and time that they may require. So Julyish June Julyish based on my very uh want to make sure because we're we're what I'm hearing is staff is very busy so you can't do it. So we want to get a contractor but then you're going to have to hurry up and do something because we need the contractor and you need to do it fast even though you have no time. So, so I'm just trying to make sure that as as we're if we do end up giving you the tool of a contractor that it also becomes a tool you can use and not one that just going to be shoved and then you're still not going to be able to do the right work. It's it's yeah so dependent on depending on the quality of the RFP and then appropriate time for bidding being it open and then appropriate time to basically evaluate all those bids interviewing those vendor those biders and then bring in that you know uh contract to the council
for approval and evaluate uh review the scope of work and the process of the vendor uh discuss being discussed at the council chambers And the agenda report also takes time. RLO takes 20 days. So, you know, all that time, you know, adds to the weeks and number of days and months. And then May 26, it's going to be really u I want to say like, for the lack of better term, halfcooked, if it's even cooked, we definitely don't want raw stuff like that. Absolutely. And then unless it's sushi. Well, unless it's sushi. June, July, then sushi made with old fish though. Gross. So June, July, June, July, we get some really good sushi. May chances are better. You run to the bathroom. Odds are better, okay, if we delay. But again, that's not exact time given that there is unknown. We don't know what the the the contractor's workload and time frame and their process would be. We can't say what that would be. And if we rush them to produce something in a hurry, again, bad sushi. Okay. So then June, Julyish is just to get us the the the the best contractor that we can get based on very rough estimates this moment. Yes. Not necessarily community feedback just yet. This is just the contractor and then from there we have to go out and get community feedback. So when we're saying that we wanted it by May because we want the information for the budget, we're it's that means you're going to have a contractor next week so they can start working in the community meetings to be on time for May. If if I may, there there's always even like so we're we're happy to proceed. I want to reiterate that, right? But there the council always we do quarterly updates for the budget, right? You can always make adjustments to the budget. it it's it's not like uh the fiscal year budget is something that we do and we always talk about how it's an envelope and
it's estimates. So we can make this sync up for fiscal year 2627. Um I think we have to figure out how best to do that but we can do that. Council can always adjust the budget even during a fiscal year. So like that's always there. So there's no necessarily rush for the May time frame. I don't believe so because in the by May we only still have $50 million in the bank. The next 50 doesn't come till the next till July. That's council member Sepa. You keep asking the same question over and over and over. No, that was a different question. But I'm not It was the same question just stated differently. Anyway, we we have a motion. Yeah. Uh do we have a second? I want to make an adjustment to the motion. Another friendly amendment and that is this. Um, I'm actually not exactly sure how we're holding the first $50 million. Can you clarify that really quickly? Yes, we can send an email to city council. You've adopted policies, you know, investment policies and it's in line with what the investment policies are for the city council. So I would be and I think we would be amendable to adding to my motion that we use an appropriate timeline that gives us the right amount of time to have a good RFP and a good process. But I would like to make that in on the condition that the additional funds that are getting contributed from this short-time source goes into an investment fund and is not and is not uh added to the total general fund budget until we complete the process so that we can actually that's what's happening. Yeah. So we can earn some interest. Yes. earn some more money on this money while we're going through this good process and not just having it, you know, not do work for us. Yes, it is currently earning interest. Okay. If if it's like that, I will accept the uh friendly amendment. I
will second that. Call to vote. I'm sorry. Could someone tell what uh what we're voting on now? The final. Yeah. I had a motion by council member Jimenez and a second by council member vice mayor Robinson. So we are what does it say? So can you you make two amendments right? So can you do that? My my two amendments were this. It was it was um uh council member Himenez motion um to move forward with the RFP um community process comprehensive um uh more open and inclusive. The amends amendments that I added were that a part of what they what the consultants would work with would get feedback on from community is not only what types of things would the money like what we'd like to spend the money on, but what strategy for holding and releasing the money we'd like to use because that's two different things, right? Um you there's there's different strategies you can use. You can spend it all every year. You can put it in savings and only spend the the the interest. You can pay off un un you know uh un unovered uh unfunded liabilities. There's strategies and I think we need feedback from community on which strategy they feel strongly about. And second level is what are the kinds of things they would like to see money spent on. That's two different levels of of decision-making. That was the first amendment is to add that strategies conversation to it so that we know we have buyin on what we're doing. And then the second amendment was one I just made just now to say that if we're going to take the time that we need to do to do this right, I would like to make sure that this influx of short-term funds um into the general fund are
put into an investment account so that it is making money for us, making us more money while we go through this good process. So we have more money to work with at the end instead of less instead of the same amount or less. Um, and so that was my my proposal is that the year one and year two money because we won't make that year two deadline go into an investment account and it we use it to make more money while we're going through this process. So but but I would like to have a a a timeline because uh we are saying May 26. So what I am hearing is by July to have the results of to start the process and I think like by that it's just too much to too long to wait to start the community process. So I just would like to I would say we can share the the recommendation or today's approved uh council action with the contractor see like if they whatever and whenever they are selected we will be happy to share the today's action like about the timeline with them and it will really be you know up to them like if they can meet that and produce results by that time or not and uh I I think what would be helpful is at the May 24th I mean excuse me at the March 24th city council meeting which is essentially in in two months um that that we provide an update at that time um because at the more that I'm thinking about this I think that this is um there's a lot of moving parts right so we had the item that you all just approved so that's sort that's one sort of bucket then we have um we already have right our financial adviserss right we also would have potentially bond counsel and then there would also be a facilitator I'm not sure, right? And we this is what we need to think about is is there one firm that does all of these things? Probably not, right? So, I think there will need to be an opportunity for
us as staff to think through like how do we align these things and then like what are the different um thought partners, right, and different consultants that we would work with to develop a full strategy. And I think those might be respectfully um people that have different skill sets, right? Okay. So, what about a question to council? Uh, we made a motion. We had a second and uh if we want to change that motion, we have to do a uh we have to do an uh alternate motion, right? We can't we can't change the motion once it's I am just going to add to I am going to friendly amendment to have the timeline because I don't want to get these forever. So what I am going to add is that by March this staff will come back with an out day where he also had the timeline for how this uh community process is going to roll out. Will that be yes and I think concurrently right we should be able to articulate for example if we the other consultants that would need to be part of this process. So, I think there was a motion. There was a motion and a second, right? And I'd like to make a substitute motion. Okay. She can make a motion, a second, and three friendly amendments. Okay. Yeah. So considering what the city manager is saying about the complexity of the motion the way it is, my motion is to hire a consultant to provide a highlevel vision of different strategy options for spending the money. And after that's done then we can do the based on the result of that we can do the community input gathering
and everything. So for the first step let's just hire a consultant to discuss to provide different strategy options in terms of um economic development uh reading from fuel industry etc. No. Do we have a second? Is that without the community input? It dies. Without the community input, I think it's our responsibility to provide information to the community before asking them for a strategy. Why do we Excuse me. Let me finish. I may get a second. Um, you made a motion and now you're I'm I'm completing uh the meaning of the motion. I think it's very irresponsible. We have a fiducial responsibility, fiscal responsibility to the community. It is irresponsible to ask the community members without much economic knowledge for a strategy options on how to spend $550 million. First we need to provide the information to them what the options are, what the consequences are, then go to them and get the community input. So my motion is to first hire get RFP for a consultant to provide investment and strategy options and then at the second step do the com the community input gathering. Do we have a second? I think that's the motion on the floor. No, it's not. The motion on the floor says um do this plus um getting community input on a strategy. So the consultant will ask the community
for a strategy options. That's incorrect in my view. Mayor some time and energy and very confusing. Okay. Um we're we're having a bit of confusion here. You made a motion and then you spoke to the motion and then you made another motion. No, I No, I made I made the most substitute motion. Okay. Okay. And uh I asked for a second. I have I have not heard one. So the motion dies from lack of a second. Okay. Mayor, point of clarification. I I want to reiterate that that that the funds are currently invested. It so Okay. I just want to make sure that that's And we had we had decided that uh uh earlier. Yeah. Yes. The council had decided that earlier. So So uh so we have a motion and a second on the floor. Did you want to make an a substitute motion or I wanted to ask if I can make a friendly amendment to the motion that's on the floor. Okay. Oh, well, no, you can't because there's a second. Oh, okay. There is. She can make a Yes, she can make a then they have to both accept it. Okay, thank you. I just wanted to um ask if we could lower the maximum amount for the consultant, the fee for the consultant, like not up to 300,000, but to lower it. I think that 300,000 to me is very uh astronomical for a consultant, especially if we're going to have the support of the staff and a lot of community involvement. I think that the consultant is just going to really do the summarization and not a lot. So, uh no because I think what we are hearing from city manager is that potentially it's not just
one but it's just few of them. So I want to have them to have the capacity to to have this up to it's not like we are going to spend it hopefully not but that they don't need to come back to ask for more money in March we can like I think like what what we are trying to do here is this is a really complicating thing and this is why we are in all these conversations together. Um so in March uh with the outdate we can see how much potentially is going to be needed. Uh but I I just want to make sure that we have they the there is enough money so it doesn't constrain the the ability for the staff to think about maybe it's not just one consultant because up to 300,000 is that for multiple consultants because it says one consultant generally um if I may through the mayor as a chair uh our preference for as staff is to not put a dollar amount. So, so then when when we when we come back and and they're ranked, then the council would see like who were the respondents and how much did each of them essentially bid for the work and so and then at that time we would ask for an appropriations. Okay. So you mentioned just a part of this one you mentioned that we may potentially meet need multiple consultants and so if we're saying up to 300,000 for one consultant that means that this could possibly exceed the 300,000 if we need multiple consultants. um if we for example one of the things that I think we need to think about is um a bond measure right it's a and so that is going to be a different procurement process and cost so I think the 300,000 is a good starting point and then when we come back in March we'll
we'll list out like for the different pathways forward for example right like we have our we have a financial consultant we have bond adviserss we have you know community engagement and we'll put together a presentation that outlines all of that. Okay. So, we'll have So, basically back when we come back for the update, we have an opportunity to accept that or to decline it at that moment. Okay. Exactly. Thank you. So, can we have the final version of what we're voting on? Okay. So is uh is d your mic should d the city manager to engage with consultants to collaborate with city staff, city council and community stakeholders to con conduct community engagement and get input uh into an strategy for holding or releasing the funds. And what and uh get input and get in and get input on our framework for the expenditure of the new general fund revenues generated by the polluters pay settlement um and come back with an outdate on the plan and timeline in March what dayth March 24th It says and then while while this process is going on including the community um process that will hold the funds in an investment account so they can be earning more money. That is the motion. Ready. Council member Brown. No. Council member B.
Council, I'm still confused about it. Can Can I quickly ask that? Right. So, what is your vote? He's asking for clarification. I'm confused about the item. I abstain. Abstension. Council member Jimenez. Yes. Council member Wilson. Yes. Council member Zapeda, yes. Vice Mayor Robinson, yes. And Mayor Martinez, yes. The motion passes with Council Member Brown voting no. Council member Ber um ex abstain abstaining. Sorry. Now I would like to make a motion that we combine P1. Can't Yeah. hasn't open. She hasn't opened the item yet. Okay. And we're moving to items P1 and P2. Yeah. Okay. So, I need to ask if there's anyone online that would like to speak on these items to raise their hand. We don't have any in-person speakers, but item P1 is to direct the city clerk to work with the mayor's office to implement a two-year council liaison appointment cycle for boards and commissions aligned with the council election cycle while maintaining the mayor's authority to appoint or remove liaison at their discretion and direct that the current liaison remain in effect through December 31st of 2026 with new appointments to be made in the first quarter of 2027 following Following installation of the new city council, item P2 is to adopt a resolution and approve the issuance of task authorizations to Viola Water on behalf of the city to manage subcontractors
with APB General Engineering VW Housing Questa Engineers for additional sanitary sewer line replacement and rehabilitation work with a contract amendment amount of $4,30,385, thereby increasing the total payment limit to $6,554,348 including ACL aco markups and we do not have any speakers. No speakers. Okay. Can I make a We have one speaker online. Oh, okay. Just raised his hand. Point of order then because then now the speaker is the speaker speaking for one or two because we just read both of them in there. So he'll have one bite at the apple. Well, there's two items. I I don't think the process allows just one bite. I think it's going to be two byes and you got to speak on which item. Call the speaker, please. Kevin Till, please unmute yourself and you may begin. Thank you. Just very briefly, P1 um supporting the additional time. I think there given the number of boards and commissions having an additional time may draw additional um uh participants to those boards. Thank you. Thank you. And that was the last speaker. Can I make a motion to approve item P1 and P2? I second. I second that motion. Council member Brown, yes. Council member Bana, yes. Council member Jimenez, yes. Council member Wilson, yes. Council member Zapeda, yes. Vice Mayor Robinson is absent, and Mayor Martinez, yes. The motion passes. Count Vice Mayor Robinson absent. Are we voting for the second item or is that
good enough for both? We we voted on both of them. Okay. That's it. Okay. Oh, so it's um uh time for adjournment. Um do we have Oh, no. It's a AB No. Okay. Well, well, we still we still need to adjourn. I mean, we can't just leave without adjournment. Sorry, I thought you were going to adjourn. Yes. Oh, I would like to join this meeting in the memory of thousands of people who were killed during protests and demonstrations in Iran brutally. Most of them young people. All they asked was better living condition and a better tomorrow. Okay. In in honor of those people, we adjourn this meeting. The meeting is adjourned.
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