Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

commission. Um, I'm Mark Banch, the county planner, and tonight we do not have our chairman or or vice chairman here. So, I'm going to start out the the meeting by calling the meeting to order and then doing the roll call and then I'll have some further further instructions for you. So we'll start out with Nisley here, Stran here, Schaefer here, Zeltzer here, Mlin here,

Martin and Gertson. Okay, so without a chair and vice chair then we need to elect a chairman prom and that would be just for this meeting and so and need to have like a motion by somebody and then a second to elect somebody as the chairman for for this meeting. I hereby nominate Harley. I'll second any other nominations then. So, so then on that motion then Nley, yes. Strand, yes. Schaefer,

yes. And Seltzer, yes. And then Harley, you abstain on that. So, okay. So, Harley, it's your it's your meeting. And so, then we'd be on number two right now as the as the welcoming. And then after that, the next thing would be the approval of the minutes.

Okay. As chair, acting chairman, I call the meeting to order and and first item on the agenda is approve the minutes from the October 16th meeting. And I trust you've all had a chance to review those minutes prior to this time. We'll entertain a motion for approval or objections. So moved. Second. Second. All in favor or say I I.

Motion is carried. We've approved the minutes. Under due business, we have a an executive session with the county council Patrick Hoffman to discuss the privilege privileged legal matters. So I welcome our guest lecture today. Thank Thank you. Um so first order to for the motion for executive session. Usually what I do is I recommend a motion and ask one of you guys to adopt it. Uh so to meet the executive session requirements, I would ask for a motion for the board to recess new executive session. The subject matter is going to be legal training and advice on conducting a planning commission hearing. And the justification is to discuss matters that are subject to attorney client privilege. and for the motion to include Don Britain and Mark Venoin and to end an executive session at I think 450 probably. I don't think it'll take too long.

Would if somebody would like to say move thank you card. I will second that. [clears throat] I just turned my hearing up so hard up so I could hear a little better. I'll scoot over. Sorry I'm going too soft. So I guess if you is if you guys want to vote on that we can shut off the camera. We can do the roll call. So Nisley, yes. Strand, yes. Schaefer, yes. Seltzer, yes. Mlin, yes. Okay, so the motion passes five to zero.

All right, we're ready for next item. Are we back in charge? Yep. You're back in charge. Exactly. [laughter] Follow decision, I guess. and have on under due business. Uh item B is a discussion of possible actions on setting a public hearing date for a series of proposed text amendments to amend the articles on and on and on and on and on and on.

Yeah, we don't have to read them, but yeah. So, uh last month we had a few changes here. Um I made those changes that you you requested. I don't think it's necessary for me to go over every single article again, but I do want to go over the the one that you had a question on that I tried to fix. I think Steve was the one that was bringing up on the definition. Um, and I apologize cuz on the computer it was highlighted in blue and it's a lot lighter than what it is in your packet, but it's it's toward the back of the the regulations. and it's on page 1513 and also 1514. Um I had one question there and then on the definition. So um on page 1513 under item K and then number two where we're talking about shipping containers in the agricultural district. So, we made some changes last month where if it's used for agricultural purposes, you can put as many on there as you want. Exempt. The discussion was last month we were going to limit it if you were in the a district, but it was for a residential use. This board decided to not regulate it if it's a residential use either. So I struck that from the regulations for the agricultural district. So my question then on number two is okay, if we're not regulating it for a purposes and we're not regulating it for residential purposes, should we or why are we going to regulate it and limit it to two for a commercial or industrial

use? Because for a commercial industrial use, you're going to do a conditional use permit and we can look at that then and say yes, you're permitted to have four shipping containers or six shipping containers. To me, I think Don and I finally got together and reviewed this and you know, upon further discussion, we kind of thought that might be a little unusual to not regulate it for a not regulate it for residential, but now also we're going to regulate it for commercial industrial. So thoughts? I agree with you. I mean, you're not going to limit it for egg. Why are you going to limit it for commercial or industrial areas?

Because that's going to be a conditional use permit. So if somebody came and said, "Well, I'm going to run this commercial or industrial business. I'm plan on having 15 shipping containers on there." Okay. show them on the site plan and you know it could be a 40 acre parcel and we're going to say oh well you're only allowed two but if you want more than two now you got to go and and uh have that conditional use permit say you know review it again so I just I think that was missed you know and in amongst our discussion and after review I think we decided is it necessary just take it back to this board and see what your thoughts are

I'm finding the blue sometimes are really difficult to read. Yeah, I'm sorry. It it it says that more than two shipping containers or interotal freight containers for a commercial, industrial or other nonresidential land use may be permitted in conjunction with an approved conditional use. So, so what we're saying is essentially if you're doing a commercial or industrial land use, you're limited to two egg, but we could approve you to have more than two with your conditional use permit. Whereas, if you're residential zone, I could have 10 of them on there

without a condition without a conditional use permit. So, so if you're if you're an existing commercial use, you're being limited to two or if you're a new use, you have to also include that I'm planning on having 10 shipping containers on my commercial property now. So, should that be regulated through that process or we should just say no because they got to do a conditional use permit anyway. So, they can sit there and show us or have 10 shipping containers. Well,

I think Don and I our opinion is that if we're not regulating a residential use in the A district, then we don't need to regulate the commercial or industrial either. That makes sense. And you know, if you if it's going to be part of the commercial conditional use permit on new business anyway, then we have the opportunity at that point to talk about placement and limitations or whatever. Exactly. You would think you would regulate uh residential use of those more than you would commercial. This is flipped. What's the minimum size for a commercial industrial lot or minimum size? There's parcel size.

Yeah, there's none. You can do a commercial or industrial land use on any parcel. So it could be quarter of an acre up to 100 acres. It's just that conditional use permit. So we we don't say that, oh well, you've only got a quarter of acre land, so commercial land uses are prohibited on your property. It still has to go through the conditional use permit. So you might be hardressed to have a pretty intense commercial land use on a quarter acre residential subdivision lot, for example.

Well, that's what I was trying to get in my head. a small commercial parcel [clears throat] if they just wanted to stack that thing solid with containers. Is that something we're going to be happy with? Well, the way it's written now, they would have to have that as a part of their conditional use permit, right? So then we can decide the appropriateness of stacking 752 containers five high on a quarter acre/acre lot. There you go. They have to get a conditional use permit and you have to prove it.

Yeah. Yeah. I think that's the way to go and I think that matches the spirit of our regulations where [clears throat] we regulate commercial and industrial uses through the conditional use permit process. you at that time would decide the appropriateness of 20 shipping containers on a halfacre lot in a residential subdivision versus a halfacre lot not within a residential subdivision. Right. So that's just completely subjective at that point.

Yeah. Like a lot of our conditional use permits. to me it's anything is potentially an approval conditional use permit on any parcel subject to your review and approval through that conditional use permit process. So at the present time you're recommending on page uh 15-13 that all that language stay in there both the yellow and the blue. Uh no we would recommend striking the blue. Okay. Okay. That was my interpretation when I read this at home. Yeah. And

yeah, I wish I had a different color. I apologize. I say it looks a lot different on the computer than it does in when you print it. So, I apologize for that. But yeah, and since that's how I read it at home and liked it at home, I still like it. Richard, do you think it's it proper then just to stay silent on the fact there's no limitation for industrial commercial use?

Would you prefer like some wording in there that says there's no like what's the what's the problem with it as it's written? It says it limits you to two. you're limiting well unless but well or you've got to get a conditional use permit to exceed right more of them can be approved with a conditional use permit so I think the problem with that language we're limiting two there but we're not limiting two in residential and residential it's unlimited it's unlimited so so you're saying we need to Well that sounds like maybe a problem with uh residential regulation

well it's a it's a parcel that is zoned agricultural but used for res. So this would be more like an agricultural lot split parcel. Right? So in other words, we're not limited in them in agriculture but we are in commercial. Is so why? Because you can determine what's right or wrong with the use conditional use permit. But just generally speaking, we regulate commercial and industrial uses differently than we do a or residential. We're more ownorous because you have to go through a conditional use permit process. Regulate the commercial industrial if it's a new business. Right. Right. If an existing business wants to come in and

Yeah. If it's existing, there's nothing we can do about it. But we can with that language in there. They can only put two in. Correct. Right. Right. Because if we struck that, then there's nothing stopping an existing business from stacking 100. Right. Correct. Because I think realistically the chances of a business stacking a dozen or more is higher than a residence. I mean the there might be a a homeowner that lives on an egg parcel that has a hoarding issue for shipping containers, but that'd be a very esoteric problem. You're big and they're not big on

Yeah. It's it's a lot harder than collecting I mean even collecting cars which I guess we have had. No. Yeah. But realistically, I don't see the chances of that happening.

So, an existing commercial operation would be limited to two unless they want to come back here. Unless and then we would force them to come back. Maybe not necessarily to expand their business operation, but but coming back to this board for the sole purpose of saying, "Hey, I need some more storage. I want to expand now to to four shipping containers instead of two." What's it going to cost somebody to do that financially? What's What's your Well, it's a $300 application, but more importantly, it's like a threemonth timeline. Yeah. Well, I understand the timeline. Yeah, that's that's the thing more than anything. 300 bucks for the application plus that's plus take another 3 months or so to get approved. Yeah.

Only for the shipping. I'm not expanding employee. I'm not expanding operations. I need more more storage outside storage. I want to bring these two additional containers in. So now I got to go through a three-month process to do just that. And I mean is that the type of case that you would want to potentially hear? Well, would we want a scenario where somebody builds [clears throat] a fence of shipping containers around their lot and there's nothing we can do about it? Right. That's Well, isn't there something you can do about it through the conditional use permit? Yeah. I mean, if it's a if it's a if it's a new land use

if it's a new land use existing business. If it's an existing business, then expansion of an existing business. No, that's that's there's there's your scenario if it's and and that people probably aren't going to build a fence out of a shipping container, but you you know, if you have an existing business and you have 30,000 square feet, the idea of buying 10 of these and parking them next to someone's house. I mean, that's that's I could see that reasonably happening. You got to increase it from two to four or something like that. Should both of them for res for agricultural residential and this been written? Well, that's what I was wondering.

Whichever way it is, what our appetite for restricting egg to the whatever we decide on two or four or whatever, at least be consistent for a well, but egg's treated differently for a partial zone egg but uses residential purposes. That would be Now we get about for Right. So you're talking about residential purposes on an egg lot. Yeah. Right.

Because the I the idea last month as I recall was, you know, I have 40 80 acres and I'm going to use these shipping containers for residential purposes, not as part of my agricultural operation. So now I can only have two. And I believe I thought the board was saying that well 40 acres you know we don't care essentially at that point in time but you got to remember there's a lot of agricultural lot split parcels out there that are right now 7 acre maximum at that time that are just for residential purposes. So they can now have unlimited amount of shipping containers out there.

Maybe you need to figure out a certain amount and anything above that takes a conditional use permit, but I don't know. I mean, you're going back to kind of the way we were with with, you know, storage buildings. [snorts] Yeah. What's what's the what's the square footage amount to start with? And then we found out, well, gee, you know, that was too small because we have too many applications and we're rubber stamping them. So, let's increase that. So, we could kind of look at that approach. I mean that's you know starting out with a reasonable limit and then say okay you know year or two down the road we'll look at it again see if you know how many applications we're getting for more of these things

if it warrants it and depending on the circumstances of those applications and what we've done always adjust it we can always adjust it like you said with square footage of buildings we were getting overrun with that and if we see an issue. No, it's a little more work. You got to go through the text amendment and all, but that's Yeah, it's doable. It's doable. It's not big deal. H Have you had a lot of inquiries about people wanting more than two shipping containers? No, that's it. I don't know if they're just being put out there without permits illegally with more than two,

but there are there are people out there are parcels out there with more than two. I'll tell you that right now. Yeah, there are. I can

I can't even begin to try to summarize where I think we are on this thing right now. You like [snorts] maybe what Steve said. Start out with a small number and if we're someday in the future it has to be increased. We can do that [snorts] [laughter] rather than starting out with a something that builds. What if we'd start out with four, increase that number to four and put it on both? I think it would be more consistent to say to have a number on the commercial and industrial and the residential instead of just the one.

That's just a suggestion. I could live with four. I think that's reasonable. Well, we don't have any heartburn if somebody wants to put up four ugly sheds as long as they're under our square foot total, right? But apparent we don't regulate. We don't regulate. We don't have building codes. Well, then what's the difference in square foot of shipping containers versus square foot of stick built sheds or

whatever. To me, it would be the industrial look. something, you know, you have sheds that are typically constructed out of metal wood, you know, wood. It looks like a residential thing. When you have a shipping container, that's more of an industrial look. And some people may not want to look like they're living in an industrial park if there's a bunch of shipping containers on their adjacent properties.

That's why we used to use railroad box cars or or, you know, semi trailers. Mhm. Shipping containers are the new new thing now. So I can increase it to four and add back in the residential if you want. What do we say about semi-trailers?

That's the same thing. That's that's your interotal freight. You're talking about like a conventional like 53 ft van trailer. It'd be the same thing as this inter modal. That's why we added semi-tra. That's why we added Well, an inter modal is one you can put on a train, is it? Is that where the inter Well, what [clears throat] we're talking about is we're just talking about a conventional semi-trail. Yeah. With the with the wheels on that that probably still be lumped in with all all that. Yeah. So, it has a tag on it. Is it regulated at all then? If it has a tag. Yeah. Yeah. Tag is personal property, right? So then if you wanted storage, you could just

put a buy might pay for a tag every year. Yeah. Well, you could get one of those semi-permanent ones from Maine or Montana or something. There you go. Then you could have 50 of them and there vehicles, so they're personal property, so they're not regulated, right? Yeah. But I think there's a rule that, you know, Kansas requires your vehicles to be registered in Kansas if you're a Kansas resident. That's not a job for the planning commission, though. No, [laughter] [clears throat] somebody want to make a decision or wait till everybody's here. Oh, that's just a decision. I think four but four

on equal on both on both uses. Anything above four takes a conditional use permit. So it should say more than four for more than four for commercial industrial requires the conditional use per same thing for residential.

Treat them both the same. And if we start getting inundated in cases then we can revisit it. Perfect. But four is enough that a typical someone with, you know, 10 15 acres, they want a couple for their boat and for their camper. They're not going to have to come before the board. Okay. I'll I'll add that language. We will have back reviewing it at our next meeting anyway.

Yes. Okay, while we're on that subject and we're thinking about then over on 1516, it refers to the residential parcels. So, no changes there. We're still going to leave it at one. Uh, is it one? No, it's Yeah. purposes. One storage unit R1, R2. [clears throat]

I need to probably change that to number two to I think I missed a storage building. I need to make that shipping container. Oh, yeah. Right, Steve? Yeah, I see what you're saying. I missed that. I'll make that change. So, okay. a residential use parcel zone a you're allowed to have four. Now we're talking about residential parcels zoned residential. Are you going to have the three? You got the same issue. I think you're talking about storage building.

Oh, I thought I switched that. Okay. Yep. Thank you. So in purely residential right now it's one and only in the R1 and R2. [clears throat] All right. Are we good with that then or are you still thinking?

Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. So everybody if we want to go back to page 1514 then the other discussion we had last month was on what is the the definition of like a permanent accessory building. And so what Don and I came up with was a permanent accessory building is defined as a four or more sighted building attached or anchored to a concrete slab. concrete stem wall or concrete basement. Buildings attached or anchored by any other means not described above shall not be considered as uh a permanent permanent accessory building. Does that hopefully close any kind of loopholes and what we're talking about is when we're saying that

an ADU has to be permanently attached to the ground. Yeah. Well, that's solve that for now until we have to make a make an adjustment. So, I included that definition in both sections on page 151 17 as well. Yeah.

Okay. that I I think that was all the major changes that I had was mainly just the definition and then what we caught there on the on the shipping container. So I guess at [clears throat] this point it's your decision if you want to look at it again or do you want to accept this draft with subject to that one change that we discussed on the shipping containers and set a public hearing date. Now, with the way the publication is and the notification to the townships and the cities, uh, unfortunately, we wouldn't be able to have this probably in December, but we can certainly have it in January. And while we haven't set our January or next year dates yet, uh, looking at it, if we keep the same 3 Thursday, it would be January 15th, we could have a public hearing on these text amendments. We can do that. I' I'd like to hear hear your what you have down as the change and then I would be comfortable assuming that that's okay with what then I'd be comfortable considering that's our final and you would still obviously at the public hearing have an opportunity to make an additional change with that. So going back to page 1513, number two, it's going to say more than four shipping containers, interotal freight containers for a commercial, industrial or other nonresidential land use may be permitted in conjunction with an approved conditional use permit.

So that would be for an existing build business or for a new business and then went from two to four. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

And then I don't have the language. I just be paraphrasing but the same type of language guar would would say that uh more than four shipping container interotal containers for a residential land use may be permitted um is more than four may be permitted in conjunction with an approved conditional use permit. So, so same language but for residential uses more than four is a conditional use permit in the egg district. So, I can permit four shipping containers on a parcel zoned agricultural used as residential. If somebody has an inkling to have six, then it's a conditional use permit. mean so the language will state be similar to what's right there. It'll be for residential land uses.

Okay. So, if if this board's happy with it, you can do like we did last time, you could do two separate motions. If you wanted to just accept the draft as is and then a separate motion to set a public hearing date or you can, you know, accept this draft with that one change and set a public hearing date. I would say set the public hearing date for January 15, 2026, 4:30 p.m. at the Reno County Public Works Department, 600 Scott Boulevard. Want to do that. Like I say, December would be um too too tight to be able to meet publication and get notices, get this on the website, all that that has to happen. So, is there a a motion to do what Marcus said and that accept it with that one one change?

That one change. Well, there's two or three changes. What was the other ones? And then the wording changes where you had storage building, which should be shipping containers, whatever. Oh, the Oh, the wordsing changes. Oh, oh, the the little word smith. Yeah. Five. Gotcha. Yeah. Subject to those chain. Yeah, you're right. Okay. I would move one. Yeah. I would, Mr. Chairman, I would move that we accept subject to the changes discussed uh at this meeting the uh proposed drafts of uh these text amendments, but I'm not going to read all the articles. Mark can put that in.

Is there a second? Second. been moved and seconded that we approve the the draft as submitted with certain modifications. Um, [clears throat] roll call. Roll call. Nisley, yes. Strand, yes. Schaefer, yes. Seltzer, yes. And Mlin, yes.

Furthermore, Mr. Chairman, and I would propose that we held the hearing on these text amendments to be held January 15th at 4:30 p.m. in the public works building at whatever the address is. 600 Scott Boulevard and South Hutchinson. Yes, as noted. Second move and seconded to set the date for the public hearing on these teams. Nisley, yes. Strand, yes. Schaefer, yes. Seltzer, yes. And Mlin, yes. Okay,

we'll do that. We'll have that public hearing in January then. That'll that'll teach Russ a meeting. That's right. He doesn't like it. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

Okay. We're ready for letter C, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. discussion of the dates and times for the May 2026 through June 2026 planning commission meetings.

So, vacation or what?

Yeah, I wish. Um, so as you know, next month we need to approve the dates for next year's meeting. We've already said that we're going to have a meeting on January 15th. Looking ahead um at these dates, I have a conflict in May of 2026. If we keep the third Thursday, I have to be in Lawrence for a flood plane meeting since I'm on the state board for that. So, in preparation of the dates for next next year, the question to this board is, do we want to go later in the day on that date or do you want to go the following Thursday or do you want to go earlier in the week? Uh, if we go earlier that week, it'd have to be a Monday or Tuesday because I'm probably going to leave in the late afternoon on Wednesday to get up there. and Friday public works is is closed. We can't do it on Friday. Um if you want to keep the same date, and I don't have the date right off hand, um

21st. 21st. Yeah. Um I would think I would be back in town by 6:00 p.m. So we can go later. I don't obviously I don't know how I think that would not be a good setup. Is there a problem? And we moved it back a week like the 14th. We could move it back a week. I don't believe I have any conflicts with that. Well, do do you have to like is there a public notice that has to be given or something or we can just change the date of our meeting to whatever we want?

Well, next month we're going to adopt the dates for next year. And so that's that's why I'm kind of asking now if you know we if we did change a date during the year, yeah, we would send notice out to everybody. So what you're really saying is that we don't have to finalize that. We just [clears throat] need to be aware of it so that next month when we set the dates for the following year, I would like to be able to give you an accurate reflection of the dates for next year. So you're wanting to change the calendar. So next month you can bring us an accurate calendar. Yes.

So we want to move it to we can move it to the 14th or the 28th. Either way you want to move it up. Yeah. Just a week before or the week after. And

along that same lines briefly, I've always wanted to ask the board but haven't is June is obviously you know harvest time for you know our farmers. I don't know how much that affects this board. I know Allan and I think Russ as well. I apologize if if I missed anybody. Is there an appetite to move that date or time to like the end of the month as well? Because I'd like to have and I've never had an issue with people missing from the board necessarily, but I just wanted to offer you that courtesy if it would work better to move it to the fourth. So this is all assuming we're going to leave. See third Thursday is our third Thursday is always that it seems like it's it could be in the middle of harvest. You know, it could rain that day and then you would be

say whichever way we change it'll Yeah. weather thought if you do it later usually it's over by then. But if it's not an issue for this board, then we don't have to worry about it. I don't remember it being an issue. It never has been. We've all survived so far. Maybe there's maybe we should stick with one person that didn't come to a meeting. Neither are it's not the end of the world. Thirsty earlier or thirsty later. Two people out here. Okay. Yeah, that's fine. I just wanted to offer that out to the board and stuff. I don't I'll make an exception in May for you, Mark. Well, I appreciate But yeah, but otherwise I we don't want I don't want to start a meeting at 6:00. Okay. Well, I don't particularly want to drive back from Lawrence late and and then go over,

you know, I would anticipate, you know, us getting done by 1:00 1:15, you know, and it's a 4 hour drive back. So, I could be rolling in at 4:30 or 5:00. And so I Yeah, let's let's stick with Thursdays. Okay. And it'd either be a week earlier or a week later. And uh as you develop the calendar seem to be like you will see something day that either Thursday would be fine with me whatever it works for your calendar because you're the ones that need to be here. When is we need to set the date now. Is that what you're saying? Preferably then I can give everybody an accurate calendar. Second or the 29th. The 14th.

Not the 22nd. Not the 22. I don't have I don't have the holiday. I don't have it on my calendar for next year. I don't Well, the 28th is uh getting close to Memorial Day. Looks like after Yeah, it's after after Memorial Day.

It wasn't a problem this year because the meeting was in Witchah and now we're heading to Lawrence next year. So, now it's now it's an issue. So, I didn't bring this up to the board last year. Well, the 18th would work for me. I don't know about anybody else. 18th. Yeah, that's Oh, no. That's the day we're trying to avoid. 21st is the day we're trying to avoid, isn't it? Oh, I'm looking at the wrong month. My bad. Do we have to set it now? I guess I'm Well, you want to set it next? Well, I'd like to be able to set it. If we have to change it, we can change it later as Yeah. You know, but I would you 14th or Yeah, the 14th. still works for me. Yeah, 14th. Yeah, let's just do the 14th.

I mean, if something comes up and we need to change, that's always obviously an option, but it'd be nice to have a a set calendar out there because we have a resolution that the chairman signs and then we put that out on the website, then everybody knows what the the deadline dates are. And um so so you'd rather do May 14th? It works for me. I'll see what happens. Yeah. You're retired. Geez. I know. I have a lot of freedom. Yeah, I can be gone on the g. Yeah. And as we go along and as your calendars fill up, if it becomes an issue, let us know and we can just pass another,

you know, resolution modifying that date to another time and and who knows if I if I don't have anything any public hearing schedule, then I could actually cancel it if we wanted to. So, okay. I appreciate that. So, all right. [clears throat] We're all in agreement that May will be the 14th for a starting point for you. Yes, we'll do that. You also have a need for change in June. Also,

we're not going to change June. It sounds like we're just going to leave it the same, which is perfectly fine with me. So then okay since the state will prepare the document that we would be approving at our next meeting next month. Yes. Yeah. We'll do that in December. we'll have that uh prepared and if something comes up between now and then we can even modify it by then and so appreciate it. We'll we'll get that going.

What else do you have on the agenda for next month? Nothing. Yeah. So, under letter D with the next thing we have is our training. So, I don't have anything scheduled other than our our annual review of the comp plan and the regulations that we're required to do by statute and adoption of the dates for next year's planning commission meeting. So, those three things are the ones that are on the agenda. So if you want, we could postpone this train till we have a full board or we can go through it now. Whatever you would like to do on that end. I kind of remember Russ bringing this topic up. So

yeah, fact that he's not here. Really want to make Russ and Jack suffer through this. What you say? Yeah. That it's pleasure of the board. I can I've got probably 30 slides. Uh you know it might might take 30 40 minutes. I think we 30 minutes. My opinion is we should postpone it until all members are here. Do we need a motion for that? Sure. While we Okay. I move that we table the subdivision training until our December meeting.

Moved. Second. moved and seconded that we postpone our substantion regulation training till a later date. All in favor say I. I. I. Okay, that's fine. We can certainly do that. on your list here, Mark, that you gave us strategic planning ideas.

Yeah. And the ones that we have knocked out basically as of tonight would be the ADUs shipping containers. EU shipping containers. That list also includes a little bit with the manufactured homes and then the the cell towers. Yes. So those I believe it was Russ that asked for it was a unit that asked for that copy again. Somebody asked for that again. So those are those four things you say in progress. Those are the ones we're going to have on the

Soon as we get that done, then we can change that that status. So and that was I think that was going to be as a suggestion of what's our next topics of concern. Um, I say I added a few on here uh lately, you know, on public roads, platting requirements, especially for agricultural land. And then just doing a general review of the definitions. I think Harley brought that up last month on that one one topic that maybe needed to be adjusted a little bit. I would keep that with you. That'll probably come up in in future discussions and stuff. So, [snorts] but under under other business, I don't have anything else to bring before the board. If anybody else has any any questions.

Okay. What uh what are you saying we're going to try to address next? That's going to be up to board to decide. Yeah. I mean, I I have a list. I mean, there's home occupations is always a topic that probably needs to be addressed. I I think it's we're addressing the one right now, the biggest one right now is ADUs, you know, I think. So, we're going to hopefully get that taken care of here in the next couple of months. Um, I think we need to have a discussion again on public roads and do we want to create public roads and subdivisions or do we want to go a different route?

I was thinking that might partner up with this training be a good time to address that while Exactly. We got that in our heads. Yes. This packet of stuff and Yes. And then the the packet of stuff that uh was on your table is the changes that we made from the last set of text amendments regarding the update. Yeah, that's the update. That needs to go in our

So that needs to go in your books. So yeah, I pro I forgot to give that to you. I had it done last month, but I forgot to set it out for the board. So yeah, what you have there are the official changes from the text amendments that were approved. uh the 7 acre thing, the egg lot split, and all those other ones. Okay. Those have all been through the public hearing process. Yes. Yeah.

Y all been through. County commissioners approved it. It was on the consent agenda. There was no discussion. I understand from Dawn that they liked it. So there was no no discussion by them or by me on that. And the other documents you have here for

the other documents go ahead and keep I didn't mail you but that would be in association with the training and I can explain further next month. You can either leave it on the table if you want or you can take it with you and bring it back. I was going to just expand on that a little bit uh during our training session. So, I'll probably just leave it here, rather than Okay, that's fine. To bring it back.

You leave it here or you can take it with you. A lot of that stuff the board doesn't get to see. It's it's after we approve a subdivision. So, that's what we were going to kind of more information. You can see what goes on after the board approves of a subdivision plat just for information, but we can expand on that next month or whatever. So there.

So what's next, Harley? Any other business? Are there is there any other business to be brought before the board on the behalf of the commissioners? I move wejourn. Been moved for adjournment. Second. Oh sh. I thought I was going to die for like a second. Well, we could elect Harley chairman for life. All in favor by I need a I voice vote. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.