City Council - Regular Meeting

Two years, we do a call for proposals through a 17 city human services funding collaborative. So we issue an RFP. It's like the joint application for college applications. One application, one timeline, one set of requirements. And that application period was open from March 2 to April 6.

And after April 6, we looked at all of the applications that came into the city of Redmond. We received 149 requests totaling over $8,000,000 a year. And we have about $3,400,000 per year available based on the proposed budget that's based on long standing per capita formula. So this $3,400,000 per year also includes about $40,000 in community development block grants, grant one, and $300,000 in opiate settlement funds that have special requirements that we will figure out which programs qualify to use those funds. Other cities also received more applications and a significant increase in request for funding system wide.

We got four forty six total applications totaling $83,187,692 That's a lot of money. The Human Services Commission will be spending the next five months reviewing all of the 140, all of the, applications that we've received based on the city's funding priorities. And these priorities are included in attachment A of your packet. As in previous cycles, we'll be undergoing participating in a joint equity training with three other East Side cities on March, not March, May 12. And this will really help them guide their review process and decision makings in terms of how they bring their funding recommendations to you, which they will present on October 27.

Awesome. Thank you so much. Do we have any questions from Council? Council President Stewart.

Yeah. Thank you so much. Well, for our colleagues who haven't experienced this before, it is always a bit overwhelming to hear the number of applications received and the requests for investment, and that we will, in fact, not be able to meet all of them, and that is that is just one of the harder parts of this part of the process. I just wanna remind the council that in the last biennium, other money was set aside for stability in disruption to the sector and and housing would occur, and that has certainly occurred. Council did spend some portion of that in November, but that conversation will will come back, and we can speak with the fact chair about when that might work best on the work plan to bring that back.

So just wanted to acknowledge that. For anyone in the room who's feeling like, ah, there's a big gap here. Additionally, I have a question regarding the Commission's work, and as they're going through these recommendations, how are they balancing working on evaluating these current requests under our existing Human Services strategic plan, while also participating in a process to help us create a Housing and Human Services strategic plan. Could you tell us a little bit about how that looks for them? Yeah,

so they're basing the funding priorities are based on the human services strategic plan, and a big part of that is the housing part of it as well. And they really need to weigh all of those things. And any of the decisions that they make are really difficult. For example, do we try to address the crisis of people who are losing their housing or and or do we try to catch them upstream so that they never get to that point? These are things that they will be struggling with.

And they'll be meeting twice a month. I think in June they're meeting three times a month to evaluate and have these discussions. So it's really, it's a lot of work and a lot of really good robust conversation. And I think we're really fortunate to have a very diverse Human Services Commission. You'll see a couple of them again tonight that really bring all sorts of different experiences and backgrounds into the conversation so that we can try to make the best decisions or they can try to make the decisions, as possible for the city.

Thank you so much. And for any of our commissioners who are watching, thank you so much for the work that you're taking on this cycle.

Any other questions from council? I see council member Sony.

Thank you so much. I'm asking a question with, you know, bringing it to a kind of a different, perspective here. Usually, you know how the commissions will be making decisions because our city value is improving access and addressing barriers to service. And we as a city want to ensure that the agencies that are applying are adhering to the values and to the commitments and to our priorities. What we have seen, it's like in a lot of time when these grants are available, there will be bigger organizations that has a higher financial stability.

That takes a major portion. And however, they could be other smaller nonprofit or a newer organizations, which also deserve, you know, chance to prove their or do their work or those who have been specialized in their out reach, how do we balance that just to ensure that the winner does not takes away all the funding and we are able to do justice with every organization involved here?

That's exactly what they struggle with throughout the entire process. I think last cycle there was really a push to try to bring in new organizations, grassroots organizations that may not have the capacity or the experience necessarily as some of the bigger long standing organizations. At the same time, we also need some of those services that the larger organizations provide because they're the only ones that provide that to our residents. So it really is a balancing act. We do work very closely with particularly the small newer organizations to make sure that they understand what they're getting into before they even apply.

We had, I think we had four information sessions last fall and again in the spring. And I think I met with about 21 or 22 individual organizations to talk up through the process and how they might proceed with the application. And some of them decided not to, that they weren't ready. And we also just make sure that we work really closely with the new organizations to make sure that they're not, that they are spending the money wisely because that's you know we have to be good stewards of the tax dollars and that they are providing their services as they say they will. But that's exactly the struggle, that the commission goes through every two years.

So thank you for reminding us of that.

Do we have any other questions from counsel? If not, I'll I'll go ahead and ask ask one of my own. And first of all, thank you so much, Alaric, Brooke, Deputy Director Allen, everyone. I I've seen firsthand the the amount of work that you put into this process, especially especially during the budget year. Thank you for your work.

Are there still conversations being had on the Human Services Commission about establishing a baseline floor for some of the major housing organizations, funding for some of the major housing organizations to provide them with stability. This this also kind of piggybacks onto Councilmember Soni's question about, you know, ensuring that there's diversity amongst the organizations that we fund because it is a lot easier for a big organization to come up with a more polished application. Or they're a bigger name. Folks are more immediately aware of the work that they're doing. So they might they might get priority for funding. So I was just wondering if that conversation was still being had on the Human Services Commission, if if so, if there was any any resolution.

All right. So is the main question was specifically around housing providers?

Yeah. And I remember during my time on the commission, I think we were debating about a 30% floor of the funding for, like, setting it aside just specifically for organizations providing, you know, shelter support for housing. I was wondering if that was still in place.

Yes. So that is a conversation, and Brooke and Alarq have been actively in those conversations. But back also to one of the prior council members, is that we know that housing stability is one of the most important priorities. And so it has been a practice to set aside and make sure that a certain amount of funding is spent on that priority. And so the commission will have an opportunity to see those, but we are going to be keeping a dedication of dollars so that we are keeping, let's say, the lights on for particularly our shelter and major providers so that they can have consistent funding. So that would be like Porchlight, Sofia Way, and making sure that they are able to kind of maintain their service levels and keeping people safe. Does that help answer your question?

Yeah, thank you. Perfect.

I just want to add too, because it came in it's also a balance of you also could have housing stability could take all of the pie, right, with the amount of need that we have there. And so really appreciate the Commission's work to also identify some of the, other priorities and weigh those as well.

Perfect. Thank you. Any other questions from counsel? I do not see any. So, you again for the presentation. We're going to be moving on to items from other committees. And the first item is a quasi judicial matter, the adoption of, ordinances for Belcaro Platt, presented by Josh Mueller of the Planning Department.

Thank you. Good afternoon, Council. My name is Josh Mueller with the Development Engineering Group. I'm here today to introduce the Belcaro subdivision and request next steps in the final long plat approval process. Belcaro is a proposed 24 lot single family subdivision located in Willow's Rosehill neighborhood, fronting 134th Avenue Northeast.

The final plat would subdivide five existing parcels that are totaling 4.4 acres. The proposal includes a public street dedication, one affordable housing lot, four small dwelling unit lots, three tracks for open space, access, utilities and on-site storm water management. The project also meets the city's tree retention requirements. The preliminary plat was approved with conditions by the hearing examiner on 02/27/2024. Following a public hearing and an open comment period, no requests for reconsideration were submitted.

Civil engineering plans were completed and approved by the city on 12/11/2025, and the applicant submitted the final plat for staff review that same month. The applicant has provided required financial guarantees for all of the improvements, and the affordable housing agreement was recorded earlier this month. City staff has reviewed the final plat and verified that it satisfies all conditions of the hearing examiner's decision and complies with RCW requirements and the Redmond zoning code. Under Redmond zoning code 21 dot 74 dot zero three zero dot g dot four, the city council is to review and approve the final plat at a public meeting. Upon approval of an ordinance, the mayor is then authorized to sign the face of the final plat for recording with King County.

City staff recommend placing an ordinance approving the final plat on the consent agenda for the council's business meeting on May 19. The agenda tonight says May 5, but there was if you look at the memo, there's a, that spot's being held if there's an additional business meeting needed for May 5. Staff have recommend placing this item on the May 19 consent agenda. So with that, I'm happy to answer any questions or provide any additional information. Thank you.

Thank you so much, Josh. Any questions from my colleagues? City Council President Stewart.

Sure. I just want to it is in the document, the decision from the hearing examiner. It's bullet point 21. Just want to state for the record that it does look like this will all be connected to city water and sewer, and the development will be making some improvements to the sewer along the way. If we could hear a little bit about those, that would be helpful.

Yeah, the civil permits have already been issued and they're already in, I think I looked today, the storm water facility, there's on-site storm water facilities, those are already being inspected by city staff as we speak.

And if you could just describe at a very high level, the hearing examiner made this decision in February 2024, and then the engineering plans weren't approved until just a couple of months ago in December. Were we waiting for the developers to come back? Was there hang up on our side? Little bit of both. Just really high level. If we could get a sense of that, that'd be helpful.

It was going the civil the CCR process was going on after that hearing examiners and so it did take time. Fire review, all the utility, different utility interviews. I'd have to look back and see how many reviews it had, but it probably had some reviews until it was finally approved. Then they have to get post bonding, everything that's required through the CCR process.

I see, okay. Well, council, I know that this year, in our budget, we have funded the the development services study, and we are looking at process improvement. When that comes back to the council, this might be an example for us to just hold in place. We do wanna make sure the city is able to do due diligence. That is without question, but this is a long lengthy process. If if housing is an urgent matter, this is a bit of a concern for me. So just wanna hold all of those truths all at once, and know that the team did great work, and I'm I'm happy to see this move forward and to see these homes come online.

Guess I'll council member Sony next, if you still have a question.

Actually, my question was pretty much covered by Council President Stewart, but just, you know, was more for the storm water tracks. Tracks. So is the maintenance of that will be city's responsibility or the HOA's?

The city yes will have maintenance obligations on the storm water facility. So they have access rights to that track. That storm water track will also serve a neighboring, the developer has a neighboring project to the west, think that one's called Huxley that will also tie into that as well.

And just one, sorry, one more. It's a quick one. What's the start date of the construction?

It's the permits have already been issued and they're working on the site right now for a lot of the utilities. Just like I said, I just saw the storm water inspection was done today.

So council member Forsyth next.

Thank you. First question is a little about the project, little about the neighborhood. So this neighborhood, when I've been through there talking with the neighbors, they're very, not all of them are on our water and sewer, and they want to get hooked up, but the the cost is so high. So since we have this project coming through, will there be messaging to the neighbors to let them know this is happening, this is a chance to actually get onto the water and sewer at a lower potentially cost to you?

There is interlocal agreement between the city of Redmond and Kirkland regarding all that sewer in the different varying jurisdictions of sewer there. And so as far as the utilities go, I'd probably have to defer to one of the utility engineers or something on on what's allowed and what's not allowed.

Okay. I would say if if it's allowable it would be a great opportunity for us to get more folks who've wanted to hook up hooked up as this infrastructure is already coming through, take advantage of the moment situation. Next question is also about Kirkland, so open that door right up. We often hear conversations and community members wanting to know how to slow traffic down on one thirty second so this will be obviously bringing in more homes which is great we need that if you could just at some point come back and let us know how those conversations are going with Kirkland about you know the shared responsibility of traffic calming measures on one hundred thirty second that would be great.

That might be a question better addressed to traffic operations and public works and maybe transportation planning and engineering.

You got support coming up.

My name is Andy

Chao. Hi Andy.

Sorry. Hi, my name is Andy Chao. Good evening council members. I want to address that traffic update of some of the information that we know that actually currently is putting a traffic signal at 101 Hundred 32nd. And actually, I think when I drive by a couple of weeks ago, I think they're already starting with some of the marking and construction. We know that they are going to so that was one of the major, requests from the neighborhood of the traffic signal. So it's happening.

Great. I have driven past that. I did not realize that's what that was for. So appreciate the update.

You're welcome.

See on

the hearing examiner's notes on item number 22, it addresses that this proposed subdivision would be served by the specific schools. Have we, and I know that we don't have a liaison between council and the school board, but a lot of the decisions that we make on the city level impact the schools. Have we been in communication with the schools that would be impacted to let them know? And I'm bringing this up because it's not a one for one replacement of housing, but you were going to see an influx of families with this development. So is conversation that we have or at what point do we have that?

So I will say specifically to this project, I will let Josh speak to that. We meet periodically with the school district. I meet directly with them and we have conversations about that. The impacts of development projects, safe locks zones, have those conversations constantly with them. So that's on our radar all the time. Specifically to the project, we'll do project based input on that, a project based, but we're also doing kind of a larger debrief conversation about overall development within the city with the school district. And that's an ongoing conversation.

Thank you. Thank

you. Any other questions from council? Perfect. In that case, I would just like to kind of piggyback off of Councilmember Forsyth's questions about Kirkland. You know, I I recall knocking doors last year right on 132nd.

And I heard a a number of complaints from folks who said that, I have a Kirkland mailing address because 132nd is in Kirkland's jurisdiction. But my sewer has to go through Redmond and then or, like, into Kirkland and then back in back into Redmond. So I I would just love for there to be some kind of streamlined mechanism of communication for how sewer will work for folks who are trying to buy homes in this neighborhood. Would love to know if there's any plan around that or what we can do to help support that.

Thank you for that question. That's an ongoing conversation that we are enjoying with Public Works and having conversations with our sister city Kirkland. We work with them as a mutual agreement between that and we'll continue to develop that at how that aligns. That's an ongoing process that we have that we continue to have those conversations and I can defer that directly conversation to Rob Crittenden. He's been involved with that in the city engineer's office. But we are working on the projects that are impacting one hundred thirty second and the relationship to sewer and water on one hundred thirty second.

Perfect. Thank you so much. I see council president Stewart.

Sure. Really appreciate the question. I would I would also just encourage Council to hold on to those questions. We did fund a sewer conversion study in this current biennium, and that's gonna be coming back to the Council shortly. I was just doing some constituent relations recently and got to speak with Bert directly on the timeline and and when we will see that. And these are the exact questions we'll tackle there. For the matter at hand, this are we ready to move forward with next steps on this very specific project? I haven't heard any objection, and I do support moving forward with the next steps. Thanks.

Perfect. Thank you for that. Yeah. I I did not I did not know about that, so thank you. Yeah. In that case, any other questions from council? Perfect. Any objections to moving this forward for the May 19 business meeting? Wonderful. Well, thank thank you so much, Josh.

Thank you so much, everybody. And that moves us to the last item of the day, which is the adoption of ordinances to formalize updates to Redwood Municipal Code titles ten, twelve, thirteen, and fifteen, that we heard a few weeks ago in in committee. And I will I will let staff present if they if they have something. I see director Burt. If not, I know council member Parsey had a number of questions at our committee meeting. I will I will give her the floor to to ask any new questions she has or any existing questions about about these ordinance amendments.

Hello. Did you want me to start? Okay. Alright. I had a conversation with you.

Thank you so much for making the time for that. I think there are a couple of items that I have concerns about. One of them is the allowing of e devices, micromobility devices on the sidewalks, and I want to make sure that we fully understand the kind of what distinction distinction is is there there between between micro mobility devices and motorcycles with the increasing speed of micro mobility devices. The line between micro mobility devices and motorcycles are becoming more blurred. So I would like to learn a little bit more about opportunities to ensure safety of pedestrians on the sidewalks.

Another item that I think is important to discuss here here is, again, on the same topic, if I understand that correctly, we are currently banning micromobility devices on sidewalks in two areas in Redmond. One is the Overlake area, and one is Downtown Redmond area. But the map is generally a little bit complex to understand, and it is linked from our ordinance to the Redmond 2050, I believe. So I think there is some challenges in communicating the boundaries and what is allowed and is not to the citizens. And I think it's important that when we think about putting in new laws or new ordinances that people understand what are the consequences, what they're allowed and what they're not allowed to do.

And I think there are some challenges that I hope to see that the city tackle effectively in communicating those requirements and loss to our residents. So those are the two two of my biggest concerns with this one.

Thank you, councilmember. Aaron Burt, public works director, and I'm joined, at the table with Rob Crittenden, the city engineer, who's the primary driver, behind these code updates. Councilmember, could you define for me, I'm sorry, banning micro mobility devices in downtown and Overlake? Because right now, we allow micro mobility devices in downtown and Overlake on city streets and sidewalks?

I can go back, but I think from what I read, which I may be mistaken, the code was confusing, my understanding was that we are allowing micro mobility devices everywhere in the city except downtown and Overlake. If that understanding is incorrect, I'd love to kind of

Yeah, that that is incorrect. Devices are allowed. What we do have, for example, in downtown around City Hall is they are, these devices are geo fenced and we have slogo zones. So for example, the speeds are throttled on the City Hall campus, but there is no banning of these devices. They're allowed in both those parts of the city.

And then the other question, you mentioned the use of motorcycles. So we are familiar with e bikes. And there are some components of e bikes that look like dirt bikes, I guess you could say as a whole, but they're still under the e bike category, which we allow here within the city. Are you talking about a motorized in terms of a gas powered Yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I believe we're not allowing powered devices

on That's this correct. Yes. Gas powered devices are not allowed on city sidewalks outside And of the

the reason for these devices not to be allowed is, I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, the high speeds that they can achieve and the potential safety hazard that they will create for pedestrians. So kind of with the speeds that the micromobility devices reach that are becoming closer closer to gas powered devices. I would like to know how we can bridge that safety gap for pedestrians.

So we've when the transportation master plan was being developed, and our discussions with the transportation planning and engineering group, it's a mouthful, within the planning department that put this together. We did have discussions about this in terms of the use of these micro mobility devices within the city. One of the reasons why we talked about, for example, of not banning wheel devices or even micro mobility devices off city sidewalks is because we don't feel that we have adequate bike infrastructure citywide to accommodate this. So this was a policy decision that was made as a compromise to still allow these last mile, or last half mile devices, for example, I rode a Lime scooter twice today. Did you?

How'd I look?

You looked really tall.

I know, I know. I almost took my head off on some trees. But the decision was made to allow these uses. I recognize the statement that you're making about kind of the evolution of these devices. For example, when I was in Chicago last summer, I was standing on the street and I saw these two kids come zooming by on these e bikes, that I was like, oh, the motorcycles there are popping wheelies and everything.

They were going pretty fast, know. I think in this circumstance, with the language that we have in the code, that it would be a further discussion for counsel to have in terms of how are we going to define what that upper threshold is as it relates to the speed capabilities on these devices? You know, what really is that upper threshold? You know, most of the micro mobility devices, like the Lime scooters, it's like 15 miles an hour, maybe a little bit faster, depending if I, well, my size, if I'm going downhill, I get some more momentum. But, you know, it's balancing act that we have to account for, because it's also a component of personal responsibility.

You're assuming safe operation of these devices as well in the pedestrian bike conflict area. I feel, as mentioned, that if this is a larger discussion that council would like to have further down the road in terms of establishing an upper limit on these types of devices, I think that would be warranted in the future.

Saw Council Member Forsyth next.

Thank you. I'm just double checking myself here to see. I know the state legislature took up an ebike bill, and the class three is goes those those vehicles go up to 28 miles an hour, which I think we could all agree none of us wanna see that on our sidewalks. So I think that is a great place for us to be starting even at the max speed of 20 miles an hour. If that comes up on you on a sidewalk, that's gonna be very problematic.

So I'm very much in favor of continuing this conversation and making sure that we have really clear limits around what some of these e Emotos, ebikes, where they are in our city education, really, for our community. A lot of parents are buying these bikes and not realizing how fast they can go. So I think we need to have a large education component to it as well. The only other question I have is around the safe zones or slow slow go zones, I think is what you called it. Can you expand for us a bit more on what that looks like?

I assume that's only for our Lime scooters. How does that work? We definitely have folks that have their own e scooters or e bikes, and that obviously will not work on those. If you can expand more for us.

Yeah. That

that's correct, council members. So as part of our contract with Lime, they are it's now Uber, I I think, who owns Lime. But they in order to operate in the city of Redmond, they had to be issued a right of way, basically an operations permit from the Public Works Department. Within that certificate, basically, of operations, we can define certain geo fenced areas to reduce speed. And one of those areas was in and around the City Hall campus, mostly dealing with the trails and the fact that there's large events in this area.

You don't want people zooming through there. That is a component of that operating certificate that if we have identified, you know, for example, they're supposed to report to us on usage for example, and whether or not we're tracking accidents or other incidents on those devices. If for example, if we saw something where there was a high threshold of injuries or accidents or other things like in and around downtown park, we could amend that operating certificate and add a slow zone area to there, which you know when I parked my Lime scooter this afternoon, it wouldn't allow me to park the Lime scooter within the slow zone. I had to move it further out on the sidewalk. So unfortunately, it is just on those devices that we have an operating contract with, not if you have your own personal.

And are those in place currently?

Yes. Okay.

Thank you for parking your scooter appropriately.

Yes. Yes, of course.

And then have we considered expanding that to park areas as well?

We have not talked about that, but it is always potential for us to do so.

Yeah, I'm definitely interested in that since high pedestrian area would be a likely area to want to make sure that pedestrians are safe around fast moving multimodal devices.

Sure.

Oh, we do have it in parks? I I'm sorry, I was just corrected. They are in the parks as well. Yeah. It's good to have backup. Thank you, Serafi.

Thank you. I saw council president Stewart with a question next.

Yeah. Thank you so much. I think the conversation on speed of the emotos, first of all, that is a conversation that every jurisdiction in the state dealing with. We did include in our legislative agenda for this past year that we did support the legislature beginning to take action on this. They had two possible bills, and the one that was adopted and was mentioned by council member Forsyth.

There's some discussion of where they landed in our sine die report from Brianna and Amy, so I do encourage the council to check that out. Next month on the twelfth, Amy and Brianna will be back to do a a debrief on the session. And then in September, we actually start building our next legislative agenda. So if if this generally is a topic that the council is interested in asking the state to continue to work on, then we should definitely keep that in mind. As for the speeds and in our code, I I appreciate the conversation.

I also don't think that speed alone is the only safeguard that we have. For instance, the code also requires anyone on any type of micromobility device or bicycle to yield to pedestrians and to give an audible signal. So there are these other safeguards in the in the code. And as the director mentioned, as I was reflecting on some of our previous conversation about this topic, I really look forward to the day when every scooter and every bicycle can be in a designated lane that is separate from separated from the sidewalk. But that is not today, and so I do understand, where we are on this today. Thanks.

Saw council member Sony next, I believe.

Yeah. My actually, I think, again, Council President Stewart was touching on that. But I'll just ask it. So in terms of the speeding, there are some are like shared areas and some are like high traffic areas. So are we following the same blanket, say, the speeding areas? Or will they be different?

I'm sorry. I missed the last part.

So basically, I wanted to understand, when we are talking about the speeding, there are different areas where the speeding and the usage will be different. So I just also wanted to highlight that we be we need to look in a different way rather than having a blanket provision or a blanket reasonable standard that sees the same speeding zones versus so whether in high speed areas or a shared path? So how to think about for some of those things. So I just wanted to highlight that.

Yeah, mean it's difficult to go for example street by street and bifurcate and make kind of some of those determinations. But I think one thing that we do need to do is take a look at use of these devices in and around the city. We also need to take a consideration about if we have accident or injury data, where that or those events are happening. And then once we get some more information, know, we could potentially come back and take a look at, okay, we know that there are designated zones where these micro mobility devices, at least the ones that we can track through Lyme, actually operate because they are supposed to, and Sophie, you can correct me if I'm wrong, they're supposed to be able to provide us basically the metadata showing where the devices are beginning to start and end. So we can get a better understanding of how they're being used within the city.

And then if need be, craft any associated policies or speed zones or anything along those lines. Is it, that's correct about the

That sounded accurate. Yeah, and I think, like to your point that the speed does change to Director Birds Point, I also use the Lime scooters, and when I'm in a certain area, it slows me down, and then you, like, move into that other area. And Lime will actually be adding some additional technology that'll be coming in the summer that will make these even more accurate. It's like little cameras on there so they can detect whether a person is on the sidewalk or not, which will help with the accuracy. Because right now it's geo fenced, which it's a very thin line there, but the cameras will be able to help, and they'll have 50% of their units will have that by June 1, and then 100% by the July.

I just want to say Lime has been a fantastic partner. Director Helen noticed someone almost getting hit in a little bit of an area and said, hey, can you ask them to change the geofence so that it slows down? Because that was the thing, and we asked, and they said, yep, and it was geofence the next day. So if we're seeing areas where there is high potential for pedestrians or whatnot and users are not doing it on their own. Again, with the contract, we we have a really great partner in Lyme who's helping us to manage that.

Thank you. I saw council vice president Nueva Camino next. Just as a time check, it is 05:30, but this item will also be on new business for our business meeting tonight.

Thank you. Happy to see this go on to new business and move forward. Director, thank you and the staff for all the work that went on to the tediousness of this. Deeply appreciate appreciated. My question is multimodality being on an e bike, but a little bit different flavor, and that's that we're seeing a rise in people creating content for social media using their e bikes in the parks over by the light rail station.

And while it's not high speeds, though these are the same class threes that we're talking about, they're more of creating content, doing tricks, acrobatic stunts type things, and then the danger that it puts the people that are at the parks or pedestrians puts that in. How do what's the mechanism there?

Mechanism in terms of enforcement or discouragement? I mean, would almost liken that council vice president to back in the days when I used to ride a BMX bike and pop wheelies and be stupid. You know, look at me, I can stand on this.

And it evolves to the lime scooter.

Yes. Yes. Exactly. You know, I going back to council member Forsyth's comment about education, ir devices. Get

And so, a

choices what that we're people make do. On these devices.

Thank you.

One thing I'll add to that is, kind of following up on this conversation, is that at one point we did have a speed limit in Title X for the micro mobility devices. And in talking to the police, they felt that it wouldn't be easily enforceable for some of the same reasons that have been discussed. So we ended up adding language specifically that said bicycles and micro mobility devices shall be operated safely and cautiously on a wall on sidewalks, yielding to pedestrians at all times. We also have the sound of the bell or the horn within this. And the police told us that that would probably be simpler for them to enforce.

You know, So if if director Burt's got his BMX down there and he's acting reasonable, they can at least have a conversation with him about, you know, you're not operating in a safe and reasonable manner.

Wonderful. Thank you for pointing that out. I appreciate it.

Thank you. Councilmember Parsey, saw you had a question, but given the time, can I ask that you move that to our business meeting for tonight? Council President Stewart.

Yeah, Mr. Chair, I think it'd be really helpful to confirm next steps. So this item is on new business for tonight. That is not the consent agenda, and there's no expectation that any vote has to be unanimous. But the council has an option, a couple of ideas have, you know, been floated around speed. The council should be really clear when we leave this meeting whether or not we want to continue to study the item related to the speed issue or any lingering issues, or if it's settled and truly ready to go to new business tonight. I do think that would be most helpful. So I'll while I have the microphone for my part, I will say I am ready to adopt this item tonight and continue to work on the the safety issues through all of our available tools. Thank you.

Great. Great point. Can I get thumbs up if you're ready to adopt it tonight? Thumbs down if you would like more discussion. Their question. Think that's that's a question. That's Perfect. Awesome. Thank you so much to that's director Bert, city engineer Grinden, deputy director Allen. That concludes our business for this committee meeting.

Anything else for the good of the order? Wonderful. If not, this meeting is adjourned.