County Commission - Regular Meeting

[clears throat] [snorts] To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [cough and clears throat]

Good morning. Good morning everybody. Appreciate everybody coming to commission meeting. First item is approval of minutes. Move to approve.

There is a mistake on the second page under the discussion of the home rule charter. Those voting nay. I think that's Commissioner Bul I think was the descendant. Okay. Guess we'll look to change that. Can we have a motion to move to approve?

Second. We have a a motion and a second to approve the minutes with the changes. All those in favor by saying I

I oppose same side. Approval of minutes pass. Approval of bills. I have one question that was under senior citizens mil fund. It said 25 reissued. What was that for? Um, Brenda Bergude came in and I don't know if she reconciled her books or whatever. Um, the 2025 check never made it to her. cuz she did need it.

Someone was fixed. Yeah.

You good with that bill? For me? You're good with that? Yep. Any other question on approval of the bills? Move to approve the bills. Second. We have a motion and we have a second. Roll call, please.

His fit. May Brown. Hi. Will Helme I Brit or Vulk? I [snorts] motion carries. Approval of agenda. Move to approve. Jeff, did you want to add that or we just want to do that as announcements? The le we put it under new discussion, I think.

Okay. So, yeah, under new business le correct Jeff? Yep. And I'd move that as an amended agenda.

Yep. And then we can also add the trainer checks. Daniel, do we want to discuss that or update that opioid litigation? I haven't reviewed that. I received the updated email from a couple days ago. Uh but it will be on next meeting's um agenda and I'll have it viewed and ready to because it has to be formalized May 4th. I think the date was. I think it said May 7th, but next meeting we have time to do that. Okay. We'll leave that till next meeting. [clears throat] You're good with your amendment, Jeff? Yes. Y

looking for a second. I'll second. Have a motion. We have a second to [snorts] amend the agenda as presented. Now, all those approved by saying I. Those opposed, same sign. Motion carries. Bryce, I guess before Bryce gets going here, I'd like to let everybody know April 14th, correct me if I'm wrong, Bryce will be here. 13th. The 13th will be Bryce's last day as far as the VSO. Oh, no. I guess I'll let Bryce talk about

Okay.

Sorry. I was offered a position over at the high school working for the JOTC. Um, they're offering me more money and my summer's off. So, sorry. I'm going to take it. So, um, with your with the terminate replacement, like I said, like to thank you the opportunity to serve the veterans and service members and their families here in Ramsey, Benson, and Nelson counties. Um, I've learned a lot in the tenure um, about the veterans administration and stuff, too. I wish the stuff I knew now I had known back when I was doing administrative work in the military because like I think there's a lot of service members that could have had benefits for stuff that um they didn't and stuff too just for a lack of knowledge for the medicine and the military side on there. Um I don't want to leave the position totally empty-handed. I talked to the North Dakota Department of Veterans or the North Dakota uh Veterans Administration about maintaining my accreditation and stuff too to help to assist who's ever coming in here and stuff too. So, um, programs like the, um, BBMS, which is the veterans benefit management system and veterans back, I rely a lot on having that accreditation to being able to access the veterans files and the VA system to see how the progression progressing on there or for just seeing what's going on with it and stuff to certain organizational uh, veteran service offices like the DAV don't send out uh, reports on how the veterans are doing. So, the only act way I know what's going on is to actually access the VA system and take a look at it. So, it's kind of important for the job to do um give the veterans, you know, um everything that they need and stuff on there. [clears throat] So, there's a few things for replacement that I put on here too. I think on here like prior military service I think would be uh very good for someone coming in just

knowing the jargon and the acronyms and some of the older veterans I think feel more comfortable in talking with another person that served in the service and stuff too. So um if you're looking at a replacement having someone that has that knowledge and stuff a little bit about the military I think uh would be beneficial. also computer skills. Everything is getting more and more uh computer orientated with all the programs with the VA and the state stuff on there. All the forms that I fill out are along different databases and stuff too. So having that knowledge is extremely helpful and stuff on there. Also to be able to utilize the internet uh to look up things, you know, like legal papers and stuff too or or scientific or doctrinal documentation to try to back up a a claim for a disability, especially for setting a precedent on there because it's something the VA doesn't normally cover. So, you want to look up those medical documentation on there to try to give them evidence to support their claim. Um, and then finally, social work. you know, my job is basically a social work position that is lined up for veterans and their families and stuff on there. So, a lot of the work I do is stuff with uh getting financial help, medical help, you know, some of the homeless veterans, you know, lodging or subsistence, grants and stuff on there. Um, as the economy, if it gets worse, then the need for grants and um veterans with financial assistance seems to increase and stuff too. And I'm seeing an uptick here in the last few months for those um services. Uh workload. Uh the jobs starting to be increasingly demanding. I think some of that has to do with both the economy and stuff on there and veterans starting to get the word out, you know, there's benefits and finances and stuff available through if they just take the

effort to come in and see a veteran service officer and stuff too and talk about their services and stuff too because we do offer quite a lot. You know, the medical benefits in itself can be, you know, with the cost of uh medical stuff too can be quite a good benefit for those folks. and stuff on there. So, [clears throat and cough] when I look at the workload, I think one of the things that the county might want to look at is uh hiring a part-time position to help fill in um it's the other counties and stuff on there. You know, if I did have the other help and stuff in there, there'd be things and stuff that I could do and stuff like going back to veterans that were deceased from something that wasn't covered by the VA previously, but is now. You know, hypothetically, I could go back and say, you know, your veteran died of a cancer that wasn't covered when they died, but it was on their death certificate. And subsequently, their widow or widowerower might be then eligible for a death indemnity compensation, which is a lifetime payment plus medical stuff if they're eligible for CHAP a champ. But, you know, to go back into all the death benefits and or the death certificates and stuff on there and subsequently get a hold of the widow or widowerower is just too time demanding and stuff on there for me to be able to do that. But, you know, if there was someone else in the position who might be able to do that and stuff, too. So, you know, the pay um for the position I think is is not too bad and stuff on there. Um, I think a better benefit would just be to get additional. [laughter] But when I started out the position, um, you know, I was coming off a contract, a government contract job. So, every contract I got, my pay went down and down and down. So, in that last one, I was basically at minimum wage. when I was rescued by the county and stuff with this job and stuff on there. But I did notice after I got into the job for a

bit that my pay was at that time was not commensurate with how the other VSOs in the state were being, you know, paid, you know, based on veteran density and stuff on there. And even though I had brought it up a few times with the commissioner and stuff too because I was doing reports and stuff on there, how other uh VSOs were getting paid in the state at that time. I was doing a comparison rate and stuff on there. So, it like I said, I put on there too, it was a little burle, too, because you know, I thought I was doing quite well because my compensation and benefit, pension benefits every year, we're increasing about a million dollars every year into the counties that I was serving and stuff too. So, um on there, but now the last state and stuff when they did audit and stuff on there, too. So, it brought up the pay quite a bit too and I appreciate that and stuff too. So, I think maybe looking at someone to come in to assist a little bit, even a part-time job might be more beneficial for both the county and for that office and stuff in there. And then if you do get us in a situation like like I'm leaving right now, you would have someone with at least a little bit of experience and stuff on there to not let the office go completely um without support and stuff for a little bit and stuff. Um, there was some talk about possibly the loss of additional counties and stuff on there. The workload for Benson and Nelson counties is pretty low and stuff on there. It's kind of nice because when I go there, especially Benson County, I can get caught up on other cases and stuff on there because it's very quiet and stuff on there. So, you know, I don't, you know, I don't know if it'd be that big of a deal if you lost the counties, but I think like Benson County probably pays more than they should at Nelson County, maybe not quite as much and stuff on there, but the client load on those, I think maybe a fee for service plus mileage might be a better way to go so you're not wasting

that time driving to those counties. And a lot of stuff from that county is I'm not actually seeing a veteran, you know, so much in um Lakota or Minnowan, but driving to Mville or Anetta or Leads or Petersburg and stuff too because more and more veterans are not going into assisted living and nursing homes. They're being assisted at home or doing stuff at home and they're not able to travel. So that causes more visits and stuff too for those veterans to get the services they need and stuff or just to enroll into the programs and stuff too. So again, having, you know, maybe a by appointment thing on there instead of doing a weekly uh thing in the counties might be something to look at and stuff. Um, just a thought and stuff on there. Um, and lastly and stuff on there, um, that I put on there is just I think this is kind of a pipe dream type stuff. Um, the VA administration authorized a new clinic here at the Seabach here. They said five years. When I talked to, uh, the commissioner, Lonnie Wagan, he said, "Well, put that out to 2032 and stuff on there." I think that might be something to look at about moving the county veteran service officers in conjunction with that clinic and stuff on there. So, it's kind of like a one-stop shop. So, they don't they go to the clinic up there while you're not eligible. So, then they come over here to do an enrollment and stuff even if they're not into the county and stuff on here and stuff too, but they just want to get the services and they're in Devil's Lake already and stuff too. Um, with that, um, I get veterans that come in to assist with their travel from the medical appointment. So, they go over there, get their appointment done at the clinic or whatever, and come over to me to get their travel done and stuff on there. Um, and having that proximity and that co- relationship already with the

Veterans Health Administration stuff too might be beneficial for the veterans. I know there the cost for [cough] some that stuff too might be prohibited but just to take a look at it and some see if something that either Altru or the Veterans Administration would be willing to you know maybe they'll have that space available already and stuff on there. So I guess uh once again I'd like to thank the county for the opportunity to serve and stuff on here. Um um I will be available and stuff too. Um with me keeping my accreditations uh I get into this job and then summer break hits and stuff too. So I should be able to find some time and availability to come in here and help whoever my replacement is with their job and stuff too and help them uh get in board with all the systems and stuff too. um or potentially get them access to the systems if they need something for a case and stuff on there. So um I thank you for your time and the opportunity to serve. So at this time I guess I'll open up for any questions.

How long are you going to be on another month or what you be here? No. No. So, actually, uh, what I put in on my on the emails there, my last day was on the 10th and then I start at the high school on the 13th and stuff. So, month. Yes, sir. Yep. Yep. Any veterans that you know of in the community? Um, I talked to a couple uh folks on there that possibly there's a part-time person working out at Cam Grafton. uh a younger gentleman out there um has some computer skills. I think it might be a good fit, but it's just to see if he's interested stuff on there and stuff too. So, but

your case will look pretty big then.

Yeah, it is for the position for on there and stuff too. If you look at a comparable counties like you know Stzman or something on there or if you look at some of the bigger hubs around there may not Grand Forks Bismar uh Fargo you know some of the bigger towns and stuff on there you're going to see that they have like a veteran service officer plus an administrative assistance or two veteran service officers on there and stuff too. So on there but you kind of you kind of get what you pay for so to speak. So the more you know assistance the veterans who gets I think the more money you're going to get put in there then for the compensation and pension and other benefits that are going to get drawn back right into the counties and stuff too. And these are usually older veterans. They're not going to grab their cash and go and stuff too. They're going to take all their uh finances and spend it back right into the counties. Bryce, do you have a number of how many veterans are located within our region?

I can not I can tell you how many we serve, you know, because we we have an overall population of of individuals, but do we have an overall population of veterans that potentially could be our or your that offices clientele?

Yep. So the the the veterans that I serve right now is about 900 here in Ramsey County, another 300 uh 335 in Benson County and 236 in Nelson County and stuff on there. So and those are just veterans that I serve. So those are veterans that are rolled into the VA system and stuff too. So there could be substantial or more. And then you have uh some folks like are in the National Guard and reserves that are are could potentially be veterans but don't utilize the system or are unable to. So can you come up with a uh a potential uh consulting fee or part-time salary for yourself as you we work into this transition that you would like to have as far as compensation? I I guess I wasn't worried about that at that, you know, at all. But

No, but I think that's something that moving forward we'd like to know a number. Um, so we can work that in as well. And [clears throat] you know, I think 7:35 an hour, [laughter] probably not. But that's more than I was thinking though. [laughter] So, but just something to keep in mind u as we move through this progression. I don't know how easy of a position it's going to be to fill.

Um hopefully it'd be something that we could get somebody in house or in in the region and up and running relatively soon, but that may not be the case. So, your willingness to stick around and provide some services to the veterans greatly appreciate that. Yeah, there there's some some cases that I'm working on now with some clients that I've been literally going on for years and stuff too and I don't want to just drop them off right now as to and quit halfway through too because you know sometimes the VA can be frustrating and stuff too and it can take years and stuff too uh to get the benefits some veterans deserve and stuff too and I don't want to leave them hanging. So,

right. Well, we appreciate that and appreciate the work that you've done with our veterans within our communities. Anybody else have any questions for Bryce? So, what I got out of this Bryce is recommendations were to hire a full-time BSO for Ramsey. Yes. Yeah.

Okay. Anybody else have any questions? [clears throat] I mean, other than that's probably something we're going to have to definitely discuss before we put the right it out to HR to have them hire someone.

Anybody else? I appreciate your time and congratulations on your new job. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, moving on to Are you okay if we move? Go ahead.

Good morning. We just had our April meeting and couple things on the agenda. We had a reminder there is a snag and clear meeting in Lakota today at the community center at 3:00 that I'm hoping at least the majority of the county commissioners can attend for the snag and clear for the cler Bartlett. We discussed the proposed fans for snag and clear. We had representatives in from that petition and everything is ready to go. There is 80 a little over 8,200 acres in the proposed project and about five to five and a half miles and it is way below the $100,000 ceiling for a snag and clear. So, we are wondering if if everything timelines work out, would it be okay to have a public meeting on the 21st at your next commission meeting? And I don't need an answer right now, but if it work looks like it would work on the agenda, we can get that done. We did change or we did nothing to change the Stark weather assessment. That remains at zero because there's enough in there in case something comes up. We did lower the Hammer Sullivan assessment from 75 cents an acre to 25 cents an acre and left Grand Harbor at $2.50 an acre. We adopted a resolution for tile permitting to ask for a $500 permitting fee for the waterboard. Other than that, that pretty much sums up our meeting this morning. Any questions?

Our meeting this afternoon I'm I'm not very familiar with that system over there, that green system. The water boards all good to go with that. the waterboard and actually the county commissioners in Nelson County are the ones that asked to take and have it renew it being the current one now is paid off in April. So to my knowledge they are in favor of it and we only had one landowner descent at the first public meeting when it was done five years ago. It was originally done in in 2020 I believe and it basically cleans out the clear apartment system that drains south to Stump Lake.

Correct.

And from my understanding those townships and those the county to the east of us were greatly appreciative of the water that was able to come off those township roads over in that area. Fish and Wildlife has actually worked with the whole project and has been very actually very decent to work with. They have allowed more water maybe than they actually had to come off, but there's been a fair amount of roads that the townships have gained back because of what the work that's been done. And this is basically to just do a better job this time around because with the money that was allocated with 100,000, you can only do so much the first time around. So, this is just to clean it up and make it better. And I have not gotten any calls this empty that don't like the project, at least not for our county.

Any other questions for you? [laughter] Does it look like the 21st may work if the timelines for the notice will work or not? Just so I can tell Stacy. I I would say go ahead with it. Okay. Unless anybody else feels not I just go with the John. Okay. Nothing else. Thank you guys.

Thank you. Jason, [clears throat and cough] good morning everybody. Um, I sent the agenda. I had quite a few things to um go over the We'll start with the lighting contracts. I didn't bring those this morning. I'll get those to Candy later, but I'm asking for a motion that the ones we do have that we can get Commissioner Chairman Vulk to sign at some point. Okay. So, can we get a motion for that for you to sign those plating contracts that we do have back? Move to approve.

Second. Got a motion. I got a second. All those favor are saying I oppose. Same sign. Motion carries. All right. [clears throat] The next thing I have I believe I sent you guys the quotes. We u looked at we discussed getting rid of our 621 case payloader at one point earlier when we were looking at repurposing some of this equipment for some of this new stuff we need. I got those quotes back. Um, Butler was the low low bidder on that. It was very close. Was within $150 or somewhere in there. 13208 actually. So, I'm [clears throat] looking at uh I suppose we need to make a motion to declare that payloader surplus first, Daniel maybe.

So, the [clears throat] basically the payloader will be getting traded for Vea for one and then basically we have to purchase one. But we did it as a two pack to try to get more value. We need five. But but question I have, what are we doing to replace the load? We're not We have two still. Okay. Yep. This is the [clears throat] one that we had before we got the new one. It was the pit loader. So, [snorts] at this time, we're looking for a motion to make the loader a surplus. So, I would say so we can trade it. I think that's how we'd have to do that.

That sounds correct to me. Make a motion to declare the uh 621 case payloader surplus and allow for it to be traded for second. We have a motion. We have a second. All in favor by saying I oppose. Same sign. Motion carries. All right. Then the next part of that like a motion to accept the trade difference. This isn't paying anything today. This would just be to accept that quote for $18,2672. That'll be paid obviously when the equipment is delivered. I'd move to approve. Second.

Have a motion. A second to approve the difference of 18,2672 for a V policy. All those in favor by saying I

post same sign. Motion carries. Okay. The next thing I was going to ask you about, we got [clears throat] into the blading quotes is, and I forgot to, the blading contracts, are we offering the city of Devil's Lake blading contract again under our new current standard or thoughts on that? Anybody have any questions or concerns or I don't know if they're going to want to. I know they're fully staffed again [snorts] now. They have a couple motor graders. I think that was part of the issue when they started that. What roads were we blading for them?

Um, all the perimeter roads around the city. So, they actually pave 14th Street now. And they did a bunch by the dyke alignment back behind um not sure on their numbering system, but I think you guys know where we're talking behind straight behind uh Max back there basically. So, we still do the [clears throat] stretch by like the would be like the um football field area there and knocking that over and then over by the cemetery. We'd have that stretch. There's not as much. They've done a lot of paving, but unless we just want to offer them like an hourly by the hour rate maybe.

Do you do 14th uh past the death school? Yeah, for a township. Yes. And then do you do the truck route or is that alternated alternated with the city? We we do it every time. Yeah. And then there's part of that's the city and then they have part of the airport road as well. So that's part of their agreement. And have we had contracts with the city in the past for that?

Just like the last few years, Kevin, and the city got started on the the blading on that um contract thing. So, in the past, we would do the truck route for a month, they would do a truck route for a month years back. And then recently, the last few years, we've just always done it as part of our bleeding agreement with them. Like I say, I'll move forward with whichever we decide. If we want to just offer a flat rate to do their bleeding, I think would probably be the easiest. Now, since they don't have any miles to really add up, it's it's not as if we were to give them a contract, we'd blade their roads for $1,1500 for the summer, maybe because there's no mileage to it for a six-time contract.

Which way do you want? Well, I'd prefer to see if they first off, if they would like to blade their own roads, right? I think that would take the workload off of us and shift it back into them. And if they do not want to, then I would like to ask for an hourly $150 an hour for whatever work we're doing. I just think that's fair. We offered for the other government entities obviously the townships and the other city little towns. I'm not opposed to doing it. It's just What kind of time do you think you have into if you have to do it all a day? The city blading. Uh probably a half a day. [cough and clears throat]

So we'd be looking at maybe instead of probably $600 700 750ish a day a time. Okay. Versus hourly. Yeah. For the summer. The contract thing is really nice thing for the townships and stuff obviously, but it's not really designed to [clears throat] for everyone. If you don't add m lane mile or road miles to it, it just it doesn't pay for us to enter into a per mile contract when there are no miles to add to it. I think give them the opportunity if they want to take their blading back on themselves or if they do not then we offer at the $150 rate. Okay.

Do we need I'll come Well, I can bring you Yeah. Do you want me to bring it back at the next meeting? Good idea. Okay, I think we'll just table it till next meeting. Okay, that'd be fair. And if they want us to do anything between now and then, we can figure that out hourly or whatever. Is that fair? Fair to me. You guys, we want a motion to table it. Yeah, so just until we get it straightened out. If they ask us to do anything, I won't deny it. We'll just tell them it'll be by the hour. So we have a motion [clears throat] and a second to table it for next meeting. All in favor by saying I I both same sign motion carries.

Let's get some communication find out.

Yep. Sounds good. I I would I apologize for not having that before the blade contracts. I just didn't even think about this city being part of that. Um the county line agreements. I worked with Daniel for a while on that back and forth. We um got those together. I don't know if you guys had a chance to read through them. They're all one document just with the different legal road share descriptions, I guess, best way to put that. Um if there was anything in there you guys would like to change or see added or taken out, those types of things, you don't have to decide on that today. We can get those signed at the next meeting. give you guys a chance to read through them.

So, you all

I edited all of them [clears throat] through added some language, cleaned up uh the language that was there, uh made sure that it was all one I standardized all four of the contracts as well. They were all they all appeared to have been written by other counties and so I put them all into the single document form so that it's consistent for us at least. Um and then um talked with Jason about uh one of the biggest changes I think is the uh budgeting requirements that anything over $100,000 uh dollars must be brought to the commissions the commission for approval prior to June 30th for budgeting purposes. Um that was just a shot in the dark by me. Uh Jason says that the $100,000 works for highways purposes. Um that's that's the major safeguard I think just so that we don't get the same surprises like the uh Grahams Island Road chip and seal that we had this year. Um otherwise it was cleaning up the uh road descriptions um as best I could and just kind of reviewing those. Jason looked over the roads and I mean everything seems equitable what we're sharing as far as maintaining roads with our

this we have an agreement because some of the stuff was basically a handshake before there were four there were agreements that I think all of our neighboring counties were following for the most part uh whether or not we had signed versions of those agreements I think is kind of the question and whether a slide completely or partially or just having something up to date that has everybody on the same page is the main goal here. And the documents looked like they covered everything. I I me and Jason would have looked at them several times over the

Yeah, in person. You met with me a couple times and we did it through email and we've been working on it for a few quite a few months. So, I think we hit all the bases there. I'm happy with them. Um, as long as you guys are happy with them, I think we'll can move forward with them. But certainly look at them and see if there's anything that we've missed just with your guys' experience with dealing with the other counties. I don't know the other counties. I don't know, you know, um, like Daniel said, we looked at documents. Everything that I could find that was actually for an agreement. The the newest ones were like 2001 and some were dated back before that. So, um, and of course everything I had, nothing was signed, but I'm not saying those are the originals. I don't know where they would have been. Um, it's just what I could find. So, that's just for conversation for now. Well, I'll bring that back and someone asked to accept any changes or whatever, sign that at the next meeting. Then, same again with the Culver policy. If you guys had a chance to look through that, Daniel helped me with that as well. I put my thoughts on on an email and after we met in person and he took some notes and then he went back and helped draft something proper that we feel confident in. Our biggest thing there was making sure that when people come in the yard, they're in the yard to get a culvert. They know to stay alert. We know they're not going to stay in their vehicle, but we are hopeful that they do until the equipment loading, you know, is done moving. But anyway, it's just something to sign. Just one of those things that I felt like we should have.

And one of the largest concerns was safety of general public walking around the heavy equipment area without proper equipment or visibility or any of those things. I don't think any issues or incidents happen. Never prefer that they not happen at all. And if they do, we have something. And this doesn't change the the policy that we've had before about who pays for what?

It does. This is updating from the conversation we've had recently, specifically identifying that private individuals have to pay taxes, townships do not, but they must prove that they are paying with township funds. Just just so that that is very clear to anybody coming to the highway department for culverts. just to catch up like Ed there. We had we have people that'll come in um order a township will order they'll order a culvert through a township then they'll come in and write a check for the culvert and they'll and then they don't want to pay the tax. Well, that's okay if the township's okay doing that stuff, but we don't want to be doing knowing we're doing tax evasion, right, in that transaction, right?

Probably not. So we want to make sure I'm just it's just the way it is. Yeah. People don't realize it like that, but that's what we're doing, you know? So we have to make sure we do things the the right way, right?

So again, look through that. Like I say, we don't have to we can accept these or not. If you guys think they need you want more time to look at them, that's totally fine. I'm good with that. Uh snow policy is also there. It's another thing just to look through. Again, we had nothing. um every county and all the townships, a lot of them even nowadays too. But anyway, long story short, a lot of conversation about this. It's just something good to get on your website. It tells people what to somewhat expect when you're going to plow, when you're going to move, you know, when you're going to roll equipment, when you're not. So, that's just something that we'd like to get posted out on the website at some point. Once we you guys look at that and we're okay with that, we'll move forward with that and get that to the IT and get that under the highway department website.

I [clears throat] think when we go through and sign these policies, especially the policies, but they both be uploaded on that. So, someone needs to look at it. Yep. That's I agree. Yeah, I should have put that on there. That's makes sense now. So, that just track it. I agree with you. And again, even with the with the snow one, gathered everything from different places and different ideas and sent shipped it all to Daniel. Here you go. So, Daniel's been busy for the highway department.

I know he's busy, but he again looked through all that. So, that should be put together properly as well. So, I want to make sure that we do things like I say, we don't word something that is gray. So, there that's those. You guys can look through those and we'll get your thoughts next meeting and we like them, we'll move forward. Um, the next thing is we received a quote for a flat bed for the 2017 3/4ton pickup. We checked around, we found a warrior bit through Samuelson out there. Um, our guys will install that ourselves. That would be for $3,100. I'd like to get a motion to order that for the pickup. So move. Second. So we have a motion. We have a second to order flatbed $3,100.

Yes. Welding. All those in favor by saying I. I. I. Same. Sign oppose. Motion carries.

The [clears throat] next one is uh Webster motor greater needs some welding repair to the mboard. We had uh guesters had time to cut the the bolt-on part, the frog off. It took damage during snow plowing into the bolt holes. Um we had that rem we had them remove it. We brought it back to our shop. We are currently grinding and getting it prepped for welding. We're trying to keep that cost down. This is just a guesstimate that it's going to go over $2,500. We don't know for sure. We've already paid for the steel which was under that. That part is done. it just to get it reinstalled, but I talked with Lee and we're trying to get a guesstimate. So, it was uh between 2500 and 3,000 was his is his estimate. So, asking for a motion to proceed with getting that finished up and back together.

Move to approve. Second. We have a motion and a second to move forward motor grain welding needs. Those in favor by saying I. Those opposed. Same sign. Motion carries.

Um I got a call. I visited with the sheriff. We're going to take care of this. Just keep you guys heads up in case you get called. The no fishing signs on Ramsey County 4 South. They want there's some concern. They'd like to see it say no fishing from roadway instead of no fishing anytime because they don't like they want it clarified whether they can fish off the road in a boat. And the way it says now, it's no fishing. I It's just whatever. So, we're just going to put the no fishing from roadway signs up. Um, the only other thing they wanted us to do was end that we we have speed zone ahead signs as you approach it, reduce speed, and then increase the speed. Again, we don't have end speed zone sign. So, we're going to put an end end of speed zone sign on the far end of each. And then we're going to turn some of the no parking signs so they face the road instead of parallel to the road. As you drive the road, it says no parking, but they're not actually facing the road. [clears throat] So, this resident was concerned about how it was marked up. So, we're going to take care of that just to make that.

Thank you. Second. Have a motion and a second to approve the RC4 sign. Those in favor are saying I those opposed same sign. Motion carries. [snorts]

Um we had the chip seal and gravel bids. Thankfully Candy was gracious enough to allow us in on Good Friday to do that because when Jason was planning, Jason made an error on dates there. So, um, we had those. We opened those and Close was the low bidder for the two gravel projects. So, like a motion to accept Clos's low bid. And I bet I didn't put the prices on. Oh, yeah, I did. I gave you guys I sent you a spreadsheet yesterday. So, you have the prices there at everybody's bids somewhere. And uh or we'll get them to you if you don't have them. Jason, when were those bids due?

They were due for by the third. Yes. So, they were due on Good Friday. Yes. Did we receive any after that? Uh, since we had no mail that day. I do. We have Did we I think I think we do have a couple that I'll have to um send back. I haven't seen them, but yeah, [snorts] I notified everybody that was a bidder. We tried to make the changes, but yeah, I had a guy meet me here that morning and drop one off from Morris from the snow. So, yeah, tried to accommodate all the biders.

So, I will deal with the with that, I guess. So, we have that. Those two were the only two we had for or we had several for the gravel and then we had two for the chip seal. So you guys look at those prices and we had ran legal ads in the paper. Um we did all that. We started that in March. We ran six required for those [clears throat] as well. So those in our packets

it was on a spreadsheet. You need one right here. [clears throat] So you uh question on this like the more seal code for instance they're higher of chip seal but then the cobra there you want to just when we accepted you just want one one of those two. Yeah. Okay. And yeah otherwise you have two contractors.

Yeah. I had two biders on the chip seal. Otherwise we'd be working with two. And and that's a that's a fair question because Morris has been working with us for several years. I I don't I'm not I think Aztec does a fine job, too. But either way, however we go it, we're going to pay more. It's $1,000. It's like $1,400 on one and 400 on the other one. So, we're talking $1,000 difference there. So, and then the cove road that's split also. There'll be township funds in that, but we bid it. We take care of lining up the contractor and then we collect from the townships on that. I've already talked to them about bidding the process. The only thing that would be changed is if they come back now and say they can't afford their share. And that was specified right in the bid that if we if the it was contingent on awarding if the townships can afford it once we see what the bids came in at. That was spelled out in the bid letter.

Okay. For the cold road.

Are you looking for a motion? Gravel would be close and chip seal. I would like to work just work with Morris. Anybody have any other questions on this? Yeah. And with Andy would like two separate motions. I would move to approve the bid for close for gravel. We have a motion. We have second. We have a motion. We have a second to accept the bid for gravel with post construction. All the faire by saying I I oppose same sign. Motion carries.

Moving on to the ceiling chip sealing cobra. Looking for a motion. Move to approve more seal code. We have a motion. We have a second. Second. We have a motion. We have a second to [laughter] set Morris seal coat for the two baits that he has here. All is fair by saying I

I post same sign. Motion carries. Um the last thing I sent you guys late yesterday for actually to look at and to get signed is that North Dakota Game and Fish had reached out to me. Um, they're looking to put in a a uh let's see, I have that letter. I'm think you guys maybe have it as well, but they want to put in a bolt landing, primitive bolt landing off of county 2 into the Fster Slooh. I believe there was a map with that as well.

It's right where the water Yeah, it was right where the water was. uh right where the water comes up to county two and four there. So they're going to just put some gravel slope that it it's eroded from the wave action there and that access.

Yes. So, um, on that letter that I sent you guys, it just reads, "The Northakota Game and Fish is interested in working with Ramsey County and prove the current access at Fster Lake throughou the existing access point located where County Road 2 enters the lake by intersection Ramsey 2 and four has experienced shoreline degradation over time making it access to difficult." So question I have [clears throat] so that down the road having problem is there going to be enough parking there? No,

there's there's not and uh there currently isn't now and I don't know that anybody but more than a couple people have fish in there. I don't know. I know they said they um stocked it with northern pike. They had tried some perch, too, but they didn't make it. He said I did talk to the township and uh talked to Todd Aronson. He was in with his blading contract. He said he doesn't have a they don't have an issue with them having access there. They like they said it's the water is their water or whatever situation. [snorts] But yeah, it's like if it gets busy with boats and boat trailers, where do they park?

Wasn't that the same township that's trying to get water off that area? Yes. And so Sure.

something does not I can remember being unconditional

on Ramsey 4 going around that slope. Yeah. Which is now a decimated lake. Y should be looked at by the water as far as the water. Yeah. They denied a emergency permit to us or not to us but to the water board to move water off there. The state you know obviously a different channel government but we're not putting no money in there. Okay.

So I have to jump in. I have to go to court but I just want to give my two cents of I don't see any issue with the memorandum as presented other other than the local issues that you've identified. I I would agree. I think it's probably prudent to talk to the township and to the water board about how much water they want to come down just so game and fish game and fish should be in on that conversation so that they know that potentially whatever they do may be a waste of money in a few years if the water does reduce or maybe they want to build it anyways and make it really long. I don't know. But I agree they should be [laughter] notified of that. I just wanted to jump in before I had to leave. Sorry.

Oh, that's fair. Thank you. Do you know does game and fish have any um plans on putting refuge containers there? Uh trash containers and are they responsible to open dumping that? No, I uh got the I got the letter that I got and I sent it with you guys after I I talked to Todd about it and then I was just going to bring it to the meeting. I we haven't made any I haven't had any further conversation. I haven't seen any actual design besides that little sketch. As far this is, as far as I'm concerned, know this is early beginning stage, conversation stage. I'm sure they want to move forward with it as fast as they can, but

well, I think according to the game and fish website, they have a that designated as a bolt landing on that. They already do. They already do. called adventure lake and um they have a little one of those little brown signs there indicating that it's a boat landing. I wonder if there uh there's not is there anything there's nothing marked there now yet though per like in person is there? Well, I don't think there's anything there in person, but I I know on their website there is something. Um found it quite interesting. Yeah, I would agree to that.

[snorts] So I think um so basically they're trying to use the county's right to put in a boat. Well they according to the drawing and what the letter says they're not going to it's just going to be gravel into the water just smooth off where it's washed out is [clears throat] what I take from that. They're not in the past they must have just been going off the road. They're just going off the road, but now they can't go off the road because it's washed out in augured into that approach is what is what I'm taking from the letter now without seeing an actual makeup of what the work scope is. I don't we don't know.

Well, I definitely think they we need to definitely approach them if the water board is planning on reducing the water level. It could just be a 100% waste of project. It seems like we're probably going to be under for a tossle on getting any water out of there if they've already deemed it a lake and have a public boat access posted on the website there.

That's good. Okay. So, we're that's where we are with that. I'll notify him and tell them at this point we didn't uh we're not accepting the thing. We'd like to maybe more information have some more information on what's the plan and we I just don't want to create more problems for the road that we already have now. [clears throat] Once they put this in, they're not putting the money up to send our sheriff out there every other day. And that's people can't access the road properly. And we all know that it's a major hub now with the Ovator traffic going down four. I get that. But it's

but I mean for traffic parking out there that would be that could cause a nightmare, right? Because I don't want to be sitting here two months and now we're having another conversation that we we accepted and now we're trying to fix. I guess it's just a green um little icon on their website says um fishing access generic shoreline. Um they don't have a a brown or a red boat ramp indicator on that, but they do call it tensers lake. And um

yeah, one of the local game fish guys told me they stocked it. They did. So I know they put fish in it.

Not part of this agreement, but just in conversations about this, trying to figure out what they were doing, you know, what we were looking at out there. a lot more information. Okay.

We don't need to make a motion. No, I I'll just have I think I'll invite them to actually come and visit. Probably be the best thing. So, I'll just That'll be my reply back to have them get them to get on your agenda or my agenda to come to visit with you at your meeting. Yep. Have Mr. C do that. Yep. I think that would be the best. Okay. And then we can make some decisions from that. Thank you.

And then the Larry last thing we have to discuss is um I've received some uh interest about our thought process on the removal on the bridge south of Churches Berry. Few of the residents are um concerned about that bridge leaving. I was unaware one of the uh farmers there uh has claimed that as recent as 2021 he was able to use that during harvest one year with some threw some gravel on and was able to haul down that. I don't know if we want to pull that up on the [clears throat] parcel viewer caddy maybe if we can and take a look at that if everybody's familiar if anybody's had a chance to get down there. Um I did explain to him that the conversation got started, you know, the state sent out their list of um asking for inundated bridges and if anybody had any candidates for removal and it was submitted at that time as one of our bridges that was that is inundated and would be a candidate for removal. And then it just started to build momentum from there and ultimately was selected to be removed by the state under the grant

at no cost of ours because the grant cover it uh the engineering cost was on there right preliminary. Yeah, I got the letter here and like I guess I don't mind. So I have a question I guess for KJ. If this bridge was removed and in the future that road came out of water,

is this a site that we would be able to put box culvers in to replace that bridge or not? Again, I guess I think we're working on one upstream of that that's about as big as you want. And that's, you know, there's more area in between. So I think it's more than likely have to be a bridge again. And there wouldn't be if you take the funding to remove it, there's probably not going to be one to put back in.

So the last inspection was it received an excellent rating. Is that correct? Yeah, a good rating. Yes. Solid. So, so my question is is why would we take out a structure that's in good condition? Well, I know it's underwater and it hasn't been utilized in a number of years. Um, so you're close. You just got to move. Yep. Over. Let's see here. Go back up to the high. Can you find highway two? Oh, you're going. You're going. Yeah.

It Yep. It's right there on that right there. straight south of Church's Ferry coming out of there right there. That that's the bridge. And so it's a according to DOT, it's a about a 70 foot 72 foot uh total length. Width is 30 feet and a half. Roadway width is 297 and a half almost 28 ft. Uh condition ratings it says uh deck superstructure rating was four excellent underwater inspection showed no defects um in it. No, the structure is good. There's no road to the south of it at all anymore basically. Um, which it's less to construction or fix up the road than it would be to put in a bridge or a box cover. So,

so what condition is your road in going south of there? I guess the picture is pretty much non-existent here. The main road is good after you get south. Yeah. Is that what you mean, Jeeoff? Or right from the structure itself? No, the main road going south. Yeah, we keep that up. We gravel it on. It's on the road plan and it's just that to that mile line that's eroded. And then about a half a mile south, it's all cattails and

I think the expense of replacing it if and when the water comes down would be tremendous, especially if we receive funding to remove it. I don't think there'd be any funding going forward to replace it. Right.

Well, I agree. I think we're probably better off leaving it also just for the fact that there may be funding to help fix that in the future versus not the the other thing with this is a mile over is the road they use now to access there's a decent town yep decent township road that they've been going around on that and I did offer with speak with the township we do as currently we spot gravel and do some things with that road right now, but I think we should be doing more with that road. It needs some reshaping and stuff like that on the curves, the intersections, whether we take the bridge out or not. See, the only problem with that road right there is when you pull up to the highway to access if you're going west, the highway two curves right there. So, if you're pulling out of there with a loaded semi and heading to the heading west, you're pulling out into traffic. You really don't know what's coming. And you know, vehicles, one thing, but a load of truck that takes momentum to get going.

Yeah, the township road on the curve there. So, yeah, zoom out a little more, Candy. It comes out right by the right before the curve there. See where the intersection right there? over a little more to the east to your right down

right there. So, as you pull up there with a loaded truck, if you want to go west, it's you're pulling into 70 mph traffic coming around that curve. If that alignment was better, but obviously we can't have everything there. So, like I said, that road there. I can't remember the address on that thing if it's

Yeah, that sounds right. Um, instead of leaving that is it just this is a township's responsibility. I think when we gravel and do things, we'll help maintain that a little better because technic it is part of that county line. Now, by circumstance, that's the only access they have to go from there to the three miles south because we moved the traffic from that road underwater to that.

Yeah, there is an alternate route that was built out there to go all the way to the very south end of that because there's another lake crossing. So, the three miles back to where the bridge is under, you go three miles south, two and a half miles south and then it's underwater again. There's only two and a half mile stretch of road there that's out of the water. So if you keep following the county line, it dead heads into the water again [clears throat] right through that section there. That's all.

That's all underwater over here again. Yeah. On the county line road on 68th or whatever that would be then that or 66 whichever way the numbering system goes. Right where she's getting to now. all through there that's all underwater. So then that's when they built the alternate the township did in FEMA to come around to get down to the Tulsson farm on the end. So by leaving the bridge there you're making access for those three miles of road which they can access through the the township side but it's not ideal how it comes up to the highway there. I'm not I'm not uh one way or the other on this bridge. It's a good candidate at the time to get removed with the state funding if we're not going to do anything with the road. But if we have intentions on fixing the road, then I would also agree that we gamble that when we do put traffic back on that bridge that it holds up. It's got a good rating right now sitting. We're not running loaded semis over it either, though. It's a It's been sitting in the water since on and off since early 2000s.

Do you know what the weight capacity of that bridge is if it were dry? Well, it's not rated. So, it's unrestricted. So, yeah. Yeah. Right.

It's almost almost a mile grade race to fix the road to use the bridge.

That's obviously why they didn't stick. That's obviously why they didn't stick money into it before, right? They moved funding basically to offset. Exactly. And right now there's money to get rid of some of these structures that are and that's every two years, $3,000 every two years to local share inspect it.

Yeah. [clears throat] So the benefits of removing the be to eliminate that inspection expense and as well as viability of people know trying to get across it when the when it's just barely water if you do patch up the road because they're not there's no point building the road up higher than the bridge because it's right you know you'd have wave action or whatever like I was said it wouldn't be safe

like I say I've been I was with the department I didn't even know trudge through that trail in 2021 with hundreds of thousands of bushels of grain. I don't know that I would personally recommend doing that. Just if you can see the prairie trail, but again, who is liable in that situation if something goes I don't understand is if the road is underwater, why isn't it closed? Why are we going through it in the first place? Well, I don't know how you keep people out. We put barricades up. We do all that stuff. They just knock them down, gun on their fish, run them over, drive them over. It's like that with all the roads. You can't keep them out

and the sheriff can't sit there 24/7. I mean, if I suppose if we went out wrote hard tickets or something all day long, we probably get the message through, but that's not logistically possible for them either to As long as the bridge is physically still there, it has to be inspected.

Yep. And should be closed. It's not an easy call either way. My fear as a maintenance supervisor is we turn the money away. We put loads to it and the bridge starts to crumble once it starts to see traffic if it ever does come out of the water. Even if that's as as soon as two or three years from now when we feel safe to use it, what happens when we put weight to it and it starts shifting and moving and flexing? We don't know. Those are on things we don't know. The only thing is we don't know we could get if we get if we remove it, we'll never get funds to repair it, right?

That's the only downfall or or the four 5,000 ft of road. I wish there was a better option to do something with the township road. I really do. I mean, I know it's an extra mile jog in there, but you know, if we could do something with that as a tradeoff to make it so people just so we don't have to put the focus back on that bridge or that road that's underwater. But I So, there's a deadline. Is there a deadline to spend this money that was received from the state to remove that?

Yeah, it's has to be done this summer. So, Could we wait on getting more information and making this determination and maybe at our next meeting how we want to proceed with this? Yeah. And I'll I'll reach out and make sure what that 2026 construction season deadline date is and then what date they would want to know if they return cost estimate. It's 2015. That's estimates. Um, yeah, I brought all the info on it, but I don't see an end date, but it's construction for it's set for deconstruction in 2026. The state also is going to want to know because they want to reallocate that grant money somewhere else. So,

Sure. Yep, we can do that. We received for grant money. Was it 160,000? Yeah, it's 164,000 for to remove that one bridge. Yeah. [clears throat]

So, I guess I got some homework to do. Got a couple people to contact for you guys to get some information for the next meeting.

The options would be either leave the bridge and hard sign it so it's closed, you know, in the meantime, probably at the at the next approach so people have a place to turn around where where the closure is. people would have to walk out ways to fish on it. But I mean, that's probably the best solution if you're gonna bridge in. The other alternative would be to take over the township road from the township for, you know, request to transport it and put that on your county system and start maintaining that instead and take the bridge out. they need to eliminate those upcoming costs because there's probably I don't know that's that when that bridge comes out of the water and if you put traffic back on it fix up the road to it there's cost you know associated with that that isn't isn't going to be state funded and then there might be some like Jason was saying there might be more damage between now and then with the ice you know hitting it pushing on it and the outside beams might get beat up but as of right now the structure good condition and it has been.

Yeah, it definitely surprises us. It is holding up. It's crazy actually. But I think based on the DO's inspection, it was constructed in 88. Is that correct? Yeah, I believe so. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was part of the plan to bring water. It's just nobody realized how much water. So, all right. Anything else? Thanks, Jason. Yep. Thank you. Oh, that hard closure. Oh, go ahead.

Well, no. I just gonna say with that hard closure, if that's something we decide, um I don't know. I wish Daniel was here, too. But I was thinking of like closing it. Closing it like dirt mound closing it at the bridge. Maybe leave enough room to walk so people could go fish off the bridge if we really want them to go fish off the bridge. But if the road's closed, people shouldn't be down there anyway. That's the thing. But we'll put our signs in place and stuff like that, which is stop people from actually driving because like I said, we don't know that if it goes down and all a sudden they're going to start hauling on it. Well, what if they fall through this thing and we something happened to it in between the threeear inspection cycle or whatever? So, that's just something to think about when we get to that point. That's what we're good as can get the poll. Jason,

so while I was over here talking about the fan cheer snag and clear, Stacy was on the phone with the paper with the journal and the 21st will not work with the timelines we have to meet for the statute. So I would ask that potentially on the 5th of May, could we take and move it back to the county commission meeting the same day we have our water meeting? possibly nine o'clock. I can't see why not. All right. Thank you. Yep.

Okay. Moving on to unfinished business. Seeing none, moving on to new business. Approval of baitments. Move to approve. Second. Have a motion. We have a second to approve the two of eight. All those in favor by saying I oppose. Same sign. Next item is LEC and 911. Jeff, you want to take this or

I [clears throat] can take it. Um so since our last meeting um both Nelson and Eddie counties have decided that they no longer want to be a part of the joint board with the law enforcement center and their 911 services at the law enforcement center. law enforcement center uh joint powers agreement had indicated that um they wanted a a decision made by the county entities to be a [clears throat] part of the joint powers agreement the following year. Um, so working through the budget system or budget deadlines uh with the uh law enforcement center and the 911 that we had we would know that what counties were going to be a part of that joint powers agreement moving forward for the following year so we could budget that moving forward. Nelson and Eddie County indicated that they were going to uh pull out of that agreement. Um at our last LAC meeting, we gave a 60-day grace period um to make some arrangements on that or renegotiate that. Um so, you know, it would put the budget constraints or the budget finalization with the LEC and 911 uh back a bit. Um but we were willing to do that. Nelson and county um it didn't seem to to matter that they wanted to go ahead with their exit out of that joint powers agreements um based on financial decisions on their boards. And so they both had special meetings and decided to

uh leave the joint powers agreement with law enforcement center. Um, so that won't create a financial hardship moving forward for the law enforcement center. I don't think either one of them had the number of of calls for the 911 or the number of inmates um on a daily basis to reduce our staff or reduce our budgets um moving forward. So, uh, law enforcement center will take probably a I don't know dude to 4 thou $400,000 hit moving forward with those both those counties. Um and again it's it's based purely on financial not on service issues or complaints that they had or any benefits they're going to get from moving to other entities. From my understanding, this is purely a financial decision on their part and uh I guess we'll move forward from there. I don't know if you had anything additional that you wanted to add, Blaine.

That's what I got with talking with both representation from the counties. [snorts] financial piece that you know everybody's going to be on budget restraints I believe this coming budget season and they're just starting early and you know with that that's probably something that in the next couple meetings here we're going to probably have to start working on ourselves.

Yeah. I mean, because you get you get this to happen and then that's going to be looking at a couple hundred thousand and with other moving parts that we're going to have, you know, we're going to see some restraints as far as when it comes to the budget. Where are we going to come up with funding and where are we going to cut?

So, I think both entities are looking at going to state radio for their dispatching services. um they feel that they can save some money going that route. I think there's some other um issues that they may may or not have fully looked at. I know state radio will do the dispatching because they are subsidized to state legislature on their 911 fees and their um on their dispatching fees based on the fact that state radio dispatches for highway patrol. um talking to our 911, it's not going to be no concern as far as they would have to lose any employees or anything due to the fact that um we were usually down a couple personnel anyway,

right?

So, [snorts] as far as that goes, it's we're good in that. One of the things that those other counties will have to do from moving from Lake Region Law Enforcement Center 911 dispatch is they will have to hire their own 911 coordinator which uh Lake Region 911 provided that they will also have to reallocate their records management system. That's something that we provided for those entities. Um, and there's a few other things that they're going to have to take on themselves as local counties um, in order to fulfill those obligations. Um, and again, we had given them both entities a grace period of 60 days and I think that still stands with the law enforcement center board of directors. Um, so if they want to change their mind, they certainly can. But as right now that's the direction that they are going.

Is there any questions? Hearing none. We'll move on to the treasure check. Lisa handed Lisa had handed up paper. So basically from the treasure checks looking for a motion of approve. move to approve order. Everything's fine. I mean, that looks good to me. I'll second.

We have a motion. We have a second. All in favor by saying I

I oppose. Same sign. Motion carries. Um at this time visitors delegations anybody [clears throat] hearing none moving on to portfolios? So, we will uh next Monday the 13th at 1:30 is the update on the Devil's Lake operations of the Devil's Lake outlets. It's a public information meeting. That committee was dissolved in the last legislative session as a government reduction measure. Um but DWR has indicated that there's still a strong interest within providing that information to the public up here uh in the Devil's Lake area. So they've agreed to um [laughter] to do that meeting. We've set up uh the Chicago Gallery at Lake Region State College on Monday the 13th of April at 1:30 p.m. Um so the agenda is been out uh came out yesterday afternoon. It looks like uh Devil's Lake Basin overview um National Weather Service situational update. They'll provide an update of uh where we're at with as far as water, what their uh spring flood forecast is uh moving forward from this point on. Uh Department of Water Quality will give an update review of the 2025 water quality review. And everybody remembers last uh

August the outlets were shut down because of water quality constraints in the upper Cheyenne River. Um they have to maintain a two 750 parts per million in the upper parts of the Cheyenne River, 450 below the Cheyenne up below Baldill Dam and then uh within the Red River they have to maintain at 250 parts per mill. um they started noticing increased elevations in July and in early August they decided to shut the outlets off because of water quality constraints. So we'll get an update on that uh DWR uh outlet operations over view. They'll give an update or a summary of 2025 um what they were able to remove and then 2026 outlet infrastructure maintenance updates and then the outlet operation outlook for what this year is going to look like.

Jeff, where are they hosting this meeting at? Shitakqua Gallery in Lake Region State.

[clears throat] And the uh title of the meeting is publicformational meeting 2026 Devil's Lakewood operations.

Is there anything else? I do have a couple announcements. I guess

the airport we decided to move our meeting dates to a later date and uh we used to meet the what was it the second Monday of the month. We're now moved to the third Monday of the month in order for the city to better prepare our financials so we can get uh updated financial records for the airport. airport continues to set uh record number of boardings every month and uh which is a great thing and I don't know if anybody's been by there lately but that parking lot is is usually pretty full. So it's great to see those numbers flying in and up Devil's L utilizing that airport. Anybody else have anything?

I got one question I forgot to ask.

We um we had PS doors come in and put in the new garage door at the shop. Uh you guys probably saw the [clears throat] in or the bill for that there, the bill list. Anyway, long story short, we have an employee up at the uh courthouse here who asked if they could have some of the old pieces off the old door, which which we were going to throw away into the metal dumpster. I just don't know if there's I mean any process to that. I don't want it to look like we're but it's it's garbage to us. It's going in the metal dumpster. I just want to make sure that something like that's okay to to do. I don't know. Never had a request like that, I guess. It's garbage.

It's trash. It's trash. Okay, sounds good. I'll handle that. Thank you.

I guess the other announcement I have here is invitational regional stakeholder meeting. Um they're doing this Thursday, April 9th at the Lake Region State College at Hoffstead Egg Center. Um, basically what it is, North Dakota Health and Human Service Department to discuss the grant opportunities and potential projects that could be included in in the nearly 199 million awarded to Northakota through the Rural Health Transformation Fund program. Um, so feel free. I will not be able to make this. So if one of you guys would like to do this, I will be gone out of town. Guess it's just basically talking how maybe we could be a recipient of some of the way I understood it from Susie. So it's an opportunity if you guys want to take that opportunity I'd appreciate that. Other than that I do not have anything else. Anybody else?

What was the data? I think they said to bring a bag lunch if you'd like lunch. Bring lunch. [snorts] [cough] What you want?