Planning & Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

Monday, April 14, 2025

About this meeting

Government Body
Planning & Zoning Commission
Meeting Type
Planning & Zoning Commission
Location
Prescott Valley, AZ
Meeting Date
April 14, 2025

Transcript

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Good evening. I'd like to call the April 14th Planning and Zoning Commission meeting to order. Commissioner Bordeau, would you lead us in the pledge, please standyice for all. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Sandy Griffith and I'm the chairperson of the planning and zoning commission. I will be presiding over the commission's deliberations on hearing items this evening. The planning and zoning commission sits in an advisory capacity to the town council. As such, the commission reviews planning and zoning issues and forwards recommendations regarding these issues to the council. All members are appointed by town council and volunteer their time. If you wish to speak during the call to the public or on a public hearing item when you are recognized by the clerk, please come to the microphone and state your name and address. I will ask that you direct your pertinent questions to the commission through the chairperson and not to staff or individuals within the audience. A threeinut time limit will be imposed. I understand there are differing viewpoints on this public hearing item this evening. I would like to express in advance the commission's appreciation for fostering an atmosphere of respect

10:58 – 12:48Speaker 1

and cordiality. That's extremely important. This evening's proceedings will be conducted as follows. First, I will read the public hearing item into the record. Staff will then present the agenda item and their recommendations to the commission. The commission will question staff. The applicant will be invited to address the commission and answer questions from the commission. The floor will then be open to comments from the public regarding the hearing item. After the public comment has closed, the item will return to staff for clarification or comment, then back to the commission for comments andor a motion. and vote. Clerk, will you please take roll call? Person Griffith here. Commissioner Bordon here. Commissioner Rutherford here. Commissioner King here. Commissioner Huat here. Commissioner Laney here. Commissioner Herb here. We have a quorum. Thank you, clerk. At this time, call to the public. At this time, any member of the public is allowed to address the planning and zoning commission on any issue within the jurisdiction of the commission except for items scheduled for a public hearing at this meeting. The speaker may have up to three minutes to speak. Clerk, do we have any call to the public speakers? I believe we do, but we were having technical difficulty. So, the only one that got put in was Patricia Betsk, but there may be others that were missed. And Miss

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Betszel. Is this one working? Yes, it is. Okay. Patricia Betso Chino Valley. Um, dear commissioners of the planning and zoning commission, I want to first say we appreciate the time and effort that all of you put in volunteering to act as commissioners. We understand the challenges of making a decision with the best interests of the community at heart based on the information included or should we say not included in the staff reports provided by development services. Um perhaps there are other meetings going on that the public just doesn't isn't privy to that information, but from our perspective, there isn't a lot of information in those staff reports, and we find it difficult to to come to conclusions. Um, what we do know is that in many cases such as Quad City's waste management project or the project we're going to hear later, there's just not enough information provided for us to feel comfortable with the commission making a decision, including today. And we are also confident that the commission is not necessarily aware of all the facts related to the cases, especially when those facts come out really close to the actual meeting. Um, as stated in PB's general plan 2035, unlike individual businesses or activities, communities can never just pack up and move away. They are in it for the long haul. And the decisions we make today, the decisions you'll be voting on will be with us for decades to come, for better or for worse. Um, while Arizona is a property right state or it's known as a property rights state, the state law zoning enabling act of ARS9-462 gives municipalities the power to zone as a tool to protect the public. That uklitian zoning process separates

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incompatible uses, for example, housing from industrial. Um, this has been held up by the US Supreme Court and also by the League of Cities and Town that we use often as a reference here in Prescco Valley. Um, in addition, withholding information from the public robs us from participating in the process, which is our right and without all the information, the commission simply cannot fulfill its mission as set forth before them. Thank you very much. Thank you, Miss Betszel. Are there are there any other speakers that may not have had the opportunity to register that would like to speak a call to the public? Thank you. Agenda item five, announcements. Commissioners, any announcements? I have one I'd like to make. I'd like to welcome with open arms, love, adoration, respect our two new commission members, Miss Brie King and Mr. Joe Huitt. We're pleased and happy to have you. Thank you for donating, volunteering, and giving your time. It means a lot. The minutes. February 10th, 2025 planning and zoning regular meeting minutes. Are there any changes and or a motion for approval? I make a motion to approve. Thank you, Commissioner Herb. Is there a second? I'll second. Thank you, Commissioner Bordon. Voice vote. All in favor? Yay. Yay. Yay. Any nay? Thank you. The

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minutes are approved unanimously. Agenda item seven, public hearing item 7A, ZMC25-00004. Project links. A request for a zoning map change from RU70 residential single family rural to IG industrial general limited for approximately 100 acres APN 401-1-9N Mr. Ernest Ruby Deputy Development Services Director making the presentation. Thank you. now open the public hearing. Thank you, chair uh soon to be vice chair and members of the commission. Thank you. Uh the item before you is a zone map change 25004. And this zone map change uh and I'll explain to you as I go through my presentation also includes a preliminary development plan which is required for any zone map change pursuant to our code. Uh, as you all know, our uh, zoning code was updated and adopted and was uh, valid as of January 11th of this year. So, that's the code we are now following. Uh, staff has had a lot of questions, concerns, letters, emails, things of that nature, both in favor and opposed to this project. A lot of the questions were in regards to the process. What is growth tier one? What is pad 401? How does the resoning procedures work? So with your indulgence, I'd like to go through this uh these processes for you to explain to you and to the citizens how the process works. So with that, I'd like to start with general plan growth tier and development. General plan growth and

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development tier one. Basically, the outline that you see uh on the overhead is the town boundaries, the town limits, if you will. And that area is approximately 26,000 ft or 26,000 acres, sorry about that. Most of which is within the town limits. Um this land is available and appropriate to accommodate the growth and related infrastructure expansion anticipated during the time frame of the general plan. The strategy is to direct growth within town boundaries so that new development occurs in a logical fashion adjacent to existing development and creates logical extensions of infrastructure. And that being said, uh we can see on the uh growth tier one map which is before you that this area pad 41 is in the upper right hand corner of the town boundaries. It is within the town boundaries and was actually annexed into the town. Uh let me get to 41. This is uh general plan pad 41 approximately 1575 acres south of 89A. It includes mixed uses, includes rural related business services, provides diverse housing opportunities for area workers and is a mix of fairground racetrack uses, business park and offices. Uh it also could accommodate hotels, resorts, regional, community, commercial, open space and medium to medium high density residential. Now the proposed zoning uh of this property uh is

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from RC uh RC70 which is rural 70 acre 70 uh 70,000 square foot minimums to the IG industrial uh general limited zone. Now in the industrial limited zone uh it is intended to provide manufacturing development, wholesale and commercial uses with the heaviest impacts which while not necessarily attractive in operational appearances are installed and operated in compliance with all government standards and in a way that does not cause inconvenient to other uses in the zoning district to the uh to the adjacent zoning district. One thing to uh remember about the pad 41 zone is that it is within the town boundaries. It is adjacent to existing infrastructure and uh it is available for development at this time. The size of um pad 41 is as I mentioned is approximately 1575 acres. It is uh south of 89A and adjacent to the fairground complex. This includes a mixed use for the character of the area and that character is to include support services for the race racetrack and the fairgrounds, rural related business services and diverse housing opportunities for area workers. Now the land uses in pad 41 uh are support uses for the racetrack and the fairgrounds, business park and offices, hotels and support uses, resorts, regional commercial, open space and medium to medium high density residential. Now, keep in mind this is a mix of uses that

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could go into the area, not necessarily that those are what it would be zoned to. The actual zoning in the area is RC. Here you can see the uh the project link site is approximately 100 acres and the area that surrounds it is uh developed to some extent but uh basically vacant to other in other areas. Now the vicinity map here uh for the zone map change 250004 shows that it's approximately 100 acres. The re the required PDP that goes with this uh zone map change is approximately well less than 20 acres 19.23 23 acres and that would be on the southern boundary of the pink I guess it is rectangle that you see now the zoning in the vicinity it's been mentioned that maybe this wasn't an appropriate use for this area based on the existing compatible uses as you can see here to the right of this project is the green area which is public lands that public lands uh project and this whole area was actually annexed in 2001. The 197 acres that comprises the public lands area as the fairgrounds was changed to public lands from the county designation of RCU2A in October of 2001. And one of the things I'd like to mention is anytime the town annexes a property, it is annexed to the to the most comparable zoning designation that it comes in from the county. In this case, this area is surrounded by the RCU or RC2UA district, which is 2 acre minimum

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in the county. Our closest zoning designation would be the RC70 designation or 70,000 square foot lots approximately an acre and three quarters. Um, subsequent to the reszoning for the public lands for the fairgrounds, the red square that you see on the map is uh a commercial pad. This was reszoned in uh from the PL lands to minor industrial planned area development on that 12 acres that you see there. To the south of this project you can see is a Yavapai County facility which includes the medical examiner's office or the morg. It also includes office facilities for the county as well as an impound yard. And to the to the west you see the track there uh that the county utilizes for uh some of their employees. Um as you can see superimposed here is the project site in white. You can see it's adjacent to County Trail or County Fair Trail uh across the street from the Knackard's warehouse distribution facility and just north of the county facilities. Um as we move along here, we see that uh we're it's time to talk about what our resoning procedure is. uh mentioned to you the tier one analysis uh and then the uh project or the pad 41 analysis and the uh the tier one is is designated for those areas of of the general plan that are within the town boundaries adjacent to existing development and

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infrastructure. Pad 41 is breaking that down from the 10,000 ft level of the tier one uh designation to the pad 41 at about 100 ft. So it goes into a little bit more detail. Subsequent to that is our reasonzoning procedure and I'd like to go through that with you because it was modified slightly with our uh development code update. So in the uh in the code section 1314060 are the reasonzoning procedures and section 8 talks about the section shall apply to all applications for reszoning including without limitation applications for reszoning to PD planned area development. The applicant shall submit a proposed preliminary development plan to the development services department with the application for reszoning. Some of the confusion has been with the terminology preliminary development plan because in our uh old code the preliminary development plan came to planning and zoning commission with your recommendations. It went to town council as a final development plan. That procedure has changed a little bit. So, I'd like to continue to go through that. And where you see that preliminary development plan, I italicized, we think a better description would be a concept design plan because that's basically what it is. It it's uh kind of laying out the concept, the design for the project for the reszone. Now as we move on, section B1 indicates that the proposed development plan shall include maps, depictions, drawings, and associated text prepared by or on behalf of the application or the applicant in support of the application. It also goes on to say, "At the resoning hearing on the application, where we are at today,

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the commission shall review the application and the proposed preliminary development plan/concept development plan and determine whether to recommend approval of the application considering all matters pertinent to the application, including without limitation the following. that the proposed preliminary development plan, concept development plan, if you will, will constitute an environment of sustained desiraability, stability, and that it will be in harmony with the character of the surrounding developments and neighborhoods consistent with the general plan and this chapter. Two, to the extent to which the value or use of the property adjacent to the proposed resoning will be adversely affected by the proposed preliminary development plan or concept development plan. The commission at this time may request that the applicant modify, alter, adjust, or amend the preliminary development plan uh concept development plan for consistency with the objectives of the general plan and this chapter. And at the conclusion of this public hearing, the commission shall make a recommendation to the council to approve or deny the application. Mr. Ruby. Yes, ma'am. Just a question on terminology and wording in as much as preliminary development plan is already embedded in the code, correct? The zoning code. How are we going to communicate or transfer or bring in new terminology concept design plan which by the way I do like but how are we going to tie these together? Thank you for the question madam chair. What we intend to do moving forward is to make a

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modification to our uh chapter 13 to replace preliminary development plan with the concept design plan. Uh and one thing to note at this time as we move forward and look at additional phases in this 100 acre reszone because as you know the preliminary development plan for phase one is approximately 19.3 acres 19.23 acres for this particular development. Each subsequent development according to our code will require a similar preliminary development plan that will come before the commission for your review and recommendation and it will be forwarded to council for their final approval or denial at that time. So uh each phase will be will stand on its own. I have one more question on that concept design plan. Will that be an administrative change in the code or will that have to go through the whole P&Z and town council approval for some word changes? Chair and commission, I I would like to just read to you what the uh code says and it actually says each phase will be subject to the same requirements. PDS or planned area development properties in each PD re are regulated based on site specific regulations. Each PD preliminary development plan concept development plan is adopted through the resoning process set forth in article 1314 which is what we're doing here today. So moving forward, each phase will go through the same strenuous uh requirements that will come back before the commission for your recommendation and conditioning to move forward then to council for their final approval. Hopefully that answers your question. Okay. Um moving right along. This is the

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section for I'm sorry. Go ahead, commissioner. Um yes. So on page two of the staff report that we have, bullet two, it says that the reasonzoning of this parcel allows for potential development of this area. Pardon, sorry, it's bullet one. My apologies. Each subsequent phase in this area will require preliminary development plan to be heard by town council for final approval, but it does not mention that it's going to be come before this commission. Okay. um that will require it to come before the commission prior to it going to uh town council. Okay. So then I would request please that for the minutes for when we approve them for next meeting that we can include for this bullet that will also come before the planning and zoning commission. Please. Yes ma'am. Absolutely. Thank you for bringing that up. So this section here is for the commission with commission's duties, responsibilities and recommendations would be moving forward to council. The same section starting with F states that the council after recommendation from the commission. The council shall hold at least one public hearing on the application in compliance with the Arizona revised statute. goes on to say that the council approval of an application and in in quotation marks there or in uh it's for resoning. So the council approval and application for resoning includes approval of the preliminary development plan. So that means that part and parcel of the reszone process is that each and every application in a pad will be required to have a PDP part of that zone map change but that would go to council and that also applies according to the code for

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every subsequent phase. So for example, this is phase one. If there's a subsequent phase two, three, four, each one will be subject to the same requirements to come before you as a commission and then will then be forwarded to the council with your recommendation and conditions. So, uh, that being said, this is what the council is is required to do and I think we covered F2, council approval and application for resoning includes approval of the preliminary development plan. Three says except and to the extent council's approval expressly states otherwise. Compliance with the approved preliminary development plan is a standard condition of council approval for any application for reszoning. So that's a little bit of change from our previous plan or code zoning code which required if you recall the PDP approved by the planning and zoning commission which was then forwarded to uh town council for a final development plan. This is the the update to the code and this is the new standard that procedure that we we will be following. G states that during the public hearings on the resoning, the commission may recommend and/or the council may impose reasonable conditions of the reszone to lessen any negative impacts of the reasonzoning after council approval. And here's one of the differences. After a council approval, the approved preliminary development plan/concept design plan will be deemed an official plan and the town clerk shall record it in the office of the Yavapai County Recorder and maintain one or more copies in the town's official files. So after your recommendation on

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this particular zone map change which includes the requisite preliminary development plan slashdesign concept plan uh it would be forwarded to council once council makes a determination on that what uh it'll do it'll be recorded. Now one of the questions that might be asked is what comes subsequent to that? What comes subsequent to that is the engineering documents all the uh uh engineering documents that are required including approval of a traffic impact analysis drainage and grading and all the requisite utility studies that might be required for that project. that will be done uh by the town engineers approval after the the council approves the preliminary development plan or the concept design plan whatever you want to call it. Um now as we move on let's talk a little bit about this project itself. First of all it's 100 acres that is being asked to be reszoned from the RU70 current designation to industrial general. Now, uh you might ask why industrial general? Well, there's a uh definition of industrial general that talks about what the zone is intended to to do. And it's intended to provide locations for manufacturing development, wholesale, and commercial uses with the heaviest impacts. And it was determined here that probably the heaviest impact would be traffic. That county fair trail uh did not meet the standards for an industrial collector. The town engineer uh through the TIA in conversation with the applicant has been working on those

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standards and what they will be. So it's not like uh the preliminary TIA which I believe was part of your packet uh will be the final document. It will not. It will be refined to the approval and the consent of the town engineer. So that's a little bit about how that thing will move forward. Uh let's talk a little bit about the site plan. Uh the site building is approximately 86,800 square ft. It has access on County Fair Trail with strategic entrances on that side. Parking provided is 398 spaces where the code requirement was 394. The project will have extensive landscaping with the 10- foot uh required buffer on county fair trail. All species will be lowwater use and drought tolerant off of the Prescuit AMA approved planting list and additional landscaping will be provided around the building and along the entrance. Mr. Ruby. Um, back to the landscaping. I'm sure that that will be an approved item and the developer will use an appropriate landscape architect to come up with that plan and design. Madame Chair, members of the commission, our code requires a registered landscape architect to provide those landscape plans. So that will be part of the approval process as it moves forward to the next stage and that will be required prior to uh council review. The building itself will be 33 feet high. Our code allows 35 ft in any zoning district. So uh the call for this

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building being at 33 feet is within our code requirements. Now, there was a uh there was a comment in one of the letters, I believe, about floor area ratio for this building and that it could be up to 1.0. Well, floor area ratio is measured by the square footage of the building divided by the square footage of the parcel. And in this particular case, with the 86,000 foot building, 86,800t building on approximately 19.23 23 acres. That floor area ratio is not 1.0. It's actually 0.1. So, just a correction on something that was previously stated. The building itself will be concrete with 10 loading docks. Ingress, egress will be off of County Fair Trail. And you can see the pallet of colors that will be utilized for this building. Now, this is also in an area and we've uh contacted the uh Arizona Game and Fish. They provided this map for us which looks at this area. As you can see, the yellow uh rectangle in the box to the to the right there is in the green hatched area. This is actually a wildlife diffuse area where the wildlife uh may or may not enter and and move. The blue hatched area is the wildlife crossing area. This is actually an area that needs to be identified so that animals have an area to cross from the diffuse area. One of the things that development services is currently doing is working on a wildlife corridor plan which will address the both the need and the size for wildlife corridor in this area. So that's something that we're working on. We're hoping to have that

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back uh for public consumption if you will uh in third quarter maybe fourth quarter of this year. So that will actually identify areas. We're working with a firm uh that will help provide that the expertise that we need to identify those areas. So that's one of the things that we're doing at this point. So we are looking at the wildlife corridor area. We know this project is within that diffuse area for wildlife. We want to make sure that we identify it and we identify corridors for the animals to be able to uh tr transgress this area. So that being said, what are the next steps for this project? Well, next step is based on your recommendation and any conditions that you may impose on the project. Next step will be to town council for the project consideration uh of your recommendations. that will include a final traffic impact analysis, building and engineering permit submitted for review and approval by the town engineer. Um, I'd be glad to answer any questions you have. The uh attorney for the representative is here as well as some agents uh of the company and the town engineer is here to ask any specific engineering questions that you might have in regard to the project. Uh, and with that, I'll open it up to questions. Mr. Ruby, job well done. Thank you, sir. Commissioners, do we have any questions for Mr. Ruby? We'll start down at this end. Miss Rutherford. Oh, I I think it's relatively complete. Thank you, Commissioner Bordon. Uh, thank you for a very good presentation. I appreciate that you went over kind of the changes in code because that did happen over the last year. So, it's nice to kind of see in the context of of this application how we proceed.

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So, um you envision two approvals tonight, one separated from the other, right? Okay. Thank you for asking that question, Commissioner. Uh no, uh and I forgive me, I should have mentioned it. Uh the action item, which is a PDP for this project, is not required. Uh it shouldn't have been noticed that way. it is one approval because as I mentioned earlier the zone map change requirements require that PDP to be a component of that. So it'll be one motion as you move forward. Yeah. I just wanted to clarify that. Second thing is um thank you for a very good package. It was put together well. We always catch something. But it it's I wanted to make a comment that, you know, you guys put together good packages and I I do a lot of work elsewhere. You guys turn in to the commission very early. You give us this, I think, 10 days ahead of time. So, I really appreciate it because it makes it very easy on people like us who are volunteering to review the materials. So, thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Appreciate that. And just as a followup, you're absolutely correct. We have to send the packets out uh 10 days ahead of time so that you can receive those. Those go out to the public and there's invariably additional comments uh letters of uh opposition, letters of uh in favor of the project that come in after that. Uh as a matter of fact, I believe in your you were handed out one of the letters of uh in favor of the project. Uh that wasn't the only one. that was from the uh owner of the RV park. We also received a letter today from the owner of the fairgrounds in favor of the project. Uh there was also a letter in opposition that was circulated to you. Uh so we tried to present both fair sides of of an application when it comes in. No, I just

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I just want to make sure you I appreciate it because not only do I get the applica the the information from community development services through the clerk's office early, but you do feed any information in a prompt manner that comes in. So, thank you. It's really helpful from a review perspective. Thank you, sir. Commissioner Herb, any questions of Mr. Ruby? Yes, I do. I actually have one. It's more of a clarifying question for my education audience might want to know this as well. Uh earlier in your description of the process and how these will proceed and eventually end up at council for approval of the preliminary design plan. How binding is that preliminary design plan once uh council has approved that? Um relative to now we move forward with uh engineering analysis, drainage packages, building permits, middle for review, being an engineer myself, very often we go through conceptual design plans and they change. They change because the developer makes changes. the the client in the end user wants to make a change. So will that is that allowed number one if the council has approved that preliminary design plan and does it have to come back to us and start that process over? Thank you for the question commissioner. Very good question by the way. Um the preliminary development plan or concept design plan uh has to be in significant conformance with the engineering documents and those will be reviewed by the town engineer who will review them not only for their adequacy but also for the content uh within the plan itself but uh impacts to the town uh infrastructure. So water utilities, sewer utilities uh may change based on engineering as you know. Uh there may be a line that needs to be

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moved because of conflicts. Uh there may be hopefully not hopefully it's been identified by that time of the preliminary development plan but uh whether a line would need to be relocated upsized if you will to accommodate potential additional growth in the area. So, it's it's a significant conformance to the original plan as determined by the town engineer. Thank you, Commissioner Laney. Always forget my microphone. Thank you, Ernest. This was an amazing packet. It was one of the better ones we've had for quite some time. And I also would like to compliment you on the presentation which is easier for the public to understand because it's important that the public understands what we're doing and that they know they have input. So I want to thank you for that. Thank you ma'am. Commissioner Huad. Yes. Uh thank you again for a great package. Uh I I echo what Commissioner Bordon says and I think Commissioner Herbs stole a little bit my thunder there with that question. Uh but following up to his question with the um uh preliminary design plan, um I know we've got some information regarding the uh preliminary traffic impact. I know there were some questions and some concerns with the community about uh traffic. Um uh will there be um somewhat of an off-site preliminary plan included with the preliminary design plan? And the reason why I ask I know there's adequate rideway there's about 100 foot rightway for that for the road county fair road or county fair trail but um it'd be nice to kind of see something ahead of time um that kind of uh addresses the development as a whole.

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Sometimes they forget a little bit about the off-site improvements and then when they get in the middle of everything, they go, you know, everybody throws their hands up and they either need additional rideway. Maybe not the case here with the 100 foot rideway. Quite a bit of room for the improvements, but I wondered if there'd be a that would the off-site improvements would be included in a preliminary. Thank you for the question, Commissioner. Uh what I'd like to do is ask the town engineer to come up. He was in recent conversations with the applicant uh engineer on the TIA and uh as recently as today they had conversations. John, can you maybe address that please? Good evening chair and commission. Um thank you very much for the question. You were asking about off-site improvements and we did include in the conditions uh condition number four uh the develop the developer will be required to have an approved traffic impact analysis finalized with any off-site improvements by the town engineer. So we have already identified potentially what those off-site improvements could be. Um, we're taking a look at what would be needed to improve County Fair Trail, but also State Route 89A and the intersection at the intersection of State Route 89A and Robert Road. We have been talking with ADOT and we're reviewing the TIA with them. Uh we did request some additional information from the applicant and their engineer and we just received that and we're working with them on getting enough information so that uh we can identify what those off-site improvements would be. The schedule here for the project just didn't really allow us enough time to get that kind of information in the packet and that's why it was not there. Thank you. Commissioner King, any questions of Mr. Ruby? Yes, please. Thanks, chair. Uh,

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thank you, Mr. Ruby, for your presentation. I very much you appre, uh, speaking to the pong horn. Um, that's a a big deal for our community and the wildlife here and something that is very important and what we pride ourselves on as um, Prescat Valians. So, thank you for that. Um, I want to kind of take a step back here and talk about something that's a little bit more general that relates to the code itself, the general plan and how this language is working and and fitting in. So, my understanding from the the 2035 general plan is this sits under pad 41, correct? And the definition under pad 41 explains, and it's also on page five of the project narrative, but it reads that this is a mixeduse area that includes support services for fairground, racetrack, rural related business services, and diverse housing opportunities for area workers. So I'm having difficulty understanding how we are slotting industrial use into this pad 41 description per the GP to that or you I can go further if if you like but you want to start there. Let me give it a stab. If I and if I don't answer you properly, please feel free to stop me and make me go in the right direction. Uh this area has a mixture of uses under PAD 41 which could range anywhere as you said from

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commercial to uh light industrial and the IG zone, the industrial general zone is the uh lightest industrial zone in our code. We also have an industrial heavy zone which is more for heavy type manufacturing, big polluters if you will, traffic generators, things of that of that nature. But within this mix of uses in 41, uh it could range for anything from the business park that we are endeavoring to move forward here to residential housing. And if we look at it from the residential housing uh impacts, it could be up to 15 units per acre. And the water allocation, the water usage for 15 units per acre is significantly higher than an industrial type use like this, a warehouse distribution. So those are the things we'd look at. Now, it doesn't mean that within this 1575 acres, there wouldn't be a residential component. it would have to be first of all uh annexed into the town because as you saw this area uh there's a lot of vacant land Arizona State Trust land surrounding this area. So when that came in to the town if it was annexed it would come in at the same zoning designation uh comparable to what the county is. So it' be the RC 70,000 foot minimum uh lots that would be required. Now in terms of what uses could go in there, it would be sight specific, project specific. So each use that came in would be required to undergo the same reasonzoning process, the same pad process with the same documentation that's occurring for this project in terms of preliminary development plan or preliminary TIA, preliminary drainage grading, etc. into

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a finalized plan that would be reviewed by the town engineer for consistency with town code and also the general plan. Did did I cover that or am I lacking? No, you're you're you're doing good. It's it's it's hoping and a lot of this too is to get this out to the community so that they can understand they can understand how we are actually taking something that's a RU and pushing it into an IG right and what that looks like. So, but the ask here is not for the only the 20 acres. The ask here is for 100 acres. So, it's not specific to what the ask is. The ask is a 100 acres. So, we might need to get a little bit more information on, you know, from from the developer or whatnot who I believe is here to speak or um the attorneys on the project. But I think that's important just to note that the ask is to change 100 acres to IG from the RU. And so if you look at the definition of the um from the town code of what industrial general limited is which we've stated here but it does read that while not necessarily attractive in operational appearances are installed and operated in compliance with all governmental standards and in a way that does not cause inconvenience to other uses in the zoning. district or to adjacent zoning districts. Right? So if we then take that a step further and we say okay what are other uses within the zoning district and the adjacent zoning districts what we see that you can also look on um it's on page on the of the project narrative on page

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six the adjacent zoning districts in the north is RCU residential single single family rule. In the east, residential single family rule. In the south, it's residential single family rule. Now, in the west, we have a little bit of movement there, right? But the point is is that per IG, it says it says not cause inconveniences to other uses in the zoning district or adjacent zoning districts. And three of the four adjacent zoning districts are marked as residential currently. Right. Rural residential. Yes, ma'am. Residential. Right. Right. Okay. So to me, a facility like this could possibly put inconveniences on these other districts. And then if you take that another step further, yes, to the west which we are emphasizing here, right? That there is the minor commercial minor industrial. Right. Right. Okay. So the commercial minor industrial has readings that says and situated so that highway frontage does not present a poor image of the community and this project at issue right now project links butts up to the highway frontage. So IG is a lesser or is a a greater more substantial zoning than is commercial miner which there is from the Pepsi bottling plant. Right. But the ask here

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is to put this 100 acres onto the frontage road with an IG standard which is heavier and higher. I'm going to get myself some water than a commercial industrial which requires it to be buffered. Can you speak to the frontage road a little bit and how it butts up to the highway and then additionally the inconveniences that it might put into play for these other residential districts? Absolutely, Commissioner King. Thank you for the question. Um the 100 acres request is to reszone the property. This particular plan development preliminary development plan design concept plan is for the lower 20 acres. Uh it's not fronting the highway itself. The project is not. The reason is and as I mentioned earlier, each phase of the project will come back before the commission and the council for review as to their adequacy for things like traffic impacts, beautifification along the highway, whether a 500 foot buffer is required along 89A or whatever whatever number is determined would be adequate type of screening, types of uses will be considered. So, so yes, the the request is to reszone the 100 acres to an IG designation. It doesn't mean that it's going to be those those uses. We went over earlier the types of uses that could be allowed in this district uh both PAT 41 and the zoning district IG within the IG designation. You're absolutely correct. It could have some more intense uses and I think that's where you were going with that. But each

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one of those phases, each one of those uses would be subject to the same type of review uh by the commission and the recommendation to the council. So for example, you wouldn't see a nuclear power plant going along 89A because of the type of use. Uh you probably wouldn't see anything like a industrial solar farm or anything of that nature in that area. what you will see are comparable uses to the use that's being uh asked for in the plan development uh or the preliminary development plan. So again the review process is is what's going to determine what real uses go there and what impacts they have and what conditions may be applied to that particular use. Um, one thing to note is, you're right, the red uh square that we see in this vicinity zoning is a commercial pad. Uh, they were reszoned, I believe I said, in 2007 to that use. Uh, could this have been a commercial pad? Conceivably, but would have been on the high end of our performance manufacturing zone. It would have been kind of iffy there. it fell right in within this IG designation. Um, and we can speak a little bit more to that. The attorney for the applicant is here who prepared that and we can get some of of his thoughts on why the IG was requested as opposed to performance manufacturing if I'm understanding you right. Yeah. No, I think that would be I think that would be very helpful. I do think that the the commercial um minor industrial we could fit or try to fit into right this this definition of what the character is and land uses is for pad 41 but I'm having a hard time

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squeezing in the IG portion of it and so I would like um to to hear a little bit more about that um I if if we right continue to to say it's IG. I just want it to be addressed as to what inconveniences or not inconveniences or what we would do to protect the conveniences of the other other districts to the north, east and south and then also a partial of the west. Right? So just making sure that this project or self it itself fits within this general plan description of such property because it could fit in pad 62. And uh in the definition of this uh pad 41 it mentions that in the rationale that mix of uses allows compatibility with adjacent land uses and provides maximum convenience for proposed pad 62 workers. So it specifically designates that there are other areas in the town that that are to help with workers jobs which that's a lot of um right what the staff report is based upon but there is a place for that and it's a little bit lower towards the east side but it is mentioned there within this general plan. Thank you for the question. I'd like to respond before I call up Shane Ross the attorney from Tiffany Bosow who represents the applicant. I'd like to point out to you on the map itself that the dark brown area is within town limits. That is actually annexed of the town. So that is the RCU70 districts that surround that to the east to the north and and to the to the west there. Those are still uh not within the the town limit. So those would have to be annexed into the town

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for whatever use was going to go into that area. They would be annexed in at the closest zoning designation to the county. So they'd be designated RC70 70,000 square foot minimum. So as it was annexed in each one would probably require a reszone to whatever particular zoning use was was being requested. So in terms of the surrounding uses, the surrounding uses are whatever would be uh annexed into the town and whatever request is made for that surrounding land use. Now, it's it's not to say it couldn't be industrial uh or commercial or residential, but in pointing out that uh you know there's low impacts uh for this type of project in that area, would they uh actually have a detriment, if you will, to surrounding uses? We've looked at the uses immediately surrounding this area. Uh it's unclear what the uh county uh designations other than the RCU 2A would be the 2acre minimums, but as they came into the town, as they were annexed into the town, they would most likely have a reasonzone accompanying that to whatever specific use they were asking for. Hopefully that answers your question, but I'd like to call uh up. Oh, sure. Sure. Go ahead. I was just going to Mr. Ruby to that point. That is correct. Right. So under R you playing fair here right for for both sides here right so it is classified that for RU is there's a consistent holding pattern for RU in that area based upon the general plan and what the vision is within the general plan. RU though is defined as classification for all areas of the town not presently characterized by urban users. Right? So, there's a potential for it to be precaracterized into a

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different zoning um bracket, right? So long as it's consistent with the GP. Correct. Okay, Mr. Ruby, before we bring Mr. Ross up, please one just uh Commissioner Herb has a question for you and I just wanted to confirm uh in the narrative the property to the north and east is vacant. It's undeveloped land. Yes. At this point. Yes, ma'am. At this point. Perfect. So, I I couldn't put two and two together to get any inconsistencies or problems with this particular zoning affecting vacant land. You are correct. Thank you. So, Commissioner Herb. Yes. I wanted to make sure I understood the RU70 uses again. Did I hear either in your or other commissioner's description light industrial and rcu is allowed or or did I hear some did that incorrectly? Uh commissioner, no the RU district is rural residential. Uh our designation 70 uh is the uh minimum square footage per parcel. So that would be 70,000 square foot for a res residential use. uh the industrial use would be what it if it was reszoned to industrial that would be the use on that particular parcel. I believe earlier and and forgive me if if I misunderstood when earlier you were listing all the uses allowed within that are you saying the uses that you listed earlier for the IG no or the RU70 are well it's for the pad 41 41 there's a character of that area there's a list of mixed uses that could go into that area I mean this could be community

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commercial we could have a resort built on that, you know, on that parcel if the uh applicant at the time developer felt that that was appropriate for that area. So, it could be a mix of uses that range anywhere from uh whatever is allowed in the IG district uh and in pad 41. I understand. Okay. Thank you. So, Mr. Ruby, I had three questions for you. Mr. Herb, Commissioner Herb took one. Commissioner Huat took the second one and Commissioner King took my third question. So kudos to you. So you're saved. You have a great commission. We do. So um any other questions, Commissioner? Right. Okay. Perfect. We'd love to Yes, Commissioner Rutherford. If I can find the I wondered if it might be a good time to mention the practicality of this location that Prescat Valley has lost employment opportunities by not having a suitable site for more distribution centers And a flat land of this size is pretty rare in Prescat Valley. This is one of the only places where this sort of a use could go to my knowledge. Big Sky couldn't take it. None of the existing industrial places have a large enough area for it. And if we are to grow and have

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employment opportunities, we need to be expanding the areas where this can happen. Thank you for your comments, Commissioner Rutherford. This is exactly what uh staff felt was appropriate for this location. The infrastructure is in place, so it doesn't have to be extended over a great length uh for sewer, for water. Uh there are some improvements that need to be made to the roadways, but in terms of planning for future projection, future jobs, uh future uh ability for people to uh for developers to look at this as a business park that could be maybe a supply chain for some of the uh projects that are going on in the North Valley in Phoenix. uh being able to have a uh an ability to siphon off some of those indirect jobs uh as a supply chain provider. That's kind of what was looked at. Uh it is IG in in designation, but it's not envisioned to be a heavy manufacturing facility area, which would go into our heavy industrial zone. It's looked at as a potential business park with the addition of of jobs. uh for the area jobs which are critically needed. Uh so that was kind of the thought process behind that. Thank you for your comments. Thank you, Mr. Ruby. We'll be happy to Sure. If I may. Oh, certainly. Commissioner King very vocal today. Since we're on the topic of jobs, I would like to address that issue here. Um we do say that the vision for this includes creating more jobs. Commissioner King, excuse me one second. I know that the Amazon rep is with us this evening, the

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representative, and I think that might be a question better served for that particular person. Go to you, sir. Thank you. You're welcome. Were there any questions on the uh from the applicant's attorney regarding the uh provision of the I IG designation? Did you want to follow up on that, Commissioner King? Uh, and what the intent was for identifying that particular zone bought it to speak. That's fine. Yes. Good evening, Madam Chair, commissioners. For the record, Shane Ross, Tiffany and Bosco, 2525 East Camelback Road in Phoenix. Um, thank you for the opportunity for me to to come up and I'm happy to provide some more um a little more description as far as why we're proposing Industrial General on the site and answer any questions as well on behalf of the applicant uh VTRE Development LLC who's putting this this project uh before you tonight. Um I first, you know, before I get into I do have a little bit of a presentation as well. I'll skip ahead to to answer your questions. Um but I do want to to thank Mr. Ruby for for such a wonderful presentation as well. I agree with with uh your comments as well up here. Very comprehensive overview of what we're proposing. Um and again, thank you to the town, especially the staff for taking a look at our application, making comments to our application, and really helping us move move forward in the right direction. Uh so, thank you all who are involved so far and making this um a proposal that we hope to uh to make happen. Um, bear with me just a second as I load my presentation up here. I'm not super familiar with the technology up here. I think it will help with my explanation.

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What is your drive? Thank you so much. All right. So, we'll we'll skip ahead a little bit to what we're proposing. And I I did want to introduce my client, Van Trrust, VTRE Development LLC. Uh my client is a national full-scale real estate development company. We um very excited to to represent them. Uh they are a quality industrial developer. Um based in Kansas City originally u but we have a very strong Arizona presence with the regional office in Phoenix. Um these numbers are are important to to realize that we're we're dealing with a very quality um partner in development for the town. Uh with 115 industrial properties developed representing 58 million plus square feet of industrial development and that's $4.7 billion in total industrial development volume. So, we really are are partnering with a a great company here that's uh ready and willing to put forth a quality product that that hopefully the town uh is is great for the town, great for the residents of the town as well. So, I did want to mention that first. I'm going to go over this pretty quickly because we Mr. Ruby did a great job already introducing our project, but you can see the town boundaries in blue here. This is the Yavabai County parcel map. So, uh, just an overall view of of the, um,

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you know, the the parcels that are adjacent to us that we have to be cognizant of as we discuss our our land use goals and and our reszoning goals. And just a little closer in view of our site compared with the surrounding uses around us. You can see the state of Arizona uh, owns the land just to the west of us and private land owners to the north as well as the northeast. and with the uh the the the parcels to the east are the industrial commercial zone properties uh who are complimentary of our project and are are in support of our project as well. So I did want to just kind of go back over this map as well, the the tier one prioritized development map for land use uh for the county. And you know our our area here the the pad 41 this kind of whitish color where our proposed site is what it is and and we can go over the the language as well. It's it really prioritizes innovation in commercial and industrial development. So when an applicant puts forward the proposal that includes some of those uses the there's some flexibility there in in what we can actually put forward with our project. Um there are some complimentary uses along with the the commercial and public uh interest sites to the east of us. Um but we there is some flexibility there with the the land use map. And again the the reason we we talked about in great lengths but we are looking for a reszone for industrial general and you can see the surrounding uses there on this map too. And I I did want to just bring this slide to your attention as well. the the the portion of the site that we're activating is a 19.11 acre site, 19.2 or so acre site for a delivery center. And we'll go into a little more detail of what that is, but essentially for e-commerce related uses, a delivery

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center is where if you ordering a package online, you are you're basically getting a package that rece is received at this facility first the day of before it's delivered to your home where it's unloaded from a truck, rerouted to the proper vehicle to then be rerouted to your your address and dropped off at your home or or business. So, it's it's a delivery facility for packages. Um, that's what this this proposed site um is is and what my my client is looking to to move forward here. So, that's what the preliminary development plan idea is along with our reszone for the full 100 acres. Um, but I did want to give some context to the scale of the site compared to the full 100 acres and and the setbacks here. Now, this is um this is um Commissioner King, just to answer your question a little more specifically about why are we going with an industrial general category over maybe a commercial uh category. You know, we looked at um first of all the the land use as we talked about, you know, allows some flexibility there with a a business park use which includes commercial and industrial uses. Mr. Ruby did a great job of of introducing that subject. As you kind of delve into what type of uses are allowable within a business park type of use, you look at, you know, what what exactly are we proposing? We're proposing a delivery facility um for wholesaling, for packaging, and those categories are sort of captured in industrial A and industrial C. This is this is right from the town code um within the industrial general category for for uses that are allowed on site. Um, and so we we we saw that we in order to maximize the the potential site to capitalize on job opportunities for this proposed use for our our delivery center as well as adjacent potential future

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phases of the site. Industrial general was was the best category that really fit into to our narrative um to really drive that home and and and do what's best for the town. But those two uses specifically really fit into industrial general more than any other category of proposed uh zonings that were allowed on this property. So I did want to bring that to your attention. Um I'm going to go a little out of order here. These are some of the conditions of approval for our project that we're fully cooperating with the town and and look forward to u to moving forward on. Um and we can get back to that. Um, Commissioner King, I'm going to to skip ahead as well to a little bit more color to your slides to your question, excuse me. So, I let's take one more step back with the with the the PAD PA ADS generally again provides greater degree of flexibility and encourages innovation in commercial industrial development. And PAD 41 specifically does allow the mix of uses including a business park use. So that is really our our idea with this proposed reszone. And so the this business park designation, it's intended to provide locations where major employment centers and uses can can take place in in an attractive environment. So it's it's here for a variety of uses, wholesale and storage warehouses, packaging of goods, as I mentioned already. Um, and this is really this is right from the from the the um land general plan for the town which is allowable. And as you kind of narrow in what's possible on this site, you look to see the general plan consistency with the zoning. And you can identify and Commissioner King you kind of identified there there may be some other kind of overlapping zoning categories that that maybe we could have utilized on the site which if you look to the left on the left hand side you can see that if you follow the business

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park line to the right you can see that C3 and this is from the old code the C3 PM and M1 M1 is now the general industrial category uh do fit into that business park category and here's the three that you kind of can narrow narrow it down to commercial minor industrial zone. This is the the the Nackard facility uh to the east of us. And the purpose of this zone is to preserve areas for for wholesaling, warehousing, light manufacturing. It sounds kind of similar to to what I'm I'm up here describing. Um what I think is is different from that use is that um there there there's a significant buffer requirement for commercial industrial for adjacent residential uses. And within this area, we're we're proposing a a business park use. If you look at the the map, there there really aren't a purely adjacent uses surrounding us. We have the commercial uses to the south of us. We have a commercial industrial use to the east of us with the public lands uses to the to the east of them who are fully supporting our project. And the full 100 acre reszone is is going to be just that. It's going to be a business park use. um and and we're looking to maximize that site. So, we didn't quite find that not only was there residential areas that we really didn't need to uh to kind of fit in um to to create those additional buffers, but also we we are looking to to capitalize on um on those uses that my client is proposing that that uh delivery facility where the packaging the the wholesaling uses are are required within the general and allowed within the general uh industrial use. Um that next category down just just to continuing to go over it, performance manufacturing and kind of another similar type use that you can kind of see like hey you know maybe this is one that's maybe fits better you know and and maybe isn't as quite a um intense use as int industrial general if

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if you think about it. But again, this is this is a performance u business type use where there are some restrictions on odors, noise, glare, vibration, nuisances that might be um you know produced on site that uh adjacent residential communities would have to be aware of and would have to be uh mitigated against. Um again, we didn't find that um based on our um you know, analysis that residential communities are going to be impacted by what we're proposing and what the the plan is for the business park use. Um and also we we it it's not quite the the the right uh zoning for this business park. It's it's really limiting your uses for more performance manufacturing type uh type businesses, which we want to keep it a little bit more flexible. And so industrial general is that last category. Um, and again, it's, you know, it it does kind of um sound a little bit easier um to manage, but um it was one where there there wasn't a residential buffer requirement. Uh it it was able we were able to maximize the zoning on the site. Really truly put forth a narrative that um put puts this business park uh zoning to the forefront to allow our our our client to um propose a building that would attract jobs to the community. And then like a domino effect, other users would then hopefully want to take advantage of the other sites and and and phase development on on that uh on this site. um and then help the community overall. So, we we really felt that uh the industrial general was the best category and was the best fit for this for this property. Um as Mr. Ruby said as well, you know, each phase is going to go in front of the commission, in front of the the town council for approval as far as engineering standards, setbacks, uh traffic requirements, those specific

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site requirements are going to be approval items. Um and so even though we are proposing industrial general on the full hundred acres, we we feel that there is enough uh buffer in terms of um checks and balances from the the town's perspective in order to make sure that we are not proposing uses that are are going to be disadvantageous to the to the town. In fact, it's the opposite. We want to put forth a project or that or a reasonzoning that um that's clean design and and um is very attractive uh to uh to citizens and and folks that are that are passing through the town from the high from from 89 um and in the surrounding businesses in this area. So, um I hope that kind of answers the questions a little bit. I just wanted to take kind of a bird's eye view and dive in a little bit. Um but does that help? Well done, council. It helps a lot. It it makes uh I think not only myself but all also the constituents of this town hopefully a little bit more comfortable. Um keep me honest here. So we do not want the buffering is what you were saying that we would get from the commercial minor industrial so that we can attract more people more items more things uh more jobs into the community. So in this through this thoroughfare that leads us up to Jerome drops us down into Sedona Flagstaff. Right. So then we would have a commercial you're looking more so as a a business park than turning it into something that's completely industrial. That's correct, Madam Chair, Commissioner. That that's exactly the intent. Uh we we want it to be that um sort of clean look uh and feel as you are coming down into the town as you're as you're traveling west to this area. Um, and if you're at the fairgrounds, you you're you're in an area that is conducive to um to a to a business park type feel that and and is

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not uh looking to be an industrial type feel to it. That's exactly as you stated. Okay. Understood. And I do agree that uh the checks and balances that have been put in place and defined here would be it's very helpful to put you know others at ease as well. uh or any of your um clients that you represent have any vision or foreseeability as to what you plan to put into such a business park aside from what the proposal is right now for project links commissioner it's a great question um we at this time we are proposing the reszone for the 400 acres as well as the delivery center with phase one we haven't identified and and we are actually um we're not identifying at this time other proposed uses for the site. Um my client is actually um under contract for the the 19 acre site where the proposed building u is is looking to be developed. Um the full the the remainder 80 acres or so will remain as as land but will be utilized in such a fashion that if a user comes forward um they could put forth their own project and move forward in that manner. Understood. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you, Mr. Ross. Commissioner Herb, you have a question. Mr. Ross, I want to leave this slide up here for a second because I have a couple questions relative to this, and I'm going to play the devil's advocate here on the community's behalf. If I heard you correctly, the reason why you would not or your client be in support of this reszoning to a CI versus the IG because CI would require a larger buffer. You wouldn't be able to build right up to 89A because we're reszoning the entire 100 acres to

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IG. That correct statement? Madam Chair, Commissioner, um, not quite. And I'm and I'm sorry if I was if I misstated or or wasn't quite clear in that, but I appreciate the question. Um, we we are in full cooperation of doing whatever is required for based on town requirements to to meet minimum site requirements for whatever we're proposing. We we aren't intending to to build right up against the highway in order to maximize u lot frontage. We're we're really just proposing a project that is maximizing the potential for the site as a business park which is allowable within the land use general land use uh category here. Um so it's not quite as much of avoiding buffers as much as finding finding an interpretation within the land use category that works for this proposed project of a business park. And so general industrial industrial general is is the best use to do that. And we of course we are looking to um satisfy town requirements for setback excuse me setbacks if if needed. Um especially off of 89A as those phases start to to to um to be built. Um but we're not at all looking to evade those those requirements. We're we're purely it I guess the the number one reason is because we don't have that res residential need to tamper down our land our our zoning. We we could actually maximize the use of the site and attract the best possible tenants, the best possible owners of the site, future owners to make this site the best version of itself that it can be in order to maximize the profitability and help uh enhance this community overall. I understand and thank you and I I certainly don't misunderstand my my question and I don't certainly mean any disrespect to you or anyone in this

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presentation but essentially by us changing to an IG regardless of what you may convey here today or your client doesn't prohibit we could call it a business park all we want to call it and it's a distribution center but that doesn't mean the rest of the 100 acres couldn't be something different once that zone owning has changed which means it can be built all the way up to 89A and it could be anything that falls into this IG category which could be manufacturing to a degree. Um I I think I read back on some some other examples on another slide of what some of those categories could be like concrete manufacturing to bottle manufacturing to you name it. This isn't just a nice pretty distribution center like we see and and we can debate whether these are pretty. I've seen distribution centers that are fairly large. This is only 86,000 square feet. I understand. But this is number one. What happens when we put another one out there and another one and another one and this becomes some giant industrial park that is either a all just big giant concrete tiltup warehouses for storage or distribution or we end up having some form of manufacturing in this space which it was never intended to be in its current zone. That's that's my only comment. That's wanted to make sure that was clear. Thank you. Thank you commissioner. Thank you Mr. Ross, I understand the C1, the PM, and the IG. And as you stated in your narrative, I really feel that the IG is the best way to go to bring in complimentary businesses where they're going to be handin glove. And do I think that IG at some point in time will allow

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a concrete manufacturing plant? I would say absolutely not. Due to the wherewithal of the planning and zoning commission and the council, we wouldn't let that happen to our community. I hope not. So I I do support the IG and it is the in my mind the best way to go for a reason. Thank you, Madam Chair. Do you want to ask answer any questions on employment that I know Commissioner King had some? I have a few for your client. Or how do you want to handle that? You know, uh, Madam Chair, I I'll do my best. You know, my my clients um you know, um the name was said tonight. Uh Amazon is a is a proposed um user of this delivery center. Um they are very preliminary right now. Um they are exploring this site. Um they have in no way committed to this site. I I do want to make that clear that um there are there were some sensitivities um about announcing who that was um just because of the the employment um uh situation of of Amazon in this community. uh we wanted to be cognizant to that and and re be uh be aware you know be mindful um of that situation and um you know we're it's early in this in the stage. So um I I can say u and and I I I won't be able to go into the specifics. I'm I'd be more than happy to to invite up Humberto uh who who does represent Amazon who is here with us today to go through some specifics but I do want to make that clear that it's we're very early on in the process. Thank you Mr. Ross. Chair Griffith, I'd like to make a comment if I could getting back to Commissioner Herb's uh comment about um I think I think where he was going with his comments were the idea if you with the

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reszone for the entire parcel that there's a concern that uh things might be allowed as a matter of right based on the zoning. And so I I I hear your concern. And so I guess my question to reiterate these things would come back to the commission. uh we would review them and then decide accordingly uh making a recommendation to the town council. So there is that stop gap to allow us to kind of then uh review any proposed uses uh that may be allowed as a matter of right but may not be approved in that district. Do I have that right? That's correct. All right. Thank you. I'm going to turn it over to Mr. Hberto who can uh go over some more details. Thank you. Welcome, Mr. Ombberto. Hi. Good afternoon, uh, chairperson, commissioners, members of the public. Ombberto Kintana, the senior economic development manager for Amazon for Southwest US. I'm happy to answer any specific questions, but starting with the question that you had, Commissioner King. Um, this facility in it of itself, there's two buckets of employment that we have a potential to have. It's our Amazon associates which are our associates that work within the warehouse and then there's also a potential of employment generation which are delivery service partners which are delivery drivers. So in total we're looking about uh approximately 350 employment opportunities that the site's going to to generate. I will caveat though that we do have an existing facility uh in town that's about 50,000 square feet or so. um numbers um that I looked at earlier was about a little over 200 or so uh employment opportunities there. So there is an increase in terms of size in terms of employment opportunity as well. But our intent is to um not be a renter in town, but be a land owner. And that's where we're looking to um build on this uh

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approximately 20 acre lot to really cement our commitment to the the community of Prescat Valley and to serve its residents. And again, our associates that work in our facility and delivery homes are are its residents. So, we're hoping to expand our footprint uh in town and uh hopefully um we'll be able to get to to do that uh some um in the near future. Thank you, sir. I'm assuming that you would have a staggered workforce and not all 350 employees would be arriving at one time. That's correct. So, we do have a variety in terms of our shifts structure. Um, one of the things that we do and just kind of kind of to take a little bit of a step back. So, the facility is a last mile delivery uh station. So, we do receive packages here and we basically break it down to create the routes for the day. And so, we usually have our associates at the facility um usually coming in at at early morning hours to kind of start preparing those routes. They put them in basically into baker's racks and create those routes. Our delivery associates then usually start to deliver u those packages around 10:00 a.m. They they uh go out in these routes uh in in waves. So not necessarily to um impact the community during peak hours. So we usually start around 10:00 a.m. go around for 2 to three hours and it's usually 20 to 40 waves at each time each interval. They go out for a 10-hour shift. So they they return back to the facility in that same type of staggered manner um to the site. Well, I know that I'm an ecommerce shopper, so I'm sure I would be helping your facility and get to know your drivers on a personal basis. Absolutely. In the narrative, it said that the delivery

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facility will facilitate the last mile delivery of packages to residents of the town. I'm sure that didn't mean the town, but will you go throughout the Quad Cities or where will you be positioned for delivery? Yeah, I'd have to take a look at to really understand what our propagation map, but these types of facilities, usually the way it it's based on population density and the number of packages, but in in essence, a driver will go out as far as an hour out and kind of work its way back to the site and that's usually how it operates. We do have these facilities. We looking at sites in in Flagstaff and other things of that nature. So, we do tend to be a little bit more hyper local. I know uh Commissioner Herb mentioned about you know there are these larger facilities those are more of our fulfillment centers where our our product is housed and sortation and cross talk. So we have a couple of those and kind of the west valley by Phoenix and and Goodyear and um and Buckeye but in this specific location it is a much smaller footprint um that is a last mile delivery station to kind of really provide for the the local area. Perfect. Thank you sir. Any questions for Mr. Ombberto? Commissioner Herb. Thank you, sir. I appreciate you getting up and explanation and stuff and and my question for clarification. So, you said the new facility, if in fact you folks were to be the ones to occupy the new facility on the 20 acres and be land owners there, approximately 350 uh employees, correct? Would that be a relocation of your existing facility on Enterprise Drive? Yeah. So, that that's as indicated, we would be it's a newer facility for us. It's a built-in suit. built basically to our specifications. We've outgrown that existing facility. We would be relocating staff to this location and then growing uh up to that amount. So that 350 would include the

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current workload or excuse me employee staff of 200 and something. So we'd be growing just for sake of argument. Sure. 50 to 100 employees at at max if 350 is your max and you're already at 200 and something. Is that correct? Correct. And the one thing I I did want to kind of emphasize this specific facility what we're looking to do at this location is a bit of a hybrid. We're still exploring. We're we're looking to do um and we in Amazon we use a lot of acronyms. There's a lot of alphabet soup. So um this specific facility is called a a rural super rule. It's not an urban core but it's a delivery station and it's a rule super rule plus. And what that means is it's basically allows to house product inhouse to allow also for delivery of most utilized products, everyday products, toothpaste, you know, shampoo, whatever it may be to be located and uh housed at this location to be um shipped to folks so they don't necessarily see a lag time in delivery times. Um and in order to achieve this, we also allow for opportunities uh to deliver via flex drivers. And so a flex driver is basically similar to like an Uber and lift model where folks can sign up for a route. Um you know folks that are students or folks that just want to pick up a make a couple extra bucks. They'll sign up for a route four hours a day and they're able to deliver on our behalf. And you might see this already in some instances. In some areas they might have this uh where you have a individual with a vest in their personal vehicle delivering on our behalf. But with this um RSR plus that we're calling to kind of house product in house will allow for greater opportunities. So there's additional employment opportunities in that manner. Obviously they're independent contractors but it allows for additional opportunities for employment in that regard. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you, Mr. Ombberto. Any other questions, Commissioner? Thank you, sir, very much for being here tonight. Of course. Thank you. I actually I'm sorry. I have a couple more

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questions for you here. So, thank you very much for coming up here. This is possibly a fantastic opportunity for the town. Just trying to get some more details to understand exactly, you know, what this looks like, what that background might need, how many employees would be there, right? And so, we understand that you've outgrown your center, right? that is currently um down off of the 69. I believe it's Valley and have right off of um East Valley Road, right? That's the one. Okay. And so then we relocating some of those employees over to to this facility. Understood. So how many of those is it for CO ball? How many full-time employees versus part-time work? Because my familiarity I have a lot of familiarity with transportation, supply chain, etc., etc. A lot of this is part-time work. How many full-time jobs do you think that would bring in? Yeah, I don't have the exact figure at the moment, but I would say from a percentage standpoint for the most part, and this is just in general for a lot of the last mile delivery centers that I've supported, I would say maybe close to 80 90% is usually full-time. Um, but it all depends on the actual operations of each specific site, but I would say the vast majority are usually full-time. Okay, understood. So 80 to 90% estimate or estimate would be full-time. All right, that being said, there are a lot of open jobs currently available for drivers that are not being filled because people are not applying for those jobs. So, as of yesterday, per Indeed on indeed.com, there are 75 plus open job positions for drivers for companies that include

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FedEx, Yavapai County, Swire, Coca-Cola, Hensley Beverage Company, Pepsi, Quad City Logistics, JB Hunt, Waste Management, etc. So, is there something that maybe your company would do and to be able to bring in qualified candidates that might apply for this job because there are a lot of jobs outstanding already in our community in this sector. Sure. Um, you know, from our perspective, I know, uh, usually when we look at sites that we're looking to locate or continue operating, our workforce staffing team does do an analysis in terms of potential of, uh, a workforce pool to pull from. I wouldn't know the specifics as to how many vacancies there are in in in terms of our delivery service partners. Um, I just know that usually our workforce staffing team usually has done that due diligence to really understand the job market in the areas that we operate to ensure that we're able to to kind of provide to our customers at the end of the day. Okay. Okay. And um I also noted that you said um that there might be this this facility might be used for storing items as well possibly. That's correct. So that's what we're exploring. We're exploring the option which is called an RSR plus which allows to store product. So based on the most utilized products in the area um um toothpaste, toilet paper, whatever it may be to allow for folks to not necessarily see a gap in non- urban areas where they might be still waiting for product to come from our fulfillment centers to the delivery station. those most utilized product. They usually uh host a a variety of those at on site to allow then folks to basically receive the same type of customer service that they're accustomed to in in other parts

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of uh the US. Okay, understood. All right. So, um, just a note to the commission as well that if there are, right, other employees that are coming in from the other area, this might be a good thing because then the road's not going to be clogged with so many additional drivers if there were to be, you know, solid, right? 350, right? So, um, to be to be considered. Uh, that's all I have. Thank you so much for your time. I'm here if you have any more questions. Thank you. Thank you, sir. I did have a question of Mr. Latir. Thought you escaped. Can't get away from you. So, I read all of your utility summary items. Your list very well put together. Thank you. At what point in time are these summarized items to be implemented? Um there's no probably it depends, right? Yes. Standard engineering answer is it depends. Um in general construction answer too, it depends. Correct. In general, um the infrastructure improvements would need to be constructed prior to the facility being open for operation. Um that specifics on that. Um I can probably get more information if the project does go to council. We can get some more information on that for you. Thank you. I was just curious. I appreciate your answer. And if if I may, can I offer a couple pieces of information that might help answer your question from before? Um, it seemed like there were some

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questions about the um the development and you mentioned frontage up to the highway and and so on. I did take a look at a couple of items while I was reviewing this project and the site that they're showing and just to give you a bit of a perspective. Um, I don't have the map up here, uh, but the site, uh, that they're talking about for this distribution facility sits about 1,600 feet off the road from Highway 89A. And the site itself sits about 20 feet below the highway. So, from where you're sitting on the highway, if you look at where the site is, it's going to be about 20 feet below. I was taking a look at sort of the view sheds to see what that did. Um, and it's not much different than what's out there now with the county facility that that they have out there for their uh their facility just to the south. I just wanted to give you that little piece of perspective because there was also a question about um scenic corridors and so on. I did take a look on the ADOT website. State Route 89A is identified as a scenic corridor or scenic highway. That designation starts at milepost 322 which is about five and a half miles to the north of this location. So I just wanted to get that information out there for a little bit of clarification for you to see if it helps you with the project. Let appreciate it very much. Before we go to public comment, are there any other comments or questions for staff? Mr. Ruby, Mr. Ross, Mr. Ombberto? No. Perfect. Madam Chair, if I may, one of the questions that was brought up was about the 89A interface and a buffer there. What the suggestion was going to be from staff to the commission is you could always impose a condition, for example, of a 100 foot buffer off of 89A for any subsequent projects that are within this area. Uh, and again, they're

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coming back to the commission as a PD. So, they they will be reviewed by you and then passed on to the council. Um what I'd like to do though is uh uh John Latir mentioned some of the conditions and some of the conditions were uh asked here. There is a proposed uh list of conditions of approval. Uh I'd like to kind of go through those and and explain to you what's being required from our utilities department in terms of sewer laterals, water laterals and and as well as the TIA. So with your indulgence, I'll go through that uh before you open it up. The proposed conditions of approval. Number one, developer developer will be required to relocate the promo the proposed domestic and fire connections to the existing 8 in water line as approved by the utilities department. Number two, the developer must have a lateral service connection to the proposed sewer main as approved by the utilities department. Number three, the developer must extend the proposed 8 in sewer to the north to the north of the tract along County Fair Trail. Number four, the developer will be required to have an approved traffic impact analysis finalized with any off-site improvements by the town engineer. And that was what Mr. Latir referred to earlier. Number five, the developer will have to be in general conformance with the approved site plan as approved by the town council. So again, getting back to the changes, uh significant conformance, things of that nature, that'll be covered. Uh number six, the developer will be required to update and finalize the TIA to the town and ADOT approval. Number seven, the developer will be required to construct county fair trail to the town's industrial collector

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section to include engineered pavement structural section to accommodate traffic loading to the approval of the town engineer. Number eight, construct mitigations to state highways as determined by AOT and the approved TIA. So this is ongoing as far as the AOT comments, town engineers comments and refer reference to traffic. Um number nine, additional phase development on the remaining 80 acres will require final approval by the town council. So, as you look at these conditions, they're conditions that are master planning this area, this entire 100 acres, providing the infrastructure that could accommodate additional phase development in this area. Uh, and that's what uh town staff is endeavoring to do. Thank you, Mr. Ruby. And number nine was one of my questions that Commissioner Brie took from me. She stole it right out from underneath of me. That require final approval by town council and we need to implement that planning and zoning commission. It comes before us as well. Yes, ma'am. As we previously discussed, it is considered a PD, a plan development. Perfect. And that requirement is to come back to you for whatever phase. The commission will review and make recommendations that will then be passed on to council for their final approval. Thank you, sir. Great job, my friend. So, clerk, do we have public comment? Yes. Kathy Heath and Jason Knox. Welcome. Come, Miss Kathy. Good evening. Hi, I'm Kathy Heath. I am a director and secretary of a local nonprofit known as Laser, Large

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Animal Shelters and Emergency Readiness. Um, I am just here to make a record of a concern we have uh over a potential traffic issue in that area, specifically along County Fair Trail. Uh, we are taking no position on this matter other than just bringing our concern and putting it in the record. Um, Laser, it is a 501c3 nonprofit. We provide shelter for barn animals during evacuations in Yavapai County. Um, the county has provided a shelter site for us just off of County Fair Trail. We are by the RV park. There are 190 horse stalls there. And uh we have been activated 10 times and on standby another 10 times all for wildfires since we started in 2019. Um we have a written agreement with the county. They provide the facility, we provide the volunteers. Um evacuees will bring their animals to us. Uh we are the destination. We provide the sheltering services with our volunteers. But evacuees will come down Highway 89A, turn on County Fair Trail, and then take an immediate left on a service road that runs along the RV park. Traffic does tend to get backed up. The heaviest time is at the initial go that the sheriff issues when evacuees show up at our shelter. Traffic with trucks and horse trailers can be backed up on the service road onto County Fair Trail. And if it's a large evacuation, let's say Coyote Springs area, uh, where there are a lot of animals, we could potentially have traffic backing up to Highway 89A. At our drill three weeks ago, we

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practiced with live animals and trucks and trailers. We had about eight trucks and trailers there. And when they line up for the intake and we even though we try to process them as quickly as possible to get the animals settled in, we did have trucks and trailers backed up on the County Fair Trail and that's just at a drill. Um so if there is a large evacuation and we have distribution trucks traveling County Fair Trail, we could potentially have a real problem there. We just want to bring this to your attention because it may not even be aware in in a traffic impact study. Um, that's all I had to say. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Heath. And we certainly do appreciate what Laser does for our community. Thank you. You're a very well-needed nonprofit. Jason Knox, 4790 North Sheridan Lane. My wife says I spend far too much money on Amazon. A distribution center here is a great idea, but not here. The traffic issues are going to get somebody killed out there. We see this all over the area with all the residences all the way up stretching almost to the out outskirts of Chino Valley. They all come down to 89A. We know what it's like already with traffic. An existing spot off of Valley would be much more appropriate across the street from their current facility Dewey up off of Ruger Road in Prescuit. I know it's not PB. Sorry about that. But it makes more sense and it's safer. We built Enterprise specifically for these big trucks. And I can't I don't have the time to get into the transportation issues, but everything has to come in by tractor trailer. This is going to be a

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24-hour a day operation and then the small trucks go out and do it. Come to my house, get bring me my stuff. So, this is not the appropriate location for this facility. I also have another question. Is this going to be leased by Amazon or are they going to own it? Commissioner King, thank you for your insight. Have a good evening. Thank you, Mr. Knox clerk, do we have any other public comment? Not that are registered, but as stated earlier, we having techn are there any non-registered speakers? Like I said, we had some te technical difficulties. So, if you did want to speak, you're more than welcome to come state your name at Yes, ma'am. Patricia Batzel. um previous res u resident of Prescat Valley currently in Chino Valley. So the question being presented here is really about what we're doing with these 100 acres and whether we're going to approve a PDP without any valid description or detail or easements or anything else um for a company who is the world's largest and I quote online retailer and the second largest company in the entire world. So, I think all of you should understand the legal ramifications of approving anything and inviting Amazon into our community. We do not want a sea of warehouses. We don't want to be Californian. We don't want to be Maricopen. Okay? And I'm sorry, I forgot to pass something out, but I'll do it right afterwards. So, the bottom line is is that we're supposed to be committed

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here to raising the standard of living. If you do your homework, you will find that Amazon pays on average, and these are all from newspaper articles, and I will send them to you, 18% less than other companies. You will find that they have the highest rate of lawsuits, the highest rate of injuries. Miss Patricia, etc. Miss Patric, don't interrupt me, please, Sandy. I only have three minutes. more time, but we're not here to discuss Amazon and we are here to discuss whether or not the development services and commission is interested in following the general plan and the betterment of the community. Correct. But not there have been a lot of minor potential business wanting to come to the town of Prescat Valley and I will give you a few more seconds since I interrupted you. So, um, what the staff report doesn't, um, say, and I only saw five pages of a staff report and 18 pages of the project narrative. I don't know if all of you got a lot more information than that, but that's all that was posted to the public. Just FYI, we don't see anything about the impact of resoning in on this town or its neighbors. The impact on ecourism, which is supposed to be one of our major drivers, the desired rural image of the town, which is stamped all over the general plan and we just voted on again in 2022. The wildlife corridors, the dead end that Ernie showed. Simpo has funded nothing to pursue wildlife corridors and they're supposed to be doing it for us. no wershed, no natural open space and the scenic drives. What does the staff report says? It says there is a lack of significant features. So if driving up the 89 to Mingus Mountain to visit Mingus Mountain or

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Jerome or Cottonwood or Sedona, which is a big part of the attraction for people who come here, is not significant. I don't know what is. Um when we talk about the F Ernie is referring to the F of just this one building. However, the legal F for this 100 acres is 1.0. They could build it out wallto-wall. Understand that. Okay. Just because they're not taking advantage of that in this first step doesn't mean they can't legally. They not only can do that, but if they can prove good cause, they can exceed it. Read the document. So the current plan doesn't include any industrial uses in the in the um the um land use and we are terrified of having again a sea of warehouses in this town. It would destroy the whole character of the town. The amount of traffic this warehouse will generate is going to be massive. And our noise ordinance only addresses the inside of a house. All of these people who buy prop private property with acres of land will not be able to use their outdoor space because there is no limit in the staff report on the operational hours. They can drive 24/7 and we already have that problem. Please wrap it up. Thank you. Okay, I'm wrapping it up. So, um, and also note that in the project narrative, this customer is very, very interested on how the 89A connects us to Cottonwood and Sedona and even Flag Staff. Okay, there's a reason for that. And they repeat that twice. So, and and finally, I'll just say we don't know enough about the future of these other 80 acres to really know what they're going to do

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with it. And so far we've received no documentation that helps us understand that. Thank you, Miss Betszel. Do we have any other public speakers? Yes. I'm Kathy Smith. I live on Marhide Circle in Prescat Valley. Excuse me. Um, and I'm sorry because I was a little uh sideswiped here because I didn't know it was going to be Amazon. Um, there's been a lot of speculation. Try to speak into the microphone, please. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yes, I'm taller, Patricia. I'm taller than you are. Okay. Is that better? Perfect. Okay. So, at any rate, um I kind of guesstimated it was Amazon because there was some talk about it possibly being an Amazon distribution center. And I'm sorry, I didn't get the total statistics. I understand they assume there's going to be about or they're estimating 350 jobs, but we're going to transfer over from the current distribution center 200 plus. So, we're talking about bit about maybe 150 jobs max. Right. Okay. Now, the uh the general um the general the current general plan, the one that was voted in in 2022. Get closer to your microphone. One of the leaders Oh, there I hear it. Sorry, I apologize. One of the leadership, one of leadership's guiding principles is to quote promote an economically diversified community committed to raising the standard of living for its citizens through business, medical and employment opportunities. Um and at the March, no, April 3rd, uh

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town council study session, there was a section on affordable housing assessment. And the consultant, Elliot D. Pollock and Company, told us there that the average price of a new home is more than $500,000. That the current threebedroom apartment rent uh requires annual income of $92,80. And according to the town survey, 89% of respondents ranked affordable housing as the number one community need. However, with Amazon, um, truck drivers wages are below the national average for similar roles and some reports suggest they're paid about 18% lower than the industry norm. Um, and according to Commissioner, this was as of this afternoon, according to Commissioner King, as of yesterday, there were 75 outstanding jobs for truck drivers in this area. Um, according to indeed.com this afternoon, the average salary for a truck delivery driver in PV is uh $75,89 or according to ziprecruiter.com $2653 an hour. Door Dash estimated average pay is 28.45 an hour. Um, and we are now talking about reszoning an entire section of land to industrial. Where is a benefit to Prescuit Valley? We're going to add maybe 150 jobs for uh less than Door Dash pays less than uh the average salary for a truck driver deliver truck delivery driver. We were supposed to be we've been told and

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hearing from the town council repeatedly that the focus is supposed to be on innovation, science, medical provision. Um, I don't think that delivery truck drivers are what we want our Prescuit Valley residents, 78% of whom commute out of Prescat Valley to work. Thank you, ma'am. To aspire to being a truck driver. Appreciate your comments. Any other public comment? Randy Vosberg, Presca Valley. Patricia just handed out some information that just came to light. And well, first I want to go back and mention what was also brought up. I'd like to know what's going to be done with the other 80 acres that's being considered in this along with the 20 acres for the distribution center. I think we should know what they want to build there. Now going back to the handout. So the town of Prescat Valley released this information that you have. They released it to BX BEX that serves architectural engineering and construction industry prior to sharing it with any of us in the town. In fact, the news was spread to developers far and wide for them to attend the neighborhood meeting that was held on March 3rd. And the article just was provided was published on April 11th. So again now the 86,000 plus square foot first phase planned on nearly now

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that states 1,280 acres but Ernest said there's 1575 in pad 41. So again like Patricia said don't California or Maricopa our land with wallto-wall warehouses industry. This is a rural town. According to the general plan, it's supposed to have a rural feel, a country feel. We're not We don't want a city. So, I'm not going to read everything out of here. I did want to say that um the staff staff report found that reszoning will maximize the land's potential to promote economic development, provide job opportunities, and enhance the ability for supply chain opportunities. The developers held the neighborhood meeting on March 3. However, the staff wasn't listed as an attendee. They didn't even attend it according to the list. So I find that rather industry interesting. Anyway, um I think we need to think about this a little better before you start commercializing the whole east side of our town. Thank you. Thank you, sir. All right. Thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight. My name is Lisa Bartlett and I live in Presca Valley, not too far from where the proposed project is intended to be. And I've been back to the Pepsi place several times because they've donated to events that we hosted. So, I know where this area is. So, you're taking 20 acres to give

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to a business that's been located here and not been any problem to us as far as most of us know as an business neighbor. But now they're getting bigger and they want to come into an area where it'll upset the way of life for a lot of people, most of them seniors. Those most of those trucks coming in with deliveries will be coming through Feain Road. All along there on the one side is a senior development. When they come up into 89, there are several developments that'll be affected by the noise of tractors and trailers coming over. That's when they get their deliveries, overnight. Well, if you go there at 8 o'clock, 10 o'clock in the morning, it's almost empty because the trucks came in overnight to make deliveries and then things are parcled out early in the morning so they can be delivered out. So, and you know yourself at nighttime sound travels further and louder and those trucks are going to be very disturbing to the people that live there. And as our commissioners, you have a responsibility to all of us living here now. and to want to change that 100 acres for something sight unknown for a land owner who's been far far far from caring about what he offers to bring into Prescat Valley. I'm sure most of you remember we lost a four-year prison of I'm sorry, a four-year college

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coming into town the morning after Fain's prison was rejected. The president of the college from NAU called Larry Turk and said, "I cannot justify bringing in students to a town that might be a prison town." So that was my first dealing with this land owner. Then he wants to ruin Fain Park running dump trucks through there. Fortunately, our council said it's not going to be approved and they didn't let them run it through. He wants to do mines in neighborhoods. We're here to discuss the zoning map change. I'm telling you why I don't think you should change it. Because we're not here, ma'am, to discourage or talk about a developer change 100 acres for one business that I don't think you should change it for because that business is going to disrupt the life of people living here. And you can't trust what might come on to the other 80 acres. And for that reason, I think that you would be foolish and negligent in your duties to us to do that. Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate your comments. You're welcome. Sandy Cordova, Prescuit Valley. Um, I'm very upset about the resulting. Um, I feel that the town's leadership and the elected officials should manage growth with the best planning of new and diverse industries

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which promote economic growth, higher paying job opportunities and environmental protection. I'm especially very concerned about the environment. We are in an over pump popping stage of our water. So how would this be justified to put this industry at this time and where does the preliminary development plan how does it demonstrate this environmental protection? It's important that we think about the economic viability, the environmental quality and raising the standard of living of its citizens are a very important consideration in zone change requests. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Cordova. Any other public speakers? Taller than that. I'm Steve Wood. I've been living in this town for 21 years. I guess I live over in the viewpoint. Um, you know, I'm also a business owner in the in the town, but I want to talk more. I've got four kids. I've got two of them that have to move out of the area to work. I've got two of them that are working here. Um, and I know a lot of people who, you know, we educate these kids and send them off to school and they don't come back. They don't come back because there's no jobs here. Is it an Amazon job that they're going to come back for? No. But I think we need as a town, we need to be growing. We need to be pushing. Let's let's get some jobs in here. We need jobs. We need jobs for our kids. We need to be able to keep our kids here. I got grandkids that are growing up and they're already thinking about moving away and it's, you know, it's just kind of ridiculous. Um, is this the best place for an Amazon warehouse? I don't know. But I'm kind of glad they're looking at doing a 100 acres. Maybe there's five businesses out there. If we get 150 from Amazon and 200

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from the next one, 300 from the next one. We're starting to talk about some real jobs. Uh, as a commercial glass company owner, there's not enough windows in this building. But other than that, I'm That's all I wanted to say. Thanks. Thank you, Mr. Wood. Yes, sir. Uh, good evening, Pat Kirkindall, Prescuit. Uh, and we're going to talk employment, and I appreciate you bringing that up, Commissioner, chairperson. Thanks for having me here. And I really don't have a dog in the hunt, but, uh, for five years, I was under Governor Dussy, running state workforce for Arizona. Now, I'm the business service rep for Yavapai County. And whether it's 150 jobs or 100, they're very important. Right now, we're losing about 150 to 175 driving down to TCSM every day because I follow them down most mornings if I'm going down to the office in Phoenix. I also live out by the airport where there's a lot of industry. There's a lot of people that walk to work from Prescat Valley because their cars broke down and they don't have the flexibility. And thank goodness for Yavline is starting to run. But having jobs out here is going to be a big piece. having jobs that maybe they can ride their bike to or have accessible transportation. Um, you know, we're also working with a local uh veterans nonprofit of moving a hub out here to slow down suicide prevention to help with workforce and to help our veterans have better opportunities with living and workforce. So, you know, this is a I think it's a great opportunity on behalf of myself. I'm not speaking on behalf of the state, but you know, anything we can do. We have between 12 and 20 people in Prescuit Valley come in and file for unemployment every day. Most of it's because of transportation. Their cars broke down. They can't get to work and the employer in Prescat had to lay them off and and that's a big thing because they don't have any other options. And then it takes four weeks for unemployment to kick in. So, what are they supposed to do? as somebody that's been through this Amazon plant,

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has been through Amazon plants across Arizona, very professional. We have people looking for Amazon jobs here that can't get them because there's no openings. So, I hope you look at the workforce side, um, just like the gentleman Steve Wood said before, if we can keep our kids here, if we can keep jobs in the community, it's a win-win because they're spending money in the community. But when you lose somebody to drive to Phoenix every day, how much money are they spending in the community? they're spending it maybe down in Phoenix and stopping and shopping on the way back rather than spending in our community. So, thanks for your time. If anybody would like to come and take a tour of the Arizona Work Center, we'd love to show you all the resources, vocational rehab, SNAP camp, see firsthand what the workforce goes through when they get laid off or when they're in a job search. Thank you for your time. Would you please state your name for the record, sir? Yes. Pat Kirkindall. Thank you. Appreciate that. Any other public speakers comments? We did have two letters that came in and I will read those. They're relatively short. To the town of Prescat Valley from Steve Rutherford. The subject property is very well sit suited for the proposed use as a distribution center. The ingress and egress is more than adequate for the proposed use. I personally am aware of many inquiries for this type of use over the last 20 years. It is needed and a lack of usable sites has been a detriment. This type of facility will be a job generator. We need many job generators here to provide jobs that can support families. That was a letter in support. There's another letter from Mark Worth. I'm writing this letter to express my support for the proposed reszone to industrial at the

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southwest corner of State Road 89A and County Fair Trail. I am the owner of Fairgrounds RV Park just east of the proposed reszone on County Fair Trail in the town of Prescat Valley. Reszoning the 100 acre property to industrial maximizes the land's potential for future business park slash industrial development in this area. I also support the request for a preliminary development plan to allow for a distribution delivery center on the southern 20 acres of the property. I am confident that the project will contribute to economic growth and job creation for the town. Overall, this proposed reszone and future development of the site is positive for the residents of the town. I fully support this proposed reszone from residential to industrial. Sincerely, Markworth Fairgrounds RV Park. At this time, I will close the public hearing. Commissioner, are there further comments and/or questions? Yeah, I have one. Thank you, Commissioner Bordon. Mr. Ruby, can I ask you a question? One of the one of the comments you made about and and some of the speakers brought up was setbacks from State Route 89A. With current development, what what would be the setback from the ride ofway? I mean, do you know offhand? Uh, Commissioner Bordon, it would be sight specific depending on the on the use. Okay. Okay. But, uh, as I mentioned earlier, if it's commission's desire, you could place a condition, for example, that a 100 yard set or 100 foot setback could be required. And that's why I kind of bring it up is um, I I

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don't have a big issue with the resoning from the standpoint of its appropriateness. Um, that's just my opinion. Um, the concern I had is a setback and and that might be a condition that the commission could consider to to really kind of deal with that issue. Other than that, I really don't have many issues with the reasonzoning of this property. I think you did a good job as well of uh other members of the team that came up and explained and and some of the commissioners questions brought out a lot of information regarding the industrial zoning. So, I just I think that's one of the issues that would kind of solve any concerns I have. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner Bordon. Any other questions or comments? If there if not, is there a motion to either approve zoning map change 25-00004 with the attached stipulations and or to deny zoning map change 25-004? Madame Chair. Yes, Commissioner Laney. Appropriate time for me to add my condition. Absolutely. I have a condition for the zone change. You've heard it before. This zone change for the full Oh, no. If construction is not started on phase one within five years of the final date of approval, the zoning reverts back to the original zoning. You've heard it before. So, Commissioner Laney, is that a motion that you would like to propose for the

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conditions of approval? My motion. Is there a second for Miss Laney's motion? Is this for adding just that particular condition, not for approving the the zoning? Correct. I will second that. Thank you. Uh com a motion by Commissioner Laney, a second by Commissioner Bordon. Clerk, will you please call for the vote for Miss Laney's addition of proposed conditions? Commissioner Rutherford, point of clarification. Would would you repeat the motion so that I can hear it slowly? The aging brain takes longer to process audio. Say it slow. Repeat it slowly. I'm not hearing you. Perhaps uh construction. If construction is not started on phase one within five years of the date of approval, I would vote yes. Thank you, clerk. Commissioner Rutherford voted yes. Thank you. Commissioner Huat, yes. Commissioner Laney, Commissioner Bordon, yes. Commissioner Herb, yes. Commissioner Keane, yes. Has to add that as the 10th condition. And Chair Griffith, yes. So, Mr. Ruby, you will add that condition to the proposed conditions

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going forward. Of course. Thank you. So chairman also then are there any other conditions people wanted to add? That was the only one that has been brought forward because if just because I can make a motion and add my condition, but it could be part of the approval if that's okay. So, um I'll make a motion to approve the appro, um zoning map change DMC 25-004. And the only condition I wanted to add was that the property will have a minimum setback, building setback of 100 ft from State Route 89A. Um but I'll add that just with the entire motion to approve the zoning map change. Is there a second? I'll make a second. Thank you. And that is the motion for approval of zoning map change 25-004 with Mr. Bordeau's added stipulation that the setback is Mr. Bordon 100 ft from state route 89. Thank you. right away. A minimum A minimum of 100. Minimum. Thank you. Thank you. We have a motion and a second. Clerk, will you call for the vote? Commissioner Huat, yes. Commissioner Rutherford, yes. Commissioner Laney, yes. Commissioner Herb, no. Commissioner Bordeau, yes. Commissioner King, no. and Chair Griffith. Yes. So that zoning map change 25-00004

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passes. Thank you, Mr. Herb, for your presentation. Action item 8B, election of chairperson per town code. I did. Oh, vice chair. For town code section 13-13-010C officers, the commission shall elect its own chair and vice chair from its membership. Elections for chair and vice chair shall occur at the November commission meeting in oddnumbered calendar years. Number two, a chair or vice chair may not consecutively serve more than one full two-year term. A member may serve as chair or vice chair for more than one two-year term so long as the terms are not consecutive. A member who serves an abbreviated term as chair or vice chair as a result of a vacancy may be elected to fullfill a two-year term at the conclusion of the abbreviated term. If the office of the chair becomes vacant, the vice chair shall automatically become chair for the remainder of the term. Are there any nominations for vice chair? Griffith. Chair Griffith, I would like to make a motion uh to uh nominate Commissioner Herb for vice chair. Second. Thank you. Are there any other nominations for vice chair? Clerk, will you please call the vote? Commissioner Rutherford.

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Yes, Commissioner Laney. Yes, Commissioner Hwatt. Yes, Commissioner Herb. Yes, Commissioner Bordeau. Yes. Commissioner King, yes. Chair Griffith, yes. Congratulations. Item nine, adjournment. Any further business? And since there's no further business, we are adjourned. [Music]

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