City Council - Regular Meeting

To welcome you and call to order the Porter Street City Council regular meeting for September 22nd. And I'd like to remind us of our guiding principles and the actions we're about to take tonight. Are we raising the bar in all of our actions? Are we honoring the past but not living in the past? Are we building positive connections with our community and outside partners? And is the decision-making process building a diverse, equitable, and inclusive community? Please stand and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.

United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

right council members we have a published agenda jay you have a modification i do mayor i'd like to remove uh business item b adopting resolution approving renewal of temporary construction easements uh till next next our next meeting we're going to remove them until we're ready yep is there a second second a motion by councilman rosa pepe a second by council member terry to remove as business item 7b the temporary construction easements and Staff found some errors in the math, and we're going to bring them back at a future meeting. All in favor of removing that item, please say aye. Aye.

And we're closed.

Hearing none, the item is removed from the agenda. Are there any other proposed amendments to this evening's agenda? Okay, Councilmember, go ahead. I move to approve the agenda as amended.

Second.

by Councilmember Rosa Pepe, second by Councilmember Diener to approve the agenda as amended. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? That's it for this evening. We are to our first citizen comment period. Anyone wishing to address the council? You have three minutes. Up to the microphone and identify yourself for the record.

I'm Heidi Fenton and I live right here in the city. Calculating deception is deliberately misleading. Oh, it's not on? Okay. Well, I'll wait until you're all ready. I don't want to get cut off too soon. It's okay. I apologize. I'm not... Oh, okay, for the three, okay. That's okay. Okay, Heidi Fenton. Calculated deception is deliberately misleading or manipulating someone to get a particular outcome. That is exactly what the mayor, the city attorney, and councilman did to me on June 16th, 2026. On June 19th, the Port Orchard City Government page posted from Councilmember Morrissey THE CITY COUNCIL ACKNOWLEDGES THAT FORMER COUNCILMEMBER FETTON TENDERED AN ORAL RESONATION DURING THE MEETING OF JUNE 16, 2026. WHAT MEETING? IT WAS NOT A PUBLIC MEETING. IT WAS A CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION, FIVE COUNCILMEN AND THE CITY ATTORNEY BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. I WAS BULLIED AND THREATENED. THEY KNEW I DID NOT WANT TO RESIGN. THAT SAME POST SAID, TO BE CLEAR, Allegations had not yet been adjudicated and the council had not yet reached any conclusion regarding the validity at the time she chose to resign. How do you guys get away with this? It beats me. You are deceiving the people with a government post. I did not choose to resign. I was given two options, resign quietly or be defamed with public humility. And we all know they had already defamed me with lies and no due process. On June 17th before noon, Council Member Worden again contacted my daughter and said I needed my resignation email in by noon. I sent an email in by noon to the mayor, the city attorney, and my lawyer. It said, sorry for the confusion, I am not resigning. They did not like that email. So about 1235, 1245, and 1250, that same afternoon, Debbie Lund, HR director, started scrambling, calling employee L and other people who were at the June 11th Givens meeting. HR Director Lund was collecting statements after I said I was not resigning. Why? Because they had nothing in writing, only threats and no due process. Here is my due process. At 12.50 PM on June 17, Debbie Lund called Trevor of the Pee Wee Association. He had been named as a witness to the June 11 interaction near the pump track board. Trevor said no behavior stood out. He recalled a comment involving a man and his son. He recalled a comment the man made about how would you tell this little kid no and thinking it was a low blow to use a kid like that. Or the man was just saying it in jest. He did not observe physical contact. He did not hear any reference to physical contact. Thank you, Trevor, for giving me what the city would not. And that is due process through him. And that is on a public record.

Your three minutes is up.

he tells me so i asked you okay well i asked why am i such a threat to you guys i must be doing my job right anyway this is bigger than me and we will get justice anyone else wishing to address the council we will close the first citizen comment period mayor we do have somebody on line with their hand raised sorry i missed that if you've got

If you're wishing to address the council, use the raise your hand feature and the clerk will bring you into the meeting.

Oh, no, their hand is no longer raised.

Okay. Oh, there's a hand raised.

Okay, Tawny, are you able to hear us?

She's muted.

Hello?

All right, there you go. Please identify yourself.

Okay, Tawny, are you able to hear us? I'm able to hear you. The reason I raised my hand wasn't because I was really going to make a comment. But it was because I can't hear you guys on the Zoom. It's like got the muted signal. So I have the YouTube open so I can hear you on the YouTube. But the Zoom is silent. So I just wanted to let you guys know that. Other than that, you're doing a good job. And I don't really have anything else to say tonight.

IT happens to be in the room. Thank you. They're aware of that. So thank you.

All right. Thank you. Have a great evening.

Okay. So we'll now close the first citizen comment period. We have a published consent agenda. Is there a motion to approve? Go ahead.

Mayor move to approve the consent agenda as presented. Second.

Motion by Councilmember Rospepe. Second by Councilmember Trenary to approve the consent agenda as presented. And before we do, I just want to make a note. Item C, the acceptance of the rotary bench, the staff DOESN'T SEEM TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PORT ORCHARD ROTARY CLUB AND THE SOUTH KITSAP ROTARY CLUB. THE FABULOUS PORT ORCHARD ROTARY CLUB MAINTAINS THE ROUND ABOUT IN FRONT OF THE BOWLING ALLEY. THE SOUTH KITSAP ROTARY CLUB DOES THE FABULOUS BENCHES ON OUR WATERFRONT. THE STAFF REPORT HAS THAT BACKWARDS. ANYWAY, BEYOND THAT, THANK YOU FOR THE ROTARY CLUB FOR PROVIDING THESE BENCHES TO OUR CITY. WITH THAT, ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE SAY AYE.

Aye.

Any opposed? Hearing none, the consent agenda is approved. We have three presentations tonight, the first of which is from our contract lobbyist. Brianna Murray is here to provide a discussion, a presentation around our legislative priorities. So Brianna, go ahead.

Yes, thank you, Mayor and Council. It's a pleasure to be here this evening. I am Brianna Murray with Gordon Thomas Honeywell Government Relations. Around this time last year, you were hearing from my colleague, Shelly Helder. Shelly has let me know that she would like to spend more time with her twin girls. And so I was the original advocate for City of Port Orchard from 2011 until I think 2018. And I'm very excited to be coming back to your community and serving as your lead advocate moving forward. Shelly is still around. She is not leaving our team entirely. I'm very thankful to have her expertise available. Over the next year, I'm going to be assisted by Kyle Schroeder. So he's joining me this evening. He's going to cover a couple slides. But I am your lead advocate moving forward. So with those introductions, I'm going to let Kyle provide you with a brief overview of what we plan to cover this evening and some context for the upcoming session. And then I'm gonna review for you all a draft legislative agenda. You should have a copy of the draft in your materials, so I would turn your attention to that so you can find that paper as Kyle's getting us introduced.

Thank you, Brianna. Good evening, Council. It's a pleasure to be here. As Brianna said, my name is Kyle Schroeder. I've been with the firm for about 10 years, and I'm excited to lean into the City of Port Orchard legislative issues. And thank you for allowing me to be here tonight. I'm going to provide just a quick overview of the agenda for tonight. I will give you a preview of the 2027 legislative session. Rihanna will dive into providing some of the guidance and recommendations that we typically give to our clients about the legislative agenda development process. Then she'll dive into some of the specifics of that legislative agenda, and then we'll talk about next steps and get some of your feedback on that legislative agenda comments or content. So as we begin this discussion, we'd like to give an overview of what's to come next year. No worries. We'd like to give an overview of where we're at for next year. For the 2027 session, we are going into the first year of our two-year biennium process. So the legislative process is two years in Washington state. The first year is a long session, which is about 105 days. The second year is a short session, which is about 60 days. So it's a two-year process, and we're starting the beginning of that, the new part of that next year. Following the 2026 legislative session, several legislators announced that they will not be continuing next year and will be ending their positions at the end of December. About half of the Senate is up for elections this year and all of the House of Representatives. Despite that, we predict that Democrats will still maintain the majorities in the state legislature. Based on the August primary results, however, it is likely that Democrats will continue to hold the majorities, as I just stated. After the November elections, the legislature will conduct a reorganization process where leadership positions in the Senate and the House will be up for redetermination, as well as committee membership positions and leaderships on those committees. After the November election, this is actually probably perhaps just as important as the election results is seeing what they do with this reorganization process, how they reconfigure the committees and the legislature. Yeah.

When did that happen?

That happens in November after the election.

So the results come out in November? Or mid-December.

Yeah.

What was that? I'm sorry? Yeah, no problem, thank you, I appreciate that. Just last point here, there are some major themes coming up for this legislative session. The first and most prominent here is the ongoing state budget challenges, which I'm sure you've heard about. For the third session in a row, legislators will have to balance a budget with costs that are rising faster than revenue streams. The most constrained of the three budgets is the operating budget, which is the largest and funds the K-12 education system. A ballot measure this November to repeal the millionaire's tax will make that a bit more complicated as this may impact future revenue streams. The transportation budget will also be constrained since the primary revenue sources for that, which is the gas tax, They're declining and have been for a few years now as gas utilization across the state is going down. The constrained budgets will also likely prompt discussions of tax policy overall, but we do not expect the legislature to pass any new taxes in 2027. The focus and the approach will likely just be on overall state tax code reform. And lastly, here we're hearing that legislators are particularly sensitive to affordability of housing, fuel, utility taxes, groceries, and other core cost of living elements. So that'll be, of course, a big theme for next year. So with that context in mind, I'm going to turn it back to Brianna. Thank you.

Thank you, Kyle, for that overview. And I would be remiss in not highlighting that you all have some potential turnover in your local legislative delegation with at least one seat and potentially more than one seat, although in my estimation, it seems like one seat is most likely. And so as we look toward, the idea is to take all that context into, you are so tall. That's okay, I'm just gonna take a moment to aggressively readjust the mic. Taking all that context into mind, we have a few guidelines for you all to follow as you're developing your legislative agenda. First and foremost, we encourage you to be as focused as possible in prioritizing the items that are most important to the city. These are the items that you want us as your lobbying team to dedicate our time and energy to advancing. It's what you all want to focus your time and energy on advocacy focused on. and it's what maybe most specifically you want your three local legislators to really lean in on and accomplish. Throughout the course of a legislative session, there are thousands of different bills that get introduced. There are dozens and dozens of different issues that legislators have come across their desk. The more focused we are, the more effective our legislative delegation can be on behalf of the city. This year, we're recommending that you include a capital funding request because of the state's three budgets, it is the most stable and presents the largest funding opportunity. The capital budget is funded with bonds that a portion of the operating budget are dedicated to pay off each year, and the capital budget is developed in a bipartisan fashion where they put together a series of, for lack of better word, earmarks to make up a portion of that budget. As I said, there's limited transportation and operating budget funds available. As we go through the legislative agenda, you'll note there are some transportation components because there's a broad recognition in the legislature that there's going to need to be some kind of a transportation funding solution identified. And if and when that transportation funding solution is identified, whether it's this year or in two years or three years, there's going to be transportation investments made and we want to be well positioned to receive those investments. So continuing to beat the drum on your transportation needs. So with that, I will turn your attention to the draft legislative priorities that are before you. They're outlined in bulleted form on the slide, but I'm really gonna be directing your attention to this document and walking you through what's identified as your top legislative priorities in this draft. The first item is focused on city budget sustainability and highlights that the city of Port Orchard, like many cities throughout the state, is facing budget challenges as service costs increase much faster than revenue streams. The Association of Washington Cities has made budget stability and financial sustainability their top priorities. priority going into this next legislative session, and I appreciate Mayor Patonsu's role on the AWC Legislative Priorities Committee in helping develop that recommendation. Within the heading of City Budgets Sustainability, there are a few different pointed requests that are referenced within this paragraph. The first is that within the millionaire's tax bill that was passed last legislative session, there were a series of sales and use tax exemptions included on over-the-counter medications, hygiene products, and a couple other items. Those sales and use tax exemptions applied to state and local sales tax, which means if and when the millionaire's tax is implemented, the city will receive a reduction in revenue. The legislature in the 2026 session as part of their deliberations on the millionaire's tax committed to mitigating those impacts through a city fiscal health account. However, that commitment to mitigate the impact is not much of a commitment until it is put in law and the distribution of those revenues are established in statute. So part of this item is advocating for the full funding of the city fiscal health account if the millionaire's tax is upheld and to advocate for the legislature to make good on the commitment that was made in 2026. In addition to that, there's also support for encouraging the legislature to fully fund state shared revenues. As the legislature works within a very limited amount of funding within the operating budget, historically they have shown an inclination to go into some of those state shared revenue accounts and make cuts that negatively impact your all's budget. This says preserve those state shared revenue accounts and actually if you could like enhance some of them, that would be great too. And then another request within here is asking for greater flexibility with some of your existing revenue streams. There are several areas of law where you all have been authorized to impose a tax or a fee. However, how you can use the revenue generated by that tax or fee is very restrained. And so loosening those restrictions to allow you to be more nimble in responding to community's needs is embodied within this paragraph. I'd also note at a much higher level that the state has been moving more and more toward a more progressive diversified tax structure. We saw not just the millionaire's tax enacted this last year, but a capital gains tax enacted a few years ago. We saw the state also make significant changes to how they calculate real estate excise taxes at the state level. State's making all these changes to the state's tax code. And what they're doing for the city tax code is they're handing you more local options sales tax that you can choose to enact either councilmanically or with voter approval. The challenge with that is that your budget is not getting diversified revenue streams. Your budget is becoming more regressive rather than more progressive. And at the same time, the state is moving the opposite direction. So this statement here also indicates that the city would support collaborative reform of the local tax structure and ask that as the state is doing its tax reform, that it fully consider what it does and what it means for the local tax code. In collaboration with the Association of Washington Cities, really trying to elevate this discussion on more holistic budget reform rather than just having them focus so specifically on the state budget.

I did the hard one first.

Moving on to the next item on the legislative priorities is a capital funding request for the Orchard Street Plaza. You all are familiar with the Orchard Street Plaza request project. We're outlining a request for $1 million in state funding for the project. We think $1 million is the appropriate amount of funding to capture the funding opportunities available in the capital budget. The next project is the water supply and the inner tie project. Governor Ferguson launched an initiative earlier this interim called Washington's Water Future where he went, he alongside Department of Ecology convened several regional stakeholder meetings to hear about the challenges that our state is facing in relation to water supply. And the city of Port Orchard participated in the regional discussion that was held for the Kitsap County region. It highlighted, the governor's effort highlighted that there's a great deal of state action and state leadership that's needed on water supply. His Department of Ecology and his office are expected to come out with recommendations between now and the beginning of the legislative session. And we're expecting legislators to pick up several of those recommendations and come up with many of their own ideas to have a robust discussion around water this upcoming session. We want to participate in that discussion, particularly given that the city is a foster pilot program. We also want to maximize any opportunities that emerge as a result of that statewide discussion. So in addition to noting that we want to participate in the policy discussion, we're also highlighting that we would like to make an additional request for the Intertie project. You all made a request successfully to the legislature for the Intertie project last legislative session and $1 million was appropriated. My understanding is that based on the current funding stack and the updated project costs, there's still a $2 million shortfall for that project. Our recommendation is that the city request the $2 million through the governor's budget development process. If the governor chooses to make the investment within his proposed capital budget, then we would advocate throughout the state legislative session for that funding. However, If he doesn't or really neither here nor there of whether or not he prioritizes it, the primary and priority capital funding request would be the Orchard Street Plaza request. So there's two requests here, both out of the capital budget. The Orchard Street Plaza request being the priority and the Intertie project being one that we're really going to try and capitalize on a broader conversation and opportunity that's occurring. I saw a hand.

Yeah, what was the name of the governor's initiative?

Washington Waters Future. Thank you. There's a good website, Department of Ecology website outlining their charge and the different activities that they have undertaken. Sure.

Okay, thank you.

I know that water is a really big issue here, even water supply, so if the Orchard Street has a first priority over the intertie. How would that work? Is it just because of the funding source, it would be easier to get that funding?

Correct, yes. We're pretty much putting forward two requests with the idea that there's multiple buckets within the capital budget, and we're trying to access both. But if we're asked to prioritize and pick one, which may happen, the Orchard Street Plaza would be the one that we would identify, in part because the state has already made a $1 million investment into the Intertie project. Moving on to the next legislative priority item. Last legislative session, we saw a bill introduced to ensure that vehicle license fees that you all impose through your transportation benefit district are imposed in an equitable fashion on all sizes or weights of vehicles. Right now, vehicle license fees are only imposed on vehicles weighing 6,000 pounds or less. Many of the newer passenger vehicles are heavier than that. So this proposal from last year would have increased that 6,000 pound threshold up to 9,000 pounds, which would mean that a vehicle license fee being paid by a Fiat would be the same as what's being paid by like an F-250 or F-350 vehicle. It's a way to ensure that the vehicle license fee is being applied equitably and also results in an increase in revenue collections for the city for transportation purposes.

And also some of the electric vehicles are exceeding that 6,000 pound and not having to pay license fees.

Thank you for that, Mayor. That's correct. And then finally is continuing to advocate for the Sedgwick roundabouts. This is a project that you all are familiar with and has been on your legislative agenda for the last several years. And again, to link this back to the guidance I provided earlier, we do anticipate there to be very limited funding within the transportation budget. But if and when a transportation funding opportunity comes available, we wanna make sure that this is on your all's list so that you can get these projects funded. If you turn to the second page of the document, there are a series of other important topics identified. I describe these as being items that we would engage on as part of a broad coalition or that we would be reacting to. These are not necessarily items where the city is leading or the tip of the spear. And in many cases, these conversations would likely be occurring but for the city's engagement and our engagement is helping inform, improve or modify some of the policy that's advancing through the process. I am inclined to not go through these in great detail and to happy to answer any questions about these items if you have questions. Many of these are items that have been on your list for several years and are carried over from previous efforts.

Go ahead.

Thank you, Mayor. So I just have a question about so I understand that the mayor was involved in the prioritization of the larger projects. I don't know if you were involved in all of this, too. All of it's important. I have just a question about whether or not There's a draft piece of legislation yet out on the issue around accessing camera footage to resolve retail theft crimes with ADLRs. I'm particularly interested in where that direction might be, like what direction it might be headed.

So where that came from is our police chief asking that Brianna put this on the list so that if a bill is introduced, that we're there supporting it. And what's happening right now at our box retailers They call 911 when retail theft happens. They want to give us the footage and they aren't allowed to give it. We can't take the footage from them until we get a warrant. If we have to go obtain a search warrant, then we can possess the footage. Until we get that warrant, we can't possess the footage that they want to hand us.

I have a question for that. Can I ask a follow-up?

Sure.

So how long does it take to get the warrant now?

Then we have to go sorry Then we have to wait for a judge to be available to get it Then we have to go through the process of the documentation to go along with it and then get it to their legal team at The business to then approve it through their legal team to then get it to us so it can be days it could be hours it could be extensive and when it's it could be a simple crime and or it could be an extensive crime, we're waiting and they're the victims of the scenario and it's their stuff that they want to provide to us.

And is the timing significantly, like, is the process of going through a warrant, of getting a warrant, rather, is that, maybe this is a conversation for later, I guess I'm just a little concerned about the access to, because I understand, like, I want to trust that we would only be accessing things within the scope of what we were looking for, but there is a much broader conversation happening nationally around ADLRs right now and accessing information that, like, for example, people have been stalked using this information. And so I guess I'm just a little concerned about that i'm not opposed to the concept of us having access to things i just don't know like if it is truly burdensome to go through the process of getting a warrant and i guess i just want to have more conversation about that if this comes up in the legislature so that we get it to a good place

I can offer the legislative context for this. So last legislative session, Senate Bill 6002 passed regulating automated license plate readers and really limiting their use throughout the state. It is anticipated that the legislature is going to consider refinements or adjustments to the bill that they passed last legislative session in light of some of the feedback that they've gotten on how that bill is being implemented. This would really call on us, if it is included in the legislative agenda, to within the development of that process to say, hey, we would also like the ability to access footage from ALPRs that are specific to commercial retail locations and ask for that amendment as the bill moves through the process.

Narrowly defined because that that's again where I'm just because the the footage belongs even though like it's the footage from the retail place Wherever it is, like let's say Lowe's as I understand it those that footage is Actually being housed in like a third party thing and so like there's a lot more access to footage there that may not necessarily be relevant and and I think that's just more where if this does come up in that refinement process, I hope that we look at trying to make sure that those protections continue to remain in the bill so that we get what we need out of that to help our retailers, but also at the same time protect the privacy of the people who live here.

That's more Dina.

So out of this list, that was one of the things that grabbed my attention as well. And so I'm just curious and I would enjoy a longer conversation. But would this include flock cameras like Lowe's has in their parking lot because it's trailer mounted and it reads license plates? And then what data would go along with that?

So we're not accessing or asking for access to any of that. We're only asking for the video pertaining to the crime. We want our police officers to be able to work a crime as quickly as possible. That's only what our ask is. It is very narrow.

On that line, you guys may just want to check in. AWC has done a lot of work on that. There are resources online if you guys have questions.

Thank you.

And perhaps as this draft evolves with your feedback this evening, we can add some clarifying language about it being narrowly tailored is what I'm hearing. Are there other questions or feedback on the draft?

Go ahead, Councilmember. I have a quick question. Thanks for the brief, first of all. We got our foot in the door on Sedgwick, which is a state highway, by being included in the Senate budget, obviously not the House. continue to beat that drum since it's a state highway. I almost feel like somewhat we're doing the state's work trying to get that funded, even though it does benefit us in the long run. That's why we keep it on the agenda. I understand. I was just wondering is there, you know.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that is why it's on the legislative agenda. We want to continue to put it in front of our local legislators. I think whether or not there is an opportunity, I mean, Let me back up. The Senate budget this last session proposed bonding significantly more transportation revenues. So the Senate proposal had within it a lot more resources to fund new projects. The House proposal did not propose the same level of bonding or much bonding at all. And then when they married the two proposals, they found a middle ground on how much money to bond. And that middle ground happened to be also with an agreement that no new projects would be funded. So I want to make sure that background is clear as far as why we were in one proposal, not the other proposal, and not the final proposal. I would imagine a very similar type of discussion is going to occur this next session, not just on whether or not to bond existing revenues, but also whether or not to change the revenue structure for the transportation budget. and whether or not new projects are in the mix, given that broader dynamic is unclear, but if it is in the mix, then we're gonna be well positioned with our local legislators to say, hey, I need this project in my district if you want me to vote for whether it's bonding or some other alternative transportation revenue source. Does that help?

Yep.

Okay.

Thanks.

Go ahead, Council Member.

Thank you. Brianna, I might, along the same vein on that topic, I had breakfast this morning with the four candidates of the 23rd Legislatives, and so you may check in with Rep Nance. He might be willing to horse trade. I hear there's a state-proposed roundabout out on Bainbridge Island that no one on the island wants, and so maybe they can direct some of those funds down south here.

Yes, I've been trying to get that project unfunded on behalf of City of Bainbridge Island, another client of ours now for a couple years. And as hard as it is to get a project funded, you would think it would be much easier to get a project unfunded.

Just a thought. It crossed my mind. You know, the one thing that's not – I shouldn't say it's on here, but it's not on page one that kind of makes the inside of my brain itch – I kind of got after some of my peers last week when we had to start talking about housing and housing affordability. And so we have in front of us the opportunity to raise fees once again that only adds to the price of housing uh... i would just ask that you lead every conversation this next session with uh... what have we done in the last ten years to bring down the price of housing not to subsidize or use tax dollars to help somebody else get into that housing but how do we actually change the code to make it cheaper so it's not a hundred and eighteen thousand dollars in permits and fees before i even buy my land And when you do that math in today's rate environment, even making minimum wage in this state, you couldn't afford the mortgage for just the permits and fees cost of housing in this state. So we have a lot of policies that don't work when they're layered together. But housing and unfunded mandates, we need to charge with that one every year.

just to clarify when you're talking about permits and fees you're talking about permits and fees that are not necessarily being imposed by the city but you know the state energy code the it's all it's all of the above it's all of the above yeah

So, Councilmember Diener.

Yeah, I just want to follow on that. The clarification on planning for housing. Was there language floating around that would have suggested cities be responsible for financing and construction?

Great question. So, this last year, there's been four growth management hearings board decisions that are interpreting the statute that created the mandate that you all plan for and accommodate all levels of housing, those four growth management hearings board decisions have conflicting language included within them that has many cities, city attorneys concerned that the result of a couple of those cases would result in a mandate that cities are responsible for funding and financing housing. So this is really in response to those growth management hearings, board decisions, and creating clarity based on the different decisions that have come out. I will note that I was on a call earlier today with some of my colleagues in the city, for the Association of Washington Cities and Association of Counties. And there is a concern that if we ask the legislature to clarify that we're not responsible for funding and financing housing, that they may choose to say, oh, but you are. And so how we approach this conversation, how the language is specifically drafted, is going to be something we tread carefully with.

Thank you.

Are we expected to, like, these are set in stone, or you are presenting this with the idea that we then now have to see which of these priorities we like or don't like?

This is the proposed draft agenda. We're taking feedback from you guys at this moment in time, and then probably in about a month we'll bring back for your guys's action. So Brianna has a resolution that says this is the city of Port Orchard's legislative priorities. So we're asking for your feedback on this.

And I want to go on record as also not liking the language that supports block and warrantless surveillance.

Council Member Mitchell.

So I have just a dumb question that maybe one of you could answer or you could answer. So the discussion around the cities being responsible for not just accommodating growth but like financing it, what does that mean? Like what in addition to everything else that we would be paying for? Like in addition to the infrastructure that we already do through impact fees, what else would we be paying for?

Noah would look like Dennis if that would happen.

I think the fear is that what that means is that you would need to identify revenue to prompt the construction of affordable housing in your community. It would look like issuing RFPs that nonprofit housing developers would respond to and would construct housing within the community. One of the challenges with the growth management hearings board decisions is that there are not revenue streams that are available to cities that are ample enough to meet the housing targets that have been identified and And I guess I would say that the Association of Washington Cities has been asking the legislature for more, to grant cities more funding tools for housing and the legislature has not granted those. So it would be a mandate to fund housing with no additional funding.

Fine, thank you.

Go ahead. I guess my question is, you said the word affordable housing I don't know that term. What exactly is? I'm just curious. It's thrown around a lot. What is affordable housing? Because over here, you're not buying anything for less than half a million dollars. And good luck doing that as well. I have two children who both have others who make significantly more than me. Individually. I mean significantly more than me. And they're not buying a home. They're not buying a home. College graduates, debt free, no car payments, great careers, they are not buying a house. It's extremely expensive. What's affordable? What qualifies that? A program where you help build your own house, build your own home? Those homes are still $400,000. Yeah.

Great question. And I would say from a statutory construction standpoint and from a state policy discussion, a lot of it is determined by sort of this sliding scale based on area median income. So some would argue that housing that is 80% of the area median income or below is affordable. Others would say it's 50% of the area median income or below, but it is a scale that changes based on community. It's not a statewide standard.

I can just share that we have housing targets in our plan by income bracket, and so we are supposed to provide, I think, 209 units of emergency temporary housing, 414 permanent supportive housing units affordable to people at 0% to 30% AMI, And then there's a 30 to 50% bracket. And so we have targets at each of those income levels for how many housing units are needed. And I think what the hearings board is suggesting is that we actually have an obligation to provide those housing units, not just allow them.

And I'll be clear, the law is not entirely clear. I mean, I think if you were to have someone walk in the door and say, there's this growth management hearings board decision and you shall fund this housing, I would imagine your city attorney would say, no, no, you're not responsible for doing that. That's not what these growth management hearings board decisions say. I do think that the language coming out in those decisions is concerning and we'd like to get clear information Legislative direction that that is not what they're saying very definitively. So that doesn't need to be litigated Thank you.

All right, so try to put a bow on this The the four decisions could we get those because I think it'd be worth following up with cities and seeing just how their reactions went and what they've done and Maybe some felt they were compelled to move forward and like to know what they did. I

Absolutely. I am excited to have Kyle on my team because he is also an attorney and he wrote a great memo and called through all four of those decisions in great detail.

Love to see it.

Yeah.

Thank you.

One more quick add. Anything that Kitsap Transit's advocating, I know we're working on getting Fast Ferries fully funded again out of the state as well. I think we'd like to add anything on a regional basis that we'd support as well.

And so just try to put a bow on this. So the first page is things Brianna and Kyle are gonna actively be working on for our behalf, trying to get money and projects funded. The second page is really, these are things that concern us that we as bills are presented that they're gonna weigh in and advocate on our behalf to make sure that these bills go the right direction and don't go sideways on us and unharm us. But the bills haven't, there aren't any bills dropped on any of these topics yet. It's just we're trying to be ahead of the game. Councilmember?

And so is AWC.

And ADBC just came out with their agenda today, was it today or yesterday? I just reviewed it. And some of the tax, the number one priority is about tax reform. The budget stability item. The budget stability items. That's the first on your all's list, yeah. Once again, ADBC's got two broad topics and then a list of things that we're gonna support, same concept. Yep.

all right so we'll bring this list back i don't think lots of great questions here we got some direction from you but i think as as presented we'll probably bring this back here in about a month and and if i can just recap i heard concerns about the alpr item a desire to have housing affordability called out more clearly and a desire to integrate the kids app transit requests into the purple into the that haven't been developed yet but they will be Okay, thank you all for your time and attention this evening. We're going to head on our way. If you think of any other feedback that you have between now and then, please let the mayor and myself know.

Thank you. Thanks very much. All right, we're gonna, we have a second presentation. We have a special guest here from Kitsap County. I think his name's Ryan. I didn't get a last name, but Ryan, you're gonna give us an update on the Kitsap County Courthouse Project.

Yes, hello, good evening.

I'm sorry, it's Timothy Gross. I'm reading.

Tim Gross, yeah. I was gonna correct you, but you beat me to it. My name is Tim Gross. I'm the Senior Engineering Manager for Capital Facilities at Kitsap County. We basically construct everything for the county except roads. They get to do that on their own. But I'd like to talk to you a little bit about the process the county's going through right now for the courthouse modernization. That's the most latest term that we've selected. See if I get the right buttons. And I apologize that it's small. This is not a working schedule that we're going through right now that documents the milestones that we've obtained already for the courthouse replacement, as well as identifying things that are coming up in the future. For those of you that are familiar with the courthouse project, I want to say in 2018, the county had undergone a feasibility analysis, a space planning process, and some schematic drawings that were put together by TAS architects. And that ended up resulting in a five-phase courthouse project with a price tag of about $350 million. And that was a little bit more than the county was able to afford. And so What I'm going to do is I'm going to walk you through right now some of the things we're working on now, some of the things that we'll be working on in the future and how we're taking that original plan that we had developed and moving it forward so we can still implement the project. So the first thing I'd like to talk about right here is the parking lots. Recently the city had vacated several rights away that were in an area where some parking needs to be constructed so we're able to build a courthouse. The courthouse right now does not have sufficient parking if you've ever been to the courthouse. It's a little bit of a free for all. The parking lots that we do have are gravel and so there's a plan for developing two new parking lots. Those were actually identified in the first phase of the plan, but they were called phase zero because they didn't really think about the parking lots until it's not working anymore. I'll just have you go through it for me if you could. There we go. So to begin with, we started the demolition. There was probably... A dozen properties and nine houses that have been purchased and somewhat abandoned for the last several years. We started the demolition process this summer. This is the generalized map showing what those properties are. Right now the contractor is clearing the brush from the properties. We're leaving any of the significant trees until we actually build the parking lots. There was some rat abatement that was done early on because the homes were significantly infested by rats. And so we wanted to make sure that they decided not to move to new homes. And so we had some rat abatement started up front. We are waiting on the termination of the gas services that go from the street to the houses so the contractor can safely demolish the house. The gas meters have been removed, but the gas lines are still live. And we didn't actually know that until we did the project. And so we're waiting on the gas company to finish terminating those lines. One of the houses at 803 Klein Street was really fascinating because it had been, the people that had owned the home had owned it since 1935. had lived in the home up until 1992 when the matron had passed away and nobody had been in the house since and So when we went into the house to identify things that needed to be removed or things that could be salvaged and taken and Given to habitat or humanity or wherever we came across all of their old war medals and uniforms and photographs and family historical historical family items the The gentleman, Mr. Adams, who owned the home, was a World War I vet. He had a series of medals from World War I. Son flew in the Strategic Air Command. There were photographs. The ones on the top were derogotypes from the mid-1850s, and we came across hundreds of photographs and memorabilia, and so the Kitsap Historical Society came to the home, and we walked through the home together, and they were able to collect a lot. After they left, we went and collected more, and we're working with the county right now to be able to return some of those goods to the last surviving Adams, Stephan Adams. It was like walking into Ozzie and Harriet's house. You went upstairs and there was his bedroom, her bedroom, and his bedroom. And he died in 1967. His pressed white shirts were still there. His uniform was laid out in the bed. It was really pretty fascinating. Next, we'll talk a little bit about the parking lots themselves. There are two parking lots. This one, if you use your imagination and you sort of tilt your head to the right, north is to the right, this is at the corner of Sydney and Division Street, and right now there's a gravel lot right at the corner, then there's a house in between, and then it blurs into the sheriff's parking lot. And so this is a conceptual drawing that was provided to our consultants to talk about the various things that we wanted to include in the parking lot and the impacts that it would have. Obviously there's going to be the required number of ADA parking spaces, as well as electric vehicle charging stations. And we're thinking about how we can navigate vehicles for people and patrons that are going to the courthouse. And I would imagine this would probably be the primary parking lot where jurors and others who are visiting the courthouse facility will park. Because as you see, our next parking lot is a little bit farther away. This is a southern parking lot. The courthouse is to the north, up on the top of the screen. You can just see the bottom part of the jail. And this is the area where the bulk of the property clearing is happening right now. If you look back at the five phase project for the courthouse, this was phase zero A and B. And it's called zero A and B because if you split the parking lot down the middle, phase A is the north half and phase B is the south half. The reason it was split that way is because that was the properties we were able to acquire in the order that we were able to acquire them. There's one last property that we have not acquired yet that precludes us from building the southern half. If we're able to acquire that property in a short order, we would add it into the overall project and build a parking lot as a single phase instead of two phases. This adds a significant amount of parking for the county. roughly 400 plus spaces. The challenge with this parking lot is that there's no way you can make this ADA accessible in any way. And so we're identifying locations around the county courthouse where we would be able to do accessible spaces that are much closer to the property, are much flatter for the property, and obviously we'll have to work with the city to be able to not put the ADA spaces in the parking lot, but put them in places that are easier for them to use and are actually close to the building. Because the distance from here to some of the northern buildings is almost 1,000 feet and the elevation goes down probably 50 feet. I've spoken with several people who are disabled in wheelchairs and they talk about how difficult it is for them to navigate the courthouse site. And so in addition to the parking lot, there are also pedestrian improvements that we need to work on. Again, I apologize, the screen's a little low. Go ahead.

So full disclosure, I'm a county employee and I might be using this parking lot, but I'm just curious about the pay kiosk.

So the parking lot is intended to be a paid parking lot. The county right now has a parking program for county employees where you can pay out of your paycheck per month and you can park closer to the building. And so in this particular, for both parking lots, the county desires that the parking lots would be a paid parking lot. A portion thereof would be probably partitioned off for employees who would go through the same program and then the rest of the parking lot would be eligible for county employees or visitors or whomever to come and pay, excuse me, to pay and park there. I believe there's an agreement with the city that is being negotiated right now that was actually part of the right-of-way vacation about the use of the city in this lot. And so the way these gates would work, there's some discussions about license plate readers likely, When city employees come to park there, the license plate reader would recognize their license plate as a county employee. They don't have to scan anything or do anything, and the gate would open, and then they go. You could have them pay on a monthly basis or whatever. Other people coming into the parking lot, it would recognize their license plate as well, but when they leave, then it would be able to tell how long they had paid there, so there's no card swiping or anything, unless for whatever reason you're missing your license plate or something, and then you'd have to take a ticket or pay with a credit card. The details on how that paid parking system will work is still in the works, but it's generally an online system. It goes and the card readers communicate with the cloud and you can control it from a computer anywhere. And the idea being that any of the public parking lots that were constructed by the county would be paid and then those resources would be used to go back in for maintaining that parking lot and for paying for all the other things that need to happen to keep that parking lot in good condition.

Thank you. That's for Devin.

The county looking at the cost, like the different options in terms of the cost upfront and also the maintenance? talking about this like automated license plate reader thing to automate coming in and out. If there's other options, are they looking at that and are they costing it out?

So when I first started putting the concept together, I was arguing about putting gates in at all. But without parking gates, you have to have an on-site person doing parking enforcement. um with the parking gates then it reduces your overall long-term operating costs as opposed to your upfront capital costs because frankly people are the most expensive and so what you end up having is that short of somebody damaged something or doing something illicit you would probably have a time limit in your parking lot you know nobody parked more than 24 hours or more than 18 hours or whatever you choose And you can go online to the parking control management software and identify immediately if somebody is in violation because they parked there too long. It's mostly to keep people who are camping or parking their car there for a weekend or whatever you have. And so the infrastructure upfront cost is significant. I've gotten quotes from parking vendor systems where you not only are putting in the infrastructure but you're paying, you know, an annual fee for maintaining the webpage. and the software that is tracking. And then on top of that, there's a revenue capture process where you're capturing revenue through credit card payments or whatever, and then that gets transferred to the county. So it's complicated. It's probably the one topic of these parking lots that we've talked about more than any other is the paid parking. Again, my apologies because the map is small. It's hard to show six blocks in a map. But the southern parking lot is at the bottom. Northern parking lot is at the north, the top right. And you can see the courthouse building and jail. The challenge with the southern parking lot is there's really not great pedestrian access between the parking lot and the building where people are going to. The top two buildings, the top left is the administration building, and there's a lot of customers that go to that building. The top right is the public works building, and that's where I work, and that's mostly employees. But the entrance to the courthouse for our patrons is only on the north side and now the parking lot that we're building Is on the south side and so it's a long way for people to be able to walk to the courthouse This is a temporary issue Because as we get into the construction of the courthouse, it will change where the entrance of the courthouse will be the five phased Project that was proposed actually still had the entrance to the courthouse on the north side and that is functionally not, that won't functionally really work very well because we have no choice in where the parking lot will go and where people will walk. In the meantime, we're developing two pedestrian walkways on both sides of the jail campus that will allow employees to gain access to the back of the courthouse and then both employees and patrons to be able to walk on the east side of the courthouse and it reduces the topography rather significantly. When you get down into the courthouse proper, it's somewhat flat. But when you're coming down from Smith and down, it's quite a bit of topography. And so ideally it will help make the walk a little bit less onerous. We looked into covering those walkways as well because it is a long way. The covering on the pedestrian walkways was four times the cost of the walkways themselves and so we're still looking into that. But this is the general concept. The civil engineer is working on the design of these two parking lots right now. Our survey is almost, is already complete. And they will be reaching out to the city for discussions on frontage improvements, permits, and some of the other things that will be necessary as part of this construction. We're anticipating bringing this project to bid next spring, probably March-ish, with the summertime construction and hopefully having the parking lot online sometime in July or August.

That's where do you know you had a question?

Yeah, I think you're going to jump to the next slide that shows the five phases Right after that So there's phase five is the parking garage and I'm sorry I jumped ahead we can go back But my question is is the parking garage required to meet your required parking on site?

Maybe and the reason I say that is because I And we don't need to go back. This is just the courthouse modernization project itself. This is the 3D rendering of the five-phase project. And like you said, the fifth phase is that parking garage. The space needs of the courthouse are not growing as fast as the projections from the architect had envisioned. And there are departments that are currently housed within the courthouse that probably won't be housed within the courthouse when we build the courthouse, IT being one of them. We're looking at actually relocating them out of the courthouse itself. And so the square footage of the courthouse, the proposed courthouse is probably more likely gonna be similar to what it is now. And then we would need a parking garage. I mean, we're very, very close. As we get into the design process of the new courthouse building itself and we reanalyze the space use and the amount of employees and the required parking that goes along with the square footage of the building and other uses, then we'll have to evaluate that again. The parking garage of the five phase Courthouse project was by far the most expensive per square foot and so right out of the gate the parking garage was just out the window because it would be far less expensive to simply buy more property and build more surface parking if it came to that but As I mentioned we're adding over 400 spaces and That's not really a true statement because there are spaces that we're using now that aren't really developed parking lots. But I would, if I had to guess, we're probably netting a couple hundred spaces more with the new parking lots than what we have now, at least. The southern parking lot is about 400 spaces, but there's already a bit of a parking lot there now.

So I just want to follow up that, you know, with the county growing and the city growing and there could be need for additional parking. And I'd hate to see that there be a parking deficit after all this is done. But at the same time, I understand it's very, very expensive to construct a parking garage, structured parking for Devin.

Looking at these phases, this may seem like a silly question, it's called courthouse modernization, but there's going to be more than just the courthouse being built? Or is it just the courthouse?

Let me continue, and hopefully I'll answer your question for you.

Yeah, thanks.

Appreciate it. So this is the 3D rendering of the five-phase courthouse project that was started in 2018. The cost of this is $350 million. It shows all the various components of this. This is sort of the 2D version of that. The existing courthouse is the long triangle in the middle. And then phase one and two of the proposed five phase is the long triangle going right to left. And then the parking garage is on the south. The courthouse is made up of a variety of departments that support the judicial system. The clerk's office, prosecution, defense, the district court, the superior court. Immediately adjacent to it is the jail that includes the sheriff's department. Juvenile services plays a little bit of part here. There is the Kitsap Recovery Center here. And they all have functions within the judicial system. And so part of the courthouse design is considering how those various departments work with one another. So for example, on the phase project, the very first phase would be the superior court, the left-right triangle or excuse me, rectangle on the top. But the clerk's office that handles the evidence and everything else is at the south side of the building, and there's no good continuous connection between the courts and the clerks. Well, they have to move drugs and guns and things through the open hallways where the public is. And so... A lot of the design process will be about how those different departments work together within the courthouse so that it makes sense and it's safe. The single biggest concern in the courthouse right now is there's no safe way to move inmates between the jail and the court without moving them through the public corridors. And so that's something that has to be resolved. And if you take a look at the Five Faith Project, you can actually see a little red Lying there. That's an above-ground Inmate corridor that would connect the jail with the courthouse There were dedicated elevators for inmate moving inmates And the challenge was that those same quarters will likely need to be used by the clerk's office and so they weren't really connected well and So we have some work ahead of us because the design didn't quite work well. It had a lot of extra stuff that we didn't need in the courthouse. And so I'm going to move on a little bit to what we're working on now. The courthouse modernization project. That's the new name for it. The courthouse, if you're not aware, has had seven additions over the course of its lifetime. The oldest is 1935, and the most recent is 1978. And the 1978 portion is the sheriff's department. You can see in the light gray the jail, and the sheriff's department is immediately to the right of it. That's the portion that we'll likely keep, and that was done in 78. It is unlikely that we would keep any of the rest of the courthouse the condition of it is so poor and it's been so Frankenstein we call it our Frankenstein building that it doesn't function well anymore and to try and rehabilitate that building is probably not as cost-effective as just simply building a new building and So we're taking what we can out of the five-phase design and we're moving forward with a new process for the courthouse It will likely be constructed where phase one and two are shown as a single phase project, and we're advancing it using a design build, progressive design build delivery method. In April, the council, excuse me, the county commission basically gave the directive to cap the project value at $100 million. The county has been saving funds through REIT over the last several years and has accumulated about $40 million for the project already. The remainder will be through debt service funded through future REIT revenues. And through the progressive design build process, we will be doing a design through what they call a target value design, where we have $100 million design cap. We bring our design team together. First thing we do is we validate if we can actually build a courthouse for $100 million. And then we work together to try and build as much as we can with the money that we have on hand. And probably, I mean, it's certainly not gonna be as fancy as a courthouse that was presented in the five phase design, but I think it will be far more economical and functional when we go through that design process. If you're not familiar with progressive design build, It's a very different delivery methodology in that right now I'm working on pulling together an owner's advisor who is an organization that has gone through this process before and they can guide both our staff and our engineers and our contractor in that process and it's very collaborative. We have to get approval through the state's department of environmental services through their project review community to do that as an alternative delivery method. We're gonna be going before the board in December. And then we will be going out and doing a market analysis, which is basically like a one stop, if you will, for contractors who do design build processes, looking for interest and contractors who wanna do the work here. And then we will, in the spring, be going out and doing an RFQ to be able to select that design team. It will be comprised of both a contractor and an architect to begin with, and then we will bring on specialty trades over the course of that project. The goal being with the Progressive Design Build is you work collaboratively to try and find the best value that you can to deliver the goals that you have in the project. So over the course of the last several months, I've been meeting with the various departments within the courthouse and talked to them about what their current challenges are, what their growth, what their planned growth is gonna be like, where they think their operations will be in the next 10, 15, 20 years, how they work together, what they need out of a courthouse and what they really value. and so through that we're putting together basically what you would call a business plan which is identifying all the things within the courthouse that are you have to have this in your courthouse or here are the values and the missions that you want to be considered when you're going through that design process And through that progressive design build, you're able to evaluate the various ways you would construct that building, considering that business plan and those missions and visions and being able to deliver as much as you can for the money that you have, if that makes any sense. So we might not get as much as we want, but we're going to get something that works a heck of a lot better than what we have. And so the anticipated construction schedule of this is that we will probably begin our progressive design-build process middle of next year, and you'll probably start seeing us breaking ground in 28, anticipating probably a full three-year construction cycle. One of the most challenging parts of the five-phase plan that our architects had originally put together was that they would build portions of that in phases, obviously five phases, And some people would stay in the courthouse and some people would move into the new courthouse. And then they had what they called an adaptive reuse of the existing courthouse. Well, they would remodel until the city saved or the county saved enough money to be able to finish the rest of the project. The judicial system doesn't work that way. We can't postpone trials. We can't. move people around because they have certain record requirements and they have certain evidence storage requirements and so really it's going to have to be one fell move over to a new building and so what we anticipate happening is the existing courthouse will stay in operation the way it is we will continue to maintain that structure as best as we can we're in the process of putting the second part of a roof on the building it leaks like a sieve right now the county is invested now It's gonna be a little over five million dollars just in a roof and a building will probably tear down in three years But it's necessary. So that building will stay will build a new brand new building Will Commission the new building we'll get it fully operational and then I'll move everybody over after that takes place the Sheriff's Department will stay where it's at and so we'll have to separate the 1935 building from the 1978 building and and rehabilitate the sheriff's department and a portion of the jail so that it can stay. And then it will be likely where the courthouse says will be an open plaza or something along those lines. That's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. Here's our anticipated schedule. As I mentioned, the market's on and will probably take place early in the year, February, where we'll sell our project. December, I'll be presenting before the BRC to get approval to do a progressive design build, but this project is exactly in the sweet spot for that because it's such a specialty type of design. The idea behind a progressive design build is you're able to adapt based on the needs of a very special project. It's not something that somebody can just simply go in and design and then you get a contract and build and expect it to work. It's quite unique. And most of the progressive design builds you see are schools and courthouses. Um, and so, uh, hopefully July of next year we'll be under, under a design process and then I'll be able to come back and give you a further update. And that is where we're at. Do you have any other questions for me?

Council member Rosepepe. Actually, I want to say thank you for coming tonight because it's been quite a few years since we've had a brief and an update and some of us were wondering what was going on or what was, you know, what, the schedule was, so this helps a lot to let us know what's happening in our city, and I look forward to seeing you again. That's Merchant Eric.

Yeah, Mr. Gross, thanks for coming. In your initial, the old version, five-phase upgrade, I noticed there's a public plaza. It looks like it was in the place of where Division Street is now. Do you envision that

Happening the same way or similarly in closing division for the progressive design build I'm gonna say probably not and the reason is it doesn't provide any value to the courthouse When you took a look at the original parking lot designs that were actually in permit at the city There were frontage improvements that were being completed as part of the parking lot and other things that didn't add value to the parking lot and When I went in and took a look at the cost of the parking lots themselves and the additional parking spaces that they were providing, I was able to eliminate a quarter million dollars in construction costs and add 15 spaces simply by only doing the things that we needed to to provide for the parking spaces. And so in the same breath, the courthouse is going to be very focused around how to make that courthouse work well for the public, how to make it welcoming, how to make it non-confrontational, how to make the courthouses, the courtrooms work well, how to make it work well between all the various departments that support that judicial system. It might not be a great, pretty building on the outside, and I don't really see the need to close Division Street and make a plaza. because it doesn't help the judicial system at all. That said, we haven't gone through the design process. I'm not 100% sure where we're gonna land. It's just educated guesses based on what adds value to the project.

all right thank you wanted to comment about the plaza i mean i know you mentioned that it may not add value for the courthouse but having worked on on the campus for quite a while there's not a lot of space for people to go outside and enjoy their lunch and so i saw this plaza as really a great feature that would accommodate public works the admin people and the courthouse and sheriffs if they wanted to hang out outside over their lunch hour or perhaps even have a walking meeting or something like that. I was actually intrigued and excited by that feature, and I hope we can stick with it.

So I'm going to back up a little bit. I really don't think that we're going to see Division Street move. But where the old courthouse is will be a giant open space because that building will come down. We don't have any plans for building a new building in that location. And so I think it's going to be very likely you will have some sort of plaza. It's just you probably won't close Division Street to do it or make Division Street one way.

And that's not shown in here, though, is it?

It's not. I don't have any design concepts of the future. I'm really just showing you based off the old site plans that we had before. I probably should draft something up like I did for the parking lots to communicate my message. The main entry to the courthouse will change. It will very likely be on the south side of the courthouse between the jail and the courthouse. And that parking lot will look very different. And people will be able to walk from one side, from the south side to the north side through the middle of the courthouse campus. And so I don't know what it will ultimately look like, but I think it will be ultimately some sort of a plaza or gathering place. And it will make the navigation of the courthouse a lot easier.

Thank you, that's appreciated.

And I know you'll be working with our public works team in our department of community development for this permitting process. But part of that solution on division two is there's an unsafe condition there as people come up the hill, they make the left turn. And it's just blind to pedestrians.

And so if nothing else the one-way solution probably Helps helps with that making it one way so you can't make that left turn at least legally we have to think a little bit about the whole plan because You know part of the parking design that was submitted to the city earlier had been doing some landscaping and some street front to work on the north side of Taylor and the very south side of the courthouse campus and but I'm doing a bunch of work there in the next few years. I don't wanna touch that side of the road until that courthouse comes along. And so what I think you're gonna see is we have to keep in mind a little bit what the overall courthouse campus is gonna look like, but work on the things we know we're not gonna have to redo again. And then when that building gets done and that corner gets changed, I mean, I mean, that might be a great place for a roundabout. We'll have the space, and then the site distance issue won't be quite so onerous as it is now. There's some landscaping there that's kind of bad, and there's some other architectural features that are actually contributing to that. And I think all of those things can be addressed in some capacity.

Mayor Redekopal. Yeah, I want to thank you for coming tonight and explaining all this to us. Detail that you have full disclosure. I'm a county employee myself Been visiting this campus for 30 plus years I've watched all of it Grow over the years and new buildings and whatnot and I've seen the parking struggles increase even more because like everyone knows the campus is the county is growing and We don't have more land Now we do I appreciate you looking at it fiscally and utilizing the space the best way possible. You know, how you went around and talked to the departments and whatnot, and that's super important. As a taxpayer, someone who lives in the county, I really appreciate the route that the county is going on that. The comment about the IT, I'm just going to say, we always say that they're actually under the courthouse.

It's true, yeah.

Where they're located, you know. But I really appreciate you coming out tonight and explaining this to us. Thank you.

Yeah, there are some creative ideas that we've had because the cost of building a courthouse is very expensive on a square footage basis, you know, $400 to $650 per square foot. It doesn't make sense to me to have a department that doesn't need to be in a courthouse in the courthouse if we have other facilities that we could rehabilitate and make a great IT department and location for the server at half the cost per square foot is in the courthouse and then you take those 25 plus employees out of there and it doesn't add on to your issues with parking and other things. And so we've had a lot of discussions about how that's gonna look. The IT department is all over that. It's still a policy decision that we have to make within the county. But I think when you show the dollars and cents of how that will work, it'll probably play out that way.

All right. Thank you, Mr. Gross. Thank you very much.

Thank you. I will be back in six-ish months or so and let you know where we're at. I'll be hitting up these guys soon. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

One of the one of the things I remember from the pre COVID presentation was that the accused and the accuser would pass each other in the same hallway.

Yeah, currently yes. Yeah, yeah, it's not. It's not a good situation up there. Alright, we're going to jump into what we've all been waiting for is Noah Crocker's fabulous capital projects preliminary budget presentation. So Mr. Crocker go ahead.

all right let's get started here tonight so we've already talked operating tonight we're going to talk capital um there we go can we push that forward can everyone see okay so we're just going to briefly walk through each of the funds and its overall impact you see overall we're proposing a 75 million dollar capital budget amongst all the funds no can you just make sure you're speaking into a microphone somewhere

Is that better? Charlie's handing you a microphone. There you go. Okay, is that better? A lot better.

Until you broke it. It's okay, we're gonna survive. Okay, we'll look at fund 302 first, which is our general construction fund. We have four projects budgeted. And Mayor, maybe you want to talk a little bit about the 730 prospect remodel first. We have $165,000 in the current budget for that remodel proposal.

We haven't gotten to it. He's jumping ahead and asking questions over here. So we're gonna wait.

He's talking about it right now. Prospect.

Is it on the slide? Okay. Prospect Street. So what that is is the current county currently leases that building from us. Okay. So we have three courses. So I've offered to renew that lease with the county at a discount because we'd like to keep them in there. Remember it has an elevator. that doesn't function. And for the rent discount, we've said, hey, please stay in the building and we'll knock $500 a month off the rent. They are doing a holistic look at the county campus, at all of their different space, and they're not sure what they're gonna do. They'd like to get that operation in their building. So if they vacate, I have talked to a local real estate broker with SIOP coming, MAYBE WE SHOULD HIRE A BROKER AND ATTEMPT TO LEASE THAT BUILDING OUT AT MARKET RENT. WE KNOW WE'RE BELOW MARKET RENT. SO LET'S GO EXPLORE THAT. IF WE'RE GOING TO GET MARKET RENT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUILDING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. WE KNOW THAT THE ELEVATOR ALONE IS $140,000. AND THE TENANT HASN'T MOVED OUT YET. SO IT'S A PLUG NUMBER IN THE BUDGET FROM THE CAPITAL BUDGET. That scenario doesn't work out. It would be desirable to have everybody in the building department under one, we've got leased space, another small building over here to remodel that to suit our needs. So it's a number that, we could get used and there's going to be more conversation after we determine whether the county stays in the building or not so good question thank you uh yeah uh for a future reference can we put 730 prospect bldg on there so i'm not thinking that it's a street that's a street project yeah there you go thank you fair fair point it's a building not a yeah yep um

A MOVE ON TO PROJECT ACCOUNT NUMBER 53 WHICH IS GIVENS PARK. SO WE'VE COMPLETED GIVENS PARK. THIS $25,000 IS REALLY A RETAINAGE SO WE WOULD RELEASE IT TO OUR SUBCONTRACTOR WHO HAS NOT YET COMPLETED THEIR PAPERWORK WITH THE STATE IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THEIR FINAL PAYMENT. SO IT'S REALLY A CONTINUING APPROPRIATION FOR THE NEXT BIENNIUM. NOW BACK TO THE COMMUNITY EVENT CENTER. WE HAVE $35 MILLION IN THE BUDGET. We talked about and broke down the community event center, I think it was two meetings ago, talked about all the funding sources and expenses, but at a real high level, roughly $29.8 million for the community event center itself with $5.4 million for the plaza to make up $35 million. Again, this is being funded through borrowing, funds from the library, funds from the KPFT, our parking pack fees, as well as some general fund. Any questions on any of these projects before I move on to the Street Fund? So the street fund is our biggest project list here, and I'm gonna ask Director Ryan here to talk a little bit about the Bay Street pathway, two appropriations. First, project number 11 for the 125,000, and then project number 27, tip 1.27 for the design and construction. And I'm asking for him to talk about those together, because it's the same project in general. So Director Ryan, do you have some comments to make on that?

Yeah, so the Bay Street Pathway Project, we currently have a request in with the Washington State Department of Local Programs and who is working on behalf of the Federal Highway Commission because they are the local agent that disperses the fund. We have a request in to segment the project to construct the project to Mitchell Point. That's our first priority. We are waiting for that approval. If we get that approval, we'll have to get a new certified right-of-way plan. and then that means a potential right-of-way acquisition so we can get closer towards construction. That is designed to that point.

And that right-of-way is tied, Lance.

Okay. And Director Ryan, don't go anywhere because I'm going to ask you to talk about Bethel Lincoln, Bethel Mitchell. But the $100,000 for Bethel Mitchell, again, we've completed that project in this biennium. There could be some retainage, some kind of carryover costs from Puget Sound Energy. So I'm putting a placeholder for that. Now, again, if it gets completed in this biennium, we'll clean that up in the First Amendment of the new biennium. Bethel Lincoln, again, this is to complete the full design and construction. We talked a little bit about the Transportation Committee today. Director Ryan, do you have any further comments?

I'm sorry, the construction for that was 2028, correct? Is that what we're targeting?

Yeah, we're targeting 2028, but it's totally, we're held hostage by a federal permitting process, environmental permitting processes. So if we're ready to go, it's just getting the permits.

Sorry, you're on the committee today. He said expect approval from the federal in 2028, in spring of 29, construction.

It could be.

That's what he said.

So we honestly don't know it's when whenever we get we're ready to go and we'd like to have money in the budget to build this it's mostly federally funded other than our match we just have to wait to get the environmental approvals from the federal government and it's about the tire compound issues that we've been battling for three years or more.

So they can't get it done in six years?

That's in the federal government's hands.

And what does our congressperson have to say about that?

It has to do with... Tire compounds.

I understand that, but it's just six years.

At some point, were they covering all the cost increases as well? The first, it hasn't been six years.

We've been waiting three and we're going to get 2028.

We're going to get there. Just recently, we were given a path forward that they're now reviewing.

So I don't think you got my support there. We should be actively doing something at the federal level. Six years for a permit is out of control. Out of control. Don't disagree with you, sir.

So the only other comment I want to support was the mayor commented on this that we have $1.5 million of a federal grant for that project with the remainder coming from transportation impact fee funds to cover it. Again, it's a wait and see project. So we'll move forth that. The next project number.

Sorry, you said that so quickly. Can you state that one more time?

Yeah, so from the funding source standpoint, we have a $1.5 million federal grant, and the remainder is coming from our transportation impact fees for the $1.4 million. The next project we're in talk about is the salmon very blueberry design and railway phase so this 3.4 million dollar encompasses design and completing right away in 2027 we anticipate construction to begin in 2028 and so we will bring forward a budget amendment mid biennium or when we get closer to that point to fully fund the construction portion of that project.

So that design is just about wrapped up. We are heavily in the right-of-way phase. Offers have been going out. We will bring those offers to this council for approval once we get acceptance of those offers. So I think there's over 40 separate property owners that we're navigating.

And this dollar hold is, we've spent a good chunk of those dollars already. BECAUSE WE'RE 90% DESIGN. I'VE SEEN A 90% DESIGN, RIGHT?

A LOT OF THIS IS RIGHT-OF-WAY.

SO THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE RIGHT-OF-WAY. RIGHT-OF-WAY AND FINISHING THE DESIGN.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE CORRECT. NEXT PROJECT IS THE BIG ONE.

SO WHERE ARE WE PERCENTAGE-WISE ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? WE HAVEN'T BOUGHT ANY YET.

NO, WE HAVE OFFERS TO PROBABLY 15%. I HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANYONE SIGNING AN OFFER LETTER.

BUT THEY'RE OUT THERE? YES. ACTIVELY WORKING THAT PROCESS. AND THESE NUMBERS ARE COMING FROM OUR APPRAISER.

THE NEXT PROJECT IS PROJECT 42, SR 166 BAY STREET RECONSTRUCTION. NOW, I WILL MENTION THAT THE TOTAL FOR THAT PROJECT IS ROUGHLY $12.4 MILLION. YOU SEE THE 9.7 IN THE TRANSPORTATION. WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE STORM, WATER AND SEWER. BUT OVERALL, THE TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET IN THIS BIENNIAL BUDGET IS $12.4 MILLION.

And this or correct or maybe you have any comments on that project just that we are preparing the specs for that looks like our federal obligated funds are going to be released we received a letter from washed out local programs and we are heavily working on the bid spec for that so we should be seeing that going out fairly soon.

And these temporary construction easements will come back to you hopefully in 2 weeks but definitely next month.

NEXT PROJECT 45, TIP 1.14. THAT IS A CURRENT PROJECT. AGAIN, THE $510,000 IS TRULY ME ANTICIPATING SOME OF THE COSTS WOULD OVERRUN INTO 27, 28. I THINK WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS NOW. SO AGAIN, MANY OF THESE PROJECTS FROM A BUDGETARY PERSPECTIVE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE EXPENDITURE AUTHORITY TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT AS IT KIND OF MOVES INTO THE NEXT BIENNIUM. So this is a project that might get complete this fiscal year, and so again, we'll clean that up in the first budget amendment in our 2027 period.

Council Member Dedman.

How much do we get in transport impact fees?

I will have to get back to you on that. Do you want a fiscal year number? Just one fiscal year?

That would fall under the biennium.

For the biennium? Yes. Are you talking about the upcoming biennium or the current biennium? The upcoming is a projection.

Yeah, how about both?

Thank you. And actually, we will talk a lot more about the impact fee fund on October 13th. SO AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THE BUDGET CONVERSATION WITH EACH MEETING. I INTEND TO TALK ABOUT REIT, SOAR FUND 109, AS WELL AS FUND 111, AS WELL AS DEBT SERVICE AT THAT OCTOBER MEETING. SO I THINK I'LL BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK THEN, IF THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. TREEMONT PHASE 2 AND 3, AGAIN, THIS IS A FULLY FUNDED WITH GRANT PROJECT, REAPPROPRIATION. under that design right now. So it's a guesstimate, but we're slowly making progress. I don't know, Director Ryan, if we have any update if that's going to get completed this year or if that we think will continue to lead over.

That'll continue into the next biennium.

Anderson Hill Roundabout. This $195,000 is just for completing design. Again, this could become a construction project in 2028. We'll bring it back mid biennium. We'll review the full financing plan for the construction at that time after we've kind of got our construction award bids for our other transportation projects and can fully evaluate the funding for all these projects.

Gonna be a lot of construction in 2028. A lot of construction in 2027 too.

And the last project on this list is designed for Frederick Street for $350,000. Again, it's a current biennial appropriation. It could bleed over into the next biennium.

And that particular project was at one point going to happen at the same time as Bay Street when the bank project was active. This is just making sure all the utilities and everything are designed for when we, the next project comes along, which we hope is soon. So Council Member Rosbeck.

No, I know it's just a Scrivener, so I'm kind of channeling for Beck, but if we just put Salmonberry in, YOU KNOW, FOR ANYBODY ELSE LOOKING AT THE SLIDES, IT WON'T CONFUSE THEM. THAT'S ALL. IT'S THE SCRIBNER. WHERE ARE YOU REFERRING TO?

I SEE IT.

PA 38. YEP.

WE CAN FIX THAT. SO OVERALL FOR OUR TRANSPORTATION OR STREET CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUND, ROUGHLY $18 MILLION IS INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET. So we'll move on to water. And I guess I'll ask Director Ryan to talk first about the pressure reducing valve station project.

So that is just part of our water resiliency. So we can move water between our upper reservoir at Banshee Park into this downtown system. They're on two separate systems. If you recall, we talked about our well seven issues that we're having and we're going to have to rehab that. This will allow us to move water between those two zones. So that is just one of those things that we are building for a more resilient water system.

And would you mind talking also about the booster station? Yes.

The military booster station, they fired it up last week. They were doing some troubleshooting on the new generator, but that is coming online. So this is probably just going to be mostly retainage.

Yeah. Project 42, again, this is the water element of that project, roughly $1.1 million for the Bay Street reconstruction. The next project is the foster mitigation project.

So this week, we just received our draft mitigation plan back from our consultants. We will be presenting that to the Department of Ecology for review. We are also presenting that to both the Suquamish and the Squaxin Island tribes, and we are providing them draft memorandums of understanding. So that process should start progressing.

And the last project on this list, as everyone's aware of, is old Clifton Water Main Intertie Project. It's an important project to the city.

Mayor, I don't know if you have a few comments on that project. the uh... we uh... you can see the project total there we've got it funded with local dollars but just like our last biennial budget when we started it we had bay street and we had this federal award hanging out there for three and a half million that's what caused us to delay because then that award finally got funded we have a four million dollar award that's uh... we that's been granted to us from senator murray and believe it's murray it's camp that one's cantwell and uh so the once we get once that once those dollars become real that will help us fund some of those other construction projects because we'll be able to claw our local dollars back out of this but this it's very important that this project go to construction next year and we so we've we've prepared this budget with LOCAL DOLLARS TO MAKE IT WHOLE. ONCE WE ACTUALLY GET THE ACTUAL AWARD AND THE FEDERAL BUDGET GETS APPROVED, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT AND CLAW THOSE LOCAL DOLLARS BACK.

YES, SIR. I KNOW I PROBABLY MISSED IT WHEN YOU BRIEFED THIS. WE HAD THE ISSUE WITH THE WATER PRESSURE UP AT STETSON HEIGHTS. so that we have to take care of that. So is that just being funded out of general fund dollars? No, it's the contract. The developer's paying for it. Okay, that's right. That's what I wanted to make sure. I missed that point. Thanks.

Again, I just want to highlight, as the mayor said, we have a loan covering design here. We have a significant amount of REIT money committed to this project. We're anticipating, again, some congressional funding. Assuming the federal funding comes through, we will do a budget amendment to reappropriate those REIT funds to fund our other projects. So again, Bay Street shows up. It's gonna show up in each of our utilities, water, sewer, and storm. So roughly $650,000 planned for that. Annapolis Creek, this is a design project that we are still working on currently. So reappropriation from the current biennium to the next. Director Ryan, would you wanna talk a little bit about the Ruby Creek culvert replacement? Again, this is design and construction.

Yep, so these are funded through RCO grants, both the design for Annapolis and the design for the Ruby Creek Colbert replacement. So the Ruby Creek is also funded for construction. We're probably 60% for design, actually meeting Fish and Wildlife out there for a site tour this week. So we are targeting construction for this biennium.

And so we do have a $1.7 million grant for the Ruby Creek culvert, and we're using or planning to use roughly $2.5 million of storm CFC revenue. So I only mention that because storm CFC revenue is fairly new to the city. It's only been a few years since we've been collecting that, and we are putting it to use right away with this project. Did you want to talk a little bit about the plan for the South Sydney Regional Stormwater Facility?

So yes, this is just the design. This is contingency. We are also planning for a grant that's going to help fund the design portion of this. This is just the stormwater component of that future park. So this is no park design. It's just the storm which has to go first.

And then our last utility is the sewer capital construction fund. Marina, again, just a little leftover appropriation to make sure we're closing out that project. The sewer lift station controls, I understand we have six of the eight operational, and so we do anticipate that project will potentially close out again this fiscal year. So that $933,000 will be part of a budget amendment in the first amendment for 2027. Again, you have the sewer main replacement for the Bay Street project. Sydney Force Main is actually part of the Sydney Road project. So again, that project should be complete this year. I expect those expenses to go out the door this year. So again, another budget amendment cleanup. And last, the Bay Street Lift Station design, roughly a million dollars, and we have a loan to pay for that. Do you have any comments on the sewer projects?

Just to note the Bay Street lift design, that's one of our other big projects we've got Marina done. This is one of our environmental projects that's going to enhance our sewer system. The current Bay Street lift station still has the emergency seagate, which we no longer use, but it's just obsolete past its life. So our next phase will be right away after the design is complete because we'll have to buy some properties. Yeah, it's currently located right in front of the parking lot.

Yeah, and it'll likely get moved across the street where that little gray house is. We'll be buying that little gray house out and tucking it in there.

Any questions on the sewer capital plan? WITH THAT I JUST DID WANT TO MENTION AGAIN THE UPCOMING DATES SO OCTOBER 13TH WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT FEE FUNDS REIT AND DEBT SERVICE AND AS WELL AS OUR SPECIAL REVENUE BUT THERE'S ONLY A FEW SMALL ONES OF THOSE OCTOBER 20TH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ONE WILL BE FOR REVENUE AND PROPERTY TAX ANOTHER WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET WHICH BY THAT TIME WE HAVE COVERED EVERY FUND AND EVERY EXPENSE OF THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET October 27th, we'll have a public hearing on the final budget. We also plan on adopting the property tax levy as well as the final budget at the October 27th meeting. So those are the next three meetings coming up for the council.

I do have a question. So sorry to back up. So which project is it that has the federal money that we're waiting on under the fund 304? Which one was that?

It's the roundabout at Mitchell.

This one. Okay.

Yeah. And so it was a Supreme Court ruling that invalidated everybody's project and everybody had to redesign and come up with alternatives for the stormwater improvements we've got that redesign done and it hasn't been that long that the federal excuse me the federal agencies have had that redesigned so everything we did we couldn't We had to treat stormwater with tire compounds in it different on a federalized project. That's why we're like Bethel phase one. We don't have any federal dollars in that. And if we had federal dollars in it, we'd be looking at other methodologies that we'd have to do.

And that's not so much my question. My question was to Councillor Morrissey's point. It feels like it's I mean, you said that the feds haven't had those plans for a significant amount of time, but I just wondered, would like a letter from the council urging them to- I don't think so. No, I just wondered, because that might not be a bad idea. I'm with you. Yeah.

There'd be no harm in trying.

Yep. Just to say, hey- I'll defer to our city engineer what advocacy he needs. So Mr. Hammers, I know has been working diligently on this project.

can i can offer what we hear from uh like transportation improvement boards uh they and jess tell us they'll give us extra points if there's no federal dollars involved with their projects um because there was a time frame when we didn't nobody knew what was going to come down on the new budget

And also, there's been significant turnover in these departments that we're working with. It's not ideal at all. Council Member, go ahead.

I'll just piggyback. It's been my experience that the squeaky wheel gets the grease. So, as you know, I have no problem being the squeaky wheel.

Good to know. All right, questions about this capital budget and the timelines Noah's laid out for us? Okay, more presentations to come is what the moral of the story is, so. All right, we're gonna move on to our, we have a public hearing this evening and that is for the Sound Credit Union Development Agreement. Mr. Bond, this is you.

Sorry, I'm just toggling back to my staff report here. All right, before the city council is a proposed development agreement between the city of Port Orchard and Sound Credit Union to establish the terms under which the developer will construct and dedicate transportation improvements associated with TIP Project 1.7 and allow the city to issue transportation impact fee credits consistent with Port Orchard Municipal Code Section 20.182080. Under the section of code, the city may grant impact fee credits when an applicant constructs improvements or dedicates property necessary to implement projects identified in the city's transportation improvement program. These credits must be authorized through a development agreement. Sound Credit Union is developing property located at 1570 and 1600 Southeast Bel Air Court. with a new branch facility and associated site improvements. As part of their proposal, the developer will construct frontage improvements along Bethel Road and dedicate property along Bethel Road southeast and to the westerly portion of the site to support a future planned connection between Val Air Court and the signalized intersection at the northern Walmart driveway. These improvements implement the Bethel and Sedgwick corridor plan adopted by the City Council in 2018 and incorporated into the comprehensive plan. PROJECT TIF 1.7 IDENTIFIED IN THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM REFLECTS THIS PLAN CORRIDOR CONNECTIVITY. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IDENTIFIES THE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS AND ESTABLISHES HOW THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT VIEW CREDITS WILL BE CALCULATED ONCE THE DEVELOPER CONSTRUCTS THE IMPROVEMENTS AND DEDICATES THE PROPERTY. THE AGREEMENT OUTLINES THE PROCESS FOR CITY REVIEW, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A BILL OF SALE DETAILING CERTIFIED CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND SUBSEQUENT CREDIT DETERMINATION. TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES ARE COLLECTED AT BUILDING PERMIT ISSUANCE. HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WILL NOT PURSUE THE BUILDING PERMIT UNTIL THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS FINALIZED, ENSURING THAT THEY RECEIVE THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT CREDIT. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PROVIDES CLARITY FOR BOTH PARTIES IN A PREDICTABLE FRAMEWORK FOR CREDIT ALLOCATION. THE PROPOSAL SUPPORTS THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION OBJECTIVES THROUGH IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE FUNDED AND CONSTRUCTED BY THE CITY LATER. THE DEDICATION OF PROPERTY ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE FACILITIES THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE FACILITATES THE FUTURE BETHEL VAIL AIR CONNECTION PROVIDED IN THE BETHEL CEDRIC CORRIDOR PLAN IMPROVING CIRCULATION SAFETY AND MULTIMODAL ACCESS. IT ENSURES THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE COMPLETED TO CITY STANDARDS AND DEDICATED ACCORDINGLY ALLOWING THE CITY TO ASSUME OWNERSHIP AND INTEGRATE THEM INTO FUTURE PHASES OF CORRIDOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS BEEN REVIEWED UNDER SEPA AND NO APPEALS WERE FILED. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT AND IT'S BEEN PROPERLY NOTICED AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE SOUND CREDIT UNION.

THIS TIME I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SOUND CREDIT UNION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO TESTIFY ON THE MATTER OF THE SOUND CREDIT UNION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? IF YOU'RE ONLINE AND WISH TO TESTIFY, PLEASE USE THE RAISE YOUR HAND FEATURE AND THE CLERK WOULD BRING YOU IN. I SEE NO ONE RUSHING THE PODIUM. I SEE NO HANDS RAISED. SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THAT'S OUR FIRST BUSINESS ITEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAD INTO NEXT. You'd like a three minute break? All right. So council members asking for a quick break. We will adjourn our meeting until 8.25.

Am I weird or are you also on the school district board? Because I swear I see you and I'm like, I swear I see him. Or he has a doppelganger. I could not make it make sense. I don't know why, so cool. Cool, I think.

Brianna, I looked at you and I was like.

Thank you. That's fun.

we're back in session it's 8 25 we're to our uh two remaining business items the first of which is adoption of an ordinance

adopting the sound credit union development agreement mr bond this is you yes so i won't read the staff report into the record again i'll just state that the staff recommendation is that the city council approve a development agreement with sound credit union as presented motion councilman rosepepe mayor moved to approve the ordinance authorizing the mayor to execute the development

TIF, thank you, TAF 1.7. Second.

And by Councilmember Trenary, or not Trenary, Rosa Pepe, and a second by Councilmember Mitchell. Councilmember Rose Pepe.

I just wanted to let the council know that this was heard at land use committee. We support it, and also, uh... emphasize that if you read the fiscal impact this is definitely a win-win for both the city and the uh... credit union so those are my two cents comments councilmember

This would be giving them a credit for the transportation impact fees so I guess I'm I guess that's why I'm asking more about the transportation impact fees just to have a sense of of what projects would be eligible for these fees to be used now that we're then, I guess, we're putting it off in the sense of saying, okay, we are not gonna bring in this revenue from these transportation impact fees so that down the line we don't have to do these improvements

THAT WOULDN'T BE THE CASE AT ALL BECAUSE THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN OUR CAPITAL PLAN AND THEY'RE MAKING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS FOR US AND OUR CITIZENS WON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM.

I KNOW BECAUSE WE ARE GIVING THEM A TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE CREDIT, CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. THAT'S TAKING OUT OF THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE BECAUSE THEY NO LONGER HAVE TO PAY THAT.

Well, it's actually neutral because a project went away and they don't have to pay the fee. We didn't take any money out of the fund.

Right, okay. But that's something that we would have to do down the line or would we have to do that now?

Well, we weren't prepared to do the project right now. They're doing their improvements. And as a result, that project, their frontage improvements were in our plan. So they're eligible under the law to get a credit for that. And so they didn't pay it, but it took a project out of our bucket that we have to fund. So Council Member Morrissey.

Yeah, I think to help do that is we did some of that. What projects did we just do? We did one of them where we just, it was transportation, wasn't it? Where we just decided which projects we were gonna include in the plan or not. But essentially that's how we set our rates for transportation impact fees is based off the cost of the projects we have in the capital project plan. So if somebody does one for us, we don't need to collect those dollars to do that project. They're building it for us. we don't have to charge them the fee to build it on their behalf. And then it disappears from the list.

So Council Member Mitchell.

I was probably going to say something very similar to Council Member Morrissey, just in terms of like that using like very abstract numbers. So like, let's say the improvements that are going to be done there. I'm just going to throw out a number. I know it's incorrect, but like, let's say it was like $500,000 to do that. And that is what like the credits aren't equal to necessarily what the project would have cost. It may have actually cost us more if we had done the project ourselves. So instead of us spending six or $700,000 on the project, Of which $500,000 in impact fees would have only covered a portion and then we have to figure out where the other $200,000 comes from by having a development agreement like this it's essentially. CHEAPER FOR US BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO COME UP WITH THAT EXTRA $200,000 THROUGH TAXPAYERS AND ALL SORTS OF OTHER THINGS. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT ANYMORE. IT'S NOW BEING DONE BY A PRIVATE COMPANY BY SOUND CREDIT UNION IN THIS CASE. I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE.

OKAY. SO I CAN MENTION REAL NUMBERS IF YOU WANT TO.

Oh, it's okay. We don't need to mention real numbers. I was just using it for a point of demonstration to try to make that hopefully make sense.

Well, I'm not going to go more into it. Never mind. Okay. Never mind.

Okay. Council Member Warden, go ahead. I think Salmonberry is what we did when they were building those little apartments right there. We did the same thing with Salmonberry. This is very commonplace.

Blueberry. So any further questions?

Yeah, yeah, blueberry. All right.

You'll be voting on an ordinance adopting a sound credit union development agreement. All in favor, please say aye. Aye.

Aye.

Opposed? HEARING NONE THE ORDINANCE PASSES. ITEM B WAS PULLED WE'RE TO ITEM C WHICH IS APPROVAL OF CONTRACT AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 TO CONTRACT NUMBER 048-22 WITH MCCORMICK COMMUNITIES FOR WATER CFC CREDIT. MR. BOND THIS IS YOU.

YES. THE CITY HAS WORKED WITH MCCORMICK COMMUNITIES TO DRAFT AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 TO THE 2022 MCCORMICK WATER CFC AGREEMENT. THE DRAFT AMENDMENT RECOGNIZES THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE WATER SYSTEM IMPROVEMENT ENVISIONED IN THE 2020 WATER SYSTEM PLAN AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS BASED ON MORE RECENT ENGINEERING ANALYSIS. THESE DIFFERENCES ARE THE RESULT OF THE TIMING OF THE WATER SYSTEM PLAN'S PREPARATION BASED ON 2018 INFORMATION AND THE WATER SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION WHICH WAS RECORDED IN 2021. THE CITY'S CONSULTANTS HAVE DETERMINED THAT A SECOND WATER BOOSTER PUMP, AS CALLED FOR IN THE 2020 WATER SYSTEM PLAN AND THE 2022 MCCORMICK WATER AGREEMENT, MAY NOT BE REQUIRED IF OTHER LESS EXPENSIVE AND LOWER MAINTENANCE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE WATER SYSTEM ARE COMPLETED. THESE ALTERNATE IMPROVEMENTS ARE OUTLINED IN THE ATTACHED MEMORANDUM FROM CONSOR ENGINEERING. IN SUMMARY, THE NEW BOOSTER PUMP CAN BE ELIMINATED WITH MINOR ADJUSTMENTS TO THE STEADSON HEIGHTS BOOSTER PUMP AND WITH THE ADDITION OF PRESSURE REDUCING VALVES AT MOST LOTS IN STEADSON HEIGHTS. agreement has been written to offer the same credit terms but with different project descriptions that have been amended to reflect this new engineering analysis the agreement also allows the installation of prvs identified in the engineering analysis to be grouped together under a single permit for efficiency and provides extra time to complete the inner tie based on the changed design assumptions the agreement will allow the inner tie of the city's two water systems via stetson heights to be completed in 2027. the original agreement with amendment THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT AND AMENDMENT ONE WERE PREPARED IN ACCORDANCE WITH PORT AUTRY MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 13.04030. AND I'LL JUST POINT OUT THAT WE ARE WORKING ON A SUBSEQUENT AMENDMENT TO THIS WATER AGREEMENT AND WE'RE POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE ADDING SOME PROJECTS TO THE OVERALL FRAMEWORK BUT FOR NOW WE WANTED MCCORMICK TO BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS PIECE OF THE AGREEMENT AND YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE ANOTHER AGREEMENT WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. So the staff recommendation is to approve the contract amendment as proposed.

Council Mayor Morrisey. Yes, Mr. Mayor, I move to approve the first amendment to contract 048-22 between the City of Port Orchard and McCormick communities.

Second. Second by Council Mayor Morrisey, second by Council Member Diener. Any questions of Mr. Bond? I think we've covered this at length in a couple different committees, so. all right with no questions you'll be voting on proof of a contract number amendment number one to contract zero four eight dash two two with mccormick communities for water cfc credit all in favor please say aye aye one opposed hearing none the contract amendment has been approved All right, we're to committee reports. Economic tourism, I think you met last week.

We did. Pretty quick meeting actually. We had the QIDA quarterly report. QIDA gave us their updated activities, some of the projects they're working on. And then we saw the sound credit union development agreement come through us that we just took action on. And I believe that was about it.

A reminder that I've stepped down from the ADT committee, because I know I'm still listed here. So I'm just going to remind folks that for future agenda and whatnot, that should be taken out from underneath my name.

Moving on to utilities. Is the committee met? No, we did not meet. Finance did meet last week, but it's been everything you guys have been seeing here at the council meeting. Anything to your work there, John or Eric? I don't think there was anything beyond what we've been presenting here at these meetings. Transportation met this evening. Eric, do you have a report?

Yeah. A lot of things were already touched on tonight, so I won't go over the roundabouts and Ruby Creek and all that jazz. The Sydney work that's being currently redone right now is 30 per 30 percent complete and it should be done in roughly two weeks from now um the county paving uh within the city that we contracted out that was completed today okay um i'm sorry maybe tomorrow yeah so we're about we're about there um Yeah, the Anderson Hill roundabout, it's pretty cut and dry, basic roundabout that we discussed at length. We had a pretty cool presentation on it. There will be vegetation in the middle of it, will be irrigated until the native plants are fully grown, then it'll be shut off. It'll be flat surface, won't be raised. I'm not quite sure why. but um sewer manholes they had to do with sewer manholes there's two or sewer manholes in the middle of it yeah they have rings and they come up on cold cones but that's cool that's it yeah that's um denison are talking about rocks i'm like i mean there's elevations all over they raise them up all right cool anyhow point is uh they're gonna be planted and um my concern was How are we going to irrigate it? Are we going to irrigate it? And we're just going to tap into the water main right there. But everything else was already touched on with the Lincoln, Bethel phase one, Ruby Creek. So that's all we had. Great meeting and full of info. Okay, land use.

Can I have a follow-up question for that? Sydney's gonna be done in two weeks. Does that include a full overlay once they fix all that?

That's them being done and then we'll mobilize our contractor. This is the private developer.

And we're not going to run into too late in the issue where nobody's going to put something down. We don't believe so.

I was going to give an update at the end.

Okay.

Sorry to jump ahead. We'll come back to that. Land use? Yeah, land use met. We had an hour and a half meeting. I'll try to keep it down to about three minutes, summarize. We had a discussion about animal control that will continue into next month's meeting. Their chief enforcement control, animal control officer was not able to be present. There's some questions we had. The director was there and we chatted about services to Port Orchard and how we might be able to do things better and also talked about licensing. We had a healthy discussion and I will say up front, and I'm sorry this is coming a little bit later than we wanted to, council about adult oriented retail display. Basically we feel that it can be regulated through municipal code 920 that's already on our books. that trying to get into our zoning may require some secondary input. And I'd ask that to be explained a little bit more by Nick and Charlotte, but that would take a little bit more. But again, we're looking at regulating it and we feel that we have that in our code currently. uh... we had uh... discussion about drone to a drone delivery facility uh... we uh... agreed to move it to uh... planning commission for them to review and then bring that too uh... council probably november december uh... please a reminder that this is talking about the facility and not operation drones which is covered by f a and or already being used by a multitude of people in the city. We talked about Sound Credit Union already, and then we had a discussion about the our public yellow signage. There's a portal that's coming up pretty soon from DCD and people will be able to see whether those signs, they've already done the environmental study on that and we'll be able to get the signs removed because we'll know that after it's been approved, there's no reason for the signs to stay up. I think everybody can agree that they're an eyesore. That's my report, sticking to it.

All right, up to the mayor's report. To microphone feedback, when IT watched the video, the microphones, those portable microphones were strategically placed on the table. Somehow, it appears two, well, they did, two of them got moved right next to each other, and that was the likely cause. Our cell phones could be causing feedback. So just be conscious of laying your cell phone next to those portable mics. It caused problems with our audio when we lost our audio. THAT EVENING AND WE'RE AWARE OF THAT. LAST WEEK I MET WITH THE OTHER MAYORS AND COUNTY EXECUTIVES AND BUSINESS LEADERS FROM ACROSS THE PUGET SOUND FOR FORMER GOVERNOR GREGOIRE'S PARTNERSHIP FOR A COMPETITIVE PUGET SOUND TO DRAW ATTENTION TO OUR STATE'S DECLINING BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT AND I WON'T BELABOR THIS ISSUE BUT HOPEFULLY YOU READ MY MESSAGE LAST FRIDAY ON THIS IMPORTANT MEETING. I HAD A PRODUCTIVE MEETING LAST FRIDAY WITH THE GROUP FROM THE SENIOR CENTER, THE PRESIDENT FRAN AND THE VICE PRESIDENT NANCY AND COMMISSIONER ROOT. THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME COMMISSIONER ROOT HAD ACTUALLY MET WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS. Commissioner Root laid out the county's challenges and gave them some actual timelines that are longer than were laid out in the first letter because they've got county facilities in that building too. And as we heard, the county's looking holistically on where they have people and need to move them around. and he said it will likely take it'll be no sooner than the end of 2027 um before the county is ready to list that building for sale uh i in my conversations with uh with fran and nancy they have formed their own uh 501c3 so that was one big step I talked to them about determining what their space needs. That's the first step in, you know, what's your dream and what can you live with as we look for a space for them somewhere in the community. And those needs will determine a scope and a budget as they look for resources to fund it. They were also given a great opportunity contact the seniors in Central Kitsap went through a similar process about three years ago in a in a older county facility building that the county had to tear down and they're much farther along in this process and so some names and numbers were shared shared with that and talked about long-term plans short term plan long-term plans the need for them to be an advocate for themselves in our upcoming parks plan and then helping us as that process is completed advocate for themselves in a park in a parks and recs levy

Through all these conversations, what is their budget? Like if we could help them find a space.

I don't think they have any money right now. That's part of the problem. So yes.

I think I've learned a lot of most communities They operate their senior center out of a church, or it's privately owned. It's not a government building. Correct. So I was just curious, as I'm looking at some options, what's in their realm of possibility.

And they don't even know how much, at this point, what... Their total space needs? What their space needs are. So one, we determined... At least they're a legal entity. That was a big first step. Now, what are your space needs? And it's probably between 2,000 and 5,000. I'm guessing between 2,000 and 5,000 square feet, but they need to determine that. And so I've got another meeting scheduled with them in the first part of November after they gather as a group and figure out what their needs are. Yes, ma'am. We already have a concept for the rebuilding the and I shared it with them on the rebuilding the active club and it's got remember we have 200 people a week and AA members that are utilizing that space right now. And so I think it was $3 million to rehab the building, which we shouldn't do. And it's $5 million to rebuild that building. And then the concepts, it's got two 2000 square foot spaces and my computer's wanting to shut down. and 1,000 square feet. So I showed that to them, and I said, this could be the future, but is 2,000 square feet enough for you? And so we need to know that. And they don't know right now what their needs are. And so they went back, and we're going to have those conversations with their members. Yes, ma'am.

I just wanted to compliment you there on really having that conversation with them and like setting up you know follow-up meetings all of that giving them a punch list of things to do and saying like let's reconvene because I think that this was an issue I mean as as councillor Morrissey said usually this is not even like the government doesn't run the senior center the city does not take responsibility for that and i think that it says a lot about the leadership of saying like you have asked us we understand this is an important value i can't promise you the world but let's start and i just appreciate that so thank you and i i think we've hammered home that

We can't do this for them, but I think we can help them with this process and guide them. And that's where we're at right now. Yes.

Was there any discussion about seed money from the county once they sell the building or?

No, I don't know what the market for that building. MY LAST ITEM ON MY LIST IS TODAY I GAVE A DASHBOARD TOUR TO SENATOR MURRAY'S DISTRICT REP. AND SHE WAS SO APPRECIATIVE SHE'S BEEN ON THE JOB FOR SEVEN WEEKS AND CALLED ME A FEW WEEKS BACK AND GAVE HER A TOUR AROUND THE CITY AND SHE DIDN'T BRING HER CHECKBOOK BUT I TOLD HER NEXT TIME SHE SHOULD. So anyways, great meeting with her. And then I took her to a Rotary meeting.

All right, director's reports.

Mr. Ryan, what do you got to tell us about paving?

Yeah, I have lots to talk about, so I'll be quick. So if anybody hasn't had the opportunity, we just wrapped up a big project on the Bay Street corridor coming out of Gorst. All the vegetation's been cut back. The ditches are getting cleaned up. But that's been a few weeks, but it was a pretty big undertaking. So just wanted to compliment our crews. I also wanted to thank the council again for the investment with the Lumsden building. I don't know if you saw the article in the Kitsap Sun. Polsbo is going through the process of constructing a new operations center at $20 million. So we got a great deal. So thank you again. So Sydney, so the contractor, the developer contractor has mobilized three crews out there. We have a full-time inspector. They are doing, they have a geotech on site. They are doing nuclear gauge density testing. They're doing quality control. The developer is doing all this. They hit a three, they started Wednesday last week. They, as of today, they hit 30% of what they need to be done. So they are running into some troubles. It's not great conditions in the county portion. That's the worst part. So, it's moving along. If the weather changes, it could put a wrinkle in that. We do have our contractor, ACI, the city's contractor, to move in. We anticipate that that road will be fully paved before the end of October. So also I want to compliment the county paving. So the mayor talked about federal obligated funds and Bay Street. We received some federal funding. It opened up our preservation dollars, which is allocated in our budget for preservation. That's what freed up. And that was that's how we did this paving with the county. The counties were great partners, and I want to compliment them. They did great quality work. So that work, I thought it was going to be today, but it might be actually tomorrow that they're going to wrap up. But they did a quality job, and they were great to work with. So we appreciate it. And I also wanted to compliment our, we saw $75 million in capital projects today. We have a great engineering team. That's a lot to manage. Noah's got a great team, too, because they keep track of all the math for us. So compliments to his team. So that's it. Thanks.

Rocker. Mine's brief, I shared with the council an email from our utility department as kind of a brief report again a lot of these reports are anecdotal as we're monitoring continuous flow of our customers and having our utility clerks reach out we're identifying lots of leaks up front so it's not going to show up any data they can provide you because we're having the conversation they're identifying the problem and just thanking us that they found the leak and so this particular customer again is out in Europe taking a nice vacation we've noticed that there's been continuous flow we've left a message they actually reached back out to us concerned that they had Flooding in their basement and they had a neighbor go check and then sure enough the bathroom faucet was left on and running continuously So again, the customer is very thankful and we've have at least a dozen or so different stories I've heard from our utility clerks of similar situations. So I get the investment in the radio meters is really paying off for customers in the city Hearing that no, mr.

Bond YEAH, A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS. FIRST I WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL THAT MY DEPARTMENT IS FULLY STAFFED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN PROBABLY TWO YEARS. OUR BUILDING INSPECTOR ONE STARTED LAST WEEK AND SO HIS NAME IS DAVID ALEJO AND IF YOU SEE HIM BE SURE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF. I ALSO WANTED TO REPORT ON PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS IN SOFTWARE. LISA STONE, OUR PERMIT CENTER MANAGER, HAS BEEN WORKING WITH SMART GOV TO BUILD OUT OUR ONLINE PERMITTING PORTAL. WE HAD 172 DIFFERENT PERMITS THAT WE HAD TO BUILD OUT IN THE PERMITTING SYSTEM AND SO EACH ONE HAS A SERIES OF PROMPTS AND ALL OF THOSE HAVE TO BE CHECKED AND THEN REVIEWED BY STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE RIGHT INFORMATION. We have about 52 out of the original 172 left to program. We've finished all of the building permits and now we are on to public works and land use permits. And so we are, our planners and our city engineers have to review SOME CONTENT BEFORE WE CAN TURN THOSE PERMIT TYPES ON AND HAVE THEM AVAILABLE IN THE PORTAL. SO AT THIS POINT WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT MID-NOVEMBER TO LAUNCH AT THE EARLIEST AND SO WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO HIT THAT TARGET. WE ARE ALSO WORKING THROUGH SOME CREDIT CARD VENDOR ISSUES WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND IT TURNS OUT THE CREDIT CARD VENDOR WE THOUGHT WOULD WORK WITH THE SYSTEM IS NOT CURRENTLY APPROVED AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A WORK AROUND THERE. AND SO HOPEFULLY THE ONLINE PAYMENT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE WILL BE IN PLACE IN NOT TOO MUCH TIME. FINALLY, I WANTED TO SHARE YOU CAN EXPECT AN ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TOMORROW ABOUT HIS NOMINEES FOR OPPORTUNITY ZONES AND SO WE'RE VERY OPTIMISTIC AND YOU CAN LOOK FOR AN EMAIL FROM US TOMORROW INFORMING YOU OF THE RESULTS OF THAT AND IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL YOU'LL SEE A PRESS RELEASE.

Uh, Director? Sorry, Director Vaughn. Any feedback on the software that helps people provide a complete application?

Oh, yeah, sorry. I meant to also mention that. So, um, you know, we've, uh, looking at the permits that have come in since we launched that, we have not had any of our one-off builders come in. We've only had the big national builders. Several of the big builders did test the system before we had calibrated it. you know those builders are at this point in the code cycle have worked out most of their details so they're not getting hung up on a lot of things like they were earlier in the building code cycle today i was talking to the staff at permittable and we are working on we're going to do some outreach to the the nine larger builders that are active in the community and remind them that this is available to them. We're also going to work to more prominently put the information on the website in the hopes that we're driving traffic to try that out and use it. But really there hasn't been a whole lot of opportunity to use it because some of our builders are using basic plans where they're just permitting something that's already been reviewed and then a handful of other builders have not been using it. Until we have a one-off that uses one of our local architects to do a custom home, I don't know when we're going to see the benefit of that program. But it's available and it's up and running.

Thank you. Thanks for that update. Ms. Archer?

Nothing to report this evening. Thank you.

Deputy Chief Brannan? Keep it brief by the time you guys come back for the next meeting. We'll have two graduating the academy, so it'll be exciting. Wonderful. And the clerk's office.

Ms. Floyd? Nothing. RIGHT WE'RE TO OUR SECOND CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD ANYONE ONLINE WANT TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL USE THE RAISE YOUR HAND FEATURE AND WE HAVE ONE GENTLEMAN IN THE AUDIENCE AND HE'S NOT RUSHING THE PODIUM SO UH WE ARE GOING TO UH CLOSE THE SECOND CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD IS ANYTHING FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER COUNCILMER DEANER SO I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR A LITTLE WHILE UM

We all get lots of emails, but I'm not sure how we are tracking our responses to those emails. So at a work study, I'd like to talk about maybe these get assigned and then reported back to counselors on how they're addressed. Because I know that I may respond to an email, and somebody else might respond with something completely different. And quite often, it's a deferral to staff. So I'd like to talk more about that at a work study.

First off, yes, Scott, I think that's a fantastic idea. So I think we should talk about that. The only other thing I wanted to bring up in good of the order, just because it is coming up this Friday, is 925. And the Dolly Parton Imagination Library was kind enough to actually develop a flyer for us for that initiative that I brought up a couple weeks ago. The mayor is going to actually be signing up

READING A PROCLAMATION.

READING A PROCLAMATION, PARDON ME. SIGN IT, TOO. YES. AND DOWN AT SALMON BERRY BOOKS FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COME AT 1 O'CLOCK AND HOPEFULLY THROUGH THE INITIATIVE WE'RE HOPING THAT BUSINESS OWNERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY DECIDE TO OPT IN AND PARTICIPATE AND DONATE A PORTION OF THEIR PROCEEDS. made on September 25th to the imagination library. And there's a fun little QR code on there. It's been shared on Facebook. Hopefully people want to participate. So thank you so much for warning.

Yeah. Um, I kind of mentioned last week to clarify what, um, Matthew Schoenberg mentioned regarding the, uh, the veterans day event. So there was some expenses for some things that he was looking for. A couple of like two or three 25 foot flag poles plus installation of them. Each one is like $3,000 to $4,000. I said, eh, Lowe's is very generous. And so he wrote a very nice letter to the gentleman under Lowe's. And then she called him, and he went in there today and met with her, and they said, we will fund whatever you want, and we will install them for you. And our employees will attend the event as well in support. Well, they're going to encourage her. So they're going to call it like a, you know, a Lowe's, one of the local Lowe's projects that they do. So I just want to give a big shout out to Matthew for being... you know staying on it and all that good jazz and uh sticking with his purpose which we all know who he is we don't know that's what he does but also for Lowe's for continuing to to help out you know when needed so just wanted to give that up

All right. Council Member, go ahead. A couple things. First of all, I hope everybody, including people that are watching on YouTube, receive their Kitsap County official local voter pamphlet. The election's coming up. Please make sure you're registered to vote. uh... secondly for the council i would like some feedback uh... we've been unable to get the council procedures we're trying to get on so we can implement january first so i'm going to ask that we set aside come heck or high water at least an hour at the next work study so we can finish these off because then we have to get through the iteration send them back out so we can make sure that we've got everything done so we can vote on these uh either at the end of november or december so i'm asking your commitment uh if you need me to resend them to you please let me know through brandy or janine and i'll get it back to you we brought we're halfway done we just got to get that last push we you know so i'm just asking your uh uh assistance in carving out an hour in the next work study thank you

All right, meeting's adjourned.

Yay! Recording stopped.