Planning & Zoning Board - Regular Meeting

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[Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] ing one member. And both items on this agenda tonight require a super majority, which means all five votes. So, we'll wait and see. Meredith has gone upstairs to get a phone number to call this member to make sure. Maybe he's stuck in traffic. We don't know. But please bear with us and thank you. Hey. Hey. Hey. [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music]

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of the items that are on this agenda tonight must have all five votes. Now, both petitioners have a choice to go ahead with your item tonight and uh hopefully they'll you'll get all five yes votes or defer it to next month's meeting when we have six where if you get one no vote, you still you still win. And that's up to y'all. So would you let you want to talk it with your clients or or whatever on what you would like to do and then let me know. Just transition to resul. Sorry.

want to go. Okay, thank you. I'll wait for them to finish their this their item number one. Thank you. I haven't done They're still talking out there. So,

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Madam Chair, good evening. Uh Dwayne Dickerson. Uh for the record, on behalf of the applicant for item number one, we would like to proceed. You would like to proceed? Yes, ma'am. Okay. Okay, have a seat. Let me open the meeting. Thank you. Thank you. Now I get to hit the gavvel. Good evening and welcome to the zoning board of appeals. We're going to call this meeting to order at 63 p.m. Meredith, would you please call the role? Karen Ber here. Jack A. Hawkins here. Allison Morales here. Linda Thomas

here. Joe Sarusi. Charlotte Bur here. Okay. I need a motion to approve the minutes of the September 18th, 2025 meeting. I do I have a second. I make a motion that we approve the meeting. Motion second. All in favor signify by saying I. I. I.

Motion carries. Minutes are approved. Okay. It's time to explain the this board. This board is a quai judicial hearing. Everything that is said in this room is recorded and it's run just like a courtroom. And kind of look at all of us as five judges sitting up here and and you're in a courtroom. Anyone that wishes to speak in a few minutes, I'll have Meredith uh swear you in. You must be sworn in and all of your testimony is recorded. My request to all of you is please, please, if you come up to speak, talk into the microphone because the system won't pick it up and what you say will not be recorded and probably we won't hear it either. Okay, everybody understand? Meredith, would anyone in the audience that wishes to speak or thinks they're going to speak, would you please stand up and raise? Okay. Item number one, PNZ number 251700 10. It's a special exception. Will the petitioner please come up and I will explain something before the petitioner speaks. This particular item is an extension of last month's item and all that will be discussed at this meeting are the answers to the questions that this board requested of the applicant. There will be no public hearing. However, I'm going to ask the board. There is one gentleman in the audience that uh has the other car washed that would like to

what we had explained to the applicant and also to the individual who had expressed a desire was that um not knowing what those documents contain, I did not want the board to be confused um and that if those items are specifically addressing the responses or the answers that the applicant is bringing ing that it would be appropriate um should the board determine that they want to hear public comment for those items to come forward. But I didn't want to confuse the board if the individual or the entity decided to bring up other items that were not brought up by the applicant in response to your questions.

Well, Mr. Attorney, if there is documents that he wants to present to this board and we have to read them, we don't know what's in those documents. Correct. I I I I agree. But again, as you as you stated, the single purpose for tonight's continuence was for the applicant to address this board's questions. And so again, I I think whatever documentation the applicant had, I'm sorry, that the individual has has to be something that addresses those responses those responses

at that time. And if he ch if he if it does not then that would be something that you could um decide not to accept should you even open it up. Right. Well, I I would need the board's approval to allow this to happen. I can't do this on my own. So, uh Meredith, would you call the role? And the answer yes would mean yes, he can speak. No, would be no, he can't speak. Right. Right. What? I don't know. I was looking to make sure the board members didn't have any questions. What? Do you have a question? No, I wanted to make sure that they didn't have questions.

I have a question. Who has a question? Yes, me. Okay. My to answer yes, you want to see the documents. No, you don't. But my question is, we don't know what the documents, right? No. Well, actually the yes would mean you would allow him to speak and give us the documents and no would mean no. Okay. I mean it's kind of a odd thing that's happening here tonight. That isn't usual and that's why I need a full board to vote on whether you want to do this or not. It's not up to me to make that decision.

If I may, Madam Chair. Yes. I think if if I can offer a suggestion, maybe the question is more about whether or not you want to have public comment, not just single to this individual, but whether or not you want to have public comment following the applicant's presentation. You may want to wait until after after the applicant answers your questions to determine if you want to open it up.

That's a very good idea, James. Thank you. I agree. Okay, that's what we'll do. We'll wait for the applicant to answer the questions and then we'll have a vote of the board and it's all you state your name and good evening. Uh Dwayne Dickerson on behalf of the applicant attorney with the law firm Miss Bachmann offices at 14 Southeast 4th Street in Boca Raton. Um Madame Chair is staff going to give a presentation first or would you like? Yes, staff will go first.

Yes, ma'am. Um actually I don't have much of a presentation. I just wanted to say that the you know the questions were the board wanted to know about okay car washes within three miles of the subject property uh what types of car washes and uh Dwayne can take it from there. Yeah, you go ahead and take it uh from there. Sure. And I and I do want to add also that all of us here except for the empty chair, we were here for the full presentation last month. So you don't have to do any presentation other than to answer the questions of the board. Thank you.

Thank you. So So Madam Chair, you are correct. I believe that this board gave really clear direction on this continuence and the additional information that you wanted. So, we're going to be very respectful of that direction as we move forward. I just wanted to very briefly set the stage. We are requesting a special exception approval for a car wash um in the B3 zoning district. Car washes are permitted subject to special exception approval. So, this is an aerial refreshing your memory of the location. We are on the southwest corner of Powerline Road and Gateway Drive. We're just north of McNab Road. The parcel is just about 41,000 square feet in size, which is about 94 acres. Um, it is essentially an out parcel with an within an existing shopping center. And as you may recall, it used to be a checkers uh fast food restaurant that is no longer in service. And the zoning of the property is B3, general business, and the land used is industrial. So once again, we believe uh the request is compatible with the zoning and the land use and permitted subject to of course special exception approval. Next slide, please. Thank you. So my record show that there were five questions that you asked, right? Question one, what are the types of car washes? Well, how do we distinguish the different types of car washes? Question two, how many car washes are in the city of PMPO Beach? And that was two parts. one within the entire city and two within three miles of the property and also within the city because the the property um is located in the area of the city that's directly adjacent to another city to the south. So that's why I say within a three-mile radius some of that is within the city of PMPO Beach and some of it is not. So that's why I think that question was

two-part. How many car washes in the entire city? How many car washes within that three- mile radius that are also in the city? Question number three, is there a demand for the proposed car wash? Question number four, what are the sound impacts of the proposed car wash? And question number five, what impact will this car wash approval have on mom and pop car wash businesses? So, I believe those were the five questions that were asked that we're going to address very quickly. Yes.

So, this shows you the types of car washes. Question one. Now you know we can get in the weeds and some of them have multiple types but these are the main categories that I think you see and you would understand. The first one is a gas station wash. Right? So this is the vehicle is stationary in the equipment and the equipment washes the vehicle around the vehicle being stationary. And and as you see, when some of these tunnels uh malfunction, then they'll turn into a hand wash, and you'll see the the people in there washing the cars by hand in tunnel. But that's a gas station wash, accessory to a gas station. Another type of wash is a conveyor wash, which is what we're proposing, where the vehicle travels on some sort of conveyor system through a washing system, the vehicle on the way out. Um then the vehicle on the way out. Um, then there's a self-service bay. You remember the old school where you would pull up, you put your money in, and you'd wash it yourself. And I guess uh with today's day and age and convenience, you don't see a whole lot of that anymore, but there's still out there a few of them. And then the hand wash, which we also uh call the bucket wash, right? The gentleman's there with a bucket. He's handwashing it and um you know, maybe he sets up a tent, but those are the main categories. So, I think that answers question one. What are the different types of washes? Next slide please. So the second question was how many car washes in the entire city? That answer is there are 14 total car washes in the city of Pmpo Beach. Now, the way that breaks down is nine of them are car washes, which are the selfservice bays, the gas station uh wash, and the conveyor, right? And then you have five that are more of the auto detailing type

of wash where they do the inside, they'll do the outside, they'll do the buffing, the waxing, all those other more detailed service than than just an express convenient wash. So that's 14 total, right? And then there's two pending that have received uh BTRs. So we got this information from the city, right? This was not us saying what the numbers are. As you may recall, you heard last time from um one of the speakers that there were 26 car washes in the city. Based on the research that we've done, which was independently done and confirmed by the city, the 26 is just not correct. There's 14 current car washes which include the detail and then there's two that are that are pending that approve that were approved with the special exception approval. So, I think that answers and and one other thing I I want to note. Um, and we'll talk a teeny bit about this later. What Griggs provides, which is the car wash that we're proposing this evening, provides totally different services than some of the other car washes, five of them are listed as detail auto detailing, which is a total separate BTR category because they provide different services. So, while I added them in there because I think you said, Dwayne, a car wash is a car wash, give us a total number. But I do think it's important to note that five of the 14 do something totally different than what we do and and and I think that's when you're looking at compatibility and total number. I think that's very important. Next slide, please. So this is a map. The blue is the three mile radius and we're dead in the middle right now. If you can kind of see on the left side, there's a yellow line that

runs on the left side of this pro property or on this map and then there's another yellow line at the bottom. Inside of both of those yellow lines is the city of Pompo Beach. Outside other cities. So within the city of Pmpo Beach and within the three mile radius, there are seven car washes. They're all listed there and you can see where they're located in proximity to where we are dead in the middle of the blue circle. In addition to that, the other seven, remember we said there's total 14 are outside that blue circle, meaning they are outside of the three mile radius from us. So those those those are the facts. Those are the numbers. Uh next slide, please. Still with question two. This slide shows you exactly the seven car washes that are in the city of Pmpo Beach and within a three-mile radius of the proposed car wash tonight. So, you can see them all there. You see exactly what they do. We even included Rising Tides, which is not built yet, as you know. But to be fully transparent, we thought it was appropriate and important to show you that one. Um, that's vacant now, but but it will be coming online if they move forward with their with their approvals. So, these are the seven. You can see where they are. I think they're well spaced. I don't think there's a proliferation. I think this map very clearly shows you um that where we're proposing there's a direct need within the three mile radius and within the city of PMPO Beach. Next slide, please. Third question about is there a demand? As you recall, we had our expert testify who was qualified as an expert without objection with BBG Real Estate Services and he did a feasibility study to determine whether or not there was a

demand. In short, his conclusions were that that there is a significant demand for additional car wash services within the local market and that our proposed development is considered justified. Now, in terms of his qualifications, you remember he has done over 350 car wash evaluations uh within the last 12 months. And his job is not to say, "Hey, the car wash should go there." His job is to tell us the facts and the truth because if it would not work or not be a good business plan or not be successful, of course, you know, we'd want to know that now and decide to pick another location as opposed to just saying we're going to go here no matter what. So, he's not his job is not to tell us what we want to hear. It's his job is to give us factual information to confirm that this is the right location. It makes sense. There is a demand and this uh new facility will be successful. Uh, our expert is here. If you would like for him to testify, it was my understanding that we would answer the questions and you would deliberate. So, I want to be very respectful and not open up that can of worms if you're not going to let others from the public speak. But if you decide to do that, then I absolutely would like to have my experts testify and we have others that would like to speak as well. So, um, but for now, I will forego that because I didn't think that was the scope of what you asked me to do. Uh, next slide, please.

Uh, fourth question, sound. How does this impact the sound, uh, and impact adjacent properties with sound? We performed a sound study. All right. And we looked at two major components of a car wash. One, blower system. when the vehicle's leaving the tunnel and the blowers blow to dry the vehicle into the vacuum system. So, you know, our system is called the ultra quiet blower drying system for the blowers and then the vacuum producers, which is essentially the engine that drives the the vacuum system. So, you'll have the vacuum producers and then you'll have the individual vacuum stations where you you vacuum the the vehicles. Um, next slide, please. This I told you guys I have a two-year-old son, so I everything colors, you know, makes it very easy. So, this is a map that shows you decibb all of the equipment and how it works on our property. Your city has a requirement in the code that says between the daytime hours of 7:00 a.m. and 1000 p.m. the exterior noise standard has to be at 65 dB or below at adjacent commercial properties surrounding the project. So the red color is the higher dB. The blue is 65 dB or less as you can see. So, if you see the white, that's the building and you see both sides of the building, you see more sound because that's when you enter the tunnel and you exit the tunnel, right? And then on the bottom of that, you see the little dots. Those are the vacuum stations. The red dots are the vacuum stations. And then there's turquoise dots where are the vacuum producers or essentially the engine for the vacuum system.

At everywhere on this site, it steps down to the blue, which is 65 dB or less at any portion of our property. So, we meet or exceed all of your noise requirements for the city of Pompo Beach. And it's clear there and you can see it and and and those are facts. Next slide, please. Fifth question was what are the impacts on mom and pop car washes? So, Griggs has established a P3 program which stands for pipeline partnership program and that's a created relationship with local car wash facilities and mobile car washes to provide our customers with all necessary car care services. As we stated, we don't touch the vehicles. We don't touch the outside of the vehicles, nor do we touch the inside of the vehicles. So, we have a limited scope of service. And plenty of our clients want additional services. So, we've created this pipeline program to refer our clients to our partners to get the additional services that they may want, including the full hand washes, exterior, interior detailing, minor dent repair, scratch repair, and any other services, windshield repair, you name it. We're partnering with uh local independent businesses and and car wash owners to provide these additional services. Additionally, to give you a real world example, we encounter several vehicles that for one reason or another don't fit into our tunnel. Sometimes it's the size of the vehicle. Sometimes it's some condition with the vehicle or maybe it's an older classic vehicle and it just is not appropriate to go through our tunnel. And that happens

approximately three to seven percent. And so those vehicles are obviously referred to one of our pipeline partners so they can get the services that they need if we can accommodate them. Um, so how we do that, how we've done it in other places and how we would envision doing it in PMPO Beach is getting a list of the business tax receipts of all of the car washes in the city and then inviting those local car washes, mom and pops to participate in our partnership program and have a direct referral pipeline of referring business to them. And um and I think going through the city's business tax receipt means that we we know that these are businesses that the city has acknowledged and that we can we can partner with. Um as you can imagine, we would go through a vetting process to make sure that everything anybody that we partner with is safe and that they're providing the quality of service that we demand of of our services that we're providing to our customers. Um there's no charge. So we don't charge our our private partners. we don't take a cut of their profits. This is a mentoring, tutoring, and an opportunity to provide revenue sources to these mom and pop businesses. Um, and it's been very successful. I actually have a gentleman here who is one of our partners who's an independent mom and pop car wash facility. if you open up to the public, I'm want him to say something. But I I'll try to I but he just wanted to wave and say, you know, he strongly believes in the benefits that our that our uh uh P3 program have provided to him. Um and then, oh, we we also allow, I know, as a mom and pop, some of the biggest issues are getting your name out. So as part of our program, we allow our partners to share in our advertising and we sponsor our

pipeline uh partners in our advertising materials. So we say, "Hey, you know, if you want a full detail service, go see so and so." Um so that is also a way to get their name out and help them be successful with part of our marketing program. And and lastly, we proudly support all car washes. uh where we're perfectly okay with healthy competition. We think that washing your car in a quality facility is light years ahead of washing your car at home in terms of the environmental impacts. And so we're not going to ever say don't support another car wash. If they're doing it right and they meet the criteria, we will fully support them. Next slide, please. So just wanted to show you the renderings again so you can see obviously we go through a DRC process if we are fortunate enough to get this special exception. So all the architectural components the site planning components will be thoroughly reviewed but uh we are very proud of this design and I know your board likes to see the design as part of your decision-making process. I hope you would agree that um this is the best of the best and we're going to make sure that this is a facility that the city's proud of. Next slide, please. These are other renderings that we showed last time so you can just see the quality of the facility. Next slide, please. We've had um significant community outreach in support. Uh we've got letters of support from our some of our adjacent property owners, some of the tenants in the shopping center that are really looking for an opportunity to transition this dark um underutilized, you know, checkers into a high quality development in the city that looks nice and that can help bring customers and

life back into the shopping center and the tenants that are there. So, just wanted you to know we've we've we've gotten significant outreach. We have folks that are here as well if if it is open to the public to speak to that. And lastly, uh the code, the rules, the the the law. You have 13 criteria. You see them every month. So, I'm not going to go through them in the essence of time, but I will point you to the highlighted section here. And this is a direct quote from the staff report. It says the applicant has addressed all 13 special exception review standards in detail providing thorough wellsupported and fact-based responses for each criterion including addressing the use specific standards for a car wash. to your staff report and your staff have clearly stated for the record that we have satisfied your code and that therefore I believe that this application should be approved by the board and um and and we've provided the competent and substantial evidence to support this which is also the legal standard. We provided the experts as you remember at Nauseium we went through all 13 criteria. I'm not going to do that to you tonight. Um, and this application I think makes sense. I understand competition and we welcome competition. We think it's healthy for your city. We think it's healthy for the customers and uh and we think we've shown that this application satisfies all the requirements. So with that, I would like to pause and reserve time to address any additional questions or comments that you may have. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Yes, sir. Well, at this time, I'm going to ask the board if they want to open this up for public hearing. This would mean that the petitioner would present more of his case and then open it up for other people to speak. And I need a vote of the board, either yes or no. And I'm going to ask Meredith to call the role. Karen Burgerer. Yes. Jack A. Hawkins. No. Allison Morales.

No. Linda Thomas. Yes. Joe Suzie. Charlotte Bur. No. This means no public hearing. Correct. Now, does this board have any questions of the petitioner on the items that they asked and that were presented tonight? Nothing more and nothing less. Just what they were asked to present this evening from our last board meeting. Okay. Then may I have a motion, please?

Our motion in PNZ case number 251700 010. I move we find there is competent and substantial evidence in the record that all the requirements for granting the special exception have been met and that we grant the special exception subject to the four conditions requested by staff. Do I have a second? Second. Okay, it's been moved and seconded. There being no further discussion on this matter, Meredith, please call the role. Jack A. Hawkins. Yes. Allison Morales, yes. Karen Burgerer,

yes. Joe Suzie, Charlotte Bur, yes. Did you didn't call on Thomas? Miss Thomas, I'm so sorry. I apolog. Yes. You got your specialist. Thank you. Have a good evening. You're very welcome. I know he wanted to talk, okay, but it was it's too late. These guys all the requirements that that was really good clarification. I needed that. Exactly what I needed.

Item number two, DNZ number 251 1 0 018. It's the Arch Dascese of Miami, St. Gabriel's Church. Would you please state your name, spell your last name, and your address? Yes. Good evening to the board. Eric Slays, architect for Ark Works. Slazic S L A Z like Zebra YK. That is 2113 Johnson Street Pines, Florida. Thank you. It's Mr. Reali.

Thank you, Madam Chair. For the record, Scott Reali with development services. The applicant land owner requests a variance from the PMPO Beach zoning code to allow for the construction of a detached church tower on the property located within the RM20 zoning district. The request includes relief from the following code sections. There are three of them. First is from section 155 3210C which are the dimensional standards for the RM20 district specific to height. The proposed tower will have a height of 53 feet which exceeds the maximum permitted height of 35 ft resulting in a requested variance of 18 ft. The second request section 1553210C also the dimensional standards for the RM20 zoning district but this is regarding the front yard setback. The proposed structure uh is proposed to be set back 14 feet 11 12 in from the front property line where a minimum front yard setback of 25 ft is required. And the third recommended deviation section 1554302B2G which are the standards for accessory uses and structures. This section prohibits accessory structures from being located in front of a principal structure. The proposed tower is situated in front of the existing church building which is considered the principal structure on the site. This property is located on the barrier island along the west side of North Ocean Boulevard which of course is A1A between Northeast 7th Court and Northeast 8th Court. The applicant proposes to construct a detached architectural tower on a developed site currently occupied by St. Gabriel Catholic Church established in Pompo Beach in 1967. The property has no open code violations and no active building

permits. The church is oriented toward North Orion Boulevard with the proposed tower located between the church building and A1A. The remainder and majority of the site extending west to North Riverside Drive consists primarily of surface parking. The proposed tower is intended to function as a symbolic and architectural element of the church campus. To accommodate this structure, the applicant is requesting variances from three provisions of the zoning code, which I just went over. Maximum building height, minimum front yard setback, and placement of an accessory structure in front of a principal building. Regarding the height, the proposed tower reach would reach 53 feet, extending uh the RM20 zoning district's maximum height of 35 ft. The structure will include a crucifix on the at the top. The requested additional height is intended to enhance the church's visibility, which the applicant contends is currently diminished by surrounding high-rise residential buildings, trees, and utility infrastructure. Staff notes that the proposed tower will not contain usable floor area or conditioned space which helps to mitigate potential impacts on surrounding properties. The reduced front yard setback 14T 11 12 in in lie of a required 25 ft is driven by the site constraints including the location of the existing church building internal circulation patterns such as the existing drive aisle and visibility limitations from the street. The applicant seeks to locate the tower closer to the sidewalk to improve the visual prominence and pedestrian access to a proposed landscape reflection area. And the third variance pertains to the placement of the tower in front of the church. While this is typically prohibited for accessory structures, religious architecture is commonly um

features steeples or towers uh prominently at the front of worship facilities. Unlike other accessory structures such as garages or storage sheds, the proposed tower serves as an aesthetic and symbolic role consistent with the ecclesiastical design traditions. The proposed structure is non-commercial, non-residential, and intended solely for architectural and symbolic purposes. There's no indication that the tower will be illuminated or used to project sound which reduces potential compatibility concerns with adjacent residential properties. In summary, the requested variances are driven by a combination of sight specific physical constraints, traditional architectural intent and religious symbolism. non-habitable nature of the tower, its placement within a developed religious institution, and the context of adjacent high-rise buildings suggest that the request meets the spirit and intent of the zoning code. Based on these factors, staff finds that the request may satisfy the criteria for a hardship as outlined in the city's variance standards. And of course, there are eight variance review standards. the applicant has addressed each of these in their narrative uh which is included in your application, the backup of the application. And should the board determine that the applicant has provided competent and substantial evidence demonstrating compliance with those aid variance review criteria, staff recommends the following conditions be incorporated into the board's order of approval. One, the applicant shall obtain all required permits and approvals from the city, including but not limited to building and zoning compliance permits prior to the commencement of construction. Two, the tower structure shall be constructed in substantial conformance with the plans and elevations submitted as part of this application. Any increase in

height, footprint, or additional dimensional encroachments beyond those specifically approved shall require further review and approval. Three, the tower shall remain non-habitable and shall be used exclusively for architectural and aesthetic purposes. No conditioned space or occupiable space shall be permitted. And the fourth recommended staff condition, no exterior lighting or sound projection equipment shall be installed or on or within the tower unless such features are approved through a separate review and permitting process. And that concludes staff's report and I'm available for questions. Thank you, Scott. Thank you, sir. Go ahead.

Very good. So, an important issue uh for any religious structure is its presence, the ability to be recognized and its sense of unwavering support for its parishioners and the local community as a whole. The asks we are making here this evening are necessary to achieve these goals. Currently, the existing church suffers from canyon effect caused by the high density and multi-story residential projects to the east and north of the church property. Additionally, utility lines and power and light poles contribute to obstructing the identity of the church. By providing a tower closer to the street as an extension of the church's facade, visibility of the church would now be improved. As this is a nonhabitable decorative structure, there is no impact to traffic or parking as well as any financial gain by the tower's addition. To help the I'm sorry, to help overcome the height disparity with the adjacent structures, an 18 foot increase in building height is requested. This increase is minimal in comparison to the surrounding buildings. a ninestory residential building to the north and a 19th a 19 and 17s story res residential building to the east. In summary, the addition of the tower and its height and placement is consistent with the height and placement of the surrounding highdensity multi-story residential buildings. The tower will serve to improve the church's visibility and identity within the neighborhood as well as to the north and southbound uh traffic. Its placement closer to the public sidewalk will extend an inviting reflection area for pedestrians. Thank the board for your time.

Very pretty.

That it does does the board have any questions of the petitioner? Oh, this is also a public hearing. Oh, you do have a Yeah. So, I I noticed that there's um side street between the building and there. Do you see any site obstruction problems with traffic coming out? Uh looking at is that the one that's to the north of the church? Is that the one correct? Yeah, I believe that is just an access uh lane for the church for drop off church and handicap parking is along that side as well.

Okay. thought no I I do it exists now we're not changing any of that that's the way it exists okay so it wouldn't be problem for anybody to see around it I so okay we're without we're out of the sight triangle the visibil the visibility triangle so it should be okay yeah if if I may we did receive uh two letters one one uh indicating no objection one did have concerns about the site visibility triangle We looked at it. We confirmed that it is not within the site visibility triangle.

Uh does any other board member have any questions? I I'd kind of like to make a statement myself. St. Gabriel's what I believe they say was built in the 1950s and it's a one-story building that's been there all these years and the highrises have been built around St. Gabriel's. I mean, and and if you were an out oftowner, correct, you would not find the church. I've been here 63 years. I know where it's at, but not everybody does. And uh I have a question of Scott. They want this to be 53 feet. How high is the condo that's next door?

I should have. What? It's higher. It's higher. Okay. Okay. Well, you don't have to give me the exact exact footage, but okay. If there's no further questions from the board, this is a public hearing. Have one. Oh, you have one? Yeah, just one. Um, what is the anticipation as to the time of how long the construction will take? Well, that is a good question, but I would expect it would be maybe 3 to four months. I would guess it would depend on the contract.

It would not require a site plan review because it's it's a non-habitable structure. Um, so it can go right to building permit and then hopefully get approved and constructed.

Okay. Any further questions from the board? Okay. This is a public hearing. If anyone in the audience wishes to speak on this matter, please come to this microphone. Speak into the microphone. State your name, spell your last name, and your address for the record. Hello, my name is Lisa Cass. Hello, my name is Lisa Cassain. K I S S A N E. I live at 812 North Ocean Boulevard, Pompo Beach, Florida 33062, almost directly across the street from the church. I was listening clearly and I want to ask, I understand now they're not saying there will be a bell in the tower, but could there be a bell added later for sound or how would that work? No,

no, there cannot be one. No bell, right? There is no bell. But that's one of the conditions conditions of the this uh variance is no. Yes. They said they could apply for it though thereafter and that would be yet another uh if they tried to put a bail in after they'd still have to go through the whole city process which the city already said no bail. Okay. Thank you very much.

You're very welcome. Is there anyone else in the audience that wish to speak for this petition? Okay. No. For anyone against this petition? My name is Bruce Pner. Posser. I live at 7:30 North Ocean Boulevard, Pompo Beach. I live diagonal to the um to the church. Um I I don't want to necessarily say I'm I'm objecting, but given that this was notice was not published in the Suns Sentinel till 10:10, which was last Friday, given holidays and mailing delays, I don't feel people have had a fair opportunity to assess uh the the U variance. That's step one. That aside, um we appreciate that the church wants to recognize and honor St. Gabriel. However, we feel that the structure is intended and very prominent placement on A1A that that there's no reason it shouldn't be done within the constraints of the current variances. It's a a residentially zoned property uh exclusively and putting a 53tory tower in an area that's zoned for 35 ft uh we feel may be excessive.

Thank you. As far as the notice goes, I mean, do we still notice in the Suns Sentinel or we just send out notices? Both. We do. We do both. We do both. Anyone within 500 ft received a notice in the mail plus the Suns Sentinel. Yeah. should have arrived Saturday if Saturday works. Um and the notice um I believe was within the within the required Okay. Frame. Yeah.

I'm sorry. I I I just want to say I I understand it was you're assuming it was received on Saturday. If it was mailed on Friday, uh don't forget there was a holiday in between. It was Columbus Day, so there was certainly no mail on that day. Plus, most of the people who live in the buildings along that strip, I would say if it if it's characteristic to the condo that I live in, 75% of the people are not living there full-time, especially at this time of year. So, they would be their mail would be forwarded to wherever they spend the rest of their time and and it wouldn't be there in sufficient time for them for this hearing for them to either object or or uh accept what's being said. I understand.

Is there anyone else in the audience that wishes to speak for this? Okay, that part closed. Anyone else? Again, Madam Chair? Yes. For the record, it was postmark Tuesday from our office on Tuesday. It was mailed out. Um, that's where I got from the mailing office. Okay. It wasn't Friday. It was No, we weren't here Friday. Um, we postmarked it on Tuesday.

Okay. Thank you. Anyone else to speak? Okay, public hearing closed. Any questions from the board? If there are no questions, I would appreciate a motion. A motion in PNZ case number 25- 11 000018. [Music] Thank you. I move we find there is competent and substantial evidence in the record that all the requirements for granting the variance have been met. Oh, should I do three separate ones? I apologize. Granting the first variance have been met and that we grant the first variance subject to all four conditions requested by staff.

Do I have a second? Okay, moved and seconded. Now, we're just voting on the first part of the variance. Okay, this is correct. There's three. You have to vote three different times. We will be doing this three times. Okay. Meredith, will you call the role, please? Karen Burgerer, yes. Linda Thomas, yes. Jack A. Hawkins, yes. Allison Morales, yes. Joe Suzie, Charlotte Bur, yes. That variance has passed. Okay. Do I have a motion? Second one is about front yard setback. The front yard set back. I need a motion.

I'll do it again. In PNC case 25-11 00000018, I move we find there is competent and substantial evidence in the record that all the requirements for granting the second variance have been met and that we grant the second variance subject to the four conditions requested by staff. Second. Second. It's been moved and second. Any discussion from the board? Meredith, please call the role. Karen Burgerer, yes. Allison Morales, yes. Jack A. Hawkins, yes. Linda Thomas, yes. Joe Suzie. Charlotte Bur?

Yes. Second variance pass. Now I need a motion for the third and final one. Uh this is about the standards accessory use in fixory structure in front of a principal structure. In P and Z case number 2511 00000018. I move we find there is competent and substantial evidence in the record that all the requirements for the granting the third variance have been met and that we grant the variant subject to the four conditions requested by staff. Second. Thank you. It's been moved and second. Any discussion? Meredith, please call the role. Jack A. Hawkins. Yes.

Karen Burgerer, yes. Allison Morales, yes. Linda Thomas, yes. Joe Sarusi. Charlotte Bur. Yes. Your has been granted. Thank you. Thank you. Is there any other business before this meeting before I adjourn it? U Madam Chair, I just wanted to thank um the two alternates who are here with us tonight um because you helped us facilitate um Oh, yes. Thank you very much. Yeah. By showing up and and things kind of aligned that allowed us to do that. Thank you.

You're welcome. Hearing nothing else. Motion to adjurnn. So moved. I'll make it myself. Meeting adjourn.