City Commission - Regular Meeting

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Hey, hey, hey. Right, let's go ahead and call this Papa Beach City Commission meeting to order.

January 13, 2026, 100 p.m. We're pretty close there, too. If I could ask everyone to please silence their cell phone or put them on vibrate during the meeting, that would be ideal so we don't get disrupted during our meeting with a somebody's telephone call. So, please silence your cell phones or put them on vibrate. I'd appreciate it. All right, let's go ahead and call the role. Commissioner Fezic here. Commissioner Perkins here. Commissioner Sigerson Eaton here. Commissioner Smith here. Vice Mayor Fornier here. Harton

here. Thank you. Our invocation this afternoon will be given by Bishop Lewis Sanders of DRDR Ministries. If we could please stand for the invocation followed by the pledge of allegiance. Bishop. Here we go. Let us pray. Father, we thank thank you for this opportunity to stand before your presence. We pray now that you will have control. Cover these leaders, cover the citizens of this community. I pray that everything that's said and done will be decent and in order. and when it's all said and done that you will be pleased with every effort and the people of this community will continue to be blessed. Amen.

Amen. To the flag of the United States of America and to the stands one nation.

Thank you. Can I get a motion approving the regular city commission meeting minutes of December 9th, 2025? So moved. Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor say I. I. I. Opposed. Motion carries unanimous. Thank you. On our agenda this afternoon, Mr. Harrison, any changes from your end? No, sir. Very good. Well, I've gotten a request to move item number 15 up to the first item after the consent. So, item 15 will be taken first after the consent. Um, can I get a motion approving the agenda as amended? So moved. Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor say I. I. I.

Opposed. Motion carries unanimous. Thank you. On our consent agenda this afternoon, we'll be dealing with items number one and two will be pulled from consent. They'll be dealt with individually. So one and two will be dealt with individually. Items three, four, and five can be uh can be discussed during audience to be heard. Very good. All right. That takes us up to we got a couple of special presentations here. The first is the Florida section of American Waterworks Association awards. Amelia's to Torres FSA WWA region 4 chair to present PMPO Beach utilities department with the following awards. Region 4 best tasting water landmark award pump house number one distribution award division number four and water conservation award. I will turn it over.

Good afternoon everyone. Um, my name is Emily Stores. I serve as a chair of region 6 of the Florida section of American Waterworks Association, also known as AWWA. This covers Brower and Palm Beach counties. For those of you that don't know what is AWA, is a professional organization dedicated to the safe and sustainable water for the communities. I'm glad to be here to present these awards recognizing the city of Pompano Beach for these outstanding achievements. First, the best tasting drinking water award for region six. Over 30 utilities in Brower and Palm Beach County competed for the honorary title of the best tasting drinking water. Samples were evaluated based on their taste, order, color, and clarity. The city earned the perfect score. the first time in history of the competition in our region showcasing the exceptional quality of the water and the dedication of your utility staff. Congratulations on winning this important award.

Very nice. That's great. Yes.

Looks like we have a number of stars in the midst. These are the folks that make it happen for the city of PMPO Beach.

Want to do a picture? Oh, we see. Is it okay if we do each one individually? It's like the Stanley Cup.

Maybe we should move the stansion so we can get the better picture. Thanks. That's good. Now moving on to our next award, the FSA WWA Landmark Award for pump house number one. This award honors the Florida Water Landmarks at least 50 years old that have had a direct and significant role in the water supply or treatment. Pump house number one was built in the 1926 during the Miami land boom in the Mediterranean revival style. Although retired in the 50s, it now plays a vital role in the Salem monitoring network, helping protect the city's freshwater supply for saltwater intrusion. The facility is maintained by the city and

recognized through the historic preservation committee and the city commission resolution on March 2013. Congratulations on the landmark award. Which one is the right? Oh, wow. Look at that. Very nice.

Very cool. All right, let's stand up everybody, I guess. Back at Back at it. Up, down, up, down.

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I'm promise I'm trying to be fast. Continuing with the next uh is the distribution award for division four. This award recognizes utilities with outstanding performance in water quality uh protection, operational reliability, safety and service to their communities. Eligibility and evaluation criteria from the war are based on the water quality, operational records, maintenance, professionalism, customer service, safety programs, emergency preparedness, and cross connection control. Congratulations on this award as well.

Right. Okay, back at it, folks.

They got a lot of awards. and finally the AWA best-in-class water conservation award. work. This award recognized the city's leadership in conservation initiatives, including lowflow devices and the Oasis Reuse Water Program, as well as community engagement and education. Congratulations to the city of Pmpo Beach for these remarkable accomplishments. Thank you for the com uh the commitment to providing safe and high quality water to your community. All

right. I didn't want to. Okay, one more time. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Appreciate that. And congratulations, of course, to everyone who made this possible. Uh we we know we've got the best water in town. Thank you all for all you do to keep our utilities working. I mean, that's it. That's the main thing. People expect that. Commissioner Eaton,

sorry to interrupt. I I just want to say as well that the reclaim water use is making an immense difference on pushing back that salination line and preserving our well systems throughout the city. I serve on the water advisory board. I get these reports and it is factual. It helps keep the salinization out of our wells. So, thank you, mayor.

Very good. Yes. Absolutely. Great job. Very good. Let's move on to uh next item is the pre-apprenticeship award for water and wastewater operators. This time we'll have Felix Collazo, Junior Achievement of South Florida pre-apprenticeship program director to present Pompeovich utilities department with a pre-apprenticeship award for water and wastewater operators.

Okay, good afternoon. My name is Felix Kazo. I am the director of pre-apprentichip programs at Junior Achievement of South Florida. The pre-apprentichip program is a six-month program for teens and young adults to get introduced to the different trade industries. This program started back in 2022 and this previous year we introduced the new trade of water utilities. Previously it was um maritime industry, construction industry, and now we have water utilities. We wanted to recognize the city of Pmpo Beach for opening up their water utilities and exposing over 300 students to the um the water utilities industry in the operation in um water operation specialist and waste wastewater operation specialists. This is a unique opportunity for teens um in high school all the way up to age 24 to get introduced to these different opportunities if they do not want to pursue a two or four-year degree. And without the city of Pmpo Beach and other utilities and other municipalities, these students would not be exposed to these different opportunities to go into your industry. So, um wanted to show a video to show you guys what it actually looked like when they went through this past year.

Very good. How can we all come together to be better for students, for the youth, for workforce development as a whole? And for our demographic, high school seniors on pace to graduate. They don't really want to pursue a two-year or four-year degree, but they have no idea what they want to pursue. Most of the students are seniors who don't know what they want to do in life yet. They don't they don't know if they want to go to college. They don't know what they want to go to college for and they don't know what's out there that they can do without college. But the one thing about Junior Achievement that they shed a light on how to how to take it as a kid who doesn't even know about it at all.

Starting with JA and being able to build up all the soft skills you needed, you know, workplace conduct, everything you need to know as an employee so you can be the best employee for your employer.

The programming that all the kids go through is just a no-brainer. Uh, I could either take a shot at hiring a super high earning marine fabricator that may or may not want to be a team player or I can get somebody young who's gone through these programs and willing to learn like Jacob, like Armani. So, you taking that chance with us, some of us are really determined to get in and start start making a difference, start figuring out what we can do with our hands. What don't we have to go to college for? How can we make this income without having to have a four-year degree?

Got to take a chance. You have to take a chance. You You could hire somebody with five years of experience and you have no idea if that guy is good or not until he's there. You don't know what his behavior is. you don't know what his work ethic is. You take a chance on an employee that has experience, why not take a chance on somebody that doesn't have any experience and and teach them the way you want them to learn?

I'm very thankful for the Junior Achievement Program for putting me in this position I am today. Very nice. Um, and now call up the city of PMPO Beach Water Utilities to accept your award. Right. Come on down.

One more time. Great job.

Great job, Utilities Department. Yay. All right. taking home the bling there. That's fantastic. All right. And now that that's a great segue to our our next item, which is is a proclamation for Chief Judge Jack Tudtor. Um Jack Tutor, Chief Judge, he has changed so many lives in his tenure. I've got a proclamation over here and like I said, it's a great segue from junior achievement and changing lives and into what uh our chief judge judge has done for us. I'll meet you right there, chief.

Fantastic. We got We got Cassandra. That's good. Come on up, Sandra. everybody else. Um, for those of you who don't know, Pompo Beach is one of the select communities that has something called community court. And and what community court is all about, it's it's changing people's lives, giving them an opportunity to turn things around where maybe they've had some hard luck, they've had some tough times, um, they need some help in various various ways. But this community court that we have in PMPO Beach, like I said, one of the select communities that has it here in Broward County, but we wouldn't have that without this man right here, um, Chief Judge Jack Tudtor. He is the reason, um, without him, this would not have happened in Broward County. So, I've got a proclamation to read, but I just wanted you guys to realize the impact this guy has had on our local population, on helping people who need help. I mean, he he he does the judge stuff, I know, but we wouldn't have these opportunities to change lives like we we do in PMPO Beach without this man right here. And of course, the people the people right beside him. We've got Cassandra. We've got our city attorney's office. I mean, it's it's a team effort, but it really it's it's something most people don't know about in the city of Papa Beach, but our community court, it really does. It makes a tremendous difference. All right. Whereas for eight years, Jack Tutor has faithfully served as chief judge of the 17th Judicial Circuit of Florida and has notably pioneered the creation of three community courts, including the establishment and development of the Pompo Beach Community Court, demonstrating demonstrating exemplary leadership in the administration of justice and a steadfast dedication to serving the needs of the city. And whereas since 2005, during his

tenure on the bench, Judge Tutor has demonstrated an unwavering commitment to the rule of law, the fair and impartial administration of justice, and the protection of the rights of the citizens of Broward County. And whereas under Judge Tutor's leadership, the PMPO Beach Community Court has achieved meaningful progress in rehabilitation, mental health, and substance abuse treatment, and community outreach efforts, contributing to safer streets, the provision of housing and services for individuals in dire need, and the saving of countless lives. And whereas Judge Tutor has fostered a culture of culture of excellence, integrity, and public service throughout the judicial circuit and the broader community for more than 20 years. And whereas the residents of the city of Pmpo Beach and Broward County owe a profound debt of gratitude for Judge Tutor's loyalty, contributions, and service, which will leave a lasting and meaningful impact on the city and its homeless population. Now therefore, be it proclaimed that the mayor of the city of com mayor and city commission of the city of Pmpu Beach do hereby recognize and honor Chief Judge Jack Tudtor for his service to the residents of Broward County by serving on the 17th Judicial Circuit of Florida for his extraordinary devotion to the city of PMPO Beach and his visionary leadership in establishing an innovative community court that will forever transform our city and surrounding communities. done this 13th day of January, 2026. Rex Harden, Mayor, Judge Tutor, thank you so much for what you've done for PMPO Beach, for Broward County, for the citizens, and the entire state of Florida. Thank you, sir.

Thank you very much. Thank you, mayor, very much. Uh, just want to quickly say that um, you know, as chief judge, I get this recognition because I have the title, but it's the cities, the mayors, commissions who uh, voted to incorporate community court into their uh, various areas of the county that made community court successful. This wasn't uh a oneanddone deal. We worked on this since about 1918. It took seven years to kind of get this off the ground. It was a not a hasty uh adventure. But the people like Cassandra and our three judges who man these courts uh every day uh outside the courthouse, we go to the communities and try to do what we can to help people with employment and housing and things like that. Uh so um even though I get a lot of the recognition for this, it really is the cities and the people who work in these courts who make it work day in and day out. When we open the court in Fort Lauderdale, I told Mayor Trantelis, we try it for a year and see how it worked and if it worked, we'd continue on and if it didn't, it's not costing the taxpayers a dime because all all these services are already uh in the community. We just bring them together u on the various meeting days that we have uh every week. So, um, on behalf of, uh, the 17th Circuit, uh, I just want to thank everybody who made these community courts successful. I hope they endure many years past my time, and I hope we, uh, continue to help people who don't really have a voice in the court system. So, thank all of you all very much for this unnecessary recognition. Thank you all very much.

I I I also would be remiss if I didn't say thank you to our city attorney's office for all their hard work in making this happen also and of course our city manager's office for making sure it's staffed. And I mean it's it truly is a group effort. Thank you so much, Judge.

All right, that takes us up to audience to be heard. Do we have anyone signed up to speak this afternoon, Mr. Alfred? Yes, we do, Mayor. We have nine speakers. One of the speakers, however, u by the name of Ted Bone and um indicated that he's here to speak on Hen Walls, which is agenda item 11. Um he's here for that. Then when you call upon that item, then he can come up. Okay. Sure. First speaker is Mark Integ followed by Ed Bone I just not sure if he's all you're going to speak on item 11. Okay. So when it's called upon you have an opportunity to speak then

just name and address for the record. Limit your comments to three minutes please.

Mark and Treala 1401 South Ocean Boulevard. Um I'm here to talk about something completely different today. Uh, I wanted to I belong to the PMPO Beach Men's Golf Association, which was founded in 1955 and has played here in Pmpo Beach for over 70 years. PMPO Beach has two 18-hole golf courses. The Pines Course was renovated two years ago and the Palms course, which is embarrassingly a mess. No effort is being put into improving the Palms Golf Course. And my understanding is that the city will not approve major renovations because there's not enough revenue generated by the Palm's course. This is like a dog chasing its tail. Not enough revenue to invest in it, and nobody wants to play it because it's in terrible shape. To try to improve the numbers, the course has eliminated any special discounts afforded to the men's association. We're forced to play the unrennovated course every other week and counterproductive because half of the members refuse to play it because of its condition. So the city actually gets less revenue than if it lets us play on the pines's course. I don't know how somebody gets appointed to the golf course advisory council, but the person I met last year had no golf experience, no management experience, no anything. So, I don't know what they're advising on relative to the golf course. I'm actually shocked that the Pines course is in such good condition because they seem to be clueless on doing maintenance. In any event, I also don't understand the logic of investing a great deal of money in a golf course that's adjacent to an airport that is constantly being discussed about being expanded. It will by definition take away from a golf course that we put money into. I don't understand. Are we flying by the

seat of our pants or is somebody actually thinking a few years ahead? I don't know. Lastly, one need only look a little north of us to Osprey Point in Bokeh to see a well-managed, well-maintained golf course that's always full. You can't get a tea time. As a side note, it's also a place where you can buy a can of iced tea on the golf course for $3.40 that costs $8 on the golf course in Pompo. I would request that the city consider investing in an incremental improvements to the Palms golf course. I would think that growing grass should be a fundamental requirement of running a golf course. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Next speaker Lewis Rado followed by Brandy Zabada Sabatau. Sorry.

Good afternoon. Louis Rosado, 2267 Southeast 11th Street. Um, happy new year to everybody. Uh just wanted to be a little bit of a squeaky wheel and uh remind everybody about that we weren't able to reset or not.

Very squeaky wheel. Um about my request to hopefully revisit Tiki Hut statutes and zoning and permitting and the way that those are all handled. Um, I really do believe that Tiki Huts in Pmpo Beach, whether you have the Chiki or the Tiki Huts, um, I really do believe it needs to be looked at again. Um, I really believe it enhances the, uh, beauty and character of our NE neighborhoods, reflects the relaxed tropical lifestyle of our waterfront community, and truly represents the idea that we live where others vacation. when we put some of the strict nonsensical rules and zoning regulations on our Tiki Hudson PMPO Beach, it it really is illogical. We are the only town that I can find left, at least in the southeast, state of Florida, definitely Brower County, that has some of these crazy restrictions and of not being able to overhang the water and uh some of the setbacks that just don't make sense when you have no space in the backyards. Um, so please just keep it on the front of your minds. Don't forget about it. Let me know if we can be of any assistance from this end. That's it.

Very good. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Next speaker, Randy, followed by Mike Severki, followed by Rodrik Phillips.

Hello. Happiest new year. My name is Brandy Zabadol. I live within the PMPO Beach Highlands. Um, I'm here today to address the fact that we have had three and a half meetings without any proper representation from the city. uh we have no commissioners that attend our meetings and our residents are starting to get very upset. So at this point if I have to address the dis and come here in person to convey the information that is being missed and not given to the proper people um I will have to do that. Um you we elected you guys as our city officials. We put you in these chairs and it's time that you properly represent us as a whole. We are not being heard in the PMPO Beach Highlands and we are tired of it. the everyone is replaceable. And that that is that for that. I just wanted to take a moment to thank Parks and Wreck. I'd like to thank Scott Moore and Caitlyn Kerr and again Tommy Bright for all of the improvements and the collaborative effort to try and bring back the the parks in our neighborhood. I have actively been working on the street light repairs that Commissioner Rhonda Seagerson Eaton had brought to our neighborhood. Apparently in her newsletter she said that. Um, so I have counted 62 street lights that are not fully operational, whether they be on during the day or not on at night or simply a whole street that is not on at all. So, I just wanted to bring that to your attention. I am working with the city engineer, I believe his name is John. Um, we are getting that repaired. Again, 62 street lights that are not operational in our neighborhood among many other things. I can't wait to do a deep dive. Thank you very much. I appreciate your time. Very good.

Mayor Commissioner Secret. Yes. Thanks, Mayor. I just quick question related to just mayer to Mr. Harrison. We also in Ampo Beach in the Harbor uh shores area uh Hillsboro Shores area rather have had issues with some lights out as well and I know that that's been an ongoing issue. So maybe this is something we would need to look at comprehensively across all districts wherever we've have lighting projects and things like that because it's been pretty dark there. Just wanted to make sure I brought it to your attention. Well, stop in mind. Okay. You may commissioner Sigerson eaten.

Yeah, thank you. Um okay, so uh we deal with Florida Power and Light on the repairs and the installation of these street lights has made an immense difference in the community for the safety of the residents. uh walking down the street, walking their pets, riding their bike, the kids, um etc. And they also have gone a long way in deterring crime. The incidents of small theft and creepers uh coming in and rifling through people's automobiles has decreased. So, I am very proud of the lights that we have that I've been working for since before I was elected because there are many communities including Leisureville who had absolutely no lights on their street. West Haven had very very few. So, it's been a great thing. It's a very complicated grid, right? I'm not an electrician. I'm not FPNL. So they do install them and I don't have like some sort of fairy wand or that I fly around on a magic carpet every night and know where the lights are. So repeatedly I appeal to my residents to please let me know if there's a problem with your street lights if it's out if it's malfunctioning. And that is that has been the an enormous help. Um it's simply u my my cell phone numbers on all my business cards. It's simply a call or a text and I get our city engineer and uh we do that. In fact, we just recently installed lights on 10th Way where that was dark and leading towards the Elk Club. Those folks requested a better lighting system, make it safer and we we provided that for them and that I am very proud of. Um, as far as the

Highlands Civic Association meeting, I just got an invite from you, Brandy, the other day for the first time, and I don't know how many went. I've been going to the Highland Civic Association for the past 15 years when Charlotte Bur was the Excuse me, mayor. Go ahead. She's out of order. Go ahead. Go ahead, Commissioner. And uh, yeah, ladies and ladies and gentlemen, ladies and ladies and gentlemen, interrupt me,

please. from the audience because we have rules. So, um um at any rate, um I've I've only I've only known you to be there for the last year. So, I've been doing it for 15 and you this last year is the first time I've seen you at the meeting. So, I appreciate you're bringing forth these issues because that go ahead. That's what a good citizen does. So, let me just say thank you, Brandy. Very good. Very good. Thank you, Vice Mayor.

Thank you. Thank you for bringing that forward, Brandy. Um, I I just want I don't want to beat a dim street light here, but uh there is one other part of this. So, residents can go on the FPL site and especially if it's the older style lights and make a uh a notice or a ticket themselves to generate um a ticket number when there is an issue. So perhaps the city can do a little bit of a social media campaign on that to raise awareness that there is an identifier on the polls, especially for the older style street lights. I know for the ones that were just installed, the maintenance might be handled differently. But for the old ones in the city, uh there is a way for residents to report it themselves and that gets the process started. Now, if it doesn't if it's not addressed in a timely manner, certainly feel free to let your commissioners know. We we all field a lot of these inquiries, but to get the process started, anyone can do it themselves on a simple website link. Thank you.

Thank you. Next speaker, Mr. Skavorverki. No more comments. Thank you. Have something to say? Just welcome Mr. Skverki. Happy New Year, Mike.

Um Mike Scverki, 1630 Southwest 5th Avenue. Um well since the uh water department received awards I must say um I don't know why anybody bottle buys bottled waters here. Bottled water. The water is absolutely perfect in PMPO. And you may not like this part. It's always been perfect. When I moved here over 30 years ago, one of the first things I did was test the water because I'm like, "Oh no, what is the water going to taste like down here?" The water has always been good from day one that I moved here all the time. I don't know why anybody bottles buys bottled water here. Now, the main thing I wanted to talk about, and I was already told this won't happen, but it almost did happen at the uh the new courts we have here at Kip Jacobe Park. Um uh I I help well I help a lot of people out um newbies playing pickle ball but this one girl that I help out um when we got done there was a park ranger there and he was writing down information and she was going to her car and I I said what are you doing and he was going to have the car towed because she was parking on the grass. So, I just want to get this out there that that's why I'm mainly here that that it's I was told that nothing is getting towed, but the park ranger was going to tow the car. There's no parking there. So, people are parking on the grass and this we have to make sure that people's cars do not get towed because there's no room to park. I mean, I saw the um uh the the the pictures of these courts when they were going to get put up, and personally, I didn't really believe that there would be no parking in front. I thought that stuff would be pushed back further. So, I really take those photographs and stuff with a grain of salt. And what they said was true, there is no parking. The courts are right up on the street. So we we have to

make sure that nobody's cars get towed while parking over over at Kip Jacob because they are on the grass and there's no room. So that's my main reason why I'm here. Appreciate that. Thank you sir. Mayor Vice Mayor. Thank you. Thank you Mike for coming out. It's good to see you. Um it is always good to see you. Happy New Year. Come.

Okay. So uh the as expected the courts at Kip Jacobe are a big success. They are occupied early in the mornings and late at night. We have had some parking issues and I know the city is is working on some plans to hopefully expand the the parking there. So be patient with us. We are working on that. Uh and there have been some other you know minor growing pains and we fully expect that. So feel free to bring those forward to us so we can continue to improve it. Thank you. Very good. Thank you for that. Uh, next speaker, Mr. Phillips,

Rob Phillips, 2620 Northwest 10th Street. Good afternoon, commissioners. I I'm here today to bring good news. uh black trail festival event is coming up and everyone on the dasis is invited. Uh I I I pulled this up. This is on the website. Uh and and once I when I finish reading this, I'm going to sit down. uh founded by the blind cheetah high school class of 1970. A group of African-Americans who grew up on segregation in PMP beach barred from shared schools, churches, beaches, and public spaces. They witnessed racial barriers gradually fail in their community. Our journey in 1995, these pioneers launched the Tiger Trail Festival to transform struggle into celebration. What began as a homage to empowerment, black power, fight the power, push forward, evolve into a timeless mission, fostering unity through diversity. Our spirit today while honoring the past, the festival now centers on inclusion and gratitude. Recognizing that progress required solidarity across racial lines, including pivotal support from white allies, Tiger Trail celebrates how far Proper Beach has come together. our legacy. Every February, we host community events that showcase African-American heritage, bridge cultural divides, honor those who stood beside us, inspire the next generation of unity, we rise by lifting others, and acknowledging those who lifted us. Even though we live in a a a very uh

troubling administration, Pomp Beach has has grown to stick together. We are a multicultural community. The TRA Festival is here to bring our multicultural community during Black History Month where we acknowledge that black history is American history. And we invite everyone in the city of Pompo to come out and participate in this 30-year reunion with the help of the city of Pompa Beach, Florida, and the mayor and Miss Perkins and Miss Fornier, Darlene Smith, uh, Al Audrey Fisk and and Rhonda Sig Sigerson Eaton. We ask all the commissioners and the people, the executive committee to come out and help us celebrate the tag 12 festival on that day. Thank you very much.

Very good. Thank you, Mr. Phillips. Appreciate it. Yes, Mr. Phillips, did you want to did you want to announce the outfit that the time date and time for everybody else? Oh, date date and time for of the of the festival. So that that so that for everybody else who might want to participate. What's the date and time, Rodri? Uh, go on the internet. Tag Trail Festival www.com. Seriously, Tag Trail Festival www.com. I don't have that information, miss. Plus, there are there's a series of of events that are taking place. Yes, we have we have five events and the first one is February the 1st in uh district 5 uh trailblazers events and and I know uh Darlene, she's always on point.

Very good. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Next speaker, followed by Melissa Weekly, followed by Paul Livingway. First of all, like to say happy new year. While I stand, I give God honor. I just um I have a concern. Just name and address for the record.

My name is Wayne Vin, 2420 Northwest 7th Street, PMPO Beach, Florida. Um, I just want to say that I had a concern. I was reading Mayor Inside the Pelican and um there's there's a project that was going on over off of 19th and it got approved. And on our side, uh, Commissioner Darlene, it got it got shot down. But anyway, what I want to say, mayor, is that we need lowincome housing in our community. There's a lot of housing getting built. There's a lot of things going on in Pompo, but my concern is that we we definitely need lowincome housing because, you know, this community, you know, the city of Pompo is growing. There's a lot of construction going on, but we need lowincome housing. And I walk the community and I see what be going on and it's like we have elderly. We have we have people that have trees that's growing up behind their houses. They're they're older people. they can't get out there and they can't do it. I know a lady, she got trees growing up behind her house and she she can't go out there and cut them. So, I hope the city can do something about it and fix the problem. And in my closing, let us remember doc Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. This is a man that gave gave his life for not only blacks, for all people. and let us come together this month and let's celebrate him because we don't want what happened last year. And I want to thank all the commissioners. I want to thank city manager and also all the commissioners for all the work that you're doing. Also, before I leave, I want to thank BSO for all the hard work that you're doing because I see you out there in the community. See you cleaning up the

streets. I see what you're doing. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Next speaker. Mayor, commissioners, nice to meet everybody. My name is Melissa Weekly. I reside at 2680 Northeast 23rd Street in PMPO. Um before addressing the substance of the item number 15 on the agenda, the freestanding er concerns about the process. Um Miss Weekly with the first and second readings weekly,

I'm sorry, but that's that item is on our agenda, so you'll have to wait. Understand? This is about the process. Can I finish real quick?

Yeah. Go ahead. It's different. The first and second reading of this proposed code amendment were scheduled during weekday meetings at 1 p.m. While this may meet minimum legal requirements, it significantly limits the ability of working residents to participate and be heard. I had to take off this afternoon to come down here. This is citywide zoning code change with permanent consequences and meaningful public engagement matters. When both readings are heard at the same time of day without staggered evening access, many voices voices are effectively excluded. I respectfully ask the commission to consider whether this process truly reflects transparency, accessibility, and community participation, especially for an amendment of this magnitude. This is not the first time that this has happened. Thank you.

Very good. Thank you, ma'am. Mayor, next please. No, no applause. Commissioner Essick. Yes,

thank you. So, this this is actually I think something that we revisited last year initially. Um, and in there was some consensus that we wanted to have meetings so some people could attend at 1 p.m., some people could attend at 6 p.m. Um, but I'd like to I'd like to make a motion because I've gotten a lot of emails about people not being able to attend for things that were very important to them because they had to take off work. And I since we've already revisited the just moving everything to 6 pm. Instead, what I'd like to make a motion is is to have on anything that requires a second reading that we make sure that if the first one's at 1 p.m., the second one's at 6 p.m. If the first one's at 6 p.m., the second one's at 1 p.m. So that there's at least that option for people who have to take off work or, you know, depending on whose schedule is which, they have the opportunity to show up for one of the two meetings based on their schedule. So I'd like to make that motion that we stagger them. Uh, anything that requires two readings.

Um, that's that's fine. U m, mr. Burman, is it appropriate to have a motion to that effect right now? If yes, there's no problem with the motion right now. This second reading. All right. Thank you. Because yeah, it doesn't really impact what's on our agenda already, right? No, it won't wouldn't today. It wouldn't take effect today. Okay. So there's the there's been a motion to uh going forward to ensure that um for items that have two readings, one reading take place will both readings not take place at the same time frame. Thank you.

To stagger them. That would be the motion. Very good. Then there's a second from Commissioner Perkins. Discussion on the motion. Commissioner Secret. Yeah, I was just going to say um I think a lot of it is due to the fact that the holidays have limited the amount of meetings and um but I and that's why things have gotten a little offkilter. Um but generally that ends up being the way things do but I can support that. Thank you.

Very good. Further discussion on the motion, Vice Mayor. Yeah, in theory I agree and I've been one of the proponents of moving the meetings to to 6 pm to allow greater attendance. I do have concerns about this motion though because if you are on the first November meeting with the way we take off the second meetings in December and November who get to a second reading in the evening, you would be at the second January meeting. So if there was something that needed to be done in quickly and and then it it wouldn't be possible. So, um, while I agree with it, I think there's some complexity to it, um, from a timing perspective for applicants or for anything we needed to accomplish.

Thank you. Very good, Commissioner Smith. And I'm just and I agree with the vice mayor that um I don't know that we want to have a hard and fast rule. So, I'm not sure that we need to have a motion. And I just think we can direct staff to accommodate especially issues where we have we know there'll be a large audience to be heard. So I'm not so sure that we want to do a motion and a vote, but just to direct staff to try to accommodate that. Very good. Got Commissioner Fess again.

Just one last one last portion of that is so we have had I'm happy I agree that it could be very delayed especially through the holiday seasons or perhaps the time during summer recess. you know, maybe and maybe the motion should be amended then to so for example, right now we've had over a year and you know, we have air park issues that was at one o'clock last in February of last year and they're again on a one o'clock meeting this time. So these are and there's three different items. So that's one of the reasons why I feel strongly about this. And also I've just gotten a lot of feedback about people saying that they can't make these 1pm meetings that they are working. And so I think it I think we really need to do some research and maybe that comes down to a strategic outreach um before we move to a motion. But I would really like to see this 6 pm meeting or even if it's 5M meeting and this goes for all of our meetings to not be in the middle of the day um and and to come back to an evening meeting. I think they'll end up being shorter, which would be lovely for all of us. And I think they'll be more effective so that residents can actually have the opportunity to feel like they can come and speak at a at a at a meeting and have their voices heard without just sending an email. So, I would amend my emotion to have staff do a have staff do a public outreach and see if there would be resident I guess residents would be amendable to moving the meeting times, not necessarily just us. I'd like to see some data.

So, back to 6 PM for all of them. So, you're you're you're changing your motion to directing staff to do some sort of a survey. Well, directing staff to bring it back to to bring it reach out to the residents through our strategic, we have newsletters, we have polls. Bring that back to us with an agenda item with some information so that we can't just arbitrarily decide that we think it should be 6 pm or 1 pm. That we have some data behind it. And I think that's important. Okay. So, the is is the resend rescend your second? Yes. Okay. So, this the original motion has been uh rescended and now you're making this new motion asking staff to go out and and bring it back to us. Right. And bring it back to us.

Back to us. Okay. Is there a second to that motion? That one dies for lack of second. Very good. We're done. That's it. Can I We're under audience to be heard that the motion just died. Is it very good? Next speaker, Mr. Living

Paul Livingway 812 North Ocean Boulevard in Pompo Beach here. I contacted the commissioner a couple months back in front of my condo. I live directly on the ocean. There is a buoy. It's in the sand dunes. It cannot be seen from the beach. If you walk or ride down the beach, you cannot see it. From my apartment, I see it every day. I sent the commissioner pictures a couple of months ago. Nothing has happened. Um, I have pictures of it. I think the proper authority should be. Now, this thing is about 10, 12 feet long, foot wide, painted white, has identification on it, and at one time I believe there was buoys that prevented boats and jet skis from coming inside and possibly injuring swimmers. This buoy was moved there because it could not have floated there. It has to be physically picked up and put there. But the thing is, and I want to emphasize, you cannot see it. If you walk or drive down the beach, they have my phone number. If they want to contact me, I will assist in any way I can to have this buoy identified, removed, and given to the proper authority. Change of subject. a brand new condo went up two units north of me. Uh, a couple years back, the city or the county or the government came in and established beach erosion by planting a

sea quite a bit. This new condominium has wiped out that dune, which is for beach erosion. Um, there's nothing there. It's gone. So I think uh maybe the city should look into it because it doesn't when we supported it it was based on beach erosion. So thank you very much. Very good. Mr. Livingway just any questions? Can you give it give your address again? Mr. Mr. Harrison, can you have somebody look into that this buoy issue? What's your what's your address? 812

812 North Ocean. 812 North Ocean. So um Mr. Mr. Harrison, if you can have somebody from our If they if they need it, they have my phone number and I can direct them from my balcony or they can come to my apartment and I can point it out. But from the beach, if you're walking or doing, you cannot see it. It's in a depression behind a dune. Very good. So, that's where it's at. Okay. Nice seeing you, Rex. Good seeing you, Mr. Ling. Thank you. How you doing? Good. Nice to see you. Just Commissioner Fess.

Thank you. I just wanted to follow with that. there though I think there was some initial issues whether um where where it was on the property whether it was in the the condo's property or or public or on the dune property but the biggest concern that he had was that it was it was labeled and he didn't want to he wanted to make sure that it got back to the propert was was removed but got back to the property authorities as well and was accounted for um be looking forward to seeing if there was resolution I assume there was thank you very good for those audience to be heard mayor that's it okay very Thank you for that. All right, that takes us up to our consent agenda. Can I get a motion approving items three through five? So moved. Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor say I. I.

I. Opposed. Motion carries unanimous. Thank you. Item one is a resolution resolution of the city commission of the city of Palm Beach, Florida, approving and authorizing the proper city officials to execute a piggyback agreement between the city of Palm Beach and Royal Auction Group, Inc. for professional auctioneer services of vehicles, supplies and equipment providing an effective date. So moved. Second. Moved and second for discussion. This item was pulled by Vice Mayor Fornier. Vice Mayor,

thank you, mayor. I just want to briefly ask a few questions and talk about this because fleet management is I think an important topic and maybe one where there's some opportunities in our budget. Um this says no fiscal impact. So um Mr. Raan, what happens when we decide that uh we're going that we're the life of a vehicle is is passed or that it's time to to get rid of a vehicle um that we own versus lease.

Right. Good afternoon, mayor, commission. Rob McConn, public works director. So, if it's uh lease or enterprise, it goes back to enterprise and then they're responsible for uh the sell off of the vehicle for all the city- owned equipment. in the previously we've been using an online auction service called Renee Bates and um typically you know every fiscal year we have our capital outlay we get new equipment and now we have all this other equipment that we need to take out of service and that's when we go to auction the vehicles with Renee Bates it was fantastic we could use it however we felt we needed to um but with that um we the city had to pay the seller search fee of 4% per vehicle the the for the value that we got. Um also with that we had to do all the leg work to document the the condition of the vehicle take all the photos. It was pretty time consuming. We found out about Royal Auction is the big positive with that is um this the buyer pays the fee. So there's no cost to the city. Uh this is done through Fort Myers, Florida. They come pick up the vehicle, they document the history of the vehicle, take all the photos. Um so there's no cost to the city and we can really do it more often because it's not as much leg work on staff to prep those vehicles for auction. So that's the way we auction vehicles and it is again the great thing is no cost to the city.

Okay. So, I understand there's no cost to the city in with this new company that we're going with, but um there is a net positive to the city that must come in every year from these vehicles. And I'm sure it varies depending on what we surplus what we auction that year, but what what does the city get in terms of revenue from these? When we auction a vehicle, does the city get any money? Yes. Right. So, what about how much do we approximately make? And I'm just I'm sure it varies widely year-over-year, but approximately what can we make, right, a year from auctioning vehicles?

It varies. It depends on the market. One example that we love to use, this was with the previous auction, but it's it's shows you what's there. Um, I believe it was a Ford F-150 truck. The city used that vehicle for seven years and we got $1,000 less than what we paid for it. Wow. So it varies. Um we do everything from heavy equipment, loaders, dump trucks, and so it just varies on the type of vehicle and when the construction uh market's booming, they want those vehicles. Just like I think nationwide, used vehicles are had a real the demand for used vehicles went up. So it just depends,

right? I'm sure it depends on what type of vehicles we're getting rid of in a given year. Some might have more value than others. Now, what happens when we give it back to Enterprise? Who gets that money if they Well, it the city gets it in that typically our leases with Enterprise are five years and that vehicle is sold and it's rolled back into the when we lease the vehicle again. If you mean by rolled back into when we say that it's justified to keep that vehicle in the inventory and then that's figured into the the future lease cost, monthly lease cost for that vehicle. Okay. What if we don't release that vehicle?

Okay. Allison Fetardo, finance director. Um to answer your question regarding if when we return these vehicles and for the funding, there are two options that we can do. The excess cash, we can get the cash up front or we can apply that excess cash to the reduction of any new vehicles that we acquire or the reduction of the principal payments on those vehicles. Okay. Okay. So, just when I see this and it says fiscal impact, nothing. I understand we're trying to say we're not paying this company, but there there is a net positive fiscal impact when we sell these vehicles. Correct. Okay. Thank you. Okay.

Very good. This is a public hearing. Is there any input from the public on this item? Seeing none public input closed further commission discussion? Commissioner Fessk. Thank you. I I just had a quick question related to our fleet in general. So, I think we revisited this We we talked about this briefly last year, but how many I mean how many cars, vehicles, etc. are we auctioning off, I guess, on on average or how many how large is our fleet and what does that percentage look like? Rental versus ownership,

right? Well, one, we limit the vehicles we lease from enterprise for general purpose, meaning sedan, um, small trucks, pickups. We don't lease any of the specialized equipment like dump trucks, loaders. Um so I I don't know the exact percentage. Um it has increased over the years because we started out with a very small number the general purpose and we've continued to add more to that list. Um so I I'm sorry I don't off top of my head I don't know the the to

that's all right. I just I I was just concerned. I was just questioning I guess if we are like a like Miss Ferta said it was it gets rolled back into or you know a new lease if there's a if there's a either a payback or if there's if we want to buy it outright if there's a cost. I'm just trying to look at and maybe we can get this at another time, but kind of do a little bit of a deep dive into finding out if it's more expensive for us in the long term to lease from Enterprise or if it is more advantageous to us as a city as a budget to hold on to property and then resell it perhaps again through this option system and just maybe it's time for us to kind of look at some of those numbers and try to find some ways um just we have some information from that and look forward in budgeting for this coming year. All right, you

very good. Further commission. Vice Mayor, I think I can address some of those questions because we asked for this data. So I believe we have about 403 vehicles and about 70 of them are leased through Enterprise. Does that sound I would say that's sounds about right.

And of the leased vehicles, I remember I looked at this, 70% of them are driven less than 5,000 miles a year. That was always my concern with our our leasing of these vehicles. they are have such light use and then we when we when we turn them in after the let's say five years how is the value of that vehicle calculated so we know when it goes to an auction and we sell a vehicle it's calculated by the market price what the market will pay how is the vehicle how is the price that we get back from enterprise calculated

I I don't know that but also I think enterprise in general has their sources that they go to to as they throughout they're uh leasing through the public in general at the airports and everywhere else. They have different sources that they get rid of those sell off those vehicles. I don't know what their process is.

Okay. My my point back then was always we are returning after four, five, whatever six years vehicles that have very low miles, very low wear and tear on them. So, if we're going to lease a vehicle, those are the vehicles I want to beat the heck out of basically. Um and and and then if we're going to buy if we're need something specialized, yes, we we obviously need to buy it. But I still think there's opportunity to look at this enterprise lease and and um maybe figure out ways to especially if the used market is holding up for for um these auction in these auction services, maybe it makes more sense to be purchasing vehicles. Thank you. Very good. Further commission discussion? Seeing none, let's go ahead and call the role. Commissioner Fez. Yes. Commissioner Perkins.

Yes. Commissioner Seager Eaton. Yes. Commissioner Smith. Yes. Vice Mayor Forier. Yes. Harton. Yes. Item two is a resolution resolution of the city commission of the city of Pmplo Beach, Florida, rescending resolution number 2026-33 and approving and authorizing the proper city officials to execute an amendment to the agreement modifying certain crossing agreements between the city of Pala Beach, Florida East Coast Railway LLC FEC and Bright Line Trains Florida LLC and furtherance of the Broward County Sealed Carter project along the Florida East Coast Railway and Bright Line Carter within Broward County, Florida, providing an effective date. So moved. Second. Moved and second for discussion. This item was pulled by Commissioner Perkins. Commissioner.

Yes. Thank you, Mayor. Um I'm aware that this is about the crossing agreement. Correct. And um I know this is a part of the the safety of it.

Yes. And when this came up before, I'm still concerned about a Bright Line train being one of the most dangerous uh passenger trains in the um United States. And we've had over 157 deaths with that train since 2017. And I've asked this question in the last meeting about why and and how do we get rid of the the sound of the train? Um because well there's not very much we can do as far as suicides, but I think there's a lot more the city can do uh with the FEC to secure um those those crosses um in our city. How many crosses do we have in our city that bright line pass?

Again, Rob McCublic works director. Uh commissioner, there's um on the FEC line, I think there's uh six crossings, but we don't hold the agreements to all those crossings. For example, um Broward County has Copen's Road, FDOT has Sample Road, and uh the county also has Southwest 6th Street. So, the three agreements, uh, 33rd Street is not included in here. That's also a city crossing, but it's just these three are what's impacted now in this sealed corridor project.

Okay. Okay. Um, I still would like for those sites that we do control. I would still like for the city to look more into some type of safety measures for the community. I just feel if you can't see the train, you could hear it. Um and and that might help save some lives because I think 80% of the time in every place I have to go, I have to cross that railroad track basically. So if we can look into doing a little bit more to secure um a rail crossings u from staff, Mr. City Manager, I would really appreciate that. Thank you.

Very good. This is a public hearing. Is there any input from the public on this item? Seeing none, public input closed. Commission discussion. Vice Mayor, thank you. So, we are rescending what we passed on November 13th. Yes, this um what is the difference besides the fiscal impact? Because on that agenda item, there was no fiscal impact for this.

Correct. And there's no fiscal impact with this um change. And the memo I highlighted in yellow, what's changed? Um again, this memo applies to all six cities and the 21 crossings that are impacted with the sealed corridor. Each of these cities have various agreements with FEC. Some of them had different agreements that may allow um FEC to pay a portion of the cost for those within Pompo. The three that are affected. We're paying full cost anyway. So therefore, there was no impact before, there's no impact now. But being fully transparent, we wanted to make sure the memo did change and we wanted to make sure that we put the approved memo in the agreement.

Okay. And I see that and I uh we talked about this in my meeting with the city manager on Monday that this is just the maintenance costs for these upgraded intersections. But what is the 70,000 annually then? That's what we were paying already. It just is being called out more explicitly.

That's correct. And that's a a wag, right? Um there's a a known for those three crossings. Uh it's roughly 7,000 a year for the maintenance of the signals. Then it varies of when they're going to repair the crossing. That crossing repair could cost 100 to 120,000. By the way, different railroad track, the um CSX track or this um on the west by 33rd Street Tri Rail Station, that repair is going to be $810,000. It's a threetrack crossing. So, depending on what's needed, it varies, but I prorrate it out. It seems like every five years they're going to modify these crossings in some manner. So, I that's why I spread it out. 70,000 is an estimate.

Okay. But basically what you're saying is we've always been maintaining these. There's going to be some safety improvements that are done. We're still going to be maintaining them and it's probably not going to cost us materially more to maintain them after that work is done. Correct. Okay. Thank you. Very good. Further commission discussion. Commissioner Secret.

Thank you, Mayor. Uh, so driving down Dixie today, I'm just so happy that we've gotten so many of those lovely improvements down the medium strips, the repaving, and the future in interest of trying to prevent people from crossing in unauthorized places. I know Deerfield did a great job in working on fencing and the facts are that there are certain rightaways where we can and can't because it's not our land and um it's it's as complicated as a Florida Power and Light street light grid. And currently, as I understand it, uh there's been an ownership change and you're dealing with a behemoth company and it's difficult, I think, over the years to try and well, we first of all, we have to have money in order to do these improvements. Um but I just want to thank staff and I know you've been working. I Dixie is in my um district and um I supported it in the GO bond issue and I I and I know staff has been working hard because I've had many meetings and questions and been updated on on some of the progress we've made both with the improvements along Dis Dixie and with trying to get those safety measure uh measures, fences, etc. and all the crossings. So, um, we wish, uh, we could get it done faster. I certainly do because it's very important to have that safety. So, uh, but again, just thanks staff. I know it's been very complicated and you're all working very hard to get it done. That's Thank you, Mayor.

Very good. Further commission discussion. Seeing none, let's go ahead and call the role. Commissioner Fezic, yes. Commissioner Perkins, yes. Commissioner Seagerson, Eaton, yes. Commissioner Smith, yes. Vice Mayor Fonier, yes. Harton. Yes. That takes us up to our regular agenda. Item number 15 is a second reading of an ordinance.

An ordinance of the city commission of the city of Palm Beach, Florida, amending chapter 155 zoning code of the city of Palm Beach code of ordinances by amending section 155.4209 institutional healthc care uses to further define listed uses and standards for separation from residential uses and for overnight treatment and to create a new use for hospital-based off-campus emergency department. providing for definitions in article 9 definitions and interpretation part five terms and uses defined by amending appendix A consolidated use table to reflect existing and new healthc care uses providing preservability providing an effective date so moved second moved and second for discussion Dolan

thank you mayor commission Gan Dolan development services this is the second reading of the ordinance there's been no changes since the December 9th first reading and the applicant and myself are both present if you have any addition questions. Very good. And the applicant wish to make any presentation or simply here for questions. Dennis Mey, 200 East Broward Boulevard, Fort Lauderdale. On behalf of the applicant, I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have at the end of the public comment period, like the opportunity to respond as appropriate. Thank you.

Very good. Thank you for that. This is a public hearing. Is there any input from the public on this item? Please come forward. Just name and address for the record. Mark and Trigal 1401 South Ocean Boulevard. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, for moving this up. I wasn't going to stay, but lucky you uh I'm here. Um this, as I recall from the from the last meeting, there was a doctor from this organization that stood up and said this was not going to involve emergencies with screaming ambulances, with people requiring requiring hospitalization. So, as far as I'm concerned as a member of the public, it's a little blurry to me as to what the difference then would be between this and an urgent care center. The other thing I would like to point out, as I believe I heard at the last meeting, was that the city itself, the zoning department or whatever was recommending against this zoning change. So, I want to point out that there's some inconsistencies in how it's presented to us by the commissioners here. When I have commissioners, I listen to commissioners speak about how they don't want to be experts on parking garages. They don't want to be experts on bridges. We have to rely on the experts that work at the city. And yet, they voted for this against the recommendation of the city. It doesn't make any sense to me. That's all I have to say.

Very good. Further input from the public. Please come forward. Name and address for the record. James Scott, Pumpo Beach Cowboys President. Again, I support this address. Northwest 27 Northwest 2761 Northwest Pump Northwest 2761 Northwest 4th Court Beach 33069. And again, I support this. We're

good. Thank you, sir. Next speaker. Hi, Melissa Weekly, 2680 Northeast 23rd Street, Pompo. This amendment is not correcting an error in the code or implementing a comprehensive plan goal. It is a private applicant seeking to change the rules after the fact. This sets a dangerous precedence for zoning integrity. State law govern how a freestanding ER operates, not where it belongs. Local zoning exists specifically to decide where intense medical uses should be located. If the use can operate 24 hours a day, it should not be treated the same as daytime medical offices or urgent care. The planning and zoning board correctly recognized this distinction, as did the many residents around the site petition for zoning changes. This amendment does more than add freestanding ERS. It quietly loosens standards for other medical uses. The key concern, urgent care standards would be weakened. 24-hour versus non- 24-hour distinctions removed. Specialty medical standard changes under the umbrella of consistency. Why it matters? This creates unintended expansion beyond the stated purpose. When a planning and zoning board votes 6 to1 to deny a code amendment, it signals a serious policy change, a concern, not a minor disagreement. Ignoring strong uh planning and zoning vote weakens the credibility of the planning process. This is one this is a one-way door. Once adopted, the city cannot control who uses it or where and beyond what is written in the code today. If commissioners believe freestanding ERS may be appropriate somewhere, the correct path is a comprehensive medical use study or

sightspecific zoning tools, not a blanket amendment. If there is a need to revisit medical zoning, it should be done through a city initiated planning process, not an applicant-driven amendment. This second reading is not about whether freestanding ERS are good or bad. It's about whether the city of Pompo Beach should change its zoning code at a request of a private applicant, weaken medical use standards, overrides a 6:1 planning and zoning recommendation, and allow 24-hour emergency facilities closer to residential neighborhoods without a comprehensive planning study. For these reasons, this amendment would be denied. Nothing about the underlying issue changed, only the approach they are taking, which is to lower our standards as a city. I'm requesting the mayor and the commissioners vote no because this amendment was driven by a private applicant after planning and zoning recommended denial, and we, the residents, do not believe the proposed language serves the broader public's interest that we should align with a comprehensive plan. Are you comfortable owning the policy change long term? What precedence does this set? And can this come back to bite you the city later? Thank you.

Very good. Thank you. Next speaker.

Any further please come forward. Just name and address for the record. Dr. Craig Kushner, uh, 9180, Benedetta Place, Bocarone, Florida 33496. I, uh, just wanted to talk about what the gentleman had brought up concerning lights and sirens and the difference between freestanding ED and urgent care. Freestanding emergency departments provide much more comprehensive care. We have CAT scan, ultrasound, um ability to treat patients in a and also bird board certified emergency physicians are on staff. If you go to an urgent care, oftentimes you're just taken care of by a either a family physician or a advanced level practitioner. So the care at a freestanding emergency department is much more comprehensive. But that still doesn't change how EMS approaches these. We do not bring critical patients to these hospitals because even though they can deliver more comprehensive care, the ability to treat those conditions isn't always there at a freestanding emergency department. Oftentimes the patients have to be transferred to another facility. So, we try to as EMS I full disclosure I I do work for HCA Northwest and I also am uh an emergency physician that works in the community for several uh municipalities for EMS. So, in my municipalities, we have freestanding emergency departments. We do not transport patients that potentially have life-threatening conditions or would need advanced like admission or further level of care to these facilities. So that's mainly the difference is that we do not trans even though they these

centers do provide higher level of care, more comprehensive care uh than urgent care. We don't transport patients that potentially could be sick and thus we don't need lights and sirens to transport these patients to facilities. So um that's that's really it. Very good. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Thank you for your service. Other input from the public, please come forward. just name and address for the record.

Hello. Yes. Uh my name is Courtney Carter. I'm from the zone 4 area, Liberty Park area. So I want to come to say that a lot of our local jobs is given away from people from not from our community. And I and the community is very upset. the mo majority of the big jobs that's here now in this community is not given to the contractors of this community. So I'm here today to speak for my community and I'll be back.

Very good. Thank you, sir. Further input from the public, please come forward. Anyone else? Very good. Public input closed. Thank you. Commission discussion. Commissioner Fess. Um, just wanted to to question one thing. I don't want to get into the business side of things, but I I stated last time I would have to agree with the residents without getting into the business side. We have to look at this for what it is. This is a zoning code text amendment that is applied citywide. Um, I stated at the last reading that my concerns were based on loosening our regulations with uh Florida Senate Bill 180. any massive zoning change or any major change we make that that reduces the home rule or the right for us to make those decisions can't be currently can't make things more restrictive we can only make things more lenient once we make them more lenient we can't come around and fix it later so I I personally taking any zoning code or text amendment I want to take that very seriously because I want to make sure that any of these things don't have unintended long-term consequences secondly to to address the fact that the planning and zoning department uh said that they recommended denial. That's a big strong issue for me. And lastly, the residents have been very loud, at least in district one, um because this one specifically relates to a local uh a local business that is looking to open and use this opportunity to do so. But this can be applied to every single area in PMPO Beach if we do this. I would have to agree that if we want to try this again the right way, then we would do it on a on a special exception basis rather than a blanket zoning code. Um so I would not support this again. Secondly, um just simply because of that. Thank you.

Very good. Further commission discussion. Vice Mayor,

I have a question. I want to say something quickly also. Um I also respect the work that our planning and zoning board has done. This has been through ZBA in different forms over the years. And I did receive a lot of emails um just in the last week or so about this again. So um I I am with respect to the emails many of them said they wanted to be here but they could not and that they reiterated that they've been to so many meetings about this. So I want to quickly ask Mr. Burman something about um Commissioner Fez's point be before. Um, so Commissioner Fezic made the motion that to have items like this that require two readings on a one o'clock, one at a one o'clock meeting, one at a six o'clock meeting. And I'm not going to make a motion, but I'm going to ask you, would it be possible for us to say it has to be done that way if there are dissenting votes in the at the first reading?

It could be done. I don't know how it would operate. I think it would be difficult to function. Keep in mind that whenever there's an item such as this one, if you want to use a motion can always be made to postpone to the next meeting, if you if something comes up, rather than having some hard standing fast rule that may work out for us or may be regretful at some point when each of these items and even this item can be moved to a night meeting based on a motion to postpone to a date or time and time certain And if something comes up and there's a belief among the commission that the public should have a night meeting to hear that item, you can make your motion. So there there are other ways. I just want to point out and you're probably aware of it already, but I want to point out there are other ways to deal with it. Your motion, if there's a dissenting vote, the vote is already taken. So you can't move it to some

Well, then the next meeting, so then the second reading would have to be at a 6 pm meeting. My point is if it's something that everyone agrees to and is an an easy one, fine. But if it's something where it's more controversial or there's more feedback from the public, those are the ones where I think we want to be able to ensure we have it at a 6 p.m. meeting for the public to attend. Like this one for example. And my point, and I'm not disagreeing with you very respectfully, but you have the power to to do that and make that change. Well, not really. I mean we as a board do but we are generally three to three. So we we don't have the power to do that without some kind of compromise which doesn't happen here often.

I'm can't comment on that. I think if a reasonable motion is made everyone depending on what side of the fence you're on if it's reasonable it's reasonable for everybody and I think it would be would hope that it'd be given its due and proper considerations. Okay. So you're saying it would not the motion that I would like to make at some point is not possible. I don't it's not possible because you've already voted to make that determination first before you move it. No, you would at the f after the first reading. It would have to if if there are dissenting votes at the first reading, the second reading would be required to be at a 6 p.m. meeting. Even if the first reading was at a 6 p.m. meeting, yeah, I mean, or would be the opposite or what, you know, we'd have to discuss the details, but yes, probably at a 6 p.m. meeting.

You could do that. I'm just asking legally if you are requ if you can tie when the second reading is to dissenting votes at the first reading. That would be for any and all items on an agenda. It's a question legally, Mark, not your opinion on on on how it's going to operate in in practice. I'm asking if legally you can tie the second reading to the outcome of the first vote. I believe you legally can, but the the devil's in the details and I I understand that and I agree with you. I'm just asking a question. Thank you. Thank you. Very good. Well, I'd go ahead and I'd move that we postpone this till till our next uh next evening meeting. Second. Second.

Let's just I mean, we've got the power to do that. So, I I moved it and let's see. I had two seconds came out to postpone it till our next next evening meeting. Um so, there's a motion on the floor. But before we move to um discussion on that, I'd like to find out can I ask the applicant a question about about postponing this item? Mr. Medley, I can only assume that after waiting so long for this to get to this point. You're anxious to have it be done with, but is is another another uh another couple of weeks going to going to harm anything?

I would hope that you would vote today. We've been at this a long time. I understand that, Mr. Millie. My question is, is it going to damage the project in some way or way or fashion that you can explain to us today if we postpone this? I don't really have an explanation for that. I just hope you'll vote for it today. I hear you. Okay. Um, very good. So, discussion on the motion to postpone. Commissioner Fess,

I would I I think that given the I mean I'm I don't know exactly how many emails I or comments I've fielded about people who wanted to come and speak up on this agenda item today that could not make it due to work. So, I feel like there is just from my feedback from residents that I've heard from, I feel like it would be advantageous to us to at least give them the opportunity to speak um at a meeting and and be able to ask questions if they need to directly to the applicant. So, I I would support moving it to the 6 p.m. Thank you. Very good. I just well just like to point out that's the reason I made the motion to delay it so folks can have a chance to come forward and we have I made one in the beginning.

Moved and seconded. So, any further discussion? Let's go ahead and call the role. Mr. Fezic, yes. Commissioner Perkins, no. Mr. Seerson Eaton, yes. Mr. Smith, yes. Vice Mayor Forier, yes. Hard. Yes. Very good. Thank you. Item number six is a resolution. Resolution of the city commission the city of Palm Beach, Florida, accepting the donation of two automated external defibrillators, AEDs from the Frank Frankie Foundation to be placed at various city parks providing an effective date. So moved. Second.

Moved and second for discussion. Mr. Moore see if I follow directions. Good afternoon, mayor, vice mayor, commissioners. Scott Moore Parks and Recreation. This donation from the Frankie Foundation is more than equipment. It's peace of mind. By placing AEDs in our parks, we're making sure help is close by when it matters most. I hope this donation doesn't come as a shock, but it's one that truly helps save lives. At this time, I'd like to invite Dave McGur from the Frankie Foundation to join us and share a brief overview of the foundation and the important work they do.

Very good, Mr. McGur. Yep.

Good afternoon, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commissioners, Mr. Harrison, Greg, Mr. Burman. Good to see everybody. Um, my name is Dave McGur. Um, 13 Southeast 19th Avenue in Pomo Beach, Florida. I am also the chief engineering inspector here for the city of Pompo. I'm often asked what is the Frankie Foundation? Uh, everybody comes up to me the same question. Frankie Foundation was created and is dedicated to turning tragedy into triumph. A dear friend, a truly best friend of many, Frank Special was taken too far too soon in the prime of his life by heart disease. On February 15th, 2007, Frank was playing soccer at a facility at one of our sister cities when he suddenly went into cardiac arrest in the in the middle of a game. He was only 42 years old. At the time, the park did not have an AAD available. Unfortunately, that absence provided critical. So, in Frank's honor, we established the Frankie Foundation to try to prevent this from happening again. We carry out our mission in two key ways. First, we raise funds to purchase and place automated external defibrillators, AEDs, in parks and athletic fields throughout South Florida. An AED is the only effective treatment for most sudden cardiac arrests. Placing them near athletic fields and parks saves lives. Just curious, show of hands. Does anybody here know how to use or been trained on an AED? I figured all you guys. No, that's good. That's good. Well, luckily the AEDs, you know, they they once you are trained on them, you open them up, they it does a lot of the work for you. But if you ask any first

responder, they will tell you that CPR alone is not enough. Um, you need these units. The night Frank passed, several of the players on our team on the field were trained first responders. Our goalkeeper was a Deerfield Beach firefighter. We had a BSO deputy also on our team. The team we were playing that night had a PMPO Beach lifeguard uh in their goal. Um and while CPR is is critical and can save lives, survival rates are significantly higher when an AED is available and used quickly. To date, the foundation has donated 72 AEDs with two AEDs being donated tonight that the city of Pompa will now be receiving a total of 10 from our foundation. Um, our second key mission of the foundation proudly offers scholarships each year to local high school student athletes who embody Frank's selfless spirit. These students who give back, look out for others, and live with heart. To date, we have a awarded 66 scholarships, soon to be 67.

That was for you. Um, each in the amount of $1,000. So, you guys can do the math. We began serving PMPO Beach High School as our our first local school and then we've expanded it out throughout the committee to to to many community to many schools. Um, through these efforts, we honor Frank's legacy by protecting lives today and investing in the leaders of tomorrow. Frankly, Frankie truly lived his life to its fullest. He was born in Long Island, just a town away from where I was born. Um, he later moved with his family to Pompo. Um, he graduated Pompo Beach High School, class of 82. He's a very gifted athlete. um coached youth baseball and soccer. Him and I were coaches together forever. Um I actually met Frank when I was a freshman at Pompino High and the alumni soccer guys always came down and supported us and you know coming to all our games. The foundation is based here in Pompo. Um the idea and mission came from Mike Goodrich, a former classmate of Franks and he was our very first board member. Um, everyone on the board is also locally here from Pompo, graduated from school, uh, from Jason Chesh, Dr. Jason Cheshire, who's not here, Scott Henredi, um, Chris Dudley, all graduated from Elely, myself included. Um, Carolyn grew up in Pompo as well, and Justina, our is like our super volunteer who we now made a board member. Um, we raised funds through several community events, including our annual bowling fundraiser, typically held in mid to late September. In 2013, we donated an AED to Manor

Lanes, where we hold our event. Um, the staff was trained and then just three months later, someone collapsed from cardiac arrest. The AED was located right by where that you get your shoes, your bowling shoes, and was used immediately. the AED saved his life. So, our foundation has one life saved. We also volunteer at the Tortuga Music Festival um operating a beverage booth and we're always looking for volunteers. That's Justina's baby. She runs that. Um we also have an upcoming event. It's called Dine to Donate February 4th from 6:00 to 10:00 at Dangerous Minds Brewery. They do an event to local charities. the first Wednesday of every month. So, it's it's an easy way to come up support a charity. Um there's they do it every month with different charities. So, I could go on and on about Frank. He had the biggest heart and in the end it was his heart that let him down. We hope these two ads never get used but in the event they will be there. Thank you.

Very good. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Yes.

Have nothing further unless you have questions. Nothing further. Absolutely. That says it all and that's quite enough. Thank Thank you to the foundation. Picture. Pardon me. We have the AEDs here. Can we come up there and get a picture? Certainly. Absolutely. Well, let's wait till we finish the item, though.

I I guess I I can't add something. What we put up on the screen is um new. This isn't what they're donating, but it's new AED standalone machines that were able to put in parks. And this past budget year, we were able to purchase five of these machines. The AEDs that they have here will go in two of those five, but we were able to purchase five of them and put one in each one of your districts. So, we have five right now. You'll see it in the budget coming up soon for more to add to our parks as well. So, right now, we have five of them. Um, they're self-contained. If you open them up, it takes a picture, a selfie of whoever opens them up. It also calls 911 for us. So 911 and the whole emergency action plan is is immediately set in motion and we're able to come and help our park rangers know about it and everyone else. So these are new AEDs you'll see in your parks. Each of you have one right now.

Excellent. Very nice. This is a public hearing. Is there any input from the public on this item? input closed. Commission discussion. Vice Mayor,

uh, I just want to say this one hits really close to home for me. So, thank you so much for your work on getting these, uh, standalone safety cabinets in our parks and for the work that Frankie Foundation has done to get these AEDs out in the community. My father passed away when he was my age um, from a cardiac arhythmia due to overexertion. And this was long before AEDs were so prevalent. There was no AED in the hotel where he was at. And it took too long for um a response. So you've already saved a life and you've saved a family and you you know there's little boys and girls out there who are going to have their parents as a result of the work you're doing. So thank you very much.

You're here. I I would I would add to that also. Thank you so much. Throughout the years I've known the Frankie Foundation, you guys have been doing it and you know sometimes people look at you and say, "Well, you're just a bunch of people that go bowling." But but no, I mean it's you save lives and that's there's that's priceless. Um it's it's truly remarkable. Thank you so much for the commissioner. Commissioner Perkins and Commissioner Fess.

Yes. Thank you, Mayor. Um this is certainly a lifesaving tool and um we really appreciate it. We thank you for the donation. Um, I would think with the um, search team years ago, I think in the 90s when I took the class and finished the search team, we didn't have anything like this in place. So maybe this is something we can insert now with the search team, so they will know exactly um, how to work it, how to use it. I mean, it's it really is kind of self-explanatory, but still it's good to know. Um, but but thank you so much. We really appreciate it. So needed, especially in our parks. We really appreciate it. Thank you. Very good, Commissioner Fess.

Thank you. Uh, yeah, I want to just reiterate everything and Vice Mayor, you know, thanks for making us all cry up here also, but just heartfelt truly, but you know, you think about technology and how far it's come and and how we, you know, we wear devices on our wrists and our fingers to help detect, you know, any sort of arhythmia or anything crazy. And we're all active and and in South Florida and, you know, not that age is a factor necessarily. Uh, but thank you so much for this donation. This is amazing. and and we I would love to help continue to support your foundation and and get involved and help spread the word. Um, speaking to the to the learning how to use one, um, I might suggest that because we have this available to us and we have, um, an amazing strategic marketing team with a a video crew that's back there that never gets any credit that um, we may be maybe we can have a a video or something through social media that we can help to educate if you would like to know, you know, in an emergency this is how these these work. This is what happens. just like you just spoke today also that this will dial 911, here's what you do, etc. to help walk people through this. Hopefully, they'll never have to use it, but just in case, maybe it'll be an added few seconds of safety. Thank you again for everything.

We we are working together on on doing an unveiling where it will do a full demonstration and getting it on video and everything else and we we'll be able to put that out. You guys are doing that. Very good. Commission and I and and Justina hit me up for uh for volunteer stuff. Commissioner Seagerson Eaten. Yes. I also want to thank you guys very very much um for your citizenship, for your dedication, for your efforts, for your service and um for your caring. So really appreciate it. Thank you.

Very good. Um nothing further. Let's go ahead and call the role so we can take a picture. want to call the role. Commissioner Fezic, yes. Commissioner Perkins, yes. Commissioner Seagerson Eaton. Yes. Commissioner Smith. Yes. As Fonier, yes. Harden.

Yes. Okay, let's just take a two-minute break for a quick photo. Thank you Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Well, don't give it to me. Thanks for uh reaching out to me. I appreciate No one else says hi to me. Do I look sick? I mean, I know you can't. That's right. Yeah, you said No, no, no. I said two minutes. So, two minutes is almost up. So, yeah, let's reconvene the meeting now. There we're back in order even though the Yeah, the ones thing stayed up. Okay, very good. Thank you for that. All right, this uh move move on to item number seven is a resolution. Resolution of the city commission of the city of PMPO Beach, Florida, approving and authorizing the proper city officials to execute an agreement for uniform collection of non-advalum special assessments between the city of PMPO Beach and the Broward County Tax Collector providing an effective date.

So moved. Second moved and second for discussion. Mr. Waters.

Good afternoon, mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission. Joshua Waters, the city's budget director. The item before you is the approval of an agreement between the city and the Broward County tax collector for the collection of the city's non-advalorum fire assessment fee on the annual tax bill. As a result of voter approved constitutional and county charter changes, Broward County now has an elected tax collector who has assumed responsibility for tax bill collections that were previously handled by the county government. Under state law, any municipality that wishes to place a non-advalorum assessment on the tax bill must enter into a formal agreement with the tax collector. This agreement allows the tax collector to collect and remit the city's fire assessment fees and to recover actual costs of collection subject to statutory limits. Staff work very closely with the tax collector's office and other Broward County municipalities to ensure this agreement is clear, consistent, and uniformly applied. This included a meeting that the uh vice mayor coordinated with the tax collector herself and city staff. And I also want to thank that city attorney who's been working with me very closely on this issue for the past several months. With that, uh, staff recommends approval of the resolution.

Very good. Thank you for that. This is a public hearing. Is there any input from the public on this item?

Please come forward. Just name and address for the record. My birth name is Thomas Jerry Thibo Jr. I'm from Kansas City, Missouri. Um, but I've been uh nature is what I go by. That's what everybody knows most people know me as. And um the the people that were talking before about the heart thing. Okay. I have personal in um experience with using the nerve endings. I haven't met one professional yet that knows what the nerve endings are for. The main information in pain what's needed to be made to fix this problem. If you don't have it pulled in nervous system, the glands over recognition, they don't make it. It's like how do you get your friend, your relative, your your brother, sister, somebody what they need, if you don't know what they need. You have to know what they need. Same with the body's glands and organs. If they don't have that information of what needs to be made to fix whatever problem has, they don't make it. They have to have that information. The nerve ending is way to get the information to them. The nerve ending for the heart is right there,

right there on the right hand. Right hand goes left side of the body, left hand goes right side of the body. That's the heart right there by pinky knuckle. Very good, sir, but I I hate to cut you off now, but we're on the next item that we're You didn't have com public comment on that item. She said you had a public comment before the item had. But how can you have it before the item? After the item speaks, that's when you should have the public comment. So that's reason I'm do I waiting for the public comment after that item, but you had none. She said she had it they had it before the item. So how can you do that with with with the item not being talked about? Very good. Thank you, sir. I appreciate it, though. So I hope you correct that.

Like I said, if anybody has a heart problem with their heart, their body can make what's needed. Massage that area. You get the information gland or they make what's needed. Then you massage the heart. Increase blood flow increase positive specific enzymes and nutrients. The glands or made you heal your own heart like that. Okay. I am the owner of the plantation. March the 2020 247 North the epicenter. Second mutation. It gave me energy connection. All energy everything. It exists. I own it. Absolute fact. Thank you, sir. If y'all don't want to work with me, mankind is going to be oblivated from existence. That's why this co did this. Thank you, sir. Virus is made for that. Thank you. Going to put all mankind to sleep forever. Very good. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. I'm telling you. Okay.

Arch 20. Check check and respect what's been happening. Thank you. I'm going to have I'm going to have to cut you off, sir. I got 41. I got 42. No, no, no. You're you're you're on the wrong item. That's that's the thing. Thank you for your input, though. Appreciate it. But yeah, item the item of mankind doesn't matter. I'm sorry. Item of mankind doesn't matter. Humanity. Sir, we're on an item dealing with a budget issue here. I'm sorry. I'm going to ask you to go ahead and Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you, sir. Further further input from the public. Seeing none, public input closed. Commission discussion, questions, concerns. Vice Mayor,

sorry, I had one quick question on this. uh have I know when we last spoke about this uh we learned a lot and had some back and forth and and I had asked what other cities have signed this and I think at that time maybe Fort Lauderdale had passed something but a lot of other cities hadn't. Are more cities passing these this agreement at this point? Correct. We got the uh the final draft agreement that the cities and the tax collector agreed upon in December. Unfortunately, it was too late to get on to the December agenda which is why we're bringing it to you now. Fort Lauderdale Dilla um was the first one who passed theirs back in October. Other cities, it's my understanding, but I'll defer to Mr. Burman who's had communication with other city attorneys are taking this up now.

With your permission, Mr. Burman? Yes, we have a at our monthly meeting with all city attorneys and county attorney's office last week and other cities are now starting to put this on their agenda. This is the final form of the agreement. Uh it took a little while to get things ironed out. It is a new process, right? And that's why I asked that question because I know there was it's a new process, a new office of the tax collector and it's a a new bit of money that we're we're losing here that we have to pay to have our taxes collected. So, I wanted to make sure that all the other cities were similarly on on board with this.

We had some disagreements in terms of the interpretation of what could and could not be. It's been resolved to the extent we can at this point. So, we're ready to move ahead. Okay. And is there still any work being undertaken to determine if we should be getting rid of like a taxing district and rolling things into the general fund?

So, we have done some research uh into the EMS taxing district. It was initially enacted back in 1975 uh by an ordinance which was uh then approved via referendum by the voters. So to I'll defer to Mr. Burman, but to repeal that law, you would have to go back to referendum. But we are researching different ways of adjusting the tax rates between the EMS taxing district and the general operating tax district to perhaps avoid paying the commission or large portion of the commission. Okay. So the tax district was created by referendum but the 0.5 mil like that could what if that went to zero? That probably wasn't set via referendum.

Correct. I believe I mean when I when I read the when I read the ordinance earlier today it set the it set the limit of the uh of the tax rate at 0.5 mills. Okay. So if that went to zero the tax district can still stay in existence without getting uh it on a ballot but we could just defund it essentially.

Yes. To and to be clear if something is created by referendum uh it needs to be removed by referendum. There was an attempt to do that a few years after it started. It did not pass. But we could move everything and I don't want to speak for the budget director, but I think we can move those costs and expensive potentially through the budget, leave this in place, maybe uh tax zero, right through the because again, we don't know what's going to happen in the next we may want this at some point. We may not want to get rid of it depending what's going to happen in Tallahass.

Understood. We have uncertainty from Tallahassee with property taxes and and other things and we would have to put on a ballot and try and explain that anyway. So, as long as we have the flexibility to potentially leave it in existence but defund it for the the meantime, that would work. Thank you. Very good. For the commission discussion, Commissioner Fessic. Hello. I just had one quick question related to the term of this. So, the term it's just this is a one-year term.

So, it's it's renewable year year to year. So, it's um it's one-year term, but it's renews automatically every year until it's canceled. It's the similar agreement exists with the Broward County Property Appraiser where it's also they they do charge us an annual administrative fee. It's smaller than this. Um but we do have an agreement with them that is a year agreement that just renews every year. Right. And is there is there a cap on this or is there something where this could let's say just go for instance you know 5% higher. or now it's 5% or now it's 4% based on state law limits it to 2% of cost collected of revenue collected and then at the end of the year if the costs are actually lower than what was collected then the tax collector has to remit that to the cities on a prorit basis thank you very much

I thought he was going to ask me I'm sorry very good further commission discussion seeing none let's go and call the role yes Perkins yes Seagerson eaten yes Smith yes Vice Mayor Pier Yes. Yes. Item eight is a resolution. Resolution of the city commission the city of Papa Beach, Florida, approving and authorizing the proper city officials to execute a first amendment to the state revolving loan agreement DW624A0 between the city of Palm Beach and the state of Florida Department of Environmental Protection providing an effective date. So moved. Second. Moved and second for discussion. Miss.

Okay. Okay. The item before you is a request to execute amendment one to the FD state revolving fund loan agreement DW0624A0 extending the project completion date from January 15, 2026 to April 15, 2027. The loan was originally approved under resolution 2023-200 in the amount of 9.595 million with 100% principal loan forgiveness for the planning and design activities related to the water facilities planned emerging contaminant emerging contaminant upgrades to comply with the PAS regulation which goes into effect in 2029. The extension is necessary due to delays in the South Florida Water Management District peritting process what which affects our raw water allocation and consequently the design criteria for phase two of the plan. The amendment does not change the loan amount or the fiscal impact and supports the city's strategic and comprehensive plan for reliable sustainable portable water infrastructure.

Very good. Thank you for that. Just for the record, uh, identify yourself. Hi, Renuka Muhammad, utilities director. Very good. Thank you for that. This is a public hearing. Is there any input from the public on this item? Seeing none, public input closed. Commission discussion. Vice Mayor. Thank you, mayor. Uh just a quick question about the timing here. So, the completion date is was supposed to be two days from now. So, yes, this came to our attention. Yes. Okay. So, why are we just seeing this? Is it Did we just noticed it or it it just came up from Yes. the state and from our consultant. Got it. So there is definitely an urgency to this. And is the April who picked the April 15th, 2027 date? Is that

uh we did that with our consultant. It was an agreement between the consultant and the state to put it off to the 27th. Do we think that's sufficient time to get the permitting issues?

So this affects phase two. So phase one is already in process. It's under design and that phase phase one takes us to the 20 MGD. So we have 10 MGD right now and the other 10 MGD under phase one will get us to the 20 MGD. The phase two is the proposed additional 10 MGD. Now what we don't know is what we're going to move towards what alternative. So I we do not believe the district is going to give us an extra 10 MGD biscane allocation. So we have to determine what that additional treatment may look like. Is it going to look Florida and aquifer and reverse osmosis? We don't know yet. So once we get to that point from the district letting us know what they're going to allocate us, um then we could determine from there what alternative technology and source water we're going to need.

Okay. So it sounds like do we know when we will get that directive or direction from the district? Not at this point. The application has been submitted for a modification. So we are we are pending with them. Okay. So, it's possible we will need to extend this again if we we may have to. So, it all depends on the district um what again what the allocation is going to be and what the directive is going to be again um based on the comp plan the population projections. Right now there's lots of unknowns out there. Okay. But we do have sufficient under phase one to provide for the next five 10 years. Okay.

So, we have the time we have the runway here to to do this. But correct. So I always wonder when we do this like is it worth putting giving ourselves enough time so we don't have to keep coming back but so it depends on FDP and where they where their comfort level is. So as we make the argument um to extend this deadline depending on what is going on with the permitting process. Yes. Okay. We might see you again in a year. Okay. Thank you. We'll definitely see you again on this side. Yes, definitely. Thank you. Very good. Further commission discussion.

Mayor Commissioner Secret. Yeah, my question was have we chosen a method for the the uh the filtering process and from I think what I've heard we have not there is not so phase phase one is definitely nanoiltration so we have 10 mgd right now of nanopiltration using the biscane aquifer

the phase one for the additional 10 mgd so we're discontinuing lime softening phase one we will go into nanopiltration using the current allocation so It's phase two is is the unknown for us. Um because phase two when you talk about alternative technology gets very expensive. So we want to be very careful and and thoughtful in how we choose that technology.

Yes. Yes. Um and interesting fact I will see you on Friday I'm sure at the attack meeting. Interesting fact, um, these forever carbons, these pas, I call them phauas, uh, at a degree of 12,000 degrees Fahrenheit, those carbon molecules will break down and become their natural carbon element and and essentially be able to be uh, put put back naturally into the environment. And I um I called Russ Ketchum and I said, "Russ, what what does a uh typical garbage incinerator incinerator burn at?" He said it burns at 2,000 degrees. So we essentially

you have to incinerate for beasts. Yes. Um so just interesting is we're as being on the water advisory board for the county and and learning a great deal about these these things in our environment which are really everywhere. uh how to get rid of them, you know, uh what to do, you know, with them uh uh is is really been an interesting, but I know with technology uh will come and uh and everyone's going to have to get rid of them. So, we will see what we will do. But thank you, Reuka. Thank you. Very good, Commissioner Fess.

Thank you. Um I share some of the concerns. I I wanted to first thank you for the the amazing tour of the facilities and congratulate you guys again on your um many awards. The work that you are doing and I think the challenges I know we're going to be seeing a lot of you I think in the coming few years just simply because some of the challenges that you shared with some of these these new rules regulations coming down and cities and municipalities being forced to deal with them. Um I I applaud you for your efforts and your patience level and um and And I want to say that um this this if you need more time I think in an effort to try to make things work, we can always give you give you a better runway and uh then we can overd deliver some point. Thank you.

Absolutely. I appreciate that. I'm sure I'll be working with administration um to bring you at some point up to date with the projects and where we are um in the very near future. Very good. Further commission discussion? Seeing none, let's go ahead and call the role. Commissioner Fez. Yes. Commissioner Perkins. Yes. Commissioner Seagerson eaten. Yes. Commissioner Smith. Yes. Forier. Yes. Harden. Yes. It's now 3:00. Let's take a 10-minute recess.

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Call this meeting back to order. PMPA Beach City Commission meeting. Item number nine is the second reading of an ordinance. An ordinance of the city commission of the city of Palm Beach, Florida, approving and authorizing the proper city officials to execute an agreement for transportation services pointtooint between the city of PMPA beach and circuit transit inc to provide microtransit transportation services providing for severability providing an effective date. So moved. Second. Moved and second for discussion once again. Oh hello. Hi. I was just going to say Mr. Lance went ahead. Good afternoon, mayor, vice mayor, commission. Mayorbell Rodriguez, parking operations coordinator. This is the second reading of this item with no changes.

Very good. Thank you for that. This is a public hearing. Is there any input from the public on this item? Seeing none, public input closed. Commission discussion. Seeing none, let's call the role. Commissioner Fez, yes. Commissioner Perkins, yes. Commissioner Seerson Eaton, yes. Commissioner Smith, yes. Vice Mayor Fornier, yes. Hart. Yes. We are on a roll. Item 10 is a second reading of an ordinance.

An ordinance of the city commission of the city of Pmplo Beach, Florida amending chapter 155 zoning code of the PMP beach code of ordinances by amending section 155.3203 single family residence 2 RS2. Section 155.3208 multifamily residence 7 RM7. Section 155.3209 multiple family residence 12 RM12 Section 155.3210 multiple family residence 20 RM20 section 155.3211 multiple family residence 30 RM30 section 155.3212 multif family residence 45 RM45 section 155.3302 limited business B1 section 155.3303 Community business B2 section 155.3304 General Business B3 section 155.3305 Heavy Business B4 section 155.3306 marine business M1 and section 155.3501 transit oriented to modify building height and setback measurements by amending section 155.9401 measurement and part five terms and uses defined to further clarify measurement references for building height, providing preservability, providing an effective date.

So moved. Second. Moved and second for discussion. Mr. Williams. Hi, good afternoon. Max Williams, principal planner development services. Um, this is uh well technically the third reading of this ordinance, but due to an advertising mishap, we we have to legally put this back on the agenda for second reading or for a an advertised reading. Um, there have been no changes since the first reading and and I'm available for questions. Very good. Thank you for that. This is a public hearing. Is there any input from the public on this item? Seeing none, public input closed. Commission discussion, questions. Let's go ahead and call the roll. Mr. Fezic, yes. Commissioner Perkins, yes. Commissioner Seersonen eaten. Yes. Commissioner Smith. Yes. Vice Mayor Fornier. Yes. Harden.

Yes. Item 11 is a second reading of an ordinance. An ordinance of the city commissioner of the city of PMPO Beach, Florida, amending chapter 155, zoning code of the PMP beach code of ordinances by amending section 155.5302 fences and walls to modify fence height measurements providing preservability providing an effective date. So moved. Second. Moved and second for discussion. Once again, Mr. Williams. Hi, good afternoon. Max Williams, principal planner for development services. Um, this is the second reading of this ordinance. There have been no changes since the first reading and I am available for questions. Very good. Thank you for that. This is a public hearing. Is there any input on from the public on this item? Please come forward. Just name and address for the record.

Good afternoon. Ted Bone with the presidency construction 920 uh southwest second place in PMPO. Uh not adopting this amendment uh will uh be it amended in the language in this fence uh would unfairly penalize new homes that were required by code to raise finished floor and lot grades uh for flood compliance and resiliency. The homeowners are not choosing to elevate these properties. They're required to do so by mandate from FEMA state code and city process. Enforcing fence heights uh that would be using neighboring lower grades would effectively give these clients uh only a four to five foot fence, not the full six-foot fence that is intended and therefore creates a two-tier system uh which not for new construction and would offer fewer property rights uh for the existing than the existing homes. Uh this would also present a situation where it would not give the new homeowner a minimum standard for security. Uh six-foot fence is the standard uh for providing a private a privacy and safety barrier. And uh by not putting this language in and allowing it to be measured from the neighboring side lower will not give secure fence uh to the to the clients to the new uh to the new properties. The language that's really involved is whether you should be adding retaining wall to a six-foot fence. And a retaining wall is not a fence. It is not a wall. It is designed uh is by engineering necessary for flood mitigation, soil stand uh stabilization, uh drainage compliance and building safety. This is a contemporary condition. If you think about it, over the long haul, everybody will ultimately have to raise their property. So, by only allowing for a 4-foot fence now to a new build, you're causing problems down the line.

There's been a long-standing city precedent that has allowed and approved fences to be topped upon retaining walls. Six foot has always been the standard. We've built many a home and six foot on top of a twoft retaining wall has been the existence everywhere. So this is just clarifying the language to make sure that it is approved and has been standard. Issued permits under this interpretation have been without objection for years. Uh so changing this uh not changing this would actually undermine uh the trust and permitting process, create confusion and financial harm uh and potentially put the city open to uh an arbitrary uh concern of exist of the um inconsistent enforcement. So, uh, in conclusion, uh, new construction should not be punished for complying with flood and building codes. Homeowners who have elevated their property as required should enjoy the same rights, uh, privacy, and protection as their neighbors. The city has allowed the standard for years and has continued to be fair, consistent, and forward thinking.

Very good. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Further input from the public? Seeing none, public input closed. Commission discussion, questions, concerns. Commissioner Seagerson Eaton.

Yeah. Um, thank you, Mayor. I'm just going to reiterate some of the points I made last time, and I think that it's going to be the waterway properties that do suffer. And while it is in fact true that the first finished floor needs to be lay uh raised to the level required by FEMA, it does not require dirt to do to achieve that. Um, I think the neighboring properties are going to be adversely affected by, hey, let's just bring in four feet of dirt and surround it with a retaining wall. Um, and they're going to be built into a hole essentially. And again, it's the waterway properties that are going to suffer. We've we've eliminated the site visibility triangle, so there's no right to a view. Um, and we're now allowing six foot fence all the way out to the water. put six foot fence on top of a 4 foot retaining wall and I think it's adversely affects the adjacent property diminishes their value quality of life and all of that and I I've I've been sort of putting that out there of the unintended consequences some of these these u changes that have been made and I'm going to continue to put it out there could been I think there should have been some attention paid to the adjacent properties and their equity, their parody. Um so and that's that's all I say. I'm not going to support this. I didn't support it last time. Uh but it didn't make any difference, but I just want to put that on the record. Thank you.

Very good. Thank you. Further commission discussion? Seeing none, let's go ahead and call the role. Fez it. Yes, Perkins. Yes. Commissioner Seigusen Eaton. No. Commissioner Smith. Yes. Vice Mayor Pornier. Yes. Hart. Yes. Item 12 is a second reading of an ordinance. An ordinance that the city could I'm sorry. No, M. Hold on, Mr. B. M. Mr. Fess.

Yes. Point of order. Um, so before we uh take up any of the the air park related items, I just want to raise a threshold procedural objection uh that applies to all three of them. Uh the items that are that are being presented are separate actions and in reality they're actually a coordinated sequence which we discussed before in February. Um the county adoption materials in the backup for the ESL amendment state that the city of PMPO Beach recommended approval at a time when this commission had not taken final action and that's a material inaccuracy for the record and county and state bodies relied on it. So, nope. So, proceeding today would create a cascading reliance on a defective predicate. And so, once we advance downstream land use and zoning actions on top of a defective predicate, the city's process then becomes vulnerable. Um, so I I'm not making any sort of, you know, accusations of or ethics accusations. It's just basically making sure that we're following procedural uh procedural guidelines.

Um, very good, Mr. I'm making a motion real I'm not done yet. Still the floor. Let's Yes. So that's this is all wrapped up into one. It's all wrapped up in one. Okay. Trying to get through as fast as I can because everybody wants to roll. Um so this is just about protecting the city and ensuring our actions can withstand scrutiny long term. Okay. Let's go ahead and let's go ahead and make a motion. Make a motion. I'm I'm getting if you would stop interrupting me, I will I will make the motion. Thank you. I will. So I have a question for Mr. Burman. Um M Mr. Mr. Burman, for the record, does a first reading constitute a governing body recommendation under chapter 163 or Broward next procedures? It's just a yes or no. I have no idea. Okay, I can answer that.

Okay, it's a yes or no question. So, it is approval on a transmitt. Transmittal hearings are the first reading and adoption hearings are the second reading. Under chapter 163, you have to have an approval of the first reading in order to transmit the ordinance to the county commission to do their part and to the state to do their part. So it's very clearly written in chapter 163. It's a trans. So you're saying a transmitt, but it would not constitute a formal a formal approval. Approval is not until the adoption hearing, which is the second reading. The transmittal is first reading. If you get a no on the transmittal, you're done. You can't transmit it to anybody. Right.

So that is absolutely correct. Both myself and the county have 40 years plus experience with this growth management law. We know how to do the process. Right. And I'm not and I'm not questioning anybody's experience level. I just So if county documents require represented a city recommendation before a final action was taken. The representation was inaccurate at the time that it was relied upon by the county. Incorrect. Not saying a transmitt. The transmitt hearing is first reading. We don't get to send it to the county if we don't get a yes on transmitt. We got a 51 vote. Okay. So, that m that matters because we have three air park items that are related and I I'd like a I'd like to have a little bit more of a a backup or a or a city attorney. Commission it's just been explained to you that it's proper procedure. If

you could stop interrupting me, I would appreciate it. So that takes care of your I move to remove all air park related agenda items from today's cascading procedural defects arising from material inaccurate representations of city commission action relied upon by county and state agencies and if that is not done I would like a written I would like a written no uh explanation from our city attorney prior to moving forward. Well mayor I have no legal concerns as to the process that's followed in this procedure. Sorry, your your your point of order is over overruled. Thank you. Item 12 is a second reading of an ordinance.

An ordinance of the city commission of the city of Palpato Beach, Florida, adopting a comprehensive plan map amendment for a 46.4 4acre site located on the northwest corner of the PMPA Beach Air Park providing for a determination that a local planning agency hearing was held on January 22nd, 2025 providing that a transmitt and adoption public hearing will be held providing for severability providing for conflicts providing an effective date. So moved. Second. Moved and second for discussion. Miss Dolan.

Thank you mayor commission. second reading of our airport land use plan amendment and our environmentally sensitive lands map amendment. What we're going to do is one presentation that pertains to both items 12 and 13. So after item uh 12, we'll do the presentation for both. Then Mark will read the uh title for item 13. We will incorporate the presentation by reference and go on with our votes. Okay. So, what we're requesting in this land use plan amendment is to change the corner parcel at the north end of runway 15 from a uh open space recreation land use category to transportation. It's about 46.4 acres and the county did unanimously approve this amendment and it's now shown as transportation on the county's land use map that occurred on September 16th, 2025. The next amendment is to the environmentally sensitive lands map. These four areas on the environmentally sensitive lands map need to be taken off the airport as this is a aviation deed restricted property. It is not eligible for environmentally sensitive land designations. The county unanimously approved the amendment to the environmentally sensitive lands map on December 9th, 2025. That map has now been changed. The reason the county unanimously approved all these requests is this FAA letter which clearly points out why we cannot have environmentally sensitive lands on the air park. Key points in this letter. One, the FAA opposes any incumbrance on airport property for ecological or conservation purposes. Number two, the deed restrictions from the 1947 transfer to the city under the surplus property act requires the property to be used for aviation and aviation support purposes only. Number three, accepting federal grants for aviation development comes with contractually obligated grant assurances and designating lands on the air park as environmentally sensitive land conflict

with these grant assurances. Number four, land use that promotes the attraction of wildlife as a hazard to air navigation and by the way a hazard to the wildlife. The city has a responsibility to pre prevent potential hazards. Both the airport uh land use map and the airport property map that are adopted by the FAA show the areas that are still under the um deed restrictions. The area in color on the airport land use map is still deed restricted for aviation use. The areas outside on the property map that show the colors, those are the areas that have been released from those deed restrictions. All the white areas still deed restricted for aviation use only. So, Broward County added some conditions of approval on our uh approval for this these two amendments. Number one, go for tortoise survey no more than 90 days prior to any construction or clearing and the relocation of gopher tortoise burrow subject to the Florida Wildlife Commission permitting. I might also add that we're subject to the National Environmental League Policy Act for everything we do on the airport because it is a federal facility. So, it's a much more stringent process than just the state regulations. Number two, tree plantings along the city's multi-purpose path on Northeast Fifth Avenue and Northeast 10th Street. And we're also going to create uh mitigation receiving area along Copen's as well. So, the next agenda item where we talk about the zoning, that's where we're creating 100 ft buffers all the way around the air park along all the roads so that the trees can be mitigated in that area along our multi-purpose path. Number three, the detailed plant survey to be taken prior to any land clearing as well as the city assisting Broward County or similar staff with the collection of native seeds and plant clippings from rare and endangered plants on these parcels. Uh that's already been planned. The uh plant specialists are going to come out throughout the year when it's best for those particular plants to so they can get their seeds um and their

cutings for any plants that they want to transplant into these existing sandpine preserves which we already have in the city. We have 58 acres of sandpine preserve already, 34 in the Highland Scrub Preserve and 24 in the Crystal Lake Preserve. These have been um preserved by the county with a uh 1989 bond issue. They've been maintained ever since. So if any of these plants are worthy of being transplanted, that's where they'll go. So staff's recommendation on this, we recommend approval to adopt the change to the land use designation of the subject parcel to transportation and to acknowledge the removal of all parcels of land on the air park from the county's environmentally sensitive lands map to ensure number one, compliance with the 1947 surplus act deed restriction requiring the property be used for aviation and aviation support purposes only. compliance with the contractually obligated grant assurances associated with past, present, and future federal airport grants. And three, compliance with the requirement to avoid wildlife and height visibility hazards to aviation operations. That concludes my presentation and I'm happy to answer any questions.

Very good. Thank you for that. This is a public hearing. Is there any input from the public on this item? Please come forward. Just name and address for the record. Carol Eisman, 4020 West Palm Air Drive. Um, I have a couple of questions of staff. Um, first of all, where um, who's going to take charge of moving the wildlife that is there now? We'll we'll we'll hire consultants to do that.

You Okay. Um, I guess my concern is that every time I look around and when there's some great green space and a place for our youth, our children to maybe learn something, to experience something, the next thing you look and it becomes concrete. Um, does the airport in all this time that it's been functioning there, um, been hampered greatly? Have we had any accidents? Has, what has happened that has pushed for this change to come about? Um, I haven't seen anything. Um, why should we give this up? Why should we exchange this beautiful area that we have for more concrete? Is there a real need? I haven't seen it in anything I read. I'm very perturbed by it. Um, and I really feel funny because the most people would have never called me an environmentalist. And yet I feel like an environmentalist standing here because I'm getting so tired of seeing all the building that we have, apartments, everything with no greenery around it. Everything is concrete. And so we have this small area in my opinion of greenery that's not bothering anybody. Doesn't seem to be hampering anything from happening at this airport. and all of a sudden greed has come along and let's make this more air parky and we're going to take all of this wild um greenery and this area and these plants

and so I am concerned as a resident I moved here to Pompo and I chose Pompeno seven years ago rather than Fort Lauderdale because we were more green and what I'm seeing is all the green becoming concrete and that disturbs me and I would encourage the commission to vote no on this.

Very good. Thank you. Further input from the public, please come forward. Marilyn D. Martini, 1110 Northeast 27th Avenue, PMPO Beach. Um the air park has been you know designated through the deed restrictions since the 40s as aviation space. We understand that it's the growth of the airport that has concerned the neighborhoods surrounding it. We've been very clear with the commission about our concerns about this. We're welcoming the trade school. We think it's a good use because it's not a flight school, which is our problem with the air park. Um, but my question is, how do you just all of a sudden non-desate an environmental space? There is wildlife there. There is greenery that's worth and why are we going to transplant plants or take seeds and put them somewhere else where we have green space there? If there are invasive species, they can be cleared out. But don't tell me that there, like they said at the airport advisory meeting last earlier this month, that there's no wildlife there that needs to be protected. Don't tell me that right next to the airport that there's not tortoises and owls and other kinds of wildlife that need protection. Why are we giving up green space like the other woman said to house a school? Pompo Aviation has built tons of new hangers. Why can't this school be housed on places that are already paved and already aviation use? Why are we giving up some Why are we changing zoning from what it has already been established as environmental and making that non-environmental? Making that decision

doesn't change the character of the property. You can say it's whatever you want. It's it's aviation use because it's deed. It's still green space that's environmental and should be preserved and likewise we encourage the commission to vote against this. There are other ways of accommodating the trade school.

Very good. Thank you. Next speaker and Bosworth 4015 West Palm Drive. Just a quick comment. The last time I spoke on this item was not at commission. It was at planning and zoning. And the feedback that I got was that if I wanted to challenge this kind of conversation that I needed to come with an attorney or a professional and it's really kind of unnerving to a member of the general public to be told that by people making decisions. I should not have to hire an attorney as a private citizen to have a discussion with my city. This is a a thorny issue and I I really get it. I went to an FXE meeting where they were having a similar discussion about required runway maintenance and lengthening for certain things and people really didn't understand the nature of the thing. So I get it that there this exists but there is a deeper conversation here that's not really being had because people aren't, you know, I'm not able to come with an attorney to have this debate. And I think what Commissioner Fezzic was trying to do was bring a legal opinion into it about how we've done all this. But it's just a word about this kind of land. When you start, there's so many projects going on around the city and when we're looking at moving something that's kind of a kind of secret treasure trove of some nature when we see all this other building in other spaces. It makes people uncomfortable and you haven't made the public comfortable with what you're trying to do there yet. So, I think you

need to do a better job on that. And maybe it starts at messaging. Um, maybe it starts at the way you talk to each other about it. I'm not really sure, but I think we're we're not there yet. Thank you. Very good. Thank you. Further input from the public.

Good afternoon and happy new year. I am Pastor Dr. Sherry Abram of exit 36. Now I am a fortitude veteran teacher resident since 2000 in Pompo Beach. It is amazing to me that we have a wellestablished elite gentleman in our audience. Mr. Bington. It amazes me that we are not concerned about all people learning what they need to learn, what they choose to learn if accepted in the school about aviation mechanics. Now, I did my research and I found out in Florida there's not one not one aviation school that's owned by a person that looks like me. And when I know that I have worked, I have students that I taught that are willing and ready to attend this aviation mechanical school. Now, I thank you, Allison, for your pilot license. That's outstanding. That's something that I wouldn't even think about. I love flying, but I'll leave it to you pilots. So, I would hope that we care more about our educational learning to expand it than our animals that will also live. There is a place for them because I

think about how we at the CRA PMPO Beach, look over funeral homes, took over the cemetery, the black cemetery near where I lived and I don't remember anybody complaining. Now, the federal government has stated in the letter in May that it is land is to be used for aviation. And if that's point blank, it's point blank. And I think I would advise you all to vote yes due to the fact that we are outstanding citizens who care about everything, the air, the wind. We just accepted so many words today for water. Just think of how many other places that will be looking at Pompo Beach as the first in Broward County to have a school aviation school. I vote yes.

Very good. Thank you. Next speaker, please come forward. Just name and address for the record. Uh Gary Phillips, 1210 Northeast 27th Avenue. Um I grew up in Pompo Beach. Um I used to my brother used to drag me through that area before they put fences up around it and we used to explore it looking for snakes and turtles and finding everything you can. My dad had a car lot over on uh Dixie Highway right across from the um the horse the the horse area and we would just cruise across and get out there, get go all the way through. We'd cut through the through the um golf course and everything. And it makes me sick to my stomach to think that you guys are going to destroy that area. And you're going to do it and I know you're going to do it. I know there's nothing stopping you. There's nothing stopping you. Nobody Nobody sticks up to the FAA. Who knows? I don't even think the FAA is trying to get that land from you. But you're going to do it anyway, aren't you? You're going to just tear it right up. You're going to slam it right out of there and and you won't even think twice about it because you just you guys are overdeveloping PMPO Beach to the point of comedy. I've ne I just I just got back here after spending 20 years in Los Angeles and it's starting to look it looks exactly like Los Angeles now. There's no green spaces left. There's there's just traffic and buildings and they're making these buildings with apartment buildings. Nobody's living in them. They're all empty. It's so weird. It's so in it's so something's going on and you're about to let it happen again. But this time, you're going to take something so more than just like a an old, you know, an old restaurant or an old you're going to take such beautiful beautiful land, such beautiful animals and land and you you could just leave it there and go around it, but you're not. You're going to go and you're going to get rid of it and it's disgusting and you're going to do it and you're going to let the airport come in there and

have more more flight schools that are just driving us absolutely nuts and you don't care. Nobody cares that my house on a bad day gets over a hundred flights over it of people going in circles and you're going to bring more of them in there and the airport's going to become bigger or the air park, the airport, air park, whatever it's called. It's going to get worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and you don't care. You're just going to develop the out of it. I I'm okay with it. I'm not an nimi. I'm not an nimi. I'm I'm all for development. Smart development. Kind development. Kind development. Care about the people that live their development. And you guys, I don't know what you're doing, but it it makes me paranoid. And I have conspiracy theories in my head that you guys are like letting special interest take over. And just like it's happening all over South Florida, all over the state of Florida, all over the United States, we have we the people have to stand up and stop letting you guys do this. Stop ruining beautiful areas so that you can have one more flight school, one more this, one more that. Thank you.

Thank you. Next speak, ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen, please. Next speaker. Anybody please come forward?

His name and address for the record.

Joselyn Jackson. Welcome back, city manager. First of all, I would like to say I don't know how many of you visit these strip clubs. We got two of them in district 4. Matter of fact, how many of you done been to jail? We got several in district 4. Now, at the end of the day, it's time for us to start developing against some things that we would like to have. For starters, our children. We bigger than basketball. We bigger than football. So, it's time for us to get something for our children. And you guys talking about green space. If your homeowners go outside, look at the green space in front of you that you pay for. When it come to our children getting their education, career advancements, we stand 10 toes down for the opportunity of our children, no matter what color they are. And for anyone to sit on this panel to disagree, to not have us to take advantage of this opportunity is only one thing. You don't see the vision. Our vision is big here and it's time. It's time for the northeast side to get with the program. We don't been silent, quiet. You know, you got the beautiful pier, you got the war city building up, and you had the sand, the sand spurs that we pay for quarterly, yearly. Ain't nobody coming over here talking about that. We 100% support the aviation. You The planes been flying. I had a home in for 20 years over here in kindergarten. The the

planes fly so low you you you be afraid to have your children outside. Ain't you talking about green space but to prevent our children from excelling in life? No, that's not going to happen before the aviation. My hat go off to you, Mr. Baritin. I'm I'm big on representation of us. We have come a long ways from Pompo. Trust and believe from every fiber and beam in me. Pompo is standing on the backs of the migrants. It's time. It's time for a change. We got development coming. It's time for a change. We may not get everything we want, but we going to get some things. And we sick of all that foolishness coming in our development. Like, like I said, the strip clubs and the jail houses. We bigger than that.

Very good. Thank you, ladies. Ladies and gentlemen, please. No, no applause.

Um, I I try and stop all applause. Thank you. Um, any further input from the public? Last opportunity. Please come forward. Miss Mr. Bington Irving. It's I was going to bring you up after the public finished because you're kind of I want I want to hear a better explanation of this, but let's further input from the public. Seeing none, public input closed. Um, now Mr. Iring, if you could if you could I mean give an explanation of what's going on here. I know that there's some confusion out there about what what's happening and and why we're doing this and and I mean we know what's going on up here on the deis but just you know for the public who's watching at home and stuff could you just kind of explain what it is that uh the plan is for this particular parcel.

Sure absolutely thank you mayor vice mayor commissioners board uh thank you all for uh uh having me and and and listening in regards to this. Now, um I know there's a lot of rumors out there as it relates to some stuff that's been seen in the public uh pertaining to uh programs expanding to Fort Lauderdale Executive Airport. Um and of course with our grant uh our lease is coming to an end. Our lease ends at the end of this month. And um uh about a year almost a year and a half ago, I was asked a question um by one of the commissioners of where else do we do this work? Of course you all know I'm based uh out of Opalaka airport and of course I shared we do some work in Fort Lauderdale Executive Airport and in addition to that we do work all across the country. There is tremendous need. This isn't just a pompo issue. There's tremendous need all across this country as it pertains to empowering our communities through skilled trades and workforce development. And I'm not talking about a flight school. Never have spoken about a flight school. What we did with your grant that you provided to us is we had the opportunity to of course work with young students uh within middle and high school. Uh just recently we had a STEM fest in December. We're expecting 150 kids. We had over 400 students. Uh not counting parents, not counting adults who were present. Some of you had a chance to attend that. the adult program. We work with 11 candidates.

Some of those candidates you met here. Of the 11, six of them are employed. Now, one of the six did not pass a drug test. Right? We have to celebrate the success along with the challenges. Two additional students went on to major in skilled trades at Broward College. one of the candidates um uh does not have a he's working on his driver's license and he's working on um basically not only his driver's license but reliable transportation and uh for his employment opportunity. I love Pompo. I love this city and I know there's a lot of rumors saying, "Hey, he's leaving." And I just want to make very, very clear. I ain't going nowhere. And I say that with all respect from the aspect of when we received the grant. Roughly 68% of that funding went towards the aircraft hanger. The landlord gave us no breaks, gave us no didn't work with us in regards to that. Now, we're appreciative we had the chance to rent the space. There wasn't anything provided. This wasn't our our experience in other places like Miami and other areas where we do this work. When I first came to PMPO, I came with a very clear mission. And that mission was to not only have a program here, but build an enterprise here around workforce as well as education. I shown on the screen what conceptually this can potentially look like and it's something that I take serious. What I plan to execute in Pompo isn't the same as what we're doing in Fort

Lauderdale and a 10,000 square foot hanger. This is about creating an ecosystem that thrives on its own, leverages industry who are giving you percentages of of of their revenue in order to invest in a direct workforce pool that they would have access to. This isn't something that I'm making up. This is what we do in Miami. We went from a 1,200 foot office space in Miami to now having over 22,000 square ft of training space in Miami as well as acreage being provided to us for us to expand. Now, I also want to say this, and I know there's been comments made about the FAA and and and so forth as it relates to an airport being an operating as an airport. Of course, in working with you all, we would want to respect uh some of the environmental concerns, separation concerns from sand and spurs and so forth. My daughter is an equestrian. Many people don't know that, right? She just competed at Wack in Ocala. What we have to understand here in South Florida as it pertains to airports, whether we like it or not, look at Opaaka airport, first or second busiest airport in the country in business aviation. Fort Lauderdale Executive Airport is the seventh busiest airport in the nation. Why are flight schools coming to Pompo? Because there's nowhere else to go. I'm not representing flight schools. I'm not I I have no intention of creating flight

schools. We want to work with industry where we're bringing in maintenance facilities, overhaul facilities, create employment, and so forth. The reason why I bring up those two facts is because like it or not, the FAA will do what the FAA has to do. I've seen it in Opalaka. I've seen it in other places. And it's just a matter of time. There's nowhere else left in South Florida as it pertains to airport expansion. Now, my approach is simple. create an ecosystem, bring in industry nonrelated to uh you know training aircraft, figure out a meaningful approach as it pertains to yes respecting the environment and and some of those key things. But that's my approach. I guarantee there are other developers salivating to come come in and really create the definition of a concrete jungle. So what we're going to do now that the grant is nearing to an end, we're going to continue serving students from Pompo and until we figure out the right situation in Pompo. We'll serve them from Fort Lauderdale Executive. The interest and the commitment still remains. Right now we have another 10 students who want to participate in the program. But as it relates to the employment aspect of it, this is is something that uh of course there's FAA mandates, but as it relates to my personal passion of working in this community, I'm committed. When we got the grant, we had

to pay the rent with no breaks, financial breaks. We still said, "Let's do it." equipment we could not afford. We brought over $160,000 of equipment from Miami 30 miles north up here to still serve students. My level of commitment stands and I hope to expand what we're doing uh as it relates to the air park. If I don't do it, somebody else will and that's just how it works uh in aviation. So, thank you all for for hearing me out. Thank you.

Very good. Thank you, Mr. Irving. appreciate you you being here in PMPO Beach and uh and congratulations on all all your success in the aviation world. Thank you so much. All right, commission discussion, questions, concerns. Commissioner Fessk, then Commission Go ahead, Commissioner Fess.

Okay, I want to thank you for all of your input. As I mentioned at the February um 11th meeting 2025, almost a year ago, I fully support Bington's program and training schools. So these but this is they're two separate items. They just happen to be linked together for the purposes of this these agenda items. So as far as I understand it, Mr. Barington was not offered a lease even one with contingencies at the moment and that was at least back in February of 2025. I haven't seen anything in the backup. So we're going to start there. Um but so I want to separate the two issues entirely. I support the training program. I' I've said that multiple times and I continue to do that. Miss Dolan on the slide that you had here going back a few related to the the map that one is this. So th those two maps there with how it's marked the adopted future land use map and proposed future land use map. Could you could you explain where we are currently? How are those

how are That is still our adopted land use map and that is still our proposed land use map. Until we do this second reading and transmit that to the DEEO, that will continue to be our land use map. Once they approve that, um if you all vote to approve this tonight, it'll go to DEO within 30 days. It'll be our land use map. Okay. Um on this on the city of PMPO Beach, is this land currently designated as open recreation or parks and recreation? PR public. We're changing it from open space recreation for this 46 acre parcel to transportation. Just that parcel outlined in blue. Okay. Just the parcel outlined in blue,

right? The rest is already transportation. So, uh, when I pulled up on multiple because I was trying to go through this multiple times and it seemed a little confusing to me, but when I pulled this up, um, multiple times on our, you know, basically went straight to our own website and our property map and it's listed here. If you click on it, it's listed here as like this section here is listed folio number 48422500. It's zoned as PR. That zoning is parks and recreation. The land use is open space recreation. Okay. So, we're changing the land use today, but but but we're but land use. So, we're changing the zone, but the zoning and rec use, it is it is still just for just for clarity sake.

It's listed as parks and recreation. Yes. And we will eventually reszone this, but we're not going to mess with that until we get this land use done. Okay. Um, if I remember correctly, back in February of last year, is there a portion of this property listed? I don't know how many acres it was. I But how many acres was listed in I think it was parks recreation inventory? 33 of these acres was in our inventory. That was the arburetum. And even if we take those 33 acres out, we still have plenty of recreational land. You said actually the surplus will last us another 80 years based on the current growth.

Okay. Um I just have a few questions for Mr. Burman before I continue. Um Mr. Burman, does the PMPO Beach City Charter control and limit the city commission zoning and land use authority?

Gives the commission land use authority. Yes. Okay. So could this the charter specifically controls and limits the land use authority? Uh Mr. Bman, I the Broward County Charter gives the county land use authority. The city must be in compliance with the county's land use map. That's why we can't change our land use map until they change theirs. That was my That was not my question. My question was Mr. Burman. Just the PMPO Beach City Charter control and limit the city commission's zoning and land use authority. I'd have to look at the charter, right, and find a specific location for that. It's difficult to do when I get the question.

That's fine. It's okay. Um, is it correct then in your opinion many years as a city attorney that ordinances and zoning actions may not conflict with the charter?

The charter must be followed. Yes or no? Really? Okay. And then under So if you want to pull it up under chapter 2.09 09 of the city charter. Does alienation of city property include more than just sale, such as conversion of land from one public use to a fundamentally fundamentally different use? No. Conversion. What what section are you referring to?

Chapter 2.09 of the city charter. Okay. What chapter specifically? 2.09 of the charter. City charter.

Section two is incorporation. have I don't didn't bring my full book with me so I just put the notes because I was trying to keep it short. So if you want to get back to me on that that's fine. I'll be happy to get back to you on it. I would have had the answers for you had I uh been okay question. I just have a few more questions and then related to park inventory. Um if land is listed in the city's parks and recreation inventory, is it treated as land held for public recreational purposes? I'm sorry. Can you move your microphone up?

Sure. Sorry. I know. If land is listed in the city's parks and recreation inventory, is it treated for land held for public recreational purposes? Could be unless it has different underlying land use. If it has different underlying land use, the land use controls and that controls the zoning and the land use controls the designation. Okay. So if such land is converted to a non-park use as we're attempting to do here such as transportation or u more aviation infrastructure does that constitute a conversion from park use

likely not okay but I'd have to are you asking in this instance is it a conversion just in general that the question is because I want to make sure I'm very clear on what I see here what I see here there's There's some questions. I want to make sure that I'm that I'm fully informed before voting. If it's if it's a designated city park, it would be a conversion. If it's for future potential park use, then no, it would not be an unlawful conversion.

Okay. Well, under so under the city charter, would any type of conversion, so land use plan amendment from publicly public park or recreational purposes require votal voter refer voter approval by referendum of an actual existing park. sale of park property which is a known designated inuse park not future potential property. Okay. Can the city lawfully avoid a charter requirement for voter approval by accomplishing the same result through resoning or future land use map amendments?

I don't understand the question, Commissioner. Okay. Can we can we circumvent or find a workaround lawfully to avoid a charter requirement for voter approval by accomplishing the same result end result through reszoning or a future land use map amendment? The charter requirements need to be met. They cannot be violated. However, the interpretation of what violates the charter requirements would need to be examined. What you're specifically discussing Okay. Is it correct then that the legal analysis looks like looks at the functional outcome of an action rather than the label applied to it?

I can't answer that question the way it's asked. I'm sorry. Okay, that's fine. Um so absent a written charter opinion and obviously giving you some time um addressing the charter and the to changes here is it procedurally sound for the commission to proceed on these items that assume conversion of park inventory land. It's not park inventory if it's not a park. If it's not used as a park, named as a park and been designated as a park, it's designated for future potential park use. That's different than getting rid of park property.

Well, I don't know if I misheard Miss Dolan, but I both at Feb and at the February 2011 February Feb February 11th, 2025 meeting and just a few minutes ago, she did state that 33 rough 33 acres approximately of the PMPO Beach titled Arboritum was listed in the parks and recreation inventory. Just a yes or no. I would like to tell you what the parks and recreation inventory is about. So, the county has a 3 acre per thousand requirement.

Ma'am, I I understand, but I still have the floor and I didn't I just just yes or no is fine. Thank you. I I I've sat and listened to everybody else and I've gotten interrupted plenty of times. I'm trying to keep this short without long explanations. Um, if if land is listed in the parks and recreation inventory, is it considered land held for public recreational or open space purposes? I didn't hear a word of what you said. I'm sorry. Can you speak into your microphone? Your turn that way and I can't hear you. Is land listed in the parks and recreation inventory considered land held for public recreation or open space purposes? Yes or no? I don't know. I don't know what and and I think Miss Dolan was explaining what and she does know what park

I but this is this is a this is a legal question and that's fine. uh would and would reclassifying this land to transportation zoning remove it from park or recreational use and either one of you can answer the yes or no. The parks and recreation inventory is not something that holds. It's just a accounting of how we're meeting the county's level of service standard. Again, the county requires us to discount things. It's not a onetoone. We don't take the total acreage in our recreation. That's not the question. Well, you you don't want to listen because you you you're totally confused. I'm not. So, I'm just I'm not that totally confused that I sat through this last time and I asked some questions related to I haven't even gotten into the wildlife.

Well, um these are questions. Commissioner Fess, your your time at this My time is not up. Mayor and questions do not count as Commissioner Fess. Questions do not count. Your time at this moment are point of order. A city attorney Burman, do questions related to the agenda items specifically at hand count towards a time limit of any kind? No. Thank you. No, you have you have the right to ask questions, but the difference between asking questions and speaking on an item is getting a little close here, but you have the right to ask. I'm I'm literally asking yes or no questions. Commission. Mr. Mr. Berman, point of order.

Yes. Am I within my rights as the chair of this meeting to give her 10-minute sessions to to speak on an item, two 10-minute sessions, and then let her ask any question she wants after those 10-minute sessions? You can do that as well, sir. That's that's that's what I'm doing.

I I sorry, point of order. That was not what we discussed, and there's never been an agreement beyond that. How can that be done without former formerly everybody addressing that and agreeing to it? I didn't know that. Had I known that on the top things, I would have gone through my 10-minute dissertation ahead of that. But you did not tell me in advance. That's not correct. You don't get to arbitrarily make up rules just as you see fit because you'd like to go ahead and push somebody to a certain direction. I have questions. I am not qu I am not going to vote on this and I cannot vote on this until these questions are answered. That is my duty. Commissioner Fac, you have Mayor Harden. Commissioner Fessk, you have two opportunities and I'm using my opportunity. Two opportunities of 10 minutes each. No. To address an item.

Please, please show me the item. Please show me where exactly. I think in reading Robert's rules, we discussed the fact that questions about an item will not constitute discussion time. That was discussed previously. Thank you. Okay. Continue. Very very narrow. Then commissioner Fessic. You ask a question. There is no discussion. You ask a question, you get an answer. Period. That's what I've been trying to do. Thank you. We get back to where I was. That's not a question.

I was interrupted as usual, unfortunately. Please allow me the grace to continue. Thank you. Uh, would transportation zoning be compatible with continued park or arboritum use? Yes or no? No. Thank you. Does the city charter require voter approval before park or recreation land is converted to non-park use? Yes or no? That's not what the charter says. Section 253 of the charter talks about power to sell. It's empowered to sell or dispose of lands, improvements, public buildings, uh except as otherwise provided. Park property is exempted. That has to but but it's not being sold. But it's being declassified.

It's not being sold or disposed of. In other words, the city no longer owns it, has it has it and uses it. The same type of argument was made with regard to the park and change of use of the park down the street. It's not being sold or disposed of. It's a similar situation. It's being repurposed, reused for city purposes. So, the city is not, if that's the question you're asking, is the city selling, does this constitute sale or disposition of city property? The answer is no. So in your opinion, airport or transportation purpose does not override park inventory designation and charter protections would not apply. Question is a question. Thank you.

The way the question is is is framed, it's it's not what the charter says. Is it being sold or disposed of? It is no. It's not one overrides the other. It's a change of use. It's still owned, maintained by the city. more questions and then I'll be done. Um, had a question here. Mr. Burman, could I get a written I get a written statement from you related to our charter and all of the above from this meeting at a at a future date.

Certainly, I can as long as I have the the proper I will give you a list question where I can respond and take the time review and look at the charter and give you an answer. I'm happy to do so. I I appreciate that because it is very important that we question right

ask the question commissioner fessic. Okay, I would ask the question then. I would ask the question to city staff, city attorneys, and any attorney out there. If the acreage is listed in our parks and recreation inventory, converting it to transportation would would con converting it to transportation remove park use and therefore require voter approval according to the city charter. Mr. Burman is going to get me a a written response. I am appreciative of that. I would like to make one final uh question for the record and and and let you know that I do object to proceeding on this due to its reliance on some material material

question. Commissioner Fessic. And I'm also going to re ask point of order for a recommendation for the behavior that I have been experiencing over the past several meetings. Thank you, Mayor Harden. Very good. Thank you. Further commission discussion. Still no time. Commissioner Secret.

Yes. It's always it's always a it's always difficult when the in the understanding between the zoning code and the land used uh comprehensive land use plan and the underlying zoning. Um um I just want to say that we have such a valuable we have a wonderful asset in our air park and the history of it goes back decades century probably and we have a sand and spurs there which has been there also for for seems like ever. And it's a it's really a an awesome place and we have our horses there and we're activating it more as a park. And the the fact that the Sandis Spurs is already zone transportation puts it at risk. um because and I think it's been uh clearly pointed out I hope and I I'll just point it out um and and not to ad nauseium but the FAA oversees how this park how this piece of property is used and over the years we've been in many many and mayor I'm sure you'll attest to this. Um, but we've always been in negotiations uh with the FA, gaining the golf course, gaining the four fields, gaining more and more recreational opportunities and being able to build there for the for the benefit of our community and for our kids having that open space. But the the FAA wants this to be used for transportation purposes. this not a flight school

and it's kind of I feel it in a very simple term is oh but for the FAA go we uh at the end of the day they could take take it over and run our air park and we might we might make them mad this is the federal government and and I might also just add kind of off on a tangent I mean, these airports were built during World War II, World War I, World, I don't know. The inner coastal was built so we can move material down there without our enemies, the Germans, whomever seeing us. So, these airports were strategically placed to defend our nation. The FAA is not going to let these go. And we are in a a time politically have to do is turn on the news and know what we have going on in the in the seas to the south and in Central America. Uh and you know we're at a very perilous time. It it might seem. I hope everything works out. But um and I also also want to point out that you know the aviation industry as a whole is growing. Uh it is the it's the it's the one of the largest growing uh what do you call it? Uh advocations uh vocations pilots. We need pilots. Uh we're doing more and more with the aviation and this the opportunity to have our young people uh educated by a man who is doing this out of the generosity of his heart finding a vocation. I'm a huge vocational person. I come from a blueco

collar workingclass background. My father was a mason. We need ACHV. We need plumbers, electrician. And I don't think AI is actually going to be able to do that. So I'm a huge proponent of that. And I've talked with Mr. Irving and and asked, you know, how can we be as neighborly as possible to the sand and spurs to the the park there? Can he leave all of the existing landscaping as much as he can in situ until the whole thing is erected as to not um impact adversely the uh the stables and the horses etc. and he has graciously said, "Yeah, that's not a problem. We can we can work that out." So, as a neighbor, as a good neighbor, and I'm that's my district. Um, we're deed restricted to aviation, and you know, how did some of these environmentally sensitive land designation get put on here? I don't know. We're talking 40, 45 years ago. Um, it was different. Was it a and and and we're not selling um we're just doing what the FAA says we have to do. It has to be used for aviation purposes. Now by their grace they've let us have as I I'll just reiterate the golf course the four fields guppies soccer fields and all that land we own it. They oversee it and that is just the way it is. And uh having this technical

training uh school would be an awesome jewel in our crown in this city. and I think we'll protect Sand and Spurs going forward. I don't I I don't want to poke uh the bear the FAA in the eye. And uh so, you know, we've gone through this. The county's approved it. Uh I don't think we're doing anything legal, illegal I should say. I'm I'm fairly I'm confident we're not. But, you know, if we are then and then, you know, there's there's the always the option for any citizen to file suit and and make your point in a court of law. Um, but I've never known this city to to do anything that was not on the up and up. And so, you know, I'm I'm I'm really excited and in favor and I I'm gonna vote in favor of these items. Thank you. Very good. Further commission discussion. Vice Mayor,

thank you. I have a lot of thoughts on this and what's going on here. The the first thing I need to take a second to say is that I I really don't think that city staff should be audibly laughing at commissioners. I appreciate all of the work that city staff does, but we deserve respect up here. even if you don't like what we're saying or even if you know better than what we're saying, the audible laughter is just sets a really bad tone. Um, and I would hope the the mayor would would say those things and make sure that's not happening also. But, um, that it's just the disrespect given to us at times um, between each other and in in some cases the audible laughter from staff is not I find it inappropriate. Um, someone else laughing. Um, so it's good to see you here, Mr. Irving, because I have heard a lot and I appreciate you getting up and clarifying because I have been told by many people that you have left Pompa and you have your plans have changed and and you have now moved everything that you plan to do here to Fort Lauderdale Executive. So, you clarified that you're at executive now, but can you confirm that you don't intend to and don't have the space or the plans over there to open a similar type of campus that you intend to open here because Yeah. And I'd like you to get up and do that, but because my concern has always been uh that this could become something else. We once we do this, we open the floodgates and if you don't pursue what you've told or I mean you get hit by a bus, right? Then what happens? We have this land that has that we've gone through this entire

process and like you said it's it's fair game. Some we we don't get to control what we get. So please can you clarify that your intent is still to do that here not in Fort Lauderdale and

Absolutely. So in Fort Lauderdale just to give greater perspective um we're going to be operating in two 5,000 foot hangers 10,000 square ft and the magnitude of the program is nowhere near the level of what we want it to be here. Um the uh of course about a year and a half ago I shared with you all that um of course Fort Lauderdale executive um has strong interests and I chose pompo first um what can be done here with bringing in MRO what can be done here in creating its own self-sustained ecosystem uh where it basically funds applicants could be done at a very large scale which will impact the of course north end of the county and allow us to do some amazing things because you the space in order to create that can be done uh for a lot of executive is a much uh smaller scale program compared to this.

Okay. Thank you. So, I like I said, I've been hearing that you had kind of moved on and because of taking too long or or lease issues and so I I do think it's important for everyone to hear it from you that you still maintain the same level of interest in doing what you described to us a year ago. Yes. Uh so, our lease um ends the 31st of this month. We still have several schools scheduled to come in um before then, but once the 31st Okay. You'll be out of Papad. Yes. But you have whatever investors it takes in place to make this plan happen that you've showed us. Of course.

Okay. Okay. Because like I said, I don't we're we're basically hanging a for lease sign on this property if we do this and with the hope that we can negotiate a lease with you and come to terms. And I remember again a year ago, I tried to watch the video, but it wasn't online. We talked about a lease and I was hoping when this came back to us that we would have some kind of draft of a lease in place showing that we had made more progress with you on this. And it's there is nothing in here. And I asked the city and it didn't seem like there was any progress on that.

No, because this is the first step. Um before you and of course you wouldn't want to false advertise uh something that isn't. Um I mean the only thing I have is my name.

That's all I got. And uh anyone who knows me who know my 20 years in this industry, my name is on it. I don't know how to fail. And that's just how I run. That's how I roll. And um I've had tremendous success from starting off at an airport with three holes in the bottom of my shoes and wanting to fly for someone and ending up having a business, having airplanes and and and of course expanding into stuff like this. So that's that's just my my mo is everything. That's that's as much as I can I can give from that perspective.

Thank you for that. So, uh, I appreciate that. And every time something at the air park here comes up, whether it's Sandon Spurs or the last parcels got developed, we are told that it's the last thing and it always feels like there's a like a an urgency or a threat to it. Um, that we have to keep finding ways to develop this. Uh, and I do hear the residents of our city, not just on this, but on everything, like the residents want us to find a way to slow things down a little, not to speed things up. The the pace of development is fast, and Pompo is changing quickly, and what we hear is protect our neighborhoods, protect our green space. So, I just want to make sure that the residents know we hear that and that we keep conveying that message to city staff. Sorry, Vice.

Thank you, Cassandra.

Um, and hearing that, you know, we don't worry, we have eight years left to go and with our current growth rate until we're out of like ratios, you know, green space is is not comforting to me. I don't want to be meeting minimum thresholds. I want us to be continuing to be focused on being a good place to live for for residents. uh with you know I also on the environmental piece of this I'm just going to say this now I really am struggling with the ESL designation here because uh the planning council letter says you know staff doesn't generally support these type of amendment applications due to environmentally sensitive nature of the designated lands but there are some aspects that differentiate this um and for me if you know resident wants to get rid of a tree you you have to give up your your firstborn child but here we're just taking an entire entire area that's been preser, you know, designating this for 35 years and saying it's urgent right now that we have to undo this. Uh, and then my last point is, and I appreciate you having the FAA letter, this is actually the slide I was going to ask for. Uh, the language on here really concerns me because it's not exactly the language in the letter. So, the letter is saved in our backup as, you know, FAA letter prohibiting environmentally sensitive land. And when you read the letter, it certainly they don't want us to do it and they are opposing it, but the language is not nowhere near as doomsday and emphatic as the language that we're being told. So, one of them, you know, it says it prohibits. Their letter says they object. An objection is a reasonable debate. A pro a prohibit is is is absolutely not. Uh that it says there's another part of this where it says the FA opposes any incumbrances. It says that they may prevent in the letter. So, the language in the letter is nowhere near as um as ironclad and as as like I said, doomsday as what these slides say.

And that concerns me also that it's not exactly um representing what the FAA letter says. I understand they oppose it. They have objections to it, but just to outright label the letter prohibiting is is adding some like a spin to this that's it's a little beyond what they said. Um, so like I said, I I support Mr. Irving. I always have. I support aviation uh uses. I am a pilot. I worked for Boeing. I designed airplanes. My dad was the manager of Miami Air Traffic Control Center uh for years. So, it's in my DNA, but so is protecting uh the green space in our city and what the residents here want. So, the environmental part of this is really where I am struggling with. um given that it's yet to be explained why we're just waving a wand and getting rid of this when people can't even cut down a tree. Thank you.

Very good, Commissioner Perkins.

Thank you, Mayor. So, I want to thank you, Mr. Irvin, for sitting through our meeting. And I did hear you one you did say you love Pompo. So, I love hearing you say that that you love Pompo. Um, I've read the the letter from the FAA. I do understand how government works. And when I think of FAA, I think of the IRS. When they want to do something, they're going to do it. It's the federal government whether we like it or not. We love to protect our environment. We love our horses, our stable or whatever. But we don't own any of the land. And when the federal government wants something, they will do it. This is like a slow burn. It's coming. It's a slow burn. I've worked for the federal government. They don't play. They're just This letter is really nice the way they wrote it because they said current stance is unchanged. Letting us know we haven't changed our mind. It's the same. So I I would love to and you all know how I feel about education for Mr. Bington Urban to continue what he's doing. Um he's a great young man. I I admire his energy and what he has to offer to especially our young adults and what he's doing. Now, if you were famous enough and big enough to be on 60 Minutes as to what you're doing, you can do it in Pompo that you love so much. We want you to remain here. Although you're working in other cities, we still want you to remain in Pompo because we have a lot of kids that need what you have to offer. So, um, with that being said, federal government will do what they want to do,

especially if they own the land. Thank you. Very good. Further commission discussion. Commissioner Smith.

The um there's green space there and there might be some cool stuff to see as a young child cutting across the airport and over to the golf course, but it's it's not an area we can go to. It's not our it's not our parks. It's not a place that we can go explore. We can't put a trail in it. It's FAA property. We have a as Miss Dolan mentioned the scrub pine parks which you can go to and that's available to the public and you can walk around and you can explore. um relocating anything that's valuable to those parks makes a lot of sense to um move trees or mitigate with trees on the trail that people do walk on and rollerblade on and bike on on the outside of the airport makes a lot more sense than protecting the land that's inside the airport that we can't even get to. We we have a very unique opportunity here to provide something that nobody else has and that's to do what Bington Irving is recommending and you know I hope that happens but if it doesn't happen and we go through this process I know that we're going to provide aviation types of businesses on the airport and the more quality aviation businesses that we have at the airport that make money, the less flight schools are going to want to come here and they're going to change their business plan to also be a more profitable area. So, we have to think about the future and as um Commissioner Perkins mentions, it is it is aviation property. um we have an opportunity to turn some pieces of land into something that can be very unique

for PMPO Beach and Brower County and and again I I love green space too. I fight for green space all the time. I live in green space but we can't visit that green space on the airport. So this is an opportunity for us to make proper um land use plan and for us to um what's just change the map of the environmentally sensitive plan and I think it's a smart move and I am supporting this. Thank you mayor. Very good further commission discussion. Harden commissioner fessic.

Thank you. I so I want I had some questions related to and I and I have some comments related to the environmentally sensitive lands. I too. Uh before I get started on that though, I want to make sure it was stated twice here that FAA owns the land but who but it's the city of PMPO Beach who owns land with deed restrictions. Correct. Thank you. So yes, we do have we do have things that we have to we are obligated to do in the areas that are designated as such. And in the event that so for example, Sand Spurs is not protected. It's already designated as transportation. So that is already on the chopping block if you will for FAA development and aviation use of development. Secondly, the when when is the Goodyear blimp lease up? believe now I think it's like almost two years left.

29 2029 he says okay and I don't know if there's ever been any conversation with them because it was a fairly long lease but their space that they've leased for quite some time used to require a much larger space due to how they had to turn the blimps around where now we can turn on a dime thanks to technology. Um, has there been any conversation that they may opt to renew their lease with a smaller parcel? No conversation. It's not my area of knowledge, but Steve says no.

Okay. Um, did, if I remember correctly from the meeting, and I sort of went back and just kind of hit some highlights, who proposed this, who brought forth this change? Was it requested by the FAA or was it something that was selfinitiated internally?

Uh the air park master plan map and that's when this change was proposed from in was approved by the city commission in 2021 and approved by the FAA. That's when these changes came about. It's my understanding. Okay. So, but but that's just a master plan. So we as a city or city staff came up with this master plan then correct? Yes. This and this plan is this change we're talking about is reflected on that master plan approved in 2021. So this just didn't happen overnight is my point.

Right. And I and I and I would agree with you. It didn't happen overnight. Um, but the question is, was it at that point in time required as part of the master plan or was it proposed by the city to reduce environmentally sensitive lands and potentially have more more hangers or more space? Um, I I I will get into the environmental side of things, but I I'm a little bit concerned because I've like uh vice mayor, I've also heard a lot of rumors and I and I actually called Mr. Mr. Irving and said, "Hey, are you still coming to PMPO? Are you still planning on hanging out in PMPO? Is that the what's going on here?" I wanted to know are you are you out or are you in? He says no I'm still very much in interested in in in a in a in a something in bringing my my training school to to PMPO Beach and I told him from the beginning I love what he's done. I said it very publicly here a year ago, but we're not talking about his flight school and he doesn't have a lease. Doesn't even have a contingent lease. Been brought so many different unsolicited proposals over the past well year and three month year and two month a year and a month that have come with here's the here's the plan. Here's the signed contract. All that's required is commission approval and and you know these are the steps this is that that are required. when we first met when when I first met Mr. Irving and and um I was even say Captain Irving, right? When I when when I first met him and I was introduced to to his program, I thought it was a fantastic idea. In fact, we were talking about all the different ways that he could be possibly expand into other into sort of other similarly aviation use but also technology options. He also shared stories with me that in some cases he had felt pushed out by other by other cities or municipalities not because he they didn't they promised him something but they didn't deliver. I and so I've from the beginning cautioned him on making sure that everything was whatever you were whatever you promised was what you were able to deliver on and

and have something in writing. I'm also disappointed that I asked for that in February and we still don't have it today. Um so going into the going into the going into the the ESL stuff, the environmentally sensitive land. And if anybody'd like to see it, I mentioned it was 1981 initially that it be that was put on the local area of particular concern. Um, anybody's welcome to to view these files. It's a it's a massive document that's very long and it handles all of Broward County. um at that point it was designated and there's some areas on there which sadly a little over 40 years later no longer exist. So if it was a if it was set there and it's been protected for such a long time. My concern is as everything else has dried up and and it's fantastic that we have the Highland Preserve scrub area and but those are county parks there. This is this is something that we can handle within our city. I am personally not opposed to trying to find a way to work with maintaining the 33 acres that are designated as environmentally sensitive land and approve everything else around that to be converted to air park transportation for the sake of maybe freeing up some of that acreage so that we can potentially um give Mr. uh give Captain Captain Irving a place to expand his his training school. I'd like further clarification related to the environmentally sensitive lands. And I was promised in in February of last year that we would have it would be welcome to have some um environmental folks come and do a a more thorough assessment. I pointed out last time that as while I as much as I appreciate the expertise of Kimley Horn's assessment that it was also stated that there was only one only so I think blue was less than 15 FWC guidelines says 15% of the

site to determine if habit if a habitat is suitable. So she's as Miss Bachelor stated in February of last year that her and one colleague spent half a day traversing this entire property with I think the total space Miss Dolan will have to remind me of but it's quite a large was it 80 something acres I believe to determine if there was a if there was habitat or ecologically if there was environmental um habitat was suitable. They mentioned that also that there had to be some different uh tables met and one of them was about soil use. So there had to be multiple so you know one of the things was sand quality soil and was discounted initially in these things. So, in one of the things that was said in February, it says nowhere, not anywhere near 1, two, three, and four, which is was listed on the prior thing. And I personally went to San Andur multiple times kind of when as soon as I knew that this was going through the county level and I and I walked I walked as close as I could to the property and there were two burrowing owls at Sand and Spurs, the nest that were roped off. They're they're very much close there and likely there. Um the other thing that that concerns me is you know while everybody's able to hold multiple boards and and things along those lines is that this seems like to me and to residents that I have been that talking with that it's again seems forced and and I would really really like if we're going to do this it's not about obstructing a progress or it's not about blocking a a you know an air aviation use for a training school. Like I said I think the training school would be great. But I think that our youth absolutely needs it. I think that we should jump at the chance of partnering with him in any which way we can. I want to make sure that we do it responsibly and that we check all the boxes so that we make sure that we are doing the pro we are working through the process as effectively as possible. Um lastly and and I will and I will wrap it up on this agenda item for

this. I obviously um do not support this at this point in time. I would like clarification from Mr. Burman. I would like clarification related to both our charter and the county. um and as some of those processes and I would also like to mention that I did have a a wildlife rehabilitator if you were at some of the recent meetings once uh we were talking about the the hawk the release that she also volunteered they volunteered to donate some barn boxes to try to help not be rodenticide with no no rodenticide at our near our parks so to not kill our natural hawks and so she actually volunteered and sent an um just before the end of the year since I figured this was probably moving through the process pretty quickly to visit the site and I as far as I know her and Mr. Roco are still trying to find a time when she can she can do that. It's with the holidays it was tough and and it was short notice once we saw that this was on the agenda. So I would really like the opportunity to have her be able to to get in there before we move this forward. Like I said, it's not about anything other than just getting some answers to questions and and if we we want to I would I would support if we want to move this, you know, postpone this for, you know, all three all three of these items until we get those answers because then I can actually move forward with the answers that I feel it would be um sufficient. But at that po at this point in time with the information I have now and or the lack of information I have now, I I cannot support designating environmentally sensitive land in a Florida scrub pine habitat that is known to have gopher tortoises, is known to have is known to have burrowing owls, is known to to has been in and designated as such for over 40 years. Um I just cannot in in any any bone in my body look at my grand my future grandchildren and say I did that. Thank you.

Very good. Further commission discussion. Commissioner Perkins.

Yes. Thank you, Mayor. Um I just want to really quick go back to um the the grant funding. Um I understand um Mr. Irvin that your grant funding ends the end of January, which is in about two, three weeks maybe. Um I'd like to ask the city manager if he can direct his staff to perhaps work with Mr. Irvin to see if we could possibly find him another location. Um maybe if we can get with him sometime this this week because as of now um I think you'll be moving out of that hanger January 30th or 31st. So I'd like to direct the city manager if he would to work with Mr. Bington and see if we can find um a location for him at least temporarily until we can find a permanent location for him. Thank you.

Very good. Commissioner Seagerson Eaton. Thank you, Mayor. I just have a clarifying question on the presentation on item 14, H4. Bean, would you um the upper pardon me? You're not there yet. Oh, number 12 item together. Sorry, it was just technical question. I'll wait till That's fine. Thank you. Further commission discussion, Commissioner Smith.

Just want one clarification. Um um if this passes today and we have people interested in developing properties, if they find that there's burrowing owls on the property, if they find tortoises on the property, who who takes care of it then? When um a developer wants to develop and there's environmentally sensitive things on the land,

the environmental permitting has to be done within 90 days before you start site clearing. So those would already be removed. You get through D permits in order to go in there and find everybody. You don't do it earlier because then they can move back in. So you wait until it's 90 days before clearing. And by the way, buringo buring owls, they like that open space around the airfield. They're not hustled into these wooded areas and they can stay. They're not bothering anybody, right? They're over by the runways, right?

So, this passes today. Doesn't it doesn't um say somebody can come in and just arbitrarily build if there are environmentally sensitive things on the individual properties. And that's something we do with everything we develop in the city. As every development, the developer takes care of looking at the land and identifying what needs to be moved and works with the city. So, it's a cost that they have. And it's not saying that if we vote on this today that it won't be taken care of. It'll be taken care of us if people come in and develop. Mr. Irving will have to take care of it on the piece of property that he's going to develop. So, it's not saying that we are abandoning anything that is sensitive. It's just saying that we'll let the developer handle the cost of it and the relocation of it. Thanks for that clarification. Thanks.

Very good. Further commission discussion. Just a question, Mr. Burman. Mr. Fess, thank you. Mr. Is it pos is it possible, do you think, to get me the answers that you have within two weeks? Certainly.

And do you think that it's possible to have access, Mr. Mr. Roco to for Shannon to get there within the next two weeks? Okay. And you know, whatever and and work something out. The reason why is because I look again, like I said from the beginning, I support support Mr. B Mr. Bandre's program and I and I want to separate this. This is definitely uh the la the last question I guess is is Commissioner Smith just just said that environmentally sensitive land. You know, they would Yes, I understand the developers would have to mitigate that. But what we're doing here with the land use and and whichever agenda item, you know, 1213 is we are actually changing that land use map and we are ddesating that environmentally sensitive land designation as a city. Correct. I'm sorry I wasn't

so this proc so this process by doing this this one two three essentially we are essentially taking this environmentally sensitive land designation and deddesating that within our municipality correct

okay so it is so and even if so if so right now in the memorandum of un a memorandum of agreement from 2007 this particular land was also designated as no not having a future air aviation use. It was a non-avviation used parcel based on the fact that it was designated as an arboritum and was other areas were prioritized. So I I'm I'm I'm saying these things because I want to make sure that that when I've said something then it's then it's come back. Oh, the FAA owns it. No, we own it. It's deed restricted and we do have to play nice with the FAA, right? But we also have the designation and we've had it for over 40 for 40 years or whatever 40 years for this to be an environmentally sensitive land. So taking that away is we remove again the power to change it back. Once it's gone, it's gone. I want to make sure that that's why I'm clear. So I would like to make a motion to move this since they both agreed to give me two weeks. I would and it's the new year. Um, I would like to make a motion to just table all these three items to uh the next commission meeting on on January 28th at 6 p.m.

seconded. It's been moved and seconded to postpone these three items until our next meeting. Yes. Thank you. And it's been seconded by Vice Mayor. Discussion on the motion. Seeing none, let's call the RO. Commissioner Fez. Yes. Commissioner Perkins. No. No. No. Okay. Sorry. Commissioner Seagerson Eaton. No. Commissioner Smith. No. Forier. Yes. Hart. No. Commissioner Fesik, you still have the floor for questions. Okay. I just like to just say on the record that I am um disappointed in the fact that um

questions. I'm I'm wrapping it up, Mayor. And I've So, you've got a question. Thank you. Yes. My question is why will you not work with us and be a cooperative and responsible official? Thank you. Very good. Further commission discussion? Seeing none, let's go ahead and call the role. Commissioner of Fezit. No. Commissioner Perkins. Yes. Commissioner Seagerson Eaton. Yes. Commissioner Smith. Yes. Vice Mayor Fornier. Yes. Harden.

Yes. Item 13 is a second reading of an ordinance. An ordinance of the city commission of the city of PMPO Beach, Florida, adopting an environmentally sensitive lands ESL map amendment to remove four ESL designated sites located on the PMPO Beach air park, providing for a determination that a local planning agency hearing was held on January 22nd, 2025, providing that a transmitt and adoption public hearing will be held providing for servability, providing for conflicts, providing an effective date. So moved. Second. moved and seconded for dis discussion. Miss Dolan, we incorporate the prior presentation into this agenda item and the following discussion. There's no more staff presentation.

Very good. Thank you for that. This is a public hearing. Is there any input from the public on this item? Please come forward. Just name an address for the record. M Bosworth, 4015 West Palm Air Drive. Respectfully, I know I can't address any specific commissioner, but to say that we trust the developers to mitigate things is putting the the inmates in charge of the asylum, so to speak. They get a slap. What happened at the Cordish site was an embarrassment. We had people get a fine for like what was it? something in the neighborhood of $10,000 who can afford millions. I mean, personally, I don't know what the situation is. I don't know what it would entail. I don't know why Mr. Irving couldn't open his school over at the Cordish site. There's plenty of room there and it's already been reszoned about three times and then it puts him in proximity to both airports and he's still in Pompo. But please don't say that we love the environment and then tell me that the developers are cool to do the thing. I I can't accept that. Thank you.

Very good. Next speaker, Charmaine Hills, 1021 Northeast 27th Avenue, Pompo Beach. And I just want to say that uh you know a little disappointed today with uh you know the change with everything I heard actually. Audrey I was very proud of you standing up for uh you know for the environment and whatever and I just want to say I've been here 23 years 23 years in PMPO been paying taxes. They were they are not cheap and um this is two different things like all of you with the uh schools and with now with the trade uh coming in the mechanicals I think that's great but I just want to say just think it is environmental it's also residents the noise pollution that we have now in Pmpo Beach is disgusting whoever let all these schools that and now we're going to be putting lighting on the runway. What are you gonna have lessons all through the night, too? What happened to those people that uh believed in this city that helped grow it through being here? And now we feel like we're at a military base and now with the environment environmental part of it, it's all about the money, you know. And it's really sad because I was always so proud of Pompo and just what everyone was saying. Greenland is diminishing everywhere because the attitude is all make money, you know, have more highrises and money, money, money. Like even this new

development, where are there going to be parking? Where's there going to be parking? It's ridiculous. You know, not even the airport. I'm talking your new development out here. I mean, your minds we we're a small little enclave and it's just you've done a lot of great improvements. The beach area, great. The airport, terrible. Really, really disappointing to see how the residents are being totally overlooked in so many different areas and now the wildlife, too. Thank you.

Thank you. Next speaker. Hello again. My name is Pastor Dr. Sherry Abram. Exit 36. I represent. I appreciate your vote. Yes, because that's just the start. I don't understand you, Audrey, when you say that you asked for information from Mr. Irving. Why would he give you his vision where you could use it to give to someone else? I mean, I wouldn't do that as far as what was his plans and how would he do it? and also he couldn't make plans unless you took this opportunity to vote. Those of you who voted yes, I commend you and giving us an opportunity to get started, an opportunity to know that all people, all people, whether it's Pompo or any place in Florida, will have the opportunity to extend their learning and education at the trade school. Now, I understand wildlife. I've had many pets in my classroom as well as in my home. However, there's a place for people and learning and there's a place for animals to exist. And I could understand if there was no place else for the

animals to go, I would be greatly concerned. But being a resident 25 years of Pompeo Beach and knowing that the experts have said that there are other places that the animals can be transported, I'm okay with that. Now, as far as the person that you said spent only a a half a day at the location where the animals were, well, they didn't have to look at all 80 acres or 80 whatever percent it was because we didn't need to change all of that. We only needed to look at the areas that were in question. for the change. Now again I commend Captain Barington Irving in giving us the opportunity to come to PMPO Beach to enlighten us to enhance our learning to help us to grow and nurture not only us with the aviation but we could put bicycles out there to help us with our bodies. We could put other um things out there to help us.

Thank you. Further input from the public. Going once, vice public input closed. Commission discussion, questions, concerns. Vice Mayor,

thank you. I'm be very brief. Yes, developers have to mitigate uh the site, but you cannot recreate natural nature and we have so little of it left in our city and in South Florida. So, the only type of valuable nature is not parks. Natural nature is also valuable. And I have real concerns about the loss of this this this green space, this ecosystem, uh, and the when you drive through there, the feel of of that part of PMPO, uh, the actual natural beauty and environment that we have there that there's not much left of and is not recreatable through mitigation efforts. Thank you.

Very good. Further commission discussion. Commissioner Fessk, ahead. Oh, I'm sorry, Commissioner Secret.

Thank you. Um, I want to um just point out for the record as well, this item came up last year in February, almost a year ago. Year I think is almost a year is plenty of time. preparation, questions, uh, explanations, clarifications, etc. And I will agree with vice mayor how beautiful, for instance, sand and spurs, and I can't help forget how you wanted to clear that out and get rid of it. So, I just happen to bring that up. Dealing with this since last February, plenty of time, and I am all for preserving what we can preserve, but I think that we all need to look at the realities on the ground. Um, so, uh, you know, that's that's I just wanted to offer that, uh, that we have been dealing with this for almost a year. Thank you.

Very good, Commissioner Fess.

Thank you. we are on this agenda item is specifically related to the environmentally sensitive land e designation. So, so I'm I don't have to drone on and I won't. My point is is that I think it's very important um like vice mayor said there's in the Florida in the Florida scrub habitat we have systematically in the state of Florida it's a very unique habitat and we have systematically in the state of Florida destroyed nearly 90 something 97 98% of gopher tortoise natural habitat I believe uh Miss Bosworth came up and because I was read again watching the the meeting and noted that traditionally they don't do well when they're relocate Um, I have I have some big concerns and I and listen, I'm I'm trying to be very structured and follow the right processes. And the right processes mean that now that we've gotten the county sign off, which again, I still have some questions that I would like to have answered related to how that was done with even the the temporary or the initial first reading. I I I feel like it's from what I'm hearing from residents, I feel like it's it's being pushed. And I have a question for Mr. Harrison. Mr. Harrison, I know it's been a while since we've had the consultants conversation, but have any consultants come before us today and spoken in favor of this project?

It's asking. No. Okay. as far as your as far as you know anybody affiliated with with one of our consultants. Right.

Okay. Thank you. Um I I I I would like to ask again. I think Mr. Mr. Roco was very generous in saying that he would take the time to within the next two weeks meet with a qu a a wildlife expert and have them do a a quick study at no cost to us by the way. Imagine that. A consultant for free. um who is who is state and federally licensed. Mr. Burman has assured me that he can also within two weeks get me the answers that I feel comfortable then moving forward or you know that I can make that I can make a truly informed vote based on professional opinion and other professional opinion and the granted access from Mr. Roco. So, we didn't skip the last one, but I would really, really encourage my fellow commission members to think about the spirit of working together in 2026 and ask yourselves if you would please find it in your heart to at least grant a two-eek extension related to something that is clearly so very important to me and the residents that I serve and other residents in other districts as well to give us two weeks to get the answers we need to be able to make an informed decision related to what is actually on that property and legal implications to make sure we are following the correct processes. So, I would make a motion that we just move and table this item to January 28th at 6 p.m.

motion to postpone till January 28th at 6 p.m. Is there a second? Second. And seconded by Vice Mayor. Discussion on the motion hearing. None. Let's go ahead and call the role. Commissioner FZI. Yes, Commissioner Perkins. No. Commissioner Sigerson Eaton. No. Commissioner Smith. No. Mr. Fornier. Yes. Harden. No. Commissioner Fess, you still have the floor.

Thank you. And that my final thing is I I can see where this is going. And I will like to state and make sure Kervin, if you would mind to please make sure that my objection um to all three of these items are is going to be verbatim noted verbatim in in the minutes. um that I strongly object and I would seek to get written legal opinion and written wildlife opinion for all three and that I objected to moving forward on each three please. Um that's all I have obviously um start 2026 off this way. Thank you. Very good. Further commission discussion?

Seeing none, let's go ahead and call the role. One moment to SC my notes. Commissioner Fezic. No. Commissioner Perkins. Yes. Commissioner Seagerson eaten. Yes. Commissioner Smith. Yes. Smith Forier. No. Hart.

Yes. Item 14 is the second reading of an ordinance. An ordinance of the city commission of the city of PMPO Beach, Florida, amending chapter 155, zoning code of the PMPO Beach code of ordinances by amending section 155 3505 transportation T to modify height, standard, setbacks, and tree mitigation areas and landscape requirements and by amending section 155.4207 vocational or trade school to permit the use in the transportation TZ zoning district providing for severability providing an effective date. So moved. Second. Moved and seconded for discussion. Once again, Miss Dolan.

Thank you, Mayor Commission. Gene Dolan, Development Services. So, this is a co zoning code text amendment for the transportation zoning district. So, when we were doing the other aspects of this project, uh we were looking at the zoning district and realized it it made no sense whatsoever. These regulations, this tabular format for the air park doesn't work at all. uh these setbacks are from the edges of the whole air park, not internal to parcels. And even though they say 25 feet in this table, there's a footnote that immediately changes it to 100. So it really made no sense at all. So instead, we rewrote it so that it actually pertains to how we actually review development on the air park. So we did that with a series of footnotes instead of using this tabular format. So, what we're doing with footnote number one is um all the lease parcels will be set back at least 100 feet from all the edges so that we'll have a 100 foot tree mitigation area around all the roads that are adjacent to the air park in order for to put the trees that we need to mitigate. So, we're not just going to go plow all these trees down and walk away. Every native tree will have to be mitigated and we'll do that around this perimeter. Um and that's where the people can enjoy it. But this actually codifies that so that we don't have to be negotiating with every future developer in this area about what they're going to plant, where they're going to plan it. Number two, um we clarified that the setbacks and heights on the parcels interior to the airport are determined by aviation engineers because there's vertical and horizontal controls all over the place. They're way more detailed than something that we would just be one height and one step back. So that's going to be controlled by aviation consulting engineers which is already how the process is actually done. Um footnote three specifies the landscaping requirements. So interior to

an airport you can't have a lot of trees where you have airport operations area because the airplanes have big wings and you can't put trees in the landscape islands and things like that where the airport the airplanes can't maneuver. So instead of losing all those trees, now we're establishing these 100 foot mitigation areas so that we can clearly say any tree that you're required to build or plant that can't be built because of the operation airport operation area, you'll be putting those trees in our mitigation area. So we won't be losing opportunities for more landscaping. And then the footnote for is just to clarify that drainage has to be provided on the lease parcel just because we had some history with that and we wanted to clarify it. And the other thing we're adding is just to make sure that we have um vocation and trade school as a permitted use uh in transportation. Interestingly, it wasn't even a permitted use. Um so we're just correcting that to make sure that we don't have any strange hiccups when when Bearington School comes forward. So our recommendations um we got our planning approval from the planning and zoning board unanimously back in January 22nd, 2025. The city commission voted to approve this on first reading on February 11th, 2025 and then postpone the second reading to be concurrent with this loopa and ESL map amendment. So that's why we're back now and staff recommends approval. I'm available to answer any questions you may have.

Very good. Thank you for that. This is a public hearing. Is there any any input from the public on this item? Seeing none public input closed. Commission discussion, questions, concerns. Commissioner Fessk. Um okay, quick question. I this if I remember correctly was related to the trees. Now it says the tree height and things along those lines. If we're since we're where we are with the environmentally sensitive land, am I correct to remember that an RFP went out for air park mitigation efforts earlier this year for last year? No air park mitigation efforts. No,

that for for we didn't. So we you're Mr. Mr. Harrison, would you know if that if we had a request for quotes or request for proposals for air park? I'm almost positive Earl, I think you sent us a bunch of stuff um related to selecting a contractor for bids for a um I think you may be confusing that with we asked for a proposal on an environmental study, right, which came back over $600,000 and nope. That's all I know about. Yeah, that's what if that's what you're referring to. Yeah. Oh, no.

No, that's not what it is. So, Mr. Mr. um Bosworth has been kind enough to give us regular updates on procurement processes and if I remember correctly, I remember seeing that one was coming forward to us and it was related to air park mitigation. If you remember correctly, I've done quite a bit of digging into procurement processes lately. So, I just wanted to question that. did we, you know, if if we did have that out um in advance of this being approved. Um so I would like an answer on that as well. Um I I if I remember correctly in the in the spreadsheet there was a there was a selected vendor and supposed to come before us in September or October, but I'll have to double check my memory. Yeah, you're talking about the cutting edge contract that was for to do the analysis of the um environmental and determine how many of those trees we needed to take out. It was an iterative process between the uh tree removal people and the environmental people and it it became in so expensive nobody could afford it in the budget. So I sent you a memo about that not too long ago. Okay.

So miraculously we we remembered we did have one. Okay. Um, I look, I I've I've heard residents literally feel like this is this is being pushed along and it's and it's um and I would say I fully agree with you and I and I I'm doing the best I can. Thank you. Very good. Further commission discussion. Commissioner Secret. I just have a question on page on uh I think it's four. It's the schematic and it's it's sort of difficult because these I have it on small screen and blowing it up things become sort of fuzzy. What is at the upper right hand corner that circular ovalesque

I don't know what you're looking at in terms of page four the next page of your presentation. Oh the presentation. I'm sorry. You're saying there's something so into the schematic nurse. I'm on I'm on item 14 and this is your presentation by staff transportation text amendment. All right. This I been wanting to ask this question all evening and I you know it's page four. One two three four. We're not on the same schematic. kind of on the same um in the back. Is it the Is it the is the staff report to planning and zoning? Yes. The staff report to planning and zoning parcel Y.

So what we I put that in there just to give you examples of how the planning is done in terms of where the setbacks are. That's a drainage area that you're talking about this parcel Y. Yeah, that's the drainage that's actually not within their parcel. And that's what add made us add a number that number four in the footnotes because that's not on their lease parcel and now they're using it for the drainage. So, okay, that was the reason we added that number four. That's that's what I need to know. Thank you. Sorry. That's all right. And it's very small. I couldn't blow it up enough to figure out exactly what it was. So, further commission discussion, Mr. Fess,

one last question. Is again quelling rumors. Um, is there any plan? Are there any plans or have there been any plans to expand the the runway with this using this process or or to expand the runway or expand um the size of the the planes coming through here at the air park? No. Okay. Thank you. We don't do anything with runways with planning and zoning, right? So, at the air park. Okay. And the air park's pretty landlocked. You can't expand the runways. Okay. Thank you. Very good. Further commission discussion? Seeing none, let's go ahead and call the role. Commissioner Fezic. Nope. Commissioner Perkins, yes. Sher Seerson Eaton, yes.

Sheriff Smith, yes. Vice Mayor Forier, yes. Harden,

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Heat. Heat. Hey. Hey. Hey. Back to order. PMPO Beach City Commission, January 13, 2026. Item 16 is

the first reading of an ordinance. An ordinance of the city commission of the city of PMPO Beach, Florida amending chapter 97 noise control of the code of ordinances by amending section 9760 noise disturbance to provide for alternative enforcement providing for severability providing an effective date. So moved second. Moved and second for discussion. Good. Let's still afternoon.

Well, good evening, good afternoon, mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission, Mr. Harrison and Mr. Burman. Jill Zillick with the city of city attorney's office. Actually, so this code amendment change is really to the penalty section of chapter 97, section 9760 dealing with noise disturbances. It's an amendment that's going to allow code enforcement to issue a citation for it's basically really loud music, but a noise disturbance where they can issue a citation and not just have law enforcement issue a notice to appear, which I'll explain. The reason this amendment came about is there's several problematic properties. It could be a residential, could also be commercial where the volume of the noise or the repetitiveness of it causes a disturbance to the neighbors in the community. The way the code is written right now only allows for law enforcement to respond and the way they can site is through what's called a notice to appear. But the notice to appear is a criminal charge which would be heard downtown in county court. So it's on a more serious level. The problem when BSO goes out though is identifying the actual person responsible for the noise. So the way this is written when code goes out, they can actually site the property and that's a significant change because then you can hold the property only responsible without trying to get into whether it's the husband, the wife, the child or whoever's responsible for it. But the also significance for this change is the citation is an immediate warning or an immediate fine. So the reason that's a better opportunity for the city is it opens up more opportunity for us to speak to the person on a level where it's civil now and it could be heard by the special magistrate. The fines are about $200 for the first

offense. It can go up to 500 and for repeat offense it would be 500. So basically in some this is adding code enforcement and not just law enforcement to go out and deal with the noise disturbance and code code directors here just in case there's questions about the code or the way the ordinance is written. Very good. All right. Well, thank you. This is a public hearing. Is there any input from the public on this item? Please come forward. Just name and address for the record.

And Bosworth, 4015 West Palmir Drive. I just want to take a me a minute to support something I know that my commissioner supports. Um we do have an issue on one side of our community and I am sure that is a great impetus for this. So please pass this because there are people in the neighborhood who are pretty upset. Um it's very unpleasant for them. I feel badly for the business because they're just doing what their business does, but there's also a whole neighborhood across the street that's getting pounded out of existence. So, um, it was just really for public agreement.

Very good. Further input from the public. Hi everyone, I'm Dennis Burnham, 2500 Northeast 9th Terrace. Um, you maybe know the name. I kind of kept you all a breast throughout 2025 in real time about the noise disturbances that I've had throughout the year and the previous three uh three years. I've actually logged 130 noise disturbances. Those noise disturbances have actually uh made me relocate within my home to another room just to avoid the base that penetrates my home. I have been trained to avoid my backyard um only go out there to let my dogs out. So I hope you all support this unanimously and I thank you for your support.

Thank you. Further input from the public. Seeing none public in public input close commission discussion. Vice Mayor Thank you, mayor. Uh, I thank you, Dennis, for your persistence. Um, I think you are a lot of the reason why this is happening today, but it will help so many residents in our city who struggle with these noise issues. Um, and this is we've talked about with Mario before, another tool in the toolbox to help him uh address these issues. And it takes some of the burden, I guess. I mean, it's still on VSO, but it it kind of gives us some other ways to to help them. So, I think this is um a good addition and I appreciate the work on it. Thank you,

Mayor. Commissioner Seerson Eaton.

Thank you. And yes, I also want to thank Dennis um lives in my community and and and by and large uh we all get noise complaints, right? And uh maybe they're oneoffs or they're two offs. you get the call, BSO goes out, they quiet their music and things seem to sort of settle down, but then it was very persistent. And I do want to thank you. It's a much needed change. And I also want to thank Mario and Jill and legal uh for for putting forth a out of the box think out of the box solution to this problem because we know it whether we live in a condo or an apartment or a single family house in Crest Haven we're all right we live in very close proximity and so a lot of people think that oh we can just blast our music to whatever volume we want until 11 o'clock. but that isn't the case. So, I would I asked Mario and Joe ahead of time it just to kind of give us a little bit of a recap of what our what our ordinance is and what it means and that no, you don't have the right to blast your music to 11 o'clock as loud as you want. And primarily we do have a lot of renters and they'll come home and they'll blast their music all evening long or every night for two or three hours and the neighbors subjected to it. So this and it's also with the Airbnbs. Uh, so if if you would and then I'll I'll have a couple of other things I'd like to say after Mario and Jill do a nice little recap sort of like a public service announcement so it's on the record so residents have a clear understanding of what this is about. Thank you.

And I I'll let Mario handle that. In the short answer to that though with the noise disturbance section, there is no limit on time. It's all day. It doesn't start at a certain time and end at a certain time and it also does not have anything to deal with decibel readings or decibel levels. But deeper than that, I will let Mario take.

Yeah. Thank you. Good afternoon, mayor, vice mayor, commissioners. Mario, city of Pmpo Beach, code compliance director. Um, yes. Uh, there is that myth out there that 11:00 or 10:00 is the cut off time for music. In fact, our ordinance has absolutely no regulation on that. uh a a noise disturbance can happen at 3 in the afternoon um or 11 o'clock that it's irrelevant uh the the levels the uh DBAs as they call technical term uh we use that for mechanical equipment when it comes to uh amplified music those numbers uh are not applicable. So we look at we look at how the music uh disturbs uh the victim if you will. Uh so if it's something that is uh a oneoff like you mentioned commissioner it happens one time we address it and it goes away and disappears. Uh this is really for those instances where the music happens every weekend and every weekend. Uh so we are we are confident that using the civil citation uh will help uh solve this problem. Um you know like they say hitting people in the pocket sometimes you know it gets the gets the m message across faster and it will avoid uh us bringing it to a special magistrate which is a very lengthy process. So this is a more immediate uh solution to the problem. If the person feels that we are wrong, uh there's always a special magistrate uh to fall back on, you know, we'll bring the case. We'll allow the m the magistrate to listen to the argument and then make a decision whether we are right or not. But uh as far as the action is more immediate than a regular court case.

Thank you, Mario. And also, mayor, I think that this is going to do a lot to protect the quality of life for our residents. Um very often I think people are sort of intimidated or coward or coward you know sort of you know their neighbors are not very friendly and they think they have the right and and you know people don't want to argue with them so it ends up being a very untenable situation many many many of the times I also am going to add to the mix just for everybody's contemplation is that we have sometimes special events and and very loud music coming from our parks, especially in my district. Uh, and and it is just over the top and I've been working with Scott Moore and Parks and Wreck and some of the problems situations we're having. So I will say this I am not going to I'm not going we have there has to be some control there has to be some limits because again uh the neighborhood is subjected to very very loud music and other things. Um and I think that I want to go the next step and try to explore some ways in which we can control that um for the community. All right. Thank you so much you guys. Thank you so much Dennis. We've become friends over the last year.

All right. Thank you, Mayor. Very good. Commissioner Fess,

thank you. Um I think Dennis, you made friends with everybody here on the commission. uh last year. Uh so um and and and rightfully so. you know, it's it's it's one of those things where sometimes, you know, like like Commissioner said, um it's a one-off and you know, it's just it's an un something that happens and in your instance, it has been a chronic issue and and I you've said like three three years or something now at this point and that and that's unfortunate because obviously quality of life does suffer and um I want to thank you for being so patient and being so kind with all of us because um and I want to because you really have helped to initiate the change that now all residents will benefit from. So I want to make thank you for your for your dedication to sticking staying the course on this. Um and and Mario and and Jill, you guys were amazing because also you did the same thing. We had conversations with BSO. I know how much effort you put into literally finding the way to to make this work legally and for residents, for VSO and for our codes. and and I just want to thank you for for also staying the course and finding this way that residents can finally see some relief. Um I know I have also gotten a lot of comments related to Airbnb properties. Obviously in my district there's quite a few of them and so we have noise violations quite a bit and um residents like to see speed in action and I think that's going to give us the power to do that and who knows you know if u it may end up being a a new revenue source for your department. Well, either way, we'll have some reprieve from from some noise. Thank you very much.

Very good. Further uh further commission discussion? Seeing none, let's go ahead and call the role. Commissioner Fez, yes. Commissioner Perkins, yes. Commissioner Seersonen Eaton, yes. Commissioner Smith, yes. Vice Mayor Fier, yes. Hart, yes. Item 17 is the first reading of an ordinance. Ordinance. An ordinance of the city commission of the city of Palm Beach, Florida, approving and authorizing the proper city officials to execute a service contract between the city of Palm Beach and Milo Electric Company for as needed repair and maintenance of electrical switch gears, providing for servability, providing an effective date. So moved. Second. Second for discussion. Good evening again, Miss Muhammad.

Renuk Muhammad, utilities director. Uh this briefing applies to it um 17, 18, and 19. Uh, the item before you is a request to approve three service agreements resulting from RFP25-010 as needed repair and maintenance of electrical switch gears to ensure the continued safe and reliable operation of the city's utilities electrical infrastructure supporting water and reuse treatment plants, the raw water wellfields, pumping stations, and other critical utility assets. The RFP was advertised on January 13, 2025, and it closed on February 4th, 2025. 10 proposals were received and evaluated based on qualifications and experience, cost, and local business participation. Although the top three firms were initially selected, one proposal was later disqualified due to non-disclosure of a corporate sale, resulting in the fourth ranked being evaluated. The resulting recommendation before you is for Miller Electric Company, Electric Power Switch Care, Inc. and Mills Electric Service, Inc. The initial term is three years with two one-year renewal option. Each agreement authorizes expenditures up to 150,000 per year on an as needed basis, not to exceed 450,000 over the initial contract term. Uh funding is available within the utilities operational and capital budget conclus.

Very good. Thank you for that. Uh this is a public hearing. Is there any input from the public on this item? Seeing none, public input closed. Commission discussion. Seeing none, let's call the role. Commissioner Fez, yes. Commissioner Perkins, yes. Commissioner Sigerson, yes. Commissioner Smith, yes. Vice Mayor Ponier, yes. Martin, yes. Number 18 is a first reading of an ordinance. An ordinance of the city commission of the city of PMPO Beach, Florida, approving and authorizing the proper city officials to execute a service agreement between the city of PMDome Beach and Electric Power Switch Gear Inc. for as needed electrical switch gear maintenance and repair services providing for severability providing an effective date. So moved. Second. Moved and second for discussion. Once again, Miss Muhammad.

Okay. Renuka Muhammad, utilities director. The previous briefing applies to this as well. Very good. Thank you for that. This is a public hearing. Is there any input from the public on this item? Seeing none, public input closed. Commission discussion. Seeing none, let's call the role. Commissioner Fez, yes. Commissioner Perkins, yes. Commissioner Seigen, Eaton, yes. Commissioner Smith, yes. M Forier, yes. Harden.

Yes. Item number 19 is the first reading of an ordinance. An ordinance of the city commission of the city of PMPA Beach, Florida, approving and authorizing the proper city officials to execute a service agreement between the city of Palm Beach and Mills Electric Service, Inc. for as needed electrical switch gear maintenance and repair services providing for servability providing an effective date. So moved. Second. Moved and second for discussion. Once again, Miss Mohammed. All right. Renuka Muhammad, utilities director. The previous briefing applies to this as well. Very good. Thank you for that. This is a public hearing. Is there any input from the public on this item? Seeing none, public input closed. Commission discussion. Seeing none, let's call the role. Commissioner Fezik, yes. Commissioner Perkins, yes. Commissioner Sigson, Eaton, yes. Commissioner Smith, yes. Vice Mayor Fier, yes.

Harden, yes. Item 20 is the first reading of an ordinance. An ordinance of the city commission of the city of Palm Beach, Florida, approving and authorizing the proper city officials to execute a service agreement between the city of PMPA Beach and Caris LLC for the purchase of corrosion control chemicals, providing for severability, providing an effective. So moved. Second. Moved and second for discussion. Once again, Miss Mohammed.

Okay. Renuka Mohammed, utilities director. The item before you is a request to approve a service contract for Caris LLC for the soul source purchase of Aquedine SK 7641, a corrosion control inhibitor that is required to maintain compliance with the EPA lead and copper rule. The department has successfully used this proprietary BL B blend since 2007 and the operational and regulatory monitoring have demonstrated that it is the only product to date that consistently stabilizes water quality and ensures continuous regulatory compliance. Previously uh the utility had evaluated alternative products but results were inconsistent and risk of non-compliance was evident. In accordance with Florida statute, the single source procurement process was advertised from July 21st through August 5th and there was no equivalent products identified. The proposed contract term is 5 years with annual expenditures not to exceed the amount within the utilities operating budget. Uh approval of this agreement supports the city's strategic and comprehensive plan goals ensuring continued safe safe delivery of highquality drinking water to the community. Very good. Thank you. This is a public hearing. Is there any input from the public on this item? Seeing none, public input closed. Commission discussion.

Seeing none, let's call the role. Commissioner Fez, yes. Perkins, yes. Commissioner Sigerson Eaton, yes. Commissioner Smith, yes. Vice Mayor Pornier, yes. Hart, yes. Item 21 is discussion consideration item for the annual performance evaluation for Mr. Mark E. Berman, city attorney. Miss Seneago, turn it over to you.

Lisa Senego, human resources director. Uh, this is the item for performance evaluation discussion and any related uh, pay changes. Any changes would be effective uh, September 18 of 25. And for some market and historical information of 12 comparable regional city attorneys, Mr. Burman's pay is at 75th percentile. Uh he has 10 years as city attorney and uh 30 years you with the city and 3 and a half% cola was granted on 10125 for all employees and all the officials. You have oversight of four officials the clerk, city manager, city attorney and city auditor. And general employee merit increase ability is the ability to receive two to four percent for their merit which is what this is would be uh similar to as a merit aspect. Your four officials we just named in recent three years have been awarded merit increases along the lines of zero three 5% and Mr. Burman has received 5% in 24 three and 23 and 3% in 22. Just some information.

Very good. Thank you for that. All right. Who wants to lead off discussion? Nobody. Commiss. Commissioner Seagerson Eden.

All right. I'll jump in there. Mark. So, uh, yeah. Um so um I'm married to an attorney and uh when you you're married to someone for 20ome years, you do learn a lot about h how the law works. Um I wouldn't call myself a lawyer by any stretch of the imagination. And sometimes the old adage where a little knowledge is a very dangerous thing comes into play when I'm having discussions with my husband. Uh but I I I want to say that it is no it is not a job that we uh would take lightly. Uh and it's a very particular uh form of um law and responsibility. Um Mark and his team have to know every element of law. everything that the city deals with, everything that the commission deals with, whether it's like today with the FAA, whether it's roads, drainage, um, environmental sensitive lands, etc., etc. Um, and they have to be right and they have to know it. It's a I say it's a it's a very big job with a lot of responsibilities. And I would have to say that in my eight years as an elected official, I've been very felt very confident and I felt very protected there ethics laws that we all have to deal with, especially as we go through elections, you know, and there consequences to not following those rules, etc., etc. And I also want to say that Mark and his team has over the years had the foresight to get involved in some of the for

example the P PA pas uh litigation, some of the uh drug uh drug rel litigation that has garnered us dollars in order to do to do programs and to mitigate some of those costs. to the city and and to our our residents. Um, so, you know, I I take all that in consideration. It's a big job and I think we've been very uh adept. He's been very adept and his team's been very adept. He's been a leader of that team. Um, so I think he's doing a great job. Um, I'll end with that. Thank you, Mayor.

Very good. Um, well, I I'll chime in. Yes. I I Mr. Burman, I think you've done a wonderful job. Keep it up. Um, I mean that is your job, but I would go ahead and make a motion that we uh award a 3% u merit increase at this point in time. Keeps you uh not not top the class perhaps, but uh you know a little above 75%. Um I know you wouldn't turn it down if you got it right. No, for a minute I was thinking I should be paid by the question, but So I' I'd make that motion. I would appreciate any consideration. Thank you, Mayor. Second. I'll second that motion. Okay. It's been moved and seconded for a 3% merit increase. Discussion on the motion.

Vice Vice Mayor.

Thank you. Uh, as always, I have real concerns about our budget and every little bit matters and this year in particular, I'm very concerned with the risk of property tax legislation that might be coming uh coming at us. Um, I do appreciate that you are always available, Mark. um whether I call you after a meeting or on a weekend, you always make yourself or your staff available to answer my questions and I appreciate that. Um at the same time, I have had some struggles I would say um getting what I view as um clear independent answers relative uh to the other side of the fourth floor. So, um I think as always I want to just remind you that you work for this body and um and I appreciate that you spend a lot of time with your colleagues there, but you work you work for the commission and um it needs to be independent of the other side of the fourth floor and the agenda that might be being pushed there that is not always aligned with what each one of us up here feels. And I know that's a very difficult job. We are a very divided commission right now. I can't imagine what it would be like to try to make everybody um happy and answer all their questions without upsetting anyone. So, I don't really wish that on anyone. Um but this year I um I just think three and a half% cola raises are, you know, that that covers increase in inflation and everything else and which is actually down this year fortunately a little bit. But um I am um not going to support an an increase this year. Thank you.

Very good for the commission discussion. I've got Okay. I've got Commissioner Fess then Commissioner Perkins.

I'm gonna let Mer. Thank you. I have a different take and I think um when it comes to our city attorney everybody has we all have a different um opinion on how we're being treated or respected I guess you should say. However, I've been toalling with this for two years, and I know we voted last year for the increase. And the thing that sticks with me the most with the city attorney um that I let slot in 2005 is when we when he presented to us the contract for the new downtown for the master developer that still hangs over my head and I've had you know several of my attorney friends to read over that and you've never seen anything like it and for it to pass his desk. Although I know he was not you were not the actual attorney that drafted it. However, you did you you read it and it had to come before us and I've been tolling with that ever since 2004 to be honest. Um but at this point um

yeah 2024 I'm sorry 2024. Um, so I'm I'm sometime I have to wonder, does the city attorney have our back? But I do understand that you work in city hall on the full floor and you want to be able to get along with your colleagues. I get that. I respect that. Um, however, I've really never felt comfortable calling him for anything because I feel like everybody will know. So, I just call the ethics department if I have problems or concerns. I feel more comfortable doing that that way. Uh rather than go through the the city attorney, but I would like to think that I feel secure that that the city attorney will have our backs here on the dis. But that's not what I'm being shown. It it shows that he he works very well with staff and and that's clear. There's nothing wrong with that because you got to work with everybody in order for the city to work. But on the level of of my opinion and my interpretation and talking with him, that's just my my way of thinking. I just don't feel as though the city attorney is really protecting the commission or me, I should say. Let me just speak for myself because some of, you know, some of us he he is doing that. Um, but at this time, I would not support uh an increase. Um, but I'm looking forward to possibly building a better um, business relationship together. That's it. Thank you.

Very good, Commissioner Fess.

Thank you. First of all, go Eagles. And um, look, I I h I came into a situation and um, and I will have to say that, you know, initially and and ongoing whenever I have questions, Mark, you are you are there and you answer them. you absolutely respond with with humor and you understand that that is also a love language of mine. Um we can laugh at each other and we can laugh at our own at ourselves and I'm and I appreciate that. But when it comes time to being serious many times I would say that you you when I ask a very specific question I thank you for giving me a very specific answer and I want to make sure that that is noted first and foremost. Um I I feel like in some situations I I have to agree a little bit with um Commissioner Perkins and with Vice Mayor in that you're put in a between a rock and a hard place a lot of times because some of the things that do fall under your you know your your purview if you will overall is making sure that everything else runs like a welloiled machine and then you on top of that you have to deal with internal office politics and external commission politics and I understand that that is that is a difficult role to play um one thing so I don't like to I don't like to dwell on on anything that's negative. I look instead to look at I I actually have in my office a thing that looks like a crumpled up piece of paper that's framed and it says failures and the failures is crossed out with a red pen and underneath it says opportunities. So I don't look at I look at performance review is simply this. Let's look at opportunities how we've maybe identified ways that didn't essentially work in a couple just in a couple of instances and work to make them better moving forward. Um some some there were only a couple of things this year that I feel like I would like to see done better in this following year. Um, we had some major concerns with the propaganda pieces I think is what we was

what was generally kind of called and and using of of funds, taxpayer funds for supporting projects that are CRA and city-led or, you know, somehow grown together. And in many cases, some of those things cross the line from being neutral fact-based material and into more of a politically slid in one direction and and biased. Um, for that I would like to see us really kind of lock down in terms of process moving forward and make sure that we try to try our best to present both views and try our best to not have feel like residents and that's because residents have come to me and said that um it's not just something that I feel um make sure that we are doing things with the most amount of neutrality as possible and and and truly making sure that we hold our um and it's not your job to hold staff accountable of that, but it but if it's going to go out and it has the city of PMPO Beach on it and it's a it's a document that's in front of people, I would really like to be able to have um our city manager make sure that you're working with that to make sure at some point in time if there's any sort of question that you're at least consulted or somebody on your staff is consulted. Um other thing the other thing that I think I' I you know we we have lots of different contract issues and again in some cases the question has come up can we can we to try to do make sure that we self-reflect or or readress things because when you're in a place and I understand again when you're in a place for a long time and you are familiar with many of the people you work with and have a good working relationship with them a lot of times you you have a great working relationship ship and you take people at their word or you know and and in some cases sometimes being comfortable lends itself to missing small details. So this it's not there's no blame applied on this one. It's just simply that I'd like to see if we can make sure that we cross our tees

and dot our eyes. I'm just and I'm referencing like uh earlier was it the contractors that we had to we had to fix the CRA uh consultant things and make sure that you guys were communicating to make sure that it was in fact to the benefit of the city. So that those are just they're little things that that that um I think we can like I said opportunities to do slightly better. Um the last thing is probably the most important to me. Um I think vice mayor said it uh in terms of making sure that you know the the duty who you know who you work for essentially and I don't really want to say it like that but yes we are you know you are one of the four people that we oversee but really we and we worked for the residents and and you work for the residents as well and so I'd like to really make sure that we stay resident focused on uh on things moving forward and make sure that every contract that comes across your desk the question has asked and maybe we just, you know, I'll get you a mug if you want. Um, but just, you know, does this does this truly serve residents first? Um, or does this serve city interests or or something? So, just a just a checkpoint memo. Um, the last thing is is and it is the last. There have been a couple instances this year where um let's just talk about September because I'm just going to go right there. I mean, and and I want to thank you for back actually back in July your assistance in trying to figure out how things happened when they unfolded. In September when I when I did try to attend um the meetings remotely, I went through a a large pro long process with Kervin. I I was kind enough to meet with Sandra King. I was on the phone and there were extenduating circumstances and I explained them and to staff and I had to sit instead not being able to to defend myself for over 18 minutes while my name was being dragged through the mud and my motives were questioned. And so I what I'd like to see is that if the mayor is not doing his job in terms of maintaining decorum, I would like for

you to start to speak up so that we don't look like a circus here because it's not doing us any good to have this continued behavior. I don't like to have to I don't I don't do this to argue. I I do this to ask questions and I don't like being silenced. I don't like being being humiliated or attempted to be humiliated. I wasn't because I knew I was right. um and and accusations that are put into a public record that are untrue and I had no and without the decency to have me be able to defend myself. So with that said, I would like to see us move forward together and better, which is what I was trying to beg for in terms of 2026 and and I would appreciate your assistance in making sure that we do that. And if we are not meeting that mark, any of us, not just one person or the other. Um, and that includes behavior up here, comments muttered under people's breaths or in that I that I have to deal with and I've had to deal with. And I'd like to just mention that, you know, some knowledge and a willingness to to prepare rather than lie rely on others opinions is always welcome. And I think every attorney knows this. Trust but verify. So, um, I thank you for your work. I I I don't know. I feel like with all of the extra costs we've had coming through and the the the budget restrictions, I don't know that this is the time to basically say to say to everybody, hey, I think we should just blanketly blanket approve additional um percentages. Not that it's not warranted, but I know that you um you have a a very uh healthy salary and and I and I and I thank you for that. And I think maybe if we can trim the fat somewhere else over the following year, then I would love to see us be able to give you a larger percentage in the following year. Thank you.

Further commission discussion. Commissioner Smith,

I just want to say thank you, Mark, because my whole year, anytime that I had doubts of anything, you were right there to answer my questions. Anytime I emailed you, you responded. I've always felt that you've communicated well in any of the written documentation presentations here at um to the commission, and I always feel that you have my back. So, I want to thank you for that. I I support the 3%. I see how it's going up here tonight. But I just want you to know that you are appreciated in your knowledge that you share with us that at the drop of a a hat whenever we ask, you're right there for us and I I appreciate what you do for us. Thank you.

Very good. The commission discussion none. Let's go and call the role in a motion. Commissioner Fez. Commissioner Perkins. No. Commissioner Seigerson Eaton. Yes. Smith. Yes. Vice May Forier. No. Harton. Yes. Okay. Thank you, Mark. All right. Moves on to additional audience to be heard. No. No additional audience to be heard.

Very good. Thank you for that. Our next scheduled meetings are January 27th, 2026 at 6 p.m. It's a regular city commission meeting followed by February 10th, 2026 at 1 p.m. a regular city commission meeting. Takes us up to reports. Mr. Harrison, sir, um Denise, put these on each of your seats here at the Dis. This is a clean No, we didn't get them. Didn't get it. Oh, you didn't get this? No. All right. Well, I guess I have it then. You want to know what it is? Yeah, it's your report. Tell us.

It is a clean streets announcement on January 15th in uh Crest Haven. So, all day January 15th, our uh environmental services department will be out there cleaning the streets. Very good. Press Haven. And Scott, did you get this? Yes. Yes. All right. So, Yeah.

5050 here. So Scott Scott put these the two on tops the nautical flea market, the annual nautical flea market January 17th to 18th. And then there's one, two, three, four uh different events in connection with the Martin Luther King Day uh this year. And um Captain Ryan, you come up here, please. Captain Ryan has an announcement that he would like to make. Okay.

Uh thank you, Mr. Harrison. Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commissioners. It's my privilege to introduce you to my friend and colleague and your new uh Area 1 captain, Captain Shondaanda Martin. All right. And last but not least, her successor who uh served in the city as a sergeant. Um, he's joining us as uh as a lieutenant from the Criminal Investigations Division, Lieutenant Armando Deastines. Right. They'll tell you how to spell it. All right. Thank you, Captain. Now, congratulations, Shannon and Lieutenant Marc.

You're going to have to give me a minute to be able to pronounce that right every time. Thank you. All right, that concludes my report, Mayor. Very good. Thank you, Mr. Harrison. Mr. Burman, city attorney. Thank you. Um, first of all, happy new year. Thank you for your kind words and also for your consideration. And I have nothing further. Thank you. Very good. Mr. Alfred, city clerk. A report. A report takes us up city commission. Commissioner Fessk.

Thank you. Um, just a a note. Um, I I mentioned I know earlier today we had an audience to be heard. there was a a gentleman that came and and asked us to review the tiki other cities what other cities have been done and so Mr. Mr. Harrison, if you wouldn't mind, I would love to see that um see some sort of information provided to us to see what other cities have done to see if we're missing the marker for if we're still comparable um in terms of tiki restrictions, etc. And um just see if we can maybe refine that to be more in favor of residents or bring something back. Um I am I have a one concern that that I think that Mr. Harrison and maybe you can explain this to me too. U do we have a schedule? I think we we asked for a meeting related to RMA and the CRA at some point and just basically how we're all working together. This is and this is said specifically in the spirit of cooperation and collaboration. I part of my New Year's resolution, if you will, was to make sure that we came to this meetings every day, you know, every time we come and truly try to find compromise and we've been saying that, but it hasn't been happening. And so, I know we have a I know we had asked to have a workshop and I we just don't have a date on it yet. Um, do we have can you give me a a timeline of when we can expect that so we can plan moving forward?

So, help me out. You're saying a workshop between CRA and RMA and

was we were just to discuss you know the cons the whole thing that we were talking about was discussing consultants RMA the CRA projects to basically have a workshop where we can come together and so we're not so offensive or or stat yeah just or just long winded or feels I want us to have an open collaboration of some kind so that we can actually come here because the only time we can have conversations is in a public forum and I know that we had expressed an interest multiple times in having a workshop of some kind and it just has not materialized and I I don't want to waste time. I'd like to make sure that we we we sort of hit this on the head coming out of the gate and and have that discussion. Okay. Well, I mean

I don't either. Okay. I'm sorry. But then if you would uh if you wouldn't mind u talk to Audrey and let's talk about it and try to figure it out. Okay. How how about this? because I feel like this is that when we get in the situation, a lot of times it's let's talk it out and then it just doesn't materialize. So, what I'd like to do is just make a motion that we schedule a public workshop within 45 days to review the scope, involvement, oversight of RMA and all city and CRA consultants, including marketing firms, communication partners, subcontractors, and any affiliated entities with required disclosures of conflict of interest, property ownership, revenue sources, and ties to any city or CRA initiatives. Is that a motion?

It was. Yes, that was. It was exactly stated as such. Okay, there's a motion on the floor. Is there a second? Second. Okay. Moved and seconded to uh have a workshop based upon what uh Commissioner Fess just read, which I'm sure she can give that to Mr. Alfred if uh if need be. Um so, it's been moved and seconded. Discussion on the motion. Yes. So,

sure. the purpose is to um I guess you say have better communication. Is that what you're saying? And well, I'm just trying to better understand it because where I'm concerned when it comes to the consultants is contracts and how they're written, who write them. Is there a major is it one big contract everybody uses or is it just itemized for a particular person? So, I'm just trying to you I don't want to have a workshop if it's not going to be effective. And if you if you're not more specific, I'm sure staff is going to take it in a different direction, right?

So, you need to be very specific as to what you want the workshop to be about.

So, I I'll repeat it because I have a tendency to speak fast. So, I'll make sure that I do it again and hopefully I will provide it to Kurban as well. So, um, it's a motion to schedule a public workshop within 45 days to review the scope, involvement, and oversight of RMA and all city and CRA consultants, including marketing firms, communications partners, subcontractors, and affiliated entities with required disclosures of conflict of interest, property ownership, revenue sources, and ties to any city or CRA initiatives. It it is very specific and there's a reason for it and I I'll get into that if you if you'd like later.

Do I Commissioner Perkins? Okay. So, yeah, I agree with a lot that you have there, but I think we need to Can I Can you read it? Sure. If she passed it to you, you can read it. I didn't have I don't have multiple comment, but just Yeah. But I think so. Here's the let me let's if you if you allow me I'll I'll explain it a little bit. Mr. Perkins, would you like Okay, but but but wait. Okay, you said CRA and all city CRA consultants including marketing firms, communication. Let's just start with one group. Okay, that's fine.

Rather than go through all of this, we have a room full of people. This is says communication partners, subcontractors. Well, I was so I was being specific because you have as as many people have said to me before here. If you don't say it, sometimes doesn't happen, right? So I so I try to be as specific because here's the thing is I don't even know what we call people. Sometimes I don't even know who has new contracts and and I think that that's part of it, right? So maybe it just starts off as a very casual conversation. It can be loose. If you have questions like you don't know anything about contracts and you want answers, I'd like to be able to have a workshop where we are able to discuss these concerns so that we don't pile them into these long they don't they don't it doesn't compound into these long meetings. Right. If we're able to have a workshop most other commissioner most other commissions other cities have a workshop at least once a month.

Okay. My suggestion would be let's start with the first two you have here. Let's start with the CRA contracts and the marketing firms. Yeah. All right. I will amend my I'll amend my motion as such then. Okay. The motion's been amended to just include CRA consultants and marketing firms. Yes, city and CRA consultants and marketing. Yeah. I'm sorry, what was that? City and CRA consultants including marketing firms. Okay. So, and I'll second.

That's been seconded. Okay. So, it's been moved and seconded to hold a workshop based upon CRA consultants and city and CRA consultants and marketing firms. Okay. Um, further Okay. Discussion on the motion. further discussion.

I'm I mean I I'm I'll just be honest with you. I'm going to vote against it. Um I don't see any point in in spending a bunch of time if somebody wants to see any contracts for our CRA consultants or CRA marketing firms or city consultants and city marketing firms that are employed by the city or retained by the city. I mean, all you have to do is ask for them. And I and I would also point out that you don't have to do a public records request to get the information. I know some people I mean it's poor Kervin over there. He's he's spending the national debt responding to public records requests by some folks who sit up on the on the deis here and it's it's not necessary. I mean it's like you could just ask staff for this information. Um, I know some people will probably say, "Well, no, that's not true because I've asked for this and I haven't gotten it." But well, so anyway, that's just that's just my my feelings and that's uh but I'm done. So, further discussion on the motion got vice mayor.

Oh, go ahead.

I'm just going to briefly disagree. Um, shocker. Uh uh so yes we individually can get contracts but there is never an opportunity for this board to discuss with each other what we think of a contract or what or to publicly ask collaboratively what is this person doing and why are they doing it instead of city staff doing it why do we need them how long do you think we're going to need these services that is something that I I think we've all had questions about and it's important important to ask that collaboratively so we can then discuss with each other and we can also get the same answers because sometimes I think we all get slightly different answers maybe because we're asking questions slightly differently but it there's a benefit to us being together and learning this together and going through that process together.

Thank you. Very good. Further discussion on the motion. Yes, mayor. I

Yeah, I think um the commissioners. There are three of us up here that don't receive information as the other three. And some of us are requesting information based on the fact that we just want knowledge and want to know what's going on. Whereas I'm sure you don't fit in that category. So you work well with staff. Staff work well with you. You get what you need. They tell you what you need to do what you need to know. We're not in that predicament. three of us. So, I can understand why you would feel that way because some of us feel foreign in this city sometime. And I've always said to I even say to my community when I walk in that fourth floor building, everything in there is against me pretty much. But I have a job to do and I stay focused. But that's because there's lack of communication. Um my lash coming off. There's a lack of communication with staff and certain commissioners and it just takes it doesn't take a whole lot to to all of this going on up here. Really doesn't take a lot to put it all together and work together with staff. We just have people in the positions that do not know how to do it. It's easy for me, but I'm just a commissioner. There's there's a very easy way to handle that fourth floor or that city hall and this staff. It can be done easy. It's not being done. And we continue to bicker and look like we don't care or like each other up here. And it's really about some of us are getting information and some of us are not. Some of us want to know certain things and we're just not inside the loop to know it. So, you're one of those privileged ones, mayor, and maybe one day we'll get there. But right now, three of us sitting up here are not there yet, but we're working on it. Let's start with the workshop. That might be a start.

Thank you. Very good. Further discussion motion. Commissioner Fessic.

Thank you. So I the reason I'd like that it it warrants conversation just simply because or understanding. So I don't I have I will say that when I have asked staff or have been have asked Mr. comparison to answers to questions. Many times I am able to immediately get a meeting with staff members. However, sometimes and and if anybody has been a teacher or a parent, you know that sometimes your children or or that you that you or your colleagues, you understand that people operate in different ways and they they process information in different ways. I don't want to waste staff's time sitting with them and asking stupid questions when I can read all the documentation myself and then come back with questions. So it that that's how I and I like to be in my own space and in my own head, make notes and then research, see if I could even need to come back to them to ask the questions. I feel like their time is more valuable than that. As to the the public records request, I was told multiple times by Mr. Harrison that if I wanted that information, he would get me some of it, but additional information needed to be made through a public records request. So I have complied. Um and uh and Kervin will be probably proud to tell you that I haven't had one to send to him for quite for a little bit. Um, so

yeah. So I mean

it is, isn't it? So um, anyhow, like so this is truly and like I said, this is truly meant in the spirit of collaboration and not in not in some underhanded sort of, you know, snide commentary. It is truly meant to attempt to have open conversations so we can we can get something that's bothering us. like maybe something's happening in your district that that you really care about and and you like or didn't like how something was happening and you want to have the opportunity to sort of voice that before it be so that maybe we can bring it back to be an agenda item and then it's not going to be one that's contentious. It's going to be one that we've already sort of voiced our our thoughts or we bring some concerns that are at some point maybe we open this up to different workshops where we're able to put something on the agenda that we have our time and it's not jammed into the very end of a meeting, a very long meeting. you have some time to actually bring some concerns and see if other districts have the same concerns. This is meant to be truly the first step in potentially working together and finding ways to work not only with city manager or city attorney but have a collaborative effort to to to do better in 2026. That that is my intent. Thank you.

Very good. Further commission discussion? Seeing none, let's go ahead and call the role on the motion. Commissioner Fez. Yes. Commissioner Perkins. Yes. Commissioner Seigerson Eaton. No. Commissioner Smith. No. Forier. Yes. Harden. No. Okay. Before. Thank you. What else I got? What else you got?

Not that much. And thank you. I still have the floor. I What I would like is actually a written I would like uh from the city attorney a written opinion on some of how we've been applying Robert's rules willy-nilly from the mayor. And I would like I would like everything cited. I'm getting I I I have I am I truly came here with the intent to make the best of a happy new year and I am going to continue with that attitude. I will say that if this continues, I will definitely be seeking other opinions. Um with that said, I uh am having a coffee and conversations tomorrow. Oh no, sorry, not tomorrow. Thursday morning at How You Brewing and that is from 9 to 10. It's basically just those I'm just going to hang out at how you run probably longer from than 10 o'clock because that generally happens. Um but I will be there and if you have any concerns or questions that you want to ask or or you have something that you want to talk about and you would just rather have an inerson conversation I am there to I just want to make myself available to residents and um I will be doing the coffees. Um, again, they they don't seem to do very well during the summer months because we lose a lot in district one of of sort of people being wanting wanting to walk around and be be out and um out and about. So, that I will be doing those pretty much through spring. And of course, I will also have later this month an announcement for um our second district another district meeting. So, thank you very much. Happy New Year and we'll do see you in a week.

Very good. Commissioner Perkins.

Thank you, Mayor. Uh, first I wanted to um thank our parks and wreck director Scott for putting together these upcoming events. This is very very helpful to me. Um, it's just everything that's going on in parks and wreck is on this paper here and that that helps out a lot and I do know we receive emails but this is very helpful. I can just put this on the wall and we probably need to consider doing something like this for our culture arts department. That would be great as well. Um, I wanted to thank the residents in the northwest for being patient for the construction and the work being done on Northwest 6th Avenue. Um, the roundabouts have already been removed and the contractor has assured me that we should be done and completed by the end of this month. So, they are moving right along. I was very surprised. Um, Mr. the city manager. I I was walking knocking on the doors on 6th Avenue and I'm like, I know these neighbors are really upset because of all this construction. They all say they they loved it. They embraced it because they said a lot of cars were not flying by and passing. They can sit in their yards at night and just be at peace. So, I would like to ask, excuse me, BSO, if you would look into perhaps putting some speed humps closer to 6th Avenue where Blanch Chile High School is located. The reason that there there are no speed humps there is because I was told by one of the excuse me, by one of your officers that we could not put speed humps near a school. And I found out from the school board that's not true. They prefer them near the schools. So, we can consider putting the speed humps. And that's just as you pass over the railroad track uh at Elie High School going south. I think those neighbors would appreciate if there were some speed humps there. Although, I know

we're getting the speed tables put in, but those neighbors that are complaining about the fast traffic, I think that'll be helpful to them. Um the last thing I want to bring to uh your attention is everybody is talking about we've been talking about timing of the commissioner meetings for a while. Um, so I remember back in the 80s and 90s, I think commissioner meetings were at nine in the morning and then I remember when I first got elected, um, we had commissioner meetings and then if we didn't finish, we had to come back the next morning. You remember that?

That was very hard for me, but we tried that as well. So I'm wondering how do we feel if we can change because a lot of people are working. I remember when this came about, commissioner, I don't know if he was the commissioner and vice mayor, but it was Barry Moss who said he wanted to change the meetings to one o'clock because the residents in Palm Air are older and they want to come and attend commissioner meetings and I've been waiting on them for a while. So, I would really like for us to consider if not even going back to a six o'clock, maybe a five o'clock meeting because we don't want to be in a commissioner meeting late. And we do know that um some of our meetings are five hours. Um maybe a little bit longer sometime, but

five and a half right now.

Five and a half. Okay. So, what if we all of our meetings start maybe five o'clock every day? I mean, every Tuesday. And those people that are working, at least it gives them at least 30 minutes to an hour to get here. But I'm trying to weigh it where we're not here 11 or 12:00 at night. Um, but I think the residents will be happy. I don't I don't think we need like a survey or anything like that because we know what they're saying. We we're listening. Um, and just make it convenient. For me, it's safer 1:00 in the morning, but it's not for the residents. I think the residents would rather we have later meetings than earlier meetings. So, with that, I'd like to make a motion that we move all of our city commissioner meetings to five o'clock p.m. um starting the month of February.

Second. Seconded. Any feedback on have anything to say or Yes, go ahead. I was about to ask about to ask that. We've got a motion to move all of our meetings to 5:00 pm. um all of our city commission meetings to 5:00 pm beginning the month of February. Yes. And it's been seconded. That was by Commissioner Perkins, seconded by I believe Vice Mayor and I believe Commissioner Fac, although we just need one discussion on the motion. I believe Vice Mayor.

Thank you. Yeah, we're five and a half hours in here. So, I do think we have to be careful with how late we we move this because we've been going late, too. But I I I made this motion it had been a year ago to move them both to six and it failed. So, I'm hoping I'm hoping yours is the sweet spot. Maybe maybe you've hit something that that didn't work last year. Thank you. Very good. Further commission commissioner secrets need. Well, I was just going to say I I'd like to think about it. So, I'm not going to vote in favor of it because I'd like to think about it because we constantly are making these motions, change the meeting, constantly failing, and I I'm I'm not I'm not going to I need time to think about it. So, I'm going to be a no on this.

Very good. I I believe Mr. Burman wants to chime in and tell us that tell us that the we have to change this by ordinance. Correct. Resolution. Resolution. No. Okay. That's good. So So your your motion would be to put a resolution on the next agenda to start all of our meetings at 5:00 in in February. Okay. Yes. That was that was the motion. You could tell.

Further discussion on the motion. We got Commissioner Smith. the um the reason that um Commissioner Moss originally suggested changing to a one o'clock so that because there's a lot of older people that don't drive at night. So, if we're going to consider alter um changing to alternative times, why don't we look at having a 9 in the morning to five o'clock? Just something to consider instead of one and six because here we started at one and we're going to be going home in the dark already. So I agree with Commissioner Seagerson and Eaton is I would like to to think about it and maybe talk to some people that don't come to meetings that only watch it on on video and find out what they would attend to and and I I how many people actually watch but don't come? I think the only ones that come are those that want to talk. So I think we need to think about it. So maybe make the resolution next meeting when we've had a chance to think about what fits.

All right. Thank you. That's just my two I I think I've got Commissioner Fess. Go ahead.

One. So So I thanks to Mr. Burman. Um what he just said is it would be the motion had was amended so that we have until next meeting to if it's on the agenda, we get to discuss it and make the decision at that point in time. So that gives you two weeks to think about it um and and consult your constituents, your residents and um and come back with an opinion. So you have two weeks to think about it and you can say no at that point if you're not comfortable or if if you're not comfortable and you want to make a motion at that point to push it out again, we can do that. But if it's in order to make a decision, we have to get something on the agenda. We have to move something forward. So with the two-eek window um I would fully support this because I think residents have been asking for a long time and we keep trying to find ways to work this and I think in combination even though this particular motion failed I think looking at a general workshop in general at some point down the line another another day another another conversation will help to alleviate the length of our meetings because we'll have a lot of that crazy conversation out of the way. That's all. Thank you.

Very good. Commissioner Perkins. Thank you ma'am. Yes I I hear too the commissioner saying they'll think about it and it's

I found it it's just strange that no one in your district has ever said anything about the timing of the meeting and as I stated earlier ever since Barry Moss made that statement I have not seen the residents yet. So to speak on his behalf I don't know his motivation for doing that. Well it depends. I might see them two or three times a year, but not on a consistent basis coming to a meeting. I'm saying now if we had a bus load of people coming from the bus or something like that, that's different. We wouldn't want to change it for them. But I'm listening to the residents and it's just not a good time 1:00 in the middle of the day. So, I just think if we go back to five o'clock, I think that'll work. Um, when you say you got to think about it, I guess that's a time to strategize with why we should go your way. However, that works.

Anyway, that's it. So, we'll have it on the next meeting at the next meeting agenda. Let's we can vote on further further discussion on the motion. I'm asking a question. Are we going to have the resolution to vote? We have to vote. Oh, okay. That's what I'm trying to get to a vote. Further discussion on the motion hearing. None. Okay. Let's go ahead and vote. Commissioner Fez, yes. Commissioner Perkins, yes. Commissioner Seerson Eaton, no. Commissioner Smith, no. But I do think we could do further discussion, but I'm going to turn turn that down tonight. That's forier. Yes.

Harden. No, you still have the floor, Mr. Commissioner. All right. So, I I think that's it with my report. I just wanted to wish everybody a happy happy happy new year and I'm hoping that this year will be a lot better for the commissioners sitting on this dis and city hall so that we could all work together. I'm willing to do that. I'm open to do that. Um hoping everybody's the same way as well. So anyway, happy holidays. I'm glad everybody enjoyed Christmas, Thanksgiving, and thank God we're back.

Very good. Commissioner Seagerson Eden. Thank you, mayor. Uh, I also want to wish everyone a happy new year. Hope you had a great holiday and took some well-deserved time off. Um, I just want to talk about this clean sweep, clean streets. Um, we do these periodically and the number one question I get is how come you didn't give us more notice? We don't give notice because people bring stuff in from other parts of the city, from other towns, and they truck it in. and that's our tax dollars that pay for it. So, but it is important. So, I just want to point out one of the biggest things on the clean streets is tires. This is an opportunity to get rid of the tires. I'm going to try to put a blast email out between tonight and Thursday. probably get it out tomorrow because the tires are a big big problem. Mario, I see you sitting back there. Can you put lawnmowers out? You don't know. Does anybody know from staff like an old lawn mower that doesn't work?

All right, I will find that out and put it in the email. Um, my emails generally I schedule my uh newsletters to go out at 3:00 am in the morning so everyone has them in their inbox the first thing and I send out about approximately 6500 emails uh when I do a newsletter. Um anyway, so clean, no chemicals, no paints. Those are different, but take this use this as an uh to our advantage to get some of this stuff out um on Thursday. And uh the um Crest Haven Civic Association is having a um their monthly meeting uh at 7 o'clock Thursday, this Thursday at the Charlotte Bur Center. and um I'll be excited to talk about some of the noise ordinances and the other things that we've achieved here this evening. And I do look forward for a great year. And you know um um I hope that uh we can keep the vision that has been Pompo Beach and keep the progress that going that we have achieved thus far. And I'm excited about the new year. I'm going to be excited about the new downtown. uh because for 30 years I've lived in the city for 35 years and finally after 30 years of getting have having property having enough um to be able to do something significant in in the Northwest community um is something that I am so proud of and so looking forward to for the residents of our city, all the residents, jobs, economic opportunity, business opportunity, uh elimination of

slim and blight, beautifification. I'm so I'm just thrilled and all the other great programs that the city and CRA and uh are trying to work into uh the uh community. Um and yeah, 30 years in the making, we are finally at that turning point. So, I'm really excited about uh the next year and and moving moving forward. But that's all I have right now. Thank you, Mayor. Very good. Thank you, Commissioner Smith. Thank you, Mayor. Um positive about tonight's meeting. There was two very positive things that I I felt and one is I want to toast to the utility department.

You're here for

drinking water that comes from our PMPono Beach. When I visited the utility department and got my tour when I first became commissioner, I went home and I took the turned off the water filter and stopped buying bottles of water unless I have to go somewhere with a bottle of water. It's the only time you see me with a bottle of water. And I um one of the residents, I can't remember who said that, that water truly is good. I think it was Mike. And I agree, it truly is good. The other good thing is it's awesome to see the AEDs coming into our parks and that mobile AED stand that um Scott that you that you showed us. Um I think that truly would be a lifesaver and I think all of us had tears in our eyes up here tonight when when um vice mayor was mentioning about that. Um, specific to District 5, a couple months ago, a group of people came here from Gw Estates and there it's a um mobile home park on 31st Avenue and the city has some property that's next to them that will ultimately be a park and a contractor was on there and they were grinding concrete and these poor people listened to not only the noise but the dust and they came that night. our city manager um said we are stopping it tonight and they did. I don't know who you called but they they stopped production that day and I wanted to let you know that um George in the facilities operations is working to do some pressure washing of the mobile homes that were directly affected by the concrete along the fence. So it it works. It does help to come and let people know Dennis was here tonight. we've made an an ordinance based upon a lot of complaints that he has. So you come and you speak, we listen. So that was a success story with that. Something about community. I was

looking back on my calendar of what I've done since we met last. And it was an exciting holiday season. I mean, I handed out five pounds of Hershey kisses at the John Knox Village holiday parade. Great to see all the people and how happy that community is. The U tide parade was phenomenal. I don't know how many floats you guys had, but it seemed like it went on forever. Lots of excitement. Beautiful night. The treelighting at untapped with fireworks over our head. And at the Cier City um civic association holiday party, I had the privilege of listening to I believe it's the EPA Larkin Senior Citizen Choir. Phenomenal voices. If you ever have a chance to hear them, you'll be blown away. And I am so looking forward to the Tiger Trail festivities that are going to be coming up in the month of February and starting in in January. So, if you have a chance, go to the um Tiger Trail website. There's a lot of things going on in um Pompa Beach with that. They've done a phenomenal job over the years. The quote tonight is to kick us off for the year. And I believe it comes from St. Jerome. There's different people say different things, but the quote is good, better, best, never let it rest till your good is better and your better is best. Thank you, mayor.

Very good. Thank you, Vice Mayor.

Thank you. I'm going to be brief. We've been here a long time. It is good to be back to work. I kicked off January with a procurement meeting with um assistant city manager Earl Bosworth and Mary Rivero in procurement. It was very informative. Uh I am still looking forward to the procurement workshop that we want to have because as much as I learned, I want to make sure that we can as a board discuss that with each other and talk about maybe some potential changes or improvements that um that we uh can all get behind and that um the city and procurement recommends. So, I'm looking forward to that. Um, at audience to be heard today, someone mentioned the golf course, and it reminded me um about the golf course contract, which I I know we've I've mentioned before, but um I am a big believer in putting contracts out to bid, especially long-term contracts that we've had. Um competition breeds um you know, it it's it's a breeds uh success. It it makes people sharpen their pencils and really it's good for everybody. So, um, Mr. Harrison, I think it's probably been at least like 11 years since the golf course contract went out. Is your intent to put it out to bid this year?

When you say the golf course contract, you talking about Bob Luring's contract? I'm talking about Yeah. the almost 200,000. Um, so it falls under you signed a renewal last year and I know I had said, "Hey, we're going to renew it and it's been another year, so it's up." No, I wasn't planning on putting it back out. Why is that? He's doing a great job. He's done a great job all these years. There's no reason to put it out. Well, there is a reason to put contracts out. We do that all the time. Like that's So, we put contracts out to bid to after decades to get people, like I said, sharpen their pencils. Um, so if if you want to micromanage me, uh, you make you a motion and if the majority of the commission tells me to put the contract out for Bob Luring, then I will.

Did you just say that me requesting a contract to go out to bid? That's a significant contract in our city that has been renewed over and over. Well, and it so it was two renewals for this board. So, this board did approve that contract, but now with your additional authority, you're just moving forward without us on many. And there's other examples I have, but that's one of them that I think it's time. So, I guess I will make a motion to ask the city manager to this year put out the the golf course pro contract to to bid and see what comes back. We've invested a lot in the golf course. We had someone come and talk about the Palms. Uh, and I I think it's it's time to see make sure we're getting the best bang for our buck. So, my motion is to ask the city manager to put the contract out to bid.

Second. Okay. Moved and seconded to uh direct the city manager to put the contract out to bid for the golf pro. Yeah. It's been 11 years. Okay. This is that has nothing to do with the maintenance of the No, no. I mean, I think that's under Brian Campbell, right? So, the the gentleman that spoke tonight, it's got nothing to do with Bob Luring, just so we're clear. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm I He He had a lot of issues. He had issues with food and beverage, all kinds. So, you know, and costs there. There were many issues in that he brought up. Okay. But got specifically the one that's up right now. There's one of them that's up right now. Specifically, the Bob Luring contract. That contract is up. Okay. So, it's been moved and seconded to uh direct the city manager to go out for bid for um a I guess for a golf pro. That's this year.

See what we get. Maybe we better pricing. because it's not it's it's not the Bob Luring contract. But no, it's for it's for the managing the the the range, the pro shop, all of it. And I think it's hard when I think about this like we pay slightly under 200,000, but there's a lot of value there just um to someone else. So because they get to manage a shop or things and and get revenue so there's other sources.

Okay. So it's been been moved and seconded by Commissioner Fess. Discussion on the motion. I've got Commissioner Smith. I'm not in favor of putting contracts out to bid when you have a good working relationship with a contractor and gone over this for years being involved in out in condos where every most everything's done with a contract. If you have a good relationship with somebody and they're doing a good job, why would you want to go out for bid? It's almost like if you're going to the doctors, you're going to find a new doctor each time and re-evaluate everything when you have somebody that you like. Um, I think relationships are built over the years and unless somebody's not performing right, I I'm not in favor of going out and shopping a contract just to sharpen a pencil. I think relationships more important than that pencil.

Okay. Vice vote no.

Yeah. So, I think that um maybe things aren't as healthy as you think and getting a second opinion is always a good idea and maybe you find it, oh, I like my, you know, yeah, the first doctor was right, but you might hear something different and if it's been 11, 12 years, it's maybe it's time to hear something different and and then you get to take a look and perhaps it the the original opinion was the best and maybe their opinion got even better because they had to, like I said, sharpen their pencil or see if there were opportunities that they were missing. But I I I think there is never a downside to putting things out. It's in this procurement world and and city contracts, it's not a slap in the face to put something out to bid. It's not saying, "Oh, we don't like you." It's saying, "We have to do this because we're looking for the best cost and value for the residents of our city because we are using their tax dollars to pay for it."

Very good. further disc got Commissioner Fessick then Commissioner Seigerson Eaton. Okay, I will definitely support this because if you work in look, if if you're working in business or marketing, you're not you're you're constantly renewing contracts and you have to stay competitive and you have to be confident enough that you're offering the service that you're not threatened by a by anybody else bidding because you've done you you can be confident in defending their position and saying, "I've know I've done a great job. I love the city. I've done this." And you should be confident in those relationships as well. Um, I think healthy competition breeds breeds success and and brings new ideas, fresh ideas. And even if it works out where we still maintain the same contract, even just having the ideas come through the process might be something that leads somebody down. Again, it just goes back to collaboration in some way, shape, or form. We find out, you know, after 11 years, I mean, I think we can all agree on one thing. We're not the same person we were 11 years ago. We don't do the same things. We operate completely different likely than we did 11 years ago in some ways. We have, you know, our tastes have maybe changed or matured, right? So, I think that in any sort of case like that after 11 years, yeah, let's let's see how the the the demographic of golfers has potentially changed, how they want to see what they want to see. the I know golf clubs. My one of my girlfriends is as a golf pro. Uh she works over at Edwin Watts and so she talks to golfers all the time. There's always this new stuff coming out. We have that new place right across the street, the the virtual golf place you can go hang out when in the middle of summer when it's hot and not and and not get on the golf course. So I I would love to see not just in this instance. I mean, in this instance, yes, that's what I would vote on, but I would love to see that sort of collaborative and and in energetic opportunity to just put things out to bid truly people who are doing a good job will not be threatened by that.

And we cannot continue to operate under it, but that's just how we've always done it because that's not serving us as a city or the residents we serve. Thank you, Commissioner Secret Saint.

Thank you, Mayor. Um, you know, it's sort of a a conundrum because city manager does have authority entering into contracts under $200,000 and that's that's the way we are operating. So, we we do have that. So, the golf course is in my district and and I I just want to I mean, I'm hearing really really good things about it. the success we see. Oh, the Guppies. I'm I remember when we first signed that contract with uh Grant or rather Pat Galapy, senior uh there and there's no doubt it's been one of the best best concession the city has ever had. So, my h my first husband was a golfer. Uh we actually, you know, um joined Boer Tone Resort and Club back in the day. uh when it was still affordable. Uh and um you know there is a a certain level of service uh that uh people have will come to expect because they're paying for it. But but what I'm noticing is and I have gotten some complaints from a couple of Avid golfers over the over the years about customer service. I don't know, attention to details. Um less than stellar looking premises. I don't know who's on what or what's on, you know, who's on second or what and how it's run. I you know but I do think we have an excellent asset and I know Earl has overseed that

with Park and Rex and the golf that we have really really improved and the amount of compliments that we've gotten for the new course the Greg Norman course and whatever whatever um has been it is just phenomenal and we're finally we've turned that corner and we're making money and Um, I don't know exactly how to do to do it, whether we just demand it go out for bit because I don't think we really have that authority. But I do think it might be worthwhile taking a look at the situation, maybe hiring another, you know, getting a consultant to come in there and do a an overview and analysis as to how we could get it because it's a funny place, right? You come in there and you have that roundabout circle in the middle there and it almost you could you almost feel like you're you're in the 1960s or 70s when you kind of kind of come in there. So it's funky cool, very retro, but you know I I frequent there. I go there and you know I see I see you know it's kind of unckempt right around that outdoor area there. And I've been into the bathrooms and when I've been in there there in the evening and they're just not really that great. So I don't know who's I don't know whether we just need one person overseeing this whole thing and we just need to get everybody on the same page. We need to make this as successful as property possible. And I don't know how how you do that. I'm not prepared to like say oh Mr. Mr. Harrison this is this is the way you do it because I don't know if it's the right way. I mean, things are I agree things get managed, things change. We we we do ordinances and I'm not really trying to lecture anyone and and I'm sorry if I'm laboring a point, but uh we

do have a fine jewel in that golf course, much to our credit and some of the things this commission has done and past commissions done. So, I mean, Pompino, it just puts us on the map. Air park, beach, golf course. So, that's all I'm going to say. I'm not prepared to uh I'm not prepared to support it. I hope it gets out there in the mix for some thought. That's all. And that's all I have. Thank you, mayor. Very good. Vice Mayor.

Yeah, I just want to quickly respond. I I do think we made a big investment in the golf course and it looks great. Revenue is up. It's doing better than ever, the Pines course. Um, my hope would be maybe we could even get someone to want to invest in some of the improvements to the areas you were describing if we go out to bid because maybe with where we're at now, maybe someone would be willing to put in a little bit of money to make the pro shop look better or something, you know? That's why you put things out to see what comes back. Um, and because maybe someone has a vision for that, right? That's different. And that's why we put it out there to see what comes back and then we pick the best thing to for the future to build what we want there. That's my thoughts. Thank you,

Mer. May I respond? Yeah, but the question is what what is what does RFP look like or the RF look what does it look like? Are we going to want to run it the way we've been running it? You know, I'm just saying I mean opposed to the idea, but I just think we need to flesh it out a little bit more. Well, and that's sorry that's where I guess I think it's micromanaging. I would just give direction that hey, we want to see what you can come up with to procurement and to Earl and Brian and everyone who's who's running it and see what ideas they have and give them the opportunity to kind of describe what maybe a new vision for that would be and see what comes back. I I don't see any downside to it. Thank you, Mr. Fessic.

I one of the the gentlemen that did speak um Mr. He did mention that we have a golf a golf advisory board and perhaps that might be a good source for Mr. Harrison. So I don't think we have to decide things. I think we already have advisory boards that would tell us or players or feedback from that could already tell us what some things might be included or should be included in that RFP. Um but don't think hiring consultants or more consultants is is the plan. I think I think fresh ideas come from put it out there. It's kind of like you just you're going fishing, right? and and you you know you already caught a great fish with with Mr. luring and you're going to, you know, one you could literally keep on the wall for another 11 years, but I think it least but people still fish, right? So just try to see what's out there and and rely on our advisory boards that we've already put in place to help point us in the right direction. So I I I think this is a great idea. Um just out of curiosity if I could ask a question vice is there is there a particular issue that you think needs to be solved out there that you could give some guidance on to to Mr. Harrison or is this just you just think a fresh pair of eyes looking at the situation?

Yeah. So the contract is up.

So it was up last year and I had this conversation that I just thought it was time like some of our contracts that are pretty important especially given the investment we made over there. I wanted to make sure we were getting the absolute best and and that we maybe had the opportunity to rethink how things were operating over there because I know it's a complicated like there's there there's the golf bro, there's Mr. Campbell, there's food and beverage, there's golf tournaments. I know there's a lot of complexity in how it's managed. So, I thought maybe it would give them all an opportunity to think about how like a future vision for running the golf course might be more seamless or maybe everyone could work together a little differently out there with maybe a more clear hierarchy or something. So, I I would not be I would not get into the weeds of that because I I trust staff who's managing it to to have that vision, but I I do think it's time maybe just for us to see if someone out there has a new vision for it because the the contract's up, the one-year renewal that Mr. Harrison signed. It's a timing thing, I guess, for me.

So, it's not not really a ground swell of of opposition to

I've heard some I've heard some I've heard some issues. Yeah. So, but yeah, I'm not gonna sit up here. I there's definitely um just different you you know how you hear a lot. We we hear things and I think it's just for me I I don't really listen to things as complaints like that. I view it as an opportunity because I do hear such good things from the golf advisory board and the revenue numbers and the and how beautiful the course looks and and actually I hear good things about the maintenance of it. Um, so I don't always hear the same things from the same people, but I just have been hearing a lot. And so I want to make sure that we are operating as efficiently as we can out there and doing the, you know, the best with the tournaments and and if there's something different we can be doing. I mean, and I'm hoping Mr. Lauren can sit down even say, okay, you know what, it's been 12 years, whatever. They've invested all this, like what does a modern operation look like and are we do are we, you know, delivering that and maybe get some other ideas. So,

Gotcha. Okay. Okay. But I wouldn't I I wouldn't dare to get into the weeds of what those ideas are. I just would like to see what what someone would think, you know, if we put the put it out there. Gotcha. Okay. Well, just I mean, from my perspective, I I appreciate the conversation, appreciate the questions and and the the uh the motion, but I'm not going to support it at this point in time. Um because no, I want I want to get with Mr. Harrison, talk with him about things, but but that's I'm just one. So, we'll see.

That that's exactly I I think it has to be fleshed out. I'm not ready to just go full boore. I don't know when this contract's up. I haven't read the contract. I don't know the scope, you know. So, I know nothing about it. So, again, but I just do I do think that I think it's fully apparent that we want to have this we want to have a conversation about this some investigation into it. Thank you, mayor. Absolutely. And we didn't have to have a workshop. Um, so let's go ahead and call the role on the motion to direct the city manager to um develop an RFP for the golf pro position. Commissioner Fez, yes. Commissioner Perkins, yes. Commission Secret Eaton, no. Commissioner Smith, no.

Forier, yes. Harden, no. All right, it's my report. That's that's so uh No, I have to have a quote because because Commissioner Smith tells me I have to have a quote. So for me, my quote today is from Dr. Martin Luther King. Appropriate. Um in a real sense, all life is interrelated. The agony of the poor impoverishes the rich. The betterment of the poor enriches the rich. We are inevitably our brother's keeper because we are our brother's brother. Whatever affects one directly affects all indirectly. We'll see you at the MLK parade next Monday morning at 9:00 am. Absolutely. Very good. No rain.

Very good. Yes. I I just h I just want to say happy new year to everybody. Um and great job to staff for all the end of year festivities that we had last uh last last year and look forward to a great new year with all the stuff that uh happens in PMPO Beach. We are a great community, a great city and um I think the residents reflect reflect that in their uh their thoughts about us. This meeting is ajourned. Thank you.