Board - Regular Meeting

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Board of Trustees regular meeting for Tuesday, October 14, 2025, 6:30 p.m. Call to order. A roll call. Trusty Buckley here. Trusty Clinton here. Supervisor Kermy here. Treasure Dors Chevz here. Trusty Growth here. Trusty Stewart here. Clerk Forba. Uh, we have a quorum.

All right. Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Need a motion to approve the agenda for October 14, 2025. Mr. Supervisor, can I make a correction? Pardon? Can I make a correction? You want to make it on the consent agenda. So, we'll approve the agenda and then it'll come up next. So, Mr. Supervisor, I move for the approval of the agenda for Tuesday, October 14th, 2025. Second. Second by Growth. All in favor? I. Motion carries. Approval of the consent agenda. Mr. Supervisor, I move for the approval of the uh consent agenda for Tuesday, October 14th, 2025. And because there's a resolution, it will require roll call. So now we have we need a second.

We we don't have a second yet. No, I have a correction on the minutes. Minutes. Okay, let's go to it. Yeah. So under scold back up down at the packet page at the bottom of five of something or six.

Yeah. So under my board comments, it's just the last sentence. Uh it said she shared that she has respect for her colleagues in the transparent process of Grace Greenhouse. Um, I need that corrected to what I actually said, which was, um, but that it's a disservice to the citizens and the presenters to not be transparent in their reason for voting no on Grace Greenhouse. That is so noted and that will be changed in the U. And so, um, so we will have this consent agenda to reflect that notation. Yeah. And I Laura has a copy.

Good. So I I've moved. I need a second. Second. Okay. Okay. This requires a roll call. Clerk Borba. Yes. Trusty Stewart. Yes. Trusty Growth. Yes. Treasure Dorch Evans. Yes. Supervisor Kermy. Yes. Trusty Clinton. Yes. Trusty Buckley. Yes. Motion carries.

All right. Uh public comments on non-aggenda items. Three minutes. Please stick to the three minutes and be civil and factual. I will be all of those. I'm uh Dale Burnernhard. At the September 23rd township board meeting, I stood in front of this board and spoke about the need to conduct a traffic study prior to granting the PUD option for Grace Greenhouse Development. The need for the traffic study was warranted because of the heavy traffic congestion currently at the Grace Corner, which is Lily Joy Road. Following day, a post shows up in Facebook on a website some believe to be authored by the former fired supervisor. The post reads, "Traffic, traffic, traffic." Here we go again with Mr. Burnernhard always spreading fear, never a single fact. So, here are the facts. The planning commission conducted a survey this summer to understand our residents needs, wants, and issues. Of the 812 respondents, 606 flagged traffic congestion as a big concern, which made it the number one township resident dissatisfier. Also, prior to PUD approval, zoning ordinance 99.02 requires that eight PUD option requirements must be satisfied. Number six of the eight reads as such. The proposed uses and the location of said uses on the subject property shall be such that traffic to and from the site would not be hazardous or adversely impact properties or conflict with the

normal traffic flow of the general area. In reviewing this particular aspect, the township shall consider the following. Does it conflict with convenient routes for pedestrian traffic particularly of children? What about its relationship to major thoroughares and street intersections? Based on the planning commission survey and PUD requirement number six, a reasonable person would come to the conclusion that was appropriate for a resident to ask the traffic congestion question and for a traffic study to be completed prior to PUD approval so this board could assess the implications of the graze development on an already congested corner. So, I ask this board and the planning commission to complete traffic assessments prior to giving any approvals for developments and formally include this traffic study requirement into the approval process. Facts are important. Studies need to be completed prior to approvals so those facts can be applied to the decision-making process. It was also written on the same Facebook site that Gray's greenhouse proposed project is a bankruptcy waiting to happen. Likely will be a future condo site once a bank takes over the property. So I asked the author of that Facebook post, where are your facts to make that statement? Didn't you just try to spread fear?

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Burnernhard. I appreciate you making those statements and I just want to make a comment that before the approval of the Grace project. I noted that the applicant said they would do a light traffic study if needed and I did ask that that be done, but I appreciate your research and you're letting us know that that is something we need to not ask if it's okay. We need to make sure that it is done before we start making those allowances. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. I appreciate that. Any other public comments?

No. So, let's go to new business. Uh tonight we're going to have aformational presentation from Judge Knap of the Third Judicial Circuit Court which serves us here in Plymouth Township for civil and criminal cases. Is Mike's? Is this mic on? Yes. Yes.

Uh thank you. First I want to thank uh all of you. Supervisor Kermy, Trusty Buckley, Trusty Clinton, Trusty Growth, Trustee Stewart, Clerk Borva, and Treasurer Dorch Chevz for allowing me to address you this evening. I know they have a busy agenda. I'll try to be brief. I'm Judge Don Nap, and I serve as the presiding judge of the criminal division of the Third Circuit Court. Before I became a judge, I was happy to serve seven years on the Leavonia City Council and nine years as Leavonia City Attorney. So, I can appreciate the challenges you face and the difficult defi uh decisions you of often have to make in order to keep Plymouth a very vibrant uh community. Um why am I here? So, what I'm trying to do and what the court is doing is engaging a little community outreach. We want to talk about the work of the court, emphasize the importance of jury service, uh provide some information about our new criminal justice center that's been open for a little over a year, and let people know the ways we're trying to make the court a welcoming place. First, please allow me to emphasize the importance of jury service. The question I, as a judge, is often asked more than any other is, I got a jury summon. How do I get out of jury duty? And it's not a question I I willingly answer because I know the importance of jury service. And it's uh uh the fact that if we didn't have willing jurors that are willing to serve, our system falls apart. I often find people uh come into my courtroom who uh come up with a lot of different reasons why they think they can't be fair. What it really boils down to is they would want people uh like you uh who are willing to engage in public service and keep an open mind and be

fair and impartial. They just don't want to do it for anybody else. And we as judges and court staff know that when you get your jury summons, you're not excited to come down to Detroit and, you know, sit amongst a bunch of strangers and not be at work or with family or other places. So, we try to make it a very welcoming place. Uh, as you may or may not know, uh, we're no longer in the the criminal division is no longer in the Frank Murphy Hall of Justice, uh, which used to be located right on the edge of Greek Town at Crashid and St. Anwine. We're now in the new criminal justice center, which is over on East Warren N75. Um, the criminal justice center, as you can see from the pictures, is bright and new. Frank Murphy, you know, had a lot of history and did a lot of there were a lot of great cases tried there. Uh, but the building was was old and it, you know, wasn't always the most welcoming place. Uh, you can see from the photographs we incorporated the county did a lot of new technology. Uh, it's very light and airy. We have very helpful staff that welcomes people when they come in. Um, this is a big deal. Free parking. Okay. If whether you're a juror or a litigant or uh an attorney, there's free parking uh very close to the building. Um we also try to make sure that impanled jurors feel safe. So, one of the things that is different about the criminal justice center is that once you're impanled, once you are selected to serve on a jury, you're actually uh moved in and out of the courtroom through a secured corridor. So in that way we minimize contact for those jurors with the with the parties. Sometimes there's concerns and people, you know, don't want to have those interactions when they have to make very difficult decisions. And most of our trials don't last two

weeks. You're not going to be down there for a month in the vast vast majority of cases. Most cases last 2, three, maybe 4 days. Uh four or five days is about as long as you know you typically get in our building. So you're not going to be pressed into service for real long periods of time. Um and most jurors find it a very positive experience. You see nowadays, you know, in the larger community, particularly in the political arena, a lot of division, right? People can't come together and reach a decision for the common good. And I always talk to jerks after a trial is over. And what I find more often than not is that you have a large you get a lot a very diverse group of people. You know our jurists are come from Detroit. They come from Gross Point, Down River, Plymouth, Northville. And so you get a very diverse group of people that are come called to make difficult decisions about the liberty of people and uh and you know maybe try to give some justice to victims. And more often than not, you see people get along very swimmingly to make difficult decisions and work together in a very positive way. So what is the court? You know, where does it sort of fall in our judicial system? So the circuit court is a trial court. Uh the trial court uh sort of sits a bit above the the district court, the probate court and municipal courts. Uh we have wide jurisdiction. Our jurisdiction covers the entire county. The district court, you have very fine judges, Judge Jaru, uh, Plleus and Baron. They cover a smaller jurisdiction as your township attorney knows, right? Your court and you, I'm sure you all know, uh, your area covers Plymouth City, Plymouth Township, Northville City, Northville Township, and Canton. So, it's a smaller area and the cases tend to be uh they're, you know,

serious, but not as serious as we often see down in the circuit court. Decisions made in the circuit court or appealed to the court of appeals and then potentially to the Michigan Supreme Court. Decisions based that come out of the district court appeal to the circuit court. So, we also actually act as a a court of appeals in some instances. Our court has 59 judges. It is by far the largest court in the state of Michigan. If you added up uh the judges from the the other largest counties, you wouldn't have as many judges if you even added them all together. Um and we're spread across a number of different buildings. Our civil division and uh family division are located in the Kulina Young Municipal Center. The juvenile court is over at the Lincoln Hall of Justice. Again, the criminal division which I proudly serve in is in the the new criminal justice center and then the front of the court matters are handled at the Pop Popscot building. So, you know, what is our sort of mission and vision? Well, we try to be an innovative court that provides equal justice to all. Right? Again, we're a very diverse county. Um there's a lot going on and we have judges from across uh the political and demographic spectrum that I think provide very excellent service to Wayne County residents. We work closely with our partners. You know, just as the township has an excellent uh police force, fire department, DPW department, we work with our partners uh in the sheriff's department, uh the clerk's office, the prosecutor's office, uh the county executive's office, and the county commission uh to pro to provide all the services uh that you know we uh give to uh residents of Wayne County. uh like you

is it takes a lot of different people working together uh to provide that service to our residents. Well, what kind of cases do we handle? Now, your district court, you're going to have things like your uh drunk driving cases, traffic tickets, assault and battery cases, smaller civil cases, landlord tenant cases. Ours tend to be uh on a larger scale. in the civil division, uh, you know, we see lawsuits that have requests for damages above $25,000. So, if you ever see, uh, Mike Morris, Jeff Figer, uh, Bernstein's uh, commercials, those cases are going to land in the circuit court. Uh, also, property disputes, um, election law cases that arise from time to time. In the criminal division, we handle felonies. So, anything from homicide, criminal sexual conduct, uh drunk driving, third cases, armed robbery, and a lot of gun cases. In the family division, which is over at the Kman Young Municipal Center, there's divorce, child custody, uh parenting time, uh PPOs, the ERPO's, which is relatively new phenomenon, which is the red, if you heard of the red flag laws, the emergency response protection orders that your uh police department may encounter from time to time. If somebody's could be harmful to themselves or others and they possess a gun, there's a way to remove that gun uh from the uh the person who may pose a danger. Uh there's a high bar uh but it does give law enforcement an additional tool to try to keep folks safe. And then finally, we have the juvenile division uh which is part of the family division. Uh so you think about if a if a if a young person and a juvenile commits a crime they'll be handled in uh in the juvenile division. They're also handled

child protection, adoption and guardianship matters. So again there's a wide spectrum of cases across uh the court and uh our divisions. Again, since I promised um uh that I'd be short, I just as a little sense of, you know, the amount of work that we do in the court. Um in the civil division, last year, there were 18,338 matters uh filed. In the criminal division, we there were over 7,000 cases filed. In the family division, 33 over 33,000. So you can see, you know, uh we're a very busy court and while sometimes people complain that we don't move quick enough, even though you have the large number of judges, when you have this volume of cases, sometimes it can feel like an emergency room as you're trying to, you know, move through your cases in a thoughtful uh and efficient manner. So again, I wanted to thank you for your your time today. Hopefully I've given you a little sense of uh what the court does and the things that you know we do to sort of show our appreciation to the jurors and litigants who come down and have to uh uh come before us. And if you have any questions, uh I know you're busy, but I'm happy to answer them.

Supervisor, I have two. One is what is driving the increase in cases when the population in the county is flat to down and the number of businesses in the county is nothing like what it was 40 or 50 years ago.

I I don't I I can't say that for certain. I I I really don't haven't seen any studies that would give you be able to I can only speculate honestly. I kn know that uh a lot of the cases that we see in the civil division are what's called PIP cases, right? So your your uh traffic accident cases that are often advertised among the large law firms. Um the law provides that uh you can file those cases even if they occur in another county in Wayne County because those insurance companies do business in the county. So it it could be that you know a lot of the advertising is driving that. Um that's about I think 75% of the civil docket

is personal injury is are your PIP cases. Yep. 75. Wow. And when I have one more question is one of the largest reasons for school failure in the Detroit area. What leverage do you have to solve that problem? Mhm.

Uh I don't serve in the civil division or excuse me in the juvenile division. Uh I do know that the uh the juvenile judges uh do their best to try to um supervise, put those juveniles on probation, uh include family members more and uh make sure that they're accountable. But again, never having practiced in that area, it's not it's not something that I feel comfortable uh answering and giving you a thoughtful or informed answer.

In the criminal division, what roughly what percentage of cases actually go to trial and of those, what percentage u just rough numbers uh end in conviction? Okay, so north of 90% are going to resolve with a plea. Um, and in the civil cases, it's even higher. Civil cases, you know, you're probably looking at 97 plus% of the cases are going to resolve without a trial. And that's why if you ever get called for jury service, you're likely to be called in my division because we do do many more trials. So, for example, um when I first became a judge, I had a a docket that was in a little rough shape, and I think I was trying about four cases a month. Now, in the in the civil division, you might try four cases in a year. Um was there I think I missed part of your question. Was there something else?

When they go to trial, what what is the conviction rate? generally it it's it's not easy to get a conviction. Uh jurors take their job seriously. And so um at trial, again, I'd be guessing it's probably 50% or more, but again, that's that's not based on any empirical data. That's just my own personal experience. But that was after the first 90% already filtered out because they let out,

right? People go to trial whether it's a civil case or a criminal case because each side thinks they've got a triable case. So the way you resolve it is by having a trial.

Yes, sir. Your honor, as a participant for the last 50 years, the first three as a law clerk and the last 47 as a licensed attorney, one of the most gratifying days is what Mora Coran implemented was the adoption day. And I have professionally participated. It's always the Tuesday before Thanksgiving. I want to give you a professional compliment. I want to because I think you could be the one person who could schedule that for another day. A lot of people go on vacation the 48 hours before Thanksgiving and we're seeing an increase. And you're in a growth industry with adoptions and grandparents raising children and is there any chance you would be willing to consider rescheduling that? It's did you know you know the Detroit legal news carries pictures and it's a beautiful day. the Tuesday before Thanksgiving, adoption day. And Mora, Oregon, to her great credit, 30 years ago, implemented that day. But I don't, you know, I have family now out outstate and I I'm I'm gone that week and so are a lot of people. And I think we could provide more emphasis and facilitate adoptions if we put it on a date other than Tuesday before Thursday of Thanksgiving. Would you be willing to consider that? So, let me sort of be clear. I'm the presiding judge of the criminal division,

right? The chief judge of the circuit court would likely be making that decision. and I'm happy to pass on the suggestion and also talk to the the presiding judge of the juvenile division. I do know that I think other courts have them on different days. Um and certainly uh you want as many people participating in that sort of joyous event as you possibly could. So I think that makes sense. Thank you. If you would be willing to pass that along. Sure.

I just have one question. And I'm curious to know, I not I noted that each division has a set of judges, a certain number of judges. Um, in your court, how is it determined which judge will oversee which case? Is it like a lottery?

It's a blind draw. So, the way the process works, if let's say, you know, god forbid, something were to happen here in Plymouth, uh the prosecutor's office charges that uh defendant, their first step is to go to the district court here in Plymouth and uh there's potentially a preliminary exam that's held and at that exam is determined whether or not there's probable cause to bind that over to the circuit court. assuming that it's bound over or if the exam is waved, then it goes to the circuit court or a division. And you'll first that that defendant and the uh the defendant's attorney will go to what's called an arraignment court judge. And at that point, um they'll have the chance to maybe resolve it um uh with a plea if if they if there's an offer. And if not, if they want a trial and it's not resolved, then it gets blind drawn to uh a trial judge. So it would be blind drawn to someone like me. And then uh a week or two later, there'll be that case that appears on my docket. I'll set a calendar. I'll set dates for a final conference, uh motions, and a trial. And in the event that you have a personal connection to someone involved in a case, how is that handled? You just

So I mean it it doesn't happen very often, but it does happen on occasion. So the judge will recognize that conflict. So for example, um if there was close friend or family member who's a witness, a party, um you know, someone who's a victim or a defendant, then that judge would uh acknowledge that conflict, you know, recuse themsself. Okay?

And then it gets blind drawn to another judge and then that judge gets to trade a light case. So, let's say there's a um carrying concealed weapon case. I have to recuse myself. That's going to go to another judge and whoever gets that gets to send me a CCW case. Okay. So, that we're balancing out our dockets. Okay. Thank you very much. Sure. My pleasure. When we had several years ago when we had that COVID and everything came to a screeching halt, is everything kind of back to normal now? Yes. So we had about I think it's about 34 to 3,700 cases

that were the result of our shutdown during the COVID backlog uh during during CO you know so we had a lot of work. Yeah.

Uh we are we benefited because the state court administrator's office gave the court a grant uh so that we could hire a couple of visiting judges and we changed the way we structured our court a little bit. We reduced our number of arraignment court judges from four to two and added a couple of trial judges because we recognized that we've got a lot of cases we needed to try. We needed more trial judges and less arraignment judges. And so over the course of the last three years, we've reduced that number from think 34 to 3,700 down to 20 or less now.

Thank you. What impact has AI tools had on your uh your part of your division particularly any?

Uh uh no not so much yet. Uh there are I think some stories about how some attorneys I think in other areas have tried to uh you know go to chat GPT and have them draft briefs and then submit them. those don't work because sometimes you have cases that completely don't exist that are in those briefs and if you don't recognize and shepherdize those cases, you're you're coming up with with bad law. Um it is something that we're looking at. Uh there's a a court committee that was just uh just just been formed. I'm not even sure if it's met yet to look to see whether or not there's some forms of AI that we could use to benefit the court, some of the attorneys, and maybe some of the unrepresented litigants. But before we utilize it, we have to make sure that it's effective and we're got we have a a product that, you know, isn't going to uh wreak some havoc.

So, aren't you glad you came to Plymouth, a questionnaire place? You know what? I'm I'm I'm I'm happy to be here. It's It's great to be out in the community and uh see local government at work. I spend a lot of time in local government and it's always fun to get back to where you came from. And why'd you come here? I live in Leavonia and I love Plymouth. My wife and I, we spend a lot of time in Plymouth, Northville, Leavonia. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Thank you, judge. All right. Uh we'll take item number two, which is the 2026 budget for water and sewer fund nominally. Uh, and Carol Rashan, our new director of finance and our congratulations.

Oh, and our, um, DPW director, uh, Patrick Felwrath will give us some discussion. Uh, we'll start with, we're going to start with the Brownfield and DDA. Is that right, Carol? Yes. Okay. So, DDA is downtown development authority and a portion of taxes collected in the Ann Arbor Road corridor from Eckles on the east to uh just west of Kroger on the west um funds this operation. Downtown Development Authority. All right. Go ahead, Carol.

Okay. Do you want me to start and we can turn our head sideways to look or? Yeah, I'm trying to.

Okay. Good evening. So, tonight the funds I'm going to go over is uh downtown development authority, the brownfield redevelopment authority, water and sewer, rubbish, and the senior transportation fund. So, we'll start with the uh DDA. So, for fiscal year 2026, we have uh total revenues budgeted of $814,100. Uh there's a breakdown there of the different items where we come up with that total. Um you do see there are there's the revenue for the EV chargers in there and we do have an offset for expenses in the utilities that we pay for the electricity for those EV chargers. So, we have um a total of $844,000 for budgeted expenditures for the year and that would give us um expenditures of $30,000 over budgeted revenue for this year. Um a couple of the items you see in there is um rentals, leased equipment. That is the new flock cameras that we are going to lease. Um, we did a presentation to the DDA board in the last week. They had a full explanation. Um, if you would like some more details on that, uh, Chief Nitel can give you some information. Um, what the plan is for the flock cameras.

Do you want to do that now? We just take a a minute to do that on the fly cameras. Or do you want to wait till the end of this one? The DDA. What works best? Carol, we can keep going. I guess we could do it at the end then. Okay.

Okay. So, uh, some of the highlights of the year is, um, an annual contribution to the general fund for, um, enhanced police services of $55,000. Um, an annual contribution to the general fund of 31,600 for um, management costs related to DB DA. So, this would be approximately 10% of the salaries and wages for the supervisor's office and the payroll department. As I mentioned, we're going to lease the flock cameras. And then we have capital outlay for the CSX Ann Arbor Road sidewalk gap. That was a little hard to project. It kind of depends on the timeline and how the project moves along. So, um we'll have to wait and see how close we are on those budgeting items. So to compare f school year 25 to 26, um we have budgeted revenue in fiscal year 26 of $814,100. An amended budget for 2025 of $777,900, which is a $36,000 increase in revenue or 4.7%. for our expenditures. Uh 2026 budget is $844,000. Um the amended budget showing here is 1,438. We're going to have a budget amendment next meeting for this. There was an amount of 500,000 um budgeted into capital outlay that shouldn't have been in here. So we are going to make the adjustment. So the overall increase after that or decrease after that would only be 94,200 which would be a 10% decrease in expenditures. Um

was that for the spine road? Yes, it was the DDA advance. It wasn't a DDA expenditure. So I'll be making it's a loan, right?

Yes, it's a loan. So, the the the DDA fund balance as shown prior to um any adjustments, we're projecting a fund balance of 1,460,000 with the budgeted revenues an increase of 814,000 uh budgeted expenditures of 8.44. That would bring us to a 2026 ending fund balance of $1,430,881 based on how the budget is currently sitting. So Carol, in two weeks that top number of 1,5 will be 2 million. Correct. Yes.

So it will it's good 2 million to the good.

Correct. Yeah. We will increase by 500,000. Okay. Do you want to discuss flock cameras and then we'll move on to DD to brownfield. Thank you. At the uh DDA meeting uh Assistant Chief Kudra and we were joined by the Flock representative gave a full presentation uh on the implementation of this strategy. uh effectively um half of uh the cameras that we would be installing in Plymouth Township uh little more than half would be funded by the DDA and the rest was in our budget uh in the presentation. Uh cameras uh are being utilized, license plate reader cameras are being utilized to investigate uh criminal complaints uh throughout the area. Um every community in our area is utilizing uh LPR's license plate readers. We had three of the top companies uh that provide license plate readers come in. The uh supervisor sat in through each of the presentations. Flock uh is being utilized by a majority of the uh communities in the area to include uh city of Leavonia, Farmington Hills, Northville Township. Um I know the city of Plymouth as well is looking at flat cameras. So, uh, it is the city of Detroit, uh, Dearbornne. Uh, in my, uh, law enforcement experience, uh, license plate readers are probably one of the, uh, if not the leading investigative tool that I've seen, um, in the last 25 to 30 years, uh, as far as, uh, assisting with investigations. Chief Isa Shaheen uh, from Dearborn, I've spoken with him about the their imple implementations. uh they have uh solved multiple homicide investigations on data that was re uh recovered from license

plate readers. So license plate readers um are not uh they are um not direct information on being able to arrest somebody. It basically is a tool to uh get information uh to identify potential suspects. It's just the beginning of the investigation. A strong example of this would be uh and we have utilized license plate uh data for years here in Plymouth Township. About three years ago when I first got here, uh we had two individuals that walked into the Shell gas station in 5 Mile Beck. Uh they grabbed an ATM, pulled it out of the business, loaded into a car, and drove off. We had a description of the vehicle. There was some damage on one of the quarter panels of the vehicle. We put that information in the license plate reader, came up uh with the license plate that we felt possibly could have been utilized with that. The investigation continued. We did interviews. We identified two s suspects, charged two suspects, and recovered the ATM uh at a in an alley in Detroit. So, uh it was very successful in that case. Uh as I mentioned, Dearborn has a had a lot of successes. I've spoken with Chief Gowski from Leavonia. Uh they're implementing theirs. Uh they were approved two weeks ago. So they're in the process of implementing I believe 40 uh total in the city of Leavonia. So um are there uh any questions? Yes.

I I have a question. I I was watching one of those police shows. I hate to admit it, but I did. And um the police officer from another state pulled a gentleman over who had a lot of meth in the car. and the police officer made the comment that, you know, he used the LPR, the license plate reader, and that they could tell that that car had been in Mexico. How

Yeah. So, what they're being utilized a lot and what we're seeing a lot of them is in these uh high-end home invasion uh crews that are traveling from state to state that we're collecting data from, you know, we can identify when they entered the state uh what communities they were in uh all based on that license plate data. The other information that I didn't mention is which is very important is what we used to always call a hot sheet. So, uh information came out. We had a a vehicle stolen yesterday or there's a a child missing from this community. If those cars come into our community, we are notified uh as soon as they enter the community that that vehicle and particularly on Ann Arbor Road with the DDA um a vehicle that's stolen has entered the community. We get uh notified dispatch. our officers uh on their phones can be notified uh so they can respond to the area and see if they can locate that vehicle and again be proactive uh because certainly somebody coming into this town with a stolen vehicle is up to no good probably going to try to steal another car uh and we can get up in the area and we can try to locate that vehicle. I know in the city of Farmington knows they had a missing subject uh from the Sagena area that was located in a vehicle because of the license plate readers. So

it's very impressive technology. It's It's nice. It's It's some of the best I've seen. I mean, quite frankly. So So we're leasing these at 3,000 a month. Is that I think. Yeah. A little bit more than that. Yeah. And they'll be on poles that are maybe 20 ft tall. Dedicated poles.

Yeah. And this implementation will be specifically for the DBA uh from Ann Arbor Road from Eckles uh to the Kroger's uh specifically identifying uh routes in and out of uh the DBA. Uh the implementation for uh in the rest of our budget will identify other locations coming in and out uh of particularly freeways uh and other larger streets, Hagerty Road, Sheldon, things like that. It's 3,000 a month for the whole pack. Not a month. 3,000 a year. Sorry. Per per reader. Yeah. 3,000 a year per reader. Yeah. There's there's more the first year because of the imple uh the instation installation. Thank you.

And then is there ongoing costs for the service? No, the data is collected for one month. We uh house our own data. Uh so we uh that's all part of the package. Yes. Yes sir. So, our officers wearing at all times on duty body cameras. Out of the kindness of Mr. Xantop, he offered me his tonight and he has it here with him. Are the police officers wearing them? Yeah, I'm wearing one right now, Chad. Okay. But my question is that all officers are wearing them at all times while there are they are on duty.

Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. The only time that officers um if an detectives going out to interview somebody, something like that, if it's not if it's a plane close situation, it might not be feasible, but our officers in uniform uh that are out on the streets uh and every interaction they have with a motorist or a complaint, uh they will activate their body cameras. Well, there there were some pretty fierce protests in the state capital during CO and you know the Bulgarity flu the u aggressiveness I mean it was just ugly. So that's all on body camera.

Yeah. Yeah. As long as it's turned on and uh which is what the officers should be doing when they have those situations. Yes. I'm all for it. Thank you. get a little closer to the mic.

Yeah, I didn't turn it on. So, so we're going to move on to Brownfield. Um, our budgeted revenues for fiscal year 26 is $818,800. Um, that's made up of property taxes. Um, the Eagle grant for courthouse site, that kind of depends on the project timeline. Um, it's been this year it was a little slower. They ran into some items that they didn't expect. So, we're kind of slowed down. We'll have to see next year if they stay on schedule or how that goes. And then, um, we have interest income of 55,600,000. We have budgeted expenditures of $785,500. Um, that's made up of the tax capture that we return to MITC. Um, there's professional and contractual services. That would be auditing fees, engineering, planning, legal services and then the remediation activities of 465,100 which pertains to courthouse grill again. So that will depend on uh their timing and how their project moves forward during the year. So to compare the brownfield to from fiscal year 2025 to 2026. Next slide, Bob. Um the revenues for 2026 is $818,800 and the amended budget is a million $52,400 which is a decrease in revenue of $233,600 or 22%. The expenditures for the 2026 budget is $875,500 with an amended budget so far this year of 1,51900

which is a decrease in expenditures of 266,400 or 25.3%. So, some of the highlights for the Brownfield fiscal year 2026 budget um would be the courthouse grill project. There there is a grant of 525,000 which um reimbursements are based on expenditures. There's a loan that has not been drawn on um that comes into play a little bit later depending on their project timing. Um repayment would start 5 years after the first draw and then uh construction will continue through fiscal year 2026 and the budget will be amended as needed based on the the timeline and how the project moves along. So the fiscal year 2026 fund balance for the brown field we have a projected ending balance of 1,700,151,000. There are budgeted revenues of 818,800 with expenditures of 7855, which would bring us down to a fiscal year 2026 ending fund balance of 1,733,451. So, moving on to to water and sewer. um fiscal year 2026, we have um a total of budgeted revenues of 14,541,800. Um that's made up of the various charges for services, donated infrastructure, interest expense, any penalties, and then intergovernmental revenue. So there

are uh water and sewer does some services for other funds. So there is um money coming back in for services to planning and services to the supervisor's office. We have um budgeted expenditures of 20,652,400 and that would be the expenditures in excess of revenues of $6,110,600. So those budgeted expenditures if we move over to the next slide we will see a little bit better what makes most of that up. So for the revenue side, we uh budgeted a 3% increase for starting September 2026. That would have to go to the board. That was just a placeholder at this point in time. So as of September 1st, 2025, there was a 3% increase and we also budgeted a 3% on top of that for the following year. Um the capital outlay for 2026 totals 4,155,000. That is made up of um the PRV replacement, a vac dump truck, a vehicle replacement, the fivemile water tank and distribution project, and the Ridge Road sanitary sewer. We also have 1,235,000 in land and building improvements. Those would be the uh DPW parking lot and driveway replacement, a vector pad, a storage yard and cleaning, building repairs, and then some miscellaneous expenditures. I'm not clear, Carol, on uh how are we

um spending $6 million more than we're taking in. I didn't hear the whole question. The budget, um the expenditures are $6 million in excess of revenue. Yes. Where where is where most of that is made up in these items right here. Tell us about u Patrick

the capital outlay and the land improvements are 105% of the um expense increase. So Patrick can give you some details on uh the expenditures. Let's start with the five mile water tank and distribution. That's the Jones development, right? That's correct. That and the last bullet, the Ridge Road sanitary sewer. So, that last bullet and the five mile water tank and distribution, those are the MITC uh projects, but we're not tell it's a complex.

It's a complex, but we get reimbursed, I guess. Uh the spending is being funded by times through the to the tiff the tax increment through through the brownfield through the MITC brownfield we'll get reimbursed for that. Right. Correct. But Jones is fronting the money. Correct. So these

Yeah. We talked this was presented not too long ago where the Jones is paying for part of it and we're paying for this amount and for this amount we get um through the tax increment reimbursement over so many years. So that that's really what's driving this huge expenditure I think are those two items that pertain to the MITC. The Ridge Road sewer is a to be determined. We No, I I think Yeah. Well, it depends. We don't know exactly when we're going to do that

and it will occur whether it's again paid by us through the MITC or it's paid by a developer, I guess, is the outstanding question. We're assuming that it would be paid by us through the MITC just like the uh water tank. Yeah, this is one of the disadvantages of MITC with it is a tiff, so the money is paid back, but uh it would be or would have been better to have the developers pay a larger share, but that was set up years ago when the MITC was launched that there is less uh direct funding from developers than what I would like to see, but So, I I think that's the bulk of the um the increase. The other large increase has to do with our Port Street building, DPW's facility at on Port Street.

Could you speak up a little bit? I didn't I'm sorry. The I think the other um significant expenditure that we're planning pertains to the uh DPW facility on Port Street. Um, we have to make improvements to that facility, including an entire new driveway and parking lot. Sure. So, does that fall under the land improvements or is the parking lot is only the land improvement part of it? The other changes? Well, that that's an item under the uh land improvement uh building and land charge account. That's something that's urgent or can be pushed off to another year?

We've had that we have had these items shelfd for five six years now. So they they're desperately needed. The building is 35 years old. Correct. Yeah. But we will I can assure you I will be managing these closely. We we may or may not do some of these. It'll it'll be a judgement call budget. You're like I need to do the roof. I need to do this. And then you you push something kick the can down the road a little bit longer.

We we may based on how the pricing comes in uh can you know economy if there's a slump and contractors are more competitive then you're more inclined we'll do maybe more. If they're hyper expensive like they want to be over the last five years then you will do less. uh we'll only do what is mandatory, but we're starting to clean up the building and uh um give it some um maintenance that is overdue. But we're going to be careful. We don't want to spend overspend. And you you know me, I don't let go of a quarter except to get a tighter grip.

Yeah, we're all learning that. What is the PRV? That's a pressure relief valve, right? Yes. Yes, that's the pressure reducing valve and the one we're assessing is the um the one that's feeding um uh the western half of the township pretty much everything west of Sheldon Road more or less and um that five mile in Sheldon. Yes. Yes. And and that's an important PRV um uh that we have to likely replace with the importance of the MITC tank also coming online. It's a major feed and um

and the Great Lakes doesn't provide the greatest pressures. So, we really have to focus on that pressure reducing valve to make sure we're getting optimal pressures from them. This is the one we're currently kicking off. an engineering study with Hubble Roth. Correct. So, we're we're spending pre-spending $15,000 something like that to do some engineering study to see what the optimum solution is for maintaining pressures. And the PRV, pressure reducing valve is what that stands for.

That's correct. If you recall, two or three years ago, we we replaced a PRV at Northville Road. So, this would be perhaps similar to that type of project. Find one. Let's say there was a right over there. Will you pass that Kleenex box down there? Ah,

thank you. You're welcome. just take it. Um I have a question about water rate increase. I got a phone call from somebody Yeah. who bent my ear and said that their bill actually started in June even though it was invoiced in September. So how are we timing the um revenue? Do we really get revenue for water used in June, July, August but invoiced in September? Yeah, I learned I learned this. She She hit me up first. Uh, and I eventually sent her to you because uh, she was being So, what she said was true.

It what she said was true and I learned something new. So, what happened is if we raise water rates September 1st and you get a September 1st bill, it actually applies to June, July, and August. So it applies in a rears and I don't think we ought to be doing that. No. So we'll have to has something to do with the water billing algorithm. Correct. Well, it's uh it's because the billing system can't the date

they can't split it up. So I think what we're going to have to do in the future is um pass we're going to have to calculate the rates in the spring and make them effective 3 months in ad in advance. and down the line so that everybody can catch up because I got hit with it too and I I never knew this. Um and when she she came after me first and was pretty vicious and then um uh I had some dialogue with Kelly and found out that that was actually true. Yeah, we're going to have to study that because Yeah, because the way we word our resolution

resolutions in the future. Wait, it's got to be So, we're going to have to check into that and sort it out for next year. But I'm glad that person figured it out. They were on their game. They calculated every penny on their bill. Yeah. And then gave me a big kick in the rear end. All right. Um, any other highlights that you want to bring forward, Patrick? I don't believe so. I mean, that's the capital outlay and the uh, like I mentioned, the land and building improvements are the are the highlights. So,

okay. So, moving forward to compare. Okay, we can jump to net position. So, the net position for um fiscal year 2025, we're projecting um 75,859,255 based on our 26 revenues of 14,541800 and our budgeted expenditures of 20,652400 should leave us with a 2026 ending fund balance of 69,000. 74869,748,655.

That That's not a fund balance. That's a value of all the assets. Value of all the assets. All right. Yes. We'd be dripping with money if that was the fund balance. The fund balance will go from 20 million to 15 million basically. Something like that. And change 20.6 to 15.5. That's your budgeted expenditures. Oh. I don't know if there's a fund balance. Would you take is your 20 24 ending fund balance, add in your

um amended budget for 25, which would give us our starting point for 26, back out expenses, add in revenues, and that would be our ending fund balance. Right. It's not in this document, right? It's right there.

Okay, that's fine. Okay. So, done with Patrick. Moving on to the rubbish fund. So, we have for fiscal year 2026 total revenues of 1,795,300. Um, the majority of that is made up of billing to the residents and we used a a figure of 8,900 residential pickups for uh the revenue. Um the person in rubbish does provide services to the park and services to storm water. So there is some intergovernmental revenue to repay the rubbish fund for her time. Uh we have budgeted expenditures of 1,724,000 which leaves us revenues in excess uh of expenditures of $71,300. There is not really any changes to down one more. There we go. No significant changes in revenue expenditures when we compare to the fiscal year 2025 amended budget.

Okay. So we have two years remaining on the contract. I think I think it's right October of 2027 is when it will end and when that happens this fund will get my judgment is that prices will move up significantly. Yeah. Right now we're getting a very competitive rate. Right.

Okay. So, comparing 25 to 26, um, we're showing an increase in revenue of $74,100 or 4.3%. And an increase in expenditures of $54,400, which would be a 3.3 increase in expenses. So, our fund balance, also known as net position for 2025, we're projecting um an ending balance of $751,964 with our budgeted revenues of a million175 795300 expenditures of 1,724,000 would leave us with a projected ending fund balance of 823,26. $64. Moving on to senior transportation. So this fund provides transportations to the seniors in Plymouth Township in the city of Plymouth and we allocate the costs based on writership. Generally that falls with the city of Plymouth's wrership approximately 60 to 65%. The different revenue sources are the tokens purchased for the rides. Um there's a CDBG annual grant which uh is about is $8,500. And then um

that's federal money. And the monthly billings to the the city of Plymouth um rounding up is approximately uh $100,000 annually. our ridership from township residents is continuing to drop a lot.

So there are new senior buses. Um they were purchased with ARPA funds. Um there is a depreciation expense now associated with those new buses. of the previous vehicles were fully depreciated and didn't have any um depreciation expenses and there has no been no signific significant changes in the revenue or expenditures compared to the amended 2025 budget. Okay,

so some of the budgeted revenues for 2026. Next slide. That would be the city of Plymouth's portion, Plymouth Township, the tokens that are sold, the CDBG revenues, and then interest comes interest income earned on uh the funds for senior transportation, and then the budgeted expenditures are 156,600, leaving revenues in excess of expenditures of 12,000. 900.

So now that interest um does any of that acrue to the city? No. So we don't true that up? No. Okay. The 94,000 that's from the city of Plymouth. Exactly. What is that? I mean I know that they we look at the writers every month. So we get a report and tells us how many road of the riders were for Plymouth Township and how many for the city. So we know the percentages based on each month and then we take the expenditures every month and then whatever their the total of expenditures were we charged them for their percentage based on the wrership every month.

They also get the community development block grant of what is it? $20,000. We get $20,000. Okay. that comes this that's in addition to or separate from this 94,000. Yes. The the the the 8500 the 8500 you see on here is this but that's the townships. I'm asking about the city's community development block grant. Where is their money reflected? Because it's my understanding what I'm told is that they gave the entire block grant funds to senior transportation. Well, they may do that in the N maybe part of the 94.

They may get the grant and they what they're paying they say that they apply it to an offset in their books. I don't know what they're doing. So, we don't get a direct No, if if they have a block grant from city of Plymouth, if they're doing it, it's in their monthly they're spending it in the monthly fee. So, so they're just putting putting that to the expense basically and reimbursing, right? Okay. So, we get $20,000 from the federal government. 8,500 goes to transportation. 11,500 goes to programming essentially, right? The program that's run by

uh Plymouth Community Council on Aging. Council on Aging. Yes. Yes. So we get the the 20,000 that can comes and gets split up. 115 goes to the council on aging. 8,500 goes over to help pay for the driver salaries. Okay. Thank you.

Okay. So that takes us to senior transportation net position. So the 2025 projected ending is $21,926. We have revenues of 1695 and Bob might get there before I finish. And then expenditures of $156,600 which leaves us with a fund balance of $214,826 for senior transportation. Okay.

Any questions? Any questions from the audience?

All right. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Uh number four, we're going to number three. Number three. Oh, number three. Yes. uh is the common ground uh agreement between the township and Chief Nitel will summarize this.

Thank you, Mr. uh supervisor. Uh very quickly uh 988 uh through common ground uh is a national uh telephone number for mental health and crisis management. Very similar to 911 but it focuses on emotional and behavioral emergencies. It connects people directly to uh trained crisis counselors 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Police Department still responds uh when there's a safety concern, but this help this uh system helps reduce the unnecessary law enforcement involvement when they're when we're not needed. Uh by signing this memorandum of understanding between 911 and 988, we're making sure that these calls are handled uh appropriately by the right people and improves outcomes and keeps everyone safe. This uh document codifies our commitment to coordination with the appropriate response for a mental health uh type situation.

Do we already have is this something new or do we already have this in place? No, this is a system that we've used. Uh it's been successful. It's a national program. Um they reached out to us and it was basically time for the MU to be updated. So do we provide any funding for this? No, I don't believe so. No, not based on the use or anything like that. No, I don't believe so. I don't have Wonder where they get their money. I think it's comes from uh the telecom bills. You mean like 911? Yeah. So, does Conference of Western Wayne administer this for us or No, they're involved with it. To what degree, I'm not sure.

Okay. All right. So, we need a a motion. Mr. Supervisor, I move to approve resolution number 2025-10-14-81 to adopt the attached memorandum of understanding between the Charter Township of Plymouth and Common Grounds Michigan Crisis and Access Line Mike. Second second. Oh, we need a roll call. Already seconded. So Bob Dav second. Bob. Okay, Bob. Thank you. You tried to oversee me. I did. I seconded your second. He did it quietly. Yeah. Um, clerk Bora, yes. Trustee Clinton, yes. Trusty Stewart,

yes. Trusty Buckley, yes. Trusty Grove, yes. Supervisor Kermy, yes. Treasure Davis, motion carries. Isn't that the name of a coffee common ground? Something like that. Um, I have a process check. Uh Laura Simpson, did we miss doing a resolution for the consent agenda? Yes, we did. Oh, that for the consent agenda for this that first item for Big B. Yes, that was separate. It was separate. It was separate. Let's see. Hold on. It's under the consent agenda. Yeah, it is. But it does have a resolution, right?

Right. And we did not do a resolution for you know how we do a blanket resolution. We didn't do that. Okay. So, we do a blanket. Did you do a roll call on the So, tell us what we need to do to fix it so we don't have to do a redo in the future. We want to fix it tonight. We We do need to approve the resolution. So, Oh, the big B. Yeah. But it was in the consent agenda. So, storm water agreement. Yeah. Wasn't that big B is storm water? But did we do roll call? We did a roll call on it. We did. Yeah, we're done. Yeah, we're okay. You got what you need in the minutes? Got what we need. All right.

Want to be sure. Okay. Yes. Um, so since we're going to go to a close session, uh, we're going to do we got to do number four. We got F4. Yes. F4. Duh. Depositories.

Oh, yep. I brought that up and then we forgot about it. Okay. Go ahead, Bob Davis. uh uh an annual thing to approve the depositories where our money is. Um the only change is the addition of Fifth Third Bank which uh you may have seen in the news they they're in process of acquiring Coma. Um so I added them and uh that's that. Do these banks uh give us a break on fees because we are we a large depositor?

Yeah, we're pretty sizable and uh yeah, they give us pretty pretty good breaks on fees. They give us decent interest. So that so there'll be the banking industry will be less competitive with Coma combining with Flagstar then right with Fifth Third Fifth Third

and Flagstar was acquired by uh a bank out of New York about uh I think about 18 months ago and um but they kept the name Flagstar and they're not as healthy as the rest. Uh there's the bank out of New York that acquired them was heavily leveraged leveraged uh in uh rent controlled residential real estate in New York City. And uh so they um they're they're doing okay, but they're not doing they're not they're rated uh like a BB minus.

Do you think we need to review that after the election coming up? I mean, that could have an impact. Sorry, say that again. With the election coming up in New York City, I mean, that can cause uh with the candidates, it could because they have so much rent controlled mortgages. No. Well, the they're proposing that people are they're proposing particular. Yeah. Candidate is Yeah. The communist that one.

Yeah. One thing that one comment is that that I have is it's disheartening to see that we have no significant banks based in Southeast Michigan or Detroit anymore since America left. Yeah. That it has a long-term effect because we're dealing with people who don't understand especially the auto industry and how it works. And so they're less willing to loan. uh whereas when the banks understood uh tool making and other things and the long chain of receivables they would loan against those receivables. Exactly.

So they're this is uh more disheartening that we don't have any Detroit banks. So we need to ready for a motion. I move to approve resolution 2025-10-14-82 authorizing the proposed depositories for the chart of Plymouth for the calendar 2026. Second and a second by Growth. Okay. Um Trusty Buckley, yes. Trusty Clinton, yes. Supervisor Kermy, yes. Trusty Treasure Dorchez, yes. Trusty Growth, yes. Trusty Stewart, yes. Clerk Forva. Motion carries.

So, any uh public comments on any item? Because we're not when we come back here, you might be sleepy bears, so we might as well do it now while everybody is here. Any public comments? Any board comments?

Yes. in particular. It's not comments as much as it is questions that I have um that I'm directing to the uh chief of police. And uh my questions have to do with with your monthly report. Trying to find my form of questions. Um ba basically um you indicated in your report that we've hired six new police officers and that brings us to full staff. I would like to know I would like you to define what is full staff and how is full staff arrived at. Is it something that's in the union contracts? Who determines what the staffing level is in the police department?

The the board through the budget process. Yeah. The board through the budget process. Yeah. Those were funded positions. Okay. And so what you're saying is that the previous board approved funding to add six police officers. No, they no. So we were down police officers. Those are filling vacant positions. So how many police officers do we have now? 33. 33. Okay. Now we have several police officers who are assigned. For instance, uh I know we have an officer assigned with um Homeland Security. Homeland Security, right?

Yeah. We don't currently we did not well I didn't I did not fill that position because we were so short-handed. So when Tom Champagne uh was promoted, uh that spot was has been vacant. Okay. And we also have a vacant detective position right now uh that that will be filled once we get uh folks trained and uh able to fill positions on the road. So you're talking about like internal promotion, correct? We won't be hiring more people off the street based on the current status. Okay. 33 is the 2025 budgeted number of people. Correct. Is that correct? Yes, sir.

And we were down that's an increment. I forgot how many of that is. That was an increment of one or two from 2024. two two all right so there used to be 31 traffic officer and the administrative there was 31 and we've gone to 33 okay now I we when we have an officer assigned to homeland security or the drug enforcement team

whatever it happens to be does that officer still come in here and do regular township police officer work or are they assigned specifically to Homeland Security as as an example where they're not here. Um I want to understand Yeah. Sure. Yeah. So a task force officer is assigned Homeland Security task force officer be assigned to the homeland security. So a majority of their time they would be assigned to a group. Okay.

Um and our homeland security officer uh is assigned to a uh money laundering group. Um, and our drug enforcement administration officer is assigned to a federal uh uh narcotics investigation task force uh with the DEA. So, uh we do see them. If there's any narcotics tips that come in or anything to do with narcotics in Plymouth Township, they handle those situations. Uh our task force officer with Homeland Security Investigation uh provides uh extensive training to our seniors on fraud presentations. We've given presentations at the uh friendship station. We've given presentations Bradberry, our lady, good council, independence uh village. Um so we uh that is uh uh education as part of that. Uh but their primary duty is enforcement. Uh when they're task force officers, they have been given the authority of Homeland Security or Drug Enforcement Administration to enforce federal laws uh anywhere in the world. And uh but uh yeah, they are uh they report back uh to me. I meet with their group supervisors, both of them on a quarterly basis. I meet with their assistant special agent in charges. Um also on a quarterly basis to determine uh how uh they are impacting the group, what what kind of significance they have uh to their groups. Caitlyn Nicely is our detective. This is charge of drug enforcement administration. been told by uh her uh both her group supervisor and assist assistant special agent in charge that she's one of the most productive task force officers they have. Uh Tom Champagne was uh elected two years ago to be the task force officer of the year for homeland security investigations. So uh they are um you know we see them but uh not on a daily basis. So there so they're not when we say there are 33 if you have the two assignments that's part of the 33.

Correct. The task force officer and the and so basically they're they're not present here. They're what you're saying is there's not two more officers on the road. Right. What I'm saying is they're not really doing local police work type things. They're they're specific. Their focus is specific. Yeah, they're and it's outside of here and then they supplement our patrol officers with depending on the investigations our homeland security investigator uh has worked very high level uh identity theft investigations particularly ones that go across state lines or out of the country. So they work those type of investigations but 33 also is a number from top to bottom that includes me

that includes you. Okay. So when um like when like we did the li event, the livid event, do those officers are they part of the overtime? Do do they come in and work those type of events? Every officer in our department um either work the road or work the event. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Every single one. Okay. Um and then my other question has to do with uh uniforms. I know there was a time that uh firefighters, I believe police officers also got us a yearly clothing allowance.

That's changed from what I understand. And now we just pay the cost of their uniform needs. Are there limits on what we're paying?

Yeah, we have a budgeted number. Uh we evaluate the officers. Uh we have inspections. Uh we inspect their equipment that's on there uh as well as uh their their uh all the equipment that's on there, their pants, their shirts, uh their winter wear, all those things. And then we make decisions on uh what needs to be replaced. You know, the demand for me is that they shine their shoes, they get their car washed every day, uh and that they look good in uniform. So we make sure that happens and we always work very hard to be within our budget. Uh we had some uh because of live golf which we are getting reimbursed for we had some additional uh clothing that we had to purchase that we would not have had to uh but that was all part of the uh what we build live golf for.

Okay. So you so all of that was covered in the billing? Yes. Okay. So um and we have I just mentioned this too. We we also have through our contract our plane close officers uh do get a stipen for um so we don't supply the plane close officers with what they wear uh but they are uh per the contract they are allotted x amount of dollars a year as well so each one is allowed to spend up to whatever that amount is that that that's what I want to know is there a limit and is it being monitored to ensure compliance with Lieutenant Krebs who's in charge of the patrol division monitors that in charge Lieutenant Ryan Krebs Okay.

He and it's a daily uh our sergeants on each of the shifts. We have four shifts. We're on 12-hour shifts. Each of the sergeants uh are evaluating that on a daily basis and we make a determination if there's a hole in the pants or there's something needs replaced and uh then we get it replaced. Okay. I just wanted to understand how that works because I see when I look at the bills I see the expenses and I just wanted to be sure someone is overseeing and holding them accountable. Okay. what is done with the used clothing?

Um the if we're able to donate it, we don't donate anything with a patch on it or anything like that, but um you know, if we're able to to donate it, we can certainly do that. A lot of it is just not usable anymore. So, it's discarded. But we have that uh uh Halloween costume simple re simple simple life. Yeah. Simple recycling. They will take it even if it's has holes in it because then they you it gets ground up and used for the fiber gets reused. Okay. So, we could have them pick it up. Okay. It's still around. Oh, yeah. You can you go on their website and you they'll pick up uh I had them pick up at my house 3 months ago.

I'm going to do that. So, it's they'll also take worn stuff. They they prefer it to be good stuff, but things that it's worn are turned into, you know, insulation or if it's polyester, they use that fiber to make new things out of polyester, clothing and things like that. Other clothing, it's plastic. That's one of the largest reasons we have plastic in our water because when you wash your clothes, the polyester flakes off into the washing machine and ends up in the sewer system. But

that's if you wear a lot of polyester. So, I just had one other question and it is not to you. You answered the questions. Thank you. Uh I noticed on the bills there were there was like an $18,000 and a $17,000 payment. One having to do with replacement trees for homeowners and then one is for subdivisions. Do we have some kind of uh an agreement? How what determines that and our responsibility to do this?

We don't. Well, we have that we call it a tree fund, but it's not a fund. It's not a designated pot of money. It's in the general fund. And the money is coming from, for example, Meyer as part of their consent agreement gave us $100,000 worth of trees. So, that's or when developers cut down a heritage tree that is uh 2 feet in diameter, they have to pay cash to replace that. or they could plant a lot of trees, but typically there isn't enough room on the property to plant enough trees to replace a 2-ft diameter oak tree. So, that's where the money is coming from. and Sarah Visa administers the program and the tree is free uh to homeowners and homeowners associations but they must be if they go to a homeowner they must be planted in the public rightway which is the area between the curb and the sidewalk. Uh homeowners can plant them in common areas.

Okay. Has Yeah. Homeowners association, excuse me. Has Okay. I have a dead tree and where you're speaking of and so I can get a new tree planted. Yes. Get on the list and uh crumble uh will plant them for $125, but uh the trees are not that big. If it was me, I'd plant it with my kids. Yeah. Uh get a little upper body strength from digging a hole. But I I just wanted to understand why we do that and and what that's about. So the reason why is to use it's part well it's also part of the tree city requirement that we do something with trees. Okay.

Um we also keep track of every tree we trim any money we spend that goes into our report to the tree city people. They require that you spend a certain amount of money per year on tree maintenance. Okay. And what trees do they plant? What variety? Mhm. uh a kind of a it's a hardwood but not a real hardwood. Uh like autumn maple turns red. Uh they're doing a tulip tree which is uh also known as a tulip popppler. Next year I think I'm going to ask to have red oak for example, but they're they're native trees. Pine trees. They are doing pine. Pine.

Yeah. Six feet tall. Very nice. Oh, nice. like a con color would be a great that's a white fur. It's also known as con color is a great tree. You don't want to plant um Colorado blue spruce because they get a disease and die pretty quick. So they're uh so you have to plant something that's resistant to that needle cast disease and con color is one of them and plus they look real good and they grow pretty fast. Best Christmas tree around if you have one in your house. They'll hold their lay their needles for 90 days. It's incredible. Thank you.

All right. Go ahead, John. Three points. Um very glad to uh receive the announcement that Stalantis is building is investing $13 billion in the United States. Stalantis, which has major plants uh over in Warren. Um, secondly, I want to compliment and thank the supervisor for following the state budget, which aggregate is less this year than last year. Um, we have a decrease in revenue sharing, $75,000 anticipated.

And finally, uh, I want to compliment Pat Beldra for a summary. Brevity is a blessing. And Carol Rishan, uh, whom I met with yesterday morning at 8:30 to go over the bills, uh, is our new finance director, and I think she is highly competent and I do appreciate her professional services. I'm sorry, there's one thing I forgot to say. Uh there is a group of people that are that is forming a steering committee to look at um where the senior programs can go from here. and um that that committee really is meeting and we're trying to work on finding ways to deal with the needs of the seniors and the programs and all of that stuff separate from government um funding and and that type of thing. So Dansin is part of it. Uh the PCCA members are part of it. I'm part of it and and certainly we'll be bringing more people on board, but we're trying to move forward with keeping the senior programs where they need to be moving forward and not having to rely on United Way or the city or the township government to do that. I just wanted to make that announcement. We are also going to be we're continuing to explore uh doing the work with the Wayne State geriatrics professor to gather some need survey information in conjunction with the city of Plymouth. I was not aware of this. Uh

that's why I'm telling you. I thought it'd be nice for you to know. Yeah, I would. Uh I think we have to have good communication so that we don't have duplication of effort. Right. Do you do you need a motion to go to close session? No, we need to have other people say things. So, go ahead.

Um, as you know, there was some discussion about the budget. Of course, we get less money in revenue. We're not going to get the same amount of money that we got for elections uh a year ago. We end up with almost $225,000 in election money. They're not going to pay for any of the early voting and stuff like that. So, that's all going to be on us. And uh there's also discussion in the legislature about moving up uh the primary from August to u to May and then that will impact a lot of things next year to declare for elections in the future. So we're kind of keeping an eye on on on that. And of course, you know that um Dominion has sold uh all of their interest to a new company called Liberty Vote. And so I don't know how that's going to impact any of our equipment uh or or anything that we have with Dominion right now for as far as um you know, repairs and maintenance and and all those kinds of things. And then whether or not there's going to be any state move to um up upgrade any of the uh election equipment uh that that may be in the offing also. So we we have some little unknown things there uh coming up in uh as far as elections is concerned.

I hope we don't have to buy more equipment. If we do I I say revert to paper. No chance. Raise your hand. All right. Um, go ahead, Bob. I've got nothing. So, on your email in regards to the cost or the revenue sharing decrease of 7 constitutional. Yeah. Um, you asked for any suggestions on ways to save money and I remember you sent Bob sent an email I was a couple years ago about a township that cut to 4 days a week. Do you remember this? Michigan. They cut the pay or they they No, they just were open only four days a week,

right? Which in this case, unless you lower people's wages, you won't save money. Well, that was the question is how much would we save just on random not paying, but utilities other utilities? I don't know. We don't have a very sophisticated HVA system. HB. If I can find that email, I I want to explore that just because they they that was one of their tools for cutting. Yeah, I'd like to hear how it saved money. I on its surface I can't see it because a lot of people like the treasurer's office would probably be open maybe. Oh, I mean um

Monday through Thursday you pay your bills. Do you remember the email you sent? No, I was like, well, there there are communities in the area that have I might I I'm not denying. I just don't recall. You might email, but I don't know where the savings. It's not We'd have to there's not We'd have to do some digging, but typically what happens is labor unions want to work less less hours but get paid for the same amount. So, that that's something that have to be juggled. But good good suggestion. Mark, anything?

I'm all set. All right. Um, you're probably wondering where the goats went. Well, with this dry weather and hot, it made the vegetation a little too dry for their taste buds. And so, the recommendation was wait till next year when it's more succulent. So, that's why the goats are not there. Um, they did a job out on Powell Road, which looked pretty good. Uh, so that was a learning experience. Powell Road in Huntington Park. Um, I know we've heard Carol Rashawn is our new finance director. We will be looking to backfill her position with someone with some accounting background that we could uh hopefully bring up to her position when she decides to retire. Um, we've had a retirement or will have a retirement in the fire department, uh, battalion chief Jim Hollywood Harold and, uh, he, uh, uh, will be retiring, and we will have two replacements. I mean, a person will replace the battalion chief, a promotion, and another promotion for captain that will be coming up in the next week to 10 days. Uh promotions in the fire department are based on seniority, not testing. So we know exactly who's going to be there uh based on time and grade.

Will we be hiring someone to to backfill? Oh yeah. Yeah. There will be in fact uh there might be somebody on the list already that uh has been uh vetted. Yeah. Somewhat preliminarily um screened. Um, any other earthshattering things? No. So, let's go. Do you want to need a motion? Go in close session. Okay. So, we need a How does this work now that you We got to do We got to do a motion. I I'll I'll start it at uh see it is now um 8 9

8:09 8:09 p.m. I moved uh that a close session be called for the purpose of consultation with attorneys under section 81H of the Michigan Open Meetings Act section Michigan Capile Laws 15.2681H for the following purposes. Motion to vacate the judgment for the L car wash property on Ann Arbor Road. And we need a second. Second. You. Okay. Clinton. Second. Okay. We roll call. Supervisor Kermy. Yes. Treasure D Evans. Yes. Clerk Borva. Yes. Trusty Buckley. Yes. Trusty Clinton. Yes. Trusty Growth. Yes.

Trusty Stewart. Motion carries. We're in close session. So for the benefit of the people at home and are here, we will be coming back and voting in public on this.

November. It's more here. I'll unmute us.

You are on a power trip with that cattle. Mr. Supervisor, it is 8:34. I move that the board return to open session. I need a second. Second. Second by Buckley. And we need a roll call. Supervisor Kermy. Yes. Treasure Davitz. Yes. Clerk Forba. Yes. Trusty Buckley. Yes. Trusty Clinton. Yes. Trusty Grove. Yes. Trusty Stewart. We're back in We're back in session. I would like to make Mr. Supervisor, I would like to make a motion that we direct the township attorney to continue to oppose the motion to vacate the judgment.

Second. U before we go, is that what you is that the proper wording? You may want to be a little more specific. Say uh the judgment uh that was entered in 1980 uh under title Cal Calvin Rock versus Charter Town Charter Township of Plymouth. Okay. So, I move to direct the township attorney to continue to oppose the motion to vacate the judgment from 1980 Calvin Rock versus Plymouth Township versus Plymouth Township. Second. Second by Clinton. Okay, we need a roll call for that. Uh, Trusty Stewart, yes.

Trusty Grove, yes. Trusty Clinton, yes. Trusty Buckley, yes. Yes. Clerk Borba. Yes. Treasure Dorchevitz. Yes. Supervisor Kermy. Yes. Motion carries. So it was unanimous. Yes. It was. Uh Mr. Supervisor, I move for the adjournment at 8:36. Second. Second by Clinton. All in favor? I. We are We are closed. We're ajourned.