Board - Regular Meeting

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Call to order, Charter Township of Plymouth Board of Trustees regular meeting Tuesday, January, June 9th, 2026, 6.30 p.m. We have a new sound system, so we're learning how to use it. So we may fumble around a little bit, or if you can't hear us, make sure you tell us. What'd you say? Well, this takes one. All right, so roll call. Who's going to do that, Ashley?

It's going to be me. Yes, yes. So, Supervisor Kermy? Here. Kim Gadeka? Here. Treasurer Dorshevitz? Here. Trustee Buckley? Here. Trustee Stewart?

Here.

Trustee Clinton?

Here.

Trustee Groth? Here.

Pledge of Allegiance. to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Oh my gosh.

So may I have a motion to approval of the agenda?

I move that we approve the agenda as presented for Tuesday, June 9th, 2026. Can you hear?

So do we have a... Second. All right. We just need to have an up or down on this, right? Correct. Are you going to do it or you want me to? All in favor? All in favor, say aye.

Aye.

All opposed, nay. All right. So now approval of the consent agenda.

Before we do that, Mr. Supervisor, I have a couple of questions. I have submitted to Clerk Gaitica the corrections that need to be made to the minutes of May 12th because of typographical corrections, and then there's one correction on the words on a motion and I gave it to her. This is, it's one page, but it's a lot of typos and that type of thing. So I would like to recommend that we just pull that from the consent agenda and wait and let her make the corrections and we can approve those minutes at the next meeting.

All right, what page are they on?

Is it 21, 22? They're on page three, page four, page six, page seven, page line five. Okay, so several. It's a lot. Page two.

Okay. 12 minutes. So, we need to remove.

Just May 12th minutes.

All right. All in favor of approving the consent agenda without the May 12th regular meeting minutes?

Why is that? I didn't catch why we're removing it. Because there's a page worth of corrections.

Type of graphical errors.

Oh, and so she, I mean, we could go through them and then say, you know, to make a motion to approve them as, you know, with these changes, or we could just remove it and then bring it up the next. and I think it might be more efficient just to bring out at the next meeting with the corrected version. Sure.

So, do we have a second for that?

Second.

All in favor? Well, who made the motion?

Yeah. Yes, I made the motion.

I can't second it. So then we need a second. I'll second. Who's second? Okay. All in favor of approving the consent agenda with May 12th minutes out? Say aye.

Aye. Aye.

Aye. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE ARE TWO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, AND ONE OF THEM IS APPOINTING KIM GATECA, THE CLERK, AS OUR REPRESENTATIVE ON THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. AND KIM, DO YOU WANT TO WOULD IT BE MORE EFFICIENT IF WE SWORE YOU IN IN THE OFFICE OR YOU WANTED TO DO IT TODAY?

In the office is fine.

Okay, that way we'll speed things up. Yeah. All right, so since we have a resolution, we need a roll call. So... You need a motion? Yeah, we need a motion to approve the consent agenda. I thought we already did, but maybe because we have a resolution, do we have to... We have to do a roll call, so we got to do it over. All right.

Yeah, so the motion should be that the motion to remove the May 12th minutes from the consent agenda.

Mm-hmm.

That's the first vote. The second vote would be to approve the amended consent agenda, and that would be through a roll call, and then that would cover both items one and items two, items two requiring... 2A and 2B. Yeah, and if you do a roll call, then that covers all the entire consent agenda. Right.

So that sounds like a good plan. I agree. I will make that motion.

Right.

Exactly as he said. We're approving the consent agenda with the minus the May 12th regular minutes.

And do we have a second? And then we'll do a roll call vote. Second. Second. Buckley?

All right. And then we'll take a roll call vote? Yeah. All right. Jen Buckley?

Yes.

Mark Clinton? Yes. Charles Crummey? Yes. Bob Dershowitz? Yes. Sandy Groth? Yes. John Stewart? Yes. Kim Gatica? Yes.

So, this is the public comment section. And we're going to, we prefer you to only speak about non-agenda items, but if you can't or don't want to, You can speak about... Your communications and report.

Pardon? You've got communications and reports in section three.

That's part of the consent agenda, right? Oh, okay. Item three? I apologize.

Not based on the numbers.

Not based on the numbers, but the consent agenda is... Oh, I see how you did it. That might be a... Yeah. The bills are part of the consent agenda and the accept and the communications agenda and then the two resolutions. Gotcha, okay. And it's all part of it. So the numbering is a little wonky there.

Where are the bills listed on the agenda?

It's number four.

Okay, all right.

Number four is the bill summary. Okay. Are there any questions on the bills?

I had a few questions on the bills. All right. In particular, there's a payment of $7,900 to ESCI. And the bill indicates that they are 60% completed with their project that they're performing for us. And I'm curious to know if any further timeline is available as to when we might expect completion of that project.

I spoke with them today. There is a draft out for review that the fire chief has. And depending on how that draft goes, it could be A few weeks or if there's a lot of changes, it could be a month. Okay.

And then also I noted that we paid Senior Alliance $3,776 for our fiscal year 2026 community match. And I just wondered if someone could tell me exactly what the Senior Alliance does for our community.

They are predominantly spending the money on Meals on Wheels. and assistance when people call up with, you know, they're trying to get their social security sorted out or things like that, but Meals on Wheels, they send a report, we can get it for you. It tells the number of people they have served meal and how many meals on wheels they've.

So are they doing that in Plymouth Township?

Yes. Okay. Although in the past I've had to sort through it because they're using the zip code 48170. And so it takes some work to determine what they're really in Plymouth Township versus City or Salem. Because remember, the 48170 zip code goes into Northville Township, Salem Township, and Plymouth Township and Plymouth City.

That answers my questions. Thank you.

All right. Let's get back to item E, which is public comments. Prefer non-agenda items. So please be brief. Be truthful. BE CLEAR. ARE YOU GUYS BOTH TOGETHER? THANK YOU. OKAY, YOU'RE THE HELPER. YOU'RE THE SCRIBE. How did you get that up on the screen? She gave me a drive. Oh, she gave you a drive. Enforcement details. We have two documents each. All right. We're going to talk about 11309 Gold Arbor.

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Yep.

Okay. My name is Deborah Dooley. I live at 11324 Spicer Drive. On May 27th, I sent the Board of Trustees an email asking for help with a resident that lives behind me, including pictures of the violations. The address of the resident is 11309 Gold Arbor and has numerous complaints from myself and other neighbors regarding his weeds and debris around his unfinished garage project and yard. I encourage the board to visit BSNA to view the numerous violations dating back to 9-22 of 2005. BSNA is a tool to look up property records and property data, including inspection results as well as other things. I have presented the board with a copy of the data for 11309 Gold Arbor. I have gone through the proper steps for my complaints with the building department ordinance officer. However, the issues still continue every year. Upon review of BS&A, it looks like the resident has never been issued a citation for any of these violations. I would like to know why as they continue. This uses up resources in the building department, receiving complaints, contacting the property owner, and follow-up. Many hours that could be used elsewhere. The resident has a current building permit that expires on July 21st, 2026. At this time, there is no work being done on the garage. The original permit for the garage was issued on 8-16-2022. The Tyvac is ripped and blowing in the wind and making lots of noise on windy days. There is a pile of wood items and other debris on the north side of the home that has been piled up there for four years. On the south side driveway, the neighbor has complained to the building department on two occasions with no response. They have since put up four sections of six-foot wood fence to block their view of the debris in the driveway. The weeds are four foot tall in the southwest corner of his property. Last year, there were rats nesting in the tall weeds on the southwest corner of the property. Per the ordinance officer, these rats feed on dog feces, which the resident never picks up. This has been an ongoing issue every year. It needs to be resolved now. There are ordinances for noxious weeds and property standards that need to be followed by all Plymouth Township residents. To quote Scott Spielman, people who serve on township boards or city commissions are just neighbors helping neighbors, residents pitching in to improve their community. This is my second request to please help a neighbor. Thank you.

Thank you. I did communicate with the ordinance officer to find out if, in fact, he was authorized to issue citations And his response indicated that he was not, and that either the police department issues the citation or the attorney can do an order to appear in court. So I am appalled at how long this has gone with no correction. And I would really like to see I would like to make sure that the people that are charged with the responsibility of enforcing ordinances are actually enforcing them to ensure other residents don't have to come here and speak like you just did. So thank you. Thank you.

So we're working this issue. I had the ordinance officer in my office today. Thank you.

I don't know if you watched the pictures.

Oh, yeah, I did.

It's appalling.

I drove by it. I could see the backyard. I could see. Yeah, that's the back of the house.

Yeah, which faces the back of my house. Thank you. Oh, yes. He also owns a piece of property on Eastside Drive with numerous violations as well that he rents out.

Not a lack of funds to get it done, apparently.

So other people can enjoy his.

All right. So anyone else? Any time? Time?

There's supposed to be time here.

Oh. Where's my clock?

Mary Pine? Can you hear me? 48-year resident, after the recent theatrics, a paramount conclusion is that the residents need to pay attention to the township government. Please attend board meetings, watch them live, or replay them later on the township website. Long-term awareness and involvement would have provided insight into the possible whys of the recent shameful events. Who was threatened by Sandy's competency, character, and professionalism? She has consistently been the most responsible board member. Who resented a female with her outstanding traits? Is there anything questionable to be found in the clerk's office from Jerry Vorva and Curt Heisey's tenure? In Vorva's clerk office, was the clerk running the office or the employees? With former Treasurer Clinton and current Treasurer Doris Shevitz believing in their right to choose their own deputy, why did they make keeping Deputy Clerk Jefferson the sword to fall on? What was the importance of her being there and for whom? As stated, she was busy running for office last fall in Superior Township. In this performative attack, Bob, you took a hypocritical role as Shakespeare's Puck, a goblin-like creature. And to be clear, that is Puck, beginning with a P as in Papa, as you, Bob, have a history of distortion and going to the media who responds with bias. When we previously told you that your comments and jokes were not helpful, you stated, I can't help myself. Your written prepared statement at the end of the clerk discussion turned out to be a canned sound bite for the media, confirming by your fist bumping at the back of the room that night. Ironically, your prepared comments described your own behavior and deficiencies, not Sandy's professionalism, her holding employees to standards, and her intent of service, and her dedication to serving the residents. Bob, Jen, and Mark, your performative actions laid out a guide for our new clerk. You displayed your characters negatively. Your disrespect of clerk leadership was clear. Your pandering to staff was revealed. Your disregard for honesty and standards was exposed. The mustering of paid election employees waving the flag while brandishing pitchforks was informative. I think our new clerk, Kim, got the message and is up to the task. And Chuck, telling the taxpaying residents to be truthful, civic, and concise needs to be directed to pay Bob, Jen, and Mark to your right instead. And Bob, reflect on this instead of delivering your usual whining response. Thank you.

Anyone else? Are we on YouTube? Is it working? And you can hear us in the back of the room easily. All right. You have to give us a performance of you on the system before you leave.

Hi, guys. Bill Pine. I'm not really here to talk to you. I'm here to talk to the folks who are watching on YouTube and who are going to watch a recording in the next couple of days. I want to talk about the master plan. The Planning Commission has been working on an update for the master plan for quite some time. They issued a draft fairly recently. It's out for public comment. Public comment expires on June 22nd. There's also an open house scheduled, I think, for June 24th here from 4 to 7 with snacks. And then the planning commission's hearing on adoption on July 15th, I believe, at 7 p.m. The principal reason I'm here is it's really tough to find the master plan to be able to comment on it, so I'm going to tell you how to do it. To find the master plan, go to the township website. That's www.PlymouthTownshipMI.gov. You'll get seven pull-down categories across the top of the screen. Go to the third column, Government. Hover there. That'll give you three subordinate header columns, pull-down columns. Go to the one in the middle, Departments. Hover there. Then go down to Community Development, Planning, and Zoning. Click on that. Go down to the seventh item, master plan update. When that comes up, go to the middle of the page, click on the master plan 2026 draft, and you can actually look at it. The master plan, the draft master plan is long. It's like 110 pages. For the cliff notes, and it's got a lot of good information, but for the cliff notes, you can go to the strategic action plan, which begins on page 93. Please consider commenting. Please talk to your friends and neighbors. This is your opportunity to help assure that the township continues to head in the direction and maintains all the wonderful things that we've enjoyed in the past. The master plan needs to reflect the wishes of most of the residents, not the desires of the builders or the preferences of our planning supplier. You can express your opinions and concerns about high-density housing, heavier traffic, property values, taxes, and overall community ambience. Comments must be submitted by email to planning at plymouthtownshipmi.gov. Please make your wishes known. Thank you.

So I think we need to put this so it's on the home page.

It is on the home page.

It is on the home page, so you don't have to take that route. That'll make it easier. All right. So the home page, show us. Click on it, go down. If you go to home. Just click on the logo up there.

Click on the logo that always takes you to the home page. Scroll down. Write your latest news. Keep going down. On the home page, right there, master plan.

Yeah, on the left. Top left. All right. That makes it easier.

Oh, there you go.

All right, anyone else? Okay, let's move into new business. The first item is the audit for 2025 fiscal year, which is December 1, 2025 to December 31, 2025. And Allie Barnes, a partner in Yo & Yo, and our finance director, Carol Rochon will take us through this with some highlights. It's a long document. Go ahead.

All right, good evening, everyone. Happy to be here to present your audit results. As the supervisor commented, the actual audit report is several pages, so this is essentially the cliff note version for you. If you wanna go to slide two. So essentially, we are taking a look at the financial information of the township and evaluating compliance and internal controls. And at the end of all of that, we are issuing an audit opinion for you. So we have issued what's called an unmodified or clean audit opinion. It's the highest level of assurance that we can give you that the information presented in your financial statements has been presented in accordance with the rules that you're required to follow, and factoring in things like materiality. If you go to the next slide, we're going to cover some information on the general fund, then we'll talk about proprietary fund information, and then some long-term obligations. So here we have general fund revenues broken down by category for the past five fiscal years. Total revenue for 2025 was about 23.1 million in total. This was up about 2.2 million from the previous year. Looking across categories, property taxes generally increases at about the same increment. Intergovernmental has declined slightly, but not significantly. Some changes in grant funding recorded year over year. Charges for services remains pretty consistent. This year, licenses and permits did increase about 1.3 million. So that was where most of your 2.2 million overall increase stemmed from. And then in your all other category, there is some short or some long-term debt agreements that were entered into for public safety equipment of about 369,000. That was something new this year compared to the previous year. The next slide will be your general fund expenditures. These total just over 22 million for 2025. That was up roughly 750,000 from the previous year. General government expenditures actually decreased for the year. There was about $556,000 less in election costs for 2025, and then about 214,000 less in engineering costs. So some savings there for the township.

Allie, do you want us to hold our questions and comments?

Oh, I'm good either.

If you want to ask... Yeah, I just wanted to add that note that public safety represents about 72% of our spending. And on the revenue side, it is... The public safety millages, it's not called out there, but there's four millages on your tax bill. And that adds up to about $9 million. So we spend more on public safety than we take in on those millages.

And also with the decrease in the funding for the clerk's office, that's due to there not being an election this year?

Yes. Last year there was not an election, not this year. 2025. Yeah.

Also, we cut some things out, so it adds up.

Okay, public safety came in at just over $16 million in total expenditures. That was an increase from the previous year. A few things in there, obviously wages generally increase, and there was new contract percentages being paid out. but the larger piece of that was additional capital outlay this year of about 720,000. So vehicles, cameras, radios, various public safety equipment. And then your other categories essentially stayed flat this year. Next slide covers fund balance. So here you can see what your fund balance level in the general fund is compared to your revenues and your expenditures. So your total fund balance comes in at about 9.9 million. Of that, you have unassigned fund balance is your largest category, and that comes in at about 5.2 million. You'll see that overall, so the top line, the black line, fund balance increased about 958,000. and your unassigned fund balance was down just slightly, about a couple hundred thousand there.

So does that mean we underspend by about a million versus revenue?

Correct, it means you had more revenue coming in than expenditures going out, yep. So you essentially added to your savings, you could say. Next slide. Here you can see what fund balance has been doing in the general fund for the past several years. So from 21 to 22 and 22 to 23, fund balance was increasing. It did decrease in 2024. And then as I previously mentioned, it did increase again in 2025. Here you can also see all the categories of fund balance that the township has. The most significant is always the unassigned portion. Again, that was 5.2 million for this year. You do still have a small portion set aside in committed dollars, about 600,000. And then because of the building and permitting revenues coming in that have been quite significant, the restricted portion has been increasing. And that is at 3.5 million. About 2.7 of that is related to those construction code activity dollars. All right, we're gonna move into water and sewer activities. So here you have your operating revenues and expenses. Revenues came in at about 15.9 million and expenses about 13.3. We generally like to see a gap in between those so that you are, generating operating income so that you have dollars on hand for capital improvements. And so this year, the fund ended with unrestricted net position of about 29.4 million. And that's when you back out the net investment that is recorded in WTUA. And then we also like to look at what working capital looks like in this fund. So that's essentially we take all of the current assets, which in your case, the majority is in cash and investments and back out any current liabilities that gives us working capital. And that's about 26 and a half million You'll see that both of those increased pretty substantially this year, which tells us you have dollars on hand available for making capital improvements.

ONE COMMENT ABOUT THIS SLIDE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE FOR THE BOARD IS IT ILLUSTRATES THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB WITH KEEPING OUR WATER RATES UP WITH, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT RAISING THEM AT THE RATE THAT WE'RE GETTING THEM INCREASED FROM GLWA, WE'RE STILL ADDING MONEY TO THE FUND BALANCE EVERY YEAR, SO WE'RE You know, that's something that was a little bit of a not sure of, but it's proven out. The numbers have proven out over the last four or five years that we've, the water rates are being handled properly.

Okay, next slide. So moving into discussion on some of the longer-term liabilities. The township has a defined benefit pension plan, and this is measured annually. This plan is actually measured a year behind, so these numbers technically are as of 12-31-2024. However, they are reported in your 2025 financial statements, just to remind everyone of how that works. So at the end of 2025's reporting, the net pension liability was about 14 and a half million. That was actually down slightly, about 560,000 or so from the previous year. So good to see that that liability did decrease some. So for the current year, you sat at about 68% funded. versus 66% in the prior year. And then on the next slide is the other long-term obligation. This is what we call OPEB. This is a part related to healthcare provided to retirees. This is measured in real time with your audited statement date. So these numbers are as of 2025. You'll see that the net OPEB liability, which is the black line there, decreased for the year. It's down about $1.7 million for a total balance of $5.3 million. That is a pretty sharp decrease in the liability, and there's a couple of reasons for that. One, market conditions were good, so your investments were up. That helps close the gap. But then as part of the actuarial process, which we're not a part of, but that's a report provided to the township from those experts, there were things called changes in experience differences and changes in assumptions. And both of those pieces serve to decrease the overall liability of the OPEB.

Wasn't it around 2016 or 2017 when the state took a look around and said, noticed that so many communities were underfunded and then required us to put in a, if we were under a certain threshold, we were required to do an action plan. But 62% Did you say it was 62 or 64?

68.

68? Can you guys hear me out there? Yeah. Wow, this is wonderful.

Yeah.

I can just talk and you can listen to me all day. So 68% is considered healthy, right? Correct? Right.

It doesn't require... a corrective action plan.

And then on the OPEB, what they also discovered was that very few communities had any funding set aside to pay off, pay for post-retirement health care and other benefits that were promised. And so most communities, if you look at the table, we fall towards the upper end being only still in our 20s. But we added money to it and continue to add money to it because what we don't want to do is kick it down the road for our kids to have to pay off. We ought to be accruing money, setting aside money to pay for those liabilities. Otherwise, don't promise them.

Can I ask a question? This budget year, we made a decision not to pay the $250,000 into these accounts that we had been paying. Do you anticipate, what do you see happening as a result of us? Because we don't have any longer term plan in place. What is your advice to us? What is your recommendation on that?

Well, without looking at specific data, I can't necessarily give you advice on that at this moment. But obviously, if you are not going to continue adding to the funding and the liability grows, the gross liability grows, then your net number is going to go back up. There's a piece in the calculation for the total OPEB liability and the total pension Liability, that's the interest. There's an interest component that essentially gets charged and added to the liability every year. So that can be quite steep. So it's really, I mean, it's a decision obviously you as a board has to make how much you want to fund into that. And your actuaries really are the ones that can help you do projections for what that would look like into the future.

Do you know offhand where the bubble sits? Where is it gonna be? At what point are we going to be on the backside of that hill? Is it 2035?

I do not know that. I'm not sure if that would be in your actuary report, but if it's not, it might be a calculation they could provide.

Yeah. Tell me this, some type of imputed interest rate that the fund pays or that the fund earns? the OPEB, the calculation, you have a discount rate that you apply, is that what you're talking about?

Yes, yes. So on the investment side, so in this particular slide, the teal portion is going to be your actual investment results. That will increase by true investment income, but then there's a discount rate that the actuaries use when calculating the total OPEB, which are the peach bars.

Okay, so it's kind of a net present value.

Yeah.

All right, I understand.

The liability will continue to increase, and then there'll be a bubble as people that are eligible for post-retirement or have defined benefit plans are being paid off. And as they're aging out, then those liabilities will decrease. And I think it was 2035 when we thought, isn't that right, Mark? Do you remember?

I'm sorry.

When does the OPEB bubble peak? 2035? Yes, 2035.

Yeah, and then after that, it'll start going back down.

Yeah.

It would be, personally, in my best interest for the OPEB, I think we should put money aside for the future date. Otherwise, we're just going to spend it. So I would put some money aside. I think we should.

So it'll peak at 2035, and then as people pass away, then we'll retire that liability.

I would say based on the adjustment they made this year, because if you look at the peach bars, actually the total liability did decrease this year, and part of that is because your plan experience is better than what they were anticipating, meaning that less people are using it.

Less people are using healthcare services and so on. Yeah, they're healthier. They're healthier.

I don't know if they're healthier. I can't have an opinion about that. I'm not saying that. All right, we'll move on to internal controls and compliance, which is the next slide. This year, I'm happy to report that we do not have any material weaknesses, significant deficiencies, or written management comments as a part of the audit process. We do meet with various people throughout the township, though, and we generally have other recommendations that we talk about, best practices that we see other places that perhaps you could put into place, but nothing that was significant enough that needs to be in writing. So excellent job by your team here, by the finance director, really, It's a one person show.

Good job, Carol.

I was going to say finance director and team, but I'm not sure how much team is left at the moment. Good job, Carol.

This is extremely boring. No, it really is a great audit. I appreciate you both.

Okay, and then our last slide here within your bound report is a shorter letter kind of tucked in the back. It's our communication to the board essentially. things that the audit standards require us to inform you about. So I did list a few items here that are important. Every year, it seems like there's a GASB statement that has to be adopted by the finance department. There was one this year, but it was not impactful at all to your financial statements. There is some estimation within your financial statements. So those OPEB and net pension liabilities, the way that your capital assets are depreciated. Those are all significant numbers that have estimation in them. So we'd just like to make sure you're aware of those. And then as part of the audit planning process, we have to assess risk for your township. And so we have two significant risks that we specifically develop procedures for. One related to management override of internal controls. and then the other related to how revenue gets recognized. So nothing that anyone has done wrong. It's just part of what we have to do. And now we have to communicate to you that we consider those to be risks. Those are the two risks that the audit standards really say you definitely have to look at. If your list was much longer, that might be indicative of other potential issues, but we don't have any others. So that's good news for you. There is one uncorrected misstatement noted within that letter related to lease accounting. The township has taken the approach that it's not worth the administrative burden of fully implementing GASB 87. And so you continue to pass on some of those adjustments. That's certainly a choice you can make. We just have to point it out to you. And then there are some upcoming GASB statements that for 2026 are gonna have some changes to your MDNA and then to your proprietary statements like your water and sewer fund. But mostly the changes are reporting in nature and will come at the end of the year. So not a lot of work that has to be done in the meantime, which your finance director should be thrilled about.

So let's- Does that, Gatsby, which one was it, 34? that requires you to book, to track leases, apply to SaaS, software as a service as well, cloud services?

So 87 relates to leases and 96 relates to technology agreements.

Oh, okay. So, but do they require you to, because BSNA is going to move over to the cloud at the end of this year. And so will that require us to track or report out differently on that particular?

Agreement.

Asset or the agreement? Yes, software as a service agreement.

So the agreements I've seen so far with BSNA and the cloud are limited to 12 months. And if agreements are 12 months or less, then they're scoped out of GASB 96. So it will depend on what your specific agreement language says.

Okay.

But what we have seen so far is that they're scoped out.

So will the new GASB that apply to 2026, will they make it difficult to compare year over year or because there's an adjustment that is not a direct comparison to the previous year because GASB was not in effect?

Right. So for the MDNA, I would say no. It actually should improve transparency in that manner. The supplementary information that's going to change, that shouldn't really affect comparability. It's actually adding some information for you. The piece that will be a little harder to compare, will be your proprietary fund statement, like your water and sewer fund, because the categories, so the rows that show up on that statement are going to be labeled slightly differently and be in a different order. So that would be a little harder to pull up one year to the next and compare. You can definitely still do it, but it won't be as easy.

I have a question.

Yes.

So a couple years back, we enacted the Veterans Commission by ordinance, and we never really established a budget for the Veterans Commission with the understanding that we would be doing some events and such. We followed some of the recommendations with the supervisor and established a fund through a local impact alliance here in, I think they run out of Canton, used to be the Plymouth Canton Foundation, something like that. So we began to raise money so that we could do what we wanted to do in the township to honor our veterans and hometown heroes. Turns out that it was very limited on what we could do. Essentially, you could only take the funds that we raised and then re-contribute them to another 501c3, which was very limiting because we wanted to put on some events and spend our money. I asked the fund manager what she recommended. She recommended that they grant the township funds and then they could reimburse us for that. Being as respectful as I could, the comments or the response was always the auditors don't like that though. So I was just wondering if you could comment on that because it has essentially shut us down from even being able to to do anything with the commission at this point. Could you just kind of comment on that and elaborate what that means?

So I might need more information.

I think what she was referring to is the concern of having non-employees spending money, running it through the Plymouth Township accounts.

Yeah, we were just gonna use our you know, set up an account that they could run the money through the township, and that way, you know, we can make deposits, we can write checks, and do all the things that they need to do.

We would be collecting their money, and then in turn cutting their checks. No, John would collect the money. It would be included in our revenues and stuff, and the comment was that they really needed to become a 5013C, and... get their own bank accounts and handle it that way as opposed to the township picking in their money and it becomes commingled with township money.

Yeah, so I think some of the concern stems from how those dollars would go back out and that if you're running them through the township, then you have to make sure that those are still all legally qualifying expenses. And without knowing exactly what that money is going to be spent on, you could end up in situations where maybe you're wanting to pay for something that normally the township couldn't actually pay for. And then you end up having essentially illegal expenditures.

Like food is an example. It's not a legal expenditure for the township is to buy food for people.

Yeah, so that's why, if there's really a separate organization, then it should be set up separately in managing its own money.

So then the commission is, I mean, it's null and void in that sense, because why would a township entity become a nonprofit? That doesn't sound right.

My guess of what it kind of boils down to, it's a little bit of an awkward,

You could become a nonprofit yourself, like a PTA or something like that. PTA is a special class. It's a supporting organization, but you couldn't do that.

So we can take this offline.

Yeah, so I just, while you were here, I just was curious what the auditors don't like that was. I thought I'd just ask you point blank. I appreciate it.

People use the A word too much. They say the auditors won't like it if they don't want to do something.

They blame you for everything.

Yeah, they blame me for everything.

It's always our fault.

Yeah, it is always your fault. And you are a monster, according to some people. Yeah, yeah.

I understand. That was helpful. It didn't help the situation, but it was helpful to understand and get some clarification, so thank you. You're welcome.

All right, any questions or comments from the board on the audit or ideas that we need?

Carol, are you gonna look into the details?

Pardon me?

Are you gonna look into the details?

Of what?

The audit?

Yeah, I've been through it.

She reads them at night. I'm sorry? She reads them at night before she goes to bed.

Can you actually, it was better to look over here. You can look at the audit. What page are you on? You wanted me to bring up the... I don't know the best one to look at.

Hang on, Mark. I'll pull it up on the screen.

Okay.

Um...

Okay, this would be 4-1. 4-1.

And we got to coincide that with the total packet page. Yep. It's about 190 191.

That's the budgetary comparison schedule.

Page 191 of 292. Yep, page 191. I think you've gone too far. Well, no, you haven't gone far enough. This one?

That looks like it.

Yes, exactly right. Can you go up a little bit higher? Keep going up. Keep going. Keep going. For public safety, a little bit higher. Right there. That's perfect. Public safety. So at the beginning of the year, I made a bet, and gladly I lost, but I bet at the beginning of the year, last year, I was going to lose a million dollars. And I'm happy to say we did not lose a million dollars, so I'm very happy. We gained a million. We gained a million dollars. Well, not a million, but fairly close. But very specifically, if you look at the public safeties, God, it's actually tough to see this thing. The top line? Yeah, you save almost $2.2 million for public safeties. So you didn't spend $2.2 million for public safeties. Is that... I don't think... I'm trying to understand the logic there. Right there. The logic was this number. Yeah, if you go all the way to the right.

15.9. Final 17.2. Actual 16.

So that's... Right there. Exactly right there. Right there. A million dollars.

No, that... You saved... At the beginning of the year, you were supposed to spend the other 17. No, that's...

BUDGET AMOUNTS, ORIGINAL FINAL OF 17.3. RIGHT.

AND THE ACTUAL WAS 16.1. RIGHT. SO YOU SAVED $1.2 MILLION. SO YOU DIDN'T SPEND FOR PUBLIC SAFETY $1.2 MILLION.

WELL, THERE WAS SOME ROLLOVER, RIGHT?

YES. THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION I HAD WAS WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED?

There was some rollover. The utility vehicle for the fire department didn't come in until 2026. So that budget rolled into 2026. We didn't spend it last year. There was some upfit on vehicles in the police department. That's rolled forward. So any of our carry forwards, that would have been a lot of the savings from last year that we've moved into the next year.

So I guess my big concern, and I won't know, but the following year, if we predict we're gonna lose a million dollars, maybe we may lose $2 million next year. No, we're not going to do that.

Well, this is where I got hung up a little bit too, because what this is saying is that we spent 1.1 million less than we budgeted last year. And that was just explained where the biggest costs were. But this is not the balance sheet. And on the balance sheet, if this were a profit-loss, did we profit, did we lose, or did we break even?

Can you really compare this to profit and loss?

No, that's a bad comparison because public sector and private sector are two very different things.

I'm not smart enough to know how to explain it. other than we had good budget management and good performance.

I'm trying to understand though, because the way I read some of this is that we, when you look at the aggregate, add up all the money from all the sources and all the spending from all the sources, including accruals and commitments and Did we, we added to the fund balance, meaning that we took in, when we took all this in, we didn't spend it all. We spent a little bit less. Is that what we're saying here? Correct. Oh, that's good. I was under a different impression because I was looking at this from the standpoint of the budget documents and not from the balance sheet.

We're not going broke yet.

Good, we'll work harder.

Actually, that's the only question that I have. This is my only concern. I mean, I think this was a great audit, extremely well done. I appreciate it.

Okay, are we ready for the motion?

Well, wait a minute. It's a chance for people in the audience, if they have a question, you can ask it now. Any questions? Do the numbers make you roll back in your head, your eyes roll back in your head? We have one. Go for it, you gotta get up there. She's sporting, she's gonna talk numbers.

Mary Tavarozzi, quick question. Just a short time ago, the council passed a resolution changing eligibility requirements for post-retirement medical coverage, I believe, if that's correct.

Attestation? No, we didn't make any changes yet. You didn't make any changes yet? It wasn't in 2025.

No, I know, but this was a recent change. You just made a change now going forward.

Are you talking about attestation for those people who have insurance, who have retired, who have insurance at a new company?

Right. I believe that the resolution was that if you leave here and you're eligible... at the time you leave for post-retirement medical coverage, but you subsequently obtain employment somewhere else under which you have eligibility for medical, dental coverage there, you have to take that. You cannot keep the coverage from here.

And then you come back to the township when you get fired, retire, or quit.

There is a period, could be temporary or permanent, where you no longer automatically qualify for the post-employment. medical coverage here should you get medical coverage eligibility at another place, which could very well happen. Look at our recently retired assistant police chief who immediately went to a new full-time job. So my question then for the auditor is what kind of an impact would we expect to see on that OPEB going forward with this change that they've put into place?

Well, I am not an actuary, so I can't really give you an answer to that. That's not my specialty. I'm assuming if that is happening, then your cost will go down, but I'm not entirely sure how that works in the actuarial projection.

Yeah, they would definitely go down. That's an actuarial projection. assurance, but would then you be looking, if you do the audit next year, would you be looking for a statement from the actuaries, which they provide to you? Apparently you don't audit their statements, but you get an actuarial statement and you would be looking to see that that's been factored in going forward.

Correct. We are provided the actuaries report that the township has performed. Okay. Okay.

Great. It's always a two-year lag.

Thank you.

Anyone else? All right. We have a motion to... Yeah, Mr.

Supervisor.

I'll go ahead.

I move that the Plymouth Township Board of Trustees hereby adopt resolution number 2026-06-09-36, approving the audit of 2025 fiscal year financial statements, reports, and letters of required communication, and follow-up recommendations to be filed with the state of Michigan by Yo and Yo and to acknowledge the receipt and filing of previously stated, of the previously stated.

Second. Oh, I'm confused. Is that F1? Is that the same thing that's on F1?

Yeah.

All right. Good. All right. So do we have a second? All right. We're ready? Who seconded it?

Mark. Mr. Clinton. All right, ready for the roll call?

Yes.

Jen Buckley. Yes. Mark Clinton. Yes. Chuck Kermie.

Yes.

Bob Dershowitz. Yes. Sandy Groth. Yes. John Stewart.

Yes.

Tim Gatica. Yes. All right. Motion passes. Motion passes, all right.

I wanna say thank you to Carl for stepping up this year and the work that you did was fantastic. And also Jim, my deputy covered the, did a great job helping out with the stuff in my office because he understood it better than me. His accounting background is much deeper than mine. And so thanks.

Yes. All right. Number two. Item two is amendment number seven to the Great Lakes Water Service Agreement with Patrick Felrath, Director of Public Services, and Bob Dorshevitz, the Treasurer, will speak on this agreement. I will? Well, you're the co-person.

I think it's a good agreement. Any questions? So good evening. So every four years we reopen our wholesale water service agreement with Great Lakes Water Authority, GLWA, and the purpose of reopening it every four years for the terms of the contract is just to review the terms and conditions, make sure they're up to date, and make sure the contract flow values are consistent, representative of the current state of the township in terms of water usage. So we did this exercise in 2022. That's when we passed the last amendment, number six, and we're doing it again here in 2026 for number seven, and we'll do it again in 2030. So what this entails is that myself and the treasurer Doroshevitz met with Great Lakes Water Authority in April and we reviewed our current water usage data, recent data for the past 10 years, made sure our contracted flow values, namely the peak hour and the max day limits are still valid. And again, just to make sure all the exhibits are still accurate in terms of types of meters, where they're located, service limits, et cetera. So we did that. Now it's important to note that this wholesale service agreement is pretty standard. relative to all the 88 communities under GLWA. All the communities more or less have the same agreement. What differs is the contracted flow limits. What's their peak day, max day peak hour. And it's important to remember that this wholesale agreement, it doesn't include rates. It doesn't include charges. I'm not here tonight to say this is our current rate and it's gonna go up or go down. The purpose of this service agreement is just to set the terms and conditions of GLEWA is going to provide us water and we're going to purchase it. And we're going to purchase it at rates that Great Lakes Water Authority, I mentioned GLEWA, that's an acronym. will establish, and as you know, they establish rates every year. If you recall, they approved rates back in March, and they raised all the communities around 6%. We were slightly below that. They raised our rates like 5.7 or something, wholesale water rates. So the rates are separate. They're done on an annual basis. They're calculated under a rate methodology that's not specified in this contract. It's just referenced. So this has no impact on current or immediate future rates per se. But what these contracted flow limits, they do have an impact when it comes to calculating rates. The higher the flow limits, the larger slice of the pie is going to be allocated to you when they do come up with a revenue requirement. So since 2009, when this contract was first signed, our flow limits have been consistent. They've been the same. Our max day and our peak hour flow limits have always been 10 million gallons per day. And they've been pretty representative. We kept our usages below that value. This time around, based on the last 10 years worth of water usage data, We now have an opportunity to lower the max day. The max day is current 10. million gallons per day we can lower it to 9.03 and that bodes well for us that's gonna probably help us the next time they do calculate rates because like I said the higher the limits the higher your rates so when they increase rates next time which they always do our rate won't be as high assuming everything else is consistent as in years past So that's really the only significant change under this amendment is to lower our maximum day flow limit from 10 to 9.03 million gallons per day. And again, that's based on usage data. That's not a number we just... We just made up, that's based on historical data that Great Lakes Water Authority also reviewed and agreed that that was a reasonable value with low risk of exceeding per their methodology. They have some type of statistical frequency analysis that they do, too, that factors in risk, risk of exceedance. And they agreed to that value. So that's the significant change. All else is pretty much standard. We made some changes to terminology. Meter manufacturers have changed. Types of meters have changed. For planning purposes, it's not really a contracted value. The annual township usage was lowered because of the trends in our water usage have decreased in the past 10 years. But that has no, that's not even an enforceable. That's just for planning purposes. That's included in one of the exhibits for GLWA's benefit for planning. So that's what you have before you. The board has just requested to approve amendment number seven to the water services agreement and go forward and then I pass it on to Great Lakes Water Authority and they issue the amendment, the new revised contract.

Do you have a confidence interval level that we won't exceed that nine?

Yes, yeah, again, this was studied and it was consistent with their methodology and it was also consistent with other communities as to how they were lowering it and being negotiated. I'm pretty confident for the max day. Because max day, you're gonna have to get 9.03 million gallons per day. You're gonna have to average around nine million gallons per hour, you know, or have an extreme five hours, you know, way over our limit, peak hour limit to bring it to a nine for the entire day. So I'm pretty, I would say I'm confident that we would be below that value.

The max day is almost always in the month of June.

The max day and the peak hour are always between June and September 1. And the peak hour typically, the max day and the peak hour typically happen in the same month. And it's typically June or July, at least in recent past. Peak hour is usually in the early morning. And max stay for the township usually takes place when that peak hour occurs. Great Lakes Water Authority's max stay could be off a few days from the townships, but sometimes it lands on the township's max stay also. So the worst case scenario is when, if we were to exceed a max day or a peak hour, and it's also Great Lake Water Authority's system-wide max day peak hour, that's when a community really gets penalized. But again, low risk, confident with our values and our proposed value.

All right, any questions on the board? Sandy, did you have a question?

I was just gonna make a motion.

Any questions in the audience? All right, go ahead.

Mr. Supervisor, I move to approve resolution 2026-06-09-37, approving amendment number seven to the water service contract between the Great Lakes Water Authority and the Charter Township of Plymouth and authorize the supervisor and clerk to sign the amendment.

SECOND. SECOND.

OKAY. OKAY. READY FOR A ROLL CALL READY FOR A ROLL CALL READY FOR A ROLL CALL BOAT. BOAT. BOAT. JEN BUCKLEY? JEN BUCKLEY? JEN BUCKLEY? YES. YES. YES. MARK CLINTON? MARK CLINTON? MARK CLINTON?

YES.

YES. YES. CHUCK KERMEY? CHUCK KERMEY?

CHUCK KERMEY? YES. YES. CHUCK KERMEY? YES. ROB DERSHOVITZ? ROB DERSHOVITZ? ROB DERSHOVITZ? YES. YES. SANDY GROVE? SANDY GROVE? SANDY GROVE? YES. YES. JOHN STEWART? JOHN STEWART? JOHN STEWART?

YES.

YES.

JOHN STEWART? YES. JIM GATEKA? JIM GATEKA? JIM GATEKA? YES. YES. MOTION

Next item is three. It's police department purchase of firearms and some accessories. Sergeant Mike Hinkle will give us a pitch.

It's 20 years to get this sound system right.

Sir, Mr. Supervisor, Board, thank you for having me. So I'm here to request permission to purchase five Glock Model 45 9mm pistols and five Benelli M4 12-gauge shotguns. This is a budgeted item utilizing state forfeiture funds. The five Glock pistols are essentially to build up our inventory. Currently, we are down to one spare, which is going to be distributed next month when we send a new employee to the police academy, so leaving us with zero spares. This is important, obviously, for several reasons. If we need to send something in for maintenance, get them fixed, and also, God forbid, We have officer-involved shootings or something like that. Our weapons are then taken for evidence, and we won't have a spare to then reissue to that officer. As far as the shotguns go, and the accessories for those pistols, all of our pistols are equipped with slide-mounted optics as well as flashlights. As far as the shotguns go, we currently have an inventory 16 shotguns, 15 Remington 870s and one Mossberg pump action shotgun. Those shotguns are extremely old. I believe Lieutenant Krebs said we had those when he first started here almost 24 years ago. Our newest batch is, I believe we purchased five or six in 2013. And unfortunately, they've reached their service life. We've had a lot of issues with them. The most recent one being last week at our qualification day, we had to completely take one out of service due to it having a malfunctioning loading gate. So currently, all of our patrol officers, or at least most, are issued patrol rifles. as our long gun of choice. With that being said, shotguns still have a purpose to keep an inventory. However, I'm trying to reevaluate our inventory and our methodology behind training. So we're going to decrease the number of shotguns we keep in our armory down to seven. So we're going to maintain our two best Remingtons and then hopefully purchase these five Benellis. Like I said, our primary long gun is going to be that rifle. However, shotguns do have a purpose given certain circumstances.

Okay. Were all these bids for the same, basically the same product? Correct, yes.

They had different... A couple of them had different accessories, but the weapons themselves are the same. Okay. Correct.

Okay, tell me why we should buy an Italian-made weapon versus an American-made one.

Yeah, so I am a firm believer in obviously buying American whenever we can. Made in America is obviously super important. However, it is my job. I am the supervisor of the firearms training unit. I'm in charge of making sure all our officers are provided the best equipment they can be provided with. Unfortunately, American firearms manufacturers have really gone downhill when it comes to shotguns. Remington has been essentially non-existent. They've gone bankrupt twice since 2018. And it really exists in name only. It's been sold, bought and sold by various hedge funds and just the name. Their products are quite inferior these days. In fact, the six that we bought in 2013 are in worse conditions than the ones we bought 25 plus years ago. Really the only other two manufacturers that are of note are Mossberg and Browning. Browning does not make shotguns for law enforcement, military style purposes. They're mostly field and sport, hunting shotguns, trap shooting, things like that. And Mossberg, unfortunately their quality is not what I would feel comfortable providing my officers in a life and death situation. Their auto-loading shotguns are okay. However, their operating system are those, it's a gas-operated system, which requires a lot of maintenance and parts wear rather quickly in those types of systems. So these Benelli shotguns, yes, they are made in Italy. They are distributed and marketed through Benelli USA out of Maryland, and they are extremely simple. Unlike much you spoke of Italian engineering, Unlike a Ferrari where there's about 12 different places you need to drain the oil from, this is a very simple inertia-driven operating system that just uses the recoil of the shell to operate it. So there's no gas seals, no O-rings, just a bolt and a spring. So their longevity is phenomenal. They are... Pretty much the gold standard in military and law enforcement issued semi-auto shotguns. And their service life is probably going to far exceed anything we can purchase that is made here. So it's a semi-automatic, not a pump action. Correct. Correct. They're simpler to use. And, again, gives us that officer that edge to use.

So how many shells do they have in them? He asked how many shells in the magazine.

It's going to be the same. They hold six rounds, six shells.

Correct. Any more questions? Any questions out there? Yep. Pardon me? I have not heard of those. What brand is it? All right, we'll take note of that. All right, any, are we ready for a motion?

Yeah, Mr. Supervisor, I move. 06-09-38, authorizing the plummet. Five shotguns.

Second.

Second. Okay, ready for the roll call vote. Jen Buckley. Yes. Mark Clinton.

Yes.

Chuck Kermey. Yes. Bob Dorfshevitz. Yes. Sandy Groth. Yes. John Stewart.

Yes.

Tim Gatica. Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you.

Item four, another police department item. It's the three-year service agreement for Motorola radios in our police department. These radios already exist, and this is more of a maintenance item.

So these are leases versus buying?

So the service agreement that we're looking to enter into is a three-year service agreement that is just for the maintenance of the software and the hardware. These are the three dispatch radios that we already have in place right now. So the service agreement will be for 2026, 2027, and 2028. The dollar amounts are specified in the document that I included in the board packet. For 2026, we actually had budgeted $28,000 for this agreement, and it came in under budget at $25,752. The service agreement is necessary to ensure that we have prompt service if one of our radios experiences a malfunction or needs some sort of update. The vendor that we utilize is based in Livonia. It's a family-run operation, and then we've been doing business with them for quite some time. If we don't do the service agreement, we could certainly go cash out of pocket when things come up. However, the level of priority that that vendor will give us is not going to be top priority. Essentially, they will get to us when they can. So certainly having that service agreement is very beneficial.

And these are the radio, the consoles, right? These are not handhelds.

Yeah, that is correct. So it's the dispatch consoles right there, the stationary ones, the three consoles that we have existing right now.

Okay. So the dispatcher sits at that desk with the console in front of them.

Yes, that is correct. So you can imagine that this is extremely important and critical piece of equipment that we have using to relay the information to the officers, the dispatchers, the paramedics.

And when did we buy those? That was like, what, four or five years ago?

Oh, those radios? It's been a bit more than that three or five years. I think it's coming up pretty close. We're probably going to have to have some discussions about replacing that equipment, along with the Viper 911 system as well. So all this equipment that we have, whether it's the dispatch radios, Motorola radios, or the Viper 911, that's expensive equipment.

Lieutenant Krebs, I appreciate how thorough your information is. having a little bit of a background with emergency services, it's very clear to me that this is not a choice type issue. It's a matter of people don't think about what goes into maintaining and ensuring that the equipment is gonna work when you need it to. And this is something that will provide us with a backup in the event that something happens. And I appreciate your investigating it in your report.

Yeah, in the event that we should have some sort of failure, our vendor will be able to come on site 24 hours, seven days a week to dispatch a technician to make those repairs. If something is broken, they have the parts to fix it so they can order a part and then bring it. So we'd be back up and operating fairly quickly.

And Motorola has always taken good care of us.

Yes. If one council goes down, you still got two more, right? Yeah, there's a system of redundancy in there, so yes. It would take a catastrophic event for us to lose the whole center.

It would be a devastating event, yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, Bob, I'll add, we also have redundancies filled out with other municipalities in the area that if we did have an issue in this building, then we would have a backup plan for that as well.

Oh, good.

Yeah, so to highlight what the Chief just said, in the event there's some sort of failure in our dispatch center, we have plans in place to be able to move, move locations.

With a phone call, they can just reroute the circuit to another dispatch center, right?

Exactly.

Yeah. Backup for the backup, that's good.

And some of our neighboring communities have had some issues as well, so they've sent a dispatcher down here to be able to dispatch their police and fire until they had repairs or backup or operational.

So any questions on the board? Any questions from the public? All right, we're ready for a motion.

Mr. Supervisor, I move to approve Resolution 2026, authorizing the Plymouth Township Police Department to purchase a three-year Motorola solution service agreement from account 101-325-801.00 to which the police department will be invoiced on an annual basis and the total cost shall not exceed 80,000.

Second.

Okay, ready for the roll call. John Buckley. Mark Clinton. Yes. Chuck Kermy.

Yes.

Bob Dorshevitz.

Yes.

Sandy Grove. Yes. John Stewart.

Yes.

Kim Dedica. Yes. Motion passes.

Thank you. Item five is a public hearing for requests for the Class C Liquor License for the Western Wayne County Conservation Association. And I, since I'm a member of this club, I will be asking you to allow me to recuse myself from the vote. John, do they have to vote to allow me to recuse because I'm a member, potential conflict of interest?

I think that would be the safest route, certainly. I'm not familiar with the board's protocols in that regard, but certainly a vote would be proper.

Usually, when do we do that? In the beginning or at the later?

Usually we do it before the vote. You could still participate in the discussion if you chose to.

No, no, no, no, no. No, if you're recused, you have to remain silent. So I would recommend if after the public comment, before the vote, that would be the vote to honor the supervisor's request to abstain.

Okay, so Kim will lead this and handle the public hearing, which is more of a formality.

So we need to actually vote, right, to open up for the public hearing?

Yeah, so there would be a vote to open the public hearing. You would obviously allow members of the public to participate. I don't know if you allow individuals to attend online or if there are correspondence that may have been submitted for individuals that would not be able to attend. Certainly we would want to capture all that public comment, be a vote to close a public comment. And then at that point, the board would vote to exclude Supervisor Kerrmey, and then there'd be, the final vote would be to either up or down to approve the liquor license.

So on the public hearing, it seems like I could vote for that, right? Public hearing or should I?

Yeah. Okay. So do we roll call vote to open up the public hearing? Sure. All right. So Jen Buckley? Yes. Mark Clinton?

Yes.

Chuck Kerrmey?

Yes.

Bob Dorshevitz? Yes. Sandy Grove? Yes. John Stewart?

Yes.

Kim Gatica? Yes. Okay.

Do we have a motion? We made the motion.

We didn't make a motion.

We didn't make a motion to open the public hearing.

Yeah, you would want to make a motion with the second. And also, I think it's important. Important to note that I believe a representative of the company is here, so that should be announced as well. Okay.

So I'll make the motion that we open the public hearing for the Class C liquor license for Western Wayne County Conservation Association at 7.55 p.m.

So I guess I'm sorry, but I'm a little confused. We haven't done this for 50 years for the liquor license? Is that...

for them, just for them. We have done them, just not for Western Wayne County.

They've got some sort of a license and they want to change to a Class C. So what, they want to sell to the public or something? Is that what it is?

So is there a second to open up this? Thank you. And then are we good since we already took the vote? Okay, sorry about that. Okay, and then just to announce that we do have Debbie Hanka, I believe, who is here. And she's here and available to answer any questions from the board, as well as from the audience. But essentially what they want to do is they have applied to the township to, from, they have a private club license right now, and they want to change that to obtain a Class C license so that they can serve the public, which has to be approved by the board to do so. It does not require law enforcement approval. And so we'll now open it up for discussion. I don't know, Debbie, if you had any comments you wanted to make or- Tell us what you're doing here.

Well, thank you for your consideration and having me here this evening, but we are looking to obtain a Class C license. We've been in Plymouth Township and operating for 50 plus years. under the private club license, which means we cannot serve the public. In the last few years, our membership has slowly declined and operating costs are rising. We would like to expand our activities to include the public and be able to possibly gain some membership and increase our revenue.

Could you define what you mean by serve the public? Are you talking about members or daily members?

Our current license is a private club license, so we can only serve bonafide members of the club.

So then the public can come in and just pay a day rate and shoot and then? They have to be with a guest in order to shoot.

So they would come in, but they cannot consume alcohol.

I can just stop by there. If you get this, I can just stop by there and have a beer if I want.

No, not as of right now, no.

Right, but if we approve this, then that would change.

Well, we're not going to put a sign at the end of our driveway announcing this. Free beer. You know, yeah. But, you know, it would be nice to bring, you know, a guest and be able to have beer open, different activities where the public's here. Especially these last few days after you shoot a round or two of Trapper Skeet, you definitely want a cold beer when you're done.

Can a member bring a guest now?

A member can bring a guest, but technically under the licensing.

Oh, you can't serve a guest?

Correct.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, under the liquor control license, you cannot. you have a private club license you cannot serve anybody that's not a club member.

But like the VFW can serve me when I go there for a fish fry because they must have a Class C license.

So what are your what are your members do when they come in to get a beverage with their firearm? Are they required to put it back in their car?

Yes, there's no shooting and firearms mixing. That's a good idea. You would put all your equipment away, lock it up, put it in the car, then you come up to the bar, if you so choose to. We've been doing this with our members for 60 years, and we've never had any incidences. We plan to keep it that way.

Would it be possible to hear from Chief Nytel about mixing alcohol and Do you have any opinions on that? I mean, it's kind of obvious.

What do you think he's going to say? It's a good idea?

Well, I was actually going to say the same thing. It just seems kind of weird that people are going to go drink and then shoot guns. It just seems strange to me. Well, you don't drink first and then shoot.

I mean, we've had the private license all these years, and there's never been any instances where, you know, somebody's been drinking and shooting, and no instances with guns where people have been hurt. So we, you know, it's always safety first. But there is a bar there. It's no multi-lakes. They're another conservation club. They're out in, I believe, on Union Lake Road, Commerce. They do the same. I mean, I know for my... Oh, go ahead, Bob.

Well, the rule is shoot, then drink, not the other way around.

Correct. And I'll just add that being the chief here for four years, we have not had, that I'm aware of, any incidents there. I've been invited, myself and the fire chief have been to... several events, so they were very well run and no issues.

Now, would you know if they drank first and then went shooting? How would you know that?

Well, all of the bartenders are trained and have taken the tips course. If you were to smell alcohol, whether it's leftover from last night or fresh, we would not allow them to go out on the range. And we definitely, if they've had something to drink, don't allow them to go out on a range.

I know. My husband's a police officer. And when he's off duty, he does conceal carry. But if he knows he's even having one beverage, he does not bring his weapon. So, you know.

So we have to have people come to the podium.

Yes, yes, yes. I mean, certainly members of the board.

John has a question.

No, I would like, I am supporting this because of my experience. I have attended wild game dinners there years ago. I didn't wear my blue jean shirt with WWCCA on it because I had to testify before the State Board of Education today, and so I wore my kid tie, but I had my blue jean shirt. Scouts have been out there.

We have a lot of scouts out there.

And I know of two judges and myself who have shot clay pigeons out there. I think this is a little hidden gem.

Well, we'd like to say that, but we really want to get out into the community more and expand. You were talking about scouts. We have five to 15 troops that come out, girls, boys, all ages, that come out and use our facilities, camp. We don't charge them for that.

Nobody said that.

They take the conservation program. They earn their badges that way.

So we do a lot for the community. There's a new little newspaper that Robert Cohen publishes about the fire department, and he would be glad to write about it. So I think this is a gem. Thank you. I mean, you have to go out there. I mean, but I... And I hope you... reinstate some of the wild game dinners.

Well, we have to have that liquor license to do so.

Yeah, in February, you know, type of thing. It's a fun thing.

Yeah.

Any other questions from the board members? And I also meant to just disclose at the start of this hearing, I apologize. So I don't have a conflict of interest, but I just wanted to make the public aware that our daughters actually go to the Conservation Club for archery lessons, classes. But we're not members, but they do offer different classes for archery. So our daughters have been doing that.

We do archery for the children, hunter safety courses. We run four of those a year. So each one brings about 75 pendants.

There's a woman back there who has come up.

There's a member of the audience here that would like to come up. We got to come up to that and state your name and sign. Please come up to the rostrum. No, you're good.

Thank you. My name is Margaret Cahotic and I used to own an archery business and I do not live in Plymouth Township, I'm in Detroit. I'm in Detroit. Obviously bars have always like a cutoff limit, a time where they say last call or whatever. Could they possibly institute something like that at their location or whatever to say this is when you guys do a cutoff time?

They probably already do.

Yeah, our hours, we're only open until 6 p.m. And during the summer, we do have some extended hours. We close at 7.45. So it's not like we're out there till two in the morning drinking. Friday nights, we are open till about 10, 10.30 right now. So it's not a typical bar hours.

Okay, ready for a motion?

Any other questions or comments?

We got to vote on.

We have to have a closed session. Yeah.

Then you want to vote to close the.

The vote to close. So do we have a motion to close the hearing?

Motion to close the public hearing.

Is there a second? Second. Okay. Do a roll call vote. Jen Buckley.

Yes.

Mark Clinton.

Yes.

Chuck Carmi.

Yes.

Bob Dorshevitz. Yes. Sandy growth. Yes. John Stewart. Yes. Kim Gatica. Yes. And then the next item is we need a motion to approve resolution 2-0-1.

No, we need a motion to approve his... Oh, recuse, that's right. To exempt the supervisor from having the vote. Yes. Yeah. Sorry. Is there a motion to recuse?

I move to allow Supervisor Kermy to abstain from this vote.

Second.

Okay, let's do a roll call vote. Jen Buckley?

Yes.

Mark Clinton? Yes. Chuck Cremey? No. Bob Dorshevitz? Yeah. Sandy Groth? Yes. John Stewart? Yes. Kim Gadica? Yes.

And then next. Before we go to the motion, I would just like to note that I believe it's my understanding that our approval does not guarantee a Class C license, but it lets the Liquor Control Commission know that we support it and we have no reason not to allow it.

Is that correct? That's correct. It's part of the application process with the state of Michigan for the Liquor Control Commission that for this type of license, because it's actually owned by the township, that we have to get the board approval for them to move on to the next step. So it doesn't guarantee the license. It still has to go through the Liquor Control Commission.

Motion to approve. Go ahead.

Are you ready? Motion to approve resolution number 2026-06-09-40, recommending that the WWCCA's application for a Class C liquor license be approved by the Michigan Liquor Control Commission.

Is there a second? Sandy Gross, okay. Ready for a roll call vote to approve the motion? Jen Buckley?

Yes.

Mark Clinton?

Yes.

Chuck Hermey of Saints. Bob Dorshevitz. Yes. Sandy Groth. Yes. John Stewart.

Yes.

Kim Gadeka. Yes.

Motion passes. So item seven is the Detroit Institute of Arts Partners in Public Art Program, where our Historic District Commission is going to talk about this program of placing a mural on a township building in Lake Point Soccer Park.

Hi, my name is Colleen Azzini. Behind me is Wendy Harless. We are part of the Plymouth Historic District Commission here in Plymouth Township and at our recent Commission meeting in April, we had agreed upon pursuing a public art mural for the township. And we were going to go through the Detroit Institute of Arts Public Partners in Public Art Mural Program. This program is completely funded by the millage that Wayne, Macomb, and Oakland County residents pay into to the DIA. And so it is a program that has no cost whatsoever to the township in terms of hiring an artist, gathering materials, and actually creating the art itself. Through some research that myself, Wendy, and our other commissioners did, we thought that the Lake Point Soccer Pavilion, which is covered underneath of a little bit of a cover, would be the best place for it. It is an exterior area, which is one of the requirements of the mural, and it is an area where a lot of people do go there to see it, and it's something that would be a benefit to the community and to the residents of themselves. The other One of the processes of it is the maintenance would have to be carried out by the township for 10 years. And that is something that the HDC would be volunteering their time to help with that. And it's mainly just if there's any like graffiti or kind of obstruction to the mural itself, the artwork, we would just have to come out there and just clean and stuff like that. But from... historical murals that have happened already, there hasn't been any type of situation where it's been completely damaged in other communities. And so if you look at the website, if you can go down a little bit, you can see some of recent communities around Wayne, Macomb, and Oakland County that have recently done these. No, no, no, sorry. You don't have to go there. You can go to the first tab, yeah, and then just scroll down. And then it should.

What am I looking for?

There we go. So these are some of them that have been done recently. There are current cities already in the process for 2026. It is a rolling application. So once we hopefully get the approval by the board tonight, we can apply for the Township of Plymouth to kind of go into that rolling approval process for us to get this type of mural for the community.

Very cool. And then will you be talking about what to put up or have you already discussed that? What would be your guys' ideas?

Yeah, so through this program, the steps are once we are kind of in line to begin the process, the DIA will send out a survey to the township residents, and they will answer questions about kind of what they're looking at, ideas, values, opinions, things like that. That will then come back to us as the township, as well as the DIA and the artist, and through the input from the residents, that is how the artist will kind of bring about their concept for what they would like to create.

Is it going to be something historical, like referencing history?

We can definitely put that in because it was something that the district commission had talked about because of Plymouth's 200th birthday coming up next year. And so that's something that we do want to let the artists know once they're picked, that that is something that we can kind of put in there. But they will take in what the community wants as well. and then through that create a concept that then the Board of Trustees would approve.

Any more questions? Remember this is in the Lake Point Soccer Park where there's a picnic area that's covered and there's a brick block wall which is essentially the bathrooms. And it faces due north, which is good from a sunshine. There won't be so much sun on it, plus it's covered. So it should last quite a while.

Yes, exactly.

All right. Any more questions on the board? And then any questions from the audience if we don't have any board members? Questions, comments? All right. Come on up to the... You have a question? If you do, no, no, okay.

It's a fairly large exterior wall of that pavilion.

It's probably 20 feet long.

I would say so, yeah.

20 feet, at least.

Okay, so just so that everyone's aware, to begin the process, we need the Board of Trustees to approve the resolution.

We can't move forward without that. So that's kind of why we're here tonight.

I predict it'll be a couple years before there's paint on the wall.

Possibly, yeah, hopefully.

I move to approve, what are you speaking? I'm sorry. No, go ahead. I move to approve Resolution 2026-06-09-41, approving the application for Plymouth Township's participation in the DIA's Partner in Public Art program at no cost to the township. Second.

Okay, ready for a roll call vote?

Regent Buckley?

Yes. Mark Clinton. Yes. Chuck Cremey. Yes. Bob Dershowitz. Yes. Sandy Grove. Yes. John Stewart. Yes. Kim Gadica. Yes. Motion passes.

One thing to note, I don't know if anyone else noticed, but for the roll call, typically don't we ALTERNATE, ROTATE, THAT WAY YOU DON'T ALWAYS EXPECT THE FIRST PERSON TO VOTE OR THE LAST PERSON, KIND OF KEEPS THINGS INTERESTING. I'LL ROTATE NEXT TIME. YEAH, AND I THINK THERE'S EVEN, YOU CAN GO DOWN, EACH PAGE IT CHANGES. OKAY.

Thank you for that. Yeah, sure.

I should actually randomize them because then that gives, on a controversial vote, it scrambles it up.

Did your office do the agenda packet?

No. Pardon? I was just curious. I wasn't looking at this.

If her office did the agenda packet.

No.

No, okay. No, I should have just looked at this. That's okay.

So next item is public comment. You can say anything you want as long as it's civil, brief, and true.

who determines truth.

Hi, Bill Ikes, Township Hidden Creek Planning Commissioner. Huge shout out to Western Wayne County Conservation Association. I went through a hunter safety course 53 years ago in West Middle School. Our certification was at the club. So I go out there and shoot sporting clays prior to pheasant hunting season. I go out there and sighting in days, which is open to the public November 1st to 14th, which is the perfect opportunity to reacquaint yourself with your firearm. before you're doing it and pitch black, okay, in very cold temperature. The people they have out there are top-notch from people that check, certify, and teach, right, using the club, right. They do host scouts there. I have a son who's an Eagle Scout, and he did earn the shotgun shooting merit badge, which requires two lines hitting a maximum of 25, minimum amount of 50, and on the rifle shooting, it's a 22. you gotta put 522 bullets within a quarter diameter. It's hard to achieve, but they do a great job out there. With respect to the grounds, they take extra meat. So if you're ever in an accident, you got a deer, it's a great place to take it because they will use that meat to serve the public as well. With respect to the bar, before the bartender gets to question you, you have members sitting there on the stools. You have to get by them to have their permission for a guest to be served. It is the most responsible place I've ever been to. And we're all Americans here with the right to bear arms. So for those that shoot, I highly recommend this club. And it is a gem, as Trustee Stewart said. It really is. And on the planning commission, when Tractor Supply came in here, they couldn't answer the question whether they would or would not sell ammo. I highly suggest that they do it because this gun club is less than two miles away, and it's one of the things that sets Plymouth Township apart from other townships. Supervisor Kermey talks about we want Plymouth Township to be safe. This is a safe facility. They are very rigorous about what they do. The memberships cost $400 a year, which is incredible. It's $200 now, so they cut it, which is phenomenal. But they do have open... Time to shoot on, I believe it's Saturdays and Sundays, right? Where you can go there, which is a good thing to do. And they actually have shotguns that you can borrow, okay? Most of them are gas chambered because the kick is less, right, with the shotguns. But I can't say enough about this club. It is absolutely incredible. And I applaud all the trustees for backing a business because it is how a business should be run. And it's always safety first. So with that, I just want to applaud you guys in public and thank you for the job you're doing. THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE?

HI. I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE AUDIT THEY WENT THROUGH ON THE WATER AND SEWER FUND. IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS A PRETTY GOOD SURPLUS. AND I WAS WONDERING IF THERE COULD BE ANY POSSIBILITY OF MAYBE INCREASING THE SUMMER sewer credits for the residents to help them out. And if not, maybe there could be something to be put into where once we reach a certain threshold, maybe we could get a future extra credit for that.

Yeah, I think we can talk about that. What we've got to do over the next year is we need to really develop a long-term capital plan and do a rate study to determine how much do we need and when do we need it. And then if we find that we still have surplus, then that would be a good opportunity to do something like that.

The big elephant is... If we have to replace meters, it will cost between, depending on what kind of meters you use, between probably four and six million or four and seven million.

Yeah, I pretty much gave up on the separate meters for... Too complex. Landscaping. But since the program's already in place to have the credit, summer credit on the sewer side, and we have a surplus, maybe we could just increase the credit.

Some people think that the credit ends up being lower cost than if you actually had a separate meter. especially for people who don't water, so they get a windfall because they don't water their lawn, but they still get the 25% credit. Anyone else? All right, so now we're to board comments. Bob, you go first.

Did I hear you say that the consultant that we hired for the fire study has a report ready?

They have a draft, but it's a draft that the fire chief will be reviewing first. Okay. And he's giving his input, and then there'll be some revisions. And it goes through a process of refinement to make sure it's all accurate. Okay.

And any update on the RFP for our legal services?

I got to do it. Now that we're a little stable, we have a clerk. It's written in the draft, but it needs to be refined and it needs to be put out there for review. 45 days or 60 days. We've got to figure out for people to, uh, take a look at and hopefully submit a proposal. Okay. In the interim, we have, uh, the firm of drop Gia Marco, which John Clark, who's also our labor attorney is from that firm. And he's here as they're here as an interim, uh, as we bridge the gap between the prior long time, uh, attorney and moving forward to a new one sought seeking through the RFP request for proposal.

John Stewart. I want to thank Robert Cohen long time. The township president for a very nice Article entitled Township Receives Life-Saving Equipment Upgrades. This is from Stryker. I look to you, Kim, because it's west side of the state. And I would hope that they would come over for the giving you four months notice for the October open house for the fire department. And I like this little substantive newspaper that isn't really inflammatory and you can't, I commend this to my friend, Wendy Harless, because that gives me a chance to talk about the question of what is our culture? And that is a broadly defined word. We do have a noise ordinance in Plymouth Township and we now have concerts in Kellogg Park every Thursday and Friday night that attract 800 to 1,000 people The only slightly dismaying thing are those with mufflers that want to attract attention as they circle the park. So I'm hoping that we can enjoy the culture of summer and go onward and forward.

How do you get a copy of that paper?

Library. If you give the library $20, they mail you the once a month edition. But it's, here's a left-handed compliment. It's Wendy Harless type substantive articles. I mean, you can't, Kara Gavin and Robert Cohen are just, and Robert Cohen even gets the blessing of Dwayne Zantoff. Done? Done, yeah. Let's go on. Ken Buckley.

Yeah, so I just wanted to commend Wendy on everything that she's doing with the Historic Commission. I don't know if you know, but I teach history at my kids' school. They go to a homeschool co-op, but I've been teaching for five years, and I've taught about 75 students from American history to modern history now. I absolutely love it. And in fact, I'm starting my master's program this this month in history. So I'm just, just so we have a, you know, fist bumps here. But speaking of commissions, I wanted to touch on the Veterans Commission because, you know, there was a little bit of discussion in the last couple of meetings about that. So I think, I think I should be very clear that I started the commission, brought it to Supervisor Kermie because I had the best of intentions, kind of like with the historic commission of doing good for the township. I do think we've reached our limit of capacity. I had mentioned the reason for even bringing it to Supervisor Heisey was how well my family as veterans were treated in Royal Oak where my husband is a police sergeant there. And I noticed all the things that they were able to do And it was very inspired to bring that to Clement Township. Unfortunately, I think at the time, being very new to local government, I wasn't aware of the difference between how governments run locally between city and townships. And so there's a lot more, I don't know, Flexibility. Flexibility. There's just more money in the cities, okay? So Royal Oak has a $5,000 budget for their Veterans Commission. They've done things as elaborate as flybys during Memorial Day Parade. So sorry, guys, there won't be any flybys here in Plymouth Township. I did make a very valiant effort to kind of follow the recommendations from the township. Like I said, I opened up a... myself and another commissioner, opened up a fund through Local Impact Alliance where we could receive the funds, keeping the township out of it. And what we hoped to do with the funds was so limiting that it was kind of like we were back at square one. Even to the point where I tried to, we approved a donation to our local VFW and it was denied. So, you know, my hands are tied in terms of what we were hoping to do for our hometown heroes, honoring them. There's just only, you know, townships can only do what the Michigan, is it compiled law, tells you that you can do. Okay. And so it's very limiting.

There's enumerated powers.

Yeah. And so because of that, I respect the decisions that have been made with Supervisor Kerrmey and the township. And I've done everything that I can. But at this point, like I said in the last meeting, we are just going to kind of take a pause and a rest until we can figure out a different way to get money and spend money and do great things for our community. So if anyone has any recommendations, when I met with Kim, I don't know, a month ago now, she even said that she might do some digging because of her time in the state. So if you have any recommendations, please let me know. It really is near and dear to my heart. And I thank you for listening. Thank you for supporting us thus far. And to the extent that just in the last couple of weeks, we had a ruck march that we sponsored. We were not able to host it this year because we have no way to pay for the fees. So we co-sponsored it, giving a donation to Ethos Human Sports Performance. So if you were seeing us rucking by, which is walking with a backpack on and waving our flags, we were going down Sheldon Road And is it Penniman? Yeah, Penniman to the war memorial there. We took a moment of silence and then went back. And it was a very patriotic event for us. And we're happy to co-sponsor it. But that'll probably be our last stint until something else comes up. So thank you for trusting me with that. I really appreciate it.

Sandy? Sandy?

I didn't do this when we looked at the monthly reports, but Chief Conley, I noted in your report that you shared information about the live fire training at Township Park, and in particular, your participation in the flashover training. And I was wondering if you would tell people here tonight what a flashover is.

Great question. So a flashover is when essentially the fire Temperature of the fire room reaches a point where everything will ignite. That's basically a flashover. It's a bunch of science and stuff involved, but everything basically. You can actually see stuff as you're going into a fire, and you can actually see the chairs and stuff and the furniture off-gassing, and that's all flammable materials coming out, and that can all ignite. So this is an excellent training. Unfortunately, the one day we actually had the Lake Point fire right in the middle of it, And I had, I think, three personnel in the thing, so it kind of created a little bit of a problem at the park for a moment, but we had to get the guys out to get them to the fire. But, yeah, it was excellent training. Everyone really got a lot out of it. Unfortunately, I tried to get out there and see it, and I was actually on my way out there, and I ended up in Lake Point instead. But, yeah, it was a really, really great opportunity, and we're hoping this was all paid through the smoke funds, the fireworks funds paid for it. So we're hoping that in the future, like every two years, to run this through. It was a great, great location for us, like I say, other than that one... circumstance where we had kind of smoked up the park for a second, but it was kind of necessary to get the guys out, so.

So it is incredibly dangerous for firefighters, that flashover condition.

Oh, absolutely, yeah. And this teaches them what signs to look for when you're in there, and you know, it was really hot in there. I actually got out there after the guys were done, and it wiped them out pretty good. It was really good training.

Good. I also wanted to just comment on the fact that I see that you've got the Lucas devices placed in service, the ones that we've previously approved. So I want to commend you on that. It's good to know that those are in place. And then Chief Nittell, I noticed that our officer, I cannot pronounce his name, N-A-M-M-O-U, Officer Raymond Nemu. Okay, that he graduated from SWAT school and I should have said this when Officer Hinkle was here but I also noted that Officer Hinkle was the instructor for the SWAT school and that is incredibly impressive and I just wanted to commend him for his knowledge and his interest and for sharing that knowledge with others and I wanted to commend you for giving us an update on the vicious dog. Child abuse goes on and on for the residents on Beacon Hill Circle. I'm glad to know that the third vicious dog was humanely destroyed with the assistance of the Humane Society, and I appreciate you keeping us informed on that.

Thank you. Kim.

Oh, and I wanted to welcome Kim to the board, and I wanted to let you know that if there's any way I can help you, I'm happy to do that. I think you're gonna work out just great, and I think we'll all enjoy working together, so thank you. Thank you.

So just a couple of things regarding the upcoming election. The week of June 22nd, we'll be mailing out the absentee ballots to the permanent absentee voters. They're on that list. And so for those of you that do vote absentee, watch for your ballots to come in the mail. And then we will be sending out very soon a notice to all of our household, to the voters, about the early voting. Location changing from Risen Christ Church to this location, and it'll actually be in this room, is where early voting will take place around nine days prior to the election. So watch for those notices. And the last thing, we're in the process of updating the clerk's page, the election section in particular, trying to add additional information about how to register, how to obtain an absentee ballot, etc., So check out our website soon because we'll be updating that. Thank you.

By the way, one of the primary reasons we went to .gov for our domain name was for elections to improve confidence and security around our website. More secure.

.gov is a more secure domain.

I know I'm not an attorney, but my voter's card does not tell me what precinct to vote on.

Are you sure? Mine does. Mine does.

Mine did too.

You're in the same precinct as me. It was only you, Dwayne, because we don't want you voting.

Mark Clinton, anything? Just a quick, Bob, what's going on with the BS&A? How's it going?

It's not really kicking up in gear yet because they had such a backlog that they couldn't schedule us for the migration until November.

Okay.

So what's going to happen is we migrated the B&A payments. which is, remember we had point and pay before?

Yeah.

So now we have BS&A payments, which is going to be better when we get on cloud. But they couldn't, they had a, I think we signed the contract in January. They had like a 10-month backlog on scheduling. Oh, okay. So they haven't given us any assignment yet. But when they do, I'll let you know. Got you. Thank you. Because you're going to love to come in for training.

Oh, I'm very excited.

Okay, I have a few updates. The sidewalk replacement program, the repair program, is planned to begin on June 22nd. It should take 30 days based on their contract. I'm hoping they hold to the contract. unlike previous years where they have strung it out for months. The master plan open house, which we heard, is June 24th from 4 to 7 in this room. Ann Arbor Road will be closed for 12 weeks on the right-hand lane westbound for the building of the sidewalk under the CSX Railroad, which is part of the Plymouth Walk and other Ann Arbor Road corridor enhancements, which then will allow people to walk or ride a bike from the township line all the way to Main Street for sure, but the sidewalk will connect at about General Drive. When does that begin? June 15. June 15. The July 4th parade, we've signed up, the police department, the fire department has signed up, and the township board. So if you intend to walk in it with the township elected officials and the city elected officials, make sure you get that information or your selection to Sheila Acker. There's been some discussion, oh, the 200th anniversary, I've established through a local alliance, which is a former Plymouth Community Fund, a fund where people can contribute. I've contributed the initial. We're trying to raise $2,500 to have the Plymouth Historical Museum do a special display and produce a logo for Plymouth Township's 200th anniversary, which is next year, 2027. So I encourage you, everyone to contribute. I will give you the information once we settle on the name of the fund. I'm thinking it might be Plymouth Township Heritage Fund or something like that. The local alliance. They'll handle all the back office. It will be tax deductible. because you're contributing to a 501c3, and they charge a very small administration fee to do the work. There's been some concerns. I'm getting press calls about short-term rentals. We've started tracking them in both the police department through the dispatch is the primary spot, assessing rentals, and building department. So far, it appears we have fewer than 20 out of 8500 single family homes in the township. So we're watching it and see it doesn't mean we know where they all are. But I think we've we have probably an 80% confidence that we got them all right now. And it's currently 15. But I'm estimating we're off. So I'm saying it's fewer than 20. So we're keeping an eye on that. Hopefully we don't have the trouble and don't require the kind of micromanagement of these businesses, like many other communities that have been having trouble. So also I think there's a little bit of activity on social media about our fire department not having enough people. Three of the people are off for non-operational work-related injuries or illnesses. Two, I think, are on duty, what do you call it?

Workers' camp?

Two are on work-related injuries. Okay, I thought none of them were, but all right. Light duty. Light duty, that's it, they're on light duty. So that may explain some of the, not short staffing, but close staffing, that's for sure. All right. Ready for adjournment. Anybody want to make a motion to adjourn?

Second. All those in favor say aye.

Aye. So before everybody goes away, any feedback? Pines in the back, are you able to hear any better with the reverberation attenuated with these things up here, these boards up here? Okay, so you're not getting the feedback interference. And also the... Oh, yeah, I already noticed that, yeah. It's up... So it scares the maintenance...