City Council - Regular Meeting

Oh, there it goes. I was pushing the wrong button. Welcome to the City of Plymouth regular meeting for Thursday, November 13th, 2025 at 6:30 p.m. We start with a roll call, please. Council member Bottomley, here. Council member Dill here. Council member Hornish here. Vice Mayor Nun here. Here. Mayor Cranford here. Thank you. We have a quorum. Let's stand for the pledge of allegiance.

United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Can I get an approval of the city council regular meeting agenda for November 13th? A motion. Make a motion to approve the meeting agenda of November 13, 2025. I'll second the motion. Council member Bottomley. I. Council member Dell. I. Council member Hornish. Hi. Vice Mayor Nun. I.

Mayor Cranford. I. Thank you. Motion passes. We'll now open the floor up to regular meeting public comment. This is for any public comment that is not on the agenda. So, if you have something you want to share with the council, you have 3 minutes to do so. We ask that you just respect the 3minut time slot. After the beeper goes off, if uh you're going over that a little, we'll go ahead and give you a last warning and then ask you to to have a seat. Um we have Patricia. I'm not going to attempt the last name. [laughter] I don't want to mess that up. Uh it's And

thank you. Um so my name is Patricia Anda. I actually live in Ion, but I've been making my way around to different city councils um and of course the board of supervisors next week um to talk on two topics. One of which is the um consolidation for ACUSD. Um as you probably know, they've restarted consolidation movements in 2022 and they've made very little progress to show for it. Um since it's taken such a significant amount of time, three years were supposed to be consolidated right now. I own Elementary in particular. Um we aren't and the horrible conditions that were written about in the ledger by then principal Jenny DeWalt um in 2022 are still there. They're also going to persist for at least another 3 years. They're not going to touch the schools. I can probably guarantee that. There's nothing in their consolidation plan to do that. I'm not sure of the state of Plymouth Elementary, but given the district's track record, I'm not thinking it's that much better. Um, so I'm just going around to all the cities to call on you guys to work in collaboration with the district. Um, Mr. Critfield at last night's board meeting said that he's been in contact with various cities and county representatives. I haven't seen that. I've been to the Ion City Council meetings, of course. Um, I went to Sutter Creek um the beginning of November. I went to Pioneer on Monday. Um, thus far, no one's really made mention that they've heard anything from the superintendent. I'm not sure if you guys have, but um, I'm hoping that there will be collaboration that we can pull our limited resources together and do what's best for our kids. Um, so with that, that is that topic. Um, the next, and in my opinion, more important, um, I am the treasure for Amador's Heart of Gold. We are a newly formed nonprofit organization and our purpose is to provide financial, emotional and educational support to families affected

by childhood cancer residing in Amodore County. Um, in only the past two years, there have been six cases of childhood cancer diagnosed in Amodore County. Compared to national rates, it is three times the national average. I went to the water board or not the water board, the Amador water agency meeting this morning. Um, I intend to go to the regional water quality control board. um and any other boards that are um related to public health um to make a plea for them to investigate and then remediate anything um especially since I it's highly suspected it has to do with our water possibly wastewater treatment and of course our mining industries. Um I am coming to different cities to let everyone know, every family know that we're here for all of Amidor County. Um we are, you know, constantly fundraising. We just started out in August, but um if you are newly diagnosed and you don't know where to turn, um two of our board members are moms who have kids with um childhood cancer and that's why they started it. We have a blood drive at Evelyn Bishop Hall on the December 8th from noon to 5:30. If you want to follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Amidor's Heart of Gold. Thank you.

Thank you. And thank you for your community service. I know. I'm sorry. Finishing a note. Anyone else? Uh, Stephanie, go ahead and come on up. Oh, that's okay. Go ahead. Is Stephanie, is that okay? If John goes Okay. I didn't hear you. I know you didn't hear me. I I know.

I'm sorry. I don't have my hearing aid on. Uh wanted to ask a question here. Uh who authorized did the city council authorize a commercial connection of the casinos to the city water system? There is a hose right now, 3-in water hose is hooked to a city water hydrant that's furnishing water to that casino. Uh, I don't know how you stop that when they open or whether it's temporary or who authorized it, but that's something that's a commercial hookup that should have gone through this council if it has not. Um, and uh they were supposed to have furnished a water plan to the county uh within 60 days of this county signing her agreement. Uh that was nine months ago and uh they still have no water plan and yet they're hooked onto the city water and I think you people need to do something about it. The other question is are you going to get paid? Um the situation with the uh I'd ask that you look at the record of decision in regards to their reimbursement for the property tax and the TOT tax that was was taken with the land when they took land in the trust and I understand that the that is a true thing that they're supposed to be paying that but the department of interior has decided not to enforce those. So it's money that's owed to the city but theart department of interior is not enforcing it and evidently there any enforcing agency over that. So it's money it's close to a million dollars the city of promise has lost in toty tax from those taking of those properties and and it's it's an ongoing thing every year. You know you guys know the hit

you're having on on toot tax. So, it's it's money they owe you and u and they aren't willing to pay it. Um, so it's it's uh I I we need to get some answers and and they we get we they're talking about dealing in good faith. Um I don't believe they're dealing in good faith when they owe these monies and aren't contacting us uh in any way and just not paying them. So, I think it's something you guys need to look at. They want to negotiate in good faith, but uh that's not what's happening in this case. Thank you.

Thank you. Um or or water that he was asking about the water cookup. I can answer that real quick. Jean, there's more information that came to light tonight. I don't know what you're going to Oh, I was just going to talk about the that they have a permit for the water. I'm sure Yeah. Um but it's expired. Yes. Yeah. It's okay, John. We're aware of that. We're um

we're aware that they they do have a permit for the hydrant and it has actually expired. So, we're going to be addressing that. But it's not actually it's the construction company. Yeah, I the construction company had a had a permit that was given to this by the city. The council did not approve it. The permit has expired. It's being addressed that by the truck road. I I think I believe so. Yes, it's it's being addressed tomorrow. It's metered. Yes. Um Okay. Anyone else? public comment. Yeah. Go on.

Stephanie Moreno, um city resident, small business owner. Um first of all, I'd like to thank um the city attorney for taking care of getting the agendas and packets back on the homepage um so quickly after it was brought to your attention. I would like to point out that the mobile website still hasn't been brought up compliant. It's a different thing they have to do. So, I just wanted to point that out. But I really appreciate you um taking care of that as quickly as you did. Um secondly, I'm hoping that um in light of the um struggles that people are having um Plymouth has a high um percentage of lowincome people. um the struggles that are people having with food and hunger and utility bills and everything else. Um I'm hoping that the city, a lot of small cities, a lot of cities across the state are helping their citizens. um the smaller cities that don't have the financial resources such as Plymouth are are trying to leverage um their partnerships with other nonprofits and organizations um to to get those connections going for their citizens. And I'm hoping that we can put some of those resources on the web page um and social media. I think you had one, excuse me, um, in October about signups here for the food bank, which was great, but we have ADKA and we have other organizations that maybe could come over and work with people. So hopefully you can invest some time in that. Thank you.

Thank you.

Anyone else? Any public comment that's not on the agenda? Yes, Mr. Moody. Robert Moody. So, every morning we walk around Plymouth and the path along the highway. So every morning that arbor tree company, they proceed to park in front of the electrical power plant over here. PG,

you got two feet to walk around them and compete with the traffic. There's nothing marked. There's a little teeny yield sign, but that is our walking path. And I asked him yesterday and he just Yeah. Okay. He just sat there. But they parked their trucks and everything. Well, there's a parking lot right across the street. Is this in front of PG& is that? Yeah. This is that Arbor tree. No, no, no. They're parking in front of PG&E by the Elorado Savings. Okay. You know what I'm talking about. It stops right there at the Okay. Haunted house. Yeah. Or haunted. Nothing's labeled there that and they're parking there. So,

okay. And then second one, are we still on schedule for that flashing speed zone thing on that half of town? That's a Cameron question. Are you talking about along the the 49 that No, old sack. Old sack going out. Yeah, that was before Cameron was brought on. That could have gotten lost in translation. The speed flashing speed. Yeah.

The uh plan for that had to be readjusted because the price of everything that was originally going to be ordered changed and it was going to be purchased from Sierra for with fully reimbured funds that wouldn't put the city out of pocket. So that's what helped that out. But that is still in the works. That is not Yeah, cuz the sheriff sat down there couple mornings and I think he was eyeballing my neighbor and not the traffic that was speeding by him or the running of the stop signs. [laughter] Thank you. Hey Kanan, is that the that order we placed about two months ago?

Okay, Mr. Moody. Um, all those projects have been to Lace. Kenan was right. there was some uh price issues um that have been adjusted. We're actually going for a cheaper price now, but I was told 6 to 8 months and that was about a month and a half, two months ago. So, it it's coming. I apologize for the delay.

Anyone else for public comment of items not on the agenda? Seeing none, I'll go to the anyone on the internets. Did we have any written public comment? Okay, I will close public comment at this time. Going to move to uh item 4.1, proclamation declaring November as National Indian Heritage Month. I'm going to go ahead and read in the proclamation. I I don't have the skill set anymore at my age to memorize this, so I have to read it. uh proclamation declaring November as National American Indian Heritage Month. Whereas November is nationally recognized as National American Indian Heritage Month and the city of Plymouth would like to recognize how our history and culture of our n great nation has been significantly influenced by Native Americans and indigenous people. And whereas both law and proclamation recognized the American Indians as the first inhabitants of the lands that now constitute the United States, as well as making mention of their contributions to American society. And whereas in 1990, Congress passed public law 101-343, which authorized and requested the president to issue a proclamation designating the month of November, 1990 as National American Indian Heritage Month. Congress chose the month of November to recognize the American Indians as this month concluded the traditional harvest season and was generally a time of Thanksgiving and celebration for the American Indians. And whereas Native Americans have influenced every aspect of the America's development. As we celebrate their heritage, we extend our gratitude for their bravery and service in defending our nation for more than

200 years. Whereas we recognize the Ion band of Miwok Indians comprised of northern Sierra Miwok and Naen people for who for thousands of years have lived on the lands that make that today make up Amodore County and the surrounding area. Therefore, be it resolved that the city of Plymouth, California, hereby proclaims the month of November as the American as the National American Indian Heritage Month. In witness hereof, this proclamation is duly adopted. On November 13th, 2025, we're going to move to consent calendar items. Do we have any public comment on consent calendar items? Seeing none, closing public comment. Can I get a motion to approve the consent calendar? I'll make a motion to approve the consent calendar.

I'll second it. Council member Bottomley. I. Council member Dell. I. Council member Hornish. I. Vice Mayor Nun. I,

Mayor Cranford. I thank you. Motion passes. At this time, we'll move to regular agenda items. 7.1, discussion and possible action to authorize the city manager to execute an agreement with Belffor property restoration for restoration and inventory of contaminated city records. Um, we'll go to a staff report on this first and then we'll open up for public comment. Thank you, mayor. Uh during a recent search for historical uh water wastewater related records and other records, staff located decades of city documents stored in a portable building located near the wastewater treatment plant. Upon inspection, it was determined that the structure had deteriorated over time, allowing water intrusion and rodent infestation. As a result, the majority of the stored records have been compromised by moisture, mold, and rodent damage. To assess the condition and determine possible recovery options, staff contact Belffor uh property restoration, a firm specializing in document restoration and contamination mitigation. Following an on-site evaluation, Belffor concluded that the most records are unlikely to be fully salvageable due to the extent of the damage. However, the company recommended cleaning limited limited decontamination and inventorying of all materials to prevent additional deterior deterioration and ensure safe handling. Um but let it know it should even after the cleaning process access to these materials will still require proper PPE such as uh N95 mask and gloves um due to residual contamination concerns. Uh Belelffor did provide a um quote uh ranging between 4700 and 6,350 uh depending on the final scope of the work. And it's our recommendation that um you guys discuss and possibly direct

us to approve and execute services of Belfor property restoration in the amount not to exceed 6350.

Thank you. We'll go to public comment. Uh I have one written in here. Stephanie, if you want to come up, Stephanie Moreno, I wasn't coughing and sneezing till I got here, so I must be allergic to meetings. [laughter] Um, so, um, I applaud the city manager for taking this head on because I've been complaining about for a couple years, so I'm glad that it's finally getting taken care of. I do have some um concerns if I could say them. Um first of all, words matter as your attorney will tell you and it talks about critical documents um will be saved. But that whether something's critical should be determined by the city, not the company. And that's not indicated how that's going to happen in the agreement. Um, for example, if there's some old ditch photos or records in there, those are essential for you to have because you're a FEMA grant, but uh, you know, a technician looking at them might not think that they're critical. So, determining how that that standard is going to be met is very important. I think there's also a thing in there saying that boxes will be disposed of that are molded or contaminated. And I think it should say empty boxes so that they're not just saying looking at the outside of the box and saying, "Oh, it's mold day, so we can throw it away and just toss it." So those are two things. Um [clears throat] I don't think the dollar amount's high enough. Um I think that you're going to find that the scope is going to have to expand when they get in and look at things. And so, um, I I think you should authorize the city manager a little bit more money so that he can make an amendment if needed, um, without waiting to come back to the city council because time matters on these kind of preservation things. Um, and then, um,

uh, the only other thing is I'm hoping that they'll look for the map of the cemetery, which has, um, I asked Vicki about it. She hasn't seen it. It was here um, when Rex took over. Um Nancy [clears throat] Lima assured me it was going to be put in a safe place. Um it's it has more information on it than the recreated map. So I'm hoping you'll find that old map. If it's down there, I hope it gets saved. Um or if you can find it here, that'd be nice, too. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else for public comment on this agenda item?

Rosemary Marino Moody, Plymouth. Um, I just want to know if they've checked to make sure there's not any documents being or files it like the city yard or behind city hall here or somewhere if they've checked to make sure there not might be other potential issues with some of the storage. I don't know where they all store it, but I thought there were other places other than the sewer plant at one time. Thank you. I I can address that if that's all right. Sure.

Um, we have looked elsewhere. We do have a a storage container behind city hall with documents in it. Um the gentleman that came out to examine our our stuff, our issues did go in there. Um all those documents seem okay. They're not moldy or anything like that. Um we've instructed our staff to start working on those to get them digitized as fast as possible. Um so we don't have any issues, but the container is pretty pretty solid and holding true. Thank you.

Thank you. [sighs and gasps] Um, any other public comment on 7.1? Seeing none online, we had none written in. Correct. Okay, we'll close public comment at this time and move to uh council conversation. Uh, council member Bottomley, do you want to do you have any thoughts?

It needs to be done. You know, these are important city documents and great care needs to be in preserving them. I don't I think hiring a company that knows what they're doing instead of trying to save some money and take it on ourselves or, you know, have anybody um do it. Yeah. I I I'm looking at some of these pictures, I don't even know what to say. Like some of them it seems like it's a it's a shame. Yeah. But um yeah, I I'm I'm getting it taken care of. Okay, Council Member Dill,

I agree that we need to move forward on this as soon as possible just to um not lose any more documents. Um I do like um I think it was Stephanie that said, you know, that the cost will probably go up when they get in there and find what they're doing. So, um I would like to see a little bit of wiggle room um to give Cameron some um authority to make sure that we get the project done without delaying it. Thank you. Mr. Hoger, got any comments?

Yeah, my first thought was, wow, that's cheap. um having lived through some sort of natural disaster in my own home. Um that number is going to go up. So yeah, I would empower him uh Mr. Cameron beg me to spend more than that. And I think we need to decide on a okay uh crucial final number if you will, a ceiling not to go over without checking again. Um do you want to throw a number out for funsies? I mean, 10 grand easily, 15 even. I mean, okay, that's Yeah. All right.

Um, who's going to do the handholding with those people? That guy. Canon. Okay. Cuz, you know, to the earlier point, we got to have somebody in there that's gets to decide what's what, what's important, what's not. Because if there's something in there that's not really important, let's not pay for it to have it saved. Oh, Andreas, I think an initial pass is going to be just seeing what is conceivably salvageable versus not. Sure. So, I think that's why the dollar amount right now is rather low. Okay. So, they might come back with another dollar amount. I I wouldn't be surprised if once we get into seeing if there's a huge amount of documents that can conceivably be salvaged, right, that number is going to grow substantially. Yep.

But right now, as you see from the pictures, there's just a bad state of affairs in there. Yes. So I think that's why the number is relatively low right now for their initial assessment sorting of what can actually even be saved versus not. Right. And if I may add um the gentleman was telling us about LOI had a similar issue um and built for is certified to handle city documents and confidential documents that we we handle every day. Um but load eye was up to 50 60 grand. Um they have much more as a scope of work. Okay.

They had a lot more and it required transportation and hazmat type truck to um I think Utah was it where they process and try and salvage all these and they have all the special equipment. I didn't think uh that was necessary to um until we knew what we were looking at. Um, we haven't gone through the documents only because of the hazmat a concern. We removed the documents from the trailer down at the wastewater plant and they are in a a dry area now. But, um, this was their recommendation at least just to go through, clean everything up, see what we have, reinventory everything, and then rebox it into new banker boxes. Was there any talk or mention of and I don't know if this is necessary but of an NDA with Belffor?

That conversation didn't come up but I could definitely address that. I'm just curious if there is something in there that you know it may be in their contract. Yeah. Okay. I can explore that. Yeah. We'd make sure that anything they handle would be handled in strict confidence. Yes. Yeah. Oh yeah. I have a question. So you say Loi did Belffor do LOI as well? Yeah. Are there anybody is there any other company that does this that or so so there is now um believe it or not it's pretty tough to Google you know somebody that handles this kind of stuff when you Google restoration you get a lot of home stuff

um but I've talked to WGA who uh Larry White actually has worked with other companies similar to this so I could definitely get more quotes um are you good Wendy? Yeah. Okay. Thank you Don. Yeah. Um the documents are extremely important and I'm definitely want to try and restore [snorts] them but best we can. Um [clears throat] I don't want I'd be ler to go too far above what they're asking for because you know you give people a leeway they tend to spend it is the problem. Um, so I would say that uh the city manager can always come back to us and uh you know maybe we could put it on the agenda you know as a if he needs to at the nearest next meeting and we could uh go from there. I I would think maybe up to 7500 if he thinks we needed to to do that. Um weigh in on that but like I said we could always come back and spend more. The other issue I would have is uh I fantastic to have the the public works superintendent there. I like that idea. Um however, I wouldn't want the public works superintendent put in the position where he is deciding what documents get tossed out. Um the public works superintendent is not an attorney and might not know what documents are valuable or not. Um, so I'd want no documents actually tossed or thrown out without uh contacting the city manager who in turn contacted attorneys to decide if uh this is something because obviously if these records were saved at one point there was a reason they were saved. And so um it you know I wouldn't I I definitely want the public work superintendent on

scene to be there um when this is going on. I wouldn't want to be in the position of deciding that I would want that to go to to the city manager or city attorney. I would think the only reason they would throw something out is if it was so contaminated that it couldn't be salvaged would be my assessment. I mean, right. I mean, yeah, the initial pass of destruction would just be they'd be destroying things that they couldn't even recognize anymore. for anything that is they couldn't bring back from the dead. Basically, anything that's identifiable in any way, shape, or form, we'd want to have them create a log just to know Yeah. what we're dealing with. And then from that log, we could determine what we keep and what we can destroy.

Okay. Um so, first I just want to give credit where credit's due on this. Um this has been an ongoing issue from what I've heard for years now. I'm not certain why um multiple people seeing these in the condition that they were in didn't at the very minimum cover them with plastic. I I don't understand why they just continued to be rained on and and destroyed in that building. Uh, so I want to give a bit of a shout out here to Cameron that he went in there first of all that he even went in the building and second that when he saw the problem immediately took action instead of just allowing it to continue to sit. So kudos to you sir for taking care of that. Um, and I'm inclined to agree with my council members that obviously we need to preserve these documents. That that's a no-brainer. I would think anybody would agree with that. And um I like the idea of of uh raising the amount just a little bit here so that we give some discretionary room for Cameron. Um the $10,000 mark I don't mind. Uh $7500 not opposed to that necessarily either. That's not a whole lot over the 6350 they're asking for. Uh keeping in mind that we're on an incredibly strict budget. Um I trust Cameron that he would do everything he could to mitigate that and make sure that that we were spending as little money as possible. So, that being said, I feel that we could

probably do the 10 grand in in trusting Cameron that he is uh pretty frugal and so he's not going to want to spend any more than we absolutely have to. So, um I it sounds to me like the entire council is in favor of preserving the documents. And so to me, the only question then is the amount in which we give discretionary spending to. And and honestly, I'm I'm pretty sure that the city manager has discretionary spending up to 20 grand. Yeah. 25 25 grand. So he didn't So So another kudos to him is that he didn't even have to actually bring this to us. He could have just taken care of it. Um, so in in that I I appreciate the transparency in letting us know about it and letting the the community know about it. So technically he's already got the go-ahad to to spend up to 25. Um, so if we want to put a limit under that, that's actually what we would be what we would be voting on, I believe. But

with 10 grand.

Yeah, but he's our he's our doors stop. Well, so just to be clear, the the contract would still be for the initial amount they quoted and Cameron would just have room to to negotiate past that with a modified scope. We're not saying we would just give them the full amount right up front. Yeah. All right. Can I get a motion for for um action on this item? If if if no one else excuse me if no one else has any other comments here on the council. Debbie, go ahead.

I'll make a motion to go forward with authorizing the city manager to execute an agreement with Belelfford Property Restoration for the restoration and inventory of contaminated city records. and to authorize him to go over the quote um up to $10,000. Second. Council member Bottomley I. Council member Dell I. Council member Hornish. I. Vice Mayor Nun I.

Mayor Cranford I. Thank you. Motion passes. Okay. We're going to move to item 7.2, discussion and possible action to approve toot grant requests for challenge of the champions rodeo for up to $15,000. Uh we'll go to a staff report first and then we'll open it up for public comment.

Thank you, Madame Mayor. Uh throughout the years, the city has supported the Challenge of Champions Rodeo, which is a California High School Rodeo Association event. The event will take place at the Amar County Fairgrounds March 20th through 22nd through uh 2026. The high school rodeo contestants are the top three qualifiers in their event from the nine districts in California. In the years of 2023 24 and 2025, the city has granted $15,000 each year to support the rodeo. The challenge of champion rodeo is asking for a toot grant of $15,000 for their 2026 event. Uh the fiscal impact is $15,000 from our transient occupancy tax fund. The tot streets and promotions has appropriated only $40,000 for fiscal year 2025 or 2526 to promote all events throughout the city. The challenge of champions rodeo has provided an estimated economic impact formula from the American Quarter Horse Association from the organizers that is based on data from the Fort Worth, Texas Chamber of Commerce, which does not necessarily apply equally to California or the city of Plymouth. The city receives approximately 1 cent for every dollar spent within our city limits out of the 7.75 sales tax we have as we do not have a special tax assessed for the city at the moment. And the city has recently experienced a significant decline in available TOT revenue collected. And the staff recommends the city council discuss this top grant application and provide direction to staff regarding whether any and how much money should be awarded. Thank you.

Thank you. We'll open it up for public comment at this time. Anyone that wants to make public comment on 7.2? I see Mr. Williams coming up. Craig Williams, the U volunteer chairman, producer of the Challenger Champions High School Rodeo, Plymouth. Um, I understand the situation. Cameron and I had some meetings and hopefully you could help us out in some form. Uh, in the past we've successfully kept the rodeo in Plymouth. That's my concern. It's a statewide organization and therefore we have four meetings a year and oftentimes folks want to move this event and as long as we keep things kind of how it is, it gives me the power to keep it here. That's my concern. And furthermore, I want to thank the city very much for all the all the support because it it's made it a successful safe rodeo to have your help. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Williams.

John,

yeah, I have some experience with this. When we were on the council way back um uh 10 15 years ago, we did surveys because they had the same problem. But we found out back for many many years u the challenge of championship was getting less than 5% of the tot tax that was created um through the city's funds and u and uh only about 30% of what they generated in property tax I mean in tot tax and and sales tax. It's it's going to be unclear um just what the those numbers would be today if there was an audit done on them, but I still believe that the challenge championship is going to bring more sales tax and to tax in to you than than this 15,000. The big issue I was uh attended meetings here. They had statewide meetings here uh three years ago and there was a big big push to get this uh uh challenge in either Bishop or Red Bluff and they both pushed very hard and we were very lucky to be able to keep it up to this point. So it's on the verge of of of the other powers trying to get this. It's it's a great great thing for the kids. My grandson was in it and went on clear to Calpali and then to to finals in Las Vegas. It's character building for these kids. It's unbelievable. These these kids u and your 4 and FFA kids are the future um officials of our communities. And I think it's very very

important that you support this the best you can. And I think if you research it, you find out that they're going to be bringing in more money and then there's 15,000. Thank you. Thank you, Stephanie. I apologize. I saw I just now looked down and saw that you uh wrote in on 7.2.

Stephanie Moreno. Um, just for the record, I don't care what order I go in as long as I get to speak. I try to do my papers first so I don't forget.

No, I know that, but I'm just saying you're not going to hurt my feelings. Okay. Um, so I recognize that the event has been a long-standing tradition and in the past there's actually been council members and that have had family members in the the rodeo and um but it's a lot of money considering that we have a limited amount in our toot revenues right now and we're not generating as much as we used to. um this event, even though I know there's um um a a summary in there from the horse association about how much revenue it generates, that's not the kind of revenue that you would see here based on the situation we have at this time. Maybe in the future when we get some more hotels in, but right now we don't. Um, I [clears throat] think it would be more beneficial for the city council to think about helping out directly the businesses that support our tourism, um, and are benefited by our tourism in the way of some kind of miniigrants or, um, other improvements, um, you know, just things you could do around town that would help out, like another charging station. There's only one in town and that gets busy sometimes, people wanting it. or, you know, paving the parking lot behind the pop-up so people can use it when it's bad weather. There's other things you could do more directly that would benefit to. So, I'm hoping that you will reduce this amount. Um um I think you've been giving out amounts of 2,2500 to other people that are actually, you know, coming in and asking to do events for the city. And I just um would like you to consider a smaller amount this year um given the financial situation that we're in and then maybe talk about using some of those monies to directly benefit. Um I talked to a local business not in in Plymouth but another one in the county that you know the tariffs have hurt them significantly because their supplies they can't get in the US you know for their equipment and

stuff. I don't know if anyone in town's like that, but there are some impacts that maybe you could explore and talk about offsetting. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else for 7.2? I see I have a hand up online. I think it's Elizabeth Sha Penote. Hi. Can you hear me?

We can. Um, as someone who pays to taxes and um uh benefits from tourism, the Challenge of the Champion Rodeo always brings business to um our Airbnbs. Not that we have trouble filling them, but they they bring a a good clientele. Um as more restaurants come downtown, they fill restaurants that, you know, they buy at Pokerville. just think that that this is um the kind of activity that that we want to support and that we want to to bring into town. I I'm you know, if if we're not generating as much revenue, you know, maybe not as much, but I just don't want to lose I I would like I hate to see the city lose this event. Thank you.

Thanks. Appreciate it. Anyone else? Okay, seeing none, we'll close public comment for 7.2 and move to council conversation. Mayor Cranford. Yes. Um, Mr. Williams submitted written public comment for this item to replace the one that was in the packet. Okay. Thank you.

Um, council member conversation. Uh, did I I closed public comment, right? threw me off my game. Miss Sticky, [laughter] it doesn't take much. Um, Council Member Bottomley, do you want to Okay. Okay. Miss Debbie. Um, so I do have a question. Um, in the staff report it says that we had appropriated 40,000 for streets and promotions. And I thought we had budgeted 60,000 for streets and promotions and the 40,000 was for something else. Did I have that backwards?

I was going off the the budget that we looked at and I might have misunderstood it. I can go double check real quick if you like. Okay. I I mean to me the $20,000 makes a huge difference in when we're talking how we want to spend the money because that would be this 15,000 would be almost half of our our annual allocation of what we wanted to spend. I did speak with uh Andy Heath, our finance director, um as I was kind of mulling through on how to approach this and um he's the one that pointed the number out to me on the budget, so I'm pretty confident in it, but I could go double check.

Okay. Would you mind double checking while we continue to chat about it? Um, Pular. Um, so 40 grand or whatever the number he comes back with for the rest of fiscal year 2526. Um, do we have any major events or toot asks until 2627 would be my question too? That's hard to determine because we don't know who's going to submit a grant. Traditionally speaking, uh, traditionally speaking, we're going to have, what do we have coming in the spring? Some of my old time

fours one. We've got four fires. They're going to ask for stuff. That's five. Uh, yeah, about five. They usually ask for around five. Um, that's the only one I can think of off the top of my head. feel like we're missing something. Anybody in the audience, Miss Vicki, you would know just for fires. Because that to me, you know, makes it different. Yeah. Um is that is that your moment? Um I also struggle with the formula of horses times days times people here. Let me tell you the formula of horses. They're always expensive.

Yeah. So there is no cheap port. That's a known known fact. Um but I mean I agree with what's already been mentioned that you know we have different struggles uh not having enough standard hotels and things people can stay at. So our toot draw would be less than um and I'm going to wait for Cameron to come back.

Okay. Do you have any comments before Cameron comes back? Are you okay? No. So, uh, excuse. So, uh, going over the sales tax thing. Um, think about that. Basically, for every $100,000 that gets spent in the city, the city's only receiving $1,000 back. And uh I have a hard time believing um since we've lost our hotel, limited number of uh spaces at the 49er that uh the city itself would actually even be bringing in that much getting spent over that time possibly. So, but I mean uh even if it was $300,000 got spent over that weekend um on sales and taxable items, you're only looking at $3,000. [sighs] Um, [clears throat] so I think uh we know the situation we're in as a city and most of us do. And in years past, you know, it was great that we were able to do that. We were recovering that money we were putting out. And now we're not doing that so much. And I think that uh you know, we need to run the city like you'd run a business, like you run your home. And you know, if you can't afford something, you don't buy it. And you know, we can't uh sit here and say, "Well, we're going to give what we've given in the past just because we don't want the rodeo going somewhere else." If they decide to move it, they decide to move it. That's unfortunate, and I don't want that. However, I don't think we should be buying stuff we can't afford.

Um Oh, I believe the budget is 60,000 for promotion support. You found it. Yeah. And 40,000 was for the Mickey Park project out of that uh streets and promotions. Kanan, will you get Cameron and tell him we found it? Will you get Cameron and tell him we found the number? Can may I rebuttal to Mr. No. Okay. Yes, of course.

To Mr. Nun's uh sentiment. Um I agree with, you know, if you can't afford it, don't buy it. But we're not necessarily buying the rodeo. Um, I think some of this toot fund is earmarked to help others and if that's putting on a great show that locals can go to, so be it. I would also hate to move it, but I mean, I struggle as well because that's a lot of money out of our tot.

Yeah. So, I'll I'm gonna um weigh in on this just because um I can um first I want to say that Challenge of the Champions Rodeo is near and dear to my heart. I don't know that you know this, Mr. Williams, but I grew up with your daughter and so uh watched you and and your family work hard on this for many years. Um, I don't want it to go to Red Bluff. I know that's a big concern is that it it could go to Red Bluff uh as one of the options. We're really stuck in a conundrum because we've lost the TOOT uh money from the Shannondoa, which was a significant, it was the second highest revenue of TOOT in the city of Plymouth. Uh, and that's gone. Um, essentially the struggle I think the council has in general is that we no longer are seeing an influx from toot at all. If we got money from toot, it's being pulled from the general fund to be put in there. Um, so I I don't in my opinion I don't see how we can grant the 15,000 this year. in being fair across the board. We've reduced grant funding to other folks that have asked because we have a finite amount of funds now. It's not it's not as if the funds are going to be replenished. They're not going to keep coming in. There will become a point where we can't give any toot grants. So, um I I think we have to I I want to give something, but I think we're going to have to have a conversation about what that looks like this year. Um and it just it it it's tough and it and it really is troublesome for me. That

being said, I also want to offer that my daughter and I both have had conversations about working with Challenge of the Champions in doing some sort of fundraising effort and we would be very interested on a personal level in doing that. So, um maybe that's something we can talk about or I can reach out to Sarah and Bo about. Um did you have something? Uh you haven't said anything yet, Wendy. Yeah, I I just realized that you hadn't said anything yet. So, I just want to give you the opportunity. That that's that's my two cents is we just can't give the 15,000 being fair across the board to other entities and trying to preserve some money. So, if we do if we are able to keep challenge of the champions here, we will have something to give again next year. I don't want to deplete the fund to where we have nothing, you know, nothing to give in the future years. Yeah, I agree with what exactly what you said. I $15,000 right now for the city is a lot of money. And if we're going to give $15,000 out, I'd like to see it be for something that would benefit the city. I I think this Challenge of Champions is a great is a great event. I knew somebody that was in it last year. I went to it. Um, but I just don't see the benefit that this the city gets as far as funds and do the city of the people of Plymouth, do they participate in it? Do they go or they get they do especially the youth? Um, we have the I mean, as you know, our our county in general is the the bread and butter is agg and so there's a lot of A kids that attend that

are not only in the rodeo uh that participate in other ways in the rodeo. They may not be a contestant, but um they help with and volunteer for and things like that. So there is a benefit for youth in that regard. And then I would say it does benefit the city in that Kina, you almost can't go eat at Kina when the Challenge of the Champions is here because it's full all the time. Um and the 49er is usually full. So that's good. That's bringing some POT. We're we're losing money there too in Toot because we have so many permanent residents, but there's some happening there. Uh Marlene and Glenn's is always packed during Challenge of the Champions. Um and Taste is is actually frequented as well. Um so we do have people eating and you know and then the gas stations and all of that's happening, right? Plus, it just I think it brings a wholesome awesome vibe to town. So, if we had the money, I would just say let's do it. But, um, we just don't we don't have that. I think we should do something. I think the conversation

needs to be what amount? Yes, I I I agree with that. Yeah. The whole 15,000 would be a lot. Yeah. No, throw a number.

I mean, to just throw a number off the top of my head, I'm thinking somewhere between 7,500 and 10. Um, that that might be a little high for for some of you guys. I don't know. That's just the immediate that comes to my mind. Um, with bearing in mind that four fires is going to come in March and then we probably won't have many asks again until the the next budget. I I don't think

I don't do they ask did they ask for money last year? the Berry Festival. Yes, you're right. They don't ask for very much, but yes, they you're right. But we don't know who else will show up. Yeah, sure.

Berry Festival. Wagon Train. Wagon Train passed the the next fiscal year. Berry Festival's in June, early June. So they would ask before five. Okay. And did we decide that we have 60,000 or 40? Yes. Is that okay? But we won't be giving any money into it. That's the important

piece that we will there will be none because the the 60 is from the streets. And my understanding when we did the budget was that the 60k won't be replenished. It'll just continue to drain because there's nothing coming in to replace that. The ask is greater than whatever is coming in. Correct.

I don't have the that exact amount for you. Um, council member, however, I mean, it's a dwindling account.

Yeah. I just know when we had the the budget meeting, I because this was something I was confused about. So, I asked Andy that we're robbing from Peter to pay Paul. We're pulling from the general fund in order to cover this particular account. Is that your same understanding, Andreas? Do you remember that? My understanding was that if we continue to spend at the current level for many years to come, we would have to start taking from the general fund. The toot fund gets split amongst the general fund and some other funds like the streets and promotions fund. The toot grant program comes out of that streets and promotions fund. And so Andy's point, my understanding was was that we're not getting enough toot to cover all of those things that historically the Toot was being split out into. So right now there's not enough TOT coming in to keep replenishing the streets and promotions fund the way it was in past years.

Correct. Instead, it's just going to the bucket that was going into the general fund. Correct. So while there is still tot coming in, it'll go into the general fund rather than the streets and promotions fund to continue funding this toot grant program. Correct. Yes. You said it so much better than I did. It's almost like you're an attorney. Uh so it's just going to keep dwindling. Yes, it'll keep up at this pace. No. So, thoughts,

thoughts, comments, concerns. Um, I mean, if we have been and I will more than likely continue to um, you know, deliberate with future asks, right? And so, I think if we took 15,000 ask down to 10, um, that is a third. I don't think we should go half C's on them. Um that seems to be I don't know kind of a knee-jerk reaction on our part, but I think cutting it down by five grand already is like I said a third less. Um if they can keep it here another year or two years or ongoing that therefore that'd be great. Um and if not then we stand to lose that but we cannot help the fact that our tots are dwindling. So we should do what we can. Debbie or Don,

I agree with what Holar was saying. Um, I would support reducing it by the 5,000. I still think uh 10,000 is way more than uh we should be spending on it given the current situation. I'd be all in at $5,000. It would be my max to go vote on this. Um, you know, I'd love to be able to do the whole 15. It's just that's not the situation we're in and the money's not getting recovered. So, um, like you said, so I think we got to look at we don't know who else is going to hit us for stuff. [clears throat] And, uh, yeah, 5,000 is going to be my max. Um, I I would lean in at 7,500. I think that splits the difference between 10 and five. Um, I think I would be more comfortable if we if I if I could see that we were getting monetary back. Yes, it it does to some. I just I just I'm not I'm not seeing it.

Well, we're also supporting local businesses with this, right? Having this event here. Yeah. Yeah. They're doing they do really well the weekend of the rodeo. Um Yes.

I Oh, can you lower your hand? I think actually she doesn't. I think that she already made her public comment and just didn't lower her hand. No. Oh, it was down and it came back up. Um, we are past public comment. Elizabeth, I don't know. Does she? Huh?

She's not unmuting. Oh, sorry. Um, I just wanted to say that that thank you for letting me talk. Um, you're talking about toot taxes without realizing that you have to support things that generate the toot taxes. Um, the rodeo does. Um, for fires does not. Four fires is self-contained. They eat there. Um, it when you make decisions like this, it it would probably behoove you to ask the people that still actually pay toot taxes what generates from them and for them. Um, I know we give toot taxes to um to uh things like the berry festival, but that doesn't generate that doesn't help you generate toot taxes back. Nobody that comes to the Berry Festival stays at any of the Airbnbs or the 49ers. So when you talk about spending toot taxes, I would like it as someone who just paid toot taxes for this past quarter. Um if you would consider what's going to help me make the money to pay into the toot tax fund, if that makes sense. because your conversation was around keeping the money and having the money and what it would do for the citizens of Plymouth and what other things are coming up, but if the other things coming up don't help generate toot taxes, it seems foolish to fund them as opposed to something that does. That's just all I wanted to say. the funds are generated by tourism for tourism and um to for by tourism to help us continue to pay into it if that makes sense.

Yep. Thanks. That's a solid point.

Yeah. So, um that that being said, that that point does bring me to I do know that I I actually did talk with um Tracy at REST and other than other than the 49er, REST is our and Airbnbs, those are our only forms of toot right now. Um not all of our Airbnbs are paying toot for for some reason. I know the pun's are so I want to make sure I say that. Um so uh I I I agree with the comment you know we need to have people coming here to use the facilities to generate the toot. So it's a fairy fair point.

Understand your point. However, on this particular event, yes, I've seen years past, the majority of these people stay on the fairgrounds property for free, and we don't get any top funds off of that.

That is true. There's a lot of trailers at the at the 40, not the 49er, the fairgrounds. There might be some of them paid in to go into the 49er, but for the most part, the 49er so full um with long terms right now um construction workers and so forth that you're only talking, you know, a portion of, you know, those spaces. Um I think the vast majority of the people that are coming for the event stay over the weekend stay on that property because it I've looked back there. I've t back there and it's a lot of people staying back. Yeah.

And the other the other point to make to Mr. thing is I understand what she's saying. However, it's about the total amount of good it does for all the businesses um as far as sales for everybody. So, we're not looking at just um that we get a lot in tot $15,000 in tot. We don't have the infrastructure here available now for that. There's not enough rooms for people to rent. There's not enough spots in the RV park available for rent that you would be making back nearly be making money back off of the tot. [snorts]

Well, there's there's current I think there's currently aboutund what 180 uh spots available in the in the 49er and it's full. I will say that cuz I've gone over there cuz we know people have come for Challenge of the Champions. So, it is full during Challenge of the Champions. There are a lot of people that stay at the at the fairgrounds. I'll give you that. But I think there even if [sighs and gasps] even if we had 14 hotels, you we are going to still have a lot of people staying because people who rodeo, a lot of them have the live-in horse trailers with living quarters. So they they do that intentionally because it costs them less money to to try, you know. So you you would still have that. Um yeah, I don't know you guys.

I think anyone else. Most of the events right now we're only going about 2500 and that's at five. We're doubling what we're giving anybody else on stuff. Yeah. But this event is all weekend long. It's not one day. So that that does make a difference. I mean, they roll in here midweek and they're here till Sunday, Monday. I understand that. Yeah.

I don't know. Anyone else got any input, comments, thoughts? I think if we reduce it, I don't want to reduce it too much and leave them struggling to be able to to pay for the event. This is, I think, a small portion of of how they fund it. But I do agree, you know, we should reduce it.

I'd like to know, are we the only ones they've come to in the county? Because the county also, you know, get recent financial reward from these people are going to Jackson and other places. Have they approached the board of supervisors? Anybody else? I don't know. They should ask Acorn Ridge if they could donate some money. I I I agree 100%. I think in and I think in future years from their uh income Jackson Rancher is on here. We're on here.

I think I think that in future years they would probably be doing that. I mean, is there an amount that we can all think of and agree on, including Don, or are we like stalemating it? Cuz not saying anything is not going to get us any sure anywhere. So, Don's ferm at five. Yeah. Yep. Don's fum at five. So,

if I know anything about Don, that's where he's sitting. I'll be honest, when I first saw this come up, this for this grant, I was like right around that same mark, five 5,000. Um, only because there's a panic in my belly over finances. Um,

would you come up to send to them? I I'm I'm good at 7500. Uh I hate to cut it in half, but I think there's some maybe other opportunities um for fundraising and and stuff like that, and I'd be willing to to help out with that. Um yeah, I'd be willing to go to 7500, I think. Yeah, I would be in for 7500 as well. and and for this year and let's let's hope maybe next year's better, right? You know, we're not all at loss, right?

I know. So, I mean, the hope is that we're going to get some uh we've got a hotel proposed to come here, right? That's keeps kind of circling around. So, we're hoping that maybe comes to fruition up there near the brewery. Um the hope is this will continue. We we're going to make a change here and get on a better path. I'd support 7500.

What are you looking at, Don? No, I know he's not going to budge. I'm done. So, I'll make a motion to uh approve Toott Grand request um for the Challenger Champions Road for $7,500. I'll second. Council member Bottomley. I. Council member Dell. I. Council member Hornish. Hi. Vice Mayor Nun. No.

Mayor Cranford. I. Thank you. Motion passes. Okay. Um, I keep waiting for this to be fun. We'll go to item.

We'll go to item 7.3, discussion and possible action to delegate authority. Yeah, sure. Uh, we're going to go ahead and take a quick break. Uh, 7:42. Give a five minute 10 minute five minute break.

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You ready? Can we bring the meeting back to order, please? 7:48 p.m. We're going to move to agenda item 7.3, discussion and possible action to delegate authority to the interim city manager to execute contracts allowing septage disposal at the city of Plymouth wastewater treatment plant. Uh we will go to a staff report on this item first. Thank you, Madam Mayor. The city of Plymouth operates a state permitted wastewater treatment plant that processes municipal waste water. While many parts of the city's infrastructure are stressed, the city's wastewater treatment plant has excess processing cap capacity available. Several septic holders operating in and around the city have recently expressed interest in utilizing our wastewater treatment plant for the disposal of domestic septage collected from private septic systems in the county. Staff is proposing to accept and charge haulers on a per load volutric basis. Offering this service on this per load volumetric basis maximi maintains maximum flexibility for the city and allows the city to discontinue service for any reason at any time. If for example the capacity is needed to treat sewage from new service connections to the city's sewer collection system. Allowing this activity would provide a service that supports proper wastewater management and environmental protection while generating additional revenue for the city. While several haulers have expressed interest, there is no predictable revenue stream that would be generated by this opportunity. Though it would enable the city to generate revenue from existing capacity of the wastewater treatment plant. To ensure consistency and accountability across haulers, staff has developed a standardized contract template that outlines disposal procedures, fees, permitted waste types, and compliance requirements. Each hauler seeking to use this service would be required to sign an agreement with the city prior to the city

accepting any septage from them at the wastewater treatment plant. Uh the fiscal impact, the staff does not have any precise projections as to how much revenue this service will generate for the city. Offering this service will not incur additional cost to the city as no additional staffing is required at this time and existing plant personnel will manage intake and monitoring with within current workloads and schedules. Our recommendation is to delegate authority to the interim city manager to execute contracts with licensed septic companies in a form substantially similar to the template agreement attached here too allowing licensed septic companies to dispose of septage at the Plymouth Wastewater Treatment Plant. and our wastewater treatment plant operator Brady um has made himself available as well as our public works superintendent for any questions. Thank you.

Thank you. We're going to move to public comment and then we'll move to council conversation. Uh Stephanie, we have you on the paper here.

Thank you, Stephanie Moreno. Um, I'd like to applaud the city manager for coming up with this innovative idea. Not opposed to it, but I think the city council needs to be more thoughtful um than what I've seen in the staff report. Um, there's some questions that need to be addressed. Um, one is that um, you have a permit and it it's important to make sure that you're coordinating any change in scope with regional waterboard. And if I can give you an analogy, um, you all are upset because the 49er changed their uses without consulting the city be the similar if you were to change your uses of the sewer plant without consulting the permit authority. Um, it it may be okay to do, but it makes sense to make sure that they're okay with it. Um secondly, when the original permit um or this current permit I think was issued in 2011 was issued there was SQA done on it. Um hauling waste outside waste into the system was not part of that environmental review. At the very least, I encourage you to do a notice of exemption for this project so that you limit your exposure for potential litigation um because there might be some um with the increased truck traffic and increased exposure to the sewage. Um and that that's a very cheap inexpensive form to file that the attorney could do in a matter of minutes. Um secondly, the fee is a fee. It needs to be established by the city council. It needs to be the same for every sewage pumping service and you haven't established that in here. You haven't given any grounds for how you would figure that out. Um so if uh you can't make money on it, you can only offset your costs by state law. So you would have to figure out what your costs are

going to be and then establish the fee in order to do this. And the council should approve that fee as part of their uh permit fee schedule. Um any revenues that comes in needs to um be incorporated into the rate study because their water wastewater revenues and they need to be offset against expenditures before you determine the water rates that you're going to be increasing for the people that live here. And if it's temporary, it might not be much, but it needs to be reflected in the record that that was considered for the Prop 218 hearing. Um, and when you say there's no additional costs, there are some costs that will have to be incurred because you're going to want staff to be monitoring. You're going to have to have reports coming in. So, there will be a a small increase in costs um that would be incorporated in that revenue. Um, the other thing is it doesn't say where the sewage is going to go into the system. And I initially assumed that they would be driving down to the sewer plant. Can I finish my question? Um to the sewer plant to dump and that would create increased road road traffic um in town and on Old Sacramento Road. Um but now I've been uh I've learned that that theoretically they could just pop a manhole and dump it into the system. And I'm hoping that that's not what they're planning on doing. um because then you have raw sewage that's flowing, you know, in within the city limits um into uh into the system. So, it doesn't say on here that they're going to be dumping of the sewer plants. So, I'd like you to make a determination if that's where you want it to happen so that it doesn't happen elsewhere within the city.

Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else for public comment on 7.3? Do you see how your nieces are always nice and let you go? It's this is really really scary to me. Um, you know, I've been on on council many many times and been in the sewer plant and it is so highly sophisticated you can't believe it with computers and everything. and caller and I'm not that sophisticated to shut my phone off.

Anyway, um the filtering and all that if you if you don't uh run it through the system, it's it's it's scary. Something can go in there that it's going to cost you an awful lot more for repairs than what you're generating revenue, which scares me. And in an example, somebody could just they don't know when they're picking this up what what's going into it. Somebody throw a beer bottle in there and it go through the system. It could raise havoc going through there. So, uh we're pretty well know what's going in there now through household uses. But as an example, this project up here with the service station, they just had people come up there with um basically uh pumping things. They clean the tanks out after they emptied them and they could dump that in there as a system and you don't know what kind of chemicals might be in that. So you got problems getting outside chemicals that may um contaminate your grass. Uh, and you know, get a some kind of a Roundup or something in there to kill a grass or poison your goats. They're down there. And and you really got you don't want to jeopardize that that at all because we were paying $30,000 a year to have goats in there before we got this current agreement where they're it's they're riding the goats for free. We don't want to jeopardize that in any way. So, it's it looks like to me it's a lot of risk to take for Little Dane.

Thank you. Thank you.

Anyone else with public comment? Oh, yeah. Rosemary. Rosemary Marino Moody Plymouth. Um I know part of this has already been brought up, but um the location wasn't specified. So, that threw a red flag up for me cuz it doesn't say they're going to go to the sewage plant. So, I would hope it doesn't um affect the uh quality of life or inconvenience any residents with them um doing it through a manhole close to someone's house or the smell or the the school or anything like that. So, I I would hope that they would take that into consideration if they're not going to do it down there. Um, I also agree about the rate. I think that there should be a standard rate that all of them are charged rather than a contract between the city manager and each individual one where arbitrary amount is put in. So that the council should be deciding that rate. It shouldn't be left up to the city manager for each contract. And um also um I believe it was in 2022 there was an overflow problem at the sewer um during a storm. Somebody um noticed it running out and it was reported and I don't remember all the details but I know it did happen. And so I would hope that we would take precautions on that cuz sometimes with the storm water and everything coming in there's a possibility of overflow. Um that's the only one I know has happened. I don't know if it's happened um since or or prior. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else for public comment? Robert Moody.

Um quick question. Is this tanks coming in that is pumping private parties tanks, septic tanks? Is that what this is? I That's my understanding. If it is, you're dealing with solids, not raw loose sewage. You're dealing with muck solids that have been sitting there for 10 to a year. So, you're going to have a water source to flush this down if it's dumped up here down further. I don't think the intent was ever for it to be dumped in the town. It was always going to be dumped at the plant

cuz I know our condition of our pets and stuff and this is a heavy sludge. This isn't this Yeah. No, we we we were never going to dump it in the in all of these questions at the end. So, um before we went to council for conversation. Did you have any others before I No, I just want everybody It's like raw loose sewage. It's not I' I've done septic and this is this is muck. This is a heavy muck that's been sitting there for a year.

Okay, cool. Thank you. I appreciate it. Um so before we go, does anyone else have any other public comment? Okay. Online written in. Okay. I'm going to close public comment and before we go to council conversation, I saw you were taking notes. Do you want to address any of the questions or or even for our benefit, for the council's benefit, if you could address some of those? Sure. I'd love to hear Brady is uh definitely well versed. Perfect. Let's do that. Hi Brady. Nice to meet you. Um this is the council.

Very good to meet you. So, uh, there's a lot of things in place. So, when we came on, thank you for Sorry to interrupt you. Yeah, you got to get a little closer.

Making a full-time wastewater position first off. So, we got I got here and Cameron tked the team to think of ways to bring in revenue. Um, in 2009, Plymouth had a sewer plant upgrade that was pretty substantial. You have a nice headworks. you have plenty of capacity to take on flow. If you have casinos flow, you can handle that no problem. Um, you've got we just spent well quite a bit of money doing a revamp because this headwork system really hadn't been worked on since 2009. So, we got new sensors, got new screens, the about to get a it's already running like just perfect right now with all this weather. So, um, we can handle the septage. Uh, what we we would become is a municipal and septage treatment plant. Um, I'm confident about our ability to do that. And I say that not only just like with your infrastructure down there, but like with my skills as a treatment plant operator. I'm a grade three waste uh wastewater treatment plant operator. And it's not just um like the city's it mys on the line. So I'm not going to suggest to Cameron to do something that's going to make my job more difficult and potentially hurt myself. You know what I mean? This is a as it is um these guys hold a private sewer plants. So this would be a win-win. They I mean they have talked numbers. We have numbers cameras can't he's got stuff he's sitting on. So, but u we can we could do this and easily take care of

everything. Uh it's not really much traffic as far as uh loads. Um the state I report everything to the state Stephanie so they Yeah, I keep them on board on everything that's going on. Um really uh God I had everything in my house should sign. So let me ask a couple questions kind of that the the public had and then you can just address this. So there would be nobody dumping or draining their sewage anywhere in the city. It would have to go to the sew the sewer plant. That's that's the plan.

Yes. And what we've designed actually u everybody that's seen it already is like oh my god this is what every place should have. This is perfect. It's clean. It's just if you want I'm happy. And then what about the [laughter and gasps] I appreciate your confidence. Yeah. Well and not only that you have [clears throat] one of the largest storage ponds I've ever seen for a sewer plant when it's full. It's not a pond. It's a reservoir. It's you've got more capacity. Plymouth has such potential like not only just your wastewater but your water like there's such potential here like big time.

I think you need to come to every meeting and well just hurra us here. That's what I do and so cool I plot my scheme and I really this okay so and then what about the squa questions and stuff like that. We'll move our sampling our reporting. I'm up on everything. Um I I haven't seen any and we're exempt from title 27. I mean we'll look through but we'll make sure our bases are covered. Like as I said it's your certification is on the line. I'm not going to do something good for my family. Like right I'm trying to this is something that could help Plymouth right and our neighbors. These are local guys.

Um couple them are small. There's one that's pretty big that could help. Okay. So, anyone have uh any council members have any questions for B? Oh, and so the the tanks, they're average about 4,000 gallons. Um it's mainly water. It's 20% solids, which which is already digested. They've already done the job at their house. Uh you've got the infrastructure to now move, store, and then have removed solids at a later date. It'll be a win-win. So, yeah. Uh any council members have questions for Brady? Yeah, I got a few. Um, first off, thank us for making the job. Let me thank you for taking the job. Yeah.

Oh, my pleasure. I understand from several people that that work for us that we're very fortunate to have got you. Oh, thank you. I'm happy to be here. Appreciate being here. Um, there's some questions have been posed to me by constituents here in town. was um the GPD that the the system can operate right now as compared uh to what our maximum is as compared to what we're we're using now. And we'd be looking at adding an extra 7,500 gallons a day, which is a drop in the bucket. So, you're only talking like two truck loads basically. Yeah. I don't even know that. It might not even be a truckload a day. You might not even get that, you know.

Okay. So, and uh because there are some concerns if you know these the developments that uh we have slated to go in if if we end up having that happen. You know, we still have the capacity. So, it sounds like we do. Yeah. I I did that math. You've got plenty of room. Plus has great potential. Okay. Yeah. And then um are you setting an hours operation on them to go in and out of the plant? What would those what would those be that would work for them? Cuz I imagine if if say they're coming from Pioneer Buck Corner somewhere and they do a job at 2 or 3 in the afternoon, they're going to be getting over here a little bit later than you guys work.

Yeah, we'd have to work that out. I wouldn't want anybody in there without somebody being there. Um during the summer months, one one guy said they can run sometimes as late as 7:00 at night. So, this would be something we'd have to work out. um you know Kanan or somebody somebody in town or possibly a camera system or but they have an access or how would you just because it's it's a sewer plant. Um I would want somebody there. Okay. And um it's small enough to juggle and manage really is with everybody.

Um anyone else have any questions? Hi Brady. Hello. Nice to meet you. Uh, how will this be metered or measured? I mean, how do you keep track of these things? I'm just curious how it works. So, it would feed into a custom manhole with a cam lock fitting, receiver, nothing sp. And then it would dump it would eject directly into the headworks, which now been revamped. Um, I'm about to have everything's calibrated right now, but I'll we'll go by what they have loaded and then also I can double check with our flow meters. So, I'm not going to just do like, you know, the

just take their word for it, but I'm going to know every gallon that goes in. Okay. Thank you. [clears throat] Anyone else? Um, I would also like to add that we should call out the fact that they're going to be dumping at the uh sewage plant if that's not already correct. They will be dumping at the suit spelled out. Okay. And then the way it's specified in the contract right now is that they'll dump wherever city staff tells them to dump. Okay. They don't just get to pick. And I'm also curious about this fee.

The fee. Yeah, you can. If you want to have a seat, you can. Brady, I don't want to have to keep you up here. Thank you. Thank you.

So, the business side comes out of this and and doing our research, talking to septic companies. I'd be interested seeing what they pay. Now, um the going rate is 6 cents a gallon. That's where we are proposing to be um for everybody across the board um right now where they're dumping. Some are paying more, some are paying less. Um, but it' be 6 cents a gallon across the board for us. Okay. Anyone else questions, comments, thoughts?

Yeah. Um, I I I like the idea. I think it's a clever way to try to build revenue, you know, get things money coming through through the city. Um, I'd like to see a plan. You know, there's there's like a lot of bits and pieces and a lot of it I don't understand because I don't know anything about sewer treatment plants, but I would like to see, you know, what are the parameters of the of the contracts? You know, how many people will you allow in? Is there going to be a limit? How long will this go on? All those things. And have that information to digest. I'd like to see that and your methodology for pricing. Although you just said that you talked to the other septic places, seeing what they were paying. So, I'd like to just like have it all in one spot that I could look at it and go, "Okay, all my questions are being answered on here that I understand this."

Will those come back to council before being signed or anything? If if you'd like to review each contract before it's entered into, we could do that. That No, I don't think I think we can work on something that's, you know, linear and like for every company. So, the the contract template that's attached that was the intention of being the standardized form.

It's be they sent out the amendment. You you have the original. There was an amendment that was sent that was emailed out. Do you need the amendment?

Oh, sorry. Yeah, please. In the interest of time, do we want to bring this back for December meeting? If if you guys aren't

how quickly are you trying to get this to market, ASA? Because it's Cameron. Have you let me introduce you? So, there were a number of questions raised. So, if you'd like to have it come back and take time to digest the template, we can bring back in December. I mean, under uh line item eight, the insurance, are we increasing the insurance then? Do we need to increase insurance? Why do what do you mean? I mean, if there's more trucks coming in, more waste than what you than what he thinks. Yeah.

Insurance amount that's specified in there is what each individual trucking company has to show that they have. Thank you. So, so they'll be covered. So, if they come onto the site and something happens, we don't have to have more coverage. Correct. They have to prove that they have insurance for their business. Okay. Perfect. Yeah, I had there were some questions about the um the road to the impact, but we're only talking two trucks a day, right? Maybe maybe

as Brady said, sometimes not even any truck. in 4,000 gallons standard three axle truck 4,000 gallons we're talking less than 60,000 so um about 30 ton okay and if I may add council none uh or excuse me there's other options for them to go to I mean we're we're going to have to take a business mindset on this that we provide the same price but a better customer service and a better facility which I think we have but there are their other options so not every truckload that fills up in the county is coming to our plant. Um, but we're just offering the service. Well, [clears throat] what would it take for you to get every truckload?

We're working on that, too, sir. All right. How many do you have? Oh, sorry, Don. Are you done? Okay. Go ahead, Wendy. How many possible customers do we have? um without showing our hand, we we've spoken to um at least five that have verbally committed to using us. Nice. And again, potentially how soon do you have again, excuse me, that want to start dumping? Well, we could start as early as next week, sir.

Okay. With with that, I I agree with the the business mindset of things with that. I'd uh prefer to I think city manager understands he's heard that the concerns and I trust him to mitigate those things. I wouldn't want to put this all the way out to December. I trust the city manager and the treatment plan operator to work with our attorney also if they have to and mitigate anything. I don't think we I don't think we should wait when we have people wanting to do business with us. Agreed. Agreed. I agree. All right. Well, I'm looking for a motion.

Make a motion to Oh, excuse me. I don't have the thing in front of me here. Go ahead. Make [sighs] I would uh make a motion to authorize the Hanner, city manager to execute execute contracts allowing acceptage disposal at the city Plymouth wastewater treatment plant. I'll second the motion. Council member Bottomley. I. Council member Dell. I. Council member Hornish. I. Vice Mayor Nun. I. Mayor Cranford. I. Thank you. Motion pass. And I want to applaud Cameron for this innovative idea. Definitely.

I appreciate that. But I really got to give that to the Brady and the public works staff. They they really took this on. So that's their their Thank you. Thank you, Brady. Good job. Did I hear a field trip is in the future? A field trip? I'm not going to the poop plant. Why? It's actually pretty interesting. I felt the same way. Yeah. Place that. We'll go. I'll go. It's one of the most fertilized places in Plymouth, that's for sure. Does it smell? Okay. It always smells not doing the job right. [laughter]

So, we'll let you know right. Okay. Uh let's move to uh city manager report.

Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um we uh we had a phenomenal Veterans Day event this last week um on Tuesday. Uh and I wish we would have gotten the word out a little bit more. We had a great turnout, but I've been involved with our Veterans Day events and as a Rot Rotarian and didn't realize that the city kind of put it on. So, it was a a crash effort and with the Rot Rotary and the city and and those guys, Conrad and and that crew really did a phenomenal job. Um, we had some issues with uh we with the popup um lease that we wanted to enter into. Um, those issues came from environmental health. Uh I've met with environmental health um as of late as today and we've worked out our issues. Um so hopefully we'll be moving forward with those um soon. Um I reached out to Arrowhead Bakery which is was was on deck and I'm just waiting to talk with them. [sighs] Uh Mayor Cranford brought by Angel Tree. Um what would you call him? Ma'am,

you stole my thunder. Oh, that's part of my report. I'm sorry. You should have had your report first. It's not on here first. You want me to cover it? Sure, please. Okay.

Um, but we're also uh the sheriff's toy drive is getting ready to kick off um that's put on by the sheriff's foundation. We will have a um collection container here at city hall as as well as um lava dog down the street um for people to bring in their toys. Um applications can be found through the sheriff's office or their school. uh with the recent shutdown, there was some some fear, you know, um with some of our constituents on how they would provide for their families. And um there's a food pantry right now, a temporary food pantry over by the bathrooms in McGee Park. And uh that was a complete community-driven um event by Miss Elizabeth Chapen Penod and her husband. Um I was at the park. uh two days ago and somebody actually mentioned how great it was that the city did it and it was it was a point of pride to be able to put it on the community that actually did it. So that that was absolutely phenomenal. Um we have u former mayor Aklin and her husband that are also getting ready to do something. Um they bought a bunch of supplies that they're planning on passing out or offering to the community for those in need. And then also the probably the toughest one we have right now is that we uh we have to say goodbye to Miss Dana Knight. Um she has taken a job with the city of Jackson. Um she's been here since 2019 for 6 years. And as much as she's a pain in the butt to me,

[laughter] um she is absolutely a phenomenal employee, a phenomenal friend to the staff, and we're going to need to find somebody that's going to keep me in line, that's for sure. Um but she's going to be missed and Jackson is very lucky to have her. And with that, um, we'd like to say thank you as a staff, um, if we can.

Thank you for your service. Yeah, it's a it's a tough loss. Um, but you know, she's setting us up and um, we've worked it out with the city manager of Jackson um, that Dana will be available to come help train her replacement. So, we're pretty encouraged that we'll be in good hands. So, thank you. All right, we're going to move to mayor and council member reports and future agenda items. We'll start with council member Bottomley. I have nothing to report tonight. Thank you, Council Member Dill.

I have nothing to report. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Holar Hornish. Why do you chuckle? It's just a weird name. That's all weird to call you anything but Hogar. That's true. Um, actually, I don't know if that's true or not, but Okay,

since it comes from you, um, we have ongoing things. Zinfendel Ridge Swales um work. I think there's an RFP out there. Correct me if I'm wrong. Uh so we're waiting for that to come back. Um there was a food drive in at the uh Zinfendel Ridge Park and you should be getting boatloads of food from that if it's not already here. And I am concerned with uh the walking foot path. Um uh well Calrans said that they might or would install a ballister or whatever that pylon thing is called so no golf carts come through um driving that on 49 several times a day um and a week I do see thankfully people taking advantage of the foot path whether on foot or on on a bicycle and I still haven't seen that yet. I would love to see that. So, there's no accidents. Um hopefully this is not too expensive to dive into or explore, but I really think with that crossing there, 50 m an hour coming from the 16 region into 49 is kind of ridiculous. Um, I'm wondering I mean if it doesn't take traffic studies and this and that and the other that we can maybe lower that to I don't know I'm open to suggestions 35 hit the 40 mark earlier I don't know something. Thank you

vice mayor. None report. We we're doing agenda items. Yes, both.

Okay. Um, excuse me about that. Um, [clears throat] couple of things. Um, I'd like to see us put on the agenda. Um, recently there's been talk about the use of the flock cameras in the city. And, uh, I followed some of that. So, I had asked about, uh, if the, uh, cameras were permitted and we were doing everything legal. um city manager was able to um provide me with a permit that um for apparently the one on Shannondoa Road. And as I um got to reading through that permit, I realized that that permit uh is not a use permit. This was a construction permit for an installation and it was only for 30 days. Um, so I have concern about um I've done, you know, a little bit of research about this and there's been places that have been sued for uh [snorts] significant amounts for not having uh policies followed on these cameras. So, I have a concern about that. I'd like for a future agenda item. I'd like us to look at uh have the city attorney possibly look into policies [snorts] regarding that um issuing, you know, permits for these cameras or, you know, permission for these cameras. um the city to have a set policy of some sort that uh because apparently some of these um lawsuits that have come out of this have been pretty significant. Um and that uh the placement any cameras is uh I'd like to only be you know the sheriff's office whoever picked those up approved by the council. So I'd like us

to have uh put that on the agenda fairly soon if these cameras are up. Um, and I'm not opposing the cameras being [snorts] up in any way. I'm um I'm wanting to make sure that there's a proper use permit and everything's done legal on it and to cover our own. And I think we should also talk about it for future sense, right, as well to have something in place. Yeah. Yeah. I'm talking about city policy. Yeah. Um, regarding those because we actually apparently have queue up. Um, I was just right now just addressing the one here on Shannondoora Road

and I know we we do have one um out at Zimpendelle and I'm in no way there's two there's two in ZR coming and going in on the Parkway.

Okay. And I understand they've done some good and like I said, I'm not opposed to the camera. I'm wanting to make sure that there's a policy in place and [snorts] I'm concerned who's um who's able to view this because my understanding is like the one in ZR um people that are not law enforcement are able to view that and yeah so um I have an account set up with Flock and I can log on and see my license plates coming and going with a time stamp and it's literally my license plate. There's there's nothing else. Um there's there's no read of faces or any of that sort, but I can see my own plates coming and going.

Sorry to interrupt, but I don't think we want to get into a discussion about this. We just want to if we want to add it to the agenda, we can make that request. Um cuz we can't really discuss it because it's not on the agenda. So yeah, I'd like to do that fairly soon. Like I said, the one um as [clears throat] far as like regarding this one on Shannonoa, unless another permit exists somewhere I don't know about um then that was never approved by the council or there's any type of permit or instructions for how it could be used. So I think we need to address it pretty quickly. Um so I'd like to maybe have something together by the next regular meeting. Okay. Um, anything else?

Not tonight.

Okay. Um, I'll try to minimize mine, but I kind of do have a list. Sorry about that. Uh, so for mayor report, first I'd like to thank Supervisor Anto for being here tonight. It's nice to see you here. Um, uh, some really cool stuff happened since the last meeting. So, Veterans Park, I went by and visited the morning that they were getting together to have all the kids come and plant. I went I went by there around 7:45 in the morning and thanked those that were there to help and and work. And I just want to give a shout out to Plymouth Elementary and the city staff and the Rotary and everybody's been working on ro uh the Veterans Park. It's amazing. Um and then I attended coffee with the city manager on 10:31 and we had one uh citizen show up to to chat with us and hang out and we brainstormed some really cool ideas and he had a lot of feedback for us and it was a great great coffee session. So, I really encourage anybody who wants to have a casual conversation with the city manager and a council member. I think Holar's up next is that this Friday, so it's tomorrow morning, um to to attend that. I think it's 8 to 9:30. Okay. And then, um Cameron and I, same morning that I stopped by the Veterans Park, we made it to KVGC in the morning to kind of talk about some of the stuff that was going on in Plymouth. That was pretty cool. Um, so we have that angel tree. So for those who aren't familiar with angel tree, this is something that Nexus Youth and Family Services does every year. And they put trees in the community with uh angels on them that have kiddo information written on them for kiddos,

underprivileged kids in in the Amadore County. and there's names and ages and toys and things they've requested for Christmas. I'm pleased to say that the city hall is going to host one of those trees and I've delivered the angels tonight to the city manager. So once they get their Christmas tree up, uh they'll hang those up and you can come in to city hall and pick up a angel and then you buy the gift. don't wrap it and you can drop it off uh in Jackson at Nexus or here at the city hall. I'll come by and pick it up for you. Um just long as it's an unwrapped and whatever's on that list. Um so that's a that's a pretty cool thing that the city's participating in. Um and then yeah, Veterans Day event was awesome. Um most of us attended that. Uh, oh, reminder, Robin Shawl, the comedian, will be here next Wednesday. Supervisor Onetto, I'm counting on you to show up in a cowboy hat with your son. So, um, and that'll be at 5:00. We're doing a special meeting. Our hope is to have it kind of out front of city hall versus in here at the dis. But if it's too cold or the weather's too inclement, then we'll do it in here. Um, and we are going to be giving a seat key to the city and it's it's part of a whole thing that we've just explained in the past council meeting. Um, so we're excited about that. So that's November 19th at 5:00 p.m. if you want to come to city hall and support that endeavor. Um, we're hoping for some great publicity. I listened to her podcast this morning. She talked about our town and she talked about the fact that she'll be staying

here and um some of the fun things that we have planned for her. So, we're hoping for good things out of that. Uh okay, Acra, I had a meeting I I attended the board meeting for Acra yesterday. Acra is dissolving. In order for ACA to dissolve, uh, each city essentially needs to withdraw from ACRA. However, we can't just withdraw from ACRA. We have to come together as a council vote that we are no longer going to participate in ACRA. However, I will continue to be part of the board. If we just send a letter and withdraw, that removes me from the board and then I can't help with dissolving. It's it's a whole timing issue, right? So, we need to have it added as an agenda item to discuss not continuing with Acura. And as far as I know, we have not even made our payment to Acura for the year um based on their accounting. So, that's something we might want to double check. Um, so we need to have that. That needs to be on our December item because the supervisor's meeting is December 16th and there's they're depending on us making decisions each city bringing back decisions in order for them to make decisions. Does that make sense? Okay, we can talk more about it later. Um, so that's the scoop with ACRA. So, it's an agenda item plus a report uh for future agenda items. Um I'd like to have the employee policy on hiring uh timelines and nepotism. We haven't

really we kind of talked about that before and we never really added it to an agenda item for a policy. You you have something for me on that Cameron? Um, BBK is looking into that and revising and updating our policies right now. Um, she just came back to me yesterday and asked for some more follow-up documents that we're working on putting together for So, it's coming. Yes, ma'am.

Okay, cool. So, scratch that. Um, I want to add to an agenda having some sort of workshop for the community or town hall regarding the casino. Uh there's a lot of open-ended unanswered questions and so um I think since it's been 20 plus years since we had a vote in the town and and had a discussion on casino related things, it's time to do that again. So I would like to to do that. Um, and then I also would like to put a a agenda item on considering adding the ad hoc committee for the tribe back. Um, I think, you know, initially my desire to remove that item or to remove the ad hoc committee was based on a lack of transparency. Um, and I am actually finding the opposite to be true. I think we need to have somebody on council actively participating in that and reporting back. So, um, you know, you win some, you lose some. You try things and what works works and what doesn't doesn't. So, there's not public comment. John,

December 6, the home tour. December 6, what? The home tour. Oh, the home tour. Thank you. Jamie did come to the last meeting and talk about that. But, um, yes, December 6 is the holiday home tour for the, uh, here in Plymouth. Rotary is putting that on. Okay. I think I've exhausted my time for I have a question both. Oh, yeah. And the Christmas market is the same day from 11:00 a.m. to 400 p.m. I didn't realize that all fell on the same day. You can make a whole Christmasy day out of it. A whole Christmasy day after Christmas market

and do the home tour. The holiday home tour. Yep. That is December 6th, Saturday. And you can get tickets for the holiday home tour online at is it Amodore Holiday Home Tour? Does anyone know the website name? If you go to pfrotary.com, you can get the tickets there. Go ahead.

I just wanted to ask one. Um, some time ago, we'd asked to have the old Sacramento road issue put on the agenda and um, this goes back quite a ways and then it was brought up again about when it would be on the agenda. Um, I'd like to know where that is. At this point, I would like to have the discussion fairly soon, especially in light of um the vote we've taken tonight on um activity at the treatment plant. Um, and perhaps that night, uh, Supervisor Onetto could be here for that, too, because it there seems to be some sort of conflict of whether we we're really responsible for the road or just up to the edge of the road. and um that needs to get addressed pretty soon. I get calls from people quite a bit about the condition of the road down there.

We're still actively looking at that. We had a staff meeting about that about a week ago. Yeah, I know in the the past we've waited because you were working on it and uh yeah, if that's something we can move forward, it it gets asked about a lot and it's been quite a while. It's been dragging on. So,

okay. Anyone else? I think that wraps us up. Um, we are going to move to close session. Before we do that, is anyone have public com I have Stephanie's written down she's got public comment for 10.1 and 10.2. I'm just going to condense those together. Is that okay with you, Stephanie? Of course, you would ask that. trickery. [laughter] [clears throat] Stephanie Moreno, and I'm sorry, still got um I I just wanted to to say about something you just said if I could, Mayor. Um anything that's on the agenda, you have to allow public comment. So, if John wants to comment on mayor and council members reports, he has the right to do that.

You're correct. Yes. Okay. Um I mean you could say he has to do it before everyone talks but then it wouldn't make much sense. It's a mute point when in the past when somebody has asked to do so we have allowed that.

Okay. Thank you. Um so close session. Um I'm really concerned about 10.1 the way it's on the agenda. Um, I looked at this and I've been in use, you know, working with the Brown Act for many decades and you cannot use this title unless you're using it to negotiate with your existing staff or your existing union. And Cameron has told me this is not about him. He has not asked for a raise cuz that's what I posted. This means that he's looking for additional compensation. So, I think number one, you can't talk about the recruitment if that's what you're planning on doing under this item and the city attorney should know that. I think it's unfair to Cameron to put it on here to make it look like he has asked for compensation. It's unfair and I edited my post to clarify that, but I just want to point that out. This is only to allow you to negotiate with the existing city manager, which is Cameron. Um, secondly, on the conference with legal counsel, you guys have had litigation, potential litigation claims on the agenda almost every meeting since you came on.

Oh, we know, right? There's been no reports out. So, is all the p all the pending litigation still pending or h are you guys not reporting out the results of the ones that have been settled? Because you're required as soon as it's done to report that out to the public and that's not happening. So, I just wanted to make that point as well. Yep. We know. Thank you.

Anyone else public comment on 10.1 or 10.2? And I didn't mean that. Oh, we know snarky Stephanie. Just so you know, it's for I'm depending on it. [laughter] Okay. Rosemary Marino Moody. What I said inquiry minds want to know.

I know. Okay. My concern was with 10.1. I mean, she just said some stuff that I didn't realize, but I still just want to make a a point that I was curious what it was. I was hoping that they weren't negotiating um salary and benefits for the interim city manager given he's been here less than 3 months and also being that we haven't had a financial update um in a while. So that was my concern with that. Thank you.

The uh compensation um for the interim position was uh set and it's for as long as the interim position is. So there's no negotiating that until a person's hired fully. We won't be changing compensation. Yeah. I I I was told night and as I read it, I could see where people got that impression. Um so I just want to make that clarification. Okay.

Okay. Um let's I I don't even know what it's about, so I can't speak to anything. So, um we're going to go into close session and uh we'll report out after that and that's it. 8:43 p.m. Thank you guys.

Is it still muted? Uhoh. Okay. Are are we muted though? No, we're good. Okay. Um, reporting out from close session at 9:38, a claim by Curtis Canwell against the city of Plymouth has been settled for $10,000. [snorts] Uh, no other reportable action taken. This meeting is adjourned at 9:38 p.m.