City Council - Regular Meeting

Hello, and thank you everyone for being here tonight for the Plymouth City Council meeting of Thursday, July 9th, 2026. If we can get a roll call.

Council Member Bottomley? Here. Council Member Cranford? Absent. Council Member Dill? Here. Vice Mayor Hornish?

Here.

Mayor Nunn?

Here.

Thank you. We have a quorum.

All right. Can we get the Pledge of Allegiance?

All right, a couple, real quick before we get started, a couple statements.

I just want to let everybody know, due to work situation, I'm going to have to leave here, preferably by 8.30, and we have a lot on our agenda. So we are going to go to public comment. Just ask people to keep it to three minutes. We have a lot on the agenda tonight and about two hours for me. So at this time, I'm going to go to you, if I can find them, my public comment cards. We have, huh? We have Raymond. Raymond Esty.

Yeah, you do. Hey, good evening, everybody. I'm Raymond Esty, a lifetime resident of Plymouth. I live up in Hogsview. As you know, on 4th of July, we had a nice fire right up next to the subdivision. As you may also know, we only have one way in and one way out of that subdivision. That's also present in Zippendale Ridge and also going into Wheeler Way. You know, we were fortunate this time around. Fire didn't spread into the neighborhood, but there's been other fires. There's house fire in there. When the police and the firemen are staged in Wheeler Way going up there, it is blocked off. And I really highly recommend that you guys start looking into this before this becomes a loss of life situation. You know, I'm not up here to aggrandize this, but this needs to be fixed. These subdivisions should have never went in with one way in, one way out. And I know this city's strapped for money. I don't know what the solution is, but I wanted to get up here and express concern around this. It's a big issue.

Mm-hmm.

What I tell you is, I appreciate you coming in. The problem is, like you say, they should have never been allowed. One way in, one way out. Three ways in town. There are several others, like Burke Ranch and other places, one way in, one way out. And the issue right now is it would be great to extend Miller Way. And it comes to money. I think that property went for sale for about a million and a half dollars. And that's just the beginning. Then you're probably a couple million dollars to design a road and build it. And so down the road, hopefully that happens. I don't know why it's taken 30 some years, but yeah, there needs to be.

road all the way through that would be great well you can also push when wheeler comes in yeah that dead ends there you can push that join that in that gives wheeler and out it doesn't give us a second out but it does give them a second out caution that problem is so steep right there on miller yeah there'd have to be some grading and things like that logically to me it would be it would be smart to just drop down miller the other way down through the miller ranch yeah but i think it's shorter and there were plans to extend it was either golden i think uh over to landrum but uh i think that there's some things in the way now that would impede us from being able to do that it's a shorter shorter distance uh city owns some of the property that's already there and you believe there's already an easement that comes that shoots out right behind the park right there i don't

I don't know. I don't believe it's an easement, but it could be. I think the problem with extending through Golden Way is that the property owners that are there now do not want to give up their property. And I could tell you, honestly, it'd be nice to fix this, but I don't believe in eminent domain.

Well, having had my property taken from me for the city's orphan through eminent domain, I think you guys would probably do eminent domain for the benefit of the whole...

Well, thank you for coming around. All right. We have Mike Spinetta. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah.

Good evening, Rob Withrow, Fire Chief, Amador Fire. I just wanted to report out on a couple things, and I'll keep it brief and open it up for any questions. I just wanted to give kudos to our City Manager, Cameron, for the 4th of July event. I've been involved in a few of those now, and I think From my perspective, this was probably the smoothest, great communication. Didn't have a lot of the same issues we've had in years past. And I just credit Cameron with that. So thank you. It was a pleasure working with you. As you know, we staffed up quite a bit of equipment for the city on that night. And no extra charge for that. That's just part of our agreement. And I'm very happy with how that turned out. Next, Mayor Nunn, I believe, requested that we report out our call volume from Station 122, which is the fire station here in Plymouth. So I'm going to report for last month. Obviously, we're still in July. 33 total calls, 16 of those within the city limits of Plymouth. And then lastly, the Landrum fire. I know there's a lot of rumors and questions and things as far as the cause goes to that fire. The cause has been determined to be equipment use. We're not completely done with our fire report yet, but we're close enough that I'm comfortable releasing that info. We've been getting pressure from the media, but I felt it most appropriate to report that out to this audience. Uh, body 1st, before we put out a press release, et cetera. So here's what happens from here. We'll do our complete our investigation. Our report essentially the investigations over. We'll compile that documentation that will get submitted to the county district attorney. And then from there, it's really up to this attorney in terms of any charges, et cetera. All in all, the fire went very well. We had a lot of resources here, a lot of help. Sutter Creek Fire, Ione Fire, Cal Fire, everybody worked and coordinated very well. My assignment happened to be up in Hawkesview. I was coming from my home in Jackson when I heard the dispatch. Our battalion chief was here, was in command of the fire. So I decided to go to the head of the fire and be up in Hawkesview Estates, and I assumed what we call a structure group as a line assignment there and start coordinating those resources. Everybody I dealt with up there was very cooperative. They understood the evacuations. Things went off pretty good. The only hiccup we really had, with the exception of some of those evacuation challenges, and I support what this man says, it is a challenge. We're staging resources of Miller Way and 49, and then we're trying to get people out of those homes. That becomes a problem. But I also understand it's not... It's not super easy to put a road in. I get that. And truly, I'll shut up about it in just a minute. I agree. That subdivision should not have been approved with just one way in and one way out. None of them should if we can avoid it. Anyhow, the only hiccup we really had on the Landrum fire was we had a drone in the air. We had to call off a C-130 from making a drop. Fortunately, it wasn't detrimental to the fire, but I can't stress enough how valuable that resource is. CAL FIRE now has a C-130 air taker It's essentially like four of the smaller air tankers coming out of McClellan. That sounds like a long ways away, but in air miles, that's nothing. And if we can utilize that, I really think that's a game changer in terms of initial attack capabilities. And having to wave that off because of a drone, it could have been tragic. So, yeah. That's what I have there. I don't know where I'm at on my three minutes, but are there any questions for me?

Go ahead. I think the public wants to hear. The one thing I'll say, number one, thank you for the 4th of July event. I talked to some of your people in the street. You bet. And they told me you had over 22 personnel out there and didn't charge us anymore. So we appreciate that. You bet. No problem. Thank you. That was amazing, the job you did on that. One question I would bring up. is the fire burned in what we call fire-like flashy fuels. It went pretty fast up that hill when it got to the base of that hill. In the past, we've brought this up, we've talked about it, and it hasn't happened, and it should, but have you ever considered, or would you be willing... To bring forward to the city council, say, a vegetation management plan. Absolutely. Like some of the other cities have. Yes. You know, Sutter Creek, Jackson, I own.

Yes.

And would you be willing or interested in the future to do, say, a burnout, you know, training burns or whatever? Yep. Because I was looking at that when we got out there on the fire. I was looking up there. I'm like. That whole area could already been burned out if we had a policy in place.

I completely agree. And I think especially in that fuel model to mitigate that threat is pretty straightforward. That's one evening of burning and we may not have even had to evacuate those homes. But the challenge is going to be where we're going to need support is getting those landowners to agree to that with us. Right. And understanding that we're taking on the liability, all that stuff. We understand the responsibility that comes with it, but we're going to be on their property. We are going to be putting fire on the ground, but in a controlled manner, a safe manner. But, yeah, I completely agree with you.

Well, that's where I talk about, you know, what the other cities have in place is, you know, I know some of it's like grass has to be under four inches in the city or whatever. They have to put in a dozer line and all that stuff. So most of the larger landowners generally tend to go for it because it's a lot cheaper to have the fire department come burn it than it is to hire somebody with a bulldozer or pay somebody to weed it.

Yeah, and frankly, I would love it for our training as well. We've been burning in Sutter Creek the last few weeks, and it's been invaluable training for us. But, yeah, I totally support that.

So if one of those other cities has a plan that you think is good and works, you could possibly get a copy of that ordinance or that plan. bring it to our city manager, and for us to put on the agenda, approved quite possibly, or we could ask those other cities.

Yeah, there's a couple things we have to work out, but I think it's totally doable.

So we don't have this on the agenda, so I think we need to kind of move on from this topic, but we can bring... Well, it's interesting. Everybody's worried about it right now.

We've gotten the direction.

I support that, though. We can bring that forward in the future. Okay.

Any questions for me regarding the Landrum fire or any of that? Okay. Thank you very much.

Thank you for the awesome job on it. Is anyone else having trouble? Justin? Robert? Ashley, can you hear me? Yeah. I'm sorry if you're not, sir. I do apologize. Okay, next we have Mike Spinetta.

Hi there, guys. For the past 11 years, I've gathered signatures and suggestions door to door, poured through maps and agendas back to the 90s, and broadcast my presentations to Council online and even been screened by a Council member and their spouse on record. That was pretty cool. None of that matters. What matters is now. Yesterday, I spent six and a half hours at the county offices and other Jackson locations getting items laid out to address the Landrum fire. And I want to kind of use the idea of the house fire two years ago on Miller and Golden, too, to kind of combine the two things and maybe come up with some solutions. Both times, while professional agencies worked in tandem, Miller Way was reasonably closed to traffic. And, you know, there's solutions to that. And one thing I was kind of disappointed in is that three years ago, someone using an account on Facebook with the identity of Councilman Nunn posted a personal opinion on the pickle page in the form of a vote supporting something that said, Uh, the hawks view walking trail for access is not the city's responsibility. Uh, they bought there knowing there was no access and there was another vote there too. That said that, you know, it's kind of disappointing and I, you know, so enough about that. Let's move on instead of having literary roadblocks. Um. What if an idea we could do that would be really easy? Get a hydrant on the north side where we had one on the south side. And I don't know the layout, guys. I didn't go and memorize it. But the hose was crossing during the house fire two years ago. Could be easy to dig one and put one on the other side and at the same time widen the road and it's already really wide. It's a great road and you wouldn't have to get too much more to put an emergency redundant lane in there. And, you know, let's get a little bit of this side, a little bit of that side, whatever works. Get rid of the grease bushes going up too, if you could ask the owner of that, that would be great. So I spent the morning of July 4th cutting down grease bushes. And a couple days before that, I, you know, weeded my neighbor's yard. So, you know, we're smart enough to do stuff. You guys can see what's wrong on the way up too. Um... I think that we could also have a nice big, you know, kind of like Hercules and other towns in the Bay Area do this, where they just have these ground-up fields around their cities. And it's great. You know, we could have that on the whole west side that burns. And there's usually a staging area there, some kind of bulldozed area. And I don't know if it was there. Could I please have an extra minute? 30 seconds. Okay, great. um you know there's the idea of getting prisks property there and we could have an emergency access route there i also found a map from 1996 where a council um decided to uh decided that the map showing the dedication of the road of Golden Way attaching to Landrum was rejected. That kind of settles that thing. So I have that right over there in a pile for you guys so you can see it. And so, you know, council rejected it then. Let's get something this time. Even just the walking path, making it easier with rock, an emergency path. Anyway, that's all great. I also talked to the sheriff and chief about offering a cash reward and I'll give someone cash if they do the right thing, call in secret witness or the sheriff's non-emergency number and get that SOB that had the drone up. And I hope they're listening to the meeting because a lot of us worked on that on the sand fire. A lot of us photographers worked on that and we found the guy in Southern California. And that's that precedent for the nation on drones. Anyway, also in El Dorado Hills at CBS, they have a sign posted that says, mow your weeds. And they do that on other properties. So that's another thing.

Thank you. We have Ron Antone. No, this is on the farmer market one. Yeah, farmer's market. Sorry. Okay. Do we have anybody online or anyone else in the audience that would like to speak on this matter or Matters not on the agenda.

I saw that the farmer's market for Plymouth was on the agenda this evening.

That's going to be on the agenda. If you want to talk just on that, you get a chance to talk on that, too. This is for matters not on the agenda. I messed up. I didn't see that that's what your speaker car was about. But you can talk about it now or you can talk about it when we actually do it. Up to you. I better talk about it as we bring that agenda item up.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

That was... My mistake. Anybody else in the audience wants to speak or anybody online? All right. So this time we're going to close public comment and we're going to move on to five consent calendar.

Mayor Nunn, you need to approve the agenda.

It's on the number two.

Oh.

I thought that was on the consent calendar. Okay. Item two, approval of city council regular meeting agenda, July 9th, 2026. So moved.

I'll second it. Council member Bottomley. Aye. Council member Dell. Aye. Vice mayor Hornish.

Aye.

Mayor Nunn.

Aye.

Thank you. Motion passes.

Okay. Consent calendar. Item five. Aye. The motion to approve that has been pulled.

I'll make a motion to approve the consent calendar.

And state of that.

I'll second the motion. Councilmember bodily. I councilmember Dell I vice mayor Hornish I may or not I thank you motion passes.

Item 6.1, public hearing and adopt resolution 2026-14, resolution of city council of Plymouth, authorizing the placement of unpaid delinquent sewer service and water tax bills on the 2026-27 Amador County property tax rule. City manager.

The mission air. As has been done on an annual basis, the city of Plymouth City Council will conduct a public hearing to consider all objections or protest if any regarding properties listed with delinquent water and sewer service accounts. The property subject to this are listed on the attached resolution. Pursuant to chapter 13.25 collection, a tax will deploy with the municipal code requires the City Council to hold a public hearing And upon conclusion of the hearing, Council will adopt, revise, change and reduce or modify any charge or overrule any and all objections and shall make its termination upon each charge as described in the result shall be final. Chapter 13.24 requires all sewer and water bills to be billed and collected as one item. The city clerk will then take the appropriate action to have the approved charges placed on the Amador County property tax roll by the Amador County tax collector. A public hearing notice was duly published in the Amador County adjudicated paper and also posted in the designated locations around the city of Plymouth. The county requires an active signed resolution no later than August 10th, 2026 in order to place the lien on the listed APN numbers as allowed by state and local law. Fiscal impact, potentially recovery in approximately $178,521, the minus cost of having the county tax collector administer the service, which shall not exceed 1% of all monies collected. So our recommendation is to adopt Resolution 2026, TAC 14, authorizing the placement of unpaid delinquent sewer service and water bills on properties listed herein upon the 2026-27 Amarillo County property tax rule. Thank you.

All right. Open a public comment. Any public comment on this? Yes, sir.

Come up. Sir, if you want to make a public comment, you got to come up here.

I couldn't hear you. I didn't actually hear you. So you'd have to come to the podium if you want to make a public comment. You push the button so the red light comes on. If you can state your name.

Revenue for Plymouth?

No. No. We're talking about delinquent tax bill.

For Plymouth? We're just talking about parcels that have delinquent sewer or water bills.

Well, what happened to the 13 parcels that were fee simple that now are Acorn Ridge?

I don't believe they had water or sewer bills on that. I don't know. That's not before the council. All right. Anyone else? Public comment? Now we're going to close public comment. Council discussion?

I have nothing.

The only question I have is how did a couple of these get to the amount they got to you?

So every time they're delinquent, it's a 10% penalty on that bill. So if it's 10% this month, it's 10% on that 10% the next month. And this gentleman that has very high amounts actually reached out to me the other day to see if we could work with him. And so we're just exploring those options now. But we're finally in contact with him.

Okay. Sounds good. So I have nothing else. Anyone like to make a motion?

Make a motion to approve or rather adopt resolution 2026-14 authorizing the placement of unpaid delinquent sewer and service and water bills on properties.

I'll second the motion. Council Member Bottomley? Aye. Council Member Dell? Aye. Vice Mayor Hornish?

Aye.

Mayor Nunn?

Aye.

Thank you. Motion passes.

6.2. Public hearing and reporting on City of Plymouth vacancies, recruitment and retention efforts.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. In accordance with AB 2561, which went into effect on January 1st, 2025, the City of Plymouth must hold a required public hearing annually per fiscal year on vacancies of the City. Recruitment and retention efforts in identifying any issues and any necessary changes to the City's policies, procedures and recruitment. The city will present the information to that effect at tonight's meeting. Except for staff time, there is no fiscal impact, and staff recommends council conduct the public hearing and receive the presentation.

Okay. Any public comment about this? Oh, alright.

This is the legislative intent for AB 2561. As we mentioned, it went into effect January 1, 2025, and public employers are required to disclose the status of vacancies and recruitment retention efforts. Long-term or position-specific vacancies in local government can be a problem in the public sector, affecting occupations across wage levels and educational requirements. High vacancies impact public service delivery and can impact other workers. And AB2561 is designed to foster transparency about the number of and types of vacancies the city is experiencing and how the city conducts recruitments and staff efforts to address them. Some of the things we've done is we targeted job ads published in newspapers in Amador County and the surrounding areas. We've engaged with the community via our city website and utilizing social media for advertising. We're posting job vacancies on our bulletin board at the post office and the library. We have employee recognition efforts, employee team building meetings, and staff training and development. I think we've come a long way in the last about 10, 11 months in building staff here, and it's been a lot of fun. We have 10 full-time positions, total authorized. We have a number of vacancies right now. It's supposed to be two. I don't know why it's... three up there for a percentage of 20%.

Yeah, it's two in our packet.

Yeah, I know. For some reason, the slide didn't get updated. I apologize. And also additionally, what I added to the slide is that our chief plan operator is currently being filled by a contractor. That's one of our vacancies. And the other vacancy is a posting for the recently unfrozen maintenance worker one position, which closes on July 19th. And we've gotten a ton of, or not a ton, but a good amount of applications for that position. And that'll be it. Thank you.

Thank you. Anyone like to make public comment on this matter?

Rosemary.

Rosemary Marino Moody Plymouth. Um, my question is, um, That the chief plant operator is currently filled by contractor. Is that going to be a long term situation? And if so, is that contract going to come to the council for approval? Because at some point I would think it would get over your spending limit. So, I'm curious about what we're doing in that those terms.

We have a good relationship with our contractor right now, but it will be coming to the council because it will be over my limit. So probably at our next meeting, that will be coming through.

Anyone else for public comment? No one online? Okay, this time we'll close public comment. And council members?

Anything?

Nothing nothing from me.

Cameron is the contractor. Which ways are going to be less expensive for us as a city to staff it ourselves in order to have the contractor. The contractor. Okay benefits of having it being our own staff member.

Is that we have somebody here all the time, but the plant doesn't require somebody out there all day, every day. So can they be part-time? They could be part-time. That's essentially what the contractor is. It's his plant. He works with the plant. He guides our public works guys on what needs to be done with the plant. David, our public works superintendent, has been going through the OIT training to manage the plant more thoroughly. But The cost benefit wasn't in the plus for us when we had a full-time operator.

Do you think it can be a position that is not full-time for a staff member? Would somebody agree to that?

Possibly. It was discussed with this contractor. We decided to go this route. He's responsible for his own insurance and all that stuff. Thank you.

I have nothing. Can we get a motion?

No action needed on this one.

No action needed. Okay. No action needed. I'm sorry. All right. 7.2, Amador County Community Wildfire Protection Plan. City Manager? Oh, what?

I have it down to 7.2. So 7.2 is the wildfire plan. However, we still need to address 7.1. And since it was on the agenda, probably take public comment, even though we're not going to entertain it. Oh, okay.

I pulled it out of my packet to make it more manageable because my packet was 300 and some pages. So I missed it. I apologize.

So wait, are we pulling 7.1?

Yes, we're going to pull 7.1 until I believe the meeting of August 13th. Thank you.

As Cameron said, we should still take public comment on it since it was on the agenda in case somebody showed up.

Yeah, if you want public comment on item 7.1, the city budget.

Rosemary, Marino, Moody, Plymouth. I do have some concerns regarding the breakdown of the salaries that I really think the council needs to look at because the city manager, 50% of his wage is going to be charged to the water fund and the wastewater fund, which I think is extremely high for a city manager that's overseeing a city. I mean, that says he's down there 50% of the time. Is he working at the plant? I mean, I don't understand that. And then you look at the public works superintendent, and it's 100% in the general fund, but there's none for water and sewer. So that does not make sense to me, because in the past, that superintendent oversaw the water and sewer also. So I can see salary being allocated towards that for the superintendent, but I don't see 50% of his time spent on water and sewer. If the city's being run correctly, he shouldn't be spending that much time on water and sewer.

Thank you. Anyone else? Is there a direct correlation between time spent on versus where the budget comes out of?

yeah we did lower my you know my time for the for the water service there's a lot of time like our the plant is our biggest component of the city and there's a lot of time that goes into it despite what people think um but i did lower my time but i did email our financial director regarding the the superintendent yeah um because i noticed that as well okay thank you okay anyone else for public comment

Okay. Hearing and seeing nothing, I'm going to close public comment. And obviously we're holding discussion until August 13th. So we'll move on. Item 7.2.

Mr. Mayor, this is the Amarillo County Community Wildfire Protection Plan that we presented last time. You wanted to go through a little bit more. There were some changes that were made as far as titles and things like that. Yes.

I have had a chance. I did read through it and I saw the changes that were made and I'm good with it. Um, at this time, I guess let's open it for public comment. If anyone has a public comment on this here and seeing no one close that council discussion, any council discussion on it?

No, no, nothing.

Okay. Look for motion.

I'll make a motion to approve.

Adopt, I think. Adopt. Is it adopt?

The Amador County Community Wildfire Protection Plan.

I'll second the motion.

Council Member Bottomley? Aye. Council Member Dill? Aye. Vice Mayor Hornish?

Aye.

Mayor Nunn?

Aye.

Thank you. Motion passes.

7.3. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

This is, I apologize to cut you off. I'll read the subject. It's the approval of equipment upgrades to improve wastewater disinfection and regulatory compliance at the city's wastewater treatment plant. The city of Plymouth's wastewater treatment plant disinfects treated wastewater by injecting chlorine into the pipeline between the treatment pond and the final stage pond prior to discharge. Under the current configuration, chlorine is based solely on wastewater flow before entering the final pond where compliance bacteriological samples are collected. While this process has served the city for many years, it has become increasingly apparent that the existing disinfection system no longer provides the level of process control necessary to consistently achieve reliable treatment performance. The city has experienced challenges consistently meeting bacteriological permit requirements for an extended period of time and these challenges existed prior to the city's acceptance of outside septic hauled waste. Although plant operators have diligently managed this treatment process, the current system does not ensure a thorough mixing of chlorine throughout the treated wastewater or verify that an adequate chlorine residual is maintained before discharge. As a result, operators must make adjustments without continuous feedback regarding the effectiveness of the disinfection process. Staff has evaluated the treatment process and determined that modernization of the city's disinfection system will significantly improve reliability and process control. The proposed project includes the installation of an inline static mixer, an online chlorine residual analyzer, and an automated programmable logic controller dosing controls. The inline static mixer will thoroughly blend chlorine throughout the treated wastewater, while the online analyzer will continuously monitor chlorine residual levels in real time. Automated controls will then adjust chlorine feeds rates as needed to maintain the desired residual, creating a more consistent and efficient disinfection process. These improvements are expected to significantly enhance the city's ability to consistently meet bacteriological permit requirements while improving overall treatment reliability, optimizing chemical usage, and reducing operational variability. The project represents a proactive investment in critical wastewater infrastructure that will provide operators with greater process control, improve long-term operational efficiency, and strengthen the city's ability to maintain compliance with state regulatory requirements. The total cost of the proposed improvements is $54,397, as outlined in the proposal submitted by Telstar. And you will notice there is only one quote for this, and the reason for that is that Telstar has a lot of their infrastructure is embedded in our system, so this is kind of a plug and play for them to be able to add it. But if the council would like, we can get more. The proposed action is exempt from CEQA, but the total cost for the purchase and installation of the proposed equipment is $54,397. Funding for this project will be provided through the Wastewater Treatment Plant Enterprise Fund. No general fund resources are required. Our recommendation is that the City Council review, discuss, and approve the purchase and installation of the inline static mixer, online chlorine residual analyzer, and the automated chlorine dosing control for the city's wastewater treatment plant in the amount of $54,397. And we do have our chief plant operator here as well as our public works superintendent to answer the technical questions for you. Thank you.

Thank you. We'll open to public comment. Sure. Oh, no, I was going to on the chief. Oh, no. Oh, OK. Well, go ahead.

And yeah, you have a great presentation. Yeah. Go ahead and speak first. And so people might have questions about what you ask. OK. Good evening, council members and city of Plymouth. My name is Justin Granados. I'm with AMS. We are your contracted service right now. And we currently serve as I currently serve as your interim chief plan operator. I'm here tonight presenting with David, your head of public works. David's doing an amazing job. He's very enthused about everything going on out there and wants to learn. And it's been a great help in finding things and trying to make improvements. So what's been going on is... Over the years, I think it's been discussed in the past how much chlorine usage and the cost of it. I think it was upwards of $50,000 a year. Ricky, you're in here? That sounds right, yeah. And the reason for that is this little sample bottle right here. We take one of these once a week, and we are trying to get... The purpose of this is to show that there is no longer bacteria in the water when it's being discharged in the reservoir. And so... What has happened in the past is operators trying their best to get a non-detect to be able to report to the state compliance board and say, hey, you know, our water is good. They've had to turn on the chlorine pumps and just charge the line for hours and hours, and that's why the cost of the chlorine, you know, was as high as it was. So we're proposing, and we'll give an example, that if you want to pour a packet into one of the chlorinated waters right there, we decided to bring a little presentation to give a little visual of it. So as it's going in there, I don't know if you, I'm sure you can see it, Councilmember. Go ahead and pour another one in there, Dave. We'll make it, if you can see in the, it's turning pink, right? And so say that's our line right there. Our line currently is flow-based chlorine dosed. So that means when it turns on, the pump turns on and tries to keep up with the speed of the pump, of course, right? And so what's happening is it's shooting down this line and the thought was when they were building the plant that it would have enough contact time going down that pipeline to the end reservoir, right, and disinfect everything. But as you can see in there, it's very cloudy, and there's still spots of that that don't have chlorine in it, right? And so when it's going through that pipeline, we have that bacteria still in there and discharging into the reservoir. So, David, if you want to put a lid on top of that, we can just put a lid on top of that one, David. So what we're proposing, David's arm is going to act as a static mixer. So now we're having it communicate, and David, shake it up. So now it's been static mixed. So now you see chlorine is in every bit of that jar. It's now disinfecting the bacteria right there when it's coming into the pipeline from our last pond. And now it's making its way down the pipeline, which is giving it more contact time. covered in chlorine instead of having to run it for hours and hours and spend a lot. If we're spending upwards of $50,000 a year, we're looking at $54,000 to put a static mixer in there. As Cameron said, using contractors that are familiar with the plant, the first thing I do when I go to different plants that I'm contracting with is I open their cabinets up. I say, okay, let's look at schematics. I say, This contractor, this contractor, and then I start calling contractors and say, hey, what do you know about this place? They come out, and that's kind of where we went with this. We called a con. They have Telstar books everywhere in there. We called them out. We said, this is what we're dealing with here. They said, yep, we can take that. We can connect it to your PLC and SCADA system. I was going to read a bunch of stuff, but like I said, Cameron covered it all, so save me from reading tonight. It'll connect with all the PLC and SCADA system already put in place there. Also saving some money there, and we'll have a new chlorine analyzer put on the wall, which will communicate with that static mixer saying, hey, the dose isn't enough. Pick it up. Let's make sure we're getting a residual of, say, it's 2.5. Yeah, so... We're here tonight to see if you guys approve of this project, to try to long-term savings and help us with compliance issues. Because if you think about it, when we're dosing as much as we are to get this one sample and using all that chlorine, that's great, right? We got a non-detect now. We can report that to the state. But what's happening the six other times a day, it turns on and it's going to that reservoir and we're not dosing it the way we were when we were taking the sample. We're getting non-compliant water hitting that reservoir and then being sprayed in the fields.

I'll wait for questions.

Sir, we're not speaking. Everybody else online or it's being recorded would love to hear you, what you have to say. So just come on up. Thank you. After public comment, sir, we'll...

There is a wastewater treatment... Sir, could you give us your name, please?

Thank you.

My name is John Pulicci. I'm a mechanical engineer with an MBA, and I've worked on almost every wastewater treatment plant in the country. You might as well throw, I would want to see the engineer that calculated the amount of treatment you're getting. Those control systems that you're talking about where you introduce the chlorine, The chlorine you might as well throw out with the rest of it if you don't oxygenate it first. The oxygen allows it to pick up the chlorine. So what you have left after it goes to the distribution is hydrochloric. And before I accepted anything like that, I would want to see the engineer's stamp on what the process ought to be and the samples and the process recommended for this wastewater, not some esoteric imaginable and what you do with it. Sample this one and say what you need to, how much you need to oxygenate and how much chlorine. And you don't know that until you know how much oxygen you got in the water coming out. Thank you.

Thank you. Anyone else for public comment?

Robert Moody. Can you tell me what pond that you're dumping these sewer trucks in? Pond 1 or...

Going into my headworks. So it's not going directly.

It is going into the headworks.

Going upstream of the headworks.

What do you mean upstream?

So we have a manhole before the headworks. It's dumped in there and it makes us do the headworks. It would spiral there, you know, build a rat job and it makes us play it really quickly.

Hey, Justin, I apologize. You want to come sit over here? That way the people online can hear you.

Yes, sir. Thank you. If you have to answer questions. I'm in contact with the longtime past sewer water manager. And he talked to me tonight and said that this new company, this Telestar, that he says you really need to look at another second opinion or something. Because this company, all they're doing is trying to sell you program after program. He says this is a good plant, and if run right, and he said he offered to help train the person, which he was not taking up on, this was not your watch, but he's still willing as a consultant to come in. He says this plant will run it right if it's run right.

Thank you.

So this $54,000, is it just for the installation and the software of this program? Or what is the ongoing cost to the city going to be for this? I mean, obviously, this company, if you've got software, are we paying a monthly maintenance fee to them for support? I'd like to see the total cost for this project. But I'm also concerned that the city didn't go out and get bids for this either, because I'm sure there's more than just this company that does this. And in being in our financial... problems that we are having, you would think that the city would do their due diligence and do what's best for the city.

We'd like to speak to that you can. So that's a one time cost. We already have a SCADA system put in place there. What they would do is they would install the chemical feed, sorry, the analyzer and the mixer, and it would communicate with what we have put in place. There's no ongoing cost. It's a one time installation by the company.

Thank you. Anyone else for public comment? Okay. This time we're going to close public comment. Council discussion. Debbie, would you like to start?

So I have a lot on this one. I Wanted to know who approved the plan because there are considerations that if there's a problem with it with the chlorine that somebody's license is at stake. Is it compliant with state regulations? I wondered about Telstar. I didn't know if we had like a contract with them. That's why we only went to them. I myself would like to see three bids on this. There are multiple companies that do this. And if you do a bid and you put what the equipment is, you should be able to get at least three to do proposals.

Thank you. Wendy?

Okay, a couple of things. If you say that they have, we have a bunch of this Telstar equipment in the plant now. If we were to bring in another company, another manufacturer of this equipment, is that gonna have to, is this price gonna go up? Are we gonna have to like overhaul a bunch of other stuff to be compliant with some of the other existing Telstar equipment?

So no, programmers usually come with every company. They usually have IT guys. It just can be a problem sometimes if there's a prior company that has a different style of doing things there. Another plant that I contract with used a company that just wired things not in a preferred way, so it took a little longer having other IT companies come in and work on it. There's nothing wrong with having different contractors come in and do projects, but for operators, it's always nice to have a familiar one come in and know the equipment there and know what you struggle with there when doing the projects.

I have to agree with Debbie. I'd like to see some other quotes, even though we might not It might just be a mute point, but I think just to be responsible.

Public comment is closed. I'm sorry.

We're in council discussion now.

In the fine print in the quote, it says that the permits are not included. Do we need them and how much are they?

I'm confused by that.

It says cost for permits and bonding are excluded unless expressly referenced in the quotation. And I didn't see it in here.

Of the quote?

Yeah. I didn't see, unless I misread it, but I didn't see anything about permits in this quote.

Any city permits that are needed are waived when it comes to city projects.

Okay. I just wanted to make sure. It's got a one-year warranty on the material. What is the lifespan of this?

Typically, for a flash mixer and an analyzer, the way they're made now is 10 years. And, you know, you're seeing after the first five years, you know, troubleshooting issues and things like that, but usually annual calibrations and, and stuff like that, you know, in the start.

Yeah. I'm all for, I mean, we need to fix it. I think that is, but I think getting a couple of quotes is, would be just responsible of us, even though it's not Telstar, but we still could have somebody else do it. And another question, where does this water with all this chlorine go? That's not in our drinking water, is it?

No. So this is wastewater. And in our wastewater...

Sorry, I'm sorry.

No, no, no, no, that's fine. So there's treated water, which is what we use in our homes, right? Turn on the faucet. There's wastewater when that water goes from your faucet down the drain into the plant. When it goes to the plant, you're seeing bug activity, which helps break down all of the solids in our water. we don't want those bad bugs escaping and going to the final reservoir, which then is sprayed onto the fields per our state permit requirement. And so that's why in the past, operators have had to super chlorinate the line in order to pull the sample and make sure that all the bugs were taken out of it. Yeah.

One more thing, and it's a little bit off topic, but it has to do with the topic. It's my understanding that to be a wastewater treatment specialist takes a lot of schooling. And I think at one point we did have somebody that was on our staff trying to do it, and he just didn't make the grade, and I'm not sure exactly who it was. So you obviously have the credentials for it, and all of our bases are covered. I think us trying to find somebody whether full-time or part-time with those kind of credentials in a small town like this to take it on is like a needle in a haystack. I think the fact that...

I appreciate you saying that. I'm a grade four wastewater operator. I'm a treatment two and a distribution two. And, you know, I've seen the struggle that you guys were having here. I was happy to come in. it's definitely not my contract is definitely not the cost usually of what my license is but you know i'm here to help train staff and i think there's a bigger picture plan a year from now to save more money in the future you know kind of consolidating things definitely a specialized uh field yeah that's it for me over all right thank you for coming in and doing them making the presentation um

Help me explain a couple of things. Were we ever non-compliant then towards the state in our current situation? Could be. Okay. When we talk about different systems, Telstar versus others, in order to make more sense in my mind, is it like Android versus Apple or... Or not quite that bad?

Not quite that bad. It's just nice to have a company familiar with the plant coming in and getting your cabinets. I've had in the past different companies coming in and you have SCADA issues for months after. SCADA is what gives us our alarms and alerts us when things are going wrong. So if things like that are shutting down on you, it's a problem.

Okay. I don't know if you know the answer to this or if Cameron does, but how quickly would a new system like this pay for itself?

So we were seeing if we can pull up chlorine costs, which I'm sure we could, and let council take a look at them. You know, hearing that it was upwards of 50,000 a year, if we're looking at one time installing this and this beginning to disinfect and lowering chlorine costs because we're not having to super chlorinate to take this sample once a week, you'd see it in your first year. Yeah. Doctor, do you concur?

Yeah, probably in the first two or three years. Thank you.

Is there any chance, I'm not guessing that any company would let us do it, but since the labor is so high, would anybody allow us for our city staff to pitch in in labor or probably not?

I'm pretty positive our city staff is going to have to pitch in, but I don't think that's concluded in their labor. Okay, thank you.

Thank you. Most of the questions I haven't been answered, except for I would like to say I think that the three bids are important to people and the council members up here. If we were to put this out, I don't know, 20 is better to answer this. If we were to put this out, would we be able to have bids for this, say, by our meeting of August 13th? And if we did that, does that hurt us to hold off and wait on this? Would it be a big problem for you to do that?

Would you like me to answer that? I think we have a pretty good relationship with Telstar, where we can ask them to hold off so we can get the other bids. Does it have to be an RFP or no?

Andreas?

I don't believe it has to be an RFP. I think the amount is low enough where it doesn't have to be. Okay.

I can look up the policy.

Okay. Okay. But if it does, it does.

Well, you know about I's and T's.

Andrea, it's like a minute. Give it a minute here.

Andrea, should we take a quick recess or?

Almost there. Okay. Looks like we should be okay with informal quotes on this amount.

Okay, thank you. So nothing else for council discussion?

No, I'd be happy if- All right.

But that look for a motion there. Well, on this, we would just, if we want to do it, the direction would go, go back to go get more quotes. Yeah. So we don't need to do that.

You don't need to think about taking that direction.

Yeah. I think overall, that's what we want to do.

Okay.

Thank you. All right. Thank you for 10. Sir, please. Yeah. Of the outbursts. We're going to move on to item 7.4, city manager.

Thank you. This is for a resolution concurring in call for an election on the question of reestablishing the countywide abandoned vehicle abatement fee. The city of Plymouth has received a request to adopt a resolution concurring in the call for an election to reestablish the Amador County abandoned vehicle abatement program and the associated $1 vehicle registration fee authorized under Section 22710 of the California Vehicle Code. The abandoned vehicle payment program is a state authorized program that provides funding to counties and participating cities to assist with the removal of abandoned wrecked dismantled or inoperative vehicles from public and private property. The program helps local jurisdictions address public safety concerns, reduce environmental hazards, improve neighborhood aesthetics, and prevent abandoned vehicles from becoming public nuisance nuisance. The City of Plymouth originally supported the establishment of the Amador County Abandoned Vehicle Abatement Authority in 1991. Following the passage of Proposition 26 in 2010, the continuation of the vehicle registration fee became subject to voter approval. Amador County voters renewed the fee in 2012 for an additional 10 years. However, the fee expired after failing to receive the required two-thirds voter approval during the November 2022 election. Pursuant to California Vehicle Code Section 22710, paren H, before the question of reestablishing the fee may be placed before county voters, resolutions concurring with the election must be adopted by a majority of the cities containing a majority... of the incorporated population within the county. Adoption of the proposed resolution satisfies the city's participation in the statutory process and allows the county to proceed with placing the measure before the voters. If ultimately approved by the voters, the $1 annual vehicle registration fee would continue funding the countywide abandoned vehicle abatement program, providing resources for the removal of abandoned vehicles throughout Amador County, including within the city of Plymouth. staff believes continued participation in the program supports the city's efforts to maintain clean safe and attractive public spaces while reducing the burden on local resources there's no direct physical impact associated with adopting this resolution and staff recommends that the city council review discuss and adopt resolution 2026 tac 15 concurring in the call for an election on the question of re-establishing the county-wide abandoned vehicle abatement fee thank you thank you we have any public comment on this

Closing public comment and council discussion.

I have nothing.

Nothing for me.

Don't need a discussion for me, no.

Nothing, so looking for a motion. I have a motion to adapt Resolution 2026-15 concurring in the call for an election on the question of reestablishing the countywide abandoned vehicle abatement fee.

I'll second. Council Member Bottomley? Aye. Council Member Dill? Aye. Vice Mayor Hornish?

Aye.

Mayor Nunn?

Aye.

Thank you. Motion passes.

Item 7.5 is consideration of a special event application for the Plymouth Foothills Rotary Club 2026 Farmers Market and Street Closure. City Manager.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The Plymouth Foothills Rotary Club has submitted a special event application requesting approval for temporary street closures associated with the 2026 Plymouth Farmers Market season. The Farmers Market is an annual event sponsored by the Rotary Club that has become a valued community tradition, attracting hundreds of residents and visitors to downtown Plymouth at each event throughout the summer. The Rotary Club is requesting the closure of Main Street between Mineral Street and Poplar Street during each market to expand the vendor area. The additional space will allow the Rotary Club to accommodate more vendors while creating a safer and more enjoyable experience for attendees. The homeless farmers market has consistently proven to be a successful community event that promotes local businesses, supports regional vendors and encourages tourism within the city. The requested expansion is anticipated to increase vendor participation while enhancing the overall experience for residents and visitors. The requested street closure is requested from 5 to 8 p.m., although it would have to be a little bit sooner in order to safely close the streets. on each of the eight scheduled farmers market dates. Street closures will realistically need to be conducted approximately an hour before the start of the event and after for tear down cleanup. To safely implement the closure, city staff will be responsible for installing and removing traffic control devices and barricades, posting advanced notification signs prior to each event, monitoring the street closure throughout the event to ensure public safety and traffic control, and reopening the roadway following the conclusion of each farmers market. Public Works estimates that two employees will be required for approximately five hours during each event to complete these duties, including setup, monitoring, and teardown. Event dates are August 6, 13, 20, and 27, and September 3, 10, 17, and 24 of 2026. Implementation of the requested street closure will require overtime staffing by the Public Works Department unless Plymouth Footwell Rotary covers the cost of the staff. The estimated personnel cost is based on the following. Two Public Works employees, five overtime hours per employee for each event. Base salary of $30.37 with an overtime rate of 1.5 times, $45.56 per hour. The total for eight events comes to $3,644.40. The Rotary did state that they were going to submit a grant request. We haven't seen that yet. And I've also followed up with our insurance because it's always been the city's responsibility policy to have staff man these road closures. I haven't been able to find a policy on it, and I also confirmed with our insurance that they don't have a policy on it or anything in our insurance that says we have to have city employees, but it has been the best practice for the city. Thank you.

Did they say if it had to be trained?

There was some sign holding and stuff like that, but they would have to have volunteers manning these gates to set up and tear down.

Okay, thank you very much. So we're going to open public comment on this. And before we do, I'm going to say we have one public comment submitted in favor of doing this from Tracy Berkner, B&E Hospitality Group, who also owns our local hotel and restaurant. Okay. Anyone for public comment? Sir, I think I have your card here. Actually, I forgot to call you. I'm sorry. Ron Entom, please step up.

Jay Dong, I'm the founder of Edward's Farm. Thank you, sir.

I'm also the president of the Farmers Market Association. I hope some of the Rotary members would be here tonight to talk about this, but at least they gave me a heads up and asked me to come down and talk. So what was the number you quoted in terms of labor for the city total for the market season?

Total will be, for the eight events, will be $3,644. $3,000. It's approximately $455.55 per event.

Per market. Okay. Well, it's a lot lower than I was told. So that's good. We do have some precedent set. A few years ago, I went before the Board of Supervisors for Volcano. Of course, they're not an incorporated city, so I had to go through the county. We got unanimous support from the supervisors to close the road. Jeff Brown is very instrumental in helping us work through that. He used his expendable fund to pay the fee. We worked with Public Works for Amador County, who allowed us to pick up the signs from their yard and take them to our location and bring them back. So we had volunteers setting up those signs. I don't know if that's an option or maybe a partial option. what we're doing this season for what we're requesting um but something to discuss because it even at 450 dollars per market it adds up obviously eight or nine markets i'm not sure if we have eight or nine cameron i counted eight on the day so okay it very well might be i haven't looked at that schedule that close i thought it's usually nine for one month five the other so If that's a possibility, it would certainly help us financially if Rotary volunteers could help handle the signs. Maybe put them up and take them down and put them in one central location where they could be gathered. Something to discuss if the city's open to that. I know that acquiring Main Street and Volcano has made a huge difference in the market. We're fortunate to have the country store up there chip in and split the cost of using barriers that are the same as the cities, but we didn't have to go to the city every week and get the barriers. So that helped out. So we're actually putting up barriers and detour signs that the market owns up in Volcano. I don't know if that's an option either, but over time, just not this one season, but next season and the season after, it's going to add up. So something else to consider. So I don't know that we're going to get anything resolved tonight other than our wish to participate in the manning of the signs in the barricades. But it does make a difference. We have vendors in the park up on the hill. We have vendors in the park between the food and the main grassy area in the park that we'd like to open up. It would make more seating available for people to come and eat at the tables and get a little less congestion within the market. And so we'd still have the park. We'd still have music in the gazebo. We still have beer and wine right there at the curb where they haven't been. But we'd have four or five vendors in the street and allow us to bring another produce vendor, a couple of craft vendors. We've got a pretty extensive waiting list for this market because we're limited by space.

Very worth the time. So I appreciate your input on it. And we will consider that. And thank you. Anyone else for public comment on this? Mike?

Mike Spinetta from Hawksview. I was frantically texting our Rotary president down there in the audience. Yeah, neither could Tracy. So I'm glad Tracy had that letter. I didn't know about that. That was good. Yeah, and I would just liken it to the best operations of the Harvest Festival, where we close down the road and things work well. And however the operations work for that and the volunteering. And expanding that market, it's so positive and having less congestion. It made it so much easier during the Harvest Fest. And I really like the idea, too, of doing this. And businesses can be open during it. There's still enough parking and everything. But having more businesses selling more vendors, I think that's very, very positive. And, you know, I've I've been I used to sell at the farmer's market, raising money for the schools by selling flowers and selling lemonade and selling butterflies. Even one time I outsold Rotary's alcohol revenue just by selling butterflies. I think I made about 500 bucks and I kept catching them and giving them back to the kids how to do that. But and then Tracy graciously bought all of the remaining flowers and decorated taste with it. Um, so anyway, I think it's a real good idea. We have all the ways in and out here and around for everyone to go and plenty of parking. So I hope you do support the idea and and and man and Tracy and everybody at rotary. They just, they're really good. All you guys, we're all great supporting the city. So thanks for your support. If this goes forward. Yeah, anyone else?

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir. You have to come to the microphone.

Myself and my neighbors usually can't wait for the farmer's market. We love it. It's a wonderful event in the city.

Thank you. Anyone else for public comment?

Rosemary, Marino, Moody, Plymouth. I do have to disagree with Mike. There is not enough parking for the farmers market. And now we're going to be taking some more parking spots away. I'm fully supportive of the farmer's market. I think it's a great thing for Plymouth. A lot of people from other towns in the county come, which is wonderful to see people. And it's a great experience. I have no problem with that. The $3,600, though, I do have a problem with that. The city fronted the bill for that. It just seems like a lot of money and really no benefit to the city. I mean... Directly and to use T O T funds to. Take care of closing a road. I don't think it's appropriate. I think those T O T funds since they're so. Little anymore, and they're very sacred. They should be put towards actual things that. The citizens benefit directly from so I just. I mean, it's a great idea. It's too bad. We didn't have more room to expand out. I don't know because they. the behind the pop ups. Can they put vendors back there? I mean, that's a possibility. The city keeps it mode directly across next to the park. The directly across the street from here.

The wooden buildings up there. Yeah. The wooden buildings. Correct. Papa Plaza.

Is to remove the vendors in between all that. So there's clear passage through. because there are a couple of vendors who still, like the baker, still wants to stay and still sell produce within the market as well. So there's some interesting things developing as soon as we figure out what space we've got to work with. But my goal is to open up that area to the food vendor, to the pop-up vendors, and utilize the parking lot to be used. Certainly maintain the handicapped parking area But I'm saying behind the pop-ups is a area that the city owns that is

plenty of room to put additional vendors and then they would go through the pop-ups, which give them exposure because that's what we're trying to do is to get their businesses going. So hopefully that they open up in Plymouth, but because you're not allowing parking back there. So that space is not utilized. I mean, I'm just saying that way you could have it all in that side of the area and not close down the road and not.

We, we, I think we do have people parking back there, so we would just lose the spots, I think, along the fence on, like, say, the right side of the park, I mean, the play area. Going up, is that what you're talking about?

No, I'm talking about this side behind the pop-ups.

On this side?

Yeah, I've been told that.

I'm saying that that's an alternative to both in a row and this is fasted. Thank you.

Anyone else for public comment on this? Anyone online? Okay. Going once, going twice. All right. We're going to close public comment and then go to council discussion.

I think that the cost is fairly small. I get what Rosemary is saying, but I think that the farmer's market does bring a big benefit to the city. And I do agree that a lot of people come from out of town, which I think benefits the city. So I'm not opposed to it.

Okay. I do have a few questions. So you said there's a wait list for vendors. So if we chose to close the street, if there was a would we be guaranteed six vendors or is that and six all you can in the space?

You can go ahead and step up since you're probably the best to answer our questions. Go ahead and step up if you want.

I think we've got to look at the market as it operates now because I'm responsible for bringing the vendors to the market. Rotary runs the market. They do all that. But me, as the head of the farmer's market, I deal with the vendors so we don't have a free-for-all when everybody shows up. Everybody's got to know where they're going to come and know where they're going to set up beforehand. Sure.

Okay.

Everybody can't be in the shade, right? Right. But right now, by trying to expand the vendor base for the market, we've started to put people up on the grassy hill. We started to jam them in between the bathroom and the water fountain there, that side where the food is. And I'm trying to open that up. So we probably move three or four of those and then bring three or four, maybe even five vendors in. that have been wanting to get in. There's a jewelry vendor that wants to get in. There's a few craft people that really want to get in, and probably another produce vendor I can bring in. And we won't just put crafts in the street. There'll be produce. We've got a great salsa vendor that really wants to join the market. I'd love to see her at the market because she does so well at our other markets. People really like her stuff. So for a specific number, four or five that we'd add, I'm not sure yet, but it's probably in that range.

So you safe to assume that we would have the street filled with vendors every week?

Yeah. And we don't want that. You know, the charm is the park. You know, that's the throwback. That's that's the gazebo and the music. And it's just it's it's it's a time machine, you know, and we all love the market for that. And we don't want to lose that. We don't want to move music into the street on a trailer. It's like, no, no, no. We just want to make a little bit more room, give people a little more elbow room, and not wall-to-wall vendors. We'll spread them out. And I talked to Tracy on Sunday. She came to see me in Volcano. And she's, of course, all for it. Didn't she supply a letter of recommendation for this? Yeah. And she said, Ron, just don't put a food vendor in front of my restaurant. Okay. Good call. Deal.

Yeah.

It really boils down to cost and what the Rotary can burden and what the city can burden. I'm sure we can work this out. I've been pushing for this for a couple of years and finally here we are. I'm happy to be part of whatever discussion, Cameron, and Nan knows that. If that meeting comes up, there's still more discussion, I'm sure, amongst yourselves. I hope we can figure this out soon.

I love the farmer's market. I'm a solid farmer. Me too.

I've been doing that market for 10 years.

Yeah. And I've been to some big ones and they're great. Also, closing the street because the more people we get down there, the more people are going to be crossing the street. So it also brings the safety factor.

Sure.

You know, people are parking down these side streets. If the streets close, you're not going to have any cross traffic.

People... Right. I mean, the two barriers is going to resolve that. And, you know, yes, it will eliminate a couple of parking spots in front of Taste. I mean, that's going to be the downside.

I hear correctly that we don't have an insurance policy or protocol, I should say, for... The Rotary being able to set up the signs so we would not have to use public works people or maybe one person just to make sure that they're done properly, like a setup check, and then they're good and then they'd be responsible for, you know, taking the equipment back to the yard or where? I'm not sure where it goes.

I mean, that's the kind of details we have to get worked up. In regards to insurance, I mean, this is Rotary's market. And if there was an insurance policy to be taken up, they would do it. Amador Farmer's market runs without Rotary. the ion market, the volcano market, and the Soda Creek market. We're always asked to get an insurance policy, liability insurance policy, and name the city as additionally insured. Rotary could possibly do that, but I can't speak for them.

It would make it a lot more palatable if we could do that, if we could not use all of our city employees. A, they might not all want to work on a Thursday night. I mean, let's be real. Are they going to draw straws? And then we wouldn't be tied with this amount of money that, you know, we're trying to hand off to Rotary or to the city or, you know, nobody wants to pay it because if we could get the Rotary to do some of the legwork on the equipment, setting up the street, that would... Yeah, I don't know about any of that stuff.

I know Rotary has a good volunteer base. Rotary's got a good volunteer base, and it's worked for many years.

I'm just looking for ways to make this happen because I think it's great, but to benefit the city, benefit the small vendors. I mean, all about it, man. Big boxes coming in, and I'm over it.

Yeah, and we've all been to the farmer's market. We know how much everybody appreciates who's there and what they can find there. Yeah.

So, I think that is okay if I can just reiterate that the city doesn't have any policies on it. It's just been long term practice of the city to manage those. The doesn't have anything specific addressing road closures such as this. They did recommend that we follow a certain guideline and having flaggers and stuff. There, but whether it's volunteer or see staff there, they've taken, they're not. giving any input on it.

I have a quick question for... In anticipation of this agenda item being passed, did yourself or anyone else reach out to city employees and see how they would feel about for two months in a row being mandatory to work week in and week out? Because, I mean, they might want to. They might love the overtime. I'm just curious if we know their feeling on having to do this for two months in a row. No, sir.

I've not pulled them. But we have a pretty solid crew all throughout, whether it's Public Works or myself or somebody would man it if needed. And I'm a lot cheaper than the Public Works guys.

All right. Well, I'll get up and hold your toes and let him know, sister.

Thank you, Don. The way I see it, I mean, there's three things that come to mind. Change the city policy if there is such a thing in place, but you said there isn't, right? Since there isn't one, let's get Rotary to put up the labor, and they should already have a COI naming the city as an extra insured. So let's make sure that's happening. If that were not to be feasible, the next point that I would bring up is let's split the cost with Rhody. And then the next point I would bring up is why can't we staff them from 1 p.m. to 9 p.m. on that day to make that their full day?

The answer to the last part, we are a skeleton crew on public works right now. I mean, it would be detrimental to the city operations if we take it away further.

Correct. Okay. So, I mean, let's dive into the fact that Rotary can staff it, eliminating any burden on the city, but have to, must name the city on their certificate of insurance.

Yeah, and they do. I'd be interested if their insurance would cover the road closure portion of it. Like I said, our insurance doesn't have anything to say if we haven't done it. We typically don't close down the roads for events. I think this was the first year we did it for the Harvest Festival. It was kind of unprecedented for the city to do.

Yeah. I mean, outside of the Christmas market, I freaking love the Farmer's Market. I don't know what it is, but it just evokes a feeling, and I'm happy as a pig in you-know-what. supporting and eating the local fare, and that's just me. But I would love to see this getting passed as soon as possible.

It seems like there's a few minor caveats that we can work out, Cameron.

Yeah, I think it comes down to the council. I just want to point out that their 1st forms market is August 6th. We just got this. So there isn't really don't have the opportunity to pass this off to the next media.

So can't we. Can we adopt this or or vote on this tonight with.

An addendum, so with the condition that either rotary splits the cost 50, 50, or staffs it entirely if their insurance covers it. Correct? Yes.

Anything else. So, I'll say I actually had a lot of films about this, just like everybody else up here. I love the farmer's market. I go to it fairly often and totally support business here in town and having events here in town. So, in anticipation of this pandemic. You know, you know, being on the agenda, I reached out to one of the Rotary members and talked for about an hour the other night just about this. And we talked, discussed different ideas and so forth, because I was kind of curious. I understand it's a big benefit that downtown businesses and people, you know, want to. You know, the atmosphere downtown and everything, because I kind of wondered about, you know, the parking situation and all that about. Use the veterans parks. You have so much room and you have all that parking over there, but it's always been an issue. Yeah.

And you have old Coburn field there, but whether those three or four spots in front of taste or not, or not, it's still, it's going to be a shame.

Yeah.

So I, that's the nature of our success.

I was told we just, we just don't have the bathrooms to do it. Facilities out there to do the market out there at, at the veterans park. So, yeah. And, and, And the people want their children to go there. Another question I posed to her is apparently we can't close that parking lot in there at all because that's the handicapped parking spot, that center parking lot. So we can't.

Well, we've left it in the last two years. We left the handicapped spots open. And you actually had the popcorn vendor in that parking lot, too. But we've lobbied to get her out. So she's on the street now. Not in a bad way. Yeah. So I think there's some discussion to have with parking and what we can make accessible. I know our vendors come in and unload there, but they all know they got to get out of there. They can't leave their cars there. And we've been using the gravel lot behind the pop-ups for our vendors. Now, whether that has to change and our vendors have to park a little farther away and make those spots available for customers, that's something to be discussed.

So another idea I had, I was wondering if you'd ever considered possibly having a concern about it being Thursday night. Right at that time, a lot of people coming home from work in Folsom, El Dorado Hills, other places. So you have people trying to get onto side streets and so forth. It's a lot of traffic. Have you considered possibly asking for a closure on Landrum Street? Say the vendors were right above the park. Put some vendors right above the play area.

The hill's a problem.

Is it?

Yeah. Old people can't go up that hill.

Oh, okay.

You know, it's just not safe.

Yeah.

I'm coming down, too. Myself included.

Yeah.

So that's what I'm trying to do is make the market a little safer, a little leveler. And just, you know, we've got to be careful. We've got to mark the curb because now we've got a curb to deal with on a constant basis on both sides. Yeah.

And then probably my last concern I have on this is I feel like it's one thing to close the street down on an annual basis for a certain event, but to, say, do a street closure for one group, per se, a couple months at a time to close the street for a certain group because they want to have an event there. What precedent do we set there? Now say that somebody else says, you know what, we'd like to have a car show on Main Street, Plymouth, every Saturday morning from 9 to 12. And we turn them down and say, no, we can't shut the street down and do that. And they say, well, you let the Rotary Club do it for the farmer's market.

But that's our right. We have the right of refusal.

I mean, I can't prepare that to get into a situation where you start to have a lot of these requests come in the way we dealt with this in another jurisdiction I've worked with was that we basically had a window of time when applications for road closures would have to come in for the year and then they'd all be considered at once to minimize the impact.

I think there's a good argument for the farmer's market serving the community, bringing local farmers to bring their wares, you know, and to bring their produce. And the Rotary does wonderful things. We all know the wonderful things they've done in the town. So not to say a car show doesn't help with that and entertain people, but I think there's a big difference.

So I did want to point out that we've got a raised hand from Stephanie online. While we did already close public comment, we've had a pretty free discussion here on this item. So I'd recommend we take her comment at this point.

Yeah. Jacob? We're going to take public comment from Stephanie Marino online.

Okay.

I'm good.

Thank you for allowing me to speak. I was just able to attend the meeting because I just got out of my other one. But I just want to say that I wholeheartedly support closing this section of the road down for the farmer's market. I think that that's the kind of event where we're actually showing people in the streets and people mingling is the kind that's going to attract more people to the downtown area. It'll benefit our other vendors. I just wanted to suggest that if you wanted to lower the cost of the employees, perhaps there's not much of a barrier.

Sir, somebody's speaking. Can we keep it down out there, please? Thank you. I'm sorry, Stephanie. Go ahead.

That's okay. If you wanted to reduce the cost of the burden on the employees and the city for the cost, perhaps, and I missed your conversation, maybe this is already discussed, but you could flex public employees hours on those days so that you're not having to pay overtime, you're just paying straight time. um because they could just start later and end a later and that would make the cost cheaper for the city and cheaper for the rotary club if you're asking them to help support the cost but i i think this is this would be a great project for the city to take on without having the rotary to have to participate in the cause thank you thank you okay well

Anybody else have any anything else on this or you guys want to.

No, all right so I guess we're looking for a motion on it. And during this, how would we work this down?

Well, you'd worded according to your wishes on how you want to modify the request. If you want to modify the request, there had been discussion of. 50-50 cost chip making approval of the road closure contingent on a 50-50 cost year or making a contingent on rotary staffing the road closures.

But I don't believe they put in their permanent application for the daughter.

And so that wouldn't be something that would be something that voting on tonight. I have to go discuss with them whether either one of those are options for them. Another option could be to approve this request with the direction to Cameron to work with Rotary on a cost share that if they can't come up with it, the city would be willing to spend the expected funds, but to put in a good faith effort with Rotary to negotiate some kind of a cost share or to have them staff it. That would be another option.

I would have serious concerns, honestly, about not using public works or other people to do the road closures and stuff. I mean, all it takes is somebody to set up and we could have a problem.

I mean, I don't know. Aside from the signage day off, I don't know how long it would take to grab a couple of barriers, put them out, and then put them back.

I think the thing is, as city manager, I think we generally have somebody stationed there. I guess you know how people are.

But if we don't have to have somebody stationed there.

So that was the one recommendation from Sarah. They asked us to take a look at its kind of a guideline for the California on how to close road closures. And one thing is that they stress was having somebody at the barricades manning them or flaggers, what they called them.

Isn't that something that Roderick can also... supply and they'll be trained in?

Again, we don't have a policy on it. Sierra doesn't have any guidance on it. They don't have a policy on it. So if Rotary wants to take that, I mean, that'd be a council decision.

And would the insurance, if anything were to happen because of they're not trained properly or something, would the insurance cover that, any mishaps?

uh sir again our insurance declined to participate in giving any guidance on how to yeah it has to fall on road race insurance and so the one thing i would recommend i'm sorry mr mayor is making sure that their insurance would cover them doing this kind of stuff robert break the rules since we did it for other people i guess we do it for you it's kind of a free-for-all right now you have something to say real quick yeah you got me

So if you do close the road, are you going to run them up Landrum Street?

I think if the road's closed, it would be up to those people. That was the concern. They've got to take whatever route.

It's so narrow. When they close it for the parade, the speed that they pass our houses, they do on Landrum. I mean, they whip up and down that road. That was during the parade. Yeah. Yeah.

We could put an arrow out, I would think, and the city manager could have Public Works put something out showing detour, a suggested route, but obviously most of these people know the route, and so they're going to go that way.

A lot of people coming up that road are out of town. We should invite the sheriff to sit out there and hand out some tickets and make some money. So, do we want to make a motion on this? I mean, I would make a motion on this to approve this conditionally that Rotary names the city to a sufficient amount of a COI, staffs it themselves, and watches a YouTube video on how to be a good flagger or something. I mean, safety first. That would be my motion.

I'll second.

So just to be clear, the motion is to not expend any city funds on the road closures. Correct. Okay.

And does that include future requests for city funds, like top funds or anything? You're saying not expending any city funds. Are you talking just the public employees or are you talking if grants ask for it?

I'm talking about the staffing of the road closures.

Okay. I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page. Okay. Okay.

I made a second. Council Member Bottomley. Aye. Council Member Dell. Aye. Vice Mayor Hornish.

Aye.

Mayor Nunn. Aye. Thank you. Motion passes.

Okay. At 7.5. You need a break? I think we're almost done. Two more. Two more. They're quick ones. Okay. So that was 7.5. So we're going to go to item 7.6, response to the 2025-26 Amador County Grand Jury Report Financial Audit Status.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. On June 23rd, 2026, the Elmer County Civil Grand Jury released its report titled City of Plymouth Financial Audit Status, which reviewed the city's compliance with annual financial audit requirements. The report acknowledges the city's ongoing efforts to address the backlog of outstanding financial audits and recognizes that the city has already begun corrective actions, including straightening its finance department and initiating completion of the overdue audits. Restoring the city's financial reporting and audit schedule has been a priority of the City Council and the staff. Since the appointment of the current City Manager, the City has made significant progress by recruiting qualified financial personnel, working collaboratively with the City's independent auditors, and establishing a plan to complete the outstanding audits while implementing procedures to ensure future audits are completed in accordance with statutory requirements and accepted accounting standards. The grand jury's report provides the city with an opportunity to formally document the progress already underway and reaffirm its commitment to sound financial stewardship, transparency, and accountability. California Penal Code sections 933 and 933.05 require the city council to adopt and submit a formal response to grand jury's findings and recommendation within 90 days. Approval of the proposed response fulfills the statutory obligation while highlighting the city's continued commitment to responsible financial management and continuous organizational improvement. There's no direct fiscal impact associated with approving the city's response to the grand jury report, and staff recommends the city council review, discuss, and approve the city's response to the 2025-26 Amador County Grand Jury Report, and authorize the mayor to execute and submit the response on behalf of the city council in accordance with the California Penal Codes 933 and 933.05. Thank you. Thank you.

At this point, we'll open this to public comment. Anyone? Rosemary?

Rosemary Marino, Plymouth. I have a question that's in the packet, the letter. There's only one page. It doesn't seem like it's a complete letter.

So it's just missing the signature line. It is the full substantive response.

Okay. So basically, the city's just agreeing with it and saying they haven't anything to implement. So we're really not Telling them anything. Well, I mean, you keep telling us they're in the audit phase right now for 2021. Why aren't we telling them we're trying, we're started with this or something? It seems like such a generic response. Like, yeah, we know. Okay. next order of business.

Right. So we, we had already started the process of getting ready to do the audit back when, when interviews and stuff like that happens. So they're, they're familiar with where we're at, what we were planning on doing. It's ours. So if you read the report, it was just that we were already doing it and they need, they suggested a financial tracker. I mean, it's the audit tracker and some other things, but the response is basic.

I mean, it just seems like there could be a little more elaboration on that to show the city's good faith in trying to get this done. Just my personal opinion.

Anyone else for public comment? Stephanie.

Thank you. My comments are along the same line. I just had an opportunity to look at this. Typically, jurisdictions will have a little bit more explanation in there, give a little bit more context for people picking this up for the first time that kind of justifies what's been happening a little bit instead of just saying, yeah, you're right, our bad, we won't do it again. doesn't really seem to respond to the gravity of the moment for this. So I'd like to recommend that you go into a little more detail about how you're going to be doing this audit, quarterly audit tracking, maybe indicate when the first reports going to be coming to the city council, some kind of objective that the grand jury can actually go back and look and say, yeah, they did this. Because what they will do is during this year's grand jury thing, they will go back and see if these things are happening as expected. So I just wanted to suggest that. Also, just to point out to you that you really, the city has not done what the city council has directed it to do. So you are going to be lagging behind if you don't get those RFPs out. The City council gave direction to get the RFPs out. It would take a couple of months to get responses and review. And the city manager's office has ignored that direction from the council. And so I'd like for the council to address that issue as well, because you're going to find yourself in the same place next year if you don't get those things in place. Thank you.

Thank you. I'd say that, talk to this real quickly. I believe that reading the report, what the city is basically saying is at the time, I think of the grand jury report, we had a brand new city manager come on. We have new staff council council coming on and we're saying that we concur the past problems and we're working on them. And I think that they're saying they concur with the fact that, that we're agreeing. We know that things didn't get done in time. We're working on it. And it's all to say, as far as the RFPs, The city manager, we did the, we talked about having the, I've spoken with the city manager and we had a decision moving forward and that probably will come to the council at some point. Not very far off to get redirection on whether we're doing. The city manager has anything you'd like to say about that you can, but.

Yeah, we're working through this audit. It was a lot more intensive because we had to correct a lot of the stuff from the previous audit from the company that's now out of business. And so this is taking a lot longer. So we're waiting to get to a certain threshold before we put out the RFP so we can hit one audit and roll right into the next.

So at this point, anyone else for public comment or no? All right. So close public comment on this. Is there any staff member? I mean, say never.

I have nothing. Thank you, Wendy.

You know, from reading the the report from the county and then what they're asking of us and it's we're complying with what they wanted. We gave them enough information. They came up with their own conclusion and said, okay, these are what we need from you. And we are sending them a letter. And we're going to give them what they asked. No more, no less. That's all I have to say.

Order? Nothing. I have nothing further either. So... So I lost my place. We need a motion on that. Do you have an offer?

I'll make a motion to approve the city's response to the 2025-2026 Amateur County Grand Jury Report regarding financial audits status. I'll second.

Council Member Bottomley. Aye. Council Member Dell. Aye. Vice Mayor Hornish.

Aye.

Mayor Nunn.

Aye.

Thank you. Motion passes.

Moving on. Item 7.7. Authorization to appoint an alternative representative to the Amador Fire Protection Authority. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

The Amador Fire Protection Authority, or AFPA, is a joint powers authority that provides regional coordination and oversight of fire protection services within Amador County. The authority is responsible for governance, policy direction, financial oversight, and strategic plans to support the delivery of efficient and effective fire and emergency services throughout the region. To ensure the city of Plymouth maintains consistent representation and participation in the AFPA meetings and decision making, staff recommends authorizing the appointment of an alternative representative. The alternative representative would attend and participate in meetings when the city's primary representative is unavailable. Ensuring the city's interest continues to be represented and allowing the authority to conduct business without interruption. Appointing an alternative representative promotes continuity, strengthens regional collaboration, and ensures the city remains actively engaged in matters affecting public safety and fire protection services. There's no direct fiscal impact associated with authorizing the appointment of our alternative, and staff recommends the City Council review, discuss, select an alternative representative, and authorize the appointment of the selected individual to serve as the city's alternate representative on the Amador Fire Protection Authority. Thank you.

Thank you. Any public comment on this? Okay, now we're going to close public comment, and we'll go to... Council discussion, Tara? Anything?

I'd be willing to do it if nobody else wants to.

Right now, I'm the person in a lot of the meetings. I guess, well, there hasn't been a lot, but there was one last month and I couldn't go because I didn't know until a day or two ahead of time. But they're right in the middle of the day on weekdays. So that's the one thing I guess we should have said about that.

I can usually flex my time. Um, if I have a couple of days notice, I'm fortunate that my boss is pretty flexible with me for stuff like that.

Okay. My schedule is flexible too. So. Okay. I work from home, so I can leave whenever I want.

You're both well and, uh, do you have a holder in it?

I can't do it. But yes, let's appoint an alternate.

Okay. And yeah, we just need an alternate. Which one of you guys wants to do it? Who's got straws? Yeah.

Where do we have to go?

Oh, it's usually in the county building in Jackson. That's where they hold them all in that Board of Supervisors chambers.

I'll do it.

Motion. Are we making the motion to appoint Deborah? To appoint said person?

Yes, as the alternate.

Okay. I'll make a motion to authorize the appointment of an alternate representative to the Amateur Fire Protection Authority, being Debbie Dill.

I'll second. Council Member Bottomley? Aye. Council Member Dill? Aye. Vice Mayor Hornish?

Aye.

Mayor Nunn?

Aye.

Thank you. Motion passes.

Okay. Moving on. City Manager's Report.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. To go over the sheriff stats for June, we had a total of 154 incidents in the city. We had approximately 19 car stops, 5 citizen assists. We had warrant service, felony warrant service, violation of court orders. We had two hit and run property damage accidents and additional vehicle accidents. A total of five arrests, one for possession of controlled substance with two or more priors, possession of paraphernalia, driving while under the influence of drugs. Arrest three was violation of domestic violence, assuring order, uh, felony warrant for ten, eight, five, one or stolen vehicle and arrest five was brandish of a deadly weapon. Um, four 17, eight, which is a knife resist or obstruct the peace officer, um, as well. we did wrap up our 4th of July event and it was awesome. Even with the fire, there was a lot of moving parts. And once we were given kind of the notification that Hawksview had to be evacuated, City staff jumped in and quickly turned this place into an evacuation center. We didn't have any customers, but we were ready. It was quite a team effort. I'm pretty proud of the team. We were able to calmly also clear Main Street for vehicle, emergency vehicle access. So we had to shut down the parade just a few minutes early, but everybody was real responsive, took direction well, cleared the streets. Um, we did identify some areas where the city could improve. Um, one is looking into policies. You know, this one for the evacuation center. A lot of times our evacuation center becomes the fairgrounds, but for the immediate response, and we were in touch with Mr Hoffman from the fair, um, in case it got to that point. Um, but. Having an in case we do need to open this up for evacuation centers, which also got me thinking about cooling centers in the winter or excuse me, summer and warming centers for our residents in the in the winter. So we're, we're actively working on setting something up like that right now. There was no major safety issues between the sheriff's office and the fire department. They nailed it. They were present. They were walking around moving. We had, I think. 2 possible illegal fireworks fire couldn't get their drone up in time to identify him, but that was significantly less than we've had in years past. And we heard from a lot that this was probably the largest and most organized event they've seen. I give credit to our staff to fire into the sheriff's office for helping make that happen. Tapco sign update. So all the bases are pretty much built and getting ready to be installed. There were some parts that weren't included that we needed just for leveling. Also, the signs came with 25 mile an hour signs versus the 15 that we have in our school zone. So those are getting corrected right now. So I anticipate within the next couple weeks, again, that those will be in place. And we are working with Shenandoah Excavating to make that happen. Our wastewater plant, we've elevated the review. It was brought up, you know, about having our engineers do a levee inspection. And that's kind of out of their scope. So now we're looking for a geotech engineer to come in, conduct that inspection. Um, a lot of deferred maintenance over the last years we've been able to accomplish, um, such as replacing, um, the brushes on the head works, which were almost non existent. Um, and we're also working on fiber optic cable issue out there, um. And obtain multiple options to correct that issue. So we'll bring that to the Council of need be. Um. But we're getting a couple quotes for that. Um, and then there's a fire hydrant that was part of a hit and run, um, a couple of months or quite a few months back in front of Marlene and Glenn's. And we are also working to address that issue, uh, with fire, a w a and speak with Shannon to excavation on what needs to be done to correct that issue. And that's all I have. Thank you.

Thank you. All right. Uh, council member of reports or requests for future agenda items. We'll start with Debbie.

I have nothing to add to a future agenda and nothing to report.

So on July 2nd, I attended the ACTC meeting and a few items that came out of that. For the Amador Transportation Agency, they are no longer servicing their route through Plymouth as of August 1st. We had, I think it was one daily pass through, and during their budget and their evaluations of the routing and what was feasible to keep, Plymouth and Amador City got the axe, for lack of a better word, Due to low ridership, we have what we had one person is based on their research that regularly took the bus. So the van or whatever it is. So that was a bit of a bummer. I did try to, you know, at the meeting prior, I tried to push for them to keep it. And it just, when they came up with the number of one person, I just couldn't justify it. So I did ask them, you know, if we get more people that are interested in inquiring about using more transportation, they will consider bringing it back. So it's not gone forever. And they did say that the Dial-A-Ride program is still in effect here. So people, I think there's a criteria of, um, ability and, um, age based to get around, you can use the dialer ride. Can't use it as an Uber. Um, and the other item that came from that meeting was, uh, the pilot program they're doing for the street or the highway maintenance or, you know, re re surfacing. Um, I asked him about old sack cause they were talking about Grelich, Grelich. And I told them that old sack needed it before that road. They informed me that that's just an overlay. Old sack needs a grinding. So I, at our next meeting where we're doing our workshop for coming up the methodology for this pilot program, um, I'm going to ask them if they're going to need to train the staff on grinding. So I'm going to ask them if they can do old sack, or at least a part of it, as part of their training for the grinding process. I'm going to push real hard for that. So that and... that's all I have to report for them and future agenda items. I know it's a bit early, but Christmas is going to be here before we know it. We need to work on getting that Christmas tree spot picked out.

And lights.

And lights and all and a big star.

Decoration. I concur.

Tinsel, everything. We want the whole nine yards. You want Grinch too.

Let free tinsel. That's all I have. Thank you. I don't have any reports per se. I would like to start off. I talked to council member Cranford and. Aside from my absence, I mean, we talked about the 4th of July and, you know, wasn't this fun this net the other minus the fire, of course, but we would both like to thank city staff for their 4th of July for giving up their 4th of July rather and helping out with. everything, including cleanup on Main Street. We did receive several kudos via email that I sent to you, and then I got one in person from a fellow local business owner that this was probably the best the city has looked after a 4th of July parade, so kudos to you guys all. I would love to know Where we are with the old Shenandoah road repair? Old Shenandoah. No, sorry, old SAC. And then Andreas, the ZR landscaping contract update? Yes. I'm not done researching that. Okay. And then whatever happened to coffee with the city manager?

We have a busy council member. We talk about it every week, setting one up.

Are you free on Friday mornings? We can have coffee with the mayor.

Just throw it out there. We'll do one next Friday. There you go.

I forgot to thank all of the firefighters and police that helped on the 4th as well. I'm super impressed with how quickly they got to work out there in their presence here on Main Street. I would like to see if there's anything available as far as funding from some sort of safety bucket comes as far as Landrum is concerned. you know, we talk about grants, this, that, the other. I know we don't have a grant writer, but perhaps somebody out there, local universe, can help us with that. Because I think it is very important to have that fire safety in place.

Thank you.

I'd have to say that The biggest thing, I think that was the smoothest and the best to run the 4th of July fireworks events ever been in the years I've attended it. So that's off to everybody that was involved in that. The city manager on down, sheriff's office, Amador Fire, everyone, pretty amazing job. And a pretty amazing job they did in the morning too on that fire. So that was very impressive. We really appreciate everything they did getting on that. All the agencies involved on the fire this time. Thank you. And Stephanie says, will everybody else do it? Make it fast. You got to go.

Thank you. I'm just exercising my right to speak on an agenda item, and I wanted to comment on the city manager's report and the council report. On the city manager's report, I'd like to request that the city council consider to do... best management practices do an after action report for the fire. The city is the lead agency on that. It was within their city limits. I'd like to request that the council do some kind of town hall meeting or open forum for people to come in and talk about their experiences, the good and bad, and DENISE GLUHAN- make suggestions, because I think that fire safety is really important and it'd be a good opportunity for us to see where the gaps in service and the gaps in planning are for us to work on. DENISE GLUHAN- And then regarding the the I think I think it was council member bottom Lee that was speaking but it's hard for me to tell on the. DENISE GLUHAN- AC TC report. I don't recall them doing an unmet transit needs survey this year. I saw it last year. I didn't see it this year. I think they're supposed to assess for unmet needs before they determine that they're going to be limiting it around like that. So I'd like to know that they did meet that criteria. But the other question I have is, Quite often they lose these routes so they can put more money into roads rather than into transit. And if they're going to cancel the Plymouth transit route, I think that any additional money that went into the road fund to work on roads should then benefit the Plymouth area. And I just want to make that as a suggestion. Thank you.

Thank you. So at this time...

Can I just do a quick follow-up on that comment?

Yes, go ahead.

So, ACTC did do that report. They approved it on April 2nd of this year.

All right. Thank you. All right. So, at this time, we are going to be moving into closed session.

Public comment on closed session?

Oh, yeah. Excuse me. Thank you. Public comment on closed session item.

Anyone? Anyone?

Aaron's seeing no one. Closing public comment. And adjourning, but going into closed session, I can't see the clock. 8.33. So the council met in private session to discuss item 10.1, property negotiations with negotiators. No reportable action was taken. And we're adjourning this meeting of the Plymouth City Council at 8.50.