City Council - Regular Meeting

All right. Hello, everybody. Thank you for being here tonight for Plymouth City Council meeting Thursday, June 25th. If I get a roll call.

Council Member Bottomley, absent. Council Member Cranford, here. Council Member Dell, here. Vice Mayor Hornish, here. Mayor Nunn, here. Thank you. We have a quorum.

We all please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. Okay. So we're going to start with number two, approval of city council regular meeting agenda of June 25th, 2026. So moved.

Second. Council member Cranford. Aye. Council member Dill. Aye. Vice mayor Hornish.

Aye.

Mayor Nunn.

Aye.

Thank you. Motion passes.

All right. We're going to go to public comment for items not on the agenda at this time. Anyone could speak on anything involving the city they should speak on. We just ask that you keep it, try and keep it at three minutes. Rosemary.

Rosemary Marino-Moody, Plymouth.

I want to ask because Saturday evening my family went to Folsom and as we went past the sewer, the two sewer areas, it smelled extremely strong. It was horrid and that was about five o'clock. We came back at 9 30 and it was still just as bad and on Sunday it also did. So I'm wondering in the view of transparency that this council says are you going to tell the residents of Plymouth what happened what caused that smell because obviously something didn't happen or something went wrong in order for that smell to show up for two days thank you um

I was just going to say my daughter mentioned it as well, and I'm unaware. So I have not been told that anything happened. So I don't know either.

I had driven by there. There was something. I noticed a bit of a smell. And, of course, the city manager being gone, I hadn't talked to him yet. See what's going on. I was kind of waiting to discuss that if he knew anything.

Mr. Mayor, this is the first I'm hearing about it. So I will definitely get an answer for you and Ms. Moreno-Moody. Thank you.

So, John?

Microphone.

John Colburn, long term person. Anyway, I wanted to thank you so much for putting the signs out for the Fourth of July parade. Hopefully it's going to be a wonderful parade again this year. But we need some signage out for the fireworks also. that I haven't seen a lot on that. So it would be nice if we could get some signs out in regards to the fireworks in the evening.

What are you requesting? I'm sorry.

What's that?

What are you requesting?

That we get some more signage out for the fireworks show.

Fireworks show? Sure. Any preference on where you would put them?

Probably where they have the ones for them. for the parade in the roundabout prominent place.

All right, we'll pass it along. Thank you.

Thank you, John. Anyone else in the audience or do we have anyone on Zoom? Okay, hearing and seeing no one, we're going to go ahead and close public comment at this time. Item for presentations, proclamations and appointments is none tonight. So move to consent calendar. Any correspondence on that? I don't think there's anything. All right. Get approval of the consent calendar.

So moved.

Second.

Council Member Cranford. Aye. Councilmember Dill? Aye. Vice Mayor Hornish?

Aye.

Mayor Nunn?

Aye.

Thank you. Motion passes.

Okay. We're going to move on to item 6.1, public hearing. Excuse me. I'm so thick I can't do any of it tonight. Public hearing on water and wastewater rate, review rate study and discussion and possible action to approve resolution 2026-12, updating the water and wastewater rates. Can we start with staff report?

Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. One moment. Can you hear me okay? I believe so. Yeah. California Proposition 218 requires agencies to notify property owners and rate payers of proposed changes to utility rates and to hold a public hearing prior to implementing any increases. The purpose of this process is to ensure transparency and allow for public participation. The city has also opted to utilize the exhaustion of administrative remedies procedure pursuant to Government Code Section 53759.1. The mail notice included all information required. Water and wastewater systems are essentially services funded entirely by user rates. Periodic rate reviews and adjustments are necessary to ensure that revenues are sufficient to support operations, maintenance, and capital improvements, regulatory compliance, and long-term financial stability. The City's most recent rate study was completed in 2017 and rate adjustments were last adopted in 2011. Since that time, increases in operating costs, infrastructure needs, and regulatory requirements have impacted the city's utility funds. In partnership with city staff, MBS conducted comprehensive rate studies evaluating the city's water and wastewater enterprise funds. These studies reviewed current and projected operating expenses, capital improvement needs, reserve targets, and revenue requirements over a five-year planning period. Key factors driving the proposed rate adjustments include aging infrastructure requiring rehabilitation and replacement, inflationary increases in labor, energy, and chemical costs, state and federal regulatory mandates, the need to replenish and maintain reserve levels and debt service coverage ratios. Council has been presented with the water and wastewater rate studies, ordered the required notices to be mailed and will hold the required public hearing, including collection of protests. Objections were also solicited via the mailed notice and none were received timely. If a majority protest is not received, staff is seeking approval to adopt the rates as presented in the rate notice and rate study report previously presented. Environmental determination. This is not a project under section 15378 of the California Environmental Quality Act guidelines and approval of the rate adjustments is necessary to ensure the financial health of the city's wastewater and water utilities. Without the adjustments, the city risk falling short of funding obligations for operation and capital projects. Mailing costs and consulting support for the Proposition 218 process are included in the current contract and will be paid for from the water and wastewater enterprise funds. Staff recommends that the City Council hold a public hearing and call for any remaining protests to be submitted. Tabulate protests to determine if a majority protest exists. If no majority protest, adopt water and wastewater rates by Resolution 2026, TAC 1-2. Thank you.

Thank you. All right. At this point, well, let's go to a public comment on that.

Good evening. John Coburn again. I had the privilege of voting on this thing four times. Two of them I asked to be taken off. But I think you got a legal problem here in that the notice that I got came out as a water user. It went to my meter. And all the ones that I have seen went to the water users and the water meters. You have an ordinance in the city that requires that the obligation of the water bills has been deemed to the property owners not to use it. And that was done in order to recover water revenues when people move out and leave an abandoned bill. But what it has done is required that the property owners are the ones that are responsible entity that should have been noticed and not the the water users solely. In my case, I have two meters on my property and I only got one message for the one meter. I did turn in an objection for both meters because the family has the other meters. I have the signature of Ilya on that one. But I think what you did here is not in compliance with what your ordinances are as far as what was the entity that's responsible for the water. And it's not the user. It's by your ordinance. It's the property owners. So I'm worried about the way this has gone about in that you have noticed that If you're opposed to this, write a note to the city. You did not send a form out with it. I'm sorry, everybody was responsible for their own form. And it's almost a Ponzi game because you know the complacency of the public. Not very many people are going to vote. And so if you go, I don't know how many percentage of vote you got for it or against it, but If you get 40% against it and move forward, you're assuming that the other 60% are in favor of it. And that's not a proper assumption. If you just reverse the wording instead of opposing it, if you send a letter in to appraise it and support it, excuse me, Excuse me, excuse me. I'm sorry about that. But anyway, if they just reversed it and said, send a note in if you're in favor of it, you would have the opposite thing because of the complacency of the voting people. So I think that's a big mistake in not doing that. And the other thing is that we had, the fair has, in the summertime they have an ADU, for two months of about 250 EDUs. As far as I know, they got one vote in this thing. The same thing goes along with 49er trailer court. They have over 115 EDUs, and as far as I know, they got one vote. And to assume that the no votes mean that the ones that didn't vote are yes votes is somewhat of a Ponzi game. If I were to have 1,000 stocks that I wanted to sell out, and I sent letters out to 1,000 people, and 400 of them sent a letter back that they didn't want them, I could not assume that 600 of them did, and sold my 600 stocks and put a billion out for it. I'd be before the Federal Trades Commission.

I think we understand.

In prison.

saying, John, on that? We're quite a ways over the time. Okay.

So I think what you're doing here is correcting the housing shortage we have in town because I've talked to several seniors in our senior exercise class that love their gardens and they said when water gets $250, they're going to have to move out.

Well, thank you. Anyone else?

I just want to quote 4.3 in the packet. the NBS principal assumptions and considerations in preparing this report and the opinions and recommendations included herein. NBS has relied on several principal assumptions and considerations regarding financial matters, conditions, and events that may occur in the future. This information and these assumptions, including the city's budgets, capital improvement cost, customer's account and consumption, and information from city staff, provided by sources we believe to be reliable although nbs has not independently verified this data i mean to me you guys paid them almost a hundred thousand dollars and they didn't verify this information is appalling to me especially since when I request data from the city, half the time it's not accurate. I have to go back and ask for other things. So I know that information is not always good. The other thing that is the salaries in here on the water and sewer are so high, and yet there is no explanation of where those salaries are being allotted from. And it almost sounds like you guys are just trying to get out from under. I understand there needs to be a rate increase. I just don't agree to the 100% rate increase over five years between the two of them. And I just feel that the rate payers are basically paying for city employee payroll just to help the city to keep going. And that's not right.

Thank you. We have Stephanie Marino online.

Yes, thank you. I submitted a objection in addition to a protest. I submitted it after the June 5th deadline that was in the notice because quite honestly, I thought that was just a typo like many of the typos that appear in city notices and it should have said June 25th. Nevertheless, in spite of that, I don't think that it was legitimate to have the earlier date for objections in the notice because The city manager said the city opted to utilize the exhaustion of administrative remedies procedure pursuant to government code section 53759.1. However, the city did not opt into that. The city staff did that, but the city council did not show in its minutes that it had opted into that procedure. Therefore, I believe I'm challenging the fact that that was properly done. opted into by the city council. I did submit a four-page letter. Did you receive it?

Yes, we did. I was actually reading it a minute ago here.

Okay, I'd like to just really briefly say for the people that may not have that letter. One objection was that the administrative record does not demonstrate that all costs associated with the subject receiving program have been identified and allocated. It's unclear whether the rate study evaluated and allocated the costs associated with the increased sludge production, handling and disposal, increased equipment usage and wear, additional maintenance requirements, reduced use of life and treatment plant assets, additional...

It's the result of a lot of review and collaboration over the past close to a year, but it's not perfect, and we'll continue to be reviewing it through the Amador County Wildfire Collaborators Group, which sort of as the extension almost of the working group for this plan. We don't have a defined timeline, but word has been thrown around that after two years, it would be a good timeline to provide another official update. So within that timeframe, any other... you know, concentrations or considerations that the city of Plymouth would like to propose to be adopted can be developed and then incorporated into the plan in the future.

I appreciate that. I've been aware of the plan, you know, being in the works and process and I guess my thing is it probably everything's fine. I just feel the council has an obligation to do due diligence and really read through and see it. And I don't know how the other members feel, but with me, I haven't even had a chance to read it. So I'm kind of don't feel like, you know, me personally comfortable, you know, voting on it now. And I'd say it wouldn't be a month where we are meeting on July 9th. We'd only be looking at like two more weeks and we could, instruct city manager to put it back on for a vote that night so i don't know you have something to say

Um, I don't have a problem with postponing it, but I will also say that I thought that this report was very in depth and thorough. Um, some of it was obviously over my head as I'm not a firefighter, but, you know, regular citizen. Um, and if nothing else, I would have to have trust and the fact that these guys are the professionals and. You know, doing the real work, so thank you.

Thank you so. I guess we close public comment on this and we want to have council discussion on it. Wendy?

Whatever you want to do.

Deborah?

I've looked through it. I didn't study it in depth, but I'm kind of of the opinion of Holger that not my strong suit, but it looked to be pretty complete.

Okay. Well, you already spoke on it, so. Yeah, my thing is it's probably fine. I just want a chance to read it, and that's all I'm saying. I'm not comfortable. I don't think there's a problem with it. I just haven't had a chance to read it, and so I don't want to postpone it. Okay. I would like to postpone it to July 9th.

Did I make a mistake? We'll bring it back to the next meeting for your consideration. Okay.

And thank you, Todd.

Mayor Nunn.

My pleasure.

Can we please take a five-minute break?

Yes, definitely.

Thank you.

I counsel adjourn for five minutes here. Break for five minutes. And we're back. Item 805. Item 7.4, discussion and possible action to approve Resolution 2026-13 of the City Council of the City of Plymouth authorizing continuing appropriations and expenditures on the basis of the fiscal year 2025-2026 budget for the fiscal year 2026-2027 until the adoption of the 2026-2027 budget. City manager's report or staff report. Are they back on?

I can take this one.

All right. All right. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Sorry about that. As city staff continues to prepare the budget for fiscal year 2026, 2027, the city must ensure the continued efficient operations of the city To that end, staff has requested continuing appropriations and expenditures for fiscal year 2026-2027 on the basis of the 2025-2026 until the 2026-2027 budget can be adopted. The fiscal impact is unknown as monthly costs of operations do vary, but our recommendation is approved resolution 2026-TAC-13 authorizing continuing appropriations and expenditures for fiscal year 2026-2027 on the basis of the 2025-2026 budget until the 26-27 budget can be adopted. Thank you. Thank you.

We'll go to public comment.

Rosemary Marino-Moody, Plymouth. I just want to say, I saw the presentation online and I had talked to Cameron after the workshop about including in the packet, which they normally are supposed to do, but it hasn't been, it wasn't in last year's budget, a recap of each position, what salary they're making and then how in dollar amounts and how it is appropriated to each department. That's normally in a city's budget. So it's easier for you guys to see exactly what you're paying at each level position. And rather than going through the whole budget and adding it up in each department to find out. where that is and how it's being allocated. So rather than just the percentage of where it's being allocated, it's nice to have the amount so you guys know how much you're paying each of your person and how it's spread out throughout the budget. So I did ask him to include that last year when he was doing the budget, but he said, I'll make sure I do it next year, but I don't see it in there again. So I would appreciate just another reminder to Cameron because I did talk to him after the workshop that it would be helpful to you guys. But it also be helpful for the public to see where all those salaries are being allocated in the dollar map.

I think that last year, some of the council members have asked for that too. If Cameron wants to speak to that.

Absolutely. I didn't notice that too when this first draft was put out. And so I have been working with our finance director to make sure that subsequent drafts and our final does show that. So I'm aware of it and I'm working with Andy about it.

Thank you, Cameron. Stephanie Murillo.

Yes, Stephanie Moreno, Plymouth resident, small business owner. So the California State Constitution, Article 11, Section 10A, prohibits officers or employees from receiving additional compensation for services already rendered. In other words, the council cannot grant retroactive pay to employees. And this is confirmed by Attorney General Opinion 81-10. if Andreas wants to look that up. What jurisdictions do to avoid a constitutional challenge is they'll adopt a resolution declaring that the salaries are indefinite in order to authorize retroactive salary and benefits at a later date. The reason this is important for you now is because you're not adopting the final budget until after the first of the year. If that final budget includes any COLA, or any raises or reclassifications then that are effective July 1st, then you would be not meeting the constitutional test unless you adopt that resolution. What I'm suggesting is that you just add language into the existing resolution very easily that you're already adopting stating that the the salaries for the city are indefinite and that the city council is intending to implement retroactive changes once the budget has been finalized. It's an easy fix to avoid a constitutional challenge. Thank you.

Thank you. Anyone else? Okay. If the city manager or the city attorney wants to speak to that, they're welcome to. Otherwise, well, first I'm going to close public comment. I'm sorry on that. And as I said, if anyone wants to add to that.

I'm not aware of any COLAs being planned for July 1st. So I don't think this is an issue.

No, it's not an issue at all. We don't have any COLAs planned at this time, nor are we able to work them into the budget as we see it as right now, but we're trying.

Okay. So there's no plan, but is what she was saying that if we were doing them this year, we had to adopt it or what? Because that's a little confusing to me.

The way I understood the concern is if there were automatic coalesce that were to take effect on July 1st. There's none taking effect automatically and there's none being granted by discretionary.

That is not what I said.

Then I apologize. I misunderstood what you were saying.

May I reiterate what I said?

Yeah, if you can. That would help.

Any retroactive increases or changes to salaries, whether they're COLA or promotions or reclassifications that are intended to be retroactive, need to have this clause in your resolution in order not to have a constitutional challenge. So, for example, if you're intending on promoting your lead maintenance worker to a superintendent position in the new budget and you want to make that retroactive July 1st, it would require this clause in there. If you're planning on reclassifying someone or giving any COLAs, even if they happen in December, if the city manager asks for a compensation increase in September, retroactive to a previous state, you would be locked out of doing that unless you put this language in here. I don't know why there'd be a resistance to just putting preventive language in there to make sure that it's okay. So, yeah. And we, I just found out about this and I did it with my own agency and my district council concurred that it was required just for the record. Thank you.

I think we'd be happy to put that language in there. Yeah. If the city attorney wants to do that, I don't think we have a problem.

I'm fine with that. If Stephanie would like to put some suggested language in the comments, be happy to look at that.

Did you hear that Stephanie? Oh, she's off there now. Okay. Well, we let her know. Yeah. Is she still on?

Yes, I'm on. I'm sorry, I didn't hear what you asked me to do.

If you have some suggested language you want to drop in the comments or email to me, I'd be happy to entertain that.

Yeah, there's a resolution. I can send you the link to the resolution we adopted, if you'd like to look at that. Do you need it right this second?

Is that what you're saying? Yeah, we would need it now.

Okay, let me get it to you. There's no chat box here. So that's why, or at least I'm not seeing one. So for good reason.

Would it be considered an amendment at that point then?

We're not amending the resolution. You're still entertaining the resolution. So we'll just make a motion subject to the new language once we have it.

Okay.

We'll have to wait on that because we can't post a public comment.

I just sent it to both Andreas and Cameron.

Hasn't come through yet, but I'm refreshing my email.

Andreas, I can see the clause she's talking about.

Yeah, I actually just got the link as well. Cameron, do you have the capabilities to participate in the chat? Are you listed as host, promoted to host? Just trying to figure out the best way to get the language up on the screen for everybody to take a look at. Sure.

Oh, I'm sorry. Go for it.

Additional section towards the end of the resolution under the now there before be it resolved. It would be, let's call it section four. Salaries and benefits of all unrepresented management and other employees are declared indefinite for fiscal year 26-27, permitting the council to implement retroactive changes once the budget has been finalized.

Perfect. Okay. So I think we have all agreed that the city attorney agrees to add that under the resolution. Do we have anybody else for a public comment? No. Okay. At this time, I'll close public comment. And any council discussion, Wendy? No.

No.

No.

No.

I have one thing I just want to think sorry. I just want to thank Stephanie for bringing that to our attention.

Yes, definitely appreciate that. So, at this time, I guess I'm just looking for a motion. I motion.

I'm not going to be able to say everything, Andreas.

How about you motion to approve the resolution subject to the addition that I had read into the record? So moved. Second.

Council Member Cranford? No, slick. Okay. Council Member Dell? Aye. Vice Mayor Hornish?

Aye.

Mayor Nunn?

Aye.

Thank you. Motion passes.

Okay. At this point, we were gonna go to item eight, the city manager's report.

All right, thank you, Mr. Mayor. We have been prepping for 4th of July. Praying Fireworks is on track. We have our vendors, our entertainment. We did meet with the sheriff's office and AFPD over a safety plan. AFPD was kind enough to offer their drones to us to be flying over and looking for illegal fireworks, which we will address. We've asked the Sheriff's Office to have maximum enforcement when it comes to illegal fireworks. So we'll be putting out notices this week just to kind of remind everybody that there will be drones in the air and people will be sighted and fireworks confiscated. um we did rent out our third uh pop-up so the entire pop-up plaza is currently being rented out and um so far it seems to be a success for everybody um and it's called uh books with grace and it's cool little bookshop um and then also uh we did receive our grand jury report And we're reviewing it and working on preparing our response to the findings. Thank you.

Hey, Cameron. Thank you. Is there a fine involved for illegal fireworks?

Yes, sir. I think it's north of $1,000.

I believe it's a felony in the state to have the illegal. I'm not positive about that. Actually, we can find out right now.

Good evening Council Ashley and I fire prevention officer for amador fire and the fine starts Cameron was correct it starts at $1,000 for the first offense that would be for one firework start goes to jump sorry. jumps to $2,000 and so on and can include jail time. The initial one with the $1,000 starts in a misdemeanor and then escalates from there quite quickly. So we encourage everybody, it's not worth it. Don't do it. Stick with the safe and sane. Those are just as fun. Exactly.

I was wondering. Thank you very much, Ashley. Okay. So mayor and council member reports and council requests for future agenda items. Okay.

Okay, a couple things. This is probably a little bit of a sore subject, but I'm going to bring it up. Somebody I was speaking with that I trust a lot mentioned that the sewer trucks that we have been taking on Are driving across the levy that's out there. That is not designed to be a road. Does anyone know if that's accurate? Because this person was bringing up that that's very concerning because over time it could erode that levy costing us. In the hundreds of thousands to shore it back up. Does anyone have any information on that?

So, right. We've talked to the water board. We've gone over plans. Our current plan. Wastewater operator is comfortable with the plans, including the people that built the plant. The fees we are charging do take into consideration road maintenance and maintaining that road. But it's pretty sturdy. I mean, we've been driving our trucks on it for as long as the plant's been open. I mean, heavier trucks too, dump trucks and whatnot. So our staff is confident that the levies will be just fine.

Okay. Well, I'm just on record for bringing the issue up.

Ma'am.

And then I want to just thank everybody for coming, you know, for making public comment and for participating and sharing their opinions on all of the things tonight. I wish, truthfully, I wish we had more people that did because it helps the council, you know what the community is thinking. So I just wish more people would come. That would be awesome. And then I wanted to also kind of address my job. So When I took on the city council position, I was not employed. I was working from home full time as a small business owner and had a lot of flexibility. I then took on a position working part time for a family advocacy agency. And recently, in the last few months, I was promoted and I'm now working more than full time with that agency. I am in charge of their mobile crisis team. So I'm going to apologize in advance. Life has changed for me in the two years I've been or almost two years, though, that I've been on city council. And so me being on call is just going to be a regular event that happens for me at city council meetings. And I want to apologize in advance for that and ask for grace.

Definitely. And, you know, you need to apologize, but we'll definitely work with you on it. I'm kind of in a little bit of the same situation, not quite as bad, but I've actually a couple of the meetings I've missed is that, you know, the same thing I took, you know, this position or ran, you know, for the council and I had a different job. And shortly after getting on the council, I took a different job. So I didn't have Thursdays off all day anymore. And with the job I have now, it's we leave in the morning. You never really know what the day is going to bring. So there's been some times, you know, it happened to me a couple of weeks ago.

I have a solution for both of you.

Are you going to pay all our bills?

Pizza and donuts. Okay. Well, thank you.

No, I think we, we all understand.

I just wanted to make it known and understood. And there could even be a evenings council meetings where I end up very, very last minute, not being able to come. And so, um, unfortunately that's just, that's the name of the game.

That's life. Yeah. Um, I wanted to reiterate again the 4th of July parade that starts at 10 a.m., I want to say, downtown. Correct? I'm looking at Robert. 10 a.m. Is there a ceremony at the Veterans Park again?

I believe there is. Cameron? At Veterans Park? No. We just see the Memorial Veterans Day there. So we'll be on... Last year, I think we were opening the park.

That's why we did it on the 4th of July. I'm really looking forward for Mayor Nunn to have a speech ready. I also want to remind people that there is a booth set up off of 49, the TOT Safe and Sane Fireworks. So just steer that way. Thank you. Deborah?

i have had a pretty quiet two weeks as far as city council is concerned okay oh yeah yeah we will um jamie oh jamie was there um i'll allow stephanie marino to speak and jamie lameko if you're watching you come back on i'll let you speak

Thank you. I just wanted to address the issue that Wendy brought up about driving over the levy and the response from the city manager I don't think was adequate to mitigate that concern. Number one, the regional board doesn't assess the structural stability of the levy as far as the sewage hauler. That had nothing to do with the plan that was submitted to the state and so um, relying on the fact that they haven't said anything is, um, is not a sure thing. Um, but secondly, if staff are confident, I would hope that that staff is his city engineer because none of the Brown staff field staff have engineering degrees to determine that level. And now that it's been raised in a public meeting, you have potential liability if something were to happen by just discounting it. So I'd recommend that you have a city engineer evaluate that and report on it so that you know it's in the record that you're okay. Thank you.

Thank you. I appreciate it.

Hello. Hi.

Hi.

This is Jamie Labanko, District 5 Supervisor-Elect. That was just fun to say for the first time ever. So I actually raised my hand so that I could comment on the 4th of July activities at Veterans Park, but Cameron had all that information dialed in for you. So I took my hand back down, but we will be giving Mayor Nunn an opportunity to give a speech in November when we have our Veterans Day celebration. So you are not off the hook.

I'm pretty sure my term's expired by then, Jamie.

Oh, man. All right. Well, Holger.

Yeah, December. I'm counsel. Well, thank you. Just a couple of things to put on there. So I found out just like a day ago that we had an AFPA meeting today and I was in a work meeting, not able to attend it. And I was talking with one of the fire chiefs here in the county, and I said, nobody's sending me anything on AFPA, even though I'm supposed to be our representative for the city. And he's saying he thinks that maybe back before the city manager we have now, I think is when we voted on that. He said he doesn't think anyone from the city has sent anything to AFPA, letting him know that I'm the representative. And so he was asking me, That we have the city manager do that because apparently they're going to meet again in a month and they were asking if I'd be there. For that, so. Have city manager work on that situation. And we send something. I was just acknowledging that we'll get it taken care of for you, sir. Yes, thank you. I appreciate that. And. One thing I wanted to say as far as the 4th of July goes, talking with the city manager, he was telling me about the meeting that he had, and it sounds like there's an awful lot of people that are volunteering their time and And so forth to make this happen between, you know, city staff and the fire department. And, you know, we have deputies that volunteered to work that night. And so I just want to say, you know, this has become a really big event, people in town and in the surrounding area. And, you know, a lot of people are. given up their 4th of July to be here and make this happen for everyone. So really appreciate the fire department, the sheriff's office and city staff that are making this happen for everybody. I don't have anything to add for future items tonight because I think we need to get through the budget process. Then I'll hit you guys with a bunch of stuff. Okay. Um, Yeah, that's what we got. So we have no closed session tonight. So at this time, oh yeah, you want to talk Rosemary, come on up.

Rosemary Marino, Moody Plymouth. I just have a question. There's no closed session and you guys have been dealing with the Sutter home. So is that finalized? Is that something that's going to be brought out to the public or, I mean, it's weird that it's not continued on in closed session.

Well, if there there's, I believe just nothing for us to talk about about that right now, since the last closed session, but I'll let the city manager speak to that if you'd like.

There is no new reports and also the fact that I was not able to be present. We decided to postpone anything.

Thank you. So nobody else wants to speak on anything at this time. I think we're going to adjourn the meeting at. What? At 8.30 p.m. That's all right.