City Council - Regular Meeting

We'd like to call the order of Pleasant Grove City Council meeting today, Tuesday, September 1st, 2026. We have all council members present. We'd like to excuse Council Member Phillips. Our first item of order is we've asked Council Member Lamone for a Pledge of Allegiance. Our opening remarks will be given by Council Member Diana Anderson.

Will the audience please rise and repeat the pledge with me. I pledge allegiance to the flag, nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice.

Our dear Father in heaven, we're very grateful for the opportunity that we have to come together as Pleasant Grove residents, staff, mayor and council, and citizens. We're very grateful for this beautiful city that we live in. We're grateful for the moisture that we've received this last week. We ask that thou would please bless us that as we hear the items on the agenda that we will be inspired to make those decisions that will be best for Pleasant Grove in the long run. and we say these things in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.

Thank you, Council Member Lamone and Council Member Anderson. Approval for tonight's agenda, we know that we have item 9B has been postponed. I think it's just to a date uncertain.

Yeah, it's continued to not date certain.

Okay, so if you're here for that item on 9B for the vicinity plan, you're more than welcome to stay if you want, but it's been postponed. So with that, I'll entertain a motion to approve tonight's agenda.

Mayor, go ahead.

Mayor, make a motion that we approve tonight's meeting agenda with those changes noted.

We have a motion by Council Member Anderson. Do we have a second?

Second.

Second by Council Member Rogers. All those in favor?

Aye.

Aye. It's approved. All right. If you're here for, I think we have one public hearing tonight, item. Mayor? What? We have two public hearings. Oh, you do? We have ours. Sorry, I'm skipping the very first one on the first page. Sorry, thank you. We have two public hearings. So if you're here for those items, we ask that you wait for those items to have your comments. We'll open this time for our open session. When you come forward, just please state your name, and you'll have three minutes. Okay, seeing no one coming forward, go ahead and close our open session. We do have a few items on the consent items listed on the agenda. I'll entertain a motion for that.

Mayor, I'll make a motion that we approve tonight's consent items as listed on the agenda.

We have a motion by Council Member Rogers. Do I have a second?

Second.

Second by Council Member Lamone. All those in favor? Aye. That's unanimous, thank you. All right, it looks like we don't have any board commission committee or appointments at this time, no presentations. And we'll move to our first item 9A, public hearing. Public hearing to consider ordinance 2026-25 to adopt the Pleasant Grove Downtown Master Plan. Director Cardenas. Welcome, Director.

Perfect. Mayor Council, a year ago we had some funding from Mountainland Association of Governments that was granted to us, some money that was granted to us, with the only purpose that we can use that money to create a downtown plan, okay? So what we did is we kind of like, hire a consortium of consultants. We, in my opinion, as a planner, we got the best. We got from downtown planners, sorry, our downtown planners were the Downtown Redevelopment Services, nationally known. For architects, we get the MHDN Architects. For engineers, we got the engineers for Township and Range. And for our landscape elements, we hired Landmark Design, who was the firm that helped us with our general plan, the general plan that we adopted probably like four years ago. I don't know if you guys remember about our general plan. This plan, council and mayor, is a list of recommendations. It's a list of recommendations. We had a plan that we drafted in 2008 that it was called the Downtown 2020 Action Plan. It was drafted in 2008. 2020 happened and not a lot of it actually materialized. So the number one request that I had to our consultants was that we wanted a plan that was pragmatic, something that we could implement. Now, how are we gonna implement this plan? Well, this plan is a set of directions. It's a set of recommendations of best practices that then we as the staff and you as the city council can direct us now focus on objective 2.3 and 2.4 for the next year and then we start creating code. This plan is no code, okay? It's not that I'm gonna receive a set of plans for a development and take this plan and review it against this and make sure that they meet the code. This will eventually help us to create CITY CODE TO CREATE THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONE. ACTUALLY, AS WE READ THE PLAN, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK FOR STAFF, AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORK FOR US TO KIND OF ORGANIZE SOME DIRECTION THAT THE PLAN HAS GIVEN US. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A LIVE DOCUMENT. THIS IS LIKE A GENERAL PLAN. THIS CAN BE AMENDED. THIS CAN BE CHANGED IN THE FUTURE. BUT IT'S A GOOD BASELINE WHERE TO GO. TO PRESENT THIS PLAN, I HAVE BEN LEVENGER. He was the lead planner, one of the lead planners on this project, and I'm gonna give him the time. This is his presentation. He's gonna go over the plan. Now, before he takes the time, let me tell you that this plan is, It hogs many multiple elements of a downtown, right? It has mobility and circulation. There are 19 objectives for mobility and circulation. What can we do to improve what we have? For community placemaking, there's 12 objectives. For development approach, 17 objectives. Again, these are objectives. we need to figure out which ones are gonna be, or the ones that we wanna focus on, for example, right? This plan also contains four site-specific development assistance. met with property owners, we met with the business owners, we tried to work something that meets the code right now, but at the same time that will benefit our downtown. Like I said, these are concept plans, doesn't mean that's exactly what's gonna happen, but that was in an effort to reach out to the property owners. We realized that if the property owners don't jump into this, or the ones that we would like further development, nothing's gonna happen. At the end of the day, they're the ones that make the ball rolling. Also, at the end of the plan, there's implementation strategies. They're in a calendar, how we can reach certain goals and how to approach them, and there's some funding opportunities, okay? So this is what the plan is, just looking at from, a mile above Earth. But we're going to give a time to Ben. Ben is going to go over his presentation. And I just want to thank him for all the effort that he put him and his team on getting this plan ready.

All right.

Welcome. I'll figure it out.

As a lifelong Mac user, going to a Windows machine is never the easiest.

Scott, can we dim the lights just a little bit?

Is your mic on? Is there a green light on your mic? Okay, good.

Okay. Nice to see everybody tonight. My name is Ben Levenger. I'm the president of Downtown Redevelopment Services. We were the prime consultant that did this plan for the community. Tonight, we're not going to go through page by page. We're happy to give copies. I actually have copies. If anybody wants one, I can get them to you. But we're just going to run through them tonight and talk about the highlighted items. So when we went through the process, starting back in January, we went through a kickoff and existing conditions. We did community visioning, design charrettes, visualization, had a draft plan, and then now we're here. So through that whole way, we had quite a bit of public engagement. We had a few meetings. We actually were at Strawberry Days. I lost track of how many surveys we've had through the process, but there were quite a few of them. So what our goal was is to get the vision from the public, but to also take that and boil it down into things that the city can do to improve the downtown that also preserves the character of the community. We didn't wanna step in and say, go make all these changes that radically change what you look and feel like. We wanted something that felt like Pleasant Grove. So when we started that, we looked at your existing strengths, which was you have a historic Main Street character, which is great. You have one of the busiest downtown parks I've ever seen. It's a miracle that I don't think anybody's fallen off that wagon wheel on the jungle gym yet and got hurt. However, the kids were having fun is what I'm gonna say. You have a lot of community events, which is great. You have great strong neighborhoods and you have existing businesses. We know that that's maybe not there, but you have a great sign for that business. We actually, that was one of our favorite parts is the Rexall drug sign.

Yeah, it's still there.

I know the sign's there, but.

Oh, my daughter works there. It's still there.

I know there was some discussion about leaving during the process. Community engagement. Back in January, we had a kickoff meeting with stakeholders. Back in January through March, we had a visioning survey. Then we had a council presentation with you guys in March. Unfortunately, I wasn't here. Nathan was here in my place that time. We had a stakeholder design charrette and then a public design charrette. Then that turned into the visualization plan review, which was on the website and in the public meetings as well. We had strawberry days outreach. I can speak from experience. That was an interesting time to have a helicopter land in a baseball field. I've never seen so much dust fly around, but everybody really enjoyed it. And then we had a draft plan presentation, which was held just on the other side of that folding wall. And then final public comment, which was done online. And then we got to where we're at now. everything that's been done through this process was built on the public engagement piece we tried our darndest through utility bill inserts and qr codes and online websites and social media content and public input meetings anything we could do that short of knocking on every single door though we did knock on business owners doors in the downtown short of knocking on everybody's door in town, which would have cost a fortune, we did everything else we could within our means.

And if a business owner wasn't available when you knocked on the door, was there a notice left or anything to make sure they were

There was a little quarter sheet of paper left. Told them how to get a hold of us and I believe Daniel, you went and did some and Nathan did some and I did some and if it was Nathan or I, we left a card. Some of the business owners did reach out, some didn't. I believe the statement is you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it. That's correct. Public engagement synopsis. Three things that we looked at. Built environment and development, you had opportunities. You have vacant storefronts and properties. That's an opportunity that can be redeveloped. But your existing site constraints do increase the project costs. So when you talk about parking, you talk about access and utilities and redevelopment costs. It is a very expensive prospect to rehab a site in the downtown. you have a ways that you can improve bicycle and pedestrian connectivity. Lots of trails, lots of connectors. You're just really missing a couple of key pieces to go from the downtown to the neighborhoods. In the plan, you'll see a lot of those recommendations say this block, that block, you're missing a set of sidewalks or signage or a crosswalk in a certain location that does connect those areas. And then strengthening the downtown area through more public gathering spaces. This is probably the most evenly split recommendation out of everybody. There was a desire for green space and a desire for a plaza or a public gathering space in the downtown. People love the park, but they also wanna have a better band shell that they can have concerts at. They wanna have the beauty of the recreational assets, but they also want something where they could program a farmer's market to be in. on a concrete pad. So we struck the balance of trying to find a way to fit a plaza or just kind of a nice defined space somewhere in the downtown. It was 60-40 is what I'm gonna give you. 60% of the people said yes, 40% of the people said no, and we do live in a democratic society, so that was good. For the vision for downtown, increasing mobility and circulation, people want to be able to walk and ride their bikes to and from the downtown. On the surveys, I don't know how many times we read, I wish my kids could, and it was always, ride their bike to the park from my house, ride their bike to downtown like I used to ride my bike to downtown, have a place for kids to go in downtown during the summer when they're at home. A lot of responses focused around kids getting to and from locations. Nobody's shocked by that, but that is what it is, and it really is fixed through some nice crosswalks and some improvements. Community placemaking. People love the character of the downtown. They don't want to see that change. Interesting part when we went through this process, the character was not defined by preserving the historic buildings only. The character was defined by the height of the buildings. which was an interesting take for us. When we were asking people how tall a building could be, most people didn't dislike the new apartment building that you have in downtown with the retail mixed-use building. There are some people that didn't, but more than 75% of people thought it was okay. So I think there's some room to make some changes in your code that would allow for a little more development, which currently wouldn't help things pencil a little better. But you also need to balance that with not going too high or not doing too much of it, not being too dense. And it's about filling in strategically as you go through those areas. And then the development approach, people want a lively mixed-use downtown. Again, in the surveys, people love the recreation. They were kind of upset they had to go somewhere else to get kid-friendly food and then come back. That was the number one complaint that the park had was there wasn't a lot of dining for kids near the park for them to go dine at. I don't know, we didn't have a follow-up question with what they would like, but yeah. If you put up a Chick-fil-A right next to it, it'd be great. You'd also be very popular and you would have a traffic problem. Oh, we have a typo in the circulation goals, that's good. Mobility and circulation goals, all of these items, and we're just gonna kind of run through these. They do not really say that you're going to change circulation patterns, we're not changing anything that's major arterials. It's about designing streets and crossing of streets and accessibility for people to get to and from the downtown. Most people were in favor of bicycle improvements, just not on Main Street. Crossing it is fine. Going around it is fine. Going to the park is great. On Main Street is where they had a little bit of heartburn. So as a frame of reference. Community placemaking. People want to empower their businesses, the residents, and the organizations to attract private development to the downtown spaces. What they don't want is to see a whole block development happen at once. They want to preserve their smaller scale development. They're not really worried about the height up to about four stories. They're okay with that, but they just don't wanna see a whole block be wiped away and rebuilt. They wanna transform the park into a central civic space. Again, 60-40 on this one. There might be a little more outreach that needs to happen on this is what I'm gonna give you before you make any final decisions. Doing a band shell or a space for concerts is something that was repeatedly put in the survey.

I think what they're saying is something paved. Correct. Because we have the park. We already do concerts there. I think the request was a paved space to do that.

Correct. And so people love the park, but they also want a paved space to go with it. It's a trade off because trees are great and if you do a paved area you kinda lose the trees and then you get no shade. Like I said, this is one where you might wanna do a little more research with the people and figure out what that looks like. Because I think there is a way it can be done and maybe there's other ways than just concrete to make it work. There was a idea to prioritize infrastructure investments to unlock development. There's currently good infrastructure throughout the downtown. When we say infrastructure, one of the biggest things you have is every property seems to have their own itty-bitty little parking lot. If there's any way that you could have joint or shared lots or parking lot lease agreements where people can share, you'd be amazed how much farther those parking lots would go. And then the development approach. People want to have a primary focus on mixed use corridors. They seem to have no issues with office and apartments above. They just really want retail on the first floor. They don't want to go away from angled parking. They want to keep their angled parking. That was very strongly reported through the process. so much so that the trade-off was given to the public of if you have parallel parking and you get rid of angled parking, you get extra wide sidewalks, and that was turned down, which is why the plan didn't really keep the extra wide sidewalks. People want to have more private businesses in town. They want more places to eat. They want more places to shop. Retail's a hard thing right now. However, it can be done. The most important thing to remember is niche retail is always the best. We were just in St. Catharines, Ontario in Canada doing a project and there was an interesting situation where the building owners was one owner, husband and wife. On the left side, it was a shoe store. On the right side, it was a gun and ammo store. And the husband had the gun and ammo and the wife had the shoes and the married couples just like went and split and they both spent money and they both left. It's kind of an odd scenario, but they had whoever they worked with for the market analysis did a great job because they pegged their audience perfectly. So niche retail is where you're going to be. Right. It's kind of the trade off of if you're gonna spend money, I'm gonna spend money and that's where it ends up. In order to help with this redevelopment process, it really, it's not about cutting red tape, it's about making things more understandable or more programmed so people know what to expect. There currently are some issues with the code that talk about height versus floors, setbacks, parking requirements, things that are basically hindering them, people from building on a site that can pencil. As everybody's aware, it's very expensive to build right now. So working with them to make that happen is important. And even if you can't do something now, the plan also has recommendations for how do you do something in the interim? Do you bring in some container garden setup? Do you do something temporary until the market corrects itself and you do get developable land and projects again? You'll see some recommendations here for the rail trail. One of the primary connectors was that facility. It is probably a 10-year project to get that going, so you're gonna see a phased approach in there of just having a buffered, unpaved, unimproved walkway, then a little larger of one that gets a concrete and then a really nice separated one with bike lane and a walking area. It's gonna take a lot of effort and coordination, but I think with some help from MAG and everybody else, you can get that done. As far as the downtown recommendations, There's all these items that flow through here. The number one is gateway signage. Nobody knows where the downtown's really at. They just keep driving by it. They keep driving by it. They'll come here for strawberry days and go, oh yeah, there is one there. But they don't really have a gateway. You don't have a gateway in a town on the north or south side. This is probably your lowest barrier of entry to make people know where you're at. And then I will open up the questions and I can get the, I brought three copies. I didn't know how many copies to bring. So I brought three copies. Does anybody want one? Give me a second.

And then we can get the rest later.

Didn't we already send this?

I think.

Oh, look at you. Okay. All right. Okay.

It's in the 4, 529 pages. Do you have a nice, do you have a comfortable chair they can sit down?

We can share, we can share.

It's kind of funny, as planners, we're in a landscape architect, I go, save the trees, save the trees, and what do we do? Kill the trees.

Council, do you have any questions before I open this up to the public? Okay. Daniel, do you have anything else to add? Okay. This is a public hearing, so we're going to go ahead and open the public hearing. If you do come forward, just please state your name and you'll have three minutes. Thank you. Okay. Welcome.

Hi, thank you. Shawna Mecham with MAG. Though I enjoy being in Pleasant Grove, I don't live here. But I just wanted to say how much I appreciate you all going through this process. I enjoyed the community aspect, the outreach, seeing you all work together at council work sessions was very fun. And I commend Daniel and all of you who got this off the ground and applied to MAG to do this project. And I just wanted to say thank you for letting us work with you.

Go MAG, there we go. Thank you, anyone else? Okay, Denise. You still have to announce your name, Denise, sorry.

Denise Trickler. I'm here as a resident concerned about our historic downtown. And I just would, I love, I do like a lot of the things in the plan, but I really, really want to preserve Main Street. That's two blocks. Preserve the historic. Do whatever you want anywhere else. That's my plea for you. Anyway, thank you.

Thank you, Denise. Anyone else? That was a slow stand, but I'm glad you're coming up. Here we go. Welcome.

Thank you. My name is Ben Felix. I actually live on Main Street. I have for the past three years in one of the mixed-use buildings. So I'm also an architect and a professor at UVU, very passionate about traditional urbanism and architecture. And so I'm also very concerned about historic buildings since I truly don't believe that we do better architecture today than we used to. I think that that's kind of where my biggest concern is, is just to make sure that as we're adding buildings to this downtown that we actually try to add value, and that the buildings actually don't just hearken to our character, but that they really try to capture that character. I have a family. My kids walk to school. I take the bus to work. We're very walkable. I personally would love to see parallel parking and wider sidewalks because I don't care about the parking. I live here and this is, you know, I just want it to be more walkable for my family. But I understand that to get here. I actually love strawberry days when they close it off and make it completely pedestrian. I would love it to be pedestrian always and just let it be pedestrian only. But I know that that has its own problems. I will say I'm highly in favor of downtown development. I really want to see more shops, more mixed-use buildings, more houses, more just lively downtown foot traffic and local businesses and things. I also am happy about the fact that we are preserving our historic buildings. I don't know necessarily that the buildings across the street from me are worth preserving, personally. I don't know how old they all are. I love most of the buildings around there, especially on the corner there with the historic bank and the Rexall. Oh, sorry, go ahead. But the other buildings are really quite an eyesore, and I think that that really could use some renovation there. So those are just my thoughts. Love to see some work going into downtown as soon as possible.

Thank you. Anyone else?

I'll be fast. My name is Drew Armstrong, and my partner Matthew and I just got done building the new building that's on Main Street at 67 South Main. I appreciate the process that we've been through to go ahead and get this developed, the downtown plan put together and reworked and re-looked at. I've gone through it a little bit myself, and I appreciate a lot of it. I am a little concerned about whether or not, and I'm not certain whether or not we're gonna continue to follow the guidelines that were set forth in the Downtown 2020 Action Plan back in 2008, and I hope we still keep a lot of that in mind. because I think the way the buildings look is really really important to keeping the spirit of our downtown so it feels historic and old we've had a couple of really interesting experiences the fire marshal we have a contracted fire marshal that's helping our fire marshal with the inspections downtown he wandered into the building and he said My partner Matthew was in there and he's like, well, so what do you think? And he's like, well, for an old building, I've never seen one that meets all the fire code as well as this one does. And he says, well, we just finished it in October. And he said, well, you did a really good job remodeling this. And that is exactly what we are looking for. Because we want people to feel like this is part of, this has been here forever, and this is part of our community, and it reinforces that feel of the old downtown. I also want to point out that the new retail space that's built out by the car wash, by Tag and Go, the retail space there is going for literally double what we get per square foot, and it's expensive for us to develop in the downtown. and we've got four million dollars worth of equity in that building and it barely cash flows so it's hard and it's been a passion project for us um so it it is difficult to to make these things pencil for anybody who's building right now we're going to continue to try to do that and we want to build more in the downtown but we're going to have to think about it hard as to how we can make it work better so anyhow thanks thank you anyone else

Okay, seeing no one else come up, we'll go ahead and close the public hearing at this time and bring it back up here to the council. City Council, do you have any other further questions for staff?

I have a question for Daniel. I just wanted to make sure, and maybe you can speak to this, because something that Drew said that reminded me, and that was this is not going to eliminate any of our current design standards that we have for the downtown area. No.

So like I say, this is going to give us guidelines if we would like to do something different. And you guys can tell me. We already have a city code for downtown, and part of the city code is called the downtown guidelines. Again, all the documents that we have in our city are living documents. We already have something that says that all the architecture has to be turn of the 20th century. Now, if we want to make some changes, something like that, staff is always open to receive direction. But at this point, the code has not changed. The code stays the same. The design standards stay the same. OK, again, if, for example, you guys can find a recommendation right there that says that they need to be updated or something like that, then you guys, we can start working on it in a couple of years or a year or six months, whenever I say it's time to look at them. At this point, they're already there and that's what we're going to use in order to review a new project.

Yeah, I just wanted to make that clear that this master plan is not, and you've said it multiple times, it's clear to I think us, but I wanna make sure it's clear in the public meeting that we are not changing code. These are guidelines and points of maybe some recommendations and things like that that can help guide us as we seek to revitalize parts of our downtown area.

Yeah, yeah, that's exactly correct. Again, you guys gonna find some recommendations that there are general but applicable, but that's what I hope to receive some direction from the city council where they tell me, again, focus on 3.2 and then I'll draft some code that has to go through a public hearing that will say the specifics, the specifics of how that objective can be met.

I think part of what we'll do as staff is we'll review this and come back with some recommendations to the council if there's things the council wants to give us and put to let us know. Because what I'd like to do is probably by the time we, next year when we meet on our annual planning and budget, I'd like to have a list of recommendations with funding. We would make this part of our budget so that we not only have a plan, but a way to fund the plan. So that's what I would like to do as staff, but if there's things specifically that you're looking at as a city council, just let us know. I think we have this master plan now. I wanna put it into action, and we as staff can figure out a way to put that into action.

Council, anything else? With that said, I'll entertain a motion for Ordinance 2026-25.

Mayor, I will make a motion that we adopt Ordinance 2026-25 to adopt the Pleasant Grove Downtown Master Plan.

We have a motion by Council Member Rogers, do we have a second? Second. Second by Council Member Anderson, okay. This will be a roll call vote. Council Member Anderson?

Yes.

Council Member Rogers? Yes. Council Member Lamone? Yes. Council Member Williams?

Yes. Okay, unanimous, thank you.

Okay, again, item number 9B has been continued indefinitely, so if you're here for that, like I said, it's been continued. We'll move on to item 9C, a public hearing to consider ordinance 2026-27 to adopt the updated stormwater management plan, SWMP, updating and including the new standard operating procedures, adding new appendices and other necessary changes, and this is how it's listed, Public Works Operator Baylor Hatch. Let's go Baylor.

Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good to be with you. So for this, we are required by the State of Utah with our MS4 permit, it's our stormwater permit that we conduct annual review of our stormwater management plan. With that review, we need to update as necessary. This year is a little bit different. We renewed our permit with the State of Utah. With that, they updated their permit. So most of the changes that we did in the stormwater management plan reflect the changes to their permit. Neil emailed you guys and attached a document and has some of the notable changes within the plan. So yeah, that's basically it, just the annual update. So.

Great, thank you. Any questions for Baylor?

You better hurry because he's walking, he's walking. No go.

Okay, this is a public hearing, so we'll go ahead and open the public hearing. If you come forward, just state your name and you'll have three minutes. All right, seeing no comment, we'll bring it back up here to the council. Any further discussion? If not, I'll entertain a motion.

I make the motion that we adopt ordinance 2026-27 to adopt the updated stormwater management plan, updating, including new standard operating procedures, adding new appendices and other necessary changes.

We have a motion by Council Member Lamone. Do I have a second?

Second.

Second by Council Member Rogers. This will be a roll call vote. Council Member Williams. Yes. Council Member Lamone. Yes. Council Member Rogers. Yes. And Council Member Anderson.

Yes. And I apologize. I need to leave for a family wedding. So I apologize.

We'll excuse Council Member Lamone. Okay, moving on to action items. Ready for a vote. Action item number 10A, to consider approval commercial site plan for commercial building located approximately 224 South Pleasant Grove Boulevard in the Grove commercial cell zone with the boulevard mixed use overlay. Director Cardenas, welcome back.

Fantastic. Mayor and what's left of council, this is being a long awaited project. It's for a site plan for a commercial building located on 100 South, on the corner of 100 South, and Placent Grove Boulevard. Okay, here's doTERRA, these are the new apartments that are being built, and we're talking about this corner right here. Our applicant is Kartik Patel, and again, he's proposing a commercial site plan for RETAIL BUILDINGS, OKAY? LET'S KEEP IN MIND, AND THIS WAS MENTIONED AT PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO PUT IT IN RECORD, THAT THE BUSINESSES CAN GO RIGHT THERE THAT NEED TO BE SELF-TAX GENERATING USES. RETAIL RESTAURANTS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY HAVE TO BE SELF-TAX GENERATING USES. THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING. THAT'S WHAT THE BUILDING IS BEING PROPOSED FOR, OKAY? SO THIS AREA IS IN THE GROWTH COMMERCIAL SELL ZONE. but there's an overlay, the Boulevard Mixed Use Overlay. That's why this area could have some residential right there. But again, we're requiring at least 25,000 square feet of retail uses. Now, this site plan, it's about, let me pull it out right here, and we can take a look at the building. The building is gonna be right here. So it's in the corner, and it's facing 100 south. The square footage of this is about 6,000, approximately 6,500 square feet, okay? The way it's being proposed right now is for five different units. You can see one, two, three, four, five. Now, can that change? That for sure can change with the tenant improvement. Could be only three businesses right there, some of them using a couple more of those rectangles. But again, the square footage of the building is 6,500 approximately. This is not the only retail use or retail building that will be in the area. Again, we need to reach out that 25,000. As the As the residential building is being constructed, right now they're constructing about 4,000 square feet of retail. Okay, so 4,000 plus this 6,000, we're getting that right there at 10,000. There's more paths that eventually will have to be built, and again, only for self-tax generating uses. The parking for this, and we had a, a requirement in the code where we ask the parking, commercial parking to be along the boulevard. So that's how it is right now. Once it's built and if there's some changes that we would like to do, we can for sure amend that in the future. But right now, that's where the parking is. This area, sorry, this building by itself has 32 parking stalls dedicated for the retail uses for this building, okay? We calculated a worst case scenario or we calculated based on the use that requires the most parking which is restaurants in a restaurant we're going to require one parking stall uh for three and a half seats and we have we're making some calculations right there so we went uh we were requiring the the maximum number of parking stalls that we could possibly have so they're providing for 32. okay um this is kind of like an aerial view of the entire site you guys can see right here the The residential buildings, there's, like I say, 4,000, 3,800 of retail uses right here. This is the building that we're discussing today, okay? We still have one extra path right here across the street, and two paths right here that are awaiting for. But in the meantime, I wanna welcome our new tenants. They're gonna, I mean, this is the site plan approval after this, then they gotta submit for a building permit, and it's not that I'm skeptical, but I'm always, I'll celebrate until the building is complete, right? But in the meantime, we also wanna welcome our applicants and thank them for trusting the city and coming to be here with us. I think this is gonna be, it's a perfect, area for retail. It's a very prominent corner within our city. I brought this to the Planning Commission and also to the Design Review Board. This is the type of materials that they're gonna do. Let me see, I have a better picture right here of how the buildings are gonna look. they're gonna be something like this, okay? So that's the type of builds that we're gonna get in that corner. We can see the different views from different angles. We make emphasis on the use of glass so we can see through it.

So what is the back, which one is? Okay, so if you're on the corner, let's say you're on the corner of... Well, you're looking west. Yeah, if you're looking west. Right here. OK, what does that back of that building look like?

The bottom left, I think, is the one that faces. So right here, I have a, let me see. I'll show you right here, because I put them on there. There you go. So this is if you're on the north in the northeast side facing one hundred south. So from one hundred south, you're going to see these two big doors right here. The frontage of these buildings are going to be toward the apartments right there. That's what they're trying to attract the clientele to come from right there. But also we work on the back to make sure that there's not just a flat area. That was a concern. Yeah, so we work on that one, and like I say, we even require some big glass doors and materials, and there's a differentiation of that, so we can still keep the good looking of the area, we can say it like that.

Okay.

Okay.

Any other questions?

Sorry. Oh, you have more? Yeah, well, I just want to say that I brought this to the Design Review Board because they do an important job. Usually, we don't talk a lot about the Design Review Board, but these are the guys that look at the palette, the color palette. They're the ones that look at the materials. They make recommendations, and they do that faithfully. I present this to the Planning Commission as well, and I receive a unanimous recommendation of approval.

Great. I know the applicants here, they don't have to speak if they don't want to, but It's up to you. Welcome.

Good evening, City Council. My name is Karthik Patel, and I'm going to be developing in this area for the retail. Yeah, we have been working hard over last couple of months, right? And it has been really like a city has been really helpful on lots of recommendations and we have been really inclined to get what city wants really, because that's what the people would want here. So thank you so much for considering our request. Great.

Thank you. Welcome. Yep. I cancel any other questions. If not, I'll entertain a motion. This is high pressure.

Mayor, I'll make a motion that we approve the commercial site plan for a commercial building located at approximately 224 South Pleasant Grove Boulevard in the Grove Commercial Sales Zone with the boulevard mixed use overlay. Thank you.

We have a motion by Councilmember Rogers. Do we have a second? Second. Second by Councilmember Anderson. All those in favor?

Aye.

Ms. Adams, thank you. Okay, we'll move on to our last action item, 10B, to consider resolution 2026-41, authorizing the mayor to sign an interlocal cooperation agreement with Alpine School District for the school resource officers' services. Welcome, Tina.

Thank you, Mayor. Mayor and Council, you have before you a long-awaited interlocal agreement for school resource officer services. We had a very old one that was signed back in 1998, I believe. 1900? And so we have been working on getting a new one. Quite frankly, the issue prior to this was the amount of reimbursement that we were gonna receive for the services of our SRO officers. This major difference in the obligations is that we will now be receiving more money for full-time officers, $54,847 per year. The Alpine School District will be reimbursing us for each full-time officer that we have in the junior high and high school. Currently we have a full-time officer, Officer Ruiz, at the high school, and we have another full-time officer, I believe it's Officer Kirkham, in the junior high. And my understanding is that the junior high officer also handles some of the elementary school programs as well. There are some obligations connected to this agreement that the police department will be responsible for. I've spoken with the chief. He's aware of the obligations, and we do stand ready, willing, and able to do that. Most of the obligations have to do with training and abiding by certain due process requirements for dealing with juveniles in criminal behavior versus breaking school rules and policies. Do you have any questions?

Council?

I just, so I don't know if you can speak to this, but when the school districts split, will this same agreement be adopted by Temp and August or will we need to negotiate a new one?

My anticipation is that they will just keep this agreement in place and then it expires and has a rolling renewal period. And if we need to be renegotiating with the Timpanogos School District, we can do that. But my understanding is that these types of agreements will just be absorbed by the school district that it affects, so.

Thank you. All right, because it's a resolution, I'll entertain a motion on Resolution 2026-41.

Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve and adopt Resolution 2026-041, authorizing the mayor to sign an interlocal cooperation agreement with the Alpine School District for school resource officer services.

We have a motion by Council Member Williams. Do I have a second?

Second.

Second by Council Member Anderson. And this will be a roll call vote. Council Member Anderson? Yes. Council Member Rogers? Yes. And Council Member Williams?

Yes. Okay.

All right, unanimous. All right, that concludes our action items for tonight. I guess we can move back into work session. Chief, do you have anything for us? Yeah, you get to represent fire too apparently tonight.

Glasses.

Left them. Mayor has some.

I have, if you need some. All right, I can enlarge the screen. Mayor and council, good evening. Just throughout this evening, I've heard a few comments of things that happened in the city. I'm going to bring just a little more information to those. When we talked about the Murdoch Canal and where it crosses the major roads, 5th North, 1100 North, 2nd South, we haven't had just close calls. We've had collisions, autos and bicycles just in the last month. We've had bicycles and pedestrian collisions on the trail from cyclists going too fast, and then they collide with pedestrians and injuries occurring. You talked about traffic accidents. I hear you talking, Councilman Rogers, about streetlights and others in areas that are dark. Generally, most of the accident reports you'll read them see the causes of. In August alone, we had 58 traffic accidents. It means 58 victims, 58 or more. Vehicles damage thousands and thousands of dollars, injuries, trips to the hospital, and so there's a lot of them. And some of those, the safeguards are in place. You have lights, stop signs, crosswalks, and then the human factor, which most of these are caused by inattentive drivers. I read the one you're talking about. Read the causes for that and things like that so sometimes even our best efforts to make these roads With all the safe features that are out there and all of them are expensive The human factor says you still got to get that driver to look Forward out the window not at his phone and not out the side window and not in the back seat as they're going forward so there's a lot of commonalities and their Their problems your police department's keeping busy 15 DUIs in August Domestic violence is steady. You've had, just by way of numbers, and these are fairly consistent month to month, 77 arrests that covered a number of 166 criminal offenses, 156 citations, which means you probably had triple that in traffic stops. So we give a generous amount of warnings on our traffic stops. But those citations cover 246 violations, just under 800 police reports. Those are numbers stay consistent month to month. So your officer out there working hard, trying to make our streets safe. Now with school back in session and our agreements and our commitments to the schools are that we will have a visual presence at the schools from having lunch with the first graders and kindergartners all the way up to the high schools and the junior highs. So that when the police show up, it's not just because there's a problem where they're just to interact and have a conversation. A presence that we can be contacted and interact with the students. So we're committed to that To addressing all the needs we want our schools to be Safe, we want our kids to be safe as they travel to and from school. There are some concerns spectrum Academy Lincoln these high volume traffic numbers has our attention and we try to evaluate those things to find out the best way to handle traffic traffic flow the amount of traffic and and A lot of people present ideas. I still get a weekly call of people that want speed bumps on their street. Not too many streets in the city that haven't been requested for speed bumps. That's not going to happen, but their requests are out there. We're trying to be vigilant. We're moving our speed trailer all over the city to see if that'll have an effect. And I like where we're going. We're doing backgrounds on four potential new hires at this moment. I hope to extend some job offers to some full-timers here within the next week or two. Your police department's in good shape. I have some great officers out there. Great officers. And even the message is clear even from Sunday. from Nephi all the way up here, and we feel the effects that even happen in Nephi. We sent an officer down there to assist in that investigation. It can happen any time, any place, anywhere, right? And so we're training, training this week on firearms. I've got to keep these officers trained and ready to handle anything that comes before them. The emails I get aren't maybe as, well, I don't know. Neil, I don't read your emails, but mine are anti-flock, anti-police, anti-oppressors or whatever else like that. But there's a lot of them that appreciate what we're doing. I like what we're doing. That's why I've been doing this for 40 years. I'm passionate about having a safe city and our officers doing a good job and providing good service to the citizens. And if there's a problem, we'll fix it. So that's where we are. I like what we're doing. And our team did golf pretty well, Mayor.

They did.

They did. Thank you.

Mayor, I just have one comment for Chief Brown. You know, there's been a lot of public comment on flock hammers. And whenever I'm asked, I kind of share the same thing. We've heard the stories that have saved lives and have brought loved ones back home and have found the bad guys and found cars and we've been on that side of endorsing and helping to pay for flock cameras. It was a 5-0 vote. I think it's still a 5-0 vote. We endorse the use of flock cameras because they save lives. and they keep our community safer. So thanks for all you're doing, thanks for your leadership.

I appreciate that, and we also support penalizing those that would abuse such a tool.

And we talked about that in length as well with you.

So we are very comfortable as a city that it's the right direction for the city to use slot cameras. I hope, well, yeah, we've used them on some high profile stuff and they've been successful and as have many places across the country. So anyway, thank you. Thank you, Chief. And we'll see you on the 9th.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right. I almost forgot, thank you. Fire is not here, so we'll just move on to discussion and review of September 15th meeting. Scott, do you have anything yet?

Yeah, we have a few things for our work session. We're gonna have a report on the swimming pool numbers regarding closing an hour early, and we said we'd get you some analysis on what that meant to the city. So we'll have that. We're also gonna reengage in our discussion specific to secondary water rates. So again, this will be work session, so we'll have some numbers to present to you for some feedback. And then on our council meeting, we have a lease agreement that we need to do. Our PG Cares coalition with the county, we need to update that agreement. We have the potential bid award on the pavilion out by the library. And then we're working on a leave policy, parental leave, so paternity and maternity leave, that is a benefit that cities are, when I started 26 years ago, that wasn't necessarily a thing. But now it is something that most cities are offering, so we're putting together a policy to recommend for the city council. And then, yeah, Reminder Heritage Festival, September 14th, I put that, I sent you a calendar appointment for that.

And I think you already sent out, I think we have a couple of ribbon cuttings coming up in the city. Yes. I'll have her follow up and make sure we get those out.

Okay, yeah, I did send some.

You did? Yeah. Okay, all right. We'll move up here. Council Member Rogers, you have anything?

Yeah, I just wanna say, I would have the unique opportunity of being very involved in the downtown plan. And I think that it's awesome how passionate people are in our city about the downtown area. And I'm excited for the plan. I'm excited. to make sure that as we move forward we are good stewards of the history of Pleasant Grove which makes it a wonderful place to be and really fascinating to live here and but also to try and pump some revitalization in an area that is kind of a gem in Utah County with regard to its kind of off the beaten path, but accessible from that beaten path. So I really appreciated MAG and having their program where we could get some really, really talented consultants to come in and evaluate our city and give us some really actionable points. So I'm really excited about the prospect of kind of over the next few years implementing some of these things. I think one of the things, Scott, I don't know if we have an update on whether or not we were recommended by the state to the federal government to be an opportunity zone.

Yeah, we have not heard back yet on that.

Yeah, I talked to the guy who is over the Governor's Council for Economic Development in the state, made our pitch, and he said if we are not going to be in consideration, he would let me know. And he has not let me know that we're not in consideration. So maybe I'll stick my paralegal on them to try and get an update. But I think that there's some funding opportunities and some other things that I think Pleasant Grove will, I don't wanna say materially change, but will will proceed to have an economic center downtown while preserving the history. And so I'm really excited about that. But that's all. I think that, like I said, Pleasant Grove is in a great spot. That way, and I think we just got such good advice from such top of the line consultants. So I think I just really appreciate the county having that program available to us, because I think it's kind of created some buzz for a lot of the business owners and land owners down there, property owners, so.

That's great. Thank you.

Yes, just very quickly, first of all, thank you, staff. Just looking over the chief's report, the 15 DUIs is just heartbreaking to me that people now, you just kind of hope that that tobacco use is down. You just hope that drinking and driving would just go down. And so it just, I don't know, just makes me sad that people are still drinking and driving. Also, it is very, very nice to have a plan And it is also, there's a lot of people that can sit on and look at what they would hope would happen and dream about what they hope would happen. But there are a couple people here in the room who have literally right here, right now, spent a lot of money to make something happen. And I am very grateful for that. I don't know if you guys have been in the Rogers and Russell building, but it's beautiful. It's very well done. It is. Thanks, Diana. And Drew, thank you. $4 million. Yes. That's actually putting your money where you're, you know, It's a whole lot different than putting down a dollar than talking about it. So I'm just very grateful for the beautification of what has happened on Main. Yes, I would love all the old buildings to be beautiful and I would love there to be shops in every building. Is Matt here? Oh, Matt, I didn't even see you. Thank you, Matt.

um flinders for those of you that don't know anyway thank you armstrong flinders thank you uh councilmember williams no just to echo everything that's been said great okay um with that said um chief was right we uh we successfully defended well we didn't defend we we took over the title is that correct took it from lehigh uh the city versus city golf tournament so with lehigh american that just makes me so proud

Why? Because your name's not on it.

I know. I happen to not be there.

That was a personal jab, by the way. JT is carving names.

I was weeping.

We'll see you on the 9th.

Yes. Okay, I think I just need a motion to adjourn. So moved. We have a motion by Council Member Williams. Second. Second by Council Member Rogers. All those in favor? Aye.