Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Welcome t Mar 2 City Pla Planning and Zonin Commissi meeting Meeti t order a 6:0 p If you al plea rise an joi me the Pledge of Allegiance I pledg allegian to the flag o the United States of One And to th Republi f which i stands O natio und God indivisibl wit liber a justic for all Thank you than you Got b ech tonigh Working on it A righ Comments of public interest Comment o publi interest Thi portion of th meeting is all up three minute p speaker wit 3 tota minutes o ite o interest o concern and n o items th are o t curre agenda. Th Plannin and Zonin Commission m n discu thes items but m respond wi factual o polic informatio T Planning an Zoni Commissio m choose place t ite on futur agenda T presidi offic ma modif the tim as deem necessary Do have an registered speakers tonight d not Conse agend Consen agenda wi b act up in on motion an contain items that a routi and typicall noncontroversia Items ma b remov from th agen f individua consideratio b commissioners or staff M Bel a discussed in t preliminary meeting, I jus want to make no of item B correctio to th proje number shou b PS 202 Das 025 Tha you Commissi would lik t remove an it from th conse

agenda Commissione Lingenfelter I'm going t jus move that. We appro the consen agenda wi t revis numb tha staff h jus pointe out Oka Commissione Bronsk secon A right Just mak note, w d hav Commission Ton a A absent rig now Commissione Tong may b joini us late Okay. We have motion and a second Please vote Motio passes 6 to Right Items f individu consideration Items fo individua consideration. Publ heari items unles instruct otherwise by th chai Speakers will calle in the ord registrations a received Applicant a limited total o 15 minutes presentatio tim with five minu rebutta i needed Remaini speaker a limited 3 tot minutes o testimon tim wit three minutes assigne p speaker Th presidi offic m modi the times a deeme necessar Administrativ consideration ite must approved i they me city developmen regulations Legislativ considerati items are mor discretiona except constrained by leg considerations N publi hearin items. Th Presidi Office wil permi limit publ comme f items on th agenda n posted fo publi hearing. T Presiding Offic wi establi tim limit base tim limit based upo th number of speak request leng of th agend a t insu meeti efficiency, and ma inclu a tot tim limit Can yo rea ite one A and on B together, pleas Agenda it numbe o request t rezo 14. acr o lan out t j Butle Surve

Abstract numbe 4 Located on the wes side Los Rio Boulevar 1 Nor Merrima Driv in th cit o Plano, Coll Count Texas from planne development 1 estat development singl famil residenc sev table November 17th 202 a February 2n 2026 Applica i Meado Baptis Church. Thi ite i fo legislati consideration Agen ite number on Meadow Bro additio block A throug a Meado Bapti Chur additio blo one, lo on throu 5 Singl famil residenc sev lot t comm are lots, and religiou facilit on on l 27. acres Locat at th northwes corner L Rio Boulevar a Merrima Drive Zone plann developme 1 Esta Developme Tab November 17t 2025 an February 2nd 202 Applicant again i Meado Bapti Churc Th item f administrativ consideration pendin Agend item numbe o before you get starte just want t mak note that Commissioner Ton h joined us. S thank you A righ Pleas proceed Tha you. Goo evening commissioner Desti woods planner with t plannin department S shown o t screen is th reque area fo th zonin cas A t nex fe slides ar going t show th associate concept pla S th request w initially brought to th Planning and Zoni Commissio o November 17th 202 But t reque h change b sin the So th previou zonin reque was rezone th subje propert Singl Famil residen s. And th updated zonin request is t rezon t subje proper t Singl Famil Residenc sev a shown o the

char on th scree a the previously t conce pla propos 5 single fami detach residenti lot I proposed those lot rangi from S aroun 6000ft to 13,000ft a then also ha residenti lots alon t wester propert lin Now, th conce pla i proposi residenti lot a those lo ran fro 7400ft to 9600ft A it' going t hav screeni wall an n lot alon t weste propert lin sin t November 17 Planning a Zoning Commissio meetin where t Commissio requeste that th applica me with th surroundi proper owner t applica ha indicat that ther h been series in-pers meetings pho calls email wi bot the ran estat a Ston Hollo homeowner associations a well the homeowners along tha western property lin S t existin pl developme stipulation restri t l siz fro tw acr minimum o the restri t lot to t acr minimum. And i asser fen desi standar a the correspo t t ran estat deed restriction So staf find that th reque t rezo 14. acres o o t curren 1 acr distric wil have n adver impac on th

distri because t remaini properties will remai i conformanc with th existin zoni and t fen restrictio liste i t pla Developmen stipulation a intended t maintain th character of th Ran Estat subdivisio and t subje proper i not part tha subdivisio T surrounding la use inclu singl famil residenc detache lot rangin from tw acr t 6000 square foot acr o 6000 square foot lots. Excus m And the institutiona institution la use a to th immedia nort south a eas A those ar religio facilitie an publi schoo A then th surroundi zoning a m of estat development S seven nine a six S thi request compatible with t residentia single sing fami detache lot being proposed S t subje property i designate i o neighborhoods on th futur la u m a meets a o th applicabl policie set by th Comprehensive Pla S staf d recei o signe lett i suppo fro within th subje propert and tha sa lette w count withi th 200 foo buffe a the onl sign lette her There A ci wid W receive 7 responses o Frida February 27t 7 i suppo and on i oppositio We di receiv handful o respons after th deadline, a tho

we provided t commissio So t summarize t request is to rezon t subje propert fr P 1 Estat Developme Single Fami Residen seve, and th conce pla propos 5 singl famil detach residenti lot Ite on A i recommended f approval a submitted Ite one i recommended f approva subject Cit Counc approval Approva o thi zoni cas a I availab fo questions T applicant i al her with th presentatio An questions o staff Commissioner Brons Mis Woods, go j today Again Thank yo A qui questio o t response How d t did w simp updat t respons that wer fro last time o did w hav respons tha were t negativ las tim that are longe s W onl includ respons receive after the new zonin case w post wit t n S sev reques S tha sta date that w start receiving includin responses i February 2n So that where all o t now relevan responses a counte from. D y recal what t numbers wer from th previo cas befor belie it w aroun 6 in th 6 rang a negativ total And th the were few Actually I have i O 2nd M n break apart Can ask a question abo numbers because I hav them from last tim I was here W the will be a opportunity for the citizen to speak duri publi hearing if you'd lik If you're if you'r scheduled to speak, yo can

bring it u The. On secon Let me O it' fine, I apologiz just was curiou Okay Actuall don't hav tha number b the a quite few. A then there wa als petiti that wa signed well Oka W can g tha informatio from you if you get chance before we're don I'd love to he it. Thank you. That all, Miss Wood. Tha you. O questio fro m I there an requireme i o co f screeni betwe residentia when we wer going fr estat t singl famil 7 or 9 o whatever, is there an requirement for screening there There's not o separatio setbac anything of tha nature N There n requirement scree residentia distric from othe residenti districts Okay A right. Any other question of staff Yea M Bell jus have t information Th presentatio fro t Novemb meeti indicat fiv letter i support 62 opposition, tot o 6 Tha yo A oth questions o staf Nobod Oka Thank y very much. thi w hav som speakers. Let me ope the publ hearing Publi hearing think w have th applica he with th presentation. Is th correct M Douglas, yo introdu yourself and address fo t recor pleas Go evening J Dougl Douglas propertie addre 2 09K Aven here Plano Tha you ve muc First o all, than you for putting u with us on th tabling because we real had us a chan to to work wit the homeowners. I fe like we've made lot o progress Unfortunately it'

ha t rea 100 agreement, bu I fee lik we' we' come a lon way on i We' go t sli you see up ther Now, this o lates layou where sho t nine lots minimu 9000 square foo lot along th wes sid and t ea sid We ha t 7000 fo lot i the cente Y yo ask abo t t fencing an t setback The are n requir setbacks wi discussion with th homeowner This is ho w arriv a thi th separatio We've g 20 fo setback Excuse me. On t west sid plus th right o wa o t roa Then you' go setba on th oth side fo t houses. The o of th big reasons, those t big reasons for i is one i und thei ordinance the have 100 from structure before the bui she o barn So we'v giv the 85f Plus they ha 25 fo setback. S tha giv the ten fe o wiggle room, yo might say mak sur S that' w hav tha throu discussions. They ask f masonr bri wal W agree that. A that's wh was i yo package Sin then th discussion h changed t where wou d a ornamenta met fenc a lin t property li on th west with som ceda trees. There's a l of existi trees S to fi in th gaps and where ther aren't trees will agr t pla ced trees, which wil give screen year rou a b mor attractive than bri wal will Plu they talk about in t summertim T heat th wal doe get hot They've go animals So therefor that h we reac this. A it w upo the suggestio th HOA wil maintain al of th are It give them little mor security, little mo sense o securit You've got a doubl fence T t ends, th north a sou e

will b fenced an a locked wi gates It'll b gat so we c get in there maintain the area T also yo can s from the layout, there no houses that ba up the And als hav minim 9000 fo lot alo L Rios. So when y dri by or look it, it gives i that feeling, but ye gives us chanc to pi up a few more lots there Thi do mat t are o service All ci services ha bee verified There adequat wate sewer schools. I kn there' been a lot discussion on on t schools with schoo closing b unde t t informati from th schoo whi believe t lett from the school i in your packet, tha there i sufficie capacit in th school Thi zonin is al i compliance wit t futur lan us pla And feel li you know it, i i sufficien because you' got mixture o zoning in this are from S s al the way u t sta developmen Als I belie yo got lette fro t Sto Holl H that ta about y know, they' g the want t st S nin You kno everything that should t minimu Sto hollo is no al 9000 fo lot There almo hal 242 o them ar zone f S seven and the we developed a S sev lot there's n 100 S nin That's w thi thi match wi Sto Hollo Merrima escort S six Als thi wil on t lette I'v kno f quite lon time. I'v been doin business in th cit a long tim He's alwa bee fa a upfro and appreciate t lette that

wrote. I indicated tha we ha bee working tha sever ou optio a serve t reques T one excuse me the on request tha he ha in ther A that' why I'v written letter to t homeowne of commitmen t hono thi As fa a you kno l maximum t t 9000 fo lot S sev lot t landscaping, t masonry I me t ornamenta met fence al of thes items I'v als agre not t com bac t t with i a lat date. Y know, tr to ge a SF seven In fac t conce pla that's t nex item. I that ca be part of th zoning, I'l agree tha or whateve agreement. That' w I'll say it i a public forum. S it's on the recor I mean, this my word. I've do a lot of busine in Plano. We've nev played games with yo guys. So so therefore I want to mak sure it's clear th we're not coming bac to asking for mor They've worked with u and we apprecia i And like I sai I do appreciat peopl recognizin i I there any othe questions tha y m have or if c reserve som ti after t publi heari to address a concern o questions, I'll gla t A righ have couple o question Y sai tha t comm space, which presume on thi drawi is the area show in green. Is tha correct? Between th roadw and t whatev screeni is th y agree with? Yes, si That' correct. You said that' be maintained by th HOA? Ye You' referri t a H specifical f Meadowbrook not th curre HOA That correc I will ha i o HO which wil als maintain the gre are alo L Rio to Oka so this will a separate HOA o just these lo that take care that maintenance. Oka A the go throug you mat again wit me on t 1 foo setback because looks like to you've got 20 foo buffe a 50 foo right o way. That's 7

pl a 15 foot buildin line. That 8 Yeah. Where the othe 15f Com fro the sid yard Here's examp her You' got t 20ft ope spac Y g the rig o way You've got t pavemen the othe right o w a t sit setbac 15f fro for t houses Thi examp sho you th 85f Yea That' still showin 85. That' m questio Is t 1 o t curre landowner sid Is that t othe 15 fo f the setback No F them build shed barn, th have to b 100 from a structure Oka S th wou that woul b 15 fo setba on their side o the property line, whi would make them th 100ft. Yes. G it Okay. S tha honors the setback. They ca build rig to the setba line. That correct. And still b 100ft from your neare structure That i correct Got i Now I understand okay. Because didn't I didn't wa t restri them fr doi something th they' entitle d G i Oka A right. Thos are m two questions Commission Brounof Tha you, M Chairma Do understand tha t ornamenta fence wi t cedar tre replac t wal Yes. And wi b place a t easte side o t ope space I show that ther t ornamenta meta fence Yes, si And therefor there wil not b masonr wal We' have th ceda tre ove there Oka Asid fro Sto Hollow an whatever t oth developme wa could y characterize th stat o agreement o disagreeme n fro t residents ran estates t th wes This fro Ranch Estate We've we' I've talked t t H president o Ston Hollo If th would

li t mee He ha met. He primaril gon t t ran estate He's me wit the a cumulative. They' giv m letters an requests what th would lik A we' copi t chairma t president all t paperwork an w volunteered t meet wi them. But they cho not t Well are the on boar with th n proposal or not? don' don't kno I do kn fr their lette tha they're saying you kno they want nothin les tha s becau they want preserv t s zoning. Well unfortunately they hav seven lot als Yeah. Okay All right Tha you M Bender Tha you T screenin wal that yo referr t is ther a plan fo irrigatio o tha are Ye sir Yeah. B for t grass and for t cedar trees Than you Commissione Lingenfelter expec I I kn y h answered a lot of questions, but i in yo answering yo said th thi th n ornamenta fen I assu are y still continuin continuing to make it eig foot. I tha tha i correct Th oth thing i y y said it w going to be o the eastern sid o tha 20 foot Wa that mista o did y me wes meant the eas ea side t ope space So it going t go alo t t right way lin inste of th propert line. That correc S t H would b maintaining o on th outside of the fence, no o the inside of th fence essentiall And that' why we'l have gat a t sou en for t for t maintenan peop to ge in ther to mo inste o inste o rig away landsca fen o it's no right o w fen landscap and ope space Wel that's what I'm sayin Open

space. Yea Oka A that wa reque o t landowner that next i to mo t ornamental The wanted it over aw from them. Ye sir Because there existin tre ther too And w didn't wa to disturb a existin trees. wanted leave them al intact So wh are you How Since. Sin it's no part of ou packe This this ornament fence Y spo about th landscapi a trees How ho often How d we kn where you're putting tho trees? Eve 20f Eve wha Wh what is t plan fo t screenin of th Cedars? Abo 20 apart Becau the gro ou Oka And they' reall us for the areas tha don't have any existin trees or if there' gap between tho existi tre because w don want the t hav them comfortabl with a nic y know screen ther tha sta gree yea rou and gives the so buffering. And that's why mov t t wroug iron, mean th met fen o which agai it give the anothe 20f o buffe whi keep peopl from goin over ther next their fen or looking ove the i security standpoint Oka Commissione Bronsk S M Douglas mor of comment tha questio want t s tha you franknes a wel a you earnes desir t wor wit t homeowners that ar her thin speak volumes You commitment t n comin bac fo futur situations. I thi lot of ou citizen fee tha peop g zoning, a then they come ba wanting chang an changes A s t hea t efforts th you'v gon throug a wel a t see t difference in th numbe o

think, spe volumes hav no rea t render decisio yet, but jus wanted commen tha Thank you apprecia you effor as developer as we a a goo citize Okay. Tha you T mo follow questions M Dougla T fence a landscape. As you hea when I aske staff we as t Plannin and Zoning Commissio canno require tha you'v committed tha H is th bei memorialized Well, I'v g wrote lette t t homeowne that that need b c send th to you the want to add tha to the package my verb commitmen righ here recor Wel think th point i w can require that. I kno so I jus wa volunteering. wanted make sure that yo had were workin something out with the neighbor to memoriali tha Ye this voluntarily And th d hav lette itemizing I thin it' t point that we through Oka A the last a o las meeting ther w a least o neighbo There may have bee t that we concern abo drainag about yo potential you development potential blocki drainag Yes. How ha y dealt with that issue Well, the drainag the i ci easemen f t drainage th we ha t maintai i existi easemen because t city numbe of year a went i a clean t dit ba o t handle th wat becaus o ditch a ran estate So th wat flo i an again, we'r goi t turn ou gradi pla into th city, an they' goi t review it. They'r not going to l us dump wat ove o the And that that's another thing th gives us th 20f plus the righ o way to mak sur drain awa fro the into ou sto system. G i Oka Which which again t question came u whe we ha hom backin up i tha tha would ha bee harder t contro But n that we'v opened that al u that won' be a issue now Goo point

Okay Tha you Commissione Loll And t letter th w go som citizen had som concer abo t emergency, an probably it f t staff Have w contacted t police an emergency Do they hav t capaci t respond All t plans ar provided polic an fir during the pla review, and they ha no concer Oka Than you All right A oth questions of t applicant Nobody M Douglas, thank you ve much. Sti around. W may have more f you later. Thank yo sir. All righ d believe we hav a number of speake registered. It' been brough to my attention tha several of y'all wou like to combine yo time. And so that's your inten please come t microphone an say tha you' tha you'r combini your tim S we kno which peop on ou lis hav combin their tim togethe so can b respectfu of t proces S if you wa t call speakers a i you a one o the ones that ar exceeding your time somebody else, if you' come to the microphon and just tell that we appreciate i All right. Who's first? Our first speake is Scott Fenton, followe by Ra Parker, and then followe b Brian Eple Please stat your na a address. For th record my na i Docto Sco Fenton reside 401 Kit Mead Drive Hello commissioners, and thank y for yo service wasn' born Eas Plano but I g her ju a soon could I deep vested in t Eas Pla communit I'v bee a enthusiast resident Eas Plan for t pas 3 years servin as th pasto o Meadow Bapti Churc My thre children ha gone Ea Sid schools fro gra scho throu middl schoo t hi schoo all thr graduati fro Plano Eas

Seni Hig Schoo A m fiv grandchildren ar following i thei steps M wife retire teach fro Pla Independen Schoo Distric and wa teach of th year one of o Eas sid schools wher s develop outstandi an awa winni speech an theate teams I'v served as th chaplai of th Plano Eas footba tea a for t pas te years I'v serve as chaplain f t Pla Polic and Fi departments assisti ou fir responder Thi servic hel Pla familie from a backgrounds religions an ethniciti t dea with th mos traumat crisi imaginable T unexpecte deat of lov one I'v been eyewitness a participa in t growt o o Eas Pla community ov t pas quarter century whe w relocated our churc fro Eas 14t Stre bac i 200 L Rio de ended at t hig schoo I wa one o the fir homeowne o t Sto Hollo neighborhood, and I've liv there fo t pas 2 years As residen of Ea Plano I proud o businesse o restaurants, o schools and th neighborhoo that have be develop out o t agricultur landscape o o past lov o Eas Sid prid a especiall t cro jewe o Pla Parks a Recreati syste O 8 acr Poin O Poi Natur Preserv Rece yea in Ea Plano howeve hav seen th closing maj chain lik T thu an schoo closures du t declinin enrollmen T realit i w nee mor families mor homes mor

children mor neighborhoo to ke o Eas Pla schoo a business vibra a stron devot Eas Pla citiz an origina membe o Sto Hollow urge yo t vot y fo thi rezonin whi believe wi attra families an creat n neighborhoo that will b o gre benef o East Plan community Thank yo ver muc Thank you Mr Fento O nex speak i Ra Parke followe b Bri Epley, followe by John Marlo Plea state you nam a address for the record M name R Parke live 210 Lo Rio a here Plano had th pleasur o residin in th sam hou f 3 years. wi and a both of o boy we dul elementar Armstro Midd Schoo William Hig School a Pla Eas attendee Ver pro of th Ea sid W mov her because t the. was very les bus loc communi neighb neighborhood th we we moved int. M Fento spok There's bee som change There's bee a l of good changes, bu there's been some b changes, yo kno and don wan t make th poi again th h mad But we ne more schoo and w need mo peopl her Recentl Plan Independe Schoo Distri announc thi summer having to de with multi-millio dolla shortfa revenue looki a mor

scho closure And would pu t you that school closur i terribl blow to neighborhood becau schoo is t lifeblood o neighborhood. It's t entit th peopl c conne aroun of th u befor you, thin tha going t singl fami hom u on th proper makes t mos sen propert that' sitti vaca now a let turn in neighborhoo tha has prid a c become pa o th Pla Eas neighborhoo and part of t Pla Eas Seni Hig support Tha you Than you, Mr. Parker Nex we ha Bri Epley followed Jo Marlow an the Joh Jacobsen Goo evening. I' Bria Epley live 432 Pegg Lan i Creeksi Estates Go eveni commissioners I' only live here for th la fiv years W moved m fami her from fr Illinoi looke f housi from fa south a Richardso a the way up t McKinne W look fro Wylie ove t Fris and w cho Plano We like o n community We ha go neighbors o childre o new go friends W like th schools, t par distric t churches, th businesse It' it a fantastic. love al love to b able to g t th parad for t hig schoo and see th turnout of th communit Peopl tha don't ha the kid i schoo are stil there for t parad supporti u It's be hard mov b thi communi h do everything can t mak eas f us transition,

an we' ver we're ver hap fo the But w do ha room to gro know th Pla I need students. My younges son hi middl schoo Armstrong wa close las yea He' currently McMillen Hi School, bu he wa supposed to be transferr to Williams High Scho because of th redistrictin We' done what can t keep him there, but it's it' had to be o us. We would li it so that families have to g through that upheaval. Wit more school closures Businesses ar alway looking for mor customers T city cou benefit fro t expand pool taxpayers I woul like give more families t opportunity t experience wha m family ha experience her in Eas Plan so urge yo to approve the zon chang Tha you Than you, Mr. Eppley Next Jo Marlo followe b Joh Jacobson followed Phil Langle Goo evening. nam is Joh Marlo live 3801 Atwo Lan Plano Texas I a th president o t Sto Holl HOA W represe 6 home Ove the pas sever months we' h fou maj op meeting thi being o the large topic i there hav als looke a a numbe thing includi t elementary schoo closing Dule specificall i 202 f Pi announc tha anyon within t mil n longer wa eligible f bussing Therefore th great increased o traffi flo nea Hicke throughout o communities We'v h sever childre almo h wit automobiles We've ha to get th polic involv because again, th traffi increas Likewis we'v h 80 to 1 student

fr Forman du to tha closure get dump into th Hicke Elementa syste A that' basicall close dow o maj Coldwate Cre durin schoo hour becau o t traffic jams T Pis h h forecast anoth 1 decli in the enrollmen numbers over t nex t years a therefor tha forecas mor scho closing And w anticipa great traff issu i relationshi t t comment ma tha Sto Hollo ha S seven a S nin That absolutel tru W als ha s progressi phases that t developer use W moved from dense populatio populo are to little bi spre o int S nin We foun that b mor conduci fo bot individua priva a well a quality o livin As fa a space givin people th opportunity to liv harmoniously Therefore we have ove the pas fou yea fo each t thr developments that hav touch Ston Hollo maintai that th lot siz shoul b S nin and that t maj contentio of ou board T excus me, litt little hors today t furthe development i tha ar put tas o not onl ou polic departmen b als emergenc service parking As example w have bo sid of t stree bei used the evenin a parking. We've ha numerou cas whe EMT and fi departmen have no be abl t g t emergen call The onl requirement th we' askin is th the lo siz b conduci with wh we'v maintaine for t pas

fo yea a S nin Thank yo for you time, appreciat that Thank you, Mr. Marlow Ne i Joh Jacobso followed Phi Langley followe b Gabriell Piano Goo evening. nam i Joh Jacobso live a 391 Ridgeto Lan abou 200ft fro t weste bounda of thi development I'm 4 yea Pla residen and 3 yea owner o thi proper o Ridgeto Estates Se a lot o chang I'v see wh nothing to th nor of existe There w n houses, hay just ha field I als like t corre M Douglas i sayi tha Ran Estat onl ha t plus ac lot o i an haven't own a thr ac lot W came t are becaus w lik t opennes th fact th you cou hav horses lar animals y could have workshop in yo backyard T elephant in t room f me i thi Thi propos development i sti to dense I you look the curren zonin you c hav abou s t acr lot o 73 fo tho 1 acres a the you'd hav t all som o th spa f roads Now on th oth han w start out wi 5 lot Las Novembe We move t needl ever slightly t 5 lot N you'r

hearin tha oka may w want minim o s lot sa minimum o s lot and maximu o 3 lot You'r adjace t edito zonin Tha transition, i y loo h be don very we on th north si o ridgeto a well Merriman t sou o Ranch Estates T other thi conside i there bee t rece zonin cas that th ci worke again hig densit residential One w th adjacen propert t the Th property unde consideratio whi is th Morm churc The wanted buil s o s house o on lot tha they were going to sell T cit sai n now it's a o acr lot and y couldn tell that i wasn't part of th origina zonin. Adjacent to t Mormo churc is montessor schoo The wanted t p small lot on th propert T city sa n and no they ar large lot So thi it's onl fair thos development tha y consid tha thi are needs b large lots. I needs to a open space I fit with th are i doesn't A as far the schoo a concerne t Lav Far development is going t hav 16 uni i i and tha should bring in mo student fo Pis If yo c wrap it up fo us. Yeah. I don Oka Thank you. Thank y very much Mr. Jacobson Nex is Ph Langle followed Gabriel Naranjo a Chr Meyer Thank

yo thank you Good evening everyone. Appreciat your tim Apprecia everythin you a do. It a chance for m to wear a sui So I was ki of excited about that I too, like previous speaker, moved her from downstate Illinois almos 30 years. Name an your address? Oh, I' so sorry. Phi Langley 39 2 Ran Estat Circl Plan So mov here a littl ov 30 years ago M father wa a sma town banker H na w Bil Bob. hav brothers that ar named Bill and Bob So when I mov to Texas, I f right in. I w super happy. I lov this place. Really lov Plano I'm I jus want t clarify couple things that I heard her I made some note the surrounding are I fact, Joh jus sai there's mor propertie that ar mor tha t acres I fact the thr adjacen properties t t propose property tha we're talking abou tod are all ove thr acre Okay. So just want to clarif that. And as fa as the setback, tha wasn't voluntar setback That' sewe easemen So it i convenient to say, hey we talked to th community. We decided move it back 20ft Couldn't do anything wit that 20ft anyway. S I just want t clarify that. And th I looked at t t rewri of th comprehensive plan today A there' guidi princip 1.6 proactive seeki community input Well that's th surve that wa online. A so a o today t majority Plan responden oppos i An eve despite t flurr o rece i fav o 8 of th respondent that li in th ZIP cod are sti against thi plan. An that was as o about 1 p. today So I just wan to clarify those fact for everybody. My opini we shouldn't be her for thr reason Numbe one thi i inconsistent with th comprehensive pla Numbe two th massi leapfrog of thr zoni distric i inconsiste with th curre zoni tha cal f SF t transitione from esta development than int urb districts. B mor importantly in m opinion this pu neighbor a odd becau S seve a eve SF ni a

urba estat developme isn't let m just re what sa f urb residen shoul be to quot t cit code, b protecte fro excessi noise illumination odor, a visua clutte Well, i you've ev been to a ranch I don't think I' ever seen an electr tractor. I've never see a horse use toilet, and I can get my dogs stop barking after 10:0 They just don't know right? immediately y ha neighbo again neighbo wi competi zonin right And that' going to put at odd What' t rea reason I thi we're here? It's abou mone talked to t goo pastor Aweso guy ask him why was doi thi a it was rai money for the church I think that's fantasti And bless their hearts are going to ma a ton of mon off of this. was great investment. Go for them and hope they put i to good use. B then I went t the developer and said, why aren't y following the code it is today a the transition? He sai well, I can't ma enough money, can't ma enough money. Now h wants to go different zoning, right believe the next speak is going to yie her time. If could a her So reall come down mon i this even And you kno loo kn everyon wants t d t righ thi her b just pu puttin neighbo at od wit ea oth before yo eve brea groun o they mo i is just don' think, healthy for th community Right A s if c interrupt you jus one minute, you'l l Mis Naranj com to th m and ju ced her tim to yo if that's what she' like to d if y cou introduce yoursel and yo address a the tell you intention. M name Gabrie Naranjo resid i 25 Ell Cou in We Plano and yield m time to my husban Philip Langley. Thank yo very much If you notice, actually ha t residen Plano Neither of th are for rent. love Plano. We li in the central. W live in the East So wanted commend as well y kno

Commission Bronsky, yo sai Mr. Douglas w forthrigh a wa seemed to b accommodating with u a believe h h tried b B everything sa i l service t this point. I don know the man. I' like to trust him but why don't just put him the test? I aske this committee to reje this proposal, ask hi to go back a do a planned developmen for all of th things he says he' going to do, an more an agreement, pu it in a plann development and then bri it back, because think there'll be accommodatio But today it's jus a promise. In fac he one time tol me, hey, let's jus hope people don't compla about your dogs. An I said, with al due respect, hope not a plan. Ha them put it i a plan. Reject thi current proposal and th we'll come back a another time and I sure everything will amenable then. So tha you for your time Thank you for listening Appreciate what you do Thank you, Mr. Langley A the nex speake i Chr Meyer follow b Kyl Duchain Goo evenin Chr Meyer 380 Merrim Drive I'm t curre presiden of th Ranch Estat Homeowne Association Everythi that Ph h said, have talk about man times, th las speak a t resident o 6 residents o th Ranch estat a i comple agreement wit everything that he ha sai W feel a thoug tha i t i we g fro estat developme si lot t S nin S seven any a small i certainl n wha t resident o Eas Plano h moved the for We move the because reall enjoyed the op spaces, t parks t larg lot t standard livi that we ha tha all of th provide S a that yo vot n again thi thi

change A thi tha esta developme structure there wou b would b conduciv a go wo rig alongside with wh i currently ther now a wha th t city ha originall planne Tha you Tha you, Mr. Meye The las speak is Carl Duchain Hello m name Kyl Duchain liv a 39 Rid T Lan and share property line with th landowne Considerati f rezoning A someone w spoke f month ago, wanted start again by sayi thank you for th opportunity to share perspective. I'd also lik to thank the othe members of th communit who are here a willing to express the views Al thi support sho w o smal L Rio are community s great M propert i particul shares ov 500ft o proper lin with th are propos f rezonin There are f point that ar ver important fo me that I would like t board to take int consideratio a estat developmen distric a uniq and the remov o that zonin designati could ha unintende consequence i both the size an the the us M fir conce relat to m propert right regardi structur within esta development districts A addition buildin constructed m propert must located li mention before, a lea 100ft fr a dwellin on adjoinin propert t develope have be worki with Wit u t provi a adequa buffe However, would like t understan wha addition assurances legall bindi protectio can put i pla t ensure th th buffe will no b reduc otherwi compromised i t future M secon conce

pertai to propert right wi respect t livestock Based on t acreage o o lots propert owner a permitted kee livesto animals. H can w ensure th the ne residents will acknowledge an respect these rights a wel M las concern i lin with mu o the othe communi membe aroun densit Plano Comprehensi Comprehensiv Pla lists as it firs priority fo neighborhood t goal preser neighborhoo character an quali o lif and that is th intention t preserve an enhance the use and t regulate t design n residentia infil products be withi t conte of th surroundin environment When thinking abo m estat developmen right how doe th infil desig preserve enhanc the a wha wil th do to th neighborhood' quality lif Bas on some of t points that I hav brough up, thank you Thank yo M Duchaine. Do you ha an other speaker Okay, w di hav someone tha registered but a a attende only, lik t know if h can speak at th meeting. they'r registere the yes, shoul l the speak A righ s Cory Rennaker Good evenin commissioners just want t make a fe remarks on this request Name and address, please Mr. Riker ♪Cory Rik, 1814. An pla 75074 Thank yo I jus want make a few brie remarks on this request It's clear to m tha the t applicant ha done lot o outreach a buildin consens arou somethi lik thi and chang i obviously challeng I'd like say tha I suppor thi request and hope that y y do to Reviewing th prior version of

th pla somewha disappointed that it' gon fro from mo unit dow to le units As yo kno w a desperately i ne o o housi i Plano and hav declini schoo populati a schoo closing I'm b concern about t op spa are and t propos screeni wal I appear to tha thi i placing burde o the futu homeowner who a n even in th roo of cost th they will ultimately hav to bea maintenan a a thos ongoi costs i perpetui throu the HOA An it seems me it's just matter of inequit S aside fr that, hope that y wil support the request a presented modifie Tha you. Thank you M Riker Anyone els N Oka I'll close the publi hearing a restrict comment to th commissi commissioners T spea And w on th agend Timoth Richard Well, han o I' sorry That' that' old Just a secon M Timot Richar i registere to spea for item o. a a opini only As suppo only, b no registere t speak Oka Mr. Richards, would y like to spea Okay, l m reopen th publ heari the A pleas please come forwar I sorry for th confusion but d receive confirmatio ema that registered speak s Go evening. nam i T Richards. reside 430 Pegg Lan i Plano which i part of th Creeksi Estat Number t additio O neighborho i jus sou Plano Ea Senio Hig It'

bounde b L Rio Boulevard to t wes Par Bouleva t th south S whe m famil move her i Februar o 199 th Merrima famil far w between o neighborhoo a Plano Ea Senio Hig a als th Sto Hollo additio did no exist. There we n houses north of Pla Eas Senio Hig an Par Bouleva end at th creek, a it di not turn int Bets Road going int Murph becaus there w n bridge at th tim S t s that I have see a lot of chang in these Plano sin 199 i a accura stateme. Fo referenc purposes. recentl retire from th tit insuranc busines aft 4 years tha industr als ho activ Tex rea estat sale license Continu licens sin 198 Just fo background m wif Cindy a move o famil to Ea Pla 199 becau we li t smal tow feel Pla and fo the schoo distric bot of o childre went Doole Elementary Armstro Middl School, which as yo know, n long exist William Hig School a graduat fro Pla Ea Senio Hig S we' deep roote a lov Eas Plan When th Merrima Far fami far w sol as homeowne in th adjoini neighborhood w ver concerned about what woul b what would be do wit the land and wha kind of houses woul be constructed on tha property T zonin petition tha tim w S six whi al concern m because those a small lot And i ou neighborhoo well, t sa develop that ha petitioned for thi zonin change Dougl Propertie

develope tha neighborhoo And tur out the bui extremel nic homes A the have, m opinion great enhanced t val of ou adjoinin neighborhoo Considering a of th oth zoni chang categories th could ha bee request, reta o multifamily etc trul fee thi is t bes intere of o sma o Plan A s respectfull request that t Commissio approv this zoni chang reques I kno tha sever of ou concern citizens ha come o thi eveni to show thei stron support for t rezoni effor and would ju lik the t sta to sh thei support, if you don mind Thank y for you tim Thank you, Mr. Richard Oka no I'll close t publi hearin a restric comments t commissio Commissione Tong Tha you M Chairma An jus want s that than y a s muc f bei here I reall impress havi so ma peopl livin i Plan for s lon a comin here t participate i thi t gi you opinion a share yo thought a love t ci and giv u som feedbac an hel u do ou job So apprecia that. appreciat that I jus have questio to ou staff, guess regardi th setback becau i i w we goi t approve the zoni changes i the a langua in th zonin itself say hey the has t b

th muc setback so that t neighbor will no suffe a like mor restriction abo ho how f the have bui away fro t building that t future the canno build mo buildin close to the property lin Are y sorry Are yo referri t setba fr t residenti or fr th ran estates t t n property o just an setback all Tha 85f setba from th property li t the n developmen buildin s tha th neighbo wil doesn hav bui 100 from thei proper lin if th bui closer I n sur Mik c yo M Bel can you answe that questio Sur Thi request for straight single famil residence sev zoning So thos restriction are no required. The a voluntar tha t t applican i proposing b they're not will not b requir by th zoning approved. I order t do thos kind o standards, you would ne to have it part of a planne development. And this ha not been noticed fo a planned development case And so there's n a way to pu those standards on thi current request tonigh Tha you than you M Bruno Thank you Mr Chairma First of all, want to thank everybo for coming out tonig and speaking to u I was impressed wit the quality of t of the of th presentations on bot sid of th issue I see bun of people o bot sides of this issu committed to their neighborhood to their home to t Eas Pla and the city Plano I'm als impress with t applicant w has, believ made significa effo t reach o to th

neighbor and t modif h proposal t addre a many of th concern as wa human possible He ha reduced t number o lot tha he wa proposing build b 16% fro down 50. Wel A wel as percentag of 5 i probably a little less. I sorry, but anywa it's doub digit He's ma significan concessio there. h reconfigure t dri lane in th development s th the i not onl i the direc stree connectio betwee thi propert a ran estate b t t westernmos dri lan provide part of th setba fro hom built t subje propert separati the from ranc estate to th wes He ha propos an attracti ornament fen wit cedar tree t provi a additiona visual a attractiv visua screenin barri separating th neighborhoods B think th applicati creates t opportunit f peopl t b home This a applicati fo singl famil detache home I provide applicati fo o opportunity f new hom ownershi s tha people ca develo pri a pri i owni hom whi is part o the America dream Pri in neighborho and brand n neighborhood o which the can be par Pri in Ea Plano An these a goo thing don' kno o a any w i whic home 7000 square fo l i inherentl damagin

poisonous, o contaminati t larg lots th may b in th adjace development provide that thi development i sufficie size. A this on is. This i n a spot zonin situatio We're n talki or 2 lot We' talking a whole development I kno m ow hom i on s lot It's abou 7800 square foo lot I thin my ho i attractive. thin my neighborhood i attractive think t hom ar desirable T members o th commissio know th i pa lif m family and used to live the city of Irvin and I served o the planning and Zoni Commission in Irving wh I was there a rememb wel tha t chairman of the Plannin and Zonin Commission at tha tim a gentleman by t name of Jack Spurlock who was a rea estate broker remarki tha eve ho in 6000 square foo zone l can b desirab home 6000 square foo hom can desirable certain a home on 7000 square foo lot A bigg home ca b desirable An hom today t marke bein what i on 7000 square foot lo can also ve desirable, ve attractiv an ass to th communi a an asset t t cit S Considerin carefully t arguments bot sides I inclined t believe that th application is, o balance a good thing a I'm prepared to vo to approve it. Than you Commission Bronsky Miss woul coupl coupl question based on so o the feedback we've bee getting Firs T H bearing t

co f t screeni wal that fairl standar for t wa tha we about the things. Is that correct That' correc A citizen kno when they're looki a a purchasing the hom tha thos requirement a bui i Righ The t HOA h fee They'r tol about tha before th purchase, am right The may tol perhaps Oka So th secon questio h and don't kn if you kept trac Mr Disda broug up coupl proper right issue that I just wan to kind o talk abou for secon a i relat t livestoc would the b a could ther b a conflic betwee thi particula zoning th we' talki abo and hi propert a f a h ability maintai whateve livestock has o tha property thi that woul b addresse wit t propert standards and buildin inspections departments if th mig hav som or wi the code o ordinance if ther i a ordinan regardi smel and h f away it needs b So wou defer t thos documents So are you th sayin there i possibilit tha there cou b probl f someo livin i thes a M Disdain livestoc ability haven review t impac of don believ sme of yo know an livestoc S can answe ve directly tha questio bu You kno t t cod o ordinanc does hav requirements A regardi

smel o any o tho extenuating things th y mentione M Bell, do yo have anything add N Those that a administere as mi woul suggest, no through t zoning ordinance. They'r administered through oth ordinances o the city and othe departments. So that's no something that is o o expertis t answe directl But can onl surmise by the fa that there are sing family residences abutting th nor tha i if those ar no creating th sam issues, th there wou not be the sa issues for thes lots as well Oka From legal And legal questio f staff Yeah. w need executive sessi or is it somethi you can ask open sessio prefer as i Oka Well th let let' finis questio fro t commission and see i there's anything else tha comes up. And may need to tak a quick thank yo Miss Wood Okay. Commission Langfelde I going to hav questio f staf and f t applica i th applica wouldn't mi comi u Fir questio i just t kind o clari for f everybod her as well u Th i this zonin reques S they' provided si plan. The provide a this I tha a the stu to th sit pla o c the adju i based o t zonin Th c adjust thei concept pl if they lik t T zoni doe n requi them buil what' presented on th concep plan. S ultimatel wh I getti a i the th present a nic pla for all b ultimatel t reques i straigh zonin Th c adjus tha whi

mean the who buffe thi th we' gon all thi tim fo talki abo thi fence that we've bee talking about, all th stuff Technically th c get o of it A base on lon as they me th zonin That' correct Okay So no t applicant Yes si S you g what I' getting at? Ye sir We ha abili t hold yo t tha But P would Did y discu this P optio where i woul hold you a site pla li this a hold yo t the th landsca buffers a hold yo to all tho thing So it'd be actuall written int the zonin Whe we firs started, w talke abo that wi staff b the determine th sit w s sma tha i real wasn' O course was befo we knew we wa going to run in all these issues als So the suggest n to PD jus because i w it wa smal and know mea we' got th lette we' g all th anythin tha y that yo wa fro u t t assure yo th we' devel per t concep pla T oth ite th w broug u abo t odor t noi we' als committed t lette t include th i t H document tha prohibit th homeowne fro complaini abou noise odors A als it can be i the bylaw S I mean we' tri t addre everything that they th w ca wit the So mea as far eve that. S aga encompas som ideas o may attorney o something o what can w include documen o whatever? I mean, we' d i becaus again it's not lar subdivision. I mean, it' going

to be do in obviously on phas It' build o in probably fou yea a today rates. Y kno ten 1 lot year i typically y know, i take u rig now startin toda we' probabl 2 2 months for t fir l will rea for house A then they got t build a house. we're two years awa right n and they'l probably take, you know 30 months o s to, t se out And s it's ju a very sho process. B again mean are w are going t develo mea per t concept plan, mea we'll be coming righ back in for wit a plat an whateve whateve commitment w hav t do wi do Becau believe m I'v done too muc busines i Pla offi right dow t stree Thes 5 lots aren wor messing wi m reputation. mean, would never d I'v been doing thi busines f 4 year A y see, g int That's m that's goal to wha s I'l d Yeah. I' just I' trying to thi o understan peopl tha don know y o don haven't had th experienc in th resident in yo neighborhood. An total understand, totall understan S I gue nex questio and m have to go int closed sessio i wh can w d on our e s w can talk about tha later? Yeah, we c talk about that i a minute. Commissioner Bende Anyone els Sta close Thank yo All right sir thank you Ju bri questio Staff screenin wal wheth it' concre o iro o steel whatever Aft constructed th cit maintains tha Correc No. T screeni wal that's bei proposed woul not be maintained b t cit It woul b maintaine by th HOA That correct Tha you Okay,

I' got couple questions Back t t questio about t adjace landowner right wit with thi 100 foo separation, understan that's iss fo construction a addition structure o the o the neighbors t existin neighbors propert wit tha deal wit hopeful a far a livestoc oth uses tha property I anything goin t chan for t curre estat owners a f a the the proper rights, wha they' allowed to u the property for, how they' allowed to use it etc N from ou analysi reviewi t existin planne developme district we a jus estat developme general we n fin tha an o the curre allowances through the zonin would b affected b this proposa There's adjacency Questio abou adjacen lan use anything lik that th that's correc That woul end u ricochetin bac Oka Oka Th that' m onl questio fo staff Jus m comment And sounds like w may nee to g int executive, have som questions fo leg counsel I'll reserve m comment after we d tha So Commission To thank you M Chairma ju anoth questio pop i my he about t animals I t neighbor hav livestock horses cattl Cross proper line becaus right n there's n fence right They'r a liv scree lik trees. A the tre are 20f apar I t livesto crossed th propert lin Property line A goi int the ope

spac whe they' assuming ther will gra growi a graze those a t homeowne on th oth sid wi hav t bea t burde t maintain tha grass Would tha somethi that ci c step a mitigat tha S don' kno exact i anima crossi onto differe l violation of ou code ordinances I imagine that it wou b b I c provi mo information i not B in th event i would b a civ disput a the t propert owne affected would ne t repo that o propert standard departmen a mak aware o tha issue Thank yo Okay. W have ha reques b commissio t have coup of question for leg counsel and executi session wil adjou us in executiv sessi und chapt 55 .07 A we'll be ba with you all in few minutes

Al right Reconve us ba into ope session a 7:24 p. Mr. Bell, we ha question come u earlier about t fencing alo t commo proper lin Can y clari that f u I jus wanted clarify that there's alrea an existing fence alo that property line. S that would control th livestock questio Correc Oka A right had reserv m comments till aft ou executi session want appla M Douglas A where'd g He was sitting the front row The he is. No it' okay. You don't hav to come down. just wanted to. didn't know where y were. I wanted t to look at yo And I said thi I applaud you f reaching out to th community. I think yo found some creative answer to some of thei concerns about setbacks, about you know, turning th sides of the hous to the adjacent neighbor so you're not looki directly into their yard Some of the concern that we heard the first meeting, y found a blend SF and S nin a in m persona opinion believ tha all o tha effor ha gone lon w towar preserving t estat Feel th you neighbo hav tod with t screening and t setbac a and all o tha An so jus wanted to thank yo for all your effor on their behalf. think you listened a i shows you commitme t trying find solution I als respect t neighbors that live ther I know y'all g some beautifu plac o there lar tract yo kno rur fee whi i fantasti Wit a I believ tha M Dougl h tried work fin compromise recognizi that you' alrea surrounde on tw sid b highe densi residentia S nine an S

seve A there a S seven and ev six acros t stre a along wit alo with t schoo A s don fi t reque inconsisten with t neighborhoo wit t change I'l be honest d not fe tha way at th las meeting, a and fee lik he gone long wa towar accomplishing that goal preser what yo hav a yet able develop piece o proper wit housing sto th that we d nee in the city o Plano Wit tha sai d agree wit t proposal that's in fron of us. kno we have some othe concerns here, an so I' see i any of th oth commissione would li t wei in on a of the othe concern tha tha have be expressed Commissio anybod Kno Commissione Bronsk I'l sta off M Douglas, a said, whe I firs start talking tha I real appreciate th fact th you' worki har t make effo tha y hav Sho yourse t b perso of grea integri tha has been o city for a lon tim ha felt lot mor comfortabl about T desig to ho i sit today d he t concern of th citize tha are you neighbor and I d belie,

one you neighbo mentioned that Shoul thi committ sugges that th bes optio i to come bac with a P believ that would com bac wi t PD. Tha loo jus like wha you'r offerin and yo would b a person to ke your word a tha With that I' goi t reserve t balance of comment unt everybod els speak M Ton thank yo M Chairma Again agree wit t previou commissioner tha w reall apprecia you effor M Douglas, and t developer a all th neighbors w came to suppo thi desig a w al fee lik o sorry m feel lik thi i gre desi a y have listene You ha changed. Yo hav mad all th chang tha accordi las meeting tha all t requests tha we ha submitt an t onl conce tha h wa tha becau t case righ now straigh zonin cas once w chang t zonin there' n w that c hol eith y or th develop or th developer Aft tha d an changes t t pla becaus once th zonin changes there' n way t cit c do anythi abo the the t pl itself. S thi, solution I like see solution A kin o learned th the, th solution coul be P S gue agr wit Commission Bronsky I there's w that we ca tur into P I wou o tha sid

Than you M Bende Thank yo chairma You kno when tabled thi cas recentl think wh w wante to se w exactl wha happene her i th t communi w worki togeth with th develop t find bette solutio becau there ar limit to wh w wh we c d A o prima ca reaso f busines her is to lo a lan use A al believe tha a landowne hav right right They a hav right A s yo kno I thi you've made lo o progress. A w also want to mak sur tha a landowne rights ar protected think some t comment Commission Bronsky those ki o comment wer leani th directi t makin sure th w c prote everyone' rights a inclu tho thing that a bee discussed a s fort memoriali tho s they're, you know, they' enforceabl Thank you M Douglas. d have question fo you. If you wou come forwar While you'r comin forwar d concu wit t othe commissioners w sai th tha I d belie tha regardle if move forwar with some sort a PD somethin that th pla a presented, I belie is soluti tha h fou t compromi that were lookin fo a least in opinion And t questio I hav f yo a it's ki o a yes or no, would you willi t wo o thi a tur thi into P so we c memoriali t

commitments that you' made the neighbo s that th can enforceab by th cit if that what takes? Yes, sir Okay In fact, tho lik I said, that w one of our firs thoughts, but it w just so small. B but no, if that what you want to go, we'll more than happy t Okay, that was m question. Thank you ve muc Commissione Bronsky So M Douglas, thank you ver much f you commitmen her o that wou mov tha i order all this continue th proce of Mr Douglas a th community worki togethe th w tab thi ite o to a indefinite ti perio No Yeah. W need pick date. Well, we have to notice anywa so th a dat certai isn necessary in th case because we're goi to send out n notices okay. Never min never min oka Al right S we have motio Commissioner Brun Have seco I'l second wit commen tha wis tha thi reques had been par of ou firs tabling o t cas We're no putting h to seco tabli of th case. hope this is t last on It' inconvenient a unfair. thin ultimatel to th applican t kee postponin th cas as think o n thin time afte tim since is agreeab t i see n proble you kno wit goi with wit wit the P forma I'll ahead a second th motion Tha you concur with you comments. wou a tha respect f t peopl that showed up tonight because I know thi is the second tim y'all been here fo many of you an some of you t third and some o you maybe even fourth, because I thin we've tabled twice. S thank you all f your commitment. I kno that these are yo homes, and we as you to come o at night and me with us. We're we'r not doing it intentionally We do want get to a go answer that works f everybody. So

with tha said, we have motion and a secon Any other comments o questions by the commission No. Please vote Moti passe 7 to M Dougla and you neighbors We lo forward t seeing you a agai Thank you Thank y all ve much for coming ou this evenin Yea So we nee to we need t read one B that we can tabl that as well please That was that wa for one A I sorry. That was th motion was fo 1AI rea the S M Commission Brons mov w tabl agend ite o to th indefini tim period wel Commission Lingenfelte I'l second All right motion and a seco to also table ite o consisten with on pleas vote Item on passe sev ze t table as well A righ Item number two Agenda it numbe t reque t expa a ame urb mix us o o 160 acr o land ou of th William Bever Survey abstrac numbe 7 a th Samue Klepp Surve Abstra numbe 216 Located a the southeas corner Pla Parkwa a Custe Roa in th ci o Plano Colli Count Texa for t followi changes expan t distric rezonin 4 acr fro Ligh Industria one t urb mixe U one t modify th required mix uses all outdoo commercia amusement addition multifami residenc units a singl fami detache uni o certai blocks of t

developmen pla a t modif othe developme standards f th distric Present zon Urba Mix U one a Lig Industri One, an locat with t 1 Tollw Pla Parkway an Expresswa Corrido Overla Distric tab January 20th 202 applica Rosewoo Proper Company. Th ite is fo legislati consideration Go eveni commissioners My na i Mol Coryell lea planner wi t planning Department T same t January 20 meeting. Th i th subje propert boundaries shown here t scree A additionally, her is th developmen pla showing t property i questio with th propos development wante inclu thi sli t bri everyone o t previou tabling thi ite a t discus t chang that wi shared in thi presentatio sinc tha las meeting S as reminder, t Plannin a Zoni Commissio table this it at th January 20t 202 meetin t t March 2 meeting. Thi meeti tod aski t applicant t incorporat phasing o nonresidenti use, with t addition multi-family bei requeste T phasi requiremen hav bee incorporat for you consideratio tonight a addition modificatio t t Conditiona Environment Corrid Are requirements ha al bee add f block A lo one F and sta and t applicant ha identified so addition chang neede f fo tha requirement since th meeting, whic a incorporated A the to ma clear I'v updated t presentati related t the change Related t the

changes wi b called ou usin yello highlight whe there' n slides. I've just highlighte the title blo i yellow S wit that I' go ahea and start S t g over th reque aga i ful t reques h fiv element Expanding th district rezoni 4 acr fro o o for t additiona sing famil attache uni bein requested That's th 5 townhomes blo Z modifyi th require mix o uses exce t standar maxim allowance any one Prima use fo residenti use which goi fro 53% to 88 o the development plan, o maxim over th maxim require 70% fo any o prima use I'll g over in mo detai again on tha later reducin th requirement f n residentia use S havin smalle percentag o nonresidenti use. Relate Complementar t t increase residenti uses as par of th request modifyi oth developmen standar for t district which has bee updat fo phasing, whic we wi g over as we a alternati expressw corrido overl distri mitigation standard Th history o thi proje is th i w established i 201 2017, i w amend twice order t refine u allocation signa requirements the stree layou an blo configurations, a then i 202 t reque significantly modified th Umm one distric t Umm o district t demot office as supporti use have 5 reduction offic buildin height The was connection Custer Roa established a

there was additiona 31 ne sing famil detache lot Th distric expansi i 4 acres that current zon Le It' t creation blo Z fo t 51 sing famil attach units Sta finds th t proposed la use i appropriate for t Umm o district a furthermore t reductio in th L o zoning consisten with th surroundin zoning thi property today talked abou th modifyi mix o use in m previo presentation, s this somethi required fo a um districts. establish range o percentage base on th gross squar foota of wh use Current, th maximu allowance f a o primary us i 70% Today t applicant requestin 8 i additio t tha t amount retai a servi use as we a office an professiona uses will hav minim requiremen o thr a 5 Respectfully Thi is th informatio shown a o the developmen pla A y c se they' showing maxim 88% residential 3 retai offic a there's n commitment t hotel T request fo residential h not change They're addin 7 multifamily uni a 5 single fami residen attached unit Additionally, fo nonresidential, this n changing. I onl account f 12% of t gro floor are Th phasi bei propose tonigh i a follows S t

provid umm o exception woul all suc tha blo F th multifami buildin close t cou b beg constructi or have certificat o occupan issue as lon a buildin permits f at lea 12,000ft of ne nonresidenti developme i develope withi block A2, l tw blo A A A C, o a the additionall f bloc A2 lo one t multifamily closer to th corn of We Pla Parkw an Custe Roa T construction o 12,000ft o ne nonresidentia developme must b rea f occupancy Th city Pla doesn't d shel certifica o occupancy howeve we ca fin o construction of nonresidential buildin basicall saying it rea f occupanc S that t langua availab in th propos one Exception t tota amount nonresidentia square foota require pri t 7 additiona multifamil units i minim 12,000ft T buildin permit issue f 12,000ft can t sam 12,000ft tha finaled o f occupancy Th analysis wa provided in previou presentatio b just t sho the h bee a increa i singl famil o residentia use throughout th request ma fro 201 t today well reducti i overal amoun o offic reta a hot u throughou th histo of th zonin cases fo this property There a some oth modifie developme standard which a n changing a par o thi

request. Sin it' bee table they're stil decreasing th lo coverag f n residential lots wel a decreasi buildin heights There ar reduction i freestandi nonresidentia buildi sizes a t requeste exceptions are no conduciv to mixed use developmen As discuss i th previou meeting the is reque for a outdo commercial amuseme u bot fo block A a C T propos exception f this outdoo commercia amuseme will lim operati types t includ gam court tab game min gol oth similar leisur activitie I won allo thing lik g carts circuses mor noi produci item outdo commercia amusemen that's no conducive to t o distric, an additionally a property requir t follow an sort nois o lightin ordinance the propertie would b subjec to thos sam issue o co requirement Goi int th Expresswa Corrido Overl Distri specificall f blo A you c see t Conditiona Environment Corrid are require S unit b buffere from a ty thoroughfa b either 100 fo landsca buffe o nonresidenti buildings o similar great height an leng to th homes Blo M i no meeting thi requireme for t purpose o developin bloc townhomes o blo C and th applicant i providi alternativ requirement These ha bee chang since the la meeting s as yo c see, unde ventilation specializ ventilatio requirements mitiga outdo air f S unit withi 500ft o typ thoroughfare will ge into

mo detail about t specifics tha in momen b t propos standar does no provid equ mitigation to t typica standar Sam for t separati requireme at the bottom o the table. The applican is no proposi non-continuo nonresidentia buildings short heigh 22 a length of t residentia structures, o temporar 100 foo wid landscap edg However they ha remov t requireme t ha tre i between t building ornamenta a a shad tre betwe tho buildings, s that no longer a pa o their request Blo i t multifami buildin closes t t Preside George Bu Turnpike. As par of tonight' request I lik t poin o tha typical in th SC thi propert wou b requir t b buffere from th turnpike eithe 100 fo landsca buffe or nonresidenti buildin o similar great heigh and leng to th homes or this case t multifami structure Stipulatio f block have be modifie t consider th existi ope spa a min street a alternati separati requirements. The reall gre thrivin landscap buffe with th ope spac located o l 1 a 1 whic provide l o noi mitigati a separatio from thos structure a well as th min stree add a addition setback. An then ther are stree tre and parking requirements a wel that will ne t be followed. So the will be significa buff betwe tha blo 1 multifamil buildin and t turnpike S sta is suppor of t modifie

separati requirement betwe bloc F a t Turnpik. Fo bloc blo A l one t CS requires th multifami unit n withi 500 o tha turnpike b sti within th CS t simpl provi 15 fo landscape edge from ty thoroughfares fo t separati requirement Specifically stipulation f bloc A lot o hav bee modified t remove th specif separatio requirement As it' n consisten with th Um for w have maxim setbac f structure withi th u distric s in 15 fo landscape edg is real no conduci t bringin tha buildi closer t stree allowi mor of urb form tha structu is push up agains the stree S sta is al i suppo o thi modifi separatio requireme betwee blo A2, l o and th turnpik Going bac t t modifi ventilati standar th applicant h provided th propos modificatio t t Umu on requirement Sta did no cat it wh modifyi t formatti prior t publishing th packe However t applican included stipulation or modification to t ventilati requirement statin tha intak opening fo outdo air a identified in t adopt Internation Mechanic Cod a amended mu b locat o sides o t building other tha t side of th buildin facing type thoroughfare whe locat with 500 of typ thoroughfa right o way Typicall w requi tho outdoo a ventilati o t opposite o t side of the building That' opposit to th type thoroughfar A currently, a current adopted,

ou ordinan requires with 120 fee of type thoroughfare Previousl o ordinanc w silen und f distan requirement However th reque i not i conformance wit either o previous adopt ordinance o ou curre one a additional blo A L o is n withi 500 of type thoroughfa fro staff analysis S thi wou essentially ma tha requiremen nul and voi f th particula multifamily lot This w discuss i o previo meeting B there a potentia impacts o recen change i sta law A o September 1s sta law h mandat the cit to allo multifamil development a portio o t cit for a ne project initiat after the date o t legislation. This proje h been acti sinc befor tha date, a t applican h chose t b consider und t previou requirements However, a ne application f development could authori construction residential uses the sit without t need fo a zonin change a would b reviewed under current developmen regulation Thi propert i locate within th Urb Activi Center' future la us category, a sho her I do creat increases in th overal housi acreage above th recommend range a wel multifamily typ above t recommended range However t increase attache singl fami typ withi i within th recommend range, whic i positiv However the a increases retai typ above th recommend range a well decreas i offic offic type Looki her a t desirabl charact definin elements, thi property, thi

projec i sti meeting l of t charact definin elements require o n required b provide underneath t Urb Activit Center futur land us category includi being with t recommend range fo buildin heights density as wel a parki orientation an t blo pattern a streetscap S t applica meeti tho charact defini element for t Urb Activi Center. Wit this curren proposa however i is n meeting t intensi requirements We woul lik hi intensi typically in this futur land use categor an they are only providi moderate intensity Ultimatel th proje doe n mee Man aspect o the m o use n th undeveloped undevelop la polic a many t action required part t Regrow a Redevelopment a Grow Managemen policy. S findin i require As pa of thi reque a finding forms ha bee provide to the Commission A o noo las Thursday t staff h receiv 2 lette i suppo within t subje propert thre neutr respons and t responses oppositio A th outside o t subje proper withi 200ft W hav receiv thr signe lette support o thi item, a th numbe has not chang sinc t las meeting A th overall we' receive 4 response whi you c s the table here T reiterate

th reque i sti t incorporate an area lan zone L one f t purpose o developi townhom a allowi f alternati E overla mitigatio standar fo both th townhom and now th multifami a wel modifying th mix o use requirements t excee Excee Exce t standar allowance fo residential a prima use both th U distric and th Comprehensi Pla reducing t requireme f nonresidential uses 1 of th distric as well a incorporatin phasing o nonresidential use for minimum 12,000ft o blo A2 l t o block A A A L, M those are t remainin nonresidentia block th a undeveloped a t reques t ame vario sit desi standar, whic suppo walkable urb developme form consistent with t integrity of t distric Staf supports th geographi expansion of th o distric subject to t provisi of a revise developme pla consiste with the standard fo blo C A the per t Comprehensive Plan an Finding Policy the oth request changes to t existin U o ar recommend f denial an must b found consisten with th guidi principles t Comprehensiv Pla a substantially beneficial t immediat neighbo, surroundin community a genera publi interes I P wishes to recomme approva to Ci Council Tha you s muc and I available t answer an questions. O and t applicant ha presentation well A right commissioners questions staff M Bronsky grea job Thank S jus coup gener questions Why we ha u districts T

purpose u distric i t establish sort master pl distri tha h a urb for invite mix o use a c create stree netwo tha i maintain a par o t u district. Mr. Bell, d I mis anything Terrifi job M seco questio i w do ha t functiona rol a why w ran the T function rol a broke o in primary secondary a tertiary a the purpo is provi range o percentage that ar determined by t amoun o gro squar footag singl u typ h throughout t U o distric Th purpo o havin tho band o range between tho thre differe tie is ma sur that no o singl us occupie t much t ground Gross squar foota o thos use so th it ca b mixed us distric S t the intentio is keep th balanced, right Yes Withi With confine Right S whe this w originall created thin you'r sai 201 Yes Wh wer t what were t function rol T ratings fo t functiona rol for the us categorie Gre question. Let m I going to cheat a I'm going to back to that slid where talked abou tha Oka Here a I'm sorr Back a little b more actually don' hav t origin one B i I c just spe from the top o my head and w can get those,

thos numbers more concretely you, you give me some moment t researc believe w primari office an hote with so supportiv retail a belie residentia w als secondary us B that's th part I nervous about y quotin me on. It mig have been primary a well. No, that's oka So I guess last question i wit t chang that we' seen thi distri a t changes i t function rol t makin everythi excep t residentia u a primary a everythi els t tertiar what kin of impact does th hav on u distric and it gener purpose f existi staff provide in ou repo tha w belie t change bei recommend by th applica do no meet th purpose of t U distric a poin t t origina distric langua a And. I' sorry Commission Bronsky can y repe you questio No. Y were y were goin right down the pat I w wha t impact shiftin everythin aroun o prima a everything el tertiar the hav It has significa negativ impac on t distric as it w original intende for t umu that fa i sayin yes? thin staff repor pointed t that Mr. Bell, d y have something you wa to say? Yeah, ju in summary, we thin it becomes mostly residential district and n a mixed use district Thank you. Thank yo much A right M Bruno Than you, Mr Chairman. Mis Correl Becau t sta h

told us the packe material tha thi proposal inconsiste with th comprehensiv pla a tha i approve thi application, would ha to ma finding in orde to brin it within th comprehensiv pla And i maki finding w would hav fin tha t applicati promot o serve som guidi principl within th comprehensiv pla Could y identi f u any o o mor guidin principles t Comprehensive Plan that woul serve b approvi thi applicatio Thank y for you question Commissione Brounof Mr Andrea, c y help me with thi questio Let m clarif a littl bit Apa from t possibl effect t rece change i state law Okay Yea M Bel believe th questions a probabl bett directed at t applican It' the position mak case as t why they think tha the reque i beyond I meeting the goa of the guiding principles Fair enough. Thank yo Commissioner. Any oth questio o staff Nobody M Bronsky S Mis Corral I jus want be very clea abo t changes Pag 44 o you repor I thi i th scree you talke abo the Wh used to b t iah And th lette tha the note th received pri t o

preliminary op meeti w wa n par o what's bein discussed here Is that correct Vi cha Brons I sorry. fe like I asked y to repeat your questio every single time. swear I'm listening. B c yo can y clarify wha you're aski one mor time for m You pass o pri t the S wh I seeing t scree is that wha thi i or thi something additio to thos change N S thi tab is kin o mea t provide litt b more o gener explanation t changes Th tab her o sli numbe 47 muc states mu mor explicitly t changes. y can se t typic standar identifie i t previousl adopte zonin ordinan that th case being reviewe unde require intak opening fo outdoor F outdo a to located o t opposit side the building from th expressway and t propose requiremen wou all tha inta openi f outdoor air be located on th side of the buildin other than t si that' parallel t type thoroughfar whe locate withi 500 of th ty thoroughfare righ o wa S thi sli much mo explicitly states t modification S now The T standard a w adopt the prio pri t standards why we ha them place Wha

are they? Wh are some of thei intention to he mitiga t noi a pollutio effec o livin adjace t railroad type thoroughfar Oka A s they'r designed prote t tenant that ar livin livin the Yes It's fo publi health a safet Yea Wou par havin t a intak opposit t thoroughfar Th desig t purpose f th i s that they're n getting air sucke i to th vent o o a lea alleviating much possibl th a intak fro you wou that y would g from the road I that correc That correc S i n doi that, we a the creatin t possibilit o havin tha a inta com i has Hav the suggeste a mitigatio suc highe filte a filtratio anythin lik tha t gua th t purpose o t sorry guard t purpo f w we ha the standards i pla that h not bee discuss betwee staff a t applicant However, wil say again in th applicant defense a staff di n notice th the we modifie stipulation whenever w wer talki about them S I d n giv t opportunit t tal this ou and ta abo additiona modifications that cou hel suppleme t modifie request So s the i we approv t th modifie request we ar th allowin a filtration

co i I w different th the way w originall intended T stipulati t zoni ordinan i written i a wa tha wou hel mitigat th chanc A although can't sa for sur looking a these sites, that th would be the cas The a requesting modif t zonin t requiremen o t zonin district S Mr. Bel did y have anything you wa to add to tha I just wanted t note that the are maintaining the standa of a Mer Mer 1 filtrati system, which i standa f t areas A if recal correctly, belie there being so discussio of this o previou cas tha goin abo 1 h minim improvemen lik 13 i about where you g the mos efficien infiltration. B m understanding is th 13 wa designed f the a intak comi opposit t expressways Correc That's how it w written. Yes. Okay. That what I thought, mis Thank you apprecia you patienc wit me. cours Tha you Vice chai Bronsky Commissioner Bender Thank you Chairma You ha mention earli t developmen originall started ba i 201 right. Th I remember was o the on t commissi at th tim Do ha oth u across th cit th hav bee tha a similar th hav tak 1 years S th o distric is th oldes district it's th first it's th o Beaco Squar Y t wa established i 201 Sorry Mr. Bell wha w tha 2 1 20 201 A the Colli Creek wa established i 201 Correc Oka S Beaco Squar

sti und development. They sti hav significa portion the Umm distric undevelope So would s th that's probabl als 12 year Right S t economi changes th can occ ove 1 year is ar prett substantial. Would yo agree And tha cou th cou impac the t weighting the y know, t differen products th are us that are that ar initially set u f tha Y coul be a fa statement Oka Than you A right No othe question o staff All right. We d have a public heari I know the applica has a presentation. I'll open the publ hearing. A if th applicant would like come forwar Oka Introdu yourself. know you know t dril Mr. Chair Commissio name is Bil Dahlstrom 232 Ross Avenu her o behal o th Rosewoo Company A yeah, do have presentatio but I think we' going t not g in i We a lot the questions that hav been asked, we wen into prett muc deta a the las publi hearin wit regar t conformanc wit t com pla and that always going to debatabl lot of th thing we are proposing a a bette developmen for thi propert There's ju not market for that muc offic T market do chang t econo doe change. An tha, th that i fact i what ha happene W ar proposi development that is extension o ver high successful mixed us developmen heritag, Creekside. An I'l tell y o there in th marke peopl kno Herita Creekside, they s Herita Creekside, it lik th i a the there hate to u that phrase, b tha is a that i a place So have created a pla and we are

lookin a expandi i A yes, i i residential, b freque New Yor Cit I've got a so there and I've go a brother ther The a neighborhoods that a highl residential lik this, tha have significant amoun o multifamil a hav residentia retail an restaurants in it a wel S first of all I like to thank Moll She's done a grea job working with u I mean, o ta at th las publi heari wa t wor with staf and com up wit a phasi pla and hit t ground runni lik d later And, yo know, we'v gone w took ou staff lead cam up with thi We went back an forth wit wit severa differe standards Bu she worke very hard So apprecia tha B again, wh we' proposi is, i a extensio o o tha Heritag Cree site. A you kno ther a plenty benefit with thi development. W have development that thi we can actually ge out there and buil With all that offi out there, that's no going to be buil for who knows h long. We d hav an offi compone th we ar maintaining We ar proposin uniqu retai restaurants th hav a orientation t creek. S we'r takin int considerati mo o t natur environme ther a orienti o retail, restaurants an entertainme us t tha And you kno in th day a a o mix use one t magne f tho wh who wor i that are is entertainmen component A w didn hav tha you kno 2014 right I mea that wasn part it. I wasn't ev thought of back the But nowadays it' maj component. Yo thi abo t mor moder mixe u development y know, diversi o housi type two We' bringing

mo f sal townhomes Tha is, think ver important And thi sta sta supports that a wel S w ar complyi wit vario aspects the city' comprehensiv pla Y kno it's developme that's goin b a hig quali development. We're talking abou Rosewoo Rosewoo started this i 201 They' owned this lan f 4 5 years. Tim Harri fro Rosewoo her They've kno i for 40 5 years maybe eve longer th tha A the continue mainta ownersh of a lo o the existin heritag creekside ov on th Eas sid A they will continue to own much the heritag Creekside o the west side a well. The aren' he t develop i a leave They h tha opportunity The haven't done it no A rememb worked t first Heritage Creekside t fir um When cam i we ha a exhibi that h prepare to sh you las time, but it wa w we ha a architectur fi d massing stu of wh we could do that property at th point, and w full offi a warehousi and, an differen kin o nonresidenti use A Rosewo decided the didn't wa to do that ki o development fo t city Plan The wante to co i and do mix u development, one th would tha qui frankly, w going to a lega development f them. And it h been and a legac development for th cit And that what want continu Th cou hav don T numbers that sti in my mind, Mi might kno eight, nine 10,000,000ft o industria warehous offic use tha the decide not t pursu The decided to go ahe and come in wi the first you So you' going hav a extreme goo qualit compete corpora partne in th developme f

indefinit amount tim Agai it's opportunity to provid mor retai a opportunity provide t tak advantag of, o t natur environment. Also. A this econom developme als This somethi w can get out ther and we can buil right away. S would submit tha ye w d further lot of th guidin principles in t city comprehensi pla W furth t mix mix unit additiona residential unit t mix uses wel understan t iss extremel wel about t percentages o t use but th fact of t matte i i today' world those jus don wo a they're n going t work Otherwise the land going to stay vaca indefinitely Getti back ou o charg again w think came wit phasi pl that th wor for u all An w respectfull reque recommendati o approva with th additional languag tha Moll rea into th recor Agai Tim and are here to answ any questions you m have, but this i a very exciting tim for all of us and we are reall excited about moving forwa with this development. Tha you. Thank you, M Dahlstrom I'll le off. got a couple concerns gue i the bes way t put it understand th challenge like the ne sit plan, I'll hones thi you'v adapted t marke think and don hav b probl wi wit lots t a a the way you'v present the conce is wi t res o it A and phasi was o of our concerns the last meeting. believe we've addressed that M conce i an Rosewood' done great job long term player, b we always have look t lan

us n necessarily t curren owner t curre tenant, th curre use b to look a t future, what could don as fa a the land use concerned Have yo a consider a kind permanen restricti o tha land, oth than th zonin t ma sure th i doesn't M concern that we'v h missio cre with more a mo residenti in th developmen whi unless, in my opinion I think we're kin of bumping our hea now as to ho much residential was appropriat for that piece property A don't p wor in anybody mouth, bu I don't think I alone in th assessment A s are the an assurance that yo cou provide the cit o Plano? No jus verba but h cou memoriali t commitmen that tha none of t res of that property woul b residentia in th futur We had t opportuni t com back wit a Senate bil 8 developmen W decid not t tha W wanted continu with wha w s out to i 2014 a extension o tha mixe u heritag Creekside Yeah staff We me with staf severa times and we had tha opportunity to come bac and just do al residential if we want to. We didn't wan to do that. Th commitment is to contin wit t plan th w started 201 a actuall ca bac i t spring. I seem lik long ti ago B yeah, mea o o proposal t continu wit the pla that w have that in th development plan and in th zoni. An yea we're rea to mov forward with it righ now. One of th tools we have our toolbox, and know you have i your toolbox to i to de restrict th propert i addition t t zoning. I tha something you all wou consider on the n residential

lo a current propose dee restricted Who would b t beneficiar be restricted for nonresidenti be that Wel i star I mea tha start raising so questions. mea can't answe tha a as busine questio Yes sir ca raise som leg issues wi that ki of approach, b I have to def t I'm looki fo guess what I'm lookin for. Maybe that's mayb I'm asking the questio wrong I ther som bindi other tha zoni cas som permane bindin place something we could pu i place jus o the outside chance th Rosewood sells i Somebody el doesn co i a a want p mo residenti on thos oth parcel How c w how can w memorializ tha mea w you know we' own t lan sinc befor t 1970s. I' sorr C you state you nam I'm Tim Harri I with Rosewood Propert Company Sorry abou tha Y kno we've owned the lan sin befo t 1970s I we' eve changed our pla we've always co bac her in th Cit Council get you approva Ev today there's som things th we wa to tha y know w don necessarily nee to a f approval. We've we'v alway indicat that's no the right thing t d A that's why we' her today woul say as rule practic rarel ever ha ever do de restriction becau unwindin is ver difficu proces And you know, w wan to do what we' proposing her I kn there's bee a l of changes sin 2014. You kno it 12 year later A l in th world has changed. talked about that la tim bu als w w doubl sin that time th amoun of sing family f ownersh a well. So kno some tha appea li mor apartment We'

only ask f may since t beginning o 4 somethi percen increas Don cou 48 may 5 somethi lik that B we've mor than double t singl family to So we' always broug tha into the cas S I mea we've be we've been grinding awa at Heritage Creekside f yea creat somethi reall specia We alwa cal it the donu hol that ligh industri area tha we' acquired We we and bough that Jus hoping th y guy would gi u you kno thi approval t go townhomes on becau we know that's th right thing to d We want to preven something like more ligh industrial being don ther And a to back to what Bil said earlie you know about what we cou have done yea ago You know, w real actually talked to th neighborhood and they didn want tha A I kno we ha a you know, bunch o vot i suppor a against A if yo just loo on th map of who's agains they're not nearby. I you look at everyo nearby, they're in suppo of what we're doi here. And we hel multiple meeting wit bot folk inside Heritag Creekside an immediate adjacent, an those are the on you s approva for S okay one oth questio Is ther completely chan i topics T a quali question Yea Why t request fo t varianc And I going preface tha wit t commission has been ver consiste since I'v been the Commissio abo protectin residentia use i t environmenta zon And, an ha bee I belie o commission has bee ver consiste about n deviating from tho standards I i there particula hardshi And mayb that's no the right word, becau that would be Board of Adjustments questio But is there particula drivin for that' asking wh you' askin for tha

exceptio tha oth tha it' ju easie Yea Yes the i Ye We actuall hav hir reall gre mechanica electric plumbin enginee ran t requirements them. They d a don't kno wha th percentage is, b they do a to of wo within th city of Plano They ha r acros th requireme befor And yo kno t best wa I c describe it w have the highwa her o buildin here a t corrido T corrid goe beyon o building So matter wher we'r pulli a fro we' pulling ai fro within th corridor A reall o goal is t take th units tha face the highway lik i sai and go ou into ou interio courtyards b also in t on that are hard t reach, to go throu the corridors There' jus so mu traffic u in the ceiling. is like, it's almos infeasible to d this And s it's ju f thos units t go out to t side A that' wha that' really t reaso why S w still hav the all the othe requirement that yo kn we're trying satisfy So mak sure I' understanding what you're sayin So t unit that are t sides of the yo would be drawing a out of t courtya o the interi courtyard hundr a 10 rough 100 away t opposite sid of th buildin Okay. So no n necessarily on th outside fac You'd b in th interio courtyard Shortest path t get on the opposi side of the buildin So it's really the corner units that we' really struggling with t go out to th side. Okay. That th clarifies the request little bit because that that's not what t request allows. And that w I wante t make sure that w were crystal clear what your conce was S i th if th reque w to clarifie tha i would b on th fac opposit t thoroughfa o a interio courtyar wou that stil accomplish wha you're tryi

accomplish, as opposed t just allowing it a face, on an fac that it n facing the freeway Yes yes Yeah. Yo see m question? There's a significan difference in my mi about where you're drawi the air fro Yes sir. Oka Al right That's wh I've got fo now Commissione Lingenfelter S o chair Commission Ratliff, ha kind alrea h allud to th alread b thi the thi that reall I struggling with is ki of similar to wh we just th previou case, jus we jus talke abo where you know h do hol somebod accountabl a enforceable Li how do ho d we make sur that what they're saying they'r going to do, the d And and I thi that's where we're strugglin here as well An and you brought i up th th state t sta l that' be passe H d w kee y yo inten Y promise thi is wha y wan What yo sai How we mak sure th that th i documented in w that it' enforceable a it' it maintaine Okay. Just second please. Yea What you' sayin If wan to wo o Thi And And this is this I just want t make sure Yea yea mea t intent o goi bac and working with t staff on the phasin was, was preve yo concern Tha was t reques las tim we came. And

that's y know, thi lik Bi said, w m with Molly an Christina. think t nex da actuall it' y kno Christin propose thi langua and w said, y know what? That's little bit harder pat Let's do it. Let' settle it right ther is everyone feel go about it. And that' that' really wher w end up. That' what were comin back to be willin to do. Yea. mea I ge t questio reall do. Bu y kno we're worki wi zonin a we're worki wi a develop who who actual deliver a extremely high quali developme dee Restrictions a prett harsh Yeah And it' think it' high irregul in the stat Texas f that come up in zoning hearin I doe I'l admit doe B it' just toug tou question answe again, like t las one and this one I you know, I'll be out fron I think bot developments a nice. lik wh you'r doi her Jus like the last on I lik what they were doing I like what th accomplished. But again get stu o y kno thing happen, thin g sol lan ge sol t equatio chang at a point you kno 12 year down t lin somethi change again So we'r just tryi to I' trying figure out a solutio there to hold th in. And I thi that was the inte of the phasing. Whe we suggested the phasi was was, I thi we thought we'd co back with something tha that would, would ke you i th are a would y b committed t that, lik tha 12,000 tha 12,00 building, th 12,000 square foo shell essentiall know it's n real a shell, but I going to use i that way right no Coul y restric s lik sa we're goi t move i t we're going to comm to blo for say o blo C or

somethin whe you say I'm goin to we're going commi to to lea tho areas where th entertainme distri i those that' going really commi a reall a value thi propert thi th project overall S maybe that a alternati to dee restriction. May it' lik okay, inste o you kno saying well, what are yo going to d Blo e f s and mee that sa restriction Let' say Wel we' rathe have a mor desirab secti an a move it to blo fi o C So is th questi the doi the t 12,000ft i t interna par into a interna par Yea Yeah Whe it' s 12,00 bein her just trying t help find an alternativ mea that's, that o that's ou intent. Bu t mea I lik yo inten I like i love the intent. That' why we want keep it there. don't know what t say except for, lik you know We' we're her t as thi specifi pla. Because canvasi t marke you know, fo t las yea spendi or la 1 month it's been the las year wi staf A I mean, thi is what we wan to do. kno tha y probably see a lot of othe develope say o thi a d anothe T date, we ha never do anythin w haven't sai weren't going t d a that t retai on th corner Plano a Alm is ther because th neighborhood wante it a we sa we'd buil it first, and w did A so yeah that that' t you kno

that's reall o commitmen We're s committed t Plano. mean that' t that's th trut We' not here bai and switch. I thi i that fo so reason, i we ju could not get th retail up off t ground, we'd come as you guys about doi something different We'd com bac her So that that's our inten Oka Commissioner Brounof tha yo Let m ask y the question. I fir asked Miss Coryel a they suggested I as y if appro this, w ha to ma findings unde o comprehensive plan And tho findin hav t identify on mor guidi principle of ou comprehensi plan th a serv b by yo application Can yo identif one o more those guidin principle for us? thi for the The guidi principles talk about l o items suc as th mix use, such as t betterment of t developmen f t curre populati and t futur population Thi is developmen Thi zonin would would allow us move forward for th betterment t cit doing developme tha i consiste wit t existin communit ove there a extensio of th existin communit a it's al a econom developme engine th wou provi economi benefits to t city a wel I' mention t mix use mentioned t mix residential We'r bringing mix residentia als whi whi a y kno princip in th city' comprehensi pla as wel As yo propose i Woul thi Additiona the

additions to t developme provid hig intensi activit center Yes. s how We' proposing hig intensi residentia development bringi in mo residential bringi i more a activ mixed us developme i tha corridor where w hav retai alon t creek So i mean it mor intensi tha what could be don there Doe do you proposa attract larg corporation I'm readi from t description of t Urba Activit Cente in th Comprehensiv Pla on th futu land us map It' on pa 67 o packet. Yea I thi 100 t i w create real gre retai restauran entertainment district, thi i where peopl want com aft work befor wor get the breakfast, g the coffe I thin thi really do suppo it. I thin that' why we've we'v lef offic on ou pla on t corner becaus I think if w can get this going we can get mo office done I thin i support some the grea employment that in th area both eve direction We'r we' tie right int majo thoroughfar And so thin getting t our o mast pla i going t be easy I think we' don reall thorou job o t parking t ma sur that it efficient, th peopl can com her spen time, g out b saf We'r actuall reducin traff coun and t traff impac in th developme from th pri plan S thi we're we' creati som vibranc her f employme nodes t continu up an dow o o corridor here

Plano I think t residentia i important als fo attractin lar corporations And thi thi cent als provide c provid special shoppin a I don kno i and I wi submi t ask t sta the urba activit Cente if ea o of tho point nee to b hit B d believe w hi many of those if no all, t principle We provid variety o housi types, which is goin to be attractive t man folks especially special shoppin dining a entertainment. That's exact wha we're asking f tod and a hig densit residenti development. thi all o tho principles h with th propose development. Does you proposa include mi t hig ris building And think w defi m rise lik 5 to storie And high rise woul be ten stories. A u There's we've we' retaine t blo for for a offic mid-ris offi development H man storie Wel believe we' sorr this s fin print Really. It's o flo plate that we're mos concerned wit It s stori labeled on th developmen pla Oka Tha yo Yea Mine' eligibl And a creatin highl walkab urb for with this developmen Oka Tha you Mr Bronsky S appreciat you gu comin bac again So hav t things th I'd lik to tal about I'm goi to co back t Eca secon as look the m and consider t phasi and t retail that you'r talki about, that' reall important When thi about t phasi

of t 12,000ft a y talked abou i t las meeting a as a matte of fact, I' actual I've talk to thre resident tha a i Rosewoo tha complex completel b accide i m dai lif And one t things th mentione w t retai So I gues m questio i is it Is withi how t languag currentl i structure Are w talkin abo t phasi bei th t retai i A A o i there possibili tha tha 12,000ft cou b i a M could b i either. I mean took t t priorit being th w g eithe mor offic there mor retai the is ou understandi tha Heritag Cree side do. W got to go tha befor S y cou buil and i I rememberi correctl L a M what are thos units Tho that' office offic a residential It jus offic So they'r straight office. Now o proposal is office correct Yeah They're t t skinn lo alo t office retai I thought they were going b condos or something tha wer offi condo Yea The t for the for t most pa the th tenan will the own of the building well. So li engineerin firms denti offices, things of th natur there' b two stori i height, whic is th same height a t townhom behin them plu o minus. To b clea that' a offic use only not a office, not a liv

work. It's pur offic It' ju sol as con f owner Yeah Yes sir. It not live wo situation Oka just want t clarify tha So would fe mor comfortable with commitment t A A retail, becaus believe that was kin of what y a talke abou bei one of th drivi factors th y wer looki fo S that' one thi that th I struggling with a consid my vo o thi A th secon thing wil n vo f thi unles we ar ve cle i t delineati thi The intakes A I n belie the w that th language i current writt toda tha i prevent onl what you'r describin happenin A s hav seriou reservation n abo yo b about t fac that th languag isn cryst clea a far a what we'r expecting ou o thi as relate t the intakes. An believe th i i o utmos importan t eve resident th i going t liv i a o thes tha w as commissio ho stron t t lin that wa t prote the safet i th air tha they' breathing An s believe ver strongly th thi languag nee to change a n be wid ope as i relat t thi languag t acr that ca be from

th courtyard a cha sai Okay. Any oth questio of th applica f tha Oka Yeah. mea yea w have a publ right. Mr. Brons wou be agreeable t t languag th t chair h suggested, far a tha goe whi clarifie i more so Sorry i th clarifying th it' onl as y mentioned t corne unit Yeah. I that wh y said Yes sir Let m ask. think the reduction i two things. It's t location of the vent but it's also reduction in the separatio from 1200 to 500 So th exceptio removes t requirement fo f t locati of th a filtratio fr the bui from th multifamily up clos t Plano Parkway. S make sure that's clea Tha buildin being mor th 500 awa from th expressway Yea O okay. It' 500ft aw fro what did yo sa Any mor clarification I' come back t tha Oka All righ Any oth questions of t applicant Clarification All right. This a publi hearin Y'a sta close Have feeling you'l b bac Do have a other registere speakers Y w d O Corey Reinecke M Reinecker, you know t drill Cor Reineck 18 a pla Pla repea offender Sorry didn' sig correctly wan to ju for the record think you're down o every item, so ju didn speak I didn' pull anythi o consent Apprecia tha I suppo thi zoni request As mention

earlie Pla nee housing According to t recentl complete housi study, th ci i thousands o housi unit sho o expecte deman Some o t projects in t developmen pipelin cited i th study such t Fry site, are longer even i t works, so a falling eve furthe behin If wish t remain cit o excellence, we mu a sufficien housi t complement t substanti grow i expecte employmen is clea from th presentations I've seen tha th proposal meets t marke demand f bot housi a nonresidential use T propos commercia amuseme ar use a copio outdo op space a plaza prese attractiv development A resident I a concern by t insisten o phasi requirements Fro what hav hear the requirements put the car before th horse Thi sort o force backwar developmen patte h t potential doo t project befo i eve begins, a appear to have bee t case on several oth recent projects In experienc Herita Creeksi has been successf development. The desi i fir rat t restaura tenants a excellen and t housi componen appears t off reasonab diversity o housi type wou encoura y t not le t perfe be th enemy t goo a allow th applicant t see thi qualit developme through t completion Tha you Tha you, M Riker D you have an other speakers f t public hearin N not at th time. All righ I'l close the publ hearing restric commen to th commissio commissioner Non I'm goi to tak well, have question. Staff first c y mi can y put bac u your slid tha sai reque o i was the request It' you was yo slide. was befor

recommendations. I summarizes th request Yeah. Let m jus tap the scre like 20 times or so okay. Oh am I a the start of t presentatio sur a Oh you're th sta meeting Ca someo hel me, lik g like I don thi it's like about the you go. Oka It w probabl 2 slides in I know. There it is Oh back back there you g That' the one I'm lookin for. Okay I need to understan bette t reques N onl the sid of th buildin for t intak It's not on t slide. There was different slide I'm sorry Okay Versu t distanc I no sure. I completel understanding th request Yeah. Let m S I thi actual l me ju tal I'l star I'll t t t culpri blo A l one It' understanding tha there questi abo t distanc from typ thoroughfar within t C N t C i conditiona environment corrid o corrido are I'm no so go wit t abbreviations of things b th C range quite distanc from t restricte are o t th distanc and it' generally abou 120 fee giv tak N blo A l o mor tha 500 away fr

type thoroughfare, but it' stil withi t C boundarie o zonin ordinan i that wa previousl adopt makes distinction in th regar for certai requirement namel th optio t provide 100 fo landsca buffer building, nonresidentia buildi o equ heigh a length T are that' more th 500 away. I t cas th buildin they' typically onl required provid 15 fo landsca buff on th sid of the buildi tha run paralle with t type thoroughfar bas o tha t buildin mor tha 500 from typ thoroughfar a the reques i modifie t remov th landsca buffe requiremen believe he' speaki about t filtration, the n reque that g that w misse Yeah, that' what was talking about That what I'm saying. T landscaping is important, b the bu that's was more talking abo the filtration. Th filtratio requirement a requir regardless t distan tha t buildin h within t CSK Now o update requirement clarifi th it' measure 120 fee Howeve whether t buildin withi 500ft o 120 feet th typ thoroughfar o curren standar requi this ai filtration to b require With t applicant proposal onl b withi 500 of type thoroughfar This effectivel getting rid o tha filtrati requireme f thi specif multifami

developmen o blo A l on because i i furth tha 500ft fr a typ thoroughfare Oka s t origin requireme would stil app o blo a bloc a well, a blo th townhomes. We'r jus talking abo A The l o okay A so A und tha filtrati requireme all of th intak would have b on the north sid of th buildin correc Tha i under o curren standard as adopted i this ordinance Yes Oka And then a so they'r askin f it to on an side, as long as it's no on the south side That's correct Althoug o discussion minut a wou a sid Thi interio courtyar o the nor sid Yes. actuall kin o I'm ju trying I'm tryin t craf motion m hea a kind o start the wor for yo B s looking a the shee provide for you Cha Ratlif believe t motion coul rea motion appro Z 20 003 wit a additiona exceptio und secti 20 th o exceptions, includi th intak opening f outdoo a a defin i t adopte Internation Mechanic Cod a amended mu b locat on th sid of th buildin opposite t ty thoroughfar o o a si o the buildin within interi courtya, wher locate withi 500ft of typ A thoroughfare or rig of way. Or y could s 120 fee o whatev distance you wan But believe tha would address th applicant desir t hav

thos ventilation provided interi courtyard a wel as on t opposit side of th building Tha you That' exactly what I w looking for That's what was I w jus mulling around i m brain, but wasn't getting quite t where you got, s thank you Okay Commissione with yo indulgence I'm I going t ta a sho at motion because this i complicat cas And Commissioner Bruno did you have question or comment rea quick? Yes sir Betwe thi applicatio and t applica proceedi und S 840 I hav the feelin that we're sort finding ourselves between rock and a har place Oka Obviousl proceeding unde 8 is you kno unfavorab to the exten that al we ge a apartments and tha destroys th mix u dilutes, should sa the mix u charact o th development B proceedi und t application as see i now thin continu als continu process o dilutin t urb mixed us character o thi developmen b degrees, which ha happene over th pas 1 year Thi applicati wou dilute it the point where don't think it eve qualifies as a urb mix u developmen anymore It' a mixe u developme there There's mix o housi types Ther is so retail t easter edg som som restaurant on th easte edg of t propert B I thi th conce o a urb mix us developme presuppos o

describe compact walkabl ar whe people ca liv a wo a b entertained a recrea a e a sho a within a sor o self-contain community Oka th t me is wha mak it an urba mix use Are T applican i proposi t bui mo residenti units o variou types but whe it come to th nonresidentia uses, they're onl proposi t buil unoccupie she building Peopl canno work a she buildin okay? The can' eat o enterta o sho in she buildin t comprehensive plan i definin th Urb activit Cente Futu Lan U, talk abo econom developme attractin larg corporation We' hea nothin about h man residents of thi developme ar actuall working o would projected t wor within th developmen T retai tha exists is ve small I canno suppor a significa number employees, an don't kno th the employees, they hav co from th neighborhoo or not, we ju haven't been tol So you kno from standpoint bette examp of urb mixed u area like the Colli Cre development, fo example Oka Whi has you know robus elements bo residenti o vario types an nonresidentia busine commercia understand the marke f offi buildings h bee depressed latel W found tha ou wit t those o us who

are the commission at t time, remember the f electronics case in which you know, we wer promised office buildings an a hotel and tha disappeare because o the poo market B marke have a wa of reboundin ove tim A I woul hop that waiting the yo know, littl longer, t mark wou recov a peopl back worki in t offi place a les working home w recov from th pandemic S in orde f me to satisfi tha w sti hav urb mixed u developme mor than na onl I wou want t see some kin o commitment to th nonresidenti use. Something mo than shell buildin That's whe I standing. Yea an otherwise a a plannin an zonin commissioner, fee that my du i to uphold o ordinanc and o comprehensiv pla Thank you Thank yo Commissione Bruno Wi tha a val comment understan t challenge tha Rosewo i facin Als understand the challenge they'v alrea overcome th propert and hav bee go corpora partner wit u An d belie tha t plan th hav i the pla tha they intend t build However thin tha t pla that yo original had was t plan you intended t build as well A I and I respe that the mark change and that y'al bee slogging away thi for a long tim And I know you' going to stay wi i because kno that' how you a are So With th said, I going to take shot at emoti a try play littl Solom he a see if can find midd ground th we ca all agree t I like to mak a motion t appro zonin cas

20 503 with additiona exception under secti 20 of th o exceptions fo l t on, includin intak openings fo outdoor a as define in th adopted Internation Mechanic Code, a amended mu b locat o sides of th building opposite type thoroughfa or interio courtyar whe located withi 500f of a ty thoroughfar righ awa, an tha t 12,000 fo commercia phasi requiremen require tha tha 12,000 foo 12,000ft o commerci she b construct lot A A a o l C so yo c pic part o a o one half o eac t allow for yo to adjust t marke but that it need to be built i that center cor o t project hop tha addressed t concer of th Commissio whil tryin t give th applican flexibili t hav developmen that th c move forward wit S that's th motion Commissione Tom seco all right We ha a motion and secon commissioner conversatio N

conversation. Please vot Mr. Bronsk Motio passes 6 to 1 Than you Gentlemen, hop we'v fou reasonabl soluti that we can a move forward with. Than you very much. Appreciat i Commissioner, to fill o the findings forms. Yes W need to fi out our findings. Forms Can we can w adjourn before we that or we ha to do it befo we adjourn, stay open session and fi out an open sessio Okay, the W c w ca certainly turn th microphones off. We c adjourn unti w fil up, fill ou findin forms and then can adjour Yeah. A we ca certainly tak stretch you legs if you nee t Yea

A righ folks, all we al g our findings. Forms fille out No Hang on Oka We'll give you anothe minut

Chair We'r a complet Work up Everybod don Oka Meeting adjourn a 906 He was ther f over an h