Board of Supervisors Addendum - Regular Meeting

We are going to start the meeting. Good morning. Buenos Dias. We will pass it to the clerk for roll call.

Supervisor Conno? Here. Supervisor Christie? Supervisor Hines? Supervisor Scott?

Here.

Chair Allen? Here. Let the record show that Supervisor Christie and Supervisor Hines are not present. They are both running late, they will be joining us. All other Board members are present. We do have a quorum.

Now we will move on to Pledge of Allegiance. We have Terry Tillman, Planner III Pima County Development Services.

Good morning Chair Allen and Board of Supervisors. If I might just invite my three favorite people in the room, That would be Eliane, Zoellie, and Luis Joaquin to join me in the pledge.

Us why they're your three favorite people.

Well, it's obvious, but they are my grandchildren. I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you all. Now we'll move to our land acknowledgment statement that is going to

be offered by Kim Fitch who is the chair of the Pima County Tucson Women's Commission and the District 3 appointee to it. Thank you so much. On behalf of Pima County residents, we honor the tribal nations who have served as caretakers of this land from time immemorial and respectfully acknowledge the ancestral homelands of the Tohono O'odham Nation and the multi millennial presence of the Pascagua Yaqui tribe within Pima County. Consistent with Pima County's commitment to diversity and inclusion, we strive toward building equal partner relationships with Arizona's tribal nations.

Thank you very much. Do you want to give us any updates about the happenings of the Women's Commission?

I absolutely would love to.

I am the chair of the Pima County Tucson Women's Commission. Thank you so much for inviting me to do this. We are an organization that promotes, educates, advocates for all things for women and girls throughout Tucson and Pima County. We have a building at 240 North Court Avenue that the city gave to us and it is needing some work. We are always looking for opportunities to find where there might be some funds to take care of our historic building.

We recently just had the exterior stucco taken care of and adobe taken outside and repainted. The big news is that we are celebrating our fiftieth anniversary this year. We are having an event, a celebration on August 26, which is Women's Equality Day. You will all be invited You are an important part of our organization. To conclude, we will pass out a brochure to all of you about our organization. Thank you so much for having me.

Thank you. Now we will move on to item four of the agenda, current events and public acknowledgments.

Thank you, Chair Allen, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to your Board of Supervisors' hearing room. Nearly six years ago, on 03/28/2020, Pima County lost a dear friend, Supervisor Richard Elias, a devoted public servant whose love for the people of District 5 and all of Pima County defined his life and his public service. Now the day goes by in this Board hearing team.

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You. District 3 has a couple of office hours coming up that I'll highlight. We will be in Three Points on April 1 from three p. M. To six p. M. At the hub. We will be in Aravaca on April 4 from 9AM to eleven this says 11PM, but I don't think that's true. I would say it's 9AM to 12PM at the Marion Farmers Market. And, also just a little plug for the Southern Arizona Hispanic Chamber of Commerce's first Palo Verde Bloom Festival celebrating this Saturday, the twenty eighth from ten a.

M. To two p. M. At our Keno South Sports Complex for the inaugural Bloom Fest. Live music, markets, food, activities for the whole family. And then this Saturday is also a No Kings Day, I think the third No Kings Day March rally. With that, morning, Heinz. Any announcements? Okay. Then we will go to agenda adjustments with the clerk.

And Chair Allen, for the record, Supervisor Heinz has joined today's meeting. On the regular agenda, executive sessions, Page three, items ten, eleven, 12. On Page seven, Item 30. On the addendum, Executive Session, Page one, Item two, and Item four. These items will be heard at a time soon of 11:30. Back on the regular agenda, we have on Page four, item 15, unfinished business. This is hearing co text amendment ordinance number twenty twenty six-two. The county attorney's office request this item be heard at one p. M. Or immediately following executive session.

On page four, item 17, under franchise license permit, this is a hearing liquor license for Solana Guest Ranch and Spanish Villas. There is a correction to the agenda. There should have been a clerk's note added that says approval for liquor license applies to areas permitted for commercial use with a tenant improvement permit or other type of commercial permit for nonresidential use. That was included on the zoning report from Development Services. And Page eight, Item 40, the canvas.

This item will be heard at a time agenda, page one, item five, issues in the Pima County Sheriff's Department. Supervisor Heinz requests this item be heard at a time soon of one p. M. Or immediately following executive session, whichever is later. Thank you. We

are now going to move on to Agenda Item six, which is a recognition of the retirement of Donna Spicola, planner to Pima County Development Services department for thirty one years. It's thirty one years. I will, I'll move the item.

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Seconded by supervisor Hines. Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Item passes for zero. And for that recognition,

Good morning. My is I'll wait for the board members to come up now. Good morning. My name is Carmine De Bonis. I'm a deputy county administrator. I've had the pleasure of knowing Donna the full thirty one years that she's worked at the county, that's quite an amazing feed. And so Donna and I worked together when I was at development services. So I was there for fifteen twenty years, fifteen years as a director. And Donna is just one of those special people that you come across. No matter what business you're in, it's about relationships.

And really Donna embodies that in the work that she does, the service we've we've a the

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enthusiasm with just passion for the work that she's done. And I think that that's important these days as we watch people do jobs. We can tell when they're not excited or enthusiastic about it. And so work can be demanding and the tasks we do can overtake us. Really I think it's about how you approach the work that you're doing.

And Donna has always been tremendous in that respect. And I'm just so thrilled for her reaching this milestone of thirty one years. I'm envious of her entering into retirement. We'll try to wrangle her to do some part time work going forward. So I'm just pleased to be able to honor her today and thank you very much Donna for thirty one years of service.

Just real brief, I just want to thank everybody that I've worked with, all the various departments. They've just been fantastic throughout the years. Thank you.

Thank you. Best to you. Thank you so much.

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While we got everybody down there, we're going to do item number seven, which is also recognition of retirement of Terry Tillman, who we'll invite to come back. Terri is a Planner three Pima County Development Services Department and recognition of her twenty five years of service. I'll move the item. Second. Seconded by Supervisor Conno. Discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Passes four zero.

Well, good morning again. So a great honor to acknowledge Terry today and I think you can see from thirty one years for Donna and twenty five years for Terry that we've got really dedicated folks at Development Services Department and really across the entirety of the county. I mean you'll meet people who are just tremendous and again building on that theme of relationships, it's about people. And it's about the hearts of people and just the dedication and the commitment. There's nobody more committed than Terri has been.

I mean she has been just a superstar over the years, not just as an employee of Pima County, but just a person. Mean talk about helpful, talk about willingness to get things right despite the challenges that are faced. There's never a pulling back or a throwing up of hands. It's let's roll up sleeves and figure out how to do things. I think you'll see right from the family that's in attendance today that that means a tremendous amount to Terri.

She's a dedicated mom and spouse and grandmom. And just a little secret, she's a tremendous caterer. And so that is her side gig. So whenever there are are you catering your own retirement because whenever there's events, holiday parties or potlucks or retirements or other celebrations, Teri just rolls out an amazing spread and just I couldn't be happier for you at this stage to be able to spend time with all these lovely people that surround you. So congratulations on twenty five years.

Thank you.

Well it gives me a great privilege to just stand here in front of you today and it's just a real honor to be acknowledged. Thank you to Pima County. Pima County has been very good to me and so I've had a wonderful career. Every time there was an opportunity I took it and I still look for those opportunities on my way out the door and I have enjoyed learning land use. You always learn something new so I have thoroughly enjoyed working for the county.

I'm very thankful, I'm very blessed and obviously I couldn't do any of it without my rocks right here, my steady son who has been there the entire time, with the love of my life and the rest of our family. I am just so grateful to stand here today and yay for me!

All right, we are going to move on to agenda item number eight, which is a presentation of a proclamation to Dustin Williams, Pima County Superintendent of Schools Jess Stanley, Bird Baylor's grandson and professional musician and music teacher Chris Gade, director of Pima County conservation lands and resources Natalie Schepp, environmental quality manager Skye Segal, community engagement coordinator, Pima County Department of Environmental Quality proclaiming March 28 of every year in Pima County to be Everybody Needs a Rock Day. I move the item. Second. Seconded by Supervisor Hines. Discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Item passes four zero. And if,

Chair Allen, for the record, Supervisor Christie is connected Hello?

My rock. Yeah. You please join me. Whereas the Pima County Department of Environmental Quality, Pima County Conservation Lands and Resources, and Pima County Schools Superintendent's Office are working together to promote Everybody Needs a Rock Day on March 28 to honor nature educators, mentors and teachers as rocks in our community and celebrate the birthday of desert dweller, social environmental justice leader and nature educator Bird Baylor. And whereas Bird Baylor, who would have been 102 this year and is Pima County's own Caldecott award winning author and cherished children's writer of over 30 books, taught a land ethic philosophy with humans as integral members of the ecosystem, inspiring generations of desert dwellers.

And whereas Pima County's community members, policymakers, and leaders empower youth and adults to open their eyes, minds, and hearts to actively protect the desert environment and seek nature based solutions. And whereas 2026 marks the twenty fifth anniversary of the Sonoran Desert Conservation Plan, built on the understanding that healthy desert habitats are essential to support community vitality, wellness, and quality of life. And whereas county residents are encouraged to deepen their connection with nature by engaging in environmental education and stewardship programs such as guided hikes, field trips, wildlife watching, nature drawing and journaling, and volunteer invasive species removal and habitat restoration events. Now therefore be it resolved that the Pima County Board of Supervisors hereby proclaims March 28, every year in Pima County to be, Everybody Needs a Rock Day, and urges students, parents, teachers, mentors, librarians, administrators, community leaders, schools and school districts in Pima County to celebrate Bird Baylor's birthday and encourage everyone to support healthy desert habitats, nature educators, teachers, and other community rocks on this day and every day, passed and adopted on March 24.

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you very much Jen. That excellent. This is an honor really. Skye and the team put this together and asked her office to be a part of it. And I think something about Bird Baylor, is really unique is she would really want everyone to take a moment and think about their lives and what life is today.

And what we see today is just kind of how wound up the community is in in so many ways. And for our children and our students, what we really want them to know is to take a moment to enjoy the beauty in the landscape that surrounds our lives, to enjoy the sunshine that shines on your face and the warmth that, that makes you feel or the smell of the creosal bush in the rain, when we all know that as desert dwellers here. It's those moments in life that sometimes we take for granted and we don't really capture the beauty and the essence of slowing down and just understanding really the calmness that we all should feel and take advantage of. And so to be a part of this proclamation just in the littlest sense from our office, we are more than honored to partner always. I'm just so thankful for everything and so thankful for what Ms.

Baylor has done for our communities and for that. Thank you very much.

Behalf of the Conservation Lands and Resources Department, I'm pleased to honor Bird Baylor and recognize the impact she and her books continue to have in celebrating the beauty in ordinary things. Having this proclamation come this year, the twenty fifth anniversary of the Sonoran Desert Conservation Plan is really appropriate, and I'm excited to have been part of this celebration. Her book, Everybody Needs a Rock, is used in so many classrooms to encourage connection with the natural world, and through her writings and actions, Bird Baylor promoted environmental stewardship and respect and compassion for all people, values that are very important to Pima County and CLR in particular. Particular.

I am so happy that my favorite desert druid is getting extra special attention recognition today. I knew her since the previous century in the 90s and her grandson Jesse, this Everybody Needs a Rock Day, was actually devoted to her grandson who had a hiccup this morning, was not able to make it today, but it says this is Jesse's book. But Jesse was Bird Baylor's rock in life, and I just am so thankful that Bird's beautiful words and her environmental and social justice leadership action reminds us that we do need to slow down and connect with nature, and also recognize that we're all rocks for each other and the Board of Supervisors of Rock for Pima County. So thank you so much everyone for being here today and appreciating Bird Balor, that beautiful desert druid. Thank you.

We are going to jump to addendum item number one now, which is a presentation of a proclamation to Didi Conan, Shannon Briggs, and Jennifer Radler, co founders of Pop Cycle, proclaiming the month of March 20 Board Board Board the

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So just as an intro, in the last year since being your county supervisor, we've been able to honor two brick and mortar businesses, small businesses, Los Jaritos Mexican Restaurant and Mariscos Chihuahua. This is the first retail store that we recognize in District 5, and it is an honor to do so. Whereas Popcycle was founded in 2008 by DD Conan and Shannon Riggs of DD Co Design and Jennifer Radler of Monster Booty Threads who wanted to feature products made using upcycled materials. And whereas the name Popcycle comes from pop art from upcycled materials and many of the featured makers offer handcrafted goods crafted from reclaimed materials such as magnets, coat racks and serving trays. And whereas Popcycle is approaching we awareness pleased of to the

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and and art art and actively participates in the 4th Avenue District and and weighing in on issues that affect small businesses. And whereas Popcycle is very proud to be the first shop to carry many of its featured artists including Marci Ellis, Spring Winders of Heliotrope, Colleen Conlin of Crooked Tree Ceramics, and Josie Rios of Beads Over Diamonds. And whereas Pop Cycle serves as a first brick and mortar shop for many artists and continues to grow and strengthen the community in and around 4th Avenue. Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Pima County Board of Supervisors hereby proclaims the month of March 2026 to be Pop Cycle Appreciation Month and recognizes and celebrates Pop Cycle about to with

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none of us are public speakers. We are super honored and grateful to all of our artists, our community. I'm super grateful to our partners here who have led and guided me all the way. We're grateful to build community with you and all of the makers and our neighbors in the district. Anyway, it is such an honor and thank you so much. We wouldn't be here with everyone's support.

Our next item on the agenda is call to the public. I wanted to flag one quick thing before reading the guidelines. We have a lot of hearings today. I just wanna make sure that people have completed the correct card. If you're here for call to the public, the speaker's card is green.

If you're here for one of the hearings, the speaker's card to fill out is yellow. And you will be called to speak when that hearing has been opened. So to continue on to the guidelines for, board of supervisors rules and regulations, revised 12/20, so guidelines for call to the public. Citizens attending meetings shall observe rules of propriety, decorum, and good conduct. Any person making personal impertinent or slanderous remarks or who becomes boisterous while addressing the board, may be removed by the sergeant at arms if directed by the chair.

Such person may be barred from further audience before the board. Unauthorized remarks from the audience, stamping of feet, whistling, yells, and similar demonstrations shall not be permitted by the chair who may direct defenders from the hearing room. As is standard, when we have more than 20 speakers, speakers get two minutes each, we have 21 speakers. So it is two minutes each. I will call out the first three speakers.

I'll ask you to come up and occupy the empty seats in the front, so that we can move quickly along. So the first three speakers actually, the first two speakers I believe have said that they wanted to participate telephonically. Do we have and just to say who they all are, Trista DeGenova, Britt Elm, and then I believe in person Kathleen Dubs will be our first three speakers. So we will first go to Trista DiGenova. If Trista's on the line.

Hi Board, I will be here every meeting of this Board until you do your job. I demand this Board's assistance in arranging the immediate and safe return of my service dog, doctor Baker, and the rest of my prize winning flock, who are seized in a 50 man highly unlawful and unconstitutional raid in 2023 that everybody in Tema County needs to know about. The sheriffs basically kidnapped my children, and I will speak at these meetings until they literally come home. As declared sheriff candidate 2028, it's my duty to testify about the poor quality of law enforcement we have in Tima County. The statistics are harrowing.

Four times the jail death of Rikers and five times the arrest of the national average. Although I support the recall movement of sheriff Nantes, not only for blocking the Guthrie investigation, but several scandals as well as my own personal horrifying experience being victimized under under his so called leadership. As declared sheriff candidate, I'm demanding an immediate removal in order to avert any more harm to the public. I have already provided this board and Tucson City Council vote ready regulations to do so and demand action on this. I speak from experience.

PTSD are truly keystone caught, who, in my case, committed pretty much every crime against me and my family that could be committed, obtaining a warrant without probable cause, soliciting a crime, false arrest, detainment, incarceration, and torture, Indiana County Jail, involuntary commitment without cause, kidnapping, the list goes on and on. And most dramatic about depriving me and my service dog, doctor Baker, truly, were trying to drive me to the grave. By the way, interfering with the service dog, violate cameras on the line of ARS132910 and further refusal to return my medical alert service dog is intentional and merciful distress as well as cruelty to him. Again, on behalf of myself as well as to assist the rights of all citizens with disabilities, disabilities, I I demand demand supervisor Andres Cano and Liz Ford assist you with the safe, immediate return and pass the resolution I provided you at the last meeting on the third. This week, I'm filing a multibillion dollar civil lawsuit against PAC, the sheriff's department and attorney's office for malicious prosecution decimation and masked animal poofy stemming from Ms.

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DeGenova, that is time. Thank you. Our next speaker is Britt Elm. Is Britt on the line?

Good morning. Can you hear me?

Yes, thank you. Go ahead.

Members of the Board, my name is Britt Elm and I'm a civil engineer. I'm here to share findings and conclusions from my investigation of a mobile home park in Pima County located at 6643 South Sparrow Avenue, where I lived for about the last month. Last Friday, when the deteriorating electrical system of my home forced my evacuation, there were eight permanent dwellings located on this property contacted to on-site infrastructure designed and permitted for only four. My rental, Unit 5, was placed unpermitted sometime between 2007 and 2008. Unit Five's electrical system is substantially non compliant, stemming from a single residential meter simultaneously feeding three other units as well.

The 50 amp service from the meter from the residential meter feeds ungrounded 30 amp breaker, in turn energizing an ungrounded delisted stab lock electrical panel with a loose faceplate. Ordinary daily living would routinely overload the electrical system, yet the breakers would not trip. In short, Number 5 lacked any of the required safety mechanisms or redundancies required by code that would prevent a serious incident from occurring. The same could be said of my interactions with county agencies about Unit Number 5. Despite overlapping enforcement responsibilities, those who responded indicated they would not take action.

Likewise, Supervisor Conno expressed to me that Pima County Code compliance has no enforcement capabilities over Unit 5. If that is the case, I'm asking the Board to clarify. Which agency does have enforcement authority in situations like this? The assessor's office knows that at least six mobile homes apparently classified as personal property. Yet the personal property tax burden for this parcel has been exactly $0 going back to at least 2019. Taken together, these issues

I'm sorry, that is time. I would encourage you to submit to any additional the Clerk of the Board and that will ensure that the Board receives all of it. Thank you. Kathleen Dubs is our next speaker. Then while you're walking up our next three speakers will be Patricia Maesch, Chris Conniff, and then Lori Moore. So if you all could come up to the front and get ready.

Hello. I'm happy to see that the Board of Supervisors has been thinking outside the box and has been meeting jointly with the City Council. This spirit of cooperation is heartening to see. And one place where I think you could easily pursue this cooperation is in the implementation of Judge Wendy Millian's very successful firearms transfer program where victims of domestic abuse are assured that their abuser will no longer have a gun. There are a couple of ways they've become a prohibited possessor, a judge will order it, and the problem is without enforcement to make sure that the person who has been ordered to surrender actually does give up their gun, their life is in danger along possibly their children, and you may not know this but more than half of all mass shooters have been convicted of their domestic abusers or they kill someone in their family while they go on their rampage.

So in other words getting the guns out of the hands of domestic abusers will make us all safer. So judge Wendy Million had this grant which is ending in June. We know that this will make people safer. So she has come up with a unique proposal where Pima County and the city of Tucson work together to hire two full time high risk advocates from Emerge plus a full time firearms coordinator. This coordinator would track all the orders for both the city and the county and would make sure that those guns are removed from those dangerous people.

And the cost? Judge Millian estimates that it would cost approximately $180,000 for the three employees which would be divided between Pima County and the city of Tucson. It seems a very, very small price to pay for saving even one life and possibly many more. This is an op this is a unique opportunity for Pima County to become example of how a coordinated response could keep an entire community safe.

Thank you. Our next speaker is Patricia Meisch.

Good morning. Thank you for letting us speak today. I am following on the footsteps of Kathleen. One in four women and one in seven men are victims of domestic violence. In Pima County, it's estimated that the cost of domestic violence is $200,000,000 to $300,000,000 per year, and that includes ER, hospital visits, 911 calls, officers responding, courts, shelters, advocacy services.

So, if you can save even one life and save money by doing this in the cost of what domestic violence costs, I urge you to do this. If not for fiscal responsibility, for moral responsibility and as a witness to six murders and 13 attempted murders, I feel like this is a mandate to me and that I will speak to hopefully you will listen and take action. Thank you. Thank you.

Our next speaker is Chris Connoff.

Good morning. I've spoken to you several times over the years about Sheriff Nanos. His horrific stewardship continues. I left four years ago. I don't even recognize the department that people left. You have rookies training rookies. That. Be We're

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and it's troubling to say the least and upsetting to me personally. It's gotten to the point where people just have no other no choice but to leave. It doesn't matter how much money you throw, they're not going to stay there under the current command staff. It's dire. I've sat here a couple of different times when Sheriff Nantes spoke and he's not forthcoming about why people are leaving that place.

It's gotten to the point where even local clowns are protesting his rule. And I don't see how the department can sustain itself. I really don't. I know there's a statute that you folks can enact, and I encourage you to do so and put him under oath. I know exactly what's going to happen, and I'm sure you have a pretty good guess what's going to happen as well. Thank you for your attention, and I'll stop raising property taxes please. Have a good day.

Thank you. Our next speaker is Lori Moore. The speakers after Ms. Moore are Erin Cross, Corey Stephens, and Robert Royce.

Good morning. My name is Laurie Moore. Sheriff Nanos is currently in the process of being recalled. As a person helping to collect signatures, the mere mention of his name gets the clipboard snatched out of my hands followed by, Give me that, this guy has got to go. Most petition signers only know of Sheriff Nannos from the embarrassing reports on national news excoriating him nightly for a pattern of amateurist missteps sheriff's Sheriff's well well documented documented history history with with the the El Paso Police Department should have never granted him employment in the Pima County Correctional System, much less the climb to Sheriff.

The signs were there if anyone bothered to look. For example, there is a record of disciplinary action including a multiple day suspension for police brutality. Mr. Nanos allegedly quit that department in lieu of being fired. Were previous disciplinary actions overlooked on his application or never reported, the public deserves to know.

Local law enforcement who have experienced Nano's firsthand overwhelmingly echo no confidence in him as a leader. That was evident when Pima County Sheriff Department deputies worked hard to get Sheriff Nanos defeated in the last election. Documentation shows that Nanos ran what appeared to be an unethical campaign when he suspended his opponent, the head of the deputies association, Heather Lappin. Because of his incompetence, lying under oath in a deposition, failed leadership, and improper betting, he has hurt people's lives. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Thank you. Our next speaker is Aaron Cross.

Good morning, Board. I'm Sergeant Aaron Cross, President of the Pima County Deputies Organization. As many know, a reporter recently uncovered the long hidden terrible record of Sheriff Chris Nannos from his time as an El Paso police officer. This includes purportedly beating a handcuffed suspect in the head with a flashlight for which he was suspended and nearly indicted. This record, if properly disclosed, would likely prevented him from being hired or from becoming a peace officer in the State of Arizona.

For over forty years, this has been concealed from the Department and the voters of Pima County. Because of this scandal, our organization, the largest union of deputies in Pima County has taken a vote. We asked our members a clear question, confidence in Sheriff Nanos to continue in office or no confidence and a call for his resignation. The verdict was unanimous, no confidence. He has lost the faith of his deputies and the community.

His past renders him unfit to wear the badge. That he has concealed it for forty years does not make the concealment right, it makes the fraud greater. The 300 deputies I represent speak with one voice. Chris Nannos must show the integrity he once swore to team. Supporting supporting team.

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Thank you. Our next speaker is Corey Stephens.

I am here to ask that the entirety of this board support the measure to hold accountable, open an investigation into call to question by legal means in fact that sheriff Nanos lied under oath in a sworn deposition about his previous work history and subsequent discipline thereof, which is misrepresentation of office office. Misrepresenting background, one might be subject to criminal investigation or official misconduct proceedings which can trigger vacancy. Facts. Chris Nannos' less than stellar six year career with El Paso PD earned him quite a rap sheet earning eight suspensions. Nannos resigned in lieu of termination.

Unfortunately, found his way to Arizona. Questions that must be asked. In '83, when he was hired as a Pima County corrections officer, how did HR vet him properly? A simple phone call to El Paso PD would have arguably deemed him unhirable. Were polygraphs part of the hiring process back in '83?

Surely, would not have passed. This leaves us to where we are today. It's no secrets secret the nation has eyes on Pima County. We have a sheriff that who has numerous lawsuits, an FBI RICO investigation, deputy on deputy rape case, a pattern placing campaign opponents on leave. He has created a hostile work environment where in many cases officers or deputies question or disagree his act actions or decisions, retaliatory actions such as duty reassignment, and most egregious circumstances to motion are sure to follow.

What is at stake? Officers and deputies have been and are leaving the department en masse. A once nationally revered department has now become a training facility for officers to join other departments and agencies in the area of state. Precious resources lost, financial, employee, and most importantly, the loss of human life itself. If he is willing to lie about his background, what else has he lied about in the past forty years? It is on your onus to right the ship. Thank you.

After Mr. Robert Royce we will hear from Mary Elizabeth Pollard, Reyes Suarez, and Jamal Gibbons. Mr. Royce.

I prepared a three minute political presentation. I'm not going to try to present it in two minutes. I'll just embarrass myself. I will present the essence of it at the next City Council meeting in three minutes. But let me take this opportunity to endorse Mr. Gutierrez's recall petition. I sat in this room and watched Sheriff Napier stand at this spot five or six times. He was always serene, honest, There was no nervous energy, and he was very respectful to this board. And then I watch him, Sheriff NANO's, he's a bundle of nervous energy. He's totally disrespectful.

The contrast was just unbelievable. I never voted for Sheriff Nanos. So I endorse Mr. Budieri's petition. I'm going to be busy putting my own Jefferson party on the city ballot this year, which requires 2,000 signatures. So I won't be collecting signatures, but I will sign Mr. Buderijeris' petition and I encourage everyone to do the same. Thank you.

Thank you. Mary Elizabeth Pollard.

Thank you, Chair Allen and supervisors for the opportunity to speak. My name is Mary Elizabeth Pollard and I'm a member of the League of Women Voters of Greater Tucson. The League's President, Betsy Bozier, was unable to attend this morning, so it is my privilege to use her words in reflecting our position and our request regarding the Domestic Violence Firearms Technical or Transfer program which we happen to call DEF TAP and Kathy Dubs, my predecessor, described it very, very well. DEF TAP was created in 2021 by a Department of Justice grant that was awarded to the Tucson City Court Violence Court. The federal grant money was used by the police department to have detectives and sergeants serve orders accompanied by emerge advocates when appropriate and to collect any firearms or affidavits of transfer.

As you know a survivor of domestic violence faces greatest risk at the time they leave their perpetrator. So when a survivor comes forward to request an order of protection at this time ensuring firearms are removed from offenders in every case is crucial. The federal government did not reissue this grant yet continued funding is crucial to supporting the survivors. DEF TAP was designed to be able to be extended with its life saving work with firearms transfer by building on this program and extending it to every court in Pima County and expanding the capacity to work within law enforcement across our counties. The League of Women Voters strongly encourages Pima County officials to help support and expand this program into the justice court and superior court systems.

We ask you to consider this funding. Thank you.

Our next speaker is Reyes Suarez.

Good morning, great parties and writers. I'm here on this twenty fifth day of a legal war in Iran. My name is Reyes. I'm a new Tucson native representing myself. Just a couple weeks ago, AI company Palantir was showing off its military AI program, Maven.

They claim it only takes three clicks to donate a target and set an airstrike closing what it calls a kill chain. This, I believe, is how the Sareja Tayyaba Girls Elementary School in Iran was bombed resulting in one hundred and sixty five deaths. Armaments were believed to be made here in Tucson, Paratheon creating deep and lasting shame on our legacy. Maven was able to do this with data gain and supported through Anthropic's AI Quad. Here at home Anthropic was given ultimatum by the Pentagon, allow AI to self determine and close its own kill chains without human oversight as well as allow Clawd to engage in mass surveillance for our domestic population.

Anthropic denied the Pentagon losing on over $200,000,000,000 contract, Sam Altman's OpenAI Chad GBT gleefully stepped in, in order to accept those terms. This is how big tech and our government operate. The federal government butters them up with beyond expectation contract and imposes last minute terms to get the company to walk back in its morals. Google, Meta, Reddit, Discord, all caved when the government came demanding that they disclose users' names, emails, phone numbers, and other identifying info for criticizing ICE in this administration. These weren't judicial warrants either mind you.

Under normal circumstances those companies were supposed to disclose warrant users in advance so they can have a chance to appeal the subpoena. But again when the government came knocking, Big Tech happily complied. So I ask you, what makes you think our ALPR and other surveillance data is anyway secure going off this pattern behavior? We know that at least one company is a deep partnership with DHS, multiple sites of ALPRs disguised as traffic barrels, vehicle trailers and even salvatos along our highways. What if DHS leans on them for disclosure for jurisdictions it does not have access to? Are they willing to risk out billions in contracts to the federal government to protect the sovereign entity of Not to mention that they already have backdoors in the system. Council these AI surveillance. Thank you.

Thank you. Our next speaker is Jamal Gibbons. And after Jamal, we'll hear from Chris Rebo, Rai Whalen, Bill Anastopolo and Steve Stretz Gulius. And Good

morning. Thank you Chair and Supervisors. My name is Jamal Givens. I'm with Liberty Partnership Community Council, a prevention organization known in the streets as LPKNC. We work with youth to prevent substance misuse and promote mental health and wellness and youth development.

I first want to thank you all for investing in the opioid settlement dollars. We were in competitive process and were awarded some of those dollars to impact our community positively and especially our youth. And just excited to share with you all the importance of prevention. You all in the city have been doing good work at doing work with treatment and recovery and support, but I also want to remind you that prevention is just as important. When we look at mental health, when we look at violence, they're connected.

There are young people that don't have necessarily the supports that they need in order to deal with the challenges that they're having, and they sometimes go to substance misuse to deal with those challenges. The other thing to share with you is that mental health is so prevalent for our young people today that even we have youth going and preparing to go to the state legislature tomorrow to talk about making sure that mental health stays in the schools. So ultimately, the reason I'm here to say is that we're here for community. We like your continued support and thank you all for investing in not only treatment and recovery, but don't forget about the little brother, prevention. Thank you.

Thank you.

Chris Rebo.

Hi, I am Chris Rebo. I am against the Solana Guest Ranch. They just got a temporary liquor license and they shouldn't even be there. They are basically utilizing all the water, making too much noise, keeping the neighbors awake. My house is backed up to their property.

When they throw these parties, I could hear the vibrations from the base shaking the walls and the windows and they are using all the groundwater. I have a well that is drying up and I will be in the shower and I have to wait sometimes five minutes or so for water to keep trickling back out to finish my shower. And they put in a koi pond which they said is a retaining basin and they are pumping the water right out of the ground. I am against everything they are trying to do and they shouldn't even be there. Thank you.

Thank you. Our next speaker is Rai Whalen.

Good morning, members of the Board and Supervisor Christie. I am a resident of Corona Day Tucson and as one of your constituents I'm here to share concerns about the current lack of infrastructure and investment in the community that I live in. Recently we sold land for a data center and that's what specifically this is about. There's often an expectation that individuals can pull themselves up by their bootstraps. However, that idea can only hold true when the basic conditions for opportunity exist.

In Corona Day Tucson, those conditions are completely absent. There are no meaningful incentives to start a business, support local commerce and essential amenities like a park or grocery store. My children don't know what a park is because we can't walk to one, so we have to drive. There's also no public transit. Despite the passage of propositions four eighteen and four nineteen, residents in my area, specifically along Houghton Road have been told that no meaningful improvements will occur for the next twenty years.

At the same time, there's been no communication from the Southeast Area Council regarding how these funds will be dispersed to support our community. Across Biena County, there are strong examples of well that support multiple modes of transportation and we even saw some of those people here today that we saw them retire. Systems provide residents with greater mobility, independence and reducing reliance on personal vehicles. Unfortunately, once you go outside city limits, the quality of infrastructure declines significantly and rapidly. The stretch between Salerida Road and Anderada High School which I have to drive on all the time, there's potholes, flooding occurs when it rains and there's no safe accessible multimode transportation corridor.

However, you managed to plow a road for the data center fiber but we can't walk on it because there's signs that say no trespassing. We've erected barriers that prevent humans from accessing good infrastructure and I ask that you and Southeast Area Council do something meaningful about it. Thank you.

Thank you. Our next speaker is Bill Anastopoulos and Steve the Board of

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years. Our next three speakers are going to be David Smith, Betsy Smith and Reed Sperling.

Good morning both elected and unelected members Board of Supervisors as well as the other employees, Jan, Sam, everybody. You know, we are it's interesting because however you assume a position as a public servant, whether it's an elected position or an unelected position. I became a city police officer here fifty one years ago. I swore my oath and it was expected that I serve the community at large. We expect you to serve the community at large and be aware of the welfare of both the people who you may have been an activist for in the past, but you're now a proponent for, a servant to all members of this community.

That said, I see you're going to talk about things today such as unpersoning Cesar Chavez. Unperson is of course an Orwellian term we saw in 1984 is to say he no longer existed period, he's going to be gone erased. But conversely, you can say well he was revered because there was good that he did. Conversely, across the street is a statue of a terrorist who killed many American citizens, untold peasants in Mexico, and yet Pancho Villa is still celebrated. I'd ask you to think about unpersoning him or rethinking how you unperson people.

That said, we have a current public servant who needs to be reviewed intensely and that public servant has let down not only his community, he has let down his responsibilities as a public servant to take care of his employees, to provide a service to this county. By that I mean our sheriff. I have witnessed over the last couple months as have you not only his failure to communicate effectively, his words inarticularly terrorize the elderly community, and frankly he has been a mismanager of everything he's touched. So while you think about who to un person today, think about who you should follow-up both in prosecution and condemnation. Thank you.

You. Our next speaker is Betsy Smith.

Good morning, supervisors.

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Nannos is an international embarrassment at this point. I know that you guys didn't hire him. We elected him, unfortunately. But long before the Nancy Guthrie investigation, this man lied about his record to get hired at the Pima County Sheriff's Department. Recently, he lied under oath.

And we know that he runs the Sheriff's Department with an iron fist, abusing his employees. We have one in the room today, Sergeant Aaron Cross, been absolutely abused by this man. Lieutenant Heather Lappin, who had the audacity to run against him for sheriff, was abused to the point that even though she was wildly well educated, well informed, and so qualified for her job, that she fled to another police department, where, frankly, they pay her better and treat her so much better. Women have been abused under this man. This county has been abused under this man.

You hold the power to do something about it and the residents of Pima County deserve for you to do that. Please consider doing what Doctor. Hines has done and putting public safety over political party and do everything you can to get this man investigated and removed from office. Thank you.

After Reed Sperling, we will hear from John Anderson, John Braye, and Robert Burr. Robert Burr.

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violations that there is a koi pond that was put in there without a permit that is sucking up the water and it's limiting the water table there. It's affecting the pumps that my client has for her well. There's light pollution and they have lights that are aimed up into the sky in violation of Piedmont County violation related to the light pollution ordinance. And I will be addressing more of this information in the Agenda 17. Thank you.

Thank you. Our next speaker is John Brachy.

Madam Chair and Supervisors, my name is John Brachy. I am the Executive Director of Audit USA. I have spent more than twenty years working on election transparency, not to attack elections, but to help verify them. Let me be clear, I am not asking you to overturn this election and I am not alleging fraud. I am asking for something much simpler.

Before you certify this election, take a short pause and verify it using the records your system already produces. You have a hybrid system. You have a ballot image, you have a hand marked paper ballot, and you have a cast vote record database. If you would not certify this election because if you do certify it, you cannot do what I'm asking. We've already met with Adrian Fontes.

My Chairman of my group is Ken Bennett who is an outstanding independent Republican who stands for the great work that he has done over the years. He would come down and work with the election department. You would go ahead and provide a separate computer that would have 64 RAM, have an i7. I can go ahead bring a macro that works with Microsoft Excel, I can go ahead and take your database and in less than three minutes I can hyperlink up 450,000 images twice because you have double. And then we would be able to separate it into two sixty five separate precincts and use ARS16602 to pick 2% of the precincts and randomly check them.

If there is any precinct that we pick that is less than 100, we don't want to check that because there are concerns by the election department that could out a voter. Even though I want you to know a study was done, 99.83% of all the ballots in this state protected and if I could I would to extend my remarks and leave this with Thank you very much for your time. If I could I would just like to give this gentleman here.

And our and following Robert will be Molly McKasson and Kevin Kubitsky.

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You. Shall I begin? Please. My name is Robert Barr and I live in District 4, but have lived in Pima County for the last twenty years. The home I have is at 2000 North Kimberly Road.

I've lived there for almost ten years. I have 12 children, 10 of which live at home with me. Out of them, the bottom 12 year old and below run as young as five years old and really down to three with one that's being adopted here in the next month or two. The Kimberly Road is a private residential road. And on there, in the middle of it, is a Solana branch thing where they want a liquor license where my kids are literally have to ride their bike.

They ride their scooters, their skateboards, they walk. My 14 year old sprints up and down that because he's an ABC cadet and so he's training. I ask you to reconsider any sort of liquor license for a property that's in the middle of a residential road. The road is narrow. If you want to turn on to Kimberly from Tango Verde and somebody wants to turn off a Kimberly, literally only one can go.

And so usually what happens that see. We're that to to have a liquor license for an establishment in the middle of a residential road that only is at one way. There's no way out. It's a dead end. We're going to be stuck. In addition to that, literally, and I know other people have said this, water is a problem. My wife just last week is in the shower with cream in her hair when the water turns off. Why does it turn off? Because it lowers. Is that my two minutes?

That's time. Thank you. I encourage you please vote no or at least put it off to study.

Our next speaker is Molly McKasson.

Good morning all. My name is Molly Macasson and I live in District 5 in the center of the city. I don't want to take up too much time, but I'm very grateful that you are open to the thought that we should protect victims of domestic violence. I'm here speaking not as part of the league, but as an individual who's been involved in trying to encourage government to do as much as they can in the area of gun violence prevention. So I want to remind us, though I don't really need to, that government has done very little.

From the feds all the way down to this room, there is your hands are always tied. We always hear that you can do nothing. This morning, I want to tell you there's something you can do. This is almost an unfunded mandate, these protective orders that are currently not being served. This program, which Judge Millian devised brought forward and carried out so beautifully for a year, is a program in which if you participate, you can do something to prevent gun violence. I hope you will. Thank you so much for your time.

Thank you. And our last speaker is Kevin

Good morning, members of the Board. My name is Kevin Kubitsky. I was asked to come down and speak, so forgive me, I wrote this pretty quick. Members of the Board, I'm here to address leadership failure at its highest level in the Pima County Sheriff's Department and the need for independent review. This is about trust. When leadership loses it, the entire system weakens. Over a year ago, I submitted public records request to the Sheriff's Department. It remains unanswered. Arizona law requires a prompt response. The failure alone raises concern.

Before that request was I was contacted by internal affairs at the direction of Sheriff Christopher Nannos and questioned about my political affiliation. I was asked whether I supported Heather Lappin and whether I had contact with Sergeant Aaron Cross. That line of questioning had nothing to do with misconduct. It had everything to do with politics. I raised objections. I stated clearly that internal affairs was being used improperly. I filed a complaint. I reported that I felt targeted and harassed. That complaint was dropped. No investigation, no outside review, no accountability.

Excited in the to make we're department, fact the message is clear. Deputies we're feel constrained. They fear retaliation. They are not operating with confidence. They are operating under pressure. This is not rumor. This is consistent feedback. The largest deputy organization has already taken a position, unanimous support for further scrutiny. This is not isolated. Their patterns that mirror past conduct tied to federal RICO scrutiny in this county.

When patterns repeat, you do not ignore them, you investigate them. Probable cause does not expire. The statute of limitations does not erase underlying conduct. When credibility concerns persist, the duty to act remains. I am asking for three actions: initiate an independent investigation outside of Pima County, refer this matter to the U. S. Department of Justice for review, enforce compliance with the public records law immediately. You. You.

I am now closing call to the public. Would any Board members like to do any of the following: request staff to follow-up on any matter from call the public, request that an item be placed on a future agenda, or respond to a criticism. Supervisor Scott.

You, Jim. I am familiar with Judge Millian's proposal from conversations I've had with Mr. Humphrey who is one of our appointees to the board of health. What I don't know is if judge million has submitted her proposal for consideration by both the city council and the board of supervisors. So I would ask the county administrator to follow-up with the city manager to find out if judge million has had communication with the city manager's office because as I understand it, she hasn't had communication with your office.

Secondly, this is the third meeting in a row where we have had items for petition for relief of taxes, and we heard some gentlemen address that. So this is the third meeting in a row we've had these items. I requested three meetings ago that we get a report from whichever office is most appropriate for following up with the board to find out how we are communicating to eligible organizations that they can petition for relief of taxes, I would like the board to get that information. I don't think that that necessarily comes from the county administrator, but if miss Lesher, you could follow-up with whatever offices need to get that information to the board. I would appreciate it.

Also, you know what, I'm going to hold off on this because Salana Guest Ranch in Spanish Villas is in Supervisor Christie's district and he may have something to say on that matter.

Supervisor Christie?

Madam Chair? Am I being heard okay?

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Thank you. I would like to ask staff to follow-up with the gentleman from Corona De Tucson on his concerns, particularly his concerns about the road situation and the condition of the road that he referred to and follow-up with him to see if we can get those addressed. And to Supervisor Scott's reference with the guest ranch, we will be asking some questions on ahead.

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understanding is that the item dealing with Solana Guest Ranch and Villas has to do with a liquor operations of the property that I'd like to ask staff to follow-up on perhaps through either development services or department of environmental. Quality.

I would also just echo supervisor Scott's question direction to the administrator to look into the domestic violence firearms transfer program, it seems imperative that we figure out how between us and the city and our courts, from city court, justice court, superior court, that we can sustain this incredibly important program. So I'd like to know how we might be able to do that.

Chair Allen. I apologize. Forgot to mention this. Mr. Kubitsky, when he addressed the board at the end of call to the public, addressed some concerns with regard to the operations of internal affairs within the sheriff's department. I don't know if any of his concerns could be addressed by the county's human resources department, but I would ask the staff to follow-up and see if that's something where human resources would have any role or purview.

Moving now into the rest of the agenda. I'm going to try to cover items that I know some people are present for before we hit our 11AM time certain. Going to first go to item 30 I believe it's thirty four. Yes. Regular agenda item 34. This is, no. I'm sorry. That is not not 34. It is just bear with me a sec. 47.

Yes. Item 47. This is unfinished case. Case. The is is the Justice Court.

I turn it over to Mr. Overholt to give us an overview of what this item is.

Thank you, Chair Allen. I'm Ron Overholt, I'm the Superior Court Administrator and this is Cassandra Urias, who is our Chief Deputy Court Administrator. This item is creating a classification in our consolidated Justice Court of Division Director and it would convert two manager positions from manager to Division Director and Justice Court. That would reflect the level of responsibility that these two individuals have. They each have about half of the Justice Court responsibilities under their responsibilities.

It's also consistent with the classification structure in other courts in the county. The division director classification exists in Superior Court and Juvenile Court already. So this would mirror that classification in the consolidated Justice Court. I know there was concern expressed at previous meetings with regard to whether this was creating another level of authority within the courts and it's not, it already exists and whether this would be creating new positions and it's not, These are converting to manager positions to director positions. That was explained to a couple of the JPs who expressed concern and now I understand the concern is that potentially the Chief Justice could undo the consolidation or placing the Justice Courts under the Superior Court and therefore we shouldn't create the Division Director position because it could be undone.

If the Chief Justice rescinded her order placing the justice courts under the superior court, it would still be the same level of responsibility for those two individuals. So it would not affect that. I think in our letter to the Board, we did reference the AHA Justice Court and that sort of added another layer of responsibility, but really the AHO Justice Court consists of seven employees and one justice of the peace, so it wouldn't really affect the level of responsibility. It would cut down on the amount of time it takes to drive out to AHO and be present in that, but it would not really reduce the level of responsibility for those two individuals. So, we respectfully recommend that you approve creating that position in the consolidated court.

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I guess I've struggled a little bit with this item somewhat because I think back to my eighth grade civics and we're taught that there is this very hard line between the legislative, judicial, the executive. Then there's this what I've realized in this role is that there's some blurriness to that right and that the budget for the courts is in here at human resources and the courts is within the county so there's some gray area in that. I guess I've heard from AHO Justice Court concerns about this and particularly from the recent administrative order that has extended from the state Supreme Court and putting superior court involvement, increased involvement in the justice court. So I guess my question if you could just talk a little bit more to allay some of my concern about whether if indeed this reclassification is done that there is an endgame right to kind of getting the restoring the independence of the Ajo Justice Court and if that if those positions will kind of step back and let them move forward is there some mile markers or some metrics of which are trying to be hit so that the court goes back to some independence and then perhaps there may or may not be a need for these positions in this reclassified role?

Well, actually the positions are in the consolidated justice downtown, so that's for the seven justices of piece that are there. I think the Chief Justice is looking for an opportunity to have the independence of the AHA court returned. What those metrics would be are really up to her. I can only speak to we have been ordered to provide level of service to AHAO Justice Court and that's what we are trying to do. If Justice Court in AHAO was removed from the authority of the Superior Court, these two positions would still have roughly 50 employees reporting to them and have a level of responsibility that would warrant the Division Director position.

The Chief Justice the action on AHO in December really trying to be responsive to Justice Williams in the process that her court administrator wasn't present. Justice Williams was seeking help from human services in the county, was trying to do payroll, was trying to figure out how to run the administration of the court that she was not familiar with. And so what has to happen in terms of the Chief Justice's decision about where the authority for administration is, is really up to her and when she feels like the AHA Justice Court is capable of running itself again. Thank you. You

are welcome.

Supervisor Conham?

Thank you, Chair Allen. And it's a pleasure to see both of you. Mr. Overholt, I want to thank you for coming today and I sympathize with both parties and the frustration that I'm sure you've experienced, particularly in Naho. It is important that we seek continued mediation so that we can come to an understanding where both parties can feel hurt.

That is the District five's goal in all of this. Certainly, I anticipate that it is a shared goal of all parties. My patience is getting limited because this has also gotten the attention of the legislature. And legislative action has also gotten the interest of both parties. And when that's happening, it tells me that we need a mediator to come into this.

And so I encourage the judicial system to figure out how we can come together, move forward, honor those who want to ensure the administration of the court is upheld and also honor the integrity of those who are elected to those roles. I'm always going to be advocating for additional resources to all of our justice courts. And I recognize that getting to this point, your position is that this will help the court and I certainly sympathize with that. But the elected leaders of that court need to be a part of the decision making body and I urge you to carry that message to the Chief Justice as well.

Chair Allen and Supervisor Kanna, we agree 100%. And the concept of mediation has been discussed with Judge Williams and with Judge Pesqueda and the court administrator at AHA and we will continue pursue that and see where we can we want to resolve this as well.

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Supervisor Scott.

I agree with sentiments expressed by my colleague from District 5 that the situation with Ajo justice court needs to be resolved. But given that the item before us item number 47 deals with court and that it is unfinished business from one of our meetings in February. I will go ahead and move item number 47.

Second. Seconded by Supervisor Hines. Discussion? Before I call the vote I'll just note that I am going to support this item because of the staff and the acknowledgment of the increased responsibilities and that they have a classification that corresponds with the work that they're doing but also echoing Supervisor Conno and Supervisor Scott's that independent of that the need to resolve the situation and I believe strongly that elected Judge Williams should be running her court. And how we figure out a solution in which the parties from the state Supreme Court, Superior Court and the AHA court judge feel good about where we are and that their respective positions.

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going to go now to item 36. This is the petition for relief of taxes for the St. Demetrios Greek Orthodox Church. I believe our speakers from called audience are still here. So I will move to accept the assessor's recommendation to approve for tax years 2023 and 2024. Second. Seconded by Supervisor Hines. Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Item passes, five zero.

Chair Allen? Supervisor Cano? Are we going to consider 35? Or can we, while we're at it? Yes. I move to approve item number 35.

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then, the order of starting sort to of towards the beginning 20 of the agenda and working our way through and then injecting things as we need to for time certains, which would then put us at item number Oh, Supervisor Kano.

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currently have 30 superior court judgeships in Pima County based on our latest population, census population, we would be eligible for six additional superior court judgeships. Ships. So the process is the Board of Supervisors should you decide to petition the Governor to create those additional positions and then she would make those appointments to the Superior Court. We have judicial officer positions called commissioners that we would be able to convert those and eliminate those positions through attrition if it's determined on the caseload that we have too many judges, which would be a problem I have never seen, but it could happen. So we could downsize on the commissioner side and upside on the superior court judge side.

The advantage of having superior court judges is they can hear any type of matter regardless of jurisdiction within the superior Court. So family, juvenile, criminal, civil, probate. Commissioners are pretty much limited to family and juvenile court and probate. So we would have more flexibility with Superior Court judges. The additional advantage to the county is that the state pays for half of a superior court judge position and the county pays 100% of the commissioner position. So it would actually reduce Directors the Directors

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dated of 03/16/2026 that's attached to this item. And on the first paragraph, page three, in the middle of that paragraph, it says, there are currently 18 court commissioners point. Point. I were created and that's judges pointed. I I'm going to support the item, but I'd like to see a plan from both Mr.

Overholt's office and Ms. Lesher's office as to how we could get that possible reduction in commissioners because to me that's one of the most attractive components of this proposal.

Supervisor Cano and then Supervisor Hines.

Thanks, Sharon. I want to thank the county administrator for working with our Superior Court leadership to bring this recommendation to the Board. For comparison Maricopa County has 98 Superior Court Justices, it's our largest county, the second largest Pima County has 30. Other counties throughout Arizona over the last several years have used a similar petition to the governor to request additional judgeships, Yavapai and Mojave. I firmly believe that this action will help save taxpayer resources and most importantly, ensure that we are able to process cases in a timely manner and that our Superior Court has the resources needed to ensure justice throughout our community.

Any person who comes to these Board of Supervisors meetings on a Tuesday will see the line outside of our Superior Court. It goes to show you that there are a lot of people going into that hearing room and more judges will be a good thing so that we can ensure justice throughout Pima County. I thank the administrator and the presiding judge and the administrator of the Superior Court for this

item. Supervisor Heinz?

Thank you, Chair Allen. And I would just like to thank Supervisor Conno for bringing this forward. I think this is a really great idea and I wish had thought of it. So good good work. I think this is gonna be good for a variety of reasons. And I did have the privilege of speaking with a couple of different judges in the superior court, and they are also very enthusiastically in support of this. And with regard to the commissioners, my understanding is most of them would be eligible to apply to become the superior court judges we're talking about. So they might not necessarily be just pushing people out the door. But a lot of them would be eligible and possibly interested in applying for these six spots if the Governor agrees?

Yes, Chair Allen and Supervisor Hynes, that's correct. Whenever there is an opening on the Superior Court for a judgeship, generally see some of our commissioners or judge pro tems that apply for those and they have been appointed in the past. And I think that could be a part of the plan that Supervisor Scott raised in terms of how do we do this that sort of matches up. We get judgeships, but we are going to convert commissioner positions through attrition and so the timing of that and when the Governor appoints the judgeships and when commissioners are ready to exit is going to be a tricky thing that we're going to have to work closely with Ms. Lesser and come up with a plan.

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Chair Allen, I believe the resolution stands as is because it is the petition to the court, to the governor to create the positions and we can work on the ministerial components separately. There

are no further questions. All those in favor of resolution number twenty twenty six-fifteen? Aye. Opposed? Resolution passes, five-zero.

Thank you very much and thank you for your courtesy taking us out of order.

Chair Allen. Supervisor Scott. I know we have a time certain item at eleven and then another time certain item at 11:30. But I know we also have both members of the community and staff who are interested in items seventeen, nineteen, and 24.

17. Thank you for doing Let's go to them then in that order. Number 17 is a hearing, and we have two speakers. All right, we got five speakers. This is item 17.

It's a hearing for liquor license for Solana Guest Ranch and Spanish Villas. Will call we've got two telephonic speakers. Longer on the line. Okay. So Novedo, Bottelli, Carrie.

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Yes, I know it. It needs an extender for height.

So essentially they were told that, oh yes, you're grandfathered in with this conditional use. However, the statute or excuse me, the ordinance is very clear that that conditional use elapses and that you must apply again if that nonconforming use is not used on the property for a year or more. And we have provided evidence. We did send an email a few days ago to code enforcement showing that this property has been not that to to we get to the bit And extent

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Of the water being drained out of this. And this is all being done under the guys that, oh, they had approval from zoning, but they don't actually have the zoning approval that they claim they did. And we're asking the Board of Supervisors to deny the liquor license for this location because we are going to be reaching out, we are going to be investigating more, we will be approaching code enforcement with these violations. And to exacerbate the current issues by also lot COVID-nineteen in in the the going be that we're going able

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Robert Burr and Chris Rebo.

A little shorter. I am Chris Rebo and everything he said is correct. And with the lighting going up the trees, are putting beams of light straight up the tree. So the whole thing is lit. And there is like a family of hawks that have been living in that tree for many, many years and we would photograph them flying in and out and around the area seeing the babies and stuff and they seem to be going away.

A lot of the birds on that property with the removal of several trees have gone away and now the birds seem to be flocking more towards my property and then the property on the other side of me because they are just just clearing everything. And it's a mesquite tree busk and you are not supposed to be cutting down all the trees. We have trees that are over 200 years old. Most of your trees in Tucson as far as mesquites, you are lucky if they are fifteen, twenty feet tall. I have forty, fifty foot trees on my property and with the drainage of the water, way they are sucking it down for their koi pond, these trees are going to start dying and we are going to lose a Mesquite Boss that has been there for a very long time.

And the road issues, they want to park cars not only in the parking lot that they cleared right next to my house, they also want to park them out in the street and it's like a one lane road. You could barely get up and down. When a car comes the other way, one person has to pull off to the side to let the other car go by. It you know, he shouldn't be there, and everything that he's doing, he keeps amplifying and building it up faster and faster and faster. Every time you go on his website, he's doing more and more.

And he is even talking about doing Sunday night barbecues. Just every chance he has, he just wants to milk it for all he can and he has no concern for the neighbors, the night skies. I can't see stars anymore. Everything is lit up and when he is having these parties it's noisy. Thank you. Robert

Barr.

Thank you again for letting me speak. And I hate to beat a dead horse and you've already heard quite a bit, but I want to pull at your heart a little question. I

question. That's

that's it's a drainage reservoir, but it's already filled with fish, it's not a drainage reservoir, it's a lie, right, it's a trick, it's trying to manipulate the system. If they're saying that it was always a gas ranch, but I've lived there for ten years, I know it's been vacant most of that time. I know they were growing some sort of plant there at some point before that. I know it's not been a guest ranch. So if they're using that as an excuse, it's a trick, it's a lie and it's trying to manipulate and I get it, I'm a business guy.

I'm not trying to prevent business or entrepreneurship, but this is a residential area and as I mentioned earlier the street is narrow. Kids play on that street, they go up and down the street. How are we going to drive in and out of the area? And everything that you can imagine as a family living in a house with cars flying back and able that. And going And that.

That. That. And But I have 10 that are there now and we intend on living there until the three year old moves out too. Again, I don't I'm not trying to go against entrepreneurship, but this was a bad move on their part and they're doing it by manipulating the system and kind of tricking it, at least that's way it appears to me. On the environmental side, absolutely.

As I mentioned earlier, my wife was in the shower last week when it turned off and then it waited a while and then turned back on. We can see the trees starting to suffer. It's obvious when you live in an area where there's a lot of trees, which is pretty amazing where we live, right? I mean Tucson doesn't normally have the Bosque area like we have, but it also means we can quickly see change. I can see that the owl that we used to see once or twice a week, all of a sudden we're not seeing the owl flying around.

We're not seeing the same birds that have been there in the past. So I just I don't know why they even built this business there. It doesn't make sense to me. Putting a liquor license in the middle of a resident a place with a liquor license in the middle of a residential area, nobody would ever think that that was okay. I don't know why they tried. It just doesn't seem to make sense to me. So again, I just encourage that you guys look at consider no, consider studies that get to the truth. Thank you.

Thank you. Are there any other speakers for the item? So with that I will close the hearing. And

Madam Chair?

Supervisor Christie please.

I'm sorry, go ahead with why you were closing.

No, just closing the item. Go right ahead. Good timing.

For purposes of discussion, I'd like to move the item.

For discussion, second.

Seconded by Supervisor Hines. Discussion?

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm listening to the individual speaking and I'm concerned and sort of wonderment why a liquor license would trigger all of these development services department complaints that we've never heard about. At this point, I would like to ask a representative from development services what the liquor license in all of it entails in the whole process of developing this business. I know there are a lot of ramifications that you have to comply with in order to obtain a liquor license and I think it would be helpful if we have an assessment and a report from development services.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Mr. Droszkowski is here and can speak to some of the zoning issues related to this property.

Good morning, Chair Allen, Supervisor Christie. Complicated request here, the property owner did go through our office for a legal nonconforming use on the property. There is a track record, comprehensive track record of commercial uses out there including the guest ranch use. That was approved in August 2025. Since that time I have not been out to the site but what we have heard today is that there's been some work done.

A check of permits right here at my desk shows no permits have been approved for. In responding to some of the comments that we've heard from the neighbors today, the lights and things like that, those are codified requirements that have to be secured. So we can investigate some of those. I can take that back to my team at development services and work closely with code enforcement to investigate those. The liquor licenses for the hotel use which is the most similar type of use compared to what a guest ranch was approved for back in the day.

Those were the guest ranches, Tanker Verde guest ranch, things like that. The thing that's unique in this case, wedding businesses, things like that, that's not allowed as part of this. It's guest ranch use and so the uses are only meant for the people who are at the guest ranch. I'll conclude my comments there. I'd be happy to answer any additional questions the Board has.

Madam Chair? Supervisor Christie?

At this point, seems to be some upended issues that are not dealt with or haven't been dealt with that need to be dealt with. There also seems to me that on the part of the property owners and the business owners that the best thing they can possibly do it in making sure that in addition to them being compliant with all permitting and regulations that they do some community outreach. I haven't heard any neighborhood meetings. I haven't heard any canvassing of community for their concerns. So I would like to continue I would move to continue this item until such time all of the issues have been addressed that we've been discussing today and they can come back before the Board for a future request, making sure that all of the Is are dotted and Ts across both in development services as well as in the community outreach.

Supervisor Hines?

Okay. Could I second that but still ask questions? Okay. Then I'll Yes. Second that.

Seconded by Supervisor Hines. Discussion?

Thank you, Chair. So from development services perspective, like board to move forward with this specific it's serious 11 with this license. Correct?

Chair Allen, supervisor Hines. In the note that was addressed in our report to the Board, it specifically talks about that this only applies to locations where permits have been secured. Some comments have been made today about things being done without permits potentially out there. So the liquor license would only apply to areas where a tenant improvement, commercial permit, the standards that apply for our building code and zoning standards are already ensure that the liquor license is not used in locations that have not been permitted. Some of these structures may be residential in nature or barns or things like that.

Well if we're going to convert those to non residential uses, there there are strict standards that apply and have to be adhered to.

Thank you. Chair Allen, did the enforcement and monitoring of this falls to you, us, or is this the Arizona Liquor Board?

My understanding is that the liquor licenses approved through the state with input from the county. In regards to the code enforcement complaints, the lighting, the koi pond, buildings that were constructed or adjusted without permits, that falls under our team at code enforcement in DEQ and I'll work with them directly on that. I'm not sure if our team's been out there yet. We'll make sure we get out there and I'll address it with them in the next couple of days.

Okay. Thank you.

Chair Allen. Supervisor Scott. Given Mr. Driscowski's comments, I'm very much in support of Supervisor Christie's motion, especially since he's saying that he doesn't want it to come back onto an agenda until the board has affirmation from development services that all of the other concerns by the adjacent property owners have been addressed. I

would also just request unless you can answer this now that part of the investigation is into the continued use of the property for commercial use so that that gets clarified because we've heard from the neighbors that there has not been continuous use.

Sure, Alan, we will look into that.

Supervisor Christie, question for you. Is there a date by which you want this to come back onto the agenda?

No specific date. That would be up to the developers and the Department of Developmental Service. When they are confident that the issues that we have raised here at today's meeting with both the community, the developers and development services, then between the three of them, they can determine at what opportune time to bring it back before the Board.

Okay.

Maybe I don't know, I should probably throw that question back to development services, the developer and the community, how long do you think it would take that could adequately address all of the issues, what three months?

Chair Allen, Supervisor Christie. From a development services perspective, we'll begin our research immediately. I'll talk to code or so to get them out to the site, investigate what complaints are going on out there. We'll have a good understanding of what's going on in the next week or so to see if there's violations and things done without permits. Some of the other questions about neighbor outreach would probably be best addressed to the property owner or their representative.

I don't want to put any kind of specific timeframe and then find out that the issues that we are concerned with weren't adequately dealt with. So I'm going to leave that up to development services and the developer and the community to come together and make an agreement at what particular time it would be most opportune to bring back. But I would say just to start things, I would ask that the item be brought back before the Board within three months.

Is that clear direction? Cherilyn, I'd just like to point out that the liquor license is issued by the Department of Liquor License and Control and they can move forward without a local jurisdiction recommendation. I just want to point that out.

Allen. Supervisor Scott? Let me ask the clerk clarify based on what you just said, Manriquez, does the State Department have a record of moving forward without the local jurisdiction's recommendation or do they generally wait for it?

Chair Allen, Supervisor Scott, I'm not sure. I would have to contact them and ask them.

Thank you very much. So

we've got a second to that motion. All those in favor of the motion? Aye. Opposed? No. It passes five-zero. Thank you. We are a little behind, so appreciate the patience of those who are here for the 11:00 time certain, which is agenda item number 40. This is the canvas of the election results for the March. Madam Chair. Supervisor Christie.

May I just suggest something that we merge number 40 with the of course, the 40 is the canvas of the special election. Could we add addendum number six and deal with it at the same time?

I believe we can. I'm assuming those are six is that you had some questions and we can integrate those Yes,

just

basically statements or areas to bring before both the recorder and the Department of Elections Director.

Can I ask

you one question? Okay.

And before we get into it, just want one question. In so doing, we also have an 11:30 time certain, so that's fifteen minutes. We'll combining these two items.

I'll be quick.

Okay. All right. So then for I don't actually know how you combine items. Time. We're here at the

Chair Allen, can I ask a quick question? Supervisor Scott. With regard to the 11:30 time certain that's for executive session. Do we have guests from outside the Board the

of to item 40. Directors

Madam Chair.

Supervisor Christie.

Madam Chair. Yes. Thank you. I would like to move that we approve the canvass of the special election associated on the item.

Second.

Seconded by Supervisor Hines. Discussion? Are any of our guests today here to speak to the item? Just? All right. Okay.

Madam Chair. Supervisor Kano. Make very brief comments thanking our elections and recorders team for their diligent work in this election. Their work always is stellar and of course want to thank them for the many hours they put into this successful election. And to the voters, thank you for participating.

All right. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Canvas of the election passes five-zero. And then on to addendum item number six.

May I proceed, Ben? Yes. First of all, I want to thank both the recorder and our elections director for attending today. I'm sure after the election and all that entailed, they're probably breathing deeper and probably Director of Elections is sleeping easier. Ms.

Hargrove, hope you are anyway. First of I want to thank Director Hargrove. She reached out to our office in the beginning of the month and was very proactive, and I just want to share what she is suggesting when we have brought up or I brought up in the last meeting that both the recorder and the elections director generate an after actions report on the special election we just went through. And Director Hargrove writes to me, she says, You mentioned an after election report during the meeting yesterday. What type of information do you have in mind for the report?

Are you looking for statistical information related to ballot processing or more of an overall explanation of events with ballot information. For instance, I can include the Board of Supervisors' approval to call the election, the IGA and statutory requirements, the cost of the election and authorized fees and a few years of ballot processing comparisons. Please let me know what will be most beneficial for constituents. That was proactive action on the Director's part. I'm very grateful for it.

And to respond to her inquiries regarding an after actions report, Director Hargrove, yes to all of the above. That would be a very comprehensive after action report that I would very much appreciate as you outlined in your conveyance to me. I'd like to ask the oh, and one other thing. There was a memorandum just sent out regarding ballot proofing and call center functioning. If Director Hargrove could include an analysis of those items in her after action report, that would be most helpful and appreciated too.

To Madam Recorder, looking at the canvas and tallying things up, there are some areas that we would very much appreciate your after after action action report to include and to address. Beginning with we would like a breakdown of A, the number of ballots received by mail B, the number of ballots received at each early voting site C, the number of ballots received by the Vote Mobile d, a trend analysis of total amount of ballots returned unvoted and e, the number of days the observers were allowed and at what locations. Those breakdowns would be much appreciated and very insightful. And with that, if the Madam Recorder, if you could include regarding the boatmobile, your thoughts or the thoughts of your staff perhaps I'm sorry, I can't see from where I'm at. Madam McCord is not here.

Is that correct? It's her assistant. I'm directing them to her. If you could include regarding the boatmobile opportunities as you assess them for improvement and an in-depth report of its intended use in the future, its functionality, its equipment, its staffing and further utilization. If the recorder's office could provide that in their after action report, it would be most comprehensive and I think very illuminating to all of us and answer a lot of questions that are out there.

And as far as timing, I would ask both the recorder's office and the elections director to determine at this point with a month from now or next month at one of the meetings, how soon could these after action reports be compiled?

Chair Allen, Supervisor Christie, a month is sufficient.

That was Director Hargrove, I believe?

Indeed it was.

And from the elections department or excuse me, the recorder's office?

Supervisor Christie, the recorder's office can also provide that information within a month.

Within a month that would be fine from our standpoint and very much appreciated. And I think I gave you five minutes cushion, Madam Chair.

Right. Supervisor Hines.

Thank you. I just wanted to acknowledge the immediate past Chair of the RTA Board, Mayor Winfield, who is with us today and as well as Mike Ortega. And under their leadership, we got the RTA to the ballot and successfully approved by the voters. So I just wanted to acknowledge their help as well as, of course, Jan Leschers, the entire technical management committee, Katherine Skinner, and so many others. Thank you all. Thank you for being here.

I echo that. Thank you for being here. And thank you to our elections leadership for being here as well, and More importantly, running effective elections. Thank you to all your team members. Okay.

That's it for item six on the addendum. We have eight minutes until our next time certain. I know we have people here for a couple of hearings, so we are going to see if we can fit in item number 19. This is a hearing substantial change of rezoning conditions for Lechoya Investments. Do we have anyone here to speak for the hearing?

Chair Allen. Supervisor Scott. If there are no speakers, I would move to close the public hearing and affirm the recommendation from both staff and the planning and zoning condition, the commission to approve subject to original and modified standard and special conditions.

I will second.

Thank you. Madam Chair, I'm sorry, what item are we on now?

This is regular agenda item number 19.

Acceptance, community and workforce development?

No, it is a hearing for LaCholla Investments, regular agenda item. I think the workforce development item might be in the consent agenda. Flip up towards the front.

19, yes, I have it. Thank you, Madam Sheridan.

I do have a question about water recycling. And I am interested in knowing about what is currently in place, what could be in place to ensure that car washes of which we have many and apparently more and whether it's this one and or future ones could be in place around requiring the use of recycled water or is capturing water for recycled purposes?

Sure. Alan, I'll make a couple of comments and then the applicant can probably talk about the specific water harvesting recycling features of this specific car wash. So this topic did come up at the Planning and Zoning Commission a couple months ago about the water recycling, how that's done, where they reuse it, where they don't, how water is treated, things like that. From a development services perspective concerns of the board about water recycling, address that. We'll be transparent, we'll work with applicants in the future right at the very beginning to make sure they provide you know clear documentation about what they're doing, what percentage, how much of the water is recyclable, how it's cleaned, things like that.

We can definitely do that in the future for any water car washes that come forward.

Love that.

Chair Allen, members of the Board, Rory Junman, 5983 East Grant Road. We represent Houston Street Investments, who's the property owner here. It's a great question, Chair Allen. I think these the new modern car washes are already implementing water saving techniques just because it's a cost to them and they want to be be as efficient as possible. The one important thing is all the water in any of the newer car washes is recycled back to the sewer.

They're not put they're not wasted. It goes back into the sewer system where it's treated and either recycled in our reclaim system or goes back into our aquifers through that process. But even within the own the contained system of the car wash, they do recycle a good portion of that water. Essentially, when you drive your car in, you initially get a rinse of clean water, but that water funnels down into a tank where the solids and the water is kind of separated. The water part of that is then reinserted into the system, usually washing kind of the under carriage of a car.

But in that second stage, it's reclaimed water from the system itself, not from our reclaimed system, but from the actual tank in the car wash unit. And at the end, there's a clean rent. So there's already a significant amount of water that's being kind of recycled within that system. But then at the end, everything goes back into the sewer system where it's recycled in our overall water system.

Any other questions? Items moved. No more discussion. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Item passes five-zero.

Madam Chair. Supervisor Kano. While we have some time briefly before we head out, I'm hoping that we might be able to consider item number three, should be very brief on the addendum.

And then Chair Allen, Allen, to go back to what I had requested earlier because we have staff and members of the public here for twenty four. So if there's a way of going into exec a little later than 11:30, I'd appreciate it.

Okay. Supervisor Cunningham, you were saying that item three on the addendum is a quick item?

Yes.

Okay. Alright. Let's hear item 24 because there are able to So,

think

eight. Is anyone here to speak to the item? Ir If you could fill out the yellow hearing speakers card before you leave

We are do that. Are asking not for is you to look at the application and see that we were in business for three years and we can save the city and the Pima County $50,000 a year and over five years it's $250,000 that you could get the right to we

we close the hearing right for solicitation number IFP25027838. Since

you've closed the hearing I'd like like to move that we grant the appeal from the applicant.

Second. Seconded by Supervisor Conno.

Thank you and the reason I'm making the request is if you go to the memorandum from the county administrator that's attached to this item dated March 19, the next to last paragraph says the appeal does not provide grounds to alter or overturn the procurement director's decision. The county's evaluation was conducted in accordance to procurement rules. Information provided after the bid deadline cannot cure a material deficiency or render a non responsive bid response. I appreciate and honor the fact that our procurement staff was acting according to their regulations. But when it comes to an appeal before the board, I think the board can take into consideration the fact that the applicant by their own admission made a clerical error on the submission.

They did provide documents which are attached to the item as well that show that they have been in operation for over three years. And although the procurement department was not able to consider those documents, the board certainly can. The other consideration that I'd like us to take into account was stated by the applicant which is that their bid will save the county $50,000 a year, dollars 250,000 over the course of a five year period and then I would point out something else for my colleagues, which is that the applicant for the appeal is a local vendor, whereas the awardee is not a local vendor. So that is why I'm requesting that we grant the appeal and I appreciate the second from Supervisor Cano.

Supervisor Heinz?

Just to clarify what will this actually do? Does this just sort of re reset

the process and it goes back to procurement? Or is this the Board actually kind of just saying, no, we want this tender instead? Clarify

Chair Allen, members of the Board, I would just like to address several facts that have been addressed here. The recommendation as noted in the information that has been provided, The information provided acknowledges a mistake and the information submitted where they verify they have been in business for eight years was submitted after the bid was opened and closed. This board has, during my tenure here, approved the disqualification of bidders that submitted information afterwards or incorrectly. This President that we are contemplating does not treat all of the bidders equally and fairly and so I respectfully ask that this action that is being proposed is not taken so that we can maintain the integrity of treating all bidders fairly. And just a correction also, respectfully, both bidders have a local office here in Tucson.

I will remind the Board that we do not have a local bid preference and that locality cannot be considered in the ward. However, both bidders have a local bid preference.

Again I respect the procurement director's statement and the need for his staff to follow the regulations that they follow but when it comes to appeals to the board I think that we have other considerations to take into account. And I think one of the most significant considerations is that this will save the county $250,000 over the course of five years. And I think that's something that this board has a fiduciary responsibility to consider. I also think that although the procurement team might have been not have been able to look at the documentation that the applicant provided after the fact, I think the Board has the ability to do that and that's why I'm asking that we grant this appeal. Supervisor

Heinz?

Could staff answer my question though, please, from before?

If the Board was to approve the appeal, the procurement department would rebid this item. Okay.

Thank you for clarifying.

Madam Chair? Supervisor Christie.

Yes, this I think has a potential to set some sort of a rather ugly precedent and it kind of neuters what the procurement regulations are and yes, it makes sense to bend the rules here and there, but I think it casts aspersions perhaps process and the staff. I'm wondering if Attorney Brown could weigh in on this. Is this precedent going to create any kind of exposure or liability on the county's part by showing that even though the procurement director was absolutely correct and the department in its assertation of the procedure by going against what the procurement department is proposing, does that have any kind of ramifications from any kind of legal exposure?

Chair Allen, Supervisor Christie. I think the concern that you may be alluding to are prior bidders

who

may be in similar situation who may want similar treatment. I can't speak to specific instance but that may certainly be a concern. We'd have to look at the prior bidders that are similarly situated.

Chair Allen. Supervisor Scott. Thank you. I'm going to quote from the letter that Mr. Collins, Director Collins sent to Mr.

Good, the owner of Elite Waste doing business as Dumpster Guys. Item number five in his letter says if you are adversely affected by this decision, you may appeal to the Pima County Board of Supervisors by filing a written appeal with the clerk of the board within five business days of the date of this decision in accordance with Pima County Code Section 11.20.10H. If an appeal is filed on time, the Board will consider the matter at a regularly scheduled meeting within thirty business days. The Board may uphold the procurement director's decision or determine and impose an alternative remedy as appropriate. So we are acting within our rights under Pima County Code and in response to supervisor Heinz's question, if the appeal is granted that means that it'll be rebid which means that everybody will have an equal opportunity to participate and I think given the circumstances raised by the applicant they ought to have that opportunity.

Chair Allen, can I just speak again? I just want to remind the board in regards to Supervisor Christie's comment, this board has approved when the procurement department has been deemed somewhat non responsive for similar error, this board has approved the procurement department's recommendation. So during my tenure, have disqualified or deemed non responsive other bidders for making a comparable error in their bid. Chair, and To receive information after a bid has been opened is extremely uncommon in the procurement profession.

Every situation has its own context and its own circumstances. And I took these circumstances into consideration when I made the motion to approve the appeal. The director is certainly correct that during his tenure we haven't affirmed any appeals but given the circumstances associated with this particular appeal, I feel it's a good

question.

Discussion? That's I All those in favor? Aye. Those opposed? No. Motion passes, three-two. Thank you. Thank you. We are nine minutes past due. Do we I think we have to break for executive oh, yep. All right, addendum item number three. Supervisor Connolly.

Thank you, Chair Allen. With last week's news brought forth by The New York Times, I know that our community is devastated and our hearts are broken. Today, we lift up the names of Dolores Huerta, Ana Morguilla, and Deborah Drojas. We say their names because too many survivors of sexual abuse have been expected to carry pain and silence, and silence cannot be our answer. This is why Pima County must speak out now.

The pain Mr. Chavez caused these three women disgraceful and inexcusable, and our community is grieving. The fight for farm workers, dignity, and social justice was rooted in the Southwest, and Arizona was part of that struggle. Agriculture remains an important part of our state's economy, and Arizona farm workers, many of them immigrants, continue the hard work of feeding families and sustaining communities across this country. I say this because we can be proud of the farm worker movement and continue that fight for justice, and we can honor that movement while also telling the truth.

And the reality is that Pima County should not continue honoring mister Chavez when so much harm has come to light. With the approval of this item, the board is sending a message to move

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the not that. Able we're consideration to approve the item. Second.

Seconded by Supervisor Hines. Discussion? You know, I thank you, Supervisor Cano, for bringing this. It is a difficult item in the sense that it's a difficult time. And I think we have our community has been it's disturbing unsettling ground rug pulled out underneath you.

I thank case. And And whether I it is from the White House to Wall Street to social movements. Know, and this is a powerful reminder, that movements, the gains of the farm workers was not done through one person. Movements are always more than one person. And the strength and resilience of women who continue to lead and have led that movement, I think speaks and attests to the strength that is there of survivors of sexual harassment and sexual assault.

So I support this item and again thank you for bringing it forward.

Chair Allen. Supervisor Scott. I also want to thank my colleague from District 5 for bringing this item up because I know that it to have been painful for him to do so. But we owe it to the victims in this situation, one of whom felt that she had to be silent for sixty years. Sixty years.

We owe it to them to honor not only their pain and their victimhood, but also to send the right message to future generations that we are not going to stand by and tolerate this kind of behavior no matter how long it takes for it to come to light. So I'll proudly support the item. Again, thanks Supervisor Conno for his leadership and courage.

All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Item passes five-zero. With that, we will go into executive session. I will note we have a long list of items in executive session, so

think question.

In favor? Aye. Opposed? Executive session bound we are. We're back from such a speedy executive session.

Like we never left. We are going to run through some of the executive session items quickly. Regular agenda item is for information only. Regular agenda item 11 was information only. Agenda item number 12, information only.

Addendum item let's see. Agenda item number 30, information only. Item addendum item number two was information only. Am I okay. Thank you.

Addendum item four was also information only. Alright. So then to go to their corresponding agenda items, we've got regular agenda item number 15, which is the hearing code text amendment on the regulation of unidentified masked groups. I will make the motion to continue the hearing, right, to continue the item which continues the hearing, for ordinance number twenty twenty six dash two until the following meeting. Second.

Seconded by supervisor. Hines. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Continuance passes five-zero. Regular agenda item 37. This corresponds with executive session item number 11. So Item 37, I will make the motion to approve as discussed in Executive Session. Second.

Seconded by Supervisor Cano. Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion passes five-zero. Regular agenda item 38, settlement in Marshall Foundation. I will move to approve the settlement as recommended. Second. Seconded by Supervisor Hines. Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion passes.

Five, zero. Regular agenda item 31, county administrator hiring process. This was a discussion item. We are going to be rolling out and making public the job announcement and the process with the public facing web page for the replacement hiring of our county administrator as of April 15. We are going to very robust process, a national process that involves a hiring committee comprised of community leaders.

There will be input from employees. We see a final decision from the Board of Supervisors. There are other key elements of the process that my colleagues would like to discuss and mention. Supervisor Connoe.

Thank you, Chairman Allen. We were unable to convince.

I'm sorry to interrupt. I don't know if you can hear me or not, but I don't see or hear anybody in the Board meeting room.

While we work on that, I wanted to of course thank Chair Allen for outlining a process that the Board can come consensus on. We were unable to convince the County administrator to renew her contract for another four years. But we certainly look forward to beginning a conversation with our community about ways in which we will hire a county administrator with the public in mind with core objectives for this new role and look forward to putting forth some of the names from District 5 that will participate on the search committee and look forward to that committee bringing to us the names for the candidates who will be our next county administrator. This is a process that I'm looking forward to engaging the public in and want to thank the Chair for outlining, as I said, the process that will help us get to this new chapter in Pima County. All

right. More to come on the process. I'm going to move us along and continue to knock up any more of the regular agenda items that correspond with executive session items. Addendum item seven. And then I promise we'll stop all this jumping around and go back as much as we can to following a numeric flow. Addendum item seven.

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Okay.

Addendum item number five. Visor Hines.

Thank you very much. So as we all found out about two weeks ago in this community, and I was disturbed by, saddened by, the sheriff, apparently, when moving we have seen that a considerable amount of material, a work history, a particularly concerning work history was omitted.

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Okay. I think we're still having some technical difficulties. But and that look. You can't lie on your job applications. You can't lie under oath.

As a physician, nurses, all the folks that I work with, like, you you can't make up your credentials. And what really affected me most about this was history in Pima County for forty two years seems to be based on a fraud. And I I really I feel feel very strongly about this at a time when trust in our government, trust in our government entities, officials in particular, is at an all time low. Having this kind of information come out about the highest ranking law enforcement official for the largest largest law enforcement agency in Southern Arizona is incredibly troubling and very serious. So how how did this happen?

I'm not entirely clear on that, but from what I can tell from the two applications I've been furnished with as of yesterday from my public records request, information with regard to the, adverse history was omitted by the sheriff at the time that he applied for a position forty two years ago. The history in question, I'm sure most have seen this included in the course of five years, eight suspensions including one for fifteen days for excessive use of force that landed, somebody in ICU who was beaten by the sheriff while handcuffed with his flashlight, and also got the El Paso Police Department sued. So this information, I bring this up, because all of our peace officers have to be post certified. You have to be, accept accept elect sheriffs and constables. So this is something in fact, chiefs of police have to be AZ post certified as well.

So that means Mhmm. For whatever reason, the application process happened many years ago. He got hired, and he somehow got AZ post certification. I don't know how that could have possibly happened if everyone is being truthful. So we have this very disturbing arc, I find, because we have evidence of some falsification or lies of omission, however you wanna say it, forty plus years ago, and then a multi decade long career here.

And then last December, the sheriff, while in a sworn deposition, also appears to have have testified falsely with regard to his work history. This is something that law enforcement cannot do. None of us can do. You you can't lie on your job application. You can't you can't can't commit perjury. Right? That's not none of there will be consequences for that. It's especially important that there that that we hold elected officials and especially law enforcement elected officials to the highest of standards. And I'm concerned about

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And looking at the history, like, I'm not all that surprised when I found this out because because of my own witnessed experiences working with the sheriff and his management of the sheriff's department. I mean, you know, lots of things. The the Rico investigation that didn't result in any charges being filed, but almost did back in twenty fifteen, sixteen. We had right after I I took office some of the per capita inexplicably high jail death rates for three of those first years. Every year, a budget overrun, though this year maybe not, but, like, over and over.

And this board has referred the sheriff for investigation, attorney general, rape investigation concerns, possible election interference in '24. I attached things to this item to to to make it really clear of the things that that that happened. And those things have consequences. Like three at least three civil lawsuits as a result of these actions. So this is about accountability and preventing further erosion of public trust in in the county government and in county law enforcement.

It's not fair that bad decisions by one individual should be reflecting poorly on, frankly, the department, all of us in government, all of us in the county. And so that is why I brought forward this item for discussion. And, yeah, I'm happy to hear my colleagues input as and hopefully Steve will supervisor Christie will be available in a moment. And if he's not, I can keep talking until he is if he wants to say something. I don't know. Not quite sure what to do here.

Well, I'm being unsure as to when supervisor Christie is gonna be able to be connected back in, I am happy to move the item forward. So I would make the motion that we proceed as discussed in Executive Session, and that we direct outside counsel to draft language to request reports, from the sheriff aligned with ARS eleven dash 253, section a, and return that the attorneys return to us with that on April 7 meeting. And then to clarify ARS eleven-two 53 A and what that says and means. Ars eleven-two 53 reports and bonds of county officers. Section A is that the Board may require any County officer to make reports under oath on any matter connected with the duties of his office and may require the officer to give such bonds or further bonds as may be necessary for faithful performance of his respective duties.

Any officer who neglects or refuses to make the report or to give the bond within ten days after being so required may be removed from the office by the Board and the office declared vacant. The Board may then fill the vacancy. I will second that. Seconded by Supervisor Hines. Discussion?

Are you back, Supervisor Supervisor Christie?

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Okay, I will skip reading of the statute, but the motion is to proceed as discussed in executive session and direct outside counsel to draft language to request reports aligned with ARS eleven-two 53 Section A and to return with that on 04/07/2026. And to clarify, the returning is from the lawyers to us at the next meeting, and there will be an item on executive session that corresponds with this motion. And that motion was seconded. It's open now for discussion. Any further discussion?

If not, all those in favor? Opposed? Item passes five-zero. Okay. That got us through the executive session items and then their mishmash of regular agenda and the addendum, my apologies for all the hopping back and forth.

We are now back to a better flow of items. We are going to go to item number 13, sitting as the Flood Control District Board. This is a contract with TEP. I will move the item. Second. Seconded by Supervisor Hines. Any discussion? In favor? Aye. Opposed?

Item pass is five-zero. Sitting is the Stadium District Board. This is a supplier contract award. I will move the item.

Second.

Seconded by Supervisor Hines. Any discussion? All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Item passes five-zero. We are moving on to some remaining hearings. We've got item hearing 16. It is a number have future. About about about Board Board the of

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Supervisor Hines voted no.

Item passes four one. We are now moving on to hearing item number 18. It is a rezoning hearing. Is there anyone here to speak to this item? Slides for the items as well?

Yes, they'll look very familiar probably to the board.

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This is just a background on battery energy storage systems generally. So they're not really power generation resources. It's really more of an energy reservoir. So they have the function of being able to store excess energy and then being able to dispatch that same energy back into the grid when there's peak demand. And what that effectively does is it smooths the supply and demand of energy over time, which really lowers cost for ratepayers and also has the ability to extend the life of renewables on the grid.

And there's already 50 projects in operation that are similar to this one throughout the state. Next slide. Great, so we're here today seeking approval for our rezoning after we received a unanimous recommendation for approval for a rezone at the January this year from subject to the conditions that are outlined in the staff report, which we agree with. So we are seeking approval for rezoning from the suburban homestead to general industrial, which conforms to the comprehensive plan land use designation as industrial. I think we can skip ahead actually.

We can skip the next couple of slides. Yeah, we can skip that one too. I think it's outlined pretty well. This is just a snapshot of the property. So the main project site is located on that 18 acre rectangle on private property and it includes a generation power line to interconnect that goes through a right of way through the Arizona State land property to the And that.

To Great. And So yes, this is something I just really wanted to highlight. I touched on this last time we presented this project for a comprehensive plan amendment, but outside of just the energy benefits in terms of providing grid resilience and extra storage capacity asset on the grid and being able to hopefully lower the cost of energy by smoothing the supply and demand of energy. There's also direct benefits in the form of tax revenue for the county directly, and we expect that this project will be able to provide up to almost $4,000,000 in tax revenue over the lifetime of the project and over half of that revenue would go directly to the Sunnyside School District. So yes, we can go to the next slide, which just shows that breakdown in a little bit more detail.

But essentially, this project, we feel really poses no additional burden, very minimal additional burden to the community being out of sight, out of sound from any nearby residences, which are over 2,000 feet away. No added traffic during operations and doesn't require any water during operations. So very little burden to the community, but the opportunity for immense benefit in the form of the energy and increasing renewable energy to the grid, grid resilience and direct tax benefit. Next slide, please. Great.

This is just a little bit more detailed site plan layout. This is preliminary, but just showing that we are outside of that wash area with the appropriate setbacks from the riparian regulated area. And this is just a little bit of the best configuration. You can see the majority of the infrastructure is just really taking up about half of that 18 acre parcel and with site access off of South Wilmot Road. Next slide.

Great. This is just another snapshot. I like this photo because it captures what it would look like from the nearest residents. Our nearest neighbor is the Federal Corrections Institute across the street on Wilmot Road. You're not able to see that building, and our project would actually be shorter than those buildings with a maximum height of 15 feet.

So we're pretty confident you won't be able to see this project from any nearby residences. Next slide. Great. This is all the due diligence that we've done to date, including consultation with our nearest neighbor. We've also met with the fire department and this is on the right are all the studies including some that are outlined in the conditions for approval that we still plan to complete prior to construction, which is still right now set not set until 2029. So still a ways out from construction. And yeah, I think that concludes our presentation. Thank you so much.

Thank you. I move to close the public hearing and approve rezoning request P25RZ0002 Wilmot eight thousand eight ninety LLC, subject to standard and special conditions.

Second?

Second by Mr. Scott. Any further discussion?

Any further discussion?

All those in favor?

Aye.

Those opposed? Item passes five-zero. Thank you so much. Then just as a heads up we're going to get through the hearings quickly in case there's some more people that are here for it and then we're going to move to the presentations from staff who have also been patiently waiting. So that's just the general direction of where we're going. So item number 20 our next so item number 20. It's a hearing plat note modification. Anyone here to speak to the hearing?

Chair Allen. Supervisor Scott. Thank you. I would move that we close the public hearing and affirm staff's recommendation to approve the plat note modification. Second.