Planning & Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

You're keeping us on time. All right. Good evening. I'd like to call the meeting to order at 700 p.m. Uh we have one commissioner absent this evening, Commissioner Dilus. Um first up, citizen communication. Uh, the Planning and Zoning Commission welcomes comment on items relevant to the Planning and Zoning Commission not already scheduled on tonight's agenda. In accordance with the Texas Attorney General's opinion, any public comment that is made on an item that's not on the published agenda will only be heard by the commission. No formal action, discussion, deliberation, or comment will be made by the commission. Each person providing public comment will be limited to three minutes and will be asked to state his or her name and address for the public record. Uh, is there anyone wishing to to address the commission this evening? And I do have several folks on specific agenda items. So, we'll call you up uh during that public hearing. Is there anyone uh else wishing to speak? All right. Seeing none, uh we will move on to item number three, which is our consent agenda. All matters listed under the consent agenda are considered routine by the commission and will be enacted by one motion. The items include preliminary and final plats where staff has found compliance with all minimum subdivision regulations. All items approved by consent are approved with any and all staff recommendations. There will not be separate discussion of these items. However, if any commissioner desires to discuss an item, uh we can pull it and place it on the regular agenda for further consideration. Uh we have 3 A, approving the amended 2025 planning and zoning commission meeting schedule. 3B, a preliminary plat for Weiss Kelly subdivision, and 3 C approving the PNZ commission minutes for May 6, 2024. Uh are there any of those items that a commissioner would wish to remove from the consent agenda? All right, I'll entertain a motion. Move to approve. I'll second. All right, all in favor? I any opposed? All right, motion passes. Thank you very much. All right, next up on the agenda. Uh we do

have two uh three public hearings this evening. Uh the first one, item 4 A, uh which is for a specific use permit uh for the proceed use of a lounge within the downtown district overlay. And Kristen is here to present. Good evening, chair and commission. Um, so tonight we have the applicant has is requesting a specific use permit for a property located at 701 West PCON for a lounge use. A lounge use um offers patrons a relaxing environment where food, alcohol, and tobacco can be consumed. It is different from a restaurant or bar tavern as 50% of no more than 50% of its total sales come from food or alcohol sales. Okay. Um the property is a unplatted piece of property that was included within the city when it incorporated in 1965. In 1984 the first zoning was applied to the property and through zoning updates is general business one today. It is also included in the downtown district overlay that was formed in 2004. Okay. In 2019, there was a lounge permitted by Wright at the property. Um in 2020, a um through updates to the downtown district overlay land uses were amended. At that time, the lounge use was amended from permitted by right to conditional specific use. Meaning that if the use can can meet the conditions then it is permitted by right. If it cannot then a specific use permit is required. At that time the use was permitted to continue as a legal nonconformity provided it met uh state law and subchapter 8 of the unified development code nonconformities.

Um the property um has subsequently been deemed abandoned and the use must now conform to the current unified development code and regulations for the downtown district overlay. The property is zoned general business one. The lounge use is permitted by right um within this zoning district except when the zoning district is in the downtown district overlay. Um, the downtown district overlay is an overlay that provides additional land use and site design requirements. Per the conditions for this use in the downtown district from property to property line, the use must be located 200 ft away from a single family detach town home or duplex use or otherwise permitted by a specific use permit. Um, as you can see in the map, the use from property to property line is only 90 feet and therefore the applicant is required to seek a specific use permit. So if it wasn't for that way be permitted by right. Correct. Okay. Um, so this is on the screen are the criteria to approve an SUP. Um the staff has found that the use is harmonious and compatible with the surrounding land uses as it directly abuts uh other land uses that are considered commercial and is included within the downtown um subcore district of the downtown overlay which has many other commercial uses. The activities requested by the applicant are in line and um are normally associated with the request for a lounge. The nature of the use is reasonable. The property is zoned commercially um and if not uh in the downtown district overlay would be permitted by right. Um the applicant

will be required to address all site designs and uh meet all other code of ordinances codes for the uh property upon um approval of the SUP before they can open the propert um before they can open the business. Um so staff has found that the um lounge meets these criteria and is recommending approval with conditions. The lounge use is limited to the interior of the um 3200 square foot existing structure on site. Um the applicant is here to answer questions tonight. Um as well as staff is available to answer questions. All right. Thank you. Uh yeah, did the applicant wish to I think did I hear they had something to share or No, they're here to answer your questions, but they do not have a presentation. Gotcha. Okay. All right. Well, before we get into that, let's go ahead and um take advantage of the fact that we've got the public hearing open to um address some folks who have signed up. Uh first of all, and these will be roughly in the order you all turned them in. Uh first of all, we have uh Chris Gary, and forgive me if I get any of your names in correct. Yes. Uh good evening. My name is Chris Garry. Uh I am the pastor of administration and children at First Baptist Churchville, who is the next door neighbor to this property. Our church has been in the community for 52 years. Uh excited about what's happening downtown, the new growth and new opportunities that are taking place. Also being a part of the western gateway to the new downtown. We're excited to be that that piece of property that's right there on that corner of Tentth and PCON. Looking forward to seeing what uh is going to happen with the city. We're really

excited about that. We're also concerned about uh the property at 107 West Pont. Um, our congregation of over a thousand members are concerned about this special use permit to serve alcohol right next door to us, right across the street from uh Fugerville ISD's Pace campus and our family neighborhood right behind that backs right up to that property. um not just for the cigar uh shop who wants to move in there, but for any business that would move into that location, we we have the same concerns. Um we understand that the cigar shop has to move because the city has purchased the property that it currently leases and so it has to find a new place to live and so uh my understanding is they've looked around and this is the place that they've landed on. Um, we are curious why the city has not adopted the uh Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission's 300 ft uh buffer zone between an establishment like that wants to sell alcohol and a school or church or daycare. Uh, that has not been addressed and we would like to see uh city council at least consider adopting that recommendation. Uh, we're an active church. We're six days a week, sometimes seven depending on the season. Uh we have lots of children's events, lots of single events, lots of women and senior adult events that happen during the day and in the evening. Uh we feel there will be a conflict of uh the use of our property that we sometimes play in that yard right up to the property line. Um and just not sure about people driving under the influence, people coming out under the influence, all the things that we know from the news and stories that we hear. uh when you mix alcohol and people uh just we're just concerned about those that has that really been

taken into consideration um with the area. Uh noticed on one of the slides uh being compatible with the surrounding areas, church, school, not sure the drinking establishment really is u meets that criteria of being compatible with that situation. We have lots of e evening events like I said um and I know the establishment we've read we've heard that uh the establishment is more of an evening type uh thing so it really wouldn't affect the school or the church but that's not a true statement. There are things that happen at the school and the church in the evening. So I appreciate your time. Thank you for listening. Thank you. All right. Uh next we had uh Ronda Fluke. Okay. In 1975, Tim started our business here at 601 West Ban. In 1995, we built our home, what is now called the Oldtown neighborhood. At that time along Panon Street was our business green and growing, the bank and small businesses, maybe Marshalls and one other bar. We now have the three-legged goat, the whiskey room, the red rooster, the prrow l house, the victory tap, handover, six existing bars, plus with the cigar bar. That would make seven in a sevenb block area. Are there not some other businesses that we could bring to Flugerville? I don't mind bars, but I don't want to live next to one. A few years ago, I believe in 2019, the lounge, which was also kind of a bar on the property at 701 Pan Street next to our property. It did not stay low open long, thankfully. We had some bad experiences with it, which I believe is normal for

bars located close to homes. Music played late into the night, a constant thump of bass penetrating our bedroom wall. Trying to sleep was impossible, even with earplugs, a fan, and using masking noise. Nothing would drown out bumping bass. We had people late in night go to their cars, compare stereos by playing them very loud. Even some days the noise was so loud it was unpleasant to be in our backyard. We even had customers leave our store because it was so unpleasant to shop because of the noise. That is not the only bad experience we had with bars in the neighborhood. Twice we had someone drunk run through our gate and our fence. One of our neighbors had a drunk person who had a local bar receipt on them trying to break into their home. People in the neighborhoods have complained about noise, trash, and drunk people acting badly. So, why would we want any more of this? We recently closed our business to retire, and we have found out how much our business meant to our customers. So many of our customers told us how they thought of our place as a sanctuary where they could just walk around, enjoy the peace while shopping. We are happy that we had someone agree to lease the property and maintain it as a garden center and sanctuary as it always been. We could have sold the land and moved, but we wanted to stay in our neighborhood and in our town. The people who have bought homes in Oldtown or any neighborhood should be able to be in their yard without annoying loud cars or music. Should be able to go to bed and have it quiet enough so they can sleep. should not have to pick up trash from their yards and feel safe. When people moved into Oldtown, I think they wanted a nice, quiet neighborhood. I don't believe they were expecting to be located next to a bar district. And why are we okay with putting so many bars next to homes on our main street of Oldtown? I know owners of the land of 701 Becon Street do not live in

Flugerville, and I doubt they live near a bar. Would you on the zoning committee want to live next to a bar? I would like I would like a more neighborhood filling to our town having a main street fronted with bars. Is that what we mean with the slogan where quality meets life? Thank you. Thank you. All right. Uh next we had Richard Halpen. Hello, chair and commissioners. First of all, I want to thank you for being here. I mean, I bet people call you every day and say, "Thanks so much for working for us for free." And so, I just want to add my voice to the many who who quietly appreciate your uh service to our community. Thank you so much for the time and effort and all the reading you must do to spend time on this commission. I live my partner Becky and I live in Oldtown and u we are neighbors with the folks who spoken here so far. Um, I was so pleased to see that um, compatibility and uh, harmonious were part of the special use permit requirements because a lounge across the street from a school and next door to a church and into a quiet neighborhood with children and seniors is is not going to be harmonious or compatible. So, the first criteria I think can't be met by this bar. Now, I'm not sure that the bar who's going to open here in the lounge are the same owners as the folks down the street um at the whiskey room, but um or the cigar bar, but um as you all probably know, there were a lot of problems down the street with drunken patrons ending up in people's yards, children not being able

to go to bed and go to sleep at night, and other people who need care who are not able to get to sleep, and we just don't want to see that happen again. So, we're counting on you. We're counting on your leadership and your wisdom and your obvious generous and gracious natures to give all your time to our community to see that this is not the best place for this uh establishment to go. Um furthermore, um as the pastor said, this is the gateway to downtown. and they drive by the school district and they drive by the church and they drive by the PACE program and then they hit a bar right where the right where the streets come together into two two lanes instead of four. Can you imagine inebriated people trying to get out of that driveway when they can't quite see the traffic coming over the hill toward them and it's one lane, it's convergent, it's not really going to be safe for folks. Um, so we would urge you to uh recognize that um the young people who go to school across the street have already had more trauma in their lives than than they than they deserve. And a lot of that trauma comes from alcohol as you all know. So it's not a good place to put a alcohol serving establishment across the street from a school for um learning different children. We urge you, we ask you and we uh lean on your leadership and wisdom. Um and we ask you uh not to allow this um use in that address. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you. Right. Uh Becky Halben. Good evening, commissioners. I too thank you. followed by my wish to make a formal complaint that this meeting was not noticed in compliance

with the Flugerville city code for mailed notices to property owners who should be noticed like ourselves. The code requires that before the 10th day before the planning and zoning meeting, a notice of public hearing shall be sent to those property owners by US mail deposited in the municipality and that would be put in a mailbox in Flugerville. This is effectively 11 days before the meeting date. We received our notice on Friday, April the 4th, as all of our neighbors did. Who received them, one of our neighbors who should have been noticed, never received a notice. I cannot imagine that a letter mailed to reveal 11 days before April the 7th, the day of the meeting, which would have been March the 28th, would take 8 days to reach my house. That would be March the 28th, the 29th, the 30th, the 31st, April the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and finally to my house on the 4th, 8 days later. It appears to me that we were not noticed in a timely manner, and I request that this hearing be rescheduled so that appropriate property owners can be properly and legally notified. If this action is not taken, I will of course take it up with the city council. Regarding the merits of the resoning, most cities like us such as Hutto, Taylor, Georgetown, and Austin, all limit the distance a bar or lounge can be to school property 300 ft or greater. This is because they understand alcohol fueled behavior has no place near a school campus. The state of Texas also acknowledges the potential for inappropriate alcohol inspired behaviors and activities near bars and lounges in the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code. This code allows cities to adopt the 300 ft distance that our neighboring cities have all adopted. If this distance had been adopted in our code, this would not be

allowed at this location. Other cities and the state of Texas can all see that lounges within 300 ft of schools is a bad idea. So why are we promoting this since there is a Flugerville ISD campus within 300 ft? The same business seeking the special use permit caused much neighborhood disruption in its previous location on PCON with neighbors complaining of overly loud music and patrons who left empty alcohol containers trash in yards. In addition to patrons urinating in yards, what makes you believe this business will be a good neighbor to a school? I ask that you deny the special use permit for this lo location is it is not fitting. It is not harmonious. Thank you so much. Thank you. All right. Uh, Mary Keep. Good evening. Uh, my name is Mary Heap and I live uh in Oldtown, specifically on Fluger Street, which is right behind this proposed location. Uh, at the February 25th city council meeting, I addressed the council with my concerns that the city of Flugerville had not adopted the TABC code. This was confirmed by city staff and a city council member. Our surrounding cities of Hutau, Roundrock, and Georgetown all abide by the TABC code. I appeal to the city of Flugerville to adopt a local ordinance that will abide by the TABC code relating to alcohol sales. The TABC measurement instructions

would not allow for this proposed cigar lounge requesting to serve alcohol to be located directly across the street from the PFISD campus of Pace High School and next to the First Baptist Church. The proposed lounge at 701 East Pond is located on a lot that adjoins another lot with no barrier from Pan to Fluger Street, which is the residential area of Oldtown. I'm a resident of Oldtown and have great concern on many levels about this type of business at that location. I find it hard to imagine the city of Flugerville allowing this business at the gateway to downtown as well. As a concerned citizen, I appeal to you members of the planning and zoning committee to deny the specific use permit requested by the East PCON cigars 2025. I cannot understand why no measures have been taken by the city government to put into ordinance the TABC guidelines. We would not be here if they had. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Next up, uh, Vernigene Mott. Good evening. I am here, uh, because I am from the district has, um, we did not receive any official information regarding this 701 West Pan Street at this time. Um, so I came to get information and to listen and to see what was going on. Um I know that the safety and well-being of our pace students and staff is a high priority and pace is a um high school with at risk students. So in the staff presentation there were um I I saw the word harmonious and uh that is a very strong word and a very interesting word.

The other thing I did not see was what the hours are of operation will be and if we know that uh I would be interested in that information and um I'll continue to listen this evening. Thank you very much. Thank you. All right. Uh Emily Kano. Hi, my name is Emily Kano. I'm a resident here in Flugville along with my family. I live on Seventh Street and it is within 500 ft of the proposed lounge location. Um I'm also an interior designer at an architecture firm in Austin and I've worked on countless projects in Austin as well as nationally. And some of the goals that I have on the projects I work on is to make sure that it's thoughtfully designed and that it contributes positively to the environment around it. And I don't think that the proposed location is meeting either of these goals for a couple reasons. Um, I think the big one to me is really the fact that uh the past cigar bar lounge had a track track record of uh loud noises late at night. Uh, sometimes explicit lyrics would be heard. Uh, you know, neighbors, patrons would park in the neighborhood. There would be uh trash and potential urination was happening in people's yards. And, you know, I think overall that is obviously problematic. Um the other one um which other people have already spoke about is you know as we all know the girl has yet to adopt any sort of code language based on the TABC TACB um that talks about the 300 ft from a school or a church. I highly recommend this not just for the instance at hand but just for future planning. I'm here for the growth of Flugerville. You know we just bought our house 3 years ago. I love Flugerville. I want to stay here for a long time. I love that we're growing. I love where it's going but I want it to be thoughtful. I wanted to contribute positively. Um, I am here for bars. I like to drink, but do I think it

needs to be in the location that it is proposed? No. Um, and the last point for me is really probably more personal. I have two young children. I have a three-year-old daughter, and uh, you know, when we stand in the front yard, we can see the proposed location from our yard. Uh, her bedroom is on that side of the house. And do I want my three-year-old daughter waking up late at night from loud music or hearing explicit lyrics or having people potentially park in our neighborhood and having issues of, you know, drunk driving? No, I'm not interested in having any of that. Someone also made a point about the fact that there is no barrier. It truly is just a yard. You can see the entire building. And maybe they're going to build a barrier or whatnot. I have no idea, but there's going to be no noise mitigation because there's absolutely no barrier. So, we're going to get all of that into our location. Uh, you know, some of the reasons that we bought where we did was the fact that it was an already established neighborhood, that it was had a lot of established things around it, that it was quiet, that it offered all of these amenities that we couldn't find in other locations. Um, I wanted it to go in a great direction, and I'm, you know, all for pro business, but I just think that this is not the best location for this uh proposed type. Thank you for your time. Thank you. [Applause] All right. I didn't have any other uh folks who had signed up to speak before we close the public hearing. I just wanted one last chance if there was anyone who didn't get their paper turned in. Okay. Seeing as uh there are no further uh folks wishing to speak, I'll entertain a motion to close the public hearing. So moved. I'll second. All in favor? Any opposed? Okay. Public hearing is closed. Um, I have some thoughts. Okay, so the TABC rule is moot because that rule applies to bars and restaurants. It does not apply to a cigar lounge. It applies to a cocktail lounge, but not a cigar

lounge. If you can Google on TABC, which I did while uh we were receiving comment. Thank you all for coming out and expressing your concerns. Um, I also live very near this proposed location. I walk past it all the time with my very rowdy dog and um I don't feel like the school argument or the church argument are really that compelling both because this is going to have la less than half of its sales are going to be alcohol which is why even if Flugerville passed the TABC rule it would change nothing. This wouldn't be subject to that per the definitions in the TABC. Also, the Pace campus is across a fivelane street with no light or crosswalk from that location. And I'm sure the owner can speak to whether or not he allows minors in his establishment. I sincerely doubt he does. Um and the the church number one, it's a big parking lot that backs up to the yard behind this location. Um it's not an area where I've ever seen children with the exception of special events where you guys have like the bouncy houses and stuff. It looks really fun. Um but I've never seen uh anyone in this grassy area. I do see police presence uh during your Sunday services and some of your other events. So I I I I feel like you guys have a really well regulated and controlled environment including police guarding the crosswalks when you have heavy traffic there. Um regarding the noise, I get it, but Flugerville has a noise ordinance and that's what it's for. If the if they are if they are violating the noise ordinance, you call the police, you get

the measurement, you have data. We we went through this before. There w there was a lot of complaint, but there wasn't a lot of data. And so I don't know if the city has data handy. Um but the noise or ordinance exists there. They measure the decibb from the property line. So if that's an issue, that can be dealt with. Likewise, drunk driving and people littering. There are three or four bars in a row right there. And that is a problem that needs that. You know, again, there are laws against drunk driving. I don't think the cigar shop is anywhere near as likely as the whiskey room in the Red Rooster to have people drunk driving. There's also a restaurant that sells alcohol right next to Pace, much closer, Foganiro. I hope nobody here is proposing to shut that place down because it's amazing. Um, so I really I the noise. Yeah, call call the police. Get the decibel reading. Collect the data. That's the way you address that. I love Flugerville, too. And one of the things I love about Flugerville is that it's a really diverse community. And I love where I live because we have people from all races, ethnicities, and religions in my neighborhood living next to each other harmoniously. And one of the things I love about the cigar lounge is that it's drawing in people from the African-American community to the Flugerville area in central Texas. And I love that safe space for the community. And I've been to the lounge a few times and I was welcomed with open arms and it was a wonderful experience. Thank you. I did want to um ask a question, Kristen, because one of the uh residents brought up our notification area and timing. If you uh could maybe speak to uh speak to that,

that'd be great. Uh yes. So, our GIS department generates a list based on the available tax roles um for the year, and then I am tasked with sending out those letters. Um, specifically these letters were mailed March 28th, which is 10 days before the meeting. Got it. Thank you. I have a question for you. Uh, so about the the TBC rules has come up before in the past, you know, few years here. Do you have any insight on how that process is done? do and and Rick, my direct question, do we at the commission, this particular one, uh, handle that vote or requirement or anything? So, currently, just to be clear, we don't have that in our ordinances today. It is up to each municipality to adopt or not adopt that per state regulation. Um, it would depend on how that regulation, should council want to pursue that, it would come through. If it was a zoning regulation, yes, you would see that. Um, however, I would point out today it's not in the in the ordinances today. This case is about a specific use permit for a lounge. And just to be clear, a lounge is less than 50% of alcohol sales. TABC would regulate that just like it would a restaurant for alcohol sales within so many feet if that were to be adopted. So, and just to Thank you. I'm sorry. I stand corrected. It's okay. Just so just to make sure we're all on the same page. If it were to be adopted per TABC, it's 300 ft from a church door to door measured differently for spacing to a school where you're looking more closely at property lines. However, that's just to be noted that because it has come up tonight that that has not been adopted um by the city council at this point. Did you have a question? Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. So, we don't have it. So, it's moot right now. Were we to adopt it? I

can't imagine that it's I can't imagine that it's within 300 feet of pace given how far back that lounge is and the five lane it is. So So when you look when you look at a school property you're looking at property line to property line. Gotcha. Right. Versus a church which would be even even though it shares a property line with a church the doortodoor is more than 300 ft from the church. Okay. So it and it says the crow flies for for that. So you do have you do have that, but again, that's not a regulation in the code today, right? And so we're looking at a specific use permit and the appropriateness of a lounge, which as Kristen stated earlier is for primarily cigar sales, right? Which was there before um and it was the downtown district overlay that changed that regulation to have it come before you through a specific use permit. And so that's really what we're looking at. They can they can also sell um alcohol, they can sell food, but less than 50% of their sales have to come from that. The prime the primary use of a lounge is for the sale of tobacco products. And so there was a lounge there for how long? Do you remember the hookah place? I remember seeing it. We the city does not know less than a year. Less than a year. Yeah. Uh thank you. So, a couple questions too on uh some of the citizens raised issues about sounds and perimeter fencing. Do we at this commission or does the city through its uh development pro uh process get to stipulate regulations on sound ores reduce sound or building perimeter fences or things like that? and any fencing will be looked at through the site development permit process and then and then then the noise ordinance like in on any other property um is reviewed and approved by the city council and then enforced by our police department. Okay. So here in just for my clarification in this setting we don't set those limitations or boundaries.

Right. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. This is specifically for the use permit which would be separate from any other development or building construction work. Right. In which case the latest code would apply. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I guess I'd like to say too that it we heard a lot about the potential owners of the site and how there was some complaints about noise and and maybe where they were previously. I guess what I what I didn't hear was any particular opposition to the previous use as a lounge. Um, and that business didn't seem to be particularly a problem for the community. Um, and that's not true. I called, not the cigar lounge, the one that was at this location. Fair enough. Um, complaints. And so for me, I think it's it's been signed as a lounge. I think the the signage is even still on the building. Um, and so it it doesn't feel as much to me like this is this is a new thing. This is this is changing the use too much of the area just based on the the downtown overlay causing the differences with the um the property boundary distances seems to be the thing that's kind of triggering this. But I don't I don't see this as a big difference between the way it has been used, the way that building has been um you know used for at least the past 5 to 10 years maybe. Um and so I don't believe that's necessarily something that is um you know particularly changing very much at this point. Sure. Yeah, I agree, Nick. Well, I think the uh the condition that Sorry, real quick. Yeah, sorry. The we need to be able to get through the discussion up here. appreciate you all's

um input certainly, but we want to make sure that we cover everything we can. Well, I think the I think the challenge that we face with um a change like this, I mean that you know, I don't know if this I genuinely don't know if the building's been occupied in the eight or nine years that I've lived here, 12 years kind of in the central area. Um, and I do know that, you know, derelict buildings are not nearly as uh helpful to the city, the community, tax roles, etc. than operating businesses. And so I think that um it's nice to see development come to that site. Um that particular one, you know, have I've looked at many many many times thinking about, oh, I wonder I've had visions. What could that be? What could that do? Same. Um is that something that would be a benefit to to the community and and a gathering place and things. And so I think that um based on the staff's recommendation for approval and the fact that it conforms with all of our current guiding uh guidelines and rules, it it makes total sense. Yeah. And I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, Kristen, I think the condition that staff is recommending here as well in terms of restricting use to the interior of the building, I I believe is intended to help solve for potential noise issues as well. Right. I know we've we have had other locations with indooroutdoor spaces where no doubt it could be an issue but I think this is probably a reasonable restriction. Is that the characterize that or that was the spirit of I think the condition is intended to help um meet the compatibility that should help understand. Have you already seen uh site development plans or anything? Have you already kind of preliminaried that or anything? No, staff has not seen any other plans outside of this SE for this property at this time. Okay. And if uh in the will we ever see this again in terms of site planning or

uh is this today's it? Yes. Okay. Can we ask if that will ever change the interior only? Will there be a possibility you have a should the applicant want to expand this use on property they would have to go back through this prop this process again to a make the use bigger if they expand the building or to have more um or to even have outdoor space they would have to go through this process again I think I was going to say if anything related to the TABC regulations was put in place in between those then they would potentially be grandfathered in for that. But then if they wanted to change that in any way, it would kind of remove that kind of grandfathering. Right. That's a much more complicated legal question related to vesting and and timing. Okay. Gotcha. Well, I think the challenge that we have here is, you know, in my my experience serving on the commission, you know, we try to allow business, right? We try to develop or create spaces for business to happen. Yeah, in my experience, we're not really in the um you know, we really rely heavily on staff's recommendations because, you know, they're the experts in the code and how things work and and they've worked with the owner or the applicants and things like that. And so, I think that that really uh takes care of a lot of my concerns. Yeah. And I think one of the things I've been thinking about in the same vein is that we wouldn't be seeing this at all if there wasn't the downtown overlay that had been added since this was the previous use of it. And specifically to the spirit of the downtown overlay, I tend to agree with you. I think we've we've seen other businesses like that uh like this uh within the overlay and I think we probably will continue to see some of that. Um I do I I also agree with you. I think equity and how we apply um both recommendations and and conditions I think is is um crucial uh in the way we handle these cases. Um I did want to say I know the applicant is

here. I don't know if you'd like to to come up and if some if anybody has any questions for them if you're still interested in doing so. The only question that I had was does the applicant accepting the condition and comfortable with the condition to remain in the interior of the building? Yes. Yes. Hello council. So I'm Andre artist Shawn Robinson here. Uh I'd like to address a couple of things that were that were stated here um when we came in before. So, I actually own the current one that's in place right now, which you visit a couple of times, but thank you very much. Um, but but the first thing the first thing I want to address here is that yes, it was a little bit uncomfortable for the residents to have uh the community be a little bit more full because that building was occupied with our lounge, the whiskey room, which doesn't have parking, Red Rooster, which doesn't have parking. So, eventually it's going to the parking is going to flow into the neighborhood. After the police were engaged, uh we hadn't had one call. So, we the the DBs are 80. I purposely make sure we run it at 75 for the respect of the residents in the back. Um, not I don't think anyone who spoke here has even made an attempt to come in and see what we're about. Uh, we basically want to I mean, we're we're open arms. Uh, for those who have visited, they clearly know that that's what we do. That's what we're about. I mean, if you think about smoking cigars, it's almost like playing golf. It's just it's it's an expensive sport. So, so you won't necessarily have um just what may some may assume as being the riff raff, if you will, that's going to be coming through because we don't allow that. But I'm glad that you mentioned that right next everyone. Oh, sorry. I'm glad that you mentioned that right next door cuz I I made a I made a stop purposely today, right? Like literally when you cross the grounds of the school, there's they they serve alcohol at that fa fabulous restaurant which you mentioned. And then if you walk two doors down to the casita, I believe that name that Mexican restaurant, they ser they have a full bar there as well. So they're actually closer on the side of the street where the school is to to consume liquor. Much

easier to get to those two places than yours. Also, you wouldn't notice a minor walking into a restaurant like you would a cigar lounge. Exactly. Right. Cuz you're not you're going there to eat and eating is for I don't think eating is G-rated in Right. So So anyone cigars are like PG-13. Yeah. PG-13 for cigar. would have to be PG or PG-18 I guess PG21 21 PG21 to be for cigars but the but the reason why I think it's important that we actually get the opportunity to speak is that we we understand that there's some challenges right but the growth is is in inevitable so eventually downtown flugerville is going to grow right and unfortunately for some they don't like it but but for the city I think it's amazing especially with the new projects that you we have coming into the city and I think this is just an addition to what's already coming into the city as mentioned before uh I complied 120% to what was happen what happened what was what was issued here uh when we we were here before again running the DBs five under so I can actually take it up to 80 but I purposely make sure that we run it for at the property line at five haven't had one complaint we haven't had one fight we haven't had uh any any uh breakins we haven't had any uh anyone being violated uh that the police had to come out for so the concerns are there but based on 3 years being in this and not having that. I'm not sure exactly where a lot of this is festering from. Now, one can make assumptions, but I but we we'll we'll avoid making the assumptions, but the the purpose of us being here and the purpose of us doing this is because we want to grow, right? We're growing. I saw something that was great. It's a small facility. They're seeing the parking. We get we get 70 parking spots over here. So, think how many you get 70 cars off the street that you're complaining about being in the neighborhood now into a controlled parking lot. So I I So again, it's kind of like let's do let's work together. I'm willing to work with anyone. I'll give my phone number to whoever's willing to talk. I promise I won't call you unless I really need to and I would hope you do the same because I got a lot of texts. But because we were under the rules, but they still wanted me to do

something differently, but I'm like, "Hey, I've I'm doing my part and then some." So there's a young lady in the back who she freely texted me and said, "Hey, can you turn it down a little bit? I know you're not I know you're not where you need to be. I mean, because you can take it up louder, but you can I comply easily." I'm like, "Sure, I'll take it down." It's just that simple. It's it's I I I I don't understand, but you know, I get it. You know, I I just And I I I I've been in Flugville since 98. So, I live right up the street in Swinson Farm. So, I am a resident of Flugerville. Uh so, and Tashan is he I think he lives closer to downtown Point Club Wales Point. And uh Larry live Larry's the other the other owner. He lives in Blackhawk. So, um we're we're a Flugerville who just we're just bringing something unique and different to the city. Uh, I think it's complimentary. It's not It's nothing like it. In fact, this particular one will be probably the only one like it in Austin. So, Travis County, which is even that much better, which means we'll bring even more people to the community. And I know it may it may not sound well to a lot of people because it's going to drive traffic, but that's what we want in growing downtown. Sounds like tax revenue to me. So, I'm I'm we're here to answer any questions that you guys may have for us. Uh, just I mean, we we spent a lot of time on thinking about this. We spent a lot lot of time on the on the facility. We have a lot of work to do. We spent a lot of money on making sure this thing's been been vacant for five five plus years. So, there's a lot of work that has to be done. And we're going to do our part to make sure that we meet all the compliances that are necessary in order in order for us to run this effectively and and make and develop profitable business. That's our objective. What's the occupancy for a 3200 foot structure? Uh that would have to be taken up by our building official can answer that question for him. It's based on the use and the size of the building. I also wanted to say I really appreciated the letter of intent that was provided by y'all. Thought it was very professional and I think it's important that we invest in local businesses and entrepreneurs in Flugerville encouraging more and more

local businesses. So, and we support every business that's down there. I mean, we we eat we purposely eat and and you know, fund the businesses because we understand the challenges of being, you know, an entrepreneur and and making sure that we buy local. So, and and I welcome anyone like even if you don't like us, I mean, please come just give us a shot, you know, come through. We may have a jazz night. If you like jazz, we'll, you know, we'll jazz it up for you a little bit and, you know, come come do your thing. Just to add on, Larry Foot as well, as Andre mentioned, we know this is one of the oldest, probably the oldest building entering Flugerville downtown. You have we have a side that you can see as soon as you drive in. there's thoughts in our mind to what we can do to glorify that to make that even more of an experience as you drive it. So, we're taking everything in consideration regards to, you know, what it's going to look like from an outside cosmetic view u to make us all feel proud. You know, I've lived in Flugerville since 97 myself. Um and so I've been here, my kids went to high school here, graduated and moved on. Um worked in this area since I moved here. So, I care. we all care. Uh just to make sure we all understand where our mind frame is at is creating an experience for those who come, but those for who those who live here as well to be able to have a place to come and enjoy, sit back, watch a game, smoke a cigar, go home, listen to some given music, too. Sure. Not loud. Not loud. Not above not above the DBs. Yeah. Thank you all for coming and and uh and sharing that as well. And um yeah, I will happy to take a couple more comments and questions, but I did want to uh again thank you all for being so open with the community. I know um uh you know, a couple years ago we we had similar uh situation, right? And um and I am um thankful that you all have have found some solutions with the neighborhood and I'm I'm hopeful that that will continue um with your with your new location. We will only enhance

it. That's our that's our goal. So when I when approached these two gentlemen here for the next next location, we I talked about some of the challenges that we've had in getting it started, some of the rules that have been that have been applied and uh they won't go away. Right. So again, I I know someone said they called twice and someone said they call. We haven't had one police officer show up for any noise ordinance or anything since and that's been a probably a couple years now. So not sure. Yeah, I was just going to ask it sound like most of the most of the comments that we received were related to uh the serving of alcohol. Um is there do you guys hold any kind of license or a permit to serve alcohol or how does we have to we have to apply for the licenses. So once this is approved uh we then we have the the green light, right? Yeah. Yeah. We're we're working through all those steps regards to the controllers's office the we put an ad in the paper regards to Austin Chronico. We've done all of our due diligence. Uh we posted a sign. The sign has been out since December. Um on the front window that needs to be out for 60 days. We left it there. You know, we could have been taking that sign down. We left it there. We have nothing to hide. It's something that we want to glorify and bring to this area in a positive way. Um our our final step is working with the city uh regards to getting their approval that we can be able to submit for our TABC license. We have yet to receive that license as we're still going through the process. Do you have a license for the current facility? It's Bob and that's one we want to change that because now we have the opportunity to control the consumption. Right. Right. So we're we're now going into a facility where the consumption is controlled although we haven't had any accidents or anything or any drunk driving or tickets or anything like that from leaving the facility. I we still find it one you can monetize on it right and then two you have the ability to control consumption. Yeah. And and with that kind of license, I assume there's there's some kind of requirements and regulations that if there's if there's any sort of incident, alcohol related, you know, issues on the

site that you would potentially lose the license or or other threats. There there's even part of that process is background checks on not only us but our spouses as well to ensure that you know they have no history uh regards to ages of your kids in the house. So it's a very thorough process to get your TABC license. Jonathan, I'm ready to make a motion. Yep. I'll entertain. Yeah. I just do you What's the age requirement to get into the building? Would it be 21? It's 21. Yes. Cuz you you have tobacco sales. It may be lower. That's right. Tobacco is 21 now. I'm so old. 21. Yes. Back then we could buy Mars for at 18. I forgot. I'm ready to move. I move to approve as with staff recommendations. Seconded. All right. All in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. Motion passes. Thank you all. Thank you. Thank you. I keep forgetting that you have to. All right. Uh, next up we have item 4B on a uh reszone application. Oh, did I do something wrong? There we go. There's no Is there a clicker? Oh, okay. Yeah. Good evening, chair, commission, and community. My name is Dr. Yasmine Turk, and I'm the planning manager for the city of Flugerville. This is the resoning case of 3315 East Pan Street. As shown in this map, this property is located east of Highway 130 near the Levano development and bordering the Encore substation. This is a 5.927 acre site.

The request is for resoning from urban center level 5, which is CL5, to campus industrial, to be in line with the property that's to the east. Campus industrial is intended to include land which is used or intended to be used as an employment center, including but not limited to land uses such as light industrial, research and development centers, multi-story offices, business services, and limited retail services. This zoning is in line with the Aspire Flugerville 2040 comprehensive plan and located in the Lakeside Neighborhood District. Staff recommends approval of reszoning this subject property from urban center level 5 to Campus Industrial. I'm happy to answer any questions and the applicant is here as well. All right. All right. Did we have anyone in the public wishing to speak this evening? This is a public hearing. I did not receive any uh cards. Okay. I'll entertain a motion to close the public hearing. Second. All right. So moved. Second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? N. All right. Motion passes. The uh public hearing is closed. Questions, discussion? Nope. Was there anything? Did the applicant have anything that they wanted to share or not necessarily? No. Okay, there's I make a motion to approve. Second. Second. All right. All in favor? Any opposed? All right. Motion passes. Thank you very much. All right. Item 4 C, uh, which is another reszone application. And Yasmin, you're up again, right? All right. The subject property is shown in this image. The villages of Hidden Lake to the west and a storage facility is on the property next to adjacent reserve at

West Creek is the development shown in the top corner. This is the Weiss Retail Center. It is a 2509 acre site currently used as a fuel station and general retail. GB2 is primarily for heavy uses where GB1 offers a lighter neighborhood uh lighter neighborhood uses. Um it is currently GB2. We would like to have the re the resoning cases to move it to GB1. It is in line with the Aspire Flugerville 240 comprehensive plan. and it's in the Blackland Prairie Neighborhood District. Staff recommends approval of resoning from general business 2 to general business one. Is this uh is this something that the city is pursuing or was there an I'm sorry, this was an we did have an applicant for this. Yes, this this was an applicant. I'm not sure if the applicant is here. Yes, the applicant is here. There are any questions questions discussion? So I guess my question is uh if it's if the site is just the fuel station, what's the difference between going from GB 2 to one? Like what's the what's driving that? GB1 allows for more retail neighborhood use type activities. And I don't know if you'd like to um present anything else about your reasoning for your application. Okay. Okay. Uh, I'll entertain a motion to close the public hearing now. So moved. Second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Okay. Public hearing is closed. Any other discussion on this item? Otherwise, I'll entertain a motion.

Motion to approve. Second. All right. All in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. Motion passes. Thank you very much. One more. All right. We have a replat item 4D for the village at Wells Branch. And Yasmin is up again. All right. So, this is the replat of lot 3B uh at the village at Wells Branch section 2 commercial plat. As you can see in this image there uh is is the lot which contains 3B and 3E. Lot 3B is 1.07 acres and staff recommends approval for the replacing these two this one lot into two lots. All right. Is there anyone in the public wish to speak on this item? I did not receive any speaking cards. All right. I will entertain a motion to close the public hearing. So moved. Second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. Public hearing is now closed. Any other conversation or questions on this item? No. I'll entertain a motion. I'll make a motion to approve. Second. All right. All in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. Motion passes. Thank you very much. All right. Uh last up on the agenda this evening, item 6A, which is uh discussion only, and this is regarding the next uh update to the 5-year capital improvement plan for fiscal years 2026 through 2030. All right. Good evening. [Music] There was another presentation in the PNC agenda.

uh while they're working on the uh on the tech, I did want to make sure that the commissioners understood. So, there's obviously a lot of uh content and thought that goes into this plan every year. This is the uh next update um for next year. Um and I'm not sure if everyone had a chance to read through all hundreds of pages of the plan. So, by all means, um, you know, ask questions, take notes this evening, but feel free to, uh, reach out to staff and specifically Emily will, um, take inputs and questions and, um, take care of those things. Uh, the current plan is for this to come back to us for our approval next month. So, I can email comments to city staff between now and then. Later, so that they can I will be a passenger to and from Brownsville this week. And so I know what I'll be reading in the car. Yeah. If if we send questions or comments, is it allowable to I guess I mean I guess really we have y'all's contact. It would just be nice to see what other people's comments and questions could be, but I'm guessing that the preference is that we actually email city staff directly instead of including additional commissioners on on communication. Correct. For due to open meetings requirements, you can communicate with city staff. You send those to me. We'll coordinate with Abby and the CIP team and then we can provide a summary um at the May meeting of the comments and questions that we received. Okay, great. That'd be helpful. All right. All right. Uh good evening. Abby Morrison, public works services director and tonight we are here to talk about the 5-year CIP for fiscal year fiscal years 26 through 30. Uh this presentation will cover the definition and purpose of the CIP and how it aligns with the city's Aspire 2040 comp plan and the foundational basis used in developing the projects. We'll also walk through the major program areas in the projected schedule for implementation on these projects.

The CIP is a strategic planning tool used to guide the city's investments in infrastructure such as transportation, utilities, parks, and public facilities. It is designed to prioritize projects that support growth, maintain existing assets, and enhance quality of life with community values and long range planning goals. It's important to note that while all the projects included in the CIP are identified as potential needs, this does not guarantee they will move forward. Project advancement depends on several factors including available funding, community demand, project readiness, and coordination with external partners. While we aim to maintain a steady and balanced capital program, circumstances often change, costs can increase. As projects move through design, timelines may shift as we approach construction, and funding mechanisms play a key role in project delivery. Additionally, the CIP may look a little bit different this year. Several major several major master planning efforts are currently underway, including those for transportation, water, wastewater, parks, and facilities. These plans will help shape the future priorities and may result in updates in current and future projects. To support the imple implementation of some of the projects shown in the fiscal year 2026 CIP, staff anticipates bringing forward a 2026 bond program for uh consideration. This would serve as a critical funding tool to help advance key infrastructure investments. We are not requesting any formal action today. This presentation is intended for feedback and discussion. Uh staff will return at the next meeting with a formal request for approval. So with that, let's dive into the details of fiscical year 26 CIP and what lies ahead. And I'll introduce Cindy Bro, our capital improvement program manager.

Good evening everyone. Um I just want to go over a few things about the CIP plan. There is a lot of work that goes into preparing this for you. That 162page document that you have you have before you. It's a light reading. Um but this plan fits along with an align with Aspire 20 240 and with that those projects that are included in there are diverse and equitable and we are making them fiscally responsible uh environmentally sustainable, community oriented and safe and healthy. Uh and economic opportunities are for everyone. It's like citywide so no one's left out. the five-year uh CIP alignment with Aspire. Uh we're focusing a little bit on the trans transportation, mobility, infrastructure, and community facilities, and public services through FY26 CIP projects that we're going to be starting. That includes the transportation trails and sidewalks, water wastewater and reclaimed water projects and city building facilities and parks. The capital improvement implementation is um meeting a high quality, safe and efficient public infrastructure. We identify and plan the citywide uh capital needs over a 5-year period. This is 26 through30. uh we ensure the design of those projects meets inter in intended uses, operation and maintenance costs are included and everything's complying with the regulatory requirements. Uh we manage the construction for the projects on budget on schedule for an on-time delivery.

When choosing the projects, uh this is coming from several places. The comprehensive plan, uh the master plans that we talked about were adopted every 3 to 5 years and we try to fit those projects in with what's recommended through those plans. Infrastructure condition reports, uh facilities reports, all all sorts of things like that. Uh citizens requests for services within the city. We try to take into consideration all those items and also the growth and development of the city. Each project has a one-page uh document there for you to look at that has the project scope, its justification on it, the cost as of right now, what we think it's going to be in this today's dollars. Um the funding is included with it and uh the schedule of when we think these things are estimated to come into play. So land and use is usually first when we're buying and setting up those um those pieces that we need and places to uh have the costs and everything pulled together for them. The funding sources, there's a page in your book near the front of the in the narrative that tells you all the different kinds of funding sources that we have available. These are just a few that are certificates of obligations, general obligation bonds, federal grants, uh, WIFFIA through the EPA, uh, the TUR tax re increment reinvestment zone, impact fees, the Campo Capital Area Metro Planning Organization, utility funds, and the Texas Water Development Board fund a lot of these items for us. you'll see the future funding in there that that's going to be determined as we go or a bond will be

set up for that. I'm going to turn this over now to uh Evan Relle, operations director, so we can talk about this transportation that we have for next year. Sorry. Hello again. Evan, operations director for public works, overseeing traffic, transportation and other things. Um, so yeah, tra trans transportation, CIP, roadways, traffic signals, intersections as we discussed earlier. Um, we have about 45 transportation projects. So, it's a big lift. Um, but everything's moving according to as it should be. Um, this is just kind of a list showing you all the projects and the cost over the next five years. This is continuing that and we're going to focus the highlighted projects are ones we're going to focus on a little bit go a little bit deeper um program funding sources. It just kind of shows you where the funding for the projects coming from. Um so the projects we're going to discuss and I flip through the slides faster than I did my notes but yeah intersection control um on Olympic Drive in that surrounding area. So, we're looking at um we want to do a traffic signal warrant analysis. Just kind of look at that whole area, see where we can make improvements. This goes back to the safety pillar. Um looking at what we can do um traffic signal wise. Um you have to do all the analysis to make sure it makes sense. So, that's what we're going to going to do. Um the FM 685 at Ste's crossing and that that project is 685 northbound um at Steeds Crossing have an acceleration and a decel or deceleration then acceleration lane for the neighborhood and we we meet with the neighbor the HOAs um as often as we can. I know with this particular neighborhood we meet with them once a year um it seems and so this is something that we've been discussing with them. We

understand it's a need. It's a partnership project, so we'll have to coordinate the tech stock. County Road 138 at Derby Day. So, we discussed this one earlier. This is the Wilco Highway um project and installing the traffic light on Derby Day. Current statuses, they're at 90% complete design um for the project. Um staff's reviewing that. We're working on the interlocal agreement with them so we can move this forward. There's some utility coordination that needs to take place for city utility, but that is in play and something we're we're consistently discussing with them. FM6 685 counter 138 intersection improvements. Again, this is a another project um joint project that is in the early stages yet still moving. And then the downtown mobility improvements. So, this is a big one to talk about. We talked about the 685 um project earlier at 6:00 and the how important it is to make sure that we do this responsibly responsibly. We don't want to congest the area without having giving our residents and other passer um pass people that pass through our city the option to have um different mobility. So when we look at this on the far right you'll see you'll have downtown east. Um in that area we're looking at doing what's called an intersection control evaluation um as a part of the 685 project. So we're looking at putting in a roundabout potentially up just north of the downtown um area. So we have continuous flow. So the thing we need to focus about when we want to make sure that we're providing efficient mobility is is efficient flow or continuous flow intersection. That means that you have less congestion. It's also a safety safety thing. So it makes people slow down but it keeps traffic moving. And some other areas we're looking at the roadway that's going to be going through downtown east that's called main and we'll come out on railroad. We want to look at that um

intersection control evaluation for roundabout there as well as pan um and railroad. So looking at these different options because as we know when we when we bring 685 on and we have downtown east complete we we can imagine that there's going to be a lot of traffic. So we got to think through that an efficiently designed smartly designed engineer can build. This map just shows the project points project um just kind of giving you a different illustrative view all the projects as it relates to the in context with the city. Um key drainage projects. So key drainage projects include emphasis on reducing the flood plane impact and created tension and channel improvements. So project drainage improvements in roadways goes hand in hand and you get best bang for your buck when you do drainage projects with roads obviously. So that's something we look at. We have 12 drainage projects and they're not currently funded but they're pending possible grant and future utility drainage fee or general obligation bond. I'll kind of get into that a little bit more. Could I ask a couple quick questions on the drainage? I uh noticed that I didn't see a whole lot on the list and I could have just missed it. uh is a lot of content to try to digest but uh I didn't see a whole lot of uh bringing residential out of flood planes. Are we to the point now where we are feel pretty good across the city in terms of the number of our residents that uh that are in areas that would be impacted? I mean obviously these flood maps um don't work in our advantage. Uh right they're getting worse. Um so some of the projects that we they were proposing doing the priority is to bring them out of the flood plan. Okay. So when we talk about we're going to talk about the Emanuel Road, PCON Park, Upper Yoland and Creek Channel improvements if I remember right. Um a lot of residential that there a lot of residential would be affected. So that's

one of the key projects that we're going to be talking about that would bring them out. Okay. Yeah, it'd be great. Maybe that's something in the next version of this you all can call out specifically which ones are um obviously it all benefits um the whole city but I think it's really important that we recognize how many folks are in these um flood planes that need need that support. Thanks. So focusing on a couple of these um so we're going to get use grant money as much as we can. So, if a lot of these such as the uh I did write them down and I have to read my handwriting, Caldwell, Weiss Lane, Railroad Avenue, Hidden Lake Drive. All those we've already applied for a per grant or preliminary engineering engineering report grant um that we should be hearing back soon about and once we hear back from that early 2026, we'll be able to um submit a full application for grant for those. And then the Emanuel road pan project or pan park kid k upper gilden project and that's the one that I was discussing of the affecting the residents. Um we've applied for a grant or we're going to apply for a grant um through Texas water development board um the flood infrastructure fund and the second quarter this year we should hear back about that but that assumes that 80% of the design and construction will be be paid for by the grant. So, we're aware of the priorities of the projects and that's why we're going to try to get um funding sooner rather than later for these priority projects. And this just kind of illustrates the those specific projects and the downtown district storm drain improvement. Again, just kind of the the maps as it relates to the context of the city. Uh sorry, quick question specific project. Uh so for the for the uh oh it's actually not on here. I made it up

that it was on the slide. Uh for the downtown uh detention pond which I know is a is an important piece as we continue to develop and build out downtown east as well as the rest of our core. Uh is that project does that need to actually coincide with the opening of downtown east or are those those are executed on separately? It's separate. Okay. Downtown East has own drainage study. um to accommodate for that um additional impervious cover there. Okay. Thank you. Um facility CIP. So we evaluate plan for future including resiliency measures. Um we're doing a citywide facility master plan currently and that can consist of three different tasks. one is meeting with department directors and getting feedback kind of canvasing the city understanding what the needs actually are. Um phase two of that sorry checking my notes um will be the actual space programming based from the information they received our consultant received and then the third will be conceptual design and and applying cost to that. So if we need to see where we need to build new facilities in the future um as it relates to growth of the city and growth of employees, we'll we'll have a game plan and know how to do it. Are there any projects uh left from our afteraction plans from uh winter storms the last few years? I know there is a decent amount of work over the last couple of years um regarding generators, hardening of city facilities. That's what reminded me of it. But is there anything in particular to call out that we have left that you're aware of? Not specifically. The la the last thing one of the things we wanted to do when we when we converted this building, it's generator from being diesel to being natural gas because we want to have continual use. We accomplished that this year. And we also are able to reuse the

generator that we removed from this facility and put it on a trailer as a um mobile generator. So, one thing we're doing now, and we have we have costs and everything lined up to do it. We just need to I I know it's in the process of getting all the financial stuff done, but to install basically plugs at facilities that don't have a generator so we can mobilize that mobile now mobile gener generator so we can power a facility if we need to. That was one of the things we wanted to make sure we did and it took it took a little bit but we got it done. Um, other things we wanted to do was we learned the cost to have brush ground up and hauled away. Yeah. And the prices obviously jumped after that event. And so we moved from um from that the grinding and hauling which was an expensive operation to our wheat now can incinerate brush. Yeah. And so it's a a one-time capital cost and it's not an ongoing operational cost. So, and I believe we pretty much covered all the things that we wanted to do as a as a result of the after action report. Okay, great. Thank you. Does that mean that potentially the limb pickup service would come back because didn't that go away at some point? That's a bigger discussion that we had. I can't say yes or no because, you know, uh this just kind of lists out some of the facility CIPs. So, city hall public works complex that Brandon discussed earlier. Um, ADA transition plan facility projects that is um to explain that a little bit more. Making sure that all city facilities are ADA ADA compliant. I'm not saying that we aren't, but we have funding and we we have an obligation to do that obviously and that's something we're doing. I would imagine that may get tred up a little bit more pending the facilities

master plan. I want just thinking about we've got a lot of new facilities which would hopefully be compliant from the start or would be required to versus how many of our existing facilities we really need to retrofit in the next couple years and kind of also to explain so we ADA transition plan and facilities condition assessment kind of go hand in hand because we just completed a facility condition assessment as part of the facility master planning because you have to have know you have to know what you have in order to know what you Um, but the facility condition assessment, what we did, what that is is you go in, evaluate each facility, program the repairs in into your maintenance operation, and then if there are capital costs, you're able to have that information so you can budget every year. So, facility condition assessment also identifies where there's ADA issues or improvements that can be made. So you can use a facility cond condition assessment outcome to play into your ADA transition plan operation. Got it. Going in hand. So those two pieces are tied together and then they'll get updated again when the overall plan comes. They function together but projectwise they're not tied technically. Yeah. Sure. But they one informs the other. Um justice center expansion uh east police substation. So this goes back to making sure we have east west mobility in our in our city. So if we have issues with we if we have if it takes more time to get east west for emergency services, we need to make sure that we have emergency services placed where they can help and you know get to calls quicker. Yeah, I I won't put you on the spot, but I think that price came down from what y'all may have shared last year. Um Oh, did I hear a whisper that it does not include the actual facility? They better resign you. That would be that

would that would lower the cost. Okay. Um this is just again pie chart showing you the source of fun. Sorry, I think there's two questions. Sorry, quick question. Um if a one pager for one of these items has a different amount for capital cost than funding source, does that mean that there's a need for an additional funding source to pay for the estimated total capital cost? Did you tell me which one you're looking at? I'm looking at the um downtown east city hall and multi-generational recreation center. What page? Oh, sorry. It's page Oh. Oh, one of seven doesn't help. Um it's cuz they have it by subsections. It's in the facilities section. Is that a thing? I don't know if there's other ones. I was just curious cuz I pinpointed like a handful of projects that I'm like personally interested in and I just saw that. We'll have to okay get back and look and come back to you and if not too I can follow up with city staff. That's fine. I imagine that they were shown in prior year funding for downtown east since we've been working on that for a couple years. Okay. Thank you. Pie chart showing you the funding sources. Um facility project east police substation as we mentioned. So constructing the east police station the training facilities um new facility house training patrol police command and detectives. So again going to geographically serving the east side of the city. F2 FY26 budget shows land acquisition cost but not currently funded. Possible gener general obligation bond

project. Again this is a pro a map showing it showing these locations within context of the city. And all of a sudden, I'm I'm finished. But I I can answer I can answer any questions you might have. I got one thing to add. Sure. You said my favorite one of my favorite words earlier in the uh roadways. You said roundabout. Big fan. Love those. Uh it's well documented here on this committee that I have been a big supporter asking for a train. Yeah. Uh not yet. Later. I will tell you about 3 weeks ago I got to experience my first double roundabout. It was a roundabout to another roundabout. It was amazing. I'll show you where it was. I think it would really help at the intersection of 130 and uh whatever the crossing is that goes right in front of Stone Hill. Okay. You know, that has the big like off that goes down south and then it's just a total nightmare. Double roundabout. I bet. You know, I agree. Every time I experience a cool new roundabout feature, I want to tell everybody about it. You do. You do bring it up. Thank you. Roundabouts and trains. I'll hand it over to Brandon. So, even again, commissioners. Uh, so, uh, Brandon, appreciate, utility director for the city. Um, I am not here to talk about roundabouts. Um, if we did roundabout pipes, that gets a little weird. You know, pipe just goes in a circle. Um, so Yeah. Well, I'm happy to happy to work on roundabouts for water wastewater. Um but uh excuse me. Um so our water water CIP, like I like mentioned earlier, um a lot of our expansions are currently underway. Uh so our goal is obviously to get we want to get the pipes in the ground before everybody else gets in the ground because it gets a lot more expensive when you have to build when there's a lot of development around. Um it's a whole lot easier to build it

before everybody's there. So with those expansions again, you have increased drinking water treatment capacity. you have increased raw water supply as well as transmission and transmission and conveyance across the entire city. Um we have a total of 13 water projects. Uh they're all listed in this table here. Um so the majority of these in this table are all either under contract for design or about to go to construction with the exception of a couple of tank rehabs that are one of them is about to kick off. But the big one that we wanted to make sure to highlight um for this presentation is the 5 MGD uh SH45 pump station. Um so this is a very large gap. I say very large, very large. Normally very large with our hundred millions of dollars of water waste water, it's not as large, but we'll talk about that in a second. Um, so water program funding sources, we we fund it through Texas Water Development Board, through WIFFIA funding. Uh, we we've gotten very innovative in how we fund our water and wastewater program. Um, so which comes with it a a lot of interest savings uh across uh across the utility. While it may not be, you know, readily apparent when you pay the water wastewater bill, uh there's a it could be a whole lot worse if we weren't using TWWDB and EPA WIFFIA uh WIFIA uh funding. Um so the big FY26 water project that we have, uh this is a new uh 5 million gallon per day pump station and a 1.25 million gallon uh ground storage tank. Uh so this is a long SH45. Uh we bought the property last last fiscal year. I think it was last fiscal year, the later part of the year. Um so we bought that property along SH45 with the intent that we know we have to build this pump station and we have to build it before all of those highintensity developments start developing along SH45. Um so this will be able to serve those developments as well as be able to provide a redundant feed for uh the Finnick pump station that is down near Black Locust. So, uh, looking forward at what we're currently looking at for CIP projects,

both in construction, you can see the yellow line that goes way off. Um, but we also have a significant amount of, like I mentioned earlier, water rehab projects. We have a lot of conveyance projects that go along along the the the corridors as well as the uh conveyance along the SH45 corridor as well. And what you'll notice is a lot of these there's nothing around them, right? That's the goal. We don't we don't want to build these in the backyards of people's houses um for 42inch water lines. So um so for the FY26 wastewater CIP um again as we mentioned about the Willburgger wastewater treatment facility earlier uh our intent is to be able to increase our treatment capacity and conveyance to serve both growth and development. So we we want to be able to serve development through gravity wastewater as much as humanly possible. Um you'll see that in the reflection of the the breadth of our wastewater uh CIP. Um and so we also want to make make sure that we maintain existing city infrastructure. So as I mentioned earlier, we have 40 plus year old water wastewater pipes in the ground. We want to make sure that we're maintaining those appropriately because they have literally been in the ground for 40 years and never been touched or very minimal minimal rehab work that we've done in the house. Um so there's an overall 21 wastewater projects. Um, so the big ones that we'll we'll mention on the next slide is the 24-in Colorado sand interceptor and the 12-in club wastist water interceptor. So, um, one of these is to decommission a a lift state, a current lift station, and the other one is to serve the new new any new development within the Lakeside Meadows development north of where their extents are. Um, oh, and I must also mention that there will be an edit uh to y'alls that we So, there's one in here. Um, it's the, this is, sorry for all the weird names, Upper New Sweden interceptor. Um, this is on the far east side of the city. Um, so we currently have a development agreement with a municipal utility district on the east side of town. Um, and they have they are constructing a portion of that interceptor. Um, but we will also we

know that in the future we have to convey that their their line will end at a private lift station. We want to convey uh gravity all the way south to the future New Sweden pump uh lift station or New Sweden wastewater treatment facility far into the future. Um so but in order to do that we want to get ahead of preliminary engineering. We want to find our alignment before everybody builds all their stuff while it's still farmland. It's a whole lot easier to get an alignment and easement started than it is when I mentioned when everybody starts building out there. Um, so we will have a correction on that to add preliminary engineering design uh to be able to find that alignment and make sure we get out of the gate early before everybody starts building uh wastewater program funding sources. As we mentioned on the water slide, significant amount of like funding with both the WIFIA funding with our master services agreement as well as with the Texas Water Development Board for the Wilberger Project. Uh so we'll we we sing the praises of TWWDB and WIFIA everywhere we go. So, um, but if y'all want to talk about it, we'll it's a it's a long conversation and I can keep y'all here all night. Um, and bore you to death. Um, what's that? Finance. I just said public finance. Public finance. It's the greatest ever. Uh, it's so great. It keeps everybody awake at night and keeps us enthralled. Um, it is interesting when you're in this, you know, in this field, but it can be very dry. Um so again as mentioned our FY26 wastewater projects we have the Colorado Sand Interceptor which is that purple line on the left side. Um the Lakeside Meadows development is constructing a large portion of that and we have an oversize agreement with them to oversize a portion but we'll also want to extend that up further and be able to start working on extending that up and north and to the west towards Flickerville Parkway closer to where that HB the new HB is. Um and the Club Wastewater interceptor. So, the Club Wastewater lift station is on South Heather Wild Boulevard next to a brand new apartment

complex uh right on the edge of our wastewater CCN. Um, this is a lift station that would we prefer not to have because it's right on the edge of the of the CCN, but we the this project is to be able to gravity feed that out and decommission that lift station. So, for a a graphical overview, um, so or a map overview, I guess. Um, so our wastewater CCN, if y'all weren't all aware already, it is massive and it goes very far to the east, all the way up to 973 and New Sweden Church Road. Um, so we the kind of the downside of having a CCN in the short term is you have the requirement to serve. Uh, so you can see our large infrastructure projects that go all the way east. Uh, so you'll see though that our NRC or in the next 5 years, we want to make sure that we get ahead of it as best we can. So what we're dealing with with what you see with WW2201, which is the Kelly Lane interceptor, that is a project that is fraught with problems with the fact that we have to cut through a golf course, we have to go through a neighborhood. It's very, very challenging. So what you'll see us really starting to harp on and really invest in is to be able to get to the projects like the WW2501 to get out ahead of it. So that way we're not tunneling in people's backyards to be able to get wastewater service to them outside of a lift station. And reclaimed water cip. So the reclaimed water cip um we touched on it earlier u with the single project that we have. Uh there is currently two projects. One currently under design and one of them that would go that's going to go out for contract next year. Um, so the intent with these projects is to be able to start serving along the commercial and eastern edge of our of our eastern water CCN. So we're we're serving our water customers uh with reclaimed water or the ability to um so whether that's everything along the Cameron Lane that's going to that's transferred over to our water CCN or whether that's of the future line will go up Weiss Lane. So if you think of high school, you think of all of the

commercial entities that are coming in along there, whether it's multif family or not, uh we want them to be able to irrigate with all purple pipe. Um so this is what the general that second project that that blue blue line is to be able to extend that line further north all the way up up line. And uh an interesting thing about reclaimed water and purple pipe is um the Bureau of Reclamation likes to give away free money um and California keeps getting it. Um, and we we we are going to keep sending in those applications for free money through the Bureau of Rec because they are really heavily invested in reclaimed water strategies, whether it's purple pipe, whether it's uh direct potable reuse or indirect potable reuse. So right now we're funding the projects through fund utility fund reserves, but the intent is to continue to really push for those bureaucracy. So again, as mentioned, the reclaimed water line that goes along Weiss Lane that extends in that light blue line that you kind of can probably see on the east side of Lake Flugerville. Um that line will extend all the way along Weiss Lane from Pleasanton um all the way north uh until it gets to Sarrento and then serve the it's kind of a I wouldn't say vacant but it's kind of flood plane over there just where our uh where our Weline lift station is. And with that it goes over to parks but I'm happy to answer any water wastewater questions that y'all may have for the 5year cip. I just want to briefly thank you for all of the the hard work. I think one of the most important things that um not just your department but the other uh folks across uh city staff is looking at these alternative funding sources. Um it's a huge savings for our residents and uh uh and I think the other piece you know as you look at these projects both on water and wastewater especially looking at where Flugerville is going to be right we have almost an entire second Flugerville in terms of population

coming our way over the coming years right and I think that um it's really important that we don't get behind or further behind on a lot of these projects um with an eye toward uh to the point that you made earlier, not value engineering our way into a bunch of maintenance costs later on um and digging even more tunnels. And so I appreciate uh you know what I would say is more of uh fiscal sustainability, right? We're putting the right amount of money into some of these projects um as opposed to overengineering and going crazy and getting everything we wanted, which of course we're not getting. Um but also not undercutting ourselves and um you know deferring those those bills for later on when it's certainly not going to be any less expensive than it is now. So really appreciate the work that y'all are doing to think uh critically about these projects. Appreciate it. Second, third, but if no water wastewater questions, I'm going to turn it over to the I mean, we can nitpick the purple pipe pathing if you want real quick. I can talk water wastewater all night and no one would be more happy to I'm having a specific residential issue at one particular address. I'd like to talk to you about that. I'll be here. I will be here to talk about it. Uh, can I ask about uh buying out my for-profit water company's uh water rights in the same as well? Should I too too soon to bring that up again? So, like if I were to send him potential foundation, I mean, granted a foundation is a drop in the bucket. Haha. See what I did there? That wouldn't be subject to open records, would it? Just if I sent foundation recommendations for funding opportunities to city staff, that's fine, right? You can Yes. Okay. You can send that to me. Okay. I'll send it to you and then you can share. Okay. I mean, foundations are not usually the size, but I can think of a couple. Okay. I wasn't I was only a little bit joking about the public finance piece. We're

not picky at all. I will take $5. I'm not No, don't say that. It is not worth the administrative lift. Real human cost to that. Yeah. Gosh, I have slapped people with some smoking conversation. I will turn it on over to to Jeff and the parks team cuz again, parks is more fun than water waste water. More fun and a lot shorter, too. So, uh, okay. So, we'll talk about some parks. Again, I'm Jeff Achay, assistant parks and recreation director. We've got 17 park projects here. Um, so we'll get right into that. The highlighted are the three we're going to talk about today because those kick off in FY26. Um, I do want to highlight though, uh, and like a lot of these, um, five-year CIPs, you'll see kind of a drop off towards the the end of the five-year plan. Um, for us, a big part of that is a lot of plans are being concluded right now or about to start. And so, a lot of our um, future funding, future projects will come from those plans. So, we've got, uh, our trail quarter study that we'll talk about here shortly. um our parks and recreation open space master plan update in two years. Uh so we'll have a lot of projects. The master mobility plan may drive some trail gaps and things like that that we're going to be looking at for trail connectivity. So we'll have a lot of projects towards the end of that that don't exist quite yet. Did want to make sure I highlight that. um looking at funding sources and it's not on here but since we are kind of talking about alternative funding um for the park side, Texas Parks and Wildlife has local park grants that are available that we've discussed for future projects uh applying for that funding comes from the feds. It comes from land and water conservation fund but it also comes from revenues from the sporting good sales tax here in Texas. Um, and it's not a huge uh amount of money that's available, but there is money available for um some of these smaller projects to be able to get funding from the state and from the

feds. So, the three projects we'll talk about today um are Lake Flugerville Park uh phase 2b uh which is a boardwalk and nature center. Um so, this is at the northwest corner of Lake Flugerville Park. um kind of taking uh into account some of the as much natural uh area as you can in a man-made lake in Texas. Um but a boardwalk that uh crosses the the water there. Um and then this is a Bey House property. So a future part of this project is that there'll be a nature center there, but this phase 2B includes community gardens and some of the other nature infrastructure on that side of the uh of the park. Uh it also more on Lake Flugerville includes the Lake Flugerville Silent Harbor trail head. So this is on the western side along Silent Harbor Loop. And in addition to just being an additional entrance into the trail um from this portion, it also will provide additional restrooms. Uh I mean additional uh parking um for to get people away from north and south side of that uh that those parking lots, especially with the expansion of Lake Flurville Parkway. um we'll lose a little bit of parking there. So, this will become incredibly important. Um and then our third project is a trail corridor study um which will be really impactful for us. This is essentially looking at our uh trail connection from um Bull's Park around to around Windir going up Gillan Creek. Um we're we're pretty unique in the amount of trails that we've got per capita here in Flugerville. Um, as evidenced, we're going to the capital tomorrow to talk on the trail capital of Texas designation down at the legislature. Um, and so the trail quarter study will highlight kind of the uniqueness of that on one of the mo more uh popular portions of this um trail system here in Flugerville and and also one that's growing with downtown

east um and everything that's coming in around there. So that trail corridor study will will look at uh programmatically what that um area of the trail looks like. Um we'll kind of take into account improvements to the the connectivity that need to happen, but also again um parks, playgrounds, u things along the way to improve uh that part of the trail that again is incredibly popular for our our community. And here you see uh lined out a lot of those projects um in our five-year plan. And Abby said she would buy my lunch this week sometime if I read this slide, I believe. Can we pause real quick to talk about parks for a second? Go ahead. I would imagine I'm probably not the only one with comments and questions. Sorry. Um, you know, one of the things that I've been been thinking about lately that I think would be fantastic to start to consider within the trails plan, especially if you're looking at the corridor study, is thinking about our trails um as part of our overall mobility network in town. Um, I was at a strategy session uh sorted by some of y'all's consultants a couple weeks ago and it came up and and I really heard a lot of excitement from folks thinking about the services that are available across our trails and thinking about it in terms of how am I actually getting to places where I'm not able to today. And so I think that speaks to part of the plan that you were just bringing up which is there's still gaps as well. But I think putting that lens on our amazing trail system beyond just I enjoy my morning walks, but also I'm much easier to get around my part of town um and get to services that I may need to uh without a vehicle, I think would be a really great way to to consider um some of our future uh investment there. Yeah. And that's been a huge part of the master mobility plan process as it incorporates the trails master plan this time. So it is looking at things holistically. Um, and a huge part of

that conversation has been, yes, our trails are used for that morning walk, for exercise. Um, how often are they used for actually connecting to retail, uh, schools, you know, other things. Um, and yeah, some of this future funding for us will be not only trail gaps, um, but making sure that those connections to vital parts of the city are there for people. Yeah. And that that plan chair will come before the planning and zoning commission for a recommendation to council in the next couple of months. Great. Awesome. Look forward to it. Um there was Oh, man. Am I going to lose it? Uh there was one other thing I wanted to bring up. While you're thinking of that, that leads me into my most favorite topic, trains. I said it. So, thank you. um you know you guys do an incredible job and I think one of the um one of the things that's really stood out especially in your your plans and your projects and things I was mentioning this earlier is that you know the central park specifically in min and falcon point y'all just recently reited that and I mean it's a stunning improvement I mean absolutely like it's a bigger structure it's a better facility um I think you know living in the neighborhood and going to that with my kids the thing that stands out is the the nature escape, right? So, like I think y'all put took a a concrete and made a a concrete slide in a hill and so kids can run up and down the hill instead of maybe going up a stair or you know a ramp or whatever and then they slide down that. Um and then there's a whole bunch of I I I'm going to guess they're prefabs or manufactured boulders, you know, that kind of make a boulder bridge. um every time I go by that particular park, which is regularly daily, those two elements are the most popular thing right next to a brand new gigantic play structure, right? And so I

think that um that really just tells you all you need to know about what kids are interested in and where they can find creativity in their imagining and and uh you know, making connections with stuff. So, I think that's that's really great. So, keep up that stuff. Add more more rocks. You know, rocks aren't hard to come by around here. So, just get big ones that can't people can't move. And then on the mobility thing, you know, I do think that Flugerville, the way it's the way that our community is laid out, it really does lend itself to one uh taking bold steps in our approach. uh especially as we're growing like we've you know it's been pretty amazing to be involved the last four years to see some of the major bold steps and and design plans and improvements and kind of uh big vision sharing and and specifically the rec center is is an absolute uh icon of that experience. Uh, but I think that if y'all are going for Trail Capital of Texas, which you should, um, that that would be an identity marker, a place marker, and and you know, if you include into something like that a people moving option, you know, not necessarily a train with rail, but you know, uh, maybe a propane gas powered wheeled vehicle or something. um that is a draw that brings people to the parks or to the trails to have an experience on their whales where I think anything you can do along those lines including um you know your bike stations those are great uh lots of positive feedback on that water stations benches with seating and you know nature lookouts and things like that. Uh those are all things that that you know my family would utilize just because you know gives me an excuse to take my kids and then they're entertained while I'm also looking at the birds. Absolutely. Yeah. So thank you. Keep it up. And I did think of the other point. Uh so I'll bring that up now too. Very tactical but

I remember bringing this up last year as well. Um, I love that we are building in our continued trail connectivity just as a standard line item. However, I still really believe that that needs to escalate in cost over time. Um, because those dollars are going to go uh less and less far as time goes on. And I think if we are the trail of capital, which we are, and we're going to continue to keep that designation, then we need to reflect that investment in a smart way um in our forward- facing plans. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, and we will, like I said, with the implementation of the master mobility plan, the trails portion of that, we'll have specific projects, I think, that end up getting called out because of the size and uh scale of particular projects we have to do um that they'll probably be called out in the CIP as well. Gotcha. Thanks. Yeah. All right, that wasn't too bad. Um so the schedule of CIP adoption. So obviously tonight the draft CIP has been presented to P&Z. Um and then requesting formal approval um in your May meeting on May 5th. Um CIP presentation to city council will be on May 13th. Um and then formal adoption via the FY26 budget adoption by city council um scheduled for September 23rd. and we would ask for your attendance at that May 13th meeting as part of your um joint meeting with city council and your um charter requirement to present the CIP recommendation to them at that time. Great. I'll take a stake any general questions. Is this where I can ask them? Yeah. Um so I was wondering is there any location where um we can see like funding progress complete by funding source like for example you know there's

a certain bond that was passed in 2020 or 2021. I know that there's like a like a pie chart by uh category and also overall a funding source. But for example, if there's certain projects that are taking a little bit, you know, longer to complete, we can kind of see where are we at with completing out a specific funding source, like a bond that's a little bit older, and and it can tie it back to looking at specific pages to look at specific projects. I just don't know if that's um something that's already created or I don't even know if we're allowed to see an Excel file of like some of the the tables. Yeah, we'll take note of that and then get back to you by the at the next meeting. Yeah. And and when we're looking at something like this, are are we, you know, allowed to follow up and request, you know, like backup documents like Excel files to or is it really kind of looking at the the PDF and reviewing the PDF as it stands? It's the the PDF document. Okay, great. Thank you. I had just a couple of uh comments operationally on this stuff. I think um I really appreciate that uh I didn't have to ask for extra justification on these projects and they were all already tied to our strategic pillars of the city. Uh I think I've mentioned doing that every year that I've been on here and I didn't have to ask. Um and it's looking great. Um so I really appreciate you all really tightening up the why which is super important for these projects and for the scale of investment that we're looking to make. Um, I think one of the other things that we can do a better job at communicating is how these uh impact our impact fees, which are certainly um pretty critical to ensuring that we continue to see uh healthy investment and development in the city

while also taking the burden off of our rateayers. Um, so that I would I'm sure you all can come up with something creative to to help craft that story. Um and then very similarly I think on the summary of uh the departments I think calling out on the prioritized list which ones of those are using these alternative and or innovative funding sources would be great so that there's kind of to your point a little bit of a consolidated list of hey uh you know 30% of our projects or whatever right are grant funded another 25% of them are you know reduced interest rates because we're doing it through the Texas water develment velment board, etc. Um, I think that's really important to tell the story of um, just how much money we are saving um, residents of the city. Um, so those were kind of my tactical things. Uh, and then in general, you know, I know this rec this is uh, a huge amount of effort across a ton of different departments and really appreciate all of the hard work that you all put into and bringing forth um, really impactful projects. Um, and having seen this for a few years in a row now, I feel really good about, you know, the direction that you all are are taking in the proposals and the level of detail and um and really appreciate all the hard work. So, thank you all for all all of the staff that's uh that's been involved in this. Yeah. Amen. Um, Amen. And I also noticed that y'all took our request for clarification and layout and summary at the beginning um into consideration in this draft and it's great. Um to y'all's points about the different funding associated with the project, I do want to ask Emily or anyone else who can speak to it. If y'all do that, what constraints does that then put on you rebudgeting later? because I know sometimes you'll have a funding source that could go to project X, Y, or Z, but once you publicly link the two, then you have to publicly

unlink them if something goes different and you want to maintain flexibility for that. I don't know if that would be an issue or not for y'all. looking at our finance director because I would hate to back y'all into a corner on on how you use your dollars. I would want to defer to the expertise of your finance director to to make the best use. I mean, one of the things about trying to lay out the funding with these projects is um you can see we're identifying what we have and what we know and then we're saying this is what we don't know. So even though it says future debts and they talk about um applying for grants. So before we step out to issue those future debts because we're trying to issue strategically so that we're issuing as we need the funds. Um so you know annual issuances makes more sense so that we're not issuing out you know 5 years worth of projects. And so every time we go to establish that project list for that bond issuance, we're going to make sure that we're not issuing funds for a project that has grant funding or could possibly have grant funding. Um, we do have some flexibility or we build in flexibility, especially if we're doing a certificate of obligation that we keep our words in our bond document flexible so that if we do end up getting grant funding for a project, we can pivot and shift that funding to another transportation project. I mean we have to keep it within the bucket but we may not necessarily have to keep it within the

project. So those are the things that we go through as we try to fund this and especially when I didn't mean to interrupt you. You're fine. I I don't again I haven't worked in city government but I do know that like when you have things like capital projects where there's a moving you have your milestones and you have your timeline and then the world happens and your supplier for your pipe is in Ukraine and so now your project is delayed sometimes the funding gets shifted so this project is going to finish up and this money is going to expire and we're waiting on pipes from Ukraine so let's take this money over here before it expires Just I just wanted to like call out there's a limit to how much detail we could have probably realistically on funding by project and we do make those decisions so that we can spend the oldest funds first. Exactly. Yeah. I have one question and I don't know if this is for the whole group or you can just tell me later. So um this this whole the CIP is intended for general public reading correct. Mhm. Okay. So my question is on the uh we all know that everybody is uh learns by images and things. So on the summary like project funding and feel free to stop me anytime you want, but the the paragraphs here that talk about drainage and facilities and parks, you know, I feel like those are really great impact statements that but they'll also have specific detail in there that are acknowledged in graphic form form later. But if a um citizen was or curious without going through the whole thing, is it possible to get some of the highlights like in page whatever this is CIP like the very one this very one here

to put some of those same charts without doing extra work other than just formation and layout to get that in there so somebody can read through it and go, "Oh, I see the city's really focused on $883 million for 45 projects, transportation master plan. Is there a way to make that a nice little Or could they say C page blah dah blah or they could do that some cross reference to the images? That's that's the only thing because I because I imagine if so one like one I talk a lot about what the city does to my friends which might surprise everybody but like I tell I tell them we're doing two billion dollars worth of public infrastructure projects. Um, I would love to be able to send them like six pages and go, "Here, you know, reference the other 139 pages that are worth reading." If I had a nickel for every time I've told my friends about the wastewater project. Yeah. Right. Like, you'd work for the Wastewater Department. I mean, if I had the skill set, anyway, that's it. Otherwise, wonderful stuff. Great. Thank you. Y'all are amazing as always. Anything else? Great. All right. All right. Well, we will adjourn at 8:55. Thanks everybody. Thank you. Thank you.