City Council - Regular Meeting

Mr. Mayor, it's now 6 o'clock. Are we ready to begin? We are ready for tonight's meeting. Yes. Recording in progress.

Okay. Good evening and uh welcome everyone to the regular meeting of the Pedaluma City Council, the Pedaluma Community Development Successor Agency for Monday, February 23rd. If you wish to provide a public comment on tonight's agenda, please fill out a speaker card. Uh they're located in the hallway just outside the chamber and bring it to our clerk up here in the front of the chamber. And uh please note that we have concurrent translation in uh several languages, Spanish included, uh available for all at this meeting. And uh to access the translation online uh please use the link that's in the agenda uh paper we have or on online agenda and uh in addition we also have the QR code on the very modern uh accessibility here today. So um let's see may we have our roll call for the evening.

Barnacle present. [clears throat] Ker Thompson here. Darly here. Now here. Quint here. Shribs here. McDonald here. We do have a quorum. Thank you. Uh let's stand for the pledge of allegiance.

Aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. And a moment of silence, please. Yeah. I'd like to note at this point that uh we'll be closing this meeting in honor of uh Jesse Jackson, our national leader who has uh died recently after a uh storied uh storied career of participation in government and u trying to make America a better place. um no better time to honor such a leader than during Black History Month and uh during a time when some of those achievements uh like the Voters Right Act are being uh re-evaluated and so we need to keep in mind um all those whose shoulders we today stand on. So, thank you. And that moves us to our agenda um for tonight. And I look up and down the dis at this point and in every meeting and say, are we going to adopt as is or are there any changes? See, council member Quint. Uh good evening, Mayor. Uh I have a hard stop this evening at 9:30 and uh item nine is of particular importance to me. If we can move that earlier in the agenda, I would appreciate it. and I'm looking to see whether anyone has any concern with that or whether that can be handled. Okay. So, let's move that last item up to be the first one of public hearings. And, um, any other items on the agenda, u, Council Member Darly? Um, yeah. So, I have a request. Um, you know, I put this in the form of a

memorandum the other day. Um, but let me first start by saying that I've called the FPPC and talked about the big points of this. They didn't see a conflict. I've looked up the FPPPC guidelines and the laws surrounding this and I was not provided an analysis of why I should have to recuse on this. And so because this particular property is more than 500 ft from my property, there's no materiality conflict and I do not need to recuse myself. So I'm following the protocol to request that we open a discussion about placing a lean on the ECAN property to protect the public as specified in that memorandum in detail. I'm only trying to protect the best interests of the public and serve the best interests of the city here as well. I realize that the city manager and city attorney have the final say whether we discuss this or not and I respect that. I'm just trying to follow the protocol myself because there is enormous bill of nearly a million dollars after it's all said and done that has not been paid for in the better part of 6 months.

Thank you. You know, um we did receive the letter. We did um take a look at it and my understanding from past um recusals that you've you've made on the overlay district that um you weren't that you'll be recusing on this and not in an eligible position for submitting that request. Um I if you've talked to the FPPC um I would um I would love to sit down and see if we can move this the next step forward. Um I'm not sure that um it's possible to discuss the the um actual uh fees at this time. Your projects are ongoing. Um but the main thing is is I mean the city has a practice of collecting every debt owed to it and has the tools in it and and any permit that goes forward says before you do anything you pay your bills. So, uh, I have great confidence in what we're doing, but if we need to have an offline discussion to see where we take the matter next, we could do that.

Well, and that's correct. And my request is that we use those tools that the city does have at their disposal to to make good on this, you know, and and at this point, we're looking at potentially doing a couple things and even tomorrow night with HCPC, you know, continuing to use staff staff time, meetings, um, you know, commissioner time, council time. it there's a lot more still going into it yet the bill is still there right and and the bill will likely be there I mean bills get collected often when the permit is issued you know you try and keep current but at the time the nobody gets to go to building without getting square first so we have process for that but but let's have an offline discussion

yeah well I would like to see if we can have um a council discussion as well that that was the point of the memorandum all All right. [clears throat] Um let's let's um take a look at what you've heard back from the FPPC and see if you know you can become a um signature on the on the suggestion. Okay. Well, do uh city manager, city attorney have anything to say as far as you know rule 2A and you know this action about city manager and city attorney um finding a need for this to be agenda. Mainly it's the issue over the past recusals and the current proposal. But everything else was done in in place to make this happen.

I not reviewed it for that level of detail. Your request will come in and then I'll have to see what can be addressed in a public forum and what doesn't get addressed in public forum. But I know at tomorrow night's meeting the condition. Mr. Mayor, if you'd like, I can add a couple remarks, but I don't want to interrupt you if you're not done. No, this is a good time.

Thanks. Um, so as the council knows, um, I've already advised regarding this issue. Um, and, um, and I'm not at liberty to go into that advice because it's it's a privileged communication. Um, but but I think I can say as a general matter that, um, the purpose of our advising about potential conflicts of interest with regard to any staff member, with regard to council members, with regard to subordinate body members is always the same. and that is to um provide the maximum um ability that we can to um legislative body members and staff to fully comply with their obligations under the ethical regulations and and and we'll continue to do our best to fulfill those obligations. I am not I do not have the information about what the vice mayor was informed by the FPBC and what was discussed and shared with them factually because those are very fact-specific analyses they do. So I can't really comment on that. I can say um that the mayor is absolutely correct in talking about um how it is that the um that the city um is careful to ensure it recovers the charges that are due um with respect to development applications. Um, and I've confirmed and I have actually in front of me the HAR condition of approval. Um, that will be part of the package considered um um tomorrow. It's provision 17. It's entitled cost recovery. It says consistent with the cost recovery agreement filed with the HSPAR application. All review costs relating to the processing of the entitlements and amendments required for this project shall be paid in full prior to issuance of a building permit. And that's that's from the standard condition list that applies to HPAR approvals also to planning commission approvals and for that matter city council approvals. Um so that's what I wanted to add. If there are any other

questions happy to address them. Okay. Um so let's you and I have a chat offline um about this and u with that do we um the council um the agenda for tonight as written we've suggested modified number nine up to first meeting of the hearing is council generally in agreement with that is there any disscent on that no descent and the the tonight's agenda is adopted with that one modification and um that brings us to our proclamations for the night and um it's um always one of my favorite parts of the the meeting. But I'd like to invite Ramona Faith uh the CEO of Healthy Pedaluma uh the our our healthy pedalum district and foundation and Tammy Bender, our hearts safe community program manager and Wendy Wendy is Wendy in the house? Yes. uh Wendy Auano, the uh the heart safety community program coordinator, up to the podium to accept tonight's proclamation, which is designating Paluma as a hearts safe community. And whereas the Healthy Paluma District and Foundation, Healthy Paluma was formed in 1946 by the will of the people with board members locally elected and accountable for improving the health and well-being of southern Sonoma County. And whereas healthy pedaluma serves as the leading organization providing backbone support for a communitywide heartsafe community initiative in collaboration with pedaluma fire department, the rancho adobe fire department and pedaluma save a life saves lives in Soma, Redcom 101. These are all organizations uh Paluma Valley Hospital and the American Heart Association as well as community volunteers to designate Paluma as a heart-safe community. And whereas healthy pedaluma works in partnership with hearts of Sonoma County and a hearts safe community advisory committee to educate the community on heart health

strategies. And whereas the goal of hard safe community program is to increase survival rates and reduce disability from sudden cardiac arrest by strengthening our community's response to cardiac emergencies through CPR, AED and uh certification and training, strategic AED place uh installation and maintenance, promoting heart safe health education, and following the American Heart Association's links in the cardiac chain of survival. And whereas in cardiovascular disease is the leading cause of death in the country and second leading cause of death in Sonoma County. And sudden cardiac arrest can happen anywhere at any time at any age to any person. And um a heartsafe community action plan was developed and implemented that has met established criteria for designation that supports the chain of survival such as community education on the signs and symptoms of heart attacks, the importance of calling 911, and um widespread community-based bilingual CPR and AED instruction, public access defibrills, and AED maintenance plans. And [clears throat] now therefore, be it resolved that I, Kevin McDonald, mayor of Pedaluma, along with all the members of the Pedaluma City Council, do hereby continue to designate Paluma as a heart-safe community and encourage all residents to learn the links in the chain of survival and other life-saving techniques to increase the chance of survival in the event of a cardiac arrest. Thank you all. [applause] Yeah, we um thank you so much. This is great. I remember some of you were here with our very first proclamation and um it's it's been wonderful. We've been expanding and getting more partners um and saving more lives, which is great. We did put together a little

presentation. Um what you're looking at right now is um our very first uh outdoor AED cabinet 247 accessible. That one was donated with um the in partnership with the Pedal Luma Rotaries, all of them. And we do partner with the um city park and wreck for the installation. Um and then we do the maintenance. Uh this one's at Lake Horn Park and um knock on wood, it hasn't had to be used yet, but it's there just in case. So, um, so that's something we didn't have when we first started HeartSafe Community in 2013. Um, we've come a long way. So, go ahead, next slide. So, what is a heart-safe community? Um, training a significant percentage of the population in handsonly CPR. That helps with the widespread training. Um, placing defiills out in the public. um because you don't need to be a medical professional to use one. They're designed for anybody. We've even had um a 16 or excuse me, a 17-year-old use one in the town of Sonoma that saved a life a couple years ago. Um we also um promote registration of these AEDs. And another new development uh since our initial proclamation is the advancement of something called Pulse Point. And that is a a phone app that integrates with our 911 dispatch and it will locate um the nearest defiill that is near where the cardiac arrest is happening out in the community. We'll talk a teeny bit more about that coming up. Um and then of course um our 911 dispatchers are all trained in Sonoma County to give instructions over the phone when someone calls on what to do to provide CPR,

which is amazing. Um, and we are the only or one of the only cities in P in Soma County where our police cars are equipped with AEDs. And that's that's amazing. So, that's something we should all really be proud of. And that um is greatly due to a local organization called Pedaluma Save a Life. They um it's the Cruising the Boulevard car show. Some of you might have been there. They raise funds and they um donate the defibrillators to the police department and then we um maintain them for them and track all the expirations and things like that. And then um you know we would love to prevent hard heart attacks and cardiac arrest from happening and that starts with heart health education. So we do implement that in um all of our events that we do and our CPR classes. So that's kind of what a heart- safe community is. I'll let you go to the next slide. Okay, so now you know what it is. Why do we need it? Why is it so important? One of the statistics you were already given, sudden cardiac arrest is a number one killer um in the United States, the second in Sonoma County. Um this is a statistic a lot of people don't know. about 23,000 youth um suffer a cardiac arrest annually and 40% of those happen during sports. And so we did in the last four years, five years maybe, we we have done two youth and young adult cardiac screenings and we actually did find some youth that were walking around with undiagnosed anomalies that could lead to sudden cardiac arrest. Um, sports physicals listen to the heart, but these anomalies have to be seen through EKG and those typically are not part of a sports physical. So, so that was a really exciting thing that we've been

able to bring to the Pedaluma and the county at large. And, uh, it is heart month, which is why we choose February to come and do these proclamations every other year. But it's also um go red for women, women's heart health. And so I have one more stat statistic for you. Um women are less likely to receive CPR from bystanders out in the community greatly due to fear of legal ramifications and accusations of inappropriate touching. um 39% of women and 45% of men receive bystander CPR and that does result in about a 20% less survival rate for women. So um we recently implemented female anatomy mannequins into all of our classes. Um, and when we I was a little I've been teaching CPR for over 20 years and this was new for all of us and I, you know, put them out there and just kind of waited to see what happened. And I am so amazed with the response, the positive response of people so excited to finally see a female anatomy mannequin because women need CPR, too, you know. All right, next one, please. All right, so some straightforward solutions to the problems. Um this is a great photo. We did a um daycare center in town and they um were very nice to let us you know give us permission to use this photo. But you know we train adults uh for for adult victims, children and infants. Um but you know what can we do to not make cardiac arrest the number one killer in the United States? Um, we want to flood public spaces with AEDs and also citizens that are equipped to start handsonly CPR and use those devices. Um, we want to train as many people as possible because when someone does

suffer a sudden cardiac arrest, from the time you make the phone call to the time those responders show up, those crucial few minutes, that could be the difference between life and death. So getting responders where these things happen, having the tools like the defibrillators there should really we should really start seeing increasing increase in survival rates which is what this is all about. Um you know every minute counts and we do um have pulse point in Soma County the phone app that anybody can download. It will help direct you to a, you know, if a cardiac arrest happens nearby and you are a responder, it will alert you possible, you know, CPR needed, you can choose to go or not. And every AED that is in Pulse Point, 911 knows its location. So, does anyone know if we have AED in this building?

Yes,

we do. We do. Okay. So, a lot of us don't know that. So if something gosh forbid happened here, we called 911. They would say, "Hey, go grab the defibrillator in the hallway in the front of the building." And that's that's huge, you know, because the they call it drop to shock. The quicker we shock after someone drops, the better the survival rate. And I think we're ready for the last slide. I'll let you put that up there. Um, so hearts safe community designation is something that we would love to expand to more cities in the in the county, but we'll just go over the great spot that Paluma is in. So, currently the city of Paluma under the city um spaces, 14 of those um are enrolled in the heartsafe community membership. 36 additional sites are in Paluma. And it doesn't sound like a lot, but 36 sites, but that means all of the schools in Paluma City Schools. So that's I think 14 different sites are just under there. PEP housing um you know different different places throughout. So it doesn't mean 36 AEDs, it means 16 sites. Um the AEDs are registered and tracked. And so Pulse Point, the county AED um tracker or locator I should say, has about a little over a thousand defibrills in there. But we don't know if those AEDs that are in pulse point are going to actually be maintained and working when we grab them. Some Anybody can put them in the registry. There's an AED here. Great. But healthy pedaluma, we have over 500 AEDs in our registry. many of which are in Pulse Point, but some are not. Um, we know that those 500 are maintained. We track and replace the batteries and the pads before they expire, a couple months before they expire. And I have come across defiills that um I just went this weekend somewhere someone called and said, "Hey,

come check the AED at our facility." And I went in there, was not functioning. Battery expired about six months ago. So, you know, we we really do our goal is to make sure that if you have an AED and you go to use it, it's going to work. So, um so that's a really big one. Uh the police department is equipped with AEDs or vehicles like I mentioned. Um and I do want to do a shout out to the Rotaries for doing so many donations for especially recently the outdoor AEDs. And I do want to shout out to our fire department, too. The fire chief couldn't be here this evening. he really wanted to. But we've had a long-standing partnership and support with them. And this week, um, they are doing all the seventh grade handsonly CPR in Paluma. There has been, uh, two Pedaluma students that use their seventh grade CPR training to save lives. And so, um, we want to keep that going. In Paluma, it's about 3 thou, well, about 25 to 3,000, um, students every year. And then we also do have training at the high school level as well. Um, do you want to have any words that you want to say?

I just I just want to I just want to thank uh the city for their support and thank the departments within the city for their support. I mean really the the fire, the police, EMS, very supportive. We couldn't do this program without their support. And I just want to thank Tammy. She's the heart of the heart program as you can tell. She's been doing it for years. And if you're a relative of Tammy's or a friend of Tammy's and you don't know hands only CPR, you're not invited to dinner. That's that's the way she is. So, thank you so much. All right, the very last Thank you very much.

One last thing, the takeaway slide is call to action. Download those uh Pulse Point apps and um learn how to do CPR and where the AEDs are. Now, I'm done.

Thank you very much. [applause] All right. And um that brings us to our presentation for the evening. [clears throat] Uh and our presentation tonight is about the Cfield Bridge and the extension that uh update. And uh we have Bjorn Greetberg, project manager uh up up to the podium uh who will introduce uh friends and and uh the rest of the team. But uh I'd like to note that uh immediately following their presentation and council dis discussion questions um we go into general public comment which is where the public can ask questions on this topic if they have questions on this topic as well. And uh so uh with that um Mr. Gubber, please take it away. Great. Thank you. Good evening Mayor and council members. Um tonight we're excited to bring an update to you on this exciting project, the Cfield Caulfield Lane bridge and extension cross town connector project. Um it has been quite some time since our team has engaged with council and the community on this project. So tonight uh we are looking forward to uh giving you an update on everything our project team has been working on and also tee up some engagement activities that we will be um coming back to the community with uh throughout this year. So, with that, I'll pass it off to Jason Hickey, who's the structures lead for Mark Thomas and our deputy project manager on this. Thanks.

Thank you. Um, we can dig into the next slide. Uh, to give uh the council and uh the public a little bit of background about the project. The project is going to construct a new drawbridge across the Paluma River to provide uh another cross town connector that would uh connect between uh the the south and the north uh along the existing Cfield Lane. Uh the project would create a safe and convenient crossing for people walking, bicycling, rolling uh however they they choose to get across along with uh vehicular traffic. Uh the project would also relieve congestion along existing cross town corridors including the the Washington and D Street crossings. Additionally, it would have the benefit of providing improved emergency uh response times and uh access in an alternative way uh across the river. The the project is in an area that is uh developing especially uh on the north bank. uh in in yellow there you can see the Paluma River Park which is a significant development uh along the the Pedaluma River and the McNair channel. Uh [snorts] additionally there's uh development on the southeast uh corner of the the project right near the where the proposed bridge is going to be. That's the newly constructed Riverplace Apartments. Uh and then north uh next to the Marriott uh there's uh several uh planned developments that are uh in various progress uh of being completed.

Next slide. Uh here's an image uh from the Pedaluma River Park uh of what that uh project could be and what it's envisioned to be at this time. Uh we're working uh as a project team uh to coordinate uh actions and make sure that uh the Cfield extension and our project are well coordinated. Next slide. Uh a recap of some of the uh recent project milestones. Uh we've completed preliminary design. We've completed all of the the topographic surveys. We coordinated with the Riverplace Apartments on uh their street frontage to make sure that that frontage is compatible with the bridge project. Uh we've completed the hydraulic analysis to make sure that there's uh we're not going to exacerbate any any flooding or have uh hydraulic impacts. We've completed the bridge type selection report which looked at several different alternatives and uh I'll show some renderings on what the proposed alternative uh is later in in my presentation. We've also completed the the first round of public engagement with um kind of more broad uh public outreach as well as a neighborhood focused meeting. Uh and then the geotechnical investigation is largely complete. We still have one boring to do uh within the the river uh that'll occur this summer. Next slide. Uh kind of the some of the next steps uh and things that are in progress. Uh we're working through the environmental technical studies and uh one of the key components of this bridge project that isn't seen on a lot of other uh bridge

projects is uh coordination with the Coast Guard. This is a navigation uh navigable waterway. So, coordination with uh the Coast Guard is important and uh critical as the project needs a permit from the Coast Guard to be able to go to construction. Uh the uh right now the Coast Guard has the uh all of the exhibits for them to prepare the notice to mariners which will go out likely later this month. that will give waterway users an opportunity to comment on the navigational clearances that are proposed for this project and provide any feedback that they may have. Um the design is uh in progress and advancing beyond the concept level. Uh also on the north end of the project where we have the Cfield extension, we're crossing the railroad tracks uh adjacent to Hopper and that requires uh CPU coordination for that railroad crossing. So we're working on getting a a field meeting uh with them to uh work out uh their needs as part of the the Cfield extension and the uh revisions to that intersection that we're proposing. And I'll show that in a minute. Then also upcoming later this spring, we plan to have uh another round of public engagement where uh community members can come out and provide uh their input and uh what they see on the project and uh make sure that we as the design team and the city can hear their their concerns and uh benefits to the project and how we can make that um the best project for the community. Here's uh the bridge layout. Uh the north side is on the left of the screen. Uh the south side is on the right. Um the the

bridge because it needs to move uh will have a counterwe to be able to balance the the span that needs to to lift to allow navigation. That counterwe has been placed on the the callfield lane side. That's to help prevent um any backup into the the Pedaluma Boulevard roundabout that may occur when the bridge operates. Um that that is a a critical component to maximize queuing and make sure that we have uh minimum of traffic impacts to Paluma Boulevard. If we take a look at the next slide, um, one of the the early alternatives we evaluated was, uh, an overhead counterweight option. Uh, this has a couple of benefits structurally. Um, one of the the cons is obviously the the visual impacts are significant. Uh this overhead counterweight uh is about 45 uh feet in height and we are standing on the corner of Cfield and Batista where there is a house and so you can you can see this uh definitely impacts um the visual nature of that. So, we worked with the city uh to help refine some of these and we were able to move the counterweight to below the roadway level into a pit pier. And so the next slide shows what what that looks like. Um I think I think it's pretty clear uh which one is better. Uh so this is uh the alternative we are proposing to move forward with. Uh I want to show you uh a couple other vantage points of uh what this looks like uh from other parts of the city. So uh let's go to the next

slide. Uh so here's like a orthographic view where we're uh we have um Bautista on the north bank on the upper left and then we have the existing CALR maintenance yard uh on the south on the bottom right. And uh this image was taken before the the apartments were built, so you can't see that there, but you can see we have one one pier within the water that has been uh optimized to make sure we uh don't um cause any flooding and that is the rest pier. Uh so uh if we take a look at the next slide kind of what that looks like. Uh this is looking north uh from uh up above uh Paluma uh Boulevard uh looking through the roundabout. This is that's the extension. Uh here's a exhibit from our conceptual design for the Cfield extension. So, um it's a little bit hard to see in this exhibit, but uh Cfield Lane, uh is going to extend south uh across the railroad tracks through the existing uh city corpyard where you have the the treatment plant. Now, um that's going to come down to a roundabout. And uh right now we're showing a a westbound leg uh off to the left that would connect to the uh Pedaluma River Park uh development. We have capacity to add a southbound leg to additional development that may occur as part of that project. Uh so we're in conversations with them on what it is that they need, but they're still relatively early on on their um grid layout and everything. Um for the northbound leg of the Cfield

extension, we would have uh separated pathways with tree planting in between and uh a raised median. uh we would eliminate that raised median uh kind of on the east west legs uh just because of uh rightaway constraints and to maximize the development for nearby property owners. Next slide. Here's a elevation of what the bridge looks like. Uh you can see we've got that big box on the left hand side. That's where the the counterwe is housed. that is basically on the existing bank so it doesn't have any impacts to the the river or the river flows and won't impact flooding at all. Um there's a a opening for the existing pathway to go underneath the roadway so the pathway does not have a conflict with roadway traffic that's going to be using uh Cfield Lane or the Cfield extension. Then we have um over the main span we have a 90 foot um wide plus a little bit um of horizontal clearance for waterway users to cross. Um, additionally, there's 70 ft above uh basically the the flood elevation for uh like masted boats and recreational vehicles to make sure that we uh adhere to the the Coast Guard's requests for navigational clearance. On the next slide, this is the bridge cross section. Uh the bridge has two lanes of vehicular traffic and then a multi-use path. uh on each side that'll provide views and uh recreational opportunities as well as uh safe transportation for all mode users.

Next slide. So upcoming public engagement uh the notice to mariners will be sent out um likely later this month by the coast guard. uh a copy of or a link to that will be uh posted on the city's uh project web page and uh the public can uh comment on that if they'd like. Um, additionally, in the spring we're going to have that second uh community meeting and then uh the draft environmental document will be circulated later this fall which will be available for for public comment. Next slide. Here's a schedule of the project kind of moving forward. Um that draft environmental document is going to be in the fall uh followed by the final environmental document and addressing uh any comments that we receive uh in spring of 27. design will basically wrap up that summer with a shovel ready project looking uh for uh sometime in in 2028. Uh the project is funded through design but is does not have all of its uh construction funding yet. Uh it's partially funded for uh construction. Uh talking about costs, um the the costs for the the bridge and the extension project are kind of broken down here. The the big ticket item is the uh structure uh and the mechanical equipment associated with the movable span. Uh that is estimated at $90 million which includes 20% contingency and escalation uh for future construction.

Uh the approach spans uh those are approximately $3 million. The extension including the roadway improvements uh is $4 million for a total project cost of about $97 million. With that, I will open it up to questions. And uh for anyone uh in the audience or watching online, there's a link to the city's project web page there. Thank you very much. Great presentation. and we're all anxious for this project and uh keep seeing it in the budget every year and so um council any particular questions council member sh

um yes on the um the bridge as it expands across you have a part that does go up and down uh let's assume it's a smaller boats are going through so at high tide uh what is the height limitation on on the bridge so we know that what small boats can go through without lifting

yeah so at a normal high tide we're looking at about 8 ft of clearance between the the water and the bottom of the bridge. So depending on the the type of vessel um and the tides uh they may be able to cross uh without uh needing any operation. Uh the clearance is quite a bit better than the smart bridge uh immediately downstream uh which is very low to the water compared to the the proposed bridge. Okay. I just wanted to see how much traffic might have to go up and down compared What about compared to the D street bridge more often or less often raising and lowering?

I Yeah, I I I think it's similar to uh the the clearance at at D Street similar clearances what type of boats are going to be uh raised for each case. Yes. So about about the same number of raising as the D street bridge when boats are coming in and out. Correct. That's good to know. Um, second one, you have a 4ft shoulder on either side and then I wasn't sure if you had a uh a middle um space between the two lanes. So, why do we have four feet on the outside and and less on the inside? I would think two or three feet on the inside and two or three feet on the outside for lanes because do really need all that.

Can I ask if we pop that slide back up? Yeah. I think it's like slide 10. Um, so the uh the cross-section and view, you can uh jump in if you'd like to. Um, where where you place your car uh within that uh basically 15 ft is is kind of up up to the driver. Uh there will be a a center stripe, but uh and are we striping?

Well, we can put a a white fog line uh stripe on the the outside, but um it 11 ft is is common for uh the the lane width. Uh right. I'm just thinking of of a of a wider uh middle lane rather than wider 4ft shoulders would be more important for cars truck passing each other and trucks.

Yeah. Yeah. So, um right now kind of our our default on these busier arterial roadways that are serving um transit and uh and uh see a lot of emergency response. Uh we're generally going with 10 and a half or 11 foot lanes. uh we don't really want to go too much wider than that or you start to encourage speeding and uh this is not anticipated to be a freight route. So um no need for really to go any wider for um for freight. Um the idea here with this cross-section you see is providing enough width so that in the event of an emergency and uh if fire or police need to get through, people can pull over, use that 4ft shoulder and there's enough room remaining for an emergency vehicle to split the middle and get through. Okay. What I'm suggesting is asking about is why not have two feet in the exact center of the whole thing so that instead of the cars together like this, they're apart when they're passing each other instead of passing like this. I'm thinking about the exact center lane. Are we talking about a 6 inch line, a foot line, a twoft line? Center a standard double yellow uh detail.

Okay. Those are those are around a foot wide, foot and a half wide uh with the uh reflective markers. Okay. Just checking on what what that center piece cuz that's where we have Lakeville has problems with reefs going fast and then they're uh hitting each other in the in that center area. Gotcha.

Okay. That's just a concern I have just to make sure that we're we're covered on that part. Um then on the design, so I'd like to find out um there was some money that we had appropriated at the very beginning for this whole project. So how much money is is going going into when we finally get to 100% design? How much money has gone into the design part to 100%. And how much money is going to be left over for actual construction? I know those numbers are in uh the FY26 or 2526 budget book. I don't have the exact number off the top of my head. I believe our design budget for this project was in the ballpark of seven or eight million. Um and right now we are showing um again working off the top of my head here, but I believe we were showing uh somewhere in the neighborhood of $35 million uh assigned to the project. um mostly traffic impact fees but also I believe there were some developer contributions showing for the project.

Okay. So that means we have about $28,000 left over after the design but with about uh for the construction about $90 million. So we still have to raise 60 to $70 million then somewhere. Great. Yeah. And obviously our construction cost estimates will become more uh fine-tuned as we get closer to 100% design and and also we may at some point come back to council with some decisions to make on potential uh value engineering measures that can be taken with the project to hopefully get that number down a little bit.

Good. U now I know um at one point in the past I've suggested uh not having a movable bridge but just having a permanent one. maybe just a little bit higher but but just permanent without the movable part um which would restrict the size of boats coming in and out uh at that time. So just for comparison to note um the movable part how much does that actually add to the cost of the bridge and uh so that we understand the the cost of allowing boats in and out looking at dredging costs what we have there added to that to keep the basin clear uh because I'm not sure if we're ever going to get up there. So adding all those up and trying to compare that to the economy of the boat traffic. So, uh, the concern I had is are we overspending to maintain our boat traffic or, um, would it be much more effective to park all the boats at the marina and then keep the bridge down low? So, what is that moving part actually cost uh for just so that we know what we're paying for in order to have our boat economy here?

I'll just I'm sure Jason can speak to the numbers. Um but I'll I'll just say uh that yeah really I think an important part of that decision would would need to be the impacts it would have on on dredging which obviously have broader impacts on um flood control and uh the hydraulics of the river. So, um, that would be a major, um, trade-off to make is is basically foregoing the ability, I think, to dredge the river, um, upstream of of this location, um, along taken taken, uh, into consideration alongside the recreational impacts. Um, and I'll see if Jason speak.

Yeah. Um the the other piece of that is uh the the Coast Guard uh is in charge of navigable waterways. And aside from doing a fixed bridge that is similar to the height of uh Highway 101, which is just downstream, um they will not issue a a permit for the project that you're you're describing.

Right. I'm I'm saying uh to keep our river navigable, what is the actual cost? The raised bridge keeps it navigable. Closed bridge not navigable. What is the actual cost to keep it navigable by having that raised part compared to let's look at the economy of not navigable? What is the real e economic cost to that? What are the two costs is what I've been asking all along. Yeah, we got a real good answer on that. Can I ask did this get covered in early workshop on uh project plan decisions? I don't I don't know that we ever provided a cost estimate for a fixed bridge. You're thinking that the fixed bridge was never a conceivable uh permittable project. So you you stopped before getting into engineering the cost for that?

We really haven't looked at a fixed bridge due to the the river's designation as a navigable waterway. Is that something that uh you can give us a back of the envelope number on if we gave you a few days or weeks? The the challenge is um the the height would be the same as the 101 bridge and you would not be able to within the reasonable limits be able to to touch back down. I'm not saying that's this would not be navigable. No, it would be closed road. It would no longer be a a navigable river at all. So you don't need any height because there's no boats coming up and down. Let's let a new expert has come to the stand. Let's have a new expert speak.

So, uh, good evening. My name is Zach Civilia. I'm the project manager. Uh, I've been I've seen a number of you before, so it's good to see you all again. Understand the question. And I think, uh, given a couple days, we could come back and, uh, provide Bejorn an estimate of what that would look like with the understanding that it would require uh, the Coast Guard to buy off on that. We don't have that number right now just because we have not costed out a project like that given that the project was to build a movable bridge. That being said, it would be significantly less expensive to build a fixed bridge than it would be to build a movable spin. I think it was just important that if it's a $30 million cost to put in the movable bridge, yeah,

is is worth not doing that and putting that effort in to actually not putting in the movable bridge and having the plan to do many d there's many small dredging machines that could go under 10 foot. So, um I'm pretty much a different system here. I just like to have the evaluation. Okay. Yeah. Any questions on the presentation tonight?

Okay. Um, thank you for the presentation. This is um an area that not a lot of people know about. It's very close to my neighborhood. We use Batista Way as a location for my family and friends to meet and watch the light a boat parade and watch all those tall sailboats go down the river. So, I'm really excited. But one thing um a community member brought to my attention and I know we're going to do the landscaping design somewhere. Can we fit in a river walk along there with some trees and some landscaping because right now it's just weeds on the Batista side and then can we encourage Calrans to kind of step up their landscaping because there's none right now. And um let me see what else I have on my notes. Um the um oh the community member also we have um the I don't know if it's a new word bioells and that's an area that could really benefit and it could maybe then run off into the Pedaluma River and the landscaping. So, is that something we can do um in that area leading up to the bridge on both sides? Yeah. So, actually um the good news is uh all of the storm water or at least the vast majority of the storm water in the riverfront neighborhood already goes through uh some sort of filtration before it enters the river. Um lots of biosails in that neighborhood. So, um that's kind of that's more or less taken care of on the on the north bank. And then um there are some bio swells that were installed along the Riverplace Apartments uh frontage on the other side of the river. So um most of that storm water uh in the vicinity of the bridge is already going through some some degree of filtration before it enters the river. And of course as we're working through the storm water plans for this project, that's something that

we'll That's great to know. Thank you. Um I think that's all I have. Thank you. You're welcome. I just wanted to also answer the first question about the riverwalk and landscaping opportunities. So during our community meeting last year, we did share some concept renderings of what that area would look like and it does include landscaping along that stretch. So that is something that we're actively already including with the project. That's very appreciated because I know the the neighborhood uses it. It's a great little park. It's a great little area, but it's in the winter time. It's muddy and weedy, and it would be nice to have a landscape path at least to stand and watch the light a boat parade. Don't tell anybody.

Thank you. Did you want to touch on the the pathways that are planned along the the river because the city's been proactive in planning?

So, yeah, it is exciting to watch hopefully watch our our river trail continue to grow. Obviously, there was a section uh included with the riverfront development as part of their improvements. Um and and the vision is for that to extend uh on both sides of that pathway. Um the city has a CIP project to take it over to the marina and Schlenburgger under uh US 101. And then uh there's also obviously uh with the river park phase 2 plans uh well phase one and phase two plans um pathway extension that would connect uh that area over across McNair channel via pedest a pedestrian bridge and into um uh the pedal river park. So a lot of great connectivity that's expanding in that area along our river. Thank you.

Thank you. A lot of good happening along that side of the river opening up the river. Any uh um other thoughts and comments? Council Vice Mayor Darley.

Thank you all for the presentation tonight. Um I'm personally excited to see this because I think it'd be awesome to connect the south end of town and for all the reasons you mentioned um alleviating traffic emergency reasons and then to connect businesses and people on both sides. So I think it'll be a much needed thing. Um you know you uh you mentioned that the Coast Guard was going to be sending out a notice to mariners. I'm wondering at this point what has the city done getting this far in the design to reach out to um uh river industry and business that that does use the waterway. So um at this point we really obviously pedalum has a great legacy of um river dependent industrial activity. Um however at this point there there really isn't uh to my knowledge any any remaining industrial activity on that reach of uh the waterway um past past this bridge. So uh that's something that we has not actively been taken into account with our engagement. Uh however of course with the navigation the navigable clearances that are required with coast guard those are really designed and put in place to protect that future possibility um should should any sort of industry return to the river. Uh the clearances both horizontal and vertical would allow for uh the movement of larger larger vessels. Well, so I did um I did speak with some river industry that has used our river for a very very long time and you know they do have some concerns about it and so that's I would hope that you know going forward we can talk to those people and any others that might use it. Um you know they'll they'll be able to tell you better than I can but um some of their concerns are around just having bumpers on the abupment um versus fenders you know and why why we're choosing to do that. Um well I'll ask my other questions. Do you have an answer to that one right now?

Yeah. So um if you go to the elevation view um what we've we've done is uh eliminate the the fender system which which is basically like imagine a guard rail around the the bridge pier. Um because of the the design vehicles and the the barges that we're accounting for in the bridge design, we're able to design the the pier to withstand uh a barge uh bouncing off of that uh because of uh the nature of the that pier design itself. So, we've put um rather than a separate fender system, which would encroach on the waterway and reduce those navigational clearances and actually provide like less room for um marine users to to be able to uh get through the channel. Um we've decided to design the the pier to be able to withstand any any forces that that might accommodate that and just put rub rails along the face of the pier. uh that way it doesn't uh hopefully damage the the boat or the the bridge itself. Uh so yeah,

and then just one other technical point to why the the fender system the independent fender system was not included is this is a very active flood control channel. And in terms of modeling, there's a lot of work that we had to do in terms of how we orient the pier, what shape the pier is. And if we put additional obstructions in the river, it did have a impact on water surface elevations for the 100red-year storm that we do have to design for. So, this was a good balance of again protecting the pier, making sure that it is um you know, something that is not going to cause damage, but then also making sure that we can accommodate any of the future storms that need to come through this area. Um, and so that that one person did ask, you know, in that case, would you then be willing to sign off and say that that pier could withstand a 4,000 ton barge traveling at 8 knots hitting it?

Yeah, I it the the design vessel is something on on that order of magnitude. I'd have to to take a look at the the calculations that we did to make sure that we could withstand that, but I I could get back to you with that exact design load. Okay. Yeah. No, that would be great because that's historically some of what we've had going up and down the river. Yeah. Correct.

Um, another question I have too is why can we not center the bridge over the river? Uh, so we could center the bridge over the river, but what we've um focused on doing is centering the the navigational opening over the deepest part of the river. kind of based on uh historical bathome metrics which is just underwater survey. Uh so we make sure that the navigational uh opening that we're providing by the bridge doesn't encumbumber the deepest part of the channel. So making sure that those two line up.

Yeah. Um, also there has been coordination with the US Coast Guard already to get to this point and part of their outreach to mariners. They determine where the navigation opening needs to be. And so the opening dimensions that Jason talked about during the presentation have come from the initial coordination we've had with the US Coast Guard. As I go back out with their next notice here, there will be outreach to the mariners and that's where they look at is there any adjustments that are needed. So we do have the flexibility to move that navigation channel where they determine is best. Right now this is based on the outreach that they've received from mariners, but they haven't received any outreach for this project.

There has been a notice to mariners that went out. It was several years ago at this point. U but there was initial uh feedback from mariners to the US Coast Guard.

Okay. Okay. because some of the and again I would encourage everyone to reach out to them all but uh you know some of the standards to keep 25 ft off the bank so that puts you very close to the pier you know and not having a fender there and it it makes it a very it's already very uh it's a very uh you know challenging business to be in you know there's a lot of safety risks and so forcing them kind of to get closer to that peer is is a concern of theirs. Um, so yeah, so I would encourage you to reach out to them because we, you know, we're in the middle right now trying to promote so much business and economy in Paluma, we don't want to potentially lose anymore because we overlooked anything. Um, my last uh comments will be about, you know, have was it ever considered to do more of a trust style bridge or have iron up above it, you know, to look more like our other bridges or or to give it more of an old flavor like Pedaluma has. It was so part of the type selection report, we looked at uh a number of different alternatives. So the truss type structures, one of them was shown in that early rendering that Jason mentioned. So you end up with needing that overhead counterweight, which because of just the visual obstruction that we were trying to avoid, the reason we decided to go with that pit pier is it reduces the profile of the bridge quite a bit. The span for this bridge is quite a bit longer than some of the other bridges and that's the reason why the truss and the overhead counterweight it would end up being a lot larger than what you currently see in some of the other structures.

Okay. Now, how do you know how much more approximately a trust style bridge would cost or if or if it does cost more? It in terms of unit weight of steel it it's not necessarily more or less. It's just the visual obstruction that you would see. Um and again what drives the cost ma mainly is the span that that we are trying to design for. Okay. Is it possible that in in the future when you guys come back to us we could see some alternative designs that um are similar to like our D street bridge or the railroad bridge just south of the of 101. Absolutely. So Bejorn I know we have a type selection report that's already been drafted so we can coordinate with Bujornne and getting that information shared with the council.

Okay. Thank you. Yeah.

Yeah. Thanks everybody. I appreciate um you guys um making the presentation. Uh I know uh projects that take a long time. Sometimes we come back and visit the same point maybe we thought of early on because we haven't refreshed. So maybe in the next update a little where we've been and throw a couple of those early slides that two or three years ago decisions were made that got us to today's design. But I do like that we're able to grill you on design decisions and and and you can keep saying, "Yeah, we thought about that." Yeah, that's part of what Coast Guard requires. I mean, and I'm sure you're open to if we do know of anybody who has expertise or or concern in town that you that staff would be welcome to have their contact so they can get firsthand um confidence in the project before waiting to some other future meeting. So, I'm sure you all could be in touch. Um, thank you very much. I hope you'll say for the um public comment in case anyone has a specific address of this issue. Um, all right. And that moves us on to our general public comment for the night. And um, general public comment. Um, the public is invited to make comments on items of public interest that are within the city council's subject matter jurisdiction and not listed on the current agenda. And the comments are listed uh the comments are limited to up to three minutes per person. But depending on the number of persons wishing to address the council, time will be allocated in equal shares totaling no more than 20 minutes. And if we have more than 20 uh people wishing to speak, additional comments could be heard after the last business item. Uh this is also the opportunity to say something about the um the bridge if you so inclined. And so I'd like to turn it over to the clerk and ask if we've gotten cards or letters or emails. Uh and then our message for tonight.

Yes. So we did receive 24 general public comments before the meeting. Those are posted online. And at this time I will start a 30 second clock. So during these 30 seconds, members of the public should bring their speaker cards to my desk if they have not already done so. Speaker cards received after this time may not be accommodated.

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We have uh 13 uh folks that wish to speak tonight. And at 13 that let's set the clock at 1 and a half minutes, 90 seconds here. And um and I just have to remind um 90 seconds will go by pretty fast. So, um, you know, really try and get your key point out there early, um, so that you don't find yourself running out of time. But also, if you have comments that extend longer than that period, we do suggest that you submit them in writing and then they make it into the complete record. And um, I think I can speak for every council person here. They read all of the comments that come in. So, um, you note that it is valuable to submit in writing. Um, our first speaker is Amy Taylor to be followed by Gary Dver.

Hi, good [clears throat] evening. I'm here tonight to talk about the 114 dogs that were left in their own urine, feces, no medical care, left to die. I have a thing. This is North Bay Animal Services intake form from April 2025. This dog was found. This was an outside jurisdiction. We we contacted Lake County Animal Services and notified them in case anyone was looking for him. He is safe now at the shelter. So now the picture on the right, does he look safe in the shelter? It's graphic. If you don't want to look, don't look. Does he look safe to anybody here on the right hand side? Yeah. No, he doesn't look safe, does he? He looks almost dead. So, I just want to know what the city council has any plans to have a meeting or a public discussion about North Bay Animal Services, about the executive director who has continued this behavior. And if you think that there wasn't dogs from Pedaluma at Clear Lake Shelter, you are completely wrong. I want transport information. I want to know who intake. This is the only intake picture I could find. And that's off of their website. There's a problem. And here lies the problem. My friend has a mother dog with six puppies that was stuffed in a crate. The puppies were eating off of her. She's alive, thank God. But there's a problem here and you guys need to solve it. And that's what I'm here to say. And I appreciate you listening to me tonight.

Have a good night.

Thank you. I think I'll take a minute to um interject for a second. Is is that um our next council meeting next Monday night. This is agenda and so uh we'll be um covering the full gamut of of um what's happened in Clear Lake and what it means to pedaluma and what pedaluma needs to do for for actions. So I hope you'll um be here for that discussion next week. Um Gary Dver to be followed by Wendy Jacobs. Good evening, Mayor McConnell and members of city council. First of all, I want to thank each of you for your public service to the citizens of Paluma. Uh my wife and I moved here 5 years ago. We've seen measured improvements every year in the services that the city offers to our community and that's directly related to the leadership that you folks provide. I do. Another reason I came tonight to thank you number one was to give a shout out to a public employee that I've had interactions with that that deserves our accommodation, our gratitude. And I'm speaking of Scott Gibby, the assistant operation manager for public works. Scott's been great to work with, uh, very accommodating. He's just the kind of employee that you want to have on your roles and is a good reflection on the leadership again that you provide. You know, sadly, most of what you hear from the public is negative in nature. And I'm kind of here tonight with the representing maybe the silent majority that appreciates all that you do and the steps to move our city forward that you've provided, the leadership that we have. So, keep up the good work. you're appreciated in a lot of quarters of the

community and um it's not always a a it is a thankless job sometimes. I hope you have a short meeting tonight. Well, uh thank you very much on all counts. Wendy Jacob to be followed by Stephanie Sanchez.

Thank you council members. I'm Wendy Jacobs, chair of Relief Pedaluma, and I speak for Relief Paluma tonight. In my written public comment, which you will find at pages 77 and 78, I think I was maybe first in, last out. Um, I I have introduced you to the topic of the tree preservation or tree protection ordinance, which will be coming to you in about a month for first reading. Thank you, city manager, and thank you, Mr. Danley for your work on this important ordinance. Relief Paluma supports this ordinance and the purpose of my written comment tonight is to provide you with a couple of attachments to help you begin to process the decision that you'll be making in a month. I have given you the um 2025 canopy assessment report which was completed by consultant plan it go as part of our urban forest management plan which will also be presented to you in March and this is a fairly dense long report. I will um cut to the chase in the area of concern for us. Our tree canopy is not good in pedaloma. It has been assessed at 14% and relief suggests that it is poor quality as well as poor quantity of trees in the city due to poor sighting and pruning practices over a long period of time. So I hope you'll have a chance to take a look at that attachment and also our slide deck. Thank you.

Thank you. Uh Stephanie Sanchez to be followed by Christine White. Hello everybody and thank you very much for what you do as well. And um I just it's it's going to be hard for me to frame this really quickly, but I just wanted you to I'm here to support the TPO and um it's going to be before you on the 16th of this month um next month, right, Wendy? [clears throat] And um I just to quickly I moved to the Peran district um 22 years ago and um first thing I noticed was that there were no trees anywhere. It's a very tree it's like a tree desert and I've noticed stumps where large trees have been cut down. Um I've I've also found that the rentals in that area, they don't that none of the landlords allow trees in front of their houses. um even though tenants have told me that they would like a tree. Um, so I I joined Releaf finally and I'm on the tree committee mainly because I wanted to see some changes there for the better in Paluma and um I've I've worked with a lot of the neighbors in in the in my um in my um area and it's it's a really it's a it's a it's something that really has to happen. And so I support it's a very complicated kind of um um ordinance but it needs to happen for the future of our town. So thank you.

Thank you Christina White to be followed by Darren Rakuzen.

Hello Mayor McDonald council members. My name is Christine White and I'm here to speak about the redistricting and the council members recusles. So when we were redistrict uh we all vote for a single council member and when a our council member is recused then our voices are silenced for their district. Please don't patronize me like last time when you said don't worry the rest of the council will speak for you because it's not necessarily true. So, I've done a little research and ironically I had no idea you were going to speak about anything about recusal, alle council member Darly, but um there is the Fair Political Practices Commission that says not all conflicts of interest present prevent a public official from lawfully taking part in a government decision. There are two exceptions to that conflict. So like when um council member Kater Thompson had to recuse herself from Reineer uh and uh other council members have had to recuse it says the public generally ac exception states a public official is not disqualified from a decision if the effect on the official's interest is indistinguishable from the effect on the public. So I ask that you do take a look at it because I it applies to all of you. I don't think anybody's district should be silenced. I think when we were redistrict, we asked you to speak on behalf of us. So, uh, please take a look at it and please stop recusing. Thank you.

Thank you, Darren Racusen to be followed by Jody Johnson.

Thank you, staff and council. I'm actually here to give a quick update regarding two items I've spoken about before at past meetings. This is actually regarding enterprise fleet management and the city of Pedaluma calard program. Uh happy to report that I did get documents back about both of those items from the city. You know, it was funny. I submitted kind of an informal, hey, can I get some details on enterprise and before I knew it, I had a P request, a public records act request. So maybe that's the most efficient way to do it, but if there's a quicker back and forth, I love that too because it kind of led to more questions. Uh I'd say on enterprise some interesting facts we have about 250 vehicles in service looks like 150 under the fleet of or under the purview of enterprise fleet management including like most of our police interceptors are leased and it some interesting things there that I have to go through. Uh on the cow card side there is 1,900 pages of cow card charges to review. So parsing my way through that in some way that's semicient. Uh so yeah h really appreciate getting the information look forward to seeing if there's a quicker way to to go back and forth possibly. Uh and then on the other issue that got raised on the dis about this lean I was kind of shocked to hear we don't already have a lean in process having read the public record you know whenever someone an applicant is batting back and and intimating they might not pay a bill especially $750,000 bill I would think the first thing we do is file a lean because it doesn't hurt them. It just says, "Look, if you get your entitlement to HCPC and then want to sell the property, we're in this thing to get paid." So, thank you.

Thank you, Jody Johnson. To be followed by Tim Portius.

Good evening, Mayor, City Council staff. Our mobile park residents in Littlewoods, Youngstown, and Capri bring to your attention once again that our large investment group park owners continue to abuse, retaliate, and openly challenge laws, zoning, and ordinances that are in full effect. In Youngstown, as senior citizen residents watched in court, park owners and their management openly defied the senior park overlay in full effect since October 2023. Park owners state they can't possibly run the park as a senior community, even though the park has run as a senior community since 1989. Residents were age verified, signs stated senior park, and rules and regulations were senior park rules and regulations. Now, they try to persuade a court of law that they just found out in 2023, ironically, just right after the city passed 17 revisions to the rent stabilization ordinance, that they had been discriminating against young families. The senior park overlay includes HOPA, the Housing for Older Persons Act, which shows in every city and county that senior communities can be defined to protect senior communities. This is certainly not discrimination. These false narratives being used to retaliate against senior citizens are as egregious as the rest of the weaponization about every law, ordinance, and zoning that these bad actor owners defy. More importantly, while anyone litigates an issue they believe to be unjust, you just can't simply break the law. Fraudulently telling park owners.

Thank you. Tim Port is to be followed by Jennifer Bole. fraudulently tell potential buyers the park is anything but a senior park or remove signs, hand out false rules and regulations and even more. There is no order from a court allowing these violations of an existing senior park overlay. Our bad actor park owners have and continue to do just that without any legal ruling telling them they can operate against a city ordinance or a city zoning. Imagine if our residents went against any MRL law, any rule or regulation that they don't like. We would be evicted. This this speaks to the imbalance of justice for residents without wealth. Capri and little ones are now attacked by this preposterous demand of harmony to home of home insurance and the demand to include harmony as added insurer on the resident's own mobile home. While any resident weighs home insurance if they can afford it. This is the residentowned mobile home. What goes between a mortgage company and a resident is between them. Oh boy. Jeez, we don't see residents demanding that park owners add residents to their land insurance. The threat of a 7-day notice for not getting home insurance from a landowner is another retaliation that unfortunately is being presented by the same bad actor investment group throughout the state.

Thank you, Jennifer Bole to be followed by Wayne Clark. Thank you. Good evening. This is privilege and power over people. Our community should be appalled at how a mobile park resident buying and living within their means in unsubsidized mobile homes are being treated by greed and gouging by these large new breed investment park owners. Mobile home park residents are not asking for any handouts. They are standing up to courts of laws in arbitrations against this kind of power. Residents are not only standing up, but the facts prevail before a multitude of judges and arbitrators. Park owners taking away parking, weaponizing closure processes, and breaking unlawful ordinances and lawful zoning is a world these residents wake up to. For the last three years, there is an imbalance of money between an investment group park owner and a mobile park resident, but residents are equal when facts prevail. The city of Paluma is courageous, but notably they are not cap capitulating to wealth over facts and decency. Our city values all its our city values all its residents and we are proud of their efforts to stand up for the most vulnerable. Paluma Mobile Residents United.

Thank you very much. Wayne Clark to be followed by Chantel Rogers. And I I do have to note Wayne, we're going to try to have some connection to council jurisdiction, some subject matter of city of Paluma in your comments.

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Uh ICE enforcement policies. I sat in recently a special study session by Santa Rosa City Council regarding community safety concerns relates to ICE federal enforcement. Pedaluma City Council has addressed many of these issues. As of early 2025, Pedaluma has reaffirmed its commitment to supporting immigrant communities by adhering to state laws, specifically focusing on non-ooperation with federal immigration. Adopt ICE free zones on city property. Require valid judicial warrants, not administrative warrants. L city data sharing like license plate readers for federal immigration abortion. Reaffirm SB54, the California values act, which restricts local police from asking about immigration status. Detaining individuals on federal hold assisting with civil immigration investigation. Support the rapid response network. Know your rights workshops and distribute these red cards. like Santa Rosa. Let's urge Congress for better agent training and understanding, local and state sanctuary policies, which is always a hot topic, track and report any interactions with ICE agents, establish safe havens like schools, churches, and hospitals. Thank you.

Thank you very much, Chantel Rogers to be followed by Tom Gaffy. Good evening. Um, so I went to the MeasureU oversight committee meeting this week. I was surprised to find out that the budgeted Measure U fiscal year 2526 expenditures calls for 94% of MeasureU tax revenue to be spent on essential city services and operations to the tune of about $14.7 million. just 6% a little over a million dollars is set aside for not only road repair but also other infrastructure investment as well as Lucasey turf replacement the sidewalk program transit support and technology members of the committee asked a lot of questions about where the money was for road repair a major voter expectation it was explained that between city operations and Calber's pension debt catchup expenses expenses which have been known to the city since 2017 and which will be increasing for several more years before coming back down. There's little money left and won't be any extra until 2031. The committee last year put in the recommendation to the city that 25% of Measure U tax income be set aside for road repair, but as one committee member said, that fell on deaf ears. With the $20 million of bond money for road improvements spent or committed and no additional measure U funds forthcoming until at least 2031, it doesn't seem that there will be much funding available for fixing our streets. If you haven't already, I hope you'll take the time to watch the meeting. It may help inform your perspective when considering the upcoming budget discussion. Thank you.

Thank you, Tom Gaffy to be followed by Nicholas Harris. Thank you, Mayor and Council. Uh, I just want to come up and give a brief uh, word of support to Alex Darly and Karen now in their desire to bring before you discussing a lean uh, against the EKN property and in the two to the tune of $765,000. This would not kill the project in any way. This would justly assure us that we would at least have some remedy to get some of that money back. should they default or have any problems, we'll at least be able to look at that property and and uh go after that money. It's it's a lot of money for us. So, please give that some consideration. Alex, don't back down. Karen, thank you very much.

Thank you very much. Uh Nicholas Harris.

Hey, good evening, Mayor and Council members. I quickly want to follow Mr. uh Dver's lead and give a shout out to the water utilities team. They were in my neighborhood twice. First the day after Christmas and about 10 days later uh fixing water main leaks. Um they did an amazing job. Uh they came back uh over the period of time and uh replaced the water services and um their conduct and work was just outstanding. I want to um pivot to uh capital projects and scope creep. Um I know mayor and many of you uh share my concern uh with uh capital project throughput and uh I'd like um if possible if uh um Mr. Tribs's uh ask to look at the cost of a uh Cfield bridge that would remove a navigable waterway designation to the river. I just have a quick straw poll and get a pulse check from the council to see if that's really something that you want to task uh the team to spend time and resources uh looking at. Thank you. [snorts]

Thank you very much. And uh that was our last speaker. That closes general public comment. I want to uh thank our Cfield Bridge presentation team for um staying with us uh for that. And then I'd like to um bring it on up to council. And tonight I'll u be starting from the right hand side of the DAS and council member Barnacle. I have nothing. Okkey dokie. And uh council member Kada Thompson.

Okay. Um I'll start off with that. I I liked um Gary's comment tonight. I think the majority of people in Paluma are really happy what's going on in Paluma and but we hear the gaslighting all the time. So, thank you for coming and I he's gone but I really appreciated that. Um I'm just going to quick talk briefly on the the money for EKN. I was quite aware of what been going on. I'm not living you know underground and I know that that money will be coming to the city of Paluma and this is being brought forward because many people don't want any development in this area which is extremely blighted and not bringing in any dollars into this city. So this is another form of gaslighting just so people get angry with the city council but I think Gary was right the majority are really bypassing this and realizing what it is. Um I attended the pedal of police um the police awards ceremony with my husband Jerry and it was really a beautiful ceremony and recently going back to saving people's lives Jayce Hansen a police officer saved the life of local resident he was the first on the scene he performed CPR and continued doing CPR even when the paramedics were on the scene um that is a team and this person lived and a lot of times people just don't live a friend of mine three days before Christmas had um a heart attack. Um her husband couldn't find the cell phone. He had to do CPR and she did pass away. And it's it's really sad. And so this goes into landlines and what I'm also hearing from our senior residents the concern of landlines for safety. The Kavanaaugh pool. Um I've seen some photos of the pool. People are really happy. And I'll I know that I sent a email to our city manager and to Drew about a few things that are being requested and there's a few more things that I'll be sending you, but I really appreciate um working with people to

make sure they're getting their needs met and understanding how the process works. Um SCTA um Sonoma County Transportation Climate Action meeting um got some good news on the Corona overcrossing. Um there's going to be um a design phase going to have a separate bike and pedestrian from the roadway. Um which is really exciting because it's extremely dangerous and with the smart station there this needs to be done. So that's moving forward. Hopefully in 20 2020 2027 we'll be talking with Calrans to start actually funding um that project and getting it done um sooner than later. um smart um I'm on the smart board of directors. The writership is up 25% from the last month to from the year before and the trail usage is up 13%. Um as far as we'll be talking about the NBS um at our next meeting and I have had a lot of conversations with our city manager about this for a long time. So our heads are not in the sand. We know what's going on and a lot more is coming out and there will be changes. Um, I attended the Democratic convention as a voting delegate in San Francisco this last weekend. And I want to thank Mayor Lori for really cleaning up San Francisco and it was a great weekend and he has turned out to be a great mayor and there was a lot of negativity about him becoming the mayor and people I talked to said we didn't vote for him and we are so happy with him. So that was great news. And then uh I just want to say happy birthday to my daughter who's 41 today. And um she is going to school. She's going to be applying for nursing school next year. So it's never too late to really make changes um for people's lives. Thank you and happy birthday. Liv,

thank you. Um Vice Mayor,

thank you and good evening everybody. I have three updates for this evening. uh for the airport commission. Uh the biggest thing we talked about that evening is we'll be looking for a new airport manager. Um ours is leaving and going on to new things. So, we're wishing him well. But in the meantime, if you're looking for a job and you have the qualifications, we're looking. Um then we're also looking, we've been looking at this for a while, but it came back up. Um the airport's considering expanding their hanger operation and using some more space that they own. And so they've been considering different designs and what the impact of that would be and and what potential um tenants would look like for those hangers. At the Sonoma County Mayor and Council Association meeting, uh we did hear a presentation from a nonprofit called the Individual and Family Support Network. They um there's a few things that they're looking to do in our county. They want to um help two age groups. Uh you know, the advanced elderly between 70 and 90 years old. and they'd also like to help transitional youth. They are looking to uh do things like disaster preparedness, um looking for grant money for for food during those times and for helping people that can't cook for themselves. Um improving evacuation routes and shelters for some of the stuff they've we've all seen in recent years and encouraging us to build disaster resistant structures out of concrete. Um, the SCF SCMCA will also be working closer with the county this year to work on broader issues that affect all of us at parks and wreck. Um, you know, the biggest thing was that the Kavanaaugh pool is now reopened. I went last Wednesday to go say hi to everybody. They were very happy to be back in the pool and excited um and seeing their friends again. And so, you know, they're again, they're very happy. um they do have some things they'd like to work on and I know staff's been working really hard with them to try to meet those accommodations and so you know now going forward I'm sure staff will continue to

do that in good faith and and keep the peeps happy. Thank you. Thank you uh council member now.

Um thank you Mr. Mayor. Um as we close out the last week of February, it's hard to believe how quickly 2026 is already moving forward. I had the opportunity to visit several local schools um this month and speaking with the high school students about the responsibilities of serving on the city council. And it was especially um meaningful because I encouraged them to apply to volunteer for our 250th um nations birthday celebration in Paluma. It'll be called Pedaluma Youth 250 and it offers local youth a chance to be directly involved in the historic milestone. Um interested students can email me or reach out to the Pedal Historical Museum for more information. This effort is um particularly close to my heart because 50 years ago I served as the youth representative helping Pedal Lima celebrate the nation's bicesentennial in 1976 and I was honored to serve on the city's committee at that time and it's now inspiring to know and encourage new generation to step forward and serve. Um, at Happy Art Preschool, students continued their beautiful tradition of making Valentine's for the senior cafe meals on wheels recipients. I was delighted once again to read stories, sing songs, provide craft projects and supplies for the children as he created these heartful cards. Before Valentine's Day, I delivered their thoughtful creations to the PedalM Senior Center, spreading smiles across generations. Alongside members of the Pedelma Chamber of Commerce, I participated in a ribbon cutting for a new business in the Plaza South Shopping Center. My chamber leadership class also completed its final dedication and placed a plaque on a public art statue at the Miracle League Field. It's a

wonderful example example of community collaboration and civic pride. I'm sorry I'm rushing. I also attended the mayor and council members dinner with um the vice mayor Durley and council members Kater Thompson and Shribs. Um thank you vice mayor for saving me five minutes here. In addition, I met with cool pedaluma to discuss progress on my neighborhood block with my code team leader and to meet with two Americanore members currently supporting their efforts. More information will soon be available regarding neighborhood response groups and neighborhood messaging boards. Stay tuned and look for these with a QR code to find out more about Cool Paluma and they're also in front of my house in my little library. Also, I finally I attended a homeless and housing collaboration meeting with the county of Sonoma regional leadership and the homeless coalition. This work group continues to foster strong partnerships along cities, counties, and service providers while promoting shared responsibility and coordinated actions on the homeless. I was still pleased to see on the agenda tonight regarding a letter to the League of California Cities which aligns with our discussion. We also are reaching out to our elected state officials to provide data trends, evidence-based practices, our shared goals including coordinating governance funding structures to strengthen homelessness response models. aligning funding streams to maximize impact, reducing duplication of service administration burdens by leveraging shared resources, infrastructure to improve efficiency. Together, through collaboration and commitment, we continue working towards meaningful solutions for our community and our unhoused population. Um, I'm glad to see that the North Bay Animal Shelter will be on the agenda for our next meeting. I would also like um city

staff to update council and the public on the key the EKN monies that are owed. Um we've had other businesses owe us money and we have leaned their property. So I look forward to those discussions and updates. Thank you.

Thank you, Council Member Quint. Uh thank you, Mayor. Uh at the February 4th PAC meeting, we participated in a hearing to review a draft RFP for a citywide wayfinding program. Uh that's an effort that's being funded by a grant from MTC and I can tell you that everybody in that sort of arena is very excited about that and so we appreciate uh Vjorn's work in bringing that forward. At the February 17 TAC meeting, we reviewed and provided input on the alternative transit service reduction options. Pedaluma Transit is currently facing a material funding shortfall over the next three years. A note, the tenative agenda currently has the transit service planning workshop scheduled for the April 6th uh council meeting. That workshop will be a critical step as we navigate as we navigate through this issue. Uh February 7th, I was proud to represent Paluma at the Sonoma County Veterans Hall for heroes for the Hall of Heroes induction ceremony. I appreciated that opportunity. Uh and on the 14th, I participated in the Pedaluma Little League District 35 umpire training clinic. and uh so I'm excited about that. Thank you.

Thank you, Council Member Shrebs.

Thank you. Um for the events or activities to report, um I did go to the U mayors and council members meeting. Um and the one thing that my take away from that is that there was a long discussion about ICE and events and how we're going to work together. and the county is actually taking a lead role in this using the emergency services uh department folks along with all and every city chimed in. Um it's going to be a very coordinated effort. Whatever happens, we're going to be working together. Um and so there's a very strong movement here within the county, not just our city and the county. Uh we're all going to be working together on on this issue. So just so everyone knows that that that is happening. Um I also attended the uh the blacks for uh pedal blacks for community development. They have the exhibit at the museum on the black history. Uh so everyone go head on down and a lot of history of of what's happened here, what they've done, um who was involved and how it has evolved. So it's still it'll be up there for I guess another month everything. So get a chance to get down there and take a look at it. Um the following exhibit is going to be on tidal wetlands and I am on the team that's helping develop that. Um so that's coming up in in um in April. So anyway, so look forward to that. The um I attended a webinar um that was given by a financial expert working on affordable housing and um they're saying most of what we're doing is is really good except the what we're missing is the missing middle and the missing middle is a little bit smaller housing and housing units. Um folks are converting their ADUs. Those are small operations doing development, but the big block big box that apartment buildings or multiplexes that are being built tend to be built by corporations um and with a lot of extra funding that's involved. And then what's missing is what's in the middle, the um the

duplexes, triplexes, quadruplexes, sixplexes that need not the corporate world, but actually need local developers and also local monies. So, we need to be talking to our local banks like Exchange Bank and Redwood to see if they can help support our middle, little bit larger, younger construction folks to maybe get more development from them in looking at smaller um achievable property changes. So, instead of a single house, so single house would go away, forplex, quadruplex would go in of some sort. Um and that's the missing middle that that we really need to work on as a city. uh because otherwise on our current plan we have lots of options for corporations to come in and we have lots of options for ADUs for individual small little operations and um to do work in individual homes but that missing middle is something that I think we need to be working on. So anyway that was a long nice discussion I had there opened my mind up a little bit to possibilities of um coordinating and helping that happen. Then uh the fourth one was I went uh P Gen has a um a technology center as well as a hazard center down in San Ramon. So I got a a half a day uh tour of uh the two operations down there and it's pretty amazing their uh the technology that they're working on uh for doing overhead cables, underground cables, working on that high and low voltages and the research that they've done. I actually saw demonstrations down there. Um and they're really working hard on EV charging birectional charging as if they can be done. It's very difficult what they're dealing with especially when you're combining a solar unit with a battery unit with a car all in one house and yet other house doesn't and then how much energy is being used how much is being brought back in. It's extremely complex and very difficult to work with. So that was one thing we saw out there and um and then the hazard system. Uh I looked up there and walked into a room,

a very large room about this size and there was about 20 to 25 computer with big monitors in huge monitors as big as these things up here all around the place. and they are watching uh using AI tools to watch the hazards for for their not only their assets, but they deliver all their information also to all of the emergency crews on on all levels throughout the entire Northern California, two-thirds of California. So, they're actually monitoring all the hazards doing that. I was very impressed with their operations and and their improvements of what they've done over the last 10 years of how to go from six people to 20 people on their site just looking at how to save lives and u um and uh make more efficient um outcomes from uh if there are fires or down lines or anything like that and the support that they're giving to all the emergencies. So I just want to give a shout out to PG what I saw they are working really hard on these issues. Um, so that's my report for today.

Wonderful. Thank you. I appreciate your comments about the missing middle section of housing. I think it couldn't be more topical now that we're rushing our general plan and theoretically government's job is to have good permitting rules and good guidance and states given us a lot of strong language that's uh, but it's all going into our general plan. Tough to move the economy, but we have to be our part perfect. So, appreciate you bringing that up. Um, from my committees and commissions, the um I sat on the uh measure O mental health oversight uh committee for the county and um you know with all the funding reductions that are coming from state and from um and from the feds for mental health and for homelessness. It's really good that we have a local source of funding this measure O and um so from the Measure O U monies they uh put out a call for uh funding and and they had $12.5 million $36 million worth of requests of course come in but of the 10 uh Paluma got about $850,000 uh directly for some of our projects directly and then uh CS uh works predominantly here pulled in nearly a million of that. So, you know, of a countywide $12 million pulling two of it into Palumas. Once again, our applications bat above their weight class. So, it's good that we have the staff that puts it together. Also wanted to compliment staff on getting uh the animal services uh issue right to the council next week. Uh you know, um it's horrible and and it needs to be addressed right away. Uh and and then uh I I love the PR I saw on the reopening for Kavanagh Pro pool because you know that had got us uh um sideways with public's desires and we told them what we were going to do and then we told them when it was going to be done and then we opened the doors just like

we said. So kudos to staff for uh getting that all delivered. Um and then with that I'll pass it to um our city manager for her her report.

Thank you mayor uh council and community. Uh join us this Thursday uh from 6:00 to 8 at the Paluma Community Center for Coffile Coughfield Eli safety and pavement upgrades. That is a mouthful. Um in our commitment to create safer streets for all, the city of Paluma is planning safety and mobility upgrades on Coughfield Lane um from Payan to Garfield and Eli Boulevard South from East Washington Street to freights. Um we will have a meeting to learn um to share the proposed improvements um for the community to ask questions and share what you want to see on these um key neighborhood corridors. Some of the work that's going to be um is proposed is pavement reconstruction um intersection enhancements, new and improved crosswalks, protected and buffered bike lanes. So again, it's this Thursday from 6:00 to 8 at the Pedaluma Community Center. And if you want to receive project updates, just go to the website and look up Caulfield Eli. And that'll be it for tonight. Thank you, Mayor.

Well, thank you very much. Uh that brings us to our consent calendar for the evening. And uh at this point, I look up and down the uh DAS to see if anyone wants to specifically um have a different discussion on any of the items. And not seeing any, then we'll treat the whole of the consent calendar as one. But I'll open it up for an opportunity for any questions on any of this before we move it to public comment. Vice Mayor,

um I had one question on item six and um that's that's the letter of support for AB708. Um I was just curious if we know what uh local nonprofits do we anticipate will be able to benefit from that legislation. Um you know, as well as how they'd uh be able to apply that money to help people in our community. and we have staff stepping up to the microphone to help us with this. Good evening, mayor and council members. I helped prepare that staff report um but I don't I'm not the one that's most skilled in the housing department. I think we have a bunch of folks out on that. Um I would expect that we'd have CS.

May May I ask a different kind of question? Um, so the ordinance or the proposed law is about taking the money that currently goes to the nonprofits and bringing the cities in as higher eligibility. So we could get the money, not the nonprofits who currently get the money. And um, so um, no doubt we would then turn around and give it to those nonprofits, but we would have some guard rails on what we wanted. So, I I think the the nonprofits that currently get we can name a few in our community. Um, but what this is about is seeing if the city can get the money directly.

No, and that's fine. And I'm I'm just curious how it will all work. Yes. [snorts] Um, anyone other questions on the consent calendar? Um, not seeing any questions. Let's take it to public um comments. Well, is Patrick can answer the question or I'm thinking that is the that is the um that was the answer is that the the nonprofits um are there's no new nonprofit eligibility in this. This is kind of a reduction to nonprofits. Do you want to know who might be reduced? Is that

No, not necessarily. just again to see you know which ones we may be supporting through this and how that's going to end up benefiting the community in the end in in our region Cox is the dominant player for all this particular type of money and is there another name you I mean as we go to the county and and right now with um the money is distributed at this continuum of care board through an applications similar to the thing I was talking about earlier with measure O money and um it is not guaranteed that money come to any city it it um it gets distributed based on the merits of a project. Mhm.

So we, you know, we don't necessarily get a pedalum a share.

I can add to that, mayor. Um, so historically, uh, CS is, you're correct, that's sort of the primary shelter provider. Um, other uh, entities I'm thinking about PPSC rebuilding together, um, as others. Um and it really depends on we just went through this the county just awarded for this um funding a availability but it depends on the need. So as the need changes as the different funds fluctuate uh we'll continue to work uh together with our um housing and homeless service providers to ensure that um the priority is given to um the projects and the people that are in most need. But PPSC would be um you know the two at the top of that list.

Right. Thank you, Brian. [snorts] Okay. Um public comment, please.

We didn't receive any comments ahead of time on uh the the consent calendar, but at this moment, I will start a 30 second clock. Uh so during these 30 seconds, members of the public wishing to speak should bring their speaker cards to my desk if they have not already done so. Speaker cards received after this time may not be accommodated. Um, we have three uh comment cards for tonight. So, we'll set the clock at three minutes. And our first uh speaker will be uh Nicholas Harris to be followed by Chantel Rogers. Good evening, mayor and council members. Um, here to speak uh on the request to agendaize a discussion about the lean. It's um really what's not on the agenda. And I want to start off. Gaslighting is a form of persistent psychological manipulation designed to make victims question their own reality, memories, or sanity. I love your smile. It's wonderful. often to gain control. It involve tactics like denying events happen, trivializing feelings, and blatant lying.

Yeah, you're gaslighting Janice. You're the only one here doing it. Facts. Mr. Mayor, can we have some decor? Excuse me, please. This is my time. Actually, let's No, actually, it has to be in line or so. Let's uh carry on in the quorum. Facts. Also, excuse me. Is this on This is common on the consent calendar, is it not? Um, right now we're on the tenative uh the um consent calendar items and um please correlate anything you wish to say to this item that we're speaking to the consent calendar. Yes, I'm speaking about the consent calendar and the tenative agenda and the item that was requested to be on there that is not

EKN stated they don't have funds to pay the debt. EKN is investor funded. They have a poor track record. It's a controversial project. Without a lean, EKN could sell the lot and shirt the debt. The development agreement is between Pedaluma and EKN Pedaluma LLC. And so is the title of the property. If they sell the property before a lean is perfected and filed, how is the city going to recover that money? Our money. Thank you.

Thank you. Our next speaker is Chantel Rogers to be followed by Darren Rakasen. [clears throat]

Hi. Item five. This is from the city of Paluma's proposed fairgrounds free speech activity guidelines which is a 29page document deal detailing the restrictions the city intends to solidify concerning the free speech and right to an assemble and demonstrate of every pedaluman. Quote the city recognizes that during times when the pedaluma fair is not in session certain areas of the fairground may be accessible to the public for recreational use and resemble the character of a public park. However, these areas are not dedicated public parks within the meaning of traditional public forum doctrine. Rather, they remain part of the multi-use event oriented venue subject to operational needs, maintenance, and permitted uses. Temporary recreational access accessibility does not remove the city's ability to impose reasonable time, place, and manner restrictions or other reasonable viewpoint neutral regulations consistent with the intended use of property consistent with the fairgrounds overarching status as an event focused venue. Wow, I thought we acquired the fairgrounds to maintain access to all as a public park. I guess I got that part wrong. Quote, "S City finds that the fire grounds are operated primarily as an event oriented venue and are not generally held open as traditional public forum. It's the policy of the city nevertheless to allow free speech activity wherever said activity is not inconsistent with the normal operations or activities of the city." Nice. City finds, however, that due to the unique nature of the fairgrounds, there is limited access nec necessitating creation of free expression zones. By establishing designated free expression zones, the city seeks to ensure that those engaging in free speech activities may do so without unduly interfering with others while maintaining public order and safety. The guidelines go on to detail a dizzying array of

restrictions and requirements in order to express your freedom of speech, including where you can, when you can, and such micromanagement as to how many and what type of tables you can set up and a registration form that you should fill out to reserve your place in the free expression zone. In this day and age when all we have left is our right to free expression, I find it inconceivable that the city would put out such a severe and draconian document to hem in our first amendment right. Did you all read all 29 pages? I hope you do so before you vote for this. Thank you. Thank you. Darren Racusen is our last speaker.

Thank you. And I'll be brief. I I have to say unlike the prior speaker, I did not read all 29 pages. But whenever I see in this day and age guidelines about free speech from any government, local municipal government all the way up, your hackles get raised and you get concerned. You know, what are we talking about? Uh and I, you know, the fairgrounds is also going to be subject to and it may already have existing surveillance on the site and with the new public safety facility, there will be cameras facing out that way. So you start to get the impression that the fairgrounds like has free speech rules, cameras on you. We don't want this to become like a ponopticon. We want this to be a nice open park. So I I I wonder if you know maybe staff or someone can characterize how these rules are planned to be implemented. Is this like merely protection against DXE? Is this have some grounding? Or again, this may all be framed in the report, but I think it's worth speaking to because it is a pretty big uh pretty big implications with that document. Uh, and I also want to flag for any members of the public. Uh, I really appreciate there being the mid-year budget update on the next uh, tenative agenda. I think a lot of us are really keying into like where money is spent is policy and is our signal of values as a city. So, we want to really pay attention to that and start learning more about it. I know I'm on that journey of learning more about how that process works. So, um, the next meeting the first week of March will be a big mid-year budget update that is going to be well worth anyone's time. Uh, and then finally, I just want to echo, you know, I don't know if I have as much passion around the lean issue other than in working in and around a lot of construction industries. It's really standard when you get an agreement signed for like $10,000 to build a deck. There are whole companies that will automatically file a lean against that property right when the contract is signed. It in no way prevents that developer from moving forward with their project. It is not some kind of indictment. I I don't think EAN would

take it personally and think the city is trying to penalize them in any way. It is merely a filing that puts it on record that we are in line alongside likely other creditors so that if something does go sideways, our investment in this process and this property is protected and the people's money is protected as we've kind of gone through this process. And I would say again, this would be pretty standard practice. If it's not, maybe, you know, that's something I've just never been privy to with a project before. But again, you read some of these emails where the developer is saying, I think it was Mike on their team saying, "Look, we don't agree we need to pay this money." It's like, we got to start doing something to defend ourselves if we really think we have we have a claim. And again, it in no way inhibits the developer from developing their property, moving forward with whatever style of hotel that they're about to to go through the discretionary process on. Just kind of a prudent measure. So, it would be great to see that agendaized and talked about even if it's just to get an understanding of this issue and frame it and contextualize it from clearly people in the public who are interested. So, thank you.

Thank you. Um I think um public comment brought up uh provocative points about the fair guide free speech and I'd like to see who from staff would like to um try and synthesize what our objective and how the function goes. Turn it over to you Mr. Danley.

Uh thank you Mr. Mayor. Um and thanks for the questions from the public. Um the so it it sounds like it is not um necessarily obvious from the quite detailed policy, but its purpose is actually to protect free speech rights of attendees um at the fairgrounds, but and also to preserve to balance considerations consistent with um the free speech rights guaranteed under the US Constitution and the liberty of speech clause and the California Constitution. for um members of the public attending fairgrounds events while also um preserving the city's ability to um control when public forums for speech are created and also to preserve the city's abil ability to ga engage in what is called government speech. Um examples of which are the city's um special flag flying flag flying policy. Apparently that's a tongue twister for me. Um, also our creative cross crosswalk policy. Examples of which were are the the the um the creative crosswalk um the rainbow crosswalk on Kentucky and our Black Lives Matter mural in front of the fairgrounds. Those were government speech exercises in accordance with um the council's policies for that that in fact I know um have been models for other cities to adopt. Um, so we did get some expressions of concern from some attendees at the last fair um about being um confronted by messages that they didn't want to have to be confronted at by at the fair. And so one of the things that the free speech zones does um in accordance with it's actually the the state law um the liberty of speech clause under the California

constitution and it's called the prunyard line of cases that provide for even in commercial spaces free speech zones. You see them in airports for example sometimes you see them at places like Home Depot. Um so what we're really trying to do is provide guidance for staff, guidance for members of the public to ensure that all those um rights of expressive activity are preserved. Um that we are able the staff is able to u follow the council's direction and provide for a continuing increasing um programming and public access for all kinds of different activities and events at the fairgrounds. and that we do that consistent with with um with free speech rights. So um that's that's really what that is intended to do. That those are kind of fact-specific situations that the policies are intended to address. Um I think you know we have reviewed them. We're careful about the prepare preparation of them. um that's their purpose and and to the extent they um they need clarification or updates as our fairground uses continue, we'll be glad to provide those and to answer questions of the public or staff about them.

And I'll just add too, mayor, real quick, this is common for any fairgrounds. Just checking the website today of every fairgrounds that I could locally, they all have similar uh guidelines. This guideline was based off the states that was upheld recently a couple years ago. So it is right in line with what the other states and fairgrounds are doing in the state. Thank you. Council, did you have a comment to make on this one? I was He just answered it. I was going to ask, does this put us on the fringe or does it sort of bring us into the fold? And it sounds like it's just bringing us into the fold on what's what's normal. And I suspect that we didn't have this sooner because we really haven't had the fairgrounds under our control sooner. Right.

Correct. And it was due to those complaints that we received last year about the organizations that were allowed in. And this will allow the city better control of allowing who we speak or who's the organizations that will speak for us within the fairgrounds. Okay. Council member Shribs.

Um yes. and and I did read all 29 pages and I did ask questions uh which got answered um of similar nature as what we heard here. Um so and I asked for a little bit more specific examples which I I did get a fair amount of examples in the response. So that that's available I believe online to take a look there but um I was still looking for a little bit more um it says I would like to see the actual workings of what actual concrete examples um rather than theoretical type things. Um and so here's here's an example that I' I'd like to make sure get answered uh because we have a um it is an open gate in the front. You can walk in. We have open fields and there's event centers in in a lot of buildings and event areas where people have their event. We want to make sure we protect that so that those are not disrupted inappropriately. But we still have some public areas that are just open ground and only used when the fairgrounds uh fair is here. So on those open grounds, which is sort of like our our public park area potentially, um can people come in and gather and maybe while they're gathering, uh because we have folks going on the the Washington Bridge now, we have folks downtown, could they gather in on that bare ground grassy area right in the front of the fairgrounds because it looks like from this they can't or or we would actually go in there and remove them under the language that that I'm interpreting. So what is that? So give me some more concrete examples of what would be allowed, what can happen um on in the public areas of the fairgrounds. Sure.

Before we step in and say, "Oh, you're against the rules here." Yeah. So within the fairgrounds, those areas during the fair or other events, there is a spot for the free expression and that's outside and that's to not interfere with the other patrons and just emergency services. Uh so that's that question I think. No, I'm talking about when there's no activity there right now. Someone who went there right now and and and went there decided to protest Trump right now as some folks are doing around town. Could they enter the fairgrounds and do it right there in the open spot in the fairgrounds?

So, I'd like to add um that um Dylan's obviously correct in what he said about the current um free speech zone identified in the policy. I anticipate that there will be others and there will vary depending on the event in terms of how they're configured because um the zones can't be some hinterland where no one has access um because that's kind of you know that's overly restrictive of expressive activity. But the other thing I want to mention and um confirm under the policy is that currently in terms of forum analysis for um expressive activity and exercise of fe free speech, the fairgrounds does not have the same status as a traditional public forum like say Walnut Park does or Lucesy Park does. Um it hasn't been established as that kind of a forum yet. There may be parts of the fairgrounds as a result of the master planning going forward that actually are designated like public parks like like the space where I'm losing my bearings. Is it there? That over there that's a public park where we have signage that gives the public information about some of these things. They have hours of operation because there's not overnighting permitted and things like that. So, so under um the US and California constitutions, form analysis applies and in those traditional public forms like public parks, like rights of way, like sidewalks, um where it can be done safely without risk for safety. Those are the zones where people can do things like pick it and soapbox and all that stuff. But, um the fairgrounds property is not designated as that yet. I suspect there will be some designations like that as a result of the master planning process. So, it's not um folks can can

get special event permits and they can coordinate with the police department on planned um demonstrations and our our police department. We're lucky that we have the police department that we do because of the way they engage with organizers um not to restrict that activity but to support it and make sure it's safe even include including how the the streets are crossed and things. So so safety is maintained. So um so so the short answer that's the explanation. The short answer is no. people can't just show up within go within the fairgrounds grounds within the gates and stage an event that's not a permitted event in in coordination with our with our parks department who's managing it um um currently the way in terms of the legal status that the fairgrounds has in relation to forum analysis and that is actually a very important thing to preserve the controls that the city has to um to not have a form inadvertently created um that are similar to the controls we have. For example, that allow us to put banners and murals on on our parking garages um or on our standards in in the city streets so that we're giving city messages and don't have to receive or permit what may be competing competing messages that the the city doesn't stand behind.

Good. Yeah. I was looking for some clarity. I think you've you've answered most of that. Um and so at this point then as as my concrete example is if a group of protesters um uh decide to march in and and actually get onto the lawn area then the expectation is uh we will call the police and they will be removed from internally from the fairgrounds and has to go to the free space free space outside or something like that as a concrete example. Is that the actual imple implementation of this policy? I I think what I would say is hopefully um we would have a chance for our police department and our office if necessary to work with them to redirect their expressive activity to a place where it's where it's permitted and safe. That's that's how we tried to engage and and we're we're also fortunate that our community members who you know there's a lot of um who are finding a lot of occasions to want to exercise their free speech rights of late. um and they are very helpfully reaching out to city staff and the police department about how to do that safely and and we're glad to support those efforts.

And I was just going to add to the council member Quinn's question about where this uh if this brings us in alignment. This policy actually provides a lot more flexibility than the states. There is like Eric said the working uh with the free speech uh the organizations to find a new place. There's appeals. It's really last case kind of scenario before we uh cite you for trespassing.

Okay. So, this just needs to be known. So, as we transition the fair grounds from what right now is an event controlled space to a public park space in sections that that that this would be part of that uh policy that's be implied in those designated areas. So, that's just for awareness sakes and what what this all means. So, I just want to be clear and more concrete about um all the language and the actual implementation of this policy. Uh thank you. Thank you. And if the council or members of the public have other questions, we'll be happy to address them.

Thank you very [clears throat] much and all that. Uh I wouldn't disagree with the description that uh this is a very legal uh legal written document rather than public friendly document. But I think it's it's exacting because for just that reason, right? To it's to guide staff. But you know, if if there's a desire for it, we can prepare an FAQ response, put on the website about, you know, to translate some of these things so people have a better understanding. Thanks. And uh Council Member Garly,

um I know you you've kind of answered it in chunks here and there, Eric, about this, but um I mean like what besides the zones, um are we not able to enforce anything right now as it is like regular laws? Um the way the police department works, the way they can remove people if need be or I mean besides the zones, what what are we gaining from this entire document? We we can, you know, the fairgrounds is city property. All city laws and and federal and state laws apply there. So we can control it just like any other city property. Um so we we have full control. What this policy does is is um demonstrates and supports our compliance our full compliance with the public's um expressive activity rights while preserving our rights to you know maintain the peace maintain public safety all those things run our events um successfully all that

and I'll just add to that too I think the two main things that this really benefits the city is one it's a city curated programming so the government speech within the city fairgrounds during events is now we can select the organizations we'll invite those that are speaking for the city where previously we didn't have that and we had to allow uh any organization to come in. Uh so the second one is it allows us to create create reasonable time place manner restrictions in those free speech zones and in the city programming. So one of the the uh restrictions regular time place manner restriction is hey if a patron walks by you can't follow them and try to you know harass them and say sign my petition or whatever. Uh so it kind of sets a reasonable time place manners kind of on what the uh allowed speech is during those free speech zones.

So we would actually be inviting groups in uh for the city program curated showcase. Yes. those that are in alignment with the theme of whatever the event is. Okay. And then um you know again this was something you sort of answered already but um I mean is this going to become a standard practice at all city properties and facilities? We haven't discussed that. I think this will be sort of a guinea pig to see. I don't know if there's too many properties out there that are special and unique like the city fairgrounds. Um, does this apply inside and outside of a building like the Lucesy Community Center that this is only within the fairgrounds?

But, but I mean, um, the way we treat this is like we wouldn't let harassment follow someone into a building, but on the street side at Luces, that's that's Yeah.

Yeah. I I just wanted to echo and maybe just listening into the conversation, um, just clarify. I think the point I really wanted to highlight and from the experiences from last year's fair is there were specific organizations that we couldn't preclude that were present during the event that were um approaching families and individuals displaying materials that were inconsistent with the values and the objectives of a city uh fair. That is, I think, what we as a city wanted to have as part of our goals and our our um our our vision for the city fair. Uh there were materials, there were visuals, there was really graphic materials. Uh it was in an area that was highly visible, highly trafficked, and there was nothing in place that we could preclude that event and that organization from being um not present. And so really my staff, my team was asked to uh limit the exposure of that group to other community members to ask them to not engage with community members which we could not limit them from doing. We could not ask them to leave. We could not ask them to stop and we could not uninvite them. Um the city had no recourse to limit them, exclude them or discourage them from doing any of those activities. And so this is really intended to allow for the city to have discretion opportunities to determine whom can be present during these events. And if they are not appropriate for being in the permitted event, there is an appropriate venue where they can be designated to still afford their opportunity for free speech in those designated spaces. I think that we also uh park director uh Drew Halter and I are working currently on a an event a free speech assembly and one of the things is we have other permitted

events that are often in in public spaces that individuals that are going to have a public demonstration don't often check whether there's another conflicting permitted event on the calendar. And so if you might have a permanent event that you've reserved that space, you would be very unhappy to find out that someone just comes in with 500 people and disrupts your permitted event that you're sanctioned for, you've paid for, you have insurance for, and now you are impacted by. And so we want to make sure that we are deconlicting those things, and that we are also affording to and redirecting those individuals to an appropriate place and affording them their constitutional right to have that free speech. So, we're just trying to put those parameters in um and still affording everyone their their right to properly demonstrate their free speech. So, hopefully that can provide a little bit more context, but we're not trying to limit anyone's right to continue their free speech. We're just trying to put it into the appropriate places and allow it to continue uh lawfully and reasonably.

Thank you, Chief. Yeah, mayor for your question about Lucasy or No, I'm willing to take that one back. I was starting to draw a metaphor and analogy and uh that sometimes goes sideways. So, uh Council Member Barnacle.

Yeah. Um I understand how it can be uh unsettling to see any sort of limitation on free speech. Um, I'll say uh my niece and nephew uh show livestock at the fair and I don't want them to be presented, you know, when they're showing their chickens with a bunch of dead chickens as if they're um creating that. Um uh there's um the Jewish community has their their youth camp there. I don't want Nazis protesting right outside the Jewish camp. Um we have the pride show there. Um they have their event. I don't want people sitting there right outside their event with signs to say um these people are pedophiles and they're mentally ill. So, um I think it's worth uh like and everybody probably has their thing, but um if that's if that's the the sort of free speech that we want to tolerate in Paluma, that's not you know, I'm not your council person. Um, I want those people to be able to have their events and I want them, you know, I don't want farmers debate to be disrupted by, you know, um, a thousand people that are, you know, all of a sudden, you know, now the farmers can't actually go there and sit in the stands because there's people there. Like that's what like this is present is preventing. It's not um, this isn't draconian anti-free speech. just is trying to make sure that, you know, honestly, different people who are um using the fairgrounds can use it um for what they intended without having to be um honestly uh you know, I'm not even going to say it. But anyway, um I'm happy to move the whole consent calendar. Um and let's move on.

I'll be happy to second that. So, we have a motion from Barnacle and a second from Gator Thompson. And everyone's had a chance to say their uh wishes. Let's have a roll call vote. Barnacle, I. Kater Thompson, yes. D Carly, yes. Now, yes. Quint, yes. Shibs, yes. McDonald, yes. Motion carries unanimously.

Wonderful. Thank you. And uh that takes us to uh what we're going to call item nine, which is now our next thing on the docket. Um it's the introduction first reading of an ordinance to update radar enforcable speed limits on Freight's Road and I Street within city limits. And to help us out here, we have Bejorn Grieenberg. All right. Good evening again, mayor and council members. got a uh hopefully quick and relatively straightforward item, [clears throat] excuse me, tonight to introduce an ordinance to update our radar enforceable speed limits on sections of Freights Road and I Street. Um just a quick overview of how speed limits are set because it's not entirely uh obvious or intuitive. So um we are required by law to collect an engineering and traffic survey on all arterial and collector streets within the city. uh now every seven years. It was previously every five years. Um our last citywide survey was done in 2020. And conducting a survey requires uh having clear and dry conditions, traffic moving at free free flow speeds, so you avoid the peak hours when there's congestion. Uh you need to get radar uh speeds on 100 vehicles, at least 100 vehicles traveling in each direction. And so once you compile all of that data, you round uh you look at the 85th percentile speed. So the value uh if you took 100 speeds, you would look for the value that is preceded by 84 data points and followed by uh 14 data points. And um so you take that speed, you can round it down or up to the nearest 5 mph uh interval. That's at our discretion as staff uh based on engineering judgment. Um, if it's below that halfway point between five mph intervals, you can actually round down an additional five. So, say a speed comes in at 42, you

could round down to 40 and then round down again to 35. Um, and then in 2022, we had uh some major changes to state uh through state legislation, Assembly Bill 43, that uh revised guidance if certain conditions are met. And I'll cover that here. So, this was AB43. Um, that enabled us to reduce speed limits within our downtown commercial business district to 20 m hour. So, we've already done that. It allowed us to reduce uh school zone speed limits within 500 ft of schools to 15 mph. We've done that. And then it also provided guidance on um what the state is referring to as designated safety corridors. There's several different criteria that can be met to qualify as a safety uh safety corridor. Uh examples include collision history, uh proximity to major activity generators like schools or parks, uh bicycle and pedestrian activity, um somewhat at the city's discretion, but uh it cannot exceed 20% of our city street network. So, that's a bigger um the the not only did the guidance for those uh identifying those safety corridors lag behind the other two components of AB43 um but it's obviously just a bigger undertaking uh one that will really uh require a comprehensive look at all of our city streets. So, uh, we will be bringing that back to this council, um, later this year for, uh, for a a big round of speed limit updates, uh, to comply with, uh, with that new legislation. So, tonight, uh, we did pull out two corridors, uh, that were prioritized due to, uh, due largely to community input, um, and, uh, and and requests from our community to take a look at reducing speeds. Uh so the first before you is Freight's Road between Eli Boulevard South and Lakeville Highway. The current posted speed limit out there is 40 miles

an hour. When we surveyed this back in 2020, our 85th percentile speed was 43. Um so with with that survey, the lowest we could go was the 40 mph uh speed limit. in uh in the past several months, we collected a new engineering and traffic engineering and traffic survey and got a new 85th percentile speed of 41 miles an hour. So, like I said, that allows us now to round down to 40 and then round down again to 35, which we recommend due to the surrounding residential land use and bicycle and pedestrian activity and and really with a lot of input from uh folks living in the Southgate uh neighborhood. Our second corridor that we are recommending for a reduced speed limit is I street between Grailia Drive uh out near city limits and Sunny Slope Road. Current posted speed limit out there is 35. Our last [snorts] uh our 2020 survey came in at 41. Uh we recently made some changes out there to attempt to uh to slow traffic. Uh it's an area kind of like freight where it's a a rural to urban interface. you go from the county section of I Street to the city section uh with very little um uh change in the in the roadway characteristics, but obviously there is a change in the land use uh context. And so our goal here was to slow traffic as it uh as it enters and leaves the city uh from between the city and that that rural context. Um, so what we did was we installed a bunch of uh median islands that that really require drivers to uh as they enter town or or drive through this area uh requires them to do so with a little bit more caution and uh awareness and um we have seen success in in this change as far as its ability to slow traffic. So I our new 85th percentile speed when we surveyed it was 6 miles an hour lower

than it was back in 2020. And so this allows us now to recommend a new posted speed limit of 30 mph down from 35. So our recommendation tonight is to introduce an ordinance to update the radar enforceable speed limits on Freights Road and I street consistent with the findings of the engineering and traffic surveys and applicable provisions of the California Vehicle Code. And with that, I'm happy to take questions.

Great presentation. Thank you very much. You know, um I'm actually certain that council's going to be tying questions and comment all into one. And so I think I'd like to ask the clerk uh to open public comment at this period and and tell us if anyone online has uh mentioned anything. We did not receive any comments ahead of the meeting. Um and I haven't received a card yet. Do we have anybody that wishes to speak tonight? Yes. So, we have Christine White to speak first and I see no other cards coming forth. So, this is our speaker for the public comment.

Thank you. Uh, thanks for your presentation, Bejorn. I know we met uh before with uh residents from West Regginals, which is where I live, as well as residents on I Street. And at that meeting, we said, "Why don't you lower the speed limit?" And you said that wouldn't help. So you put in all these chicanees and etc that that in fact lowered and now you're going to lower our speed limit. But my question I guess is at this point the speed limit used to be 40. It was lowered to 35 and it seems like that's working. So why are you now recommending to go an additional five down when it seemed like the 85% were going 35 and that's what you were looking for and now you want to lower it to 30. I guess that's that's my comment. [clears throat] Why? What what's the need for that? So I'll fill this out.

Okay. Um thank you very much. And with that we close public comment and and bring it up to the council. And and I think I'll take a difference and say Mr. Would you please reply? Please reply.

Happy to. Yeah. So obviously, you know, the 85th percentile uh rule um is it's an interesting way of setting speed limits, it it tends to favor uh kind of the higher end of that distribution of speeds. Obviously, just by its very nature, right? If you're thinking about that distribution, uh we're really not at the top of the bell curve. were kind of on the outer end where uh the fastest drivers are. And I would say that generally speaking um really inconsistency with uh not only engineering uh judgment but also our our city um city policies, our emphasis on vision zero. We would like to move move uh speed limits and street design speeds down closer to the middle of that bell curve. Um, we're really aiming more for the for uh as much as possible, as much as we can within uh the confines of the California Vehicle Code. We would like to encourage slower speeds wherever we can. And so uh our practice generally is to to push the CBC um as far as we can with slowing speeds. And um and and that's not in uh really in an attempt to to to worsen traffic congestion or to punish drivers. It's it's to improve safety on our streets. It's to reduce the frequency and severity of collisions. The faster people are going, not only uh will collisions be more frequent, they will also be more severe. So, um that that would really kind of be our my my overarching response to why we're pushing the C generally pushing the CVC and our enforceable speed limits as low as we possibly can within that guidance.

Great. Thanks. Uh Council Member Kater. Um, and isn't doesn't have something to do with if um you hit somebody or a bicyclist if you're going 35 versus or 40 35 versus 30 or 25 expectancy.

Yeah. The uh there's a chart that I've we've shared in the past. Um the expected survival rate when a pedestrian is struck by a vehicle going 20 miles an hour is 90% and that number reduces to 10% at 40 miles an hour. Um, and then the other piece I'll add to it, um, you know, with with reducing speed limits, you're really not and slowing traffic, you're really not actually worsening traffic congestion. Congestion is a function of what's happening at intersections, not necessarily what's happening in mid-block or free flowing areas. Um, if you took, you know, a trip across the town uh, at 20 mph versus 40, you're talking about very negligible time difference. It's what's happening when you're hitting those traffic signals and intersections that's actually going to start making difference.

Thank you, council member. Now,

um thank you for that, um presentation. Um the I Street is so different from Freighus. It's like apples and oranges. You can't even compare them. I street is um a very dark corridor in the evening. It doesn't have a lot of light. There's a lot of older um tree um shading the light and I think that those new medians should have some sort of reflector or even flashing lights cuz I'm surprised that they haven't been struck by an automobile because there's a lot of wildlife on I Street. real early in the morning, you see the deer coming across the street and in the evening you see the deer and real late it's the fog. It sits on almost the ground and I've come from friends houses after dinner and it's very dark and foggy and you really want to slow down but those new medians really need some reflectors. And then we have our bicyclists and there's a lot of activity on that street either runners, walkers or bicyclists. And so I am 100% um for reducing the speed in that area. Freighus I have some questions. That is a truck route. It is the main truck route from Paluma to Soma. Going on Freighus. If you're slowing the the vehicles down, will that help the residents in Southgate? There's been numerous complaints um about the rumbling of the trucks going down Freighus and we don't know if it's the road conditions or if they're going too fast or the type of truck. I I'm not an expert there, but there's cracks in their foundation, their sidewalks. It's very um disruptive to

the Southgate residents lives. So, can you help us answer those?

Yeah. So, um yeah, the goal with with the reduced speed limit on freights and and the reason it uh really got this attention was was largely community input that we received from uh residents in the area, including in the Southgate neighborhood. And so the the goal here is um uh and the reason we took another lookout is to to try to to reduce those speeds largely to you know for for for the benefit of residents in the surrounding area. Um, and then as far as I street, I will say the so the striping in the roadway um and uh and it's then it also includes reflective markers in the roadway and uh and those the signs and the uh plastic delineators all should have reflective elements. But we'll take another look and make sure everything that you know that reflective tape hasn't been peeled off for example because sometimes that does happen. Make sure everything looks um looks good. Well, and that's if they've been hit, they get the black skid tire marks over the top of it and then they're peeling off. And when that fog is so low, um I don't even know if the reflector tapes will really work that well. Um because if you're going too fast, and that's I know to slow down, but I'm a grandma. I'm driving with a special cargo. So anyway, thank you.

Thank you. and uh Council Member Quint.

Thank you. I'll I'll try to make this super quick. I just want to um use this as an opportunity to uh express my appreciation for staff's work. I think uh particularly on freight. I I know there's been a lot of community input, a lot of of meeting on I Street, but specifically with Freight is um it is a truck route. it there there are more trucks that travel on that road uh uh in a given day than uh any other road in Paluma um except for perhaps Lakeville. Um and this will make a this will make a huge difference. So where I think staff got this right, community members reached out. Um Peggy and a couple of members of her team along with Chief went out and met with residents uh and they what's what's unusual about that is when you're on freights and you're driving on freights, it doesn't feel like a problem. Uh but when you go and you just stand off on Kelly Rancherero and you watch the traffic going by is when you really recognize how disruptive it is. And uh and so uh after staff met with community members uh within a week they had already made uh adjustments to the signals uh and now this is coming to uh um having this come come come to fruition. I just really appreciate it and I think it's a job well done. Thank you.

Thank you council member Darly. Uh thanks for the presentation. I'm I'm curious and this was sort of asked in public comment but the the medians was that not enough to reduce speeds on I Street? No, that that's exactly why we took a new survey was uh was to see how well the medians reduce the speed. So, um uh yeah, like I mentioned, our previous survey in 2020 uh was 41, the 85th was 41. Our new one with the medians in place now 35. So that allows us to set a new uh lower enforceable speed limit out there.

So the purpose of the medians was to get even a little bit extra out of the whole thing to further reduce it to a total of 10 miles an hour.

Um no, the the previous posted speed limit, the current posted speed limit out there right now is 35. Um, and so what we are, like I I described, what we're doing here is uh recommending lowering it an additional five, rounding down to 30 just to stay within the parameters of the uh California vehicle code. And um and again kind of pushing the enforceable speed limit uh closer to the average speed rather than looking at the the top end uh speeds. Mhm. And um I mean with the medians, they've they've been a concern of mine for a while for a lot of reasons. I said it before, but I feel like the more obstructions you put in the road, the dangerous the more dangerous you um of a situation you're creating. And so I mean, do you see the medians as, you know, if a car and a bike are trying to go through those at the same time and a car has to deviate around that, is that a more likely scenario for a cyclist, runner, anybody to get struck? because now the car is not going straight.

Um, no, I I wouldn't say so necessarily. Um, it's it's the the intent behind that design and behind any any feature you see added to a street that intro introduces horizontal def that's called horizontal deflection when you're basically making drivers maneuver something as opposed to vertical deflection which would be speed bumps of some sort. Um the intent is to force drivers to pay attention and we know in this day and age that drivers are increasingly distracted. Um they are uh vehicles uh are uh faster and uh built with higher hoods. Um there's just a lot of factors that lead to um increased collision frequency and severity. And so when we introduce elements like these in a roadway, we're trying to give a cue to drivers, hey, you should probably pay attention to what you're doing right now. And that'll not only force uh encourage attentive driving, but it'll also encourage more cautious and slower driving. [clears throat]

And then um you know, as far as the the survey from the public in neighborhoods to do this, I I remember when the medians were added, it was a it was just a very simple letter with a handful of signatures, some just first names. Um I mean what what kind of measures did you take to now reduce it another 5 miles an hour? What kind of input did you seek?

None. It was it's so this is kind of a I would say this is a standard practice that when you make major changes to a street um go out and collect a new engineering and traffic survey, see what the effects have been and then evaluate whether a new speed limit is appropriate. Uh so this is akin to what you would see if we were out uh after like after a a paving major paving project for example that introduces some new design traffic calming design elements. We would we would collect a new survey because the conditions have changed. And so we considered these conditions to uh these conditions warrant a uh or in our minds at least uh a new a recommendation to lower the speed limit. Thank you.

Thank you, Council Member Barnacle.

Thanks. Um, super excited and supportive of this. Just going to recap uh a bunch of other stuff. Our local road safety plan has found that speeding is by far and away the biggest um issue that we've had. former Chief Savano um I I'll quote him until I die um said that uh death and injury from traffic accidents on a on a good year is 2 to1 and on a bad year is 3 to one compared to violent crime. So this is like you know we're dealing with some of the biggest issues in terms of public safety in our city with this. Um just looking at the the data if you're hit going 40 by a car going 40 miles an hour you have an 80% chance of dying. If it's 30 miles an hour, you have a 40% chance of dying. And if the car is only going 20 miles an hour, you have a 90% chance of living. So what we're talking about here by why we're trying to continue to drive this down is um to save lives. Quite frankly, it's about public safety um at the end of the day. And so um I'm very appreciative of this. Also, I just want to point out that I know sometimes people don't understand like all the wacky stuff that Bejorn does to our roads, but like it does work, right? like we've we reduced the speed six miles an hour. Um that has a notable impact on people's likelihood of living if they get hit on that street and animals too, deer, you know, things like that that will get hit in the night and things like that. So, um I'm very supportive of this. I'm very supportive of your work as you know and um I'm happy to move the item again.

I'll be happy to second that. All right. We have a um motion by Barnacle and a second by Kater Thompson and [clears throat] um Council Member Shreb has yet to weigh in.

Okay. Just um support again what's already been said. Um I've biked and driven on both those roads and when the chicanees went in on I Street, uh I have a pickup truck and I tried to get through them. I really did have to slow down uh consciously. So actually that made me work a little bit harder and so I I totally agree with that and getting that and then we have to match the physical with the actual limits. So so that's all really good. Um, councilman now also mentioned some things about that I street von freighus I go to Soma and then from Sonoma sometimes I go down to the the park to to Scholenburgger um I also do that on my bike so and it's a little bit it's for the speed on freighus it's especially they're coming in from Soma stop sign and then they're really hauling down to Lakeville so that is more coming from Lakeville not so bad probably but coming down and probably it's the trucks that are still speeding and then all they have a curve they have to navigate and that's and they're throttling down and that's the the bumping and the loud noises coming from them throttling down. So I support all that and I just want to make reiterate a point that you made. We need to really say this time and time again. The congestion's from the intersections not from the thoroughares. Um, I've done a number of calculations looking at how much time do I save or lose by going 65 miles an hour on a freeway versus 60. And at uh we're talking about less than a uh one 5% difference um uh on the hour basis and in in town we're talking about um for travel across town maybe it's 20 minutes. So you're adding one minute by slowing down and a one minute nobody's I don't think I'm I'm very efficient but I'm not so efficient that that one m minute minute is going to matter in uh in what I do at the end. So um and there is this culture that you mentioned um about I've seen the anxiety increase.

I've seen the speeds now increasing a little bit there. So we need to slow down everything on every road everywhere um if we're to uh maintain a civilized approach to everybody and car car culture needs to settle down and get calm. So anyway, I just wanted to comment that fully support this and um do more of it in other places. Thank you.

Thank you. And um I'll also note I'm in thorough support of the program entirety that you're um um leading us in. And uh you know, ironically, uh we opened the South Boulevard roundabout some time back and I've had people come up to me and said, "It's terrible. I have to slow down there." And I think yeah, that's the point there. you know, I mean, so, uh, similarly, uh, I appreciate that you modified original designs on I Street, listened to the neighbors and and looked at the the data that we're achieving out there, but everywhere I go in town, the number one issue people want to talk about is speeding. There's no other consensus issue other than speeding. You know, a lot of people are happy about this or that, but everybody is unhappy. And you have to realize, it's not them speeding. It's all us speeding. it's everybody's speeding and so when you um put it into structural design of roads that where it doesn't look like a speedway anymore and where you have to pay attention I mean my god if you hit a concrete object in the middle of the road um you'd hit a deer you'd hit a child I mean you know I don't know why we have an empathy for somebody who hits concrete when it instead of the concrete it would have been a kid that they hit so um I fully support what we're doing here and pass it back to council member Kater Thompson

just quickly Um off uh Chief Miller the other day I believe that you said that um Paluma has very little crime very little but speeding is the bigger issue is what you stated or made a comment at the award ceremony and I appreciated that

and that's only because we don't have enough officers doing speeding work. [laughter] Uh yeah, we continue to live in a really safe community and I would echo the comments from council member Barnacle that unfortunately uh former chief Savano's comments continue to re consistently true. We continue to see more fatalities and deaths in our community as a result of uh tragic vehicle collisions than we do for violent crime. So, thank you. And I think we all appreciate um the um efforts the uh officer of the PD make in uh their efforts to reduce speeding in town and all the work they do. And we appreciate uh what public works department does as well. And with that, we have a motion second. May have a roll call vote.

Barnacle. I. Ker Thompson? Yes. D Carly? Yes. Now, yes. Quint, yes. Shribs, yes. McDonald, yes. Thank you very much to staff for being here.

Thank you for the motion. Um, that takes us next to our housing imp um element implementation program. The adoption, this is the second reading of an ordinance to adopt zoning text amendment to modify the city of Paluma implementing zoning ordinance for zone district allowable land uses. also off-use parking and loading facilities. Also, administrative procedure. Section 2820, the glossery of this item. Um, and the pedalum city smart code. Section three, building function standards as well. Section four, urban standards table, the parking requirements. And section 9, glossery, to implement program seven of the city's sixth cycle, housing element pertaining to zoning regulations for residential care facility. And to help us out with this, we have Brian O, our uh community and economic development director, Andrew Triple, our planning manager, and Emanuel Ersu, our principal planner. So you may

permission to wave the presentation considering we just voted on this already. Uh like I this is the second reading and um if we have a straw poll that is in consensus of that and and um um then I'd like to see it. Um and um I I think uh we have to respect the um the member who wishes to have the presentation, but it does not mean that the presentation need be as exhaustive as the first one as I'm sure you haven't abridged for this one. So please take it away.

Thank you, mayor. Um we do have a presentation. It's largely a regurgitation of the initial the introduction. Um so I have the staff available to answer any questions. Um as a reminder as part of the introduction we did not um receive any direction to uh come back with any changes. Uh what we did do in this staff report was to provide some additional um clarification uh and presentation of the parking the proposed parking standards as that was a question that had come up about concern about residential uh parking um and what this change may um make any changes with respect to parking. So that's in the staff report. If there's a question about that, we're happy to answer it. And I have um the relevant staff here ready to go. Okay, that's the presentation. It's good presentation. Thank you. Um so, uh and council, any questions? Um let's go to public comment. We did receive one comment ahead of the meeting and I do have one card, but I can start a 30 second clock if there's anyone else who would like to submit a speaker card. We have one speaker card tonight. It's Chantel Rogers.

So, I apologize that this is addressed in the renewed parking that I that I missed, but I did want to say that I went to the Spirit Living community meeting a couple of years ago at the mentor center put on by the project developer. Um, at the end of the presentation, I asked him about the parking and if he had been required to do a parking study since 29 spaces seemed so low for a building with 106 units and 30 employees. And he told me that the parking study that had been conducted for the entire riverfront mixed use development included his uh project and that that was how many they told him he had to have. Uh, this project was apparently not evaluated individually to determine adequate parking spaces. In addition, Spirit Living intends to have a full-time van and driver available to shuttle employees to and from the smart station and to drive tenants around. Their hope is that the service will reduce the need for staff and residents to park their personal vehicles on the premises. Spirit Living is also in the final approval stage for its property being built in Strawberry in Marin County. It's a larger building since it's offering more on-site amenities, but it will have the same number and type of living units, 35 memory care, and seven 70 independent apartments. They are planning to build a 72 space underground parking garage. Um, at the last meeting where this was discussed, the city indicated that they were using the Spirit Living proposal as a model for necessary parking for these types of developments. The riverfront mixeduse development site is unusual in its umbrella use of a parking study. Proximity to downtown and the smart station and its on-site van and driver service for residents. It would not seem an average and appropriate project on which to base requirements of all similar projects. I believe the city

should reconsider using this project to anticipate parking needs of future construction. Thank you. Thank you very much. And uh that clo closes public comment for the evening. Bringing it back up to council. Council member um Shrebs.

Um okay. So parking was was taken care of in the written reports. Um, but I just talked to a design person and um just it's on the side little issue if we were to have this um these residences either in in a corridor or in the downtown area. I think that's one of the possibilities we we we're hoping that might happen to construction on vacant lots somewhere that we get this done. And so we're applying for everywhere in town, but in the places on corridors and in um in the downtown area. So in the design standards um is given this situation that we're applying to um do they have to meet the current design standards and are we missing design standards around um the front entrances and walkability and the like so that the pedestrians uh have enough uh view of so it's not just a doorway with a long wall. Uh we have trees there uh on on the pedestrian area um to walk by so it's a little bit more pleasant. Do we have design standards that that run that like like we have some of that in the downtown 50 foot? Do we need uh is 50 foot going to be small enough for for the entrances and the like and for solid walls or should we um is is that part of this or anyway is there a relationship here to think about as far as this goes as far as overall design standards?

Thank you. Uh Emanuel Ersu principal planner. Uh we include uh a requirement that uh projects in mixed use and commercial zones uh comply with the objective design standards as they pertain to uh ground floor street frontage uh interaction with the public realm with with the street front. So uh that is done specifically to address the interaction between the sidewalk and uh development on the ground floor.

Okay. So then uh just going back to walkability uh uh folks and discussions we've had there in the webinars and things that we we're receiving creating more of a walkability and for pedestrians currently our design standards are criticized because we're uh we're not good enough. So um in our design standards currently do you feel that comfortable for this type of setting um that the 50 ft um between uh different doorways or windows type things is is going to function for this type of facility.

Yeah. So they're both the objective design standards of uh chapter 7 that apply but also we do have uh the discretion through the site plan and architectural review that would apply to these uh developments in the commercial and and mixed use zones. So if the planning commission uh or on appeal the city council felt that the objective design standards did not accomplish what they're intended to uh I think we have through the uh discretionary u qualitative standards of site plan architecture we review the tools to be able to uh require additional changes or or additional elements project elements to address uh those concerns. Okay guys, so even though we're giving a a free reign to folks to come in with all this facilities, uh they still have to applied all of the uh requirements that we have and we have ways of of controlling what actually happens. So it's not a totally free reign. Just come on and do whatever you want.

It is not a total free range. Correct. Just just making sure we're clear on that. Thank you. Yes. Okay. Um any other comments,

Council Member Garland? Um, well, I just I just want to stay consistent with the first reading on this. You know, parking aside, um, I don't like uh I don't like seeing the potential for mixeduse buildings downtown to become care facilities. Um, like you'll uh any of them any of them right downtown, our old iron friends um that or or you know commercial being mixed with this. I mean, it's in in kind of the name of um you know, making things more flexible and easier. We're we're kind of diluting our zoning code by doing things like this. And we've been doing lots of actions like this. And so, you know, to stay consistent with the first reading, I still don't I don't think I can support this.

Thank you, Council Member Barnacle. Yeah. And I just point to the enormous need for housing in our community of all types, including residential care facilities. And so for that reason, I'll definitely be supporting this. Again, um I think uh to the point of objective design standards, Veronica Olsen, the letter that we received was pretty um thoughtfully um constructed and I'd encourage us to look at that and see if there's any updates that we could make to our objective design standards to incorporate some of that input. Um but with that, I'll move the item. Appreciate that input. Second and we have so we have a motion from Barnacle and a second from now. And um if we're good then I'd like a roll call vote at this time.

Barnacle I. Kater Thompson. Yes. D Carly. No. Now yes. Quint. Yes. Shri. Yes. McDonald. Yes. Motion carries 6 to one with council member Darly voting. No.

Thank you very much. Thank you team. See you on the next housing issue. Um so that brings us to our uh final item of the night item 8 which is an introduction first uh first reading of an ordinance amending the cross connection and backflow control regulations contained in chapter 1509 of the pedal municipal code. Uh to help us out with this we have uh Chelsea Thompson, director of water resources and utilities sitting in the back and uh Dan Herrera leading uh from the front deputy director of operations. Thank you.

Thank you. Um, good evening, mayor, council, city, city staff, and members of the public. Uh, my name is Dan Herrera. I'm the deputy director of uh de deputy director of water resource and utilities. And the item you have before you is the introduction uh of an ordinance amending cross connection and backflow control regulations contained in chapter 15.09 of the pedalum municipal code. Now this is re this is necessary due to make sure that the city of Paluma is in compliance with new state uh regulations that have come have come into play. Uh we have a presentation starting um off the night. So it's going to introduce our crossition control program and these municipal municipal code updates. So the agenda for tonight uh we're really going to kind of see let you know you know define what the cross condition control program is. um show some key elements of that program, identify some state waterboard requirements that are in play, um highlight the pedal and municipal code revisions, uh show you how we are preparing to to meet these new requirements and uh and our next steps uh with and what the program schedule is um going to the future. So what is a cross connection control program? uh it's a public water systems requirement to protect the drinking water supply from contamination by preventing backflow from a customer into the public water system. Now these can can happen in a couple different ways. Uh one is back siphonage. So when you have a loss of pressure into the public system, say like a main break, you you have a negative pressure, it feeds water into the system from customers or you actually have back pressure which is the site has a pumping system some elevated pressure which pushes their water into our system. How do we protect our systems? Well, essentially it's a backro prevention assembly. There are many different kinds. So some key elements to the cross connection control program. Um so it's a regulatory requirement from the state

water board. Um the adoption establishes legal authority through our municipal code. Uh it requires a citywide height hazard assessment. Uh this identifies potential hazards that will require protection. It defines the requirements of backlo prevention elements to meet these state regulations. uh it ensures that the city has trained personnel through certification requirements and then it also requires annual backflow testing and recordkeeping. So, so [snorts] here's some of the the essential state waterboard requirements. So, things we've already completed. So, in July of last year, we submitted our uh cross connection control program to the waterboard. Um we've updated our city standards and specifications to meet those new requirements that came from the state. So all city standards for backflip preventers uh they all they already comply. So any new construction that's being uh done meets those new state requirements. We're in the process right now of updating our our pedal municipal code. And then our next steps are a site hazard assessment. It's a two-year process to kind of go through basically every parcel within the city of Pedaluma. And then ultimately we have to ensure ensure site compliance with Buffalo requirements um in uh in within 10 years which is July of 20 2035. Um here's some highlights for the for municipal code revisions. Again, more in the staff report. These are more more detailed these changes, but ultimately um there's the removal of title 17 language from the municipal code and replacement of the cross connection control policy handbook. So title 17 was the old California code of regulations. Uh that is no longer in play and the waterboard has now adopted uh the cross connection control policy handbook which we've installed. Hopefully what this does is this um if we make some changes to our city's cross control program, hopefully we don't have to make changes to the pedal municipal code to enforce that. Um so this uh the code includes

new or improved definitions of water system and cross connection control uh control program elements. It includes new cross control uh program personnel certification requirements. Uh it updates site premise and backflow prevent requirements uh to meet those new standards. uh it updates backlo device testing requirements and ultimately it incorporates title and department changes that we've undergone in the last couple years. So the next slide shows just kind of an example of some of what you know if you're wondering what the actual device is. Um so and then what the new regulations entail. So what you see here are fireflow um backfield preventers. They're double detector checks. They got double um and they're above ground. So we have in this city a lot of underground single checks that are going to need to be updated. And then also the new backflow you see on the bottom. These are RP reduced pressure devices that go on into our new say single family uh residential when they have sprinklers installed in their homes. So how the city is preparing um so existing staff have completed require specialists and testing and certification. Um we're also really evaluating the staff needs to meet these requirements. We have a couple deadlines that are pressing and we want to make sure we have the staff and the organizational chart to meet those deadlines. Uh we're looking at our software and programs. So we have current backflow software that we utilize. We have a new billing system, new GIS. So making sure that we're on the cutting edge with incorporating that information into our our processes. And we're also engaging in consulting services. So we have um we have a consultant that assisted us with our program and and up um you know submitted to the state. And we're also having a third party help us with our citywide site hazard assessment. So this is a really big one. So the next steps what's really happening next is a citywide site hazard assessment. So

essentially all water service connections all 21,000 of them uh require a potential an assessment for to identify potential hazard to see if it's going to need backflow uh requirements. Um we have a consultant under contract to perform this assessment and it needs to be completed by December 2027. Um some of the priorities uh we have city facilities, we have commercial, industrial, institutional, those are really the ones that uh we're really looking at. We have fire protection systems but ultimately we have to evaluate every single site. So we do have single multif family res residential as as uh the last phase of the program of the site hazard assessment. So, our program schedule. Um, so again, we're going to be completing this by 2027, uh, the site hazard assessment. We're going to come back once that's all done. We're going to kind of compose a report, come back to you with those results, and let you know what exactly is going to be necessary to make sure our system is protected. Ultimately, we're going to be looking at compliance in phases. Our single check fire systems are going to be kind of the most necessary. They're not testable. They're really at a risk of our system that's the highest risk. Um, we have our CI um in compliance by 2030, but ultimately full compliance by 2035. And this last one is just a little bit of why it's kind of necessary. So, this is actually right outside city hall. On the left, you'll see what normally everybody sees. Uh, W texture check. It's right next to it's actually next to a sewer manhole. But, if you actually uncover the ground, you see it's a maze, a network of pipes and backflow and checks and valves. And it's just things like that are are all over all over the city and just we need to make sure that our system is protected. So in order to protect our distribution system from the Mesa network of pipes, we we have backup prevention on our distribution system. And that is my presentation. Here to answer any questions or comments you have. Thank [clears throat] you very much,

Council Member Shrebs. Okay. Um great. I do irrigation work and so I understand backflow required in even a lot of irrigation stuff um and this is really um this but this looks like it's totally necessary required by law was needed for safety pretty standard stuff that we need to just do u why isn't even coming before us is it because of budget this shouldn't even become the consent calendar it's like it's automatic you just do it because it's an OSHA requirement type thing you think because it's our ordinance that needs to change I think that's the requirement for any sort of anytime we change ordinance, we have to have a first and second reading. But I [snorts] love the sentiment. Thank you very [laughter]

just just why we're here to hear about this. That's the that's what it is. That's all if that's all this is then then great. We just do you need extra money in a budget to do this. We will come to that I think in in a year in a year and a half or two years in December. um we may need to tackle that to to make sure that what's necessary uh to to make sure the city of Ped residents are are are protected. Right. So once that site hazard assessment is done, we're going to see what that animal looks like, how many sites need to be protected, what that looks like, and then we'll we'll uh we'll come to you with solutions.

Okay. Sounds like a no-brainer. Okay. So, uh, one thing, um, with this, um, I think what we're moving into is not just the parks and the commercial that have always known, uh, they needed this and irrigation connections where they're putting fertilizer in right in the portable line right after our connection. Um, but, um, but I think what we're moving into with the fire sprinkler business is that we will have tremendous personal impact to residents who have modern fire sprinkler systems. So there's going to be a big individual I mean maybe the city budget we can always find I don't know how we're going to do it on the city level but I know even less how we're going to do it on established uh residential customers and so that worries me and the assessment will tell us that kind of problem. Yeah. My question though, I'm really hoping that our recycled water system that we've invested in pipe and plant for will get used for um residential communities. And um I'm not sure if we're already moved into the HOA area and we're serving HOAs yet, but I think that's like one of the primary expansion efforts. But at some point there's going to be even down to more personal levels and that all of those right will need this kind of setup and system. And so there'll be even more personal in order to get our recycle water where we want it. We'll be needing to have other things that uh that are in place and impacting.

Right. I I think Chelsea um I think we have we've addressed a little bit maybe in our integrated water management master plan might talk about the the use of recycled water and in in different areas. is I think right now we're really focusing on on the water systems and you're right that this the single family residential with the sprinklers um that is something that we're we're looking at they're going to be addressed in that site hazard assessment what's important going forward like every new development everything that we're doing now uh is is is under you know we are regatory complaint with all that

yeah I do appreciate that about all future development the the the most um economical in every sense the insulation's better the water conservation's better Everything's better. It's all of us that bought a house yesterday or some long ago that are going to have see this more. Council member Barnacle, do you have a [snorts] comment? Okay. Anyone? Let's move it to public uh comment. We did not receive any comments on this and I have not yet received any cards, but this is the moment to submit them. And not seeing anyone standing and and rushing to the podium, we will close public comment. back to council for any comments or a motion.

I'll make the motion, but I'll also say that I mean our water system is important and I know this isn't as sexy as other things, but to me this is the most important things for running a community and making us safe. So, I'm happy. Good. Good. That's a motion from Kater Thompson. And we all support the second motion, which is that water is so so important. And do we have a second coming? A second and a second from council member now. And may we have our roll call vote? Barnacle. Hi. Kater Thompson. Yes. D Carly, yes. Now, yes. Clint, yes. Trips, yes. McDonald, yes. Motion carries unanimously.

Thank you and thank you for the presentation. And uh before we adjourn, I want to note that tonight we will be adjourning um in in honor of Jesse Jackson um a great contributor to our whole nation. Thank you very much. Good night. This meeting is adjourned.