About this meeting
- Government Body
- Planning Commission
- Meeting Type
- Planning Commission
- Location
- Perris, CA
- Meeting Date
- March 4, 2026
Transcript
108 sections (from 288 segments)
How are you?
Commissioner Jimenez. Commissioner Menz here. Commissioner Lopez here. Vice Shively here. Sher Hammond here. Thank you. Thank you very much. Okay. She's not here. We have a pledge of allegiance led by Commissioner MZ.
Please stand. Right hand over your heart. Thank you very much. Uh there are no presentations in item four. So we'll move on to consent calendar approval of the planning commission minutes from February 18, 2026 meeting. Are there any corrections, deletions, additions? I guess none from J. Okay. At this time, we'll open up for public comment on the consent calendar. If anyone would like to have a public comment on the item of approval of planning commission minutes is welcome to come forward to the podium and address the planning commission. Seeing none, we close the public comments and bring it back for a motion for approval. Yes, Commissioner Lopez.
Yes, Vice Chair Shively. Yes, Sher Hammond. Yes. With a vote forward and one absent at this motion's approved.
Thank you very much. At this time, we move on to item 6A. Item 6A is a conditional use permit 24-0560 and development plan review 24-00001 continued off calendar from the January 7, 2026 meeting. A proposal to consider the following entitlements to facilitate a commercial development project on a triangular shaped 10.64 64 acre site surrounded by Case Road, Get Road, and Ellis Avenue in the employment plaza designation of the Paris downtown specific plan. Number one, conditional use permit to allow a 138,672 ft self- storage facility, a 5,974 ft convenience store beyond Food Mart with a drive-thru and an auxiliary vehicle fueling station, and a 1,667 foot automated car wash. And number two, development plan review for the review of the site plan and building elevations for the commercial development. Obviously, the applicant is Maran Alabasi and it's to be brought to us by Matthew Evans, contract planner. The requested action is to adopt resolution 26-01 adopting mitigated negative decoration number 2407 and a mitigation monitoring and reporting program and approve conditional use permit 24-05060 and development plan review 24-00001 to facilitate the construction of a 138,672 ft self storage facility and a 5,974 ft convenience store beyond Food Mart with a drive-thru and auxiliary vehicle fueling station and a 1,667 ft automated car wash. Based on the
findings contained herein, subject to conditions of approval is an exparte communication, ad hoc committee meetings and or site visit. We want to report now. I've seen this uh project during ad hoc. Okay. I drive by the site daily. Yep. I drive by the site and was uh ad hoc as well.
Okay. And I drive by the site quite a few times over 30 years. Okay. At this time, Matthew, would you please bring Oh, I want to do want to introduce some items. I'll do it for you. We have a uh comment letters regarding the gets and case roll beyond food martin self storage. And bear with me for a little while. I'll just do it for you. Make it easier for you. Um, letter from Riverside County Fire Department, February 27, 2026. Letter from Patrick Hunter representing the Parish Valley Airport, February 27, 2026. Letter from Federal Aviation Administration ensuing a determination of no hazard to air navigation to the self storage facility site dated March 4th, 2026. A letter from the Federal Aviation Administration issuing a determination of no hazard to air navigation to the Beyond Food Mar site dated March 4th, 2026. We have copies of the letters here to today from Cal Fire, Riverside County. I'm not going to go into what they said about it, but it was regarding case and gets self storage dated February 26, 2026. So that's one letter with accompanying documents. Another letter that was submitted to Mr. Alabasi from signature control Julie Morgan manager obstruction evaluation group and I'm not sure I think um male federal aviation administration I believe that was there and you can go into more detail from there but I'm just showing you what we have for the record more than anything else and again the same area from the Federal Aviation Administration Southwest regional office and I believe believe that was Okay. And so these are all documented on file and can be read by read by anyone. It's a matter of public record. Thank
you, sir.
Yes. Thank you, Chair Hammond. Thank you for that introduction. Matthew Evans, project planner for the gets case in Ellis beyond food martin self- storage project. So just for a little bit of background, the project was continued as mentioned previously from that January 7th, 2026 planning commission meeting and that was to allow both the applicant and staff to address concerns uh raised by CALR uh division of aeronautics. Um CALR um had raised concerns regarding the proximity of the pro proposed fueling station and self- storage facility to the end of the Paris Valley Airport runway. Calrans ultimately concluded uh that land use authority rest with the city of Paris. As of today, the FAA has determined that the project presents no hazards to air navigation. So here you have the aerial map. Uh this is east of Gats Road between Case and Ellis Avenue or Case Road and Ellis Avenue. Uh surrounding uses to the north you have vacant and industrial. To the south you have the Paris Valley Airport and vacant land. To the east you have vacant land and industrial land. And to the west you have the Hunt Club apartments. Those are attached residential units. So here is a site photo. This is a view um from the north looking north um from Ellis Avenue of the site. This is an east view from Getats Road. This is a south view from the intersection at Casease Road and gets and this is a view from Case Road at G Street. Um this is looking westward. So the zoning for the project site. Uh the project site is located um in the downtown employment plaza. It's 10.6
4 acres. uh surrounding zones you have downtown um specific plan employment plaza uh to the north um and to the east um and to the west you have downtown specific plan neighborhood and to the south you have light industrial and public. So here you have the Paris Valley Airport map. The airport zone. The project is located within zones B1 C and D of the Paris Valley um ALUCP. The B1 zone is subject to density limitations that restrict occupancy to no more than 40 people per acre with a maximum of 80 people per acre. Zone C and D are subject to density limitations that restrict occupancy to no more than 50 to 450 people per acre. The downtown specific plan is consistent with the Paris Valley ALUCP. Um, Alch did review the project and found it to be cons conditionally consistent with the Paris Valley Airport ALUCP subject to meeting FAA requirements, which it has. Now, here's your overall site plan. Again, this is 10.64 acres. Uh it includes a 5,974 ft uh convenience store which is branded as a Beyond Food Mart. Uh it also contains a um 1,667 ft automated car wash uh in the back of the building. And then for the self- storage facility, um you have seven buildings totaling 1 138,672 ft. So, here's the access plan. As you can see here, you have one signalized intersection, two proposed signalized intersections. There's actually a signalized intersection at G Street as well, but that doesn't affect the project, so it's not shown here. You
have one driveway with right-in, right out, and leftin access off of Ellis Avenue. And then you have three limited access driveways that are right in, right out only. Wall and fence plan. As you can see here, the um uh for the areas that are not building adjacent to uh sideyard setbacks, you have a 6ft tall block wall in the areas in red. And the areas in green, it is a 6 foot high tube steel fencing, all decorative, of course. So for the site plan for BeyondMart, you have a drive-thru for 14 vehicles. There is no indoor seating or dining perch. You have that car wash I mentioned. It's 1,667 square feet. Um has five vacuum parking spaces. You have a 5,000 approximately square foot fuel island canopy with eight fueling islands and 16 dispensers. Um a approximately 1,000 foot diesel fuel island canopy with two islands and four dispensers. 34 total parking spaces. So you have 21 regular, 7 EV, one EV that's an ADA van accessible, and three ADA parking spaces. There's al also a trash enclosure that is located directly in back of the convenience store adjacent to the um wall at the self- storage facility or close to it I should say. So for the self- storage facility again you have seven buildings totaling 138 672,000 ft. You have two two and a half story buildings, uh, five one-story buildings. Um, you have a 1,222t office, a 1,217T care caretaker unit, eight parking spaces, including 3 ADA and two EV charging spaces, 45 RV parking for
storage, and that's limited to RV only. Uh, trash enclosure with a 10-ft tall decorative block structure and metal roof. main entrance at Ellis Avenue with secondary RV access and fire access at Gats Road. Um, and just for reference, building one is a partial two-story building, but it's mostly a one-story building. Conceptual landscape plan, you have a proposed landscaped area for the entire site of 79,538 ft. That's roughly 21.5% of landscaping. Um I did mention in the staff report that there is no um landscaping uh minimum requirement in the downtown specific plan, but there it probably blow anything that we had in their way. So it's good to know. We have 158 trees provided. Approximately 60 street trees provided. 30% of all trees are 36 inch box as conditioned. Trees at all entrances will be 36-inch box as conditioned for the renderings. So here you have the Beyond Food Mart. You have two elevations um east view of south from getats road and then south view case road to gets road intersection. Here are some additional renderings for you. You have the car wash the canopy. So for the building elevations this is beyond mart. This is the facade elevation from gets at case intersection. And then you have the west view which is the side elevation from case road. This is where the drive-thru and car wash would be north view rear elevation. This is this is your view from the drive-thru essentially because you have that car wash that's blocking most of this view. And then you have the east view which is the side elevation from Gats Road. So back to renderings for the self- storage facility. Here you have the main entrance. This is the north view from Ellis Avenue. You have the east view
from of the self storage. This is the interior. And then the north view from Ellis Avenue entrance. As you can see there that there's that decorative tube steel fence I mentioned earlier at the drive at the driveway. So this is the the first um rendering you see is the west view from Case Road and you have a little bit of tube steel there between the two buildings. the southwest entrance from Beyond Marting lot adjacent to Case Road. On the second uh rendering, building elevations. This is the north elevation. You have um elevations for both sides of the building as well as the um building one elevation. That's the east elevation and building one west elevation. And as you can see here, you have the site plan. You have the red arrow that's pointed to the actual building that you're looking at. So again, building elevations. This is building five guest um gets road elevation. You have the adjacent road adjacent elevation, the interior elevation, and then the side elevations. And again, you can see where at on the site plan. This is building six north. This is the case road elevation that you can see here at the first slide. interior elevation and then your side elevations. This is building seven. This is Ellis Avenue at Case Road elevation. Um this is uh this elevation is facing uh that corner. Um and then in front of this is where you would have uh some landscaping and the WQMP. And this is that view again. It just shows you where where you're looking at here. Actually, this is I'm sorry. This is the uh this is the Ellis gets road elevation, not the not the elevation that you were just looking at. So, and this is that 6ft tall wall.
You have the north elevation. Um this is the um elevation that you would see from Beyond Food Mart and Case Road. That south elevation, east elevation, and southwest elevation. Sorry, these are all building elevations for the walls and fences that you see here. So again, there's that combination of tube steel and um decorative block. Uh public comment letters as noted uh we received six in total comment letters prior to this meeting. Uh two from CALR um and as noted in the staff report um they raised concerns to proximity to um the Paris Valley Airport. Uh staff has since met with um the aeronautics division and u concluded that the land use authority lies with the city. Uh Riverside County, we received uh one letter from Riverside County stating that the uh while the project will have impacts to fire services, those impacts will be mitigated through the city's development impact fees collections prior to the issuance of building permits. Um airport operator as noted um gave us a letter acknowledging the concerns expressed by the CALR in their previous letters. Uh as well as public safety associated with the end of the runway south of the project site which is being addressed with the Ellis Avenue expansion project. And last we received two federal aviation admission letters from today. Uh these um these letters deter it stated that there was a determination of no air no hazard to air navigation and these were sent to the applicant and forwarded to us. Environmental determination a mitigated negative declaration was prepared for this project. The M &D was prepared in compliance with the California qual uh environmental quality act SQA
guidelines. The M &D concluded that there was no imp all impacts have been reduced to less or less than significant significant or have been reduced to below the significant level uh with the implementation of mitigation measures. Only one comment letter was received during that review period. That letter was cal from CALR and it was mostly umformational. Recommendation staff recommends that the planning commission adopt resolution 26-01 adopting mitigated negative negative declaration number 2407 and the mitigation monitoring and reporting program and approving conditional use permit 24-5060 and development plan review 24-00001 based on the findings contained in the resolution and subject to conditions of approval. And that concludes my presentation. Thank you. Thank you very much. And at this
Mr. Chairman, um members of the planning commission, I I would like to um make a modification and and read it into the record for condition of uh planning condition number 46 um to require to require assessment and community facilities districts to um to be triggered um prior to grading permit issuance. or building permit issuance or recordation of final map whichever occurs first. That was number 46. Number 46 of the planning conditions and this will be to be consistent with the engineering conditions.
Okay. Um glad you did that because I had a question about 46D North Paris. I'm sorry out there. North Paris Humanity Facilities District. I'm just wondering is that the South Paris? Yes. Okay. Thank you. See, we do read we do read this, right? If we can just say Paris. Okay. Thank you.
Paris. Okay. It's probably just just better just say Paris community the attributable legal legal language because they're going to have to pay for it anyway. So, it Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I just happened to catch that. Normally I wouldn't, but Okay. And then one more thing from an engineering side, just to be consistent with the PowerPoints, Ellis Avenue, our condition is for full access off of that driveway. I know the slide showed left in only. Mhm. Our conditions call for full access. Which which number was that, Brad? Uh we have in our engineering conditions five, let's see, 5C. Okay.
And we're not making any changes to our engineering conditions. I'm just based off the PowerPoint it was showing a left end only. We're we're calling for full access. Oh, full access. Okay. Okay. Okay. At this time, we'll pick up as we start asking questions. At this time, does the applicant I know you do have have a presentation for us or anything you'd like to say? Just state your name. We know who you are, but you know, for the record. Anyway,
Marwan Alabasi, the applicant. Good evening, Commissioner, Planning Commission, staff. First of all, thank you for allowing us to bring this project finally to planning commission. It's it's been a long journey. I think we acquired this land back in 18 or 19 and it's been going back and forth for the last three, four years with several options starting with a warehouse to residential to and we finally really ended up with this is the just about the only thing that we can build. But before I go, real quick introduction. I have my wife Elizabeth, my son Ramsey, and Kuren who's done a lot of work in this. And I want to introduce these three little guys here. They're the audience because I noticed there's nobody coming. last meeting I said let me bring the grandkids I have four grandsons one couldn't make it the first one Marwan he's named after me but he has a center in Menfi the middle one is Alexander he has one in he so this second youngest grandson he goes what about me so we named the center after him his name is Mazin
and the name Mazun actually is derived from Mazinen so he's very excited he kept asking me is that all mine is that all mine I said yeah that's yours so say hi Mazin
you gonna make a presentation as nose will be the future. I already done training my son Ramsey. You saw him last time. These are the future guys that'll be here. This is just to show that we are here to stay. Our family is very involved in Paris and we love working here. And I really want to give special thanks to planning staff and engineering Matthew for working with us. Uh we had several meetings with them with ad hoc and we accommodated just about everything we could do. We had a lot of restrictions from Auck. They absolutely killed us. Actually, a lot of uh the leaders in Paris were disappointed in us removing the restaurant. We have a new franchise that we developed called Smashburger. We have one in Manife and Papa Smash, I'm sorry, Papa Smash. Uh we had it inside. We ended up deleting it because Alock would not allow us to have seating. Their assumption is going to be like 300 people at the the center at once. They use maximum worst case scenario in case of a crash. So, we ended up eliminating that, but we did not want to get rid of the drive-thru. We will be serving food. If any of you been to uh Beyond Marts, we have food, fresh fruit, uh orange juices, uh uh burgers, wings. So, there'll be food, but no sit down, no dining. Uh but the drive-thru is left. If there's a mom or somebody coming in with their pajamas in the morning, they could just go in and and grab whatever they need. uh the self storage. We also based on the recommendation from the last project we brought to you which we're going to start going into plan check soon. We decided to have I think uh commissioner uh men you mentioned that a business center. So we're going to add that also in here. We'll have a business center inside the uh the self storage. uh the self storage uh those two buildings will be uh climate control with air conditioned so some people could run businesses out of them just like we addressed the last uh the one in uh
Ramona expressway. So the project went through a lot of scrutiny, a lot of uh changes. Like I said, based on the use, this is the only thing we had. Finally, we got it this morning, the clearance from FAA. We're excited about the project. We're the public work contractor for the city doing the widening in Ellis and and we recently widened guts few years ago. So this will really improve that entire corner with you with new signals and new truck route. And hopefully we'll get to open Ellis. Now, if some of you take that route, it's been closed for a while. That's all I have. If anybody have any question, I'll be happy to answer. Thank you.
Thank you very much. Welcome you guys. You know, you might be sitting up here when No, no, I'm old. Come on. Okay. Okay. I shouldn't say I'm old. I'm okay. Okay. This time, are there any question? I should say questions uh by the developer andor the city. I know I have a few, but I'm sure you do. So, we'll start up here today with um Commissioner.
Thank you so much for the presentation, Matt. Um my first question is in regards to the visibility of the buildings. Uh I know building two and three are two stories. Um I wanted to know how much of that building is going to be uh visible through the street view. Yeah, Commissioner Lopez, it's a great question. Let's take a look at the site plan here. So, the two um let me let me go to the one where it breaks down. So, here you have um the site plan for the um self- storage facility. You can see buildings two and one are the only two-story buildings. They're actually contained internally in the in the project. So, the only place that you would see potentially these two buildings driving along the street is from potentially Ellis Avenue or Case Road. Um, as you can see from Cats Road, it's probably not um very visible because it sits back so far. Um here you have also let me show the if I can get back to the fence and wall plan here. So these these um two buildings would actually the the first floor of the building would essentially be screened from uh the street where you'd have that little peekaboo view as you were driving by. I know those are one-story buildings but um I believe they are Let me get to the elevations here. We can take a look at those see how tall they are. So, I believe the one-story buildings are um let me see here. Yeah, there the the one-story buildings
um are about 14 ft tall. So from the areas that you would have a even a peekab-boo view of those those two interior buildings um from these vantage points you would have a six foot tall wall um in the spots where um you don't have buildings adjacent to the road. So you really only have two two spot two two shots when you're driving by this project to catch a a glimpse of the of the top story of those those buildings. So, even with the six foot um block wall, at the angle, you won't be able to see the the one-story buildings.
Well, you you'll be able to see the the one-story buildings are actually adjacent to the roadway, so they actually act as a wall. So, if we go back and look at um this is a this is a good way to look at it. So, this is a one-story building. This is actually facing um this is facing um Case Road. And you and you can kind of see from Case Road the very top of that two-story building that's in the back. Oh yeah, I see that.
Yeah, you kind of get a glimpse of it back there. And so from the parking lot, this is the perspective from the parking lot um at the Beyond Mart. And so you're looking in, you know, you're you're looking adjacent, that's a building adjacent to the interior of the Beyond Mart. So, from this perspective, from the distance, you can't you don't even get a peekaboo view of the top of those twotory buildings. See if there's any other um Yeah, I think that's it. So, so just basically that right here. What? Whatever we seeing right here. So, basically that right there. Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah. Okay, perfect. Yes.
Um I also wanted to uh know I know there's an existing sidewalk on Get Road. I wanted to ask the applicant if for the sidewalk that's going to be put in on Case and Ellis. Um, will you be willing to add a uh a parkway, a landscape parkway? So, moving the sidewalk closer to your your project and having landscaping right on the edge of the street. I'll have to check with engineering. I don't know if we have the real state for that, but I'm okay with it if we have the real estate. I don't know the the width, but there will be sidewalk around the entire property and landscape. So, we'll chat with engineering if there's a room for it. Definitely. Okay, perfect. So, that's
Anthia, could you do us a favor? Could you put up the land the overall site plan that might show that area so we have a general idea or it whoever has access just to get a view of what that looks like. Um, I think it was I think it was the overall site plan. I don't know if the landscaping shows that, but I know the overall. Okay. Yeah. So, I basically just want to change the orientation of of the landscaping, having the sidewalk and then and then the landscape towards the street or on the edge of the street.
Okay. Okay. Okay. I think Yeah, I think the sidewalk is adjacent, right, Brad? Yeah, right now the sidewalk is on the on the street, right? The the the whole gets road corridor, it's actually right up next to curb and gutter, but that's something we could work with the applicant on and just move that sidewalk to the property line basically and have that little buffer with landscaping for case and Ellis, right? Yeah, for Case and Ellis. Are you What about Gets Road too? I mean, I know there's an existing sidewalk. I don't know if they're going to be replacing it. Is that No, the one in Gats is remaining. Is remaining. Okay. Yeah. So yeah, for case and Ellis at least those two would be perfect. We'll work with engineering. If it's doable, we'll be happy to do it. Perfect. Thank you so much.
Absolutely. Uh I have no further questions right now. Thank you.
I have a few more landscaping questions. Nothing bad. I promise. Uh I I do want to I you are like in compliance. You're way over. I know we have a no minimum, but the 21% I really really appreciate. Um, I was going through the um the plant list and I know that again you're in compliance with the city's plant pallet, but and so this is a question, but it's more of like a friendly ask. Um, this location's really interesting because it's about a one mile north from a a habitat conservation area, the the Senosinto watershed. I was curious if you would be amendable to possibly swapping some of the plants that you have that are non-natives to California natives. um wherever it would be like functionally, aesthetically, and um uh fiscally possible. Like I wouldn't want you to go crazy out of your way, but if it is possible to maybe work with staff to swap to some more California natives, would that be something you would be capable or interested in?
Absolutely. Just one issue though, a lock is very involved in the landscape because I know we had some restrictions in what we can and cannot use, but if it's possible, I'll be happy to add. Just don't give me names because I'm bad with landscape, but I'll accommodate for sure. That's fine. Yeah, absolutely. I just I'll be happy to do it. Thank you. Um, and I have another question. Are you um the proposed owner operator of the self- storage facility? Yes, we will be okay. And the gas station.
Okay, that's all the questions I have for right now, but thank you. I was waiting for my architect extraordinaire, but I guess he's drawing some questions. Um, some overall discussion stuff from staff. I don't have a problem with it, but um I think we did earlier, but I just wanted for the for the public record purposes. Uh one thing too, Calire was rather interesting and saying there'd be a cumulative impact on this project. I can't even imagine what the cumulative impact would be. Uh other than saying there's a gas station. So what would be the cumulative impact unless you talk about vehicles driving there to get gas? So that's a little comical to me that they would send something like this then say, "Oh, they can contribute." So, I just thought that was an interesting letter. Unless there's something they know that I don't know that um you're going to have vehicles at a gas station. So, you're going to have I mean unless you're talking thousand every hour. I mean, what other you don't have diesel trucks, you don't have hauler trucks. So, I'm not sure what uh now they are right in the sense that there'll be fire stations, but why would that be an issue here? Is is a question. It's just a question mark for me that it would send almost two pages of that. Um uh one of the things too we probably would have to change though considering how we do on this one is obviously the FAA has approved it lately. So we would probably may or may not need to change what this what COA to say that in lie of that it has been. So I don't know if that's something we should do that's a legal question that just take it out and just say not even have that there because they have approved it approved it. So, do we need to have that in as a condition of approval at all to stay there?
Mhm. It's not a problem if it remains in there because it's been complied with. So, it's kind of a moot point. But if you want to delete it, you can delete it. Which number was that? Cuz I'm um Did you just get it? Um I know. I saw it. I just don't remember what number.
It's condition number six in the planning conditions. Okay. And that's the COA for the COA, not the engineering. Okay. Okay. Number six. Okay. Okay. Since we have two letters here, since we haven't fully reviewed the letter, we should probably leave it in just in case because we don't know exactly what the letter says. We think based on initial review that it's been complied with, but since we haven't fully reviewed the letter and to confirm what it says, I think it's better just leave it in just in case.
Okay. Okay. But I know it's a big weight off. Okay. Um Okay. I'm going to go to the street movement. I'm not going to spend all day, but it's important to have some questions. I'm picking on the engineer day. engineer today like I usually do. You can leave now if you want. You sure you want me to bring it on? Okay. Um I want to go through some clarifications here. Now we have essentially three entrances. Well, one is a fire access. So two on Get Road, one is a fire access. And if you go back to that plan, um Yeah. Okay. Okay. Um, one is an fire access entrance. I believe um the the southernmost on Get Road is one that takes you in, but actually you have to go on Ellis Road to get in there to go past the office.
Correction, the one the southerntherly one and gets is for the RV park only. Okay. It's not a fire access. That's the only way you could get to the RV park. Okay. So, nothing else can go in that. Nothing else could go there. And the one on Ellis is the only one you go for the storage. Okay. But the office is also there. So we just be you have to be able to go to the office anyway. Correct. Okay. And the the one the northerly one in gets and the one in case are for the gas station in and out. Right. Right in right out. Both of them.
Right. Um clarify Mr. Engineer that Case Road obviously. Well no let's start with Gro the apartment the Hunt Apartments I think very nice too. They've been there a long time guys. Um there is you know what I'm going to go you know where I'm going with this right you can exit the hunt drive and right now you can pretty much go wherever you want to go. So we're proposing that a median be put there so they have to turn right also assumption that at LS you would have a signal to make a U-turn. So the beautiful thing about having a business on an arterial road is you have eyesight you have a lot of potential but
as time goes on and more traffic hits gets road just cumulative impacts of the city growing uh your that location is so close to case road with or without Mr. Alabass's project we would want to restrict left outs at that location anyways because that left turn onto Case Road going northbound that queuing needs to be backed up. So with or without this project, we'd be looking at restricting this left turn movement at some point. So, you know, they're coming in. Let's try to put that median in and remove that left out for the apartment complex. So, that's something the city's going to be tasked with to communicate that with them. But the beautiful thing about this project, too, they're building Ellis Avenue to the south.
So, there'll be more connectivity for these, you know, people that live in the apartments to get around the city. And there's a signal proposed at Ellis and Get Road there. Yes. Yeah, it's part of their conditions of approval. Okay. So that means a median would that be part I don't know if that's part of the conditions to put a center median in the engineering conditions. Is that there? Yes, it is. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Fortunately for you this the the city has to tell the res that conditions 5D talk about get road. You're right. You're right. 5 5e 5.
Okay. Just checking because you know Paris residents will drive over the median. We're crazy. Okay. So he you may have to put you know nails in the ground. We're notorious for doing things. Not me, of course. Yeah, right. U but we're notorious for doing things. So you wouldn't definitely stop that because they'll drive over it. We we'll just test it just for fun. We'll do it. But you know, okay. So need that needs to be stopped. then you can probably go down to Ellis and probably be able to do a U-turn to go back because in order to get in the gas station because you're cutting off that whole apartment complex, they'd have to go there or go right down to Paris Baller and go back north. Now, that's one reasonable direction. But if you want to go to the gas station, you'd have to go south uh and just come around. Obviously, we'd have to have a U-turn probability. Uh we're not talking about thousands of people coming out the hunt, but at least you know that is a business and it would be something that would at least benefit him. And they can go Ellis Boulevard. Uh and at Ellis intersection or case is a signal. So they can turn left there and go west.
Yes. Okay. Okay. And then yeah, we could look into making the signal at Getats and Ellis a U-turn for the southburn southbound movement. So people could get into the gas station. People from the apartments could go up north. But again, everyone exiting the apartments would have to get to that intersection of Gats and Ellis. Yeah. And then make the right, left through, or make the U-turn at that point. Okay. But again, this is just a cumulative effect. And over time, I mean, I'm sure the applicant would want full access at every driveway, but being along three arterials and being that close to major intersections, it's restricted to ride in, right out
and and really Case Road gets really narrow there. It really gets to be nothing saying it's bad. It's just if you turn and you know more than anyone else because you live down there, it's turning left and turning right at Case Road is not that bad now. But I think Ellis Avenue opening up as an arterial 94T or 128 whatever that would make a big difference. Now if you go Ellis Avenue, you still can turn left to go Case Road or turn right to go down Case Road. Um and we're not even going to talk about the Redlands intersection. There's nothing sometime in the near future. Uh, but the idea is that I want, you know, if we did approve this, we'd want access to it from different directions as long as it's not taking the residents way out. Or if you're coming other directions, you can come south and still go in from Ellis. Well, no, no, you'd have to take a U-turn to go back up. So, even if you come down Ellis Road, you could still get in there, but you'd have to go south, make a U-turn, and go back up. So, there's still a way to get into the gas station from those residents. Not a whole lot to the west, but I mean there's enough people there. Okay, that was my that was one of this one of the major questions. Um the other thing too, um I think it might have answered this already, but uh there are trees obviously on Ellis Avenue and I don't know if there's poles still there, electric poles. So obviously I know who you want to do it, but the idea is that they've been there for years. I don't know why, but there still probably if it was a farming or something, there was a windbreak. I'm assuming it's a windbreak. Nobody does farming down there in maybe 60 70 years. But I was just that that's something that would have to be literally considered to be removed. Um because I mean it would there's nothing now. And if you see planes flying right there and so the quick story on that,
you want to hear a quick story on those? Uh hopefully we get the project approved tonight and everybody's waiting for the approval of this project because those poles Brad knows well a part of the IDI project they're going to get undergrounded and we cannot underground him. We cannot cut the trees because if you cut the trees the poles become exposed for aircraft to hit him. So, I'm hoping in the next three months, actually, we're trying to meet the April 17 condition that council put out uh to open up portion of Alice, those streets should be down and the poles will be undergrounded. That's the goal. But it's in the works. It's approved by the city.
Okay? It's been there for years, guys. Even before I got here 36 years ago, it's been there. So, so I mean, you know, not that we hate trees, but come on. You know, pro progress. Let's put it that way. Progress. Okay. Uh I think um yeah, I think the question is this. I'm just stalling for you because I know you got a few jacks. So our architect here. So all yours.
I don't uh right now I only have about one. So uh I don't have much to say about the uh architecture of the building. So uh my only concern is with birds um and the maintenance of the property. I I know you take care your other properties are and they're relatively um clean that majority of all times, but my concern is especially with the airport, birds, pigeons um being around. So, I don't know if there's there's not much in there besides one note that says that the water must be drained within 48 hours. Um but elsewhere, you know, birds and pigeons will and other animals will be um scavenging for for foods and stuff. So, I don't know if there's anything we can add into there to request um a routine maintenance or or visual check. And if pigeons or anything or are landing on the building, something to deter them.
Um, there is a condition of approval uh from the Riverside County Airport Land use commission number 60 B3 which prohibit specific uses on the site. And one of them is a large concentration of birds um uh that could otherwise affect the air navigation within the area. So they are uh limited on what can be done on the property. So they have to maintain the property to be able to comply with alux conditions of approval. So if
Yeah. So but if there are an abundance of birds landing on Um, top of the buildings or top of the aprons, is there something we, you know, he could always put the spikes or whatever else, but that's some somewhat unsightly. There's the electric wire. I'm just wondering if there's something in there that if it is becomes a problem that um that there's that he needs to do something to deter the the birds from being there.
You could you could add a condition that's within your purview. I just wanted to let you know that the airport landes commission already included a condition uh prohibiting any use that would um that would trigger the over concentration of birds on site. Well, it the the design itself and the storage and and the convenience store prohibits that. But if by chance if there's birds that like the design of the building wants to uh
is it is your concern from the aircraft perspective that's what a we went to twice me and current to the airlock meeting and they're really very concerned about birds first of all Paris I don't think we have an issue with birds but they they have restricted the landscape so the certain trees that attract birds and the WQMP You can't just have open basins for WQMP. So there's restriction to discourage birds. You know, nowadays you can't shoot them, you can't hunt them. So
you know, I'm not saying that something has to be done now. I'm saying that if it does become an evident problem in a future where there's a mass gathering of birds or quite a bit, then something then has to be done. That's all I would think I would like to put in there. So, it's just as a precaution in the future, we'll be ready to do whatever the city has for us, but we do have weekly landscape and maintenance and check up on the props. As you see, all my properties in Paris, so we'll be happy to work with staff if there's anything that could be developed.
Yeah, a lot of the detractors of of pigeons and stuff is they like to feed on droppings and French fries and all that stuff. So, but I mean like I said, your your locations are pretty cleanly, so I'm not too worried about it, but I think it's such something more of a precaution for safety of everybody. Absolutely.
To piggy back on in Bleer, I think there's two examples in Paris and you have to really live here to know. Um, one of them is the one of the worst is EMWD. When you have rains, they have water sitting there and they complain about us. I think I need to go the other direction because there's every kind of bird in that water and it sits there as you see off Cage Road as you know what I'm talking about and they do nothing about it. And this is EMWD right then obviously we have on Paris Boulevard remote expressway uh east of that um I think it's a Shell car wash. It's the second leg Paris. So I think the real question is drainage. So the drainage is probably what it's referring to. Not so much that but drainage water will attract. So then it's not so much that wholesome order and not attract birds. I think is in essence would it be those concrete like you do with industrial the contract where that would drain into somewhere. I'm not sure where this would drain into but the water quality basin just can't reset. You have to have something to absorb that water and it would go into pipes somewhere. Well that's the question. You don't want water sitting there. Where would it drain to get road case road?
Right. So, they have a water quality basin on site and then that water would find its way to a storm system along Ellis Avenue. Okay. Actually, if I may add to that,
the public work contract I'm doing now for the city, we installed a new pipe from Sanento River all the way. We're going to connect it to get road bunch of catch basins. If you drive by Ellis, which was always dirt road there's been an open channel that collects nothing but mosquitoes and birds. That's going to go away. So with this project adding the stone drain system that we're going to capture all the water from gets it goes all the way straight into pipe 48 inch pipe all the way to sun center. So we are eliminating part of the problem that exists now. So all it will be all in pipes. I think that's more what you're alluding to the because the water will will it always does attract birds and of course it's an airport vicinity so that becomes a concern even up north you can't have any lakes or anything but that must be the concern you know think harvest could have let a lake but that's another project no excuses for that one but anyway that's I think that's probably more alluding to that obviously put signs but if water does not drain out in an adequate period of time you have the the parish I mean a remote expressway uh northwest port where it becomes a lake. I can go swimming in there. That's how deep it is. I mean it's really bad guys and that's what trying to avoid because there's no drainage because there's no development. So you know but anyway I think that's more what you know and it is it is in 60 um E the bottom paragraph at least some illusion to it. So would you want more wording in 60E because it says that 48 hours and not attract birds and proper maintenance is necessary avoid
that's the part I read. My concern is if it if it does become a problem in the future where the birds are hanging out on the eaves and stuff like that and in abundance um then something can be done at a later um phase if it's more of an issue. So yeah I adding a condition of approval would be okay with me. You can certainly add a condition of approval requiring the applicant to um properly maintain the property to avoid overconentration of birds.
We'll send them to EMWD. Like Commissioner Hammond said, there's a lot of birds there. I go by every day. Okay. Yes, sir. I I wanted to possibly add in a condition of approval that in the event of an ownership change with the self- storage facility that and then in in the event that this is approved today um that the architecture and the color scheme remains as was approved um in in today's meeting. But I I I didn't know if I should say that for discussion. The self storage is cinder block. It's not something you're going to be painting. So, and if anybody wants to paint it in the future, they supposed to get a permit from planning. So, but I'm okay with that because we don't intend to do that.
Okay, that was really my last question. And just for clarification, the conditional use permit runs with the land and any other property owner would have to comply with the conditions of approval. We also have condition of approval number um number nine uh which reads uh to the conformance of the approved plans um uh that the development is to be uh consistent with the approved plans as approved by the planning commission on today's meeting. Thank you. That helps a lot.
Okay. Um just a basic question I think um you would be oper you would be operating the beyond mart because it's kind of a chain you thought so you would be operating it or would someone be operating if we chose it? We actually just switched the one on Ethan if you're familiar with our Shell station there that you approved years ago. A few months ago, we converted to Beyond. That was our first one. And we converted the one in the county of Riverside in Winchester Road in Highway 74 beyond. That's the second one. And the one coming up in a minute in front of you, we're building one at the Deca property is a third beyond. This will be our fourth. So, yes, we'll be operating it. Okay. So, it's franchised out that you can Okay.
Correct.
Oh, I didn't realize. Okay. That's it for me. Okay. Okay. We close public hearing and go to public comment. Is there any public comment on this particular agenda item? And then if one has public comment, they're welcome to come forward to the podium and address the planning commission for three minutes and state your name. Anyone in the public? I know it's one family. Anyone in the public wishing to address the planning commission on this particular agenda item? Seeing none, we close the public comment portion and come to the planning commission for any discussion, analysis. H uh I know that this uh this uh particular project is zoned under employment plaza um which I really would have loved to see get built out and see what the potential of that zoning would have been but I understand with the restrictions and regulations of a look um it's just um completely impossible to to fulfill that that zoning. So um what's presented today I think is possibly the best option for what what we can do there. Um, it's not a warehouse or anything. So, um, and I I love the uh the uh the the uh architecture of it as far as the the coloring and the the type of uh material that's being used. I love the warm tones that are being used. Um, I feel like it's going to be timeless and modern for, you know, for many decades. Um, I appreciate the applicant's uh willingness to give us 21% landscaping. Um, and uh and also the two signalized intersections on Ellis Avenue, which is something that's definitely needed for that area and it's going to improve circulation uh on the south side of Paris. Um, so I do appreciate that uh
the applicant is bringing that to this project. Um uh the only condition I want to add is is the sidewalk uh uh landscape uh parkway. Um if that's something that we can add. Uh I have no no issues with this project and um that's that's it. I want to re reiterate um I recognize the limitations and I I agree um that this is one of the probably the best use that this little triangular difficult piece of land could have been. Um I really appreciate you bringing us um like like he said not a warehouse and I think this is a really really great um usage of that land. Um again not a condition of approval or anything. I know you are very much under a lot of scrutiny with ALOC. Um, if at all those plants could be moved towards more California native, I would absolutely love that, but it's not like a condition of approval. Um, I agree. I really like the the architecture as well. Thank you for not going bright orange or or similar colors. I think that was my my primary concern is that some storage facilities tend to have some really loud colors and I I really enjoy the color scheme that is presented today. Um, beyond that, I don't have any concerns. I I like this project. I think you've done the most with what you have had to work with and um I I I like it. So, thank you. Yeah, I understand the limitations of the the site in using the storage and facility and the convenience store um with gas station is well suited for the space. So, I think it's uh well suited u
will be well received and uh don't have much of anything bad to say about it at all. Um, and it will serve the community well. Uh, especially with the new additions of all all the new construction going down on the south side. So, be well suited and architectures did a well good job. So, no problem.
Yes. Thank you for the presentation staff and developer who I've known a long time. We both got great hairs after all that, right? Um, and I appreciate you got some future commissioners there. Hopefully. Um, one of the things too, I think that corner has been for years, even before you got there, Jack, there's been basically nothing going on but the trees and the poles. I mean, that was basically it. Uh, and um, there's not much a whole lot you can do. And I think Beyond Mart is a known commodity. That's one thing. You know, this is something in that area. There's absolutely nothing else. You'd have to go way over to 7-Eleven, way over to Union 76 for gas station. And this serves the community at that corner. that is reasonable. Um, and it's not a budding egg residential. There's a lot of space in those apartments that are wellmaintained. They're probably back in the 60s7s, but they're wellmaintained. So, that's still a buffer there. So, there wouldn't be anything. Certainly, I could care less about CRNR. I mean, you need a buffer from that from them, right? But, and I've been in that plant, too. But, I think that's not really an issue. I think one of the things considerations I'll bring it up in amendments is um some traffic signals really what sells this because you have to have some traffic and allow the residents there because none of them have complaints to be able to come and make that U-turn would make a big difference because um residents tend to complain about small things and why the commission didn't say well we're saying something okay so going down to Ellis and coming back up which I do a lot for in that area if I go down I'll just turn left and go up that street is not really a bad big deal. So there's really no problems. There wasn't from the beginning. I know the hassle was trying to get this Department of Aviation, whatever that was with CalR and FAA and all these other ones to sign off. It was just bureaucratic red tape. That's all it is. Um but they all have to have positions. And I used to work for government. I can say this. Everybody has to have positions. So we have to do something. Sorry, but come me. I'm retired. I don't care. But that's what happened. So we
got through that hurdle. And I think that was the major concern was just getting through that hurdle. So, I'm done. I think um the car wash, the colors, the scheme, the landscaping, and I'll me I'll mention that stuff um should we decide to go on through. Um but I think I'm fine with it. You know, that's really heavy material there, too. I barely hold on to it. But, um quality and we know you do quality stuff in the city. So, I'm I don't even have a problem with that. You know, there's a whole bunch of people. No, no, you're not going to get that because you know the quality projects. So when you have quality, this is what happens, you know. Um unless there are any other questions. Okay. Uh let me read this since it's brief. I'll just go and read it. Why not? Um and then we'll go through the amendments which I'll get help with. Anything else, Brad? I think I covered it all. Right. Okay. Of course, I'm going to miss something. So, you know, request adopt resolution 26. Thank you, Mr. Evans. We appreciate it. Okay. Went easy on you tonight. We're not going to do that again. Okay. Resolution 26-01 adopting mitigated negative decoration 2407 and the mitigation monitoring and reporting program and approved condition use permit 24-0560 and development plan review 24-00001 facilitate the construction of a 138,672 foot self-s storage facility a 5,974t convenience store beyond food mart with a drive-thru and an auxiliary vehicle fueling station and a 1,667 foot automated car wash based on the findings contained herein and subject to condition of approval. And we have a few corrections. Condition number 46. I think we had to delete um North Paris and just say community facilities district or appropriate for whatever the wording is that will suffice. district um engineering condition number 5C full
access as opposed to what it states now the corrupt red line it and have full access right chair Hammond before you move past uh condition of approval number 46 there was another change on that one that one that our planning manager had mentioned um regarding the timing of annexation oh okay so as she oh building permit yeah prior to grading permit building permit or okay, final map recordation, whichever occurs first.
It tells you I can't read my own writing, right? Okay. Um Oh, and your proposal that uh landscaping being considered on Case and Ellis Road to increase the park at a parkway at a parkway for Commissioner Lopez and Chair Hammond. I just want to get clarification. Is that a formal condition of approval or is that work with staff and that kind of thing? uh work with engineering if it's if it's applicable staff informal. Okay. Yeah.
Commissioner Lopez, so I did reread our conditions 5E and 5F. We have 6 foot wide sidewalk located at property line for Ellis Avenue and Case Road. And you know, you've made these comments in the past and we made sure that condition was in there per your previous comments on previous projects. So, it's already in there. Awesome. Thank you so much. No problem. And that was included case and Ellis, right? Yes. Yes. gets road though the sidewalk would remain at the curb and gutter just because it's already in place. Yeah.
Okay. Okay. The other thing too I think was insur and engineering that there's a center median on get to prevent left out. Left out and left in left turn in okay on get road. But I think the median I'm not sure if the median was there to to Yes. So 5D for gets road if you look at the second bullet down in the engineering it's stating a 14 foot wide raised median hardscape median shall be installed the median shall restrict left outs from the property to the west which would be the apartment complex. Okay. Okay. So yeah so we don't have to mention that just from the property to the west. Yes.
Okay.
Okay. Okay. Um also um Commissioner Manz had mentioned this is not a condition of approval that work with staff concerning use of California native plants uh for that area because we know I don't just like any other but California native is some one of the things that always mentioned that using California native plants I'm not sure if public works does that uh mentions that but I don't remember singing but California native plants is one of those things that obvious I should say Paris the desert Right. So, at least look into that. I don't think there's that to be specific, but that's just an administrative thing. Um, I think I covered Yeah, I think did it was something about requirement number six, but that's if a new ownership came and that's standard language. If new ownership took over that, they would have to adhere to whatever conditions. And I'm not looking at number six. I think it was number six that you'd mentioned. Uh
yeah, we we I I I think we agreed to just leave it there, right? As opposed to removing it just to make sure that all the conditions of approval required by the FAA are satisfied.
Okay. In in the event that the owner would change, which I doubt, but okay. Wow. Things happen. Okay. Did I catch it all? I think I did. So, um, for number nine, uh, which Commissioner Menz mentioned, I just want to get clarification that that's just, um, that's not formally a change to the condition of approval in regards to maintaining the current color scheme. It's just a informal kind of directive or do you want to add that to condition number nine and say it must keep the current color scheme? I was under the impression that it was already covered with the language as is, but if it's not, then then yes, I would like to add it. But if it is already covered, then it it's fine. Yeah, I I believe it is. Uh it reads, "Development of the project site, building elevations, and conceptual landscape plan should conform substantially to the plans approved by the planning commission on March 4, 2026."
That that sounds sufficient to me. Thank you. It says any deviation shall require appropriate planning division consideration. So you're okay with that? Okay. Yes. And then we had the condition of approval for chair Hammond. The condition of approval about maintaining the property to avoid a concentration of birds. Have you did you mention that one? And I would add to the satisfaction of the planning division for that one. um additional or just add the wording to well that condition that was being referenced does mention birds and it does mention that was an al condition though so we wouldn't change their condition right but we could add our own condition that says
maintain the property so as to avoid a concentration of birds to the satisfaction of the planning division something like that like a new condition that would be added to the end of the planning division conditions that would be okay Uh number I think it would need to be number 55 and then renumber the rest after that unless our planning manager it should be under operational conditions
which which number would that
operational conditions start at 51. So it could be 55 and then the the remaining conditions will be reumbered. Okay. Okay. Makes sense. Okay. I think I covered as much as I could think. Okay. Okay. And with that, uh, we looking for a motion to adopt this project. Okay, Vice Chair Shiveley has moved and seconded by Commissioner Lopez.
Commissioner Menz, yes. Commissioner Lopez, yes. Commissioner Advisor Shley, yes. Sher Hammond, yes. with a vote 5 to zero and one option. This motion is approved. 4 to zero.
Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Okay. And with that, we move on to planning commission agenda. Meet number I item 6B, conditional use permit. And I'm going to read this. Conditional use permit 25-000010 and public convenience and necessity determination 26-00001. Approal to allow an alcohol license type 20 off sale beer and wine for off-site consumption at an approved not yet constructed constructed 6,650T convenience store with a fueling station and car wash on 1.68 68 acres within an overconentrated sentencing track located at 3945 Ramon Expressway on the southwest corner of Ramon Expressway and Webster Avenue in the commercial zone of the Paris Valley Commerce Center specific plan. The applicant Corine Mustad requested action. I'll only read it once. is adopt resolution number 26-06 finding that the project was previously evaluated in the certified environmental impact report in accordance with SQA guideline sections 15162 that no additional environmental review is required and that the project is exempt from further SQA review pursuant to SQA guidelines section 15301 existing facilities and approved conditional use permit 25-000010 and public convenience opinions or necessity determinist 2600001 to allow a type 20 alcohol license off sale beer and wine for off-site consumption at the approved not yet not constructed convenience store subject to findings of and conditions of approval
set forth in resolution. Is there any exparte communication, any ad hoc committee or site visits? I drive near the site uh uh by the site uh quite frequently.
Okay. Uh drive by quite a bit. Very familiar. Thank you. All yours.
Okay. Good evening, Mr. Chair and planning commissioners. My name is Monica Karansa, and today I will be presenting the alcohol license type 20 for offsell of beer and wine for Beyond Mart. So, a little bit of background. Um, in 2023, the city council approved a conditional use permit to develop the project side with a convenience store, a fueling station, and a car wash as part of the shopping center for the Ramona Gateway DECA project, which is currently under construction. The project side is located at the southwest corner of Ramona Expressway and Webster Avenue. It's currently surrounded. Um, uses include uh vacancy to the north um with a proposed commercial development, the Paris Gateway. To the east, we have a vacant uh entitled for an an vacant parcel entitled for an industrial development. To the south, we have the industrial development uh accompanied with the DECA project. And to the west is the commercial shopping centers with Starbucks um as part of the DECA project as well. The land use for this project site is in the Paris Valley Commerce Center specific plan in the commercial zone which does allow for alcohol sales of upsite consumption with the cup. As you can see here, these are the existing conditions of the project. Um, you have a view facing south southeast along Ramona Expressway. You also have a another view at the corner of Ramona Expressway and Webster looking onto the project site. The site is located on census track 4 to 6.25 which according to the California Department of Alcohol Beverage uh and
control ABC. It allows for a maximum of three offsite licenses. Currently there are 12 licenses in the census track which means there is an overconentration of ABC alcohol licenses per Paris municipal code section 19.54 um an overconentration requires a determination of public convenience or necessity approved by planning um commission. The proposed type 20 will add a license um an additional license for type 20 um adding the number to 13 licenses. The concentration of ABC licenses are along Paris Boulevard as you can see on this map and to the south of the track where all the commercial shopping centers are located. Um the the project was routed to the sheriff's department and they had no comments or concerns regarding the the proposed project. The alcohol cells um shall comply with distance requirements as required per section 19.65. Um as you can see here um the there is a 1,00 ft radius um for sensitive uses such as schools. The project site complies with that. Uh the closest sensitive uh receptor is 1,500 ft which is a Balberty High School to the south. It also has a requirement for a half a mile radius from any existing approved miniart service station. However, the the code does allow or exempt the distance requirement uh such as that um that miniar service station close proximity as long as it complies with u the findings on that chapter. So, the location shall not impact sensitive
receptors. The traffic increase will not um create potential hazards. The establishment will not enforce any um issues with uh police and the development shall conform to all code required. The 1.68 acres project side was develop uh was approved and will be developed with the following. It will have a car wash, a convenience store, and a fuel canopy. Access to the site will be along Ramona Expressway and Webster Avenue. Once constructed, okay, there it is. So, once constructed, um alcohol items will be located as shown on the floor plan. We will have um wine and the wine will be displayed where along this red area and the beer will be in the coolers on this area right here. In total, the wine will account for 1% of the sales floor area and 6.3% of the floor sales area totaling 7.3. Alcohol sales are limited to 6 a.m. to 6:00 a.m. per ABC. Uh the site will have security cameras and the applicant will provide additional training and safety uh to the employees that will be on site. The project was previously evaluated in the original SQA environmental impact report um in accordance with the SQA guidelines under section 15162 that no additional environmental review is required because we're not proposing any modifications to the site. Additionally, the project is categorically exempt from the California SQUA guidelines pursuant to section
15301 of existing facilities um as it involves nigible or no expansion of the use without the per no purpose of modifying the site. The project was noticed to the required 300 ft um applicant uh I mean residents in the area. Um no comments were received. To conclude, Stafford commence planning commission adopt um the approval of this project um based on the resolution um and the determination for public convenience or necessity allowing the convenience store beyond food mart and an alcohol license type 20 for the sales of beer and wine of off-site consumption. based on the findings here mentioned and on the resolution and conditions of approval. Uh this concludes staffer presentation. It it's open to any questions you might have. The applicant is here as well if you have any questions. Um thank you.
Thank you very much. Appreciate it. It says the applicant is Karen Mustad, but I take it Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Wait a minute. Okay. Um, at this time, does the I'm sure you do, but the applicant have any um presentation that you'd like to make at this time. Karen is offended. She does all the work and I told her this one. She can put her name on it.
But this is more of operational issue actually. It's for my wife. Just a quick comment on the overconentration. We inherited this project from DECA. So, I wasn't involved in it. And typically they would include beer and wine when they submit. Uh like uh the planner said most of the existing licenses on Paris Boulevard. So they really don't impact us. And this commission two weeks ago or last month I think it was approved one more gas station across the street Maverick that was going to have beer and wine. The applicant didn't like that. He wanted two of them. Unluckily council shut it down. So there goes that license. So having one more here should not really impact much. But I appreciate you approving this because really having the license is a must. It's a necessity. Nobody's going to drive from Tmacula to come buy beer from my gas station. But if somebody stops, they really want to have that beer and wine. We have one station out of the nine we own in Lumalinda that do not have beer and wine. And our sales are about 30 to 40, maybe even 50% less than our other sites because not having the beer and wine will impact the performance of that facility. Uh thank you. And if you have any question, I'll be happy to answer it.
Oh, sure. I think my wife now is offended. She wants to say hello. Hello. I'm Elizabeth. I want to let you know that since 1998, we've been operating gas stations. Right now, we have 321s, which is hard liquor offsite, and we have 520s already. We have never had a violation all those years. Knock on wood. I will not sell to miners. We usually close, we try to close and lock our coolers by 10 p.m. And then we ID um the customer first before we get the beer out for them. Thank you.
And correction to Monica, it's 6:00 a.m. 2 a.m. Not 6:00 a.m. You cannot sell after 2 a.m. So, uh no, 6:00 a.m. in the morning. You cannot sell past 2 a.m. Yes. So, 2 2 a.m. in the morning, we shut down selling any alcohol. I think your presentation showed six by mistake. Yeah. Yeah, you have to to two. Some states it might change to three, but Okay. Okay. Any questions? I think it was stated uh I think she said 6 to 6, but um it's in the documented 6 to 2 a.m.
Uh yeah, I just had one clarify uh clarifying question. So, I know the sheriff's department didn't have any comments or concerns. Um, but and ABC, just to make sure, ABC doesn't have any problems issuing this license so long as the commission is okay with it. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Just a quick question. Um, take about a thousand mile res radius. Um, there are residents on Webster uh by your station, other station. So that's beyond the 1,00 ft from this. Mhm. Sensitive receptors count as parks, schools, or churches. Okay. They're not residential units.
You're kidding. For our code, though, that's what sensitive receptors are.
I might have to change that. Yeah, I know. For licensing, well, you're going to be next to residents. You might have an issue. But uh Okay. I was just wondering because sensitive receptors and other things are considered residents, but not for for this. Okay. So if you live next to it, you can trickle. Well, you want to who cares? That's very interesting. Okay. Um yeah, this is that was the only question basically. I think we um initially I don't know. There was a lot of things planned for that on that south side, but I didn't I figured a gas station would be one of those things that would be a consideration. So, okay. I wasn't sure, but okay. But I thought I don't know why I didn't think sensitive receptors if you go north over Webster. But okay. Um other than that there's not much to say. I think um the hours 6 p.m. to 2 a.m. Okay. And another be it's a beyond mart. So that's a trade something well known. Um and I think car wash and the other things. Um no I can see the diagram now. Okay. Okay. Okay. I think that's it for me unless you guys have anything. There's really not much much for this one. Okay. Requested action obviously is adopt resolution well 2026-06 finding that the project was previously evaluated certified environmental impact report in accordance with SQA guidelines 15162 that no additional environmental review is required and that the project exempt from further SQA review pursuant to guidelines of 15301 existing facilities an approved conditional use permit 25-000010 and public convenience or necessity Determination 26-00001 to allow a type 20 alcohol license off sale beer and wine for off-site
consumption at approved yet not constructed convenience subject to finding some of approvals set forth in the resolution. There were no additional amendments or additions to this. So we do we have a motion to approve this project? Commissioner Lopez has moved it seconded by Commissioner MZ. Commissioner Menz, yes. Commissioner Lopez, yes. Vice Chair Shley, yes. Sher Hammond, yes.
With a vote five to four to zero, this motion is approved. Thank you very much. It's been your night tonight. We can drag it on if you want. Thank you so much. Okay,
at this time we move to item seven, public comments. Anyone wishing to address the planning commission regarding items not on the agenda may do so at this time. Please walk up the podium and wait for the chairperson to recognize you. And each speaker will be given three minutes to address the planning commission. I see a city employee out there. You can still talk if you want to. No. Okay. Seeing none, we will close the public comment portion and move on to item eight, business items, in which there are no business items. We move on to item nine, commission updates and announcements.
Uh, I have no announcements. I just want to wish everyone a good night and a safe drive home.
I do have one quick announcement. I saw on the city marquee on my way here that the annual pets on parade will be Oh, look at that. Uh the third annual Pets on parade will be happening this Saturday at 10 a.m. Um I saw it and my heart skipped a beat. So, if you um go look for me and my poor scared Chihuahua Winston. Um beyond that, I wanted to say happy almost spring. Um, and kind of related to that, I wanted to maybe put it on the radar or um, I know I harp a lot on bringing in more more California natives and I just wanted to maybe speak it out to I don't know the exact process, but if if we could somehow take a look at the city plant pallet and maybe work to um to start moving things over. I I know it's it's a really big ask. So, I would definitely be be able to, you know, do a lot of the leg work and and put a lot of the the the manpower into that, but I think it would be a really really important um thing to do, especially with our proximity to the Santa wershed, Lake Paris. um we have lots of land and I think um and lots of developments, great developments coming in that I think could really benefit from California natives. So, I just wanted to put that on the radar. Um and again, offer myself up as as free labor, you know, if that's, you know, an issue at all. Um and beyond that, just have a good night.
Well, you got me at free labor anytime you need to. Um, well, I was going to bring up the uh PetSon parade, uh, but she got beat me to it. Um, I do have a question for Patricia. Um, when a commercial building decides to paint their exterior of the building, I'm sure it's administrative.
Yes. Uh, I just want to see if the Paris car wash has been has applied for the administrative permit for that. I think it's 2131A Paris Street, I think it is. We can certainly look into that and get back to you. The orange colored, they have a choice. It's bright, but you know, it definitely catches eyes, but I just want to make sure they've done it properly. Patricia doesn't sound look doesn't look familiar with it. So, Oh, really? I don't. So, you can't you can't not miss it. Yeah.
Um but we can certainly look into it and let you know if um the appropriate um approvals have been obtained. Um, not always do property owners know that when they change color, they have to come to the city for an administrative approval. So, but we'll we'll look into that for sure. Um, other than that, that's all I have.
Yes. And thank you. Um, and I appreciate especially Monica. Thank you, Monica. We were nice to you tonight. Okay. Don't get used to it. We can be uh we're in a good mood tonight. So that's okay. Um I should announce them again. I missed it last night, but I didn't bring the flyer. But every fourth Saturday, I think on D Street from 5 to 8:00 p.m. I missed it because I was tired. I couldn't even I wouldn't even walk there, but they have something over at um on D Street. That's like a fair members market, open space, vendors, things like that. So I will be going in the future. Um but I think it's been advertised as the fourth Saturday. Second thing I did, I went to the um trade the technical center uh and somebody was in who recognized me. I said, "What's going on? Do you have a brochure?" He said, "Well, they're still working on things." I think um Oh, what is it? Proctor and Gamble has some training courses going, but I'm trying to work on them. You know, if we have a flyer, give it out. They're just not really ready completely for that yet. But the guy was sitting there at lock door. I told the planning commissioner, he still opened the door. I don't know why. By commissioner, you don't open the door. Why would you do that? But he did. So he let me in. So I'm I'm going to be, you know, how I bother people. I never bother you, Brad, right? But I said, you know, come on. What's going on? And you're going to see me again. So you might as well, you know, but it's a very beautiful center. We both visited. We know it's beautiful in there, so we want to, you know, where's the brochure? I'm just waiting. So there, they're still working on stuff like that. Um, I think I did mention there's two things I think bring up. you're talking about. I think it could be a session. Uh maybe even public works might be brought. There's three things. Three things. The session on native plants. I know the city probably has a landscaping planter that I know public works use because they always tell us what plants to use and we ignore it. But they I'm pretty sure they're going by something. So it might be something coincide with them and make a presentation and and you can see if they work with that. But that's
would be a good presentation because we're going to have a lot of time. Um this the other thing I think too is obviously an update on what's going on in the city. Target is going crazy there. The park city park is going people are begging when are you going to I don't know how would I know go west the city you know but they're asking questions guys they want this stuff. I'm not even talking about Harvest Landing are killing us for thousands of emails. Enough of those. They finally stopped. But um I mean people are interested. There's more people in the city. There's intersection issues that you might want to have a separate meeting on. Um but it's going to be a major issue for traffic. These people are expecting it. They're expecting it tomorrow. I said that's not the way it works. Okay. It's called permits. No, we want it tomorrow. It's not going to happen like that. But you can't tell people that to them. Get it done. Get it done. Okay. So, I understand the excitement is there. All this stuff is here. We got projects coming in. But where these things are, there's a lot going on. Even the Busby thing, I think they're putting a net around it. Where are they at with this? So things like that. Where's Target going to open? When's the park going to open? When's this going to do? I will say the park, I think it's copyright with that long mural. It's been kept clean. I haven't seen any mural any graffiti on that one. Ferguson is another story. Somebody's always putting graffiti on the Ferguson warehouse thing. They just they can't help it. I guess it's open space. I'd put some traps in front, but that would be illegal. But you know, there's somebody's always doing something there. Lastly, you know where I'm going with this, right, Patricia? little land use and zoning thing. One of these days we'll get to that one. I think it would be very beneficial as we're going to the League of California next week. You know, I would love to say City Paris has it. No one else does. But, um, it's it might be important whenever there's time. Uh, like you were volunteering yourself. We got it on record, too. I already volunteered my myself and we'll be done. So, I think that's it. And now we move to the director of planning managers updates
and announcements. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um I do want to report that the landscaping along the um Novo Street frontage um uh at the Paris the Plaza is getting refurbished. Uh so it was really good to see that. I know you've been asking for it for a while and it's finally happening. So um I want to say it may be tied to bringing Target to that center. Uh but it's it's going to look beautiful. So, um we're looking forward to seeing that completed finally.
Um we will also be bringing to you a projects update um to give you uh and not only you but the community an update on where projects are at um so they can have a better idea um what's happening in Paris because there's a lot happening in Paris right now. Um thank you for your um suggestion. uh you did go on record. So we will take your your free labor. Um uh we we can work together uh collaborate with other departments uh because uh we have public works who um and engineering who also help with the um off-site landscaping improvements. Uh planning does the on-site landscaping. So I think a collaboration between departments and and your expertise is going to be grateful great greatly appreciated. um and and help um in bringing more California native planting into the plant materials that we already have in our specific plans and the zoning code and and other um documents that we use for offsite landscaping. So, thank you for that. Um and yes, I do uh have that in mind. So, we we will be working with you, Mr. Chairman, on um bringing together a workshop for uh the planning commission on planning 101.
See, I already volunteered my body. And now you have to volunteer yours. Okay. Um, as far as events go, um, we do have Take a Hike at Lake Paris on March 14th, um, from 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. at, uh, and it's it's going to be a a good four mile hike, so come prepared. Uh, with respect to upcoming uh, meetings, uh, on March 18th, um, we do have, um, one project. Uh, we're going to be presenting to you a proposed banquet hall at an existing shopping center. And that's all I have to report.
Okay. Thank you very much. And with that, without further ado, unless you guys have anything, thank you staff, the good work that you do. And that includes the attorney, too. No, no. Thank you staff. Thank you. We And that's why she came in and said, "Get off the board." Okay. All I need is that look, right? And I thought you were going to sing for us. You're just going to give me the look, right? Okay. Okay. Anyway, thank you very much everyone. Thank you to the public. We certainly look forward to that park opening as it said. There's a lot of progress being made over there. So, there's a lot of excitement in Paris, guys. You know, things are happening. So, we're going to hear about that. Okay. With that, we have an adjournment. Just pick a name because I can motion it. Anybody can second it. We're all going to agree unless you're out of your mind, but we're all going to agree. And with that, we close. Thank you to the public.
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