Planning & Zoning Board - Regular Meeting

Call the April 10 meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board to order. General, would you please call the roll?

Yes, sir. Member Lloyd? Present. Member Doris Gonzalez? Here. Member Labbe? Here. Vice Chairman Goldich?

Here.

Chairwoman Gonzalez? Alternate member Taylor? Alternate member Zacharias?

Here.

We have a quorum. Tonight, alternate member Zacharias will be the voting member.

Mr. Chairman, I make a motion that we waive Chairperson Gonzalez's absence. I understand she's not feeling well tonight. Waive her presence. I second my If that's the appropriate word, I think it's not. But whatever we're supposed to say, Cheryl.

They've excused absence, but we usually do that at the end of the meeting. It's Okay. If you already put that motion out there, I can put that into

the minutes this

way. Motion

by Lavat

Member Lavage, second by Member Gonzalez.

All in favor? Aye. Got it. Perfect.

All right. Anybody have any disclosure forms? No. No? No. Good. Okay. Need a motion to accept the minutes from the March 20 meeting.

I so move.

I'll second that.

Motion by Member Labatt to accept the minutes and seconded by Member Gonzales. All in favor? Aye. All right, moving along. Okay, so we have the consent agendas.

Does anybody want to pull anything on those three consent agendas? Any of them?

No? No, no.

So I need a motion to approve all three item one, two, and three consent agendas since nobody wants to poll them.

I move that we accept the items one, two, and three on the consent agenda.

I'll second the motion. Motion

by Member Labatt, seconded by Member

Aloha. Aloha.

Okay. All in favor? Aye.

What's that? Motion passed. Oh, Okay. Right. Moving along. Give me one second. I got to turn my page. Sorry. Okay. So anybody that was on those three items was Chang's Malibu Bay and La Villa Condominiums. If you're here, we already approved your stuff. So have a good night.

That was easy.

You're welcome.

Thank you.

All right. Item are we good? Oh, sorry. We have quasi judicial items. Do we need to anybody need to we swear anybody in for these? Do we need to?

Mr. Chair, if I may.

Yes. Thank you. Yeah, if anyone in the audience here is intending to speak on items four, five, six, and seven. Now is your time to please stand and be sworn in. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Let the record show that everyone has answered in the affirmative. Thank you, Mr.

Chair. Thank you. First one is item number four is 13 Hundred North University. Application is ZV2025-one, minimum parking spaces. You're asking for a variance from 48 to 23. Excuse

me. Can you please state your name?

Thank you.

Yes. So I don't know if you're familiar with this space. It's where Humberto's used to be for years.

Right.

Okay. It functions a long time as it was. Some tenants came in afterwards.

Excuse me. Speak into

the mic so Oh, I'm sorry.

It's Okay. Move it down.

There you go. There

you go.

All right. Some tenants came in, they made some modifications. So it lost its original parking that was there. Now they're requiring it to be brought to the current code, which really is impossible with the square footage of the building along with the lot. I'm looking to put an Italian restaurant, primarily takeout delivery and catering. But there will be some foot traffic and dine in as well. In order to do that, I have to get past the parking hurdle. And of course, with that, it'll come bringing the building, beautifying it.

Great. I'm familiar with it. I think we all are with that particular parking lot. Does any of the members have any questions for

the How long has the would you know how long that has been empty?

So the previous tenants were forced closed because they did some stuff that wasn't on the up and up. And that was in 2023. So I was actually looking at the property in 2021, cause I had a business in Miami to relocate up here. But I missed the opportunity, and now I'm back revisiting it, which of course a lot of problems that come along with it. Hence why I'm here.

Anybody else? Any other members have

any questions? To staff, is it feasible to have the 48 balcony spots there? I mean, I sort of don't Is there room for that?

There's no room for the 48 parking spaces given the improvements that they have to make on the site.

Okay.

Anybody else? Any other discussion?

How many employees do you have? Will you plan to have?

Probably three. Three? Yeah. At one time in the facility. Two of the guys actually car they get Ubered. They don't have licenses. And then another guy carpools.

Being that I'm familiar with it, just a little bit of discussion. The building's been there for a very long time. It's a very limited area, very limited parking. So there's really not a whole lot they can do. They can do, yeah.

Anybody else? No. Okay, so I need a motion to accept that item, ZV2025.

I'll I'll make the motion to accept it.

Motion A,

B, or C? A, B, and C.

You have to Yes. To accept A, B, and C.

Which one?

A, B, or C. One or either A, B, or C.

That would be A, B, or C, right?

C. Here.

There's no more C. Okay.

I'm sorry. Probably C. Yes. So I will move for C, please. And

seconded by Second. Member Labatt?

Thank you so

much. All

in favor? Aye.

Aye. Motion passed. Thank you. Okay, then moving on to your parking islands. Agenda item five, which is ZV2025-six, the interior parking items. You're asking for a variance to cut down from 10 feet to six and onetwo feet for those Correct. Now you talk about the end islands on those

On the ends of the parking leases.

On the south side of the building?

Yes.

Right? Do you guys

I don't have any questions. Understand the need for it.

Do want have any discussion, members.

So the second is to make the island smaller?

Yes.

Yes. Okay.

That's also due to your parking, right?

Correct. In order to fit the 23 spaces, the islands have

to be Okay.

Good. Anybody have any questions to ask on No. Member Zacharias? No. Have my question. Raising your hand. So hearing and seeing, anybody want to make a motion to accept that? Or you're still looking? Okay.

I move that we accept the variance request under section C.

Okay. I second. GREGORY Motion made by Member Lavaugh, seconded by Member Zacharias.

GREGORY All in favor? GREGORY Motion passed.

GREGORY Thank you very much.

All right. Walmart. Okay, so this is item number six. Walmart's 151 Southwest 184 Avenue. Application ZV2024-six. They want to change their directional signing or add directional signing, excuse me, in the parking lot. Correct?

Yes, sir. Good evening. For the record, Wesley Hevia. I am land use counsel for Walmart. Law offices at 3800 Northeast 1st Avenue, Law Miami, offices at Northeast 1st Avenue, Miami, Florida, 33138. I'm joined by Bill Pfeffer from Bowman Consultants, which is Walmart's design and engineering team down here. May I proceed with my presentation? Sorry? May I proceed with my presentation?

Yes, go ahead. Okay. Sure.

So some of you may recall this application from late last year. We were here before this very board requesting a variance to exceed the permitted number of online pickup and delivery parking spaces, which application was approved. And unfortunately, at the time, didn't realize that if we wanted to add wayfinding signage within our parking lot to help folks navigate to those spaces, that that would require a variance. So we are back to request to add wayfinding signage, specifically four signs, which I will show you in just a moment, to the parking lot to help folks navigate to the parking spaces. I do want to clarify for the record because our application materials reference the number of signs.

That is not the issue. The issue, as pointed out in the staff report, is to allow signs at all. Because the building is visible from the street, we need a variance in order to have these wayfinding signs at all. Hence, we are coming before you. So again, last year we recognize this. This is taken from our presentation from last year. The location of the online pickup spaces, which was approved. And here's the new request, which is the wayfinding signage. There are four signs proposed. They meet the city's code requirements for sizing.

We are not requesting a variance for sizing, simply to allow them at all. Again, this is just best practices, something that Walmart does everywhere to ensure that folks know how to get to the online pickup spaces. That is essentially the request. We're here to answer any questions. And we, of course, respectfully request your approval.

All right. So it said that they're one and a half square feet. So these are going to be pole mounted, guess, right?

Yes, sir. We are not requesting any variation from the maximum square footage shown on the slide here. Just for the sign? Just to allow the signs at all.

Yes, sir.

I have a question, Mr. Chairman.

Go ahead.

To staff. So am I correct assuming that the general consensus is that we do permit this kind of signage in parking lots? Is that the

No, that's not the case. We allow those based on the criteria that is up on the additional regulations Because Walmart kind of stands on its own and is visible from the road, and they're pointing out directional signs that are just for Walmart only on this particular case for one particular use, they're coming forward. Normally, it was in a shopping center type situation, they would have arrows going to different places. But this is singular for Walmart itself.

So the objection is that it's for the singular use?

There's no objection from the staff, but the intent of the directional signs were to take you to multiple places whereas Walmart stands on its own, can be seen from the road. They're talking about a specific use that they have to point to a specific function that they're doing on their side.

So I'm not familiar with the shopping plaza at all. So my question is, if I'm driving in there, how would I know where the pickup place is?

The problem. Yeah, that's why they need to sign.

Yeah, well. And so remember, the directional sign code was created before pickup spaces came and other items like that. So they're trying to get you to a specific place within the center, whereas when the code was created, it was created to get you to Walmart. You don't need to get to Walmart. You don't need all those signs to get to Walmart because Walmart's so large.

Okay, thank you.

So

there's four signs here. So these are just signs, not pick up areas?

That's correct, sir. There's an existing pick up area, and it will be expanded as per last year's approval. And then this application tonight is simply to add those four signs to the parking lot.

Okay. So those four signs are going to lead to two different pickup areas?

No, sir.

Just the

one? Just one. If I could zoom in again on the pickup area. In fact

By the gas station?

No, This is within Walmart's parking lot. It's south of the gas station. So here is just the pickup area. These that are sort of grayed out here, that's the area of the online pickup location.

So those four signs are going to take the customers to that parking area?

Yes, sir. From various directions within the larger parking lot.

Okay. Thank you.

Anybody else have anything to ask or input? Anybody out there? All right. I need a motion to accept the variance ZV2024-two oh, I'm sorry. ZV2024-six for Walmart.

Motion? I don't have 6. I have 45.

4 5 was

Just to clarify, the application number is

ZV2025-four.

Can follow my 90146.

Oh,

know what? Yeah, mine's.

It's 4, right? It's 4 and 5.

No, 4 and 5 was

Not this number here. The ZV number.

The ZV number

is I'm looking at wrong number. Mistake. Sorry about that. Direction of motion.

I'm sorry. There are two variances on this tonight for Walmart. One's at this location. The other one's at a separate location.

That's the five, right?

This one is for the 184th Street location,

correct? 1

84th. 1 And Hundred And 80 Pines Boulevard. So I need a motion to accept variance ZV2025-four for Walmart at 184th And Pines Boulevard.

I so move.

Second letter.

Motion by Labatt. Oh, yeah. I

guess c.

Motion by Member Labatt, seconded by Member Gonzales.

All in favor?

Aye. Aye. Sorry. Motion passed.

Are you also doing the

Yes, sir. Same team for the next item.

Okay. So next item is ZV2025-five Walmart for short term parking at 128th And Pines Boulevard. That's to add you want to add 21 spaces, correct? You already have 10, and you want to add 21. So for a total of 31.

Yes, sir. And I will elaborate, certainly. And for the record, again, Wesley Hevia, land use attorney for Walmart law offices at 3800 Northeast 1st Avenue, Suite 200, Miami, Florida, 3300137. Also joined by Bill Feffer, who is with Bowman Consultants, who is Walmart's dedicated engineering and design team down here in South Florida for all of their projects. So shifting gears now, we just looked at the other Walmart within Pembroke Pines.

This is the second Walmart location within Pembroke Pines. You know the address, 12800 Pines Boulevard. Unlike the previous one, this one's tucked into a larger commercial development. It is not a standalone, although Walmart does own this property. It is part of a larger commercial development pattern.

And that's important because I believe we do not need a wayfinding signage variance in the future. So we will not be back hopefully for that later. But just to clarify the specific variance request here, it is to have a total of 31 online pickup delivery spaces, which is the same thing that we got approved at the other location last year. We're asking for essentially the same thing at this location this year. And I do need to clarify for because

our letter of intent says that there are 14 existing online pickup spaces at this

store, year. Which there are. But according to staff, they brought it to our attention that there are only 10 approved. So there are four that may not be approved. I just wanted to be completely upfront with that because our materials do say there are 14, and I wanted to clarify that for the record. So that's why we're asking for technically an additional 21 online pickup spaces. And the reason for that is because the way that the the city zoning code is drafted, this is the framework on your screen for online pickup spaces anywhere in the city. So if you're a building of less than 10,000 square feet, you get three. If you're between 10,020, you get up to five. And if you're more than 20,000, you get 10.

So there's no way to exceed 10 by code no matter how big you are. Of course, we are quite big. This Walmart's about 136,000 square foot building. So that is about seven times the catchall category. And I've placed on this screen this is our draft. This is not the city's. The red shows that proportionally we are well within the range of, I think, the spirit and the intent of the code, which is proportionality. And that's why we're proposing well, we'll get into why we're proposing the specific number 31. But again, just to reiterate, this is a large building. It's a large property.

Walmart owns it. It's 22 acres. This is not a variance request for a parking variance because we will still provide excess parking at this location, surplus parking beyond what the code requires. So there will be no parking problem here. This is simply to exceed that cap that's in Pembroke Pines' code of 10 for anyone anywhere.

And I should also mention, and Bill can elaborate on this, but this is consistent with other online pickup at comparable Walmart stores throughout Florida. And obviously there's precedent in Pembroke Pines now as well at the other Walmart that you just saw. That was approved for a similar number of online pickup spaces. And then the whole purpose of this is to meet existing demand and future demand projected out to a certain threshold. And again, Bill can get into how we arrive at the number 31.

It's not arbitrary. It's based on data information, internal reporting, and demand because the whole point of this is to have ideally a few more spaces than you actually need so that there's never a congestion issue. People are never fighting for a space. There's never stacking or backup. So we can continue to provide this service that quite frankly since COVID has become necessary for, if not convenient than necessary for a lot of folks.

And really with the advent of online technology, online ordering, it's really convenient for folks who maybe have health issues, maybe don't want to go into the store, maybe have kids. So it just serves a very wide variety of folks. And of course there's always going to be folks like myself who want to just go in the store and buy off the shelf. But for a lot of people this has been really great. And obviously Walmart wants to extend the same level of service that it provides elsewhere in Florida to this particular location in this particular community. This is just the data chart, if you have any questions about the numbers, Bill can get into it. Again, this is the site. And this is the specific location. So I'm just going back to the aerial so you can superimpose to see where it's going. Again, there are already 10 existing spots in this location.

This would be expanded to 31. Zooming in, you'll see the location. This is really we have an opportunity to control exactly where this goes because we own the property. Well, owns the property. They have an established operation here. They know how it works. This is best scenario because they can follow best practices. And now I've tilted it 90 degrees so you can see on the left the existing online pickup operation on the right, the expanded. You may note that the spaces are larger on the right. That is intentional.

These online spaces are designed to be essentially the equivalent of handicap accessible. Although they're not handicap spaces, they have extra space on each side of they're wider spaces so that associates can come and navigate and deliver product and accomplish their mission as cleanly and efficiently as possible. So that concludes our presentation. I'll just leave this slide on the screen. I did want to give, through the chair, I'd love to give Bill the opportunity to explain why 31 if the board would like that. Otherwise, we can just answer questions.

Does any of the board members have any questions?

I have a question on the signage. Does this location need signs like the 184th 1? Or is it pretty self explanatory where they're located?

Yes, ma'am. I'll give Bill the opportunity to answer. But I think typically I think the answer is yes. I think that would be part of a site plan application. And we would not need a variance for that. So we wouldn't have to come back to you, but we would work with staff to approve the locations and the number of those signs and ensure that they meet the sizing requirements. So I think the answer is yes, but it's not at issue today nor will it be an issue for the board because there's no variance.

If

I may, does the staff agree? Okay, thank you.

Any other member have any other questions? No. Do you want to No. Sure.

Good evening. Bill Feffer. I'm the Southeast Regional Manager for Bowman Consulting. Office is at 13450 West Sunrise Boulevard. Bowman represents Walmart all over the country for planning, engineering, traffic, and surveying services. And me and my team here in Florida, we've worked with Walmart across the Southeast on these online pickup delivery projects going on a decade now. With its inception, we started with the planning process with Walmart. We've kind of worked through COVID and how the customer experience really changed during COVID. And I want to talk about some of the three key factors that go into how we determine the number of spaces. So for a site like this, Walmart has national standards that we use.

But I want to emphasize the fact that we make it site specific. Because a site in South Florida isn't going to operate the same way a site in rural South Georgia does. So even though we have national standards we use, we like to make each when we're determining the number, we make it site specific. So the three big factors are the size of the grocery component sales data, both looking back and then projecting out forward into the future so we can meet the customer demand and then the big one is site constraints. Do we have enough parking to accommodate the number that we would really like to see to accommodate this particular operator moving forward?

And this site checked all the boxes to accommodate 30 plus parking spaces, which is what we felt we need. And we came up with 31 because that kind of fits within the rows. And just from an operational standpoint, it made sense. So not rocket science, just kind of using what the customer behaviors are and then projecting out forward and making sure we've got enough spaces to accommodate it on the site.

Thank you.

Any

questions? Thank you.

I do have a question. Is this particular location, is there just a Walmart or are there any other adjacent businesses there?

This is

the Old Home Depot, correct?

I believe so. And the answer is yes. This is part of a larger commercial park, which includes office and other retail uses.

Yes. So the current time, do those other businesses utilize those spaces that you will use for short term?

No, sir. Walmart does own this property. And as part of their existing approvals, They have a parking requirement, but they're also vested with a certain number of spaces that belong to them within the larger development but specific to their property and their operation. And as indicated previously and as confirmed by staff in their staff report, this Walmart operates with a current surplus of parking spaces and will continue to operate with a surplus of parking spaces even if this application were approved.

So these spaces are now only used by Walmart?

Yes, sir. Within the red hash, that is my understanding. And Bowman can correct me if I'm wrong. But yes, that is how these stores are entitled and operated.

Okay. Thank you.

Anybody have anything else? No. Okay, so I need a motion.

Anybody from the public? Anybody from the public?

Oh, no. Sorry, anybody from the public? Okay. Thank you. All right. So I need a motion to accept the variance by Walmart for ZV2025-five to allow 31 short term parking spaces at one hundred and twenty eight hundred Pines Boulevard.

I so move. Letter?

Letter.

I'll second.

Motion by Member Labatt, second by Member Ailey. All

in favor? Aye. Motion passed.

Thank you, board. Have a great evening.

Thank you. Thank you, ladies.

Next up, we have item number eight, RL Carriers for the parking lot. Are they here? Oh, he is here. Excuse

me, sir. Before you leave, there is a form, a request to speak form on there. Before you leave, will you please print your name neatly so that I spell it correctly in the minutes? Thank you.

Okay. So this is item number eight, application SP20240008 for site plan for RL carriers for their parking lot new parking lot. Go ahead.

Good evening, everyone. My name is Sebastian Vitorino. I am representing Kimley Horn. I'm the engineer of record for this project. What I have for you here today is a proposal for an auxiliary parking location on

Excuse me. I'm sorry. This is a quasi judicial item. Do you waive your rights?

Yes. Thank you.

So what I have for you today here is a proposal for a parking lot for the Arnell Carriers on Northwest 209th, just north of Johnson Street. This is in the West part of the city, so very close to US 27, close to the industrial complex. Essentially, it is a 2.5 acre site that will be serving as 47 trailer parking spots to help facilitate the operations in the facility across the street that belongs to the R and L carriers.

Essentially,

we will be removing all the invasive species and replanting with native drought resistant plantings. And the parking lot will be fenced, enclosed, and gated for controlled access. As far as drainage, we have ensured to maintain all runoff on-site as it is right now with four large retention areas and around two fifteen feet of exfiltration trench. Overall, there is no proposed building, and there is no anticipated increase in vehicular movement to this facility as it would just be serving all the movement that is already happening. The peak hours will remain as they are from eight to eleven a.

And four to eight p. M. The parking lot will be fenced and screened and gated. We will be removing all invasive vegetation that has overtaken that lot and replace it with native drought resistant species. And there will be no long term storage, additional equipment, or overnight sort of vehicular trips outside of the already established operating hours. And that is all I have. I'll take any questions.

Are currently a twenty four hour facility?

We are, or they are. But they mostly operate between these two windows, as that's when deliveries come in and out. They are open at that time and maybe for unloading or loading, but not particularly active during overnight times.

And then your primary access is from Johnson Street and Taft Street?

Correct. Johnson Street and then up on 209.

Pardon my ignorance. These are tractor trailer parking spaces?

Yeah, like semis. Semitrucks.

Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Another

question. Is this primarily commercial areas, industrial, or dirty homes?

Is in the Chapel Trail Industrial Park. There are no homes within the notice range of this.

The notice range? Okay.

So it's right in the middle of the industrial park. And if you look at the aerial, you'll see it's flanked by warehouses on each side.

Okay. I just wanted to make sure those weren't townhouses because I

know No. Now,

it's going to be used by the company to park basically, they're going park the trucks there. They're going be loading there as well? No. The loading gets done in the primary property.

Correct. Correct. And this is mainly going to work as a temporary parking facility for ease of maneuverability. Whenever they have particularly busy times, they could move some of the trailers that are not being worked right now over there so that they have ease of access in their facility.

Mr. Chair, just for clarification also, I know he's calling this a parking lot. This is really a storage lot for us because they're using it for the trucks. This will not be used for customers to come in and out of. And that's kind of a distinction that I have to make from our planning perspective on how we look at this particular function of this lot.

How long have they owned this land?

I'm not sure, but they owned it before we began development. So I think that they owned it for quite a while.

Thank you. Just out of curiosity, the boat lot, the boat storage lot, there's a boat and RV storage lot in that area, correct? How far away is it from this, just so I can get it under standing? Is that going to be interfering with that?

I don't even know where that is.

I don't have it on the aerial here. I'd have to pull it up. But it's not within a decent distance away. I'm looking.

Because I'm just wondering if that would create some sort of traffic issues or

We

complications for boats and

don't believe it, Will. And to be honest with you, this area has always been designated as industrial. So the use itself is permitted and is anticipated for this site. Okay.

Thank you.

Know. Oh, think you're talking about the one off Sheridan Street, I think. Right?

He's in Sheridan? Okay.

That's way up. Yeah. That's way up. No.

It's by the point. By the Rose Price Park, I think.

Yeah. That's off Sheridan's or tap. Anybody else have any questions? No? Okay. Make a motion to accept the site plan to the city commission for approval. The application ID is SP2024-eight for RL Carriers' additional parking lot.

I so move.

Motion by the

Second.

By Member Labatt, second by Member Gonzales.

All in favor? Aye. Motion passed.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right. That was it for that. And so one more item we have is we have the report coming up to present to city commission at the June commission meeting. That is in here someplace. Had it.

Chair, if I can, while you guys are going through that, in front of you, you should have the report from us. It's very factual as far as how we went about it this year. In past years, we've had some recommendations from this board that have been transmitted to the city commission based on items that we've discussed over the year. In this case this year, we've really had our focus on processing the applications that are there. I hadn't seen any other recommendations that had been made in this particular year.

So again, if you have any questions regarding the report, which will be given by a member about Chairwoman Gonzalez at the June board night meeting, tonight's the night to work on that. And because Chairwoman Gonzalez was not here tonight, we'll then take the report with any comments that you have, and we'll work through it with her to make sure she's ultimately happy with the product that she brings forward as she'll be reporting to you. To the commission.

I just have one comment. The table that you have in the back of it is really hard to read. And I would just make a suggestion for those of us who I mean, with my glasses, I had a hard time trying to figure it out.

So what we can do with that is we'll put it over two pages. We were trying to get it all on one page because that's how the chart the chart actually in the code is over two pages. We were trying to crunch it to get it there. But we'll make it over two pages, then we'll correct that and make

it a little bit nicer Just because you're on the

briefly give me any concept of what I was trying to read on this? Mean

So if you remember, Chairwoman Gonzalez at the time had asked us to bring back a list of all of the applications in which this board sees. Some of the applications that are on there, you have not had a chance to see yet. And she wanted to kind of go over those and explain which ones stop at you all, which ones go to city commission. And then if you had any questions on any of those application types, we can certainly talk about it, some that we haven't seen in years.

Thank you. I just was trying to fathom, understand what was in there, and I couldn't read a lot of it. Thank you.

Any other questions on that? No. We just need a motion to accept the report so we can give it to the city commission. Anybody?

Just a comment. It's interesting to see a summary of everything we've done. It's like, oh. So I motion to accept it.

And I'll second.

Motion by Member Gonzalez to accept it and seconded by Member Aloy.

There you go. I got it. You got it.

All in favor.

All in favor?

Aye. Motion

passed.

Just two quick comments. We will work with Chair Gonzalez regarding the remainder of the report just to make sure there's nothing else that she feels needs to be in there. That's her prerogative as chairwoman. She will also be presenting at board night in June. If you all could attend to support her, that would be great.

If there are any concerns or anything else that you feel you need to that we need to look at for the following years in order to any items regarding the land development code or anything that you guys can think of in the future, please bring them to us. There are things that we can highlight next year. Or if you're perfectly satisfied with things or if there's amendments that you want us to look at, whatever it is, we're here for you guys. We'll work with you on it and move things forward hopefully.

What's the date of the What is the

date of that meeting? It is the June 5.

June 5?

Yeah, it's the first Wednesday. June 5? June 4, June 4, the first Wednesday. And second of all, I just want to thank Chair Goldich tonight. It was his first time as the Planning and Zoning Board Chair here. And kudos. Thank you for making our lives easy.

One more item of business. Actually, guess two, really. Does anybody have anything to present? Any items of discussion?

No. No.

No? Okay. And then so our next meeting is regular meeting is May 8. The June meeting was moved to June 26. And there's no meeting in July. Okay. Make a motion to adjourn the meeting.

Second. Second.

I actually couldn't have done that. It's out of order. It is. I'm not supposed to do it.

Consensus. Motion adjourned at 07:11.