City Council - Regular Meeting

agenda for Monday, March the 16th, 2026 at 6:30 2 p.m., excuse me. Um, if you will all please rise and uh and join in prayer by led by our mayor prom barum followed by the pledges by council member Kade. All right, thank you for that. Uh, moving forward real quick, we have roll call and certification of quorum. Madam Secretary, I'll certify we have a quorum present as all members of council are present and accounted for. If you will, I'm going to take a personal privilege real quick and go back to something that's on the agenda outside of the meeting, and that's a recognition for a

citizens life saving award. I believe we um uh I believe we had a um u we had a few people late getting here and uh we believe we've got most all of our people here. So, uh, Chief Johnson and your team, if y'all would make your way forward, testing, testing. All right. Thank you, Mayor, and thank you all for giving us this time this evening. Uh, we do have some very special awards to hand out this evening. Uh, it's something that gives us great pride to do that. uh citizens stepping up and being heroes. And so if you know anything about the AED initiative uh that stormed our country over the last several years, um it's a big initiative to the fire service, to to the American people, and it's the fact that you're putting AEDs just like we have here in our lobby of city hall uh in the hands of people who are trained on them who can save lives. Uh one thing that we know is that early defibrillation, early CPR saves more lives than anything that we do on the ambulance. And so the fact that these individuals were able to step up on this day and save the life of a child uh deserves uh recognition. And so I do have something I'd like to read. Says, "On November 4th, 2025, a 12-year-old student athlete collapsed during football practice. It was unexpected and life-threatening. He went into fatal cardiac arhythmia. Within seconds, trained staff responded. CPR was started immediately and an AED was brought to the student's side. A shock was delivered before EMS arrived. Here's the moment that made the difference. We are recognizing this today, not only because of the heroic actions of nurse Joanna Guzman, Coach Jeremy Washington, and Officer Dennis Hernandez, but because of something equally important. The junior high campus made a deliberate decision to ensure that an AED was

available at the field and during practice. This is not always a standard. Many campuses ensure AED coverage are there for games where crowds are present. Practices can sometimes be overlooked. But cardiac arrest does not wait for a Friday night game. It can happen on any ordinary day. Because this campus chose to have an AED immediately accessible during practice. And because these individuals were trained and ready to act, a young life was saved. This recognition is about preparedness and it's about leadership. It's about making safety a priority. even when it's not required or visible. We want to acknowledge that foresight. We want to acknowledge the training. We want to acknowledge the courage to step in and act without hesitation. Though not present at the cardiac arrest, coach Arman Hoy is the one recognized is the one recognized this need of having an AED present and his foresight should be celebrated. Today we recognize not only a life saved but the culture of preparedness that made the save possible. And so we have a small token of our appreciation to all of you. Thank you for stepping up. Thank you for having the courage to do what it takes to help save a life. Yeah.

All right. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mayor.

Just real quick before everybody uh takes off, these types of things are extraordinary. Um, and we have men and women in both um of our public service areas in fire, EMS, as well as police officers um that that do this types of things daily. Uh it may not be that they daily save a life. Uh but they would be there on a moment's notice in order to do that. And so we do set aside some time to have these life-saving awards. When we had one like this, we had school district, we had school district uh police officers uh as well as EMS uh all working in tandem together to save a life. Uh we want to take just a couple of moments uh to recognize that, say thank you for what you do. And and you'd look at me and say, "Mary, I just did my job." You did and it saved a life. So we want to say thank you. All right. And I tell you what, we uh we had a life-saving awards time this last week over at fire department and uh we got to watch three different life-saving measures and it was incredible to watch. We got another one this week over at uh

fire department to see and hear. And it really puts in perspective life, puts in perspective uh why we do what we do with with public safety in our in our community because at the end of the day, that's what matters. Um is that every child, every parent, every teacher, every coach, every citizen has the opportunity to go home at night. And um so it it just really puts it in perspective of the work that some of our folks do around this community. So thank you all for indulging for just a few moments. I think it actually set up better that we had that as a part of the overall meeting as opposed to uh before the meeting. So we could all participate in that. All right, moving forward in our agenda. Uh we have some citizens that signed up to speak. We have several that signed up to be general comments. two I believe three and then one a specific item. So Mayor Pro Tim will call your name. Those who are under general will uh will be called u during this particular time and when we get to the agenda item we will call those that signed up to a particular agenda item. So our first one for general comments is Rachel Racho. I say that right? All right. If you'd make your way to the podium and state your name for the record and you've got three minutes to speak and thank you for being here this evening.

Hi, I am Rachel Bro. Um, I am a Parland resident and I am speaking about the city's periodic switch to chlor from chloromine to free chlorine disinfection in our water system. I understand that this process is used by some utilities to clean bofilm in pipes and prevent nitrification. I also understand that this practice is recommended by the state Texas commission on environmental uh quality. But it is only a guideline rather than to be a strict requirement. However, um during the most recent conversion period, many residents experienced intense chlorine odor and irritation. This has been much more intense than expected. In my case, exposure to the chlorine in the water causes significant respiratory and allergic type reactions, including including asthma symptoms and hives. I usually get sniffly during standard pipe maintenance times. But this time is different. If I can't swim in pools, imagine what I go through dousing myself in this reactant every day just to stay clean. Medical research shows that chlorine gas released from hot showers and faucets can irritate the airways and trigger asthma symptoms in sensitive individuals. This is recognized by the Environmental Health Research and by agencies like the Environmental Protection Agency. It is recognized that physical responses to inhalation of chemicals and chemical byproducts is much more intense than ingestion and the data recorded stating that the chlorine levels are safe are only recognized for ingestion and not for inhalation. My concern is that while this process may be considered safe for general population, it can still have real health effects for residents with asthma, respiratory sensitivity, or certain immune conditions. Although Caroline Water notified the city that the maintenance was scheduled, they did not warn sensitive individuals to expect a higher concentration of the irritant than the usual water maintenance experience. Because of that, I respectfully ask the council to consider

a few improvements for future maintenance. Providing earlier public notification before cleaning with free chlorine, publishing the target chlorine levels for the maintenance period, reset the expectations of the residents in comparison to previously scheduled cleaning periods, and evaluating advisories or guidance for medically sensitive individuals. My goal is not to stop necessary maintenance, but to make sure that when these changes occur, residents who are medically sensitive have the information and support that they need. Thank you for your time and your work serving the people of Parland.

Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate that. Sue Matthews again, if you would state your name for the record and you have three minutes. Thank you for being here.

Okay. Susan Matthews. I've lived here for 30 years and for 30 years there's been complaints about low voter turnout. Early voting hours in the upcoming city election are 8 to5. Not exactly user friendly for working families. I posted online and just asked what others might think and I'll just give you a couple of the comments that really surprised me. First person said voter suppression. Another person said these hours are because Paraland has no future and doesn't encourage voting so they don't have to change anything. These aren't my opinions. I'm surprised that it's prevalent. Um and the other lady said, "I love where I live, but Parland is antiqu antiquated in many ways. It's an old town with new houses." So, I guess I am in the old town with an old house. Um, and I hate to bring up the F word, but friends with early voting hours have some in the evening and some on Sunday also.

Thank you, ma'am. Um, I'm going to try Carol Kreninsky and believe you're speaking on behalf of an organization. Is that correct? Yes, I am. You would have five minutes and if you'd state your name for the record.

Carol Krinsky. I'm president of the Friends of uh West Periland Library. The friends of West Parland Library is a 501c3 organization whose mission is to support West Parland Library by providing additional funds for library needs. In 2025, we provided almost $20,000 in funds for programming, librarian grant requests, and staff appreciation events. Our 220 our 2025 activity report includes financial data details on the back page and I believe each of you received a copy of that this evening. 2025 was a very good year for the friends of West Periland Library. Total revenue was up 37%. Total expenditures were down 15%. Attendance at our programs and events increased 100% thanks in part to a very successful Lunar New Year event. Our volunteer hours increased 37%. We undertook three new initiatives in 2025. One, we now provide for a nominal fee the earbuds for library patrons. Use of earbuds helps to keep the noise level down in the library. We undertook this as a service to the library and its patrons. When the county announced that due to budgetary constraints, they would no longer provide tote bags, the branch

librarian asked whether we would like to make tote bags and sell them at the circulation desk. We said yes. So far, this has been a very successful effort. free. A major component of our fundraising efforts are quarterly sales of donated books. This year we held two author meet and greet events in connection with those book sales. These have been very popular both for the authors who have a sizable audience for presenting their books and for patrons to meet and talk with new authors. Libraries depend on the support of their communities. We are grateful to the city of Periland for its support of our efforts to help make our library a significant community asset. Thank you.

Thank you, ma'am. Mr. Mayor, that's it for general comments.

Okay. I know we have one signed up for one that we're going to pull that one from exact session so we can talk about it. I mean consent, excuse me. Um Carol, thank you for you and your efforts and the friends of the library. You guys do a great uh great work and uh everybody well maybe everybody has come by the library. The parking is atrocious. We know that. Uh but at the end of the day, you guys do a tremendous job for that library and we thank you enough. All right, moving forward in our agenda to consent agenda. I have items FG and I to be pulled. Uh any others? Right. Seeing none, I'll turn to Mr. Kosa if you would present consent agenda. Items A through I with the exception of F, G, and I.

Mayor, consideration possible action on the consent agenda items A through I with the exception of FG and I. So move. Second. We have a motion and a second. Madam Secretary, call for the vote. Member Kosa. I. Member Carbone. Hi. Member Travidia. Hi. Mayor Proin Byron. Hi. Member Kade. Hi. Member Fernandez. Hi. Member Patel. Hi. The motion passes 8 to zero. 7 to zero. All right, Mr. Kos, if you present item F is in Frank. Yes, mayor. Consideration possible action resolution number R2026-33-1. So moved. Second.

We have a motion and a second. We do have a U citizen that would like to address this particular item. Mayor Pro Tim, if you'll introduce them.

Mr. Quentyn Wiltz, you will make your way to the podium, sir. State your name for the record, and you have three minutes. Thank you for being here. Quinton Wilt, thank you all for the opportunity to speak uh and engage this community, this council. Um, thank you for what you do, the time, and the commitment. I want to start by saying when we started this very meeting, we started with the pledge and as one of our council members mentioned, it's a it was a pledge to the greatest nation on this earth. I don't think anyone in this room would argue um as to why. Uh, but I would just reiterate that the why is because we pride ourselves on self-governance and the ability to go to the ballot box and choose our elected officials, those who have the power to govern and make decisions that affect our every our everyday lives. When we started, we also gave recognition to individuals and we noted that we had to take some time because they couldn't make it here on time and we granted them the opportunity to to be uh recognized. This very meeting starts at 6:30. There are thousands of Parland residents like myself that I represent that are working families, caregivers, and it is nearly impossible to do anything outside of their everyday life from 8 to 5:00, especially participate at the ballot

box. This upcoming election early voting is from 8:00 to 5:00. Monday through Friday. One of the days is Saninto day which is a holiday. So then then we have fewer days. Saturday 8 to 5. I'm a father, husband, friends that I have. They have kids who participate in extracurricular activities on the weekends. They're gone from 7. Usually don't get home till about 6:00. soccer, football, swimming, baseball, all the things that make Pearland Pairland because we have a good quality of life. We just faced record-breaking primaries. What people expect is consistency. So to move from a general primary election to a local election, reduce voting locations and reduce hours takes away the very thing that we pride ourselves in. And so I speak and I stand before you representing thousands of working families who will be left off, left out and not have their ability to vote in the local May 2nd election and early voting. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. That's all that. All right. With that, we'll go to staff report on item F. I'm sorry if I missed it. Was there a motion in a second for this resolution? The motion. Okay. Thank you.

Thank you, mayor. So, uh, we contract with Missouri County for our elections and when we approve the resolutions, um, in a past meeting to call for this election, uh, we did not have at the time from the county the locations and the times for the voting. So, this uh amends that resolution that was done at the time to bring those that information into the resolution moving forward for the for the election. Any questions, comments from members of council? Mr. Carbone?

Yep. Um I ask a question. I know the prior elections I've been in, we typically have what 7 to 7 um at least that Monday, Tuesday. Um I know you've circulated a memo. Um, can staff give us um some clarity on how the locations and timing for the polls work?

Yes, sir. I can uh try to provide some guidance. Um, the city of Perlands meets with everybody who's in a joint contract for election services that is run by county election clerk. And that meeting that happens in order to organize that and all of those joint elections for the local elections occurs sometime in the December time frame as we move forward. And then all of those entities who choose to participate in that joint election service. Uh normally execute that agreement sometime in February if not a little bit before that. Um during that meeting, that's when we talk about, hey, when do you want to do your times and what locations do you want to participate to or do you want to host the elections at? Um and theory County elections clerk takes all that into consideration. Uh and that is included inside that joint contract. And that joint contract actually lists those times and those locations that and that's what the city of Perlands executed. Uh I want to say it was midFebruary. I'd have to scroll down just a little bit to verify that it was late February actually. February 26 I believe is when we had signed it. Um, so the reason why this item is on tonight's agenda is although the election hours were known, um, nobody had voiced concerns and asked anybody else to have later hours, the locations were still uncertain. And the reason why those were uncertain is there are several entities who might not have had to have an election. And if that's the case, then those polling places would not be included on the exhibit that's attached. uh for your resolutions tonight. Um an example of that is even here in Perland with one of our special elections to fill council position number two, we

were able to through the uh consent agenda um say that that was not necessary. Had we had that happen for all of the other elections in Perland, our three polling locations may not have been the same three. It could have been different. Um so as that happens with all the joint participants uh they all have to adopt an exhibit A they all have to have those locations and those time sets. Um that's that's why the item is on tonight's agenda. The thing that I think would be important to note and I do not pretend to be a subject matter expert on elections. Uh please nobody take me for that. Uh but the secretary of state was reached out to uh when somebody asked us if we could extend the hours and they said that you cannot extend the hours just for your voting location. It would have to be countywide or everybody in that joint participation agreement. And they also indicated that everybody would have to change their exhibit A and B in time to do that. Unfortunately, for this election, if we even wanted to participate and do something like that, because of the dates and times established in the election code for when you have to have all the different things done, the computers programmed, your logic and your accuracy testing, um I I think that those things were required to be finished and accomplished by March 13th, which you know, it's not going to happen now. Um, so the county has the authority as the joint elections clerk to um not participate if we if we don't go along so to speak. Um, if we're not in agreement with everybody else, if we want something different, they they'll just kindly ask us to host our own election. And that is always an

option. Hosting your own election, though, is going to be um a significant investment, whether it be for the time, the labor, the equipment, or any of those other things. I hope I've given the background that you need. I apologize if I was too verbose. So going forward, how can we affect a change?

If we wanted to affect change when we have that meeting in December, we can say, "Hey, for this local election, um we understand what the county does and what the state does for theirs. We could do something similar." I think that the laws enacted in prior years, like we're doing what the law requires right now earlier, the law required that for the second week of early voting, the poll had to be open later. We could advocate for that. Uh like we we wouldn't recommend shifting the times. Um we would recommend let's do it from 8 to 7. Um and then in that December meeting everybody can you know if everybody's willing to go along with that if we can advocate for that then that would be how you affect that change but there is a cost to that and you know whether it be us like if if we're the only ones who want to do it and nobody else wants to do it unless we shoulder that cost um I I don't think that you would get that to happen because it is a joint participation agreement and my understanding is that that is divvied up accordingly. I I don't pretend to understand the accounting of that though. So, I I guess I'd ask at some point, can you get a consensus from council prior to that December meeting with the county? And if there's a consensus, which I I would hope there would be that we can advocate for 8 to 7 or 7 to 7. I'd be in favor of that.

Yes, sir. I think the secretary is here taking diligent notes and uh she will uh she's the one who attends that meeting. Uh so she will gladly um well if we need to put something on an agenda to get a consensus from council then when we go there with that consensus we can advocate for that change.

I think you can get the consensus tonight by just people saying yay or nay they'd like to see something expanded. I just know from just for years of experience it it always seems as though that Saturday and then Monday and Tuesday following you know that second week they were seven to seven. And I don't I don't know what prompted the change from the county uh specifically. I know last year we didn't have an election. So I don't know that we were necessarily paying attention as much to it. U just simply because we we were afforded the opportunity to cancel our elections here. Um, and um, so I I don't know if we you can speak to that, but I I mean I think certainly the weekend should be a no-brainer where it can go, you know, 7 to 7 and then at Monday, Tuesday be 7 to 7 because that that seems to the way it has been for many many years and and I just I don't know why it changed. I I don't pretend to un remember the history. I had never paid attention to that since I was not in this chair at the time. Uh but I I'm paying attention to it now and uh if if there is a consensus on council to ask for expanded hours especially during the second week of election uh absolutely we can do that.

That's all I have mayor. Thank you. Yeah, Mr. Thank you, mayor. Um, I guess if you're going to go ask the county for this, I would like to know by extending these hours in the past and and and I guess the reasoning is important, but I guess how many people voted really between 5 and 7, right? And what the cost is to run those extra hours. Uh, because I think on May 2nd the hours are from 7:00 to 7:00, right? So, and that's a Saturday. Um, because I know from my understanding the local election turnout is so low. Uh, and so I guess if if we're going to ask the data, then ask the data. What how many people do you show up between five and seven? So I think we we could also have an understanding of that and what the cost is to run those elections, those

Yes, sir. We could reach out and see if they have historical data on how many people voted per hour, per day, or whatever it is. I I don't pretend to know they keep that data, but I I I take your point and that is, you know, if we're going to do this, let's make sure it's being utilized. Yeah. I mean again and and then from my understanding and what I'm looking at this polling locations the early locations haven't changed at least I I can't see a different

location and then the election day it seems to be the correct locations also as in the past. So, I think it's just the two extra hours that we're talking about here. And I guess that's my question. If it's going to be from 7 instead of 8, how many people show up between 7 and 8 in the morning? And how many people show up between 5 and 7 p.m.? So, um, and just to run some cost on that. Thank you. Anyone else? All right. With that, Madam Secretary, I call for the vote. Member Kosa. I. Member Carbone. Hi. Member Chavia. Hi, Mayor. Prom. I. Member Cade. Hi. Member Fernandez. I. Member Patel. Hi. The motion passes seven to zero.

All right, Mr. Kosa. Back to you. Item G, please. Consideration possible action resolution number R206-44. So moved. Second. We have a motion to second staff report.

Thank you, mayor. This is a special events permit for the upcoming Perilland Grand Arts and Eats Festival. This will be the second year um that this festival occurs. that is being done with the city of Parland in partnership with visit periland the chamber of commerce old parland farmers market and first united meth Methodist church. Um it includes some road road closures on Grand um as well as on Zalinsky drive and uh East Jasmine uh during the festival and this would uh allow that to occur for this year and the following four years. So five years total on that special events permit. All right, Mr. KO, I believe you pulled this.

Yes, mayor. Thank you. Um, with uh the the recent uh event here, I don't know if it's a couple weeks ago, three weeks ago. Um, I I just curious to know, have we gotten everyone that the street closures in the area are okay, no issues? um because we have fielded quite a bit of phone calls and emails or having Parland Parkway shut down in the last event I guess was more than what it was expected and created a problem even worse. So kind of curious to know uh that we have these issues because to me these are unforced errors.

Good evening Mr. Kosa. Um we have this area where we're hosting this event is a little bit different. there's not a lot of residential um houses in that area. Um First United Methodist Church is one of the area, one of the um organizations that would be impacted. They're a partner in this and fully support this event. Um we've we've discussed with the Monasury School multiple times. It's also on a Friday afternoon and Saturday. Um they're going to be participating in the event as well, coming out, setting up a booth, interacting with the community, and they've made some arrangements for their school pickup on Friday to happen on the other side of the building, so there won't be any impact there. There are two residences on Grand and last year they sat in lawn chairs in their front yard and enjoyed the music and really were expressed a lot of um positive feedback and that they were so grateful to see the events coming in this area. So we don't anticipate any impact on um any of the other organizations or homes in that area.

All right. Thank you. And like I said, I just uh I want to deal with those issues now and not the morning of when uh we we're behind the Yeah. we're behind the eightball to be able to get it taken care of. Mr. Mr. Carbone. Yeah, this is a great event. I was excited to see it. Um I don't know if every all of us made it out there, but it was awesome last year. The weather was perfect and um kind of really get you excited about the old town site plan and and what's going on out there. So, I don't know if there's tickets available, but it's it's a it's probably one of my favorite events. I think it's sold out. Oh,

highly popular event. Yeah, both even both well the evening and the day both uh great events and uh a lot of fun. Uh maybe I should weather be clear the dinner on Friday night sold out I believe the uh on Saturday one come all yep the festival on Saturday is completely free and everyone's invited to to join us for that. All right, any other questions, comments? Seeing none, Madam Secretary, call for the vote. Member Kosa I. Member Carbone I. Member Tavadia. Hi. Mayor Poten Byum. Hi. Member Cade. Hi. Member Fernandez. Hi. Member Patel. Hi.

The motion passes 7 to zero. All right, Mr. Kosa. Item I as in igloo. Consideration possible action resolution number R2026-55. So moved. Second. Have a motion to second. Staff report.

Thank you, mayor. So, in conjunction with Paraline Economic Development Corporation, we are reconstructing Industrial Drive West of Main Street. And uh this is a change order for that construction contract requiring approval. That's basically quantity adjustments for actual conditions in the field or discrepancies between the bid quantities and design quantity. Um our construction contract is that we pay actual quantities at the unit prices bid. Uh so that's how we arrived at the numbers on this. Uh the two main items in here, there's an additional 164 feet uh linear feet of 6x2 box coververts at $515 of linear foot. The original quantity that was bid was 3532 and uh actually we need that additional $164 to complete the project and then uh additional lime for subgrade stabilization. Uh the amounts that were estimated were based off uh existing soils evaluated in the Geotech report and the actual soils at the elevation in the field that we needed to stabilize uh were a little bit different requiring an additional 60 $164 tons of lime at $365 a ton. There's several other smaller add and subtract items based on actual field conditions and other factors. Um but those are the two main items. Uh and then this project is funded by the Parland Economic Development Corporation. Uh the change order is within the budget and so we recommend approval uh of the change order to Conrad Construction Company in the amount of $117,000 $1752 uh,000.37. Thank you, mayor. We'll be happy to answer any questions.

Okay. U Mr. Carbone come to you first. Yep. Thank you, mayor. Um so the calculation error is this on the the contractor or the engineer. So yeah my understanding is that the um the quantities in the on on the box coververt in the actual bid calculated by the engineer uh that were in the bid uh uh bid item itself was different than what was in the actual plan. So they missed the 164 feet the the amount the actual amount in the bids versus what was in the plans by the 164 feet. Is the engineer here? Yes, sir.

Thank you for being here. Can you give I guess give us some more color on how we we got to 100,000 plus change order. All right. Appreciate it. Mayor, council, appreciate y'all having me. So, uh, as Trent talked about in summary is we talked about the box, the 164 So we have construct Brad we know you the mic doesn't go ahead and give your name for the

sorry Brad Matlock with Cob Finley we are the engineer on the project design engineer um so as Trent had mentioned we have uh roughly 3532 linear feet in the bid documents we have construction contract documents which include the plan set and the bid set that makes the documents themselves the plans are correct and have the correct amount of box in them. But the bid form when the quantity takeoff was done at the 100% because we're obviously doing a number of iterations as we go through design from 60 to 80 90 making some modifications here and there. So as we were doing that we had made some changes and missed that 164 quantity in the bid form but the plans show that and that's correct in what the scope of work is and what the city is looking for. So ultimately when you bid the project the the total construction cost would have come in higher if the number was in there because you were still going to need that amount of box. Again it's a discrepancy. It's a quality area. It's a QAQC thing that we uh have looked into and we are looking into addressing it going forward. Uh we are making some changes to some of our quality control uh verification methods. Uh ultimately we have multiple people doing checks and double checks. Uh but sometimes again we're not all we're not perfect and I don't claim to be perfect. Uh we do make mistakes on those on those uh quantity takeoffs. But again that's where the 164 is and I'm happy to answer any of the other questions on the water line as well.

Is it how's this going to affect timing? And I guess along with that, what does the timing look like for construction and SMA completion?

Great question. So on this change order, there's an additional six days that's going to be added uh that the contractor has requested for these items. Um and again, this project is a has added a little bit of challenge to us as we are working with utility dry utility companies. I'm not going to name any of those names, but we're working to try to get those utilities moved out of the way. uh we bid the project back well project design was done back in the end of September. We had contacted them prior to but they wanted a 100% set of plans before they would get started on their process. So we are already from October till now in March and we are still working to try to get those utility move utilities moved. Um so again we're trying to find options to to get the pro keep the project moving forward. So, um, again, I I can't give you a full timeline right now as we're working through it, but as of right now, we're already four to five months in with their delay, but we are still moving construction forward.

That's all I have, Mayor. All right, Mr. Patel. Thank you, sir. Um, so Matt, you know, I know you haven't been here in front of us with a change order or justifying this, but walk me through this, so I understand it. The city paid you for the design and then the city paid you guys for the bid documents, correct? Yes, sir. They play paid for the design and paid for us to do the bid documents, which is the construction

documents. And so I guess in my world, and I'm not in the city world or government world, we go by the contractors to say, "Hey, here's a bid document, but at the end of the day, the construction documents was if you miss something, it's on you guys." So, I guess just because we have the budget, you guys are coming back here and asking for us to give $17,000 to the contractor. What would happen if we didn't have this budget and we would have taken that extra excess money and used it for another project? Would you guys be responsible for this?

We could redesign the project and reduce the box by 164 linear feet. How would that impact the project? It would change the project a little bit because you would have a section of the roadway open open channel and not box. We could design it that way. To answer your question, but I guess you're not answering the other question is the city lived up to their obligation by paying you for engineering services and paid you guys for the bids. Correct. Did we cut short your pay payments? No, sir.

Okay. So, it was your guys's job to give us a bid document that was accurate that matched the design you guys did. So, when the final bid came out or the contractor's design was bid based on your bids would be the final number. Correct. That's correct. So, why should the taxpayer be on the hook when you guys screwed up? I'm just curious.

So, again, I understand your question. I understand the point. The design plans are correct. That's the the plan set. The quantities that we put in there were off by the 164 linear feet. You were going to pay for that no matter what. It was not an increased item. It wasn't a new item that had a new cost and change. So again, if I understand in some people's world that we are not the contractor, we are the design engineer. We can redesign it to take out that additional cost if there was not budget there. But I don't create, so to speak. I'm not the one that's putting it in the ground. I don't have the means and methods in order to modify like normal in business if you had something that you were selling that you could could handle that. I can't do that. I do design and again I don't we don't put together perfect set of plans that is our contract does not state that we put together a perfect set of plans. So I'm sorry. So we're paying you this money but you're saying you're not going to give us a perfect set of plans.

I cannot guarantee it to be perfect. How much was this contract for design and uh fees? I'm sorry. The engineering and how much will we pay for the engineering cost? And I'm just curious. Do you have that map by any chance? It was roughly I'm looking it up for you. I've got it. Give me a second, Brad. Sorry. Sorry, Bri. Oh, you're good. 572

572903 that's the engineering and the bid drawings or the bid that that is what we have to date that is what our plan set or our professional service agreement is for has a one amendment to it and that's almost 10% of the cost cost 10 of the total cost of the project. Yes, sir. The total cost of the project's roughly $5.3 million. You you you kind of understand where we're coming from or at least where I'm coming from.

I do. I do. And I'm I'm not trying to circumvent your question by any means. I'm just telling you again that ultimately when we put together a set of plans, we do the best of our ability what the client is wanting, what the city is wanting. We put that design together and yes, there was a discrepancy in a quantity by 164 that was made. I agree. I acknowledge that. Uh but again, it does we have no control over the cost of that item. But when it was bid, it was still bid at $515 per linear feet. Again, it's change orders are there to add the additional quantity to a project. Again, I do not claim to want to come up here and have change orders on projects. That's my goal is to not have any at all, but again, I can't guarantee perfection.

Have there been in the past where there's been a change orders coming from this engineering firm? I I would say every engineering firm we work with that the resulting construction has some minor to sometimes major change orders. So I I I wouldn't say that there anything that Cobb Finley's ever done didn't have them in the past. We'd have to go back and look at everything. I can make the claim that I've been up here the first time today. How long have you been with Cobb Finley? 17 years today. Okay. In Periland doing projects

in Periland. Okay. Again, I understand your frustration and it is a quality error, but it's not a design error. It's a quality and we've acknowledged it. If this doesn't pass, what happens? Your contractor eats eats the cost. No, you're or you even

So I I think we're either redesigning and having to do the project to not meet the original intent of the project or I you know it's the the a construction contract it the the quantities that are bid are basically done off a takeoff of the plan sets very complicated plan sets and then our contracts say we pay actual quantities. So if they miss the quantities by a little bit up or down, we pay actual. This particular one with the box cover, you know, is going over. There's other ones that ran under. So we pay actual quantities at the unit bid prices. Yeah. And I guess the the the thing that's hard for me, and I don't know the rest of the council, is we're paying for services that are inaccurate, and he's telling you they're going to be inaccurate. he's actually telling you he's never going to guarantee that he's going to be accurate. So then the question is at this cost would it be better to bring it inhouse or do you give a set of drawings to the contracting and say hey based on this drawings you do it we're not going to provide a bid bid set like we're not we're just going to do the engineering and not provide the actual counts of whatever because this that service is not 100% accurate. So

then you'd be asking the contractors for a lump sum construction contract. I think you'd wind up paying a lot more. I mean, you keep saying you would think, but we don't know. I mean, well, I mean, what's been in this case? We don't know, right?

Well, yeah, it's a it's a game of of guess. It's a guessing game at best. I will say uh I'll I'll back what Brad is saying. No engineer is going to guarantee a civil project because number one, you don't know what you're going to find when you open the ground up to even start the project. We do our dead level best to do geotechnical work and some other stuff, but if that is not accurate or it goes deeper or there's serious concerns underneath the ground that when you go to open up, those plans are not accurate. And so you're going to have to make modifications that's going to lead to a change order that's going to do those kind of things. We had the same exact problem on the Bailey Bridge, you'll recall. Uh and that engineering firm, same thing. QAQC bid uh the the plan set was correct. Plan set or the bid uh bid tab, the bid number was off. Um and you know, at the end of the day, our contract states we pay for actual actual quantities. And so we ended up we ended up had it been bid correctly, that's my next question is had it been bid correctly, would it have changed the outcome of a bid? Would it have changed to another bidder? Would it have changed to the second bidder? Would he have been number one? The third bidder, would they have jumped to number one? Uh, I'm not sure with $17,000 if that would have changed them. But that would have been my question. Was it was it does it give an advantage to a contractor you know

so specific for the boxes it would not have changed anything in the bid process. Uh again the 117 is inclusive of other items that we made other determinations for on the water line to make it better for the businesses out there by not shutting the water water line down during construction and doing a tapping sleeve and valve. I know that technical term for everybody, but it basically allows the businesses to stay going with water versus shutting them down and doing all that kind of stuff. So the box part specific, no sir, it would not have and and what and what we ended up doing on the um on the Bailey Road one, it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the of the bid. We found that one fairly early uh on as well. And so we admonished the engineering company. We did just like we're doing tonight. Um and and somehow someway QAQC and their company did not get done properly in some bid tab somewhere of putting the right quantity in there. But I don't know that you'll ever find an engineering company that will sign up for a contract that it has to be 100% accurate only because there's things that change in the field that create an inaccuracy of what's in the what's on the plan set.

And I guess mayor then the question would be would it be better to go to a lump sum contract? I mean would it be I don't know. Yeah, I I can give you some just from my world because I deal with architects and engineers every day. Um, and what's on paper and what's ends up being built is rarely ever the same thing because there's

random things that happen. Um, when we have a unit price contract for materials, say I order a framing pack for a house based off of this material list, they start putting the house up and they call me and they go, you know, we need 175 more 2x12s. I got to get 175 more 2x12s. I can tell you from my own personal experience in the construction world, if you go to lump sum, your lump sum prices are going to be higher because they're going to pad it for those field changes. They're going to they're going to put it in there and say, "We don't know." But when you have a lump sum, you don't you don't get the benefit of when quantities come in on you just pay that dollar period.

If they can find a they can find a different way to do it, that benefits them, not sure. And it could be also the other way around too. So it can be both sides. 100%.

I think to add to that discussion of lumpsum versus unit pricing in the in the civil construction world, the industry norm and standard is is you bid it with uh quantities and and unit prices. Um when you get into buildings and the architectural world, that's when you see more lump sum and that's typically what we do on our buildings as well. Um and then you do the material breakdown after that. Um, so you know that that would be another concern if you if you change that up in that industry whether you would attract biders at all. I I do have a question. Um, we're talking about $117,000. Um, roughly I get in trouble with DIS math. Roughly 2% of the total project cost 2.1. Um, we've got 270,000 worth of contingency in there. Is this basically going to come out of contingency or are we increasing?

Yes, sir. Contingency.

It's going to come out of contingency and this is what we put contingency in for. Um I I will say to to your question about Finley um and how frequently do we have issues with them. I know I've been here for two years and in the two years I've been here, I've heard of several different engineering firms that we've had issues with. Cob Finley is not one of them. Um, so I, you know, I appreciate the willingness to say, "Hey, we messed this up. It's still within scope. It's still within the contingency. The reality is things happen. This is not to to your point, the the bus on Bailey Road, that was huge. This this is 164 feet out of 3,000 ft. It was five times, you know." Yeah. So, yeah. expect you guys to do as good of a job as you possibly can do, but I do think it's reasonable for, you know, bit of a margin of error. Mr. Kosa,

thank you, Mayor. Um so Brad um on uh RFI number six, it's page eight out of nine. You can put it up on the screen. Can we talk about um it says in here that uh let's see here upon further investigation it was determined the original line recommendation 6% uh was based on the surfal surfacial soils below the existing pavement. However, the samples collected during construction two feet below existing grade. Um, why did we go two feet below? And you kind of talked about why we didn't do it before and did it.

So, when they do the Yes, sir. When they do the borings, they don't go 2 feet. They go actually I think on these these were 10 ft and then the detention pond was actually a little bit deeper.

Um, so the we did get the information on that. One thing I want to preface is that when we do the geotechnical report, they are cing roughly a three to six inch core and going down that depth and then they pull it out and then they go back and they analyze it and they do that every so many feet. We have nine borings on this road. It's a pretty long road. uh we try to take those and connect them all together to think that we understand the strata underneath the road and to make sure that hey this all this is fatty clay. I will tell you just in my history of doing roadways it's great upfront but sometimes we run across areas that they've done things under the road and they put shell under it for 200 feet. They've put what we call GS200 which is something that has to go to a landfill. Obviously, we didn't have that here, but when you do the borings two years ago, today, I think we did the borings January of 2024 was when the borings were actually done. Water in the ground is different. We saw no groundwater at the time. Now, it could be a little bit different. Again, when they pull out the road and they get to see larger quantities of the subsurface uh area, then they can the geotech goes out there and then they take a proctor of it and they say, "Hey, we might need to make modifications to the lime uh content." Again, when the lime content number came out, when we pulled out the culde-sac area of the road, it came back with 12%. I've never used 12% in paraland and I've done a number of paralland roadways. So we had 6% when we did the original when we got the estimates from the geotech we estimated based on 6%. And so the quantity that you have going forward is estimating about 10% because we do not

believe a 12% lime content is necessary for that entire roadway. So again, there are going to be discrepancies between what we bore in the 3 to 6 in cing to when they actually the contractor gets out there in the field and he starts pulling things up. But they're going to assess that as they go. That's why we have a materials testing uh the city has a materials testing firm that's going to be out there doing that during construction. So when you say there were nine borings, is that what you said on the road?

Yes, sir. So um would what's a I guess standard practice for how many feet are depending it's roughly 300 350 sometimes the cost people don't want to pay for a bunch of borings because they ultimately know that they're going to get to it in construction so we kind of have assessments. Everybody's a little different but the city has a standard and that's what we had worked on. I think it was 300 if don't quote me on that. Okay, that's fine. And uh what I heard you say is you're you're planning on or this estimate right here is on a 10%. Yes, sir. It's

So if we keep continue to go, you could be back for another 2%. If we were to use 12% for the remaining amount, we would double what we currently have in the bid form because we had estimated 6%. Right on. When they did they did the first one in the cold sack, it was 12%. I think just recently they did one and they were at 10%. Am I correct, Valerie? Did I think that's correct? So again, you're going to pay on actuals when you get done with the project.

No, I understand. I'm just I'm trying just trying to understand when you said 10% and they're saying 12. If we do it on 10 and then we hit 12, well then what makes sense to me is you're going to be back for more money if it costs more to have 2% more in it. Right. I believe we've done some additional testing in some of the new areas and it showed a little bit lower and I think based on the geotech we'll continue to test throughout the throughout the stretch of the roadway and the expectation is that we're going to be at 10 or below. We won't be 12 throughout the corridor. But yes, if we were at 12 throughout the corridor, we'd have to add back some additional lime on top of this amount. Okay. Because I mean, we're it's based on Yeah. actual

we're a little under half of the contingency right now. So, I mean, any other issues could could eat that up. Um, and just to clarify a little bit, we are early on in the construction of this project. Yeah. So, we wanted to bring this ahead of time to where we didn't have the contractor pushing up against quantities, but we are not anywhere close to eating into all these quantities. So, well, I mean, that's what I'm saying. We're we're a little under half of the contingency eating up here. I mean, we got about 150 $160,000 left. If we have another change order, we'll we'll be pushing the limit of what we approve to to build the road. I understand.

And and that's, you know, I appreciate you bringing it up soon. That that's not the issue. What I'm looking at is the dollar amount. Um, so, uh, I don't know if this is Lawrence question or not. I'm listening to the contract. Um, so it says we're not holding them accountable for for these type things. Is there any way or or does it make any sense to where if we said okay if this number gets out of a certain percentage of what the whether it's based on contingency total project um because the Bailey road was half a million or $600,000 um these mistakes can be can be big.

Yes sir. But if unless it's an actual design, it's not something that we would hold against the um the engineering firm. Uh I'm sorry. You wouldn't hold it against the contractor. Is it going to pay that? I'm not saying the contractor. I'm talking about the engineering firm because and I'm trying to say an error on their behalf and the fact that when we I don't know when we approved the original uh uh contract to have this road constructed now we're eating into the contingency plan. Yes, sir.

So if if Okay, so let's go let's go this way. If it goes over 300,000 they going to be back for want more money from us over the road from five and a half or whatever the total number is. Yes, sir. That would be the expectation. So what my question is if this number becomes bigger than let's say we put 5%. 2% whatever it is where we can hold the accounting I mean not the counting the engineering firm liable in the original contract.

I don't know if you can hold them liable in the original contract. I think the way to hold them accountable is when you ever whenever you go to award another bid whether or not you would consider this to be a responsible bidder um or I'm sorry when you do the professional services because it wasn't bid because it was a design firm. Uh would you continue to use the engineering firm for that selection process for professional services? So it would be for future contracts not for this contract. And that would be at the staff level not the council level. Those contracts do come to you for eventually. Yes. But I mean for the consideration it would start at the staff level. Yes, sir. Thank you.

Any other questions, comments? Brad, I've got one on your dry utilities. Just give me an initial. Does it start with an A or a C? Second. We can apply pressure there. It's all I needed to know. Thank you for that. Madam Secretary, we'll call for the vote. Member Kosa. Hi. Member Carbone. Hi. Member Chavia. Hi. Mayor Poten Byro. Hi. Member Cade. Hi. Member Fernandez. I. Member Patel. No. The motion passes six to one.

All right. Thank you for that. Moving on to um we've already just handled the matters removed from consent agenda. Moving to public hearing number one. Do I've got you. I see you back there. uh if you'll read into the record the reason for the public hearing and then move right into the staff report.

Thank you mayor. Good evening everyone. This is a request by Plan Community Developers LTD applicant on behalf of Periland Lifestyle Center LP owner for approval of a zone change from plan development PD to PD replacing the previous prominade shops lifestyle center PD with a new mixeduse PD on 122.069 069 acres, generally located south of the Sam Houston Tollway, west of State Highway 288. The applicant is proposing a mixeduse development called the Orchard at Lower Kirby with a base zoning district at general business and townhouse residential. This plan development introduces three districts within the development. One highdensity single family residential, two mixeduse commercial, and three a waterfront entertainment mixeduse. as well as a flex district that allows for any of the described districts. Each district has tailored standards for area regulations including parking, facade, landscaping, signage uh with a vision to create a pedestrianoriented urban center where residents and guests can live, work, play, stay, and shop. We have received no written comments or phone calls to date. and surrounding land uses include undeveloped land, the Ivy District, a restaurant, hotel, and a church, and manufacturing. This property is located within two place types within the future land use map. First is the town center place type as well as the professional services and industrial place type. And I'm going to move into a highlevel summary of the applicant's proposal. They are here tonight and have a detailed presentation for you all. So again staff is just going to provide a highlevel summary of each chapter and then conclude the presentation for the applicant to start. So chapter one goes into the

introduction, the name, the location, the size and the plan that and including details that the plan aligns with various adopted ordinances and plans that the city has today. Chapter 2 dives into the administration portion talking about the development process as well as deviations, establishing management districts and a property owner association. Chapter 3 really dives into the zoning and the land use section talking about the the districts as well as streets, phasing, block and lot standards, use standards, and parking. Chapter 4 discusses design standards including but not limited to building layout, design standards, materials, screening, parking lot and parking structure design standards as well as landscaping, open space, lighting and utilities. Chapter five dives into the streets. Chapter six is signage and wrapping up with chapter 7 and the definitions. The proposed plan development meets the approval criteria for a zoning change and therefore staff recommended approval of the proposed zone change of the plan development district. The planning and zoning commission met on March 2nd to discuss the proposal and overall they had appreciation for the quality of the plan development. They asked for clarification regarding the flex flex, excuse me, district and the multif family component and had suggestions related to some of the design of the PD. But overall, they voted 70 to recommend approval of the zoning change. And overall, staff encourages discussion around the following major concepts. one, the zoning districts and the concept plan, as well as the PD amendment and deviation language, the phasing plan, the highdensity single family product type, and the design

plan. And that concludes staff report. Thank you, mayor.

All right. Thank you for that. Don, I see you and your team back there. Uh if you guys would uh make your way to the podium, just give us your name for the record as you come up individually to speak for the record. And uh we look forward to presentation tonight. Thank you very much, Mayor, City Council, leadership, staff, on behalf of the PCD team. My name is Don Jansen and I'm the CEO of Play Developers and we're really excited to be here. Uh we have 15 minutes to do this, so I'm going to talk really fast. Um so we're excited to be here to once again share our vision for this project in Perilland. Appreciate the cooperation that staff and all the city leadership has provided to us. Um it's been um very accommodating to us although we've gone really really fast. Realize we can do nothing without your input, direction and concurrent. So we look forward to working with you all. Our presentation will include um Wendy Lewis Buckley with our firm and then Blake Coleman with TBG. So before we discuss the developer role, let me make sure this thing is going to go right. Supposed to go right. So um we're going to go through these four points. But before I discuss the role of the developer, um, what we'd like to do is really talk about kind of how we've gotten to where we are today. And somebody knows the history, but when you think about it, um, you've from a workshop standpoint, we recognize we're coming to Perilland, which is your city. We understand that. We have ideas and we have a vision but the true vision is what you set forth um many years ago. So we want to be respectful of that and we want to make sure that uh when we come to your city that our vision is your vision as well. So we know that what's very important is this that whatever we do first and foremost it benefits the community. I mean business is important but the community at large

is who's going to be using this mostly and so we are looking to how we can um create a project that really will benefit the community. So a bit of our history. So um and the history of the project there have been two other developers that have been trying to do this for 20 years. Well unfortunately it's in the same state it was in 2007 when Bass Pro Bass Pro moved in. The reason that the other two developers failed had nothing to do with their capabilities because they're both very good developers. It had to do mostly with uncontrollable market conditions. And unfortunately, we're going to experience those same ones in this. But ultimately, I think at the end of the day, you're going to say, well, with all that all those issues and headwinds, so why is PCD so excited about this? Because of Periland. Parland has grown. Perland is not the same place that it was in 2007. It's um the Texas Medical Center's growth, employment growth, it's a prime location, the access and visibility, pro business environment of this city, infill for South Houston, which continues to grow, maturing city ready for upscale uses such as class A office, a conference center, hotel, upscale restaurants and retail, and highdensity forale residential. From a lender perspective and investors, they need the assurance that our development plan can pivot and adapt to changing market conditions timely. Adaptability designed into this plan allows us to respond to the market demand to be successful in the long term. Development of the orchard requires a strong close working relationship with the city, county, ISD, chamber, and most importantly, the community. Having developed for 40 years, um community engagement is the number one thing we're going to do, and we're going to do it day one. We want to know what the city wants. So, we've started this already. We've met with the chamber board and we're going to continue meeting. We're meeting with the Laura Kirby um sure exactly what the name of it is, but

the Laura Kirby development group um on the 16th. So, now let's talk about the project. And so, um the role of the master developer, a lot of this might be self-explanatory, but is um we're the lead entity. We're responsible for the phasing. We're responsible for the team. We're the quarterback. So, as in in a sense, we're the conductor of this. So, we've got to prepare the law r the raw land and with infrastructure, road utilities, um sell service parcels to subdevelopers and builders while maintaining control over the overall vision, quality, and the design standards. So, where we are in the process is that we've gone through site selection, concept park. We're now in the entitlements phase and once this is uh complete we'll secure um the initial commitments and then go forward with closing. So one thing that's a trick with this is and it's a funny slide my grandson loves this. So um what we have to do is we have all these uses that are ideas and thoughts. How we put them together is like puzzle pieces. So that's what we're doing right now. the flexibility and the adaptability that we've been given by staff and by this group um hopefully is that we have the ability to arrange this in a way that meets the best um market conditions and is located in a way that creates a cohesive development. So Blake's going to come up now and talk a little bit about the goals and how we've gotten here with vision.

Good evening. I'm Blake Coleman with TBG Partners. Um this process has been very collaborative. This is our second time to come before council and we uh just really appreciate um how the embrace that we've received through uh city staff and in regards to how to translate uh this project into what the city really envisions um at this location. Um there's a lot of opportunity obviously um we've we've been very um thoughtful or or tried to be very thoughtful about how this relates to the periland prosperity plan and that's um the diagram on the right. Um, and we see so much potential to deliver on on many of the elements of the the prosperity plan. These are just a few of the the things that really jump off the page in terms of those opportunities that that we have to to really deliver um from cultural arts to uh business development to parks and recreation. Um there's really a tremendous opportunity here to to make a meaningful um uh area for for Periland obviously. So with that, we wanted to talk about what's the vision. Um and and we've since we've come to you last, u we've been thinking a lot about how this place will look and feel. Um starting with the name, um the orchard, we want this this this project to really embody. Um and when people come here, we want it to feel like Parland, like it responds to the people that live here. Um that it responds to the environment that that's created in Parland. um something that's that's casual but at the same time sophisticated and elevated um but but very welcoming. Um the the name Orchard is is responsive to the city's history and and identity as well. And that really just that name embodies what we we see happening in the built environment. These are just a few uh words that we think um when we think of of what this experience will be like. um things like

vibrant and green space, urban, uh inviting, uh nature, charming, elevated, um all these things coming together to create an experience that's that's not just your your average experience that something that's going to draw people um from across our region. So, this is a snapshot of the overall um design plan. And again, um, as Don mentioned, this is is is very much like knitting a puzzle together, um, to make sure that we're responding, uh, and placing uses in a in a way that's strategic and allows for, um, it to work within itself, but also, um, in context with the surrounding district. Um, we're going to go through in in more detail um, through some a series of enlargements on each of these zones. Um but but some of the things that that from a high level that that we we want to really talk about and celebrate are are how we're we're improving Bass Pro where we're leveraging that is really this vibrant pedestrian district that leverages the existing water and waterfront. Um and that starts to transition through walkable streets to uh single family and and different product types that that come in um in the the highdensity residential zone. And then again leveraging the the the network of trails and open space that's already emerging in the district and already is existing and and weaving that into into the project. Um this is just a diagram. You can see on the bottom right, it's a little small, but um the big idea is is is just that through through open space, through through a trail network um that's that's that's connecting to the broader system. Um we really think we can deliver a walkable people first um uh experience. Um and when we say uh streets, we mean that intentionally. We don't want roads that are going to be uh just car movers. We want to really slow the traffic down, deter traffic where possible. um around our district and really make the

pedestrian experience um safe, shaded um and really uh what sets this district apart. So, we we've I mentioned we've been thinking a lot about what this district will feel like and and what the experience will be um being the the gateway into Perland and even into the coastal region to the south. Uh we really think this can play uh or have a very um laid-back um almost a coastal architecture um interwoven into the into the project. Um but doing so in a way that's cohesive so that all the different product types, all the different uses are really cohesive and and done in a way that that feels intentional. Um, and not just like it sever several different projects, but really through through uh just curating the architecture and and look and feel, creating this this um this this unique identity. And these are just another kind of another uh set of images that that depict um really how people are going to experience this um and and the architecture and and the buildings become a backdrop that's that's really secondary to the the people experience through trails and open space and parks. Um things that really um where people are are going to live their life. And at the end of the day, we we we see this as is as is as the new gateway to Parland. Um, and you can start to see uh some of some of how we've structured the the um boardwalk environment around the existing Bass Pro to really leverage that that as an anchor on the north end. Um the the proposed hotel and convention site there in the middle. Um and then our our village retail experience that's you can see is very pedestrian scale. Um very walkable. um cars are kind of pushed to the edges and then we're we're

uh responding to the the freeway frontage with with uh proposed retail and then residential there to the to the south on the the top of your image. Um just in terms of the zoning plan, uh we have um uh basically uh four different districts um or four different components. the the MUC, which is um the conventional retail mixed use. You see that? That's the pink area that um fronts the the feeder road. Um the what we've called the WEIMU, which is the the walkable mixeduse um oriented uh to the water. Uh that includes the Orchard Plaza. Um that's the the the orange area. And then um our highdensity residential, which is not a use, it's actually embedded in the flex district. And the flex district is u composed of those three. The the highdensity residential, the wiu or the muse. So it's a it's it's intended to allow flexibility uh to adapt to any of those um those uses within it. And then of course we have the the open space, the dedicated open space which is in the green. And that doesn't include the the the code required uh internal open space that would be embedded within each of these development parcels. Real quickly, we'd like to go through um and show you some of the product types. So, what you're looking at is the highdensity single family as well as this is the flex area, but it also includes one multif family project. So, there are a number of different product types that are out there in the highdensity market. And um to the top right on your screen, those are town homes. The middle would be more uh garden home related and then the bottom is live work. This is an example of a muse that would go through the middle of one of the

highdensity um projects. And what we would do is use this actually for utilities. So we're going to have to figure out how to do the trees, maybe move them to the right a little bit, but um because you have to get the utilities in amongst what you're seeing here is really town homes. We've got to figure out a way to make all that fit together in this highdensity environment. So they have very small front yards, but everyone to have a front yard um to be able to enjoy some flowers or some landscape. So this is a series of different types which would be all different product types, all different looks. Um you're going to see everything from what would be a hardy board exterior with a blend of some kind of stone. We really like the stone products. Um I know that in talking with the builders, we've talked to 10 of them. kind of all depends on what the preference is for that community. So, what we're showing here is a really collage of all different from town homes to duets to um individual top left um lots and the type of homes and then the bottom I mean middle on the left that's a single family home as well and then the bottom left is actually brownstones. So once again, more looks at how you start seeing how these are integrated. And you know, with a little trail, there's not much room in front of each home, but it's kind of meant to be that way. You're kind of living next to your neighbor and the people that are walking around you. That's just inherent. And um we see that in these types of projects. And this is just a diagram showing what what Don had mentioned just a second ago about the the product mixes. Um, so within the highdensity residential, we're we're envisioning a mix of of of different product types, um, from duets to town homes, um, fourpacks. Um, really we want the flexibility to be able to come in and really not only adapt to the market as as as the project develops, but also what this does is it it gives

the the single family area a lot of a lot of more diversity uh, and interest. So, um, you know, I think, uh, what we don't want to have is a homogeneous, uh, repeat of of the same product throughout. Um, this having more flexibility and a mix of of product types is going to make it feel more organic, like it developed over time, like like a true city. Um, and so that's that's part of a not only a design strategy, but also a way for us to to respond to the market in the mixeduse commercial district. This is actually a the 288 frontage that shows a retail shopping center. Um, there would be multiple uses that are going to be included with this from restaurants, entertainment, retail. Uh we're also exploring restaurants that would be maybe along the 288 frontage but group them in um say four restaurants together with green space in the middle. So there are ways to do things that are maybe not traditional. They still fit and provide that walkability and green space that we're trying to achieve. The next three slides are multif family and um what we're specifying and what we've worked with the city on is these have to be the high-end uh upscale um they're called a Gurban product. I didn't know what that was but it's um actually an urban product four stories and but you can see that they have a lot of different looks and treatments. Um in this one you can see the bottom left the amenity area they're fourtory. Um, these are very high-end units and the rents uh are commensurate with being high-end as well. Um, this is Katy Crossing, which is once again a four-story product. Stone, brick. Um, you can see the amenity center with a fireplace. And then this just shows and demonstrates how the different roof types. Once again, four stories, but there's going to be the attention to hiding rooftop

unit. So, there's going to be a lot of attention made in the design of these. So, we're very um cognizant of the fact that they have to be upscale units. And when we get to more the retail, the top left is actually a group we're talking to, which is a very high-end fitness facility. On the top right and left, um you can see examples of shopping centers that we actually built in Sugarland, which is adjacent to Sugarland Town Square and the mall. And so, um, once again, this is more of a low-rise building, but it has a tower element that kind of creates an upgrade experience. The bottom right, we can't say the name that's on that picture, but we really hope we can get them to come here. Um, so when you look at this, this is more smaller concepts where once again, if you look at the top left, very unique design with a little side patio. The one at the top right, more of a cluster of buildings with green space in the middle with a sitting area. um and then three centers across. Um we really like some of the architectural themes and ideas that our architects are showing us. So I think you're going to see a blend of all different types. And then the waterfront district um in the very focal the center focal point of that is the hotel hotel conference center and then everything kind of comes together around that. And so, um, you can see there's a central gathering space immediately adjacent to that, very similar to what we the plaza that we built in Sugarland Town Square. We have little clusters of buildings, retail around that. There's some waterfront retail, which we're really excited about that. We have already have three restaurants that really want to be a part of the waterfront district. Um, once again, it's kind of a villagy concept. Um there's an office building kind of the bottom right if you would supported by a parking garage that would actually support the hotel conference center in the retail. Um there would

live work units which are kind of the brown on either side of the garage. They flank the garage. Those are live work units. And so um it really as we've mentioned before we really want to try to activate the back of the Bass Pro Shops. Bass Pro Shop has been kind of the lone ranger for years and we've had a lot of discussions with them how we can work together and so they're really excited about the fact that they can open their restaurant up that closed many years ago and also they will actually have two entrances. So you can imagine how their sales are going to increase we hope um with the additional people that we're bringing. So in talking about the hotel conference center why is that important? So for us in Town Square and with four other projects in the Houston area, I mean they all started with Conference Center Hotel, City Center, the Woodlands and Sugarland Town Square and actually U Springwoods. And so those were the first components of those mixeduse projects. They create the gathering space that we need. Uh high volume traffic while enhancing the live workshop play environment. With the increased foot traffic, hotels boost the economic value of surrounding residential and retail spaces. Probably one of the biggest is it attracts headquarters locations in town square. We attracted the Minutemade Corporations, world headquarters, CVR, which is a publicly traded company. And the two reasons that they wanted to come to our project at the time, this is back in 2007, was because there was space for training, board meetings, and they were able to host visitors. So um it provides a 247 activity shared services that the community can use which are gyms, restaurants and lounges. So this is a view of from the south to the north. On the bottom left you can see an office building. In the very middle is kind of that villigy concept with the focal point being the green space, the central gathering space, the conference center hotel. Top left you

can see the waterfront dining on the water and then to the right bottom right you can actually see a multif family project and then you can see the the retail that's along 288. So these are a lot of just examples of pictures whether it's hardscape or greenscape you can just see using festoon lighting open walkable spaces in the background you can see office buildings coming up in the distance so you just start getting a sense of what it looks like and how they work together. This is a collage of three different looks at that. Some dark buildings, some lighter color buildings, some hardscape, some greencape. So there's a lot of different ways to arrange these puzzle pieces. So we're considering all those ideas. And then these are just a group. This is a group of buildings that we get ideas through the urban land institute just to say before we start, what do we want the theme to be? Blake used the word uh coastal. Well, what does that mean? I don't know. But it's somehow it's got to fit together and and pull the project together and make it unique to Periland yet sophisticated and urban feel. So when you look at all these different projects, top left, that's the yard. Great concept that we'd like to get here. you can see the outdoor dining and just, you know, I don't have a lot of time to spend on this, but you can just get an idea and a sense of how those are all um high density, but they're all um well done with with green space and the ability for people to to utilize and activate. So, in the phasing plan, uh what we're doing is starting with the initial phase, which is mostly residential. I mean, as they say, rooftops to to retail. And so what we're hoping is that this can kick the project off and get people going here, living here, whether it's multif family, whether it's the highdensity single family, doesn't really matter to me. It just needs to be in a nice um high quality structure, whatever it is that starts to activate this. The subsequent phase is actually going to go with the initial phase. And

the reason I say that is we're already we have tenants that are already saying we want space in the subsequent phase which is the 288 frontage. So we see the commercial as important as the residential. You can see the phasing saying that it's more residential focused because that's where we're starting but we see both of those mirroring and working together. Okay. Yeah, I just heard we're running over a little time, so I'm going to go quickly over these. Um, wanted to just call attention to some of the language in the PD in regards to minor deviations and major deviations. Um, minor being those which staff can come in and approve. They're not going to they're not drastically different. Uh, they don't deviate from the the main intent of the PD. Um, they give us flexibility to work through minor items with staff. The major deviations would be those that we would come back before before council prior to approval. Uh NPNZ. Um just a few examples that are that are mentioned in the in the PD. Obviously textural textual um edits and things along those lines, spellings, things that aren't um uh they're trivial items to the PD. Uh numerical standards. So, we we have some uh language in there that will prohibit us from exceeding um or making more than 10% changes to any any any use. Um and then again, there's no increase to the multif family or residential density um uh whatsoever. Um things like district size, street alignment, those are all things that we think um we'll we'll be modifying um to adapt to the plan and the uses. And as we put together this puzzle piece as Don has has coined it. Um so we we have we've built in some flexibility within the the minor deviations table to allow for that to happen. Um street sections we we anticipate certain things happening on

the streets um that we'll have to adapt for things like drop offs and uh on street parking things along those lines. um the building depiction as well. Those are are are graphic in nature. As we start to to develop or or have discussions with actual tenants and users um and the plan the uses come together, those building types uh and and plan illustratives will be modified accordingly. And then again, similarly, the parking descriptions or depictions, those will those will also respond to the to how the site's developed. So those all being minor deviations. And then this is the uh the the lot development table. Um we've we've based upon based our PD on the um the Perland uh townhouse and general business um zoning plan. So you see those standards are in the red. Um our our deviations are there in the black um for reference. Um

good evening mayor and council. My name is Wendy Buckley and I'm the managing partner for PCD. And tonight I'm going to quickly cover the administration. What happens after all of the approvals are received? How do we move forward and how do we keep everyone um within the boundaries that we've established? Most of that will happen through the documents that are created which includes the PD that's um for consideration also restrictive covenants and design standards that will be put in place for the districts. Uh we want to create a vibrant, walkable, secure and cohesive environment. And as we start making land sales and having new partners come on to um address specific um components such as single family or multifamily, commercial, we need to be able to give them the guidelines so that they can be part of the environment that we've um designed. Um that will be mainly handled through residential and commercial POAS or associations. Um the residential will be separate just due to Texas um HOA laws um which turns the association over to the residents at one point. We envision that the commercial association will be longstanding and managed um um from a long-term view from our organization so that we can continue to implement our goals and then also utilizing the existing um district that's in place. Our responsibilities through the associations will be to maintain common areas, activate event space, enforce community guidelines, manage shared amenities for things such as a dog park or pickle pickle ball courts, things of those natures, and then also balancing the needs of property owners. When you have a variety um of users on a mixeduse development, they all have different priorities, and that's going to be an important part of what the association handles. And then we also want to make sure security is a part of what we are focused on with the districts and the associations. Kind of an eyes on the street surveillance so that we can dis discourage crime and

create a welcoming environment. And that will be a priority that we work with um with the district and hopefully the police department so that from day one we we define what is going to be allowed within our community. And then finally, special events are going to be a big part of the mixed use. We need to promote um economic development for the retailers that are there. And so we want to um create meaningful traffic. We don't want events just to have people. We want events that meet goals which will um include things like fostering a sense of community and also um driving economic um business for our stakeholders that are there. And then we also will have a board that's part of the association. Goals will change as the project evolves. We may be setting new goals but that the board will be a part of that process. And then programming priority is a big part of this section and that is about the um association having the predominite along with the city to control the spaces that can be leased and then they may be leased to outside organizations but the association and the city will take priority in being able to utilize those spaces. And then there's just a few pictures that are here just talking about the what the space will look and feel like and then also what type of events we want a community events again things like movies community tables where people come together for chef wine festivals and live music always bring great economic boost to our retailers. So as we envision the future I mean these are slides that you've kind of already seen. is just the waterfront dining. To the right of that is the um conference center hotel and and um back behind that would be an office building. Back behind that is multif family. So um this is from the south looking north. We've already looked at this uh plan, but once again focus on office and

conference center hotel and then the villagy concept with the waterfront dining. And this once again it talks about that that's a great place that everyone in this room would like to go. That's what we want to do. We want people to want to come here. Community gathering, place to feel comfortable, safe, bring your family, create memories. And so we we just we love these pictures and that's what we want to try to create. I've already shown you this. This is the muse that's amongst the town homes. And this is the future. So this is what we want to create. We'd love to work together with you to create what we think is kind of a new perand, a new idea. It's the gateway to Parland. So with that, thank you for your time and attention and we look forward to addressing any questions.

All right, thank you Don and team. Uh we'll get back to you with questions in just a second. Open it up as in this public hearing for those wishing to speak for or against this proposed request can go to the podium, give us your name. You have three minutes to speak. Second request, those wishing to speak for or against this proposed request. third and final time. Those wish to speak for or against this proposed request. Seeing no one move in that direction, we'll move it and open it up for questions, comments, concerns from city council. Have a rift.

Thank you, mayor, and thank you so much for the presentation. So, I know that some of the parcel falls within the 100red-year flood plane. So, how does that impact development and flooding concerns in that area? So, we're going to add a lot of dirt to the project. I mean, as we do, as you can see at the back right is going to be a new off-site detention. All the detention is off-site. There's no on-site detention. I mean, we we're bringing this from prior experiences, you don't want mosquito ponds, which are little bitty uh detention ponds everywhere. So, we're grouping that into one. So, the dirt that comes out of the detention pond is going to be piled all in spread. Thank you. All right. Questions, comments? Mr. Patel?

Thank you, Mayor. Um, Don, I know we've talked about this a couple of times and um I guess I'm going to get to the hotel component. Um, previously last year you had said the hotel was not something you guys were looking at and then earlier you said this year hotel was a key component. So, where are you guys with that component? Finding a developer, figuring out if the numbers work if if that's not going to happen, then what's the likelihood of this project?

Sure. No, that's a great question. It's you start and you continue and you evolve. And so, we put it under contract last June. I didn't really think that even though we when we designed this, it is the key component. I didn't know it was that significant to this project. The more we researched other um successful mixeduse projects without that more and more that is a key component. I'm not saying it's not going to be successful without it. But the plan B looks a lot like what you've seen on this project before which was retail multif family without something that is a regional draw to perand. And a big piece of that is as we meet with the community people, we experienced this in Sugarland, the business part is very important attracting the corporate headquarters. The more we look at this, how are you going to drive corporate headquarters to the city of Preland? What is the component? What's the key feature? You're getting life sciences. They're going into warehouses and distribution centers with pretty fronts. were those corporate headquarters like we were able to drive to Sugarland which is I said this already the Minuteade Corporation CVR that specifically said we're coming to your project because of this component. So the more we saw this more we talked to people on the community aspect side of it. When we did this in Sugarland we took all the people that were going into town. I mean everyone I mean how many fundraisers do you attend Rishi every single year? Well,

right. Three to four.

Three to four, right? So, you don't probably don't do those in Periland. Maybe you do. I mean, maybe some of them are here, but what we experienced in Sugarland was they were getting in their car, driving down their freeway to the Galleria. And these are 600 to 800 person uh events. And there's probably, I don't know, Wendy can tell you, we probably booked 20 of those a year. Maybe not just the four you had, but the other 16 that all the other groups want to attend. And these are$150 to $200 a person events. I mean per person events. So we found that now we're able to capture the community events and keep them in Sugarland. Well, that's a huge component of the revenue that drives the the conference center and community center. So, the more we looked at this, it it doesn't make sense. Not I know there's an economic impact to this city both um something you have to weigh as a council but there's a huge economic benefit that when we had our conversation with you in uh with the EDC board and with the city council the numbers prove themselves up that the city can afford it because of what this demonstrates in food and beverage tax sales value and also um just the the sales tax alone. And so we have that example in town square after 25 years of experience that shows what those numbers are. So the more we saw it, the more it needs to be the component that drives everything. It is the regional component that makes this project different from any other project in Periland and really in the southern region. So that's really what has driven us to say that is a critical part of this project.

Sure. And so and I look forward to that study and and I guess what you're asking

I'm sorry I didn't answer I'm sorry let me answer your question about the developer. So I know that a biggest one of the biggest risks for cities is having to front the money. You know you're the one taking the risk and you hope the project works. I'm talking about for the conference center hotel. So we have found a group that is performancebased meaning they will put it in the ground. they will actually risk the money because they believe in the project and then as they perform you reimburse them. Totally different approach to even what we did in Sugarland at the time. So I think that's a different concept. They've been in the hospitality business for years. Um it's something that they're they're now staffed to actually do these types of projects. meaning they have someone on their staff that has done community partnerships, the public private partnerships and in I believe it's McKenna and some areas around the Dallas area. So, they are staffed to do this and so we're excited about what they can do which is unique in the way they approach this, but they've also been very successful in operating hotels across the country.

Sure. and I appreciate that and I look forward to the study I guess you guys are going to get done u so we can sit down and I guess discuss your asks um more importantly I think earlier uh someone on your team alluded to uh security um you know as you know this corner is very close to south Houston right

um one of the concerns I have is you know our PD and and I'm I've requested that data which I will get hopefully in a week or two uh is the number of calls we are making to Periland Town Center. Okay. How do you propose something different in your security whether the burden is not on our PD as much and are you going to have your own private security? Are you guys having your own security camera systems to monitor the entire property? Um and so what's your game plan on that? Okay, that's a great question. That was the number one question that we asked when we did town square. What we've done is because PMMD has the ability to u work with us from a security standpoint. In our project, we had what's called the first colony management district. So, it is a private group that's 247. They monitor the first level of all buildings and parking garages. They have their own um command station that monitors by cameras. They also are hardwired. Hardwired. That's an old term, but anyway, they're connected to Sugarland PD by way of license recognition. And so they're constantly connected to Sugarland PD 247. So we really the worst thing that can happen here is that we build this project and there's crime and people don't want to come. That's the death nail. And we we hit that head-on in Sugarland because that's at Highway 6 and 59. It's very commuter oriented. I mean, people can get there, commit a crime, and they're gone in no time. Very similar to this. But, I mean, the instances of crime because we actually have a board and we can actually show you the results have the crimes that are committed. Um, and we because we we manage the association that's the first county management district. So, we can show you real data as to how we've been able to combat that, working with the

city to prevent the crimes. You can't prevent all of them, but if you catch them, they're going to go somewhere else. Thank you, Don. Mr. Koser. Thank you, mayor. Thank you, Don. Um, I know, uh, in our community, we have real heartburn over multifamily. Um, and you've got multif family in here. Can you talk about the, uh, the, uh, numbers, what the maximum numbers, that type stuff, so public would know? Sure.

What's in this in this development? So the the prior approval was much higher than ours and so we thought well let's be sensitive to the fact that that multif family needs to be a balance here. It can't be overpowering for this. So we've agreed to,00 units as a cap. Okay. And uh that's in the the flex area of the development. Correct. I'm sorry. That's in the flex development. It's throughout the project. The entire project it's 1100 units. Okay. So, it could be multiple, not just one large multif family.

I mean, we kind of envision it two that are in the 300 to 350 range and then one that could be a little bit larger. If you look at the plan top right that's next to the conference center hotel that's planned. that could be a larger um project if you would because it's going to support the what I would say is more the urban section but um by and large the projects are roughly 350 units a piece that seems to be the sweet spot for those type projects. Okay. All right. And um when uh you're talking to member Patel about the security aspect what was your question? I I said when you were talking to member Patel in regards to the uh security aspect.

Yes. Um, how does how does the security interact? How say something happens, whatever crime is, um, the the security people detain the person until PD shows up. How do how does it work? Okay, I'm going to let the person that actually manages that speak. I know it, but she's better at this. Fair enough.

So, uh, with in Sugarland, we we do run the management district for First Colony, and so we have a direct connection through radios to the dispatch with PD. And so basically they're the eyes. So they're reporting. You've got extra eyes on the ground that are always looking for things that are um that aren't um normal or they're interacting with retailers. And so they would be in eyes and ears and support with the PD. And so that's one component. So there's contract security that's the base component of it. And then in first colony we also um have an interlocal agreement with the police department. And so we also pay for specific police level security um for holidays and then if there's any type of crime wave or just during um like spring break and things where you see a little bit more activity.

All right. Thank you. And uh Don back on uh follow up a little bit with member Patel as well on the uh study. What kind of timeline would we be looking at to receiving to where we kind of sit down and digest what you what you come up with? I'm sorry. The timeline for the study on the hotel.

Oh, um I think it's going to be ready well in the next week and then the developer has 60 days to actually look at the study and evaluate it with his team. So, I would say within 75 days, I think you're going to have a response back and it's going to have numbers. It's going to have the number of rooms. It's going to have pretty much everything about the project um renderings because we we've just been through this on another project with them. So, we know kind of how they work and how quickly they work. So, we have firsthand knowledge that they can actually perform in that time, right? because they've just priced a similar project to this. So, they're not starting over. They're not reinventing the wheel with this. Even with the city, they have numbers in responding to what the ask was there. So, I think they can respond very quickly.

All right. Thank you, Mr. Carbone. Thank you, Mayor. Um, you had a slide that talked about phasing. Um, can you review that a little bit more? Sure. I guess in in terms of that initial phase, but you said subsequent's going to kick off right at the beginning as well.

Yeah. The subsequent the initial I mean these are all kind of um mixed together because I wish a project like this was fit into these it would fit into these perfect little boxes like this. This would be just great. But um I think what's going to happen is which is a really good thing, a very positive thing is we thought we were going to start with the residential like literally the residential which would be multif family and high density single family that was going to kick this off and we're thinking as we go through that the retail is going to come along. Well, because of the 288 frontage and some prior relationships we have with some retailers, they're already telling us they want to come here. Now, I want to oversell that because, you know, anybody can change their mind, but they see the opportunity with the waterfront dining. I mean, it's already there. I mean, it's something that they could put a restaurant there tomorrow. We would just We're working with Bass Pro where they have a field that is actually between They gave me this pointer, but it never really works for me. But I'm going to try this out here. So, um, so see right there, that's actually a field and it's not parking with Bass Pro, but we could do parking there and that parking would support these two restaurants that would be right there. So, there's already utilities to Bass Pro. We would have to do an extension of utilities. But, I guess what I'm saying is we don't see this as an initial phase, then a subsequent phase. It's really more a matter of how can we get utilities there. We want to develop it as fast as possible. We really do. We want this to come together so you see it not in pieces but actually happening as one part happens another part is happening as well because the residential people we're talking to is some of their commitments are well when you build retail then you know call us. Well that's great but there are two others that are saying no I believe in you. I I see what you're doing here.

We'll go ahead and come now. So, I know it says initial subsequent, but I think you're going to see a lot of these pieces come together um simultaneous with the initial phase. That's just kind of our our vision and what we're seeing in the market.

Yeah. I mean, I like I like hearing that. Um I guess the question is, can can we put that into the PD document somehow? um so that we're not sitting here with a big slug of of residential and because really I guess the exciting part is you I've had residents asking when are the the the when's the fine dining going to come and when when are we going to get this this dining or that dining and um so I mean I think that's that's going to be the exciting part for the citizens is having those options and So, all looks good, but I'd like to if if there's a way to move that some of that up u still give you the flexibility, but not say, "Hey, we're we're going to go build all this residential and then the commercial comes five years later."

So, it's actually in the PD. We can't build all the residential and not do retail. We can't we can build we can build two multif family units and we have to do the retail. So, it's actually designed that way in the PD. I mean, we've had lots and lots of discussions about that. So, we we understand that and we've agreed to that. You concur. Yes, sir. Good evening everybody. So, the initial phase if it in turn if the initial phase turns into two multif family projects, they have to provide 20,000 square foot of single family or if the initial family or if the initial phase turns into all highdensity single family, they have to provide 20,000 square foot of commercial retail. Yeah.

Yeah. Commercial retail and that's the initial phase there in the purple. All right. Thank you.

Well, and let me just one last comment. So, I want fine dining there, too. But if you when you go to the retailers and these fine dining restaurants and you say there's nothing there, but I'm going to put you next to Bass Pro. I mean, they're not going to come. It takes really building and building and let it create and that it gets a sense of identity. It's like we phased town square and we had one phase. It was the hotel and the conference center and a little bit of office and then we built the park and then we built city hall and all of a sudden said, "Oh, this is really a project that's going to happen." And so you start buying into it. You just it's like working with the city to grow the awareness and the excitement and the activation of this project. It's not easy. I mean, otherwise there'd be something there already. If Bass Pro was an anchor that would attract all those people, it would already be there. So, I'd love to say that we're going to build a retail first. It just unfortunately doesn't work that way with a project like this. And I hope the answer is sincere and transparent because we're trying to be that way with the city. It just takes some momentum creation to get, especially the fine dining guys. They're the last ones to come. Member Carbone, if I may, and the the PD doesn't limit them from going into the subsequent phase. If if their market shows that that's ready, so they don't have to build out initial phase before they can start on subsequent if that if something happened and they found users, they could build those whenever they're ready.

All right. Thank you. I think one of the things that's going to help with the initial phase is you have the Ivy Lofts right next door that um I I don't know what their leasing is at. Last time we were out there, they were at 95%. So I I think that's going to help because it's on the ground and it's sitting out there by itself. You've got town homes going up next door to it. I know that's not part of your project, but it's next door to your project and it it's going to probably help with uh with your retail along uh 288 and subsequent restaurants just because they're on the ground now. And as you build more uh rooftops, it's it's going to activate your your your your retail restaurant services probably that much quicker. So it's it's probably a help for you. Uh certainly not a detractor. Probably

one of one of the hardest things in this is the daytime restaurant traffic, right? And so once again, not to beat the drum of the conference center hotel, the conference center hotel, if it leads to office, then all of a sudden you can support the restaurants that have the lunchtime. Otherwise, they're just going to be open at night, right?

Which like Jonathan the Rub has announced that in their new project, they're only going to open at night in Bridgeland. Well, it's because they don't have the density. You've got to have the density during the day through office and other uses to be able to support the retailers, the restaurants at lunch. It all kind of works together. Thank you, mayor. Uh first of all, Don, thank you to your team for being here uh for the presentation. Can you talk a little bit about uh traffic? Um you know, when I see this large development, I I I my mind goes to um you know, we hear often the traffic con congestion that we have here in the city, especially on the west side of town, 288 to and from exiting the city, entering the city. Um, can you elaborate a little bit about what you've seen, what y'all have done at other locations and how y'all going to address traffic?

So, we have to prepare a TIA. You you probably know that that we had to do a TI to really understand traffic flows and patterns. And so, our job is working with parking consultants and professionals that would look at this project and say, "This is how the flow of traffic will work. This is how internships needs to need to occur. I mean, Tex doesn't like exits off of frontage roads, but we're going to approach them and try to get another one on 288. I don't know if we're going to be successful because they're not real easy to deal with, but uh I shouldn't say that nonpublic. I mean, they're actually very easy to do. I can't wait to work with. But so, I think it's just a matter of all the entrances that flow through the project. I mean, how the streets are designed and we're like Blake was talking about, we're going to have on street parking. So, it's it's the probably the most difficult thing to I mean, it's it's a good problem and a bad problem. All the people coming, you have to deal with them. And so, we were able to do that in town square. We were able to manage that through entrances, exits, the width of streets, u where your parking's located. It's it's not an easy thing. I may say that it is, but we have professionals that work with us to manage it the best it can be managed.

Regarding security, and I know that you are a little bit more um you know, a little bit more about that security topic. Um did I hear you right that y'all have contract security as well as y'all in certain areas y'all actually employ the local law enforcement uh for certain occasions? Yeah, our program is the day-to-day is through contract security. We're providing patrols 247 to all of the commercial properties and then we supplement that with a higher level which are um official police officers. And so we work through an interlocal agreement and um with the security district that we have in First Colony, the police chief is a board member and he participates and sends um command staff to participate in those conversations. And so we work very collaboratively um to address crime um talk about ways um to add security and then we actually schedule security based upon their recommendations. We have a pretty heavy um program from um Thanksgiving all the way through New Year's. And so um in that capacity we utilize commercial dollars um to be able to add security at really high crime high crime times. I would like to see as a former law enforcement officer myself, I'd like to see the communication between you guys and the police department and city uh to see if contract um security and how that would how beneficial that will be. I know that I go to different areas around Houston and um there's nothing diff I mean there's so much differences between a a local police officer patrolling an area versus a contract security huge difference now I know why it's done because it reduces cost and a contract you know security contract is different you know costs

less in most cases but I would I would really like to see how that's going to develop out, you know, as we move forward. Uh, I'll end also on this that I am looking forward to the hotel study and the studies that y'all are going to do. I think that at the end of the day, you said it earlier that there is a risk and I I'm, you know, there's a lot that are all eyes are on that. What is that risk? What is that financial risk? What does that look like to our taxpayers? And so, obviously, a lot of attention will go into that. Everything else looks great, but how is it going to be structured? What are the, you know, what are the asks going to be from the city? Um, there's so much ahead of this. Um, but I just wanted you to know a little bit about, you know, concern about traffic, something that I wanted to bring up. Uh, security being, you know, a big part for me. Um, and then I look forward to that study. Thank you. Let me say one more thing about it's really not so much the the security as it is the convenience for the people that are coming to our project because 90% of their calls are like a dead battery or um I lock myself out of my car. Well, you don't need to call the Sugarland Police Department or the Parland Police Department to unlock a car. So, if nothing else, you're you're having the kind of day-to-day inconveniences, which are really, if you respond well to them, they have a great experience when they're there, and then you leave what would be the real crimes to uh the PDs. And so, that's kind of where we work together. And it's worked very well.

Yeah. And I would I would add that I'd let the experts kind of speak on on on that, but as much as we're talking about the small stuff, obviously large nice developments as we see already attract criminals and as they get attracted, you know, we have a really good uh public safety, you know, department and our police department, fire and EMS do an amazing job. And um and I I think there's a huge difference between contract security and actual police officers. So um I won't I have opinions, but I would really like to see a you know a followup on what if we have another workshop or whatever uh what y'all learn from the you know speaking with the police department here. Thank you

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, and just in reference to the underlying PD, you know, I'll be in support of it. I think it's a great plan. Echo a little bit of what member Carbone said. We hear a lot of when when are the nicer things coming, where when are the nicer restaurants, the nicer retail, but on top of that, we hear a lot of why do I have to leave Perland to have my major event for for my my fundraiser for my my large community event. and we hear a lot of wanting a walkable living, an outdoor environment just like what you're you're proposing here. So, I'm excited to see it to come together. Obviously, there's a lot more work to do beyond just de putting together tonight the the underlying zoning and the PD and ju just for the u public conversation because not everybody has been involved in all the other conversations that we've had. You you're excellent at teeing things up for me. Thank you. Um when when it comes to the ask, we we've made it clear with you guys uh privately and just make it clear for the community that any type of ask that exposes our general fund is something that that I don't think this council would support. Um so just knowing that going into it when we start looking at the numbers at the end of the day, yes, it's a great development. I think it's the marquee thing for for Perilland. It's the last major development for the for our community. It's it's right there at the entryway like you said. Um but we ultimately have a responsibility to protect the taxpayer dollar.

Y so totally protecting that general fund protecting protecting EDC funds because we have other priorities we've got to make sure are getting taken care of in our community. We're still recovering from exponential growth for the last 20 years and trying to catch up on some of those things. So um just I know we've already had those conversations and apparently our meeting's over. Um, so what happens when I start? Wait, I put another corner in. No, it's back. We're back on you.

Um, uh, so just just wanted the general public to know we've had those conversations putting that in the record on the record as well. And and final thing I'll say is I very much appreciate y'all's approach to this entire process. It's I wasn't here for the previous ones, but from what I've heard from other members that were here for the public to understand, this has been night and day. Um, so it really feels like a partnership that we're trying to develop something great for our community and and I appreciate that and I'll be supporting your project moving forward. Thank you. Thank you very much.

All right, I'm going to finish up. Don, thank you. Um, you and your team. Uh, number one, choosing Fairland. Uh there was a tract here. Uh something attracted you. You guys came, you put it under contract, and you guys have I'll echo what the mayor pro Tim just said. You guys have followed through with your word. You follow through with what you say. I like the approach. Uh, I am one of the guys that was in the room with uh with all the previous developers um all the way back to Pogan Mchuan and we were caught up between them and the guys at CBL and it was a race to see who got what tenants and Hogan Mchuan hooked their wagon to Bass Pro as a complete paradigm shift in the arena and it didn't work. At the end of the day, it didn't work. Um, on one hand, I'm proud to say we're probably the only community in the United States that got a Bass Pro Shop with zero incentive. Zero dollar incentive. Probably can't find another one anywhere that that most of the time it's around $20 million to get a Bass Pro Shop in your community. We have one and it didn't cost us anything. But it's also greatly underperforming sitting out there. So, uh hopefully u the development coming in and around it and for anybody that wants to know that'd be a long talk on a back patio somewhere. I give you the war story between the two and it it was I could write a book on what went down in Periland, Texas between 05 and '07. I mean, it was a it was it was pretty amazing to watch it and live it out and see it. Uh but here we are. It's the last major corner in our community uh left to develop and I think we have said it from day one. We want it to be

marquee because it's so high visible the the visibility coming in. Uh we've spent a a tremendous amount of money through EDC efforts and others and beautifying that corridor coming in. And so we want something there that is going to be a a cornerstone for Perilian. Uh, I've always wanted where yes, we want people in the community to be able to stay in the community and and go eat and and and have entertainment and all those kind of things, but I also want to be that community where people in Sugarland go, I went to Parland to eat last night. You know, they're in Katy, I went to Parland to eat last night. You know, if they're in other parts of the greater Houston area, they're coming here because of the attractions that we have. And uh so I'm excited to see where this is is moving. Uh I like uh and I'll echo I support hotel conference uh concept. Obviously the devil's always in the details when you get the numbers back and the final uh developer and how all that looks. Um because I think it is a cornerstone that will make a difference in this in this particular uh development. I won't have a vote tonight, but I certainly welcome you and your team and and want to see this uh move forward and subsequent meetings and thresholds that we'll get to down the line. So, uh with that, uh we will close this public hearing and move to new business item number one. Mr. Carbone, would you place that on the table, please?

Yes. Thank you, mayor. Consideration possible action first reading of ordinance number 200M-281. So moved. Second. We have a motion and a second. We've had staff report as well as questions, comments, concerns from council. With that, Madam Secretary, a call for the vote. Member Carbone. I. Member Chavia. Hi. Mayor Prom. I. Member Cade. Hi. Member Fernandez. I. Member Patel. Hi. Member Kosa. I. The motion passes seven to zero. All right. Back to public hearing number two. Uh Katya will do the same drill.

Thank you, mayor. This is a request by Ashley Montalvo, applicant on behalf of Ikbal, John Quad, owner, for approval of a zone change for 13.256 256 acres of land from general commercial district to light industrial 1 district generally located south of Mard Road west of Macau Road. The applicant's intent is to reszone the property to allow for industrial development of the property. As of today, we have received zero written comments and phone calls. Surrounding uses of this property look like undeveloped land to the north as well as a gas station and a convenience store. Hickory Slooh to the south as well as a Paraland ISD maintenance facility. To the east we have detention and to the west is single family residential. On the future land use map, this um parcel is identified as public use. And looking at the criteria, this project proposal does not meet the comprehensive land use plan and meets two of the approval criteria. And with that, staff was unable to recommend approval of the proposed zone change to the M1 district. And the planning and zoning commission voted 33 at the February 16th meeting, which constitutes a recommendation for denial, which means a supermajority is triggered for this request. And that concludes staff report. Thank you.

All right. Is the applicant present?

So uh no applicant uh here not even to answer questions. All right. Um then with that we'll move to those wishing to speak for or against this proposed request. Go to the podium. Give us your name. You have three minutes to speak. Second attempt. Those wishing to speak for or against this proposed request. third and final time. Those wishing to speak for or against this proposed request. Seeing no one move in that directions, we'll open up any questions, comments, concerns from city council. Seeing no one, the only question I have is it has a it does require supermajority for passage. Correct. So that would be six out of the council. Right. Okay.

Mayor, sorry. Um, one question. Uh, did the applicant show up to the PNZ hearing? They were in attendance. Yes. Did they know that they could come today or they just chose not to? They did and they did not send a presentation today and we gave them a phone call towards the end of the day and they said they were not going to come. Okay. Thank you. That's fine. The only question that I had was just a general question. This is a This backs up to existing residential properties on the what would that be? The east side of it. Correct. West side. Sorry. West.

Yep. On the west side. Even though it's zoned general commercial, it's residential properties. So my question is in this application that's residential properties, but it's zoned commercial. If this were to go in, would they have to do screening still? Even they would that is correct. Okay. I just wanted to know for future understanding of this kind of dynamic. I know we do when it's commercial to residential, but it's all zone commercial. So, it's just clarification on that. So, I appreciate it. Yes, that's correct. The unified development code identifies even if it is a residential land use in a commercial zoning district that the buffer requirements are met. Okay.

Existing rules. All right. Any uh other questions, comments? Seeing none, seeing none, we'll close uh this Dr. public hearing and we'll move to new business item number two. Miss Shavaria, would you place that on the table, please? Thank you, mayor. Consideration, possible action, first reading of ordinance number 2000M-280. So moved. Have a motion, a second. We've had staff report as well as questions, comments from council. Madam Secretary, we'll call for the vote. Member Shvidia, no. Mayor Patro, no. Member Cade, no. Member Fernandez, no. Member Patel, no. Member Kosa, no. Member Carbone,

no. The motion fails 0 to 7. All right. Moving forward in our agenda, uh, item number three. Mr. Bum, would you present that, please? Certainly, Mr. Mayor. Consideration possible action resolution number R206-CU24-24-1. So moved. Second.

We have a motion, a second. Staff report. Thank you, mayor. This request is for an extension for a previously approved conditional use permit that was approved on March 24th of 2025. The proposed land use is an auto wash at 1705 Broadway and the vote was 4 to3 with a list of conditions that are on the screen relating to landscaping, gravel, tree preservation and vacuum systems. The applicant has expressed that there are some delays with the with delays obtaining um an approved building permit and therefore they have requested an extension of one year with this council and I'd be happy to answer any questions.

Okay. Uh is the applicant present? Hey, go back to the podium real quick while he's on his way back there. Uh, so Vance, what what hold up, if any is on this building permit and when was the building permit submitted? Oh, I can get the date when it was submitted. I have that email. Um, however, you know, the the submitt they're working through serving the property with sewer. Uh, say that again.

Serving the property with sewer. And so their original plan, it got in came in, it got submitted, and you're welcome to speak to it. Uh however, after looking at it with staff, it's not going to work for getting sewer down to see farm to the site. And so currently, there's evaluating another option, but there's not there's not negative plan review or there's no nothing like that wrong with the submittal process. Okay. Uh go ahead and just for the record, give us your name for the record. Yeah.

Yeah. Russell Nelson with Lonear Builders. So I represent the the tenant on this who's also the applicant. Um, so yeah, I just want to speak to those delays a little bit. There's actually been a couple of the sites had a few challenges um that we don't normally see. One, it is in a a flood plane as well. Uh, so there's been some um some work and coordination that's had to be done there, but um and also a texttop permit, which you know that that takes time as well. Um, but the biggest one for sure is the sewer availability. And initially uh it was submitted and proposed that that be brought down from Dixie Farm Road along Broadway. And then after that first round of comments, there was some a lot of back and forth. I know many of the staff worked with um Jorge Guer who's the the engineer for the landlord. So on this contract, the landlord is responsible for those off-site improvements. So, we are the applicant for the CUP and we've just been kind of waiting on that and coordinating with them. Um, but where we are today, uh, there's a lot of momentum. It sounds like they're anticipating approval on this next submission for the text dot access, uh, the flood plane mitigation with, uh, Brazoria drainage district number four and the city, uh, as well as this, uh, the sewer. So, I know he's been working closely with the the city engineer and the engineering department and I talked to him last week and he's very optimistic about it and he thinks this next round, which which it sounds like they're getting close to resubmitting, but they're they're they're optimistic that it should get approved on this next one. And then us as the as the developer um and the tenant uh you know, we're we've been working along well with our uh reviews of the plans and um with those approvals, we should then be able to finalize ours and be be done, you know, quickly. So, and then we're ready

to start construction immediately afterwards. So, um there's there's a lot of good momentum now. We had some hurdles early on and and throughout this last year, but I think we're getting really close. Yeah, I I I that's good context because I wanted to, you know, ask a question and that and just to make sure that this wasn't just sitting for a year and all of a sudden we've had Fast Furious, you know, work right here at the end and, you know, and and those types of things. But it sounds like um how to how to deal with the sanitary has been a a real issue um that that that took a little bit of time to to figure out. Um, yeah, because sometimes asking for these extensions is a hurdle and uh and can be. So, I I know you referred to the landlord. Who's who's the landlord? So, um there it is. Let me make sure I get the right entity correct. Is that the VI Bros LP? Sorry, I got it right here. It is And just while you get

and Morfield LLC is a landlord Mayor Cole the permit came in in May of 25 and that's when the sewer item was identified. There was a couple rounds of comments and then we haven't seen anything since November. Okay. Yeah. So they they they got on it immediately, identified the hiccup, and have been looking for alternatives since then. Okay. Yeah. Well, but they've been they've been well, I think we've gone through four rounds of our civil comments, right? And building as well. And then I know the landlord's engineer has gone through a few rounds as well. And I think they're getting really close to doing this final submission.

That's fair. M K. Um, I'm curious. Didn't uh didn't this same company build a car wash on 35? Were there delays there also? Not aware of any delays there, but yes, there is a quick on 35. I thought it took a while. They did have some issues with their landscaping plan matching the approved building permit and staff and Quickquack coordinated to ensure that there was um that the plans were matching what was on the ground. Thank you, Mr. Patel.

Thank you, Mayor. Um, so I guess you know you barely passed this pole a year ago and you guys are waiting till the last minute. Tell me the engineer is not here today. Are you guys 90% done with the engineering drawings? Do you have an approval from text or you've on the f I mean you keep saying you're very close. Yeah. And I'll tell you there's a car wash on close to 35 I mean sorry 518 and Cullen we gave them two extensions I believe where the next to that Dairy Queen and they still haven't come back now I've heard that lands for sale and they're they're quitting the car wash business but I mean as the same point I was never in favor of this so I'm going to vote no but you keep saying that so I think you're on the very you're on the edge on this you know that right?

I do now. Okay. I'm glad you do because I'm going to tell you, you don't have your team here who can answer these questions and you're struggling. Yeah. What question do you need answered? How far are you with the engineering? When when do you think it's going to go into the city? So, he said that he should be submitting within the next two weeks and then just those review times. Um, we imagine a month after that we he's anticipating approval on that. And what about tech?

About the same. They take about a month on their reviews and they've already gone through several rounds with Tex dot. There is no drainage uh needed for Tex dot. There's no drainage there. So that's good. This is just access. Um and we had they've had to adjust the access a little bit and they did that several months ago and have gone back and forth and that he thinks this will be the last round. Okay. Good luck. Thank you, Mr. Cos.

Thank you, Mayor. Um, I was yes on this project the first time and raised my hand about how poor I felt the one on 35 was done and you're following in the same trap. Um, how you answer these questions today, I'm sitting on the fence or you might have lost it if I go the other way. Um, I went through on March the 8th at approximately 4 o'clock on your uh one on 35. Have you visited that facility? Uh I I visited it during construction. Okay. But not since it's been

No. Um on on March the 8th, uh we had a decent size rainstorm and I was really shocked. I don't know uh what the issue is, but the drainage on that facility was horrible. Um, I drove through around and the the water within the facility was about halfway up. Um, and it it looked like no water was draining period at that facility because the whole parking lot around the actual tunnel itself had water halfway up the concrete. Um, so to me with the with a poor performance on the first one, um, and then actually visiting the site on March the 8th, approximately 400 p.m. in the afternoon, uh, and then having this, it it's really a struggle for me to get to it. Yes. So, I I I'm not real impressed with with uh what was car wash number one and now where we're at today with car wash number two.

Yeah. So, this one had additional challenges that the first one didn't have and I'm not too familiar with the challenges with drainage on that one. I understand. Okay.

Challenges not a problem. The first one to me watching it being constructed was a challenge from day one. And y'all were not very good neighbors to the people uh in your area. I got multiple complaints from people with the way the uh construction crew, the way the materials were being delivered. Um I had multiple issues with the construction site while it was being constructed. And so this is a real struggle with me on this one. So I'm just letting you know.

Yeah. And just to back that up, we got numerous complaints of materials being uh dropped and utilized on property next door not owned by the development and and you know, land owners going, you know, what the heck, right? So uh that's that's some of what he's he's speaking to there. So, and here you've got neighbors on both sides of this and uh it just goes to performance and it goes to, you know, those types of things. Mr. B,

I know this site is quite a bit larger than the other one. So, there is a lot more staging area and uh room there in the back. It kind of is kind of an L-shape. Our our average site is an acre, some a lot of times even less down to 6 acres and this one's quite a bit larger than that. So, I know this one does have a lot more room for that. Um, so we don't anticipate any issues on this one. That one was a little bit I'm not too involved on the construction side, but I was hearing things as well. Um, and I know they've done a lot of work on that construction side to try to improve things the last couple of years.

Um, yeah. So, first of all, from from staff, and if if it maybe needs to be an email response rather than getting into real detail, that that's perfectly fine. But looking at the satellite imagery, there's commercial property on both sides of this currently. So, how is sewer not here? Like, how are those structures being serviced? Why are they having to come all the way down Dixie Farm and get over to the building? I'm just curious how that's being serviced. Oh, thank you councilman. So this this particular site 1701 had sewer service it had a force main service that dropped the flow to the eastern site 1635 plaza but that since it is an old project site there was not sanitary shore easement. Normally we need sand arrangements. So there's no center shor line along Broadway street. It just flows to the east to the neighboring property and the neighboring property center system takes it to Dixie Dixie Farm sewer system. So the initial initially it was designed to uh take the flow from uh this project along Broadway to Dixie Farm that didn't work because that is involves lot of traffic issues and construction issues. So we recommended that can you look for the alternatives which would be easier to construct and will not uh require lot of text dots uh involvement and approval too. That's the reason they're looking for getting the flow on the northern side of south side of clear creek. So there is 24 duties. That's what the city recommended. Can you take check take check take a look at it and explore this option. If that holds, it will be easier for you to discharge the flow from your

property to the east to Dixie Farm Broadway and they have to uh kind of record easement for that because we would not allow centers from one property to other property without the easement. So that's what they're working on and they have submitted the uh construction plan. We reviewed it and we gave them the comments back in uh probably November. So since then they are still working on it and they have to get a permit approval from BD force since it touches BD force facility and they have to get permit from text dot for the driver access which is normally uh it shouldn't be big uh issue for text dot to give the access because it has already access but they are asking them to relocate so that it is not sitting next to the next driveway so to to minimize the potential traffic hazard. So the eastern side the west side of that property I don't know probably that is unsepttic but I don't see uh any san line coming from west of that 1701 property so I don't know how that works probably they have a safety system for that property for the south side the Walmart Walmart has its own center system that takes flow

so did I hear you correctly that on this property part of the property may have been using a septic at one point and part of the property has a force man. No, this 1701 this has a force main but that is very small force main that is for probably uh residential property before it it is it became quick quack property so it has uh forcement system but to today's standard that is kind of not allowed because we will not allow the flow from private to private it has to go from private to public sand system.

So the existing system is tied into the system where Bayou Grill and CC's Pizza and all that is to the east side, right? But we're saying they can't do that. Yeah. With the new guideline, we won't allow that because that is going to be illegal. It's against our ordinance. So that's a UDC thing or it's an ordinance thing. Okay. Um I

was going to say if I could just interrupt, I don't think it's a UDC thing or just an ordinance thing. I think that that actually um tracks language inside the international plumbing code. So it it would be a state thing as well. Okay. Um so for you guys as far as developing this property and you know I I remember we talked when you came the last time this was a a tough lift to begin with um because car washes are getting less and less popular by the day in the general um public view. So, what due diligence did you guys do on the front end? And you talked about kind of finding out that it's in the flood plane and that being a problem and now apparently text's asking you to move your entrance and now there's the sewer thing. So, can you walk me through kind of the due diligence you guys did up front before acquiring this property?

Yeah, good question. Um, so we we knew it was in a flood plane from early in the process, probably over a year ago. Um, so, uh, the landlord has been working through that grading. It's it's in their responsibilities to provide the grading and and drainage for the site. So, um, that that's been on on them to work through that process of of fill mitigation and getting those approvals done. Um, when we when we got the cup done, that's when we ordered our full civils. Um, so that that takes a couple of months to work through that, identify the utilities. We had a survey done of course to identify existing utility locations, coordinating with the landlord on those locations. We knew immediately sewer was going to be an issue um a after we got the survey done. So we knew quickly on that. Um so we also worked internally on our side with with the landlord and and with Quickquack to work out the legal side and the compensation and and all that as well. And then we I think our first submitt was last summer. Um, so we worked through that whole legal process and how we were going to handle all that over a couple of months between the end of March and and into summer for our first submitt. And at that time, that's when they started working with Texot. Um, that process just takes a long time. We've done a ton of those. I think the landlord's done a lot of those working with Texot. Um, it just takes a while to get through that. They did request the access to move. It is moved now on the plans. It's ready to go back. ETS they've um that should be good to go. Um uh the the sewer they the landlord thought they had a solution for that first submitt last summer when they submitted. Uh the feedback that came back was that that uh that first proposal probably would not work out. So they basically had to go back to the

drawing board. Uh I know they came out here on site several times, got new more survey work done. uh met with the city several times um and that's when they decided to try to go through the back through that uh utility easement on the back um and do a do a force man on the private side do a lift station there on on on the private property and then run that line into the utility easement. So, that's all been going on for all last fall and and into the winter um and until now. And and I sounds like they have a great solution and they're just putting those plans together to resubmit in the next couple of weeks. So, like member Kosa said, I I supported this project when it when it first came up the last time. And part of the conversation we had around that was we we try to be business friendly on this council. We try to let the market really kind of decide what things happen and what things don't. Since then, the one on 35 has opened, as has the it's a Mr. Car Wash or something like that, a little further down on 35

on on the opposite side of the road. I I drive that numerous times a day. And I'm not in your world. That's not my arena, but those both seem to be dead most of the time when I drive past. I don't go by in the late evening, so maybe it gets busy at night, and maybe you could speak to that, but it seems to me that they've got people standing out on the street spinning signs trying to get people to come in there. So, it concerns me that the market is no longer there. Maybe it's changed that quick within a year. Um, but it it does concern me that it doesn't seem like the market's there when we've got two brand new ones that seem to be largely unutilized on on a pretty consistent basis from what I see.

Yeah, that's a great concern. Um, Quickquack is one of the fastest growing car wash companies in the country and they spend a lot of time with their feasibility analysis, market research, um, especially in growing communities. They look at uh car wash densities. Um I mean car counts and anchor tenants, all that stuff. They It goes to a committee for review and approval. Um the feedback we've been getting is is really good in this area. Um this we have several car washes in the whole Houston region. Um they also work well clustered. Uh it's a subscriptionbased model for our customers. So if you if you buy a subscription, you can go to to any one of them. Um so when you when you cluster them, uh it even performs well. They boost each others up. Um and and when it comes to competition, I I mean we look at that closely, too. Uh we we've built them directly across the street from some of our competitors. It all comes down to that market analysis. And honestly, I think competition's good. If we're the new car wash coming in, we have to provide an excellent service if we want to try to try to win customers. And and the car wash that's already there, they need to do the same. They can't slack off. They've got to step it up, provide a great service, be clean, well-managed um upkeep. So, I think competition's good. I know the market is still uh good for this location. Um and uh the word we're getting from QuickWack is they're still full seam ahead um on this region and at this location.

Okay. Um and sorry just to just to circle back to that point doing all those committees and due diligence and um determining what the market is is looking at and then the result like I said the one that I drive past regularly on 35 seems to hardly ever have a vehicle in it. Occasionally there is when you drive by, but it just doesn't seem like it's driving a bunch of traffic, much less justifying opening another one a few miles down the road. So, I am struggling with that. But just for clarity on the sewer, um, when did you determine that sewer was not going to that you didn't have sewer service to this property? When did you say that happened?

Again, that's on the landlord responsibility and so they own the site. Um, we were discussing this with them like last summer um on on the challenges there. I could look at the exact date. It might have even been um right after we got the cup. It might have even been late spring, but we knew about it pretty early on that there were going to be some challenges with uh with sewer. So, initially we were looking at uh running a line from Dixie Farm Road, which is is expensive. that's that's running that line quite a ways. So that's when we got into this discussions on who was going to pay for it and there was some negotiations that took a few weeks or so. Um and then that's that's the path that we went forward on with with the landlord until we got comments back and then had to go back to the drawing board. So there's been just a lot of back and forth and coordination needed as we tried one approach for sewer and that didn't work and then had to go back to the drawing board and try different approaches and had had many discussions with with the engineering department

and the landlord is not here. Correct. Uh no. All right. Thanks Carbones.

Yeah. Um yeah, I was a yes vote round one. Uh after seeing the show on 35, literally dancing ducks or whatever and getting complaints from multiple citizens and then um from the the neighboring businesses south. I'm I'm kind of with with KOSA and it this this is a struggle uh especially for this location. Kate, final up.

I I did want to say Vance, you I heard you say that um something about November. Y'all you replied to them in November and you hadn't heard back since. Uh yes, ma'am. So, the last comments we sent were November 13th. Uh or let me scroll down a little bit. So, the last comments we sent were November 24th, excuse me, of 2025, and we've been waiting for them to resubmit. Thank you. All right. I just kind of wonder why Quickquack's not here. Well, I'm representing Quickquack. We're the developer that they uh that they hired to to do the permitting.

Um before I close it, uh the conditions. So, go back to the conditions and this was approved by NZ by 43 vote of note. Um that was that was back in last year. So these these conditions are already in it. Yes. So that's the that 43 vote would have been y'all back in March of 25. Got it. And these conditions are already there. Okay. It it it threw me off with the with the conditions going back through that. All right. We'll close this. We're not It's not a public hearing. Uh we got so used to the public hearing. I uh was thought this was a public hearing.

With any other follow-up questions? I don't see any. Madam Secretary, I'll call for the vote. Mayor Poten Byum, no. Member Cade, no. Member Fernandez, no. Member Patel, no. Member Kosa, no. Member Carbone, no. Member Chavadia, no. The motion fails 0 to seven. All right. Thank you for that. Uh, moving forward, item number four, Miss Cade, if you would uh present that, please. Thank you, mayor. Consideration and possible action resolution number R2026-54. So moved. Second.

We have a motion and a second. Staff report.

Thank you, mayor. This item awards a contract to McCarthy Building Companies to provide electrical, mechanical, instrumentation, and control services for all of our water plants, our water wells, wastewater plants, and all 70 approximately 70 lift stations. Uh these services were bid out to establish the hourly rates for electricians, shop rates, field service rates, and the markup on the parts and materials. And uh McCarthy provided the lowest cost as well as the highest evaluation scores. Um we are increasing the amount of this contract over past years. Um still within our uh allocated budget to ensure that the contract accurately reflects our needs, our true asset maintenance requirements uh to repair and replace plant equipment and components as they fail or reach the end of life. Avoiding deferred maintenance that ends up uh shortening the life of our assets. So part of our overall asset management uh and and uh and our team that's overlooking our water and sewer assets. Uh so with that we recommend award in the estimated amount of $4.5 million. Thank you.

All right. We'll open up for questions, comments, Mr. Kosa.

Thank you, Mayor. Um David, I would like to say that uh when I read this uh this weekend, thank you. Uh I I uh as you well know I'm I'm all about maintenance. Uh if we spend money on an asset, we should take care of it, not uh let it run into the ground to to maintain something. So uh thank you for your your uh team's effort in uh getting this to where hopefully we can get on the right right track of maintaining our assets and taking care of stuff. So thank you very much. Any other questions, comments? Believe they are here. McCarthy here. Um, with that, uh, yeah, they they've endured a lot, so you know, so, uh, I mean, they're they're here for the long haul.

Exactly. So, with that, Madam Secretary, we'll call for the vote. Member Cade, I. Member Fernandez. Hi. Member Patel. Hi. Member Kosa. Hi. Member Carbone. Hi. Member Chavia. Hi. Mayor Podum. Hi. The motion passes seven to zero. All right. Mr. Thanks for hanging out, guys. Yep. Thank you, Mr. Fernandez. If you would present item five, please. Thank you, mayor. Consideration possible action resolution number R2026-27. So move. Second. Have a motion, a second. Staff report.

Thank you, mayor. This is a software maintenance contract uh with Aztec systems which is our city works software uh it'll it locks in the pricing for the next three years and this is the asset management system that we use for public works parland water parks department and other areas for our asset inventory management and work order system as well as the uh PLL uh software system which is used out of community development for permits, licensing and land. Um, and this locks into pricing for the next three years. Um, as indicated in the AIR, 216,300 this next year, 227 and 238 the following two years.

All right. Any questions, comments from council? Seeing none. Oh, sorry. Real quick, uh, Trent, does this keep up with assets that you guys are disposing and selling or auctioning off as well? It's uh more of our uh public infrastructure assets, not necessarily all the assets that are considered assets within the the city overall system. Um that's tracked out of I believe finance and if you're talking about and then um you know hardware and software or hardware equipment and servers and things like that tracked out of it. Okay,

this is more of your water lines, streets, uh components within the water plants, wastewater plants, sidewalks. I got it. Thank you. Any other questions, comments? Seeing none, Madam Secretary, call for the vote. Member Fernandez. Hi. Member Patel. Hi. Member Kosa. I. Member Carbone. Hi. Member Chavia. Hi. Prom. Hi. Member Cade. Hi. The motion passes seven to zero.

All right. Other business, there is none. Mayor council issues for council discussion. There was none. It's my understanding we're pulling exact session. Is that correct? To a future date. Uh hearing on that got moved. So with that, we'll move to adjournment at 9:20. Remember to take the recommendations of the charter review commission, discuss those after a public hearing. We'll have a public hearing, then go into a discussion time when the council can actually decide which, if any, of the proposed amendments that you would like to send to the voters. Also, at that time, if there's other amendments that the council sees fit to recommend at that time that go to the voters, you could do that as well.