City Council - Regular Meeting

You ready? All right. I don't have a gavel, but it's 630, and I call this meeting to order. Please join me for the Pledge of Allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

We'll observe a moment of silence. Thank you. Announcements, awards, special recognition, 2026 Parade Grand Marshal.

Good evening, Mayor and Council and Peachtree City citizens. I'm excited to be here today to announce our 2026 Grand Marshal for the 4th of July parade to celebrate our 250th year for the United States. It is Major General Harrison. He's a retired United States Air Force. And we've got a little brief video to kind of give him like a bio for him. Okay.

My name is George Harrison. I'm a retired Air Force veteran. I spent 35 years in the United States Air Force flying mostly fighters, some staff jobs, and now I'm a full-time volunteer at the Commemorative Air Force here in Peachtree City, Georgia. In addition to that, I'm on several charity boards that try to take care of veterans. I do a lot of counseling for veterans with the their entitlement, what they need to do to get enrolled in the VA medical care program, for instance. Yeah, I started out a kid in high school, applied for and went to the U.S. Air Force Academy in Colorado, graduated in 1962, pilot training standard, then checked out in the F-4 Phantom II, went to Vietnam for one full tour, I had one temporary duty tour as a Burndog pilot, forward air controller with the Vietnamese Army, then back instructed at Homestead. After serving as an instructor in the Phantom, I went to graduate school at the University of Pennsylvania, did a couple of staff jobs, then back to Thailand, again flying over Vietnam, North Vietnam, South Vietnam. Back again, another staff job, and then commanded a weapons test squadron at Eglin Air Force Base. I went to War College, had a tour of the Pentagon as a test and evaluation supervisor, then back to Fighter Wing, then back again to the Pentagon for a two-year tour in the Joint Staff, planning contingency operations for U.S. military, then to Europe as the Director of Plans for U.S. Air Forces Europe, back to the Pentagon in studies and analysis. Europe as the Director of Operations, then commanded the Air Force Test and Evaluation Center, Retired from the Air Force and then Georgia Tech for 20 years as a research engineer. Here at the Commemorative Air Force, I'm one of the pilots. We have seven flying primarily World War II vintage airplanes. We fly them to air shows. We sell rides to make money so that we can keep them flying. And our mission here at the Commemorative Air Force is to educate and inspire young folks and keep history alive so that people understand the importance of World War II, how it changed our nation, and how our nation developed as a result of that conflict, and remembering what Tom Brokaw called the greatest generation, the people that actually fought the war and made sure that we continued as a free nation. My name is George Harrison, and I've been invited and honored to accept The position of Grand Marshal for the Peachtree City Fourth of July Parade.

Thank you. Thank you, Michelle. Public comment.

Yes, Mayor and Council, we have six individuals sign up to speak. The first person signed up is Jennifer Hinton.

Good evening, mayor and council members. My name is Jennifer Hinton. I live in the Summit neighborhood in Peachtree City, and I'm a parent of two year-round swimmers. I understand that the renovation of Kedron Pool is moving forward, and I want to thank you all for taking the time to listen to parents and swimmers over the past few weeks. As you move forward with this project, I have a few requests that I hope you will consider to help minimize impact on swimmers and families during construction. First, I would like to ask you to consider pushing the construction start date from October to March. I believe that would have less impact during peak swim season and it would provide more flexibility because there are many more outdoor pool options available during the spring and summer months than during the winter. It would also give families and programs more of a buffer if construction extends beyond the projected 10 to 12 month timeline before the next winter swim season starts. I also hope you will continue exploring the possible use and heating of Glenlock pool during construction because anything local that helps reduce travel for families would make a huge difference. I would really appreciate continued communication throughout construction. including updates on timelines, temporary options, project progress, and when swimmers may realistically expect to return to Kedron. I also ask that the pool remain open and usable for as long as possible until construction is truly ready to begin. As design plans continue to develop, I would appreciate opportunities for the swim community to review plans, ask questions, and provide feedback. Thank you again for listening and for continuing to work with the families and residents who rely on Kedron throughout this process. Thank you.

Thank you. Next, please.

Next person is Abriel Rose. I no longer need to speak.

Thank you. Thank you. Next, please.

Bob Grove.

Thank you, Mayor and Council. I'll keep this sweet and short. I want to thank the Parks Department and Public Works for the fantastic job they did Friday and Saturday of last week with the cleanup. They were friendly, very efficient. and quite handling the lines that showed up tremendously through the two days. I just want to thank you and thank you all for going back to that process that we've had in the past.

Thank you, Bob. Next, please.

Zach Christensen.

Good evening, mayor and city council members. Um, My name is Zach Christianson. I'm a rising junior at McIntosh High School, and I'm honored to have the opportunity to have held discussions with our incredible city councilwoman, Laura Johnson, regarding the creation of the first Peachtree City Youth City Council. I sincerely appreciate her, my peer support, future members, and all the local government's efforts in consideration of this prospective committee. Many ambitious young individuals within our community hold immense potential for creating impacts locally and within our wonderful city. Unfortunately, this ambition and these voices are often simply limited due to the lack of an immediate and practical outlet for communication. The creation of this Youth City Council primarily aims to fulfill our incredible youth's ambition and provide pragmatic means for our voices and thoughts to be heard and turned into real action. By creating such a council, the often distorted barrier between the youth and the civic world is broken down, fostering a true connection between the young minds and local leadership. a connection that affirms that the youth voices matter and their ambition can lead to real results within the community. With a designated committee to factor in the unique perspective of Peachtree City's young minds, we are able to create lasting civic relationships that can lead to tangible action that addresses the unique needs of every age and individual in our community, whether it be in the form of event organization, recreation, or interactive programs. We want to create engaging civic events and activities that tie the youth of this community to the city providing an avenue for long-lasting memories and experiences to occur. There is immense opportunity within our thriving city for such experiences to flourish, and the Youth City Council aims to play the fundamental role in effectively realizing and orchestrating these events. The prospect of this council also presents the unique opportunity to strengthen the relationship between the rising generation of this city, ensuring that Peachtree City remains in responsible, determined hands for decades to come. The Council provides the foundation for the future of civically involved individuals who share their mutual love for this wonderful city. Maybe most importantly, the creation of this Youth City Council can convey a profound message to the members of its community. That Peachtree City is a place and people that listens and values the voices of all of its constituents, regardless of age or any other defined category. This admirable message may inspire the youth to persist in their participation and involvement with the sustaining of this community and its subsequent generations, ensuring that the premier and remarkable nature of Peachtree city is preserved for decades to come. Thank you so much.

Thank you, Zach. Well done. Next please. James Clifton.

James Clifton, Fielding Ridge Precinct. Tonight city council will make an important decision regarding the future of the Kedron pool. While there are multiple options, including repairing the existing structure or building a larger new swimming facility. Another aspect of this dilemma isn't getting as much attention. The concerned swim families of Peachtree City and Fayette County need a path forward during construction that doesn't include a long commute into an unfamiliar community. A large part of city council's focus needs to be on finding temporary accommodations during construction so that scholarship opportunities and physical development are not lost through a protracted pool closure. I've personally spoken with local businesses and neighborhoods with swimming pools that are interested in hosting the swim teams if the Kedron pool is closed for an extended period. Some of you on council have spoken extensively about public-private partnerships. This is your chance to show the community how critical that connection really is. While it's not possible to come up with a perfect solution, we can come together to create a plan that minimizes the burdens. As construction occurs, we can also begin discussions with the county and school board about a county pool facility. However, I want to reiterate that a county pool isn't a solution to the immediate problem, as it would be many years before it would become a reality. To avoid similar issues in the future, I also want to urge City Council to take a proactive approach to maintenance and budgeting, and to stop kicking the can down the road on critical infrastructure. We saw a similar problem arise just a month prior with deferred stormwater infrastructure maintenance that result resulted in our stormwater tax bills doubling going forward. As the school year comes to a close tomorrow, let's send these swim families home with a plan that gives them confidence in the future of competitive swimming in Fayette county. I'm looking forward to seeing city council and the community come together for a solution to our Kedron pool problem. And I, like many others in Peachtree city. I'm happy to assist in whatever way I can. Thank you.

Thank you. Next, please.

Keith Larson.

Good evening, Mayor, Council. My name is Keith Larson. I live in Plantsier Place in Peachtree City. And I want to welcome and wish you a happy National Bike Month. May is National Bike Month, and it is an opportunity for the cycling community and communities together to celebrate safe cycling, promote cycling opportunities for recreation and commuting, and to get to school, and to look ahead to how we can get around by bike. And so there's a whole series of events and activities throughout the month. But there are some things I want to highlight up front. First of all, thank you, Mayor and city staff, with publishing a commemorative proclamation and a custom city logo with a bicycle and the silhouette on your Facebook page. Thank you for doing that. Thank you, Public Works, for maintaining and extending our PATH system, which helps us all get together. And thank you, Recreation and Special Events Department, for your crews for installing the new custom bike racks across the city at city facilities. And also the newly installed bicycle repair stand and pump at Drake Field that was donated by the Southside Cycle Club. Thank you, Mayor, for coming. Last week we donated – we – Mark commemorated the donation with the Dick Ellis's family in memory of Dick Ellis for his many years of community service. We lost it last year in cancer, but you know, he was a great guy helping out at close, less traveled. And he ran, uh, for 30 years, bikes for needy kids, thousands of bikes. repaired and returned to kids in need across our region. So with that, um, thank you very much and happy national Pike month.

Thank you.

Next please. There are no further speakers. Right. Agenda changes.

Council. No minutes. May 7th, 2026 city council work session minutes. Can I get a motion?

Madam mayor, I have a change in there. Um, May I say that before you want a motion?

Yes, please. Okay.

In the section regarding the – let me get to it on my screen here. But getting to the council staff topics, I had spoken about the level one drought, and the times got backwards in there. It should be from 10 p.m. to 4 a.m., not 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. Just AM and PM need to be switched, and then it's correct. That's it, Madam Mayor. All right.

I'll take a motion with that corrected.

Madam Mayor, I'll make a motion that we approve the minutes as posted with the one change on AM to PM in the level one drought section. Second.

I have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. Consent agenda items a through F. Can I get a motion? Madam mayor?

I move that we approve the consent agenda as submitted, which includes the youth council.

I'll second second. I have a motion in a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed motion carries. Thank you. And we have a youth council, excuse me, and we have accepted a five, a very generous $5,000 donation for Memorial day and back to school bash from Ryan homes. at Huntcliffe, so we thank them for their generosity. Old agenda items, we have none. New agenda item, 526.05, fiscal year 26, purchase of new HVAC equipment for the library. Jonathan Miller.

Good evening, Mayor and Council. I don't think it's on. I think it's on. Is it on? Okay. This item is for the purchase of four new HVAC equipment for the library. It's a capital improvement project under the 2026 fiscal year. We're actually asking to go ahead and proceed with the purchase. There's an 18-week lead time on manufacturing the units. And we have a deadline or a sunset on using the grant in July that we got for it, which is $150,000. So we'd like to go ahead and purchase it. We've already reached out to the city's contractor who does all our HVAC, Shoemake. They're willing to store this equipment as we finalize everything else we need to install it. So the cost of the new equipment was budgeted at $550,000. and it falls within the original budget. The amount would be to award the purchase of the four new HVAC units for the library in the amount of $504,542. Thank you. Council, any questions?

Yes, I have one.

Anyone else does?

Is this a not to exceed bid?

Well, this is actually just for the purchase of the units. So there's still more work that needs to be done ensuring codes are met as we install those. So there may be other items that need to be addressed for the library in this full upgrade, because those units are over 20 years old. So codes have changed since then. So we haven't fully gotten everything from the mechanical engineer on the design.

installing but if we don't purchase them we risk so we'll get them they'll be stored and when the time is right when you get all the other details done then they'll get installed down the road one do you think that's going to be completed what's your general guess on what that's going to do

Honestly, I don't have an exact timeline. I'm working with Dan and a couple other people. We're having to outsource some of that engineering, so we'll continue to, as we get closer, we can provide that information.

Thanks, Jonathan.

All right, can I get a motion?

Madam Mayor? I will make that motion to approve item 05-2605, fiscal year 26 purchase of new HVAC equipment for the library. I have the number of 550,000, is that correct, Jonathan? No, it's 504,542 dollars. 504,542 dollars.

To Shoemate. Can I get a second?

I'll second. I have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. New agenda item B, 520606, reimbursement agreement for the new Meade Recreation Complex Road. Justin.

Thank you, Madam Mayor. You all approved the construction of this driveway. Around six months ago, we added it to our paving rotation with our paving contractor. This is the driveway to go to the Girl Softball Complex parking at Meade. So it'll be a second driveway entrance into the Meade Recreation Complex. As part of that paving, we are entering into an agreement with Rockaway 30 LLC, which already has an approved development right there. For town homes, the original design of those town homes was to have a driveway cut onto Rockaway Road. But looking at the area, we really don't want them to have, we don't want more driveway cuts onto Rockaway to create more traffic coming out at spots so close together with Summerbee, with our entrance, with theirs. So we got them to agree to have their development actually come off into our driveway that we're building now. So as part of that, They agreed to do a cost split with us of the driveway and of the stormwater for that for the construction. So the total cost of the project, including all the stormwater in the pond was $652,580.50. We did a calculation with them of how much their driveway would have cost them to come off onto Rockaway. And then the stormwater that we had to do was pretty much all there's I think 98% of it. So With that calculation, the reimbursement that they're gonna give us is $238,169.50, which is about 36.5% of the project. And we have already started construction of the driveway. And did you answer my text? The driveway should be completed in about two to three weeks. So you all already approved for us to construct the driveway. This is just for Rockaway 30 to reimburse us for that construction for their portion.

Thank you. Council, any questions?

It looks like they paid a little over a third of the cost, even though it may be close to what their usage will be, if I understand it right.

Well, the stormwater, yes. The stormwater was what the impact was from them, which was most of it. Right. Because ours was just the driveway. Theirs is their entire development. Okay. the other portion that was calculated was the actual driveway costs, the asphalt and the, and the actual road that calculation was based off of what they would have, what it would have cost them to actually build a driveway onto Rockaway, what it would have cost them to not do the agreement with us.

Um, so, and that turned out to the 238,169 50 that they ended up paying us. Yes. Good. Thank you.

Council. Can I get a motion?

Madam Mayor, I move that we approve the cost share agreement with Fayette Rockaway 30 LLC for a new road into the Mead Recreation Complex from Rockaway Road. Do I need to state the amount on this? It's not in the recommendations.

No, it's just the agreement.

Okay.

Second.

I have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. New agenda item C, 5-2607, hand bill ordinance number 1255. Ted Meeker.

mayor and council this is an update we had not touched this ordinance in about 10 years and based on some cases and some other issues that had arisen it was time to revisit it and update it i will tell you that we modeled it after one that roswell had adopted um i thought it was a very good ordinance and looking at what other jurisdictions had done but this i believe is a more constitutional version of a handbill ordinance than what was on the books

Can you share the short version? I see the bullets here. Distribution of handbills in inhabited private premises.

Not just that, but the other issue we're looking at was public facilities as well and what can be done. That was the big issue that had sort of come up within the last 12 months or so. And short of that, we had a... I think it was a car, a Cam Jasmine that I know we'll be talking about a little bit that also touched on this issue. That was another reason why it came up. So we consolidated, got rid of the car and Cam version of it and brought it in line with what I think would survive any sort of a legal challenge. It's funny, Justin actually asked me a question by email this week because it referenced newspapers and kind of made me think at one point in time there was an issue with newspapers getting left in people's driveways. Those days are long behind us, unfortunately.

Council any questions. Can you give us an example of what this stops versus the things that you say are exemptions like political charitable nonprofit handouts handbills on public spaces like utility utility poles vacant lots things like that.

Clean up clean up our city. Good.

The point of handbills or why you want to regulate them is trash. Things getting deposited or left on the ground. That's the main reason that we even get into this arena, to be honest with you.

Any questions, Council? Can I get a motion?

Madam Mayor, I make a motion that we approve item 05-2607, handbill ordinance number 1255.

Second. I have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. New agenda item 52608, ordinance 1256 to convert existing cars and cams and city operating policies. Jasmine.

Good evening, Mayor and Council. As previously advised at another council meeting, this has probably been a process for about maybe three years now. We essentially had policies called city administrative manuals and another type of policy called city administrative regulations originally where it gave guidance to staff ON ITEMS THAT WAS PERTAINING TO STAFF, ALSO ITEMS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUBLIC. THEY ATTEMPTED TO TRANSITION THIS OVER ONE BY ONE, ONE POLICY AT A TIME, AND THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED GETTING THE CITY OPERATING POLICIES, SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THREE DIFFERENT FORMS OF POLICIES. THAT WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL. SO A COUPLE YEARS AGO, WE DECIDED THAT THE BEST WAY TO ENSURE THAT NOT ONLY OUR STAFF IS INFORMED OF WHAT THE POLICIES ARE, BUT AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC IS INFORMED, BECAUSE MANY OF THESE POLICIES WERE PUBLIC-FACING, WE DECIDED TO GROUP THEM ALL TOGETHER INTO ONE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THOSE POLICIES AND PUT THEM FORWARD IN THE ORDINANCES TO BE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S REQUIRED IN THE ORDINANCES AND HAVE ACCESS TO SEE THOSE THINGS. AS YOU SEE THERE IS A LONG LIST OF POLICIES I DID NOT WRITE THIS ALL ON MY OWN EVERY DEPARTMENT PRETTY MUCH HAD THEIR HANDS IN THIS BECAUSE A LOT OF THE DEPARTMENTS YOU KNOW HAD AN ITEM OR POLICY THAT WAS LISTED TED ALSO ASSISTED US AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AS WELL SO I'M ABLE TO ANSWER AS BEST AS I CAN BUT A LOT OF THE IN THE POLICIES WITHIN IT WITHIN THIS ORDINANCE NOW HAVE BEEN TOUCHED BY OTHER DEPARTMENTS THANK YOU COUNCIL QUESTIONS

We've had time to take a look and ask all of our questions.

Can I make a comment? I thought it was good. I did like it. It took me two cups of coffee to get through it, though. It's pretty long. But I'll tell you what, they were very logical, they were very well written, and they made a lot of sense. So I certainly don't have any questions other than congratulations. We've got some semblance of order to all of these. Thanks, Jasmine.

Very much. Can I get a motion?

Madam Mayor, I have one change to this before you make a motion. Section 24A2, I want to slash, I want to strike out engineering services director and replace it with city manager or designee.

And this pertains to ADA?

The ADA grievance committee.

Thank you.

Thanks, Justin.

All right. Can I get a motion with the change as presented?

Madam Mayor, I'll make a motion that we approve 05-2608, Ordinance 1256 to convert the existing cars and cams and city operating policies, including the one change, help me out here, the one change as stated. Okay.

I'll second. This also says in the recommendation and repeal all other conflicting city policies and regulations. We might want to add that to the motion. Yes, please.

Yep. I thought we said.

I didn't have that on the list here. It's just under the recommendation. We have a repealer clause in section 16 of the ordinance that's on page.

So we don't have to state it?

It never hurts to state it. That's fine. But we have a repealer clause in there already.

Along with a repeal clause.

But the motion can stand as stated. Yes. I have a motion. I second it. And a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. Thanks very much. Mayor? Yes.

Before you leave that one, I just want to give kudos to Jasmine. This was a Herculean effort. For years. Yes. Nicely done. to the attorney to dive back in. And the city manager. Because three cups of coffee wasn't quite enough. Okay, I know that. And we also had some good involvement staff. There was at least one citizen that emailed had done a real good review and actually provided some very invaluable, it was Blake Hayes, actually provided some very good information that was taken into account to some changes that were made this week. Wow.

Good. Wow. Thanks very much. Item E. 5 26 0 9 Kedron pool, permanent structure and required renovations. Harold Layton.

Good evening mayor council. So tonight I have Brandon Fairbanks with me again from WM to a architects. If later on, if you have any questions, he'll be glad to answer those. Um, but I come to you tonight asking for approval of this concept and to move forward with the design of this through WM to a, and also with that, um, an increase in the design fees. from $247,500 to $417,500, which includes all of our additional architectural, civil engineering, other engineering, pool design and consultation for everything that we've added to get us to this point. We've had several discussions about this. So at this time, if you've got any questions further, We'll take this.

I have a quick question. This concept is showing one more pool than I thought I would see.

So actually that's not a pool. We had some comments from the last council meeting that we had about what we could do with the potential sun deck. And one of the options that will be kind of an ad alternate, so to say, is we could add the possibility of a spray part or a spray pad right there.

that pool deck as well so that's the additional option that could be added down the road but yes as we're going through the design thank you council any questions just one on the large pool on this just to point out in case somebody didn't see this there's the ADA chair get people into the pool as opposed to, but the ramp is still there. Correct. Or not.

No, the ramp has been taken out. Okay.

So the large pool has no ramp, but this, but the instructional pool still has a ramp.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay.

And also I know we've had some concerns, uh, some emails and we've already discussed, you know, I know the dive blocks initially when we had the ramp in the concept, the dive block started on this end of the pool, closest to the building. We are going to move forward with the design of putting those on the other end now since we're not having that ramp that has to go to the shallow end for ADA accessibility to the large pool. So the dive blocks will actually be on the same side of the pool that they currently are. Just FYI.

My other question is the concern had been raised by a citizen at the microphone last week about the the width of the pool decking and whatever between the two pools. It's hard to see it and read it and whatever. How wide is that going to be?

I know the minimum shown there is at least eight feet. I think the code requires six. So we're showing more than code, but it's also something that can be adjusted after further discussion. The end users, the coaches, the... Okay, I guess I have two more questions, sorry.

Okay, and so what was written in the thing was that there would be a 100 foot by 135 foot enclosure, cover. Is that a standard size like for a sprung structure is the sprung structures, if that's the way we end up going, is that like you can adjust it to whatever foot by foot you need or?

So yes and no. Sprung typically operates within 5 to 10 foot increments. It's kind of their standard kit of parts. You can get it made to any size you want, but if you're doing something that's kind of in between their standards, it typically comes at a premium. So, for example, if we wanted to downsize from, just for example, 100 by 135, 90 by 135 would make more sense than 94. Okay. And...

Are the pool sizes, the actual pools themselves, are they any different than what was presented two weeks ago as C2? In this drawing. So basically, this is the same thing that we had looked at. I'm sorry, I have more questions. I have paid two. I already asked about the ramp, that's good. What will the depth of the instructional pool be? Because that was another thing that had come up that a water aerobics instructor had said like the ideal depth for that type of a pool is four and a half feet. I think that was the. Chest high. Yeah, chest high. Is that going to be, and that the whole thing be a flat bottom? Now she also recommended that you pad the bottom with some other, that's another issue. Is that the potential that we're going to have it be 4 1⁄2 feet deep, the instructional pool, the whole pool?

There's definitely the potential for that, considering we're moving it from the old location. It's kind of a clean slate as far as that goes. We can set it to whatever depth would be best for the activities that are going to be served by that pool.

Okay. That's the end of the questions for now. Any other questions?

Yes, Madam Mayor. Thanks, Harold. So... I think the Q and a here is helpful, especially understanding that this is a concept that we're proving today that there's still going to be some tweaks that may be made. Um, I think that's important for the folks to know, but once we approve this, it's entering design phase. So to the folks, to our residents, if there's some more feedback, please let us know. so the consulting firm can incorporate that into the design if it's appropriate. If it's some curveball, I mean, we're proving a concept here overall, but there's maybe minor tweaks like pool depth that your team can still assess and see what's feasible. So please let us know, and I think most likely we'll start in a week or so. by by next week if there's more feedback on miners weeks just email us and we'll make sure it gets to the right folks um last council meeting we had talked about the cost of project of concept d and i saw the email earlier in the week and that came back about 15 20 million was it low cost okay thank you unfortunately that's something um i wish we had money for but we don't um And I still stand by the position. And again, I think the folks and about six weeks ago attended a group session outside Kedron and the idea of moving construction to March was proposed as well as heating Glenlock pool. Uh, I'm glad to see that conversation carrying forward to today. And that's something I would still advise us to consider and something I will be happy to support if we push construction to March. also find funding to heat Glenlock pool as well as solutions especially I understand your team is still looking at alternative solutions in our community and around so hopefully we can identify others along with our schools but those are two things I hope us as a council can find agreement on as other minor solutions to our community here and That's it. So thank you.

Okay.

Anybody else? Mr. Holland, questions? Yeah.

You go ahead. You go ahead. I'm all right. All right. think everybody knows that my biggest issue is that i would love to have a 50 meter pool i've said it before and i'll say it again i've got no traction on it but i'm the one who's speaking out on this because i think it's the right decision for us long term and for the next generation and for the the city itself Now, I see this drawing up here, and I think it's fine for what you proposed. I would replace that instructional pool, and I'd put a 50-meter pool right there. And I know that there's some cost involved. Leave the 25-yard pool as it is, but put a 50-meter pool in, and instead of covering over the instructional pool, just leave that alone. So you end up with three pools. But I have no traction on it. So I'm just going to just state it for the record and say that I think that we're going to probably move ahead with this, even though I'm not in favor of it. It's the reality of the situation that I'm in. I hope you all understand that.

I'd like to go on record as saying I would prefer a 50-meter pool. I think we all would, but we are having, as you said, having to face the realities of space and planning time and especially cost.

Ms. Johnson, did you have anything? Yeah, for sure. I mean, I think we all want the 50-meter pool. There's no one who's denying that. It's a matter of what we can do. The plan for this is a facility bond that's going to be part bond and part reserves and the combination of such is what we'll be paying for this project along with other projects. The capacity that we have to do those projects before we reach a bond level that would go on a referendum, we're kind of at that if that's my understanding. And so if that was the way that we were gonna go, this is going to, have to go out to the voters, which then has the potential to pass, could fail. But the last general obligation bond that was a recreation bond that passed was in 1993. So not to say that it wouldn't pass, but my guess is at a time when inflation is high and gas prices are high, maybe our voters would not go for something like that. So here we are doing the best that we can as a city council And I think this is the best that we can do. And I'm grateful for the Swim community who has been coming out and sharing their ideas and opinions and being great with communication. And I hope as a city council and staff that we can give our citizens the same courtesy. One of the things that we haven't touched on and that was asked tonight in public comment was communication. And so one of my questions is going to be, what will that look like going forward in this project so that we can meet? make sure that even though this is in a 50-meter pool, that we're doing the best that we can to meet the needs of our citizens.

Yes.

So moving forward, I mean, as we get design updates from WM2A, you know, we can bring those to council and, you know, we can share those as we're moving through this process. Mr. Fairbanks is going to be with us through this whole process from design all the way to the time we cut the ribbon. So he's in it for the long haul with us. So, yeah, I mean. whatever we can.

I also think at some point during the design process, when we have a good probably first draft, I was thinking about this while you all were talking is, We maybe just do a community meeting at Kedron and let the swim folks come in and see the first draft design and give their feedback. And then that can kind of shape those tweaks and things like that. So I think that's something we could probably do after we kind of get a, maybe once we get to 30%. Like once we get to like a 30% design, we can have a community meeting with stakeholders at Kedron.

Yeah, I think that's definitely feasible.

Especially 30% sounds like a good mark.

Yeah, I was about to say 60. I was like, that may be too far. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, so 30% marks about the end of schematic design. Right. Where it starts to flesh itself out, but there's not too many in-depth details, so it's a little easier to pivot if we need to, you know, given the correct input. Yeah.

All right. I think that's doable.

All right, great. And then one other thing, I was under the impression from the different communities that have been contacting us that one community wanted it to start in October, which was the schools and then a lot of other people who wanted it to start in March. So in speaking with Justin this week, he reached out to Dr. Patterson and had a conversation where Dr. Patterson shared with us that he would also actually prefer us to start in March as well, that even though they have different contracts and agreements set up right now, that they would be able to cancel those and then it would only be interrupting one of their seasons instead of two with that start date and then they would they wouldn't have to do all the figuring out this coming season it would only affect the following season they would still be able to use the pool this coming season it would just be uncovered and heated is that all that correct yes all right so everything else that other everyone else has touched on um they've covered my other topics so okay thank you

So at issue tonight is to approve the current concept for design as well as the budget amendment for design fee increase to $417,500. Can I get a motion? So moved.

Second.

I have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. That was painful, Mr. Holland, wasn't it? Yes, it was.

It was very painful. It's okay.

You did good. Okay. New agenda item 526.10, Meade Pickleball Playground. Harold Layton.

Yes, ma'am. So tonight I'm asking for you to – let me get on the right page here – to approve the Meade Pickleball design here. in the amount of $266,678.40 to Play World for me to go in down at Mead. I've got a couple of slides that you can see. They show different areas of this it has swings. It has a little bit of shade over that one park bench This is a poured in place surface that will give us many years. We won't have to remulch us every year It'll be a nice surface for everybody It's got some nice ad a adaptive features as well as we've got a pickleball paddle and a pickleball included into the design as well and Got a couple of corkscrew slides along with the regular slides as well. And overall, the entire PIP poured in place. Surfacing is shaped like a pickleball paddle as well, so.

Council, any questions?

Do you have a start date and a length of construction?

Length of construction would be pretty quick. Obviously, we'll have to order all the parts from the manufacturer. probably a couple of months we can get this done hopefully by the fall we'll have it all installed and ready to go okay I like it a lot thank you I love the pickleball theme did I miss it in the in the paperwork we have a location of this playground yes so where is that located this is gonna go in the outfield of the one softball field on the thing about the orientation I guess the southeast side of the pickleball facility that went out.

So as you're facing the pickleball, it's on the left side.

If you're facing the front entrance of the pickleball course, it'll be immediately behind that parking lot in the rear. There will be a sidewalk that will walk right over to it.

He's got it right here. Hold on just a second here.

While I'm pulling it up, I just want to say that beyond, I know this has pickleball playground, but beyond this is for the entire media complex, even though it will be close to the pickleball courts. But me is, you know, one of our bigger complexes and it's the only bigger complex we have that doesn't have a playground anywhere on it.

So while he's looking to, I'm always looking for opportunity for more benches.

Just saying, just saying, I was going to bring up shade. Yes. Shade. What are the options for, I mean, that's a big, big surface. So, I mean, obviously we can't shade the whole thing.

Correct. This is roughly a, almost 4,000 square foot playground on the surface.

Justin had an interesting email that went out. Um, discussing shade so I just went to the recreation advisory meeting where they would I guess we didn't really they didn't talk about this part but they talked about a lot of other parks and those will be forthcoming but this the price of shades is alarming Justin, do you mind sharing your thoughts on an alternative when we were talking about shades?

Oh, yeah. I think it's a good idea if we start looking into... Because shades are just so expensive. We have to start sacrificing actual play equipment to put shades. If we want to shade this whole thing, it would double the cost of the project. So, you know, what if we put in just... you know, little spouts like you have at like almost Centennial Olympic Park, not to that size, but you know, you put in four or five little spigot area where you have water coming out of the ground, shoots up, kids can run through it and stuff, and it keeps the kids cool when it's really hot. I think that's, I mean, it won't provide shade, but it would keep kids cool in the summer. And if parents get really hot, they can run through it too.

So would you take things out to put those in? Because you're going to need some place for them to run around and run through the water and all that stuff.

No, I say we build it as is now without that. I would like to explore it on more of a city level. Like I would like to maybe put some at All Children's, put some at Glenlock. Well, we have a splash pad at Glenlock, so they can run into there. So not there. Maybe for the new Braylon playground we're looking at for this one, I don't think PAC really needs it because it is in the shade. But maybe for some of these that have a lot of direct sunlight, look at putting them kind of around. I would kind of like to get an overall cost at different places and see what that would be.

Okay. But we're still considering this layout at this cost. Correct. And that's the decision tonight.

Correct.

Yeah. Any other questions?

Yes, Madam Mayor. On the shade, it's something that we could – Like I see there's a bench there with no shade. If we end up considering, because this is the feedback I hear and I personally experience all the time, the opportunity for us to add more shade to a bunch of playgrounds, that's something we can come back to and add shade over that bench. That's feasible from a construction standpoint.

It is, but that would carry the higher cost. There are some relatively... cheaper options that we could do like some of the shade structures that you've seen throughout the city um that are over picnic tables that are eight by twelves you know 10 by 12s 10 by 16s we could do one of those for about a fourth of the cost of what shade from an actual and a playground design is.

And that was one other thing that Harold and I talked about, too, beyond just the little spigots, is we could probably put some picnic tables on concrete slabs around the park and put shades over the ones like what we do for a lot cheaper. So we could come back and retroactively do that strategically around. And that would be specifically just for parents to sit and shade while the kids play. Exactly.

i really i'm thinking about my kids and my i don't think my kids have ever complained about not having shade i don't think they care anything that we do to the playground if it's in the surface area with with anything has to meet cpsi requirements you know that are sanctioned through the nrpa so that's why you pay the premium for these shades because they are incorporated in the design it's incorporated in the playground you know, to make sure that they're meeting that requirement into the footers of the playground itself. Yeah. If we do something out exterior of that perimeter of that paddle, then it's excluded away from that requirement. So we can do that at a reduced rate.

Sounds wonderful. We'll have, we'll have that in mind as we go forward.

And then I just want to add also acknowledge the surface that material that we're using here is the same as all children's playground, which again, I think as we move forward with playgrounds around the city, it modernizes the playgrounds also less maintenance required. You don't have to fill in the mulch and meet certain requirements. One thing I learned on the rec board. And so I think moving forward, that's something. mean it does radiate more heat i know all children's does versus the mulch so i'm curious of different colors here uh this will help with that but again to the shade conversation so we need to continue to review as as we have some exciting things planned for for playgrounds here in peter city so thanks harold thank you i'd like to add a little bit more into

Michael's quotes there about the type of covering that you would put on the playground. There are technologies out there and they call them cool deck. I don't know if that's gonna be incorporated here where no matter how hot the sun gets, the coating never gets any hotter than just regular temperatures. So you can walk on it barefoot and all of that. I don't know if that's been thought of to put those kinds of coverings on this. I do believe they're painted on. I don't think you can buy it for a permanent location, you know, put it on permanently. You maybe have more information than I do on that, but I know that those do exist out there.

I will definitely look into it.

Because that will certainly, the kids don't want to burn their feet if it's a hot day out there and the thing starts radiating heat. You certainly don't want to have the children burning their feet.

Well, anything's better than that bus bar in Fayetteville with the metal slide.

Well, I was about to make a joking comment. I'm like, I know I'm younger, but when I was a kid, elementary school, metal slides, those old metal merry-go-rounds, metal monkey bars on asphalt. Yep, yep. No metal slides in Peachtree City. It's like, I'm okay.

I grew up okay. No.

all right council okay can I get a motion madam mayor I move that we approve the playground and cost for me complex and the total cost of two hundred and sixty six thousand six hundred seventy eight dollars and forty cents to be purchased and built by Playworld second I have a motion in a second all in favor say aye aye all opposed

Motion carries. Thank you. Thanks, Harold. New Agenda Item 52611, Entertainment District Application, The Avenue. Jasmine?

Yes, good evening again, Mayor and Council and residents. With the adoption of the new entertainment district ordinance, we have received our first application. The applicant, which is CP Venture 5, also, as you all know, it is the avenue, that's the facility, at 239 City Circle, has submitted the completed application, district boundary and signage maps, the participating establishments, that currently have an alcohol on-premise license, operational information, lighting and waste management plans, security and enforcement procedures that are all required within the ordinance, and it's here for you all tonight to review and make a determination.

Thank you. Council, any questions?

It may be a dumb question at this point, but the boundary, how is that going to be delineated, I guess, is the best word. Is there going to be like signage?

Yes, correct. So the ordinance actually requires signage when anyone is leaving the district. So within the plan on page 152 of the packet, you will see blue dots where they anticipate around the boundary placing signage that meets. We actually provided the wording to them that states that they are leaving the district.

I missed that one.

That's all right. Any other questions?

Nope. Can I get a motion? Madam Mayor, I will be happy to make a motion that we approve item 052611, the entertainment district application from CP Venture 5, APC LLC for the avenue located at 239 City Circle. Second.

I have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Good to see you, Kelly. Public hearing.

I'm sorry, Mayor. I did want to add, too, just a reminder, the license does expire in December, December 31st, because I know that was the one year, but it actually will expire December 31st of this year.

Do they bring it back again in January or December for the renewal?

That's correct. Yes, sir. Okay.

And then my understanding is we'll reassess that as a 12-month pilot. Exactly. March, April. Yeah. April meeting. May.

12 months from now, right? Yeah.

Okay. It is May.

All right, public hearing 5-26-12, variance request for fence height and type deviation 3-1-1 ruffian circle. And this is a public hearing.

Well, she's getting that just back. It probably will be June next year. Pardon? Because we won't have data collecting until June. June. Probably be June next year. June meeting, yeah, okay.

Okay.

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Shayla Reed.

Thank you. Good evening, Mayor and Council. As mentioned, the item before you is a variance request for a fence. Okay. Sorry, I'm struggling with that. There we go. Okay, as shown here, your zoning map, you'll see the site is zoned for LUR 21, which is limited use residential. You'll see the site is located at a corner lot, curved here. So the red line there is going to show where they're proposing to have a six foot privacy fence. Our code identifies that a front yard would require to have a four-foot fence, but a lot that sits at a corner lot has two front yards. The owner of the site is wishing to place a pool within the location and, of course, FENCE IS REQUIRED FOR THE POOL. AND SO FOR PRIVACY, THEY'RE ASKING TO CHANGE THE FOUR-FOOT ALLOWANCE TO SIX FEET. AND IN A SECOND REQUEST, THEY'RE ASKING TO ALLOW FOR THE MATERIAL FOR THE FENCING TO BE SOLELY ENCLOSED WHERE OUR REQUIREMENT SAYS IT HAS TO BE 50% VISIBLE. SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR PRIVACY ALONG THE POOL COMPONENT OF THEIR YARD. SO THAT IS THEIR REQUEST FOR TONIGHT. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, MAYOR.

Thank you. This is a public hearing. At this time, I'll open the public hearing. Is there anyone who wishes to speak in favor? Are you the homeowner? Yes, ma'am. Oh, I would like to just hear your comments before we start. I won't put a clock on you. I would just like, I would like to hear your comments. Thanks for being here.

No problem. Good evening, Mayor, City Council. Thank you so much for your time.

My name is Alex Wilhelm. What would have been the order over there?

We live in that address that's in dispute right now. And we sincerely appreciate all you being here tonight. We moved from Seattle area to Peachtree City. We heard so many good things about it. And we just decided to take the plunge and move over here. And we could not be happier. We intend for Peachtree City to be our forever home. We chose that house. mostly because of that lot. We moved from a .17 acre postage stamp in Seattle to a half an acre there, and our goal here is to maximize that lot and maximize the fence that's gonna enclose our pool that's being built right now. One of the biggest reasons for this request is safety. We have two little children, three and five, and we understand that the city requires a four foot aluminum fence based on where we'd like to put our fence. but we believe that a six foot privacy fence provides a much safer, more secure barrier for both our children and then other neighborhood children as well. We'd like to emphasize that the existing sidewalks, um, they have grass on both sides and the fence isn't even going to sit directly on that line of grass. It's going to sit back a little further because of a pipe that, uh, we talked about in the zoom meeting meeting Ms. Shayla. Um, so it's going to sit farther back from that. And, um, We think personally that's going to be a substantial buffer to not preclude the visibility or traffic impact of having a privacy fence in that area. The third reason is for privacy. We moved to Peachtree City. We heard it's a safe place to live. Being that it's a new neighborhood and everybody wants to drive in and see it, there's countless cars that we don't recognize running through the neighborhood every day. We're going to design our backyard to be a little oasis for our family, for our children, a place to hide out and relax. And we'd like to keep ourselves as private as possible back there. Furthermore, for my occupation, I'm gone half the month out of town. And I just want my wife and children to feel safe while I'm out of town. And I feel like the, a six foot privacy fence would be the best way to do that. And to maximize our, our yard and keep it, um, putting that on a private line would be the most beneficial for us. Thank you so much for your time. And we appreciate your consideration for this issue.

Thanks very much with that. I will open the public hearing. Is there anyone who wishes to speak in favor? Seeing none. Is there anyone who wishes to speak in opposition? Seeing none, I hereby close the public hearing. Council? I'll start with a comment, because Mr. Holland, you and I talked about this. And we talked about what my comment is. that on paper, I couldn't figure out why they wouldn't have a safety fence around the pool in addition to this requested fence. But I drove it. And when I saw it, it's just not that big of a lot that would accommodate two fences. It doesn't make any sense. It would be ill-conceived. And I know you and I had the same question about that. So I kind of answered my own question, and I thought you might be interested.

I didn't get a chance to drive through there, so I appreciate that.

Yeah, it's just too close. It wouldn't make any sense to have a – To have a fence in a fence.

Yeah. Typically you want to put the fence around the pool, not around the property. Yeah. That's the typical way it's done. Am I right on that?

That could be one of the ways, but we're seeing it more so around the entire yard. But, yes, sir, that is an option. Yes, sir.

Also, if I may – the red line that we're seeing is all supposed to be per ordinance, four foot.

That is correct. Well, not all, just the component where the arrow is showing the proposed six feet on the portion for Seabiscuit. Okay. That's where it's identified as a second option for a frontage component because both Seabiscuit as well as the road location for Roofian Circle, they're both having frontages at those locations.

Seabiscuit is the curvy road across the bottom? Yes, ma'am. So the issue is, yeah, okay.

So on the other side of it against the other properties, I guess I can point to it here on this area right here. One more time.

Try it one more time.

It doesn't work, but on the property on that side up there, that is allowed to have a six-foot fence. Is that correct?

That is correct, sir.

Okay, so we're really only talking about the red line that you have the arrow on, which is this one, which it's required to have a four-foot fence there as opposed to that little piece at the right-hand side that goes up against the house. What size should that fence be?

It should be four as well, but because it faces the front of roofing.

And that looks like it's got an opening in it. I would assume it's going to have some type of gate.

Is that correct?

It's going to have a gate on that?

That's correct, sir.

Okay.

And could you please talk to us about the materials or the visibility issue?

Yes, sir. I'm sorry. Yes, ma'am. The rules associated to our ordinance is that you we must be able to see through the fence for the frontage component in this 50% as shown in 18 dash 165. Is that the word? No, it's shown in F, yes. And so it identifies the material must be 50% of the total barrier as viewed from the front, well, from the street, basically. So you'll see that the parcel that's shown as to the left that we were showing, that's not having street frontage. The other pieces are having street frontage. It's for a safety measure for us to know what the rear would be if, say, an officer needs to obtain to the site, he'll need to be able to see what's going on from the visual for the street.

So one more time, the visibility 50% is the ordinance requirement for Seabiscuit side.

And roofing, circle.

And roofing.

Yes. They're both frontages. So that is a frontage rule.

But not the red line across the top. No, ma'am. Between the two. It's going to look so weird.

Yes, please. Sheila, can you repeat what you just said at the end there as far as if a police officer...

There are safety reasons for it. They need to be able to see what's been going on inside of the lot to keep from them having to have any restrictions of what's going on within the yard itself. So when you have the entire, we want to be able to protect so that you, as far as a property can protect each other. So that allows for that 50% to go away. But when it's from the frontage component, it allows you to be able to see into the yard with that 50% rule. Okay.

But because it's a corner lot, Both sides are considered frontage here. It's clearly a backyard. I have a question.

Yes, Mr. Holland.

I have a question, Director Reed. Is there such a fence that has less than 50% openings? In other words, it's only got 25% openings. So he still can see through it, but it gives you a lot more privacy because I don't really have a problem with the six foot size. I have a problem when the police have to look in there. They're not trying to gawk at the people in there, but it's for protection and safety.

So anytime you have a wood fence and it's close together as far as the placement of the wood pieces, that's going to keep you from seeing inside, right? However, there's ways you can space it out to see more inside of the yard to make it, again, so it's more visible, 50%, so you can see the yard as far as the frontage component, or, again, closing it together where you can't see the wood, which is what we're doing at the level.

Right, so what I'm suggesting is there is somewhere – compromise to give them some additional privacy but also to keep that property safe so that when police come by they can look through but they're only you know they're only getting a small glimpses maybe 25% open just to give them a little bit of safety issues I don't know that's maybe that's something maybe for the city manager to opine on or maybe the assistant city manager okay so I don't I don't necessarily

can't speak for PD, but the 50%, because it's a corner lot is specifically for site, right? Because of the corner lots are at intersections. So you want to be able to, if you come up to an intersection, you want to be able to see through the fence of oncoming cars. Um, so it's typically at the intersections, that's where you get that 50% see-through rule, because if the fence was actually pushed into the front yard, closer to that intersection, as you approach that intersection, you can't see an oncoming car coming down the road. It may block your line of sight, you know, the sight triangle. So that's where I know of the 50%. PD may have a reason for it from a safety perspective, but I think that's why it was written in the ordinance that way.

Well, Ted may know this better than me. I agree with Jonathan. That's part of why it was written. I also, I mean, I... don't know why I don't know beyond that why it was written but sometimes I like I think that for front yard fences in Peachtree City I think the idea is to that driving down a road it's not very pretty on the road to just see a solid fence down the roadway so I think aesthetics I think aesthetics is a part of it too for the intent of the ordinance for front yards

So the two small pieces on one side of the house and the other side of the house that are facing Ruffian, is that right? Ruffian, it's the one to the right. Those have to be four foot fences. Is that correct?

So without today's request or approval, they would have to have four feet here and four

Yeah, I understand the side there. I'm talking the two front-facing ones to Ruffian.

Go back where you were, Shelly. Yes.

Right there, that piece, and then the one on the other side. Those are four foot, and they'd have to be open. Does that really satisfy the police issue, or is that not? I don't think that one on the back side has to be four feet.

So this one does because it faces – No. No, we mentioned that one.

He's talking about – No, by the house.

Down, that one. That doesn't have to be? No.

But the only one that you then would want to have see-through is the previous one on the other side of the house. Go back with your circle down. Go over to – yeah, go right there. Is that what you're saying? Yeah.

the the ordinance i think i can answer this mr holland the ordinance calls for those two spots that you're highlighting to be four feet he's asking for them to be six feet i know that as i said i'm not really that upset about the six foot for the rest of the going around sea biscuit

I understand the privacy issue, but I also want the safety issue of being able to see through those should there be anything that needed to be.

I'm with you.

I'm actually with you. I could, I could agree to a six foot, but that request to have more than 50% be opaque, I think flies in the face of some of our safety considerations.

We'll part way there.

Council, council members comments.

Okay. I guess it's my turn now. Um, With regard to the ordinances and granting variances, the items A through F, item A is, are there special circumstances applicable to the property, including location and shape, size, surroundings, et cetera? Well, there are seven properties in this development alone with the same issue. If you look at the drawings, you'll see which seven they are. So you can't say that this is unique. It's not an unusual thing. It's not even an unusual thing in Peachtree City. Our ordinances are there for a reason. With item B, the strict or literal interpretation and application of this ordinance would result in practical difficulties or unnecessary hardships inconsistent with the general purpose and intent of the land ordinance, development ordinance, or would deprive the applicant of privileges granted to others in similar circumstances. There are several types of fences that you may install. Perhaps you may not get complete privacy because of where the fence may be or that no more than 50% may be solid and the height limit is four foot. But there are other fences that you can install. Item C, there are exceptional or extraordinary circumstances or conditions applicable to the property involved or the intended development of the property which preclude the applicant from complying with this ordinance and that do not apply generally to other property in the same zoning district in which prevent the applicant from complying with existing regulations. Again, lots in Peachtree City are often oddly shaped. We are not built on a grid pattern, and as a result, we have many pie, wedge, and other oddly shaped lots to the point where odd shaped lots really are the norm. Item D, the granting of such variance will not constitute the granting of special privileges inconsistent with the limitations on other property in the same zoning district Granting this variance would be a special privilege in that they would be allowed to have a fence that other properties would not qualify for. The granting of such variance would not be materially detrimental to the public health safety or general welfare nor injurious to property or improvements in the zone or neighborhood in which the property is located. I mean, we just had the discussion about why they want non-opaque fences. They want to be able to see through for security reasons for the police. There's also an issue with regard to as you approach the intersection and not having things be blocked off visibly. But my interpretation is that this would be detrimental in that a solid fence where they wish to build it will restrict visibility around the curve, creating a level of potential danger. And F, the granting of such variance will not create inconsistencies with any objective of the comprehensive plan. You know, our comprehensive plan basically wants us to follow the ordinances, ultimately. That would be a problem if we grant this. As a citizen, I attended the meetings pertaining to the Mill Farm subdivision proposals in front of the Planning Commission and the City Council regarding their request to reduce the front side and rear setbacks for every property in the subdivision. I had quite a bit to say about the overall lot designs, the setbacks, the drainage, and what I saw as their attempt to maximize their profit with little care for the issues future homeowners might encounter. I didn't like the street design and seeing this property owner in front of council with this specific request is exactly why I spoke about issues in all phases of the development process. Our ordinances are there to protect homeowners from some of the things other homeowners might do. And I'm sorry that the ordinance restricts your plans, but ordinances offer the best protection to all city residents so that other homeowners cannot do certain things that might be detrimental to nearby properties. As long as this council continues to grant variances to compensate for whatever design flaw the developer put into their plat plan, such as a lot in this exact configuration, then we will continue to see developers put profitability above the needs of future homeowners, and we'll have a steady stream of variance applications. And for the record, approving a variance because it might increase the property value is not a justifiable reason to override any ordinance. I don't support granting this. Anybody else?

I can speak a little bit to this. This seems to be a common variance that comes before us. We've seen it multiple times. I will speak to this one a little personally because I also, when I bought my house, I live in a house where I wanted to put a privacy fence and I was not able to. And so thus I have a four foot picket fence in my backyard. And I remember not being very happy with it and this variant still exists. I personally wouldn't mind, I have had it explained by another planning director that this particular variance could possibly be unique to our city. So I wouldn't mind in all of our looking at ordinances with UDOs and things like that, possibly having this looked at. But at the moment, the ordinance stands as it is. And in our ordinances, as Councilwoman Brown went through, there are certain criteria that should be met, and it's not. a matter of meeting one or two of them. It is a matter of meeting all of them. So unfortunately, I would not be able to support this, and I am truly sorry. Mr. Polachek?

No more questions for me. I do want to acknowledge receipt of the letters of support that we received from the HOA and such and the neighbors and all that, but no additional questions from me.

Mr. Holland, any last comments?

I think everybody in the city knows that I'm not a guy in favor of variances. But there comes a time sometimes where you've got to look at this and say, you know, is there a compromise that you can go with? You know, six foot in certain areas, fully closed in others, open in four foot in another. I see that as a compromise here. The front facing, anything facing on ruffian, I would say four feet and leave it open. any of the ones going down the rest of Seabiscuit and across the property back, I'd say I'd be in favor of six-foot close to give some privacy to those little kids and to the family that will be in that pool in the backyard. So mine is kind of a split. You know, we get some and not all of what you're looking for. That would be my suggestion, Madam Mayor.

Thank you. I'm going to take two votes and separate this out. Mr. Meeker, you're following me, right? because we have two issues. The first is 18, and I'm on page 162 in our packets. There are two issues. The first one is section 18-165E, which is the height, and the second one is 18-165F, which is the visibility, like the opacity issue, more than 50% total barrier. Fair enough?

What page is that on, Madam Mayor?

62? It's on 162, 162. Let me know when you're there. It's also on the cover of a play. Are you there? Mm-hmm. In the center of the page, towards the bottom, section 18-165E deals with the height, and F deals with the opacity. No fence shall be more than 50% of the total barrier as viewed from the street. So the first question I'm going to ask you is, I will take a motion for 18-165E regarding the fence height?

I'll be happy to make it if someone else doesn't. Okay. I'll make a motion that we approve a six-foot fence, as I outlined just before, all the way down Ruffian and all the way up the side of the property line to the next one. But the front-facing ones, which go to Ruffian on both sides of the house, those fences, I would say no. Six foot there has to be four foot. Now, I don't know if that helps you.

So your motion is to allow six foot on the... It's the side.

As outlined down Ruffian and up the property line.

Hold on. This one right here, you want four up there?

Yeah, that's a front-facing one.

You told me whether that's... It legally can be six.

It legally can be six?

Okay, so then in my case, can I amend that, Madam Mayor?

Yeah, please rescind it, and we're going to start it over.

I'll rescind my motion and make the motion a second time.

The only section would be that section you just pointed to, Justin, right here.

That's front-facing. Point to it. No, down. On Seabiscuit? Yeah.

right now that keep going that small but attached to the house that piece right there right that has to be four feet and the rest of them can be six feet no did i not say that right this one is you want to do the variance here but not there that's correct okay all right just that one piece to give at least a four foot

Man, compromises are really very hard on these things. To get everybody to maybe agree, I'm trying to help the homeowner.

I think you want to approve, from understanding your motion, is to approve the variance to allow a six-foot fence along Seabiscuit.

And I don't need a variance for the property line, right? Because that can be six feet. Between the property and the next property over. Correct. Okay, so it's just along Seabiscuit. Correct. Thanks for correcting me.

I have a motion.

Second.

And a second. All in favor say aye.

Aye.

All opposed say no. No. Motion fails 2-3. I voted with Brown and Johnson. section 18 dash 165 F on the opacity issue I'll take a motion I'll let somebody else take a crack at that I'm not doing very well on motions tonight Ted why don't you give us one of the options and make it in emotion the

Allowance of an opaque fence in a long sea biscuit or a motion to deny the variance as applied for?

Make the motion to deny the variance as it is applied for.

I'll make a motion. I can make a motion. The motion would be to deny the variance request to 18-165 subparagraph F.

Ted, there's no approval for 18-165E either. So at this time, they could choose to also deny it in general or approve it as a whole as well.

We're taking the second half.

I'll make the motion to deny the request.

Second. I have a motion and a second. All in favor of the denial, say aye. Aye. All opposed? No. All right. Denial passes 3-2, and I'm sorry. Public hearing 5-26-13. Consider a text amendment to the parking ordinance, specifically section 909, off-street automobile parking requirements, Shayla Reed.

YES, MA'AM. SO THIS ITEM WAS ORIGINALLY INITIATED JANUARY 5, 2026. THE PLANNING COMMISSION ASKED THAT WE BRING THIS TO YOU DURING THAT TIME. AND AT THAT TIME, YOU ALLOWED FOR STAFF TO MOVE THE ITEM FORWARD. DURING THAT TIME AS WELL, A COUNCILMEMBER ASKED THAT WE ALSO CONSIDER PARKING FOR BIKES FOR THAT. AND SO WE TOOK THAT CONVERSATION. over to the Planning Commission. Our city manager also asked that we review the entire section of the code so that we can ensure that we're up to standard for the parking requirements. So there were, of course, three things in this that we reviewed. Anything that allowed for the alternative parking component, which is motorized carts, golf carts, and low-speed vehicles, as well as bikes, and the overall code itself. So during several rounds, the Planning Commission and staff, staff including several departments within the city, drafted this particular ordinance, provided reviews and gave comments, and then that, from there, provided a recommendation, well, a sample over to the Planning Commission March 23rd. They gave a recommendation over to you, and we're here tonight to discuss that. So Section 909 identifies exactly where we are with parking. This may not be the... No, this is not the updated version of my presentation. I'll speak from my knowledge. This is not the updated version. So we have several sections of the code that identifies, one, what is alternative parking? It also gives you the definition, will be located in section 78 of your city ordinances. It identifies that golf carts as well as motorized carts or vehicles and low speed vehicles as well as biking is identified as alternative parking. And so from there, with that addition, continue to use golf carts, because I know that is something we're straying away from as far as the definition or usage, but there are several sections inside of your code that still uses the phrase golf carts. So we included that as of now, but as we go through the UDO over the next year, we'll revise all those sections and to refer it as motorized carts moving forward. So I wanted to explain to you as to why that is still included as golf carts, as we are straying away from that. I'm not having a good time with this clicker, I'm sorry. Okay. Got it. So again, there are several languages that were added. So again, you have what the alternative parkings would be. It gives the locations, it gives the dimensions, it gives details as to how we would regulate that. Your code identifies a five foot width for the stalls, but according to staff in a conversation and meeting we had earlier, we do recommend that it will be changed to six feet just to give a little bit more room in that. So staff has come together with that six foot recommendation over to you for that. IN ADDITION TO THAT, SECTION 909 IS ALSO NEW LANGUAGE, 909.8, I MEAN. IT GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THERE TO BE NOT ONLY THE LOCATION, BUT WHAT ARE THE RATIOS, HOW DO WE IDENTIFY WHAT WOULD BE USED AS THAT. SO I GAVE THREE DIFFERENT RATIOS OR THREE DIFFERENT WAYS TO IDENTIFY WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THE GOLF CART PARKING OR MOTORIZED CARTS. You'll see that if new commercial comes about or new multifamily and as well as 25% of the redevelopment of a site, they will be required to have the additional parking requirements for either of those identified alternative parking requirements. You'll see that based on the actual use or type of business, you'll see the number of spaces for golf carts that will be recommended. The Planning Commission was very strong on recommending that for five golf carts, they could substitute five standard parking spaces. They cannot go more than 15% of the site, though. That means that if your site gives, let's just say, if your site requires there to be 10 parking spaces, we could allow for it to be replaced, but it can't be more than 15%. So I would say that you won't be able to substitute the five for five with 10 spaces because it would exceed the 15% at that point. So that's pretty much what we're doing with that for the actual golf carts and motorized parking component. The last component is biking. We spoke very heavily on the same thing for the actual paths for, or the locations for the parking for the bikes, as well as the motorized, not the motorized, I'm sorry, the stalls of what to be used and where they should be located as far as what type of racks you would have to have in the location. So I apologize that I don't have the current presentation up here, but I presented it to you as presented in front of you in your packet. And that concludes my report.

Thank you. This is a public hearing, so at this time I'll open the public hearing. Is there anyone who wishes to speak in favor? Seeing none, is there anyone who wishes to speak in opposition? Please take the microphone and we'll set the timer for five minutes. Is there anyone else who's wishing to speak in opposition? All right. Five minutes.

Good evening, uh, Marin council. I'm Keith Larson. I live in sand down Creek and, uh, to get to where we are today as a city, you have to look back at our history. Why is this text amendment so important? Because for years I've been going to planning council meetings or commission meetings, and they've had to ask. Developers, would you please add some bike parking or add some cart parking? Because there was no requirement in our ordinance that you need to, you will have cart parking and you will need to have bike parking. You go over to Camden Apartments, there's probably 50 kids' bikes stacked, thrown, leaning against trees on an open rack. nothing for the bikes, and they're just out there rusting. And so today with e-bikes, we have a challenge and an opportunity. Many people are using electric bicycles to get around, returning to bicycling as a recreation and as a form of commuting to work, to go to school, but they don't do well out in the rain all the time, constantly exposed. So there are some components that I had recommended based on questioning that I attended the planning commission meeting in an open discussion during the public hearing, they asked some very specific questions. The amendment that I provided you today answered many of the questions of the commission that they asked themselves, but then are now excluded or not included in the current text amendments. Things like charging stations, things like, oh, you have a business that's separated on State Route 54 or 74, not connected to the PATH system, not connected to Neighborhood Street, why would I require that business to have bicycle parking? There certainly would be an exception. Planning Commission created that question. I answered it. ADA. We've always had a challenge with ADA. I think we're turning the corner, but then, When you have an opportunity to do a text amendment and modernize the actual reference to what is the document at the federal government that requires parking standards for Americans with Disabilities Act, it's not the Americans with Disability Act. It is the U.S. Access Board accessibility guidelines. That's what actually states what the conditions are for parking. The city manager last spring asked the tech could you please define, because we're doing some city projects, what should be a standard parking space for a cart and for ADA? Because we said, well, you should have ADA parking for that as well. So I called US Access Board and they said, please, Peachtree City, could you provide us a benchmark that could become the national standard for ADA parking? We have 20% of our residents who are senior citizens 6% of our resident households have no motorized vehicle. They depend on a car. So we should provide our citizens who are ADA compliant with an ADA parking space. It's pretty easy language. I've provided the language guidance. The last thing I want to say is back to bicycling and the overall objectives of accessible alternate mode parking. Sometimes when you have a vision, you need to articulate what that is. My document provides that guidance because there's other places in the ordinances that does a similar thing. This is a new thing. We should explain to developers and property owners why we're doing this. We should also provide definitions. Do you know what a short-term parking space is for bicycling? How about a long-term? What's the difference? What should be applied to me? What should I be doing? And those simple definitions as well as defining the national standard for what constitutes bicycle parking rack designs and spacing installation, why not cite that standard? We do it elsewhere in the documents. We cite what national standards are. So why can't we do it here? This is a text amendment. This is just putting a more thorough discussion everyone can read and enjoy I provided benchmarks from other small cities this could be the best ordinance in the nation if we want to that's what living in a city of excellence does thank you thank you and with that I hereby close the public hearing council I have a couple of questions

Well, it's kind of questions. We're not at this stage including any requirement for ADA compliant golf cart parking spaces. And I have a problem with that because I'm actually in total agreement with what Mr. Lawson just said. A lot of seniors, as they lose their mobility and they lose their vision and other things, they switch off from driving cars to driving golf carts. And they have trouble walking distances. And it's like not establishing right from the get-go that we have ADA-compliant golf cart parking, I think is a problem. I don't think it has to be like a huge number, but I think it is a problem. In terms of number or configuration or location? In terms of, now we got the letter today from the one woman who has a disabled child. And I had spoken to her months ago, and Laura knows her well, but she had outlined that when she tries to park in a golf cart parking space and tries to take her disabled child out and get the disabled child, who's now 10 or 12, I forget what the age was, 10, into the handicapped wheelchair. She can't get the wheelchair close to the cart. She can't get the child out. It's too close. So just like with regular handicapped accessible parking spaces, there's the access strip that you can have next to it that makes a real difference. It would only really have to be on one side or the other. It would not necessarily have to be on both. But having that on, say, the passenger side, would allow for somebody with who has to get a wheelchair up right next to the golf cart in order to be able to offload. I mean, you know, we see the van access, you know, cart spaces so that somebody who has a lift gate can get in and out of their van. So I think it just makes total sense right from the start, you know, to have this be part of this. Because if the whole idea is, okay, we're putting forth this vehicle guideline so that as each new development gets built you know if we don't have this in there then we're going to allow additional places to go you know be constructed and still not meet the need of all of the people who are using carts i so i think that i think we really need to have some outline, and I don't know what the percent, I don't know what the number, but there has to be some consideration just as we have under ADA guidelines where they say you have to have some level of percentage of parking spaces that are ADA compliant. I think if we're gonna outline golf cart parking, I think we really need to do the same thing. And if we don't, then I think we're dropping the ball.

anything else?

Yeah, I have a couple of other things, but you know, I mean, if I don't know if anybody wants to jump on that and talk about that for, um, I called it an accessible, but I already talked about that. Sorry. I'm just making sure. Yeah. I mean, a lot of senior citizens use, you know, have to get off their cart and also use a Walker, et cetera. So it's, I mean, it's a multi-level thing. If, are we issuing, here's the question, are we issuing ADA handicap cart path registration stickers? I know I've seen them on the old ones. Are we still?

For the golf carts? Yeah. Yes, they are. Stacey also reached out for that, and yeah, we helped her with that. They can get stickers.

So, and I know, They can park in regular handicap parking spaces, but some of, you know, it's like, again, we need an ADA compliant golf cart space. So, um, I mean, I have some other summary comments as opposed to questions. If you want, I'll keep going. You know, our cart parking ordinance is carving new territory. I think that's obvious. That's why it's been struggling along for the length of time that it has been. But we're the premier city using alternative transportation in the form of golf carts to such a high degree. We should try to include all of the specific guidelines that we need right in the beginning so that the thousands of registered carts with over 110 miles of paths all have safe places to park to include the proper amount of parking for citizens disabled cart registrations So we're trying to have compliance with most of our 110 miles of paths.

We need designated handicap accessible parking spaces Who wants to go next I can go I have a question for mr. Meeker I'm just curious if there's any regulations that are being violated Here none that I know I mean even the point that was made about setting benchmarks and stuff i'm not aware of any with respect to golf cart parking i'm not aware of any regulations that this draft violates and it seems to me if we were to make a standard for a handicap golf cart parking spot there is no standard for us to follow so We are the ones who are supposed to say this is what it should be and say that this is ADA compliant?

Well, it wouldn't be ADA compliant. It would be the best design we could come up with to accommodate. And one thing I want to point out, golf carts can park. in existing handicap parking places that cars can use. That is permitted. I double-checked that with PD today.

Oh, great. So as Councilwoman Brown brought up, I do have a personal friend who emailed us today concerning this, and I had multiple conversations with her. And what she didn't realize is that this was a an ordinance that would go out that would regulate any new businesses that are being built. And she didn't realize how far reaching it was. And one of the things I have a hesitation with is placing more restrictions on new businesses that are trying to come into this city. I think sometimes we make regulations that we think are easy and to follow and things like that. And then we realize that it's not, always the case. This has already gone in front of the TAG and the Planning Commission. I had multiple conversations with planning commissioners today and have spent a lot of time on the phone today concerning this. I would say one of the things that has been discussed and I think has been determined to be feasible as far as a change would be that the golf cart spacing could be six feet. Is that correct? So it would go from five to six. Correct. So we can change that. Has that been done? The one thing that Stacey did say was it is very difficult where the city has places that advertise it as being accessible as far as all children. And she's saying that she can't get her child off and on the golf cart right there. And so I don't know if there's a way that we And this is just on the side, because I would be curious to know, is there anything that we can do to maybe create some other solutions? But anyways, that doesn't pertain so much to this. But there were certain areas where she was like, you know, if we could figure it out, City Hall, All Children's, and at Mead, some things that we could possibly do, then I think that would be great. Anyway, that's all I have for right now. If anybody else wants to. All right, Mr. Polijak.

Yeah, I would be open to exploring what that could look like on city properties. I'm not sure if tonight or what we're considering here, because it seems like this could lay down a foundation for us. And if Planning Commission and TAG take on additional items like ADA accessibility for golf carts, and that's something I'd be open to exploring, see how the city can accommodate and increase access. Um, but in terms of what we're tackling here tonight, and I think the, if, if there is a recommendation that come forward to increase the parking spots from five to six feet, um, I think that's some, I could support as well. Now that's not, that's applying only to new businesses coming. So it's not like at Braylon, we're going to require. Braylon shopping center to have to restripe is, is that my understanding?

Yeah. Unless they did major renovation, unless they did major upgrades. Okay. So it would, it would trigger at a certain point with construction projects. Okay. But it would apply to any new built new developments.

And I appreciate Laura's comment in terms of our restrictions for, for businesses. I'm not in the mood to create more. And as we do, As we have the UDO review, hopefully we can modernize some of these, whether it's for a homeowner or business coming in, just a little bit less red tape on some of these measures. But I appreciate the work that's been put into this. Thank you.

Mr. Holland?

Thank you, Madam Mayor. We've been a long time coming, getting regulations to control parking and all of those kinds of things for our developers that come into the city. And they're not necessarily businessmen and new individuals, but they're setting up a whole complex that can be possibly used by business. There's never been a real set of regulations for that. for golf cart parking and all of that. It's always been, what do you think? How do we do it? I think that what we've got here with this particular Section 909 is certainly a good start. Is it perfect? No. I never like to get involved with it doesn't have to be perfect as long as you got very good. Right now, we've got nothing. So we're going to go from nothing to very good. Does it really need more? And I asked this of the colleagues here, doesn't it need some, maybe a second look and a third look, but that doesn't preclude that we can't pass this tonight to get the foundation. As I think councilman, uh, Polachek said, get the foundation done and then go back and adjust the things that councilwoman Brown and, and councilwoman Johnson said that need to be done. to make it as close to perfect that we can get. But I don't want to get perfect, excuse me, I don't want to get very good just because we can't get to perfect on the first try. And I also spoke with the commissioners today, and they all said the same thing. Let this one go, guys. Because we can fix it. Send it back to us. Let's add the things in that Mr. Larson has added and other people have added, including this council. So why not just pass this through, get it started, and then fix it? And we've done that on many, many ordinances that we've done. Why would this be any different?

Okay, I agree with what you said. I think the expression is let's not let perfect be the enemy of the good. Thank you. So with that, I'll take a motion. Mayor? Sir?

Can I make one change from a legal standpoint? Please, if you must. On page 178, section 909.1, parking space size, subparagraph B. It references parking for the physically handicapped. Number one, that's an old term. The term under the ADA now is disabled or if they have a disability. Secondly, you don't have to just have a physical handicap in order to secure a handicapped parking or disabled parking sticker or plate. So it's clunky language because I'm trying to do it on the fly but what I'm proposing is we change that section to state that parking for those who are disabled as such term is defined in the latest edition of the Americans with Disabilities Act shall be provided as required in the latest edition of the American with Disabilities Act so see it's clunky but that's the best I can come up with but I just want to make sure we have the right verbiage and the right reference point I think the The end result is no different than what it says here. But again, I just, I don't want to limit the parking solely for those with a physical handicap because the ADA does take into account cognitive or mental disabilities as potentially getting that access for parking.

All right. So you want to form a motion?

You want to do the six feet wide on the... would my part my part of it would just be any reference to five feet for cart parking would be changed would be struck and changed to six feet all right no we just need one with the corrections as stated approve the ordinance as written with the changes for disabled parking as read by the city attorney and to change the width of parking spaces for motorized cars or personal vehicles to be changed from five feet to six feet as that is referenced in the ordinance.

So moved. Second.

I have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? No. Motion carries 4-1. Council staff topics. I'll start. Council, I sent everybody an email on May 11th. and it has to do with, I'll call them pedal carts, non-motorized carts from which someone sells food on private property, and the example I shared was Le Petit Oven, which is a bakery, and they want to be able to sell on the private property of Willow District. Willow District wants them, they want to be there, it's kind of adorable, and we don't have an ordinance that would allow for that. possibly support uh staff spending a little bit of time to to create an ordinance that would provide for that possibility you can put it on an agenda without us i would like to have your signal for sure you have my support are they going to be selling bread is that what i hear oh i'm all for that oh yes i mean essentially is a food truck that's not a truck it's and doesn't cook food

Yeah, and doesn't cook food is the main thing.

It's a mobile sales rack.

It's another thing to support small business. I'm in full support.

So is it more like a rickshaw kind of a situation?

I did send a photo.

Just putting it on the record. Okay. I certainly don't have a problem with that, Madam Mayor.

Any other council staff topics? I have one.

Election Day was on Tuesday. Several races, both for the Republican Party and Democrat Party, will be moving to runoff elections. The runoff will be held on June 16th from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. Early voting as of right this minute is only scheduled to occur from June 8th through the 12th, which is a Monday through Friday. The typical hours of early voting is from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. However, it's my understanding that the Fayette County Board of Elections will be meeting tomorrow to certify the election, plus they do have it on their agenda to possibly extend the time or add more days to early voting. So everybody needs to be aware of what's going on and what comes out of that meeting because the runoff election is right around the corner.

Any others?

I've got a few. I just wanted to say on top of bicycle month, this week is also Public Works Appreciation Week. I know we had a citizen earlier, Mr. Bob, that was talking about the cleanup. I visited it four times as well. I cleaned out my shed. And I agree with you that it was run very well, and there was a ton of trash. Jonathan, do you want to give a little summary of how much was done?

so we didn't get the final tonnage yet but in two days the first day i think we had over 820 visitors the second day was over 900 I think we did 250,000 tons of trash last year, and it looks like we're going to double, it'll be double that this year, based on their manual calculations. It's the biggest I've ever seen.

It was huge. Yeah. So kudos to them for that. And also Recreation had the, what was the event called? It was two weeks ago. Kids to Parks. That went really well with Drake Field. And then I want to remind everybody, too, that Memorial Day is Monday, and we'll be having a ceremony at Kedron this year at 9 a.m.? 9 a.m. So everything in the city will be closed, but we will be having that ceremony at Kedron at 9 a.m. for Memorial Day. Um, and I also wanted to mention too, that I forgot when we were pointing at this map and stuff, I forgot we can touch these screens. Okay. I was like, I couldn't just serve. I was like, I forgot about that. That's it. All right.

Mr. Polichek just one that mayor, uh, in October, this is a scheduling thing for council. The second council meeting in October on October 15th falls during fall break for schools. They are five Thursdays in October. So just, uh, seeing if council, we don't have to decide this today, but in case there's appetite to push that October 15th meeting to October 22nd to accommodate council staff and residents who may be trying to survive with their kids at home.

Okay. We'll have to take a look. That's right. All right. Thank you. Mr. Holland, did you have anything?

Yeah, I just have one thing. It is the holiday weekend. Please drive carefully. There's going to be a lot of people in our city. Use your signals when you're making a turn. Make sure that you're careful on your parking. All of those kind of safety things. Let's make sure Peachtree City stays safe, that no one gets hurt during the festivities.

Thank you. I want to give a shout out to American Legion because they ran the all American run last Saturday and it was a very well run, very well managed race. VFW did a great job. Everybody was there. I managed to do the 5K and I came in second in my age group. I'm quite sure that there were two in my age group. So just keep showing up.

That's the thing. You didn't have to tell us that.

Just keep showing up. You didn't have to say that, Kim. Do we have executive session?

Yes, we do. We need to discuss real estate and executive session.

Can I say one other thing that I forgot to say? You know, we've got Bob Grove here, but I will say this. For anybody who didn't focus on it, Mr. Dave made it back to the school yesterday to see the kids.

Yay.

and he's doing remarkably well from everything that I've heard, and we couldn't be more pleased.

And, oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Just in response to Councilman Polachek, I would possibly recommend the 29th because I'll be out of town on the 22nd. Okay. Just to bring that up.

So we'll circle back. We'll talk about it, yes. All right. Can I get a motion for executive session for?

Real estate.

So moved.

Second.

I have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. We are in executive session. Thank you.