Common Council - Regular Meeting

So we're going to call these public hearing regular meeting executive session of the Parker Common Council to order. Please silence your electronic devices and could we have a roll call of counsel.

Mayor Hartless. Here. Vice Mayor Jentz.

Present.

Council Member Shuntz? Present. Council Member Daniels? Present. Council Member De Leon? Here. Council Member Mananewski? Here. Council Member Granwalt?

Here.

All right. Our first item is a discussion on the adoption of the final budget for fiscal year 26-27. Dennis is on the Zoom.

I am, yes.

It's all yours, Matt. You guys hear me? Yeah. All right.

Okay, well, thank you. I know that we've gone through this process and we've talked about the budget several different times at this point.

What you have before you is the final budget at the regular meeting that will be proposed to be adopted as the final budget for the fiscal year ended 2027. The budget that you have in front of you is the same that you had before you a few weeks ago, with the exception of there was a recommendation to go ahead and add about $6 million to the budget in order to set the budgeted expenditure at $18 million in order to be at the voter approved alternative expenditure limitation amount. And I was in agreement with that as well as management. I think it makes sense to have that included in there, So as a motion later in the meeting is to adopt the fiscal year 2027 budget as presented with budgeted expenditures of $18 million. Okay.

So other than that one change, which thanks for that Z, that was a good idea. Nothing else has changed, Dennis?

No other changes, no, no, based on the tentative budget that we had. And just to reiterate that we did include in that budget, we budgeted about a 3.5% increase for wages. And I think the discussion that we had at the last meeting was that the adoption of the final budget does not automatically put into place any type of wage increase. That would be something that would be brought to council at a later date, but it is incorporated into the budget, whether that's something that... is a permanent wage increase at a later point, whether that's midway through the year, in a few months, or whatever the council decides, or whether that's done as it was done in the past, or not in the past, but last year. where it was paid out as sort of a one-time pay in December. That's a decision that can be made later, but that number is included in the budget. But it doesn't mean that it automatically puts a wage increase in place.

OK. This is a public hearing. So anybody in the audience would like to speak to this budget, you're welcome. Nothing. Council, anything? No. OK. That was easy. Thanks, Dennis.

All right. Thank you.

We're going to close this public hearing, and then we'll open our second public hearing call to order discussion regarding a CUP 202601 application submitted by applicant Timothy Sosamian requesting a conditional use permit to allow a multi-tenant, multi-structure development consisting of modular homes on stem wall foundations with common areas and garages on property designated as listed, located at 1300 and 1308 Desert Avenue, R2MH designation. So, what's CUP, by the way?

C-U-P, it's a Conditional Use Permit.

All right. So go ahead, Nora, if you want to kick this one off.

So the applicant proposes to develop a multi-structural, multi-tenant modular home park on the properties at 1300 and 1308 Desert. This development was brought to you back in May. The developer has asked that the project be brought back to you for reconsideration with recommendations and stipulations. that would be appropriate to the project. The property is zoned correctly for the project. However, a manufacturer home is the underlying zoning. Therefore, conditional use stipulations are needed. The surrounding properties are zoned R1, R2, and HM. They're a mix of stick-built homes, manufacturer's homes surrounding the properties. And then if you go down a little bit farther, it gives you what a conditional use permit actually is and what they're used for. So a conditional use permit is an authorization by the town to allow for use that is generally compatible with the land use permitted by right in the zoning district. This one is. But which requires individual review of their location, design, or configuration. following review and recommendations by the Planning and Zoning Commission and the Town Council may impose conditions in order to ensure the appropriateness of the use at the particular location within a given zoning district. And that's in our town codes on section 10-3-4. I did, I spoke with Timothy quite a bit, and then I went back through our codes and came up with kind of some proposed stipulations that he would need to follow if you guys approved this. So the, and that's on, if you go through your little packet, it's page three. So any changes in use or changes in ownership shall require approval from Town Parker Mayor and Council and shall be based on operational experience and financial stability. He'll need to combine those two properties to create one parcel of 200 foot by 150. This will allow 44 by 16 one bedrooms and 55 by 17 two bedroom units. They shall be ground set and placed on excavated foundations. with permanent foundation walls so that the home appears to have a foundation wall similar to appearance to a conventional site home. He's going to need to, the structure shall meet most Current HUD, which is HUD, code standards and certified under the National Manufactured Home Construction and Safety Standards Act of 1974. And the law of the state of Arizona and the structure should have construction not more than three years prior to the date of the application. In other words, the manufactured home can't be any older than three years. put in there. He's planning on putting brand new ones in there, but if somewhere down the line one needed to be pulled and put back in, it couldn't be more than three years old. Prior to the Application construction permit the applicant shall submit plans as applied and addresses all the common issues and generated a fire protection review and general building code review, the applicant shall provide an approved permit from the state of Arizona Office of Manufacturing Housing. We're not allowed as the town to issue those permits. Because we don't do enough of them, we don't have that contract with them. The manufactured home shall have a minimum of a single car garage or carport designed and material of which shall be comparable with the main structure. Five 12 by 35 garage units shall be rented to occupancy or of the park or used by the property owner. within the park shall be located underground. Street access, road, and parking Facilities shall be graveled and landscaped. The park must be a site obstructing fence. It will on two sides. The other two sides will be used to either get into their carports off of the street. The trash and refuge collection location shall be screened with a six-foot decorative masonry wall. Trash areas shall be located. such that they are convenient to serve the residents of the park and cannot be viewed by the public street. Outdoor lighting shall be approved prior to installation of the building permit. All lighting shall be directed on site and use of angled lighting fixtures and shields to keep lights within the property boundaries. insurance of the grading permits, issuance of the grading permits, and the applicant shall submit a site plan, landscaping plan, building plan, grading plan, and drainage report for staff review and approval. Provide a stormwater retention prevention plan with that drainage report. has to be able to keep that water on his property. If you go to the next page, it's a letter from a couple of the residents that are around there that were here at the last meeting and were very much opposed to this. Plan, however, after listening to kind of the whole conversation with you folks and then speaking with the developer, they have gone back and kind of reevaluated things and are in support of this proposed housing development. If you go to the next page on there, it's kind of a site plan. It's a very rough site plan, but at least it's big enough this time that we can actually read it. So along the One side, he'll have five of the two-bedroom units. Then the other side of the property will be in those. The carports will open out to the street, so you'll get into those with the street. The two up front also will be able to come in from the street. The ones on the other side, he'll have a driveway that will be graveled paved, however he chooses to do that, to enter those carports there. And then the back of the alley will be fenced with either wrought iron or some kind of fencing to keep people from coming into the park from that back alley. And then the next one is just a little kind of picture of what they will sort of look like and how they'll be placed on the lots. And then the last one is just the waiver and release of liability that he understands that he can't hook to the sewer until that is completed. I don't believe he's even going to start building until That sewer is completed. However, he is wanting to get started on the drawings and all the reports and things that are going to actually need to happen prior to even groundbreaking. With that, I will answer any questions that you may have. The developer is also here to answer any questions or give you a little synopsis of what he has in mind.

I will say the last time that this came to us, I had a few different phone calls after the meeting, and I do think some people were under the assumption that it was going to be more of like an Anderson trailer park type of situation. I am all for housing. I will say that out loud. We do not have enough housing in Parker whatsoever. Another thing that was brought to my attention afterwards, a lot of people are afraid for the garages because the storage units that are already in town and they brought up to me the those on Chimauevi that sit on Chimauevi and 11th there's some apartments with garages attached and then there's a huge storage that sits right in the middle and then a house and they were very curious if this garage was gonna look like that do we know do you know what I'm talking about on 11th and Chimauevi I'm trying to think So here's 11th. There's a very, very nice house right on the corner, right behind us, some storage units that were probably built with 2020. And then there's apartments right behind those. Do we know if that's what the garages are going to look like? Are they going to be big like that, like big storage units? Are they going to be just like single car garages, double car garages?

I believe, you can ask to make sure here, but I believe they're single car garages if you'd like to. Oh, okay.

Yeah, the final design on that is not done. But I would say they would be not overly intrusive, but structures that are multi-use. If one of those tenants had a boat, it wouldn't fit in a regular car garage. A wakeboard tower doesn't fit in. So we wouldn't be trying to build a commercial building. I think with this development, you can look and see that we're not trying to build a boat storage disguised as a home with a living quarters in it. So I think it also helps us to keep from overcrowding the property with additional units so that we don't ask for more units, but the monetary cost to put this development together is substantial and there's gotta be a fair amount of revenue to make the thing make sense. I did try on my Laguna property years ago to build apartments and it just didn't pencil out. So I believe that this might work, and I need to go do my homework to make sure it will. But I think when you look at the underground utilities with the power that we need to bring in, there's a threshold with APS as to what we can get in there for free, and then what they start charging. But ultimately, we're going to have to distribute all that. And so the garages, you know, If we don't have some there, we're saying that everybody should leave their stuff outside. And if we have some there, people are afraid they're going to turn into boat storages. That's just not our intent, and I think you could tell by the things that we've done in town that if we wanted to build boat storages, we would be trying to masquerade. More so, I would like to share with you that I have started a business here over the last year and a half or so, and we've got four people working for us now, two or, well, three that I've imported in from out of town, but I've got a couple that I've actually had to go rent one of those rooms inside of a boat storage to put my own people in because we can't find suitable housing. And so it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy for us. We've got other teammates that want to come up and move to town. I think we can see it playing a role for that. But I also think it's the community struggling for good housing. And I'm not the champion of that, but We're trying to come up with something that makes sense, but these things will be targeted towards professionals. There'll be clean, good units with all the amenities that are needed with good common areas, so whether it's internet or be able to have some outdoor services, but there's gonna be towards nurses and doctors and teachers and the people that I've been approached with over time saying, hey, if you'll build it, we can fill it. And that's where I see this thing going. And most of those people aren't really dying to be part of the river. They're just coming here to work. And if we can give them a better place that's closer, that doesn't make me a saint. The thing needs to make money. But I think that we need the housing. And it's my second round trying to come up with something that makes sense. And again, I'm not trying to put 16 homes squished together. Although I guess it's a mobile home park. I promise you that... I'll never make it look like one. That's just not the style that we like to do. And to get premium rent, that's not the look and the curb appeal that we need to get good rent with good tenants. As far as speaking to joint venture and all that, just to be real clear, I am completely aware that there is no building. I'm not asking for any building. It's going to take a lot of time to do the due diligence, the marketing, the drawings, even putting the financing together to be able to do a project like this. And if it's a couple years before Joint Venture's ready, I'd like to at least be able to be prepared to hit the ground running. At my age, I really don't want to start and have it be four or five years down the road before something like this might happen. But I feel like... we've got a plan and I feel like we're pushing all the right buttons. And if anything else, history says that we don't overbuild and we don't take the low road. And I think that's what we're trying to do here as well. And if you guys have any other questions, I'm happy to answer. But I think you kind of know the scope of the job.

I'm curious what changed from the last time The last proposal?

I don't think really anything changed. I think I just gave a better direction for you guys.

I'd like to speak to that, too. So when I left last time, it was kind of like my time was over here, and I walked out to my truck. I was approached by no less than three of the people in the community that came up and approached me while I was sitting inside my truck. And a couple of them said, we just didn't understand. I'm not trying to pretend that I'm speaking for the whole community, but I was approached by these people. And even some of the, there was an elderly gentleman that came up and said, please don't give up on this. This is exactly what we need. And so I felt leaving there that maybe there was a better understanding of the scope and that we weren't trying to have a bunch of vagrants come and camp on a piece of property. And so they were outgoing in their approach to me. I reached out and said, hey, would you be willing to share with the council your current views? And they were. And I didn't go door to door, house to house, but I did try to get something in writing and bring it to you on their behalf and my behalf as well. So, I mean, that's... It was a not don't give up and and and we we really didn't think we were pushing That hard either way. I mean in essence, there's mobile homes that can go on that property now.

We were just trying to I'm just trying to make it Make sense financially without overcrowding and I think we talked about that last time that there is a number of homes he could put on there without a permit which was I

I believe eight.

Eight, okay. So we're talking 12. Okay. Because legally he could do that without coming to us for a special use permit. The property allows that, basically, the zoning.

And the special use permit also puts some guardrails up. So if this property is sold, it comes back to the council and So I think that's, you know, if this doesn't go well in, you know, 12 years and you sell it and somebody else buys it now, now there's some guardrails where we could say this is not working.

And I think there was a similar project a while back in one of our lots that was brought, one of the lots the town had. And I think that was very much an area of concern. And this is, to me, sounds a lot different. So just put that out there. Z, did you have something? Yeah.

So I guess I believe last time where more my question was with rezoning versus conditional use permit. Just from my understanding or from what I remember last time of my opposition to this particular project was having conditional use permit and basically setting a precedent from this point forward. What you're stating right now is that it's zoned properly. So for this particular portion, can you talk about the different zoning portions and why the R2 zoning for this property is the correct zoning or I guess it's a R2 MH zoned right now and is there a different type of zoning that would be more appropriate because Can you talk about the different zoning?

No, the only thing that could be actually be different is if you remove the R2 and And then because it's dual zoned, it just had that MH is the second zoning on that. So most likely that happened typically when they did their first mass zoning in the town. They probably zoned it. There was probably a mobile home on there, or that whole area is double zoned like that. So I'm looking at it thinking, and I don't know this, but what makes sense to me is that it was zoned mobile home to begin with, and then that R2 got kind of piled on top of that. So with that being that under zone, That's where the conditional use comes in, because it has to meet some design standards and that kind of thing in 1034. That's my only kind of.

And Mayor? Attempt. For that particular question, if R2 was removed, if it went through the zoning process and the R2 was removed and left as just MH, what would be the number of housing units allowed over on that property once the lots are married?

It would be eight.

Okay, so.

Per lot.

Well, you would have to join both of those lots.

Both of them combined, then it becomes eight per lot.

So regardless if it's zoned R2 or right now where it's zoned R2MH, or if it was rezoned where it's strictly just MH without the R2, it would not change the density? No. So either way, to get the number of houses over on that property, regardless if it was MH or R2, you're saying it's the same regardless. What's the difference overall in that regard? So the density of the R2, if a property was R2 or if a property was MH, the density of that property is still the same?

So no, R2. You can do, basically, because you would be able to do eight apartments on there. Or if you did double, you could do 16 apartments, I guess.

On an R2.

On an R2.

If they were two-story.

Two-story, yeah. Yes.

Yeah, that's my only real question at this point, is the height of the garages. Because in respect to what Eric is saying, in that neighborhood, there are some really huge, tall storage units. They're like two-story RV garages, or just two-story?

Technically a residence, right? The one you were talking about. Is it? Yeah, it's technically a residence, just like you were explaining. Yeah.

I think that's exactly what we're, that's the one that we've rented for our people. It's a 20-foot tall boat storage with a living quarters upstairs in the corner, and that's not, the reason they're that tall is so they can put the living quarters upstairs and still be able to get the boats below it.

Like a man cave or something they call them? Yeah.

Yeah, I think the fair way to look at it is what does it take to put a wakeboard boat inside a garage? And I think that's the fair compromise and we don't need that loft. And the cost of building that building, every bit that you go up, there's additional cost to it. So there's no real motivation because things rent by the square foot. So height doesn't create more revenue.

And then, Mayor, to answer your first question, like what was the difference? I think the first time this came to us, we had a lot of people here that lived over in that area that were really against it. And then when we left, again, I'll say I got several phone calls. I had about five within that week. And they really pictured in their mind they heard RV Home Park and they thought the old Anderson Park or the park that's behind Circle K. You know I'm a real local when I don't even know these street addresses. I can just... Yeah, over there by Circle K on 16th. But I think that was what was in their head rather than workforce homes is what we kind of would call these.

As the zoning stands now, what are the height restrictions on that lot? Two story. Two story and feet?

I can't answer that question.

It's usually measured from the center of the roadway, and then you have a height restriction. And then the max, I would think, is the one that's built over there. And that person probably took it all the way up to the max.

They do. But you have no intention of doing anything.

No, and my guess would be not knowing what's... feasible there is that a two-story home would have two eight-foot ceilings in it, right? So by the time you put a floor and a roof, you're probably talking 20 feet. And again, that's, you know, for a two-story structure of some kind. So I don't think we'd be anywhere close to that.

Yeah, this thing says 12 by 35, but you're talking 12 wide, 35 long.

Yeah, and I think you're talking about... I would have to think about where we'd go that we could do a flat roof versus a pitched rough to keep the mass down a little bit farther as well. But I would think that, uh Wakeboard boat's probably 12 foot with the tower up, something like that.

It's minimum 12. Yeah, but the homes... The garage door.

Yeah, but I think the homes will be similar. Roof line, because of the pitch and what goes into it. So I don't see it protruding, but I could come up with a solid number on that once I knew what the garage...

There's some homeowners that are doing 14 feet to get through that.

Yeah, 14 foot would be, typically 14 foot is the common door that you should always put on any type of garage for a wakeboard boat, because that's just what works the best. But I could do a little bit of homework on that. But my other structures, I put 14 foot doors on them, on all of them, just because it's the standard size. And with that, if it had a 14-foot door, FYI, you need a 16-foot building to hold the door. It takes two feet above the door opening to hold the drum. So that would be probably what we're talking about. At the most is what I'm trying to say.

Mayor? Did this re-go through planning and zoning?

No.

And why not?

It says it in here somewhere, doesn't it?

Yeah, it doesn't have to.

It didn't need to go through zoning?

It didn't need to go through zoning?

It's just a read.

So the number of units, was that reduced or no?

No.

Nothing was changed?

Not really. Basically, we just came up with a rule. solid conditional use for your kind of benefit and to Give you an idea of what a conditional use permit is used for and what those stipulations are Opposition of it and I know that chains are different

comments. I mean, I know I've been approached by many different people and some pro some against and what some of the comments come out is who are we to tell private property owner how to use their property as long as it's zoned in that So if we were to have you within the confines of the zoning, even if it's multi-layered, and you said, I want to build these mobile homes, what's keeping them from doing that right now?

Right now, because he wants the 12.

Number. Just the number.

Kicks it in, it's double-zoned, right? So that manufactured home is the under-zoned home. So in our code, it's still allowable. But in our code, it says that that under zone has to have a conditional use.

That's where the conditional use permit comes into play.

This is a public hearing and I know Johnny and faith are here from the neighborhood if If you would allow them to come up and speak certainly My name is faith Swisher.

I live in that neighborhood. I can see that property from my house and When we were here last time I was under the impression that Okay, it was okay for him to do eight and I understand that We can't tell him what to do with his own property, but I think he needs to stay within the limits of the zoning. All that whole area is livestock, equestrian. I know he's got some nice buildings on the corner, but I see his guys that he wants to put in them homes fly up and down my road with no consideration. out into the desert. The minute they hit the end of my house, they're flying 50, 60 miles an hour sometimes. And I've yelled at them before. And if he brings 12 in, single family, they're not even single family homes, they're one person, two people homes. He said family last time. One and two bedrooms are not families. How many families do you know that have one vehicle Not many. They normally have three, four. Where are they going to park them all? And he said last time the tenants would have first choice of the units. But if they didn't take them, then he's going to rent them out, which means more traffic in and out of our neighborhood. And I already have people flying up and down that road. You add 12 more units in there, I'm going to have a lot more. Our roads can't handle it over there. They're powder, sugar sand. People come down there, and they fly around them corners. And some of his workers are some of them. So no, I don't want it there. I understand he's allowed to build. But I think the smaller scale, the better. And I know most of the people in my neighborhood that I talk to on a regular basis are in the same boat as me. They don't want 12 units, nine garages, five garages. We already got enough garages in this town. So something to think about. Thank you.

Do you want to say something, sir? Are you here for this public hearing? Yeah, in the yellow shirt.

Observing.

OK.

I'll be up here.

So just to kind of, that's one of the stipulations in this conditional use is that he can't just rent them out to willy-nilly. So those, it either has to be to somebody that is renting, releasing his in the park, or the property owner can use those. So it's not. They're not going to be storage units, I guess is what I'm trying to say, where you have those extra, you know, vehicles going in and out. We made that very clear because storage units can only be put on industrial property. So that would mean he would have to rezone that. Industrial and residential typically do not play well together in the sandbox. So we made that really clear in the stipulations.

Mayor, how would that be enforced after the fact? How would that be enforced like after the fact? Would there be check-ins on that to make sure that they're not being rented out to just anybody?

Yes. Our code enforcement officer, I want to say he's very good. But you can pretty much tell driving by a piece of property that, you know, is this the – the tenant that's using it, or if there's extra cars going in and out. And yeah, we do do checks.

OK. Anybody else? OK. Hearing no other comments, we're going to adjourn this public hearing. Call the regular meeting to order. We have a roll call of council. Heartless. Here.

Vice Mayor Dent.

Present.

Council Member Schatz. Present. Council Member Daniels. Present. Council Member De Leon. Here. Council Member Madoneski. Here. Council Member Granwell.

Here.

Okay, our next item is the Pledge of Allegiance. Join me and please remain standing for Brie McRae is going to do our invocation.

Dear Heavenly Father, we just thank you for this beautiful day. And Lord, I just pray for the mayor and vice mayor and council members as they go about making decisions tonight that affect the town of Parker and the surrounding areas. I just ask that you would just give them clarity on the decisions they're making. And I just ask for your protection for all the town workers as well. It's in your name we pray. Amen.

Okay, our next item is call to the public do we have it no, okay All right.

Our next item is chamber director report from Erica Daniels Good evening mayor and council We are very excited over at the chamber to finally announce that we are launching our youth ambassador chamber club aka known as a yak and It's a new leadership initiative designed to engage local high school students, introduce them to the business community, and help develop the next generation of community leaders. So we'll be at PHS when they start, I believe, August 11th, trying to get some of our kids to join our Yak Club. Is a reminder that this Thursday is our new teacher orientation breakfast that will take place at 8 a.m. at the Elks. It's a wonderful breakfast that they cook over there. I know that some of you did RCP. If you did not and you will be attending, please just let us know tomorrow at some point. Thank you to all of our sponsors, David Plunkett Realty and EWS for filling up those teachers bags this year. We've officially announced our save the date for the annual Chamber Awards Gala, which will be taking place October 17th at the Lake, or at Havasu Springs Resort, rather. So please save that date as well. And then finally, on September 19th, we will be out at the Desert Bar. They are opening up a new restaurant out there, and it's for family and friends and community. First come, first serve. Everything from the restaurant is free that day. Because it is a new restaurant, they want us to kind of be the taste testers. They will have a band out there, and the bar will be open as well. So I hope to see you guys there as well. Thank you.

Thanks, Erica. Okay, our next item is the consent agenda, which may be considered routine. It may be enacted in one motion, unless somebody wants a separate discussion on any of these items.

Probably item C needs to be on its own.

Okay, is that agreeable? We'll discuss item C on its own merit. Maybe even item B, just so we can get a little explanation, Chief. But item A is Town of Parker meeting minutes of July 7, 2026. And I'll make a motion to approve those minutes.

Second.

It's been moved and seconded. Any discussion on the minutes? All those in favor? Motion carries. Item B, MOU between Parker Police, Colorado River Regional Crisis Services, La Paz County Sheriff, La Paz County Attorney, Courtside Police Department, La Paz Regional Hospital relating to services provided by the La Paz County Justice Response Team. If you could just give us a quick one on this, Chief.

So I'm going to read to you the email that Denise sent me here. Basically, it's just a housekeeping thing that we do for the last couple of years. It just puts it in formalities that our agency, the Sheriff's Office, the County Attorney's Office, and Courtside, all work with the crisis shelter. It helps with prosecution of domestic violence Suspects it also helps with the victims So they get the services they need the JRT the justice response team We have representatives from our department and other agencies as well that meet I believe it's monthly I look at her because she used to work there, but I think it's monthly and they just collaborate with what's going on as far as pending cases or Any training that needs to come to the area or what what is coming to the area for the agencies? Okay And it's more so for the grant purposes that they apply for. It doesn't cost any money to us. In fact, I think agencies actually get money from this. And historically, we've just given it back to the shelter because they do more with it than we do.

Yeah, I know there's a new initiative about sexual assault examination. That's what I was wondering if that was this.

I don't know if it's this one exactly. I know they've been trying to get a grant to get a SANE nurse at the hospital here at La Paz, and Zafar can probably talk more about that than I can. I don't think they were successful the last time they applied for it, but I think it's in this grant. But to have this in place, it does help with their... grant applications and to hopefully put them higher on the list to receive that money.

Okay. All right. Any question on this item? No? I would entertain a motion.

Motion to approve.

So moved and seconded to approve the MOU as discussed. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Item C, two-year program services agreement with the Parker Regional Chamber of Commerce and Tourism with an annual payment of $48,000. Nora?

So this is the same agreement that we've had for the last five, six years, I think. The only difference being we changed the dates in it. Everything else has stayed the same.

And this is bed tax?

Yes.

Which really is the whole purpose of the bed tax originally was to fund the chamber. So this is good.

Chamber and tourism.

OK. Any discussion, questions? Anybody? Comments? Hearing none, I will make a motion to approve the program services agreement with the Parker Regional Chamber of Commerce and Tourism with annual payment of $48,000 from bed tax money.

I'll second it.

It's been moved and seconded. Any discussion?

I think we should make note that Erica is not going to, she's not on the dais to make a decision on this item. Yeah, it'll be in the notes.

She's recusing herself.

Why is that?

It has been moved and seconded. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Item one, I've been told we're going to table this.

We would like to. For the time.

So item two, discussion and action to approve, deny adopting the final budget for fiscal year 26-27. Do we have any? Yeah, go ahead, Dennis.

Yeah, just real quickly, just to reiterate what I did during the public hearing. So what we have before you is the final budget for the fiscal year ended 2027 and we're recommending a budget budget expenditures of $18 million as we discussed during the public hearing.

And that's with a considerable cushion. Just so people in the public understand that we're not planning to spend $18 million. And if we do, it's going to be because we got a big fat grant or some funding.

Yeah. So at the last meeting, just to reiterate for the public, at the last meeting, a decision was made to go ahead and put the budget at the voter-approved alternative expenditure limitation amount. And that increased the budget by about $6 million It was put into the budget, a budgeted expenditure of $6 million with an offsetting revenue of $6 million. That's not a specific revenue source or expenditure that we currently know of, but this would be more of a cushion if we do get grant revenues for certain street projects or whatnot. We have the ability to be able to use those funds.

Gotcha. Okay. Any questions, discussion?

I guess you did your job, Dennis.

All right, I'll entertain a motion then.

I will make a motion to approve the final budget for the fiscal year 26-27 as presented.

I second.

Okay, it's been moved and seconded to approve the adoption of the final budget. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion carried. Item three, discussion action to approve deny the conditional use permit of docket 2601 submitted by applicant Timothy Sousamian requesting a permit as discussed for multi-tenant, multi-structure development consisting of modular homes on stern wall foundation with common areas and garages on the property designated As listed, it's located at 1300 and 1308 Desert Avenue, zoned R2 and mobile home. Okay, Nora, you want to add anything?

I don't have anything unless you have questions.

Okay, council, any questions or discussion?

Mayor, what I would say overall with my opposition to this last time came from the fact that I thought it should have been rezoning instead of conditional use permit. I was under the, I would say, assumption last time that if it was rezoned into mobile housing just by itself that it would allow for that 12 residential units without any of those conditional use permits portion. So that's where That portion of last time where a lot of my discussion came from was with the thought that it should have been a rezoning instead of conditional use permit. I was concerned that with adding a conditional use permit over here, then it would open up any R2 type of residence to allow those R2 properties to further ask for this portion and set a precedent from this point forward. With the now understanding that that's not allowed, that changes the thought process overall for me with what should have been. Because again, last time I was more on the direction of rezoning versus conditional use permit. But now with that understanding, I could see where this is the direction that the only direction for this to move forward to go happen.

I'm gonna kind of hit off like what Zee and Erica were saying is listening to the community. I know, for instance, we have the teachers coming in. 20 new teachers this year, and they don't have homes at all for these teachers. I know I was against this to begin with also, but telling somebody what they can and can't do on a property is kind of redundant for me to kind of, do that um am i still thinking that 12 is a lot yes um but you know i don't want to tell you to you know i still think eight is a good number um but i don't want you to walk away from a plan that you ha you do have so that's that's my personal feeling and what i've heard a lot around town so

Mayor, so just to kind of touch on that a little bit, he still has to meet all the setback requirements. He has to meet the open requirements. So he has to have so many feet of open where there's no landscaping or where there is landscaping. And he has to meet those setbacks between mobile homes and garages and all of the things. So it sounds like a lot, but once you actually get on there and you kind of look at it. There's space in between each one of those. You've got your setbacks. I don't know, it works. Is it gonna be a little crowded? Yes, but it all fits within those setbacks and numbers.

Hmm. Just for my reference, over with my hospital property over there, how many parcels of land is that? So we have 24 units on that property right there. Do you know how many parcels that's married together?

One parcel? But it's originally two, right? No, six lots. It's six lots.

For that comparison. To put it in the context of this footprint.

It would be half the size that you... Little less than half the size that you have over there.

And half the structures.

And half the structures, so kind of.

And it's always a mobile home park.

Yeah, so I'm just thinking just for comparison portion, that's, I mean, overall, there's a lot, a lot of room over with our hospital property that has 24 portions, 24 lots. Those, in a sense, we call tiny houses over there on those property. There is a lot of room.

Yeah, and I appreciate hearing from you guys that live in the neighborhood. It's a balance between we really need housing. And to me, one bedroom, two bedroom, it's not a huge family, but it's, like Josh said, there's teachers coming in that may have one child or a couple. I think it's important and and you know, I get it. You live in a rural area. You want to keep it wide open space. But on the other hand, it's it's progress and we are one square mile. We don't have a lot of a lot of place to go. Um, but I like the fact that there's this conditional use permit because it lays out a lot of things that can and cannot happen. And I feel more comfortable with that. And like I said, we've had other projects brought before us that did look like they were going to be another mobile home park kind of situation with very little structure and control. And this, to me, lays out exactly what needs to happen. And I appreciate that.

I think Chief knows now, too, that some of his units will be out on Desert Avenue.

I did write that down. It sounds like a law enforcement issue of people speeding up and down that road. So, yeah. Signs or speed bumps?

I just have a question. Nora, with the other properties, we said the hospital property, were there any conditional use issues or problems

No, because that was actually zoned a mobile home park.

No, I just wanted to see. They had no guardrail, so to speak, like you said, Marion.

Nothing other than the building code itself was basically. And then the HUD. manufactured state.

And then those changes came in many different times. There was 36, and there was 24, then there was all these other different things prior to the hospital coming in.

kept going, moving into that development. He started out with 36, and then he went down to 24. And then he was going to do where he was going to split them all out and do parcels for each one and sell each one. And then it ended up where we are today, where it's one big parcel, and they're leasing out or renting those. And nobody's actually buying them at this point. So to have these stipulations that are a much better kind of project.

On number one, it says that any changes have to come before the council. But the other one that kind of stuck out, I mean, again, it's just me being private property. I love my own freedoms, is that they have to come back to us on a sale. So...

And you could change that. That just kind of is put in there more for, are they going to have the funds to continue that park in an appropriate manner so it doesn't end up being- Just another due diligence phase that would go into that in the future?

Right.

Mayor, question. So you've mentioned that the other one's licensed mobile home park compared to just mobile home. If that was rezoned as a mobile home park, would the density be allowed to be?

I don't know. I would have to look at that. because you've got park and then you've got subdivision, which are two separate things. So with that being a park, they could have actually put in RVs or spaces for RVs as well as the homes that they put in there. They chose not to do that, but they could have with that zoning.

Kind of like Lazy D. You got mobile homes and RVs and all of that.

We would really prefer not to.

Is there any sort of zoning that allows for that mobile home park density? You said mobile home subdivision is another zoning portion?

Right. And that's pretty much what this is, is the underlay, is the mobile home subdivision.

OK. But mobile home park allows for fifth wheel trailers to be placed over there?

In a subdivision, typically those get parceled out. And they sell the mobile home on top of the land. So you end up buying the mobile home and the land underneath it. You don't buy the green belts or the roads or any of that. That goes under an HOA. Whereas what he's doing now is just one lot. And we give him the stipulations of what we want on there.

So is there any sort of zoning at all to allow for that higher density to get to the density that he wants through rezoning?

No. Where he's at right now, for what the project he wants to do, he's got the best zoning he can get.

I get best zoning, but is there to allow that higher density?

If he wants to do a mobile home, Subdivision then yeah, he could probably go more but again He would have to come back to you guys and you would have to approve that and then there's a lot more things that have to happen between now and then public reports And you're saying that's the zoning that's where my hospital portion portion is that subdivision Which allows for that higher density

I think it was the only one that was zoned out. Yes. I don't know if you were trying to look at, see if there was any way that that zoning could be applied or brought back for this project.

Yeah, correct. I think as a whole, I like the rezoning process rather than conditional use. I have concerns with... concerns with conditional use that it's more one-off portions and then if we don't uniformly apply it to other say our two properties that assets from the future are we put at some sort of risk in the future saying that we're uniquely giving it to one property versus another so if there's avenues of rezoning that seems like the like how you said, cleaner direction to go rather than singularly handing out conditional use permits when there is other options available.

Excuse me. Can I speak on that? But that's his choice.

We're not in public hearing, but can we? OK. Yeah, go ahead.

To speak to that, to look at rezoning it into a mobile home park, I believe the density is far greater. And the amount of units that we could put on that property would be far greater. And if I was given that opportunity, there's probably a chance I'd want to exploit that. But that's just not the development that I want to do. I want to try to move away from that. And the only reason I'm using pre-manufactured homes or mobile homes is because it's cost effective. To do a stick build on the property, it does not work. If they were called modular homes, I would be calling them that. But technically, they still are mobile homes. But ultimately, it's the most cost efficient way to have a multi-unit development without overcrowding. And I could easily have removed those garages and tried to ask for 16 units because I believe they easily fit. And that's just not our intention. I think that The 12 although we might feel like we're adding to something the amount of space that we actually have is more than sufficient enough to to have Double carports for all these to have parking along the street and to have a set of garages and and green space for for them to have to have space to move around there, so I Think it's an open not overly dense, just a few more units than what's already agreed to in the system. And maybe that was arbitrary at some point in time. That's a number that's in the books, and I understand that. And I'm not, you know, am I asking for an exception to the rule? I don't quite see it like that. I'm trying to develop a housing project that makes sense financially, that we could make happen, because if you said that I could put eight homes on there, that would be great, but I don't think it'll pencil out. I really don't. I think it's got to be pre-manufactured. I think the way that we're trying to set them up is as close to, or better than some stick-built homes with the foundation we're talking about, but I don't necessarily look at it as overcrowding, but if we were to rezone, you would be asking, typically, you're always looking for the best return on your buck, right? And if I could put 18 of them in there, then I would probably push for that 18. And I'm not trying to do that. I'm just trying to say that when you open up that door, that sometimes we tend to walk in it. And if it pimples out really good, we'd want to look at it that way. So I think this is a real happy medium that gives plenty of space and covers the type of tenants that we're looking for and gives them the opportunity to be close to their workforce and not have to travel 35 miles each direction to come to work in this town. Thank you.

Kind of to your point, the only time that we would do this conditional use or be obligated to do it is if another property came up that is R2 with that mobile home underneath it. R2 couldn't be able to put the mobile, just arbitrarily couldn't put that mobile homes on that lot. So we have, I think, I looked it up. I think there's six or seven more lots in town that have this type of zoning. Most of them already have either a mobile home on them or a house, a stick-built house on them. And they are all on that side of town. Unfortunately, one of the biggest ones, the church over there is built on an R2 with the mobile home underneath it zoning. How would that happen?

No idea.

None.

I will add. Oh, go ahead. I will add I'm all for housing. I think that we really, really need it, if not only for workforce, but for our locals here. It's hard to find a place. I know when we talked about the condominiums, I think is what they're referred to as now on COFA. I was totally against them because they were for sale. And if you look at them now, they're still empty. I like that these are for rent and that they are going to be for rent, right? Yes, that these are for rent. And then they also have the opportunity to rent out garages as well. So that's one thing that I do really, really like about this and our workforce. And yes, we have 20 teachers coming, and half of them do not have a place to live yet.

We're looking at three years down the line. But yeah, we're planning for three years.

Mayor, I would also say that all of my 24 houses over that hospital are booked up. Yes. And at that one to two units.

I think she's referring to the. Yeah, I know the other direction.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know which one you're doing, but just also in other reference, we are all booked up just with. I heard you guys have a wait list.

Yeah.

That's pretty good. And I will throw out there that they are leasing those.

They changed their minds because they were just selling them at first, right? They were only selling them at first.

They have six of them leased right now. Good. Okay. Any further discussion or comments?

I think this, again, it doesn't solve our issue with housing, but it's a step forward in the right direction to open up some more avenues to a side of town where I feel like development like that could use it. Again, hopefully Chief took note of some of the speeding, but it seems like the developers is really familiar with our area and I'm sure would be able to talk to his employees or just, again, his tenants if they were speeding and making the neighborhood a little bit dangerous, but I really like this idea to be able to offer our town additional units for rent. Again, our town needs it.

Okay, I'll entertain a motion with that said.

I'll make the motion to approve the conditional use permit to allow multi-tenant, multi-structure development consisting of the modular homes on stem wall foundations with common areas and garages on property designated as APN 311-0-5-052C and 311-0-5-052D as presented.

Okay. I'll second. So moved and seconded. Any further discussion? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? NAY. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 4 IS DISCUSSION AND ACTION RELATING TO THE COMMON INTEREST AND CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT BETWEEN JOINT VENTURE, THE TOWN OF PARKER AND THE COLORADO RIVER INDIAN TRIBES AND OTHER PROPOSED AGREEMENTS WITH JOINT VENTURE AND THE COLORADO RIVER INDIAN TRIBES. The council will vote to discuss this matter in executive session, in my opinion, pursuant to ARS 38-431.03823 and 6 to discuss confidential documents for legal advice and to direct town staff relating to negotiations with these entities. So I will make a motion we go into executive session.

Second.

It's been moved and seconded. Any discussion?

I'd like to go into executive on that second one as well. Yes.

Let's add item five to that executive session too. That way you don't have to hang out and wait.

If you could just make another separate motion.

I'll make a motion to go to executive session for item five as well. I'll second.

So moved and seconded to go into executive session for item five as well. All those in favor? Aye.