City Commission - Regular Meeting

everybody and welcome. Um, I'll go ahead and call this meeting to order on February 24th, 2023, 2026, and ask the city clerk to please call roll. Commissioner Henderson, present. Commissioner Smith, here. Commissioner Thomas, present. Commissioner Wilson, present. Mayor Bray, here. So, uh, I would ask Commissioner Wilson, please, to do the invocation, and then we'll remain standing for the pledge of allegiance afterwards.

Let us pray. Heavenly Father, thank you on behalf of all of us who are gathered here for the many blessings that we have. Um, thank you for the ability to be involved in useful work. We come to you asking for your guidance and support as we begin this meeting. Please grant us wisdom and be with us as we make decisions on behalf of our city and our community and our citizens. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Okay. First up, we have a uh presentation from Jonathan Perkins Jr. uh and he's going to give us an uh an update on the tree advisory board which uh we reformulated this last year and of which uh Jonathan is the chairman. All right. Thanks for being here, Jonathan.

Well, thank you all for for hosting me even though I'm now required by ordinance to to present an update to you. So, um so I'm Jonathan Perkins. I am the chairman of Paduka Tree Advisory Board. Um, one of my fellow uh board members, Bonnie Kovitz, is here and then Amy Clark is is also our liaison, I guess, to the city or title for that. Um, but we're just here to update you on kind of what the tree board has been doing, what it's challenged to do, and what we would like to do in the near future. So, um, assuming you're able to hear this well. So again, our board is made up of of uh six members including Amy Clark and Bonnie. Um we have a utility representative who is here or excuse me who is on our board um from Paduka Power Service and he is a great leazison for us to what happens in our town with respect to utility overhead utility pruning. So he's he's a good resource to have on there. Um others are um Jenny McCormack and Tyler Sanderson who are citizen members of the board and um Tyler is a new addition this year as well as Bonnie. Um according to our ordinance, this was one of those things that was updated and amended this year. Um we've been given basically eight tasks. Um, one of the most important and probably the biggest thing that puts me in front of you all today is that we are as a board challenge to promote urban forestry. So, um, that being our entire ecosystem, for lack of better words, of the trees, any of the plant material, even technically you break it down to wildlife and things like that that are around us in our in and throughout our community, but we predominantly think of

trees when we think of our urban forest. So, um, it's a very big and obvious sign of what we got. um looking at what we're doing and hope to do, you know, it was pointed out to me that, you know, really I need to think about your all's commission priorities. And um so digging into that a little bit, there were two that really stood out that we really fit into in my opinion. That would be the quality of life and the continuous improvement priorities. Um that being uh quality of life being with respect to trees and how they affect our communities, how they affect us both socially, emotionally, uh physically. And then also on the continuous improvement priority side, trees affect storm water, which a lot of people don't think about, but um if we didn't have the trees that we have, we'd have a lot more water running across our land, running in our sewer systems, overcharging our our existing infrastructure. And so trees are one of those things that continue as they get older and bigger, they actually increase in their value as a resource and as a a form of infrastructure. So very important. 2026 we've kind of uh tried to establish a list of goals that we've never really thought about in the past. Um, usually we've kind of kind of had some really informal thoughts on things that we might like to do. Some things are are some of these goals are things that we have uh participated in in the past that we'd like to continue to participate in. Um, and but uh there were seven goals that we identified specifically for this and it's in your handout too. But um goal number one and as it relates to um our commission priorities here is not really recreating but reinstating and and creating new content for anformational newsletter that we've tried to put out. Uh Pam

Spencer has worked with us in the past. We did one newsletter or a pro service announcement if you will. I think it was in 2025. It may have been the end of 2024. Um, but we'd like to look at doing more of those for the public. Um, on topics like I've listed some examples that we'd like to explore, but things like responding to lightning damage. You know, these are common questions that people want to know things about. How should I take care of my tree? What uh what type of tree should I plant and where? Things like that. So, um that's something that we're challenging ourselves to get out there in front of the community on a little more this year. Goal number two is related to the the tree voucher program which was instated last year that you were speaking on there. So we have been asked to advise assist with those inspections and so on. Um and also we're finding as that develops and grows into something um bigger that there are a lot of people that really care about their trees. I told Amy I'd prompt her but she said we've had 600 plus applications for the tree voucher program this year. Imagine that.

That's a great and only what 400 upper 400s maybe are applicable due to where they live or not and some you know things that disqualify them but but yeah that amount the amount of interest that is there and this was just from residential properties for those of you who don't know um you know that it was a lot of interest and actually I've heard from commercial properties they're like are we ever going to do it for us? can we not plant trees on our industrial and commercial properties?

And I was like, yeah, that's a excellent idea because most of those sites are obviously kind of barren and so so stressing that in the future is going to be a great thing. So hopefully we'll be able to look at that and do that. Um I've also gotten interested volunteers from like some of our garden club membership. Even the uh urban forestry coordinator from the Kentucky Division of Forestry has volunteered to come and do some of our inspections if he's needed. So he just told me that last week. So, that's positive. Um, goal number three, and this relates to uh what parks is doing um primarily, this isn't the name of it, but I call it cuz I think it sounds cool. But they're doing a 100 trees for 100 years in Noble Park program where they're going to plant I guess midsummer is kind of where you're shooting this upcoming summer. and um they were going to plant 100 trees in honor of the 100th anniversary of Bobno Park. So obviously you all know it's our largest park. It's very very treey and but it's also a park that needs new trees because a lot of the trees are old and I know we've had these conversations a few of us but the trees are old and we've had a lot die or get damaged and so now we got to replenish. So this is a really good initiative that we hope to help with. Do do we have any idea, excuse me for interrupting, but do we have any idea how many trees are actually in Noble Park?

There was an inventory done with Mark Thompson probably 15 20 years ago, but I don't that I think it was actually also done in relationship to the ice storm because there was some sense, you know, when that when that came through, but there's some documents somewhere that I've seen. I we'll find that out. But if you Well, I was just asking because I just wondered how many 100 trees initially sounds like a lot, but I don't know if we have, you know, 3,000 and in there. I I just don't know what the number is. You know, might surprise us. But I would take a ballpark and say, I mean, obviously you have trees of all different shapes and sizes and ages, but

I would say of the large mature trees that you see mostly throughout the center of the park, I don't I bet there's 500 plus, would you think, Amy? I mean, again, ballparking. Then you got all the other stuff that's grown up on its own in the last, say, 50 years, right? So, um, there's a lot, but a lot of those trees, like I said, are the same age or they're the same species. So, hopefully we'll be able to kind of put a little mix in there and some diversity. So,

um, and this, you know, I think that's maybe even a starting point. Noble Park's a starting point for us doing this throughout the city. So, and I know that's been a mission for a couple of you. Um, so that could be a great starting point, a good example, um, uh, for us to move forward with. Um, uh, goal four, and this is something that maybe some others have seen in communities around the state or other parts of the nation. But, uh, I'd really like to see us pursue this tree price tag concept. So, literally, it's like it sounds. You're you're you're going and selecting what I'm calling high value trees, whether they be important cultural trees like the the state champion post oak at the courthouse or something like that, but trees that have significance to us, but putting literally putting a price tag on them that quantifies this is how much financial value this tree has to our community. So uh it could be anything from how much carbon it captures throughout the year, how much storm water it cleans, how much energy savings there are with respect to heating and cooling your home, things like that. So um there there is a a source called iTree that actually you can put some data into and it'll crunch numbers for you. We would then put them on a literal price tag and tie those to whichever trees we identify. And I I mean it's a screaming it screams, you know, like look at me if you got this big goofy tag hanging on a tree. But it brings attention to what we're trying to point out that the trees have a value. So, and they're not just, you know, just for looks, just for aesthetics. So, um, goal five, I think this was one that probably can be done pretty shortly, at least at this first level. Um, I think

we'd be very interested in there being um an accredited arburetum in Paduka. We have, I think, some small collections around the city of trees over the years, WKCTC's campus being one of those areas. Um, but we have a lot of beautiful trees. We have a lot of diversity in our tree species in this town. And I think it's probably pretty feasible for us to look at even public properties right now and say we can we can tackle making this meet the criteria for in this case a level one accredititation through the the Morton Arboritum. Um, and it's basically we're we're picking I think it's 25 different tree species, doing some labeling, providing access, saying that there's someone that's managing those trees, and then it puts it, I think, ultimately into a database with other arboritums or arborita around the nation. So, I I just think that's kind of a cool, easy, lowhanging fruit thing we could look at this year, next year. So, um, goal six, this is something that we do presently do. We have, um, uh, each year, oh, I skipped a whole slide. I'm sorry, but I'll go back to that maybe. But each year we participate in the, um, WKCTC's Earth Week celebration, which is now held at the farmers market. Some of you may have seen me there or seen our booth. Bonnie was there with me last year. Oh, hi Jenny. There's one of our other board members. Um, but it's been a it's that has been a great resource for us to be able to just sit down with people and just they can come with a any kind of silly questions they have and uh related to trees or sometimes not related to trees and uh sometimes of course you know as government officials you get complaints

but usually people are pretty pretty are pretty kind and just want to know more. So that gives us an opportunity to talk to them and and and spread information. We use these brochures that are shown in the the photo there. We do currently use those brochures right now to leave with people at that event or if I meet with somebody in person, I can say here's how the industry says that you need a mulch tree or here's how you should be selecting good plant material or pests that might be common to trees, things like that. So, we'd like to pursue honestly buying more of those to keep doing this um as we move into the future. So, that's a pretty simple little thing. We just like to continue it. Goal 7 is um another simple one. at events like that, the WKCTC event. Um, we'd like to just be able to have a little more representation visually as to who we are because I think sometimes, um, as many as you know, many of you know, I I'm an arborist and I have a side business, too. And people think that when I'm sitting out there that I'm representing just me when I'm actually representing the tree board. So, there's some confusion there. And I'd like, you know, I think this could help, you know, give us a more

You You should do that on your Monday morning. Monday morning. What am I missing? I'm just There's There's no reason to wait on that, basically. Oh, well. Okay. We won't vote on that one. I mean, you know, it's manager can approve that without Well, there we go. Well, I figured some of these I mean, the brochures came out of planning's budget a few years ago the last time. So, um, so I'm not above asking. We can make that happen rather quickly. Well, I'm not above asking. So, I'm going to ask. Can we have some money? And you don't have to wait till Monday. Call asking me in the morning. You can do it tomorrow morning.

Um, sorry. This is the slide I forgot. I guess it flipped too through too quickly earlier. In 2025, just pointing out kind of some of the things we did. We did participate in tree plantings at Noble Park, some new trees with Arbor Day that parks department, excuse me, that the parks department host. And then, as I mentioned, the Earth Day celebration with WKCTC. Um, we've done the board itself does public tree reviews for trees on public property. So, we'll get requests from public works department, parks, engineering, whoever. Um, now it's all streamlined, I believe, through parks, but they ask us to evaluate trees that are in our community. And um our goal is to determine whether that tree should stay or go. Generally speaking, we try to give an educated opinion on that tree being able to stay or how we can uh address that tree so it could stay. So we're not trying to be in the market for taking down trees obviously, but um we do have to consider safety clearly. Um you all know that more than anybody. um the voucher program, we assisted you all with that um as a board. Uh and then the code of ordinances, some of those changes, those were were um discussed with with our board and you know, so we're able to advise on that and hopefully that particular type of conversation will continue to take place in the future because you know, it's a it needs to be a living document that we're always improving. Um, and I think I think with the people that are in place right now that we'll continue to improve and we'll continue to get better on how we com we evaluate and and view our community from a development standpoint. Um, I think the last big thing that we do and this really is heavily pushed through parks and I think planning is this year we celebrated or 2025 we celebrated our 34th consecutive year as

a Tree City USA city. So, that's uh that's a pretty big and long-standing commitment and accomplishment. So, um I just, you know, I think we'll continue to push that in the future and I just am glad that we're able to be a part of that. So, but if you have any other questions for me, let me let me know because that's all I've got for my update. I think you all I gave each one of you a document too that sum the same thing up but questions or comments I have comment just thank you and your board thank you ladies and these are our meeting dates so everybody's welcome to come by the way

oh excellent for your hard work I know this is something that people don't see and you when you plant a tree you're not going to see an immediate impact from it it's going to be 10 20 years down the road and so you have to be a visionary area and I appreciate you doing that and supporting the tree program because uh that's really important for the beauty of this city. Trees are dying each year through old age, but also storms and things like that. And I think you walk by a lot of homes and you can see, you know, kind of like a hole or a divot where a tree used to be a long time ago. And I don't think people think about replacing them,

right? And so I'd appreciate anything that you can do to raise that consciousness because it really makes a neighborhood a lot more attractive. And and I'll even build on what you're saying. You're talking about a hole or divot in the yard. I can think of major trees in Paduka that have been removed over the last 10 years where it has made a major divot or a hole in the skyline. Um there's one by Puka Middle School that I was just heartbroken to see come out a few years ago because it was the biggest tree on that street and it was a sad day because there is now a hole there. But that's me tree hugging.

Yeah. I I just I think we're very blessed to have somebody as passionate as you are uh who wants to lead the tree advisory committee. I'm I'm very thankful for that. Uh you know, I think the commission really established this last year when we redid the ordinance that it's important to us. And you know, you and I have had some, you know, several conversations about that. And uh so I appreciate very much your leadership, all the all the goals that you established. I mean, they all sound, you know, excellent. um you know getting a newsletter out with Pam's help somehow um every so often and you know I think would be great uh and would establish with people you know in our community that that we are serious about trees. Uh I really, you know, just speaking personally, uh before I got elected the first time, I I just I really didn't think about it that much, you know, and and then once you have the responsibility of of the city, uh it dawns on you,

right? uh that you know we have all these trees out there and that we're really responsible you know for all of them in public public spots but also we have a responsibility to lead in the way that you know that we address the issue and so um and I want to talk a little bit about money and not that you need to you know need to spend a lot of money but

but one of the things I run into as mayor is that you know we point to all these boards And it's like there's this culture of, you know, well, the city's not going to give us any money to do the work that we appoint you to the boards to do, you know, and and obviously we have to take into consideration any requests for money, you know, that that a board wants to utilize, but but really, you know, you just need to ask Yeah. You need to, you know, put together a little budget of how, you know, you want to spend the money. But but going out and buying a tablecloth for farmers market would be at the top of the list I would think. Good. You know and

we've always managed in the years past and I know prior to me being here that you know some of these things were not priorities for the tree board. So some of that has changed. So so I'm glad to hear I appreciate hearing that from you. So just don't have too much of your dad in you. You know I mean as far as you know pinching pennies. He's a saver. I got to I got to spin. No. So, um anyway, we're just I'm just um I'm just super appreciative of all the work that you're doing and I'm just tickled to death at the success we've had with the,

you know, 400 people that, you know, the the tree program that we introduced. Uh Commissioner Smith and I worked on that together and it's been well accepted and um so I think we ought to build upon that and do more in the future. We got to get those trees planted first, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, that's uh Yeah, that's the hard part. Yeah. So, anybody else? And I did have one question with the planting the 100 trees initiative. Um and you may have mentioned it, but I may have missed it, but with I remember last year somebody had brought up about like food trees, you know, apple trees, fruit trees, and things like that. Has that been looked into as a possibility?

Uh I I don't know with respect to the 100 trees if that's been something there. I would imagine and I might be speaking out of turn here with respect to Amy's work on that. Um but I think probably what we're looking at with the 100 trees is more probably shade trees, canopy trees, um the fruit tree and public or uh um urban farming sort of conversation and I've I've had that discussion with I think both of you maybe or you and then you've disseminated information. Um, but I think there is a definitely a time and a place. I think what this is my personal opinion, what I will always fall back on is who's going to take care of those trees. And so, while I agree that urban for uh foraging and things like that is a great thing to have, I love fruit trees, but I know that fruit trees sound great until we get into actually doing them. And then I'm thinking of a particular apple tree project in Paduka that just sounded great and then it's no longer in existence. And so it was a great idea and there was a lot of support behind it. But you know it's getting people and then maybe this is I don't want to put this on the tree board but getting people energized and want getting them to want to participate in those programs I think is is the next big step. So, um, if they can be integrated into smaller projects, I think that would be perfect. But to just put them in a tree in a like in a planting strip or right away and expecting people to take care of them and and again, it's my opinion. But I think that people won't stand behind it like we want them to. We'll be stuck with a lot of apples riding on the tree.

Gotcha. Uh Jenny and Bonnie, thank you uh for being here tonight and also thank you for your your work on the tree board. We appreciate it. Commission appreciates it very much. Yeah. All right. Okay. Anything else? No, you'll have my contact if you need me. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate you all. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Okay, I'm going to move on to the consent agenda. Um items on the consent agenda are considered to be routine by the board of commissioners and will be enacted by one motion and one vote. Uh there'll be no separate discussion on these items unless one of our board members uh requests in which event the item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered separately. Um I'll ask the city clerk to read those items unless somebody has one that they want to pull off. Okay.

Approve minutes for the February 10th, 2026 Board of Commissioners meeting. Receive and file documents, personnel actions, a municipal order authorizing the application for and acceptance of an fiscal year 2027 highway safety grant in the amount of $25,000 through the Kentucky Office of Highway Safety for overtime pay for officer officers and authorizing the mayor to execute all documents related to same. A municipal order authorizing and directing the city manager to initiate a request for proposals for a historic structure report for Hotel Metropolitan. A municipal order authorizing the city manager to execute a contract with Tyler Technologies in the amount of $44,650 for the upgrade of Tyler Public Safety Servers. Municipal order approving an upper story residential grant in the amount of $45,000 for the property located at 620 Broadway. A municipal order adopting contract modification number one to the contract with Reliable Electric LLC for the Dolly McNut Plaza project to increase the price of the contract by $1,463 for a total contract price of $60,443 and authorizing the mayor to execute the contract modification and all other documents related to same a municipal order authorizing the mayor to execute a declaration of trust and trust participation agreement with the Kentucky League of Cities Insurance Services for the workers compensation trust. A municipal order authorizing the application and acceptance of a Kentucky Heritage Council certified local government grant in the amount of $30,000 authorizing the acceptance of any and all grant funds and authorizing the mayor to execute all documents related to same.

So move second call. Commissioner Henderson I. Commissioner Smith I. Commissioner Thomas I. Commissioner Wilson I. Mayor Bray I. We have uh two ordinances to adopt tonight. Uh the first one is uh the repeal and replacement uh of a code of ordinances related to rental occupancy. And I'll ask the city clerk to read that one, please.

A proposed motion that the board of commissioners adopt an ordinance entitled an ordinance repealing and replacing chapter 42 of the code of ordinances relating to rental occupancy permits and inspections. This ordinance is summarized as follows. This ordinance repeals and replaces chapter 42 of the Puga Code of Ordinances related to registration, permitting, and inspections of rental dwelling units. Rental dwelling units consisting of one and two family units are subject to enforcement and shall be registered with the fire prevention office by July 1 of each year. Failure to register shall result in a $100 fine per unit. A moratorium allows units occupied before March 1, 2026 to register without fine by January 1, 2027. New rental units must be registered within 30 days of availability. Landlords must apply annually for rental occupancy permits by July 1, providing detailed contact information for owners, agents, and responsible persons, along with property addresses for units. The annual permitting and inspection fee shall be $50 per unit, not to exceed $500 for total for all units owned by a single property owner. Permit shall be valid for one fiscal year. Standards for issuance shall include substantial code compliance, possession of business license, payment of all applicable city taxes, fees, and leans. Procedures are set forth whereby inspection shall occur annually with discretionary authorization for selfestation in lie of on-site inspections. Inspection shall verify compliance with building, electrical, fire, and property maintenance codes. Procedures for follow-up inspections and associated fines are set forth. Inspection policies prioritize geographic distribution, tax delinquency, landlord compliance history, and police reports of criminal activity. Procedures are set forth for violation of code triggering written notices in a correction period, as well as for denial or suspension of notices, appeal rights, requirements for vacating tenants, and public posting on the premises. Criminal and nuisance violations triggering triggering revocation of rental dwelling unit permits are set forth as well as procedures for notification to property owners and tenants and requirements for

eviction. The ordinance provides suspensions, revocations or denial shall be appealed within 5 days to the deputy chief or battalion chief of fire prevention and if upheld further appeal may be made to the code enforcement board. Appeals related to state fire code matters are held in obeyance pending final decision by the local appeals board present to KRS chapter 227.

So moved second. Okay. So this uh rental ordinance we put a lot of uh blood, sweat and tears into this. So we introduced it uh we got feedback. Uh I want to I want to thank uh Deputy Chief Greg Cherry for all the work that he did. He and I went out and met with a group of landlords. Uh the meeting uh ended up going well, but uh there was definitely uh it was a bit tense when we first started off because uh they didn't really I don't think the landlords really thought that we would listen to them. Uh but we did and we u Greg took a lot of notes. We came back, we did a lot of research with other towns, put a lot of effort into this and we came up with this ordinance and when we introduced it two weeks ago, um I actually got messages from two of the landlords uh thanking me and us, you know, for listening to them and making some changes. Um, and on the operational side, I know that Greg and his team are in the process of hiring uh somebody and uh they got under April's leadership, I know they have some some plans on how they're going to divide the city up

uh that'll make, you know, make us more efficient. And uh so I'm just um I mean the proof's in the pudding. I mean, we we've got to implement it and implement it correctly, but I'm just tickled at the the way it's gone so far. And um really at the end of the day, we just want to make rental properties safe

for our people out there. We're not, you know, we're not there's no price controls, rent controls. I mean the relationship between a landlord, a less less and a leie is between them. Um we just want to make sure people have safe places you know to live and I think that you know this says something about the quality of our city and that's you know that's really what we're after. So all right that's my spiel. That's my soap box. Any comments from anybody? No. Okay. I'll ask the city city clerk please call ro. Commissioner Henderson I. Commissioner Smith I. Commissioner Thomas I. Commissioner Wilson I.

Mayor Bray I. Okay. And we have a second uh ordinance to adopt. We read this a couple of weeks ago. It's a midyear budget amendment. Audra as actually asked me today, do you think that there's going to be any really big deep questions about it? Uh, and I said, "I don't think so." So, we'll ask the city clerk to please read it.

A proposed motion that the board of commissioners adopt an ordinance entitled an ordinance amending ordinance number 2025-06-8847 entitled an ordinance adopting the city of Paduka, Kentucky annual operating budget for the fiscal year July 1, 2025 through June 30, 2026 by estimating revenues and resources and appropriating funds for the operation of city government. This ordinance is summarized as follows. This ordinance amends the annual budget for the fiscal year beginning July 1, 2025 and ending June 30th, 2026 as adopted by ordinance number 2025068847 by the following reappropriations. Increase revenue and expenditures for the capital projects fund by $425,337 and $675,337 respectively. Increase expenditures for the radio fund by $211,000. Increase revenue and expenditures for the investment fund by $100,000. Increase revenue and expenditures for the grant fund by $252,950 and $2,950 respectively. Increase revenue and expenditures for the health insurance fund by $500,100. Increase revenue and expenditures for the insurance fund by $88,600.

So moved. Second. Any questions, comments? I'd ask the city clerk to please call roll. Commissioner Henderson, I. Commissioner Smith, I. Commissioner Thomas, I. Commissioner Wilson, I. Mayor Bray, I Okay, we have uh two ordinances to introduce. Um, and so I'll I'll just in invite uh uh Do you want to read it first? Okay, I'll let the city clerk read it and then we'll uh invite Jeff up to tell us all about it.

A proposed motion that the board of commissioners introduce an ordinance entitled an ordinance amending the 911 parcel fee ordinance. This ordinance is summarized as follows. The proposed amendment revises the city's existing 911 parcel fee ordinance in order to clarify applicability, refine property classifications, formalize the appeals process, and update administrative provisions to ensure fairness, consistency, and long-term stability in the funding of the joint city county emergency 911 services. This amendment clarifies fee applicability by shifting the assessment standard from parcels that are occupied to parcels that are occupiable, thereby ensuring that all parcels capable of occupancy are assessed consistently. The amendment expressly includes residential storage structures and government public housing units within the scope of accessible residential units. The amendment refineses property classifications by reclassifying medical facilities as commercial units, ensuring assessments are commensurate with similarly sized commercial properties. The amendment refineses and clarifies the definitions and classifications applicable to the residential, commercial, public use, and mixeduse parcels and more specifically delineates residential storage structures, medical facilities, and governmental public housing units to ensure consistent and accurate application of the ordinance. Further, it provides that mixeduse parcels shall be assessed at the highest applicable rate based on combined square footage. This amendment adopts formal hearing rules and procedures from the Paduka McCracken County 911 parcel fee appeals board and provides a defined right of appeal from a final order of the appeals board to the McCracken County District Court within 30 days. This amendment updates certain administrative provisions by removing the expired firstear residential rental rebate language and clarifying annual parcel fee adjustment shall be rounded to the nearest dollar.

So moved. Second. Jeff. Jeff is chairman of the 911 administrative board and uh so he's been working with 911 uh these appeals and every not necessarily the appeals but but um but the uh not the appeal side but I mean I think the at the end of the day the whole the result of the appeals

the result of it and what we're going while we're doing this is try to get the the appeals down to zero you know so that that's uh all these these changes in the ordinance also have been approved by your county attorney and your your your city attorney. So, uh if there's any questions, I'll try to answer them. Chief Lar's here. Uh if I can't answer them, maybe he can. I don't I don't think you'd want to we'd want to bore you. I'm sure in your packet you you've received uh all the changes. So, yes, sir. I'd just like to say thank you for your service. I know this is not an easy board to be on. very detailed and it is. But thank you. Yeah,

I've enjoyed it and and hats off to to these guys. They've made it easy. Chief Laren and uh Ariana Kitty and the people supporting it have have done a great job. So, they've made my job a lot easier.

Do you have an overview of Sure. of, you know, a couple of the changes uh that would are most prominent? uh the um you know as as Lindsay read and as uh the chairman has stated it's you there's some clarifying language in here that's not really changing we're not adding any new fees uh we're not uh changing any fees uh from the standard of so high overview is that we're clarifying in a couple instances that a public housing unit instead of just 35 40 600 whatever ever number of units doesn't get charged one $35 governmental fee.

And I think that was probably the the biggest complaint coming from the public, which we didn't realize it till we were halfway into it the first year. So that straightened out. So I I think you'll you won't hear a lot of rumbling now.

And um you know the the other thing the board went through and again credit to the board. Uh they've been you know taking this on. I know that uh um you know our dearly departed friend Steve Doolittle uh and I met with uh with this board uh back in August or September late summer then started to talking about that and as as the chairman mentioned uh the county was at the table as well as uh Kate Foster has been representing at the appeals process uh for the county side the county attorney there and and on our representation Miss Blankenship and so have worked at it and one of the things that also came up besides the um the housing the public housing uh units was that uh hospitals uh were classified as a nonprofit. Uh so they got the non one nonprofit rate for a unit of uh that has one of the highest calls to 9 of 911 calls. Uh and so that was uh reclassified. They looked at it. They discussed it. Uh had good dialogue at least in the meetings that I was in about it. uh open and honest and what does that mean and the recommendation that they made came out of it and I fully support it uh is that uh that they should be classified as a commercial based on their square footage uh and then that's only fair I mean if we're talking about a big box store that based on a square footage that gets a lot of calls hospitals getting a lot more typically uh on that for 911 so those are two of the big higher overarching uh we did clarify just a little bit of the language there has been a consumer price index indexing uh language that was in the original ordinance. Uh and uh and we clarified that that is rounded to the next uh whole dollar,

right? Uh which could be up or down um you know based on it. So if it is at 49 cents of the thing, it goes down to the no lowest dollar. If it's at 51, it goes up to the highest. And so that uh for when we send out the billings and stuff, that helps clarify on that. So I think those were the the bigger higher uh higher arching ones on it. uh in relationship to the 911 fee. Uh I think also high level that through the 911 appeals board uh they learned some things having gone through uh one and I'll say one and a half sess because I don't think we're through the second full session of appeals. Are we yet? We finished.

We finished. Okay. So for two. So yeah. So and and to that point we didn't have a lot of appeals. I mean the first first year Lindsay we had between both city and the county less than 50 wasn't it? Uh yeah, it was uh like 25 I think the first year. Was it down to this time? Was down to less than 20 16 or something. Less than 10. Less than 10. Yeah. Yeah.

But uh in that they learned that the hearing rules and some clarifications on that that they uh they brought forward that would would would um define and so there's even less. And so as as chairman said, you know, the goal to get to zero appeals uh you know is an admirable goal. And I think the recommendations that they have made about that uh will continue to help us get there. So overall, staff has listened to our community partners that are filling these roles in advisory uh on the on the boards and uh and our the county attorney and our representation from legal, Miss Blankenship, has put together this recommendation. Any other questions?

Not really. I mean, I I know that our county partners are, you know, uh considering it as well. Uh but the, you know, most of the changes that that you've outlined tonight really affect, uh, you know, folks, uh, it's it's all in one. So, you know, you put a lot of pressure on the mayor, so they'll have to come through. Yeah. Well,

I mean, I've heard some things, you know, from from people about the, you know, the fee and whatnot and and uh but, you know, we've we've really had a successful implementation, you know, of this whole process. And I would also remind everybody that the new system, you know, that we've been working so diligently to put in new towers, the whole thing, you know, uh I don't want to throw a date out there, but uh late spring, early summer, you know, we will be, you know, fully operational. I fully expect that. At at the end of the day, if you need the 911 services, that that $45 fee or $35, whatever it is, I mean, it doesn't matter. So yeah,

you need it, you need it. So thank you so much for being here, Jeff, and thank you for your leadership. Thank you.

Okay. And we have a second ordinance to introduce, which is a telecommunications franchise agreement. And I'll let uh city clerk read it and um and then I guess she and Michelle will cover it. A proposed motion. The board of commissioners introduce an ordinance entitled an ordinance granting a non-exclusive franchise for a term of 10 years for a telecommunication system within the confines of the city of Paduka, Kentucky to Lumos Fiber of Kentucky LLC pursuant to the terms and provisions of chapter 108 telecommunications of the code of ordinances and approving and authorizing the mayor to execute the franchise agreement and all other documents related to same. This ordinance is summarized as follows. This ordinance accepts Lumos Fiber's bid and grants a nonexclusive 10-year telecommunications franchise in accordance with chapter 108 of the code of ordinances authoring authorizing Lumos to construct, operate, and maintain telecommunications facilities within the public rights of way subject to the city's regulatory standards, fees, and oversight requirements.

So moved. Second. Okay, Lindsay.

Yes. So um as you all know we have um a telecommunications ordinance um that establishes the framework for um franchises to come in and provide telecommunications uh fiber and services here in Paduka. um federal uh telecommunication law allows us to require these franchise agreements and um allows us to require uh fair compensation and protect our right of ways um through this method. So, in accordance with our ordinance, we issued a request for bids um in October and Lumos Fiber of Kentucky, you may also know, you may hear it referred to as T-Mobile, um uh provided a response to our request for bids. Um we spent um some time talking with them, going over that information with staff and with legal and we have um uh we recommend that uh the city enter into the non-exclusive uh 10-year telecommunications franchise with them. Their bid has um uh complied with all of our requirements of our ordinance. Um so um with that uh we tonight we have with us Grace Simroll. uh she's the director of market development and George Kemp, he's the director of construction relations with Lumos and they can tell you more about their specific buildout and any questions that you have about um their organization if you have questions about that.

Okay. So, why don't you tell us about the buildout?

Certainly. So, thank you, mayor, commissioners, city staff for letting us come and speak to you tonight. My name is Grace Siml. As city clerk Parish said, I'm the director of market development. Uh just a little bit about Lumos. Um while we might be new to the market, we are not a new company. Uh it was formed when two mom and pop telephone companies uh one based in Virginia, the other based in North Carolina, each over 100 years old, merged together for the purpose of expanding fiber service. Now, they have been building fiber since 2007. So decades of experience building fiber to the home. Why do we care about fiber? Because it is the internet of the future. Um I think a lot of people took it for granted until co 19 happened and suddenly we were all in our homes trying to do work school um all at the same time and that's when you discovered things like for example upload speeds really matter affordability really matters and so building the infrastructure the fiber internet for the future is something that Lumos is really passionate about. Now in the city of Paduca we intend to build out um a significant portion of the city. Uh if you'll reference the franchise application we include highle maps. Now we take a lot of steps that go above and beyond typical telecommunications companies. So um when we come into a market we obtain a franchise agreement but then we drive a lighter car throughout the city to map all of the rights of way all of the infrastructure and the rights of way. And that's what we use to do our engineering. We make sure that we're not relying on outofdate GIS systems. Uh so often you'll discover, wait a second, there's a curb now where it wasn't before or there's a tree. We want to make sure that we have the most current information about the rights of way for us to engineer. I want to be very complimentary to the city staff. Both city clerk parish as well as the city engineers office have been incredibly helpful to us helping us

understand your processes. Um, I I hear a lot why Paduka and I just want to say first, why not Paduka? Number one. Number two, it really is the sweet spot of what Lumos is looking for. The ideal markets for us have this combination of density, lack of fiber in large portions of the community, and a government that is not difficult to do business with. And at in Paduka, we find all three of those things in combination. Now, some other benefits besides the fact that now you're going to get ultra fast speeds that are completely symmetric. When a new provider comes in, there is price competition. Um, marketing always tells me not to to, you know, it's always changing and they always want to be more competitive. But, um, in existing markets today, you can get two gigs symmetric for 70 bucks a month. And that's oftentimes less than what people are paying now in new markets for slower speeds. So you get faster service, lower prices. Let's talk about customer service. It's something we pride ourselves in. It's part of why I was really passionate about joining Lumos Fiber. We take pride in making sure that we have exceptional customer service. We measure ourselves using a net promoter score, MBS score, and ours uh are in the 80s to give you a sense. Now, typical telecommunications providers are happy if they're in the single digits. That again speaks to the level of customer service that we take pride in in the company. Now, just another benefit is that property values go up when people see that there is a fiber provider to the home. Nationally, we see a 12% increase in home prices uh with having that access. So, I'm going to stop for a second, and I know I've been talking for a while. Um I'm sure you have lots of questions. Yeah.

Yes. Commission questions. There's several uh fiber providers in the city right now and it has become all of a sudden I don't know how many we have four, five, do you know? Uh we have two telecommunications franchises. Um we have um one additional interested and then two cable franchises right now. Okay. So that's four fiber or two fiber. You're saying two fiber in right now plus Lumos and one other that's interested as well. Okay. So there's Lumos has an AT&T also run fiber. AT&T has um and Paduka Powers running it. Mhm.

I just the question I've got is just seems like everyone their brothers running fiber now. And it's from a a a view it's really kind of a blight. There's all these wires being strung on the telephone. It's kind of like you see a picture of how it used to be like in 1920 where all these telephone poles are just loaded with these wires. I won't say it's that bad, but there's just a lot of disruption that occurs and the the view I I guess I'm questioning how do you all it's already a competitive market. How do you how can another company come in and make money at it when the pie's getting smaller with all these new and then of course also it's a you know we've got it's just ugly the fiber that's being run with the big black kind of barrels that are hanging from the telephone pole. So, I'm just a little concerned that we've got plenty of options and I don't know other I know you guys are working off a profit motive and I think that's absolutely the way it should be, but I just curious how that works.

Yes, of course. So, it is 100% privately funded. We're not asking for any public funds. Number two, something very special about us. Most of our construction is underground. Um, we have found in plenty of markets that make ready can take a very long time. Poles are frequently overloaded. Um, and underground utilities are just more resilient, right? So, you're not worrying about a squirrel chew. You're not worrying about ice or snowstorms or the random car that hits a utility pole. Yes, it

it will require underground construction, but once it's in the ground, again, this is technology for the future. We're looking at fiber that's been built for 30 years that really doesn't have to have any maintenance done to it. You increase speeds by swapping out the the laser optics on the ends. Um so we're willing to make that kind of investment. We think that again we have a very attractive product for the market.

How do you do it so that it's not it's the least disruptive? There's another vendor that's doing the same thing underground and there's just like cones everywhere, yards torn up. I mean like for a long time. So how do you are you working? How do you do it so it's least disruptive for people's yards getting torn up? If a yard gets torn up, you know, how quickly does it get repaired and all that? Are you doing that all over the city and then you do the install all over the city and tear everything up all at once or do you are you doing in zones? You know what I'm saying? I sure do. I'm sure you've heard this.

I have. Let me invite my colleague uh George Kemp up to to speak to this. We have a strategy around this. I I'd be happy to answer it, but I I mean, come on, George. You You want to answer some questions? No. No. Yeah. Come on.

And it's a really good question that you asked. Um there there are two things that I actually say that Lumos does totally different than any other telecommunications company out there doing fiber. One is communications because first of all we hear a lot of complaints from other telecoms that first of all the residents even didn't even know this fiber company was coming. What are they doing? What's this construction happening in our yard? We went over with your city folks numerous ways that before we even show up on the scene how we communicate with your residents to let them know we're coming and numerous ways that we communicate with the city on a daily basis to let them know where we are and what we're doing. Number two I say is about restoration which is a question that you brought up.

Restoration is one that we pride ourselves on. I hate it when I go into a community and we're we've already come in behind another fiber provider. Uh I'm glad that I don't know who else has been here before us, so I'm not actually slamming anybody, but in most neighborhoods that we go into, we hear the complaint of, "Hey, we've already had a fire provider come through here. Our residents get totally upset because they came through and they trashed the area and they didn't clean it up and now they're asking the city, who's going to pay for all this restoration?" And I'm saying I I really apologize for that even though it wasn't us. Yeah. But we're totally different. And a way I can promise it to you is the fact that we totally get it that we realize if we don't take care of your residents when we're coming through to do construction and clean up afterwards in a timely fashion, they're not going to want our service, especially when you've got some other providers that are in the area. And to also let you know, most of those other providers are cherrypicking. They come through and they say, "That neighborhood right there, that's a new neighborhood. We want to actually go after those guys." and they skip all these other neighborhoods. We don't do that. We're making sure that we provide to all of those homes that actually need this as well. They're not being cherrypicked by other groups. So, is there a reason? Yes. We're going to be going to neighborhoods that nobody else ever wants to go to because we know that they need the fiber infrastructure as well. But the restoration process, I always tell people when I give out my business card, you know, you can have this because the buck always stops with me and if something doesn't get done, you can guarantee I'll take care of it. But I'd rather give you this other card that I actually gave out to some of your city folks today. The card on it is actually one actually has our call center on it. Has the telephone number, email address, all of that. We have that published on the the letter that we give out 90 days before we come to to the residents. We publish it on the door hangers that we put out on the um yard darts that are out there, on the A-frame boards that are available. All of that information is continually out there for residents and for you all to be able to call or email us and let us know you have a question or a concern. It goes into a ticketing system which is

required by us and I think it's like 98 99% of our requests are actually responded to within a 24-hour period. Usually it's a lot quicker than that, but within 24 hours we got to respond to it and then in a timely manner we've got to actually get it taken care of. And we make sure that it's taken care of as we go. We don't wait until the whole entire city is done. We also highly recommend this is probably not good for a construction person to do this, but we highly recommend that that your your city that when we are actually closing out a permit, let's actually go and take a look and make sure that it's done to the the liking of what you guys want. If not, we want to take care of it. We also have a bond um that we are are required to actually establish. And I tell everyone, we don't want you to actually have to take from that bond. My whole goal is we want to respond. We want to take care of your folks and you'd be like, "Well, hey, that was awesome. We never even had to touch that bond because they were here and they took care of it in a timely fashion." So, just let you know, communications and restoration are the two top things that we know we got to take care of because we want your residents to be excited about us. But, it is construction, so there will be cones, there will be dirt, but it will be taken care of at the end of the Well, it will be taken I was going to say at the end of the day, but um at the end of the the construction in that little neighborhood, it'll be taken care of. Okay.

Thank you. So, couple questions. You mentioned uh permitting when you when you get permitted. So, you don't you're not suggesting you go through the city and and before you get out of a certain neighborhood, you you ask us to come in and and make sure everything's okay. I mean, what are you really saying there? So, what I'm saying is that if when we do permits and we go through a city and we take care of the areas, if there's anything you guys have heard of, if there's any complaints with residents, anything that's been filed, we want to make sure that we're taking care of those and we can actually respond and we can share with you guys um all of our statistics on how your residents are are um how we're responding to your residents and the city complaints. And if you've heard, hey, wait a second. Um, this area you said you've completed, we've got these two people right here who are still complaining. We need to make sure that we take care of those. You guys need to hang those over our head. And and I'm willing to say that because we want to take care of your folks. We do know that there are those folks that you guys know in your neighborhoods who complain about everything and you can never make them happy. Totally understand that and hopefully you'll work with us on those. But um for the majority um you know they're they're out there and they have real complaints and we we want to make sure we take care of every one of those for you.

And we were hoping maybe you could put in some new sidewalks for us. Yeah. So now that's one thing that we do. We'll do videos and photos ahead of time because we know some of the guys who actually say the crack that was there three years ago you just you you actually made. So yeah. So I got a couple more questions. So, uh, Commissioner Smith brought up the the issue about poles, and you you said is 100% of your lines going in the ground. It won't be 100, but, um, 80% underground, 20% are hard to difficult to cross areas. So, things like railroads and highways, those sorts of areas will if there's particularly hard rock, we might need to use aerial, but we are 80% plus underground.

Okay. and and she says 80% but um I have yet to see it. Yeah, it's it's it's really really small percentage that goes aerial. It'll be like I I I drove by one area today where to be able to get across um a certain area. We're going to have to do a couple poles just jump over, get across it, and come back down. But yeah, it's rare. So, will you you be on site? I mean, you I'm not. You're in North Carolina? Yeah, I'm in North Carolina. However, we have employees who will be on site every day. Yes. So, there is someone local that we can strangle.

Yes. And that is different than your other telecoms, too, because if you guys know, most of your other telecoms out there when they build out a fiber network, they actually tell a prime contractor, you build it out, I don't want to know anything about it when you get done. And then when you guys are trying to actually get him to do something, he doesn't care cuz he's gone in a few days. And then you try to call the number that you have for that telecom and it's like okay you got to dial or you got to push this button number four first to reach this department and the other one and you never get to anyone and you get frustrated. We've got a construction manager who will be here on site and two or three um construction engineers who will be here as well. So you have our folks yes little fiber employees in addition to the prime contractor who's here.

Okay. So you will have a prime contractor you'll have managers. We'll have a couple contractors. Okay. Two different companies. So, you'll use a couple of contractors in Paduca. Correct. Okay. And they'll be working in separate parts of the city. Is that we our expectation is that they'll start at the same hub and and then branch out and go in opposite directions. Yeah. All right. My final question really has to do with, you know, you talked about going into areas that other companies weren't going into. I mean, so what percentage of the city are you are you going to cover? I don't have the drawing or map, but do you

I I provided the map. I I have to admit I don't know what the percentage represents. I can get that answer for you. It's a significant portion of the city. Now, this is what So, let me let me clarify. There's what we internally call phase one and what we called phase one with the city. So I I think uh Commissioner Smith you asked about our strategy. We like to we like to build and it's all in the franchise application according to what we call fiber distribution hubs FDHs. These are groupings of homes um about 500 homes at a time. We might have a few going at the same time but that's the strategy. We're not tearing up the whole city. We really want to work with you all to make sure that we're not disrupting it at that kind of scale. Um, so that's uh the fiber distribution hubs. Um, goodness, now I've lost my train of thought. I know there was a point to this

back to the city. And so uh I know that phase one our internal parlance is again that the map that we gave you. I would not be surprised if later we decide strategically to build out the rest of the city. We've done that in other markets where we begin with the areas that don't have fiber and then we turn around and we fill in the rest of the city. So, um, our phase one will take we estimate three years to do. Um, again, building out those portions, but we will Yeah, I'm I'm most interested or you know, as as you build out, I'm interested in some of our perhaps our underserved

parts of the city. And I don't know what the map looks like uh you know in terms of are you okay with me sharing kind of general information? So um basically they're they're kind of phase one looks like you know where H Heartland Church is at and then moving down toward um the Grove area and then out toward the mall and toward Lone Oak. So that's kind of the the division of their first phase. So, um, that's different than what we've kind of seen from other providers. So, that kind of means that the you mentioned the underserved.

So, that kind of means is it's going to it's going to be a minute if underserved are served. Is that right? Would that be fair to say? I don't know. Where are the underserved? I mean, I I I would love to know that and to be able to take it to our folks. Well, you're I mean, you're starting in uh a more fluent area of the city. There's no question about that. So, um, and I'm what I haven't really been able to, you know, be updated on is where some of the other companies have actually laid cable and and so that would be something, you know, a takeaway for

other more recent companies have been more focused on um the downtown area, Midtown area um and and and then in going into Southside with I think a larger picture, longer scale. So, this kind of is a little bit different than the other providers that we've had in so far. And I would think if we have this again, that's something that we need to look at to see exactly where they begin to start out and where they end up. We could probably pull the maps out of their applications. Yeah. And I I think we should just at some point get an update on where everybody is. You know, we've agree had people coming and and I'm I'm still a little curious about,

you know, the Paduka market. You know, why Paduka? You know, you said why not? But really, you know, the burning question for me is is I mean, and we do have a lot of growth going on. So, you know, that's a good thing. Um, but um, you know, I'm just, you know, it's interesting, you know, competition. Uh, I'm I believe in competition, but but we got a lot of it right here. So, um, hopefully that'll be good for people who need faster service at cheaper prices. Absolutely. But we do need to we do need to think about some of the areas of the city. We we need to gauge where people are going and where they are and and where some of our fiber has been laid and

and what services are available in certain parts of the city. So I think that's fair. I think that's important. I agree. Are you open to input on phase two? Absolutely. If if you guys will shoot No, really. If we can see the areas where you guys are really concerned about, I'll take those back today. I mean, as soon as you guys give us the the information where you'd really like for us to consider, I'll take it back for consideration now. Well, let us give us a little time to put all that together, but we absolutely communicate with you. Thank you. Of course. You said you'd be open to some uh thoughts for phase two. Is it too late to receive some thoughts even for phase one?

Possibly. we we could possibly expand phase one. Now, let me make two comments if you all will allow me. The first is that um one other thing that sets apart from other providers is that we made strategic decisions about where we start based on where we can what okay

what we call get the light. So, we don't want to have to build out something and have people wait years and years to get service. We strategically made decisions about building where we can connect to the greater worldwide web and provide service to residents quickly. So our our own goal is that if we build in the rights of way in front of your house within 60 days you should be able to sign up for service. You're not waiting three or four years for that. So that does influence our decision number one. Um, and then I suppose the other thing is to just I wanted to clarify this T fi T-Mobile fiber piece because I think sometimes people get confused. We are still Lumos Fiber. Lumos Fiber is the one doing the construction. Lumos Fiber is the one who owns the infrastructure. T-Mobile is in a joint venture with Lumos Fiber, but it's still very much our infrastructure. Um and um and so there might be opportunities to look at cellular opportunities thanks to this joint venture that we could also discuss.

Okay. Well, I just think uh I I think the takeaway for me is we've had several, you know, over the last couple years, several companies in here want to lay starting to lay fiber and uh and we just need to get an update where everybody is and kind of what what's going on, you know, at some point in time, you know, and then we need to think about, you know, certain parts of the city, you know, where we need service. So, okay. Thank you very much. Well done. Thank you so much. Thank you. You uh took the hot hot seat very well. Commissioner Smith's our plant. He's our tree, not a plant, right?

I do the wet work. His role. Okay. Uh, city manager, any comments? Uh, mayor, commission, uh, the one comment I have tonight is do want to recognize, and we've, uh, announced this publicly earlier today, but, uh, uh, Taylor Moring, our assistant director, uh, for our recreation, uh, was recognized for his work, uh, with the Tennessee River Line and received the extra mile award. Uh so a great representation uh for our community and hard work that that he's put in uh on uh on that committee and that was recognized through the Tennessee River Line. So we want to say congratulations to him.

Yes. Congre congratulations to Taylor. Uh commissioners, I just have one comment. You know, I've been with the u through my job today. I've been working with all the West Kentucky educational institutions and you know they're gearing up for the new industry that's coming here because it's a really it's it's a big initiative because everyone looks everyone needs labor and we really need trained labor and every one of our institutions and that's uh UK engineering Murray State WKCTC both uh the city schools and county schools are working together to create certifications for for workers, you know, people that may not want to go to college, but they also have a good way to earn a living. And the schools are really working hard on that. And I just think we can be very proud of our educational system that we have in this community because I think we're going to see a lot of great things come out of it.

Great comment. Thank you. I I just wanted to emphasize again that we have uh we're well on our way to providing um safe place for 8th of August preparation and not just the 8th of August, but we're well on our way to making sure that that area of town is safe all the time. So

yeah, we've uh we've had an init an initial meeting and there will be more meetings to come and that's very important to this commission uh you know that that 150year-old celebration or however old it is uh is safe you know for the entire community. So, okie dokie. Um, we do have an executive session tonight. Uh, we do not intend to take any action coming out and I would invite the city clerk to please read the motion.

A proposed motion of the board of commissioners to go into close session for discussion of matters pertaining to the following topics. Future sale or acquisition of a specific parcel of real estate as permitted by KRS61.810 subsection 1B. Proposed or pending litigation is permitted by KRS61.810 subsection 1C and a specific proposal by a business entity where public discussion of the subject matter would jeopardize the location, retention, expansion or upgrading of a business entity as permitted by KRS61.810 subsection 1G. So move second. Call roll. Commissioner Henderson I. Commissioner Smith I. Commissioner Thomas I. Commissioner Wilson I. Mayor Bray

I. Thank you all. Mhm.