Planning Commission - Regular Meeting
The Municipal Planning Board approved several consent agenda items, including rezoning for Lorna Doone Park and a conditional use permit for an OUC substation expansion. The board also approved a conditional use permit for Audubon Park Covenant Church, allowing accessory uses like open storage and a caretaker’s cottage, despite neighborhood concerns about code compliance and industrial use in a residential area. Additionally, an AdventHealth request to add recently acquired properties to its Development of Regional Impact and Planned Development, and to allow a pedestrian bridge over Dade Avenue, was approved.
About this meeting
- Government Body
- Planning Commission
- Meeting Type
- Planning Commission
- Location
- Orlando, FL
- Meeting Date
- April 21, 2026
Transcript
121 sections
to the City Council comprised of citizen members who voluntarily and without compensation devote their time and talents to a variety of zoning and land development issues in the community. All MPB recommendations are subject to final action by City Council. We anticipate the minutes of today's meeting will be presented to the City Council meeting on May 11, 2026 for approval of recommended actions. Any person desiring to appeal a recommended action of the Board should observe the notice regarding appeals below. Caution. Untimely filing by an appellant shall result in an automatic denial of the appeal. go over the general rules of order for the meeting the board is pleased to hear all non-repetitive public comment large groups are requested to name a spokesperson when you are recognized state your name and address direct all your remarks to the board and limit your comments to three minutes per item or is set during the meeting robert's rules of order govern the conduct of the meeting the city of orlando encourages courteous civil discourse When acting on items identified with the letters GMP, the board is acting in its capacity as a local planning agency pursuant to and in accordance with section 163.3174 of Florida statutes. Items identified with one star are legislative matters or policy setting actions and are to be conducted according to standard public hearing procedures. Appeals of one star items must be filed with the city clerk's office before 5 p.m. Monday, April 27, 2026 to schedule an appearance before city council in accordance with chapter two, article 34 of the city code. Items identified with two stars are quasi-judicial matters or implementing actions are to be conducted subject to Florida Supreme Court ruling and Board of County Commissioners of Brevard County v. Snyder. The Board's decision must be supported by competent substantial evidence. Persons dissatisfied with a Board recommendation in such matters may be entitled to a de novo or new hearing before an independent hearing officer in accordance with the provisions of Chapter 2, Article 32 of the City Code. A request for a new hearing or an appeal with respect to a two-star item must be filed with the Municipal Planning Board Recording Secretary by 5 p.m. Tuesday, April 28, 2026. There is a $500 non-refundable fee for this appeal. The MBP Recording Secretary may be reached at betsy.brown at orlando.gov or 407-246-3365. Any person who desires to appeal any decision at this meeting will need a record of the proceedings and for this purpose may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made that includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is made. Thank you for participating in your government and making Orlando truly the city of beautiful. Now at this time, Madam Secretary, do we have a quorum?
Yes.
All right. We'll call this meeting to order at 9.04 a.m. And please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.
All right, we'll open up the meeting with a consideration of the March 17, 2026 minutes and entertain a motion for waiving the reading if we do have an approval.
I make a motion to waive the reading of the minutes. We have a motion from Board Member Barrett. Do we have a second?
I'll second.
All right. We have a second. All those in favor, please unmute your mic and say aye. Aye. Thank you. If MPB is not adjourned for the day or voted to take an earlier lunch break, the board will complete the agenda item being reviewed as of 1230 p.m. and will pause for a half-hour lunch break at the conclusion of that item. In accordance with Section 286.0114 of the Florida Statutes, any member of the public can be heard on any matter before the board today. If the item is listed on the consent agenda, you may ask that the item be pulled and placed on the regular agenda. You may then speak on that item when discussed on the regular agenda. You may complete a speaker request form in advance of the meeting on orlando.gov forward slash public comments or fill out a speaker request form and hand it to the board secretary. Please note participation must be in person. Virtual participation will no longer be accepted. All right. With that, we will move over to the consent agenda reading.
thank you mr chair just to note in advance of reading the consent agenda item number three audubon park covenant church as well as item number five for advent health theory have been placed on the regular agenda and i'll go over the consent agenda first is lauren doom park the applicant owner is city of orlando the location is 1830 west central boulevard district five project planners Deidre Ogba, Raquel Lozano this is a rezoning request from holding to public and that's each district to p district with a conditional use permit filed under number 2026 number 1001 this is a conditional use permit to construct a 6 000 square foot City Families Parks and Recreation Department Office with the public assembly spaces in a detached 1,000 square foot maintenance garage. The recommended action is approval of request subject to conditions in the staff report. Item number two is the OUC substation expansion and gasification activated charcoal implementation. Applicant is Rebecca Hammack with Pep Dotson. Owner is OUCC of Orlando. Location is 1020 Highland Avenue in District 3. Project Planner Jim Burnett. This is filed under Cp. 20,026, number 10,002. It's a conditional use permits amendment to expand the Oec substation, including the installation of the granulated activated carbon vessels. Recommend action is approval of the request subject conditions and staff report. I'm on to item number four. This is distillery and tasting room. Applicant is Michelle Patel of Goldcrest District. Owner is KMB Partnership LLC. Location is 503 West Central Boulevard in District 5. Project planner is Laura Ying. This is filed under conditional use permit number 2026-1004. It's a conditional use permit for distillery within 1,000 feet of a church. Recommend action is approval request, subject conditions of the staff report. Number six, Savannah Park Drive Senior Housing. Applicant is William Hawkins-Smith of Thomas and Hutton Engineering. Owner is Ellen Senior Housing LLC. Location is 10298 Savannah Park Drive. District one, project planners, Sean and Audrey. This is filed under MPL 2026, number 10,000. The recommended action is deferral. And then number seven, industrial bakery and storage warehouse applicant is Jordan Draper of Kimley Horn Associates. owner 6650 Narcoossee, LLC, District 1, project planners Jim Burnett. This is filed under master plan number 2026-1007. It's a master plan for 128,000 square foot of light manufacturing and processing and 120,000 square foot of storage warehouse. Recommend the actions approval the request subject to the conditions staff report. Number eight is Alexander Place to George Stewart Place street name change. Applicant owner is City of Orlando. Location is Alexander Place between Chatham Avenue and North Huey between West Amelia Street and West Livingston Street. District is in District 5. Project planner is Laura Ying. This is filed in a street name change number 2026. 10,000, and this is a street name change from Alexander Place to George Stewart Place. Recommended action is approval request subject to conditions in the staff report. Number nine is Fern Grove phase two PD amendment. Applicant is Amy Shields of GAI Consultants. The owner is BDG Fern Grove LP. Location is 3750 WD Drudge Drive in District 5. Project planner, Michelle Gibbs. This is filed under rezoning request 2026-1001. This is a planned development amendment for the previously approved 258-unit senior affordable housing project by reducing the total number of approved parking spaces from 335 to 260. Recommended action is approval of the request subject to conditions in the staff report. And that concludes the consent agenda.
All right. Thank you, Mr. Burton. For the board, before we get started, do we have any conflicts to declare? All right. Seeing none, we can entertain a motion on consent agenda items 1, 2, 4, and 6 through 9.
I make a motion to accept the consent agenda 1, 2, 4, and 6 through 9.
All right. Motion from Board Member Barrett. Do we have a second?
Second.
We have a second from Ms. Daly. All those in favor, please unmute your mic and say aye. Aye. Any opposed? And the consent agenda passes unanimously. Thank you. And with that, we will move to our first item on the regular agenda, which is item number three.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. This is item number three. This is the Audubon Park Covenant Church accessory uses. The applicant is Heather Isaacs of Dick's Height for Pastor Sarah Robinson. And the owner is Audubon Park Covenant Church of Orlando, Florida. Location is 3219 Chelsea Street. The district is district three, the project planners, Jim Burnett. This is filed on a conditional use permit number 2026-1003. It's a conditional use permit for accessory uses, including open storage of landscaping materials and a future caretaker's cottage at an existing church. And Mr. Burnett will give a presentation to go over the details.
So simple. For the record, Jim Burnett, Planner 3 with the City of Orlando. This is Audubon Park Covenant Church Accessory Uses Conditional Use Permit, CUP 2026-1003. Properties located at 3219 Chelsea Street. It's an interior lot bounded by Chelsea on the south, Lark Place on the west and north, and Cardinal Road on the east in the Audubon Park neighborhood zoned R1A and District 3. Here's an aerial photo of the property. As I stated, it's bounded by streets on all sides. Segal Family Homes to the north, east, south, west. Here's some site photos. We have the church as viewed from Chelsea Street. We have the rear parking lot. It's off of Chelsea and Cardinal. We have what you see off of Lark is where the fleet farming operations have been occurring. And then the upper right corner is on the corner of Lark and Cardinal. It's where the entrance to the church, the entrance to the parking lot, and where fleet farming has erected a structure for material storage. So we have a CUP to allow limited open storage uses, landscaping materials, future caretaker's cottage, and a possible solar array in the parking lot as accessory uses to the existing church. Properties was annexed in 53. The church was built in 1954 before any homes were built there. Church became the base for fleet farming in 2015. Property has been cited by code enforcement in 2022 and again in 2025, primarily for work done without permits. Here's your site survey plan here again with your The church in the main here, you have a shed that was put up without permits, but subsequently got an after-the-fact permit to be there. The church has a little garden in the back and a little farmland. And then here's where the, conceptually where the caretaker's cottage could go. It could go anywhere in here. And then we have the material storage area. area, a fenced compound at the corner of Lark and Cardinal. Here's the church parking lot. Now I got a few slides and I'm not going to try and read these because they're very wordy. So just note the property is owned R1A. It allows a small neighborhood size PBUs, public benefit uses with a maximum 200 seats. Uh, From the proposal, a landscape business can operate via a home occupational license, but trucks and material piles cannot be kept on premises per code. Material storage and other accessory uses such as fleet farming can be allowed as part of a CUP tied to the actual church. So the conditional use permit, we have six criteria, purpose and intent of the use and all the requirements of the code. Growth management plan is the CUP consistent with the growth management plan. The use of district requirements, the proposal must conform to the applicable R1A zoning district requirements and to the requirements of Chapter 58, that's our zoning regulations. Performance and design regulations proposal must conform to all applicable performance and design regulations of LDC chapters 58 60 61 and 62 Public facilities are there? on or off-site public facilities available to serve the use and then other matters any other lawful matter that the MBB deems appropriate and relevant to the specific proposal and There are some additional criteria that apply to assembly public benefit uses and accessory uses therein. It lists architecture, lighting, parking areas, architecture. If they're doing add-ons, then we want the buildings to look like the main church, but that's not applicable. They're not doing any building add-ons per se. Uh, loud lighting of outdoor areas, uh, must be cognizant of the fact that they're in a residential zoning district. So, uh, you need, um, your slights need to be down low shielded. So you don't have glare onto adjacent properties. Parking areas must be designed and located to minimize conflict with pedestrians and bike pathways. So additional criteria. A lot of these don't really apply. The only one is the desired development patterns. Assembly facilities located in residential zoning districts should function as compact sites and all desired activities and required facilities to include parking facilities, buildings, and accessory uses should be located on one development site consisting entirely of contiguous parcels of land. These other criteria, if you have non-contiguous parcels, unfortunately the church does not have any non-contiguous parcels. If they're going to acquire additional land, they'll have to amend the CUP. And vehicular access, if they have a larger size public benefit use, then they are required to be on a collector or four-lane road. So the property has RESLO, future land use, and R1A zoning. There are several, in the staff report, we've noted that there are several policies that support the conditionally used permit request. Future land use policy, LU 1.7.1, 1.7, excuse me, 1.7.3. um another future land use policy 1.9.1 and conservation policies c point two point one point one c two one point six so they've got gmp support for the for the cup And then in conformance with the land development code, they're trying to expand the church's principal use operations to include support of fleet farming and other potential accessory uses such as parking lot, solar array, and a caretaker slash rectory structure, which is akin to an accessory dwelling unit. We do provide guidance for accessory service uses in our code. Um, as long as the church remains the principal use, the proposed CUP request, uh, to allow certain accessory uses will be consistent with the land development code, uh, and pertinent portions of chapters 58, 60, 61 and 62. Um, the fenced area that was established at the corner of Lark and Cardinal, um, That will, that contains the fleet farming operations. Uh, it currently has a six foot tall, uh, wooden fence. It will need to be relocated as a condition of the CUP and it'll be need to be moved to be, to provide at least a 15 foot, uh, street side setback from Lark and from Cardinal. Um, The fence as it exists now, it wasn't permitted. They've applied for an after-the-fact permit. That fence crosses the lot line, is actually into the street right-of-way. Like I said, it'll have to be relocated to be at least 15 feet from Lark and 15 feet from Cardinal. Okay. pointed out that the church is uniquely situated with total street frontages. The applicant has asked that we consider the Chelsea to be the front and that Lark and Cardinal be considered street sides, not rear yards. That's the big thing there. So with Lark and Cardinal treated as street sides, subject to street side setbacks for any accessory uses. Let's see here. They are proposing a caretaker's cottage. Like I said, that's akin to an accessory dwelling unit. The parameters for it and the future solar array to be located in the church parking lot will need further administrative review when they come forward. We're requiring buffering to be on the outside of that material storage area. So what we're proposing Recommended is that we do a planning official determination that covers review of the landscaping, review of the caretaker's cottage, and review of the future solar array. Solid waste, any trash. We didn't see any trash receptacles. They'll need to get with solid waste to find out if that's being accounted for, if it's residential pickup, if dumpsters are required. And then they may need to provide a sidewalk along Lark Place. There's currently not a sidewalk on the south side of Lark. So when they come in for permits, we'll check into that. Material storage, everything must be stored inside the fenced area on the site where the required 15 foot street side setbacks and buffers. So fleet farming sometimes uses pickup trucks and trailers on the property. And the property is a church where there are other types of commuter type vehicles on premises. So sometimes it's hard to tell pickup trucks that someone just drives and brings to church versus pickup trucks that are used for the fleet farming. They can be kept on the property, but They need to be parked on a durable all-weather surface with appropriate parking lot screening of 7.5 wide landscaping with a hedge. And that'll be checked as part of that final, that planning official determination as well. There was neighborhood feedback because this item originally was set to go to the Board of Zoning Adjustment as a variance, as a use variance. And it was determined that it'd be better to take it as a conditional use permit as opposed to a variance. So we did receive comments about the variance. And there are some folks who are opposed to what's being requested. I think you've got all the emails and stuff that was sent in by the people who were opposed, as well as petitions and emails in support of. Last thing, RELUPA. Religious land use and institutional persons act. Municipality cannot impose a substantial burden on religious exercise unless it furthers a compelling government interest. Religious exercise is broadly defined. Church urban agriculture can be qualified as a potential land use if it is tied to teachings of community outreach. And this limits local governments to treat our religious use as equal to similar secular uses. So our conclusion is that the fleet farming can operate as an accessory church-sponsored activity while ensuring compatibility with the surrounding residential neighborhood. Request allows the church to continue functioning as a community anchor and as an area for nonprofit-led sustainability initiatives while addressing prior code compliance issues through clearly defined conditions in the CUP report. Proposal remains consistent with the city's growth management plan, supports neighborhood serving civic uses, advances environmental stewardship objectives, all while maintaining the church as the principal use on the site. Without the church, you can't have accessory uses. We're supporting the condition use permit amendment, or really condition use permit, subject to the conditions outlined in this report. Any questions so far?
There are no questions from the board at this time. We can ask that the applicants speak if they'd like.
Good morning, Mr. Chair, members of the board. My name is Heather Isaacs with Dick's Height Plus Partners. The address is 150 West Jessup Avenue in Longwood, Florida, 32750. We agree with staff's recommendation on all of the conditions of approval. We think that this is a great compromise to continue the sustainability initiatives of the church. I would like to reserve the remainder of my time to come back and speak after the public has had an opportunity to speak so that I can address any questions the board may have after that.
All right. Thank you. And with that, we'll open up public hearing and ask that the first speaker approach the podium.
The first speaker is Julianne Robinson, followed by Sarah Robinson and then Kimberly Slinger, please.
As a reminder, as you approach, please start off with your name and address for the record.
Good morning. I'm Julianne Robinson. I live at 1304 Tanager Drive, Orlando 32803. Thank you for allowing me to address you this morning. I am a member and a volunteer at Audubon Park Covenant Church. I am currently serving as treasurer and in full disclosure, I am the mother of Pastor Sarah Robinson. I don't want anyone to think I'm hiding that. My husband Dennis and I are owners of the home where we live on Tanager Drive, which is just around the corner from the church. And I do think it's important to remember that Audubon Park Church predates the neighborhood and predates city code. We go way back. There is no homeowners association. And as a result, individual homes are kept to everyone's own standards. No HOA. People get a little loosey-goosey sometimes. There does seem to be broad agreement that Ideas for Us, which is the parent organization of Fleet Farms, has a valued mission, but I do feel like there's a little bit of nimbyism going on. Yes, this is great, but not in my backyard. They are not a landscape business. I think this is really important. They're not a for-profit business that are going out landscaping. They are a not-for-profit educational organization. They're noted by other commentators as having a deficit, which is stated on their most recent 990 filing for 2024 as $2,435. That seems to me to be somewhat negligible. Indeed, they're mostly a volunteer-driven organization with a lot of youth, students. This is not a group of people who are unknown for being excessively tidy. The fencing material, which someone stated is unsightly and a safety hazard, is the same type of fencing material as is generally used in the neighborhood, indeed across the street at the corner of Chelsea and Cardinal has the same fencing. I believe that Ideas for Us broadly represents both the values of our church and the city of Orlando's goals of sustainability, self-sufficiency, and the production of local food. Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Hi, Sarah Robinson. I live at 1304 Tanager Drive, and I'm the pastor at Audubon Park Church, and I will be speaking on the church's behalf as well. When I was called to Audubon Park Church in 2013, I came with a vision of church and community partnership and growth through sustainability and creation care. The church called me here because they saw the resonance and deep connection with my vision and the spirit of the community. The church has always been at the center of Audubon Park and is the default neighborhood gathering space. So what followed was a mutual embracing of an exciting new vision. Truly a sustainability movement was beginning here. East End Market opened, Compost Orlando, a zero carbon composting initiative utilized our central location. Fleet farming began and the church was excited to host the largest plot. We also became the home of Orlando Permaculture, which is another sustainability and food and education driven organization. When the church developed a new mission and vision in 2017, creation care and sustainability became foundational to the particular expression of God's church there in the neighborhood. The vision was to become a model for other churches and places of faith. And that is what we've accomplished. Our work together, particularly and specifically our partnership with Ideas for Us, has garnered national and international attention, sparking people and organizations and churches all around the world to join in the movement. The work has brought people like sustainability expert Robin Greenfield and the international Christian conservation organization Arasha It has transformed our community and many other lives for the better that is educated, fed, and inspired. We are a group of neighbors, community members, and mostly volunteers coming together in love, doing our best to make our community and world a better place. This does not mean the work has always been perfect. It is a work in progress. Aren't we all? We are happy and excited to work with the city and the community to make sure we are able to continue this vital ministry. Thank you so much for your consideration of the cup at this time. Blessings.
Thank you. Kimberly Slinger is the next speaker, followed by Stacey Bursick, then Lisa Rae. Good morning.
I'm Kimberly Slinger. I own a home in the heart of Audubon Park Garden District. I'm here today to speak in support of fleet farming and the positive impact it has on our community.
If you don't mind, could you state your specific address for the record?
3618 Finch Street in the Byrd Streets.
Thank you so much.
Winner of the prestigious Great American Main Street Award APGD represents creativity, small business, and sustainability. As a realtor working in APGD, I can tell you that young families looking to move to our community are not only looking for great schools, walkability, but they're also looking for community, like with their neighbors. Audubon Park Covenant Church is a longstanding community hub in APGD. Sharing space with Fleet Farming affords residents education on growing their own food, sustainability, Florida native plants, and most importantly, community connection through sharing and caring for each other. I see absolutely zero problem with supporting fleet farming to operate successfully and the church to expand and continue to serve the neighborhood well. I encourage you to support fleet farming and other city of Orlando districts. We are Audubon Park Garden District. We support clean, caring communities that contribute to making Orlando a great place to live and work. Thank you.
Thank you.
Good morning. My name is Stacey Bursick. I live at 3920 Wren Lane, a couple of blocks from the church. I'm a relatively new resident of the neighborhood. And you want to know what brought me to live there? Things like Audubon Park Covenant Church and the fleet farming operation and ideas for us. I used to rent in Maitland and I would see all these events that interested me to teach me about sustainability and gardening and lots of ideals that I had for when I was a future homeowner. And so I would go to these events and it made me say, this is the neighborhood I want to buy a house in. I want to pay taxes in the city of Orlando so I can live close to this and be a part of this. And truly, I meet people out of town that have seen things on the internet about fleet farming and how wonderful it is. They're like, oh, you live in Orlando. Do you know about that organization that's in that neighborhood and gardens in people's front yards and teaches them how to grow their own vegetables? And it makes me feel so proud that I'm a part of that. And I can say, yes, I volunteer with them. And their home base is in my neighborhood. And I get to interact with them. I mean, and really, after that presentation, how much better could this fit the land use policies presented and the goals for the city of Orlando? And that's it. Thank you.
Thank you.
Lisa Ray, followed by Linda Valenti.
Oh, boy.
This is scary.
Thank you, guys, for volunteering. You're making our city better. Thank you. I am a lifelong... My name is Lisa Ray. I live at 1608 Margate Avenue in Audubon Park. And I am a lifelong resident of the city of Orlando. And I've lived in Audubon Park for, goodness, 32 years. When I first moved to Audubon Park, you kind of knew that the church was there. You saw the building, you drive by, cutting through to get over to Bennett or whatever. But now, in just the last few years, it's turned into a vibrant hub of our community. There are all kinds of, as Sarah mentioned, Orlando permaculture and other groups that are eco-driven and sustainability-driven that meet in the church. And it is, like I said, vibrant, active, and always innovative. And it's been very exciting. A few years ago, Audubon Park was designated as the city's first eco-district. And we were very proud of that designation because we worked very hard for that. Fleet Farming, like Sarah mentioned, is not a landscaping company. They grow gardens in people's front yards throughout Audubon Park. And those gardens are serviced by volunteers on bicycles. So it's a win-win. You have young people that are volunteering, learning how to give their time for others. The front yards are being used for gardens. And the food is being donated to schools in areas that don't have fresh produce or access to produce. They live in food deserts. So it's a win, win, win. And even for our community to have that life and exuberance, innovation, creativity around us is very exciting. So I'm here in support of Audubon Park. And thank you for your time.
Thank you.
Good morning. Good morning, everyone. It's an honor to be here before you to state my case. My name is Linda Valenti. I now live at 518 North Lakemont Avenue, Winter Park. But I was a... a resident of Audubon Park neighborhood for about eight years. I rented there until my landlord decided to move back in. But anyway, I still go to Audubon Park Church. It's been now eight years since I've moved, but I'm still on the church council. And The things I have seen Audubon Park Church do before I started, I drive back and forth when I lived in Audubon Park and I'd look at the church, look at the church, but something changed about the church. And I didn't know it till I attended it. It had a new pastor. So I started going and I started realizing this is not just a church. This is an example for me. for the people that go there. And yes, I'd like to reiterate, Ideas for Us is not a landscaping business. There's no business about it. It's only the business of the kingdom. They're a nonprofit organization. Yeah, the only business they do is kingdom business on here, Earth. But I'd like to read this. Audubon Park Church is the heart of Audubon Park neighborhood. It has served as a default gathering place and community center since the beginning of the neighborhood. The church building even predates the construction of the houses of the neighborhood. By the way, it used to be Patrick Air Force Base. that was quite in service to not only the people who lived there that used to serve in the services, but it's the armed services serving the United States of America. So it was always a place of service. And the people serving the United States of America, their families needed a place to worship because they were serving. So that's how that dates. The work that Ideas for Us do in environmental and gardening education and practice are a crucial part of fulfilling the church's vision of sustainability and creation care that was officially adopted in 2016, but has long been the culture of the neighborhood. I'm asking you, please, to approve this CUP so we can continue our mission in the neighborhood which stretches out into the world. Thank you for your time. Thank you.
The next speaker is Amy Beard, followed by John Stevens and Alan Rodriguez.
Good morning, I'm Dr. Amy Beard. I'm resident at 2728 Eastern Parkway in Winter Park, Florida. Former resident for seven years at 1216 Lark Place, directly adjacent to the property that is being discussed today. And I've lived there for seven of the 10 years that Fleet Farming was in operation. and moved in August of 2025. And my family really loved this neighborhood and our neighbors on our direct street on Lark Place. And we left specifically because of the property and its activity and the city's failure to act. And this is what's at stake for the other families that live directly adjacent to the property. You've heard from some today that live farther from the property and aren't as impacted by exactly what's going on on the property. So I'm asking the board to deny or at least consider more testimony from the immediate neighbors and the impacts. In 2022, I watched an unpermitted shed, another shed that was unpermitted, collapse, fly 100 feet, damaging a neighbor's car, and land at a neighbor's doorstep. The church denied all responsibility, did not make an insurance claim, did not make any reparations to the neighbor, and said that as soon as the shed left their property, it wasn't their responsibility. and they continued to operate. Then in 2025, it's not just fleet farming and its farmlets, it's entire ideas for us headquarters that has been moved onto the facility. And since August of 2025, there's been an unpermitted fence installed at six feet. There's been an unpermitted shed that somehow the city later permitted Even though it was in a variance process, they were given a permit despite the variance. and they also have left open compost, open mulch piles, implements, tools. The commercial vehicles that were mentioned, it's not trucks and trailers. They're parked on the property every day. There was a large van, there was a trailer without a tag, and they were being parked all along Lark Place permanently until neighbors complained, and then eventually they moved the... those vehicles onto the property. So there's a history of eight code enforcement complaints, and the pattern never changed. The city came out, they cleaned some stuff up, they left, and then everybody went back to business as usual. And it's not enforcement. This is what you're being asked to do. It's a strategic move on the church's part to permit a property, a building and solar panels that they can't afford to build so if you look at both ideas for us and the church's financial history they don't have the funds they don't have plans in place to actually do these it's really to distract from the other activities that are going on on the property that are are not within the code thanks you have additional 30 seconds if unless you're complete If I can close, would that be okay? So in closing, my family loved this neighborhood, but the CUP is a strategic move by the church and their representatives to formalize what they couldn't achieve through code compliance in the variance process. It's not what's best for the community, and I urge you to please protect the families who still live there.
Thank you. Thank you.
Good morning. My name is John Stevens. I own the property located at 1302 Cardinal Road. I'm north of the church at the corner of Cardinal and Lark. My family has owned the property for 41 years. I wanted to smile at the board members and say thank you. through your service to the City of Orlando. The Municipal Planning Board will be a chapter in your life that you look back upon with pride and honor knowing that you walked the walk, you actually made a difference in the growth of Orlando. I know this because I donated over 10 years of my life to the Winter Park Planning and Zoning Board. I understand the commitment and I thank you for it. I'm here with a group of concerned neighbors to voice our disagreement with the industrial use of the church property. for fleet farming and the associated industrial activities. In your packet today, you should have a letter that I wrote to Jim Burnett voicing my concerns with a short timeline of how we got here and my concerns. By profession, I'm a licensed architect, and I know the importance of community gathering buildings. The church is an asset to the neighborhood. It strengthens the sense of community and has historically been a visual appealing asset. What's not visually positive is the industrial use, the open storage of mulch and dirt mounds, the code violating six foot tall privacy fence in the front yard and the work trucks parked on the street all the time. Church, I feel, is weaponizing the word sustainability to gain credence with this board, to make it feel better, to make it feel like we're doing something for the earth to improve the earth. The fleet farming industrial use is disruptive to the adjacent neighbors. Everybody that's talked to you so far that lives in Audubon Park doesn't live on Cardinal, doesn't live on Lark. They are around the corner. It's not in my backyard. They don't have to look at it. They don't have to deal with it on a day-to-day basis. Industrial use is not conducive to residential zoning. And I heard one of the neighbors say that the food is used in schools. The food or the product from the fleet farming. I can't help but think that this is a stretch of words. You can't even take, and I know this from personal experience, you can't even take homemade cupcakes into school for consumption by students. I don't know how vegetables from fleet farming are used as a food source in schools.
30 seconds are up.
Thank you very much. We're just asking that you follow the guidelines that Jim Burnett detailed out, specifically D1. Assembly facilities shall conform with residential dwellings and their day-to-day use don't negatively impact the neighborhood. It's a simple problem to fix. The industrial use doesn't mix with the residents located on Cardinal and Lark. And I'm requesting that the board deny today's request. And thank you again for your community support and your dedication of hours and years on this board. I appreciate it very much.
Thank you.
The next speaker is Alan Rodriguez, followed by Clayton Ferreira, and that would conclude the speakers.
Good morning. My name is Alan Rodriguez. I'm nervous. Sorry about this. I live on Lock Place, 122 Fort Lock Place. This can be very emotional for me. I'm a dad. I've got two young boys. My wife's here, Kristen. They go to school at Audubon Park. We used to love the streets in the neighborhood. It used to be safe. I want to start with saying they started dumping truckloads of mulch and manure taller than me on the property, unprotective, blowing in storms. They started building a tin shed that we knew I went up to past this era and said, this can't be legal. This isn't right. She said, no, no, it's legal. It's fine. They stopped building the shed, which was taller than me. It started flapping in the wind. We called and told her what was happening. We were ignored. The shed blew down in a storm one day. This funny, crushing my classic Camaro, crushing the roof, blowing, heading towards my son's bedroom window. It ended up stopping in the driveway. Screws and bolts everywhere. I called. Yes, they came and picked it up, but I didn't get an apology. I didn't get my car repaired. Sorry, second. They continue building without permits. They built another shed, six-foot sheds, without permits. They leave pitchforks out. I send pitchers to Jim. There's pitchforks, shovels. Everything gets left out every night. On a windy night, stuff's blowing and flapping everywhere, whether it's their covered golf cart that's not secured or bicycles. Right in front of my house, because it's the quiet roadblock place, they left two commercial vehicles, a big van and a big box van and a Chevy truck, both with expired tags. So were these cars insured if anything were to happen to these cars? All the kids used to play in the streets. Some of the kids have moved away. And we have these big box trucks without tags and insured. I had to call the police to get them moved, because no one cares. Here's the thing, I want the church to succeed. They have some great events there, Saturday mornings, thrift stores, vintage stores, all kinds of stuff comes by. But the current tenants they have in there have just disrespected us and they're a danger to the neighbors and danger to people on the street, especially my kids and kids that have had to move away. And there's still, yes, it's a community. We want more kids to move in, but it's dangerous on my street, a locked place, the quiet street. That's all I have to say, really, is they ignore permits. They leave stuff out that's dangerous regularly and have destroyed the classic Camaro. And the shed nearly went in my son's bedroom. That's all I want to say. They're building without permits. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Clayton Ferreira and then Mark Thornbloom.
Good morning, everyone. My name is Clayton Ferrara, resident of 2110 Gopher Tortoise Terrace, Oakland, Florida, 34787. I'm a Rollins alum. I've been in Winter Park for the last 21 years until my recent move out to Oakland. I've also been a member of Mayor Dyer's Green Works Task Force, first starting as an author for the Green Works Plan in 2007, again in 2013. And now I'm really honored to be part of the new drafting of that proposal. I'm the CEO of Ideas for Us. We created Fleet Farming back in 2014 through a series of community events at East End Market. The entire idea was how could we bring urban agriculture to the city of Orlando, engage young people and community members through a healthy activity on bicycles to then grow food and circulate it throughout the community. We have food safety handling permitting. All of our vehicles are insured. And for many years, we operated out of the Caley Square Community Center because the majority of produce that we grew was circulated to the Holden Heights community and also Jones High School and also a few community centers in Pine Hills. Today, all of the flea farming produce is given away through a Florida Blue-funded program called Harvesting Hope. And we essentially grow produce with homeowners in their front lawns and then distribute that throughout the community. This is a program that we're really honored to do, and tens of thousands of people over the years have taken part in this. And we've received a lot of awards and a lot of recognition from the Today Show to NBC Nightly News and so on. It is very important to us that we run an up and up 501 organization. We routinely are audited. We routinely receive federal funding. And it's very important to us that we maintain all of the required permitting. So I'd like to say that all of the proposed changes that we make, we're happy to do. We are never in an adversarial position. We try to listen to all of the feedback from everyone that we receive in the community. Many of the complaints and concerns that were raised have been rectified and including the creation of the fence to be able to shield some of this debris for which we had to raise funding for in order to erect. So we're happy to comply with everything that has been proposed today. And I thank you all very much for your consideration of this. Thank you.
Thank you. All right. And that completes our speaker request forms. I would ask you this time.
I'm so sorry. We have one more.
Oh, sorry. My apologies.
Mark Thornboom. Thorn bloom.
Hi, my name is Mark Thornbloom, and I'm a member of Audubon Park Covenant Church, and my address is 3404 Angelico Street in Cocoa, Florida. So that's not on Lark or Cardinal or Chelsea, definitely. And I am actually here in support of the, not just of the fleet farming work that Ideas for Us has been doing, but also of the full CUP, which includes other options that have been listed and you have in your packet. I started attending years ago. I started attending the church. I'm actually a third generation missionary kid. My parents and grandparents are missionaries to covenant missionaries to Africa. And so I started attending Audubon Church because it's a covenant church. I continue to attending because of what Pastor Sarah has been doing in terms of creation care, as well as other things that Christ calls me to do as well. Today, we're actually talking mostly on the church. creation care aspect of it and protecting the earth that the Lord has given to us. I would, yeah, I would basically just want to summarize that I can't speak to the dangers that some of the other residents have spoken of. I was there in the aftermath of the windstorm that did blow over that shed. It was actually being constructed and before they could get it secured, the windstorm blew up in Orlando. Who knew? Coco, we see it all the time, but the, you know, and did actually blow over and did damage a classic car, a beautiful car. I wasn't aware of the extent of damage that apparently happened. I didn't see that extent of damage when I was there in the aftermath. I can't speak to the dangers that these children are experiencing as a result of fleet farming because I haven't seen anything. I've seen the staff been very polite to me and work so forth. So those issues may be very real to them, but in my opinion, every experience that I've had with the fleet farming has been positive and is in support of what Christ calls us to do in order to care for his creation. So I would urge you please to support the CUP, not just for fleet farming, for the other work as well. Thank you.
Thank you. And with that, we complete our speaker request forms and the applicant will approach to respond.
Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the board. This has been a lot of information I'm sure to take in. The staff report was very robust. There was also a staff report that was done for the variance case as was mentioned. I wanna remind the board that timing does matter and the church was established well before the homes in the community, well before zoning regulations in most cases that were mentioned today. Accessory service use portion of the code was created after the church was in place. The public benefit use portion of the code was created after the church was in place. And so while we feel that what's happening on the church is permitted by right, we do think that providing parameters to help not only the church, provide their tenants, whether that's ideas for us or somebody else that's aligned with the mission, comes along as an accessory service use, it provides the church with those parameters as well. Nobody's denying that things were constructed without permit. There's a lot of explanations behind that. None of it's relevant to the matter before the board today. The request, again, is to allow the expansion of an accessory service use, which is the Ideas for Us Sustainability Education Initiative. Currently, it takes up 6% of the property area. The accessory service code allows for no more than 10% of the property area to be used by an accessory service use. Again, that code post dates the church being constructed. City code also requires that unless a property is doing an improvement that is a substantial improvement or they're doing a substantial expansion, a pre-existing non-conforming use does not have to comply with code. And so therefore, while we do agree that a lot of the uses that are happening are permitted by right, we want to be good neighbors. We want to put those parameters in place. We've provided additional information that is outside of what we originally requested, which was really focused on the caretaker's quarters in the solar array, because those are part of the church's future plans. Those will push the accessory service uses over that 10% request. which is why we've made the request to allow it to go up to 15%. I think the staff report does a great job of explaining the history of things. The issues that have been raised today related to open storage, that's resolved by the conditions of approval that are put in the staff report. It's resolved by the six foot fence that yes, it was erected unpermitted. Once the board makes its decision and there's a final determination on what needs to happen, that fence is going to go through the permitting process and be relocated compliant with the conditions that are in the staff report. There was some question as to whether the fence was erected in the front yard or the rear yard or the street side yard. Obviously, there are streets on every side of this property. We've talked about how that's a unique situation. If you look at the development of the property of the church over history, you can see that the parking has always been in the location that it's in. And if you read code that's been adopted even, again, after the church was in place, you'll see that parking is not permitted in a front yard. So the church was designed and built to where the front yard is off Chelsea Street, and it's not where the parking area is. So the question of whether the fence should be four feet or six feet, again, is clarified in this staff report. So I think this staff report does a great job of providing parameters for how these accessory service uses can continue to operate on this property. I think that it's a great compromise for everybody. The other question that came up was street parking. There's question about commercial vehicles, non-commercial vehicles, trailers. Again, we need to look at when this church property was developed, whether what's being requested is a substantial improvement or a substantial enlargement, which it's not. So again, those portions of the code post-date when the church was created. So I'm here to answer any questions. I know there's been a lot of information. If you have any questions for me, again, we appreciate staff's time. This has been a long process. It's been a complicated process. I am not an operator of a 501c3. I've dipped my toes into starting one, just as much as I don't understand that. I have been educating the pastor on planning. They're not planners, they don't understand city code, they don't understand city process at times. And so I feel like I've done a worked with the church in the city to come up with a great compromise. Here to answer any questions.
Thank you. Any questions from the board at this time for the applicant?
I have a question. You made reference to 6% variance to 15%, and that it would be above the 10% variance. What's the guarantee that if this cottage is not built, that this turns into 15% of storage of landscape material?
If I may address that issue, a rectory or an accessory dwelling unit on the property would not be considered an accessory use because that's traditionally what is a normally part of the principal use of the property. So the issue at hand is not that we're They've asked for variance to go above to 15%, but the activities as the condition of the staff report are associated with fleet farming would be under that amount. And, you know, how they utilize that rectory, it's up to the church, essentially. We're not going to get into the business of regulating what the church's activities are going to be doing. It's not appropriate for a government agency to do. Does that make sense?
Yes, to some degree. Again, I'm going back to the statement that you made that you said that it was going to be above the variance and would be 15%. So I guess... Sure, if I may.
And the term variance is a little bit misleading because that is a separate process in the code, a completely separate board. I did serve as the chair of the Board of Zoning Adjustment here at the City of Orlando for a number of years. So when this process was going through the variance process and I read the staff report, that's when I reached out to... city staff to talk about a different process that was more appropriate for what's trying to be accomplished. The section of code that I referenced is section 58.912, and it's under the accessory service use section of the code. Again, this section of the code was adopted in 1991. after the church was already established and operating. This section of the code says the total floor area occupied by all accessory service uses shall not exceed 10% of the floor area of the development site. So currently, without the way that the church sits, the fenced-in area where the mulch materials are being stored is only 6% of that property. So that's the clarification. Again, I would state that that code doesn't apply because the church predates that code. The church is not asking to do any kind of a substantial enlargement, and they're not doing a substantial improvement.
Okay, thank you.
However, again, we agree that staff putting these parameters in place is a great idea. So that's why we've agreed to go through the conditional use process.
And again, I would like to add the issue before you is not that the church was not established legally as a legal non-conforming use, if you will, that didn't have an original master plan. But when you do add accessory uses to a property, they have to be in compliance with the code. They just don't happen automatically without following the required code requirements. So that's a little bit of a distinction I want to make.
Any additional questions? All right. Seeing none, we will close the public hearing and we can bring it back to the board for discussion. I can start out with some thoughts and we can go from there. So I appreciate the idea that the church has been the center of the Audubon community for a very long time. It's clear that it's been both a catalyst and a product of the culture there. So very much observed and appreciate the support. With that being said, understanding it's an important center of the neighborhood, clearly I think everyone agrees, everyone that's spoken agrees that there needs to be some um ongoing code compliance with the uses that are there and i think that no one's disagreed with that from what i've heard and i've also heard that no one really disagrees with the uses that are happening it's just that you know what are the ways in which they're managed so that the the neighborhood feels um in support of it moving forward and in reaction to their own properties in the neighborhood um so with that i think the conditions that are in the cup i think that Given that an alternative process could have been given to rectify the issue and then the applicant and the owner went through the process of going through a CUP, which I think puts in place pretty clear guidelines moving forward and guidelines that must be adhered to for the maintenance of the CUP. And that's very important here. So essentially writing their own codes to abide by, which address many of the issues that I think are appropriate to to put in place moving forward. So I'd be in support of what's put in front of us today is a solution with the conditions of approval in place.
Was that a motion?
It was not a motion yet. That was open for discussion. But I can formulate that into a motion.
Yeah, I tend to agree with you, I think. I do appreciate, you know, you know, the neighbors who were impacted by this, but it seems like there may be something outside of this process that could that the church could work with, you know, those homers to address the issues. But I kind of see this as the church was, you know, building certain things, the city being them and said, you need to come and be in compliance and get a permit and that's what they're doing and so now you know things will be under control and you know it seems like they are good neighbors and will work to you know keep all the open items you know at bay but The main important thing is that they will be bound by these rules once we implement them to make sure that they are in compliance with city code to protect the neighborhood and to continue operating. So I motion that we approve the conditional use permit as laid out in the, you know, subject to the staff report, the conditions in the staff report.
Before we second, I saw Ms. Reed, you had your hand up. Would you like to speak before that?
Yeah, I guess I would just say, I mean, I definitely feel torn because I think I love the idea of sustainability, community, but also hearing very clearly a lot of the neighbors that have been impacted. You know, eight code enforcement violations, It just seems like there's a history of not respecting the adjacent neighbors. You know, the long term parking on the streets, different things like that. So I guess I would just say my only concern with approving this is You know, I know there's conditions, but those conditions have to be enforced. And there's a history of not abiding by the current state of the rules. So, you know, I guess time will tell. I think there are a lot of good things in the conditions. You know, the screening, the parking not on the streets, the screening, the fencing, all these things. But I think, you know, the church has to follow through with these things. Um, because, you know, it should be a place where the neighbors are in harmony, right? Like the church and the neighbors are like, feel good about each other. So I would just say I'm in favor of this, but I think it's really on the church to follow through with this and to be a good neighbor, um, even though they were there first. Um, but it is a neighborhood now. It is, you know, single family. Um, that's all I have. Thank you.
Thank you. And we do have a motion on the floor for Ms. Moreno in approval. So we may seek a second. And I will second that. All those in favor, please unmute your mic and say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, it passes unanimously. Thank you. All right, we will move on to item number five.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just to read this item. This is AdventHealth. The applicant is Boren Owen of Gray Robinson. Owner is AdventHealth Systems Sunbelt, Inc. Location is 601 East Wallen Street. District is three. Project planner is Kalandra Jones. These are three cases. First is filed under DRI 2026-1000. This is an amendment to add seven recently acquired properties, which totaled 2.92 acres to the Florida Hospital Health Village Development of Regional Impact. Second item here is GMP 2026-1003. This is a change of future land use designation from mixed use quarter medium intensity and urban activity center to urban village for the seven recently acquired properties. and a straight rezoning or a PD rezoning, ZON 2026-1002. It's a plan development amendment to add recently acquired properties to that health PD. PD amendment will allow a pedestrian bridge over Dade Avenue to connect Innovation Tower and the West Bed Tower. The recommended action is approval of requests subject to the conditions in the staff report. Ms. Calandra-Jones is here to give you a little overview on the project.
GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS. I AM CALANDRA JONES, THE PROJECT PLANNER FOR THE ADVENT HEALTH DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT MANAGEMENT PLAN AMENDMENT AND PD AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU TODAY. So the project location is approximately 119 acres located in District 3, located east of I-4, west of North Mills Avenue, south of Westchester Avenue, and north of East New Hampshire Street. JUST A LITTLE HISTORY IN REGARDS TO ADVENT HEALTH. IN FEBRUARY 1986, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER FOR THE ORLANDO CAMPUS FOR FLORIDA HOSPITAL. AND THEN BACK IN 1995, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE ESTATUSMENT OF THE PD ZONING TO CREATE land use guidelines for the development of Florida Hospital. In 2009, the City Council approved the second amended and restated development of regional impact order for Florida Hospital and also approved a new GMP sub-area policy S.13.15 and also created the PD as well for this property. And back in 2019, City Council approved an amendment to the PD to modify signage types to reflect the rebranding of the hospital from Florida Hospital to Advent Health. And back in 2020, City Council approved an amendment to add eight parcels totaling about two acres to the DRI and PD as well. So the requested actions today is a DRI amendment to add seven recently acquired properties, which totals 2.92 acres to the Florida hospital DRI. Also before you is to change the future land use designation of seven of those properties from mixed use corridor, medium intensity, and one other property of urban activity center, all to urban village to, coincide with all of the remaining properties within the DRI PD. And the last request is the plan development amendment to add the recently required properties to the PD and also to allow a pedestrian bridge over Dade Avenue, which would connect the current innovation tower and a new proposed multi-story multi-office building. So the properties which will be added to the DRI, which were recently required by AdventHealth, as you can see on your screen, you have six properties that are to the northern portion of the site. If you see what is outlined in red is the planning area for Florida Hospital. That was... done back when the DRI was approved. So they are asking for 123456 in this general area here and the southern property down here off of Princeton Street as well to be added to the entire DRI and PD. So those properties that are in green is what the AdventHealth currently owns. Those that are not shaded, they do not own. And the purple are the ones that they are seeking to add today. So as I was just stating previously, Advent Health owns a majority of the property within the planning area that was in red. However, there are some properties that are not under its ownership. So in the planning effort, the DRI provided provisions upon property acquisition for sites within the area. So according to the DRI section 4.1.6, it recognizes the developer does not presently own all of the land within Florida Hospital planning area, And it is anticipated that real property not owned by the developer within the Florida hospital planning area may be purchased by the developer in the future and will then become part of its DRI. The urban village future land use designation, this is just giving a portion of what is stated that the land use that they're looking to get for the properties that have been recently acquired. It is to provide a mixture of land uses and intensities within the development site. And it is intended as a mean of streamlining the development review process where a plan development, a sector plan, and or master plan have been fully accounted for for the impacts of development. This designation shall be structured to ensure that the urban village and the individual components of the urban village are compatible with existing or projected surrounding land uses, taking into consideration environmental constraints, health and safety issues, and the appropriateness and potential impact of the urban village on the adjacent and existing and future land uses. So also surrounding the property is future land use a very policy you s dot. 13.5 and as stated previously these 7 properties will have retained the urban village which yet land use designation the poor ones in the North more from mixed use court or medium intensity to urban village and the southern portion urban activity to urban village. So the Advent Health PD, this map here is currently within the PD that gives parcel locations within the particular PD and also their uses within this development criteria. So the six that will be in the northern section here in the in the red box here are considered as parcel nine and the southern portion is going to be part of parcel 38. And just some uses that are allowed within parcel nine, permitted is education, hospital, office, which is medical or general, residential and an energy plan. The underlying zoning is AC2 and what it will cover any standard that's not specifically outlined in the overall PD. The maximum building height for parcel 9 would be 75 feet for these six properties. Then in parcel 30A, which is the southern portion on East Princeton, the other uses are included are education, hospital office, retail, commercial, and residential. That underlying zoning is 02 and it will cover any standard not specifically outlined within the overall PD. And also for this one, the maximum building height would be 75 feet. And the request for the pedestrian bridge. At current, the AdventHealth PD allows for a pedestrian bridge for hospital uses which exceed 100,000 square feet. But they are specifically prohibited in four streets, which include Orange Avenue, Princeton Street, Dade Avenue, and Rollins Street between Orange Avenue and Dade Avenue. The applicant came to us back in October in 2025 and requested a planning official determination, which was approved for the Orange Medical Building, which is a 12-story, 354,000-square-foot building located west of North Orange Avenue, north of East Rollins Street and east of Dade Avenue and south of East Winter Park Street. That case was DET 202510231. In that proposed package, there was a pedestrian bridge that went over Dade Avenue that connected the proposed Orange Medical Office Building to the existing Innovation Tower, which is currently erected as a 12-story, 323,000 square foot medical office building. But since that section in the PD regarding pedestrian bridges did not allow to be crossed over Dade Avenue, the depicted bridge that was in that permit set was not approved with the medical office building. And a condition in that particular report stated that if the applicant wanted to pursue a proposal with a pedestrian bridge, a PD amendment would be required. And that is the request before you today. And so the language within the PD is stated on your screen, so it will all continue to have the same language, but strike out the Dade Avenue portion of that particular language. And a condition of approval for that, the proposed pedestrian bridge over Dade Avenue to connect to the proposed Orange Medical Building and existing Innovation Tower is required to be reviewed and approved through a planning official determination prior to obtaining any type of building permit. So that is the case before you today. And we, staff recommends approval of these cases subject to the staff conditions. And I'm available for any questions.
Thank you. Mr. Barrett? Yes, I do have a question.
Yes, sir.
Is this development partnership with AdventHealth and another developer, or is this just AdventHealth? It's just AdventHealth.
Okay. And to note now, they do not currently have a development proposal. It's just adding the properties to their particular DRI and PD, but they will have to come back if they do have some type of development plan through a plan of official determination.
Okay, so at that time, if the land is not used, that developer is the one who can purchase the land.
No, Advent Health has purchased the land already.
Okay.
Yes, sir. So they have complete ownership. Okay.
And why were the bridges not allowed over dead? And what would make a difference to be allowed over dead this time around?
I will defer to the applicant for that because there's some history in regards to that particular condition back in 2009.
And I would just add from the staff's perspective, Dave Avenue functions more like an alley rather than a street. So it's reasonable to allow the bridges to function like that way over what has essentially become an alley on the campus.
Any additional questions for staff? Seeing none, we can move to public comment. Thank you. Will the applicant like to speak? Thank you.
Good morning. Pleasure to be with you all this morning. Warren Owen, Gray Robinson, 301 East Pine Street, Suite 1400, Orlando. So Calandra has done an excellent job of explaining to you all why we are here. If I may take a moment to explain how we got here. Notwithstanding my unnaturally youthful appearance, I've been involved with Florida Hospital since 1988. Everything you saw that's been done since 1986, I did not do the one in 1986. I was here, didn't do that. All the others, 1995, 2009, 2019, 2020. I was legal counsel and still am legal counsel for Florida Hospital through all those. Drafted all the documents initially, worked with city staff, city legal. We come through a lot. Back in the day, in the late 80s, early 90s, I'm going to mention some names that might mean something to some folks here. Bob Haven was the chief administrative officer. Bill Frederick was the mayor. Rick Bernhardt was the deputy director of planning and development. Richard Levy was involved. He was an assistant of Rick Bernhardt. And we were trying to come up with a plan to how to manage what Florida Hospital was owned and what they wanted to do, what we wanted to do. At the time, We owned about 100 and not quite 100 acres. And we agreed with the city that a hodgepodge development parcel by parcel just wasn't the way to do it. It needed to be something more generation-based, much more involved, much more under city control. AdventHealth has been here in this location since 1908. So we came up with a plan to create this planning area, which Calandra showed you. It covers about 160 acres. We don't own all the land within the planning area, but what happened is back in 1992, We went through an extensive analysis of analyzing all of that property, all 160 acres as if we owned it. Land use, transportation, density, transition to neighbors. And then again in 2009, we went through the process all over again with city staff, with our currently adopted Development Regional Impact DRI and our PD. And so we have analyzed the city has analyzed and we have agreed we being advent health that we would essentially over regulate ourselves beyond what the city code requires. So the city said, we will give you this planning area. We will approve all the things that you can do, AdventHealth, within that planning area, land use, height, all the things Kalandra explained to you. But here's what we require back. We require back, we being the city, we require back that when you acquire property, you must, you must, go through this process we're with before you today to bring this property into the DRI and into the PD so we, the city, can control it. We want it within our PD because it's an expansive document. As you saw, Kalandra gave you a snapshot of it. I felt like I was going through a memory lane because I wrote the provision she showed you. It was kind of like, wow, that's, so here we are. So we must be here today because you required it in 1995 and in 2009. There's no development plan before you today. We have no, there's no permit being sought. There's no building being sought. This is not about that. What this is about is we have bought seven pieces of property and we want to bring them in as we are required to do into our PD and to our DRI so you can control them with all the other stuff. And there are a myriad of, regulations, what type benches we can put on the street, what they have to look like. We have design guidelines, landscaping guidelines. And at the time, I remember dealing with the leadership of Florida Hospital, and they said, why would we agree to this? Why would we agree to overregulate ourselves because we're giving the city power that others don't have? We are far and beyond what the traditional city requires. We did it because, number one, Our mission is to extend the healing ministry of Christ. That's who we are. We know we are big. We know we are large. And we know we are expansive. We're not like, if you build it, they will come. They are here. So we're building to address the needs. We agreed to be over-regulated by the city of Orlando because that was the partnership we forged almost 40 years ago. I was there. I'm probably the last man standing. Still here. I wrote the documents. I work with city staff. That's why we forged this relationship, this partnership, to give you the power to control us and what we can do. So that's what these seven parcels represent. Please take them, because without them, you have the traditional city. It's not enough. You need more. Sounds like I'm talking against myself, doesn't it? You need them to be in our PD and our DRI so you can control them, your staff can control them just like all the other property, the bridge. You ask about why now? So back in the day, when the vision was created, the things that are happening west of Orange Avenue were not even contemplated. We now have two very large, which we do not own, by the way, we sold the land, multi-story apartment buildings. Many, many of the folks live there, work at AdventHealth. We didn't expect that almost 40 years ago. We didn't think that those would be there. They are. We didn't think that we would have Innovation Tower on I-4. We do. It's hard to envision everything, right? My crystal ball isn't quite so clear often. So back 40 years ago, almost 40 years ago, we didn't know what we didn't know. But now we do. There's so much happening west of Orange Avenue. They'd... is becoming a different used street. So we're requesting the pedestrian bridge for patient safety and pedestrian safety to get between Innovation Tower, big building already there, to another big building already permitted between the two. At the time, now almost 40 years ago, the vision was we want a lot of, oops, sorry, a city at the time wanted a lot of pedestrian activity, a lot of street activity happening. We still do, but we also want to recognize where we are and where we sit. So that's the pedestrian bridge. We believe it's essential for patient safety, project safety, and employee safety, people safety. That's the reason for the change on the bridge. But again, we're not seeking, we're not asking for any project approval. We're not before you today saying, we're going to take these seven parcels of land and this is what we're doing. That's not here. That's a different process. Back to your question, different process. If and when we choose to do something, we have so many things to go through to deal with that, and the city controls all of it through our PD, through our zoning, through our development guidelines, through our design guidelines. Let's see if I've covered everything I wanted to. I've said a lot. We are concerned about neighbors. You've seen emails. I think they're in your packet. Calandra has shared them with me. Concerns of Florida Hospital back in the day when we had our incinerator and we had so many things that we went through back then. I'm surprised I look as young as I do because of all the things we went back through almost 40 years ago. But here we sit. The concerns about AdventHealth aren't in relationship to what's before you. The concern about AdventHealth is are we a good neighbor or not? We want to be. We've tried to be. Last night, a member of the Office of Design and Construction from AdventHealth went to a neighbor, Martin Buckley, who lives on Lake Winnia at 830 last night, took pictures from his back porch in his bedroom of the lake, lights across the lake, to see what he sees. Because Martin, I've known Martin for a long time. He called me and said, we have some concerns about lights from Winnia. Your property. I said, great. Let me put you in touch with the right folks at AdventHealth. Last night, that occurred. So Brian M.D. went and took pictures in Martin Buckley's home. And as a result of that, AdventHealth is going to get with our lighting consultants and engineers to address the lighting issues, the landscape issues. All these things were discussed. We will do. We will hear. We will listen. And we have in the past. We have. Oren Manor has been our neighbor for a really long time. And we recognize that. We hear them. But that's a different process than what's before you today. If I may, Mr. Chairman, may I reserve a few minutes and respond if I need to at the end of any public comments, please?
Absolutely.
And I'm happy to answer questions if any of the members of the board have any questions of me at this moment. Yes.
Well, I just have one question because I believe there's some public sentiment, but you guys have already purchased the property.
You plan on obviously constructing or developing it.
No plans.
No plans currently.
Currently no plans.
Currently, no plans. But in the future, you will have some plans. For sure. And once the properties are within the PD, then you have the plan development guidelines will apply. So there's really no need to come back to this board because as long as you stay within the guidelines of the PD, right?
There is a... Technically, that's correct. But we stay within the guidelines of the PD, but it does require significant input from city staff. It's called a planning letter of determination. So if and when we decide to develop property within the PD, we fabricated this back all these years ago to create this unique process to give the city that much more control. We don't just apply for building permits. So we can't, I think I know where your question is going. We can't just come in and say, we want a building permit for this property in our PD because our PD allows it. So now give us a building permit. That's not how this works for us. How it works for us is we determine we want to build a property, a project on property we own. We file an application, formal application with city staff. It's called a planning official letter of determination. That goes through extensive staff review where staff, all members of staff, Calandra has been our adult supervisor in all this process. goes through extensive review by city staff to confirm that we are in absolute compliance. And if we're not, it's denied. It's not a free skate. If that's your concern, it's not a free skate. There is a significant process of review by staff to confirm that our over-regulation by our PD is being followed.
Does that answer your question? Yes. Thank you. Of course.
Any additional questions from the board? All right. Thank you. Seeing none, we'll go to the, uh, speaker requests. Okay. Thank you.
I have one speaker request, Mandy Barrezo.
As a reminder, please state your name and address for the record. Thank you. Yes, sir.
Mooney Barrezo, 1018 Wilkinson street, Orwin manners. And, um, I'm not sure what's going on and what they're actually approving, but what I do see, and I'm retired now, I moved to Oregon Manors from Windermere in 2019. I've ran businesses, I used to be in the car business, and listening to them talk about what they've developed, and I had a situation with AdventHealth that I tried to reach out to them multiple times and no one calls me back. So for them to do this planned development, I bought an Independence back in 2005, actually in 2004 when it was a dirt road. And then they come in, it's supposed to be three phases, and it's supposed to be three pools and three services, and all of a sudden they can't afford it. They went in bankruptcy, and everything changed. And all of a sudden you've got 2,800 homes, and you don't have anywhere for the kids to have recreations. There's no parks. There's no this, no that. Nothing they say in the original plan of development. So here I am. I walk the neighborhood all the time. I see this huge building going up. I mean, it's got to be 70, 60, 70 feet. So I used to walk around the lake. I can't walk around the lake no more. They got it blocked off, construction. I don't know how many neighbors are in Orbit Manors. You guys, I'm sure you know District 3. But... Hey, Abbott Health is good. It's great for the community. But you guys got to figure out a way that there's balance for the neighbors. That's how our house was built in 55. Yeah, they've been there since, I don't know, 1920 or whatever. Okay, we got to have respect. We pay taxes. I don't know how much Abbott Health pays in taxes. They're probably tax-free. I'm the only one here I'm surprised. I thought it would be a bunch of other neighbors here. But with all due respect, I hope when you look at this plan that when you guys consider whatever they want right now, because I don't understand it. I'm telling you right now, you guys know it better than I do. When I seen all these screens, I wish I had been home taking notes because I could have said a bunch of stuff that I actually contradict. But personally, AdventHealth don't care about me as an individual. They're a huge monster. Give them this development. They don't care about the neighbors. So please, thank you for your time. Thank you for doing what you guys do. But please protect me and the other neighbors in the neighborhood. Please, I beg you. Thank you for your time. That's all I have to say.
Thank you. I believe that is all of our speaker cards. One more, Justin. Okay. We've already passed item nine in the consent. Thank you, sir.
All right.
Thank you. With that, the applicant may re-approach.
Thank you for being here. Please get my contact information from Calandra Jones City staff. Please call me directly. I will put you in contact with the right people at AdventHealth who will listen to you. I promise they will listen to you. But please... Well, that's why I'm saying please call me, and I will put you in touch with people who will communicate with you, and we will listen to you. He's right. The fencing was put up around Lake Winnia on private property owned by AdventHealth. there's construction happening there and you all know that when construction happens you put up fencing it protects it controls it keeps in place you all know how that works that's the reason it's there it will be reopened it's not permanently closed it's only during the time of construction that's all i have to add we will be a good neighbor we try to be a good neighbor we will listen we can't always address everything everyone says We're not going to go away, so if that's a concern, I can't address that one, but we can be as good of neighbors as we possibly can be, recognizing who we are and the size of our organization. Other questions, I'm happy to answer.
Any other questions from the board?
No, the only comment I have is, One of the comments the gentleman made was that he did not understand what's happening with the change in the land use code. And I think if you just, for a moment, just explain to him what the urban village really represents, he'll find that it actually... resonates a little bit to what your concern is, which it helps make it a community-based walkability for your community as well as the development. So it's supposed to be based on that. So if he understands that term, then he'll understand that. It's not taking away green areas, but actually making it incorporate some green areas and have spaces for neighborhoods to actually, you know, congregate and different things like that. So with shops and different things.
Do you want me to take a minute? Yes. So, The planning area where AdventHealth sits is controlled by documents that the city regulates, approved by the city. The PD, which is the plan development zoning, which is plan development zoning is zoning outside the code. It's provided for by the code, but it allows certain regulations to be in place that often go well beyond what the code requires. Our plan development, our PD does that. That document was approved in early 1995. And then again in 2009, which regulates everything AdventHealth does within the planning area, which includes property we don't own. Now, if we don't own the property, it's not controlled by that document. So if someone lives or has property in our planning area that we don't own, you're not bound by what we agree. But what we did agree and the city required is if we buy property within that planning area, We have to bring it into the PD, to our zoning. We have to rezone it so the city can control it. Without doing that, the city doesn't have anything but code, and code is not strong enough for what we agreed back in the early 90s. So we've agreed to that all those years ago that we would be overregulated, and we agreed to bring property in. Back to trying to be good neighbors. Part of all what we agreed to do as well, the quiet zones on the railroad crossings, we paid for those. I went through the process of dealing with the railroad to get permission to do the four quiet zones on the AdventHealth campus. We paid for all of them. Train whistles, we were concerned about that, not just for us, but for our neighbors. You don't hear train whistles because we paid for the quiet zones because we wanted to do that for the neighbors. The SunRail station, we paid for that. We donated the land and we paid for the construction of the Sunrail stop at AdventHealth because we want to be part of our community and we believe that we are part of our community. Those are the things that we've done. We magnificently, I say magnificently because if any of y'all have dealt with FDOT, and I mean that with much love, worked with DOT to create a joint use pond along I-4 to facilitate the I-4 ultimate. Without our participation, it could not have happened because so much drainage was needed for the I-4 ultimate. We donated the land. We donated the land and said, we'll make it a huge joint use pond that AdventHealth can share with DOT that shepherded in the I-4 ultimate. Just to, I could continue. I don't want to, again, drag you all through the keyhole of all the things that have transpired, but back to you. Please reach out to Calandra, get my contact information. Please call me or email me. I will put you in touch with the folks at Florida Hospital. Old habits die hard. AdventHealth, and we will hear you. Again, one of AdventHealth employee was at Martin Buckley's home last night, one of your neighbors. He was there last night taking pictures. So we will hear. Does that help? Does that address what you were asking of me?
Yes, it does.
Yes. Yes, it does.
Thank you.
You're welcome. You're welcome.
All right, thank you. Before we close public hearing, any additional questions for the applicant? Seeing none, thank you very much. Thank you. We'll close public hearing.
Thank you all.
All right, we'll pull back to the board for any discussion or entertainment of a motion.
I'd like to make a motion to accept the, to accept it in regards to the, approve the request subject to the condition in staff report.
Motion by Board Member Barrett. Do we have a second? I will second. All those in favor, please unmute your mic and say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, passes unanimously. Thank you. All right, that concludes our regular agenda for today. Do we have any appeal updates?
Paul Lewis, Chief Planning Manager. This will not take very long. We have one update, the 1600 Heron Avenue project that you heard back in February. The quasi-judicial hearing date has been set for April 23rd, which is, what, two days from now. So we'll let you know what happens with that as soon as it goes through the remainder of that process.
All right. Thank you. And in other news, I believe today is Betsy's last meeting with us. Sad to see her go, but thanks for all your service to the board. You've been fantastic. And I know that you'll have a very good replacement that I take it you're helping train at the moment.
Just in case. She might cover just in case Ed will be stepping in until a permanent replacement is made.
All right. Well, thank you. And best of luck moving forward. With that, we will adjourn at, what does that say? N47 AM. Thank you very much.
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