Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

I'll wait for the high sign. There we go. Okay. So, this is the meeting of the Oregon City Planning Commission, on 11/24/2025, and I, would like to call the roll.

Here. Here. Here.

Commissioner Schleigenhofer? Here. Commissioner Stoll?

Here.

Commissioner Laws is online? Here. And chair Espy?

Here. Okay. And then before we get started on public hearings or or public comments, I would like to inter, take this opportunity to introduce Kelly Hart, our new community development director. Kelly, is, are you here? Oh, okay. I see your picture on the on the computer. And, yeah. Do you have a few words?

Yes. Good evening, chair, members of the commission. I just wanted to take a few seconds to introduce myself, say hello. I had every intention of being there this evening in person, but I'm a bit under the weather today. I just wanted to say it's an absolute pleasure to to be the new community development director for Oregon City, and I look forward to working with you all very closely. And the team of the planning department and community development department is absolutely a dream to work with, and so you have a wonderful wonderful team that you've already been working with, and I hope to just add on to it. So I look forward to meeting you all in person soon, and I hope you

all have a great meeting tonight.

Thank you, Kelly. We feel the same way. We think our staff is just the greatest, and, they're extremely helpful. And we're looking forward to, getting started on some of the new newer policies, housing, and other kinds of things that are coming around the bend.

There's plenty of it out there.

Thank you, guys. Does anybody have any other comments?

Well, I just must say that you're an exact twin of a very old friend of mine. I couldn't believe it when I saw you on the screen.

Well, that's been so I bring a very good friend to see it.

Well, she's a very nice person, so.

Good. Anything else? Any any other comments? Okay. With nothing further, we will go ahead and take any public comments at this point. Is there anybody that is interested in making a public comment that is not related to the items that are listed on the agenda this evening? Hearing none, we will, start with the public hearings. And I believe that we have, three items tonight. We have two annexations and one comprehensive plan amendment and zone change. And I believe what we will do is take the two annexations in a in a a presentation together, and we'll open up the public hearings separately on each and and, and vote on each one separately.

But we'll we'll have the have the two of them presented at the same time, I think. So, I think that these are quasi judicial land use hearings, so I need to read the spiel, correct, for that? Now and I need to read this I would like to just read the spiel for the two of them if

I could.

You can do it for all three for once, and we can do, ex parte, contact conflict of interest, and visit the site Yeah. For each

Before each one? Yeah. Okay. That's that works. Alright. I'm getting a nod from Carrie, so that's that's fine. Public hearings on land use applications are scheduled for tonight, and our role is to conduct the public hearing and to make decisions about the matter before us. In making those decisions, we have to apply applicable codes and laws, and we cannot vary from this change in those codes or laws. A staff report has been prepared for each application and has been made available to the public seven days before the first public hearing. The staff report identifies the approval criteria that apply to each applicant's proposal.

Staffs analyze the criteria with criteria which are contained in the report. The hearing procedure that the Planning Commission will follow is set out in state law in the Oregon City Municipal Code, and the hearing procedure steps are shown in the planning commission website. All the testimony will be called in the order that it was requested. If you wish to testify in person, please fill out a speaker slip. It looks kind of like this.

And and if you wish to testify virtually, you will be called either from a request to speak email to city staff or in advance of this meeting, or by raising your virtual or physical hand when I ask if there are any others in the audience who would like to participate in the cyber world. For public public record, please begin all testimony stating your name and the city of residence. If you would like to receive a copy of the notice of decision, please state your mailing address or email address in that testimony. Testimony and evidence should be directed toward the applicable approve approval criteria. And if you believe other criteria apply in addition to those addressed in the staff report, identify and discuss those criteria and explain how and why you believe those criteria apply to the application under consideration.

Any person may submit written material why the public record is open on each application, and any written materials received by the city staff during the time period in which the record is open will be placed in the record. Written materials submitted during the public hearing must be presented to the city staff in order to become a part of the record. If a person intends for a PowerPoint presentation, reports, pictures, or other exhibits used in their oral testimony to be placed in the record, copies need to be submitted to city staff while the record is still open. If they're not given to staff, they will not be included in the record. Any person wishing to continue wishing a continue a continuance to present additional evidence and testimony or keep or to keep the record open to respond to new evidence must make that request before the public testimony portion of the initial hearing is closed.

If the planning commission makes a decision with which you disagree, any issue that you may wish to appeal must have been raised before the planning commission in order to be considered by the city commission and in the event of a further appeal to the Land Use Board of Appeals. Without raising the issue on the record or with sufficient detail and accompanied by statements or evidence allowing the city and all parties to respond, the issue will not be considered on appeal. In addition to participating orally or in writing or raising all issues during the planning commission proceeding, the filing of an appeals an appeal must be include required fee. A city recognized neighborhood association may request a waiver of an appeal fee subject to the requirements set forth in o c m c fifth seventeen fifty one ninety c five and seventeen fifty two ninety c. In addition, addition, failure of an applicant to raise constitutional or other issues relating to the proposed conditions of approval with sufficient detail to allow the local government or its designee to respond, the issue precludes an action for damages in circuit court.

Now I will go ahead and open the record for GLUA250017 and as well, GLU250035, A N 25001 And 2, the annexations for 19717 Leland Road and 19530 Central Point Road. Now, I want to ask if there are any any conflicts or biases. Have you guys, visited the site at all? Any ex parte contacts? Hearing none, I will go ahead and move forward with the, presentation.

Alright. Thank you, chair Espey. Next slide. Alright. We have two properties this evening, that are emergency annexations, which means both of them this last spring, realized that they were not able to, repair their failing septic and would need to hook up to city sewer services.

So with emergency annexations, we get folks hooked up to our city sewers. They get their permit. They coordinate with, Clackamas County Plumbing for the inspection on their property. They work with our public works department to get the lateral in our right of way, and then we move forward with the kind of administrative annexation process, after we get them set up. So both of these properties already have their sewers hooked up, and now we're moving forward through the annexation process.

So annexations, are not subject to the hundred and twenty day state land use deadline. They are analyzed by, chapter 14, which is under our annexation chapters. Type four decisions are reviewed by the planning commission, and a and a recommendation is given to the city commission. Right now, we have a tentative date of December 17 for the city commission meeting for this proposal. Next slide.

The emergence as I mentioned, the emergency annexation request, the properties had a failed septic system. Both lots received city services this summer. The annexation approval brings these lots within the city limits. No zone change is requested at this time, so these properties will remain f u 10, which is our future urban 10 acre. It's the holding zone when you're inside the urban growth boundary, and no development is proposed as part of this project.

Next slide. Alright. So these properties are, they touch existing, city boundaries, so that's the first step. They do not create any islands, and they have access to, city frontages. So you'll see the property on the left is the AN 2502, which is the Central Point. It's about, they're both about half acre properties. We have $19,006.60 for the Central Point and about $20,008.34 for the Leland Road property. Next slide. Here's some photos of Google Street Shoe going, the Central Point property, and the Leland property. Next slide.

Both properties, have ability to to annex, sewer. As I mentioned, the, you'll see the red arrow shows the existing, city sewer main and, where they're hooked up for their laterals. So each property had, each one had a small unique back story, and I wanted to bring both up if there are any questions. The property on Central Point actually has a oh, Scalinger Way. Sorry.

So Scalinger Way, when the the subdivision to the west of it was platted, it was realigned because Scalinger and Central Point was a misaligned intersection. So we wanted to make sure that we had, an intersection across the street where they two lined up. So we had that portion of Skellinger Way would need to be vacated at some time. And so the applicant did move forward with the city commission this fall to move forward on the vacation of that part of Skellinger Way, and that actually was moved forward and has been approved. So that will be attached to, the the applicant's property.

And there is also a Tracked B B that was part of a which is right at the the new Skellinger orientation, and that was part of a previous the previous subdivision. And at some point, that could all be, combined together. But once again, the Skellinger Way and the Track B are inside the city limits today. The property to your right, also, the property when they went through the process to get their legal description, they realized they had a very small little sliver of their property that was actually given to them by their next door subdivision annexation or their subdivision when it came in, Lindsay Ann Estates, when it came in for development. It was, it was a remainder piece, and they actually gave it to this property.

So that little sliver is actually already in city limits. So when this property gets annexed, the the applicants will move forward and combine the little remainder section into their, tax log. Took a couple months, but we figured it out, and that little sliver is inside the city. Next slide. So this is a big list of the annexation factors. You don't have to read them if you have any questions. All the findings to why this application meets the annexation factors can be found in the staff report. Some of the big ones involved access to all your utility services. They're not proposing a development at this time. They are well within the city.

They're not in any boundary that would provide require to have additional analysis. Both properties have not had any recent development. They have not cut down any trees as part of this project. So staff, as we move forward and review, excuse me, reviewed all the annexation factors, these these two proposals meet them. Next slide.

So staff has specific recommendations that will move forward to the city commission. When you are annexing into the city, you are removing this property from county level, jurisdiction and sub county districts and bring it to the city. So the list and I'm gonna I don't have my computer with me today. So the for both of these projects, the staff recommends, withdrawing the territory from the county service district for a law enhancement and going into cities, cities, police review, recommends the property removed from River Water District, recommends that the city commission concur with the Tri City Sewer District annexation of the subject properties. So as part of this, the applicant is required to also annex to Tri City Sewer District.

That's an administrative annexation that happens after they are brought into the the city. And that is done through Tri Cities and West at Clackamas County and Natas. And finally, recommend that the applicant record a covenant acknowledging that the development is reviewed for compliance with our code until the zone change is approved. So next. So you have some options this evening.

Recommend approval of the city commission as presented. Recommend approval of the city commission with modified conditions. Deny the proposal and provide revised findings or continue the hearing and request more information. And I have one more slide. So I know we spoke, in the fall when there was a a zone change for on Parrish Road that had been had gone through the same annexation, and the exist the current property owner did not realize that their property was around f u 10 and move forward to try to build an addition onto their property.

But because they were not zoned, our building department couldn't review their building permit. And it kind of brought up that larger question as we have a fair, I wanna say about five to seven properties in the city, kind of Swiss cheese around the city that are f u 10, which means that, if you wanna do any any addition onto your house, you can until such time you're rezoned. So when the Parish Road rezoning went to the city commission, I asked direction of the city commission if they'd like to have a work session at a future date to talk about what, approaches to annexations. Looking forward, is there a way for us to do the transportation planning analysis, rule analysis? We can go back and have zoning brought onto the properties when they're annexed.

Right now, in our zoning code, you are defaulted to the lowest density zone of your comprehensive plan designation, but you have to provide transportation findings to meet the state transportation planning rule. So that's additional funding that a lot of times these applicants who are going through emergency annexation just don't have the funds to do or the will to do because they don't have any development that they wanna do at this time. And and then looking back, is there a way to do a consolidated application to bring these properties that kinda are floating around the city with f u 10 into a city zone? So the city commission did say yes. So we're looking forward to scheduling a spring work session to kinda say what can be done looking back and what can we do looking forward.

Yeah. And I would continue, Christina, to to bang the drum about when you're doing your housing work in the future to look at, yeah, designating or some doing some comprehensive plan mapping in your urban services boundaries so that you have preordained zonings so that you don't run into these problems in the future. So if you have everything all preordained in the in the urban services boundary, all you have to do is automatically assign that zoning once it's annexed. If they wanna change it in the future, then they can, you know, for to higher density or whatever. But I think, you know, when you're doing all of your, buildable lands inventories and finding out how much housing your you know, the city is actually gonna need to meet all the housing requirements, you're gonna need to have a, you know, appropriate zoning for that for that area for that area and the urban services boundary between the city boundary and the urban growth boundary.

And, and so it might not be a bad idea to have all those preordained so that we can just slap the zoning on when we annex.

Yeah. It's definitely something we can look when we are doing our, housing capacity analysis and housing Yeah. Production strategy as we move forward.

Yeah. And then you can make the determination that whatever it is you're annexing is already following the housing requirements too. So you don't have to keep, you know, doing that over and over and over again when you're doing zone changes or other kinds of lighting applications as well.

Just saying.

There are definitely some, small, medium, and larger ways, I think, to go about looking at the

you guys. But Yeah.

I have a question, mister chair. Yeah. You actually had my first question answered by your question. Could you go back to the picture of the map of the two properties? Sure.

I think it's like that one. Yep.

There there was another one that

Tax maps.

There. That one. That that one there. Yeah.

Yeah.

The property

on the right Mhmm.

In the upper corner has a little funny little jog next to that Lot 28, at the intersection of Myrtlewood. What yeah. That little spot there.

Oh, that's

Is is that that a odd right of way or what is?

Yeah. Most likely, the property on the other side has done dedication as part of development. And so since this property, if any development if they come in, they or future owners come in, we would look at what additional right away would be. So that's very common where you see the jogs as properties that have redeveloped. We received the right away we need and properties have not redeveloped. They still are.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That just

The annexation would is not development, so you would not get right away at this time.

Yeah. It it just caught my eye for some reason. Thank you.

Okay. So is there is the applicant here tonight? Did what

We do have both of them. We have the

Oh, question for Stella. Question for Stella. Yeah.

I'm digging back into my memories the last time we had one of these. I couldn't find the code when I looked for it, but my recollection is that the code requires the applicant to apply for annexation. And then once they've applied, they've met their burden to be connected to the sewer. Is that correct?

Yeah. So what how this happens procedurally is we allow the connection to the sewer to occur in the spring, and the permit to final the project is on hold until they submit for their annexation application. Okay. And once both properties were able to should pay the fees and submit it for their annexation application, we were able to take the hold off the final of their sewer permit. So that all happened in, the late spring, early summer.

Gotcha. Can you have them submit both at the same time? Like, the annexation application and the sewer permit?

The sewer permit

one package?

The sewer permit is we're just working with public works.

Yeah.

So, usually, you're just trying to get that you're trying to get the those two folks hooked up for a a a, you know, for a life safety situation. And then once we received a complete, application, then we move forward to to schedule the hearing and get through. And it's just just taken a little bit this year to

There's lot inside baseball.

I don't

wanna bog that down. But yeah. But they can

get their final without being annexed. It's just their burden once they've applied.

Yeah. Yep.

Thank you.

And it's it's our job now to process that annexation. Dirk?

Yeah. I don't, I don't know if this has ever happened, but I got a question about it anyway. What kind of revised findings would warrant the denial and, extraterritorial sewer connection?

On a staff level or an our annexation factors, that's what you would have to find. So if you wanna go to the slide that has the annexation factors, we actually, move forward on specifying the city commission actually five years ago, four years ago, provided additional clarity on annexation factors. And in some sense, it provided a lot of clarity, but it also provided a lot of clarity. So if you are proposing to move forward and there's something that is not meeting the annexation factors, that could be a a recommendation for a denial. But if it meets all the annexation factors, then that on a on a technical level should be a recommendation for approval.

And each there's gray areas in there, but that's the whole idea is if your project meets the the annexation factors, it should have a recommendation of approval. If it does not or there's a question and you need clarification, that's when you can go into the specificities of one. So let's say someone, clear cutted their property, which was something that the commission was really worried about, where they came in and removed every tree. That was something and that is, as, item number 11 at the very bottom that's is supposed to address that that could be potentially a condition. Now one thing to, remind everybody, an extraterritorial connection still means you're paying your sewer bill to the city of Oregon City, but the city is not getting your property tax or any of the tax rate.

So you're getting actually services that you aren't fully paying for. I mean, you're paying for your your sewer bill, but you're not paying to be a resident of Oregon City.

Yeah. And put your permitting in limbo until you get the Yeah. Property zoned properly so you know what the setbacks are and all that stuff.

Okay. One common question. Anything else? Sorry. Not to belabor too long. I'm assuming that the withdrawal from the Clackamas River Water Districts, they're getting water service from the city.

Yeah. That that occurs because they were getting water service from the city. Yeah.

Just a friendly note on number 12 where it states that it it it has a word left out. It says, should withdrawn. It just should be withdrawn.

Oh, thank you. Yes, ma'am.

You you had it earlier in the report, so I just

yeah. Oh, got it.

K. We the applicants are here for both of these applications. And would, they like to come forward and discuss their application? Or

So we have, annexation a n o one. The property owners on Leland Road are here, and then a n o two on Central Point are available on Zoom.

Very good.

If you wanna press, the button so it goes from red to green, then

Hi. Kurt and Charlotte James with, Leland Road. Welcome. We we don't have any questions.

Okay. Yeah.

If you have any questions or would like to discuss your project further, this is your opportunity, or you can you can decide not to do that. Long process. Yeah. Yeah. Thank goodness we're here. So Okay. Yep. There's question for the applicants.

Do you want to be an extended city? Yes. Okay. Yes. Definitely.

Okay. Thank you very much. Alright.

Thank you. Thank you.

Okay. And for a N 25002, We have the applicant for for Yeah. This is

Ryan Cook. My wife and I, Denise, own that property, and, we appreciate being able to join via Zoom this evening. We're anxious to complete the annexation and and, like I said, moving forward with all the other aspects of connecting with the sewer and such. But appreciate your thoughts and, anxious to get it into the city and move forward.

Welcome, Ryan. Thanks for attending. Do you have any other questions of, staff or the planning commission?

No. They've been tremendous to work with, I'll say. It's been a great team you have there.

Great. Appreciate your help. Does the planning commission have any questions of the applicant? Okay. Hearing none,

we can go ahead and open up

the public hearing. And, are there any questions or comments about, AN twenty five zero zero one? Hearing none, can we hear the roll call? Oh.

Oh, I think we need a motion.

Oh, we need a motion. Right. I'm sorry. Let let me

yeah. Let me, sorry.

Mike's on now. Let me

just add add one thing. The only thing that matters to me is that the applicants are, willingly annexing in, not being forced, that they have no objection to it, and that's that's pretty much all we can ask for. So, with that, I'll make a motion to we would do it one at a time?

Yeah.

I'll make a motion to approve GLUA twenty five zero zero 017 A n twenty five zero zero zero one. Emergency annexation for 19717 Leland Road.

Do have a second?

Second.

Alright. Commissioner Dole?

Aye.

Commissioner Lissau?

Aye.

Commissioner Meining? Aye. Commissioner Schlagehoffer? Aye. Commissioner Stoll?

Aye.

Commissioner Laws? Aye. Chair SB?

Aye. And can I entertain a motion for item b, GIQ8250035AN25002?

Okay. I'll make a motion for that one as well. GLUA2500035AN250002. A motion to approve emergency annexation for nineteen five three zero South Central Point Road. Second.

Alright. Commissioner Laws? Aye. Commissioner Stoll?

Aye.

Commissioner Slagenhofer?

Aye.

Commissioner Meining? Aye. Commissioner Hussal? Aye. Commissioner Dole? Aye. Chair SB? Aye.

Aye. Think I said that. Yeah. K. Ready for the next one?

I am.

Okay. So item

c both.

Thank you.

Yep. Thanks very much. So we have item c, GLUA twenty five zero zero four two, c p a twenty five zero zero one, c c twenty five zero zero zero three, zone change, conference of plan amendment at 214 Tumwater Drive And 313 2nd Street. Do we have a staff presentation?

I do. Before you start that, maybe you can do a quick contact Oh, okay. Of interest poll.

Right. Has anybody visited the site, and are there any conflicts or biases about this application? Contact.

I'm gonna go through them since we're here. No conflict of interest. No ex parte contact. I looked at the site on Google Maps just to try to get a feel for it, and I got no issues with it.

So anybody else? That's that presentation.

Oh, do you have anybody we can do other folks? Or

Should we go around? Oh, okay. Conflict. No ex parte. I drive by the site almost every day, so I'm familiar with it. I have no issue.

No bias. No conflict of interest, no ex parte,

and I've driven by the properties.

I, as well, have no bias, no conflict, no ex parte, just drive by

it every now and again.

Yeah. No, bias. No conflict of interest. No ex parte contact, and I drive by it

three or four times a week. I drive I drive by it every day on my way to work. I don't have any conflicts either.

Commissioner Laws?

Okay. Thank you. I have no bias, no ex parte contact, no, no conflicts. Thank you.

It's hard when I don't see your picture on the screen. I I forget about the that the other folks in the are on Zoom. Alright.

Thank you. So this is a rezone and comprehensive plan map amendment for two properties. Next slide. Just a reminder, please say this is the same slide as last time, but instead of chapter 14, we are looking at chapter 17.68 zoning changes and amendment. So this is a planning commission recommendation to the city commission. Next slide. I'm gonna read this this way because I can't see that far away. So, just to give a little overview, these are two properties that the Urban Renewal Agency owns. And in May, the Urban Renewal Agency directed staff to make preparations to sell two of the properties that they own. Both of these are currently being leased.

These homes were purchased in 2007 and rezoned in 2008 for a public project that was never developed. Rezoning the parcels back to their previous r 3.5 zoning designation is really needed before they can be put on the market. No development is proposed with this application. And the urban renewal agency's goal is to provide housing to low to moderate income families or individuals thereby offering affordable home ownerships to those who would otherwise be unable to overcome the current housing market barrier. The one thing I do wanna kind of separate tonight is the urban renewal agency and the city commission, you know, have a pretty ambitious goal to try to find homeowners that are either first time home first time homeowners or homeowners that are in a more restricted income bracket.

It's not that that's not necessarily a land use analysis to put you know, specific, income requirements on who they might sell the property to. So I like to provide this as kind of a background information. But as we move forward on the presentation this evening, we're really looking at the two parcels and the land appropriateness to to rezone back to r 3.5. Not necessarily kind of what the city commissioner, the urban renewal agency is looking at in regards to, you know, what would they sell it for, what are their income ideas of who they're gonna so you'll notice that there are no conditions of approval on this annexation I'm sorry. Excuse me.

On this zone change and comprehensive plan map amendment because we're looking at the land use base, the property basis of it, and is it appropriate to be rezoned to r 3.5 and medium density residential. Next slide. So this is a zoning map, showing the existing conditions. You'll see the two properties, at 313 2nd And 214 Tumwater Drive in the blue. That's the institutional zone.

So it's a quasi public comprehensive plan map amendment map designation and institutional for zoning. The properties surrounding it is r 3.5 zoning and medium density residential. And these properties were previously zoned R 3.5. And once again, when the city, purchased it, a lot of the properties in 2008 were rezoned that were city owned to the, quasi public and institutional zone. It was not necessarily these specific properties, but when we did our citywide kind of rezoning as part of our updates to our comprehensive plan, we looked at different city owned properties and kind of came up with a new institutional zoning designation.

Next slide. This shows 314 Tumwater, and then the the building on the right is actually 2nd Street. So you can see it around the corner at 2nd Street. Next slide. This shows, really is what the heart of our mixed use downtown mixed use area to the edge of our regional center has access to public transit.

It has access to parks and utilities. About every list you could have for a city amenity, it has quite close connection to. Next slide. So the seventeen sixty eight approval criteria are on your slide up here. And for the most part, we reached out to ODOT.

They didn't they saw it as no change in impact to their system. Transportation letter is available in your packet. Once again, it's kind of a too small properties do not have a dramatic change on the impact of our transportation system. And really bringing most importantly, bringing two new properties that can be brought on the tax rolls and as well as add opportunities for homeownership meets not only our comprehensive plan designation, our housing needs analysis from 2021, but also really the some of the intent of goal 10 and our metro housing rule, which is to provide housing opportunities, in mixed use areas that are connected to transit and places where we want to put people. So it's really meeting the the goal, the 10, the spirit.

There are two it is leased out by two, there are two tenants in there today, and I know that, James Graham, who's here this evening on behalf of their renewal agency, has reached out to the property both property excuse me, both tenants, And he will talk a little bit about the process that he goes through, to meet Oregon tenant laws and and notifying and to see if they wanna purchase the potentially purchase the property. So I'll let him speak on kind of that end. A little less land use, more background as two city owned properties. But I'm available here if you have any questions. I think we have one more slide.

So generally, kind of as a staff's recommendations, the city is not really in a position to be a long term landlord for properties now that this project is not moving forward for a city project, the city really is not set up to be a landlord for for, properties. Return these to the tax roll in constant efforts to sell to low and moderate income families is definitely, a good goal. And, generally, the zone change comp comp plan map amendment should not be conditioned. Conditions would need to be proportional, have a nexus to the proposal, and be consistent with the approval criteria, and really be site based rather than ownership based. So, we generally don't recommend conditions on a zone change or conference plan, map amendment because Whatever.

That is moving forward. It's not tied to development, and you don't wanna tie something to the land that's not related to development. So staff is not proposing any conditions with this application. Excellent. Yep.

Are there any questions with staff? Okay. Yep.

So same options for you this evening.

So now There's a few questions. Oh, right. Right. Yeah. No. Oh, I'm sorry.

I'm looking at the, GIS map. I I see the the sewer lines. What do we know about the, sewer connections? Because I'm not seeing I'm not seeing laterals marked for those two properties. Are they properly connected to the sewer? I'm assuming those are the laterals laterals because because the the 221177 red line, that one's accurate because I know that connection. That used to be my house.

Oh, nice.

Oh, wow. Yeah. So that's a easement. I know that sewer line, but I don't see connections for those bottom two. So I'm just curious where those connect. Do they connect down below, and why are they not marked?

That's a good question.

I mean, I can't imagine We

do know public works syndicated they were connected, so that's why I Yeah. I also am looking at the map. So, let me take a look actually why while you, while our applicant is up and can answer questions, and I'll take a look and see if I can find additional information.

Okay. Great. Thank you. Yeah.

I would I would think that that would be a requirement of the sale if it's if they're not connected. I have a question. Has a comparison been done between the income, the tax rental income, which would be the most advantageous for the city?

In what way? Can you

explain Well, you have you have

a rental income now. Oh,

right. Right.

And if these properties are sold, then you would get a tax income, which you're not getting now.

Correct.

So which would be the most advantageous to the city, the tax income or the income from the rental?

Sure. And that's a great question I've stayed out of in regards to the land use application because that's a great question for our applicant, James Graham, because it's a policy question rather than a a rezoning question, if that makes sense.

Yeah.

Yeah. So I that's a great question you can ask, James Graham when he gets up.

Alright. And just for my own curiosity, what was the public project that these were purchased for?

So for a number of years, there was a thought to potentially bring folks to see Willamette Falls down to the dam when the mill was still open as a functioning mill. And with the mill closed and a new revitalization effort went, you know, initially with a public project and now with Tumwater Village, You can access the falls from the ground, from actually the, you know, in the long term through Main Street, through public access rather than having to take a like a gondola down from where we are up on Tom Water. Things change a lot, you know. If you never thought the mill was gonna close, you're looking at different ways to access Yeah. A property you thought was closed off forever.

So this was intended to be the top of the tram?

Yeah. Oh,

interesting. I mean, that would have been kinda cool, honestly, but that's alright.

But it was never adopted. It that's not wasn't a city project. It was kind of still in its infancy stage.

K. Any other questions? So R 3 is a high density zoning. Right? Medium density.

Is it? Yeah. R 2 is high density. Okay. Alright. So R 3.5, R 5, it's your medium density residential. Just like our low density allows all your middle housing opportunities.

So that gives you that gives you like, you know, the raw land gives you like 25 to 30 dwelling units an acre as far as

Yeah. But it's a very small property in there. Yeah. Two existing homes. So, you know, if for some reason it

I mean, it's not an acre of land, but I'm I'm just saying, you know, that proportionality, you you know, if you did townhouses or something

like that. Well, these are 3,500 square feet lots.

You'd have additional, you know, you'd have additional

Yeah. So if for some reason

Tensity for that

one to redevelop, you'd probably, you know, do middle housing at at most on it.

Right. Right. So that would be I mean, that would be something you'd wanna talk about, I guess, maybe. I don't know.

Okay. And one thing just to remind everybody, when you are institutional, that's a preexisting nonconforming Yeah. Designation. So that's one of the big reasons why the this this has to be rezoned because you don't wanna be selling property to a new first time homebuyer maybe. And then you have a preexisting nonconforming, you know, law zone, and so the bank may look at it oddly, you know, looking at how you're gonna get your mortgage coming to the planning division. Like, okay. Can I add a can I add on to my kitchen? Can I you know, we what can you add on to when you have a nonconforming zone? It's a lot easier to buy a property with the zoning permitted, and then you can go forth and be treated like everybody else in your block.

That sounds great. Well, let's hear from the applicant. Find out what's what's happening behind the scenes with this.

Good evening, members of the planning commission, staff, counselor. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm James Graham, economic development manager of Oregon City. And, these I'm so glad to know that most of you, if not all of you, are familiar with this property because you've driven by them every day or have seen them. These properties, have a very interesting background as you a history and hopefully a hopeful future. But, if it were not for the closing of the, plant, the wood plant, I think, the paper plant below, these houses probably would have been torn down a long time ago, and a gondola would have been put up.

So that's a that's a whole different story in the background. But these homes are very old, and the two the house the property was built the property of 214 South Tumwater Drive was built in 1935. And and the property the other one at 313 South 2nd Street was built in 1925. So it's been a it's been a while. And so this the idea is that, as you know, housing is very expensive.

It's it's it's certainly expensive in Oregon City. And really really what we want to do is make our contribution or make a contribution to increasing the housing stock in the city. And, hopefully, I'd like to see first time home buyers, owners occupy their home, but we definitely wanna sell it to someone that could benefit from these properties. So what we've already done is we've had a a home inspection of both properties to see what's going on because there's I'm sure there's a lot well, there was a lot that we didn't know about in with regard to these properties. We will do we'll have an appraisal of these properties started and completed, and then we will look at selling the properties.

Now the, it was my impression from our property management company that the tenants had been advised of our intentions, but, one of the tenants have just mentioned to me tonight that they were not advised, and so therefore, I will rectify that tomorrow with the property manager. But, but they should have been advised months ago so that we will take care of that. With regard to, the process by which we'll take, we'll we'll put it on the open market, to hopefully to well, not hopefully, but to sell to individuals who were who could, use that property and and live in that property and and, enjoy that property and become wealthy as a consequence wealthier as consequence of being homeowners. So, that's, that's our process. That's why our goal, and that's our strategy for those problems.

Very good. Anything else? That's all. Thank you very much. Thank you.

I'd like to have my Yes. Previous question answer. Yeah. Have you analyzed what would be the most advantageous to the city in regards to income? Would you get more in your tax rolls by selling them or would you get more money for the city by continuing to rent them? We would get more with regard to the property being on the tax roll

because the rent toll on these properties are well below market rate. And so therefore, that's that's that's what we expect.

Good. Anybody else? Any other questions? Alright. And yes. Christina.

Yeah. I just wanted to I was I went back and read the staff report, the portion that our public works department helped with. It's, they identified that the services were available, which is kind of the analysis you do when you are looking at a zone change. So I think I believe it's hooked up. But for a zone change analysis, your goal is to say, are there services available, which was the level that we put our findings for. So I can't definitively say yes or no. But for this purposes, are you are showing that you wouldn't have to extend a service line. You could Yeah. You know, there's nothing stopping from redevelopment.

Exactly. I think for the purposes plan amendment, it's a pretty broad test. And so whether or not it's connected is pretty immaterial as to whether or not the service can be provided, which it can be. So that's probably okay, I would think.

One one little thing to add. Yeah. So let's say let's say it lots of scenarios. Let's say it was a party sewer. Would the city put that in, or would that be a term would it be a a condition condition of sale to for the new owners to have a connected because I don't think it's legal to sell a property that's not properly connected to the sewer, is it? Would the city have to fix that first? Well, we wouldn't want to

we wouldn't want to do that. We wouldn't want to sell a property that where the where the basic fundamentals are not in place.

Okay. So if we found out it was a party sewer, you'd you'd fix that before you stuck someone with that problem. And and or it's no. This is up to

the city. There are actually, city commission. Oh, no. Urban realm urban renewal commission. They will have to make that decision. But Okay. So that I will leave it up to them for to make that kind of decision. I I don't wanna step in.

I don't wanna go ahead of

Okay. Yeah. I it's really not none of our business, but I just wanna, you know, make let it be known that party sewers are popular in that area. It there's more than one. Just so you know. Just so it's out in the open. Alright. Thank you.

Any other questions from the commission? Hearing none, is there anybody from a neighborhood association that is interested in speaking tonight? Okay. And I have one, comment form here from from Kayla Bingham. Would you like to come up and, discuss? Thank you. You bet.

Good evening. It's actually pronounced Kaylia Bingham,

but I'm used to it.

So no no offense to I have a letter, and I apologize that this letter might not be best suited for you guys because this is my first meeting that I'll be attending about the property.

I might need

one of these. Good evening. Good evening. My name is Kaylia Bingham. I'm a tenant at 214 Tumwater Drive, where my husband and I have been raising our family since 2020.

I've lived in Oregon City my entire life, and my children are fifth generation residents of Oregon City. I feel incredibly lucky that we've been able to grow up that they've been able to grow up in the same safe, connected community that shaped me. Our neighborhood is special to us. Our school is cherished, and this community is our home. When the community action notice was posted in our yard, it brought a lot of fear and uncertainty into our home.

This is the only house that my kids have ever really known, and the thought of being uprooted from our routines, our memories, and our stability is heavy. The unknown is hard, especially when you're trying to keep life steady for young children.

Excuse me.

A move like this would impact every part of our daily lives, school, sports, routines, and the sense of security that we've built for our family. With the current current housing market, the financial impact to our family would also be significant. It would not just be a change of address for us. It will impact how we're able to provide for our children and how we're able to stay connected to the community that supports them. I understand that renters don't always have a lot of say in decisions like these, and I'm not here to challenge this process.

What I hope to do tonight is simply be visible as someone who is directly impacted to share my family's story and to ask for clear communication and consideration as things move forward in the process. Small updates about timelines, expectations, or even available resources would make a meaningful difference as we prepare for what may be a very difficult transition. I apologize. This home has been the center of our life for the past half decade. It has given my children stability, comfort, and a sense of belonging.

Losing that stability is daunting, and I wanted to make sure that my voice and the reality of my family situation is seen and understood. Thank you for allowing me to share this with you tonight, and thank you for the opportunity we've had to call 214 Tom Werner Drive, our home.

Thank you, Kalia. Thank you for coming tonight. So I think that we need to look at the criteria that's related to the zone change. And then also, the I would suspect that the urban renewal agency would need to be sensitive to the issues that are going on, with the residents of the property and do their best to meet their needs.

One thing you could do if you wanna make your land use recommendation, you could make that. And if you wanna make if you wanted to staff to forward on a general comments

Yeah.

Outside of land use, I'd be more than happy to do that as part of my presentation

to the city commission. I guess I'm a little concerned that that there wasn't any notification of this process until when were you notified, Kayleigh, about

So the

notice Sorry. The places Kayleigh, sorry. Come on. We just have everything on

Come on. I've got recording. Sorry. A couple of questions, a couple of follow ups. Yeah.

Problem.

When were you notified?

I have not spoken with the actual property management at any point in time about this. I only have been informed due to the community notice

Okay. Okay. So so it's probably a situation where where your property owner was notified, but you that that notification didn't get passed on to you as a tenant,

which I There was an inspection at some point, and I was trying to locate the notice to share, but I couldn't locate it. I I must have a physical copy. I don't think they might not have emailed it to me, but I am 99% sure that that notice has doesn't say anything about selling the home. It said the property owners have have an inspector coming to do an inspection on the property. Okay. It was very, very vague, and we we allowed them in the home. We weren't home at that time. So, I mean, maybe he my husband may have been home, like, just to let him in, but then he we don't know what happened after that. We didn't get an inspection report either. So I have been curious about

what's going Yeah. This sort of makes me drill down into the into the procedural aspect of this because my question my next question would be that normally, you notify the property owner Well, the tenant. And tenant.

Is that correct? Well, the urban renewal agency The is the property owner. Is property owner. And so the property owner and the tenant were note I mean, under so I think there's two different things. Right? Yeah. There's the land use process where we went through the normal land use process and we we mailed to property owners and the tenants.

And the tenants.

I think this is a secondary thing which is when the urban renewal agency as the property owner

Yeah.

Moves forward to indicate to a tenant. This is more of a tenant these are tenant laws Right. Which is separate from Right.

And that's what I'm trying to do is cleave the zone change process with the process associated with the urban renewal and notifying their tenants as to what the next use of the property would be.

Yeah. So and and because James Graham is on behalf of the applicant there at Marina. I just wanna bring James up here again.

What's the first name? Talia and I had a discussion about this earlier, and I she just informed me that she was not told by our property management company, which I informed our property management company weeks or actually months ago to let the tenants know. Yeah. That was so that's an an I mean, that happened in terms of our direct to the our directive to the prop to the property management company. Now what they did with that directive, they assured me, they told the tenants.

But Delia has just mentioned to me that she didn't got she didn't get a a notification. So that's why I mentioned earlier that I will rectify that tomorrow. Okay? But rest assured that we follow procedure with the appropriate procedure with regard to our intent on this property. Alright. So, obviously, we're here to discuss the zoning.

Yeah. So that'd be great to work with Kaylia, you know, further further along in this process. And then we can move forward with the the zone change deliberations. Thank you, Kaelia. Thank you for coming in this evening.

Okay. Are there any other public comments on this item? Hearing none, I will go ahead and close the public hearing, and, we can go to deliberation. Is there any are there any comments that any other commissioners would like to make on this item?

Could we get the

date for the next urban renewal agency meeting where it would be brought up that maybe, the tenant would have a record of when to go if we know that? I mean, like, the the statement that was made better suited to go to the yes.

Do you have the next date for their renewal commission meeting? Yes. It's a Wednesday. Okay. Which is we're in the

same seventeen scheduled. Date.

Thank you, mister Graham.

Alright. Thank you. Okay. Anybody else? Hearing none, I'd like to entertain a motion on the item.

Do we have a motion?

I'll move to make a motion, to approve. It's a it's not to approve or is it to Recommend. Recommend approval to city commission, regarding GL UA twenty five forty two zone change and comprehensive plan amendment CPA twenty five zero one. Comprehensive change twenty five zero three.

Alright. Commissioner LaSalle.

I'm going to vote no because

I'm

comparing the bean counter in my mind versus my compassion on disrupting lives.

Okay. I mean, realize that okay. Okay.

Well, I have a comment. Yep.

We have a motion. Do we

have a second? Yeah. We Yeah. We have a second. I second. Okay. Commissioner Vining.

Yeah. Forgot if you're wrong. Sorry.

Yeah. I just, not I'm not arguing with the motion or the second. I just wanted to say a couple things before we vote.

We can someone can retract the motion?

No. It's fine. I think that this the motion of the second can stay on the table. I think if commissioner Schlagehoffer wants to make a comment, he can, and we'll just hold on the Okay.

Yeah. I just wanted to hold on the vote and just make a make a comment that, you know, there's a lot of things about this that seem wrong. It has nothing to do with the vote nor how I'm gonna vote. But we're here to decide if the zoning change for those two properties makes sense. That's what we're here for. What happens at the urban renewal level, what happens at the city commission level may address the concerns we've got for the tenants, their future, but we're here to decide on the zoning change, and that's what we're voting on.

Okay. I just want did I get commissioner mining? Aye. Okay. Commissioner Schlagehoffer? Aye. Commissioner Stoll?

Aye.

Commissioner Laws? Aye. Chair SB? Aye. K.

And is there, this can be your time. If there's anything you wanna pass on to the Submit Commission, you can do that through discussion. I'm more than happy to have that as a comment I can add to a presentation. So if there's It might be helpful if there's something you wanna pass on, you could discuss it with with yourselves and then provide me kind of a unified comment back. Can I say a comment? Yes.

So we're talking about affordable housing Mhmm. And we're talking about giving people an opportunity, and we're talking to this lady about this has been her home for five years. So if they are talking about selling the property and looking at affordability, maybe they could give her an opportune to And, you know, obviously, having a price point that they need to require to, you know, sell it for because realistically and, obviously, there's a certain amount that they have to make, and I understand that. But maybe they need to offer it to her first before they put it on the market because it's been her home. And, you know, they can obviously figure out what they need to list it for, you know, minimally or, you know, to make a profit.

But Mhmm. Maybe that they need to offer to her first and see if it's something that she could actually maybe budget for because it's been her home for at least a half a decade. And, you know, at least offer it to her out of kindness. And then the other thing would be, you know, I mean, maybe there's more time that these people could transition, you know, that live there because of the fact that they haven't had any warning. Maybe there could be more of a transition time because of this for some grace, you know, and some compassion, especially now that this is happening during the holidays.

Anyways, that's just some of my thoughts and, you know, that they deserve some compassion. So thank you.

Those are great comments, and I agree.

Alright. I will forward those on kind of as nonland use comments from the

planning commission. Okay. Thank you very much. Yeah. Are there any, any other messages or information?

I have, I'm gonna pass over to our great planning manager, if you, Walter. I don't know if we have too much communication, but I'll give it to him.

Thanks. I I

don't have a lot to say.

Oh, thank you. Yeah. Obviously, we're very happy to have Kelly Hart on board. She started actually, she started three weeks ago, but she had two weeks in Thailand with her public administration program. She's doing a master's in public administration at the same time as she's working full time with Oregon City.

We wish her the best of luck with that. And it was a unanimous decision of our our interview panel to have Kelly come and be our our leader, and we're really excited to have her. On the planning side, we are under we're under contract with a consultant to do our state mandated housing needs analysis, which all cities and counties are now required to do pursuant to the state process. Our we've hired we are contracting with Echo Northwest, And by the 2020, '6, we will have a new housing needs analysis. We did do that fairly recently with the, Oregon OC 2040 comprehensive plan update process, so it'll build on on that work.

And then the new requirement for the city to adopt a housing production strategy will come on the heels of that housing needs analysis, and that has to be adopted by the 2027. So we're gonna be having work sessions with you all and the city commission to go through this process fairly soon in 2026 and keep you informed about that along the way. Okay?

Thank you.

Yeah. We get to be one of the first cities to meet the new regulations on. It's a housing capacity analysis because we have to change the names just to keep us all on our toes and housing production strategy. So we are also gonna be you know, we're all learning together. And, you know, what's different in this round is we do have state allocated housing numbers, right, that come out of the state the state's their own housing capacity analysis. And so we are looking at our you know, what we did five years ago and you know, which basically said we are doing a pretty good job for zoning of land of different densities. Mhmm. We all are not meeting our needs for affordable housing of all different categories.

Right.

And so we'll see how that kind of works into the these new numbers and how we reconcile that. You know what? I think the pieces, the housing production strategy is how are we as a city reducing barriers

Yeah.

To bringing housing in, and and those are land use and non land use based tools. So that is really a collaboration of land use and our city commission looking at fiscal tools that could reduce barriers for housing. So that's kind of part two after we look at the part one, which is what is our capacity and can we build those numbers that are assigned to us at a state level.

And that includes the production strategies too. Right?

Right. Well, so it's it's two phases. Right? So we have a grant to do this first one, which is the the housing capacity analysis. Do we have have we zoned our land? Do we have the right context? Are are we can we build to the number that we've been identified? And then part two, once we've adopted is, what are the barriers, and then what are the tools that we can use to reduce those barriers?

Mhmm. Yeah. And, yeah, you mentioned are you getting metro funding and DLCD?

Getting DLCD funding, and Echo Northwest and Beth Goodman, who's our project leader, worked with us last round. Mhmm. And they have a pretty strong they have a very strong background on housing capacity analysis, the housing needs, and Beth did a great job last round. So I'm excited to, you know, not have to start anew and to kinda be have a working body of knowledge that we can, you know, start with.

Yeah. That's terrific. Yeah. I'm glad you guys are getting some help for that. Yeah. Alright. Anything else? Alright.

Just curiosity. Are there applicants for I mean, Dirk and I are are done after December. Is there applicants for that, or is there a

So, as I understand it, there is an one application so far for planning commission, but the city commission will be doing the interviews. And I don't have any of the details yet.

So Okay.

So thank you, commissioner Stoll, for bringing that up. Thank you. We might not be meeting before the end of the year. So for commissioner Slagenhofer and commissioner Stoll, I mean, I personally have just really appreciated your questions, your insight, your clarity, all through the years, and I you'll definitely be missed on the on the commission.

You're here.

It's been I have

a question in regard to that. Could they continue on the planning commission until the new people are assigned?

I do not know them, actually.

Do you

know, Carrie? Yeah.

I think we we have had holdovers before. Yes. We we could that that could happen, but I don't know if that's the city's practice.

It's in the charter, isn't it? I think that was charter rule. Yeah. I don't know what sets up. Okay. Are we done?

It's okay. I've had enough. Oh. I'm ready to go. I understand.

I've moved on. I think

given your time.

Thank you very much. Yeah. Yeah.

Thank you.

Thanks, guys. It's a pleasure

working you. Absolutely. Okay. Meeting adjourned.