City Council - Regular Meeting

Good evening, and welcome to the regular meeting of the Oregon City City Commission. Today is Wednesday, January 7, and I'd like to convene the meeting and ask for the roll call, please.

Commissioner Mike Mitchell? Here. Commissioner Rocky Smith? Here. Commissioner Adam Marle? Here. Commissioner Scott Wilson? Here. And mayor Denise McGriff? Present.

So if you are able, please stand and join me in the flag salute. I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation

under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Alrighty. So it's the beginning of the year, and we have our usual item, which is the election of the new commission president. And, as you are aware, everybody has done it. It would have been Scott's turn last year, but he was here for the first time, and he deferred. So I would like to recommend that we appoint Scott Wilson as commission president for the year 2026. We're in the rotation. That's the rotation. Yep. So moved. Second.

Any objection. Now you ask.

282 have an option? No. It's too late now? That's what I mean. Well, it's not

too late. We don't vote.

May I have the motion, please, mister Wiley?

Commissioner Mike Mitchell? Aye. Commissioner Rocky Smith. Aye. Commissioner Adam Marle. Aye. Commissioner Scott Wilson. Aye. And mayor Denise McGriff. Aye. Motion passes.

Alright. Are you ready? We're going to administer the oath of office to you. I was gonna You're ready for the picture already?

Oh, he's he's ready to

Oh my god. He's already changing it. Oh my god. Okay. Just sliding it over.

I know it's Okay. What do you mean chew?

We got through the year without any craziness that I had to, you know

That you had to deal with. Deal with some. I know he put it in here because I saw it, but, like got the

right in time for the next ice storm. Or

I it's the same thing like with Chuck Norris. You don't say anything out loud or

him to manifest something? Or

You out there? Well,

I thought I saw you here. Acting there in the last big ice storm,

and it was a lot.

Oh, I was the mayor during the last big ice storm. It wasn't. Oh. Alright.

The big one, there was no mayor.

Yeah. Got it. Oh, it's in the folder. That's why I couldn't find it. No. I need to get it down here, though, don't I? I thought he has to sign it and notarize it. No. Okay. You can sign it whenever he's in. Okay. Well, it is, my pleasure and honor to, administer the oath of office to you for as commission president. So I that's why we have it here so you can read it. So please start.

I, Scott Wilson, do solemnly swear that I will support the constitution of The United States and the state of Oregon along with the Oregon City Municipal Charter and Code. I will, to the best of my ability, faithfully perform my duties of commission president of Oregon City during my incumbency thereof.

Congratulations. And you do have to sign the black and gray. Think it's in this blue folder. It is. Oh.

The official pen too. Yeah. I'll sign the other one. For me. Yeah. I've signed both of them. He gets one. You get one. Use your best cursive. You want me to fill in the part where it says I, Scott Wilson, or you wanna do that? Either way.

It's up

to you. Okay. Well, I think my printing's better than yours, so I'll do that. He's seen my printing. He's seen my handwriting. Alright. Do we have anybody in the audience, or do we have any co public comment cards for tonight? No. We do not. Alright. So let's move on. Item number four. Let's move to item number five. We don't have any presentations tonight. Number six is adoption of the agenda, and seven is the consent agenda. So is there anything on the agenda on seven a through h that people have concerns about that they want pulled, or do

we have a motion? I'd like to pull item seven b.

Okay. Library outreach vehicle? Alright.

I move to approve the consent agenda minus item seven b. Second. Let's have the roll call, please.

Commissioner Mike Mitchell. Aye. Commissioner Rocky Smith. Aye. Commissioner Adam Marle. Aye. Commissioner Scott Wilson? Aye. And Mayor Denise McGriff?

Aye. Motion passes. Mister Williams, would you like to come up, please? Mister Mitchell, if you please.

Question. Yes. How do we staff this thing? And so And with with what money, I guess, is the question.

Well, we are being very deliberate with what we are terming the vehicle and how we plan to use it. You'll notice that we have never used the term bookmobile. A bookmobile implies that you have a regular route with regular staffing, regular stops, and that's a much larger staffing commitment than we are able to do right now. So what we are considering, this is our library outreach vehicle. So it is going to be what we are using.

We're going to use it in support of our existing outreach activities. And for those kind of activities where we're going out to schools and we're already doing outreach to these places, we are fairly comp we are I am very confident that we have the appropriate staffing to be able to do that. There will be some training to get staff up to be able to drive it and be comfortable driving it, but it is not going to be a significant addition to staffing resources to use this vehicle in support of a lot of the outreach that we're already doing. It will make our outreach more efficient. It will allow us to reach a larger number of people with the same amount of staffing expenditure, staff resource time, but we are not currently you know, we are not we're being very deliberate about how much we think we can do with the vehicle.

I hope that answers the question.

Okay. You you don't see it as being we're gonna have to have it have another position to

No. Now, you know, in the future, the the community were to say or the commission were to say, hey. We would love you to use this vehicle to do a full bookmobile service, then, yes, we would have to have a discussion of where the resources come for that, you know, staffing resources for that. But, no, we are not going to have any additional staff any additional positions for this. We will staff it and use it entirely with our existing staffing.

Okay. Operational costs and so forth, you've been able

to handle that? Yep. We've got in our budget that was adopted. We've got fuel costs. We've got maintenance costs. We are putting money in towards vehicle reserve with about an eight year eight to ten year replacement schedule so that we are confident we will be able to continue having a vehicle to provide outreach. And, yes, with the anticipated with the anticipated district dollars that we have, we're fairly comp we're confident we're going to be able to afford the maintenance and upkeep and up the vehicle.

Okay. I would given that there you know, money is coming from a lot of different sources. I know there's your foundation has done fundraising the the friends group. So, you know, I'm not gonna make that huge an issue out of this, but but, boy, the price tag really did jump out at me. I realized it's a specialized vehicle, but when I see $5,700 for WiFi, that I I wonder what else is padded in there, you know. It so, you know, the cost bothers me, but I know that a lot of work is going in and and has gone into paying for it from different sources. So and I I think it's a it's a good program. I just

ouch. I I I I share. It it it is a big price tag. I I can assure you that we have we we've shopped around with different vendors. This is what these vehicles go for. It is customized to library usage. There's a lot that goes into it. They you know, the the this I I don't wanna get into weeds, but the shelving and the book carts are all customized. They have partnerships with different companies to make these modular and more efficient, the lift gates and all those things. The the we decided to go with an interstate purchasing cooperative because it it was competitively bid, and they went out.

They did a good job of evaluating, you know, evaluating vendors out there and making sure that as much as possible, we are being very responsible stewards of taxpayer funds.

Okay. Thank you.

You're welcome.

Yes. I just I had the exact same reaction as I was going through this, but I really appreciate it in your staff report the fact that you included those funding sources beyond just the fact that it's the library fund. And that was very helpful to see the grant funding and also the the charitable or the friends group dollars that will be going toward this because I know that there are always conversations conversations during budget season about the right match between what the city invest versus the library district given that we have such a large service area outside of the city limits. And I think that's something you know, I think that's a worthwhile issue to discuss, but I also think that the the way that the city subsidizes county residents for countless services as well is something to take into consideration there. So that's why I have a hard time with that argument, but I do appreciate what this is trying to do and the fact that the it's such a diverse array of funding sources.

So thank you for bringing this.

Thank you. So just on the cheery part side of this, what do you anticipate your first outreach with the vehicle will be besides us christening it or something fun like that? Well, we we've got what we're trying

to do is we are trying to put together in in my brain, I call it a catalog. So a a of kind of organized planned types of outreach events that that we can have. One of them in in in my brain, I call it the early literacy early literacy celebration. That would be going out to schools, bringing our giveaway books, having a story time, having a perhaps performer out there. I I will say getting to take it out with a bunch of kids is probably a great way to christen it.

So we are hopeful that if should this be approved, that the production schedule is going to get it here, hopefully, in time for summer reading, which is another great opportunity to engage with families and kids. The other one that that I personally very much would like to do is we've got a lot of feedback from specifically our farther out areas, bringing technology support out to people who live farther away from the library, teaching them how to use e readers, teaching them how to connect with their digital resources. So we have another course or another thing in our catalog. We're calling it the digital resource roadshow. So that might be the first one, but I kinda think it'll be, you know, something with the kids, something with the school district.

So is it gonna have a really cool wrap on it of some sort?

It should. That's that that that's our goal. We've got

some great artwork that we've used on our book bike that the friends of the library helped us develop and the foundation helped us develop. So we will look at that. We'll probably we'll make sure we have some opportunities for community input to help steer what eventually the wrap on there is. But, yes, we'll we'll make sure it looks pretty.

Good. Look forward to seeing that.

You just really want to be in touch a

truck. Pardon?

Yeah. You just really want

to be in touch a truck. Yeah. Yep.

Now you can touch a library vehicle. Yes.

Yes. You can. And and, you know, teddy bear parade, you know, we started with the we we had a bike this year, so now we can up, you know, up our game.

Because, yeah, this is a great rough last year with the with the inclement weather riding the bike.

Yes. Yes. So

Well, a national night out. So, you know, now we don't need that tent. We're gonna have a big truck

there. So Is it is it gonna have a name as well? I

think it will. I I think, there's a contingent of us at the library who really want it to be Star Wars named, but Denise Butcher, our library operations manager has done the lion's share work on the procurement process, and she has said, no. It's not gonna be Star Wars. So I have respect that. So

Well, you know, the people may speak.

They they they may. They may.

I'll move to approve item seven b. Second.

It's been moved and seconded. Commissioner Mike Mitchell. Aye. Commissioner Rocky Smith. Aye. Commissioner Adam Marle. Aye. Commissioner Scott Wilson. Aye. And mayor Denise McGriff. Aye. Motion passes.

Thank you very much, commissioners. This is a great great thing for the community, great thing for the library. I do appreciate your support.

Alright. Awesome. So tonight, we have two public hearings. So when we I read the item and then I will open the public hearing, and we'll have probably don't need a staff report, but that's up to the commission. I don't think we will since this is the second reading.

So I'd like to open the hearing on the second reading of ordinance number 26 Dash one zero zero one, emergency annexation for 19717 Leland Road. File number GLUA25Dash00017AN25Dash001. Are there any questions, gentlemen? Okay. We don't need really a staff report, I don't think. Correct? Commission? K. Alright. Is there anybody in the audience that would like to testify regarding this, ordinance? Seeing none, we will close the public hearing, and we will ask for the vote.

I move to approve the second reading of ordinance number 26 dash one zero zero one. Second.

Ordinance number 26Dash zeros 1001. Excuse me. An ordinance approving emergency annexation proposal, g L U A 2517 A N 251 and approving the annexation of certain property located at 19717 Leland Road in the city of Oregon City.

Commissioner Mike Mitchell. Aye. Commissioner Rocky Smith? Aye. Commissioner Adam Marle? Aye. Commissioner Scott Wilson? Aye. Mayor Denise McGriff? Aye. Motion passes.

Alright. So I'll open the public hearing for the second reading of ordinance number 26 dash one zero zero two, emergency annexation at 19530 South Central Point Road, file number GLUA2500035, and annexation, file twenty five dash zero zero two. Again, I don't think we need a staff report. Everybody seems to be very happy with that. So, and there's nobody in the audience. So I will close the public hearing, and we will ask for the reading. Do we have a motion and

a second?

Motion Motion

to approve.

Yes. Second reading of Second.

It's been moved and seconded. Ordinance number 126Dash1002. Ordinance

number 26Dash1002, an ordinance approving emergency annexation proposal g l U A 2535 A N 252, and approving the annexation of certain property located at 19530 South Central Point Road to the city of Oregon City.

Commissioner Mike Mitchell. Aye. Commissioner Rocky Smith. Aye. Commissioner Adam Marle. Aye. Commissioner Scott Wilson. Aye. And mayor Denise McGriff.

Aye. Motion passes. Aye. So our third public hearing tonight is a second reading of ordinance number 26 dash one zero zero three. So I will open the public hearing for the second reading of ordinance twenty six one zero zero three, zone change and comprehensive plan amendment for 214 Tumwater Drive, 313 South 2nd Street, file 25 dash zero zero zero four two, CPA 25 dash zero zero one, and zone change 25 dash zero zero three. Are there any questions? And no one here is in the audience to speak on this item. I have a comment. And please make a comment.

So I just wanna point out something in the staff report, which says the URA goal is to provide housing to low to moderate income families or individuals. And I still I've said this several times. I I don't believe we've officially made that declaration that that is our goal. I think it's a laudable goal, but and it's something that we've tossed around. But given the information that we've recently we received about the condition of those properties and the investments it will take to make them to make us not be slumlords, I'll say.

It it would be difficult, I think, to try and turn that into an affordable opportunity on our part with that investment that's going to be required. So not to say that this isn't an avenue we won't go down, but I just have concerns with, with that verbiage that's in there. Recognizing that that doesn't impact what we actually passed tonight, but wanting to clarify intent.

Thank you for that very thoughtful comment.

Yep. And we're zoning them to r 3.5? Yes. Okay.

Is there a motion, please?

Move to approve the second reading of ordinance number 26 dash one zero zero three. Second. Been moved and seconded.

Ordinance number 26 dash one zero zero three, an ordinance approving a comprehensive plan map amendment and zone change proposal, number g l u a twenty five forty two, c p a twenty five one, and z c twenty five three of certain property located at 214 Tumwater Drive and 313 South 2nd Street.

Commissioner roll call, please.

Commissioner Mike Mitchell. Aye. Commissioner Rocky Smith. Aye. Commissioner Adam Marle. Commissioner Scott Wilson? Aye. And mayor Denise McGriff? Aye. Motion passes.

Alright. So that is all of our public hearings for tonight, and, we're moving a lot of these things forward, particularly those annexations and making sure that the sewer is all working, which it is. So, do we have anything under general business tonight? No. How about communications?

We do I do not have anything tonight.

I know everybody read it, but just under communications, maybe we should just briefly so we have a a a letter that we've approved that I will sign on behalf of the Grand Ronde for their, grant review. And I just, you know, wanna say that it's really important that we continue this great partnership we have with them to move help them move their project forward. I think it's really important, and I hope that our letter helps them get there. It will be very, very important, particularly as involving transportation and streets. So commissioners, besides all of your fabulous fortunes that you got tonight, any communications?

Speaking of transportation Yes.

If I may. Please. And I know that most of us have already seen this news, but just for since I've been talking about it as the saga has gone on, the governor has announced that she is calling for a repeal to her transportation package in the short session. And yeah. The the after after after the A little bit at?

After the initiative petition to refer it to the November ballot, easily qualified, I think it sent a shiver down some of our leaders' backs maybe. And so the concerning thing about a full out a full stop repeal is that there were positive things in that legislation apart from the taxes and the fees was there were some accountability measures for ODOT, and there was a complete removal of tolling language from Oregon statute. And so, obviously, the devil will be in the details for what they actually remove if they move to repeal it. But, yeah, I just wanted to make sure people were aware.

I guess, do you think that there is anything that we can do as a commission to urge our state representative and our state senator when that comes up if it comes up for a vote, which I suspect it will, that we could say that we would like them to repeal, you know, we take repeal leave the parts in about the tolling and the other issues that we have concerns with at the city here because that's one of my biggest concerns is, you know, that we got that in there, and we've all worked hard for the last six years trying to make sure that this did not happen to our community and other communities without some full review. And then there's the accountability issue, which is really one of my big concerns as well and also as representative Hartman's in terms of making sure that there was some sort of provision for auditing and accountability. And all of that kinda goes out the window. I think for me personally and professionally, what bothers me about the two things that have happened is that there's been nothing proposed. So what do we do now?

I particularly think about our counties East Of The Cascades where they have rely heavily on the Oregon Department of Transportation. And if there are layoffs and pending, I'm talking about livability, I'm talking about safety that is going to be in jeopardy. And, you know, I don't even wanna think about the possible lawsuits that could come from this with with the fact that we aren't gonna be able to plow roads or have things done to make sure our roads are safe. And there's just so many things that ODOT does that people don't always see or recognize that they do that I'm just I'm bothered by the whole thing. So I hope this isn't just oh, So excuse me for one second.

I would add that the initiative petition was only targeting the taxes and the fee increases, and it left many of the good parts of that bill that I just referenced. And so if that's something that we want to be able to do, then we should urge our representatives to allow us to vote on it because clearly there was an appetite for that when they collected way more signatures than they needed to qualify for the ballot in a very short amount of time.

So I'm just I'm I've should we is it write a letter? Is it, I know miss Hart is gonna be at the short session. You know, do we need to provide some kind of marching orders from this group, whether in the form of a motion or just an, informal discussion of here are the things that we wanna see retained from that measure that may be repealed. Boy, that was great English.

No. I I I think that would be a worthwhile discussion.

That's a great idea.

I guess, I don't know all the intricacies of what's in the bill. I do know, like you said, though, the component about the tolling does seem to be something that this commission has consistently had a position on that I feel comfortable. You know, if there's confirmation tonight that that's obviously something that we could continue to push to be addressed to include or advance stand alone. Right? There's multiple ways to do that, but I don't I just don't know enough. I don't know what else is in there that we would advocate for or against.

Yeah. And there is no bill. Basically, the statement was Well, just figure it out.

Right. Just rescinded. Yeah. Right.

And they have a good track record on that.

Well, I think the other the other thing I think there's a consensus up here and exactly, again, how that works, I don't know. But increased accountability for ODOT.

It's those two.

Those are those are the two things. Okay. Hot buttons. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I think if

there's consensus, I think that's I mean, that that that's consistent with what we've heard in the past, and I think that's something we can

Oh, we can pass a motion to basically reaffirm our positions on those two particular issues and that we want to let our friends and frenemies and and Salem know about it. If you'd like. Yep. We have a motion.

I move that we affirm the city commission's position that tolling language should be permanently stricken from, the statutes statutes and and that that ODOT accountability is a central part of any transportation fix. Second. Commissioner

Mike Mitchell? Aye. Commissioner Rocky Smith? Aye. Commissioner Adam Marle? Aye. Commissioner Scott Wilson? Aye. And mayor Denise McGriff.

Aye. Motion the emphasis. Thank you. That was fantastic. So that was, planning commissioner Stoll, and he said that he would be willing to stay on until his replacement. So can we have a, motion? Did we already do that? Okay. Yep. Yes. Alright. Well, I just wanna make sure. So I didn't want him to be surprised, but he said yes. So alright. So we have,

so we'll go back

out as soon as possible on that.

I can open the application tomorrow. Great. Thank you. The more

specific I, yeah, I hesitate to I mean, it's only 07:40. So

Thank you. It's okay.

Feel free. Just it's the fact that it's been every single time, it feels like where we at least get one candidate who's like, I don't know why I'm here, speaks to the fact that we should maybe think of changing something about the online form. I don't know what that is, but I would like to do as much I mean, for their benefit as well to not be put in a situation like that. I I know that one of the functions is that you can just check all the boxes, and sometimes that's And he's gonna what's happened.

He's gonna fix that. So, actually, I've already made the change. So now when you check a box, a question will pop up saying, what is your specific interest in committee x? So if they check all the boxes, then they will have many, many boxes to fill out. Okay. And that would in the hopes of drawing some attention to what they're clicking so it's not as easy to scatter applications to the entire group. They'll have to specifically write something about that specific committee. Okay.

That's good. Well, the one question I would like to see may be beefed up, and it's for all the the boards. Let me go back to the application here, the one where you ask people, what is your I think you have the question. It's, explain your interest in this border commission and why you think it's important. I I cannot say probably since you applied that somebody has answered that question with any specificity that gives you some idea of what it you know, they don't explain what, you know, what their interest is.

And I as somebody who is very pro citizen involvement and very pro being involved, just saying that you wanna serve your community is not quite enough. That is a great and noble goal, and we all want to do that. But it gets to the specificity of, yeah, that's great. But

That's the question that I've modified to make it specific to each committee. K. Well, I'll take a look at that.

And I would love to take a look at that.

Is there any disclaimer for the HRB and planning commission boxes that it will require a public meeting interview, or is that

something that they learn after the fact when you contact them? I don't have a specific disclaimer in the application right now.

Be a good thing to add just so people are aware of what

the process. But the other people knew.

No. I'm not saying for the person who didn't show up. I'm just saying out of respect for the people who are applying, that could change whether someone wants to apply or not. Right?

Yeah. Okay. Well, I will I will take a look at that question. How it's been well, matter of fact, why don't you just send the applicant the thing to all of us so we can take a look at it?

I can do that.

Yeah. I would I'm I'm not trying to say that there's a reason for why someone didn't show up. I just think that there should be the expectation that if you want to apply for these ones, then know that

this is part of process. And commissions that we have have had interviews in person.

Not a not a public meeting. No. Not at a public what I'm talking about.

Actually, yeah. All the committees, they're those are public meetings. All the committees.

Not the interview. Yeah. But that that's a little

Yes. That because I know they are. Prac. I yes. Everybody. It's all public meetings.

Yes. It is. This public meeting is different than a PRAC meeting, and it puts an additional amount of pressure on somebody. So I think it it would not be a bad idea that people know you're gonna be interviewed by the full city commission at a public meeting. Because these this is a different meeting than a PRAC meeting or

Well, I agree. But they but again, you know, we wanna make sure that they understand that, yes, they are all public all public meetings. Okay. So next on the agenda is, board and commission appointments and update city commission assignments. So far, everybody wants to stay in doing what they're doing, but I would like to, I don't know exactly how DOCA feels about it, but I'm going to appoint, recommend appointing and with his permission that Mike Mitchell also join me on the DOCA board. He will probably be taking over for me once my term is over, and it's good for him to get up to speed now. So we're not making any major changes.

I'm not are you trying to you're talking about sharing it?

Yeah.

Yeah. Is

that something that we can do with our in our agreements with them?

I don't see that. Honestly, I don't see that being workable. That's that's an independent organization. Yes. We provide funding. But

We have an ex officio position. I understand.

But I don't I don't think having two of us there in an ex officio position is is fair to them.

Why is it So I'm not I don't

I don't I don't I I I would plan to attend the meetings, but just as a citizen. But I I I just don't like the idea of there being two people in the position.

Okay. Well, we can talk about it later. We're not making any changes at this point in time. Some of the things, as mister Wiley has noted, are coming off the list because they don't exist anymore or they are not things that we are do we are, well, all the things that are that we're not doing. Although I did have a comment from, somebody on the DMMO that said that they really wish that commissioner former commissioner O'Donnell was still available because they would like to have his expertise.

And I said, well, you can always put him on there if he if he would be willing to do it. If he's a critical. That's what I said. You know, call him and ask him. So, anything else, mister Conkel?

No. Just clarifying that, like, I think we had pointed out in the staff report that the Arts Commission is not identified in the Oregon City Municipal Code. It's still listed as, something that the mayor is assigned to? Are are we

Well, I assigned myself to it because they asked me to do it.

I understand. Are we removing it, though? Or

We can. I mean, I'm they they asked me to go, so I'm gonna try to go.

K. So we will we will remove it as an identified committee assignment unless the commission tells us otherwise. Alright.

Is there anything else for the good of the order?

I think if if I can like, if I can

just comment on something, I I was Oh, please.

Debating on whether or not, but I I feel compelled to. So I don't know if if many of you have seen the there's a recent Facebook post after our last commission meeting for the resolution that we passed affirming, that we would not participate in in

Was it on site or it was on

It was on was it

on chitchat or No. It was

on it was on, it was a post comments made on the city's On our site. Okay. Yes. And it was it was pretty lively.

There was a

lot of comments on there.

They're always

And I I can only speak for myself, but, again, I feel compelled, especially after taking my oath of office tonight. I was disappointed by the sheer number of comments of of folks, residents or not, that were actually encouraging or frustrated for us upholding state law. And, you know, just taking the opportunity, we do take, in this oath of office to uphold state law. And the constitution of the state of Oregon does preclude us from participating in immigration, activities, which is, again, entirely within the purview of the federal government and and us exercising a state right to not participate in sharing immigration status is an important ability that we have. And and again, I I just wanna say I'm I'm a little disappointed by some of those comments from folks that were frustrated at the oath that we have taken to uphold state law.

I really think that some of the comments that I saw did not really understand what the state law is Yeah. And did not recognize that in this case, we are allowing the state to supersede anything that we would be doing. And this is because they've said this is what we are doing, so this is means is what we are doing. And I think that's, you know, again, as we have noted many times that a lot of times there are comments that are made, but they only have one little tiny Sure. Piece of the information, but not the full breadth of the information.

I think there were some very positive comments as well. I've gotten some in my email, Citi email that people appreciate that we did that. And to that end, I received some communication from some citizens that at the January 12 board meeting of the Oregon City School District, apparently, they're going to be considering the same type of documentation as well. And we were, we were asked, to attend, if we can. It's at 7PM on Monday, the twelfth at, Clackamas Community College, Roger Brook Hall, and, adjacent to or Orange Lots 1 And 2.

That happens to also be the same time that we're meeting with our youth advisory commission. So it's probably doubtful that we'll all be showing up, but I just wanted to, mention that. So there is concern, obviously, with the community in Oregon City that, that the enforcement would negatively impact their students and staff and trying to figure out how we will comply with the state law. Yeah.

And I and I do appreciate you bringing up and agree there were a lot of very positive comments, which I very much do, you know, appreciate that. And and along those lines, as I'm gonna use the word tyranny of ICE continues to harass our residents, I would ask that at some point, we we do reconsider looking at declaring a state of emergency and really what would that mean. And even if it is just the fact that we have acknowledged that this is unprecedented and unacceptable, even if there's no funding or or things attached to it, I think alone making that statement like this is unacceptable. This is an emergency in itself has meaning.

Oh, I'm very much aware when we got the a lot of the communications that came in the first time, I did look up statute about what you do to declare a state of emergency, and I don't believe, and you could correct me, miss Richter, that we're not there yet. And I would be concerned about declaring a state of emergency prematurely is, I guess, the word I want to use. There were very specific in state statute that says this is when you do this. And while most of them do retain to some sort of physical calamity, There was it was generic enough in my mind when I was reading it that I said, well, I I would I would be willing to take that action and recommend that we take that action if we are in compliance with that particular state law And the and I or close to it.

Yeah. And I and I appreciate your, kind of review in that. And and I would also say, we have many other cities within the state that have done so. I think there is precedent for

But they've had the emergency. Woodburn, Newport, Hillsborough. I think Wilsonville is thinking about it, but they've had some arrests in their definite mean, mean, I don't wanna wait till we have some arrests. But, anyway, just I'm not saying I'm not supporting of it. I just wanna make sure that we are following, checking all the boxes.

Which I I appreciate. Yeah. So I think

the difference between the state of emergencies that were declared is that those necessitated funding that came with it, and that's what is I mean, when it comes to a state of emergency, that implies an action that a government would be taking. And so if it's clear that there is something that we can do Yeah. Then obviously, would be open to that. But I I think we are aware of our inability to write checks like the city of Hillsborough Yep. When they took the extra step to declare the to declare the emergency.

So not to say that it isn't necessarily at that point, but that we need to understand what the ramifications are and that it would probably necessitate resources on our part in order to for us to make that jump.

Yeah. Yep. And and I agree and appreciate that. So

So maybe if we could get a little further clarification to give us more certainty if that if we should get to that point, I

think that would be, advisable. So I'm not familiar with all of the criteria for declaring a new emergency this evening, but I'd be happy to come at the next meeting with some sort of scope of options, menu of options, if that makes sense.

Yep. Thank you. That would be great because that that will give us that will give us all of the information we need. And if we, you know, if we are asked about it positively or negatively, we have something to back up what we are doing. And we're not just we don't want people to assume we're just doing it willy nilly because everybody else is doing it.

There's consensus. Okay.

It's the hot topic today, Ilya. Alright. Well, being no further business, we can adjourn the meeting.