Council - Special Meeting

limping around. Hey, knee replacement. Yeah, last I'm going to call the meeting the meeting of March 4th to order if everybody um actually we're not going to start with the pledge of allegiance. I'm going to turn it over the mayor to announce uh our special guest tonight.

Thank you. Is it lights on? Um over the last several about a year or so, we've we've looked into being part of a group of communities that are working together in a what is called the First Calls program. First Calls program introduces uh mental health and social workers along with uh police officers that will help in many different issues that come up in community policing. And we're fortunate tonight we've invited Annette Wallace who is the director for the First Calls program that is currently operating out of Shaker Heights. Uh and Orange Village is looking to become one of the next trunch of communities that will be part of this program that will include partners with Pepper Pike, Beachwood and Solen as the next team. And so I thought it might be appropriate to have Annette come here, tell us a little bit about it so people can become more familiar with it. Uh the county is is actually going to um be financially supportive of this program and we will be undergoing a process to get a grant from the county to be able to participate in this. So Annette, why don't you come up?

Thank you, mayor. Thank you, council. Uh, thanks for having me here tonight. Uh, super excited to talk about the first call program. I do have some hands out. Um, if you guys would like to have one or however you would like that. So, I've been asked to keep brief uh because I know you all have a lot going on tonight. So, just a big uh overview kind of how it all started with the first call program. It actually started as a pilot in the city of Shaker Heights in 2022. And at that time I was a mental health professional that had kind of started this and we were in partnership at that time with Metro Health and their affiliate recovery resources. And during the pilot, it kind of started as like a true co-responder model where it had mental health professional myself riding along with our police and fire department going to mental health or other related calls. As the program continued, it began getting some traction and showing that it was successful in serving residents of Shaker Heights and giving them kind of this different avenue of a service and a response and really encompassing a person as a whole where it wasn't just typical mental health related calls. It's so much more than that because as we know it's not that simple to say this is a mental health, you know, issue. uh because it's so much more than that when we're talking about physical health, mental health, person's social needs, insurance, food stamps, housing. And so the program at Shaker Heights began to transform where it turned into more of like an alternative response, which is a mental health professional kind of doing things a little bit more independently from our first responder partner. We gained traction again with the communities that are around us in HHCC that's part of CBD. That includes um Cleveland Heights again, Shaker, South Uklid, University Heights, and I always feel like I miss one. University H

Richmond. Oh my goodness. I I say it 20 times a day and I still Right. I always miss one. And we had conversations of could we expand and make this program something that would be in our region and working together to share a resource. So with uh their commitment to the program, we applied for our first grant which was through the cop's office which was a federal grant where we received our first $400,000 to start the program and launch it again into those four communities with Shaker as well. And so with that we built teams. So our program now operates this way where we have teams of mental health professionals. So these are licensed folks. So people with a license of social work or counseling as well as peer supports. So someone with lived experience and as well as specialists, so people with a master's degree but maybe don't have a license. And so in teams of two, um they go to calls that are coming into the 911 center. So we're responding simultaneously with but separately from our first responder partners where dispatch the 911 center gets that call. They code it and how they need to do their thing. They send there's first responders that need to go and then we are added to those calls. So call types we're added to right now are mental health again related but also um unruly juvenile family trouble um overdose sometimes we go to pan handling different things like that depending on kind of what that dispatcher will see but then also first responders when they're on scene they can determine that maybe more um a mental health professional would be helpful. So that could be a traffic stop. We've been to those where someone had said they were living in their car. We have been to active house fires. We have been to um incidents where maybe was somebody was found deceased to help the family grieve that process. We go to a lot of physical health related calls. That's lift assist

or someone who's maybe having a hard time inside of their home and they want to remain there but they don't quite have the resources. And so again we have three teams that cover our five cities. And with that, we have one that will float in and out dispatch as well to help our call takers maybe gather information or handle calls that people just want to talk to somebody and it's maybe not appropriate for our first responders to go out but not however we figure that out. And so along with going or let me back up. So how we go to calls so again we receive it from the 911 center. We receive the referrals and then we go in our own vehicles. We have our own radios. We have our own phones. We have we're kind of this independent unit that we're able to go and be that partner, but we don't need first responders in regards to transporting us or telling kind of what's going on. We're able to be very independent. With that independence, we're also to kind of handle calls that maybe come in that aren't appropriate for our first responder partners. We had one um today, yesterday um where it was just an individual who was confused and they just wanted someone to talk to. and our first responders that wasn't necessarily appropriate for them to go to. So, we went um there was no safety concerns, there was no um weapons present, anything like that. The dispatcher determined and so we were able to assist with that individual. And then after the crisis, to me, that's one of the most important parts of the work that we do is after the crisis. It's not so simple to just go to the hospital um and be like told, "Okay, you figure it out from here." I mean, I have my own experience. I still remember when I had my son and they to like hand you this little baby and said now you have to make your appointments and also take care of yourself and have a good time. And so we're also expecting our individuals that have experienced a mental health crisis or a physical health crisis to do the same thing. The systems aren't easy

to navigate. And so that is a lot of work that we do linking to services, allowing that individual to explore kind of what they want, what they need, and us allowing them um and assisting them in figuring that out in any way that they deem appropriate. We do not have a time constraint where it's like, oh, it's only 30 days or it's only one or two follow-ups. We deter or that individual determines how we engage with them. So, if it's a more complex case and we have a lot of calls for service and they're maybe a high utilizer, then we're going to be following up with them a lot more. But if it's maybe an individual that has the services they need, but they just are having a hard time, okay, let's make sure you have what you need and then we'll go ahead and step out when you're ready to do or ready for us to do so. And so, that's kind of what the program and a very big overview looks like today. Um, I hope that answers some questions y'all have, but I at least wanted to that's the big big picture.

I want to thank thank you for coming in because this is the program that I've championed from the beginning to bring it to Orange. And I really do think that our residents as well as our employees can benefit from having mental health professionals readily available to all of us um when needed and at no cost to the residents. So, thank you. I have a couple questions. Are you uh involved or do you guys engage at all with the schools? Yeah.

Yeah. So, the school systems have their own kind of internal unit, but there are times when they call for a kiddo that's maybe experiencing something. We're going to go in and maybe I don't want to say ask different questions, but have a little bit of a different avenue of not only taking the kiddo, but the parents in the family unit because in the school they're very limited and so we can kind of engage outside of that school which can be very helpful. You ever engage in such a way where the kind of the school guidance counselors or something they give you they give your information or call a calling number out to students or make it available to students as a resource like independently. Yeah.

In the summertime um they'll give once they get consent from the family they'll actually give us information for that family. Maybe they're tracking that kiddo for over the summer. We've had that happen I guess for two years now. Yep. mentioned on the followup. Um it could be one time you follow up, it could be 30 times you is there a cost at a certain point that goes back to that person or it always is covered no matter how long you and you make the decision with them as far as how long that continues.

Yeah. So there's no cost to any of the neighbors that we serve because it's all grant funded and then funded by the cities themselves and so it all kind of comes through that service because billing is really difficult and we all know that and it can be time limited and so we've been very fortunate not have to go down that route. It's awesome. How many people work for your group? So, right now I'm at eight and then when we add two more, which will be the next cities, which will include Orange, um we'll be up to 10 fulltime. They're all full time. Yep. All fulltime.

Thank you for coming in, Annette. We really appreciate it. Um we're all going to be here that we'll need to have in order to move the project forward uh in the next coming weeks. So, uh, I look forward to having, uh, Orange Village being a member of the First Calls group. Thank you. Thank you.

Can I just can I ask just a real brief? So, um, first of all, thank you for for the program and the work that you done, you do. I had a nice conversation with the police chief about it and the recognition that there is a large intersection between the criminal uh uh the work that the the police officers do and the mental health components to it I think is a real huge piece to it. the the issue that I think we have to is the funding and obviously um I know through a lot of the aspects through the county system and the crisis center and the Adams board and the centers and the myriad of entities that are now kind of trying to cobble together enough funding to make sure that this that this goes on and I know the mayor is going to obviously bring forward legislation and we're we're optimistic about it. Um I'm just optimistic and hopeful that as this moves forward the funding streams that you know grants are great but they if they die then the program does. And so the issue that we have to figure out is where the sustainable money is to make sure that this program continues. And I know with all of the partners we have in the community you and your team will touch base with all them but it is absolutely essential that this continue. So, thank

it um especially for the funding part of it is very helpful to us and all of the other municipalities that are partaking. So, all right. Thank you, Annette. You uh introduce the uh public hearings now. The first one is for 3940 Beachmont Trail and um this uh

this public hearing is now open. Does anybody have any comments regarding Beachfund? Okay, I'm going to close that public hearing and move on to the next one. It's 4545 Brainer Road. This is now open. And I wonder if anybody has any comments to bring forth for this public hearing. Hey, there's none there either. So, I'll close that um public hearing. Now the next one is for 4799 Lander Road. This is adjacent to my property. So I am only facilitating the public hearing. I am not participating in any way. I don't want to be construed as my participating in any way just because I'm facilitating. So this is open. And are there any comments to church property? Okay, I'm going to close that public hearing, too. And there were no comments. So, we're going to move on to our special meeting. Um, let's start with the pledge of allegiance, please.

To the flag of the United States of America and to the forsy. All right, Anna, will you call the role, please? Foster here. Kurland here. Here. Boil here. Bilski here. Harry here. Can I have a motion to excuse Jeff Foster from the meeting? He had to leave. We don't need that for We don't need it for a special meeting. Yeah. Been traditionally doing it. No, we had the first time was when you did it for

matter. Let's move on to a motion to adopt the final order and conclusions of fact for the variance request for Scott and Rochelle M. Lewis to permit an addition to the residence at 3940 Beachmont Trail. A motion motion. How would you like to second it, Amanda? Thank you. Um So, we had no comments. Does anybody um

I can speak to this one. Um planning and zoning met we um endorsed this and and came to the conclusions that we should um council should give this variance. It's for a small amount of property. It's through no fault of the owners um that they have to have it and it's architecturally really the only way that this addition can be built to meet the needs of the homeowners.

I would like to just add that um I want to be completely transparent that I we're talking about a one- foot variance but at the residents of uh Beachmont Trail, one of them served as my campaign treasurer uh for both of my campaigns. So just to be perfectly is my connection with the homeowner.

Okay. Any other comments? Well, I'm just going to say that the fact that all of the neighbors don't have a problem with it and the um HOA approved it means that no reason not to approve it. Great. Then Anna, will you call the role, please? Abstain. All ner. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Thank you. Next, I need a motion to adopt the final order and con decision and of Okay, I'm going to start over. A motion to adopt the final order and decision of council and the conclusions of fact for the variance request for temple Emanuel to permit the split of the northern portion of the property with the frontage on Brainard Road. So I'm going to abstain from any discussion of this one or um voting on it um to avoid even the appearance of impropriy. I used to be a member of Temple Emanuel and although I do feel that I could impartially um participate I think in it's in the best interest to not participate in this one.

Thank you. Any other comments? I'm going to ask that um actually the either the mayor or the law director then explain it. So I I will not since I'm on planning and zoning and what have

when the Temple Emanuel property was um developed, there was a um if you will section of the property that extended out to Brainer Road for future parking and future access. The the congregation has come to the conclusion that they no longer need that access way. Um it the the property itself is 1.2 I think 1.27 acres where the properties um in the U1 district need to be 1.5 acres. So it's 23 acres short of that. there is the ability um to potentially extend a a if you will a panhandle onto the adjacent property, but it would compromise the parking of Temple Emanuel. Uh it is pretty obvious that the site can be developed fully as it's intended and will look very much the same as all the other properties on Brainer Road or on Brainer Road at that location. Uh furthermore, there's a slight um less than the the 150 frontage that this parcel has. I think it's like less it's about a foot 120 to be 150. I think it's 149 or something like that. Um, all of the properties along Brainer Road in that location are of different frontages. There are no two that have the the the same dimension and many of them don't have the 150 frontage. Um, so it was recommended that rather than make this a more complicated site to work with where it can be built appropriately and and provide all of the necessary amenities that are needed for the house that a variance was appropriate to allow this to go forward.

And that's the um that's the reason for this request and that um the conclusions on the property Any other comments? Okay, great. Dana, will you call the role, please? Vincent, yes. Perland, yes. Ner, abstain. Yes. Bilski, yes. Harry,

yes. Thank you. Okay. Next. Um, I'm only facilitating. So, I need a motion to adopt the final order and decision of council and the conclusions of fact for variance request for Otto signature homes to construct six lots on the property. Two lots require a setback of 50 ft. I'll make that motion. Thank you. Second.

Thank you. have a question before we vote on it and that's that um because this is a work session and I know t we tend to we have been voting on things but I think this is something that's come up very recently and and people including myself were not aware I don't know that the setback is a huge deal but just I would like to have just a little more time to just explore it and talk to some people around the area and hear more and especially since we didn't have an opportunity to hear from anybody during the public hearing ing. Um, and I'm just wondering if we can table this one week to our actual work meeting next week. Not a work meeting, to our actual session next week.

Actually, I'm going to oppose that and I'm going to explain why. Um, first of all, there this is not just a public hearing tonight that was available. There was a public hearing um also before planning and zoning. Again, no one showed up. Planning and zoning gave notice to every neighbor who was impacted and is twice twice.

Twice. Yes. So people are very much who are impacted are very much aware this is not um a ve this is not a variance with respect to I think in the past what we've been talking about and I'm going to I'm going to ask um I'm going to ask the law director to correct me if if I misspe about anything. Okay. In the past with this property we were talking about having lots that were less than the one and a half um acre which is zoned for in that area. Okay. Here all of the lots will be more one and a half or more acres. This is simply a request for setback for two of the lots of the six that would be created on the property. They're essentially uh creating a culde-sac um which is a very good way to use the space to stay within the zone the current zoning. every member was every um neighbor was notified twice. Um they were allowed to come to planning and zoning. They were allowed to come here. I think that they um the builder and and I think everybody knows I was vehemently against the last the last one. So, uh the the builder has put a lot of effort and time and I don't think it's fair to make them wait an extra week. I think it's appropriate. It's on the schedule for tonight and I think that given the number of people and the votes that are needed that tonight is the night to have it heard.

I'll just clarify that the notice that's sent out prior to the planning and zoning commission is mailed to the neighbors. So there's actual notice to the neighbors. I think it's within 500 ft. I'd have to double check that, but it's it's anybody in proximity to the property that is requesting the variance. The second notice of this hearing is put on the website and posted to village hall. If I can add to that, I my recollection is that the the the planning and zoning meeting was continued at one point as well because notices went out on both days because I I had spoken to some of my neighbors as well when the first hearing date came over and I actually went by accident to the date when it had been continued on that date and even on the floor of council I had mentioned that the dates were coming.

There were two actual notices to Yeah. So, there were So, so I I I understand Miss Vincent's comments and I certainly understand what your comments are as well. Um, quite frankly, I'm ambivalent. I don't I don't know that the decision would be any different, but I'm certainly prepared to vote on it today. I'm not sure that the decision would be different anyway. Like I said, I know that's fair.

Setbacks and and forgive me, I I have, as many of you know, I've been ill for the last couple weeks, but I just I feel like this was new information. I'm not I don't abut it. I don't know. I don't live there. I didn't I get the notice about this coming up. Um and I I'm I'm sorry to hear about the the church not being successful. I was was hope so hopeful it was. But after all that went through the first and I know it's a different case and I know we're talking about density versus this is not a density issue at all. And I'm not saying I I wouldn't support it. It like I said the the variance to me seems very reasonable. I just would like to have a little time, just a pad of time, especially because this is supposed to be something that we don't vote during work sessions. We're supposed to vote during council meetings, and that's come up during during some discussions with the the bylaws and and other situations. So, that's that's just where I am. I I'm not against it for two other properties without you raising the issue. And I think that it's

okay inappropriate at this point to raise it now. All right. As as a point of order, I would like to say to Stacy, if you feel strongly about this after the discussion, you can make a motion to table this to next month. And you would need somebody to next month. I would do next week. Next week, sorry. And uh you would need somebody on this council second it. So would you like to make a motion? Like to make that motion. Is there a second? So, are there any other comments?

Yeah, if I if I may. Uh, so, um, obviously I had a a role and an interest in the resoning and and your comments are of course correct. The issue that's before us now is much different than what we were dealing with with the previous matter. Um, and the reasonzoning was was in my estimation and I think in a lot of my neighbors and friends was a much drastic and much different um matter than what's in front of us here today. Um, the the comments that I had and I and I I don't want to speak for any of my friends that when we worked on the issue, but the comments that that at least I proposed were I I wasn't objecting to six houses being on on the property, but rather that a a building that the the the housing that was being was being proposed was not consistent with the character of the neighborhood. And I do think that what is in front of us is in the same character of the neighborhood. The variances themselves are not what I would label as anything. They're not as minor as Mr. Lewis's one foot, but they are but they are not what I would label as as um things that would be out of the norm to be an expectation that this body would consider. I do have a couple comments that I would like to at least put into the record. Um as I've mentioned on this floor before, I had filed for um regarding the tax exempt status of the properties involved here. And I know that um I believe that there's $80,000 in back taxes currently held on the on the three parcels. um that I assume and and would be addressed and paid in full prior to moving forward with it. Um and there is pending I think at least on one of the parcels with the state tax board. Um they have not resolve the issue relative to the final determination of the taxes on that. Um,

the other aspects that I that I think hopefully will be addressed is the buffer. Hopefully buffer between the current homes and the homes that that are if this goes forward that will be um that there will be a buffer of some sort to allow um some level of of uh privacy between them and I'm I'm cautiously optimistic that that will take place. There's also wetlands I think we know on the property and those will have to be addressed in whatever goes in there. The last thing and I would turn to the law director um on paragraph 14 of the of the um conclusions of fact um that itself the contents there are not enough for me not to vote for it but but I I don't like the fact that there is what I would label as an undecided pending hanging piece of information in 14 um where it has the regarding the sewer and septic issue that kind of an ifcom situation of whether or not the septic will be approved by the uh Department of Health. I don't know whether they're going to do it. I do know that the county department of health is fairly stringent in terms of of mandating that sewers be placed in, but I know that we've had discussions about that. I recognize the need for it because it hasn't been finalized. Um but nonetheless, I I I was cautiously optimistic that what would be in front of us would be a little more final on that issue. But but nonetheless, um I'm sure that as that moves forward, they will address that in a manner that will be um acceptable to the new residents that will be there if this goes forward, as well as with the requisite entities that deal with the septics and the sewers, the health department in the uh Northeast Ohio Regional Sewer District, if they go there or whether or not they're injection sewers. But just some things that I wanted to make sure that I put on the record.

Point. Do you have a comment to I believe that the final the the proposal for the entire development will include that and that would be a for a forthcoming step. That's my understanding. At this point, the plan that has been put forward doesn't address any of the details that would be related to the actual design and construction of the development as it it will have to go through that whole process through both a preliminary development plan and final development plan for um for those properties. It would all come through us and planning and zoning before anything

planning. This is the only action council will take. I put 14 in there in CA in case somebody's going to come in and say we can't we need we need more. We need something different. This we're approving this plan as designed. If there's if they can't get septic approved, which was what they're basing this on, you know, this is going to go away because the plan's not No. And I and I recognize that, Stephen, and I and I and I I don't have any objection to it. I I um it had the either or type of thing and I was, you know, I was hopeful that it would have been resolved by now and I and I recognize that that that may not happen. Great. Thank you for your comments. Any other comments?

Questions?

I'm confused. I'm not I'm torn um because I don't not support this project from what I've seen. And like I said, the variances are very acceptable, but at the same time, I just wish we I wish I and others who may not have been aware had a little more time on it. So, um, I'm torn. Um, as a point of order, I want to remind council members that when you get your packet and the conclusions of fact that it is an opportunity to reach out to council, to the administration to council, I meaning our legal counsel uh, to ask questions.

Okay, good. I want you to know I did. And I think you also do you not still get all of the um mailing the agendas and and paperwork for the planning and zoning commission meetings?

I do, but not all of my neighbors do and I have been sick for the last few weeks and it's just not something that I saw coming up. I I I'm readily saying I just I just wanted another week to be able to I I'm sure Ed will cover the story. I'm sure it will be put out there. And I just want to make sure people have the opportunity who, you know, one thing we deal with in communications is, you know, you have obviously people will always say, "I didn't know about it. I didn't know about it." And I don't want them to use that as an excuse. Again, I'm not I'm not against the variance. I I'm I'm not in this case. Um, so I don't want to not support that, but I just would like information to be more readily available for people that might not have gotten specific letters or specific calls because they don't live in the immediate vicinity.

This is simply two variant v one variance each for two of the lots. Four of the lots do not need variances. And again, correct me if I misspeak of anything. Okay,

correct. Two of the two of the lots need a variance very similar to the variance that Mr. Lewis needed slightly larger but very similar issue. It has nothing to do with the layout of the street or anything else. None of that is before council nor can it be before council. None of that. We are only looking at and the only issues before us are can two lots out of six and you could forget that there's six just two particular lots that will be built on can they each have a variance of 50 I think it's 50 feet each correct yeah that's it simple issue and I and I and I don't want to confuse it because it's it's not a confusing issue it's very simple there are two lots that need a variance of 50 feet each when the other lots around them are built, they will clearly be well aware of um variances in the way that the homes are all being built. So, none of the particular neighbors on that street will be affected um because they will know in advance of purchasing those lots. So, there is no harm to any of those neighbors. With respect to the neighbors in the neighboring properties further out, they've all been notified twice. They've all noticed this this was noticed as well. Um you know uh

the same procedures that we follow for anywhere else in the village everywhere else. In fact they got twice as they got two notice. They got double the amount right and Kim this if I understand correctly this variance does not affect the other properties at all. It's only that development which

and in the time I had that's I've contacted those people around there and talked to them to the best of my ability. I just I just want to I'd like people to know about this situation with the former new song. I'd like people to know about this. It's our neighborhood and and and I as you know I supported the last project and so certainly when you're talking about 16 versus six I mean there it's you know it's not even an an issue in my mind. I just would like people to know what's going on. I'd like people to be aware of it. So that's I think we're ready for the call. Yeah. Will you call the role? Vincent, Kurland, yes. Ner, yes.

Yes. Bilski, Perry. Abstain. Next on the agenda, I motion to award a bid for the asphalt repair program for 2026 to Ronak Paving for the base bid and alternate amount in the amount not to exceed 692,118.35. Do I have a motion? I'll make the motion. What? Thank you. All right. Um, and Brian like to speak on Brian speak to this. Thank you. Come on up and use a microphone or you can use that one or that one.

Uh hopefully everybody's got in front of them the bid tabulation. Um, you know, this is basically our asphalt work for the year, which will be uh overlaying a portion of Orangewood. Um, along with Hemlock Circle and Laurel Circle. Uh, again, uh, Ronak Paving being the low bidder. We're very familiar with them. They've been our asphalt pavers for the last two years. Um, considerably underneath the engineer's estimate. And does anybody have any questions? The estimate that they gave was significantly lower than the estimate that you guys came up with. Correct.

We we think Paving has their own asphalt plan. If you notice, everybody else is really close to the estimate, right? Sometimes they have a considerable advantage. They've done a lot of work for us in the past last two or last two years. Yes. Yeah. Any other questions? Will you call the role? Vincent, yes. Ner, yes. Oil, yes. Bilski, yes. Harry,

yes. Thank you all. Uh, next, a motion to approve a purchase of a 2026 Dodge 3500 Tradesman Reg cab 4x4 by Montrose Ford at a cost not to exceed $55,122. That was a bid under the state of Ohio cooperative purchasing program. Note the uplifting of the 2020 upfitting of the 2026 Dodge 3500 Tradesman will include several vendors with a total cost not to exceed $16,574. I'll make the motion. Thank you. Questions, comments? Uh, who'd like to

This vehicle is for the fire department. It's replacing our pickup truck which is will be 15 years old at the end of the year. Um, it's got uh 85,000 miles on it. It's starting to show its age. Uh, some mechanical issues and some uh cosmetic uh uh some rust. It's starting to, you know, just do what pickup trucks do. Uh, we got good 15 years out of it. Uh, that truck will be surplused and sold once the new one is in service to kind of help offset some of this cost. Um, and you know, I full well expect we'll get at least another 15 years out of the next vehicle. We we purchase good

questions. Okay. Anna Benson, yes. Kurland, yes. Alner, yes. Boil, yes. Bilski, yes. Harry, yes. Thanks. Next, I need a motion to authorize an agreement with Pavement Technology Incorporated. incorporation for the rejuvenation of asphalt village streets at a price not to exceed $58,95540. Um, I'll make the motion. I'll second. Thank you, Kim. Uh, this is something we've done before. It's saved the life of our streets by by some time. Brian, would you like to talk?

This is a a product that goes down on the asphalt road usually two to three years after we complete them. Um, basically, uh, uh, just what it says, rejuvenating the the the pavement. Um, I believe we've already passed one for the Brainard Road that last month. Um, this is for the residential streets, uh, that we did, Pike, uh, Oxford Court, and White Drive. We have a motion and a second. We've heard any questions. None. Anna, will you please call the role?

Yes. Kurland, yes. Ner, yes. Boille, yes. Bilski, yes. Perry, yes. Thank you. Next, I need a motion to approve the special council meeting minutes of February 4th, 2026. see anything it needs addressing. I just want to say with explanation that while I was not in attendance at that meeting, I did watch the minutes. So, I will vote on it. You're welcome to regardless. Yes. Thank you. Okay, Anna, will you call the role? Vincent, yes. Kurland, yes. Yes. Boil, yes. Bilski, yes.

Harry, yes. Thanks. Next is a motion. I need a motion to approve the council meeting minutes of February 11th, 2026. I'll make that motion. Thank you, Jim. Okay. Uh, anybody notice anything needs changing there? Anna Vincson, yes. Eland, yes. Oil, yes. Yes. Harry, yes. Thanks. Next, um, we have audience comments regarding agenda items.

It could be anything on tonight's agenda. You know the you know the drill. Sign in after you talk, please. Thank you. Just one one comment. Uh, we have an item uh 20 for we're talking about clarifying the amendments on the zoning. Use your mic a little bit better. Thank you. Thank you.

Oh, John Loftess, 4231 Lander Road. One issue, ordinance 2026-4. We're dealing with um amending the zoning code um or the procedures for amending the zoning code. Um on the charter review commission we're this is probably the zoning is going to be a big issue and I would just ask that uh you table this um and allow the uh charter review to do what it's supposed to do and then um you know you can bring this back up depending upon the outcome of the results of the charter review commission. Any questions? Is this on the agenda for

your agenda is ordinance 20 charter review? We are going through I mean we are talking about amending the zoning pro provisions and zoning is a big part of the charter. Yeah. Well, we don't normally we normally address things later, but

my recommendation, my legal recommendation would be to put this in place so you have a procedure in place. Assuming that you make changes and the voters vote for the ch council puts it on as you propose and the voters vote on it, it would be enacted effective January of 2027. We certainly can between November and January change the code to reflect whatever change in charter there is. Will the world come to the Will the world come to an end if you hold this for we're going to be done by you know I think the first week in May

with all due respect what you what the what the correct me I misspe what the charter review commission does is you guys come up with a recommendation for the charter it then comes to council and then goes to the voters again correct me if I misspe okay voters vote if it's approved which hopefully would you know it would be it's in effect on January 1. We to be really appropriate is not the best word but to be doing things the way we should legally be doing things. We should in my opinion pass this tonight. We need to be doing things the right way. And then of course if the charter review if the charter is changed then what we will do is come back and we will change this. We we'll we will delete that. We'll we'll replace this with a new um ordinance that would be consistent with the new charter starting in on January 1, 2027. But until then, you know, legally we really should to have things clean, we really should be

and to be clear the current charter. We're not right now.

Clear. Well, what we're doing what we do is we follow what the charter requires us to do. So, this is just clarifying. It's moving into the codified ordinances a process that already exists. And if there's a if there's a proposed change that goes on the ballot, the council will have put that on the ballot in July. And we starting the process to sync up if there's a proposed change the ordinance with what the charter provides. I do recommend that we have this provision in place between now and next January and if we need to change it, we'll change it.

Right. Yeah. This just mirrors what's already in the charter. And so if the charter is ultimately changed, we'll come back and change the code. The rationale, Steve, at the outset was to make sure that people that were looking from the outside who were looking at at at what do I have to do to to build something in the city, they don't have to look at the charter. They have to look, you know, most people are going to look at the code. And so what has to be in the code has to mirror be consistent with what's in the charter. And this is just cleaning up the language to make sure that what's in our codified ordinances is paring what's in the the charter. If we ultimately do change the charter Yeah. then we're going to have to come back and change it just like a lot of other aspects.

Your codified ordinances refer back to the charter which now you're just saying they do. Yes. Right. I mean, I don't want to speak for the law director, but yes, the language in here is to make sure that the language that's in the in the in the codified ordinances is consistent with the language in the charter. It's not identical, but it's pretty close as is in currently, I think, Steve would be, but this makes it essentially identical

and it it it documents what council has been doing for since they took out the there used to be board of zoning appeals process has been in in effect. The goal is to make our ordinance as as transparent and easy for residents who want to, you know, change something or or challenge something to know, okay, what are the steps that I need to take? And most people and their attorneys would go to the ordinances to check. So, it's really just we and this is not inconsistent with what we've been doing in other areas. Um, we've been trying to sort of clean up our ordinances over the last several months. Um, and you know, this is consistent with that. It doesn't in any way prevent the the Charter Review Commission from making any recommendations or changes that you guys see fit. And we definitely appreciate the work that you all are putting in. But whatever you do can't be effective until the earliest of January 1, 2027 anyway. There's there's nothing there's no way to to change the the charter prior to that. Any other comments? Thank you, John.

Okay, I'm going to move on to old business ordinance 2026-3, an ordinance approving the map of survey, consol consolidation, vacation, and dedication for a portion of Orange Place and parcel D and blocks of A, B, and C. This is on for third reading. And zoning has uh recommended for us to pass this. Do I have a motion to approve? Please make the motion. Second. Thank you, Amanda. All right. Anybody want to speak to this? Kim?

Yeah, I'm happy to. So, um, essentially this is over near Pinerest, um, where the water feature is, and it's making the lines, um, on the on the survey consistent with what's actually existing in real life. I mean, just put it. Will you call the role? Vincent, yes. Kurland, yes. Ner, yes. Yes. Bilski, yes. Perry,

yes. All right. Next is ordinance 2026-4 is amended. An ordinance amending section 1144.04 of chapter 1144. Amendments and exceptions to clarify the procedures for proposed amendments to the zoning code of Orange Village. This also is on for third reading. It has been recommended by planning and zoning. Do I have a motion to open this? I'll make that motion. Second.

Sorry. Okay, great. Now, um, Mr. Loftess has asked us to table it as a point of order. I'll see if anybody has any interest in tableabling it. I think we heard comments too about why we can move forward. Uh

we have a motion to adopt. We do in a second. If there's any questions, comments, we just discussed it. at some point. I mean, it just because I know it is being discussed in in um the charter review and at some point I do want to be able to delineate our work sessions versus our I know we've been doing this for years. I've been on on council for enough years that I've seen this happen. But I I if we're going to have two meetings, I I totally agree. I was going to bring it up, but I hear um charter review commission is currently speaking about this. Yeah. So I I think that they can do a lot of the leg work for figuring out if we're going to how we're going to proceed.

One of the things that I can do back in 2008, there was a a set of rules that was adopted that did delineate different procedures for work sessions from than council meetings. The ideas of the council meetings were that's where you were going to have votes of council. at the work session there was a different method for public comment where you rather now theoretically you don't have rule on it a currently adopted rule now you you just have public comments and you could say you know three minutes and that's it in the work session rule they had dialogue so that you could ask questions of the council and the administration it's an option and and that would delineate something different about the work session special meeting from the regular meeting just in terms of the way you interact with the public not mandatory I mean it's just I throw it out there because that was one thing that used to be different between the two sessions and frankly there's never been a lot of because there aren't a lot of people here there's never been a lot of formality to the public portion

Steve is there a is there a need to have two different kinds of meetings like a special versus historically the the the difference the difference between a special meeting and a regular meeting is a special meeting you can only vote on things that are on the agenda whereas a regular meeting you could have people bringing forward motions that are not on the agenda. Um, you still have to distribute under the chart. You still have to distribute legislation ahead of time, but you could make a motion to do something. Um, you know, to authorize the clerk to do something or what have you. Um, and and uh

the um that can come up at a at a regular meeting, special meetings, you're stuck with what's on the agenda than I guess suspending the rules because we've done that. just for wave. If it if an ordinance is on for um consideration, you can suspend the rules at a special meeting. If it's on the agenda, you can take any action with respect.

So Mike reflects back to, you know, that we excuse a council person for the business meeting but not for the regular meeting but not the So it gets a little just foggy, get a little fuzzy in there. If if we're going to run two regular meetings, then we probably should excuse council people. And it also is going to go back to when they consider like how many you can miss in a row. So there there just a lot of issues that are associated with it. I don't mean it to bog down this particular, you know, ordinance, but just something we need to keep. I

I just want to suggest that if we're going to address that and make any changes, I would suggest that we figure out what we're going to do and then make it effective starting with a certain month, but not in the middle of any meeting, whether it's special or regular. That's, you know, whatever is going to happen is I'm fine. But then you say, okay, starting in April, this is the way it's going to be or whatever. Okay. So, Lisa's point about the charter review. Yeah. Let let me just give you a tiny bit of history too because

I think it's pertinent to this. When um I started on council, work sessions were never special meetings. They were frowned upon to be special meetings because um at that time communications were very different than they are today. We didn't have the internet the way we do and we information wasn't able to get out to residents in a timely manner. And Steve has taught me that this really dates back to horse and pony days when people came to town only once a month or once every three months to hear what's going on. So it gave it gave laws an opportunity to be heard and passed out to people when there weren't the types of communication that we have today. We've evolved over the last 28 years and that's all I can speak to of different council presidents using both meetings to progress legislation forward. 90% of our legislation is kind of housekeeping type of things that don't need three months of study or three months for the public to kind of rest on something or longer. Um like big topic things. I think that I my personal feelings don't don't matter because I'm one person. But if we are always making a special meeting, my personal feeling is why not call a horse a horse, make it a regular council meeting. But it causes a problem because I I do feel when we have large variances and things that a few things that do require more time and and thought uh that I would like the three months to to hear a topic. So I pose that to Mr. Lewis who's chairing the uh

charter review. I told him my opinion. He's taking it back to committee. Uh more to come. All right. So, any other questions? And will you call the RO? We got a motion. Vincent, yes. Land, yes. Ner, yes. Boil, yes. Bilski, yes. Harry,

yes. Thank you. Okay. Next is ordinance uh new business. Ordinance 2026-7, an ordinance amending a portion of section 1174.04 04 of the codifi codified ordinances to amend the definition of senior single living detached attached dwellings. This is on for first reading. I believe we should send that to planning and zoning. Yes. Okay. And um just a background this is to make um this is to make our ordinance consistent with federal law. So this is related to the

the the the senior citizens district. Um there are different definitions of senior housing. The the um congregate um independent living facility that was going to be Omni um is defined to match up with the HUD standard um for uh senior housing. Um but for for whatever reason that when Omni was presenting that as their proposed language for the ordinance, they did not consider the um attached uh single family dwelling portion of it. Um and so the diff the definitions are not the same. This would make the definitions not only the same with the federal standard but the same within the district. So that 55 and older housing is the same both for the congregate living and for the um attached single family residential

for the attached that's what this does. This this ordinance would would match up the single family attached with the congregate um independent living facility. Right. Any other questions? All right. Uh so that's first reading, we'll move on to audience comments which advance the good of Orange Village tonight. All right. Being none comments by the mayor, please.

Well, I'm glad to be back. Um able to walk around a little bit. Thank everybody for their patience uh with me as I recover from this knee surgery. uh number of announcements and and some other things to talk about. Uh to begin with, uh you can begin to place your orders for leaf humus by visiting our website at orangevillage.com or call 4404984400. Computers, flags, and household hazardous waste collection with will be Friday, March 6th from 7:00 a.m. to 3 p.m. at the service department, 4680 Lander Road. Orange Village Service Department has opened up the container drop off program the season. Visit the website for more information. Everyone remember this weekend is daylight savings time. It begins on Sunday. Please remember to turn your clocks forward one hour. This is also a good time to change the batteries in your smoke detectors. Take advantage of that pneumonic device to remind yourself to do so. Um I want to talk for a minute on a new fire station and village hall res renovation uh project which is um moving forward through our design team will be presented next uh Thursday March 12th at 7 p.m. at Village Hall. We're looking for input from the community uh as an opportunity to engage the design team and and consider ideas that they may or may not have considered in the process and address the design that they are currently uh working on. As you know, this project will require u a bond issue to uh move forward. Uh it's essential that we complete the design

and the budgeting for the project so that we can come to councel and look to create the millillage that would be necessary for a bond issue that would be placed on the ballot in November. So there'll be a number of further discussions about this going forward

and the uh and the budget in place. We'll be able to better understand and recognize what the actual cost is to the village and how we will then have to pay for it. And this meeting next Thursday will give the residents an opportunity to see what the project is about here, why we're moving forward this way, why it's important that we take up this project and and move it forward at this time. Uh there also will be an ordinance next week concerning a usage fee for the pavilions and Wedell room as well as the current deposit. We have a great deal of demand for our facilities. Uh the community very much is clamoring to use the Malke pavilion and and Wedell room for private events and we want to be able to deliver that in a way that is fair and reasonable. They've become very popular and the fee will support the administrative expenses required for booking, payment and oversight of the area as well as the additional cleaning of facilities by the service department following uh events. We would like to then suspend the rules for this ordinance because we currently have a number of people that would like to reserve these facilities for the year and therefore we would like to get the the costs on the books so people know what it is that we're charging for the use of those facilities. The Kyhoga County Soil and Water Conservation District will host a tree care workshop on Sunday, March 15th, beginning at 10:00 a.m. at Pepper Pike. visit our website for more information and to register. Um I want to thank again I want to thank everybody in the community for their well wishes and cards um as I recover from this surgery. Um a couple other things I want to make note of. Uh I've made an application to the state by annual budget for funding to enable the

village to restore, expand, and redevelop the amphitheater facility. The capital fud budget funds brick and mortar projects for local communities and we have an opportunity to be included in that budget and I've uh prepared an application that has gone to our state rep and will go to others uh for their endorsement and consideration in the state u bianual budget. Um, I have also requested that our veterans committee consider an event or program in honoring Orange Village veterans on the 250 50th celebration of the United States. We will get back to residents when we hear from them as to what they think we should be considering. Um to your point on the uh zoning code, John, and and to others, uh I some weeks ago asked our village planner and our law director to look at our zoning code to look at areas of the code that are redundant or inappropriate or out of date or should be changed. uh they were going to begin to go through this process very uh in a very detailed way and look at what we might do and then come back to council for uh adoption of those um ordinances as the process goes forward. In the meantime, however, I was at a county mayors and managers meeting last Thursday at which time the county uh planning commission had introduced a process that they are beginning to create a unified zoning code for the region. And with that, they're looking to work with a number of different communities and looking at their various codes to see how they might integrate with this unified code that they're looking to produce. I've uh asked the county if they would consider including Orange Village as one of those community teams to be a part of that uh review. And uh we have further discussion on when and where that will happen. And

finally uh with the uh county planning commission some months ago year ago we uh engaged with the county to create a wayfinding signage program as it related to our community parks and getting um people through our community and around our community to the parks. Um they have been working very diligently on this and they're going to present to Orange the the Orange team um what they have uh produced at this point and to begin to move forward with design of potential signage that could be part of this process. Their um findings will presented at a meeting on March 11th here at Village Hall. Uh and uh the members of the the design review committee that have been working with the the county on this will have more to say about that at the meetings when we have more information on what they're doing.

That's all I have. Well, thank you. Spring, we're glad to have you back, mayor.

Are you suggesting that our zoning will have to be part of this county thing? No, they're they've offered an opportunity that I would like to take advantage of because it could involve a great deal of time and money if for our individual planner and our law director to go through this this whole thing when the county is going to be doing it for multiple communities. They're taking every, you know, they're taking all of these different zoning codes and they're overlaying them on each other and looking to see if they can develop a what would be called a regional unified code that every community would be able to use um with a set of clear and consistent definitions, set of clear and consistent um uses and applications of the code. I I think it's a a wonderful opportunity for us to take advantage of something that they're already underway with.

You would not I mean they do not have the authority to take away your authority. Anything if you choose to become part of this regional plan or what have you, you would have to enact legislation to cause that to occur. Thank you. Exactly.

And you're you're finished with your report and it leads straight into mine. So um Parks and Recreation has a representative um who is attending those meetings on wayfinding and bringing information back to the committee and when the committee has recommendations he's taking it back to that more countywide committee. Um so we will be seeing something eventually. I have no idea when though. Um, the other thing I wanted to talk about is you all received information that Anna compiled. Thank you, Anna. From other communities about wind regulation, wind I don't know what what what do you call

wind energy

wind energy regulations or what's required in different communities. So, if we digest that this week, maybe we can talk about it next week. And then finally, I received some more feedback about some problems with dogs off leash still in our park paths behind village hall here. Uh, in specific, this one was an autistic child is constantly um feeling harassed by dogs that are consistently off leash. the and um I would like uh Chief Roberts to comment on this.

Um last year, my first full year as chief, we made a pretty good effort to warn everyone. This is where we were headed and this year we are prepared and I've already directed the officers. Um a citation for this is what's expected now when it's when they're met with it. I don't say zero tolerance because there's always room for some explanation, but we're close. Um, I agree that there's a a law for a reason and it needs to be followed. Yeah. Thank you.

I'm sorry, uh, Lisa, is the new dog park space. I don't know when that's going to be available so that there is a place that the dogs can run off leashing. un uh Bob Zugan would have a better date, but we are hoping, whether permitting, to have that open in the spring sometime. So, they have a little bit of work to do on that. Mayor, do you have better information than that?

I gave a little bit of because I talked to Bob about it about a week ago. Um the biggest um piece of the work that has to get done in order to make the um dog park operational is getting the the fence installation done and they're currently working with the fence contractor to set up a schedule. Winter has been kind of crazy. We're hope you know hope that we got to the end of that and they're looking to schedule um the fence installation and there's three components of that. uh there's the that will be part of it. We're also looking to work interestingly enough. We have uh been meeting with the uh folks at TriC's landscaping program and they're going to be putting in some pavers in there with a dog bone in the middle of it to mark the entrance to the dog park.

That's and and they'll have they're going to design that and they'll install that did our pavers out here.

Yeah. The same group. Yeah. the same group that did the pavers around the flag pole and did the pavers at the Singer Pavilion last summer is going to do this work. And so I expect that we'll probably see the dog park operational um in late spring. And can you send me that information from Trice because um I'll take that to our parks and recck committee who is also working at trying to find artists who would be able to contribute to our dog park too. But hopefully back to Amanda's comments, this would help eliminate some of the walking off leash, but I'm afraid that unfortunately tickets might need to be insued and um thank you for pursuing that.

The charge, what do they what is it called? It's the leash law. Um I don't have it right in front of me. I don't know if we can look it up, but um it's the leash law violation. I think it's 175 or 200 off the top of my head, but I Steve is going to look. Um, it's a it's it's become a real nuisance. I have heard more complaints about that than I probably have ever received about any topic. I remember campaigning somebody actually a couple people giving me an earful about how they thought it was unfair that they had to have a their a leash on their dog. I know

we when we have the larger dog park, you know, that they'll be able to stretch their legs. And that's the way we're going to try to market it is if you want your dog off leash, go back in here.

So dogs at large is a misdemeanor. the fourth degree for the first offense and the misdemeanor third degree for a second offense. A fourth degree misdemeanor is punishable by a fine of up to $250 and up to 30 days in jail. First offense, they're not going to give jail time, but that's the level of of severity. And then third degree is up to $500 fine and up to 60 days of jail. If if there's if there's an attack, then it rises to a first-degree misdemeanor, which is up to six months in jail. So, is menacing in there? Like, so a dog got into a baby carriage at one point and was growling.

What? Had a child. Yeah, that was a complaint. Yeah. That is that menacing? I'm I'm just kind of trying to play police officer here. You're menacing to me. I mean, I it's more threat. I don't know that we have I don't know that we have dog. Okay. So, I I would just suggest that misdemeanor if anybody's injured.

I would just suggest that I I think most dog owners have experienced at least once when their dog uh got out got out, ran away, and they're running around the neighborhood trying to get their dog back. And to the extent that, you know, no one's harmed and that happens and the owner is trying to get them back that we would not ticket somebody in that kind of a situation because it wasn't they weren't purposely letting them out without a leash. This and I I just want to you know none of the incidents I have heard about have anything to do with that kind of Yeah, I I understand that. I'm just suggesting though that

um they believe that they should be allowed to walk off leash great. No, and I get that and I everybody thinks that their dogs are great and I think mine's great, too. But he has um occasion, you know, when he was younger escaped and we were running around the neighborhood chasing him, trying to get him back. So, it does happen. So, I just hope that we will consider that and not ticket people when they're, you know, trying to get their dogs under control.

Okay. Thank you. Uh I am going to move on to committee reports. Let's start with you, Mrs. Vincent. Good evening everyone and welcome back mayor. Hope my voice holds off for this. Um once again it was a privilege to sit on the charter review meeting um last Monday, a week ago Monday. Um a great deal of time goes into every line and discussion and I just want to thank Scott and Rifka and the commission once again for the work you're doing. It's really interesting, fascinating. I know we'll hear about it eventually, but if you have a chance to go to one of the meetings, it'd be well worth the time. Uh the group meets again on March 9th and then on March 30th, usually it's the 2nd and 4th, but because of the spring break, it's going to be on the 30th instead. So if anyone wants to attend, um our arts and culture committee met last night and planned out a rough schedule for the year ahead. Our market dates are finalized for the second Saturday of each month between June and October with the exception of um we will be on September 5th due to the Jewish holiday on the 12th. Um there will also be two pop-up markets on the Orange School's campus. first on May 2nd and then the holiday market on December 5th. Uh we're once again inviting each of the seven committees to take their seven dates. So if everybody wants to take one to host, it doesn't have to be you. It could be one of your committee members. It's a great way to get your information out to the general public. We have really nice turnouts at these. Uh provide information, sit for a couple hours, and then enjoy the the uh market yourself. Um please let me know which day you would like. First come, first serve. and uh you could do as much with it or as little with it as you want, but it'd be nice to get each committee there. Um we're in the process of setting up our amphitheater concert series. We've decided on three again this year. Um we're anticipating one concert in June reflective of the Junth celebrations. We're working with the band right now. Um price break, but um they need a sound system. So this might play into if we get that grant that would be awesome. um

because we don't have a sound system of our own, but we're we're working through that. Um we're also going to have one in July likely focusing on the orange going red, white, and blue in honor of the semi-quin centennial. Um and hopefully we can work with the veterans committee on that one as well. Uh maybe more of a patriotic or a military band or something like that performing. And then in August, we're hoping back again. Uh great turnout last year. Wonderful band and we're working with them right now on dates that they're available. Looks like the June and July will probably be Thursday night events and the replay will probably be a Friday or Saturday subject to our um services department dates are okay. If anybody knows of any cover bands or entertainers that would fit the bill for any of these, we are trying to keep them somewhat thematic. Um please let me know. We're we're very interested in getting um especially if they're local, but even if they're not um and working within our budget to bring them in. Uh we do hope to lock in a schedule at our meeting next month which will be Tuesday, April 7th. Uh that meeting will also be accessible via Zoom if anyone would like to join us but can't make it to Village Hall. Excuse me. We're also looking to reprise our light up orange for the holidays event. Uh hopefully we're going to do that a little bit earlier this year and hopefully with better weather, but you know that's one thing you can't pay for. So um stay tuned on that and uh we'll get everybody involved. Again, um I do want to remind everybody to sign up for and read your Orange Village e newsletter. It is chalk full of such important dates and information. I want to thank Anna for her work on putting that all together. So much of what the mayor said was in there. Um but if you don't have it yet, you're not signed up. Please sign up for that. It's wonderful. Um I want to thank Bob Zugan for his help with the president's question about gas bills and company selection and the mayor's involvement despite his surgery on that. I appreciate it. And I also got a very nice message from one of our residents who wanted to thank Chief Go Chenova and his crew for their efficient and generous response to one of her neighbors on Lander Road recently. She wanted me to share how kind and responsive they were in a very difficult

situation. Um and she said it was noted by everybody around just how gracious they were. So thank you um to all of your staff for all you guys do. That's all I have.

Thank you Stacy. Um uh Amanda, would you like to go next? The sustainability and resilience um committee meets on the second Tuesday of every month. So it'll be next week the 10th at 7 p.m. here at Village Hall um in the Woodell room. I really encourage everyone who's available to come to these meetings because they're really interesting. Um it's a very wide umbrella that we cover from protecting natural resources to recycling to solar or wind energy and so many other things that are sort of in that vein. Um and they really tend to be very educational and and um but in an in at least I think they're really interesting. So people will come and attend. The mayor usually comes and

can and we have a pretty good discussion typically. So urge everyone to come. Um the other thing I wanted to say is that I think this first call program is really a good idea. I think it's really exciting and I'm really um happy that Kim presented it to the village. Thank you. All right. Um Kim, would you go next?

Um the Orange Cares meeting the Orange Cares Committee meeting is Tuesday, March 10th at 7 PM and that's in this room at Village Hall. um not to conflict with the year. So, unfortunately, those two committees always conflict that the meeting times, but that is what it is. Um Kowanas, the next meeting is um March 18 at 7 p.m. at the Orange Senior Center. Great opportunity to get involved um in our community. Um and thank you, Amanda. I'm super excited for the First Calls program. It's going to be a really great program for our um residents and employees and we will keep um updating um council and and our residents as things develop with that. And I'm very appreciative that um the county has found some money to help with that cost as well, which is a a good benefit for us. Um and then the final thing is International Women's Day, March 8th, to celebrate all of the women of the world. we are, you know, take a take a moment and you know to celebrate your women and women to celebrate your ourselves. So, happy spring.

Every day in the boil house is women. On a much more uh serious note, um there's an orange family that is very close to the boil family, the lurries. Um they're having a very difficult health situation. And to those that are spiritual or anything, keep Steve Lurie in your thoughts and prayers. He is a true gentleman in all sense the words and it's been a very difficult time for Amy, his wife, and and the two sons. So, just um positive thoughts for Steve. Second that. And uh that's all I have for tonight. Oh, thank you.

Okay. Um I would no executive session. Make that motion. the I can got to get the purposes out. Really? I put it all away. Let's go. Yeah, I know who we need, but what's the purpose? Dana, you have an agenda. Okay. Um, for the purpose of prospective and pending litigation, the appointment, compensation, resignation of village employees. Do I have a motion, please? Kim made the motion. and I'll second. I'll make a motion. How about second over here? Thank you,

Stacy. And we'll adjourn in uh now. And I would like to include uh Dana Chief Roberts and of course everybody else. She should have Brian Mater and Ryan Mater. Thank you. Lisa, will there be business after? Nope. There'll be no business after. Anna, can you call the role? Vincent, yes. Kurland, yes. Yes.

Bilski, yes. Yes. Thank you. Let's um I'll give us about three or