City Council - Regular Meeting

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And we have the invocation from Mike Carroll, Valicia County Sheriff's Office.

It's always an honor to be here. Thank you. Thank you. Yes, sir.

God, we thank you for another day you've blessed us with. We're grateful, Lord. Thank you for the strength and health you've given our bodies. We thank you for that. We pray now for this council, for the mayor and the city council that you would guide and direct their steps and their thoughts. Give them wisdom. Give them insight. Give them understanding. Give them clear direction. Help them as they do the business of this city. Thank you for this city. Bless it. Watch over it. Protect it. And keep it safe. Thank you for our first responders are even out there right now keeping an eye on things in this city and watching over it. Protect them and their families and keep them safe. Bless them and speak peace over them. We pray. Touch this city, continue to cause it to prosper. And we thank you in the name of Jesus. Amen.

Amen. to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you.

Okay. Number one, absences 1 A. Shall the absence of Mayor Kelly Marks from the February 10th, 2026 city council meeting be excused? [snorts] Madame Mayor, I'll make a motion to um excuse the absence of Mayor Marks. I second. We have a motion. We have a second [clears throat] [snorts] yes. Yes.

Yes. Um, the absence of excused. And then we're moving on to 1B. The abs shall the absence of council member Dana Knight from the February 10th, 2026 city council meeting be excused. Madame Mayor, I like to make a motion to excuse the absence of uh Councilwoman Dana. Second. We have a motion. We have a second. Kaylee, can you call a question? [snorts] Yes. Yes. Yes. [snorts]

Yes. Yes. And the absence of council member Knight has been excused. Moving on to two presentations and proclamations to a Halifax Health UF Health Medical Center presentation. Uh Ben Ebby Halifax Health will be presenting. [snorts] Welcome. Thank you. Good evening. Thank you, uh, Madame Mayor, vice mayor, council members, staff. Appreciate the opportunity to be here, uh, and present this evening. If you have one, that would be great. All right. Perfect.

All right. Well, I'm here tonight to give you an update on Halifax Health and specifically the Medical Center of Deltona, but like to start out from a higher level um to kind of give some perspective and history um on our organization. So, always starting with our mission at Halifax Health, which is to be the community healthc care leader. And we do this through the um exceptional talent that we have, the staff in our organization to deliver superior patient- centered care and to do this in a financially sustainable manner. So we can be around for another 98 years. We were founded in 1928.

98 years ago. Actually in 1925 a group of residents from Valuchia County went to Tallahassee to advocate for health care services in Valuchia because none existed. And as a result of that, it created the Halifax Health District, uh, which is still who we are today at Halifax Health 98 years later after the hospital was built. So, we're a public entity. Uh, we're a safety net hospital. And there's just a summary there of some of the stats of of our size. Um, also like to draw attention to the level of care that we have. Everything that's listed here, um, is the highest level of care in Valuchia County. And we're working, some of this already is in West Valuchia. We're working to bring all of this highest level of care uh to West Faluchia also so the residents here do not have to leave. So a list of many of our specialties that we have uh we have over 60 specialties at Halifax Health and many of those are in partnership with UF Health um to bring the best highest level of care to Valuchia County. This is just an a some a sample of uh the care that we provided in the last year and this is our systemwide uh number of ER visits, admissions, surgeries, births and like to draw attention to the uncompensated care that we provide. Usually it's between 40 last year was just over 41 million. We're usually between 40 and 60 million of uncompensated care a year at cost um that we give back to the community. And because we are a communityowned public safety net hospital, everything we make gets invested back into the community and stays right here in Valuchia County. Uh we received a couple stroke designations. One of those at the Medical Center of Deltona the first year that we were a primary stroke center, we received the gold plus award. So we're we're proud of that and and the care that we're bringing to West Faluchia. We have three hospitals. Daytona Beach, 98 years old, Port Orange, celebrating our 20th year there this year. and uh the medical center of Deltona. We just had our six-y year anniversary a couple of weeks ago. But Halifax Health is so much more than the with what happens within

the walls of our hospitals. We have many primary location care locations across the county. Uh pediatrics uh we have express care locations across the county. We have partnership with Brooks Rehab for inpatient and outpatient rehab. And then we have a five-star home health agency. And the top rated most recommended hospice in Central Florida is Halifax Health. There are five hospice agencies in Valuchia County. Make sure you ask for Halifax if you or your family ever need hospice services because we provide the highest level of care um among all of the competitors. They're not all the same. We're we're expanding and building new things. In 2025, we um expanded our inpatient rehab facility. We added a neuroscience center of excellence, the first in Central Florida to bring all of the neurosciences together into one location. So, you don't have to go around uh to different agencies and have multiple referrals. So it all happens in one location. And then we expanded some of our surgical specialties too to oncology and and endocrine u which are both available at the corner of Deltona. We also built a couple of new freestanding emergency departments uh last year. One in Port Orange, one in North Daytona on Hand Avenue and uh looking at options for future expansion there also. Now getting to the medical center of Deltona. Um so about 10 years ago we were asked to come to West Valuchia to provide an option uh for healthc care services on this side of the county and uh then about eight years ago we built the freestanding emergency department. Six years ago we we built and opened the hospital and since all of that happened we've seen over 155,000 people through our emergency department. We've admitted over 12,000 people in our hospital and we've performed over 9,000 surgeries. So the need is there. West Valuchia is growing, expanding, and we're here to grow and expand with it. And we're, as you can see on the map there, right in the center of West Valuchia. That was intentional so that we can provide, we're the medical center of Deltona, but we're right in the center of West Valuchia here for all of the residents um including those in Orange City, which we see many of.

So, some of the new things that we brought to the medical center of Deltona uh within the last year, we added um oncology with our cancer center of hope. We added pulmonology function testing. We became a primary stroke center. We added pain medicine. And we became a beriatric center of excellence. And then this year we're adding neurosurgery, urology, recruiting for interventional cardiology um and we're adding pediatric primary care. So every year we're adding more and more services um until we can expand to provide full extensive uh highest level of care here. Um, also last year we started our expansion and we'll be finishing this up next month. Uh, we are growing our emergency department by adding 19 additional exam rooms. So we'll be a 30 bed emergency department and we're adding 47 additional inpatient rooms. So we'll be 90 inpatient beds in our hospital. We're full almost all the time right now. So these are very much needed. Construction will be completed next month and then certification um the following month. So, we're anticipating all of this will be open in April. And then when this grows, we built the hospital so that we can add three more stories on top of our tower and we can double again and add another 90 inatient beds on three more stories. So, just a couple pictures here to show you. This this red square here is is where we're building out the existing emergency department uh to expand into the shell space that we had. Um couple of before and during pictures. It's almost complete now. And then this is our fourth floor ICU. The shaded area is what exists currently. The colored area is what we are adding in the 17 more rooms on that floor. And then the sixth floor was completely empty and that is now being built out for these 30 additional beds. And then like to end with some exciting news. We were voted in the best of Deltona and West Palia awards as the best healthc care facility, the best surgical center, and a couple of our physicians. Dr. Rhodess was voted best orthopedic surgeon and Dr. was voted best physician in in primary care.

Uh so we've got three primary care physicians there. We're adding a pediatric primary care physician this year um to to serve the community and looking for options to grow and expand in West Valuchia. So thank you for partnering with us. Um we appreciate the opportunity to serve the residents of Orange City. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Any questions from the council? Okay, thank you so much.

Okay, moving on to 2B, temporary signage presentation. Joe Ruiz.

Good evening, Mayor, City Council, respective members of the public. Joe Ruiz, development services director for city of Orange City. Um, just want to note for the record, this jacket's fitting me a little um little a little more loose thanks to the fitness challenge. So if there's any competition out there, then um just [clears throat] sending that message. Um so uh before you all today, I'm just doing a land development code uh sign code presentation uh for section 9.12, specifically temporary signs. Uh a matter of months ago, uh the mayor had requested to for staff to bring a presentation um to um discuss with the city council our current code um so we can um just have that orientation and that that discussion there. Um, so, um, hopefully some of you like the touch with the OC connect banner and things like that that I have on there. Um, and as well as some images that you're going to see that pulled directly out of our code sections um, to kind of just have that conversation and and have a a 101 of our temporary signs, which I will say that um, this actually was a a great exercise for me because I'm not always in the sign code section. We have a planner, Renee, who's uh, in this every day all day long. Um and so for me it was good to kind of revisit and and retouch on our code and and get prepared for tonight. Uh so with uh 9.12 the section overview essentially when you look at our code section it kind of establishes what what the code is intended for. Um and so when we look through it it's intended to regulate signs for limited display periods requires removal of uh these signs after expiration of approved use um or designated time in the code. Um we'll kind of get into more discussion. Some u signs require permits, others don't, right? Um however, there are regulations that have to be abided by in order to keep those signs and remain in keeping with the code. Um commercial temporary signs require sign review permit unless they are exempted within the code.

Right? And so when you look through the sections and when you look through 9.12, there are areas in the code that will tell you a permit is not required. Um and so requirements also differ between residential and multif family um and non-residential districts. Um usually when you when we talk signage um signage is a an identifier, right? It's a it's a locator. Um people invest in it, people want it because they want people to be able to typically see their businesses, um see where they're located, if if they've have any promotions, um if they have any grand openings. um that signage is important for identifying um that business that that has relocated to the city. Um or if they have seasonal sales or some type of event that's going on, a lot of times you will see signage um at our special events. Um and our code does uh comp contemplate that. Um and so when we look at the temporary sign code, it really applies to all zoning districts, right? It applies throughout the city. Um there are different restrictions for uh residential and commercial. Um because obviously in the residential areas, there's no businesses and and we want to keep that right more nice and tidy. And then in our commercial districts, we do have provisions uh where our code also does a good job at trying to keep those um those areas tidy and neat. Um does everyone comply? No. Uh we see that um we see it throughout. And so we we try to educate, we try to talk with business owners to kind of bring them into compliance. Um you may have seen uh Justin uh our PIO has been putting out um informative notices and things like that online and so staff has been working with him on that sign campaign and we've also been discussing about maybe knocking on doors and talking with businesses and orienting them um and giving them kind of that orientation of our code to say hey that sign you got out there doesn't really comply um but we can work with them right so how many know OC is the place to be right OC is the place [laughter] to

Um, so a little touch I wanted to put on there. And so, um, despite zoning, residential standards apply if property is used residentially. So, in our code, we have provisions for commercial properties to have residential uses, right? So, if they do have a conditional use as residential or if it's a non-conforming residential use, then we would apply the residential standards in our temporary sign code. Um, and then as mentioned, signs require permits unless otherwise stated. Uh so when we look at the general standards um a lot of the non-compliance that you will see many times with like snipe signs and things like that are always going to be those that are placed in the public rightway. Um public rightway placement of signs is a no no for safety purposes for aesthetic purposes. Um there's many reasons why not to you know you run up and down different municipalities and different codes that's usually keep the signs out of the rightway right. Um, so, u, one of those info kind of graphics that Justin has put together is just that kind of shows you, all right, typically your rightway line is on the other side of the sidewalk, right? So, that would be a violation, but if you keep it on your property with with permits, um, then you can you can have those. Um, also, uh, in the general standards, there are setback requirements for these signs. Um, you know, it's not just because we we can't have it there, but there's there's science and there's methodology behind that, right? There is there's uh site visibility uh for the corners. Um there's there's aesthetic purposes, there's corridor viewhed purposes um as to why we have setbacks, there's pedestrian uh safety and things like that. Um you really don't want a feather flag hitting someone right while while they're walking down the sidewalk and things like that. Um so there's reasons as to why we have setbacks for for these signs. Um they must meet building code when appropriate. Um, you know, typically, um, there's different standards for different signs. If it's a banner and you've got it adjusted to your building, um, then that's perfectly fine. Um, if

you have a feather flag that's kind of out in the area, um, out in the in the the front of your property, per se, um, then typically we look for anchoring of those types of signs so that they're not flying off and running, you know, in front of vehicles and things like that. Um, there are material requirements based on size and so also cardboard is not allowed, right? I'm sure you've seen poster board signs out there. Um, typically that's a no no and that's not allowed. Um, and then changeable panel signs can be used, which to me that was this was one one of those things where I refreshed and learned and I'm like, oh, if you've got a if you've got a a changeable sign where you can slide in and out things, um, you can actually pull a permit. to use that changeable uh panel um for for temporary signage for a sale and event and things like that. So um I'm I'm glad our code does have that in there and that contemplation. So when we look there there are the the general provisions for short-term signs. I'm going to kind of go through each type. Um they are for typically daily display and removal, right? So the intent is for you to put it out there while your hours of operation, while the business is going on, while the business is open so that you can attract your clientele and let people know that you're open for business. Uh but then you know they they should be removed right u for the purposes of putting them away so that u once once sunset comes you know once the business is closed we kind of keep our our corridor our corridor clean. Um most of these signs are allowed for a maximum period of 14 days and um they do require proper attachment and anchoring, right? We can't just have signs willy-nilly floating around. Um so when we look, one of the um types of signs are banners, feather flags, probably one of the the most popular that that you see out there. Um you you there are a few that are out there that have been out there for a while that are not permitted um along our 1792 corridor. Uh those are one of the those are the sites that we want to kind of reach out to and let

them know, hey, it's not that you can't have these. They just can't be permanent, right? They can't sit out there all the time. Um so usually they are permitted um with grand openings, special events, promotional events. Um they must be attached to buildings, knee walls, or if it's a feather flag, it must be properly anchored. Um they are they are um allowed up to 24 square feet maximum size. So your typical 8 by3 um or however other size it's framed 12 x two and those um can be up for up to 45 days for a new business, right? For a new business. Um there are permitting requirements and separation requirements as far as time. They could be up for 14 days if it's not uh one of these special um events. Um but then they there has to be a separation of time between when you can put it up again. I believe it's 30 days. um it is a lot to absorb. So if if I misquote um I'm not going to say it's verbatim from the code. This is where I'm going off of memory. But there is a separation period of when you can have if if you've got a feather the flag or if you've got a banner, you can have it up for it time to take it down for a certain amount of days before you can apply again to put it put it back up. So there is that window. So it does not remain permanent, right? Um we do see it very commonly as mentioned with special events and seasonal sales. Um, you know, a lot of people misinterpret the seasonal sales code. Um, they think, you know, if they're they're an auto parts store and they want a seasonal sales to sell beef. Um, well, that's really not part of your business and um it's just a vendor that wants to come to your site and and make some money, which is fine, right? Uh we're we're country of capitalism. However, our code does not allow that. Now, if if you have a boutique shop or something like that and it's uh Valentine's Day and you want to have a seasonal sales and then you want to have a sign in association to that to sell baskets and things like that for Valentine's Day, flowers. Absolutely. Right. Staff will review that, make sure that it's in compliance and that the

signage that is applied for, right, meets meets that criteria. Uh so, typically it's associated with an event or sales permit. Uh incidental signs allowed uh with site plans uh with standards for wall and freestanding signs. Uh, one of the most common ones most recently was the Manatee Festival, right? You went out to the Manatey Festival. They had different banners out there. There was a site plan associated with the Manatee Festival event. And so, you can see um where they're place placing those signs. Staff reviews that and we we approve it in accordance with the special event. And so, it is for the period of that that special event specifically. Um other signs that that we allow which um this is probably one of my one of my favorites that that our code has provisions for and it's for sandwich and sideboard uh sidewalk signs board signs, right? If you've got a restaurant, if you've got a a company where you know you're near a lot of pedestrian activity and people walking by your business, um hey, who doesn't want cupcakes, right? Or who doesn't want to know what the soup of the day is or what the special uh is for that day? Um, and so our code really allows, right, for people to put those out there and then bring them in. Um, part of that is they can blow over. Um, you know, we don't want them just sitting out. I think business owners honestly bring them in anyway because they don't want them stolen, right? And as they're out in the open. Uh, so for these, no permit is required when they are brought in daily. Uh, that one is allowed per business. Um, they are a maximum allowed of six square feet per side. So it can be double-sided. Um and then no detachable letters or illumination are allowed for it. Right? So it can't u attract undo attention. And then the detachable letters sometimes they fall off, they blow off and things like that. So um you know um right where they sell sandwiches, it might say sand itch, right? Different different things. Um so to to kind of just keep that aesthetic. Um they must be placed on private sidewalks and uh

within 10 feet of entryway. Um, so a lot of times you will see these by the public right away and by the public sidewalks. Technically they're they're not allowed to be there. Um, it has to be 10 feet from the entryways. Um, they must not obstruct pedestrian access and also there is one foot separation from curbs wherever they place so that someone's not hitting it or knocking it over. Um, one of the other ones I learned about which which uh, as I went through this I was like, "Wow, I didn't know that our code had for mascots and and animated characters, right? It was it was uh it was eye opening and and uh interesting to see because one I don't we really don't get requests for for mascots or or um the other provision in that same animated character is that they can wear shirt with the business name on there right one square foot um who's really telling the size I don't know but right they can have a shirt with with with that u what they cannot do is is have like the the sign waivers and the sign spinners and things like that just because it you you know, it's it can be a safety hazard. It detracts from from uh the aesthetic and it's it's kind of it can get it can be a nuisance if if you know, there's a ton of that. Uh special event or during business hours only, they're allowed. Um right, so mascot can't be out there at 10 o'clock at night advertising a business. Um uh just like the sidewalk and sandwich board signs, uh they are required on private sidewalks to be on private sidewalks or improved surface. They can't just be standing in the grass and they've got to be within 10 feet of an entryway. Um, and this is allowed during daylight hours and there are height and width restrictions that the code does specify. Uh, so like the mascot can't have the stilts where they're, you know, 15 feet tall and things like that. Um, so there there are requirements for that. Um, the other types of fi signs are open to the public. um signs that you can see. Um if um Mr. John is trying to do a

yard sale on Saturday, um they're allowed to put certain signs out on their property. A lot of times the issue you we encounter with these is that they've got them at the corner of the street. They've got them down on 1792 or Saxon or the entryway of their community or whatever whatever street they live on. Uh but these need to be right placed on private property uh their property wherever they're doing this this yard sale or wherever the um property is for sale. Uh one is allowed per site up to three square feet maximum um and a height maximum of three feet. Two are allowed by permit. Um if if they do pull a permit then two are allowed and they're restricted to 9 in x 24 in and two feet in height. U so you can have more it's just reduced size. Uh extended duration. Uh for example, for sale, lease and or rental of properties. Uh for residential signs, one is allowed per property and three square feet maximum. Um and then the height varies depending on the sign style. Uh for multif family and non-residential, those standards are a little different, right? The multif family non-residential usually larger scale buildings, larger scale sites. um what is allowed per property and then essentially the size that they can have that short-term sign. If there's a sale, there's a lease, someone's trying to get occupants and tenants um into their into their their business suites. Uh then it's all dependent on the the size of the of the site, less than an acre, between an acre and five acres or greater than five acres. It incrementally goes up 12, 16, 20 square feet, but is still at a max height of six feet. Um others are extended duration. Um and these are the general standards for those same general duration. Um it is one side allowed per rideway frontage. So if it's a site that has, you know, it's on a corner of a road, two roadways, um then they can have one per rideway frontage. There's a 90-day

duration uh with a 10-day takedown. So they can put it up for those 90 days. Um if they do get a tenant, if they do sign a lease, someone's occupying it. Um, and they've got 10 days to take that down, right? Um, tempor temporary entrance signs are allowed per subdivisions. Um, and the subdivision or the multif family development has to be either a minimum of 12 lots or 12 units. Um, so, for example, um, Liberty Station, right? Um, they have their entrance signs when you come in promoting that the houses are for sale and that they have those feather flags. Um typically on occasions like that we we have site plans that we allow them to to submit so that we know where the signs are going. Um in this instance one of the conversations to be had is with them because they we have accepted their infrastructure right. Um and so um at this point now just like that occupancy rule they've got to start to remove those and take those out because the infrastructure has been completed. Um, so yeah, the we've got the the the flailing sign. I just wanted to put that out there as a touch. Uh, forgot questions. Um, but we're going to X them out because those are not allowed in our city. Um, you know, when when we look at our our corridors, when we look at Saxon and we look at 1792, um, and and you know, Narita can attest to that because Narita goes out there and she's she's one of our our big volunteers and and alerts us and lets us know whenever these non-compliances occur. Uh, one of the biggest differences in distinguish dis distinctions that we can see is, you know, when you come into our corridors, yeah, we'll have the non-compliance um those that that are not going to comply here and there. Um, but it's it's not like when you drive up north towards um our neighbors to the north, right? Uh where you've got all these flags and all these banners and all these signs and um really when when we look at sign codes, it's what what do you want the look of your city to be like in the commercial

corridors? um do you want a peripher peripheration of signs or do you want it to be you know tight neat uh and and nice and um allow for businesses to advertise w with proper provisions and things like that. Um I did have a conversation months ago with our uh consultant on looking at um what their thoughts were with you know if the city were to open up the sign code and look at and change things. Um and one of the um discussions he had or the responses he had was the the biggest thing that were all is all lingering over all of us which is Senate Bill 180,

right? And he said, you know, from a consulting standpoint, um I would really not lax, right? Because you can't then you can't tighten if you needed to tighten things like that. Um obviously there's pending legislation out there to um shorten that that period and things like that. However, um signs are things that when you look at you want to you want to make sure that if you're amending the sign code and changing the sign code, it's really what you want and it's really well well thought on and contemplated. Um so at this time that ends my presentation on temporary signs. Um if there's any questions from the council, can you touch on the Senate Bill 180? What you meant by that? What? So if we go some if we go to a certain standard, we can't go back. Is that what you mean?

Yeah. If if with Senate Bill 180, anything that's more burdensome um and strict um and and our city attorney can can chime in if if I don't explain this well. um anything that we lacks, right? If we were to um relax the code and make it less stringent or less strict, um to try to if if something happens and and the city council finds they don't like it, um that what's going on out in the field, um then essentially to tighten back our our codes and our restrictions, uh we're we're limited by Senate Bill 180 to do that. So I know we we had this conversation Christine yourself and and myself and you know one of the scary things council was that if we we don't want our city to look trashy with all these signs either but um when I came on the council seven years ago a lot of businesses just being involved in the business world they were unhappy because they couldn't advertise their business the way they wanted to. And it was like, can we find a happy medium where we can help our businesses to thrive but also not turn our city into a a signed trashy looking city, right? Um, so that's why we had that conversation and and I asked to bring it forward was because there are certain things, one of the things that I had a question was like I've seen the the dancing guy

and what's the reason that we can't have that? Is it because of where they're placing it or is it like why do we not want that? I was just curious.

Um I think a lot of it is is the aesthetic and also the detraction from from drivers. Um you know it's when when you look at um our code and what what the provisions are. It allows for the banners. It allows for you know traditional type signs or or or you know signs that are true signs. Um, you know, the the only one that I kind of saw out of the box was that mascot one. Um, and so I I think uh truly to kind of keep a certain look and also to to you know, from a from a vehicle standpoint to keep safety, they can be distracting from from from the roadways. Um, and they they tend to clutter. You know, if you've got a row of people that have them, um, it creates that look and that clutter in the corridor.

And the the flutter flags, I'm sure you've seen a lot of flutter flags around lately. They're not cheap. They're about $100 each to be honest with you. And I think the businesses did that just to try to draw more businesses to their business. Um, but I was thinking, can we think outside the box, council, and maybe figure out a way to where they can put it out during business hours only and bring it in every day or something like that instead of leaving it out or or or limit how many they have, you know, they they they can't have 10 of them, you know, or or something that's a little more, like you said, easy to the eyes, but a little bit working with the businesses to make that happen. um because there is quite a few through Orange City all over the place. Um and like you said, you they're out there when you're trying to enforce them, but it's a it's a it's a huge job for enforcement to go out and and do that. Um, and then when we talked about this, it was like, well, we don't want yard signs all over the place because then it's just it takes away from everything that we've done up here to do our way finding signs and just to make our city look cleaner and nicer and a place you want to be, right? OC, the place to be.

So, um, so it was just a conversation and I' I'd like to hear from the council if anybody has any comments on that. Councilwoman Darmms, um, my question is what election signs. Oh, sorry. My my uh thought was what are what are the provisions or standards for election signs? So, um there is a a co-provision just so you know because it says 45 days a people are running for months. So,

yeah. Yeah. And and there is a provision for election signs. Um, traditionally, um, because of campaigning and and freedom of speech and things like that, I, you know, I don't want to misspeak, but I think the the city has has kind of, you know, let let that let that happen during the season that it's happening. Um, and then once elections are over, then if if any linger and things like that, then we we have code enforcement go out there. Um, so there are there are provisions for size placement um, and things like that in our code. Um but yes, so we the city we we we use discretion upon um monitoring those and enforcing those. And before we move

and if we have a complaint about a sign, we typically reach out to the individual responsible for the sign. We don't remove the sign. We work with what if there's a legitimate problem, we work with whomever that sign belongs to and we do relax and do not we do everything we can not to remove political signs while we're during that season in that campaign era.

And and just to emphasize too, um I want to say when when the when the sign code was changed um and and a lot of sign codes have changed due to um case law and and Supreme Court rulings and things like that. Um, a lot of times with with signs, um, we we cannot, and Paul can attest to this, we cannot regulate, right, speech or what it says. You can have a coffee shop that says, you know, free pizza, right? And it's not their business, but we we cannot regulate what the words they put on their on their signs, right? Um, with with certain exceptions, but um yeah, so we we try to when it comes to those, we you know, we use discretion.

Anybody else from council? I wonder I wonder you were talking about the flag signs like if they could take them in at night and stuff. I wonder if they have because I've only ever seen them like stuck in the ground. Do I wonder if they have you know those stands or something that's steady enough to hold them if they were allowed to do that? So the the flutter flags have a thing that goes in the ground and it can stay there and then you just remove the flag every day so it's not out. Um or you can remove the whole thing. It's it's very portable to be honest with you. But I know that Joe had said anchors are important and so that would be something that would have to be regulated that at least the the the main stand was anchored into the ground. Um, but I mean for me the biggest goal is just to help our businesses a little bit. Um, because a few years back, I don't know if you all remember, but we went through a a sign change. It was over a 20-year period, obviously, that they that Orange City wanted to change all the pole signs to um, what do you call this?

Monument signs. Monument signs. And so you know the the businesses were told they had I think 20 years to do that and it was is that right 20 years about 10 to comply right it was a long period it was a long period

and so we did lose some businesses that moved out of town because they were just family businesses that were devastated that they had to take down a sign that there was nothing wrong with um just because our city wanted monument looking signs more to look like winter park or winter Springs, wherever, you know, and so it really hurt some of our businesses. And then the other ones just complied and they weren't happy. And when we had the chamber in there that did all the surveys and and went around and talked to them, that was some of the feedback was is that you made me change a sign that I didn't even have to change. It was fine. But we were looking for a new look to clean up Barn City. Um, you know, 1792 had a lot of blight and um, I think, you know, the former council was just trying to make it look a nicer place to be and obviously it does look great. Um, but at this point a lot of the businesses, it's very expensive to advertise. So, um, we have a lot of small businesses in Orange City that could use some help. And so, um, but it's a it's a balance like you said, Joe. You don't want to give them too much and then we can't go back, right? We don't want it to look trashy, but maybe a baby step is what I'm saying. So,

and and staff has made reasonable determinations and accommodations. Um, you know, one of them was, for example, the family fun town. You know, when you look at the family funtown entrance, it's 300 ft off of the roadway. And so, I think at the very entrance, they had like a little feather flag. And so staff made the determination. You know, really the intent of our sign code is what you see, right? And from from public view and roadways. Um so you know at that time Becky made a determination and said it's in interior it's interior to and intrude to character of the business and so um we have worked with certain businesses when whenever you know questions or discretion so that if they have it on their front lawn then not necessarily out by the road then it's allowed.

Depends on visibility and location. Yeah. Yeah. For example, if if you've got a if you've got a building or if you've got a site that has an interior courtyard, um we're really not paying attention to the signs on the interior courtyard, right? Because it's not visible from the public. Um give it say in a hospital or something like that that has kind of that area. Um you know, we we use discretion upon how we apply the sign code in it and it's true to meet its true intent. So, okay. Any other comments or questions? Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Moving on to uh 2C Levit Avenue and Graves Avenue. Four-way stop presentation. John Peters. [snorts]

Good evening. John Peters, engineering services director. Um, if I could add into the previous conversation because I'm going to be talking about regulatory signs, but uh, one of the key things when we talk about signs, monument signs is regulatory signs are 5 ft off the ground. So, what we're trying to do is keep push private property signs below the 5 foot level. So, you can see the regulatory that's a very important uh, safety concern. So, I just wanted to add that Joe didn't say anything, but I wanted to jump in with to explain why monument signs became so popular with for that reason. Um, what I'm here to talk about is stop sign once and specifically um at Levit and East Graves. I can blame myself because when I did a presentation on the elevated intersection, I made reference to this intersection and it garnered a lot of questions. So, I'm here tonight to undo my damage. Um, in recent years, the city of Orange City public works department has received um an increased number of request for additional stop signs at various intersections throughout the city. As a result, staff has implemented a a stop sign warrant policy for the purpose of establishing a consistent engineering based and defensible process for reviewing stop sign requests. Florida statute primarily section 316745 mandates that the department of transportation established uniform system for traffic control devices that is signs, sizzles and marking for all public streets adhering the national uh manual uniform traffic control devices uh which is currently in its 11th edition. Uh the bottom line is the most important one. All local authorities must comply with this manual. It's state law.

Uh there's a copy at the front of the book. Uh section 2B of this uh manual for uniform traffic control devices establishes three wants. Accidents, traffic volume, and visibility. Um accidents is obvious what it is. Uh we when we get a request we make a request to the police department for two years worth of accident data. Uh once I receive them we evaluate it. Uh the key here is could the accident have been avoided had there been stop sign there. If not whether there were accidents. Give you a prime example. Uh I get an annual request for Carpenter in West French. We have a lot of accidents there. There people running stop signs. Uh putting up stop signs on French is not going to stop that. It's drivers being stupid. Uh we don't put stop signs up for drivers being stupid. Um we put stop signs on for things that are that can be improved by having everybody stop. Um then the traffic volume. Um traffic volume is generally over 300 vehicles a day on the side streets. The main street has to be well over 300. Um but it also is based on traffic speed. Uh one of the big lies that uh engineers tell you is that we don't put stop signs up to slow down traffic. Um that particular factor does. Um there is a difference distinction for over 30 miles an hour. So each graves even though it's supposed to be 30, we all know everybody goes faster than 30. So it met that want just on that factor. In addition, the

traffic volume on the side streets on Levit, both legs have well over 300 uh vehicles per day. So it also trips that factor. But even though two factors under the same one, it only counts as one warn. Um and at the case of Levit, uh because of school, um the churches, we have a higher than normal accident rate. We have a lot of pedestrian traffic there too. Uh so the accident level is very high. So I can tell you right now, we just met two wants on 11th and eighth grade, accidents and traffic volume. And then there's visibility. If somebody is stopped at a stop bar currently, uh, can they see down the road? Um, and the general rule of thumb is you get 9 ft behind, I mean six feet behind the stop bar and you look down the road and you need to be able to see generally 10 times the average speed. So somebody if the average speed is 30 miles an hour, you need to be able to see 300 feet down the road. Uh recently uh we had a request for North Thorp evaluating three intersections at Wisconsin. There is a very severe vertical curve uh to the west of that intersection. So when you're sitting on Thorp um looking on Wisconsin, you cannot see 300 feet looking to the west. So that tripped at one. Uh so that particular intersection due to volume and u sight distance met the requirement for stop sign. It now is a four-way intersection stop intersection. So in the case of Levit and East Grave there great visibility. Uh that was not a warrant that met, but the first two war uh warrants were met. And as I said on the very bottom there, at least two

warrants must be met um in order to justify additional stop sign. You can have I believe uh a couple of them have like three factors on the traffic volume. There's three different factors. Uh you can have all three, but it only counts as one. Uh you can't have three accidents and meet the requirement for two once. All right. So to make my life easier um developed the spreadsheet to uh go through the this is all the uh requirements. You can see that uh under the first one there's three different requirements. Under the second one there's two different requirements and under the third one there's two different requirements. Uh we go through each one of those with every uh accident request. Um now what's important here uh that people need to understand is we keep these on file and we go back um it may qualify now uh but down the road know if the elevated intersection at Oak does a wonderful job flowing people down and we lose know we fall below 30 miles an hour u we might have a situation I doubt it'll ever happen we might have a situation where know the Uh stop signs on Levit and Graves are not warranted, but like I said, I don't think that will ever happen. Um we have uh everything in place for this to go fourway on Thursday. Um I want to do a shout out to Alan Williams, our public works manager. Uh he managed to find some LED um stop lights, stop signs. They have the LED around the outside of it. They're solar powered. Uh they will be in tomorrow.

So when we go live on Thursday, they will be uh LED lit. So uh one of my concerns was at night there's not a whole lot of street lights in the area. Uh it it's going to be hard to see. Well, guess what? with the LED, they won't be able to say they didn't see it. Um, so, um, a shout out to Allan for, uh, going because when I look for them, I couldn't get anything in less than two weeks. So, I'm going to find out from where where he got them. Um, but that's where we are and that's it. You have any question for me? Please don't give me any more intercession, [laughter] please.

Thank you. Okay. So, did uh so the one at Graves that's covered up right now, the one at Graves and Levit, the signs are in place. We had bags over them. Yeah. They will replace those signs with the LED ones. So, very first thing Thursday morning is what I understand.

And uh we had message board letting people know we have a new uh situation. Uh just so everybody know, we did put it up um on Friday. Uh we were getting It was interesting. Uh the police department was monitoring it. People were complying, but we were getting complaints. So, we decided we would take it down. Uh give people a week to see the message board so they can expect it. And luckily, we had the LED versions and uh like I said, they will have no excuse not to stop. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

Okay. Moving on to citizens comments. Sharon Stafford. [clears throat]

Good afternoon everyone. Sharon Stanford. I'm just here because again I want to cordially invite you. Can you start the clock? Thank you.

I just want to uh cordially invite you on to the multicultural festival on Saturday, but we just understanding that that's a 90% rain chance. So, I am going to be working with the city to see how we can reschedu that time, but I had already made these invitations out before we looked at the weather. So, I will give you an update accordingly. Thank you. Thank you, [clears throat]

Melissa Dethornne. Good evening, council. My name is Melissa Thorne. I'm your neighbor from unincorporated Dand and it's cancer awareness month, specifically liver cancer and colurectal cancer. And so I'm here to share a little insight on liver and colorectile cancer and how it could be related to toilet to tap. Flukes are parasites. They're flatworms. They're prevalent in livestock, which is also found in your rare steak, raw fish or undercooked fish like your sushi, domestic animals like your dog who you may kiss, and then in humans, it's found in feces, urine, and sputum. It's not able to be killed by micriltration or reverse osmosis or advanced oxidation or UV light. Those are all the things that we use to treat our wastewater. They are only killed by three different pharmaceutical medications on the market. So if toilet totap indeed goes through in Deltona and they inject this treated waste water into our aquafer, well the gentleman from the hospital is going to need those extra beds. So two studies. The reason why I have studied this is because the fluke causes liver cancer and biliary cancer. In Texas, they have the highest rate in the nation in the entire nation of liver and and biliary cancer. Also in Singapore, they have uh biliary and liver cancer is the fifth most common cancer in their nation. The reason I studied these two is because Singapore in 1998 converted all of their waste water to drinking

water. They bathe in it. They brush their teeth in it. They drink it. Their most common cancer and leading cause of death is colurectal cancer. One in four people die of colarctal cancer in Singapore. In Big Springs, Texas in 2013, they were the first in the nation to convert their waste water to their drinking water. Um I couldn't find any statistics prior to 2019 but in 2019 there were 160 cases of colurectal cancer. Four years later in 2023 807 cases that's a 400% increase. The population actually decreased in that town. In 2019 it was about 39,000 residents and in 2023 it was about 26,000. So, I'm not saying that there is a correlation, but it certainly should make you think. Just because scientists say that it's okay and that we can doesn't necessarily mean that we should. And so, just consider the health implications, the ecological implications, and I'm asking for you to consider an ordinance and a charter amendment to save the city of Orange City. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, we're moving on to the consent agenda. We just need a motion. Madame Mayor, I'll make a motion to accept the consent agenda. I'll second. We have a motion. We have a second. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And the consent agenda passes. Moving on to five ordinances. First reading 5A. Ordinance number 698. Read that for me.

Thank you, Madam Mayor. This is item number 5A, ordinance number 698, an ordinance of the city council of the city of Arn City, Florida, amending the code of ordinances. Appendix A, land development code, section 8.6.1, schedule of zoning district permitted and conditional uses. And section 8.7, supplementary regulations to incorporate defi definition definitions and process for recovery residences pursuant to Florida statute. Section 397.487 repealing all ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict herewith, providing for severability, providing for enforcement, and providing for an effective date. And madame mayor, that was the first reading of the ordinance.

Thank you, Joe Ruiz. Good evening, mayor, city council, respective members of the public. Joe Ruiz, development services director.

Um, so today someone uh challenged me to stay within five minutes, and I think I I will be able to do that with with this ordinance. Um so just to to kind of give a background I do not have a presentation um as truly this is really just to come into compliance with state law um that um Governor Ronda Santis signed Senate Bill 954 a bill requiring local governments to adopt an ordinance to establish procedures as was was read into um the record the ordinance uh for certified recovery residences. Um and so this requirement was to be done and adopted by city municipalities by January 1st of this year. Um as it came into effect on July 1st, 2025. Uh so staff um has worked with the uh city attorney to essentially make sure that um we put in language that is in accordance with the recovery residences bill. Um and and really just the the background to that bill is there was there was a lot of resistance from m municipalities over the years. And so the state um and the Senate and the House also proposed several bills um to try to um get these uses essentially um incorporated into municipalities so that municipalities can allow them um as reasonable accommodations under the Fair Housing Act. Um currently today when we look at these recovery residences um when they are in single family homes typically they're limited to six residents. um they operate just like a single family home. And so staff makes that determination that that recovery residence per se or whether it's for aging, whether it's for um assisted living or whatever the case may be, we look at those as homes, right? They operate as a house. Um re really what this bill was aimed at was for multifamily developments and and locations. Uh so what staff has done is uh we've amended our code to make it a

conditional use essentially within um our R2 and R3 uh zoning districts which allow multif family uh residences and then also um provide for definitions um thank you Paul and team for providing those um to to just make sure that we're in compliance with with the state statute and the state definitions. So, so realistically there there aren't any standards that we're applying. Um, and so staff's anticipation is as they come in, we will review these as conditional uses. It'll have to go through the public hearing process. Um, and we will apply the proper standards that that we see fit case by case as as they come in, if they come in. Um truly with these, you know, we we are not a city um like like Daytona per se with 35,000 plus rooftops where people are, you know, knocking at the door to try to occupy these residences for different purposes. Um you know, being that we're a fairly small city, per se, um I we really don't get many group homes or assisted living homes and things like that. So, um we just want to comply with the state and also just make sure that we we have a mechanism to be able to review them on a conditional use basis. So, um, our recommendation today is that the city council, um, approve ordinance 698, um, at first reading and forward to March 10th, 2024, city council meeting for adoption.

So, I was Thank you. So, I was uh reading through just some of the relevant information for recovery residences and what the state uh is is mandating. So, it's if I'm not mistaken, there's a lot of um a lot of uh documents, a lot of certifications, a lot of policy, a lot of things that they have to comply with to be a resident. And I know it's level one, level two, level three, level four. and there's certain compliances that they have to um abide by as far as where they are located, whatever kind of uh facility they are. So, I would encourage anyone who's concerned about that in our city for these recovery residences to go on um this the statute, the Florida statute website and read up on it. There's a lot of information on there. So, it's it's just not so simple for someone to just open their doors and say, "I'm a recovery resident." they have a lot of things that they have to meet, a lot of criteria that has to be met. So, I just wanted to put that out there so everybody was aware of that.

Thank you, council member. And also to to just add to that, um it is forcertified, right? They are recovery residences, but as you mentioned, so that they must be certified in order to qualify for that um reasonable accommodation. Okay. Yeah. And I think it's good to go to the conditional use for that reason. Yep. Right. Okay. Okay. And it'll it'll meet all the thresholds as any other conditional use. You know, if it's uh within the five acres, then it'll stay at planning commission. If it's above five acres, then you all would get a chance to see that and review that as well. So, thank you.

Any other discussion from the council? We just need a motion. Madame Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to approve ordinance number 698 at the first reading and forward [snorts] to the March 10th, 2026 city council meeting for adoption at second and final reading. A second. We have a motion. We have a second. Kaylee. Oh, sorry. Any public comment on this? Seeing none, we'll bring it back for the question. Yes. [snorts] Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. And ordinance number 698 at first reading passes. [snorts] Moving on to 6A public hearing ordinances second and final reading. Uh ordinance number 697. Mr. Waters.

Thank you, Madam Mayor. This is ordinance number 697 and ordinance of the city council. [clears throat] of the city of Arn City, Florida, amending chapter 10.5, Parks and Recreation, Article 2, Use Regulations, Section 10.5-9, Rules and Regulations of the City of Orange City, Code of Ordinances, providing for the repeal of prior inconsistent ordinances and resolutions, incorporation into the code, severability, and providing for an effective date. Madame Mayor, that was the second and final reading of the ordinance.

Thank you, Ashley Gay. Ashley Gay, uh, uh, parks and recreation manager. Uh, good evening, council and mayor. So, um, as discussed previous council meeting, we're just looking to change our ordinance. Um, our first change is in relation to just removing the word fireplace um, out of the language since we no longer have any fire places in any of our park pavilions. The second change is to allow for Mil Lake to open as early as 5:00 a.m. and closing at 900 p.m. And then the last one is um prohibiting the release of lanterns, balloons, the use of glitter, use of confetti cannons, aerosol string, or release of any other substance that cause a pollutant, litter, nuisance, or poses a danger or burden to the environment and wildlife or the to the aesthetics or cleanliness of the park. So those are our three changes and so we respectfully ask council to approve ordinance 697 on second reading.

Any discussion from the council? Okay, we just need a motion. Madame Mayor, I'd like to make a motion uh to adopt ordinance number 697 on second reading. I second. We have a motion. We have a second. Any public comment on this? Seeing none, I'll bring it back for the question. Kayie Johnson. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And ordinance number 697 is approved on second reading.

Thank you very much. Now I can get signage up at all the parks. You'll be seeing the new signs. U since Milton we haven't had the sign any rule signs up at Mil Lake. So yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [snorts] Okay, we're moving on to seven resolutions. We have none. Eight, discussions and action. 8A, consideration of requests from making change for drowning prevention for ININD services, sponsorship and special event use of Veterans Memorial Park for the 2026 Valuchia Water Safety and Drowning Prevention Education Day. Ashley Gay.

Ashley Gay again. And also Is that Santiago special events?

All right. So, um this is would be the second year for this group and just to remind council the current policy is approval of up to $1,000 of inind service and it can also include permitting fees, advertising assistance, staff time and rental fees. So for this particular request, they're requesting that we wave fees for the staff time and the special event application, the signed permit fee, park rental fees, use of Veterans Memorial Park, and advertising on the city's website. So what that would look like would be um park staff for five hours. So that's a total of $200. So the $200 for the park staff for that day also includes the the waiver of the $50 for the special event application, the $25 for the signed permit fee and the rental fee of the two pavilions. Um so this event is proposed to be held at Veterans Memorial Park and again this is the second uh second year. So, you want to share anything about the actual event?

Yeah, sure.

Um, this is making change for drowning prevention. They'll host a drowning prevention awareness event to highlight the critical importance of water safety and to bring awareness to the nonprofit organization making change for drowning prevention. Um, the organization provides scholarships to Valuchia County families, ensuring children have access to essential swim and survival lessons. The purpose of this event is to educate parents and caregivers about active supervision, the importance of designated water watchers, rip current safety, and other key drowning prevention strategies by increasing awareness and expanding access to survival swim instruction. The initiative aims to reduce the number of water immersion and submersion incidents that result in emergency room visits. Um through education, community engagement, scholarship support, this effort seeks to decrease preventable drownings and ultimately save lives within our community.

So the event is um in May. I can't see my day here right now. May [laughter] May 2nd, sorry, May 2nd. Um and that is in rec recognition of National Drowning Prevention Month. Um the sponsorship committee did ask because um there were um limited attendance I think since it was the first year. So they're going to do more marketing and they are hoping to increase those numbers since it is such an important need for the community. So, so staff recommends approval of the making change for drowning prevention with the nonmonetary inind services fees of $425.

Any discussion from council? Council. Uh, so I see that your total expected is 200 hopefully and then last last year when they did it for the first year, I know it takes a while for that to get momentum, but how many do you remember? It was less than 100.

It was less than 100, but still it's still there was a um children there to learn about drowning prevention and the fact that it's um given to um families needing financial assistance and those kind of things. So, it's a free service and those Yeah, I think it's a great opportunity for us to especially in Florida with all the water. Anyway, thank you for that. Any other discussion, council? I I just had a question. So, the I wasn't at the last meeting, so we're still at a $1,000 cap for um sponsorships. Just a few groups that we chose last time don't have a cap. Is that how it is? Okay. I just want to make sure. Okay. All right. So, we just need a motion.

Madame Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to uh approve the inind services fee of $425 for making change for drowning prevention. Second. We have a motion. We have a second. Any public comment on this? Seeing none, we'll bring it back for the question. Kaylee. Yes. [snorts]

Yes. Yes. Yes. And the inind services for $425 is approved. Thank you. [snorts] Moving on to nine reports. Uh, city manager, [snorts]

we have a few items. The first item Miss Stafford, Chair and Stafford did mention and that is she has submitted a letter or an email to the city requesting um that we work with her to find an alternate date. Um Lette has already provided her the existing dates and there she's working with her board now to come up with an alternate and and we'll do what we can to accommodate that. For the city manager report, if you'll take one and pass it down, that's for your records. If anybody has any questions, feel free to contact me. Um, an announcement is the city has fortunately after our efforts in Tallahassee, we have received word that both our police and fire department have made it into both the House and Senate budget.

So that so that's progress and we'll just continue to monitor that. We did receive uh an inquiry for additional information that Chief Long worked on today, submitted to me, and I'll I'll work with it tomorrow and get that response back to the state. The last item I have is leadership West Felia. I don't know if I have seven, two, three. I think I'm missing one. There we go. I take one, pass it down. So with leadership West Faluchia, there's spots left. I did confirm that with Janet today with the uh Chamber of Commerce. So the schedule's not out yet, but we need to commit and in and sign up for the slots. We currently have in the budget two staff members, one council member. the [clears throat] attachment that you have, the items that you have show the Fridays that they could schedule beginning in August running through November. The then behind that is last year's schedule. So, what we're asking for is whoever signs up is committing to two prerequisites. Those prerequisites will happen on a Friday, typically could be a Wednesday for the orientation. The orientation is a prerequisite and then the team building is a prerequisite. After that you head into seminars or a session and those sessions you must attend all. You're eligible to miss one with a valid excuse. This program does run through November 6 with graduation occurring in December. And so the highlighted dates would be if it modeled and came out exactly the way they did it last year. That's the date you're committing to. However, we just don't really know what that schedule is. So, I gave you all the Fridays to make

sure that nobody whoever wants to volunteer to be considered would know that if any of these dates are conflict that they they know beforehand if at all possible. We know life throws curveballs and whatnot. But so, that's what this represents. And last year, there were two individual individuals on this council that were interested. It was council member Darmms, council member Thompson and uh in the end council member Darmms um attended with um

Chief Jerome Miller and uh Devlin the finance director. Uh this year our chief staff members are Deputy Chief Brian Masters and de Bernice Gonzalez our deputy um development services director. So now if you guys would like to consider who if you have questions I can try to answer and the goal is to have somebody so that I can then um work with Kayle's office and we will register whomever is selected um and eligible or available and get them signed up and secure a spot. Um Councilwoman Thompson, did you want to do it again?

I would like to do so. Um, but I'm open to anybody else on the Anybody else on the council interested? But I would like to do it, but since council member Townson had expressed interest last year and friend Darmms had gone, I think it would only be fair to allow her to go. That's what I was thinking too, council. Okay. Are you interested there? Okay. consensus. I Thanks. Tag, you're it. I hear a consensus. Thank you. That's all I have. Are there any questions?

Could you could you maybe touch on some of your report so that because there's people watching from home and they'd probably like to know what's going on in the city.

Well, I'll start with the one I need from you. Um, you asked us to evaluate uh some sections on North Levit regarding a dip. When staff went out there, they found several, not one. [snorts] And without an address, I'm a little concerned about saying yes, go ahead. So, they asked staff to mark those. And if you could go by and survey and make sure out of the spots between pineapple and dailies, that one of those that are marked are the one or address the concern that you receive from a constituent. I can then go ahead and move forward. So from Lands Down to Graves, it's like this.

Well, you know, the one section by the school we've already reported can't be fixed until after. So between Pineapple and Lands Down, I think is where there there's some major That's where you reported. We went out there and they found I did not We didn't find one. We found multiple. Yeah. So I just want to make sure before we And I think it's just from all the trucks from the school and things like that. you know,

some areas we identified um further north that are going to be addressed had to do with mitigating factors from um utility construction. So, you could clearly see where there's mark lines marked with arrow uh blue arrows indicating that they had jackhamard under there for a water line. two years later, that area has now compromised from that earth underneath that road. The areas that we noted um in the area where you you had that received the complaint, there were no distinguishing reasons to show. They're just older infrastructure, but we don't know of any um storm water utility lines associated with it, but arguably it can can be repaired and relatively um reasonable. um the intersection where the uh the the area where the water line was done is not as reasonable. It'll be a little bit more costly, but it's definitely um

so the ones that are close to lands down when you're coming from graves on Levit, I think they're the major one. There's I think there's at least two there that are really deep. Um okay, if that helps. I think I it's marked if you get a chance in the next few days to drive by. If you have concern, call. I can meet you there or I can send staff. I met the contractor out there and so I'm familiar based on that. So if I if I'm available, happy to meet you there. Um so from there, thank you because I was going to try to nab you before you got out. Um let's start at the top. [clears throat]

So, the Lands Down sidewalk project, uh, all of the sidewalk and curbs and aprons are in. The last leg is some storm water infrastructure, and I believe that's set to start, uh, re they will be working on that that infrastructure next week. No, two weeks. Two to three weeks.

No, that's okay. I appreciate that. So, it was scheduled for next week, but there's a gas line that apparently has um revealed itself and that's going to have to be mitigated. With regard to the EV fleet consideration, we did finally receive a response from Duke. That has been worked into the white paper and we are currently reviewing that to bring back. My gut is telling me that that's going to be something we will put in for next year's budget consideration to be funded through the budget. Um, but I'll I'll get the white paper out on that. Um, waste pro implementation still ongoing. We do have some hiccups, nothing major. Uh, staff is working with uh the both the monitor company, Redmond and Waste Pro. I did have to go ahead and set up a meeting for I believe it's next week to meet with uh WastePro, Redmond, and our staff to go over a few items um with regard to the citizens request to span um expand the historic district which is uh Mr. Victor who's here. Um staff is coordinating a meeting with Mr. Johnson Johnston. He is uh somebody we've previously worked with as a consultant regarding our historic district and so we'll be working on that. Um let's see. We do not have word yet on the POS grant application. Um that was filed back in October. It's still pending. With regard to the Orange City Elementary Schoolhouse, uh various staff and vice mayor attended the February 11th meeting. I'm also pending some information from you, Miss Mayor, uh in order to set up some meetings. You want the next Belutia County elected round elected officials roundtable meeting that I am set to attend appears to be March 9th

and I did [snorts] remove a considerable amount off of this report and the closing statement here is is closed. um items are available upon request. Um and that's it. That's all I have. Thank you. You're welcome. Okay, moving on to city clerk. Um I just have a couple things to report on. Um so Aaron has been promoted to deputy clerk. So congratulations to Aaronations. [applause] [laughter]

Um and just an election update. Um, so for district three, I have Don Thompson and Brett Marquez's candidates. For district four, I have Cassandra Jones. I have no candidates for district five as of yet. Um, but you one might be coming. Um, and then I have at large um, so far day and night. So that is just my small little update tonight. Thank you. Thank you. No problem. City attorney Uh, madame mayor, council, we have a lot going on behind the scenes, but nothing to discuss with the group.

Thank you. Moving on to new business number 10. Any new business? I have something. Um, we have a lot of important issues before us this year. So, um, because of that, I'd like to ask to to postpone amending the council rules and procedures. Um, this will allow us more time to focus on city business and also I feel the need that we we need more time for the staff and the public um to review the rules and I think it's something that we should take our time with. So, I wanted to ask if we could postpone the March 24th, I believe it is, to a later date um that the CA the council couldn't determine um

talking about the workshop. That's what I'm talking about, the workshop. Yeah, just so we can um move forward with regular city business and come back to that at another time. Do um do we need a motion for that or a head nod? those

it was adopted by a motion. So, it would probably be appropriate to uh table it by motion and um I would recommend just tableabling it and that way you could bring it back whenever uh whenever you want. You don't have a date certain. I'd like to make a motion to table the workshop to a later date um with uh council when council could decide the date. How's that? A second. Got a motion. We got a second. Anything from the public on that? [snorts] Give it back to you, Kaylee. [snorts]

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. You say it passed. Oh, motion passed. [laughter] There you go. Thank you. Okay, moving on to 11 approval minutes. We already did that. Um 12 council and mayor's comments and reports. Um Councilman Knight, you have anything? Council Stafford?

Yes, I do. I would like to congratulate our chief of police and whether or not the public, please forgive me, I cut myself short. I should have got up and spoke in your behalf at the uh pending ceremony. But this is the first time in 144 years that we have had a black chief of police and I want to congratulate you and thank you. Thank you so much for coming out. Ern city continued to make history and Ern City, the resident of N City continues to show diversity no matter what is going on. And to our citizens, I want to say thank you. And also I see the manager, Councilwoman Richardson, you have anything? No. Council Thompson.

No. some terms. Vice Mayor, I'm good.

Okay. Um, first of all, congratulations, Aaron, on the promotion. Um, chief, I'm so happy that you're chief now. I I can't say enough. I was kind of uh short worded earlier, but I just wanted to say that um this is the this is a really good thing for Orange City. um with all the skills and experience that you have that you're bringing to the table and uh what your family said and your friends and your colleagues that you're you know you're a man of your word. I see that and um I'm real excited for you to lead the department. Um you know we got a great department and I think you're just going to make it even even better. So um welcome to the position and congratulations. Thank you. And with that being said, we just need a motion to adjurnn.

Make a motion to adjurnn. Sure. Second. Second. Got a motion. We got a second.