City Commission - workshop

Can we get the recording started? Good evening, everyone. Welcome to the RMV Registration Information Workshop.

My name is Gregory Gay. I will be conducting the workshop with you for this evening. Me llamo Gregory Gay. Voy a estar dando el taller esta noche.

We also have with us the mayor and commissioner for the city of Opa-locka.

También tenemos al mayor y comisionador de la ciudad de Opa-locka.

Okay.

We have Mayor Taylor.

Tenemos al mayor Taylor.

We have Commissioner Bass.

Commissioner Bass.

We have Commissioner Irving.

Commissioner Irving.

We have Commissioner Santiago.

Commissioner Santiago.

And we have Vice Mayor Taylor. I mean, Vice Mayor Kelly. Excuse me.

Vice Mayor Kelly.

Excuse me. Pelopian slip.

Perdón. Pelopismo.

First and foremost, we'd like to thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to come and be a part of this workshop. As you know, we have spent numerous hours, days, weeks, months, and almost a couple of years putting this legislation together and having it pass.

Antes que nada, quiero saludarlos y extendirles el bienvenido de estar aquí esta noche con nosotros. Hemos estado en esto mucho tiempo,

So, I'd like to 1st, and foremost think. The city manager and the city staff also, especially our building and licensing department and our code enforcement department for working with us and getting this particular legislation in place.

Quisiera también dar muchas gracias a todos los que hicieron esto posible, todos los departamentos que fueron parte de esto y que nos ayudaron a ponerlo todo junto para esta noche, para ustedes.

Okay. First things first. We are basically going to go to an invocation.

Primero vamos a hacer una invocación.

I'd like to ask Mr. Gerald Lee to come forth and give the invocation.

Por favor, el señor Gerald Lee, adelante para darla.

Mr. Lee is the zoning official for the city of Opelika.

Es el oficial de zonas para la ciudad de Opelika.

Father in Jesus' name, Lord, we thank you for your goodness and your mercy, God. And we ask you, Lord, as we open this meeting and this workshop, that you give us peace in the midst, that you give us a spirit of cooperation, that we work well with one another and execute the legislation that has been passed. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.

And please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right, now we get to the good stuff. IT, if you could start with the presentation.

Empecemos con la presentación. Los técnicos.

And while you're setting that up, I'd like to ask the mayor or any of the commissioners if they would like to have some remarks.

Mientras tanto, voy a pedirle al mayor y los comisionadores que si tienen algunas cosas que decir, cualquier cosa, que lo digan ahora, por favor.

Good afternoon for the brevity of time. My colleagues, would you all like to? Okay. So we want to thank Community Development for having this workshop on this evening. And I'm asking you residents to ask all the questions that you need. This is the time to get all the information. that you need and ask all your questions and express your concerns. These are the people that can assist you. We work together on this, as Mr. Gay said, for many, many years, months, and we work with you all. But this, we just want to, before we execute it, make sure that all of your questions are answered and that you understand what we're doing here in the city of Opelika. So thank you all for being here. And I'll turn it back over to Mr. Gay.

Gracias a todos por estar aquí. Quisiera atenderle, por favor, que todos puedan preguntar sus preguntas, expresar sus temores. Y por favor, antes de irse aquí, que todo sea claro y que estas personas están aquí para asistirles a todos antes de que se vayan, para que tengan todo claro y no le queden dudas en la mente.

Okay, at this time, I'd like to ask the Vice Mayor and the Commissioners if they would like to have some remarks.

Vice Mayor, Commissioner.

He spoke on my behalf, but I am Vice Mayor Kelly.

I know I'm not going to get out of that any time soon.

Okay, with that being said, we're ready to move forward with the presentation. You should have received a copy of the presentation when you first walked in. It's also going to be shown on the screen.

Todo el mundo recibió una copia cuando entraron, pero también va a estar en la escena, en el televisor.

Okay, this is a presentation is designed to educate and highlight the recreational vehicle owners and property owners on the process for registering their RV for storage on their residential properties.

Okay, this particular ordinance was...

Adopted in June of this year, and it goes into effect on October 1st of 2026.

Repeat, please, the second date, the second month that you said.

October 2026. Thank you. Okay, the legislation has been amended and passed, which allows RVs to be stored on residential properties.

These properties are identified as residential zone properties R1 and R2.

So a single family residential and two family duplex residential.

The legislation allows for the following types of RVs to be stored on residential properties. La legislación permite los siguientes tipos de vehículos recreativos en propiedades residenciales.

It allows for travel trailers, camping trailers, truck campers, motorhomes, van conversion, and fifth-wheel trailers.

Permite remolque de viaje, remolque camping sin motor. auto caravana de camioneta, auto caravana, urbaneta convertida, remolque, quinta rueda.

The initial certification fee is $100 with all the required documentation.

La tarifa inicial para la certificación es $100 con toda la documentación requerida.

Parking or storage of recreational vehicles on residential properties, contrary to Section 22-116, includes unlawful occupancy, unlawful utility connection, and failure to obtain or maintain certification or other noncompliance within this section.

Estacionamiento o almacenamiento de un vehículo recreativo en propiedad residencial en contra de la sección 22116, incluyendo ocupación ilegal, conexión ilegal de servicios, no obtener o mantener un certificado u otro incumplimiento de esa sección.

The fine for the first offense is $250 and $500 for each repeated offense.

Each resident is allowed only one recreational vehicle to be parked or stored on their residential property.

in compliance with sections and only after issuance of the recreational vehicle parking certificate.

A cada residencia se le permite estacionar o guardar solo uno vehículo o solo un vehículo recreativo en propiedades con zonificación residencial, cumpliendo con esa sección y solo después de obtener un certificado de estacionamiento de vehículo recreativo.

Nothing in this legislation authorizes recreational vehicles to be parked or stored on townhouse, multifamily or mixed use or vacant properties.

Nada en esta legislación autoriza que los vehículos recreativos se estacionen o guarden en casas adosadas, casas multifamiliares o de uso mixto o de propiedades desocupadas.

Recreational vehicles shall be parked or stored in a side yard or an improved driveway or unlawfully or lawfully paved parking surface that shall not be stored in the front yard.

All side outs, expansion panels, awnings, steps, and similar

A punitenses shall be retracted or folded in while the vehicle is parked or stored.

Extensions deslizables, paneles extensibles, todos escalones y accesorios similares deben estar retraídos o plegados mientras el vehículo esté estacionado o guardado.

What you see before you is an example of where your RV can be stored on the property. And it could be on either side of the property, on one side or the other.

The image shows where the vehicle can be parked, and it can be on one side or the other.

The recreational vehicle shall remain mounted on wheels capable of lawful removal and in generally operative and movable condition.

El vehículo recreativo deberá permanecer montado sobre ruedas, capaz de ser retirado legalmente y en condiciones generalmente operables y movibles.

If the recreational vehicle is not titled to the property owner, it shall be titled to a lawful tenant or lawful occupant of the dwelling who is in possession under the current written lease or other written rights to possess acceptable to the city.

Si el vehículo recreativo no está titulado a nombre del propietario de la propiedad, deberá estar titulado a nombre de un inquilino legal o un ocupante legal de la vivienda que esté en posesión bajo un contrato de arrendamiento escrito vigente u otro derecho de posesión por escrito aceptable para la ciudad.

The recreational vehicle shall maintain current state registration and plates displayed as required by applicable law.

El vehículo recreativo deberá mantener la inscripción estatal vigente y la exhibición de la placa según lo exija la ley aplicable.

The property owner and any certificate holder maintain the recreational vehicle and the parking area in a neat and sanitary condition.

El propietario del mueble y cualquier titular del certificado deberá mantener en vehículo recreativo y el área de estacionamiento en condiciones limpias y ordenadas.

What you see displayed before you is an example of the decal that you will receive when the recreational vehicle is registered with the city and where the decal shall be displayed on the vehicle.

Lo que ve alante de ustedes es la calcomanía que va a recibir y dónde debe estar puesto en su vehículo.

An RV registration application shall be filled out with the building and licensing department by the property owner and or by a lawful tenant with the written consent of the property owner.

Una solicitud de registro de casa rodante debe ser presentada en el departamento de construcción y licencias por el propietario de la propiedad y o por un inquilino legal con el consentimiento por escrito del propietario.

Upon receipt of the materials completing to complete the application, the Building and Licensing Department shall route the application to Community Development Department for zoning compliance review.

Al recibir una solicitud materialmente completa, el Departamento de Construcción y Licencias enviará la solicitud al Departamento de Desarrollo Comunitario para la revisión de cumplimiento de zonificación.

Proof of ownership of the property or proof of lawful tenancy together with a written owner's consent.

Prueba de la propiedad o prueba del arrendamiento legal junto con el consentimiento escrito del propietario.

You must also show proof that the current recreational vehicle is currently titled and registered as required by applicable law together with current plate information.

También debe ser mostrada prueba de que el vehículo recreativo está actualmente registrado y tiene título según lo exige la ley aplicable, junto con la información actual de la placa.

Proof of the proposed parking location and driveway access, such as site sketch, photograph, or a survey excerpt.

Prueba de la ubicación de estacionamiento propuesta y del acceso a la entrada de autos, es decir, un boceto de sitio, fotografía, o extracto de un levantamiento.

such additional nonvehicular registration information as the city may reasonably require to administer this section.

Cualquier información adicional que no sea del registro de vehículo de la ciudad pueda requerir razonablemente para administrar esta sección.

The certification is specific to the approved property and the approved recreational vehicle is non-transferable and expires upon a change in ownership of the property, a change in tenancy of the certified holder or transfer or disposition of the permitted vehicle.

El certificado es específica para la propiedad aprobada y el vehículo recreativo aprobado no es transferible y expirar si hay un cambio de propietario de la propiedad, un cambio de inquilino del titular de certificado o la transferencia o disposición del vehículo permitido.

The building and licensing department may suspend or revoke a certification for material misrepresentation in the application or for failure to comply with this section after written zoning noncompliance finding from community development department or referral from the code enforcement department and after notice and a opportunity to cure when the cure is reasonably available.

El Departamento de Construcción y Licencias puede suspender o revocar un certificado por representación material falsa en la solicitud o por incumplimiento de esa sección, después de recibir un informe por escrito de incumplimiento de zonificación del Departamento de Desarrollo Comunitario o una referencia del Departamento de Cumplimiento del Código y después de notificar y dar la oportunidad de corregir cuando sea razonablemente posible hacerlo.

Okay, so those are some of the requirements as far as the certification application and issuance. Are there any questions?

Esos son algunos de los requeridos sobre las aplicaciones y certificaciones. Hay algunas preguntas.

Thank you so much. I have two questions. I just need a little, I know this is already passed, but a little clarification. I wanted to know if we will be having training for our code department on what this is all about, so they would know precisely what to look for.

Tengo dos preguntas para clarificación. Quería saber si iba a haber algún tipo de enseñanza para el departamento este, de lo que estamos hablando.

We've been working closely with code enforcement and giving them an opportunity to input as it relates to the legislation. So they will be available and ready to move forward with the necessary steps in order to make sure that the RVs are in compliance. And if they're not in compliance, what is necessary to cure them.

Van a estar trabajando muy acerca de esto para que la legislación de los vehículos recreativos todos estén cumplidos, cumpliendo con lo que estamos hablando hoy.

And I want to know that I heard what you're saying, but is there a way that we can just go ahead and create a cheat sheet per se where instead of having all of, you know, all of this, the ordinance bullet points that they could have, because I don't want it to come to the point where we're unsure on what is acceptable and what's not because we're human and we can make a mistake and we don't want to make mistakes with this because we've come too far.

Quería saber si había manera de crear algo más compacto, algo más que se entienda por la mayoría de las personas. Sé que tenemos esto, pero todos somos humanos y no quiero que alguien esté inseguro de lo que estemos hablando.

Thank you for that question. We will get with code enforcement and pull out those particular bullet points from the ordinance itself to make sure that they will know exactly what they will need to evaluate the situation as it is.

Vamos a ponernos con la ordenancia para poner los puntos claves, para que ellos puedan evaluar y todos entendamos.

My last question is, the verbiage in here says improved driveway. What does that mean? Aquí dice...

Entrada de auto mejorado. ¿Qué quiere decir eso?

Thank you for that question. The RV, because it is a vehicle, it needs to be on a paved surface. So it can either be a concrete slab, an asphalted area, or an area with pavers in order to make sure that none of the things relating to the RV may drip into the ground and interfere with our groundwater.

Gracias por la pregunta. Porque es un auto, tiene que estar estacionado en un camino pavimentado para prevenir que nada de que se caiga del vehículo, algunos líquidos, no entren a la tierra.

If we can also have that spelled out for our residents, because I didn't know what that meant. So they would know exactly what this is, you know, what we're requiring from them. Thank you.

Okay, thank you. Next.

Hypothetically speaking, we said that they can park on either side of their house. I don't want to park my RV on the side of my house. I want to park it in the backyard along the... The question is, as long as it's on the approved slab, could I do that?

Okay. Hablando de una manera... De una manera relajada. No, yo no necesariamente quiero poner mi vehículo al lado de la casa, en cualquier lado. Si no, yo quisiera ponerlo atrás en el patio. ¿Se puede hacer si hay tierra pavimentada?

Thank you for that question.

Gracias por la pregunta.

The main thing is that the RV is either on the side or the rear. We would prefer the side so that we can see basically where the emblem is located so that we'll know that the RV is registered. By parking in the rear, it puts us in an imposition where code enforcement will not be able to determine whether that particular RV is registered, even though we are looking at having not just a registration on the RV, but also a registration on the property itself.

Gracias por su pregunta. Preferible que sea a los lados en vez de atrás porque así pueden mejor ver el emblema de los oficiantes de fuerza de código. Podrán ver si está registrado o no el vehículo mejor. So you still didn't answer my question.

It would be preferred to be in the side so that it could be visible from the public right away for code enforcement. But as long as you have the certification on your home, you can park it in the rear as long as it's done properly.

Preferido, sería preferido tenerlo a uno de los dos lados, pero si tiene certificado sobre su vehículo, sí se puede estacionar atrás también.

This might be a management question, not sure. But did we put anything in place if a homeowner decides that they're going to keep their RV in their yard and they're not going to get the... the registration. What are we doing? I heard about the fines or whatever. We have houses here every day that has running fines and they don't care. So what are we doing? What are we going to do with residents that decide not to participate in RV registration?

Esto tal vez sería una pregunta para Estión, pero ¿qué haramos entonces con los residentes que no siguen las reglas? Ya tenemos realmente ahora residentes que no están siguiendo las reglas y que reciben penalidades, pero todavía parece que no les importa. ¿Qué haramos entonces para enforzar eso?

The city's best utilization for this, and this is not something where we want to charge people for their violations. We want them to come into compliance. So that is really the main thing that we're trying to secure, compliance with the rules and regulations. For those persons who choose not to follow the rules and regulations, liens and citations are our only method of basically getting them to come into compliance.

Gracias por la pregunta. Nuestra mejor manera de usar esto. That's it.

Thank you, Mr. Gregory Gay. Commissioner Louis B. Santiago, and I believe that I'm the sponsor of this amendment, these changes that the ordinance had before. And I want to make it loud and clear here in front of my colleagues and in front of these residents, they keep the time today to come here and to really know, okay, what is going on with all this. And we have a couple of points. Yeah, she's going to translate it to me in English because I'm going to explain it there in Spanish. Welcome to all of you. Yo he mirado lo que se trajo ahora en el segundo... Con permiso.

Excuse me, I need a pen.

I ran out.

Gracias. Muchas gracias.

¿Seguimos? Sí. Con todo el respeto que ustedes se merecen, creo que... With all due respect, I believe that they deserve.

That they deserve respect.

Hay algo que yo estoy mirando que no fue lo que se habló hace meses atrás y desde el principio que hemos estado tratando de cambiar esta legislación.

There is something that hasn't been said that was said when we began speaking of this a while ago.

Yeah. Mr. Gay, in your department, you bring now and you bring into what are we calling this again? That type of your side plans.

I don't know if everybody have it with you.

I don't know if everybody have it with you. My colleague Commissioner Irving brought a good point a good point about this. There are people that do have space behind their house. Y habíamos quedado que sí, en aquel entonces, que se le iba a permitir.

And we had said that yes, that it was going to be permissible.

Y hoy en día traemos algo que es lo contrario, y en el lenguaje...

And today we are bringing something that is on the contrary to that in the verbiage.

In the verbiage that this legislation brings, it does speak of what we spoke about before. Okay. Now, Mr. Gates, I know and I remember that we've been talking about this a long time ago for a couple of times in my office and even in the first workshop that we have. And we have case people that they cannot parking in the side of the RV because they have all the things they are parking and they have in the space in back of the house.

And we've talked about people not being able to park behind their homes.

I believe that we know that we're going to create the sticker that you showed a few minutes ago. And if somebody has that recreation truck parking in the back of the house,

Y con el sticker que ustedes enseñaron hace poquito ahora aquí en el meeting. Entonces, si ellos sí tienen eso y están todavía estacionados atrás de sus casas.

Se le iba a permitir. They're going to permit it to doing it. always, if they follow the rules and regulations that we already write in here, that that truck has to be on top of concrete or other material.

And so all of you know, we did not bring this forth for you to rent this.

This is not for rent. This is only for parking at your home. Because the first time the legislation spoke of putting our vehicles elsewhere and paying rent for them, and I believe that is an injustice. Y ahora, pues estamos acá con esto, gracias a Dios, pero también queremos que se cumpla todo lo que se acordó con todos nosotros.

So now we are here with this, revisiting this again. Thank goodness. But I do want everybody to please comply with the rules set forth in the legislation.

And for ending this conversation, Mr. Gates, I love to, you know, to make reviews about that. And yes, I always tell you, you know, everybody had to follow rules and regulations that the city of Opa-locka put in place. That's the motivation that we had to make our city more organized and beautiful. But also, Mr. Gates, we already talking about that before and I want to take note of that because I know that we have some people that they have that RV parking already in the back of the house, and they don't use it for renting. They have access to go out, but they're using the driveway for anything else, for like parking the boat, because they cannot park the boat in the front, you know that.

Okay. Quería hablar sobre eso, que ya esto, hablamos de esto antes, de las personas que estacionan atrás y no tienen ningún otro espacio donde poner sus botes o tal vez estacionan los botes o otros vehículos adelante o en los lados.

They have that truck walking in the back, that sticker.

Okay, that sticker. That sticker had to be in front of the house.

Commissioner, I was just going to add on to that. We would prefer that the vehicles be on the side so that code enforcement can see it very readily. But we will, upon the registration, they will have an opportunity to put the decal on the vehicle as well as on the property itself. So that way they'll know that that particular property has a registered RV on the site.

A su punto, sí, como dije antes, la etiqueta se podrá ver mejor si el vehículo está en los lados por los oficiantes que empuerzan el código. Pero cuando registren sus vehículos, van a poder tener la oportunidad de o poner la etiqueta, una etiqueta en el vehículo o también en la parte de delante de la casa.

I really don't have a question. I want to just make clear in the Legislation Ordinance on the number 3, it talks about side yard, improved driveway, or other lawfully paved parking surface. That is the caption that would capture the fact of being in the back, even though you prefer it on the side. It's actually captured in the legislation. Then you just added the fact you will have a decal opportunity in the front so code would notice it. I want to hear from the community. I want to hear from those impacted.

I want to hear from the community.

My question was, it's a recreational vehicle, but so if you have a yacht and an RV, it's a different situation?

Entonces, mi pregunta es, si son vehículos de recreación, pero también son los yates y otros vehículos. Estamos hablando de todos.

We've actually had conversations regarding that because we do understand that there are some cases where someone may have a recreational vehicle and they may have a watercraft and they take out both of them when they go on their vacations. So it's really going to be measured on a case by case basis. There is already legislation that speaks to the storage of watercrafts. And this is just additional information as to address the art recreational vehicles. Depending on the size of your property, it's really going to determine whether you can store both of those particular vehicles on your site.

Okay. Hemos tenido conversaciones sobre eso. Sabemos que también los vehículos del agua son vehículos recreacionales. Lo que estamos hablando hoy, primero que vamos a verlo caso por caso, pero lo que estamos hablando hoy es algo separado sobre este tipo de vehículos que hemos hablado hoy. También depende en el tamaño de su propiedad.

Could you please state your name and address? My name is Emmanuel Fortes, 1105 Salton. Thank you.

Emmanuel Fortes.

Okay, we're about to wrap this up. Just want to go over the prohibited parts, and the commissioner has already kind of alluded to it.

If you have any other questions, this is your time to speak while we're here. This is the time. Is everybody happy with this then? Is it going to be $100 or will it go up? Uno a la vez, por favor.

Somebody Somebody said before that what you're doing is illegal.

I'm not sure if this was looked at before, but somebody said it was against the law.

Have you been able to check that? Porque prácticamente lo que decía que nos están cobrando renta.

Because you are particularly charging us rent for our own vehicles and on our own properties.

Can you give us your name and address?

Luis Alvarez. Luis Alvarez.

Luis Alvarez. Okay. As it relates to the question that you just raised, we looked up the terminologies as it relates to whether you can use the term registration or whether you can use other terminology. We are actually issuing what is called a certificate for you to be able to park your RV on your property. And it is allowed.

Ok, en relación a su pregunta, revisamos la tecnología que se puede usar sobre esto. Esto no es una registración, pero sí es un certificado y sí se puede hacer.

Mi nombre es Margarita Sinche. Yo quería saber si los 100 dólares que quieren cobrar va a ser todos los años o solamente va a ser una vez, no sé. Quiero que me...

I would like to know if $100 that will be charged would be yearly or how that would work.

As it relates to the fees, the fees are $100 annually for the amount of time that you either have the RV in your ownership or the RV, someone who is a tenant on your property owns the RV and is maintaining that RV on your property. So that is a $100 fee on an annual basis.

Serían $100 anuales mientras el vehículo esté en su propiedad. Y si usted se muda y otra persona va a su propiedad y el vehículo está ahí, igual, $100 anuales.

Okay. The last few points. Any other questions?

Cualquier otra pregunta.

So would the vehicles be able to, with their proper certifications, be able to be on the sidewalk?

Excuse me. Ah, yes. In the back of the house.

With the certification, you will be able to park the vehicle in the rear of your property as well as on the side of your properties. With the one caveat, you cannot enter the rear of the property from the city alleyways. You have to be able to enter from the front of your property through the side and park the RV in the rear, if that's what you choose to do.

Sí, se va, sí se puede estacionar atrás, solo si entra su propiedad por adelante y no por una callecita de atrás. Se tiene que entrar por adelante y se puede estacionar adelante, atrás o a los lados, como he dicho.

Okay. If there's no more questions, we're going to go over the prohibited uses and utility connections.

Okay.

A recreational vehicle parked or stored on a residential property shall not be used for living, sleeping, cooking, business operation, rental, advertisement for occupancy, or as a storage unit except for ordinary and incidental storage of items customarily kept with the vehicle.

Un vehículo recreativo estacionado o guardado en una propiedad con zonificación residencial no debe usarse para vivir, dormir, cocinar, operaciones comerciales, alquiler, publicidad de ocupación o como unidad de almacenamiento, excepto para el almacenamiento ordinario en incidental de artículos que normalmente se guardan dentro del vehículo.

Recreational vehicle parked or stored on residential zone property should not be connected to water, sewer, or gas lines.

Un vehículo recreativo estacionado o guardado en una propiedad con zonificación residencial no debe estar conectado al suministro de agua, alcantarillado o gas. Se permite...

Temporary electric connection by extension cord is permitted solely for battery charging or brief maintenance related activities and shall not exceed 24 hours consecutive in any seven day period.

Se permite una conexión eléctrica temporal mediante un cable de extensión únicamente para cargar la batería o realizar actividades breves de mantenimiento y no debe superar las 24 horas consecutivas en un periodo de 7 días.

The city reserves the right to suspend water and sewer services after proper notice.

And again, the parking of recreational vehicles is prohibited on townhouses or multifamily development property. Otra vez, el estacionamiento de vehículos recreativos no se permite en hogares multifamiliares.

Wastewater or sewage shall not be discharged from the recreational vehicle onto the property or into any sewer or stormwater system.

No se debe descargar aguas residuales o negras de un vehículo recreativo en la propiedad ni en ningún sistema de alcantarillado o de aguas pluviales.

Nothing in this section authorizes a recreational vehicle to serve as an accessory dwelling unit or short-term rental, i.e., Airbnb,

Nada en esta sección autorizada a un vehículo recreativo a funcionar como una unidad de vivienda secundaria o como alquiler a corto plazo, por ejemplo, Airbnb.

This concludes the presentation. If there are any other questions that you would like to ask, we're ready to receive them at this time.

Si tienen algunas otras preguntas que quieran preguntar, estamos listos a recibirlas a este tiempo.

Question in the rear.

I have a doubt.

Is it only on pavement that these can be parked or can it be parked on gravel as well?

The RVs have to be parked on an improved surface. In most cases, you're looking at either on concrete, asphalt, or some type of paver. A gravel, we have not looked at because gravels have a tendency to be a porous material.

Tienen que estar estacionados en un lugar mejorado. tiene que ser pavimento, thank you, pavimento, y no sabemos todavía si se puede ser en ese tipo de cosas porque no hemos visto eso, no hemos preguntado eso todavía.

And just let me add a gravel, a gravel surface can still allow any type of fluids that are associated with the RV, whether it be oils or petroleum, it can still allow that to be, to come off of that particular vehicle and be deposited into our ground and eventually into the water system.

Just to add to his question, I know other people, this is not my question. Does the RV have to fully be in concrete or just the wheels? Tiene que estar todo en el concreto o solo las ruedas.

Generally, we would like to see the entire RV on whatever particular surface that you choose to. And because you have those particular liquids that come off of the vehicle, if it was just the wheels itself and wheels really don't contaminate the ground, it's the oils and everything that come off of the vehicle. So it needs to be a fully improved surface, concrete or asphalt.

Tiene que estar todo el vehículo, porque si no, los líquidos, como hablamos antes, y los aceites pueden entrar a la tierra y al agua.

Yeah, Mr. Gay, what are we calling that stone? We're calling gravity? Again? Okay. All right. Let me say this, okay? Okay. And any of them, any liquor for any trucks or cars or buses, whatever we're parking, that thing is penetrating to the ground, on the ground, no matter what. It's a very strong chemical. Okay, with that, what I tried to explain in something that we had to see in the future, Mr. Gay, they have a lot of type of RV. When engine, the motor that you're driving it, and the other one that they pull it. You see the difference? If they parking one in gravel, And the storm, okay, it is not motor driver, okay? That one don't throw anything to the ground. You know, I prefer, you know, all that type of RV. Yes, okay, because it's saving a lot of things for Earth.

Primero que cualquier líquido que se bote de camiones, carros, hay muchos tipos de vehículos, van a penetrar la tierra. Can you repeat the last part of that, please?

I'm going to say it in Spanish for you to understand. The vehicle that doesn't have a motor, I would prefer it. That doesn't throw any liquid, no gasoline, nothing. And it does the planet good. You're going to say it in English? You want me to say it in English? You did. Oh, okay.

Thank you, Commissioner. For the motorized vehicles, it would need to be on a concrete or asphalt surface. For the vehicles that are trailers, That is something that will have to be analyzed on a case-by-case basis. We would prefer that they also be on a concrete surface or an asphalt surface because this is a vehicle that's being parked for an extended period of time.

Esto va a tener que ser evaluado caso por caso. Los vehículos que no tienen motores, vamos a ver caso por caso. Pero los otros iban a tener que ser en concreto asfalto.

Carlos Novo, 1840, Paloca Boulevard. About the gravel, like he referred about that, I did so many inspections on the keys and the driveway that they have with the gravel. And when we use as far, we use oil. The as far is oil. You know, normally I think they should be to go. The gravel, they should be to be.

normalmente se lo puede repetir por favor aclarar.

Nosotros hacemos reparaciones en los calles y es grava lo que se usa. Yeah, so the driveway has gravel, so it shouldn't make a difference either way before constructing a property.

No debe ser diferencia de todas maneras antes de construir una propiedad que sea grava o asfalto.

In an as-build, you have the location where the sewer and the plumbing... Clean water and dirty water are going through, you know, so you should have already an idea where it's going through.

Se debe ya tener idea de dónde van los líquidos de la plomería antes.

Cuando la propiedad está construida sabemos dónde está el alcantarillado y el agua limpia. Now, for storm drains and sewer drains and all that, it's mostly in the right of way. So that is also, the city also have that stipulated, whether they use either GIS or whatever other form in their plans.

In other words, property...

This is already a property that already we're paying for. We're paying high taxes.

Personally, myself, I'm paying high taxes.

And on top of paying a fee, an annual fee, I understand that you want it to be accessible, which there's different type of material that it can be resolved, which...

Al lado de pagar una tarifa anual, también entiendo que quieren que sea accesible, pero hay diferentes materias que podemos lograr.

Rubble is one of them. It's inside the property. It's not being transited daily like... public driveway or right-of-way.

Grava es una de ellas. No se rodean arriba de ellos todos los días como algo público.

Exactly. So it's because it's more economical. A lot of people here work like you and I. So this will be something additional on top of the annual fee and the maintenance that these RVs require.

Sería algo adicional arriba de ya el mantenimiento, el costo de mantenimiento que requieren estos vehículos recreacionales.

So, here as OpaLocal citizens, we also want to work with the city and comply. Yes, that's what we're here for. But you also have to have the consideration of what... Yes, complying with the city of Paloca, but also not hurting the residents of Paloca.

Can I get your name and address? Lori, 1840 Paloca Boulevard. Thank you.

That is something that we'll need to further evaluate as it relates to whether gravel can be an option.

Eso es algo que vamos a tener que evaluar entonces, de que si la grava sería una opción.

Good evening, Shemekka Lawson, City Manager. So I just want to add to that. Gravel can be considered an improved driveway when it is a permanent engineered structure, not loose stone. So if it's a loose stone, that cannot be considered. If it's gravel that's permanent, then yes.

Buenas noches. Administradora municipal. Si es permanente la grava, entonces sí se puede permitir. Algo que sea flojo, no.

So based on that particular evaluation, we're looking at it being, it could be a gravel surface, but it would have to be a compacted gravel surface, not a loose gravel surface.

Okay. Are there any more questions? Okay.

Dennis Camacho, 600 Curtis Drive. Going back to the property taxes, 13 years ago I paid a little over $1,000. Now it's over $4,000. So is it going to stay $100 for five years or is it going to be $500?

Hablando sobre los impuestos que han subido tanto, entonces va a ser más de $500 o solo $500? Se va a quedar... As it is written in the ordinance right now, it is $100 on an annual basis.

In order for the ordinance to change, you will have to come back before the commission for consideration.

Para cambiar esa ordenancia, hay que aparecer antes del comisionador.

Do we have any other questions?

Cualquier otra pregunta.

If not, that will conclude this education session for the RV certification registration process.

Si no, ya concluimos el taller de certificación de vehículos recreacionales.

We'd like to thank you for coming out.

Gracias a todos por venir esta noche.