Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

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It is 5:30. Welcome to the city many planning commission meeting for Thursday, March 5th, 2026. Please rise for the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. To the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Please take. Commissioner Sinsky here. Commissioner Zamansky here. Commissioner Winer here. Commissioner McBride here. Commissioner Yoder here. And Chair Whitliff

here. Thank you. Approval of tonight's agenda. At this time, the planning commission can take action to approve the February 5th, 2026 agenda. I'll make that motion. Have a motion for Mick. Second. I'll second it by Roger. Discussion. None. Please take role. Commissioner Sinsky. Yes. Commissioner Zamansky. Yes. Commissioner Winer. Yes. Commissioner McBride. Yes. Commissioner Yoder. Yes. And Chair Whit. Yes. Thank you. Conflicts of interest. At this time, the chair will ask if any members have a conflict of interest on the approved agenda this evening. Anybody? Nope.

No. Okay. Move along. Approval of minutes. At this time, the chair can will ask for a motion to approve the minutes from February 5th, 2026 meeting. Is there a motion? Motion. Motion by Bob. Second. Second it by Marlene. Uh discussion. None. Please take role. Commissioner Sloinski, yes. Commissioner Zamansky, yes. Commissioner Winer, yes. Commissioner McBride, yes. Commissioner Yoder, yes. And Chair Whit, yes. Thank you. Correspondence has been shared with PL the planning commission and will not be read aloud tonight.

And presentation, uh, the gateway project update updates, excuse me. Uh we will not have a speaker tonight but I did talk with Israel Stone earlier today. Um and according to him they will be moving ground in two weeks on the south side of river. So and they will be uh presenting next month if anybody's interested in coming for that and we will uh have a public hearing. Um, I will open the public hearing. It is 7:30. 5 5 5:30. Oh, I'm sorry. 5:30. Yeah. 5:33.

5:33. Yes. Thank you. We're in our own time zone. Yes, we are. Yeah. Special land use request at 113 Maple Street, Personal Service Establishment. Right. So, I take it Suzanne is not here yet. Not yet. No, not yet. If there's any other public comment, you could probably start with that. Okay. Um, if there's any public comment on this special use, please come to the podium. Name and address and you have up to five minutes. Mhm. Nobody see there. You did receive one correspondence in your packet. Yeah,

we don't hear. If they're not here, right? Pardon me. I said, "If they're not here, we don't." Well, she's going to be here. She's four. Yeah. She's on her way. She called as she was Yeah. had the wrong She thought the meeting was at seven. Uhhuh. So, um, so do we skip over to the next Do I close it and can I reopen it or we just have to wait for or wait? I can give my Oh, please. All right. My review. All right. Yep.

So, Suzanne came. she is looking to um do a sort of wellness space and I will let her sort of elaborate on that and exactly what she plans to do. Um 113 Maple currently has a special land use permit from 2002 for a real estate office. This was something that we did get some insight from the city attorney on. Um real estate office is no longer a defined use as in and of itself. Um, it would probably be called a professional service establishment, which started to get into the bit get a bit weedsy as far as whether this would also fall into a professional service establishment, would it need to be a special land use change, could she keep that? The um general consensus from the attorney was that because it was deemed real estate at the time, it was real estate, insurance, and finance. So, as long as it was not one of those three, it was going to be a different use on the

um I think she's here now if you want to. All right, Suzanne, would you like to come up?

Good evening. My name is Suzanne Riley. Mhm. I'm a real estate broker and I'm also the owner of 113 Maple Street.

One of Manasty's historic Victorian homes located just south of here on the corner of Maple and Second Street. I purchased this Victorian in 1994 when it had been vacant for years and needed major repairs. I renovated and restored the home, initially intending to sell it, but ultimately decided to keep it. In 2001, the city of Manasty's planning commission granted me a special use permit, allowing this property to be used as a real estate office, which I then founded, owned, and operated as Century 21 Boardwalk for 20 years. Over the past 30 years, I've cared for this Victorian, invested in it, and maintained strong relationships with the community. Along the way, this painted lady has taught me that it's okay to embrace change. As a real estate broker for more than three decades, I've seen firsthand how change, when approached thoughtfully, can lead to happier and healthier lives. After selling my real estate company four years ago, I'm now requesting a new special use permit that would allow this property to help others make meaningful changes in their lives. With the new permit, the venue would host low impact community programs such as small groupoup meetings, workshops, and classes typically with two to 20 participants focused on health, wellness, and personal development.

Gatherings would be limited by appointment and scheduled sessions similar in size, hours, and traffic to what the property has seen for years. Attendance will be limited, parking is sufficient, and the property's activities will remain consistent with what the neighborhood has long been accustomed to. While the building has some physical accessibility limitations due to its historical architecture, I'm committed to making participation possible for everyone. Alternative arrangements will be available, including virtual access or meeting at a nearby location if needed. I've spoken with local residents and city officials and the feedback has been very supportive. There seems to be strong community interest in creating small positive opportunities for wellness, learning, and personal growth. I care deeply about this neighborhood, this city, Manaste County, and the people who live here. This Victorian has been a central part of that care for more than 30 years, and I look forward to continuing to maintain it with the same respect and responsibility now in a way that can further strengthen our community and bring people together in a positive way. For clarity, my original application referred to the space as the hub. Since then, I've learned that another group in Manaste is also considering that name. So, I've chosen a new one. If the permit is granted, this Victorian

would be called the corner Vic, a venue for inner clarity. Thank you for your consideration. Thank you. Mhm.

I would ask one more time if there's any more public comment and then I think you're good. All right. Is there any uh anyone in the audience that has any comment on this? I know I asked before, but if there's anyone, please come to the podium. None. Okay. Um, we will move along to discussion. You want to close the public hearing for that? Oh, I will close the public hearing at 540. 540. Very good. And then I think you will open the next one before we discuss. Y public hearing on the zoning amendment. Yep.

I think we do all the public hearings and then we go into group discussion is what's normally done. Okay. Um, I will open the public hearing on zoning amendment Z26-01, public or economy efficient housing overlay. It's 541. Okay. Um, do we have any public comment?

No. The uh any p Okay. Any public comment on this? Please come to the podium. George Butler, 547 First Street. You've heard from me before. I'm very excited about this, not only for uh those who own smaller properties that they can renovate or rebuild on that if necessary. So, that's exciting for them. Also, the idea of tiny homes on tiny lots makes a lot of sense. It provides uh affordable housing for workforce, something we're really after. And so, I don't know how many properties there are that are available or could be available, but uh that'll be a help to workforce housing um where you can build smaller because of the cost of building. So, I'm very excited for that. I'm really thrilled for uh the work that uh our staff has done on that. and uh looks wonderful to me. So, I celebrate that. Thank you.

Thank you. Anyone else?

I think it's good that, you know, someone wants to do something. Can I have your name, please?

Oh, Rand Randy Paper, 221 Washington Street. I think it's, you know, good that somebody wants to do some of that vacant property, but I I guess I would object to the fact that you're going to try to put eight families in that little space. Two people, two families in a little, you know, my mom lives at Green Acres and 400 square ft, 500. There's nothing. There's nowhere to put anything. There's nowhere to store anything. You know, I'm I'm fearing that what the yard's going to look like after time, you know. I mean, just because there's no storage, you know, there's living space is very limited in that amount of room. And right now, the way the zoning is, you can put a house there with 960 square ft. But you're putting two gallons of water in a onegon bucket. And that's just my feeling is about it.

Thank you. All right. Two gallons of water in one gallon bucket. There you go. Anyone else? No. Okay, we'll close the public comment and close the public hearing on this and then it is uh 5:44. We will open the public hearing uh for the proposed master plan is 5:44. Master

there's some in here with me. What do you need? I said I thought there was some in this. Ask him again. Just make sure. Yeah, run through. You going to run through it or anything? Any corrections that you had, Matt? Yeah, I can run through it.

Go ahead. So you I received one email of correspondence which is attached in your packet. I also received input from the county planning department. Um the memo is attached in there. Um the biggest piece of comment I received was from department heads and city council. This I organized in an Excel file. I gave you a copy, but it's kind of a bit weedsy to go through. These were all of the updates, most of which were made. There were a few that we decided were maybe too specific to list something or maybe wasn't we had if a department head gave a different answer than a different department head and they were contradicting, I usually just left it out because I don't want people disagreeing on the things that are going into this. um or if someone thought maybe it was being too specific about something they thought was vague moving forward. That was another common um contradictory comment I received. I guess some of the biggest things, one thing that wasn't changed, and I did talk to Bill about this a few days ago, was the future land use images. Um some of them not being from Manaste. I think that this is a relatively common practice in master plans just because you are highlighting where you see those spaces in the community going. Um I think it's hard to set future land use goals if those types of land use already are existing and so that's where that stems from. Um, we also don't necessarily have highdefinition images of spaces that would accurately

represent the definitions of the future land uses that were proposed. Um, so that was a suggestion that wasn't changed. Um, I heard Micku discussing some of these charts whether they were verified. For the most I everything has sort of where she got that information from from the bottom and I I will take her word for that. That's really the best that's that's the best I got. I sure I can't I can't necessarily fact check all of that.

Um we did include the social district. That was something that was left out of the initial plan. Um some of the language around man-made lake. We included pitchers thistle that wasn't in there already. Um the word blight was only used once in the actual contents of the plan. So, we added a sentence on um cleaning up blight in the housing goals and cleaning up neighborhoods. That was a recommendation that came from the county. In terms of process, after you guys adopted or recommended the draft, it went to city council and it was um approved to go into the public review period and Tanya came to the council meeting to present. Uh the general consensus with any edits was that that is the purpose of the public review period and so we were going to be continuing to take edits while she worked on these that we had received prior to that. Um we sent out notices to all of our local utility and neighboring community partners which I have copies in your packet for. This was just the letter that went out addressed to each of them. I've got the list here. They also received notice of tonight's hearing.

Um, besides that, I submitted spelling and grammar suggestions. Uh, I don't have a good way of checking all of that, nor do I have the time to check all of that again. So, I'm hoping that and I know that she does do a final spell check and any spelling and small things like that can be fixed after the adoption. Okay. And this will be a recommend that were kind of left over from the template. Mhm. Well, you know, names and and some of the spelling it looked like when they were filling in the templates that they were Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bob, I got your name added. What? You weren't on it. You are now. You're on it now.

Blame list. On the blame list. Yep. Somebody now. We updated the Yep. We got Bob's name added. Um, and I've worked with Tanya quite a bit this week to continue adding some of these edits as I've gone through, but um, last I checked everything on that Excel sheet that I provided a recommendation for. Um, you can see things that I said I think this is okay to not fix or to leave as is. Um, everything was was completed on there. Okay. And that's all I got.

All right. Thank you. Yeah. and we'll move along to public comment on the proposed master plan. If there's anyone in the audience that has anything, please come to the podium. You have up to five minutes. Name and address, please.

550, we will close that portion of the public hearing. Okay. And then we'll move along to public comment on agenda related items. All comments and handouts from the speaker at the podium will go through the chair. Also, there will not be any interaction interaction, excuse me, between the podium and audience. These rules cannot be followed. The chair can adjourn the meeting. And we will uh go to new business. Uh special land use request 113 Maple Street, professional service establishment.

Personal personal cover. Yes, personal. Okay. So, discussion. I I think it's it's reasonable for that area and uh that neighborhood. I didn't see anything that would be um problematic for the community. And I saw that there wasn't any negative comments about what kind of programs were going to be uh in the establishment. And it's just nice to see that that building is going to continue to have use. Mhm. Exactly. Mhm.

I'd like to know I I've been in that building. I almost bought it years ago and um it's small property and the just the driveway in the backside. I don't know how many employees are going to be there and then how many people per day where they're all going to park. Is that all street parking? She has four parking spots mapped out. Four or five, isn't it? Five. I think that's a sizable piece of concrete where the parking Yeah, five. That's a very good size park drive

in our discussions. Um, so there's no designated number of spots for a personal service establishment and I kind of took the liberty that if if what she has had has worked thus far, um, I'm comfortable that this won't be a higher traffic establishment than a real estate office. I think it would be like more or less one each kind of programs. Yeah. Pretty comparable. Yeah. And actually even with the I think there's a garage on that building too, isn't there? Yes. Yeah. That could take employees can park in that garage which opens up spaces. Mhm. In front two. Yeah. One or two spots. So yeah, cuz I know going to the Ram still you have a hard time and have something at the same time. It's

Yeah. Well, really going to be bad. But those are probably going to be far and few in between u because um the hours. Could I bring Suzanne up again? Suzanne, could you please come up? Mhm. Um I if you don't mind, we'll ask a couple questions. Um if there's any any questions from the commission. Roger, you always have something. Yeah, I do. But uh as far as people teaching these classes, are there going to be any professional people or yourself or who's going to be holding these

practitioners who are Yes, they would be instructing? Yes. And how and then you would plan on having x amount of people at a gathering or a meeting or a I would anticipate two to 20 at the at the most. Um it would be uh the we would have a schedule

and it would be an online website as well as printed material and um it would probably be small small groups that would be getting together but instructors at certain times that um wouldn't be any more than the real estate company that I had. I had 21 agents at my peak, right? And so it would be probably less than that factoring in their clients and their customers um plus my staff at the time as a real estate office. So I don't anticipate it being any busier than that.

Okay. All right. And then you have the parking there. Are the five slots are they for the participants or the group or for the people that work there? for the participants. The um instructor would probably be one of those vehicles. A lot of times people carpool together um as well if it's if it's a group. Um there might even be people walking from the community. So um I don't anticipate it being any more than what I've had in the past 20 years or 30 years. Okay. All right. and hours would be

similar to the hours that we had um depending on if there were morning sessions scheduled trying to accommodate to the community what they're looking for. Okay. And then if some were a little after hours just like in real estate. What were your hours on the real estate side? We were typically um 8 to 5 but then it was around the clock. We were there 11 o'clock at night sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. But you wouldn't foresee your clients or or

for this event, the new I I can't imagine that I would have anything that late, but there may be if there's an event going on that that would accommodate for the an afterwork type session for sure there would be something but not till it wouldn't be any different than a real estate office. We worked late evenings and Yeah. Okay. Yeah. As far as the parking, I think there's enough parking, but you know, we've been after on this commission trying to get walkability in within the community. So, clients walking there is great. Um maybe can add more more to it. So,

right now with that new um crosswalk right there at first in Maple, the lights and everything that is just new in there, hopefully people could even if they It's not that far. We're all spoiled, I think, on our We're so used to parking outside on the door everywhere. But really, a a block is not far at all. No, block or two. Exactly. Worst case scenario, right? And there's other similar businesses on Maple Street. You have the Lighthouse Pregnancy Center, you have the church, and they don't seem to have had any problems that I'm aware of. So, I don't see it being an issue. Did you have any correspondence from anybody? Yeah, you guys have one in the back there. That's it.

Mhm. Now, the only um and I didn't see it on the drawing, but probably in the past with with your real estate office, did you use garbage totes? Yeah. Okay. So, this wouldn't qualify for a um enclosure, would it? A dumpster. You're You're not planning on a dumpster. No, I think just if she if she were to put a dumpster, she would need to enclose it. But, but if she doesn't have a need for it. Yeah. Okay. That's Yeah, we had a dumpster on the back side of it. I think they if you had anything, they come in through the alley. Yeah. Um No, I wouldn't need one. No, I wouldn't.

All right. Okay. Okay, that was just that was my questions. Yeah, okay. Any other any other question? No, no. Thank you, Suzanne. Thank you. So, with that, um All right. Is there a motion to approve the special land use at 113 Maple Street? Professional personal. Personal. Yes. Service establishment. Yeah, I'll make a motion. Mark. Motion by Roger, second by Bob. Any further discussion? None. Please take role. Commissioner Sloinski, yes. Commissioner Zamanssky, yes. Commissioner Winer, yes. Commissioner McBride, yes. Commissioner Yoder,

yes. And Chair Williff, yes. Congratulations. Approved.

Okay. Next is the uh zoning amendment Z226-01 economy efficient housing overlay. So go to discussion on that. Anything? Well, I'm just kind of surprised that, you know, a lot of the homeowners who are are really being given an incredible advantage over the current ordinance um haven't stopped by to uh comment on it because one of the things that this ordinance does is allows them to build on their site. If if for example, if you're if you're on one of those sites and your home burns down, you're out of luck. You you you can't rebuild under the current ordinance. Uh in addition, um a lot of homes can't do anything as far as remodeling or changing the scope of their homes. They're really trapped in in the footprint that they currently have. This will allow some homeowners to be able to have some expansion uh in addition to the fact that um some of these vacant lots will now be buildable, which is important for the city because we really are in a in a a shortage. So, that's the only thing I was surprised because there's 150 homeowners that are currently living on those lots that are going to have a benefit of being able to have a property that will no longer be tied to an ordinance that was established without any kind of grandfathering clause.

Can Maddie, can you put up the uh maps of all the Yes, please. square feet. So, this is the 2500 to 6,000 or just below 6,000. Um, right now the minimum is 6,000 square ft for lot size.

I almost would say we should look more closely at this one. This is going to be 3,000 to 6,000. So, the ordinance addresses 2500 to 6,000 um for the sake of including the odd cases where you don't have 30 ft um where you do have 30 ft of frontage but you don't have 3,000 square ft in your lot because with the minimum width and the setbacks, you do still need 30 ft of frontage to um meet this overlay. So, I think this is a slightly better representation, but I wanted to accommodate for um any oddballs in there that

So, with this language that we're talking about, anyone that has a smaller lot will be able to build if something were to happen to their house. Yes. Yep. So the ordinance right now for nonconformities says that by grace of God or act of fire or natural disaster, if your home is destroyed to state of being totaled um by definition of your insurance, uh you would need to rebuild to the rules of the ordinance. Which that being said, could you take other paths to get it approved and pursue a variance? Probably. uh you already had a home there

and this is you know an extreme disaster but this would provide I think some security. Um and as well as you know our housing structures are aging and I think that this provides some some lenience to be able to rebuild and to upgrade homes on these on these smaller lots. Okay. When I moved back to Manasty I bought a house on a 3600 ft lot. So if something would happen to that I would have been out of luck. Yeah. And and you really can't even sell them unless you have a neighbor who's willing to buy because what can you do with a community garden? Well, you have to have so much green space and everything else. So, you're very limited.

Yeah. I think green space is 40%. Is that it? And and isn't isn't this ordinance change kind of in compliance with what the state has been recommending? I don't know if it's recommending. I think it's becoming a best practice. So, okay,

in the master plan, economy efficient dwellings are suggested as um an approach to supporting housing initiatives in the city. So, I think that this is a good timing to do this alongside adopting the new master plan. I know um Arcadia Township has done something pretty similar. Um they I believe they allow even smaller than 400. um they're in that sort of 200 range which is I think more of a common definition. So we bumped it up to 400 per your request and that was sort of the guidelines I got from the joint meeting as well was um support of this generally but wanting to limit how small we go.

I thought it was well what they're talking with the 440 sorry4 400 for duplex is what I've got in there. 440 for single. Yeah. All right. With the housing shortage. Yeah. This would definitely be a plus.

The only So that it probably also looks slightly different. And this is just the expanded version of what I have shown you in the past. Um, so making sure that this gets added to every map, every time they mention R2 zoning, every time they mention setbacks, adding a footnote. Um, that would bring people to this overlay section. So, the bulk of it is going to be in R2 as section 905, that very last section there. Um, but you may notice that it is expanded a bit. And I did have the attorney review the short-term rental ordinance um and this applicability because right now the short-term rental ordinance says that no tiny home is eligible as a rental and so we're going to add to that as economy efficient dwelling.

Okay, good. So with that said, how can uh we enforce that? Is there any way to enforce it? I I personally don't think it's going to come up unless a developer were to come right now and to buy up these lots and turn them all into short-term rentals. With instituting a cap, we're likely going to meet the cap prior to a number of homes being constructed on these lots. Wouldn't be able to get their permit, so they they wouldn't be in compliance. Well, I mean, if they

and so anything that's existing would not be considered an economy efficient dwelling. That's just an existing house. And so these are going to be anything newly built, right, on these properties and it could be something that we include in the permit as a stipulation. Okay. All right. And I think enforcement longterm might get weedsy if this is really popular and a lot of people start to build. I also think if this is really popular, maybe we reook the overlay. idea and make it more of a permanent solution in the district.

Um, but in these next few years, while we inch towards that cap, I think that we want to make sure that this overlay addresses housing. And by doing that, we we did include the short-term rental aspect. All right. But enforcement, I mean, I know I know you put a stipulation in, correct? Mhm. Will or? Yeah, we would.

But what can what else can be done? Just trying to protect neighborhoods. And I'd hate to see somebody go in, build a couple tiny houses, and then try to put them up for short-term rentals. I They would still have to file with the city as the short-term rental registration, and then we wouldn't issue the registration and then acting as a short-term rental. It would be subject likely to the enforcement that we have in place for the short-term rental ordinance. I I just think we're trying to avoid that. We have the same fear. We really I I really would hate to see that. And it's happened in Grayley. Yeah,

they there's one lot that's I think it's got five tiny homes on it right now and some of them are short-term rentals. So I I think we're just trying to avoid that completely. I guess I don't I don't know another way

to go about it besides educ you know educating when someone purchases the lot and they they would need to go through us to get the building and the zoning permits and we say you know this is a stipulation of this overlay and being able to build on these properties. um using it as a stipulation in the land use permit and then not issuing registration are really the only three things that I can think of that that would exist regardless cuz I know we set a limit on how many it went to city house and none of these would be eligible changed it for the and that how many are we allotted for short-term rental do you know

I think it's 166 mm 5% of the total doors in the community. And so we they wouldn't even be part of that number. No, because they're not because they're not they don't permit. Yeah. So they wouldn't they couldn't get

the registration. But what I'm also saying is, and perhaps, you know, council also changes this when it gets to them because this is going to have to go through council as well, and they could have a different idea on what the short-term rental um enforcement would look like or whether they want that included. I do not really foresee with the number of rentals we have available that this could be um a major issue. maximum 20, which feels like a lot. Um, but I mean, there's 900 of these parcels that fall into this. And I I just feasibly I think that there's not enough time to build the number of houses to turn into short-term rentals. with how long I think it's going to take us to reach our cap. I think we will we will likely reach the cap um relatively quickly. I sent out notices two days ago to that list. Um and something that Jerry and I didn't realize is some of these private companies, Manasty Vacations has a bulk of our rentals and they do they don't use Airbnb or Verbbo and so Granicus doesn't pull those up. And so knowing that and knowing how many he has, I think we're closer to the 160 than we had previously thought. I don't think we're going to reach it this year, but I think that we're we we will soon.

Okay. Okay. So, we do have some getting back to the enforcement, we do have some avenues avenue for enforcement. Yeah. Okay. Is that a good thing? And I think if it if it is a big issue and people are calling me and I want to buy these lots and turn them into short-term rentals, I would come back to you guys and I would say we need to we need to amend this. Yeah.

To include something for enforcement or re relook it. But I don't majorly foresee that. And um if you want you could always do a PUD if you wanted to build a bunch of little tiny rentals. I think that was what I would I would have to say. We didn't include PUDS in this because that waves some of the the zoning and so I I didn't include that in this section and I think that that would be the only way to do tiny rentals. Okay. Yeah. There's a lot of regulations of a PU to go through, right? Be very including us. Yeah. And it would it would come back to you guys ultimately.

So we're somewhat protected then. Yeah. Okay, we have a final plate. Yeah. Okay, I I'm good with it. Everybody good? All right. Any other questions? No. Discussion? Okay. I'll ask for a motion uh to recommend language for economy efficient housing overlay zoning ordinance amendment to city council. I'll make that motion. Motion by Mick. Second. Second by Roger. Further discussion? None. Please take role. Commissioner Sinski. Yes. Commissioner Zamanssky. Yes. Commissioner Winer. Yes. Commissioner McBride. Yes. Commissioner Yoder. Yes. Chair Wetler.

Yes. Motion approved. All right. And we'll move along to proposed master plan. So, any discussion on that? What a master plan. Yeah, that was a lot of reading. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was like the fourth time. But uh but actually I think it it it's coming about you. I mean it's a good vision for our community. I think we've covered all the key vision spots and and I think uh people who read it and use it will benefit from it. I I thought it was pretty clean. Yeah.

Not pretty clean, clean. So I mean nothing's 100%. You know, I'm sure there's a period or something missing. But it was it was clean and those things can be can be tweaked. It's a it's a huge thing to sit down and catch all those. It's a living document. It's always going to change. Supposed to be alive and updated every year and you guys Yes, you guys should review it annually. And so so let's put that on the schedule for once a year to review because we we really it's a it's an RC requirement. I think I think we did one the year before we started the new one. I think is the the one

I think you would have RRC says you should do it every year and so does the planning enabling act. So it's probably just been considered reviewed since it's been worked on every year for the last

few years. But I will say Tanya and I I think well Tanya I think did a really good job of addressing the things on this list and um I think we seamlessly added majority of these comments. There were things that she had questions on I wasn't confident on. We left out um or we had contradicting comments. But for the most part I would say all of the almost all of these were addressed. And I think I'm confident in the way that they were addressed. Yeah, I think you did too. No, we are we uh I didn't see this until now. Are we good in the package?

Yep. Yeah. No, we're just we're just talking about No, I've copied I so I didn't have um I She sent me the master plan, the updated copy the day that I sent out the packet. Okay. Um All right. I got that really recently and so I didn't have a chance to go through these comments prior to that. And so, um, I went through and there were some that weren't done and so I reached back out to her and I we've been working on it this week to get all of them addressed and I didn't didn't get the final copy till today. Hence why this is your first time seeing this list.

All right. So, that was my concern because where was this? Where did this come from? So, we good for a motion? Yeah. Yeah. I'll make I'll uh ask make a motion to recommend adoption of the proposed city of Manaste master plan to city council in constituting the planning commission to approve of a such of a such master plan. So is there a motion? Motion by Bob second. Second by Marlene. Further discussion? None. Please take a role. Commissioner Slovenki. Yes. Commissioner Zamansky. Yes. Commissioner Winer, yes. Commissioner McBride, yes.

Commissioner Yoder, yes. Chair Whitler, yes. Motion. Uhhuh. And we will go to old business, which we have none. Public comments and communication. There's anyone in the audience that has anything, uh, please come to the podium. Name and address, please. And you have five minutes. So, anybody None. Please, uh, we'll move along to staff reports.

Okay, chill update. So, Jackie, Jerry, and I have been remarkably busy signing chill contracts, which is very exciting. Um, I would say the bulk of the last two weeks I couldn't even sit down at my computer to check my email because we've had contractors and homeowners in and out of the office every single day 8 to 5. That being said, we have signed most of the contracts. Um, there are still a contractor, one contractor we have coming in tomorrow. um one a couple projects we still need bids for um one household that underwent lead testing and so that has a different approach because we have to wait until the ground thaws. That's my update. We did get a roof done, our first our first project complete. Um I am feeling much more confident about the May extension and that deadline. And I think that um I'm very proud of Jerry, Jackie, and I and picking up it. I think it's very hard to pick up where someone left off in something of this size. And it took us a long time to um understand where Teresa left off and to pick up from there and keep the ball going. And so we've had a lot of hurdles and I I'm very happy with where we're at now and I'm feeling um much more optimistic about these projects getting done in a timely manner and I think that um homeowners are feeling much better about it too. Childcare zoning amendments. So, next meeting we're going to have Mike Sigola from Networks Northwest present um on

I don't remember their formal title for the initiative on um I'm sorry I'm Can you guys be a little bit quieter? I'm sorry. Good.

Thank you. Um he will be presenting on child care language. So, we got language from McKenna summer of 2024 that's in your packet. Networks Northwest is providing some sample language to the rest of Manasty County. They have not written up language for us. And this is because Mike thinks that the um McKenna language is essentially what he would write. And so, we are going to get together before April and tweak it a bit. and he's got some statistics on child care in the county. Um, but I think it's really great that the county is going to be hopefully passing these amendments in unison and making an effort to bring child care to the area. Um, I guess I also already mentioned, but I did send out notices for short-term rentals on Wednesday. Um, I think a big reason that so many are unregistered is just lack of knowledge on the new ordinance. Um, I noticed that a lot of these houses have owners that live out of state and a lot of these property owners are up to date in the existing rental program and I would imagine they're just unaware of some of these changes that we've made. And it's hard to explain when they know that they're up to date as a short-term rental that we would then change the short-term rental if you're not up to date in local news. And so Jerry and I um hope to take more of an educational warning approach this year. And you know, I'll send out this first round of letters. I'll probably at least send one more round to those that don't respond. I think we'll probably get a lot of angry response from this first

round, but I think that in getting close to this cap, I'm much more worried that people will I think people will be more concerned that they're not going to get into the cap than they are with a one-time ticket. And so continuing to warn and continuing to educate people is going to be our approach probably up until close to the summer before we start um formal enforcement I would imagine. And then next year and every year moving forward we're going to take the enforcement approach. Um,

I just I have a feeling that a lot of people are just unaware and I don't know the best tactic to notify people all across the country of what Manaste zoning amendments are aside from sending them letters and if I had their emails, I would send them emails.

And so that's not on any any type of documentation, the owner's emails. So, the current application, we ask for email and phone number and we're pretty good. If we get one without one, we give it back and we, you know, we need your contact information because we're we need to contact you for inspections and if you're missing any documentation. Um, AGS handled them for a while. We don't have their permits and BSNA. Um, if it's a property owner that owns a lot of properties or they do a lot of development or they've been doing work recently, we have their email, but it's not something that gets automatically included. And so, if no one's taken the step to do that yet, I I I've been trying to dig, but

letters was the was the quickest approach for this batch. for for those that are in like rental programs that they have companies up here do, can you can you send like a master letter to the people who are managing those and let them contact them letting them know? Um, I think for the most part all of those are they have they already got

have registered? Yeah, those have been pretty good because once we get one from one, we get a multiple. Um, I guess I don't have any way of knowing if they're aligned with them. Um, we'll see what the letters say and what type of response we get. I have a feeling that we'll get um a pretty good response and I get even after the um the paper posted after last meeting about the 89 unregistered, we did get a couple. And so I think just continuing to educate and continuing to share that this is now in place is going to be be helpful.

Okay. Thank you. Anything Jackie? Nope. Okay. Uh meeting training attended by the members. Uhhuh. Uh last week um myself and Roger and Marlene attended the the training uh and the week before I attended the training the Wednesday before that. So yeah, we attended three sessions. I emailed Cara from MSU, so she hasn't gotten back to me, but I will follow up with her. All right. On making sure that those get recorded. 25. We just work on 26.

Y. So I think everybody is caught up. I think I'm caught up with 25 and then I'm not quite this next one coming up in a couple of weeks for this year. Mhm. Right. Okay. So I'm caught up. Well, you were a late joiner, Bob. So we'll let that go. Gap in there. And Bob and I attended last Thursday the recreation uh seminar down at the Westshore building or um that was a pretty good one. It was got to ask some good questions on it. Um I signed Pam signed up for the planning and zoning essentials webinar. I got Mark signed up. Marlene, I know you were interested. Yeah,

it is online if that's if you're going to be able to access that just because it's It's in the evening, so I won't be able to do it here. Okay. What is the date on that? The I think it's the 25th and 26th. Yeah. 22nd of March. 25th and 26th of March, I think. From 6 to 8. And I haven't signed you up yet because I wanted to check with you if that's going to work. Yeah, I'll check with my son. Okay. Give me a call.

Couple weeks ago, I was at the state surveyors convention. There's a couple classes I took. I'm going to get the stuff you would where I think may fall into our stuff to see if that qualifies for continuing. I just there were six and seven hour seminars I was sitting on and stuff. So doesn't hurt. Yeah. And then Mick, you mentioned a housing in April. Yeah, the housing conference. Um the NARO. Will you send it to me? Okay. I couldn't find what you were talking about. Okay. and I will get that covered. Well, congratulations everyone. You're caught up on 25 now. We're moving along. So, moving along. Yeah.

Then right after that, we'll go to 27 mid mid year. Yeah. 26. No, we'll move to 27 after you're done. Oh, yeah. Be ahead of the curve. Yeah. Be ahead of the curve. All right. All right. Very good. And now move to member discussion. Roger. Uh the only question I have is uh we asked uh Maddie here a couple weeks ago was about the uh Catholic Central School building. If No, nobody knows. No. Okay. As far as I know, it hasn't sold. I hear all kinds of rumors, you know, and I just thought maybe somebody What building is that? Catholic Central. Oh, yeah.

So, okay. We don't know nothing about it. I haven't heard anything. All right. It's off the tax roll again. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Officer. Yeah. No, that's good, Marco. That's all I got, buddy. Okay. Thank you, Marlene. Nothing. Okay, Pam. Um, two things that people commented to me on. One's one is the uh new sign for the Century 21 on First Street. It's on a pole, but I think it's an old pole. It's not a new one. And I told them it might be have been grandfathered in because it is the same pole that was there. That's what I thought. the same pole, the same size. Nothing's changed on that size.

And that's what I told them. I thought it was just, you know, they were using the same, so it was an issue. And the other one is I'm sorry, Mick. Um, they don't like the idea of the band shell being down at the beach. They were wondering why you can't put it at the Catholic school. Cuz we don't own the Catholic school. I know. I said you have to. But but I don't think they've seen the latest design, the amphitheater because it was it was but but I don't think they realize it's actually just a dune. Yeah. Um she she was just concerned about the parking and why can't there be something to be used year round and I I said she was talking to the wrong person. She needed to talk to you guys.

Well, actually she needs to talk to the It's not us. It's the beach. It's Yeah, the the beach master plan. Yeah. Yeah. But so that's it. How's your light? The church light. Oh, the church light. Um doing they're doing much better. Okay. He called today. Um it's still pretty bright, but it's he's doing better about turning it off. Okay. Nick, uh how many chill grants have actually been issued so far since you were talking about contracts that we've signed? Don't know off hand. Okay. So there's 13 households. Mhm.

One is waiting on lead, so we haven't signed any. The other 12, we've at least signed one. Oh, no. One is only doing one project and we are we have I have one bid hopefully coming tomorrow for her projects. And so she two we haven't signed any um 11 households we've signed at least one more most of them more. Okay. Wouldn't you say? Yeah. Yeah. Uh yeah. Nothing. Still playing catchup on February was a disaster month and so I'm still trying to be trying to head above water for a bit. Okay.

All right. Uh the only thing I have is curb cuts. I've been I've been asked again about curb cuts that um if somebody wants to do a double double driveway we our ordinance doesn't allow it. Um so is it something that you know we could revisit? I know before we it was brought up and parking was an issue about taking parking away from the city, but yeah, I can't imagine more than 10 people would would partake in a uh widening their driveway.

Well, you look at a cur existing curve cut for a driveway, if you're going to make it for a double drive, that's not even half a car length for that. You're only another 8 ft drive. That's not a car is big 12 14 ft. So you're not taking a full parking spot from anybody at all. Having a shared driveway cuz my house used to have a shared driveway and it it's crazy. Mhm. You're always somebody have to move because they parked too much and I don't foresee that as a good thing for us to I don't think they would be shared. No, they wouldn't be shared.

It would be widening. together, they move over and you can't get in because it'd be a what we're looking at is the driveways where okay, you've got a family that's two cars parking one behind the other. You want to put the second spot in so the two family people in that family can park side by side so they don't have to keep jockeying cars around. You would still have to be three feet from the property line so you couldn't you couldn't combine driveways. I don't know. It's something that again I've been asked and I'd like to revisit here in the very near future since spring is coming and construction season. So, of course, I know on on all the state highways, we don't have any control at all. Right.

So, yeah, they've got they've got strict uh guidelines to follow on that. And I and there may be guidance from it might be that we'd have to get Mr. Makula to come in. Yeah, he would probably be included in that decision. Expert on that if he wanted to up the deposit for the curb cut maybe if if we're allowing them to touch more of the street. So could we bring this I don't know what we have for April but maybe. So they might want to involve the engineer spicer on it too. Okay. Cuz they have an understanding what's how it would work. Jeff, we do have one part and they can hit another part.

Good thought, Bob. No, we brought you back for that reason. I hit the seat. All right. Uh, that is all I have for tonight. So, those who stayed, thank you. Yeah. And um it is 6:32 and I will take a motion to adjourn. Hey, I thought with that packet we we had loaded up that was all cut and dried. That's not coming. Made it better. Yeah, that that helped him. But he got what they wanted. So they're two weeks I think testing

uh according to his testing