City Council - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, August 25, 2026

The Olivette City Council approved special permits for Rick's Ace Hardware and an automotive repair facility, and granted an easement to Spire. Public comments focused heavily on nuisance issues from AZZ galvanizing and concerns about the Indian Meadows Pavilion, while the council also discussed a multi-year grant for North Price Road.

About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Olivette, MO
Meeting Date
August 25, 2026

Transcript

333 sections

0:03Speaker 6

All right. Good evening, everyone. We'll call the Olivet City Council meeting on August 25th, 2026 to order, please. Can we please have roll call?

0:13Speaker 13

Mayor Lewis.

0:14Speaker 13

Chairman Pro Tem Pashaun Hellman. Here. Council Member Clark.

0:18Speaker 13

Council Member Solomonov.

0:20Speaker 13

Council Member Jurgel.

0:22Speaker 6

All righty. Are there any communications to share at this time?

0:26Speaker 13

I have no written communications.

0:28Speaker 6

All right. We'll move on to item number three, City Manager's Report, please.

0:32Speaker 12

Good evening. Let me share my screen.

0:44Speaker 8

All right. Good evening, everyone.

0:57 – 4:32Speaker 12

So I have a number of upcoming events. We are winding up summer and fall is always super busy for us. So we encourage everybody to come out to Paris Baguette, August 31st, which is next Monday, between 8 and 10 a.m. in the morning to meet with one of our police officers. So Coffee with a Cop will be during that time. There will be coffee and some limited free pastries. So if you have not had a chance to try a pastry at Paris Baguette, this would be a great opportunity to do that, as well as come talk to one of all of its finest. And September 15th is Olivet Night Out. So this is an opportunity for you and your neighbors to gather, to have a block party. And then if you sign up, some Olivet City officials, including the police officers, the fire department, you might get the fire truck or the ambulance to come and to stop by and to say hello. meet and greet with our Olivet community. So we would encourage all of the neighbors to go ahead and sign up. If you have questions, please reach out to Lieutenant Seltzer in the police department. And every year we do the Battle of the Badges, which is a competition between the fire department and the police department. It is essentially a blood drive for the American Red Cross. And both our fire department and our police department have compelling stories, personal stories about grandchildren and their need for blood, hence the blood drive. And so individuals who come and Donate Blood are given an opportunity to cast a vote for either the police department or the fire department. And at the end of the drive, the winning department receives some gift from the losing department. The fire department has more years that they have won than the police department. So come out, donate for a good cause to the American Red Cross, and then choose which public safety group is your favorite. Trivia Night is being hosted at Five Oaks on September 18th. There are nine tables left, so bring your friends for a table of eight. The theme this year is 90s and 2000s sitcoms, so there should be something for everyone. Register for your table. We hope to see you there. I think there's at least one staff table. And I think a couple other folks have gotten tables for the trivia night. The Great Olivet Cleanout is happening again. It is at Five Oaks on Warson. This is a change from Stacy Park. So in years past, it's been at Stacy Park. This year, it is at Five Oaks on Warson. It's on the lower parking lot. So this is an opportunity for residents to either have documents shredded. If you have some of those in your office or your home office, this is not for a business clean out. But if you do have a home office and you have documents that you would like shredded or if you have any e-waste, so almost anything with a cord, they will take and recycle those for you.

4:32Speaker 6

Do you know if it's still a drive-thru?

4:34 – 6:42Speaker 12

Yes, as far as I know, it is still a drive through. And so there is a very specific route for you to to come through. They will take the items out of your vehicle. It's very easy. You should be in and out in not much time at all. So and we did receive the grant. So we've signed off on that and we did receive the grant for this. The fall and winter activity guide is out. These are all of the recreational programs that the city is offering through the fall and the winter. We have some hard copies out in the lobby if you would like. It's also on the city's website and should be hitting, should actually be in homes already. So we would encourage you to check those out. We have activities for all ages. And then I just always encourage everyone to sign up for Olivet Weekly, which is our weekly e-newsletter. And then just some general city updates. Our new finance director, Julio Gwynn, starts tomorrow. So we probably in September, we will be bringing her to council to introduce her. We are recruiting for another police officer two weeks ago. I told you that we had made conditional offers to two individuals. One of them accepted. They are in the pre-employment screening phase. The other candidate decided that he was going to remain at his place of employment. And then the follow up from the Hicks Carter Hicks, the employment engagement committee is meeting this week. They're going to start working on employee recognition. And then I have asked Hicks Carter Hicks to craft a proposal to help the city with an internal communications plan. One of the. comments and areas of deficiency on the survey was communication. And that's a pretty broad topic. And so I do think working with them to create and improve some of our internal communications is a good start to making headway on that survey result.

6:42 – 6:53Speaker 6

Are they going to talk to employees to understand kind of like what the, I know they have the survey results, but to understand like where they saw gaps in communication, will they have those conversations before they craft communication?

6:54Speaker 12

They're going to craft me a proposal to do it. So like, we'll get a scope of work.

6:57Speaker 6

Oh, proposal to even reach out and talk to people. Gotcha. Correct. Not build a plan and then say, okay. Correct. Gotcha.

7:05Speaker 12

And then here are your upcoming meeting dates. And so with that, I can answer any council questions.

7:12Speaker 6

Questions? No. All right. Thank you very much. All right. We are going to move on to staff reports, please, then.

7:21 – 13:34Speaker 12

All right, starting with fire department. So we often talk about the fire department and their firefighting training and their calls for fire. But I thought this month we might just kind of highlight the fact that they do run an ambulance. And that takes a good amount of their time. They actually run quite a few medical calls. So just... Looking at this chart, this is on average about five calls a day that they're running. As you can see, they spend a lot of time in the city of Olivet, but we are also contracted for fire service, fire and EMS service for the pocket of unincorporated that's just north of us on Dealman. So we respond their st louis county contracts with us pays us to provide that service to them, and then we do get called out of town, often to creep core or you city or certain things on the highway, we might get called out for for both police and for Ms and fire. Parks and Rec, we just finished earlier this month, Municipals. So Municipals is this part of this photo right here, is offered every other year and it is a camp that highlights The city departments. So the police department had a day and brought out the mounted patrol from St. Charles County, brought out some therapy dogs, brought out some other fun police things. The fire department had a day, had a half a day, and they got to go down the slide in the fire department because we have a slide and not a pole. And they got to do some other fun firefighter things. This particular picture, we had an opportunity to partner with Emerson, who is a business here in the city of Olivet. And they came and did science things with the kids. So they did the egg drop project. learning about gravity and force distribution and things like that. And so the kids had a good time. And then the other thing with the Parks Department, this happens to be the segment, one of the new segments of the Centennial Greenway. So now that that Greenway has been in for more than one year, maintenance falls to the city. And so this is our horticulturalist and our park staff who are clearing the fence lines. along that particular section of the trail. Planning Department. So these are fiscal year to date. So from June of 25 through July. No, I'm sorry, July of 25 through June of this year. So as you can see, they were pretty consistent. Lots of people got their roof replaced in this particular fiscal year, most likely from the storm that came through. in this in May of last year. And we see a lot of tenant finishes. So this could be like reinvestment by businesses or new businesses coming in or updates to businesses. So this is a good sign in what has been keeping one aspect of what has been keeping Carlos and his staff very busy over the course of the year. The police department, Officer Bagsby, this is Officer Bagsby here, he went to Afina Healthcare's event talking about gun safety and particular gun locks. The Olivet Police Department donated 50 gun locks for this particular event. So this is just a reminder that our police department has gun locks available to anyone in the Community who is interested. there's no cost and they are available Monday through Friday normal business hours just go see the records clerk here at city Center if that's something that you are interested. And then Public Works. If you have driven at Price, North Price and Olive, you have seen a lot of work there. This happens to be the contractor. They did some paving overnight. They did a really nice job on that work. The work here at the 9201 Olive site where the CBD Craton building was, There has been a delay. It is not a delay related to the city. It is a delay because a pipe wasn't as deep as we thought it was. that required some changes to stormwater drains that MoDOT took a long time trying to figure out what they wanted. But work is moving forward. In fact, Spire was on site today moving the gas line that needed to be moved in order to accommodate the storm drain. So we're a little bit behind on where we thought we would be to close out this project, but It is related to situations beyond our control. And then we do have some good news. So as you might recall, we put in for a grant for reconstruction of North Price between Del Mar and Old Bonham. an STPS grant. And while we have not received the grant yet, we are on the recommended list. So East West Gateway meets later this week to review that recommended list and hopefully approve that list. And hopefully we will be approved so that we can move forward with reconstruction of that section of North Price. It is a multi-year project. So there will be design time and right-of-way acquisition time and then construction time. So it's looking probably a three to four year long process. And that is all I have, unless you have any additional questions for me.

13:36Speaker 6

Questions? No. It's very thorough. Thank you very much. Thank you. All right. We will move on to monthly financial reports, please.

14:04 – 15:57Speaker 12

All right. I'm filling in for our interim finance director who she had a previously scheduled events this evening. So, you are seeing the report for the second month of the year. As you can see, we are on track. General revenue started the year above expectations by about $37,000. General fund expenditures are also above expectations. This is normal. We have a variety of, like all of our insurances are due. So workers' comp, liability, property, all of that is due at the very beginning of the year. So that's not unexpected. It does result in an unfavorable variance. But again, we are, this is the July financial report. So at this point, we were one month into the year. It is not unusual for property taxes to be slow. Again, we get those in December and January. And Parks and Rec revenue started the year mixed, and they exceeded budget projections due to high soccer enrollments. So soccer is very, very popular. And then the chart of our month, this is our monthly 1% sales tax, which we took out a bunch of the noise. If you might remember past graphs, there were a lot of lines there. So this is just the last two years. So fiscal 25, fiscal 26, and then where we are for 27. So we are, of course, higher than 25 and a little bit below of 26. So if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer those for you.

15:57Speaker 6

Do we anticipate a drop-off or I don't remember what the drop-off, yeah.

16:02 – 16:48Speaker 12

We don't anticipate the drop-off, but I will say sales tax tends to be cyclical. So anything that we receive in September is actually from people buying things in July because it's always a two-month lag. Yeah. It could also be July is half the year and a quarter of the year. And so there are certain entities that only report sales tax half of the way through the year and a quarter of the way through the year. So that drop-off could have been somebody missed the cutoff. So there are a variety of factors that could account for that.

16:51Speaker 8

But it bounced back up.

16:52 – 17:06Speaker 12

Correct. Particularly if it's they just missed the cutoff because then you get to, you know, you get it the next month. That's all I have unless you have anything else.

17:06 – 17:22Speaker 6

Any questions? All right. Thank you. All right. We're going to move on to city council liaison reports for each council member to give an update of kind of activities they've been up to. Council member Clark. I have no reports at this time. Council Member Jurgel?

17:22 – 18:00Speaker 8

We had a parks meeting. Most of the meeting was the installation of two new commissioners. So it's kind of orienting them to the process. It was great going through it again because they went over all of city government. And I know I was given the training beforehand, but when you hear it the second time, it sinks in a little bit more. So that's always good. One other thing that's coming up with the parks is going to be the review of the Indian Meadows Pavilion. So that's on their agenda and should be moving along.

18:01 – 18:13Speaker 5

Great. Council Member Solvano. No report from you this evening. I do have an ADC meeting next Monday. It's on.

18:14Speaker 6

Oh, the light is hitting me. My mistake. It's my first day. All right. Chairman Pro Temp.

18:20 – 19:54Speaker 16

I attended the PCDC meeting on August 20th. And at that meeting, an outdoor metal canopy was approved for the brass tap to help extend the seasons for them and extend some seating outside during the wintertime months. So that was approved. And that the roof of that structure will stay throughout the year, but then there's a wall kind of enclosure that's temporary for the months of November through February. We also discussed continued discussing a text amendment for coin operated laundromats and a new single family home was approved for 1123 Hilltop and also had discussion on a text amendment to allow for other warehousing and storage that would be specifically for car condominiums. So these are spaces that would be condominiums that would be sold to individuals who would likely store their luxury cars, potentially RVs and boats, but they would be individual condominiums. So kind of a new, thing coming before the commission and so it's at the discussion stage at this point. That's all. Thank you.

19:54 – 21:00Speaker 6

Great. A couple of things. I had the privilege of speaking Chamber of Commerce for the State of the City and it's an opportunity where I get to go and give a State of the City of how we're doing from an economic and residential and development and just how we're overall you know, what is Olivet and get to brag on Olivet, which was very exciting. And a big thank you to staff, Kiana and others for helping, you know, draft things, put together a great slideshow. And it was, you know, really well received and get to meet some people there. So that was really nice. And then today I attended the Olivet Housing Authority, where they had a few procedural items, reviewing the financial audit reports, approving other things, talking about next steps on everything around some of the policies we're moving forward on the housing. So that is progressing as well. And then, yeah, those were things that I got to attend. So move on to item seven, items from council members. So a chance for us, just if we've been hearing things that you want to bring up for a future topic, we won't go deep into them now. And just an open forum. Nope.

21:01Speaker 5

Nothing for me.

21:01Speaker 6

All right. Nope.

21:04Speaker 8

Nothing for me.

21:05 – 23:19Speaker 6

Nothing for me. The only things I'll mention, since not everyone probably was able to attend previous meetings we've had, and since I see a lot of speakers here, which is going to be great, is we did at a previous work session a few weeks ago, discuss the Indian Meadows Pavilion. And as Council Member Jogal mentioned, that's going to come before Parks and Rec, where they're going to, we asked to go back to their, ask for their assessment, and then it'll come back to the Council at that point. And we'd given the direction to look at what it would take to remove and what their thoughts were. And then we'll get their feedback on that previous meeting. We'd obviously discussed flock cameras with the chief of police. And so that'll be on a future agenda. So just calling that out as well as the NID policy will be on a future agenda in the future as well. And then obviously I did get some communications on AZZ. I imagine people here to speak as well. And so appreciated that we had committed, I'd committed back that we're going to meet with our legal team to understand what options all of that has, because it is a unique situation. And then happy to meet with the concerned citizens themselves and any council are welcome to join me to want to hear everyone's, you know, concerns in person and understand everything. And then after that, we'll take whatever the appropriate actions that we can and don't know what those are right now. Can't promise anything, but, you know, want to hear from everyone and then we'll see what comes of that. All right, we're going to move on to hearing from citizens. So this is a portion of the agenda where anyone present in person or virtually may address the city council regarding any topic, including those later in the agenda. Each speaker is allowed up to three minutes to address the mayor and city council. Hearing from citizens is designed for councils to receive feedback rather than for a direct dialogue. We will take speakers in person first, followed by any online. If you're in person, please complete a speaker card and give it to the clerk. If you've already given your card to the clerk, we'll take you In the order submitted on your card, if you are online and wish to speak, please use the raise your hand feature and you will be added as a speaker. For all speakers, we ask that you state your name and address for the record prior to leaving remarks and that you keep to three minutes and just so for the equity for everyone. So first are Nancy and Bob Martin, please. And if you don't mind turning on the mic, please.

23:21Speaker 9

Yep. Perfect. Good evening. My name is Bob Martin.

23:28Speaker 17

Nancy Martin.

23:29 – 25:22Speaker 9

And we live at 39 Branford. Last week we sent all you guys an email regarding AZZ and a Missouri state statute. This is concerning AZZ galvanizing. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, for responding. Yes. Following our excerpts from the Missouri State Chapter 220 Nuisances, a nuisance is any act done or committed or suffered to be done, committed by any person or any substance or thing kept, maintained, placed, or found in any public or private property that is injurious to the public health safety, or welfare, or to permit premises to become unsightly, unsanitary, or obnoxious, or oblique to the vicinity, or offensive to the senses of users of the public way abutting the premises. That depreciates the enjoyment and the use of the property in the immediate vicinity to such an extent that it is harmful to the community in which the property is situated or such a condition exists. AZZ galvanizing fits every one of these definitions of a nuisance. It's zoned light industrial, but it's expanded several times over the years. It's not light industrial anymore. We are asking Olivet to protect its citizens from this nuisance and use statute title 7, cities, towns, and villages, chapter 71.7, I'm sorry, 71.780, nuisances, expensive suppression, how paid. The noise and toxic emissions are unbearable and hazardous to our neighbors' health and quality of life and ours. We are sleeping in our bedroom that faces away from AZC because we can't sleep in our master bedroom anymore from the noise. We can't enjoy our beautiful yard. We've lived in Olivet for 32 years. It's home.

25:23Speaker 1

Please help us.

25:24 – 25:40Speaker 9

Please help us. They're getting worse and worse. And... And we're up on Brantford High where the noise really hits us. But our neighbors in Indian Meadows are just getting creamed. They're getting gassed. It's terrible.

25:41Speaker 6

Thank you very much for coming. Really appreciate it. Thank you.

25:46Speaker 6

All right. Moving on. Ginny Littleton.

26:00 – 28:19Speaker 14

Hi, my name is Jenny Littleton. I live at 9639 Huron Drive. I just want to ask my city council if they would please support and help all of the residents deal with this Duesen's AZ galvanizing. It's to the point where my son, who's seven, he's beginning to have temper tantrums because he has a trampoline basketball hoop. a soccer net that now he can't play because when he begins to play, I have to make him come in. And so now he's getting upset, stumping, yelling in the house. What's the purpose of me having this? If I can't play, when are they going to move that company? He's seven years old. This is a point where he, he doesn't have temper tantrum. Now he's having them because he's not getting to play outside. And this was for the summer. So I had to make fun activities in my basement. So, I mean, now the children, it's to the point where I'm asking the kids in my subdivision, you guys got to go home now. You can't play here. Can we come back when the smoke is gone? Yes, you can come back. So now the kids, it's just getting to be too much. And then also I'm, I know you brought up about you're going to bring it up with the parks and you guys are going to read, discuss about the pavilion. Please move that pavilion. There's so much going on that my son is seven. He said, there's always something going on over here at this pavilion. Problems every day. He's seven. There was a time he didn't know anything about that. Now he's seven and he's saying these things. And one of the neighbors, she couldn't be here today. She did ask me until you guys decide about how you're going to move it, would you please at least move the tables underneath the pavilion while you guys are trying to figure out how you're going to move that pavilion? So until you have a due date when you're going to move it, could you please at least move the tables? Because a lot of that buffoonery that happens in the morning, afternoon, and night, they won't have anywhere to sit and lay. and do all of that extra activity that's unwanted and that we don't need. So I just wanted to ask you guys, would you please bless our community to help all the residents dealing with AZ galvanizing and the nuisance unwanted pavilion, please. Thank you so much.

28:19Speaker 6

Thank you very much for coming. All right. Wilhelmina Shackelford, please.

28:34Speaker 11

Good evening.

28:35 – 32:08Speaker 1

I'm Wilhelmina Shackle for 9656 Huron. First, I'm in agreement with Nancy and Bob. It is horrible. And lately, it's just roars so loud. 3 a.m., 4 o'clock, it wakes you up. And then you can't go back to sleep. They'll turn it off or turn it down maybe about 730, I guess, when they figure people or whatever's going on. But it's just been ridiculous, just ridiculous. And we haven't really said a lot because, you know, that there were attorneys working on it. So, you know, we want to continue that, but we need the help of the city. So I hope that that state statute will help. I got a couple other things real quick. One is our park. And I know when they redid the park. The trail, but they didn't do anything to the park. Is that on Olivet? It's kind of bumpy. You know, it's asphalt, the black that's in the actual park. in Indian Meadows. So it's kind of crumbly in some areas. So the other concern is we have two spaces in the New Park area that when we get heavy rain, it's full of water. So the kids go out there and play. Then they muddy up everything, which is by the water park. And then the other area is by the playground area around one of the trees. It's set real low so if we can get that built back up, so that the water won't set there. The other one is the trees. We have a lot of dead trees. I know they've cut some down, but when we get any kind of a rain or wind, I should say wind, there's branches all over the park. And I realized it's more than one park. So sometimes it take them a while, but then the kids are playing and you got these big branches that are laying all over the park trail. One more thing, chickens. We got the chicken poops gone from the side of the house, but there is a pen. So I've asked over and over about an ordinance to be written so that I don't care about the chickens, but they need to be fenced in in the back of the house and not in the very front. these chicken coops were on the front, on the side of the home, and I've complained for a couple of years. And so it's my understanding that all of that has been washed aside. I don't know if anybody knows if that is true, but I'm gonna research it, that that's over. The governor is the one that approved that, but it's my understanding that they've been fighting it, so I don't know. But if not, can we get an ordinance where they are fenced in, in the back? And then I think that's it. Oh, we have another area in our subdivision. I've complained about it several times. We need some help with enforcement of property upkeep. We've got a lot of issues with that. But I understand we only have one part-time person. And for this city, we could probably use one or two to just do property upkeep for all of the entire... Olivet area. And one other place is Grandview, We're at Bruce's here, Grandview, on the corner of Grandview and La Jolla. There are huge poplar trees that have grown out into the street. I've asked, you can't even see the street sign. The trees were trimmed back right at the sign, but of course they grow back. I'm asking that something be done about those trees because it's really a hindrance. If you are coming up to the stop sign and somebody's coming from the other direction, these trees are huge and they are actually in the street. You familiar with that?

32:08Speaker 18

Yeah, I've been over there in Asia.

32:11 – 32:23Speaker 1

Let's see over there. It's just worse. So we have several areas where the trees are actually growing into the street, ground up, not just hanging over. So they actually block traffic. That's it.

32:23Speaker 6

Thank you very much. Thank you. Appreciate it. All right. Stephanie Todd.

32:37 – 34:54Speaker 11

Hi, Stephanie Todd, 7 Heather Hill Lane. So I'm here to support the residents near Indian Meadows and their complaints about AZZ as an Olivet resident, but also I'm representing the Sierra Club and Dark Sky Missouri, who they have also gotten involved in these issues. There are really three issues, light trespass, potential air pollution, and noise. The light trespass that is occurring should be easy to take care of because St. Louis County already has an ordinance against it. So it'd be really good if someone from Olivet notified the county that light trespass from AZZ is shining into residence houses, shining off the property into residence houses and ask AZZ to shield their lights. air pollution and noise are more difficult however olivet can do something about it the residents have been complaining about azz for at least two years but they didn't give up they found a regulation that cities can enforce ordinances up to a half mile outside their boundaries Olivet needs to step up and support its citizens. The county does not have the necessary equipment to determine if ACC is emitting pollutants and to and to identify the pollutants. However, the outside groups that they're working with, they're trying to install air monitors and analyze air samples and noise monitors. So I encourage you to work with them to get data to back up their claims. Noise is a harder problem, but put yourself in these residents' shoes. How would you like to hear a loud bang several times in the middle of the night? I'm asking you to find a way to stop the loud noise at night and determine if AZZ is polluting the air and if they are to try to stop them. These problems should not be ignored and Olivet can and should do something about them.

34:55Speaker 6

Thank you very much. Appreciate your time. All right. Is there anyone else in the audience who wanted to speak?

35:11Speaker 11

Good evening.

35:12 – 38:32Speaker 2

My name is Denise Williams. I live at 9600 Huron Drive. I just have to say I live across the street from the park where All this noise have been going on for quite a while. And hearing this noise all day and throughout your time of rest is depreciating your livelihood. I'm 70. And I'm not getting any rest. I've retired to come home and enjoy the kids, enjoy my bed where I've been missing it for all this time. And then you come home and you're hearing all of this unnecessary noise that's not supposed to be a part of your life in Olivet. I used to call Olivet when I moved her Sleepy Hollow. Very quiet, very surreal. that has been stolen. And days and days and days have passed by. And all of you all are sleeping comfortably while we're up in the morning. I walk the trail three times a day. You hear it. It's supposed to be surreal on the path. It's supposed to be something great that you all have done for the community. I don't think so. Cause you're walking, you're smelling that stuff big, just so much smoke. It covers the whole park. The stench comes in your windows. You smell it at night, not including the noise, but the smoke, the stench. So imagine, close your eyes and imagine that's how your days are going every day. You got to deal with this every day. Your kids are inhaling this poison. We're at 70. They're cutting years off our lives smelling it, I'm sure, because it's chemicals that we're absorbing into our bodies. The kids are absorbing over at the park that is so nice to have in the neighborhood, but it's being blown straight to hell. Their lives are being cut short, and you guys are... When y'all sleep at night, just think your glory is out of it. It's causing suffering for a lot of your community. And we're just asking you to really take this to heart and understand what we're dealing with. Thank you.

38:32 – 39:01Speaker 6

Thank you very much for coming. Appreciate it. All right. Anyone else in the audience wish to speak? Is there anyone online? Please raise your hand. All right, thank you for everyone for your comments. Sincerely appreciate it. All right, we are gonna move on now to item nine, bill 3066. Could we please have the title be read?

39:01 – 39:23Speaker 13

Bill 3066, an ordinance authorizing a special permit usage for OL3BP Associates LLC, owners of the property grounds addressed as 9600 and 9606 Olive Boulevard, to permit Rick's Ace Hardware to operate an outdoor display and storage area on the east parking lot portion associated with their tenant space, addressed as 9612 Olive Boulevard. Second reading.

39:30 – 39:45Speaker 10

Good evening, Mayor, members of the Council. My name is Carlos Trejo. I'm the Director of Planning and Community Development, and I'm requesting a second reading, a call for action for this bill. We had our public hearing on August 11th. Be glad to answer any questions, and we do have a representative in attendance if necessary.

39:46 – 40:00Speaker 6

The only question I had, and I think there was an ask to look at, and I think Councilman Jurgel had asked about it, like in terms of the location, could it be wedged into the corner in the back or anything like that? Was that feasible? in terms of the drawing, if I'm remembering correctly.

40:01Speaker 8

That was related if like parking was an issue.

40:04Speaker 8

If that and that may be something that needs to be looked at if it becomes an issue or not. That's fine. And but I think that's what we were talking about.

40:14Speaker 10

That is correct. Okay. Yeah.

40:16 – 40:45Speaker 16

And I guess my question is a procedural question related just with us being a fairly new council. Should there be an issue that becomes apparent with parking or traffic movement with the location safety. What is the process for if we approve the special permit as it is tonight, but realize that it is not functioning in the way that we intended it to?

40:46 – 41:06Speaker 10

We'll engage with the applicant or the petitioner that operates a special use permit, see what we can try to mitigate, what is out there, get a better understanding, then ultimately report back to the council. The council does have the right to revoke a permit if it finds that there is some validation to the concerns that are expressed.

41:08Speaker 5

Question how do we define parking issues? Like, what do we consider that?

41:12 – 41:30Speaker 10

It's a very good question. I mean, that that site, I would assume that there will be some type of reported incident on all of. Or so, but if somebody just can't find a parking space on a specific date, they can bring that information. We can try to log it and record it, but it would have to be something that. That's known.

41:31 – 42:00Speaker 6

in there and then the the process that we had today of the people speaking before the council noting concerns or issues gets it on the record i imagine that's well and i imagine the city got notified we that could be brought forward to us but i think about hypothetically a certain parking lot you know southwest at the end of 170 i hear people complain about you know all the time it's like you if we hear about citizens something we can bring up too hopefully it's not an issue and and then ultimately it is i mean we will report back to the council the council has you know it

42:00Speaker 10

if there's a consensus that it is an issue, I would assume the council holds the authority to revoke the permit or push for a modified solution.

42:10Speaker 5

And we talked about Dobbs only using the first row of parking, right?

42:16Speaker 10

That is a private agreement. I believe that they have with the property owner that they're supposed to be using only that. Okay.

42:21Speaker 5

That's not a city enforceable.

42:23Speaker 10

It wasn't anything that we, we put it into our. Our contingencies or so, because that's more again, that's open parking. Okay.

42:33Speaker 16

Is the parking lot itself owned by 1 parcel or another.

42:37 – 42:56Speaker 10

The best of my understanding, it's all owned by the OL3BP Associates, which operates as Bianco Properties. They have the ownership of all the grounds and then Dobbs leases from them. I know there are like three different parcels identified by county, but it's one large site.

42:57 – 43:32Speaker 16

Okay. And then this is a fairly random and I do apologize. I did not send this question to you ahead of time. Has there been any consideration with the little driveway, not driveway, but right of way area in the front of that building where you have a curb cut on one side, a curb cut on the other side? Has there been any consideration to closing that driveway, this obviously is bigger than this particular special use permit, but thinking through.

43:33 – 45:40Speaker 10

It's one of those, it's a long-term discussion. We put together, the council had authorized us to do the Olivet Boulevard conceptual master plan and it identified areas and that's one of the sides. Unfortunately, with the curvature of the road is one problem. The intersections of the opposite streets on the north side is another problem. And then none of the aprons align. Easy solution is to place a median that resolve all the problems. But I'm sure you'll hear a lot about that in there. But over time, working with those property owners, we made them familiar with the concept. Ultimately, you know, and we've had discussions about, you know, kind of nudging them to think, think ahead of reassessing the whole parking layout on the shopping center. It's a, it's tough. It's something I got, you know, we're, you know, 1963, that was a determination of how that layout was, was put in place and whether they looked at the external factors and what was across the street. I can't tell you that, but it, you know, I guess we've made them aware. They know that there are issues looking at some, form a way that maybe over time that we can kind of like reshift or consolidate that, but it becomes expensive. And that becomes the key question. Is it all on their dime or is it something that we collaborate with them and partner with in that process? If you go back to the catalyst strategy, Uh, another, uh, you know, uh, uh, report that the council funded, uh, and there, why it didn't go the full extent, uh, to old bottom road. You know, it talked about creating some type of, uh, traffic, uh, uh. Improvement district or transportation improvement district to look at means of getting that, you know. Well, it needs to be reassessed in terms of where are the best points of entry, uh, and there and then. internal circulations are going to be also need to be looked at. And of course, the streetscape enhancements. So I hope that kind of addresses it. I mean, it is as long as like my response to you.

45:40Speaker 6

Probably another night.

45:44Speaker 10

But I think it can be done within, you know, the plan's horizon.

45:50Speaker 6

All right. Any other questions? I'll entertain a motion.

45:54 – 46:23Speaker 8

I'll make a motion to approve Bill 3066, an ordinance authorizing a special permit use for the OL3BP Associates LLC, owners of the property grounds addressed at 9600 and 9606 Olive Boulevard, to permit Rick's Ace Hardware to operate an outdoor display and storage area on the east parking lot portion associated with their tenant space, addressed as 9612 Olive Boulevard.

46:23Speaker 6

Second. All right. Motion made by Council Member Jurgel, seconded by Council Member Clark. Can we please pull the council?

46:30Speaker 13

Council Member Jurgel? Yes. Council Member Solomanov?

46:33Speaker 13

Council Member Clark?

46:34Speaker 13

Chairman Pro Tem Sean Hellman? Yes. Mayor Lewis?

46:38Speaker 13

The motion is passed. Bill 3066 becomes Ordinance 2836.

46:43Speaker 6

Thank you. We'll move on to, I think it's the Carlos show tonight, right? We're on to item 10, bill 3067. Will you please have the title be read?

46:50 – 47:11Speaker 13

Bill 3067, an ordinance authorizing a special permit usage for PPM Bauer LLC, owners of the property grounds addressed as 10401 Bauer Boulevard to permit advanced driver assistance systems to operate an indoor automotive repair facility within the tenant space addressed as 10401 Bauer Boulevard Suite B. Second reading.

47:13 – 47:26Speaker 10

Mayor, again, this was read at our previous meeting on August 11th, along with the public hearing. I'd be glad to answer any specific questions. We do have a representative, Mr. Corbin, I believe one of the operators in attendance.

47:27 – 47:46Speaker 6

I didn't have any questions. I think we covered it last time as far as I'm concerned. Does anyone have any questions? Not to discredit, I think the work was great last time, so we got our answer. So it's a very interesting new property to have. All right, then. If anyone doesn't have any questions, I'll entertain a motion.

47:47 – 48:09Speaker 5

I'd like to make a motion to approve Bill 3067, an ordinance authorizing a special permit used for PPM Bauer LLC, owners of the property grounds addressed at 10401 Bauer Boulevard, to permit advanced driver assistance systems to operate an indoor automotive repair facility within the tenant space addressed at 10401 Bauer Boulevard, Suite B.

48:11Speaker 6

Second. All right. Motion has been made in a second. Can we please call the council?

48:16Speaker 13

Council Member Jurgel? Yes. Council Member Solomanov?

48:19Speaker 13

Council Member Clark?

48:20Speaker 13

Chairman Pro Temp Sean Hellman? Yes. Mayor Lewis?

48:24Speaker 13

Motion is passed. Bill 3067 becomes Ordinance 2837. All right.

48:29Speaker 6

Moving on to Item 11, please. Bill 3068. Can we please have the title read?

48:34 – 48:54Speaker 13

Bill 3068, an ordinance reaffirming and adopting Chapter 115, Article 3, Section 115.080 to 115.120, Conflict of Interest for the City of Olivet, Missouri, Municipal Code and Establishing a Procedure to Disclose Potential Conflicts of Interest and Substantial Interests for Certain Municipal Officials. Second reading.

48:55Speaker 6

So we covered this last time procedural that we need to do this.

48:59Speaker 12

That's correct.

48:59Speaker 6

All right. I did not have any questions. Did anyone on the council? I had none. All right, then I will entertain a motion.

49:07 – 49:32Speaker 16

Make a motion to approve Bill 3068, an ordinance reaffirming and adopting Chapter 115, Article 3, Section 115.080 through 115.120, Conflict of Interest of the City of Olivet, Missouri Municipal Code, and establishing a procedure to disclose potential conflicts of interest and substantial interests for certain municipal officials.

49:33Speaker 6

All right. We are a second. Second. All right. Can we please pull the council?

49:38 – 49:50Speaker 13

Council member Dragal. Yes. Council member Solomanov. Yes. Council member Clark. Yes. Chairman Pro Tem Sean Hellman. Yes. Mayor Lewis. Yes. Motion is passed. Bill 3068 becomes ordinance 2838. All right.

49:52Speaker 6

We move on to item 12, bill 3069. Can we please have the title be read?

49:57Speaker 13

Bill 3069, ordinance granting an easement to Spire for the installation of an underground gas main at 9201 Olive. Second reading.

50:05 – 50:22Speaker 18

Good evening, Mayor and council members. Great news today. The Spire was on site to finally begin relocating that two-inch high-pressure main. Any questions about our discussion from a couple weeks ago or thoughts since then about the wonderful world underneath our pavement? No.

50:24Speaker 5

Or when you put it that way. Okay. I've got a lot of questions. Yeah.

50:29 – 50:48Speaker 6

I do not. I mean, nothing new to add from the last time. Okay. Very good. Yeah. Anyone? All right. And I'll entertain a motion. I guess, do we have a motion on this directly or we do have a motion, right? Yeah. Yeah. So do we need just reword it to approve this?

50:49Speaker 12

Yeah, you should just word it as a motion to approve bill number 3069, et cetera. Gotcha.

50:55Speaker 8

I would like to make a motion for bill 3069, an ordinance granting an easement to SPIRE for the installation of an underground gas main.

51:04Speaker 6

I second that. All right, motion made and seconded. Will you please call the council?

51:10Speaker 13

Council Member Jurgel? Yes. Council Member Solomonov?

51:13Speaker 13

Council Member Clark?

51:14Speaker 13

Chairman Pro Tem Sean Hellman? Yes. Mayor Lewis?

51:18Speaker 13

Motion is passed. Bill 3069 becomes Ordinance 2839.

51:21Speaker 6

Thank you very much. Thank you. Good luck. All right. Move on to Item 13, Bill 3070. If we could please have the title be read.

51:34 – 51:55Speaker 13

Bill 3070, an ordinance authorizing a special permit use for A.C. Richardson, LLC, owners of the property grounds addressed as 1215 Dealman Industrial Court to permit SSM Health Cardinal Glennon Pediatric Therapy to operate a 4,566 square foot medical clinic within the tenant space addressed as 9375 Dealman Industrial Drive. First reading and public hearing.

51:56Speaker 6

All right. As part of this public hearing, I'm going to go ahead and open up the public hearing for this bill.

52:01Speaker 10

And good evening, Max.

52:03 – 57:40Speaker 10

My name is Carlos Trejo. I'm the Director of Planning and Community Development for the City of Olivet, and tonight I'm here to present Bill 3070, which is a special permit use request for medical offices and clinics at 9375 Dillman Industrial Drive. The next slide will kind of show the location. It's at the corner of Dillman Industrial Drive and Dillman Industrial Court, which is on the lower left-hand corner of the parcel. It's a corner parcel in there. It's about three and a half acres. The building itself, which you see the L shape and the white roof there, is roughly 31,596 square feet. It's a multi-tenant office warehouse. You might be familiar with the The artery is located in there along with the USGS is located in that facility. The proposed use is a medical office and clinics. And since this is light industrial, medical offices and clinics are identified in the permitted uses, but only as a special permit. And that is why SSM Health Cardinal Glennon is here before you. It's own LID, light industrial district, and it is authorized as a special permit use in the LID district. The next slide. Kind of talks about the special permit procedure where we try to facilitate and further our vision and goals with the comprehensive plan, which we hope is reflective of our ordinances in the COO district, but allows us to look at the potential impact, the district itself, the comp plan sites, sustainability, the surrounding impacts, and then the council rights to buffer requires some additional improvements and impose some open stress requirements. and to consider some limitations like in hours and things of that nature. It goes to our planning and community design commission for review and a recommendation, and then a council holds a public hearing and then considers actions via an ordinance. On the next slide, just a couple of things regarding special permit uses. There are some general conditions that are online with our ordinance. Those are that is it listed in the district? Does it further the comprehensive plan? Is it the location, the parcel suitable for the environment, the surroundings, the complimentary. to the surroundings in the neighborhood and the improvements uh did they demonstrate mitigation to any potential spillover effects and then of course it gives the city the authority to grant buffering designate areas for open space limit the set limitations on operations implementation schedules meaning like over time they need to do this and consider adequacy of public services The next slide, we'll get into the nuts and bolts. This is a street view of the building facility. They'll be taking that front corner that you see there. It's approximately, I believe it's a little over 4,500 square feet. We'll get to that specifically in a second. Dealman Industrial Drive is on the right-hand side. Dealman Industrial Court is on the left-hand side. Dealman Industrial Court is just a short street that leads directly to a building that's in the background there. The next slide. This is just the tenant improvement plans that they're proposing that kind of exists in the existing site ground. It is a 4,500 square foot building, I believe. They are, when you look at it in comparison to the overall building, which is about 3,200 feet, 3,200, 32,000 square feet, they're a little bit of around an eighth of the whole building in there. And you can see the corner area that they'll be taking up their space. It's kind of proportioned to the size on the plan. The next slide will identify what are they doing. It's a 4,566-square-foot outpatient physical therapy clinic, a pediatric therapy clinic. The clinic provides multidisciplinary therapy for physical therapy, occupational therapy, and speech therapy at their site. They currently operate in Creve Coeur, and they're relocating to Olivet, which is great. The next slide kind of goes over the commission did review it and a motion to recommend to the council that the council consider and approve authorization of the special permit. They use, of course, the comprehensive plan, our community goals in their review. We look at the principles for economic development and our comprehensive update goals, which is environmental sustainability investment. crime prevention, native plantings, and strategic redevelopment. You can see the checkboxes as we go through in there. To complete those boxes, of course, they are asking for some additional landscaping along the Dealman Industrial Drive component, which is the west side when you enter from the stop sign area, to replace exterior wall-packed lights with those compatible with Chapter 428, meaning that they're cut off facing down, and then to limit the hours of operation from 7.30 AM to 6.30 PM. That's done in collaboration with the petitioner and the concern was because it's a pediatric facility just to make sure that they're not interrupting or throughout the evening or when we have industrial traffic so On the next slide, Mayor, if I can enter a couple of items just for the record. Our 2024 comprehensive plan update, including the five-year economic development plan, the Olivet Municipal Code and zoning map, the staff presentation and memorandum that was presented to the Planning and Community Design Commission, dated July 23rd, 2026, including the petition and supporting plans and documents. Our public hearing notice, this is a public hearing. We were required to post this 15 days prior to tonight. And that was posted in the county in St. Louis County on August 10th, 2026. And you have a list of the properties that were notified. We did 300 feet, which is above and beyond the 185 called by code. And then this presentation before the city council. So Mayor, I'd be glad to answer any specific questions. And then we do have representatives here I'd like to introduce.

57:41Speaker 6

What was their current previously? Who occupied?

57:46Speaker 10

It was an engineering firm, I believe, was the last firm that was there.

57:50 – 58:06Speaker 6

And they're going to be, if you don't mind going back to the overlay of the office, they're going to be doing outpatient training. I guess so patients come in and are seen there, or is the expectation? Because are these cubes? I guess I'm just wondering where that occurs.

58:06 – 58:24Speaker 10

I don't know. It shows the internal layout. I think there's going to be some changes and modifications. I think that's what it looks like right now in there, so they haven't applied. But yes, they do one-on-one therapies with individual clients, pediatrics, of course. And they're probably a question that can be better addressed than I could on the description.

58:24Speaker 6

Before we bring them up, other questions people have for...

58:27 – 58:49Speaker 5

i had the same question yeah i don't have it i had a question on the hours so pediatric means all the way through 18 right so is the city limiting the hours or is that something that ssm is true we talked with ssm about what hours and and there and that was within that range i think they they close at 5 30 something we can check with them again okay okay

58:50 – 59:26Speaker 16

And then I was just curious, I don't see a landscape plan here yet, but want to be clear about the area that this business would be working. Like what part of the parcel they would be working on to improve the landscaping and hopefully get some trees out there and. Native plant, something other than just the turf. And then also curious if there's going to be any signage on that corner there or that little kind of part that pokes out off the corner. If there's any kind of signage that there.

59:26 – 1:01:45Speaker 10

We can go one slide back. On the right-hand side, you'll see Dillman Industrial Drive. That's where we're asking for some additional landscaping to be placed in there with 50% of that being native. The one thing along this corner, both going north, when you're looking at that right road, you are going north to south. On the left, you're going east to west. On both portions of the road, and you can see some of the fiber indications, there's fiber and underground utilities all running through there. Where I have the most excess of right-of-way, believe it or not, is going to be on the western side. This used to be an easement, and that's where I believe, maybe that's why there was no sidewalk or landscaping, In place when the city took over the roads, we took over just a significant portion. A lot of times the parking would have been further back. We would have more area for landscaping and things of that nature. So we're looking here on the right hand side is you can go north to south that they do some. Some additional landscaping in there. Trees, to be careful, probably preference would be more ornamental, but nothing that's going to be deep-rooted because they're going to continue. As a matter of fact, there was markings this morning, again, that somebody's running some type of fiber optics or things of that nature. So it continuously gets torn out, but we'd like to get them more towards the eastern part of that hump, as you see in the grading, in there to kind of hide some of the parking. We didn't look at the north as they're kind of more facing towards olive in there. But again, I know I have a lot of utility stuff that runs underneath and the sidewalk kind of extends more along that area in there. But it could be discussion we can have with the property owner. In terms of signage, no signage has been proposed traditionally. The signage has been on the wall in there. I anticipate that they will continue to do so. I know ImageNet, which is also located on that building at the far left end, which would be the eastern end of the building, does have a monument sign at that back corner. So If they do another one, they have to place it towards the other apron in there. So I don't anticipate anything towards the front.

1:01:45 – 1:02:50Speaker 16

Okay. And my questions are twofold. One, obviously to increase our environmental sustainability and to have plantings along that area as much as possible that not only are good for the environment, but can also provide shade and reduce the heat on that asphalt parking lot. And then the other piece with, Oh, and safety as well, because you're going to have kids in that parking lot. And obviously it's worst case scenario thinking that somebody's going to jump the curb and go over, you know, that's obviously worst case scenario. But any buffer that we can put in there is a good one. And the same concern with safety for signage, just so that when we've got parents who are looking for the facility, that it's clear and we don't have kind of that driving around trying to find it because it is, you know, somewhat tucked down, you back behind there, just so that it's clearly seen and visible for your visitors, for your patients and their families.

1:02:50 – 1:03:25Speaker 10

It's something we can look at and discuss with it. And again, I just want to be clear in terms of the two, on the first component of that, the sustainability aspect, as we're looking at some of the plantings and the native species, the concern would be on the trees being too big in there because of the... because of the utilities that run on that north side. Now, right here where the bench is set, there is more depth, and I think it's the parking stall length, and we can talk with them if that's an area that they could do more of the shade aspect of it, as opposed to the decorative part component of it.

1:03:25Speaker 6

Yeah, and even if it was native bushes or something, that would help. Is the, you know, the

1:03:32Speaker 16

white and orange pole that you can see in the front of the picture, but then also on that right side there. Is that the marking for the fiber optic cable?

1:03:41Speaker 10

One of the companies. I would assume it doesn't represent all of the companies. And then you can see the little square in there represents somebody's vault to get in that space.

1:03:51 – 1:04:04Speaker 16

So is the idea being though that the general location of those lines is approximately on the right side Approximately the same as what we can see in the in the foreground of the image, at least for the ones that are marked.

1:04:04Speaker 10

Yes. Yeah. And unfortunately, they're usually about two feet below. Below grade, which is not much when you kind of think about it.

1:04:13Speaker 6

When we bring the tissue. Ask questions.

1:04:30 – 1:04:44Speaker 17

My name is Laura Masters. I'm a regional director for SSM Health Cardinal Glennon Pediatric Therapy. Thank you for letting us be here today. I'm happy to answer any questions. And I'm Anne Hung. I'm the vice president of operations for the company.

1:04:44 – 1:04:58Speaker 6

Yeah, I think the question we had is just the layout. Patients will be seen in there. Yes. Is it Is it just kind of open like you're counseling so it is cubes or is it actually like a private facility or what kind of things are happening?

1:04:58 – 1:05:13Speaker 17

There'll be an open space like a gym for more like physical therapy. But we will probably have, I mean, I would say seven or eight individual treatment rooms that are more where speech therapists would work with individual therapists.

1:05:14Speaker 6

So this is not necessarily what the layout is.

1:05:15 – 1:05:32Speaker 17

This is what it looks like now. We would do something different with it, where there'd be individual treatment rooms. Again, they're not big, but they're more for speech. The treatment rooms would be around the perimeter, and the gym space would be in the middle.

1:05:32Speaker 6

For actual PT itself. Would it be possible to have...

1:05:38 – 1:05:50Speaker 16

the drawing of how, how you envision this. I think it's just very helpful for us to actually have the drawing in front of us, as opposed to each of our brains kind of thinking what it might look like.

1:05:50 – 1:06:06Speaker 17

I have, I have, we have a clinic that's very similar in size in Ronnie's Plaza. And I have that drawing that I can share with you that we will use that, that kind of design for this space. So I would love to share that with you.

1:06:07Speaker 6

Bring that for the second reading or for Carla.

1:06:11 – 1:06:24Speaker 8

And this is eventually going to go to planning and zoning once, if this is approved. And then they'll have the full sets of drawings and landscape plans and things like that. Is that correct? No.

1:06:25 – 1:06:43Speaker 10

No, it would be more regarding the use and the operations of the use. The improvements would be internal. In there, so that generally that wouldn't go back to the commission for review. There is a code and the number of exits and the use is going to dictate what.

1:06:43Speaker 6

How people deal with it internally is not necessarily our...

1:06:47 – 1:07:00Speaker 10

In terms of landscaping, yes, the commissioner was comfortable with it administratively, you know, as long as they submit some type of landscaping in there and then set the condition of the 50% MEDIS in there gives us the guidance of what they're looking for.

1:07:00Speaker 6

Okay, I understand. And that'd just be helpful to use as an example, just so we can, you know, visualize it. Appreciate it.

1:07:07Speaker 17

Like before the second, you'd like it?

1:07:08 – 1:07:22Speaker 6

If you forward it to Mr. Trejo, he can forward it to us, and then we'll have it for the second. It just helps us. Again, it's your internal, not ours. Right. That's where I was struggling. I'm like, I don't understand. What is it? Hey, I'm like, it's your business.

1:07:23 – 1:07:47Speaker 16

Yeah, thank you. But I do think having that information, I know you have presented this to the PCDC a few months ago, and so the understanding for a landscaping plan has been kind of out there for a little bit. So it would be nice to see some movement towards getting a clearer sense of what that is, as well as what your layout internally is before the second reading.

1:07:48 – 1:08:08Speaker 16

So that we're really clear on what we're approving. And I'm thrilled to like, my hesitancy is not anything about this business or anything. I think it's a good use. I think it's great to have this here and all of it. And I'd like to have a clear sense of what we're approving before we approve it. Sure.

1:08:10Speaker 6

All right. Thank you very much. Thank you. Happy to be here. Thank you. Yeah, just one comment.

1:08:18 – 1:08:54Speaker 4

I'm Drew Clary with Intellica. I work with the landlord on this building. I just had a quick comment question on the the conditions, the landscaping. So Carlos mentioned there's some fiber optic cables that run on the inside or just on the outside of the sidewalk. There's a very similar one just on the other side. You can't see it, but it's right there in front of a manhole. Would it be beneficial at all if we did more landscaping right where that park bench is instead of along the Western barrier?

1:08:56 – 1:09:28Speaker 6

My view is more landscaping anywhere is good. Like as many native or this council is generally, I won't speak for everyone, but it's generally in favor of native plants and beautifying and just adding sustainability. So there's many, many ways to attack that. So I think, yeah, we have to be sensitive to the cabling and not getting in the way of utilities and trees and things like that. So we're not in any way saying, no, no, just trees everywhere. It's what are the best use of native plants, sustainability that are aesthetically looking that are good maintenance, you know, And I think it's just seeing what it would look like.

1:09:28 – 1:10:39Speaker 4

Yeah. And just a couple thoughts on what we were planning on doing to this building. So it's been under a new owner since about October. The building, I don't know if you're driven by it frequently, but it looks very tired on the outside. So the signage is all mismatched. Festive is on that corner. Their sign's about this big, literally. And so we're trying to make the signage consistent, which trying to make it prettier channel cut lettering if available, repaint the exterior of the building. We were welcoming the light improvements. We were planning on doing that anyway. And so I was trying to get to an understanding of is it more beautification or is it more safety barrier now that you have a better understanding of their hours of operation or is it a little bit of both? Because I could probably do more landscaping near the park bench, more in front of the building. I guess what I'm getting at is I want to create the barrier. I want it to be pretty. I don't, I would love to not do too much because we're going to make the building look a lot nicer and I would hate for it to be obfuscated if we have hedges grow too tall, but I'll, you know, That's nice to have, not need to have.

1:10:57Speaker 16

And aesthetics as well. And trees give you the biggest bang for your buck over time.

1:11:05Speaker 4

And low maintenance generally too. It is a triple net building. And so increasing the maintenance cost does get passed back to the tenants. So trying to find that happy medium.

1:11:16 – 1:11:51Speaker 6

Yeah. And I think, again, this is not a dictative. It's just anywhere we can, especially when we're approving new things, we're saying let's continue sustainability goals. I'm less concerned about the safety. It's always a nice thing. at least there is also a ridge up which is nice it's a very large area versus just a curb yeah um but yeah i think we just like to see us continuing to grow and get more sustainable so but to your point you don't want to block the signage you're going to put up either right it's a balance yeah okay i think we're on the same page we'll get you something that has a really good sense of i think of what we're we've had these conversations in multiple forms so um i think he's

1:11:51 – 1:12:41Speaker 4

probably well equipped to advise on that he has been you guys have always been very helpful too so what what color are you going to paint the building that's a good question um and then you're going to paint it looks like there's masonry so right now our thought was just the facade um but it's it's it's a It's barely a thought. Are you familiar with what they did with the Cone Elevator building just a little bit further down? No. It's right next to Stone Fabricators and PK Construction. But if you look at the before and after of what they did, they painted it white and blue accents. It looks incredible. So it's something that would be tasteful and nice and not obnoxious. But if you go... go look at it sometime this week. I mean, it's, it's peeling. It's just, there's a light that's, it just needs to be, it needs to be redone.

1:12:41Speaker 8

So if you can kind of describe what that's going to be, you know, what color, what, what, what you guys decide before the next reading, that would be great too.

1:12:50Speaker 4

Yeah, we'll try and put something together like that along with a landscaping plan.

1:12:55Speaker 6

I could be wrong, but they're not necessarily tied together, right? Because you're talking about the entire building versus just this.

1:13:01 – 1:13:12Speaker 4

Good point. It wasn't a requirement on the P&C. I don't want to stop this. Makes sense. Let's do both. I don't want to encumber that or delay it, but I just wanted to let you know of our plans anyway. Appreciate it. It's good to know.

1:13:12Speaker 6

I appreciate the beautification.

1:13:15Speaker 6

Cool. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Other public comments? No. All right. Anyone online? Anything else from the council?

1:13:27Speaker 6

All right. We will go ahead and close the public hearing then. And then there will be a second reading of this bill on September 8th. Thank you very much for coming. Appreciate it.

1:13:38Speaker 6

All right. Moving on to item 14, bill 3071. I'm going to ask for the title to be read.

1:13:46 – 1:14:06Speaker 13

Bill 3071, an ordinance authorizing a special permit use for New Blueprint Partners LLC, owners of the property grounds addressed as 1220 North Price Road, to permit AIM Field Hockey to operate a 6,614 square foot enclosed recreational use within the tenant space addressed as 1220 North Price Road, Suite 4. First reading in public hearing.

1:14:07Speaker 6

All right. We'll go ahead and open the public hearing as well and get another great presentation.

1:14:11 – 1:21:31Speaker 10

Good evening, Mayor, and just for the record, my name is Carlos Trejo. I'm the Director of Planning and Community Development for the City of Olivet, and tonight here I'm to discuss Bill 3071, which is a special permit request for an enclosed recreational use at 1220 North Price Road, suite number four in that building. That is the same building where we have Padel and Pickle on the northern end, and underneath Padel and Pickle is actually... beauty, auto beauty specialists. I'm sorry, I couldn't think of the name. And then right in the middle, you have a door.com that's located, that kind of wraps. And then this is a little corner piece that I'll show you more specifically in a second. So if you go to the next slide, it is an older building that was built, I believe in the 1960s. I didn't put the date in there, but it's a six acre lot with 134,000 A square foot was considered of office manufacturing warehousing and distilling that took place at 1 time. Now we have a recreational use with pedal and pickle storage with auto beauty specialists, and then some distribution and offices with locked with. lock.com or door.com on the site. There's one more piece of the building that is up for lease and it's roughly about 6,700 square feet. And that's where you see the orange door there at the lower right-hand corner is where they are looking to take a piece of that. It's very oddly configured because over time, As that property was improved, they did it in phases and pieces in there. And of course, it was the old Southern Comfort Distillery that was operating on that site. Property grounds are zoned LID, Light Industrial District, and enclosed recreational uses and outdoor recreational uses are permitted uses in the LID district, but subject to a special permit, meaning they're not industrial, but they can be compatible with with a lot of the industrial users that we have there and of course i know that we have pedal and pickle on the site just to the left of it you had the bridge facility in there and then we used to have the old town and tennis just down the block not too far from where ssm was looking at the next slide We have a procedure for special permit requests. It's a review and recommendation by the commission. They forward that to the council, which holds a public hearing and then has an action via an ordinance, special permit process. We have a procedure that's outlined within our ordinance that looks at the impact to limitations, but always trying to see how we can further our comprehensive plan's goals and updates. And I'm sorry about the lower left hand, that should have been LID district. And on that side, the next slide, we'll kind of talk about general conditions of the special permit. So, what do we do is that we make sure it's listed in the district that are further to go as a comprehensive plan that the location is suitable to the environment and surroundings. Sometimes it could be doing topography, some natural features as a property flat. Is it Hilly or things of nature? Are the improvements complementary to the neighboring uses? Did they demonstrate that they are mitigating any spillover effects that would adversely impact the adjacent properties? And then, of course, the city has the authority to require whether buffering, aesthetic enhancements, designate areas for open space, set limitations on operations, implement a schedule, and that is requiring things to happen over a certain amount of time, and consider adequacy of public services such as fire. medical police type of services. The next slide, we'll get into the nuts and bolts. This is a corner of the building. Again, this is 134,000 square foot building. This is a big building. They're taking this kind of front view here where the orange door is, but not the whole thing. It's just on the left-hand side, the first two components where you see the vertical things right there, and then it kind of L-shapes and goes back. So you actually enter the building from that gap between where the cursor is and to the far left. in there. There's a little cove that's a little bit further back. Thank you, Ms. Eckley, in there where the entrance is. And I'll show you a little bit more when we get into the aerial view. The next slide will kind of show how that is set up. And again, sorry, I'm using white on the white background, but you can see this L-shaped layout kind of laid out onto the 134,000 square foot building. You can see that cove area. In that cove area on the left-hand side is the layout. There's a 606 6,060 square feet of the building footprint for the Ames indoor field hockey practice facility, who is your petitioner. The next slide. What is being proposed, the operations are, it's a 6,600 square foot women's indoor field hockey practice facility. In this facility, the operations will include training, one-on-one coaching, office operations, and then video productions that they use for promoting purposes for the individual athletes for schools and things of that nature. Next slide. As we go through the PCDC, they went and they reviewed it. Again, they have a process to review it in accordance with our ordinance and special permit uses and then also our comprehensive plan. When you look at the economic development and investment, it also has its own specific goals about environmental sustainability, investment, crime prevention, native plantings, and strategic redevelopment. So in their review, the commission motioned that the council consider authorizing the special permit through this ordinance. However, they also laid out the following conditions. One is to limit the hours of operations from 7 a.m. to 8 p.m. How did we get there? Again, that was a discussion with the petitioner of what their operating hours would be in there. To replace the exterior wall pack lights with those that are cut off and facing down, compatible with Chapter 428. To do a tree health assessment and replacement plan with 50% of those being native. There were several trees along the perimeter of the site as itself, differentiating it from the petitioner here. and some of them had been cut down and some of them seemed like they were not as healthy. And then to replace some of the deteriorated fencing sections that were on the south side of the property in there. The next slide, Mayor, if I can just enter a couple of items into the record. One is our 2024 comprehensive plan update, including our five-year economic development plan, the Olivet Municipal Code and Zoning Map, the staff presentation and memorandum presented to the Planning and Community Design Commission, dated July 23rd, 2026, including the petition and supporting plans and documents. The public hearing notice, of course, this is a public hearing. We're required to post this in the county in St. Louis County. It was published on August 10th, 2026. And then you have a list of the properties that were identified or notified regarding that twice. They get a postcard before it goes to the commission. And then they also get a public hearing notice prior to our meeting here at council. And then the presentation before council dated August 25th, 2026. I do have representatives here in attendance, but I'd like to be glad to answer specific questions about the building and the operations.

1:21:32Speaker 6

I have questions mostly for the petitioner. So before we bring them up, anyone have any questions for Mr. Trejo?

1:21:38 – 1:22:03Speaker 5

Yeah, so my daughter actually took lessons at Padilla and Pickles, so I got to see the parking lot when it gets a little bit busier. I just want to make sure that there are enough spots for all the tenants if this goes through, especially if there's a team or a couple of teams practicing, everyone drives in their own cars, could end up with an extra 30 cars. Would that be enough space? And if not, where would the overflow be?

1:22:04 – 1:22:53Speaker 10

Well, good question. If we can go back to the area, I think it's about three. On this side, so you can see there's that center parking in that area, primarily used by door.com, excuse me. And their Padell and Pickle use is part of that. And then they expanded or have the parking facility there on the lower left corner in there. And you see that aisle in there. They've always wanted to expand in that green space, but then that would trigger MSD review and so on. So there's always that caveat that we have available there. But then there's some additional parking on the far right end of the building in there. It's kind of separate and independent, but they also operate this. Yes.

1:22:54Speaker 10

Okay. That area where the cursor is at.

1:22:58Speaker 5

Would that be another entrance or would people have to walk around?

1:23:01 – 1:24:45Speaker 10

They would have to walk around. They're not in the way... In the original building, everything was all within reach. Now that things have been separated, yes, the parking's all kind of disassociated with the spaces. But it's always a good question. I always hear... you know, that's a lot of parking, you know, do they really need all that surface area? And you try to balance that. Do they really have enough parking in there? You know, from a planning perspective, there are, in our code, there are some minimums. We go by minimums in there. They have to have a minimum amount based on the type of activity that takes place. For recreational uses, it's based on square footage. There's a simple calculation that we use to calculate that. For the office, it's based on a similar weight, but then they're in a match and then our code allows us to provide some overlap. So if this use needs as much parking, this use needs as much parking, this use needs as much parking. You can have some overlap that, that some may come in at nights and may come in during the day. And there, so it allows for that process in there to help try to balance it in there. But again, it's, you know, from a professional view, it's like, I, I, I think if people are unhappy with the parking, they're going to go somewhere else to find a better facility that can accommodate them and it impacts the user. And we want to keep these uses viable. We want to keep our residents and the region coming to our location in there. But this is a fine balance as opposed to having over parking. We had the conversation when Murphy Health Systems was looking at the pharmacy and we were asking, can we get rid of parking spaces? Uh, back there and it's tough.

1:24:46Speaker 5

For this area specifically, I just want to make sure people are not parking along the road or something like that. So, but that sounds plenty sufficient. If we have that lot in the back.

1:24:55Speaker 10

But a good question, it's 1 of the things we struggle with and finding that right next right balance.

1:25:02 – 1:26:42Speaker 16

Related to parking, I'm interested in kind of hearing your perspective on the traffic flow on this lot. Just recognizing that it has kind of an unusual. set up with the two entrances, you know, it's not a circle drive, but, you know, kind of coming in from both sides. And then the extended part that I'm assuming when this was more serving an industrial purpose was set up for truck loading and unloading. And I guess I'm just, I'm curious in this parcel recognizing how the uses have shifted um, pretty significantly, um, other than door, perhaps door still uses the larger trucks for, uh, deliveries and loading and unloading. I'm not sure. I'd be curious to know, um, if this current traffic configuration is the best, um, use of that space, um, and or the safest use, recognizing that for field hockey, you'll have parents driving, but my guess is potentially some of the clients will be older kids, young adults who are driving themselves and aren't necessarily known for being the best drivers and trying to make that particular area work in a way that it seems a little, the setup, as it is now, is a little odd for the uses that are being used in those buildings.

1:26:42 – 1:30:05Speaker 10

No, it's a very good question. Inder, a good question just on the timing. on here, and this is why it's a special permit. I mean, we have seen our industrial parks. There's not much industrial going on in those parks anymore. We have seen the road and all that. This used to be all private, so those dock doors all worked in there because they were not under our jurisdiction. uh and in place now we've taken up those spaces in there and these buildings still are industrial buildings trying to be retrofitted for uses that that were or you know that they were not designed or or built and that's why we go through these processes you know this is the third time that i've been here just for this building you know we did that for paddle and pickle we did it for uh auto beauty to expand underneath uh in there and then now we're doing it for the Ames indoor hockey, uh, and they're, you know, I couldn't give you a straight answer of, is this, you know, professionally, is this the ideal parking configuration? No, no, it's not. This is what, what I have to work with and how it's put in place. Uh, things that would, I would be ideal for that parking is to make it more uniform and, and, uh, you know, polygonal or so, but then it triggers things because then you get rid of that green space and then MSD gets involved in all that. And then the cost of trying to retrofit these buildings because it's more difficult in there. I think it's something we have to kind of look over time I'm not aware that there's been any incidents in the spaces, but we only have three of the four tenants in there right now. With Auto Beauty, that's solely storage, and those are moved just kind of back and forth with them. Pedel and Pickle, I know they have their operation. Their times kind of fluctuate over time, and it's just going to be kind of looking at how that mixture works between the two. The only constant is door.com. we know who's there during the regular hours and then when they leave in there. It could be something that we could look at, how are the hours of operating working with that over time, or talk about how do we get more connectivity with some of the other spots in there. Depends on when I go out there, it's full and you can see to the left on the slide, all that parking right there is bridge. in there and it was like when we were going through that we didn't anticipate you know that volume in that place but we've been fortunate that the mix of that building has been you know kind of balances pretty well you don't go there during the bridge time you're going to get pretty good parking if it's during bridge time you know you're you're kind of moving around trying to find a space in there but then they have a similar pattern where the parking wraps around the building and then there's a whole another field on the north side of it. So yeah, I think there's enough spots. It certainly does meet our code. Is it configured perfectly? No, it isn't. But I think we have to see how these buildings kind of transition and how this parking kind of works over time.

1:30:07Speaker 6

What are the current hours for Paddle and Pickle? Do you happen to know?

1:30:12Speaker 10

Not offhand. I believe they do have an early start, like 6 a.m.,

1:30:19Speaker 6

And Paddle and Pickle is where on here with the cursor? Sorry.

1:30:22Speaker 10

Okay. So as you look, yeah, right there.

1:30:26Speaker 5

Thank you. And they do actually use the parking lot that's where that blue truck, blue roof.

1:30:31Speaker 6

Right in that area. Yeah.

1:30:32 – 1:30:45Speaker 5

So that ends up being old parking too. I don't know that it's marked right now, but people just park there in a row and it's pretty organized. Oh, okay. I've seen it many times.

1:30:46Speaker 8

How crowded is it when you've been there?

1:30:50Speaker 5

I think, I mean, from what I've seen, they only take up that wider part of the parking. They don't even end up much on the pavement.

1:30:58Speaker 8

So it sounds like there should be room.

1:31:02Speaker 5

Yeah. I mean, if we have that other parking lot on the far right, that's plenty.

1:31:06Speaker 6

Overflow if needed. Yeah. I imagine it's also five hour times things make a difference.

1:31:12Speaker 8

Because I love this reuse.

1:31:14Speaker 6

Yeah. It's exciting.

1:31:16Speaker 8

To these types of...

1:31:18 – 1:31:31Speaker 6

yeah and it draws people they want to get dinner afterwards they want to do things like that it's great and it's unique to the community right it's it's a great yeah why don't we bring up the petitioner so i just ran questions i'm curious more curiosity questions evening

1:31:38Speaker 15

Thank you guys so much for your time with this in consideration. I'm Lauren Cornthwaite, the founder and director of AIM Field Hockey. I've been at this for 20 years and have a vision for the next step.

1:31:49Speaker 3

I'm Chris Paul now, and I'm a representative for Lauren in the real estate.

1:31:53 – 1:32:08Speaker 6

Great. I was curious, two things, hours only because, again, I feel like it might be different thinking about my son's soccer and the private things. Like, they easily do things until 10 o'clock at night. And so you're comfortable with the hours because it is light and ductile, so we have a little bit of give, so...

1:32:08 – 1:32:29Speaker 15

I am comfortable with the hours. A lot of the, you know, during the day is going to be just office use for, we just have four of us in there. So it's not like a huge, you know, for parking or whatever. And then I am comfortable with the hours. It's going to be a lot of small group and private training and not like loads of teams coming in that space.

1:32:29 – 1:32:41Speaker 6

Okay. That helps. I'm also, I guess I'm surprised to like get your choice, like your field hockey, but You guys don't ever open it up to anything else like futsal or other, you know, trainings. You just, it only dedicates to field hockey.

1:32:41Speaker 15

I mean, this is, again, we've been doing this 20 years and we've just focused on field hockey, but.

1:32:46Speaker 8

Okay. Great. How many players are you training at any one time? Oh, thank you.

1:32:52 – 1:34:27Speaker 3

we'll we'll be looking at doing small group well some will be literally private one-on-one but we'll be looking at doing like eight to twelve kids um training yeah that's right so this is kind of a new concept so it's a little bit unproved lauren's kind of gone out on a limb here because all these indoor practice facility anyone who uses turf they're all fighting over each other for vetta and the different turf areas. So Lauren's still going to utilize those spaces. This will be a complimentary facility for her where she can do smaller group training one-on-one. She does a lot of recruitment videos for college and things like that. So they'll have like a video production room. Um, so it's not totally unknown. I think she knows what she's gone through a heavy business plan. So I think it's going to be a great facility. And honestly, the, um, The previous meeting we went to, they were like, we think you're gonna outgrow this facility and need to go get a bigger facility. So it's a new concept in the indoor space. There's no one else doing it. We're excited about it. We're happy to be in Olivet. This is a great location. The property is well lit and it's a safe neighborhood at night. All the other businesses are in the afternoons. They'll be winding down on their business where she'll be picking up from when kids get out of school until the evening hours. So I think it's complimentary. And then a lot of the parents, when they drop their kids off, they can go support the other businesses in the community or go over to Petal and Pickle and make reservations. And so maybe that helps in the parking standpoint as well.

1:34:27 – 1:34:55Speaker 15

Could I address just your question earlier? Also, we serve like three-year-olds to 18-year-olds, so 90%. of our clients or our parent drivers um we do have some you know the 16 17 18 year olds and i do understand your question with that but it's that's going to be a small percentage i do imagine you do quite well because i can imagine a lot of people that's why i asked about other sports because the recruitment is my son's going through that kind of thing right now it's um

1:34:56 – 1:35:11Speaker 6

A space where you could do that privately and get that and have video. I question, do you plan, maybe you don't cause the size isn't like food. You're not selling food. We're not, no, we don't have like a grill bar or anything like that. I'm thinking like a vet or something like that. Okay. You don't want any part of that.

1:35:11Speaker 15

I don't want to venture into that.

1:35:12Speaker 6

I understand. I just wanted to check. So, all right.

1:35:17 – 1:35:49Speaker 16

Yeah, I think it's a very exciting use. I love to see the building repurposed and especially providing something that's unique and sounds like a really great market to address. My concerns really are more about the building and the kind of weird driving situation that exists. I don't have any concerns about the business other than the potential that you will be more successful and outgrow this space too quickly.

1:35:50 – 1:36:51Speaker 3

So we are in a little bit of a, so when we negotiated this deal on the building, the, there was new buyer coming in for the building, which is the blue point or whatever LLC that's on the agenda for this evening. It is kind of an emergency situation. Lauren got busy in the spring and we burned some time. And then we realized when we went to permits that, We figured pedal and pickle, and it wasn't talked about with the previous landlords on the use that we didn't fit within the light industrial without a special use permit. So now we're in a situation where construction has been delayed. So really what we're trying to achieve is to get this thing off center because it's she's a small business and. She's got time burning on at least right now, and we're confident we can get through this with you guys and make the compromises needed to make sure everyone in the city is happy with the use. But it's kind of like we need, I think what Carlos suggested is that we need to have it as an emergency so we can get a first and second reading. So whatever accommodations.

1:36:53Speaker 3

So we kind of would like to see if we can move this forward this evening, if you guys would be open to that.

1:37:01Speaker 6

Don't know from policy how that works in terms of, because we have to post agendas.

1:37:06 – 1:37:22Speaker 10

Start to review the permanent plans with them. And then that's something we can offer. To move, I'm sorry. To kind of facilitate and start the permit review, the building permit plans before the council authorizes. So it's a risk we take, but it's something.

1:37:22 – 1:37:35Speaker 6

Yeah, and I think it sounds like they're willing to work. So I think that makes sense to start early. We can't authorize until the second reading, but I think that gets you forward versus waiting for the second reading then to do that, right? So it keeps us on track, if that makes sense.

1:37:35Speaker 8

What is the policy? Can we do a first and second reading on one day?

1:37:39Speaker 6

I don't know how we can do that, Ruben.

1:37:41 – 1:38:02Speaker 12

Technically, you can. It was not advertised on the agenda that you were going to vote on it this evening, so that would have been useful. But technically, you need to vote as a council. Someone needs to make a motion to hold the second reading this evening, and then you need to vote on that motion, and then you could then vote on the

1:38:10Speaker 6

Correct. And I guess though, Carlos, does it speed us up that much? Because the plans, how long is it going to take you guys to work through that?

1:38:19Speaker 10

It takes about, right now we're about 15 days out for review comments.

1:38:24 – 1:38:42Speaker 6

Okay. So if you start working with them immediately, it's going to be 15 days anyway. And so to me, it's going to be two weeks before we vote on this again. And so I don't think it's going to change anything anyway. And I'd rather if we didn't need to, if it was going to draft it. But so I think starting as soon as we can on just the review to help them out would be great.

1:38:42 – 1:38:56Speaker 10

That's something we can do without you with or without the commission. The only concern is, and it was my understanding in the past, it sets a precedent. And then they're always asking us, the staff, you know, about... Yeah, I think it's understood.

1:38:56 – 1:39:08Speaker 6

And so we need to be careful on that and not... So recognizing that there's a need to burn and we're really excited about the reuse of the building. So, you know, be open to that. But it's a good call out. Signage? Oh, sorry.

1:39:09Speaker 8

I would be comfortable if we entertained a second rating tonight. How does anybody else feel?

1:39:16Speaker 6

I mean, if it's going to...

1:39:20Speaker 7

If it's going to expedite helping them move forward faster, I'm OK with it. But if it's not going to make any difference, stick to what we're doing now.

1:39:27Speaker 6

Yeah, that's generally I mean, I wouldn't be totally objecting to it, except it does set precedent for us, too. And it doesn't sound like it's going to accelerate at this point.

1:39:37Speaker 8

And I say leave everything the way it is. But it might help Carlos. So he doesn't.

1:39:42 – 1:40:14Speaker 16

Well, it's one of these where one way or the other, we're establishing a tricky precedent. I feel more comfortable with Carlos working with the petitioner on the building permit side of things than making a decision in the middle of a council meeting to adjust our processes that we were not prepped for ahead of time to do something like that. And I think adjusting something like that in In a council meeting at itself, I don't feel comfortable with that.

1:40:17Speaker 6

Yeah, I can only I guess Carlos question for you is, or is it any concerns from you moving forward on your side sooner than later?

1:40:24Speaker 10

No, I mean, they started off with permit plan. So I think they're, they're. They should have. The contractor is here.

1:40:30Speaker 6

I don't want to put you guys in a bind either. If that's something that you guys can't from staff timing or anything like that either.

1:40:37Speaker 10

Correct. But I think we can coordinate and get that first round going.

1:40:41Speaker 6

If you guys are good, we'll have them move forward. That way I think it'll end about the same time either way. And I would agree with Chairman Bertram on that.

1:40:47Speaker 5

So realistically, when would the second reading be? 8th.

1:40:53Speaker 6

And signage for the building? I don't know if we covered that. I apologize. Yes.

1:40:57 – 1:41:11Speaker 3

I would say on the signage, Lauren and I have talked about it. It would go, if you go forward a couple, you can see the orange door. Oh, wrong way. We can put a sign there.

1:41:11Speaker 6

Yeah, you can put a big arrow.

1:41:14Speaker 3

So I think in Lauren, as long as it hasn't changed, her plan was to put AIM above that loading door on that orange panel right there.

1:41:24Speaker 16

But the loading door is not, you're not using that door as an entrance. No. Okay.

1:41:29 – 1:42:27Speaker 3

And just to, so you guys understand this space only accounts for about 2% of the entire building. And, um, The way this space lays out, the entry will be on the other side of that orange door, but directly on the other side of the space. So that'll be the main entry point. You're not going to be entering from the price side. But the way it's laid out in the previous owner, they were basically talking about mothballing that space because it's laid out so inefficiently for really any other use than recreational or special use. So just because it's hard to get into stuff on the right side of this drawing, which used to be a railroaded is really tired space that, you know, frankly, Lauren's spending a lot of money that she's investing into the space herself rather than landlord. And the other space that Lord loading dock comes up and it makes a 93 return. So, I mean, this is really, it's sat for a long time where they almost said, let's just forget about leasing it and move on.

1:42:27 – 1:42:40Speaker 6

So all the more reason, exciting to reuse it and wish you the best of luck. So, yeah. We'll move forward then. Any other questions from council? Does anyone in the public have questions to ask?

1:42:40Speaker 7

I just had one quick one.

1:42:45 – 1:43:04Speaker 4

So I did represent the landlord when we signed this lease. Is there not more of a, or less of a precedent to have a second reading at the council meeting, first reading and second reading than to do the drawings early? Do you guys normally, have you never done the second reading?

1:43:04 – 1:43:38Speaker 6

It's not that we've never done it. My concern is that everything we do, generally we need to give the notice to the public. So they expect what we're voting on, what we're talking about, which is why we can't bring up random topics and discuss them just for a given time. And so it sets that precedent that we could do something and then people get upset that you did something without letting us know. I would have come and spoken. I would have objected. I would have brought something up. Whereas this, while we usually, staff would not usually work with you until it was put forward. we recognize this is going to go forward. So staff working with you now, I think puts us in the exact same spot at the end of the day.

1:43:38 – 1:43:52Speaker 4

Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah, when we signed the lease, we figured, and I actually remembered it at the end, but when we did the paddle and pickle deal, I thought we had a special use permit athletic for the whole building. And it was specific to their use.

1:43:53 – 1:44:12Speaker 6

I want them to get going as soon as possible. We do too, trust me. So I think this will end up, that's why our question of if it's going to be 15 days, if it's going to take that long anyway, we'll approve it in 14 days. Hopefully it's done. We're at the same spot. If that was not the case, I'd be much more willing to entertain at this point. So I appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone online?

1:44:12Speaker 15

You know, the only drawback is that I have been frequenting Paris Baguette ever since discovering this place.

1:44:20Speaker 6

Good with the bag, right? You know, so.

1:44:24Speaker 6

Thank you. All right. Anyone online? Questions? Comments? All right. I will close the public hearing. All right. And then we'll have the second reading on the 8th. Thank you very much.

1:44:36 – 1:44:55Speaker 6

Hey, move on to item 16. Surface transportation we need to block. I will have you read it. How about that? Or do I? Did I miss? Oh, I passed Bill. I apologize. Just kidding. Item 15, Bill 3072. If we can have the title read, please.

1:44:56 – 1:45:17Speaker 13

Bill 3072, an ordinance to amend Section 405.460 condominiums, plats, and additional requirements being part of the subdivision code of the City of Olivet. Chapter 405 subdivision regulations of Title IV land use of the Olivet Municipal Code to allow for both residential and non-residential condominium plats and additional requirements, first reading and public hearing.

1:45:18Speaker 6

All right, we'll open the public hearing on Bill 3072 and presentation, please.

1:45:23 – 1:46:17Speaker 10

Chairman, just for the record, my name is Carlos Trell. I'm the Director of Planning and Community Development with the City of Olivet. And this is a tax amendment, so unlike having a site plan and illustrations, all the pretty pictures. And we're looking to amend our subdivision code, specifically the section referring to condominiums, flats, and additional requirements The next slide will show the specific section and the changes in that is to remove the references to multifamily or anything residential. What this does, it gets us more consistent with the condominium act that you see there, a reference to chapter 448, the revised statutes of Missouri. They kind of say that we really can't hold a distinction in terms of condominiums, whether they're residential or non-residential, that they can be applied to buildings, a building, replace or sell the building in there. I'm hoping I address that correctly. And there we're just getting our code more consistent with the state.

1:46:17Speaker 6

Like most other cities.

1:46:19Speaker 10

That is correct.

1:46:21Speaker 8

Is that also applied to like industrial or office? Yes.

1:46:25Speaker 6

I'm surprised the word condominium doesn't mean living dorms. You learn something new every day.

1:46:35Speaker 16

Is there any with the word subdivision in there? Does that? Does that word imply one thing or another? I'm not sure what a condominium as a building versus a condominium subdivision.

1:46:47 – 1:47:05Speaker 10

it condominium is a form of subdivision. So I think when you go through chapter 405 and go through the definition sections, that's where that term subdivision is representing both the process and then a product of that process too. I think that's what you're trying to address.

1:47:05 – 1:47:20Speaker 6

I feel similar to the word dwelling, but again, I don't care. I trust that this is what the code's going towards and it gets us clear of that. That makes sense. All right. Questions from the council? Anyone in the public online would like to speak to this.

1:47:21Speaker 12

I think there are some items.

1:47:25 – 1:47:59Speaker 10

Our 2024 comprehensive plan update, the municipal code and zoning map, the staff presentation and memorandum to the plan commission dated July 23, 2026. In that presentation, and that is part of your link in your staff memo, there are references to what other communities had in there, what they were all doing, all of them being consistent. This public hearing notice, because this is a public hearing, and it was posted in the county in St. Louis County on August 10th, 2026. And then we did not have a list of addresses. So I'm sorry, I didn't take that off there. And then this presentation before the commission.

1:48:02 – 1:48:13Speaker 6

Any other questions from council? All right. Anyone online? Yep. We will close the public hearing and the second reading will be on September 8th.

1:48:14Speaker 10

Thank you, Mayor.

1:48:15 – 1:48:27Speaker 6

Thank you. All right. Moving on to item 16, surface transportation block grant agreement with Missouri Highways and Transportation Commission for the North Price Phase 1 grant project.

1:48:31 – 1:50:09Speaker 18

Good evening, Mayor and Council Members. Again, Bruce McGregor, Public Works Director. Back in January, work session, we discussed our second application for a surface transportation sub-allocated grant for North Price Road, Section 1 or Phase 1 Old Bonham Road to Del Mar. It's a little over 2,100 linear feet. We had applied the previous year and didn't score high enough, so we made some strategic amendments to our application and basically offloaded some of the engineering work out of the grant as the city responsibility to try to meet a threshold to score more points, which is one of the criteria used when the committee is reviewing the grant applications. So we found out a little bit earlier by looking at the agendas for the commission at East West Gateway that we were on the recommended list. And then a couple of weeks ago, we got a formal notice from MoDOT, from the local projects administrator, that we were on the list for the meeting this week for award approval. and that they recommended to hit the ground running that we present the agreement to council for a pre-authorization to execute the agreement should the board go ahead and do the expected decision this week. I'd be glad to answer any questions about the project, the timing, next steps, what we've already completed, anything like that.

1:50:11Speaker 8

Excited about it.

1:50:12 – 1:50:46Speaker 18

Yeah. They're sleeping. Yeah, and just FYI as well, since Ameren had been so busy there, we've received notice for them that they've done all of the energizing work on the circuits. They may be coming back into town over the next few months, removing some obsolete cable from the runs, but everything is in service for that load balancing or load relief project for the distribution in University City and Ladue. just since it's in that same area that that project is done.

1:50:49Speaker 5

So if we were to get final approval for this, I think this is a question on everyone's mind. When would this project be realistically done?

1:50:56 – 1:53:34Speaker 18

Well, so that's a very fair question. What we have done last year, we had committed to doing the survey. This year, what we had began, we began in last budget year, which is in the spring, was the design work. Our intent is to have what they call an RER, Request for Environmental Review. So that is a submittal that goes to Jefferson City to basically clear any environmental impacts we have. And that might be more than just like hazardous materials, but like native people or some of the socioeconomic impacts along with ecology as well. You know, are we displacing any baths? The biggest unknown we have is right away acquisition. So we have a 40 way right away width. We want to maximize our existing condition of two sidewalks, right? One on either side. We want to have a safe roadway for motorists and for cyclists. And we still want to have that appearance that's, you know, I think feels softer to us, which is a tree lawn. So to accomplish all that and relocate utilities and other things, We need, at minimum, a temporary construction easement for grading from probably all of the property owners along the alignment. So once we start through this process and get the RER submitted, we'll be planning public meetings. We'll be getting the word out, maybe going door to door. Every time I walk around with a vest with the engineer and we're looking at conditions, you know, interested parties come out. So many folks are quite excited about it. But, you know, once you start talking about changing, you know, the side of your house, people, you know, can start to question things. So, um, We always hope that we don't get to condemnation. We've done it before. And on the old Bonham project, I think we submitted the final court documents two or three days before our grant expired, which was almost $2 million for that project. So yeah, We hope we never get there again on there. So that's our biggest unknown. So long story short, we would hope to be doing construction per the schedule in three years. I'm hoping we can be ahead of that. I'm optimistic that our residents will be enthusiastic. We'll have a nice design and we'll be able to start the negotiation sooner in the involvement and, you know, get everybody signed off on.

1:53:35 – 1:54:32Speaker 12

So any type of federal grant or grant run through MoDOT requires the city to do a lot more work and there are a lot more steps that need to be taken than if we were just doing a regular street project. Right. And so that is why it requires a lot more time. Uh, realistically, you know, I would tell people three to four years, give yourself a little, um, leeway because it's not just us that has to do the work. Um, When we do right-of-way acquisition, we do all of that. And then MoDOT has to go through and approve all of that. And we can't get started on the next step till we finish right-of-way. And then plans, MoDOT has to approve all of that. So there's a lot of kind of us doing a lot of work and then waiting on others and then doing a lot of work and waiting on others. So if you want to give your constituents kind of a realistic answer, three to four years.

1:54:32Speaker 6

We have the same concerns of hypothetically a gas line that isn't marked where.

1:54:38 – 1:55:48Speaker 18

And one of the challenges is like what we ran into on the cost share project is. the area team meets once a week. And we aren't privy to the meeting. So they meet, they review, they ask a question. Well, then we have a week to respond. And then they ask another question, and then we have another week to respond. So it's not like we can make these decisions on the fly. And so that's exactly right. And we follow and we do everything by the rules anyway. But we have extreme oversight on right-of-way acquisition following what's called the Uniform Act. It is designed to protect the property owner and make sure that everything is done, everything is properly appraised, every opportunity is given properly. for the owner to review and sign off on, you know, without being coerced. So, I mean, I always feel good that I know we did the right thing. You know, we always appraise everything. Sometimes we get second opinions. We did that on the cost share project because we wanted to make sure it was such a big acquisition that we were doing the right thing and everything was being fair, you know, for oversight.

1:55:49Speaker 12

So to answer your question, are we going to find something unexpected? Yes. And it could be something positive unexpected. It might not be something positive.

1:56:03Speaker 12

I don't know. Could be we need fewer right of way than we thought, right? There will almost always be something unexpected.

1:56:11 – 1:56:37Speaker 7

all right fun times all right any other questions and anyone want to make very exciting uh make a motion to authorize the city manager to execute an stbg agreement with the missouri transportation commission for the north price road phase one project contingent upon final award approval second all right motion made second can we please pull the council

1:56:38Speaker 13

Council Member Jurgel?

1:56:40Speaker 13

Council Member Solomonov?

1:56:42Speaker 13

Council Member Clark? Yes. Chairman Pro Tem Pashaun Hellman? Yes. Mayor Lewis?

1:56:47Speaker 13

Motion is passed.

1:56:48 – 1:57:22Speaker 6

Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Good luck. All right. Item 17, hearing from Citizens Part 2. Does anyone in the audience or online wish to make a comment? looking at one person yeah one person all right we'll move on to item 18 review and acceptance of minutes uh anyone have any corrections or notes to call out on the minutes all right if not i'll take a motion to approve i'd like to make a motion to approve the council minutes from uh august 11th 2026. second all right please pull the council

1:57:24Speaker 13

Council Member Jurgel.

1:57:26Speaker 13

Council Member Solomanov. Yes. Council Member Clark. Yes. Chairman Pro Tem Sean Hellman.

1:57:31Speaker 13

Motion is passed.

1:57:32Speaker 6

All right. Thank you. We'll move on to item 19, City Attorney's Report.

1:57:36Speaker 11

No report this evening.

1:57:37Speaker 6

All right. But we do have a closed session. Yep. Okay. All right. So moving on to item 20, closed session. So can I please get a motion to go into closed session?

1:57:46 – 1:58:11Speaker 7

I'd like to make a motion to go into a closed session pursuant to the revised statutes of the state of Missouri discussion. Client, excuse me, attorney-client privileges communication pursuant to section 610.021 and real estate matters pursuant to section 610.0212. All right, do I hear a second?

1:58:11Speaker 6

Seconded. Please pull the council.

1:58:15Speaker 13

Councilmember Lewis. I'm sorry. This is this is the wrong one. Councilmember Dregale.

1:58:22Speaker 13

Councilmember Solomono. Yes. Councilmember Clark. Yes. Chairman Pro Tem Sean Hellman. Yes. Mayor Lewis.

1:58:27 – 1:58:50Speaker 6

Yes. All right. We will now close this regular session and move into executive perception. All right. We'll call the we'll close the executive session and call the regular session back to order. No major decisions were made at At this point, I'll make a motion to adjourn. And we will adjourn at 9.45 p.m. Thank you.

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