Historic District Commission - Regular Meeting
The Old Lyme Historic District Commission reviewed multiple property applications, discussed town website updates, and planned input for upcoming zoning meetings regarding the historic district.
About this meeting
- Government Body
- Historic District Commission
- Meeting Type
- Historic District Commission
- Location
- Old Lyme, CT
- Meeting Date
- September 14, 2026
Transcript
173 sections
Time is 1 minute past 9 o'clock. Then, let's call for an order. Um, namukku. There are four of us. We have two different names. You are the ones who come alternately, right? Julium.
Churulium, yes.
Then, we need that. Then, we need to become Churulium. Yes, you can give her the right. Today, Julie has the right to represent. Okay, okay. Yes. Do we have the permission to have regular meetings for minutes? Do we have permission to have minutes? Then, do we need a minute?
Any discussion about Minips? There was a dispute. Um, I have written the last name of Churuli wrong. So I will fix it. Okay. Um. You have space if you need it. Then you can see Karoli at Julie's place.
Okay. Yes. Okay. If Karolin arrives, we'll be able to see Karolin in Julia's place. You're a regular guest. She's a substitute. Today we made her a guest. But since you're here, we're going to put it on the table. Okay. Good. Yes. Okay. Do you have any other opinions about the meeting minutes? Approval of the meeting minutes. Everyone agrees. I say, I... Are you against it? Okay. Public opinion. Are we here for public opinion or for specific issues? Okay. The report of the chair. Oh, I have two things. Um Martha just came and said that on October 5, the Selectman Board, which represents Amtrak, will hold a small conference here. And Amtrak and Halloween are very close to a pop-up event. OH is holding pop-up events in different towns in their region. Unfortunately, our summer events like Midsummerfest, as you know, are over. Not even a big city event like Halloween is happening. I don't know where the tent is at that time, but there must be a pop-up tent at Town Hall on that Halloween night. John, we started. Yes, we started. At that time, when I was walking on my car trek, he said my clock was 853. Anyway, sorry. Battery. It's white. Yes, then we are a co-chair report. I think we can do the same for John in the place of Kalli who is in the corner. John. Hi Kalli. Right. Yes. Hi John. Right. So, to hear from John again, Martha came and said on October 5 at the Board of Selection meeting that a presentation will be held on behalf of Amtrak. Yes, then on Halloween night, there will be a pop-up event on Amtrak. Yes, I think it will mostly be around the town hall here. Yes, but I don't know. We'll know more later. Do you know more about Amtrak? Do you know more about Amtrak? That's where I stopped. So, if you want to take it from Amtrak, you can continue. If you don't reach, I can cancel. No, no, you go ahead. Because I like to talk about zoning meetings. So, if you want to cover Amtrak, that would be great. Another thing I would like to report is that we were able to get answers from Martha Schumacher and the Selectmen board about the next relationship. Martha Amtrakil, a representative from Amtrak, accompanied Rassum and asked questions. After that, the comment they sent me earlier said that they will hold a conference on October 5th. I think it is important to get answers from Rekha. Because I doubt that they will be able to include her on October 5th. Another thing is that Rassum and I are planning to meet after this meeting. Katie, are you there? Oh, right. She's changing. But she's there. I think she's unmuted. Yes. We are ready to discuss the problems of Amtrak and a town website. As you know, there are various materials in HEC. There are useful materials. But when we search for them on the municipal website, we only get very little traffic. Then, I participated in the residential program in connection with the zoning reconstruction. I also participated in a meeting with the zoning commission and other commissions. The zoning commission is seeking opinions from other commissions. Moreover, I think that there is a section here for 10 minutes to talk a little more about it. I think it's October 15th. Please forgive me. September 15th. Tomorrow. Tomorrow is the meeting on Halls Road. I think there will be a call from the historic district commission to the zoning commission at 10 o'clock in the morning. Yes. Yes. Tomorrow's meeting is related to general development. Halls Road is a special part of the agenda, but it is related to general development elsewhere in the city. What I and I agreed on was that we had some discussions and two opinions in the meeting. I don't know if that meeting was recorded. I'm sure that's how it is. We know that both residential and commercial skyscrapers in Charithraparamaya district have been sown in the district. There are nearby Vanija skyscrapers ahead of us. We will be there in a minute. So, here is the Secretary's report.
Report. We are still surveying. We are still surveying 20 facilities in Charithraparamaya district. There are two of them. Completely, we took two of them together. So, we are planning to build 20 of them. And, we have a lime street. The CFE and Kalaharan, who are responsible for the rear portion and the back portion, are still working on it. So, we have to build it. And, 36 Lime Street has been completed. And 38 Lime Street is a small house that is being renovated. We have to renovate it in November. When did he complete it? I think it started in 2018. But... I traveled a lot for it, but it feels very beautiful. 46 Lime Street They completed that project. It was called Driveway Propane Tank Installation. Center School Now it seems to be completed. 52 Lime Street Military Memorial Markers are still open. 60 Lime Street and French doors have been completed. 74 Lime Street Driveway Driveway apron has been completed. The house has been completed, but they are still temporarily stopped. Some other things. Therefore, we have a CFA for that. That. There is something new today. Um, then Lime Street from 80 to 1. The Lime Academy of Fine Arts has been opened to the visitors of Gilboroy's old house. It is still open. Um, 84 Lime Street. Oh, the dumpster is over. Um. It is also in today's Skylight agenda. Mary is also here. And then we have 96 Lime Street, Florence Grisselwood Museum on today's agenda. And their driveway CFA will end at the end of November. So let's talk about it in November. And 97 Lime Street was demolished by their Garden Shed CFA. Um, I have also gone. I have sent them two emails, but I have not received them back. So I will contact them again. I don't think they started it. They returned it to a new level, and we accepted it. Um, but now it has been terminated. Then, then, at 100 Lime Street, Ottapan Society Estuary Centre, their inauguration is still going on.
When does it end? It ends on March, 2027.
Okay. Yes. Then, the Hals Road walkway. This is a continuous problem.
They don't have anything. They haven't asked for anything. But we are still tracking what is happening in it. Um, then we have 105 lines of streets, or we are a resin project. I can record where it is. We completed it horizontally. We have some contemporary columns in place. Oh, we have columns for the wedding in the order. Some contemporary lighting will be transferred to the columns in the order. It will take a short time to order. We will continue to accept all the lighting, or you accept it. I will not participate in the voting, but I want to complete it. But yes, we have reached the wedding. I want to say that I am very happy.
It was a dash in the last minute. Yes.
Okay, when I do my job, I can say that this is amazing. Oh, thank you, John.
Yes, it is.
It is a beautiful project.
A new addition, but... Returning to the historical reality of the house is an important thing. Thank you.
We still have interior work to do, but the work in the garden will be a waste. But again, we sowed less grass for the wedding, but the land you built in stone and mud will turn into waste in the springtime. Therefore, we thank all our friends, relatives and Pintu for bringing us to this stage. So, the contractors did a wonderful job. Yes. Oh. We still have 110 Lime Street. That's the drive-away value. It's still on my list.
It's been on your list for a while, but it will come.
Then at the end, it's 34 Lime Street. The edges of the ice cream shop are all the same. That's how they painted it.
They used some wood shingles, and I think it's very new. Then... The places that have been destroyed by all the mines you mentioned, can be removed from the site.
Yes.
Now, is it right to take a few questions along? Yes, I understood that it is part of our happy struggle. There is a big sign with signs. I forgot that number, but Judy Judy Tugger's house. A big sign did not accept it. There are signs in the fire department. Three. Um, I don't know, Martha, the owner of Dodd's house, or the people, or their addresses. Were you connected? Oh, no, yes, I know.
When I was driving... I saw that. Yes, the banner in their door.
Okay, it's been open for a while.
I also wanted to talk about other bus stops. I got in touch with Brendan Gittium from River Valley Transit. He was not able to participate in this meeting. But he will come to the October meetings to discuss. Because they have only put 10 or 12 signs. As far as I can tell, at least a new post has been reduced.
Most of the posts had signs like this, but at least one was missing. I think one post has been installed. And so, I submitted the Varshika Town report. I am still working in the file organization.
Those things are being transferred to the Excel spreadsheet. Which one is complete? And, there is no update on the historical PLAC program. Oh, but we have to talk about the two CFAs being renewed. One for Lime Street and one for 74 Lime Street. Because I put the secretary's report down instead of calling them specifically. That went very quickly.
I'm sorry. Which one is 74?
Seventy-four was a new house. Eric Katan's new house. Yes. Yes. The house itself is finished. Yes, but the village. That's why we don't have to handle it. But the village has been stopped. That's why we have a special CFA for the village. The driveway is finished. That's a special CFA. We don't have to worry about it. That's the village. Then it's the village near the property. She wanted to establish a landscaper hedge, but it was not working well. She was working. She was discussing with the landscapers, because they made a lot of money from her opinion that this situation was not sustainable, and she was trying to act as a master gardener and try to solve that problem. So it continues, but it's all just a CFA. Then, we need a plan to accept the permits for those two cases. Yes, 74 Lime Street and the pool and its hedges. For one Lime Street, the extension of the shed in the back and the small yard there. Yes, we will renew their permits in April.
Sherry.
Apol, avar verunnu, avar verunnu.
Ningal prajiripicha chitrangal. Avar avida nalla jooligal cheithu vinnu kaanichu. Ade, ade, ade, ava manoharam ana. Ade. Sherry. Apol, podhu vaadam keelukkal. Illa. Apol, ningal ipol adhu cheyanu. Namukku kajiyum ennu nyan karudhunnu. Angini aayrikam. Sherry. Apol, namukku aadyam ur lime streetum CFA pudukilum shridhikan paadille. Umm. Everyone has it or we don't. Is it in your pocket or not?
I sent it through email, but I didn't print it for everyone. You understood. Okay, then.
Can you give me a small description again? Okay. Then we can give you an instruction. If you look at it.
That. Then.
This is a small group of children in the back of the house. They are coming to the ground floor. They are fixing it. Instead of wooden fences, they have agreed to build wooden fences. Some of them were in vain. They are building wooden fences. They have avoided this small thing and have built a fence. We had special instructions for the fence. How big it should be, everything. That's when they use it.
Do we have permission to approve the construction of a lime street that we have just described? Yes. We have a second. Second. Second. Any discussion?
Everyone agrees.
Everyone opposes. No opposition. Some. Then we have 74. There is a lime street. The description is divine. Yes. Okay. Okay. Yes.
And this CFA driveway is being built. That is completed. Oh, the floor of the front floor of the flower garden is completed as granite. Oh, the back of the house that is not completed will fall down. Oh, the small plants in the maple next to the maple lane of the house. To screen the needs of the property. So half of this is completed. There are no small plants near the pool and the maple lane of the house. So that's what needs to be improved.
Do we have a promise to approve the 74 Lime Street CFA? Second. Second. Any discussion? Everyone agrees. Yes. Yes. Yes. No. Is the promise passed? Are you voting? No. Then we only have four. So, do you want to vote for Kerala?
Um, I think four of us are four. Okay, no problem.
But you usually have five of us, right? So, you have the right to vote for Debbie instead of Kerala. Debbie is not here, so she is here. That's yours. Do you want me to vote?
Devaayi Devaayi Sherry, vote cheyan nyangal neerathe sajeevam aakyam. Lime Street il CFA No. 1 pudhukunadhinan ningalku vote cheyamo?
Ade, nyanum.
74 Lime Street inde pudhukelum.
Nyan. Sherry, Sherry, Sherry, Sherry.
Sherry. Inni, Public Hearing 96 Lime Street Griswell Museum. Lighting protection. Do you want to come? It's in everyone's pocket. Yes. Thank you for coming today.
Certainly. Thank you.
Do we all want to give a brief description of what lighting protection is?
Definitely. Then, the roof of Florence Griswold's house was reconstructed in 200 degrees. Forgive me. In 2005, the roof of Florence Griswold's house was reconstructed. And so we are thinking that it should be rebuilt. And so we asked the vendors to call on the roof to start our grand process of reconstructing the roof and providing funds. We brought a vendor. He ran a full walkthrough. He ran a drone. All this. He came to us and said, I don't know if you know this or not, but you don't have a mineral grounding in this house. No one in the staff understood us. So we went back to the person who was working there in 2005. He is not working there now. But we connected to him. He didn't remember that we didn't have it. So it was a problem for us. Oh, I didn't mean to say a word. I'm lucky. I want to get rid of it from my life. During the rainy season, we actually had one of the biggest landslides. I hoped that the house would be there in the morning and stayed up all night. Then we brought the North East Lightning Protection. They set up a land grounding in our Craybill Galleries. At that time, the actual museum was not in the house, but they did the museum, and we were happy about it. And when they came out and looked at it, it would be a project with two floors, because we are going to change the ceiling and install it. The full system is not worth it, because they have to tear it down, and some of it cannot be put back. And then he is only going to do the part that we can reuse. Then what they install in the first floor, when the new ceiling is installed, they can tear it down and reuse it later. And then what you see in your pocket is a drawing. But at first glance, their 15-inch sticks and stone sticks are around the four chimneys of the house. I took some pictures and I can show it to you. And as I said, they did our first steps in the Creel Gallery. So this is a picture of the Creel Gallery. You can see a close-up of how it will be. So we expect you not to pay attention to the walls from a distance. Because we don't want to remove it from the beauty of the house. But next to it, it looks like this. So what you see is that the house has four chimneys. And there are two more there. So that's it. They will be at the bottom. The first layer will be there. You can see it. Yes, that's right. Oh my God, that's right. I have more versions of this. The first layer will be protected by about 35 to 65 percent. If the second layer is fully installed, it will be protected by 94 percent. This makes it easier for me to breathe. Since most of the conductors have more ice, we are trying to install the clamp. We understood that the crack in the clamp is more fragile than the aluminum. So, we are looking at the clamp as well. Yes, that's it. Four down cables, eight air terminals, and four ground electrodes are his instructions. And, again, as he said here, this is part of the necessary installation. And, where are we then? Question. Certainly.
Are the light bulbs outside the top of the chimney? No, they are only 15 inches. Is the height of the garden so important?
He felt that it is most important to protect the ground around the chimneys. So that was his opinion about it. We can definitely ask that question after examining it. Did you get a chance to see the National Park Service? I did. We were talking about it. It was interesting. I said that we would get a 6 feet tall person with glasses in those days. I learned a lot from that meeting. Thank you for sending it. Yes.
What I meant was, when they arrived at their offices, they said that they could provide historical information about historical houses, whether they were real or glass globes. They said that they could provide historical information about historical houses, whether they were real or glass globes. They said that they could provide historical information about historical houses, whether they were real or glass globes. It's been done in many historical buildings. Okay. It protects the structure of the building from these big globes.
Okay, okay. Even if it's interesting.
I would like to ask you something. May God bless your name and status. Yes. Of course. Forgive me.
I had to start like that. I'm Beth Linden. I'm the Associate Director of Museum Operations. Of course. I had two questions. One.
I think there should be some kind of fence around the chimney. Can't we put the question line near the street? Will that make it a fence? Or is it possible? And then I think another question is about the routing of all the cables. And will it go down through the roof or will it come down to the side of the fence?
How will that be? Certainly. I will get the answer. In my memory, it will be outside. It will be like a pipe outside the cage. It will be able to hold everything. But you can do it. Is this a pipe like a cable going?
Yes. Yes. Yes. Then, if we add that to the number, will there be a cable going down in each chimney? Is it like a cable in each chimney, or is it like that? Because I see grounding electrical nodes here, but it is a bit difficult to know what it is. Looking at this picture, it seems that if they connect the two ends of the chimney as one cable and then connect it to the bottom, they will connect it. Certainly. Regarding that, Have you given more details and have you decided on the surface? You and us. Haven't you given permission to a surface?
Yes, we haven't reached there yet. We are starting those discussions.
As you have heard, if you use the same material in the same way again, the surface will not pass through this process. But be careful. If you decide to change, give me that time. Oh, I got it. Yes, 4 cables, 8 air terminals, right? 4 ground electrodes. Yes. Then, in the first stage, there will be 4-4 cables at the base, and 2 at each end. I think that the basis of this description would be either 3 by 4 inches or 1 or 1 inch conduit. If I don't think it would have been painted in a way suitable for the house.
If possible, we will try to forget it or forget it. Okay, okay, sure, sure.
So, do we know what the material of the cable covering is? I don't have it, but... It may be like an electrical conduit, but it may also be a plastic conduit.
But I will get it right. Yes.
Have you told him that you were talking to Racine? We previously talked about his wonderful features in his house. Do you know why I had to make it? No, it's great. I like it very much. And he's very fast. Then, yes, historical houses. I will immediately go to the Commission on this matter. Therefore, you want to protect it. Yes. Yes. Then, there are some things you are going to find. I don't know. I think these are the details about how to hide the cables. If you don't do it well, you will be able to go to Swadhinam. At that time, the incident at 15 inches seemed very small. But do you still have a question about my height? Did you want to check whether the question of Um, Beth, and Ed is important? To make sure that it is a fruit tree, should it be as tall or as high as the chimney? I can definitely ask that. Yes, definitely. You said that you don't hear any objections to installing this important tool. Is there any problem? That's my question. Before accepting this, we usually like to pin it. I noticed that your expected start date is the beginning of October. I think we will meet in the 4th or 5th dates of October. That's right. Then, will it be difficult to stop it? No, there is no problem.
Even though we are out of Kodungattu during the summer season, I still think we should do it as soon as possible. But the number is a little low. So wait until the October meeting. You can use all these answers to come back and inform me. Certainly. Yes. I think it's just a matter of cabling.
Yes, certainly. Point about location. It would be good to record, record and test it. Yes. The material for cabling. Yes. I am interested in cheap plastic. Okay. Okay. We are doing the same.
So we are on the same page about it. This is just a painted conduit.
Since cabling is a kind of cable, I imagine it to be a sleeping cable. Do you know what it looks like? This is braided. This is braided. It is not coated. It is not coated. It will come down. Okay. Yes. Can it be opened and closed? I think so. Because it would be better than putting a pipe. But I don't know if painting is practical. That. Is the frequency of it decreasing? I understood. Right. One thing we noticed in our old buildings is that sometimes you have some irregularities in the cables that are not closed. Furniture. That's right. Chempu Vilpatram gives green furniture. Yes. Right. Okay. So, I think that most of the things you need to study, and all of us who are trying to build a museum are following you. If you come back with those topics, we will vote and you will continue. Yes.
Perfect. Okay. Thank you, everyone.
I intend to continue with the public hearing until October 5th. Second, everything is in order. I... Okay.
Thank you very much. Thank you. It was a pleasure to listen to your entire meeting. I think I should come more often to hear what you have to say. Welcome. Okay.
You know my schedule. Hey, 84 Lime Street. Deyavai. This time I will ask. Deyavai, tell me your name and address. That's why, keep that in mind. I'll give you an introduction to CFA.
Yes. So, Jeff and I are both architects. We help the academy in two ways. Last year, we conducted a survey of the library, and a skylight was installed in a new Chandler building built in 2001 by the director of the school, Jordan Soule, artistic director, and other studios in the campus. Yes, it is very simple. Oh, I think it will be glass instead of shingles. There is no change in the profile or pitch of the top bar. But... As you can see, that is the back of the building. That is the back of the building. This is 300 feet from the middle of Lime Street. But of course, the building is in front of Lime Street.
If there is any part of a building within 300 feet, it is a whole building. That's right. That's right.
If color photos are needed to be seen more clearly, I think we have given a large part of the color photos that we need.
I noticed that the profile route is very close to the flush. Flush, flush on the ground, it's right, right, it's not moving out at all. Oh, yes, Installer Advanced Performance Glass. They do all our museums. They are the best. Yes, they are the best people. Yes. And it is a clear glass. There is no coating on it, because it will block the natural daylight for the work done in the studio. Then, if you bring colour photos, if you are interested in walking through them, I can take them out of here.
Photos only.
Yes, the others are with us. Yes. You don't have to give us any of them. Okay, okay. Do we have to be quick or is that better? Give it to Mark. Okay. Thank you. I'm sorry. How many of you said it was the same for other galleries? How many of you?
Weyer Studio, Chandler Studio, Stort Studio, and so on, there are three more galleries. It is part of the 8084 Lime Street building.
They are all completed.
They were all built in the 70s. Yes, yes. In reality, it is much more spectacular than this.
Isn't it? We have a unique thing as the Leimert Association. Isn't it? There are skylights on Lime Street, isn't it? Is the glass you are installing an impact glass or an impact glass? Correct. It should be laminated or tempered glass according to the code. Correct.
What if there is a crack? Correct.
Otherwise, whatever the reason may be, the glass is on top of the head. Then, is the ceiling here asphalt or is it asphalt? Is it in good condition or is it in good condition? That's why I'm not going to change it right away. Otherwise... No, I can make other boxes in the compass that don't say that before. I'm not going to say that. It's something I wanted to say in my lifetime. But... Take it back. Yes, take it back. Yes. Do you have any other questions? We have a promise. That's why, Neenu. We have a minute. Then, any discussion about Skylight. With the permission of everyone who accepts Skylight, please let me know. Me, me, me, this, this. That was easy. Easy. Thank you for coming in. We liked it easy. That's why, I won't disturb you. It's leaving tomorrow. Oh, we can go. Good time. School will start at 28.
Thank you for the kind introduction.
We... It was done earlier. But we didn't make this decision until the end of June. Then we... Then we... Your job meeting was lost in August. Then we... It went well.
But I am very interested in this meeting. You will learn a lot of things in this gallery. You are always welcome. On the way. So, thank you very much. Thank you. Okay.
Take some notes. Share. Okay. Yes. At the end, when we were in the Hals Road Overlay District plan, I thought it would be useful for this next agenda if we change the plans of the stones we submitted. Because there are some points we need there. Plan the construction. Yes, then if there are plans on her side, she can take over. Do you have any plans on your side?
We have four parts. I don't need any of them. But... Okay. Okay. Good. Okay. It works well.
I have written some bullet points for the beginning of this meeting. I would like to share them. Let's continue with the discussion. John, I am working with you to discuss the things we have agreed on. That is important. I think it is important. From the residential meetings, I have understood some of this. Do you know that we have new constitutional laws that promote construction of buildings? And, do you know? Development And, at the same time, we have constitutional laws that protect history and circumstances. I think it is our effort to help the Sowing Commission to find a suitable situation for that. However, If you don't know, up to 2 to 9 units in a Vanija district, a new state law has been introduced that allows for reconstruction of a residential building or to move without much reconstruction. Then, In other words, if there are any aspects of any type of development that are related to a historic district or district, any measures or regulations that help to preserve the historic nature of the district or things should be in the hands of zoning. To put it in another way, NAMPRO has to ensure that not only the construction of vehicles, but also the construction of a historical district for the protection of the district. Therefore, all the historical district laws and laws that we have in place are in place, but they do not include changes or things that have begun to scale. And I think that we should focus not only on our 300 feet of land, but also on the area that is connected to the district and is affected by the district. And we do not have a limit to that. The purpose of the zoning commission is to introduce a system and language that protects the historic district. In the description of this zone, if you want, you can see this cloud that leads to the historic district. We all know what these facilities are, but what are the real problems, not only in the protection of the historic district? The rise of buildings, lighting, lighting, etc. have all begun. Therefore, I think that I held a meeting to understand what will affect the historic district. The changes that occur not only in our coastal areas within the district, Remember that it is in the residential area. So, any residential area in the district is in the zoning reconstruction. But in particular, due to the constitutional law, a close zone is being created in the direction of the historic district along with the Vanija zoning, and if you are interested, it is required in the new zoning ordinance to protect the historic district. That's what I wanted to share. Yes.
How does this new constitutional law affect you, as far as the history of the Vanija Islands is concerned? Does it indicate whether the Vanija Islands are needed or not? It could be. I don't think so. Because I don't think it's the Vanija Islands.
This is a mixed zoning, isn't it?
Or... No, I think these are all different types of residential. The only thing I can remember from the map is the old Lime Inn. That's it. I was thinking about the old Lime Inn. Okay, but that's a trap.
But the varnished buildings on Lime Street. Oh, that's residential, isn't it? Everything is residential. But I think I should investigate it in GIS.
I don't know about the ruins of the old palace in front of the museum. The ice cream shop is a special thing, isn't it?
That is, that. I used to work as a home business as a home business. I don't know if it has met the requirements, but it is a legal requirement. He wanted to stay in a top-level building because of his commitment to business and management. Secondly, I will get an OK from us. Yes, that's why. Historically, John was right about any object that comes directly to the district. It must be old linesmen. There's more. Let's see which cloud is red. There's a C3 Pooja Mess zoning behind the Lime Art Association behind the creek. You can see it in red. If you like it, you can go outside. That's why it's in front of the Florence Museum. Right. Yes. That's why the hall on Down Halls Road is completely varnished. I mean it now. Right. Then, in reality, that cloud is a cloud a little closer to the ferry road. Um, I got it. So, share it. So, this is what I used to be. So, this area is C-30S in red. So, when we take this effort to deliver the language that we expect the Sowning Commission to reflect, do we want to connect with other partners such as the Lyme Art Association or the Florence Wiesel Museum? Do they want to make changes or investigate, or do we want to negotiate with them? I personally feel that this is a fair suggestion. Do you have any wishes?
Pardon me. One more thing, will Lime Art Academy be included in it? Will all the art institutions be there or is it not Lime Art Academy? Oh. I am sure that there is equal opportunity for the Vaniji Foundation to join Lime Art Academy. Yes.
Again, I think that the entire residential area of the Lime Art Academy is residential. I believe this is R15. Again, zoning has been changed completely. Anything can be changed for the building.
They can change anything. So, let me say it again.
The first requirement is a new building law. But, It is a good opportunity not only at the venue, but also in the residential areas. It would be a good opportunity. Do you know how much time it takes for our opinions to be heard? Because we have to bring them immediately. There is no time to think too much about other issues. Okay, I intend to. Tomorrow, the Vanija meeting will take place. After that, they have a workshop. They do that. Then, at any time, they think they will have time. Not only about the sacrifices we made before, now we will be able to talk to them about the sacrifices we made. We held a first meeting. It was a more detailed meeting. I will share the details I shared. I believe they will have something else. I am not sure if it will be a personal or a joint commission. But now our mission is to really think about the possibilities of these opportunities, and to start preparing that language with the information from internal and other organizations. Oh, so when we approach these meetings, we have thought about all aspects. And can anyone go to the meeting tomorrow? I can't. I'm in Mississippi.
I'll try to go. Thank you.
I can. I'm sure I can go out, but it will be difficult. Also, if it's like a pre-meeting, what do you think will happen? A report from the commission. There was a conflict of agreement in the parliament. That is, in the report given to the residential commissions. I doubt that there will be a parliament tomorrow night and that there will be a parliament with all the commissions that will be held tomorrow night. Okay, that's it. I think it happened within a month or two or three weeks. I looked it up online. What I mean is that she posted it online. Therefore, a very important meeting in my view. It's tomorrow. I think there are a few more discussions to go on. But, as you said, reporting. It's reporting. Right. Right. Therefore, it is very convenient to send a letter related to Soningu. And I don't know if we need a special kind of workshop meeting. In other words, we have done it in some cases like this. Do you really know if we need to conduct a special meeting or if we need to test its language? Umm, I'm not against it. But I welcome your comments.
Before the end of the next three weeks, this is for the next episode. Okay.
If you don't have a time limit, that's what you mean. I'll ask you to shoot a draft for the October meeting. It will come very soon. Okay. Then, if you need a special meeting for their church, we can schedule the next one next week. I think that job will be great.
If you can adjust their schedule, I think it will be great tomorrow. But, let me ask you one question. What is the whole thing? What is the timeline?
What is the timeline? What I mean is, if it is a base, we can always organize a special meeting via email. Jump right in. Okay. Okay. And. And keeping that in mind.
And. What do we think are the biggest challenges or the main challenges? And. And. And. And. And.
Uyaravum Kettudu Uyaravum Halls Road
I don't know if the population in the village is affected by the drought. But that's the situation. Right, right, right. Just like the size of the earth in the historic district, Then, I imagine this idea. Do we like the idea of a buffer zone written by the zoning commission about the areas directly adjacent to the historic district? Then, won't there be a higher population in the historic district? Do you want to say it clearly?
That is,
Why can't we say that we want to rebuild the old line? Is it one of the residential classes? That is, business is very important, isn't it?
They don't usually like to do that. But, do you know that it will happen inside the zone?
I think we need special features. I think that's what Art Academy is all about. I think there needs to be a special language in the new zoning regulations. The clouds on Halls Road. Lime Street, Scale, Lighting, Thiruchadi, etc. are special for preserving the historic district. Again, it is not zoning that makes that language popular. It is not sound, it is sound. Yes, that's another thing. Is it a matter of design?
While discussing the overlay, we talked a lot about the design. You may have done different shopping centers or mall plans done by this developer Elko in other parts of the country. You may know that some of them do not look good. I mean, even if they all look good, some of them will look worse than others. So, do we need to talk about the design? Okay. I think how it affects the rural nature.
Okay, I think we have made that thing clear through Halls Road. In other words, you may have a variety of copyright claims that actually contradict the historical nature. Do you know that the Disneyland translation of history is not copyrighted? Yes. John, in your opinion, I think a large colonial building is worse than a small cable landscaped voluntary building. Even so, I don't think we have such a limit outside the district. Also, I'm not sure if the zoning commission wants to talk about the reality. Their business-scale backbath parking lighting sound. Yes, that's right. I think that's right. Right.
It would be valuable to indicate that this is a way to make our wishes come true. Okay.
Okay. Okay, I am happy to prepare the first draft.
Oh, good.
Thank you. I am happy to edit this as well. Good. Then we will do it. From now on, there is no delay between the next meeting. I don't believe that. But if that happens, see you tomorrow night. I will try. Yes, yes, yes. We will prepare a draft that we can present to everyone at the October meeting. When we think about all this, do you know, in the October meeting, please share any details with us that will allow us to approve and submit the zoning commission. Yes. Okay. Thank you, John. HTC meeting.
You have two regs. Pagudi Pinbalathode parayatte. Martha Shoemaker and the veterans had a discussion about the memorial. Um, namukku nirdishta boilerplate ninna aarambikan kajiyumengil. Um, enikki thonannu. Um, nyangal nadabadikramabaramayi valarai nallavarana. This is just my opinion, but there are some places where we can do more things. For example, what does zoning do? If you have always looked at their minutes or participated in a zoning meeting, they will conduct a general hearing, they will continue to finish the general hearing, and if there is any vote, they will have a discussion only with the committee. I think that's one of the benefits of doing so. This is one thing that we would like to reaffirm with the speakers. This is a clear cut-off. After the public hearing was completed, we received a submission from the Veterans Memorial Church. Martha Kaimaria tried to read it in the meeting and give her opinion. If a public hearing had been held, it would have made it more clear to us that it was a cut-off. We will no longer accept opinions. You have been given the opportunity to express your opinions. However, the difficulty of it is often negative. As you know, we are trying to work very hard to show that we are doing the right thing. When we talk to each other, we feel that we are here. On the one hand, there are some things we need to investigate. On the other hand, I think we can still cut off. That is, we could have had that full discussion. We could have continued to vote to end the public-public hearing. But, you know, it, you know, we have a lot of small projects. People want to know the answer immediately. Okay, end the public hearing. It will be a little difficult for them to say that our voting session meeting is one and a half hours late. So, I don't know. But it was a thought that I felt. Um. The other one was a general thought. It may be excessive, it may be unnecessary, but it is clearly seen that we have a right to any of our decisions about the CFA. B. It is not one of the conditions that the Commit Commission believes to be unnecessary. The classic example is a similar example, but it is mostly avoided in the discussion itself. Should I come with an objection? Yes. But when we get into the discussion, I can remember an example that I forgot to mention. We decided, oh, you don't need the letter C. Yes. Therefore, it. Another possible boilerplate. My long-age bullet point list. In a meeting with Um Marthayum, she stated that she is ready to address the HECU's efforts to clarify some issues related to the meaning of town regulation about historical districts and some of our processes. Therefore, what I did in the period from the beginning to the end is to ask you some questions that you may be inclined to submit to the Council. If you haven't looked at it, take a minute and read it. Then I think my goal will be to find your responses to these points. Do you think they should be asked? Can you think about other points that we need to ask? And if you are going to use boilerplate language in your plans, I feel much better when I check the language we suggested to make sure that the council has done it correctly. John, talk.
It was very detailed with different options to start with. You are a wonderful person to think about. I think John did it. I don't have any other personal suggestions. If you want feedback, I think we should get approval or get some kind of response from the town council. I think as a person, we should make more decisions in this way. The commission and the commissioners have worked very well in the past with their personality and experience. I think it is very valuable to everyone. But now we see that there is a need to increase the number of voices. So I think we need to move it forward. Yes. 98% of the time, we need an optional vote to end a general hearing.
Also, that's not a problem. I think that's the way it is. But if the procedure was in place in my next judgment, we would have reached an agreement that would have been helpful. Can you make that process happen right away? I think you mean to say that it's a good thing, right?
I think it's a good thing to say that it's a good thing. I think you can add it. But...
I think you know it's a punishment. It's a punishment. Yes, yes. Then what? Would you like to take a look at this one by one? Would you like to vote on the specific part of the suggestions we are going to make? Or would you like to do everything as a package? Okay, I need an agreement. After that, let's write a set of suggested questions for the next meeting.
I think we should end the general opinion part of the discussion. I don't see any reason, but is it necessary to have the approval and voting of the general hearing properly?
In another way, Beth was here. We ended our discussion. Beth, do you have anything else to add? Let's vote and end a general hearing. Beth can't say anything more. What I meant was, no one else can. We can vote. We don't have to wait until the voting meeting is over. That's what I'm saying. Okay, we can still discuss the problem with one topic. That's right. We have this initiative. But it's for each candidate. But it's... That's right. That's right. On the one hand, we can make it work.
That's right. I think this is a good idea. That's right.
When requests are made, HECs are calculated. Oh, my first. The instruction is to collect the HECs. Also, it would be good if it was written in our language. We all know about them, but as our own internal reference, we should also avoid the prohibitions of the Constitution and the prohibitions of a CFA. But ask the council if there is anything in the laws that should be changed. I have a special interest in the financial crisis. Because we have heard it in many occasions and headlines. Yes. Think about it.
When you think about it, I think it is a really important thing to understand. When I read the statute, we do not have the right to discuss financial difficulties. And this is the same rule as the zoning board of appeals. If there is a difficulty, it is a difficulty in which one's own nature is affected. According to the HEC law, there is a legal aspect to the financial crisis, but it is a crisis caused by the nature of a particular place. Right. In a discussion held online by Michael, Kerry, Rasu and Marti at the Town Council,
What he said was a good example. We are like a hoax. That is, sometimes people don't like what we do. Or they don't think it's right to do it.
One of the reasons they don't like it is that they don't want to spend money and they don't want to spend money. In terms of wealth, I think it's in the lower class. I think that everything you desire about a district of history is financial science. Yes, the resources in the district of history are very high, because the properties are well maintained, the place is not seen as bad, and there are no barriers that we cannot overcome. Yes. But I think it is good to get an explanation about it. I think it is true that the possibilities of thinking about the top of the school's slate will increase exponentially. That's what I was thinking. It is very expensive to get a natural slate.
It doesn't seem different. So we... Those who stand on the street. Yes. You may know, but I don't think we are responsible enough to say that we accept what you want to do as an optional thing. Because it will cost you money, or it will cost you less money, or it will cost you time and effort, time and effort, whatever. Oh, as you know, I have a tree branch. There you have a tree branch.
20 or 20 or 10 years should be good. Oh! If that tree was made with a synthetic material, it would never have to be done again. But a tree is a tree. It is part of the nature of the district. So, there is time. There is time to think about money and those things. Yes.
The last letter of the letter B. Oh, the second letter. It really surprised me. If you are standing on Lime Street, on the public road, on the public road, on the Lieutenant River, if you are doing anything that is not visible, it is not our business, we said. I can see it as much as I can see the historical events of the Baha Vastu Vidya Saveshathas and the Aad Onus. But if you are talking about a historical event of the Baha Vastu Vidya Saveshathas and the Aad Onus, you can say that it is an outbuilding that you cannot see from a general view. I do not see that view in the law. This is a question for us as well. Are we paying attention to the use of materials that are not visible on the public roads, but can actually be seen in districts, and that are visible to the public in districts? That is, people in the district may be interested in this.
Um. Okay. I think that's a question to be asked. I agree. Yes. Um.
Then the last description is that we have our like-for-like limit, that is, if you use the same items, place, height, and height. You don't have to use it. That is also the essence of the town regulation. Also, it would be valuable to double-check whether our like-for-like language is in line with the counsel's judgment on the legal language that has no change in design or shape.
Umm. Are you referring to the difference between the Town Regulation and the Constitution?
No, no. It has been made clear that there is no change in design or form. Yes.
The law is an illegal activity.
I understand.
Design and form do not mean the same thing.
No, it does not refer to material as material. No. ASAC, Sherry, decks or anything else, we haven't allowed. But generally, um. Do you know, someone came with plastic material and photos and stood on the street and looked. I couldn't see that it was different. Um. Sherry.
So, I think it would be good to ask that. Do you have any other questions about B? What will be the next steps, John? You will draw up a draft of what we want to discuss during the council meeting. Yes.
Then we have to talk to Martha to know whether we will pay the town or not. When do we have to do our budget again? Yes, we did it again. That's OAPS.
July 1 to June 30. We have to do that.
Oh, okay. But when do we have to do that next year? Um, usually they need it in December. Okay, then.
We can ask that. It's a question for Martha. If it's us, we need it. Money is needed.
Usually they say, if you only need $500, the Tax Board can accept it. If you want more, they should have a general hearing and town meeting. Yes, that would be more. Yes. Yes. Then, I think item C is very important. Yes. My base. We have made this clear in our memos about the veterans memorial, but the existing town regulations were passed in 1973, so the historic district has been established. The rules of the law have not changed, not even a bit. I think they may have misread the law by making rules. But it is important to see if we are acting under these rules. For example, the rules say that a CFA without a hearing can file a complaint against a husband's employee. And, I think that the work that needs to be done will be done in a way that is not in accordance with the HTC. But, this is very different from the legal language. It is said that the CFA has to be approved by the Commission. A CFA must have a general hearing. And, I think that our goal is to be equal to those who are excluded. And if it's like a like, we're not saying anything. We're saying two. Is that a mark? Mark, yes, mark. Oh, you know, if it's a big project, they may need a building permit. Go ahead and give them a building permit. I think it's not a CFA. The question in my mind. Is it possible for a married employee to operate without us? That's the question. Isn't that right? In other words, isn't that right? Does he have the right to express anything through the Commission or does he have the right to do anything else? That's what I think. One of the questions here is this. I think the reason is that in the last section of the Pound Regulations, there are indirect examinations. I don't think that's one of the things we need to make clear. I don't think she should do that. Yes. One of the things you need to think about.
The third sub-bullet point below the first bullet point, D, is the sub-bullet point. Um. When will there be a deadline for CFE? Certainly, but we have deadlines for other things as well. If a historical achievement is accepted, we will not hear a single word about it. I mean that there are some small opportunities. There are limits to zoning. Let's say it's a small area of a certain size. You can post this on a shop window about credit cards or something like that. Do you know? It's a joke to say that you have to come to accept a historical document sent to you in a special case. Okay. So, If you are thinking well about other dimensions. Another basic question.
Who has the right to make a decision based on the authority of the HSE? Who is right and where does it lie? I think it is necessary to provide a clear description of it. For that, one- Are there only three?
Are there three things that we are discussing now apart from the fact that the HCC has voted unanimously? For that, this is the first. For that, we didn't need this before. Okay. Not in my knowledge. Yes. Um.
Then there is the last bullet point below D. I can think of other things that can be used in rules that are not clear. For example, the first thing to be said is CFA Passive Voice, a CFA. The request must be submitted. This law does not say who. Um, our way is right. It should be given to us, or we should be given the right to demand from a landlord. Um. I think that's important. Reason. If there is a conflict, it ends with a court filing.
It will be the last thing we have ever done in the Constitution. In the Constitution, right? If you have a case that goes as far as that, it is important to have the two parts in it clear from the start. I think it would be Udame and HTC. I think so. It can't be anyone else. Isn't it? That's why. Anyone. Before submitting the application, it must be clear that the law is being passed. It is stated in our handbook, but you do not know that this is just a question. Is that right? If we are reviewing the regulations, why should it not be helpful? Just as in my actions, some people have the right to submit in some areas that represent our establishment, I think it is clear. Then, when we get a CFA, we must agree to it. We must have a legal right to represent that job. Isn't it? Yes, it is. We have to make it clear. Isn't it? I think we did it. The workers have been given alms in the gym graves. But at least next time, we will get a permit from the gym. He has the right to continue with it. We need a lawful path. Yes, yes. A few years after the establishment of our Charitra district, the Constitution had to say that there should be restrictions on the Charitra district. A survey file of the entire Charitra district was to be done, including the entire property. Therefore, Even after 1975 or anything else, you will not be in a situation where you are in a historic district. Or, if you are in a historic district, where did you get the status that you have power over the entire district? I believe that this is based on a guide from one of his historical districts, which was prepared years ago. But it is again illegal, because you are expected to never have this problem. Because the historical districts that have been built since 1975 are like that. And there are other things that we want to make clear. And then I can make a draft speech for the opinion. If you feel anything, let me know. Or I can move forward. That's fine. Okay.
35 minutes after 10 o'clock in the morning.
Yes. John, if we can go back to the business where we have changed the political directions and something new is happening, it will bring us back to the schedule. Or, if you agree to it, if you don't see a newspaper being published. Or if you want to do a small thing, I... Let me introduce it quickly.
I have a question. Martha, did we post the new signage and marketing instructions?
Yes. Okay. Then they are ready. Um. Have you heard anything from anyone? Who arranged a meeting to discuss your debit? Oh.
To discuss real estate bonds. Yes.
Deb wants to remind us that October October is coming. But we were going to have a meeting with Mary. Yes, I didn't hear anything. I'll contact her.
Yes, why didn't you contact her? She has a memory loss and she has a fever.
I would like to reach an agreement on some contemporary issues. The last meeting's ordinances are ordinances that are able to give political directions. These are only the directions for the district. If you are not interested in doing this today, please read this and let me know your opinions before the next meeting. Yes, I really don't like it. As you know, it took us a lot of time to get the signage directions. I expect it to be very easy. But now, I want to avoid it. As you know, we are talking about the next meeting. If there are further instructions, the instructions for the next meeting will be lost. But John, as a general entrepreneur, you know, we don't have to write in stone. But if our regular tasks are completed, if we can choose one thing instead of trying to do a lot of things at the same time in each meeting, I think that's very good. Today we had a very productive discussion.
I agree. Okay.
If we can move forward because I know that we have to go to Karolin, I wanted to make sure that there is someone in the business where something new is going on, and that there were any things that we had not planned in this regard. We talked about Amtrak, and we are still working on lighting directions and website reconstruction. Do you have any comments, Julie?
I think my suggestion is Julie's. I'll sit down now.
We should try to make it visible to the public. Because it has two sides. How should the website be? What should the text say in particular?
So, one of the things we are waiting for is to complete the signage process suggestions, along with some other things. For example, we need to look for a policy change within the next two months. I think what we have is what we need. I think so too. One day, she and I will agree on something. One thing I would like to point out is that we are going to a meeting about Katie Carton.
Katie Carton is helping us to collect the information we posted and to combine it with a town-wide website about the Amtrak ship. Then we can easily do it. Our page has a link to Poundwide. Once it happens, it will be great. I got a chance to download a Certificate of Opportunity. Yes. The HTC site and building department of Timetown website and Tamil got me a runaround. I have never found a place where I can download the CFA. Yes. Isn't that Munkooti?
Oh. I haven't checked it. Martha, you have to check it. Um.
On the blue bar on the left, on our page on the left, it is at the top. It says to click here as CFA. It says to review the CFA game. If you click on it, you will reach another screen that says, here we go. But I will check it twice. There may be links to the CFA formula in some texts. Some of them may have clicked on that formula. Some of them may not have clicked on it. Yes.
I will check the website of the building department and see if they have a link or not. Yes, you should do that. Yes, thank you. Yes, when I look at a website, when I try to find something, I like to see things as a bulletin. You know, here, here, here, because I don't want to read a lot of text. No, I need to study.
Yes, I want to pay. Or you can go to the court and request the CFA of the historic district commission. It won't come. Yes, yes, okay, okay, we can arrange that. Okay.
And a letter to submit. Second. Second. Is everything okay?
Three. The meeting is postponed. Thank you.
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