Remarks by Rick Bertrand
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That takes a week, that's what I'm saying. So right now, if I was to propose to support the cap and replace, I'm proposing the at-cost permitting process, yearly, annual, and review of 650. So 1,500 was a little crazy, so we dialed it back to try to match up the costs. So I'm proposing that you guys find where it fits in and then bring it back to us.
annual per sign. Not based upon size, not based upon square footage, just flat. It's no different than we do in other aspects of the city.
Just a general inspection. Right? Yeah. And that's, if we're going to cap and replace, then these are going to be our permanent structures and this is going to be our, then we should have an annual and we should have a, you know, just like we do for other businesses.
I'd like to propose that staff figures out what part of the code you want to slide that in and do a general review and permitting on an annual basis. I'm just basing it upon cap and replace too. I would support it with that.
My guess is we're going to have a little more people in here next week again. That'd be my guess.
And they're 100% for the cap in place. So a lot more going on here than just fees and...
Again... You know, I'm playing a little politics here, too. I mean, you see what I'm doing with this. It's like, if you want the cap in place, you're closing down the industry. I also appreciate what Julie's trying to say by the viaduct and trying to protect integrity. But I also think that if you're going to shut down and create a complete monopoly... Then you completely shut down the revenue side of it for the city. That's right. So I agree. These fees could go to block to block and for downtown. You can put them anywhere. You're buying out old signs, whatever you want to do. So there's a…
Good news is we get to do this all again with Bob here.
So let me ask you this, and I don't know this answer. I don't know this answer. So if a billboard right now, Paul tries to put a billboard up, and he goes to the permit process, does that individual board come to the council? It doesn't, does it?
Yes. But currently right now, if you're going to put a board up, because the question I always get is how do they get the big ones up there on 75 that are intertwined with all the power lines and all that stuff? It's like, how did that happen?
And so that's the question. So we're redoing the criteria, which is good, smart. But do the boards... I mean, maybe this is something as simple as maybe moving forward, every board has to come in front of the council. It sounds crazy, but...
I don't like a site plan. I don't like that. I just like that, you know, I mean... But effectively, it's just site call. I know, but you know where this is going to go. But, you know, you got to get in and, you know, but I'm saying is it... Maybe it's something as simple as that. I mean, let's talk about it. Yeah, it's coming back.
Yeah, the cell towers. Those all came in front of the council individually, right?
You know what? I can withdraw it. I was going to say you're going to wait for Bob. I don't care. You know what? I totally get it. There's a bigger discussion there.
Can I ask for direction from you guys to do the legwork on it and prepare it?
It doesn't mean I know it's going to cost us a week, but even if you just prepare where it would fit into this and if it would fit into it and do your legalese on it.
No, I'm just asking some clarity. Where you're going with this is what you want. What do I want? That's all I'm asking.
But I asked her, where is she going? What does she think she wants is what I asked.
So what do you want? What would you like? What do you want? I'm just curious. What do you want?
We all do. You're up here. You're drawing our attention, which is good. But don't make it that we're not responding. We're just listening.
I haven't had a nasty phone call coming up on three weeks and I just jinxed myself. I know that I just jinxed it, but it's actually been the reverse. I probably got three or four really good calls from great. That's good. Any faces that are and not just through your department, but I was going to save this for for Council comments, but I'll save it now is. even like the fire marshal with ASAP and those guys, you know, they'll reach out and I'll say, you know, like on the turnaround, stuff like that. In years past, I think we were pretty rigid and pretty kind of abrasive almost. And I can say…
Briefly, as always. First, I want to thank Tom Pingel. We had a nice meeting with a long outstanding issue. He talked to you about that with a developer and I thought we cleared up a lot of stuff with him to the point where he actually walked out smiling. I just want to thank him and his professionalism. Tom is an A player and when you talk about you know, who needs to stay and who needs to go. Tom's a guy that needs to stay. And I want to make sure that he knows that, that he's appreciated and he's an A player. Second, we talked about bringing in Patrick, talking about snow. Snow's on the…
So we're just waiting for that. So we said we're waiting for foliage and the trees have not been convinced yet that fall is here. But I just want to keep that front of mind that the state is going to or the county is going to generously jump in with us to clean that up. And I want to stay on there.
Yeah and then also the last last but not least I too Craig attended that that meeting on Mount Zion in the warming shelter and all the key leaders I probably attended it for their different reasons simply because I didn't want to get butchered that I didn't go so I did go and I took it in and it was very refreshing to hear all of the progress that's happening in the community in the last three or four months but I think it's sometimes it's a little rich when you sit in those meetings And they talk about all the progress and the statistics in the last four or five months. But let's be real…
I don't really have a problem with the capital in place except the fact that we can't grow from a revenue standpoint. So I agree. I applaud Julie's passion for trying to protect our skyline because she's passionate about it. I get it. I mean, it's a big deal. The question I have is then walk me through the memo that we got on, I've been proposing a permit fee. Walk us through, Nicole, why it's a good or a bad idea.