Remarks by Luis Prieto y Muñoz
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“I don't think we took a vote. I think we just agreed. We were told that no vote was needed, but I think the idea was let's do July and then we'll see where we are.”
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“Okay. Maybe, I don't know if, for sunshine reasons, we cannot contact him, but maybe could somebody reach out and see if he just...”
“Understood. I noticed that under our procedures, There is a specific section on this that states that a member who's missed three consecutive meetings is automatically removed, although I don't think there is a mechanism for that.”
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“Okay, that sounds great. I will be gone until the 15th of August, so if it could be after the 15th, that would be tremendous.”
“You know what, I second that, Jordan. And bring your paint with you. And can we do it at noon, maybe, or one o'clock? Great, perfect.”
“I think it's in your purview as a board member to request to go visit them. I'm just saying.”
“There's a profound difference between equity in a house and the liquidity to be able to purchase a roof. I don't disagree with you.”
“That's a great point. And I will, I was going to say to you, Bob, that I, we have dealt with at least a dozen shingle roof issues on this board, at least during my tenure. In many instances, it's a developer who was halfway through the project before they realized it, and then they were just trying to get it pushed through. And in every instance, we've rejected those shingle roofs, and we've demanded it. Or in many instances, there's a spec house person, or there's a person who's just flipping the property, and they're trying to gain the system. There are a few instances where there's been…”
“Well, that's my view. And I, but I appreciate where you're coming from, Bob. I think you have a valid point with that and that we should be more consistent.”
“No, no, out of curiosity. Like, you know that neighborhood's super wall-bottomed. You voted no.”
“Hold on, hold on. This is not rhetorical, Bob. This is a legit line of questioning because you know Palm Grove better than anybody I know. I know what I was doing. So, Bob, this lady... came to us today um yeah this was not after the fact right she came here saying i want i need a shingle roof i can't afford a clay tile roof just simple question do you doubt her financial hardship no but i doubt the fellow that she brought here because he this is now the third roof he's put on in that neighborhood so he he's come before this board three times now Yeah, but I don't believe that, I mean, the…”
“Yeah, and look, if he comes here with a spec house and he says, you know, the roof trusses can't hold clay tiles, I have no interest in, you know, I don't buy that one.”
“Bob Powers would not have granted you financial hardship.”
“Is our quorum four or five? Five. We are no longer in quorum. Yes, we are, because you have hit me there.”
“All in favor? Aye. All right, see you all in July.”
“I think you need to keep this as close to the original as possible.”
“Your turn. It's a lot of agenda left, so I will not belabor this with reflective comments. I agree with everything that's been said on this board. I'll be very, very brief here, but I think ultimately it's very important. Details matter profoundly in historic districts. That's what differentiates pastiche from authenticity. And I think what you're hearing here tonight is a very coherent collection of feedback that's helping you add to your neighborhood rather than detract from it. You made a point that these are some of the most expensive neighborhoods in Miami. And a big reason for that is…”
“Well, I will say I'm delighted that you guys didn't, and I'm glad you went through the process. And I realize it's painful, but it's appreciated. And I think don't take the vitriol in the wrong way. The goal here, I think, is for everybody to arrive at the same conclusion, which is for you to get the house you like, but also for it not to damage the historical fabric of your neighborhood.”
“Yeah, that's clear. No further comments. Mr. Chair.”
“I can take a stab at emotion, but I would be profoundly grateful to my architecturally minded colleagues to capture some of the feedback that may not be captured in the 14 conditions written by staff should they deviate from what they're seeing. Gentlemen. No, no, I'm asking if you guys have further comments.”
“Oh, no, no, I haven't. And we'll correct you as you go along. There was a lot of feedback, and I would rather not try to distill your learned comments. Maybe you could start.”
“I would rather do it the other way around. I think it would be a little bit more coherent. Bob, what was important to you?”
“Okay, but that is what's already by staff.”