Planning & Zoning Board - Regular Meeting

All right, this is a Planning and Zoning Board meeting for May 19th, 2026. I will call to order, and we will start with the Pledge of Allegiance. Do roll call.

All right. We have, I want to introduce first Jennifer. She is our new alternate member. So Jennifer, you can participate tonight since we're short one right now. And then Ed Kulikowski.

I've been here.

Nancy Ross. Michael Elliott. Matt Sutton. And Jennifer Attire.

Thank you.

We're all here. uh we will open public forum if there's anyone that wishes to come up and speak if they go to the podium name and address please all right we will close public forum and approval of minutes do i have a motion to approve the minutes of april 21st 2026. All those in favor? Aye. We will go to new business. So item one on the new business, small-scale future land use amendment and rezoning for 2253 Bayline Road. So Taylor with Wade Trim will start that presentation with you.

Thank you.

Is it on? Oh, that's a lot better.

It's nice to present this to you here tonight. So going over the items first, we'll go over the property itself. The subject site of 2253 Bayline Road is an approximately just under 13 acre parcel of land that is zoned and contains a future land use classification of agricultural while also being located within the town's neighborhood general design district. Is the site location map and just in relation, you can see the whole island subdivision is directly to the east and that you can see the site they're outlined in pink. And this contains the existing future land use map and zoning map for the property, both of which are agricultural. And you can see, while some of those properties are located in the unincorporated Orange County, the uncolored parcels, you can see surrounding are similar patterns of low density residential land use in addition to a bit of preservation and conservation closer to the water. Next slide. the requested action brought before you tonight is actually two separate items the first of which is a small scale future land use map amendment in order to change the property's classification from agricultural to low density residential the second portion of this single item is the rezoning of the subject property the companion rezoning which would take it from agricultural to our one a single family residential the reason for the two of these things, and it is important to note that that this. Art is not subject to review tonight or state statutes, this would be handled administratively by an administration. But this would be to facilitate the subdivision of the parent site into five distinct parcels of land. If we go to the next slide, you can take a quick look at that. Here is the proposed breakup of the property. You can see five distinct parcels of land outlined with the numbers. Something also important to note, which I've highlighted, And this was worked out in tandem with the town's public works department, you can see and see it very well, but you see the dashed line that indicates that there will or would I should say. As part of the subdivision a dedicated 15 foot utilities minute which the intended purpose would provide a link or future water line serve the Northwest area of the town of. slide please. So going into the actual analysis of the rezoning and future land use map amendment. So based on the lot count, the existing lot count and what the proposed future land use map classification and zoning district would permit in terms of density and use types, the site is expected to go from or to generate trips comparable to four additional single family homes relative to where it's at now. There is currently a single family home on the property, which and I'll let the applicant speak after we're done with my presentation. The intention is to divide four more lots to allow for the construction of four additional single family homes. For the traffic numbers by the Institute of Transportation Engineers, the 11th edition of the manual, The peak hour trips from this as one could expect would is expected to go from one to five and increase in relative for trips which. Based on the surrounding density of the immediate in the immediate vicinity and the capacity of those really networks, we do not anticipate this resulting and any significant deleterious impacts to the existing roadway now next slide please. through quickly facilities and services in terms of potable water and wastewater either through being provided by the town or through interlocal agreements we don't anticipate any issues with the addition of four properties to this site i already mentioned the utility has been intended to serve as a connection point for the town's water service um schools will be sub the um the prod upon future development because i should mention also as the proposed subdivision there's no development proposed as of now this is simply a carving up of the actual parcel boundaries itself if and when it does come through for development it would be required to or be subject to school conspiracy with orange county

and any applicable impact fees that go with that.

Lastly, perhaps most importantly, environmental-wise, like I said, no development proposed, but there is a significant portion of the western part of the property that is dedicated to wetland, but that would be proposed to be untouched as part of any future development of the site, and of course, all required environmental permits and mitigation that would be needed to be attained would be verified through the town's permitting process.

Next slide, please.

And lastly, going into the actual comprehensive plan and land development code language. Staff does find the proposal consistent with the surrounding development and land use patterns given the pattern of development in that area of town. And mentioned earlier that it's located in the neighborhood general design district, which the intent and purpose of this district is to really support detached residential homes on larger lots. near neighborhoods in the town Center as you saw from the site plan proposal would. subdivide the property to pretty significantly large parcels of land which would inherently lower the density which also ties into the next point of both the low density residential future land use classification and the r1a zoning district both are intended and permit single family development lower densities and prohibiting multi-tenant City Council Chambers, With all that in mind and considered staff to recommend that the funding and zoning board transmit a recommendation of approval for both the future land use map amendment and the rezoning. City Council Chambers, To amend the town's future land use from agriculture to low density and to approve the rezoning from agricultural a single family residential for the property at 225 2253 Bay line right what. And just going into the next steps, just one more reminder, the subdivision would be administratively approved by the town manager, moving forward from here tonight we do have the first reading of the two ordinances scheduled to go before the town commission for first reading next tuesday on may 26th and the second reading before the town commission on june 9th that is all from the applicant's side um sorry that is all from staff's side the applicant is also here to answer any questions and provide any additional back That's my presentation. Thank you.

Thank you. So the applicant can speak now, or do we go first?

Yes, you can have the applicant speak, and then you guys can comment, and then we'll open it to the public.

Applicant, you can just state your name and address for the record.

Good evening. My name is Floriano Putina, and I'm at 2253 Bayline Road. Thank you for hearing this. This piece of property, we've owned it since 2011. Most of you know Farm 9. That's our business. That's where the impetus was, and so we grow flowers there. The general purpose of subdividing this is really we have seven kids. That's where the so we've always thought that it would be beneficial to have potential property for them one day to be able to live near us so that is the general consensus that we would like at some point obviously not soon because they're still married and so um and and at the same time we're very um we do not want the town of oakland to just have you know tons and tons of homes and by doing this almost guarantees that that 13 acres is going to max out at five homes going through this process it is very unlikely next you know 10 15 20 years if four more homes get built on that that someone's gonna buy all that and then bulldoze it and build three three and a half homes per acre so um that's kind of our thought uh behind it and uh i'm happy to take any questions

All right, any questions?

Yes, I have some questions.

Out of your 13 acres, a lot of it is wetland. How much actual billable area is there? It looks like at least a third of it, perhaps more than a third is wetland.

Correct. So the portion that is affected by the wetlands is parcel two and parcel three. Parcel three is the property that I currently live on and that will remain unchanged. So obviously we're not building anything on the wetlands on parcel three and the entire, uh, about a third of the Western portion of parcel two is affected by wetlands one, four and five are not.

Okay. So, so how, uh, what is the billable lot size then considering the loss to the wetlands?

So parcel two, the buildable lot size is right at around one acre.

Okay, and the other remaining lots, one, four, and five, are they?

Those are not in wet.

Right, but what is their size?

I'm sorry. It's about three-quarters of an acre for one, a third of an acre for number four, and parcel five is one acre. One kid you don't like as much as the other? Well, you know, they've got to duke it out.

So quick question, you live on the third, correct? You live on, I can hear you, parcel number three, but isn't there another home near your home on that same property or no?

No ma'am, there's only one home on that property.

been there there there is a home so if you look at five if you go south of five um michelle lives there and that's a totally separate yeah there looks like there's a driveway yeah right there i just knew there was something else yeah and i just want to make a comment you and your family nisa have contributed so much to this town i'm just really happy you all are making an effort to do this which we're

There's no variances or anything in this application? Everything is?

We did. We did a preliminary review of this before it came to you as the Planning and Zoning Board. So we verified that all the lots met the minimum requirements of the town's code and the design districts. We established the easement, established the wetland line. So at this point, there's no variances that would be needed in order for this to be carried out.

Keep it clean for them for even the future. All right.

Thank you.

Any other questions from the board? All right. Those questions then open to the public. Anybody in the public want to speak? State your name and your address, please. Yeah.

My name is Kelly Zanini. I live at 1354 Southern Sun Drive in Whole Island. So we love Farm 9. First of all, he's part of our community. Our biggest concern is obviously the value of our homes. And so our just biggest concern is there any type of square footage, like that there's a minimum because our homes are, range anywhere from 1,800 to 5,000 square feet. So we just wanted to make sure that there's some kind of guidelines that we're not building really tiny homes in our neighborhood. So that was the biggest thing. Obviously, we have a really good relationship with Farm 9 and support the prairie house and everything down there. But we do are concerned about our property values. It's minimal, obviously cars, his children already drive on the road. So that's not any concern to us. It's just making sure that the property values are considerably consider very was the word I'm looking for that are comparable to what's already being in the neighborhood, because he would be continuing to be part of our neighborhood.

Sure.

I think that's an excellent point. I think what I would be more concerned about from my perspective is that we couldn't build some, because I think there's a limit on how big the homes can be built. So that would be I think if anything, we would probably get close to the upper limit on what, and then I also understand the town of Oakland has very specific building requirements and sizes, which we would have to abide by.

Yeah, that's what I was just going to confirm. I believe we do have all the square footages and that are minimums.

Yeah, so not used to this one. I'm sorry. So, yes, the design districts particularly don't give total or minimum square footages, I should say, but they do regulate the minimum width and depth of a lot. So just as an example for this particular design district, the minimum for any property would need to be a minimum of 70 feet wide and 125 feet in depth. And all of those lots meet this. And like Flora said, there are every single home that would need to be built there would follow the same standards townwide and does have a minimum size that it would need to meet. So, for example, it wouldn't be permitted to build a tiny home because there is a width that has to be met.

The other public Sir if you could address your comments to the board

Really oh okay I got two kids and my kids are grown and but they live four miles apart, they don't you know they love each other, but they don't want to live in the same parcel land. So my i'm worried about like are you going to build these five homes like you know, within the future, or are you going to let your kids decide if they want to build a final home. So is there a chance that 1020 years from now, there won't be no homes just the House on number three i'm saying that number three zone, the other ones don't have anything. Then my other concern is okay, you say there's wetland in the west side so there's no way that that trailer park there's no way that can cut across the only entrance to those five homes is going to be from Bayline. That's all i'm just worried about you know when is the construction is going to be for those five homes, if in any. You know I mean like I said kids don't I mean they love each other siblings but they don't all don't want to live near each other either. I mean, is it really necessary to change this to our one? That's all.

Thank you. Any other comments from the public?

No?

Closed public comments then? Any other comments? Anyone want to make a motion?

Just to let the board know, the board needs to first make a motion to either approve or deny the future land use map amendment or making a motion on the associated rezoning. So that would be the first motion that would be required. The rezoning, of course, is contingent on the COMP plan future land use map being consistent with it.

Okay, so I'll move that we approve the future land use amendment, changing the classification from agricultural to low-density residential.

All those in favor? Aye. That passes. Second one?

I'll make a motion that we recommend rezoning, which is a recommendation to the commission, correct?

Yes, both items are recommendations to the town commission.

Right, so I move that we recommend the rezoning of the property from agricultural A1 to single-family residential R1-A.

Second.

Okay, all those in favor?

Aye. Thank you all. All right. Item two on the agenda is the Tubbs Street, Oakland Avenue Overlay District Comprehensive Plan Amendment. I understand Katie with Dick's height is going to present.

Good start.

All right. Are we good? Can you hear me? So we're Hello, members of the planning and zoning board. My name is Katie Magruder. And I'm with Dick's height and partners. I'm here today. I'm joined by Emily Thomas from Kimley horn. And I'm here to talk to you about transforming tub street into a main street. The project boundary, sorry, this is going to be interesting because I'm scrolling. Okay, the project boundary extends one block east and west of Tubb Street from Colonial Drive at the southernmost point to the West Orange Trail at the northern edge. The core purpose is to re-envision this corridor as the heart of Oakland, a living room for the town where daily life unfolds at a human pace. From a design standpoint, we seek comfort first, widening sidewalks, layering in shade with trees and structures, and shaping a streetscape that invites people to linger rather than hurry along. We imagine a street that nurtures local enterprise, small businesses that gently spill into the public realm through outdoor dining and sidewalk sales, carefully placed plazas and pocket parks become pauses in the urban form, offering spaces for gathering, for celebration, for quiet connection. From an infrastructure lens, we see the opportunity beneath our feet for low impact design stormwater management that work with nature and not against it. And then threading through all of this is our deepest responsibility, and that's to preserve Oakland's charm, not by freezing it in time, but by allowing it to evolve thoughtfully, honoring its scale, character, and story. Before proposing ideas, policies, or design strategies, we slowed down, we walked the streets, we observed the edges and the intersections and everyday moments that give the town its life and its rhythm. Through that process, we came to understand what makes the town of Oakland a truly desirable place to be. And that understanding is now quietly underpins through everything we'll share with you today. So with that local understanding firmly in place, our next step was to look outward toward other communities that have successfully preserved their character while evolving thoughtfully over time. So we studied places like Bluffton, South Carolina, Serenbe, Georgia, Sanford, Winter Garden, Rosemary Beach, and Oakland Park. These are communities that have embraced intentional design, human-scaled streets, and architectural continuity to create timeless downtowns. They're not models to replicate, but lessons to learn from. Each of these places demonstrates how careful attention to public realm design, building form, landscape, and detail can reinforce identity and create places that feel authentic, enduring, and deeply rooted. With a clear understanding of Oakland's character and a shared vision shaped by both local insight and precedent, this work begins to take physical form. We have a lot of examples, I'm sorry. I'm just not sure how fast to scroll through these. I know some of you have a printout. So here from this vantage point, it becomes clear that downtown Oakland is composed of a series of distinct blocks rather than a single uniform condition.

So in response, the study area was organized into three separate character districts.

And each of these is defined by its role and design intent. But they work together to create a coordinated framework. So we're gonna walk through block by block of how this streetscape will look beginning at the southern end in the Gateway District. This is the point of arrival into Oakland from State Road 50. Here, the public realm plays a critical role in signaling entry slowing movement, and setting expectations. Streetscape enhancements in this district focus on memorable landscape elements and entry signage, which is included as number five that you see in the bottom left corner. That's a proposed marker for the town of Oakland and the indicator that pulls you in from driving along State Road 50. And then looking at a different perspective of this roadway, You can see the top line there. That image shows you where you're looking at, and you're looking north. So this section view is the proposed condition along Tubb Street. The design illustrates a shift from existing pull-in diagonal parking to a consistent parallel parking layout along this block. narrowing the space devoted to storing cars and allowing more room for people and trees. And from a planning perspective, the uniform parking treatment establishes cohesion along the main street. It reinforces predictability, safety, and it allows you to predict how much frontage you have for businesses to create some economic activity in front of their business. Moving north, we want to reinforce a clear sense of arrival at Sadler Avenue, where the surface shifts from asphalt to brick, and architectural columns serve as visual markers of identity, signaling entry into a special place. The treatments along this block continue the on-street parking, wider shaded sidewalks for enjoyable walking and biking, and we also recognize that Oakland Avenue is a very important west connector we reviewed a previous proposal that was submitted at the southwest corner of oakland avenue and tub street intersection and we actually repositioned that site plan a little bit to remove any curb cuts along tub street we don't want curb cuts perversing the streetscape it creates conflict points for pedestrians and instead we moved that access point off of the side road off of oakland And then we saved number seven, which is a large, beautiful oak tree, by relocating the plaza that was really proposed along Brooklyn Avenue to that intersection to address that intersection, get some liveliness along that intersection. And so this would be the view looking north down Tub Street between Hull Avenue and Oakland Avenue, and you'll notice Prairie Coffeehouse on the left. And then here, a closer look at the intersection. This design incorporates traffic calming strategies to slow vehicles while introducing visually appealing floral elements to enhance the public realm. And together with subtle branding features, these components signal a transition as you enter the cultural center of downtown, leading us to the canopy strip. So this segment builds on materials and character that already exist today. Brick paving is already present in portions of this block, and the proposal extends that treatment continuously for the full block length, and it reinforces the historic identity. The design also acknowledges future opportunities across the roundabout from the existing town hall. There's a potential for commercial or civic development assisting in anchoring the town center. materiality becomes a clear or organizing strategy here as you move downtown first block is programmed primarily with asphalt and concrete.

Then you get to the second block, which is a mix of concrete brick and then the central block is envisioned as all brick with integrated landscaping marking it as the focal point.

The proposed hardscape palette draws from materials that are authentic to Florida's history, including tabby shell concrete, crushed coquina, red brick, cut stone. These all reinforce a sense of place rooted in local craft, durability, and regional character. And then a quintessential landscape palette focused on oak and palm canopy with naturalized ground level covering. Oakland's inherent charm and historic character are already evident, providing strong bones upon which to build a true destination, one that fosters daily life for its residents and offers a memorable experience to visitors to come back to. To move from vision to action, we shift from design imagery to implementation, The next step in our role was to translate these ideas into policy by amending the Tubbs Street, Oakland Avenue overlay within the conference.

The following slides are just gonna go.

So the overlay will establish enacting policies to guide future development and public investment, including expanding permitted uses, promoting active ground floor uses, and allowing greater density and intensity than the underlying future land use. Incentive tools like density bonuses offer developers options for development that align with the downtown region in exchange for additional units or commercial square footage.

And we'll go over that criteria.

So the existing overlay identifies three separate nodes which are proposed to be replaced with a unified main street sub area of the overlay. This new sub area focuses policies around all of the things that we just showed in those designs, but historic character, improved streetscaping, neighborhood-oriented businesses, urban design and architectural standards, enhanced connectivity. So here's a map of the scoped area and all the solid Colored properties that you see would be required to participate in the overlay, and then those that are striped would be allowed to opt in. These are focused on properties that front onto Tubbs Street or front onto the cabin. Those are the properties we've identified that we want to participate. And I do want to reiterate that this is only for new construction or major redevelopment. So properties can continue to exist as they are today until such time as they come in for some sort of major. The main street sub area will further implement the vision by establishing clear maximum densities and intensity levels tailored to each character district, ensuring future development respects desired scale context and small town while supporting appropriate growth. And here's getting into the density and intensity bonuses. So some of the options here would be vertically mixed use development, sustainable development certifications like LEED, infrastructure improvements. And I just wanna clarify that the version of the comprehensive plan packet that you all have may say undergrounding utilities as a qualifying investment for development incentives. Through recent conversations with staff, we've actually updated that to just simply be infrastructure improvements. For example, if a developer wanted to invest in a larger stormwater pond to be able to support deeper development around the area, that could also apply as criteria. also workforce housing, or an enhancement otherwise required by that is proposed by the applicant . So if they want to do a publicly accessible park or plaza, or some public art to contribute to the public realm, or potentially like a parking lot that could be open to the public, or events, or something like that. So any application for development in this area . pre-application conference with staff, the ARB town commission. Okay, so today's request. So we wanted to give you guys a little bit of an update from ARB. We presented this to them at their last meeting and we included language in the comprehensive plan at that time for ARB. five up to five stories in the gateway district the closest to colonial then moving north three stories in heritage walk and then two stories in the historic district and arb we talked for quite a while and then airb recommended that the gateway district be limited to stories um and so we took that back to staff we spoke with staff about it and staff actually took it even a step further so um They've reduced it to four stories between State Road 50 and Ryan Court, which is really in the middle of the Gateway District. And then from Ryan Court to Sadler, you'd have to drop down to that three story. So you'll really get three stories from Ryan Court all the way to and then it'll drop down again to the Canopy District.

So staff recommends that the Planning and Zoning Board recommends approval

of the Tubbs Street overlay district comprehensive plan amendment with the newest revision to height strict. The next steps will be a transmittal hearing at the town commission. And then we will come back to this board along with Airbnb and town commission to talk to you about the more granular details of the land development changes. So the comp plan is really the visionary document and the land development code is really the implementation document. So we are, for the sake of time, putting them both in one is a little bit complicated. So we just wanted to give you guys the vision today.

thank you go ahead don't go away i do have questions so this vision doesn't seem to include how people will get to these businesses that we're talking about, all these boutique places. I look at Arm 9, for instance. Everyone who goes there parks across the street in the field on a busy day. And that's fine, but I don't see any accommodation in this vision for people getting here. Can you respond to that at all? Where people coming from, suppose we want people from Winter Garden or Claremont to come here, where are they going to park their cars to get to our walkable street?

Sure, so well one we want to do this because we want people to come here by trail we've programmed along one side of the street there be a bike trail on one side, so you could take the West orange trail by bike down tub street. So that would be one option and then the second option is that we'd be lining the street with on street parking. And then the third option is, well, it's not really an option. You're required to put parking behind businesses or on a property where you're opening a business. So that requirement's not going away. You're still going to be required to have on-site parking. So all of the on-street parking would be in addition to whatever is required.

Okay, it's just nothing is shown in your vision about accommodating that specific and important need if we're going to have a viable economic community here.

Sure. So if you look at the aerials that we've provided, you can see the on-street parking all along the street.

On-street parking, but you've got, you don't have, you have parallel parking, which is very low density. I mean, you line up cars, so you get 15 cars down the street. Those 15 cars are not going to support a business or multiple businesses that we desire to have come down and develop in our area.

I understand. I think that our opinion is that it will, along with the required parking on the site. It's actually over and beyond what you have now.

Each site will have their own parking on it. So if a new commercial building comes on, half of the site is building, half of it is parking. But they don't know what the configuration of that lot is going to be. So it's hard to show the parking.

Right, this is only addressing the public realm, not private development. The only site that we looked at for private development was due to a recent application for this Oakland Avenue Tub Street intersection. And we saw a really great opportunity to add a public park at the corner, like a publicly accessible plaza that would help to activate that corner. So that's the only reason that we looked at any bits of private property here.

One thing I wondered about, I see all of this and I see where it starts, but at the corner of 50 and Tubb is a BP station and on the opposite corner there's a brand new business that's in the middle of redeveloping that former batting cage operation that's not even in there yet. So I kind of don't understand how people would feel welcomed into Oakland and this vision you're talking about without some sort of introduction, so to speak, to that area of Tubbs Street that will be developed.

Sure. Well, again, we don't control private property, right? So we can't control what they do there other than the regulations that are in the code. So that is not something that we can just purchase and put in. But we have we have presented a proposal for entry signage that would face colonial drive so that right now you don't know that Oakland is here. really, if you're driving by. There's no sign that says, this way to Oakland. Welcome to Oakland. So we were hoping that some sort of entry feature gateway signage would help to pull people in.

Yeah, and I think the challenge with commercial development and working in that space is that the town is not really inviting to commercial development right now, right? We see what happens next door at Winter Garden. Everybody goes over there. They built Cricket Can and that old Plant Street development. Now everybody goes there. Now Winter Garden's the hottest thing, and everybody wants to be like Winter Garden. I think the town needs to have a plan so that developers can see what the vision will be for the town. This isn't going to happen overnight. So I commend the town for taking the initiative to start. that we can start this process and you know if it's a 10-year process or one-year process we'll get there it's not going to be quick but at least it will start encouraging and then what happens is as these develop you can see it right next door with winter garden as you get developments that come in the old crappy stuff gets redeveloped so the bp at the corner will get redeveloped the batting cage place will get redeveloped it'll happen it just it's going to take time but

The town's gotta go into a process to start letting it develop so that we can get to be like that in the future.

So I think it's a step in the right direction. Unfortunately, it's not gonna be as quick as we all want it to be, but it will happen.

So part of our scope was to provide a list of available grants to be able to fund some of this. So that is an option. And then to your point, as developments come in, when you adopt a code like this, it will happen incrementally. So as a new development comes in, that law now turns into this beautiful streetscape and it spurs more activity and therefore spurs more interest. And now you have more demand to be in this community.

Does the town have any interest in building any commercial development to start the process, you know, kind of like what they did at Plant Street with Winter Garden today? City of Winter Garden owns that and leases the space out. Like is that come up in any conversations? It has.

I can't really go into it, but the only property that we own is around town center, right? And so we have had discussions. This is like Katie was saying, and as you were saying, this is the first step to have a vision document that we can then start working those other ideas around. Um, you know, we, we understand you can't do anything. I mean, dry rights doing what they can with that building. Um, the nice thing about a vision plan like this is we were able to say, even though it wasn't approved yet is this is something we're looking at in the future. to Gil, who's the owner of Dry Right. And, you know, like, we'd like to get rid of your secondary access. And this is kind of the plan for the streetscape so that he knew what he was getting into. And he was like, absolutely. you know um as we meet with other people down the street we can say these are the expectations moving forward you know we'd like you to participate right um so that is what we can do with a with a plan like this is this is this is what's coming be prepared we'd like you to participate it'll drive their rents up i mean they'll start being able to generate more income than that so

Do we know, like, what would the timing be for, because obviously the town's going to have to rebuild that street. Is that a three-year process to get to that, or quicker, or?

So again, it's I mean, unfortunately, we don't have buckets of buckets of money laying around. You know, optimally, you would love to do it in one fell swoop, right? But we are going to have to piecemeal it. And again, as developers come in, we'd like them to contribute to their area. And hopefully, then we can, you know, get additional money to try to develop further down.

Any questions? Open it to the public.

Wait, can I have a go back? The building heights, how did you decide on the recommendation for the building heights? Three stories, four stories, two stories?

Sure. So we had a charrette with all of city staff. and we did a lot of research on comparable places and looked at what height give you that feeling of comfort and security along the sidewalk, but provide for the types of uses that we were being asked. to allow, and so we really settled around that two-story height in this historic area, three moving from here all the way down to Ryan, well, really to initially to Sadler, now to Ryan Court, and then we had initially proposed five stories along Colonial Drive and heard from ARB that that seemed too high, and so we settled on four. I've looked at several other communities that have frontage along State Road 50, and four stories is much lower than what other communities would allow, and the density proposed is much lower than other communities would allow, but that is the guidance that we received, and so that's where we took it.

What would be the proposal for, say, floors three and four in those four stories? I mean, what would be there? Residential.

residential what unit?

No, I know. Are you talking condos? Are you talking? What are you talking?

Whatever? I don't think that anyone controls rental versus ownership.

Either apartment could be townhomes.

It could also be offices. I mean, you know, if it's a partner.

I've also seen very successful like second story yoga studios or nail studios that are based or like schedule based. There are retail components that work on second floors as well.

Goodbye.

I didn't know if you had a predetermined vision about what those would be.

So that sounds really up to the property owner. And we've allowed for some additional uses in this area to allow for some more liveliness and activity along this corridor. I noticed when we came for our site visit, Prairie House was really the only place to grab some food, some quick food and a drink. And we were asked to open that up a little bit and allow for more restaurants and retail for people to spend a little more time.

And you're aware that Farm 9 is also in the same property with Prairie House Coffee? Yeah. Okay.

It's really cute.

So is there a five-story building on 50 in the neighborhood that you could remind me of? Because I can't think of any buildings that are that tall nearby.

Well, I was saying their codes allow. I don't know of any existing building.

They're going down there. The recommendation is to keep it at three now.

Well, just to be clear, four on 50 and tub up to Ryan Court. So just that very first part of it, and then three-story forward.

Yeah, well, we approved across the street.

In the back, I think that's a three-story apartment building.

Stay within that.

That would have been three. So that would have been kind of what we're talking about here with the retail on the first floor and residential on the upper two floors is what that was approved for.

Yes. Open it up to the public.

Public, anybody want to speak? All right.

you have to state his name manager or is it on record all right thank you so much for that presentation wonderful i do just i want to just ask again on the parking is this baked in stone as far as the parallel versus you know diagonal because i do think that even though it's it would be great for individuals to come on bike or foot middle of august july Some individuals don't have that ability. So again, when you look at Winter Garden, parking is limited.

parking garage so anything to allow individuals to come or businesses or is there is there parking that would be all the way up and down tub street or is it just in that small area so the way that this is visioned obviously the gateway district up to ryan court would not have the parallel parking right that doesn't make sense there because of the turn lanes however from ryan court all the way up to town center you would have that parallel parking So we would be gaining quite a bit of parking that we currently do not have.

Thank you.

A good bit of parking behind where the dental office is and cut-ups. And then there's those slanted. Good many of those.

You need golf cart parking is what you need. Golf cart parking because that's how people are going to come. Yeah.

I don't think people are going to come off the trail. Don't even come to Celebration and Santa's Lane and all that. But I think

This allows them that opportunity. So one of the other things that we're working on, just as a side note, is to extend the Saddler. We want to create a Saddler linear park off Saddler Avenue. You can kind of see where the beginning of that would be there. That would go all the way and connect towards Longleaf. So that would extend the loop around there. and then connect back to the West Orange Trail. So it would kind of extend a little bit of that access. We'd also create a golf cart access point so people from Longleaf could connect through as well.

So that's that property where once upon a time was going to be a dog park.

Yes, yes. Though it's going to be a parallel park, just a long, narrow park.

Anybody else?

All right, those public comments, questions.

So I guess we, what are we exactly to accept the recommended to town commission?

Yeah, it's a recommendation of the town commission subject to any qualifications or any conditions you want. Or even, you know, I heard issues with parking. You know, if there's anything you want them to study when they review, when this goes up to them for the transmittal hearing, then you can include that in a motion.

I'll take a shot at it.

Okay, so I make a motion that we recommend to the commission that they accept this change to the height of buildings from 50 up to Ryan Court and between Ryan Court and Sadler. Four stories facing 50 and three stories from Sadler. I also include in the recommendation to the Commission in this motion that they consider the necessity and availability of parking in this vision so that we make it convenient and easy for people to visit us and stay and do business.

Just a point of clarification. I think what staff is looking for is a recommendation of approval of the entire amendment to the comp plan, inclusive of the ARB revisions, if that's correct. So if you wouldn't mind amending your motion to include recommendation of approval for the entire plan with those additional changes. That makes sense. Because I think you just made it as to the building height

Well, yeah, because that was today's request. Was it not?

I think it's the entire package with those changes as well. Okay.

Okay, so then let me amend. Bottom bullet there. Okay, so let me amend the motion to recommend that the building heights be four stories from 50 to Ryan Court and three stories from between Ryan Court and Sadler and that the commission accept the rest of the amendment as stated for the Gateway District. Okay.

All right.

Anything else?

If not, meeting adjourned. Thank you.