Appearance Review Board - Regular Meeting

i will call to order the appearance review board meeting on may 5th 2026 let's stand for the pledge of allegiance

Okay, we'll do roll call. Chair Grimes. Vice Chair Gill.

Here.

Member Boehm.

Present.

Member Rain. Present. Member Kettle. Here. And we have a new member, Kettle, with us tonight. Would you like to introduce yourself?

Sure. My name is Laura. I live in Longleaf. I'm a realtor with the Pozat Group. I have a bachelor's in archaeology with a minor in museum studies. My goal was to be a museum curator, and I actually worked on historic homes and buildings before with preservation and then archaeology. designing show pieces in there. So yeah, I have a background in appearance, appearances and keeping things how they're supposed to be preserving artifacts. And then of course, with real estate, we do resale and new construction. So a lot of new construction properties have restrictions of appearances as well. So I'm very familiar with all of this. And I'm so excited to be a part of the team. Thank you so much.

Is there anyone present who would like to speak? I will close the floor. The approval of the minutes from April 7th, 2026, are there any questions or comments on the minutes? Can I have a motion to approve?

I'll make a motion to approve the minutes from April 7th, 2026.

Second.

All in favor?

Aye. Aye.

Any opposed? Motion passes. Now the new business of Tubbs Street and Oakland Avenue overlay district comprehensive plan amendments.

Hello, members of the Appearance Review Board. My name is Katie Magruder. I'm with Dick's Height Plus Partners. Here with me is Emily Thomas from Kimley Horn, and I will be presenting to you the vision for transforming Tubb Street into a Main Street today. Should have asked how this works, but here we go. The project boundary extends one block east and west of South Tub Street from Colonial Drive at the southern boundary to the West Orange Trail at the north boundary. The core project purpose is to re-envision this corridor as the heart of Oakland, a living room for the town where life unfolds at a human pace,

I don't need this.

Or do you need it for the record?

Okay.

Okay. From a design standpoint, we seek comfort first, widening sidewalks, making sure that there's shade from trees and structures, and shaping the streetscape that invites people to linger and not hurry through it. We imagine a street that nurtures local enterprise with businesses that spill into the public realm, either through sidewalk cafes or maybe sidewalk sales for retail, and then carefully placed plazas and pocket parks that become pauses in the urban form, offering spaces for gathering and celebration and quiet connection. From an infrastructure lens, we see opportunities beneath our feet as well, integrating low impact development and stormwater strategies into the streets infrastructure. Threading through all of this is our deep responsibility to preserve Oakland's charm, not by freezing it in time, but by allowing it to evolve thoughtfully, honoring its scale, character and story. Before proposing ideas, policies or design strategies, our team slowed down. We walked the streets, observed the edges and the intersections and immersed ourselves in the town's patterns and details. We listened and we observed Oakland streets and storefronts, its buildings and public spaces and the everyday moments that give its town give this town life and rhythm. Through that process, we came to understand what makes town of Oakland a truly desirable place to be. So that understanding now quietly underpins everything we'll share with you today. Our next step was to look outward toward other communities that have successfully preserved their character while evolving thoughtfully over time. We studied places like Bluffton, South Carolina, Serenbe, Georgia, Sanford, Winter Garden, Rosemary Beach, and newer communities like Oakland Park, communities that have embraced intentional design, human scaled streets, and architectural continuity that creates timeless downtowns. These are models not to replicate, but lessons to learn from. So each of these places demonstrates how careful attention to the public realm design, building form, and landscape reinforce identity, economic vitality, and create places that feel authentic and long-lasting, enduring, and deeply rooted. So with a clear understanding of Oakland's character and a shared vision shaped by local insight and precedent, this work begins to take physical form. What you're seeing now is a big picture view of the study area where the ideas we've discussed translate into a cohesive framework for the public realm. From this vantage point, it becomes clear that downtown Oakland is composed of a series of distinct blocks and not a single uniform condition. So in response, the study area was organized into character districts. Here you see the Gateway District, Heritage Walk, and the Canopy District. With that structure in mind, we'll now walk through each segment and look at what this looks like block by block. Beginning at the southern edge of the study area is the Gateway District. This is the point of arrival into Oakland from State Road 50. Here, the public realm plays a critical role in not only signifying entry into the town, but slowing down vehicles and setting expectations of what's to come in the downtown. The streetscape enhancements in this district focus on memorable landscape elements and clear way finding, including item five, which we've proposed as entry signage that you'll be able to see, or a gateway feature that you'd be able to see from State Road 50, And it's that indicator to pull you into the town.

I'm sorry, I want you guys to see this. Okay, maybe that's.

Okay, this section view is the proposed condition along Tubbs Street when you turn in from State Road 50. The design illustrates a shift from the existing pull-in diagonal parking to a consistent parallel parking condition along this block. When you narrow the space that's devoted to car storage, You can increase the space devoted to humans and their activities so from a planning perspective, the uniform parking treatment establishes cohesion along the main street. It reinforces predictability safety and it allows for you to have predictability with how much frontage you're going to have for those businesses to interact and keeping that consistent along the corridor.

Here we go.

Moving north, we want to reinforce a clear sense of arrival at Sadler Avenue, where the surface shifts from asphalt to brick. And architectural columns serve as a visual marker of identity, signalizing that you're coming into a special place. So you have your entrance with the gateway feature from State Road 50, and you're slowing down the cars, and then you have this change in materiality that brings you in closer to the downtown. The treatments along this block continue with on-street parking and wider sidewalks for bicyclists and pedestrians. We also recognize that Oakland is a really major east-west connector. And so we took a look at a proposal that previously came forward to the city It's at the southwest corner of Oakland and Tubb Street, and we re-envisioned it a little bit. So we removed the curb cuts that they had along Tubb Street because they were really kind of piercing through the streetscape. You like to keep consistency along the streetscape and require that those access points are on the side streets or the back so that you don't have those pedestrian conflict points within the streetscape. We also saved a large oak tree, number seven that's highlighted on this plan, and then relocated the plaza that they had programmed to go around this tree. So you're providing shade, this active corner, that inherently just slows cars down at that intersection anyway. And so looking at that a little bit closer, This is the view looking north down Tub Street between Hull and Oakland Avenue. And you'll notice the Prairie Coffee House on the left to orient you. And then just a little bit further up, you can see the intersection design incorporates traffic calming strategies to slow vehicles while introducing visually appealing floral elements that enhance the public realm. And together with subtle branding features, this really signalizes your transition into the cultural center of downtown, leading us to the . So this segment builds on materials and character that already exist today. This proposal extends that brick treatment continuously for the full block length, and it reinforces its historical identity. The design also acknowledges future opportunities across the roundabout from the existing town hall. We see potential for a new large commercial or civic development assisting in anchoring this town center. When I say large, I mean like two stories. And some of the materiality becomes a clear organizing strategy as you move through the street into downtown. The first block's programmed with asphalt and concrete, the second block transitions to a mix of concrete and brick, and then the central block is envisioned as all brick with integrated landscaping, marking it as the real focal point The proposed hardscape palette draws from materials that are authentic to Florida's history, including tabby shell and concrete, fresh coquina, red brick, cut stone. These all reinforce the sense of place rooted in local craft, durability, regional character. And then a quintessential landscaping palette focused on oak and palm canopy with naturalized ground level things. Oakland's inherent charm and historic character are already very evident, providing strong bones upon which to build a true destination, one that fosters daily community life for residents while maintaining and creating memorable experience that invites visitors to return again and again. So now we move from the vision to action, from design imagery to implementation. So the next step in our role was to translate these ideas into policy by amending the Tubb Street and Oakland Avenue overlay within the comprehensive plan. So this overlay will establish an acting policies to guide future development and public investment. It includes expanding permitted uses, promoting active ground floors, and allowing greater density and intensity than is allowed by the current future land use district. Incentive tools like density bonuses offer developers options for development enhancements that align with this vision in exchange for additional units or commercial square footage. And we'll go over those options here in a little bit. The existing overlay identifies three separate nodes which are proposed to be replaced with a unified Main Street sub area of the overlay. So in the map that you see, the three nodes have been removed because they were within this study area, and so it would be replaced by this Main Street sub overlay. This new sub area focuses policies around historic character small charm improve streetscaping neighborhood oriented businesses urban design and architectural standards and enhance connectivity and walk everything that we just showed you. So who would be required to participate in this overlay? So all the properties that you see in a solid color would be required to do this overlay upon major renovations or redevelopment or new construction. The properties can exist how they are today with no requirements to come up to any codes unless they're going through some sort of major redevelopment. All the properties that you'd see in the striped color are opt-in. So they can choose to be a part of the overlay and opt-in to the standards, or they can develop under their existing entitlements in the Land Development Code and the comp plan as they are today. And we've focused the required properties along Tubbs Street and Oakland Avenue. So those are the, any property that touches either of those streets from the front would be required to opt in, or would be required to do the standards, sorry. So the Main Street sub area will further implement the VISM by establishing clear maximum densities and intensities. They're tailored to each character district, ensuring future development respects the desired scale, context, and small town feel. while supporting appropriate growth And so getting back to those developer options. So vertically mixed use development could help tap into getting a density or intensity bonus. Any sort of sustainable development certification like a LEED certified building, infrastructure improvements, workforce housing, or an enhancement that's not otherwise required by this code. So for example, that plaza that we had shown as an option for the corner of Tubb Street and Oakland Avenue, that could potentially help that developer get some additional units because that's such a great public. This could be a park, a plaza, public art, or even public parking. So on street parking or having parking available to the public on your site. I did want to remind In the comprehensive plan packet that you received, there has been one change from the language in that document. And originally we had referenced undergrounding utilities as a qualifying investment for development incentives. And based on some recent discussions with city staff, this language has been brought in to include infrastructure improvements more generally. So for example, if a developer wanted to fund a master stormwater pond that future developments could tap into, that could be something that helps you get closer to your maximum density allowance. So any application for development that would come forward within this area would follow this application procedure. So this board would review any of those development proposals. And this is just a reminder of what the request is before you today. So staff recommends that the Appearance Review Board approves the Tubbs Street Overlay District Comprehensive Plan Amendment. And the next steps for this amendment would be to go to PNZ for a transmittal hearing, then town commission for a transmittal hearing, and then it is actually transmitted to the state. And then once the comprehensive plan amendment is transmitted to the state, you'll see me back here again and we'll do a follow-up presentation with more granular details about the standards that would go into the land development code. And so that will address the actual street design, the frontage, setbacks, materials, and development character along. And so I'm here for any questions if you all have them.

So this is my first time on the review board. So I do have maybe questions for you guys as well. But as far as going vertical, do we have a limit in the town on how high?

There is. And without knowing the specifics, there's design districts generally. But yeah, there are. I think for residential, generally 35 commercial

I don't know.

Okay.

Guys, I'm sorry. We weren't picking that up on the recording on the audio.

Can you hear me now?

Yep.

Okay. Do I need to repeat it?

It'd probably be useful for the record just to very briefly mention what you just said.

The design districts have height requirements ranging anywhere from 35, I think up to 40, but I don't know off the top of my head what those are.

Okay.

With relation to this specific overlay, there are some height requirements including, and they would be raising the height in this area. So for the, I'm sorry, the canopy district, it would be two stories. For the heritage walk, it would be three stories. And for gateway, it would be five stories.

Okay, yeah, I was wondering in the circle part over here by the fountain, I saw some commercial suggestions and I just was concerned, oh, like an eight story something or others coming in. Also wondering about parking, because if we're eliminating some of those angled parking spots, I guess maybe that's something that's not directly on Tubbs Street, so it may not be a concern of this, but where would we navigate that parking to?

So there'll be more on-street parking all the way down Tub Street. So we're not removing parking spaces in totality. It's just that singular block will have to be accommodated elsewhere. But right now there's not even sidewalks on Tub Street for portions of it. So this would be adding sidewalks and then on-street parking all the way down to Colonial. Okay. Okay.

And then go over again about the existing buildings don't have to do this unless they're doing a renovation.

Yes. So unless there's usually it's called like a substantial improvement or enlargement in a land development code. So unless that threshold is tripped and it's usually a dollar amount related to the value of the building, unless that threshold is tripped, none of this would kick in.

Okay.

You could opt in. Yeah. But none of this would be required for you to like, you don't have to change anything about your building tomorrow. It's only if you're going through a major renovation that you would have to come into the mind.

Okay. Okay. And then maybe again, a question for you guys. What is that building on the northeast corner of tub and Oakland Avenue? What is that? I don't know what the brick. It's like a broken down garage. Oh, what is that? Is that something that can be opted in to change? Who owns that? Does the town own it?

No, no, no, no. Oh, okay. It's a private owner that owns almost all those buildings in that block.

Okay.

And rents them out.

If adopted and that property is redeveloped, it would be required. Okay. To meet the overlay standard.

Oh, I had no idea what it was. I thought we just kept lawnmowers in it or something. I didn't know. Thank you. Sure.

I asked a question about the heritage district vision on there. There's a note surrounding a proposed trail connection. I would assume that any of this, the goal would be to get people either off the trail or on the trail. So I was curious to see. I see it noted, but would like clarification on what that would look like.

I come look at what you're looking at. You mean you can't read my mind? Okay, so Sadler Avenue has a funky amount of town-owned property before private property that's an extension of the right-of-way there. And it's kind of a wide green space. And so in our framework, larger discussion about how the improvements along Tubb Street can make connections to the rest of the great things that are going on in Oakland. We explored that as a possibility to expand a trail and have kind of like an urban forest next to it because there's quite a bit of room there. So we did not get to like a schematic plan for that or anything, but just thought for the future it would be a really cool park or trail connection.

Thank you for clarifying. I have a store in downtown Winter Garden. So I want to first off just applaud. This looks beautiful. And I think overall, like my questions are very minimal. But I just know how many people at least in that vicinity come on and off the trail. And so just was curious what that would look like. I think I have another question, but I can't recall it right now. So thank you. Sure.

Yeah, I think this is great. I think your presentation and I think it's beautiful. I do agree, though, like bringing up the trail. You know, like maybe you could think about connecting the trail more to like the central area. Because it is like a big town center like the bike trail.

So I'm realizing maybe I didn't cover this in the presentation and I meant to. So in each of these sections, you'll see that along this, okay, north, along the western portion of Tubb Street, that entire length of Tubb Street will be an extension of the trail. So we have a wide sidewalk on the east side and a 12-foot trail on the west side.

Extension of the bike trail?

I mean, it's... Yeah, it will reach West Orange Trail. So it won't be like designated as an extension of West Orange Trail, but it will be a trail that connects to West Orange Trail.

So let me add on that real quick. So we actually have grant funds to develop Saddler Trail, Saddler Avenue Trail. So it will come from Longleaf. all the way down Saddler and then connect with the new sidewalks that are going in with the intent is to reroute back to the West Orange Trail. So we'll have golf cart access also alongside that so that people will be able to get from the Longleaf area all the way over and then access the rest of our golf cart trails along with the pedestrians because if you know Longleaf, it has a loop around it that people can ride their bikes or they can walk around there, that we required them to put in when they were developing, that now we want to tie in so that you can come off the trail onto Santa Barilla, come around Longleaf. I'm sorry, I know this is a tough topic for Longleaf. We don't want more people in our neighborhood, but that was the whole purpose, and then tie into this and then get back up to the Western Orange Trail. So it's almost like a loop off of it. to give people, and we were able to get funding from Healthy West Orange to be able to do a lot of that.

And what's great about that is it sends more bicycle traffic back up Tubb Street past these businesses, hopefully generating some more business as they're on the way to the trail.

Thank you. That was one of my questions about golf cart access. I know that's been a large topic within the town. I think a secondary call out similar to your call out earlier is regarding this specific roundabout area and whether or not the current plan allows for two story buildings and then kind of what the historic plan would be for the existing buildings and what is or is not protected, I suppose.

So nothing is actually considered historic. They're not on registries of any type, right? So existing structures right now, the plan is for them to remain as they are with maybe some improvements in the future. But I mean, we won't allow anything that's higher than a two-story building. And then we are working just, to ease your mind a little bit on trying to look where other parking potential is, because we understand if you add more buildings into town center, the parking already can get tight, especially on weekends and things like that. So we're working on some other things that we'll probably be able to talk about in the future when we know for sure those are gonna happen to try to add some additional parking.

Understanding that height is also something that's really sensitive here. I just wanted to point out like a technicality that we've actually put the heights in the comprehensive plan, which is not a normal thing that I've seen. And that actually protects the heights even more because if somebody wanted to go higher than that, they'd have to come and amend the comprehensive plan, which is quite arduous process. So those would be locked in through the comprehensive plan. So nobody, even if you're getting more units, you wouldn't be able to go higher or anything Thank you for doing that.

My one final call out is regarding landscaping because that's my area of expertise. If there's a way that we could look towards some Florida natives and things like that, I think it would behoove everyone in the long run.

I am here representing Vicks High Plus Partners, who is a landscape architecture firm who is very excited to hear you say that. So we are like-minded and hope that the city does the same. It's beautiful. Thank you so much. Thank you.

So I have one more question. So like around the roundabout now are homes. But is the intention to make the zoning commercial and basically gradually change the area into all commercial buildings? Or would it still stay residential? Or I guess my question is, you know, all along Tubbs Street, Is the intention for it to all be commercial or are some of the areas going to be preserved as residential, like some of those homes stay?

So properties that front on Tubb Street, our preference is mixed use. We want both. We want active commercial ground floors because that's how you have a thriving streetscape. You have people moving in and out of buildings. You have opportunities to learn, play, spend money, spend time, commune with your neighbors, and then residential on top of that. so that that's the goal for the properties that front tub street now the properties just adjacent to that one one back are can remain residential in character or opt into the overlay and have a mix of office commercial small scale mixed use i would like to add on to that question because at one point i said they are required Can you...

In Oakland Avenue, they're required to follow this. Do these people have to sell? Are they going to be required to sell? Are they going to be required to be a business? Or can they stay a resident?

They can stay a resident. They can sell their house just as is. If somebody knocks the house down, they'll be required to come and take a client.

If they want to sell it, they can stay residential if they want. Yes. So let me ask, I got one question. Are we passing a motion for just what we heard today or everything that we read in the agenda packet? There was a lot in the agenda packet that we didn't touch on.

So this is a really high level presentation of the comprehensive plan packet that you received. I was not going to go through that item by item. But if you have questions about that, I can answer them here. But your approval today would be of that document itself.

The whole agenda packet that we got? Yes. Because I got some issues about things that were taken out.

about the Florida vernacular.

So all up Cub Street and on Oakland Avenue, you're asking us to approve not keeping Florida vernacular, small town Oakland.

That was not the intent. We may have removed that word from the comprehensive plan, but there has been language added that also is respectful of the small town charm and historic character. Yes.

Then you have to adhere to it. I guess down the road we can say yes or no to what is presented to us.

Correct. So when I come back with the land development code, that will be where you'll see the architectural standards that we have.

And the height requirements, three stories is pretty high. But the five stories from Sadler to 50, I can't see that. No town around here has five stories. Winter Garden downtown doesn't even have anything over three stories. I can't see little Oakland having a five-story building.

I can, along Colonial Drive.

Okay, maybe on Colonial Drive.

Remember that Gateway goes all the way down to Colonial. So what I'd like to point out here, and this is just like a planning... HAB-Juliette Boone, theory that I want to talk through out loud, and that is when you cross over saddler here, this is a well established gas station right like nothing's happened in here for a very long time right and then we've got this property here there's no way. that you can fit five stories here. It's too small of a property, right? Same with this one here and same with these residences that are very well protected. So where I see that five stories happening is here. um if you'd like i can take that back to staff um and we can massage that language a little bit um to make sure that there's protection for the properties that are right along sadler i agree with you that five stories may not be appropriate right here fronting on sadler i just the way that the properties are configured that's basically impossible

That was in the language. It would make me feel a lot better. And I'm sure a lot of people in Oakland would not like to see even a four-story building on Cub Street itself.

Okay. I can take that back to staff and work on that with them.

Yeah.

I agree.

Yeah, I'll certainly take that feedback back to staff.

I'd like to then see what perhaps... The other facade would look like if the front of Oakland Ave was five stories, then how it would come down or not Oakland Ave. If 50 was five stories and then as the facade came down Oakland Ave, if it was separate properties or if we're talking about one large property. how that would play out. The building that we're in in Winter Garden was a huge discussion point just for everyone's context. And I think it's the tallest building in Winter Garden that was allowed, the one that... That's what I was trying to think. I think we're... I think it is four. Three. Mm-hmm. The first story, which is all commercial. And then you think...

I'm in your building, too, with the Posette Group.

I'm just using it as context because it's one of the larger, newer buildings in downtown Winter Garden. Yeah, I tend to agree with you all that... It just opens some opportunity. But I personally don't have a problem with it being State Road 50 being that tall.

Do you have to connect State Road 50? Then we're saying right down the street, it would be this walkable downtown area. How do you transition between the two?

I think that's my curiosity.

There are very walkable places with five stories. The five stories doesn't affect the walkability.

I think it does then affect the parking though.

Sure, definitely.

And just what that looks like. It's not so much a facade concern to me. It's more of a, although that's a contributor, it's the people in those five stories and where they park.

Sure, yeah. So my guess is it would be surface parked. The standards are written such that the building would need to be pulled up to the street on Colonial with parking in the rear. So you won't see that surface parking lot.

um and that's how it would be accommodated and of course the building is limited in height by how many parking spaces it can fit yeah the question about your um i guess slide 21 or page 21 right where the uh where tub street becomes a brick road and you've got the arch is that an arch the identity marker columns is that an arch going over the road that's like says oakland that's what it looks like it's actually two monuments separate monuments yes they're columns brick white brick columns on the picture it just looks like it's i mean i think it would be great having that's what i'm

We talked a lot about that actually, but because Oakland Avenue is such a east-west connector, especially for like the Briley Farms projects, and there's so many construction vehicles that are moving through there, we talked about how those would potentially be damaged in the short term. But I agree that a gateway feature like that would be incredibly impactful at that location.

I think any welcoming signage, there's a large opportunity. Or my other question, and perhaps this is a question for you, Elise, in the town. Obviously this portion of the plan includes a lot of sidewalk opportunities, right? But there's a lot of the town that does not have safe walkability. Is that something that we then consider at the same time of this? Like how does that all play out, especially along Oakland Ave, I guess is my question.

yeah so i mean this is just a start right this is just a street streetscape for here we have bigger issues in town i mean that we need to address as well but they will not be addressed as part of this i mean obviously i mean we continue to look for grant funds to see how we can improve make sidewalks on oakland avenue especially to get the kids to school right so right now like we have an east oakland avenue sidewalk project that we're working on that was partially developer funded that will be able to get people from oakland park to winners landing to be able to cross the street safely to get to the school so As we're finding funding, we're trying to, I mean, unfortunately, we have such a small budget, we're having to piecemeal a little bit. And, I mean, we'd love to do this whole project as a whole, but we're going to try to get the developers to pay for a portion of it, and then as funds are available, do other parts of it. So, I mean, unfortunately, we can't do it all.

No, I appreciate the transparency. As we just have more traffic, that was a thought of mine.

yeah it's it's an issue i do have another concern i'm i know i'm kind of beating this five-story thing but um i attended a couple of quite a few commission meetings and when the fourth street project was being proposed and the town like erupted because we were going to have another four-story apartment complex it was going to be close to highway so that was pushed way back to the back of the property if we say yes to a five-story building right on colonial i i don't think it'll even pass the town commission meeting because a lot of people will probably have a lot to say yeah

being individually, each project would still have to come before the board and then before P&Z. But we're the first ones to say, yes, we're okay with it. But we're not saying that.

I'm not okay with that either. Yeah. I have a question about the Grove, the shopping district portion. What is that max height for that? Do we know if that's two or three stories? So that was retail with two floors.

I don't know what the actual height was, but that's two floors of residential above the commercial.

Okay. So three, essentially three stories. Yeah. So would it make sense to coincide with that so it looks uniform?

Well, I mean, you have to keep in mind that now is for sale, so we don't know if that's even going to get developed, right?

Oh, it's for sale?

Yeah. So, I mean... I think the intent was to try to develop what's left. I mean, we have just 50 left to really develop. So what does that look like? I mean, if you guys want to recommend it as four stories max, then you can say that and we can move that forward with that recommendation. That's, I mean, a valid concern. Yeah.

I would say that a transition is pretty necessary between Sadler and 50. So I would like to see it be four rather than three, keeping that consistency. I mean, the character on Colonial is so drastically different from standing at the corner of Sadler and Tubb that it makes more sense to have the height in that location. Okay.

And again, I mean, Katie made a very valid point where you have to have enough parking for your building. If you look at these parcels, even if they're redeveloped, the gas station, the one next door, you know, across from dry, right. You're going to be limited by how high you can go, how dense you can be just based on, they're not going to have to, you know, the streetscape parking that is as available as further up tub, right. So they'll be limited already by that.

Can you clarify, because we're talking a lot about walkability and, like, slowing down the traffic to get to this square area. So, like, how do you plan on doing that? Are we changing speed limit? Or, like, what is the plan to slow down the traffic?

Sorry, it looks like you were about to answer.

Do you want to?

So part of it is just the surface of the roadway being brick. That's immediately gonna slow down cars, right? And then we have street trees that would go in adjacent to the right-of-way. So that visual friction automatically slows you down. It's psychological. Then you have things like bulb outs. So like where you pointed out the two columns that are number nine, do you see how where the on-street parking ends, the curb moves inward? point it out if you'd like, but you can see that the curbs actually move inward and it narrows the street. That's another means of traffic calming. You're creating a safer distance for pedestrians to cross by moving the curbs inward. So those types of things. The number four up there, is a chicane median that has an opportunity for a branding element and column or some florals, something beautiful to invite you in. That median will certainly slow down traffic as you're entering into the canopy district. Those are just some of them off the top of my head. Then obviously on street parking. So if you're driving down a Winter Garden or a Park Avenue, you're moving slower because you're watching for people backing in and out, pulling in and out. all of those things are traffic calming.

I do feel the need to say though, like the four-way stop that's on Tubb Street and Oakland Avenue, it does have a lot of traffic and it gets backed up at like five o'clock or when school's over. So is there a plan in this to kind of control the traffic at the four-way stop? or make it better, because it's only going to get worse, you know? Is there going to be a streetlight thing?

We didn't contemplate that. We're not traffic engineers. So this was merely an aesthetic look at the street. So that was not contemplated as part of this. And we don't anticipate, I could see something like that happening when a multifamily or new development comes in. And now all of a sudden there's enough residents there that trip a transportation threshold of needing a signal there. Off the bat, there's nothing that's going to trip that requirement, but new development along this corridor could trip that in the future.

Question about Hull Avenue on that same screen right there. Sure. Was there ever an intent or a desire to extend Hull eastward? on the original town plant. I mean, there's never been a road there. So is there a way are we ever going to consider that? That never going to happen?

I don't feel that property. Well, they own Yeah, most of it. I mean, we have an easement that goes that way. But I don't think it's wide enough to actually extend the road fully all the way through.

The street does happen.

Further over. Yes. Through the field.

Yeah. But it'll most likely never be.

I have not heard of those discussions.

That would. Going into the businesses. That I didn't have anyone.

You know, if that property were to come in for redevelopment, that would be something that I think it'd be really cool of staff to bring up in a pre-application meeting to say, like, here is this opportunity. We already have this easement. It sounds like nobody can build on top of that easement, but maybe that they could do something raised over that easement and allow a pass through to get to the road behind it. So I think that that could be implemented on a project basis. if that developer is open to it.

I have a question about the districts. I like that you called them the Gateway, the Heritage, and the Canopy. I think that's really unique. Are we implementing that at all? Or is it just like for us to understand the different areas? Because I think it'd be cool to implement that in the town.

I think it was an attempt to give some identity to each of these blocks, right? So like each one should have a little bit of their own character. And I love the idea of integrating it into some of the branding for the town.

I agree. So again, after...

say we approve this well i guess we're going to have some suggestions about the height um but looking in the future after we approve this then it'll go down to individual things that we have to approve right yes so as elise mentioned this is not like a capital improvement project that's already funded so um part of the goal here is to kind of lay the foundation so that each property doesn't have to go through a rezoning, rezoning, rezoning, rezoning, rezoning, and that you actually create the vision for continuity along this corridor. And so as developers come in, you'll be able to review development plan by development plan as opposed to like an eight month rezoning future land use process where like each developer ends up working with the city on an individualized development. Here, the standards are written and you just move forward with a development plan and you all then have the ability to review each of those.

Great. I mean, I think this was a great presentation. We had some great questions too. I agree. Great questions.

Do members have any other questions or comments?

Oh, I have one more question, actually. Um, for the residential upstairs portion. How does the town feel about making sure that condo residences instead of apartments? Like, is there a way to make sure? I remember when the Oakland Avenue ones were coming on, and everyone was upset that it was apartments. We didn't want the transient lifestyle here. trying to limit that so is there a way is that still something everybody cares about making sure like if it's apartments or condos something you own versus rent not everybody at once did someone say they were tagging me in wade go ahead okay thank you um

Yeah, regulating the form of ownership effectively of multifamily tends to be something that's very problematic under Florida law. Keep in mind what you're really getting at is that it's got to be owner-occupied. And there are a number of problems with implementing that under Florida law. Because even if that multifamily residential were set up as condominium units, you may end up still with them being rented. Generally, we have restrictions under Florida law on restricting both shorter term rentals or what we call vacation rentals and longer term rentals. This is primarily to. These aren't really affordable housing in that sense, but it's to provide more housing options for folks. So the general advice I would give you is that's not really something we can regulate at a land development regulation or comp plan level. It does end up being part of the conversation when a particular project comes through, but putting it in our rules would be problematic.

Okay, thank you.

is there anyone present who would like to speak on this item i will close the floor do any members have any further comments can i have a motion i will make a motion i will make a motion to approve the sub street oakland avenue overlay district comprehensive plan amendment with the change to change the verbiage on Gateway Objective 3.8 to reflect maximum three-story on Tubb Street and to allow four-story max on State Road 50 and to put the Florida Vernacular back into the design of the buildings and try to stay as close to that as possible.

Will you note that policy number that you're referencing for the Florida Vernacular?

Yeah.

I just wanted to make sure I hit the one that you wanted to be changed.

Objective 3.6 in the canopy district. That was the Florida vernacular part was crossed out.

Thank you so much. We'll address that.

Can I have a second?

Second.

All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes. This meeting is adjourned at 7.23 p.m.

Thank you for your presentation. Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Have a good night, everyone.