Public Works Committee - Regular Meeting

Good morning, and welcome to the Public Works and Transportation Committee meeting of today, Tuesday, October 14. The time is now 11:30AM, and this meeting has come to order. Before taking roll, I will provide instructions on how to submit a speaker's card for items on this agenda. If you're here with us in chambers and you would like to submit a speaker cards, please fill one out and turn into myself before the item is read into record. Online speaker requests were due twenty four hours prior to this meeting, making that time yesterday at 11:30AM.

Speaker requests were the meeting came to order at 11:30. Speaker requests are due ten minutes after the meeting has began making that time 11:40AM. With that, we will now proceed to take roll. Council member Agayo? Present. Council member Houston is excused.

Haven't talked to him. He didn't tell me anything.

Council member Houston is absent. Council member Wong.

Present. Thank

you and chair Unger. Here. Here. Thank you. We have three members present, one absent Houston. And before we begin, chair Unger, do you have any announcements?

No announcements and council member Houston is in the room and present.

Thank you. Noting council member Houston present at 11:31AM. Moving to item one, approval of the draft minutes from the committee meetings held on June 24, July 8, July 22, and 09/30/2025. And you do have two speakers for this item. What zero speakers for this item.

Zero speakers for the item? Alright. Let's do we have a motion for the minutes?

Move approval, but I wanna hear from the public first.

I I believe there are no speakers. We're looking for approval of

the minutes. So I'll make a motion to approve the minutes. Yeah.

I'll second. Thank you.

We have a motion made by council member Gallo, seconded by council member Houston to accept the draft minutes from the committee meetings held on June 24, July 8, July 22, and September 30 as is on roll. Council member Gaio? Aye. Council member Houston? Aye.

And council member Wong? Aye. And chair Unger?

Aye. Aye.

Thank you. The motion passes with four ayes. To accept the approval of the draft minutes of the committee meetings held on June 24, July 8, July 22, and September 30 as is. Moving to item two, which is the termination of scheduled and outstanding committee items. And this is also known in your pending list and you do have two speakers for this item.

Let's do the speaker first please.

Moving to our public speakers. When I call your name please approach the podium. State your name for the record and you do have two minutes. William l Harpock, excuse me if I mispronounced your last name, and miss Asada.

William Harpock.

Excuse me if I mispronounced your last name.

Use the mic. The mic, sir.

Use the mic. Oh, the mic's on. Excuse me.

It's the

first time. Yeah. So I'm I'm here because I'd like to get a report as to how the city and the city council at large makes the decision to what neighborhoods get parking permits and what neighborhoods do not. Now, in particular myself, I live in 15th And Harrison, Fife is my representative, however, I don't know how long I'm gonna be able to support her because my community is getting nothing from this office in the sense of I've lived here three years, I've got $6,900 worth of tickets in front of my house as well as my daughter 2,400 and nowhere else in the city. Why is that?

Now you tow my car because I'm up for this towing eligibility, I've lost my vehicle. My vehicle is gone. I don't have 6,900. They've already taken one of my cars, forced me to get emergency hearing with the magistrate up at Eastmont. I had to appeal to the logic and the goodness of what's right to that magistrate for her to offer me an amnesty program that is apparently here, where I have to give up the car and the tickets go away.

Alright. So I lost one car that way. Now I have another car. My daughter lives with me, fixed income combat veteran. Everybody lives in my building is Section 8 and this and that. The poorest among us and we have ticket people like with attitudes ticketing us every day. We can't come down every two two hours and this needs to stop because I've I've I've complained over a year and a half now. It's the first time I've come to this part and I need answers and I need this to go away because I need my car. So that's what I have at this time but I'd like to speak.

Matt, are you in the room? Can you can you connect with the gentleman and help him connect to the parking division and council member Fife's office? Thank you.

I would like to see a growing problem be dealt with. We have throughout the city, city trash cans. These trash cans have been now been identified as places to put illegal dumping. So, besides the can being used, the individuals are putting pieces of furniture and other illegal dumping at those sites. And, near my spot, which is Keller And Mountain, they had to remove the city trash can in order to discourage the misuse.

I'm also concerned about the continued effort to get Mr. Ort Shanks renaming of the streets as indicated by a city ordinance actually happening. I'm also hoping that the encampment policy, the area of the policy that I'm really concerned about is this new dynamic of people who are homeless encamping in front of people's homes. And, in front of their homes, you have human waste, complete lack of accessibility to the sidewalk, and misuse of the property. Parking in this garage is a phenomenal effort because it's not enough parking.

Sometimes, a lot of times they have to close the garage down. But, they are compact spaces that are being used with large vehicles which limp Sometimes, I can't even get in my car because the space is so confined. And, we need to do something about that. Biking lanes throughout the city, protective lanes, non protective lanes, how that's determined. The double parking in Chinatown is never addressed.

The Lake Merritt parking with the flexibility of schedules, how is that working? Could you put my mic on? Because he's here, I can speak. Thank you. We are now concentrating on developments, housing developments, with no parking. The example is High Street in MacArthur, a very good housing space, but little or no parking, and it's being recommended that the former Walgreens on High become a new development with no parking. And, this no parking is gonna create tremendous issues. We need to address that.

Thank you.

That concludes our public speaker's Friday too.

Alright. Do we have anything from staff or other council members for the pending list? Council member Gao.

Okay. Thank you. Yes. What what I'd like to do is have our our directors of public works bring back the item of replacing or or having more vehicles available for our employees to do the work. I know that they've come here before asking for more support, financial support to buy more trucks and other service vehicles, And I like to see that item come back to see what the city can do to make sure that that our employees have the opportunity and the and the tools necessary to to get the work done.

And I know we have an item about mechanics repairing vehicles, but if you go down to the Public Works Yard on Colosseum Way or in Edgewater, you're gonna see many old, old vehicles from police vehicles and city vehicles that need to be repaired or replaced. And I'd like to see that item come back to the council. Thank you.

Please bring that through rules committee and schedule if you'd like a report. Thank you.

Yeah. I would like to also have something scheduled just on illegal dumping. I think we've had some good conversations in closed session but I also think depending on what our director of public works is willing to share, I think there's some important things that we've learned that the public also deserves to know. And some recent reporting too.

Alright. Please bring that through the rules committee if you'd like an official report. Thank you. Do we have a motion to move the pending list?

So moved.

Second. Thank you, Rev. A motion made by council member Gallo, seconded by council member Wong to accept the termination of schedule outstanding committee items as is on roll. Council member Gallo? I will I will let you in the queue. Thank you. Council member Houston? Aye. And council member Wong? Aye.

And chair Unger? Aye. The motion passes with four ayes to accept the termination of scheduled outstanding committee items as is. Moving to item three. Adopt a resolution awarding a contract to the w w Williams Company LLC to the sole responsive and responsible offer obtained by the open market per o m c two zero four zero five zero j.

The formal calls for the business specific specification number 2592800 to provide Allison Transmission, parts and repairs in the amount not to exceed $750,000 per year for a five year term, November 1525 to 11/15/2030. So the total amount not to exceed 3,750,000 over a five year term and two, waiving the local and small local business enterprise program utilization requirement and three, making appropriate California Environmental Quality Act findings. And you do have one speaker for this item.

Alright. Why don't we hear from, our public speaker first?

Moving to our public speaker.

If you're not ready, we can hear from staff first. Okay. Let's hear from staff first.

Thank you, Chair Unger, council members, Richard Badersby, assistant director, Oakland Public Works. Before you today, whoever requests to approve a contract with W. W. Williams in the amount of $750,000 for five years, not to exceed $3,750,000 and to waive the local business, local small business enterprise program utilization requirement. W.

W. Williams performs repair and maintenance and parts sourcing for Allison heavy duty transmissions. This is a specialized component. It's pretty much the standard in the industry for heavy duty vehicles, including fire apparatuses. And we have about 100 vehicles in the city fleet that use these Allison transmissions.

We're frequently forced to outsource repairs because we don't have the internal capacity or we may lack the expertise to perform these specialized repairs on transmissions. And lately, the equipment services is running about 60% staffing, so we've been seeing an increase in outsourcing due to just simply not having the individuals on the shop floor to perform it. We've requested a contract in the amount of $750,000. We don't expect to hit that, cap, but we wanted to request extra funding so we would not have to come back to council to increase the contract if we did exceed a lower capacity and then we had pending repairs to fire apparatuses. We made extensive outreach efforts to get local small business participation.

In addition to the standard advertising venues, we reached out specifically to four local and seven non local vendors that we thought would be interested in bidding on the RFQ. We didn't get any responses to the initial RFQ, but then the buyer went out and directly negotiated. We did get one responsive bid and that was W. W. Williams.

They are somewhat local. They're located in Hayward, which is good. We'd love to have, an Oakland based vendor provide these services, but despite our best efforts, we were unsuccessful. So we are here, to request approval of this contract as a, necessary function to keep the city's fleet operational and on the fleet, including fire apparatuses. And I'm here available for any questions.

Council member Houston. Good morning.

Good morning to the chair. Nice talking to you in the elevator about the weather. Question. Is this their first time getting the contract? And if so, who did we use prior to this? Just ask answer that question first through the chair.

Sure. Through the chair. I'm not a 100% certain. I believe we'd used this vendor previously, but I'd have to confirm that and get back to you.

Okay. Yeah. I need to know those type of questions because, if they've had this contract and this is for five years. Correct?

Through the chair. That's correct.

Okay. Whoever had it prior. And you said we haven't been able to find anyone that to that has the capacity. And what triggers me is when we always wave in this small local business, why don't we build the capacity? I mean if somebody had this, have we ever okay. I'm gonna ask another question through the chair. How long have we been needing this service?

Through the chair, I've been here eleven years. Allison Transmission's been the industry standard, but thirty years I've been in the industry, so I suspect the need's been there for thirty years. And there may be some, proprietary aspects that, as far as parts and being a servicing, dealer or vendor. But I'm looking at the list of companies that we reached out to. It doesn't appear to be dealership or licensing issue.

Okay. Through the chair. And this is where it's called building capacity. And this is not to you. This is just open to everyone. It's called building capacity. On when I was on the other side, and this is through the chair and the whole everyone in here. When I was on the other side as just a regular person before I was elected, twenty five years ago we've been saying the same thing. The same thing. Contractors.

We don't have the skill sets. When is enough enough? It it it it it disturbs me. It troubles me. When I have children in the street that could build skill sets that need embracement, that need fatherless like I was, right? That need those individuals or need those skill sets. Thirty years we've been going outside and not building the capacity and this is not to you. This is to the whole city of Oakland. This is to the machine. We gotta stop waving.

Why do we have it, small local, if we're gonna continue to waive it? It makes no sense. And and my cousin Daryl Carey that passed away, he said, if you're not angry now, when will you get angry? I am angry. So I'm gonna say this is not to you.

It's not to you. I just have to express it, put it on the record because I'm gonna take it to higher level, to a very higher level because I'm tired of my Latino brothers and sisters dying. I'm tired of my black brothers and sisters dying on the street when we're sending millions and millions of dollars outside of our city to Hayward, to Concord, to Chicago. So in closing, thank you for your service. I just had to share that and put it on the record.

If I may, through the chair, council member Houston, I couldn't agree with you more. I wish there was more I could do in my role to expand and increase, small business participation, skills training. In this particular aspect in our industry, I think the local small business is applicable, for larger projects, construction, some of the maintenance and repair around facilities where you might sub out a crew. But it's very unusual in the automotive repair industry to have that sub opportunity that would allow us to bring in more participation from local small business. And I I would point out that something like Allison Transmission Repair requires a significant investment, not just for inventory and training and all that, but the heavy duty vehicles that, these Allison transmissions are in require a larger repair facility.

And unfortunately, the nature of the industry has been such that with the property values going up, these larger automotive and vehicle repair facilities end up being utilized for other sources or other activities. So we're seeing a dwindling amount of vendors that can provide the service and a high cost to buy in to get into the industry. But if there's anything that the city can do, I I mean, we're happy to do it. We try to, train youth. We try to bring up, service workers, the technicians to learn how to work on these things.

And I would as much as I hate losing staff, I would love to see some of our employees go out into Oakland and start this local small business. So council member Houston, let's work together if you have ideas. If I have an idea, let's let's continue this outside of the public works and transportation committee.

Council member Houston, are you continuing? Can we switch the mic so he can continue?

Oh, okay. I thought you were gonna follow-up. Okay. So I'm You know, I I understand what you're saying, but it's not about what you say, it's what you do. Alright. Look. Look. Oakland's been going through many challenges. We sit here, talk, complain, and at the end of the day, it's up to this council. Alright? You've been in the cleaning business for years. You've seen it. You're still doing it. You're just still short. That's right.

I mean, you get large contracts from the state and the city and all that other stuff. Okay? You've been at this for a while, but what I'm trying to as an example, Public Works has been here a number of times asking for more vehicles to get the work done in the neighborhood. And the reality is we had budgeted 10 mechanics, but they were never hired, previously in the previous years. And we're short of mechanics because, you know, I know some of the mechanics and they're retiring.

They're getting out of Oakland. They're like the police, they're leaving Oakland and so forth. So he's short of mechanics. Go by and visit his yard in Edgewater. You're see all the vehicles sitting there that need to be serviced and replaced.

Right? From the police to the fire to public works. Then you go to the coliseum at the other end that I see daily, trucks have been sitting there for a long time that we can be using to have a clean city. So the bottom line for me is that the administration and this council, we need to be able to award the contract to get the the vehicles repaired. Otherwise, we're gonna be sitting here complaining every day about, well, the trash didn't get picked up.

Somebody scammed the front of my house. Nobody comes to see it. And and then I got homeless from San Jose and San Francisco coming in by the roads. I see them every morning. And yet, where's Oakland at? Well, we're we're sit talking to each other complaining. Alright? And you see it I mean, look at the I'm on top of Caltrans right now, but but the bottom line, we I'm gonna make a motion to support this item. We need to get those vehicles repaired so our employees can get out there and do the job that they were hired to do. Because certainly, you know, we can work on the longer scope in terms of identifying other local vendors that can provide the service.

But right now, we have an emergency in this city. And we need to get the the city back in a in an order like it used to be growing up here in Oakland that we can attract people and and and support our children and families because right now that's becoming a norm. Our kids grew up seeing that trash on the street in front of the it's a norm. That's oh, it's like when I grew up here, killing each other became a norm. Oh, you didn't kill each other a 150 this year?

Oh, what happened? And so it was taught for us as a norm having a 140 plus murders every year. And and growing up here in Oakland, in East Oakland. So I think, you know, we need to get the the vehicles repaired, back on the street, get the job done, make sure that this city's an attractive location. And, so I make a motion to approve staff's recommendation to to get our vehicles repaired so we can use them. If not, they're just sitting in the yard waiting for someone to get it done. Thank you. Mick, thank you.

So I do agree. We just we need to get the work done. I wanna thank council member Gaye for showing me around that yard a couple months ago. Think my question is if we approve this, should we see actually an increase in service delivery from from the public Works Department or is this maintaining the level of service we have now?

Yeah. Through the chair, this is just to maintain the current level of service. If the contract is not approved, you can expect the service to actually decline until we find another option.

So how do we improve things? What are your thoughts on that?

Through the chair. First thing we do is, fill the vacancies, the actual, folks that do the work, the technicians, mechanics and service workers. The second thing is probably a longer term strategy, but it's equally as important. We have to start decreasing the age of the city fleet, and the only way we can do that is through regular replacements. Since July 2023, when fleet replacement was decentralized, we've only purchased five replacement vehicles and four of those were through the sewer division, which is an enterprise fund.

So the existing vehicles are getting older. They're breaking down more frequently and we're finding that parts are becoming unavailable. We've got over a 120 Ford Crown Victorias, in OPD active use patrol vehicles. That Crown Victoria platform was discontinued in 2013. We're having difficulty finding parts. So we need to make a decision now to regularly replace these vehicles as they age or this problem will continue to get worse even if we fill every vacant mechanic position.

Okay. Thank you for articulating that. And then around this specific contract, do you from your perspective, why did we only get one bidder for this?

Through the chair, we get a variety of reasons, from vendors. The city has a reputation for being slow to pay. Registering to do business with the city is sometimes an onerous undertaking, especially for small businesses. Lately, we've been hearing from vendors that the insurance requirements are much more stringent in Oakland than they are with other municipalities they do business for. And frankly, maybe the most important factor is vendors have a choice now.

They pretty much have all the work that they can manage. So they can pick and choose who their customers are. So municipalities, it's not just Oakland, municipalities end up lower on the list, because private industry, pays better and they turn around. They need the vehicles turned around, immediately. I'm thinking like UPS, FedEx. We compete with them for external vendors and we're having a tough time as our other municipalities.

Okay. Understood. My concern when we have only one vendor is are we holding how are we holding this vendor if we do move forward with this to account? Like do we have like a performance standard that we're expecting of them like this many vehicles are going to get repaired? Like do we have it written out that what the expectations are?

Through the chair, don't have that type of performance metric. We do monitor vehicles as they're out of service and we keep track how long they're at the vendors and we do try to encourage them to turn around vehicles quickly. And just to clarify, although this vendor specializes in transmission repair, specifically Allison Transmission, we have multiple other vendors that we can send heavy equipment to who perhaps can perform work on Allison, but it's not their primary specialty. So we have other vendors that we can rely on. W. W. Williams won't be the only vendor that we're sending heavy duty vehicles to, but they will probably be our primary Allison Transmission related, repair or maintenance vendor.

Okay. I would just request if I may that we find ways to just because this is taxpayer money that we're holding our contractors accountable to performance standards and but otherwise I second the motion because as well stated we need to get the work done.

Council member Houston.

Yes. I'm not sure if my statement got misunderstood or not but I wasn't stating that we're trying to hold back this contract. What I'm stating is that we have to add certain things and elements to contracts like mentorship. If we had mentorship thirty years ago with individuals knowing how to fix these transmissions and this equipment. Exactly what council member Noel Gayle said was those individuals could be in the yard fixing them now.

That's what I'm saying. Right? And when we talk about, mentoring individuals, yes, I mentored individuals. I mentored the young man that has million dollar contracts with the city that now with plumbing, doing plumbing, I mentored a guy that was six years old. Now he has a contract.

He's 30 years old now, has contracts with Oakland Unified School District, did a part of Fremont High. Right? So I know it can be done from my personal experience and I'm not saying that we not not to actually give this individual this company to contract. What I'm saying is let's think outside the box. Let's think long range.

What in that contract says that they they they can mentor some young men or young women in our city so five years from now, they can fix those vehicles in the yard that council member Noel just spoke about. And council member Wang spoke about where they don't have to go outside or some of them can be repaired. I'm talking about long range. Think long range. And this is not to you. This is just for the record. Right? We have to give back to the city that we work for. Right? And that's all what I'd like to share. So thank you.

Okay. We've got a motion and a second. Let's go to our public speaker unless anyone else has anything.

Calling in our public speaker for item three, miss Asada.

Related specifically to this item, did anybody ask for the source of funding for this? You have to ask that question. This is a couple of million dollars. Related to the $700,000 per year estimate, how many vehicles would be covered under that 700? How many transmissions could be repaired?

And is that sufficient to actually cover what potentially has been the need for repairs? So are we dealing with partial repair or totally dealing with everything? Now, related to the discussion you just had, you need to get with OUSD. OUSD's career pathway is college. They are not preparing these young people for non college careers, except at Fremont there is some initiative around construction.

At McClymond's, they are the career pathway is engineering. You have to have calculus to do engineering, and most of our students, 80% of them are reading two or three grade levels below. Waste of time. The average young person graduating from college today doesn't make as much money as an electrician or a plumber. They're making more money.

And, we are not preparing young people for those jobs. So, you need to get with OUSD and have them rethink their career pathway initiative to include some of these jobs like plumbing, electricians, auto mechanics. We used to have all of those things And, it used to be a major part of high school and now we've left it. So, with your partnership meeting, maybe you could put it on the agenda to discuss that. But we cannot just have a discussion. We gotta change the whole dynamics of how the system is working to create jobs and let

Thank you for your comment miss Asada. We have a motion made by council member Gallo, seconded by council member Wong to approve the recommendations of staff and afford this item to the October 21 city council agenda on consent. On roll, council member Gallo.

Aye.

Council member Houston. Aye. Council member Wang.

Oh, aye.

And chair Unger. Aye. Thank you. The motion passes with four ayes. To approve the recommendations of staff and to forward this item to the October 21 city council agenda on consent moving to open forum. When I call your name, please approach the podium. You do have three speakers, William, Miss Asada, and Samuel.

Thanks for having me back. But first of all, I'd like to thank the city administrator for taking the time to look into my issue because it's it's unattainable for myself and my neighborhood. But I'd also like to know what is the protocol coming from Mr. Ford's office to the employees that are these ticket agents and the attitudes they possess out here on the street. They are very confrontational as if they're ready to go and they're not working.

They're ready to they're cursing you. I've been cursed out. Absolutely. And and can someone tell me is it a new policy that ticket people in those vehicles that have the yellow lights. I thought you drive down the street and you stop at the car that you find that that doesn't have a parking ticket or meter, and then you give it to them, they're parking around the corner and they're walking up the street like civilians and sticking tickets on cars.

This seems not right. But where I'm concerned in my neighborhood, we need that parking permit situation because people are losing their cars and like I said, where I live, everybody is senior citizen type, fixed incomes and they don't have much but that little car they have means a lot to them. And you snatch it and then if you do have the money, we're going to the coliseum behind triple beam Constantine wire to these contractors that live in Hayward, Modesto, all these places were giving money to these people for what?

Really appreciate when every night we get a lot of people who come who don't normally come, and I respect that you take the time to go more in-depth to what their concerns are, and I hope there is true follow-up. I think it's going to sell well if people in this community come here and get results. They're going to have more faith in the system. Don't worry about me. I don't care if you listen to me or not, I'm a keep coming.

I am concerned about the encampment policy. I think the encampment policy came from the governor of California calling for each city to either look at their policy with encampments and to upgrade or do something to make sure that we could make our communities better. And the notion that if you put a policy in place it's an attack on homeless people. It's an effort to create public safety and health safety in your city. And it's not an attack on anybody.

It's a necessity that we do what is necessary to keep this city viable for everyone, including our homeless community. They they might not even realize the situation they're in when they're living in such deplorable conditions. But, again, I want to repeat myself, we have a dynamic of people who are encamping on, in front of people's homes. Remember the lady that came who talked about having to leave her house because she, she says this was a person who was living in the home, but the safety and the health and the schools, we're dealing with it. The illegal dumping, we're dealing with it.

Okay? The churches at Saint Benedict, we're dealing with it. So we got to get that policy.

Thank you.

Good morning, sir. It's not a real problem. I went to a trade school in Detroit, one of largest trade schools in the country. What what it was, it was a high school it's a high school and a trade school at the same time. It's a 10 story building, a six square block. We're six block here. You take three of these blocks and one block there. Down we had 20 some doors, two elevators. And put people to train him so he can go to work. He can go to work in his own city.

They ain't gotta leave the city to go to work. What he did was got a roof from the next door and he wanted the poor blacks to get their jobs to stay in their city. So they cut down these programs to get rid of us. And when you're walking around every day, you get bored alone, they gotta do idle mind that you're in trouble. That's a devil workshop. So y'all asking for Get them off the streets. Give them something to do. Build them up. You don't build a house from top down, you build a house bottom up. It's the wrong process. It's backwards. What you complain about? Because you ain't doing nothing about it. When you do something about it, stop complaining about it. So the children out there need our help.

And they said they're homeless. People at Lane College homeless. Every day. They only fix the elevator at Lane College. But that's our future. We're not putting nothing in our future so we're get nothing back. But, Trum, I'm serious. We need to do this. We started we picked. They washed their program away. Mandela Bridge, that's our project. I learned this being open or housing authority, all that stuff. But I didn't have no sense for a child to check-in here. I learned to grow. Only way she's gonna go is to bottom up.

This money on top gotta come down to the bottom. It has some price on it's a bottom up process. So somehow, the politicians get the money and don't get to the bottom. So what we gonna do about this? I'm with you and y'all.

That concludes your public speakers for open forum.

Anything from any of my colleagues? Council member Houston or Gaye?

To respond to the some of our speakers. So the the law or the practice here in Oakland, and I've done this a number of times, if not 20 times, if somebody is in your home, squattering in your home, moved into your home, the sheriff department is the is the department that'll come to your home and and give notice to whoever the squatter is, and they give them three days to get out of your home. But it's the sheriff's not the police department, it's the sheriff's department that'll do that, have the individuals removed. But if somebody's parking in front of your driveway, the police immediately will come to deal with that issue. Where if, you know, they're down the street or wherever, then the Department of Transportation.

Right? But if they're are if they're ticketing you, is this because there's street sweepers coming up? No? No parking signs at any time? Wow.

Yeah. And yeah. Okay. Okay.

Yeah. Okay.

Yeah.

Okay. So the other what what the other activity or the practice that has changed with Department of Transportation is in some of our streets, mine, we're repainting the red zones. And so they're going around reminding you that you can't park in a red zone in front of the bus stop or whatever. Then some of us here in my area, they're parking on the sidewalks. You can't park on the sidewalks so the weight of your car destroys the sidewalk. And we have many people that are doing that on Fruitvale and other streets. But I'd I'd be happy to see how we can help you with the issue you have. Thank you.

Thank you. I think I think we're not noticed for a public discussion on parking, so if you wanna have an offline conversation, that'd be great. Council member Wong, are you in the queue? Or Alright.

No. I'm good. Thanks.

I think we can adjourn this meeting. Thank you.