Office Of The City Administrator - Regular Meeting

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Life Enrichment Committee meeting for today, May 12. The time is now 04:11PM, and this meeting has come to order. Before taking roll, I will provide instructions on how to submit a speaker's card for items on items on this agenda. If you are here with us in chambers and you would like to submit a speaker's card, please fill one out and turn into a clerk representative, my left, your right, before the item is read into record. Online speaker requests were due twenty four hours prior to this meeting.

This meeting came to order at 04:11PM. Speaker cards will no longer be accepted ten minutes after meeting has began, making that time for twenty one PM. With that, we will now proceed to take roll. Council member Gaio?

Present.

Thank you. Council member Wong?

Present.

Excuse me. Council member Houston is excused. Thank you. And chair five.

Present.

And we have three members present, one excused. Houston going to our council member announcements. Council chair five, do you have any announcements for today?

Not at this time. Thank you.

Thank you. Our first order of the day is approval of the draft minutes from the committee meeting on March 3 and 04/21/2026. I'll entertain a motion. Thank you. We have a motion made by council member Gayo, seconded by council member Wong to accept the draft minutes of the committee meeting on March 3 and 04/21/2026 as is on roll. Council member Gaia? Aye. Thank you. Council member Wong?

Aye. Council

member Houston is excused, and chair five? Aye. We have three three ayes, one excused Houston. Moving to item two, determination to schedule outstanding committee items, noting council member Houston present at 04:13PM. And we do have one speaker for this item.

Okay. Thank you, madam city clerk. Before we take that public speaker, I would like to remove item three from the pending list, no date specific. It is the report on the city's official newspapers. City's newspapers.

Are there any other, changes from the city administration? Council member Gyle? On

the outstanding committees, madam chairperson, what I'd like to do maybe this is not the committee, but be be able to bring a a report on our cannabis operation here in the city of Oakland, considering it's a life enrichment issue. But at the same time, I wanna know financially the millions of dollars that are being generated, where are they going and how are they being spent within the city of Oakland? Because said when we established the system, it was for life enrichment services. Thank you. Yeah.

Thank you. Council member Gayle, are you working currently with anyone on that item yet?

No. Not yet. I I mean, the some of the commissioners came to me, been concerned that they don't have quorum to even meet, and yet some of the cannabis operations are doing other things besides cannabis. And we're not the permitting process that we used to have is not in order. And I was surprised to even hear from the individual that does the sign off that when it comes to the smoke the smoke shops that we have, it's the state of California that approves those and not the city. And so we need to put that in order and get it back so we can support these programs. Thank you.

Thank you, council member Gao. Council member Houston. Yes.

To the chair, I wanna support with no supervisor not supervisor. Council member Noel Gayle said, a 100% whatever I can do supervise I mean, council member is is to help you support you on this, I will do it. Because in my district, they're supposed to have a 50 foot beautification process not doing it. It's not what Desley had started. You know, she wanted that to be for the underprivileged and and us to get a piece of that.

It's not the same. Right? And this one in my district right now, breaking all the rules, didn't finish their permitting process, They didn't get their building permit properly, but and they got a stop work notice, and they continued. So count I'm I wanna call you count supervisor. That's what you should be, supervisor. So council member Gaio, I will support you a 100% on this.

So whatever you need

Council member Houston, if your policy staff could connect with council member Gaio's, I wanna avoid a quorum of this body. I think it's important to have that informational report come through. So if your policy staff can work with council member Gaio's we will. Should bring that item, and schedule it at rules. Thank you. I'll entertain a motion.

I'll make a motion. Second.

Calling in our public speaker, miss Asada. There

are communities in this city that I think deserve more attention. Seniors in this city are a large part of the population. We even have a commission who deals with issues around our seniors, but we don't bring it to this body. What are we doing that accommodates the needs and concerns of seniors? I'd like to see that addressed at some point.

The other group is our disability group. We also have a committee that serves to address the needs, and I'm saying committee, it's a city commission, of our disabled community. And we don't have any feedback to address anything other than what they're dealing with and, other than the annual report. We need more concentration on that. Another group, I don't know, foster youth, dealing with OUSD, they have some tremendous challenges.

And, victims, people who are victims, we can have services for them. I don't think that goes into public safety. I think it goes here in life enrichment because dealing with trauma in any form, being a victim of a crime, domestic violence, abuse of any kind, how we service if we can. The last thing I I'm concerned about our human services department. We made a decision to let our director go after a short period of time, and we have not had consistent leadership in that department for quite some time.

And I hope that we can produce evidence that the human service department is on task, particularly around areas of homelessness and head start. Thank you.

That concludes your public speakers for item two. We do have a motion made by council member Houston, seconded by council member Regallo to accept as amended the determination to schedule outstanding committee items with the amendments to withdrawing item three regarding the report on the city city's official newspaper under pending no date specific. On roll, council member Gaio?

Council member Houston? Aye.

Thank you. Council member Wong? Aye. And chair five? Aye. This motion does pass with four ayes to accept as amended determination to schedule outstanding committee items with the amendment stated on record. Moving to item three. Adopt a resolution authorizing a one year memorandum of understanding to the receipt of in kind services with DigitalLift for the digital literacy training and related service at Oakland Senior Center's value at a total amount not to exceed 67,502 authorizing the city administrator to accept additional services and extend the memorandum of understanding with four up to three additional years. And you do have three speakers.

Thank you, madam city clerk. If we could put three minutes on the clock, and I will ask if Jesse Carter is available to present. Outstanding.

Good afternoon, chair Fife and members of the life enrichment committee. My name is Jesse Cutter, and I'm the outreach developer for aging and adult services. I am here because human services would like to sign an MOU with Digital Lift. Digital Lift is a nonprofit organization formerly known as the Community Tech Network. The senior centers have hosted digital literacy classes with them before, and they were all well received.

We've worked with ITD to ensure security procedures are in place. DigitalLIF will provide basic digital training for four in person cohorts. They'll be two hours each for a total of sorry. For eight hour course, the classes will be in English and Mandarin. We'll also provide beyond the basic digital literacy training, and these will be in person, no income restrictions. Members bring their own devices, two hours for each training, and the classes will be in English and Mandarin. Sample trainings that have been offered in the past are password management, scam clickbait, misinformation, connecting to WiFi, Internet searching.

Thank you. Is that your full presentation?

That's my whole presentation.

Thank you. And it's it's critical because our seniors do tend to be targets of of these Internet scams. Mhmm. I just I need these services too. How old do you have to be to be considered a senior? I need support. Do I have comments from the body before we take our public speakers? Council member Gaia.

What what are the numbers of seniors, in the city Of Oakland? Does anyone have that? Usually, we would get that information.

Around 68,000.

68,000 in the city of Oakland?

25% of the population. Okay.

And the fastest growing population in City Of Oakland. Power to the seniors. Council member he's council member Guy, are you complete?

Yes. Thank you.

Council member Houston?

How's it working? Okay. Good. Through the chair. I'm a Mandaram in English. What about my Spanish speaking family?

At this time, they don't have an instructor to do Spanish. We've hosted Spanish in the past, and we didn't have many attendance. That is something that we're working on growing to make sure

that we have the audience for the classes.

Okay. And how do we get, like, the results? I know you guys, they're doing a great job, but I wanna get some results. Even though I know it's in kind, we still wanna find out the results and see how it's been helping our seniors because let me tell you, I love my seniors at the East Oakland Sports Center.

Yes.

So yeah.

It's in the MOU that they will do an afterward evaluation, and

we'll get that data and that information to share with you.

Okay. Thank

you. Council member Wong. Thanks.

If this is being offered in Mandarin and Cantonese, I hope there's WeChat specific, like, scam avoidance. I'm I'm actually curious if there is that.

I do believe there is. When they do, they they'll do it in sections and like they'll have a specific topic. Well they have in the past. They'll have a specific topic on how to use WeChat. So they'll do it on how to use YouTube. So they'll do platform specific as well as general misinformation as well.

Okay. Great. And thanks also for, ensuring that this program is multilingual. I appreciate that. And with that, I'll make a motion to, adopt the staff recommendation.

Thank you for that motion. We will hear from our public speakers. I believe we have three on this item, and then we'll, I'll entertain a second.

When I call your name, please approach the podium. If you're participating via Zoom, please raise your hand so you're easily identified. Blair Beakman, missus Sada, and David Boatwright.

David Boatwright. I commend Digital Lift for offering the senior center services at no cost to the city. Hopefully, they will be successful, among other benefits, at helping seniors avoid Internet fraud. I also hope that they will be able to improve their twenty eight percent participant completion rate for their prior such program.

So I just wanna throw in that word literacy. When I first started saw it, I said, woah, god. We we don't realize how many people are not reading, are capable of reading. Oakland OUSD, seventy percent of the students are reading at below grade level. And it's not just reading, it's reading comprehension.

So you you might show a person how to read something on on the Internet, but the comprehension capacity. I can speak to my deficiency. When I read something, I have to read it several times, and then it clicks, after that. But I would like to have the capacity to problem solve, when I I'm on the, Internet because when something glitches I don't know what to do. So is that a part of the problem process as it stands at this point? Problem solving on the Internet or just when it's working perfectly, how to use it? Nope. Don't answer. Nope. You can't talk to me.

Don't answer. Stop. I do that sometimes to throw y'all off, but you can't you're not you can't throw it. And the last thing is, the number of participants in the report. I saw sixty and nine numbers. What is the actual number that can be accommodated with this present opportunity for seniors?

Moving to our Zoom speaker, Blair, you may unmute yourself and begin your comment.

Hi. Good evening. Thanks for this item. It sounds like a good one. I'm always trying to figure out ways that Internet use can be more accessible to people who don't understand it.

Like me, believe it or not. It's been quite a journey for me to better understand Internet life, broadband ideas. And the work I do with tech accountability, I feel, really helps that process. I think teaching our young people and our elders the ideas of responsible practices and that they can have a voice in our technology, in our community, in our placement. And it's just that, I think, makes the whole process less intimidating, you know, and that's what we really need.

And what we're really trying to go for, I think, is how can the technology process be less intimidating to everyone and not fearful. So I like tech accountability, and I really like this item what you're working towards and what it's trying to address. And good luck in how to consider tech accountability practices in in our teaching lessons that I think can be of help. And, yeah, they provide they provide and make whole process feel safer, basically. So good luck, what you can do, and and thank you for this item.

That concludes your public speakers' item three.

Before I entertain a second on this item, I do have another couple questions for Jesse just based on what we heard from the public speakers. What is the total capacity for this program, and does the literacy training include understanding what happens if things just glitch and, like, break down?

Great questions. There'll be 40 for each type of training. So 40 for the basic digital literacy training and 40 for the basic digital literacy sorry. Beyond the basics, 40 for each. And then within each category, there is problem solving. So for the how to access the Internet, there is problem solving built into that. And then when it's platform specific in the past, right, we haven't set the topics for this yet. But in the past when we've done, like, intro to YouTube, there was problem solving for that.

Thank you for that. And I wanna say to mister Beakman, if you're still listening, we're having trouble with your connection. So maybe on the next upcoming items, you can do some digital literacy with your Internet connection. Mister Houston council member Houston, you have the floor.

Just real quick to the chair. Their name was Community Tech Network prior. Why did they change their name? And do we have results from when they did it, Community Tech Network? Because now it's Digital Lift. Right?

Jesse, is that something you can answer?

I can't answer why they changed their name, but I can answer that in April 2025, we completed four series of four workshops. They were held in English and Mandarin. There was 98 unique learners, and 20 of seven of them completed the full series. And then I have series topics. I don't have any of the evaluation information, though.

Okay.

Is that something that will be collected this time?

Yes. It's in the MOU for us to collect this time.

Council member Houston, you're good. I'll entertain a second. Thank

you. We have a motion made by council member Wong, seconded by council member Houston to approve the recommendations of staff and forward this item to the May nineteenth city council agenda on roll. Council member Gaiau? Aye. Council member Houston? Aye. Council member Wong? Aye. And chair Fife? Aye. This motion does pass with four ayes to approve the recommendations of staff and afford this item to the May nineteenth city council agenda through the body. Would that be consent?

Council member Wong, you made the motion. Consent, nonconsent. It's unanimous. So

Thank you. Moving to item four. Adopt a resolution authorizing city administrator to sign and execute an agreement with the California Department of Health Care Services and its third party administrator related to the California providing access and transforming health, capacity infrastructure transition, expansion, and development, program intergovernmental, excuse me, transfer, award the implement of CalAIM Ready Oakland project and deliver enhanced care management and community supports high need Medi Cal population in Oakland. Two, accepting and appropriating the past cited IGT award in an amount not to exceed $1,351,113.75, which requires nonfederal local share equal to 50% of the award, and three, authorizing the city to commit the required nonfederal local share equal to the 50% of total DHCS IGT award in amount of $675,556.75 in order to draw down the corresponding federal match from DHS, and you do have three speakers.

Thank you for that, madam clerk. I will ask for five minutes on the clock. And, Anna, please step up. You have the floor.

Good afternoon, chair Fife and members of the Life Enrichment Committee. My name is Anna Bactes, human services manager overseeing the aging and adult services division in the human services department. I'm here today to present the resolution authorizing Oakland to accept an appropriate approximately $1,350,000 from California Department of Health Care Services for this path cited funding to implement the Cal AIM Ready Oakland project. The path cited funding will allow the city to establish Cal AIM, enhance case care management and community support services for Medi Cal residents in Oakland including seniors at risk of institutionalization, adults 25 years and older who are currently unhoused or at risk of becoming unhoused due to high utilization of health and mental health services, and other residents with complex medical and social needs who frequently utilize hospitals and emergency departments. Importantly, this initiative is intended to position Oakland for long term sustainability beyond the PAP cited funding period.

The goal is for the city to establish the infrastructure, care coordination systems and operational capacity necessary to eventually contract directly with managed care plans such as Kaiser and Alameda Alliance for ongoing reimbursement and sustainable funding for these services and for the clients that we generate from this program. Accepting this funding will allow Oakland to take a more active and visible role in the CalAIM and managed care space while strengthening the city's ability to coordinate services for its most vulnerable residents. The funding will also allow the city to open enrollment to additional eligible clients that the city currently does not have the capacity to serve due to existing funding limitations. By expanding care coordination capacity and establishing reimbursable CalAIM services, Oakland will be better positioned to reach more residents who qualify for enhanced case management and community supports but are not currently connected to these services. I also wanna emphasize that the required city match is already substantially met through existing human services department staffing funded through current city allocations including general fund dollars.

These are care managers that are already serving residents that may qualify for CalAIM services that I described. Rather than creating a new workforce or new service structure, the city is strategically deploying existing care managers and care coordination staff to formalize and expand work that is already occurring with eligible Medi Cal clients. In alignment with the Cal Aim enhanced care management and community supports model, the path cited funding will also allow the city to further develop a community health worker workforce. These are individuals with lived experience and are connected deeply to the communities and clients who are trying to serve through these programs. Community health workers will support outreach, enrollment, engagement, and follow-up activities helping clients remain connected to services while also supporting lead care managers and freeing up their time to focus on implementation and fulfillment of individualized care plans.

These are care managers who are already working directly with vulnerable Oaklanders that may be eligible for Cal Aim services. Because these are Medi Cal eligible populations, the city is also able to draw down and claim Medi Cal administrative activities funding associated with care coordination and related services. This allows Oakland to maximize outside reimbursement opportunities while strengthening services we are already providing. So this resolution is really about leveraging existing city capacity to bring sustainability more sustainably more state and federal resources into Oakland's care delivery systems. The resolution does three things.

First, it authorizes the city administrator to execute the agreement with the department of health care services and its third party administrator. Second, it accepts and appropriates a total project amount of approximately $1,350,000 which reflects a fifty fifty funding partnership between the state for the federal match matching funds and the city's required local share contribution. And third, it authorizes the required local match of approximately 675,000 in order to draw down the full federal participation available through the program. I also wanna clarify the composition of the local match because it is important to note that these are not not all general fund dollars. And even the general fund component is not entirely new money.

Much of the value is tied to existing staff salaries and ongoing work already being performed by city employees serving these populations. In other words, this resolution allows the city to strategically use existing investments to unlock additional state and federal funding, improve coordination of care, expand access to eligible residents, and strengthen Oakland's health and social service supports for the highest needy population. Staff respectfully recommends adoption of the resolution by moving it to the city council for approval on consent at a future meeting. Meeting. Thank you for your support, and I'm happy to answer questions.

Thank you. We'll go ahead and take public speakers if there are not any initial, council public speakers, please. Thank you. Blair

Blair Beakman, Miss Asada, and David Boatwright.

David Boatwright. This appears to be the fourth and final segment of this program with funding ending at the end of twenty twenty six. And as a result of that, the question arises, are these funds already in the budget for the year ending in at the end of June and next fall? Because there won't be any funds after that. And another thing is there's a statement on the top of Page five that's not very favorable, but it's recommended that performance evaluation be performed on this funding once it's completed.

In the report, it says it wasn't required and it won't be done. And the last thing is I hope this is not an example of what happened after COVID and all these funds from outside the city were flooding in and helping us out. And people become used to getting these funds. And if the funding from outside stops, we won't be able to do something like this. Thank you.

Here here again is where your sanctuary city status can be considered a problem. There's no way that the amount of money that's being allocated right now can cover everybody. You have to have a method of deciding who is gonna be able to be access to these funds and this capacity to get health needs addressed. But you don't address it based on you are a citizen of this country. People that come here and don't have legal status to be here can get in front of you to deal with the needs that you are citizens should have first priority, but that's not the way you do it.

And I don't know if anybody thinks that's okay, but it's not okay. People who are citizens of this country deserve to be in line first. And anybody else who you identify that needs help, they can get behind us. But you don't do that. So legitimate citizens of this country are being denied the opportunity to have health care issues addressed because you are giving that opportunity to people in this country illegally, and you're not gonna address it.

Thank god I'm not in that position because I would be raising more hell. But you at some point have to stop this initiative of replacing citizenship with community because it doesn't work all the time. Replacing residency with citizenship, it doesn't work all the time. But you I'm sorry. My time's up. Okay. I got so

No. You're

not. Address sanctuary cities disproportionately impact on citizens of Oakland?

Blair Beakman, please unmute yourself and begin your comment.

Hi.

Blair Beakman. Thank you very much for the words of council person five previously. I was sitting in a nice, you know, building in a lobby. You know? I thought my reception would be really good. I'm sorry. It wasn't. I'm sitting outside now. Hopefully, will be okay. I I thought this item was gonna be about issues around the PATH agency that just finds housing for people, and it was somehow related, but I'm getting the sense it's not.

But nice public comment from David Boatwright. I'm concerned about our era of COVID funding and how we transition from that era into regular funding again. And it takes a lot to do that, to figure that out, and I wish we had more sense to do that. I thank you immensely in Oakland that with the massive deficits that you have, you're still trying to promote and still trying to offer social services. You're working really well that people can be taken care of and even in tough budget times that we're in.

Like I keep saying, I'm in San Diego, we're going for austerity, it's how to answer our budget questions, and it hurts. And you guys, you do a great job that even with deficit issues, you're still trying to work on social services. And so this is the sort of item that can be of a lot of help that David Boatwright said. What happens when the funding goes away? That's the sadness. Man, good luck how we really build sustainability. It's really the time to start developing sustainability, out of the era of COVID that we were all talking about before COVID. We were really talking about, you know, really important practices of of maintaining social services. It's now the time to really start working towards it. So thank you for this item.

Good luck on your efforts.

Thank you, mister Beekman, for those comments. Your connection is much better now. I will, give the floor to council member Wong, but, miss Bactis, I would appreciate if you could speak to what happens when these funds run out and what is the plan for that. Before you answer that, you could council member Wong, you have the floor.

Oh, sure. Thanks council member Fife, third chair Fife. So I find this proposal to be really interesting actually and I just want to make sure I understand what is really before us. So this will allow us to build up our systems to actually, if I'm understanding this correctly we're not only getting this federal grant that is worth $675,000 or state federal grant but it will also allow us to bring in even more funding for homelessness and all these things because we will be building out our billing infrastructure to bill Medicaid, Medi Cal essentially. Okay.

Do you have a sense of how much more this stands to reimburse based off of our, the variety of services that we have?

Sure, sure. Let me address your question and then I'm going go back to the sustainability because that's a very important question. So this program, the structure of it when we got funded, first last year we got funded by the Department of Healthcare Services for technical assistance to actually understand our current state of services for case management. Because Cal AIM under this program is very prescriptive because it's under the managed care plan. So we have no idea whether or not Oakland will be able to meet these requirements under CalAIM.

So the initial funding support that we receive from the state is for technical assistance so that we can bring in a consultant to help us see where we are and then get us to the point where we are poised to be able to contract with managed care plans. So we've been working with the consulting company through the senior services coalition for the last year and we are very close. We're actually at the point now where we are putting together our application to be a certified Medi Cal provider for Cal AIM. So part of that is putting policies and procedures together in alignment with Cal AIM, looking at our workflow to make sure that it is in line with how the CAL AIM program model is expecting us to do. There's also a very strict evaluation component because CAL AIM really stands for advancing and improving or Innovating Medi Cal by incorporating social service needs and supporting the social services.

As you all know, Medi Cal used to be historically looking at the medical needs of individuals. But they realize that folks fall through the crack when they leave the hospital because people need transportation, access to food, socialization, all of those, those are all called social determinants of health. And Cal AIM is putting social determinants and healthcare together and that's what we are providing. That's why I think Oakland through the human services department is really the appropriate agency that can bring that service and then bring in the health component to it because we're already doing that. So I think we're very ready to really get on CalAim.

Now this is going to go into, bleed into the other question about sustainability. Once we are certified as a provider through Cal AIM for enhanced case care management and community supports, then it becomes a sustainable per member per month reimbursement from the health plan like Kaiser or Alameda Alliance. And while this funding is only available until the end of the calendar year 2025, I think by then we would have experience already in the, you know, by probably in the next four months, five months once we start actually seeing clients to be ready to shift over to the funding under Medi Cal. So this funding through the Department of Healthcare Services for the cap side is sort of like a infrastructure funding to help us get to a point where we can then be released and then move the same clients that we're serving, move them into reimbursement rate through the Medi Cal program from either Kaiser or Alameda alliance. And that's what's going to be sustainability.

That's where it's going to bring sustainability to the program and through depends on how we negotiate the contract but it's in the neighborhood of, you know, somewhere like 400 or more per member per month. So, you know, and it's a lot of the services we're already providing. So this is an opportunity again for Oakland to be reimbursed for these services that we're already providing. I hope that answers the question

Yes, about no it does which is why I think this is a really smart proposal. And then the other question I have is just have you had conversations with the county like since they are the primary healthcare system, how is this going to interact with that? That?

Good question. Part of this care management under enhanced care management through CAL AIM is the coordination of services. And that means that we have to be able to put together a system that's called closed loop. Meaning like a client enters any one of our agencies and then if we decide that we all want to work together to provide services and wrap around this particular high need, high utilizing client, then by working together, we need to make sure that somewhere in that system they don't fall. And with that, you need a really advanced way of coordinating.

So we are working actually with Alameda Alliance and the county through their public health department on how we can coordinate services for a client together. And that system, and this is why I think it's exciting to be a part of this, we are really looking at different models from other communities where they're already doing this. And key component of that system is the electronic record sharing. So we're going to be working with, of course, the city attorney's office and every ITD on what kind of infrastructure. Again that that that's work that's been happening with the county through their social health information exchange for some time now.

And so being integrated into that will be important because we do serve the same clients.

That makes sense and I would also urge, I think if this can go beyond just the human services department like macro is a program that I think has opportunities for reimbursement and cost recovery if as part of this planning they can be considered as part of this. And then also my understanding is CALIM could actually fund because I do think we need to find more ways to fund homelessness services. Is it to be able to fund? Is it housing, addiction treatment? What's kind of the variety of

services Yes. That they can Under CAL AIM there are many, it's almost like a menu of services. We decided to start with two that are very familiar and comfortable for us because this is new to us. We've been doing case management for a long time in human services so we know that enhanced care management will be a shoe in for us. The other piece is the community supports.

We have senior centers and a place for folks to come to for education, for nutrition, all of those under community supports. We have the infrastructure and the, well, we have the building available that we can also utilize to bring those services in and bring revenues to the senior centers as well to be able to support the operations. So these are all part of kind of really looking at how we can leverage what we have and also kind of braiding and blending some of these different funding sources to maximize the return.

Okay. Makes sense. I'll make a motion to adopt staff recommendation. Council member Gayle?

Commission, can you share that, who's eligible for the program? Yes. What age group? And do I have to live in Oakland or in the Alameda County? Who's eligible?

So the eligibility is actually determined by the health plan. So people can come to us two ways. One, the health plan because they see, they have records of how many people are coming in and out, cycling in and out of the emergency department for instance. Or they always review utilization. That's a big thing for hospitals and health plans.

And when they look at these patients and they determine, I think this patient can use an enhanced care management, they will funnel. So they will funnel the clients to us, then we will accept, then we start working with the client, we start reimbursement. Or we go out there and do outreach and because we have a eligibility requirement, very strict, again dictated by the health plans, anybody from any walks of life if they're eligible based on the criteria, then we will go to the health plan and say we would like to work with these folks. They will approve them and then we start working with them.

Okay. Thank you. Sure.

Council member Gao, was that a second? Did you offer a second to Charlotte? Council member Houston.

Yeah. Just one question or two. They don't have to be from Oakland?

They don't have to be from Oakland, but our our focus is Oakland. Oakland residents who are eligible for the for the Medi Cal program.

So so the third party where it says third party administrator relation to the California what's the third party mean?

Yeah. So the department of health care health care services works with an entity. They're we don't work with them directly, but we work with a with a third party entity that does all of these contracting for Medi Cal Cal Aim.

Okay.

Thank you. We have a motion made by council member Wong, seconded by council member Gallo to approve the recommendations of staff and the four decided until the May 19. City council agenda on roll. Councilmember Gallo? Aye. Councilmember Houston? Aye. Councilmember Wong? Aye. And chair Fife?

Aye. This motion does pass with four ayes to approve the recommendations of staff and to forward this item to the 05/19/2026 city council agenda and through the body that will be on consent. Thank you. Moving to item five. Adopt a resolution accepting the Oakland Fund for Children and Youth final year and independent annual evaluation report for fiscal year twenty four through twenty five, and you do have one speaker.

Good afternoon, LEC chair Fife and fellow council members. My name is Robin Love and I'm the children and youth services manager within the human services department. And I'm pleased to be here before you today to present our Oakland Fund for Children and Youth fiscal 2425 evaluation report. As you know, Oakland City Council ordinance thirteen five eight eight CMS requires us to present an independent annual evaluation to you for review and acceptance. I'd like to introduce CEO and co founder Katie Kramer from the bridging group who will execute the presentation today for you.

And then we are happy to answer any questions upon completion of that presentation.

Thank you, Ms. Love. Is Robin Levinson here today?

He's right there.

Oh, there you are. Thank you.

The two Robins. Robin squared. Good

afternoon everyone. I do have slides, if you want bring it up. And I am this is the full presentation the full evaluation. So it is and this is single spaced, double sided. So it it's a a pretty comprehensive project for an extremely valuable and comprehensive programs and and block of services as you will know. In your package, you have the the main report. And so I'll be giving highlights there and I'm going to very quickly give you highlights because otherwise we'd be here all night.

Through the chair, I do wanna add that this is as large as it is because it contains individual agency and program profiles. This will be on our website for you to access digitally. Thank you.

What is that

website? Ofcy.org. Thank you.

And then, Diedes, we'll talk about there are a 145 programs who were funded under OFCY during this fiscal year, and each one of those programs have their own summary, about two to three to six page summary report. So that's what a lot of this is. And there's real value there because as we'll talk about in the slides, this this fund is incredibly important in the services it provides because it's not it's a universal fund across all of Oakland, but it also provides kind of that flexibility for all of the unique programs that each of the agencies stand up. So with that in mind, I'll go ahead and go through the slides with my clicker. So obviously, was not me.

Most of this were the folks here on the screen. We had an incredible team that were involved in the evaluation of OSUI. I do wanna point out that this is for fiscal twenty four twenty five. So this was for the services that went 07/01/2024 through June 2025. And I know you've had other stuff coming up here in terms of the new funding and all that, but I just wanna make sure you all are aware that this is for f y twenty four, twenty five.

And the other thing I'll share as we get into it, this is very exciting as we came on about a year and a half, two years ago to really catch up. So we, within the last two years, produced for you fiscal an evaluation for fiscal year twenty two, twenty three, fiscal year twenty three, twenty four, and now fiscal year twenty four, twenty five. So that catches us up, which is very exciting. And at the same time, we're actively involved in fiscal year twenty five, twenty six and doing some innovative planning for the future, which we'll touch on briefly today. So to remind you, the the fund for 2425 was 18,800,000 across 11 different strategies and four different funding areas, and this gives you an overview of the breakdown of the investment per strategy.

And I'm just gonna quickly there's way too much in here. But as as I briefly mentioned, we really have been going through this evolution of evaluation planning and documentation and really to look at strengthening the collective narrative, the collective outcomes that we can measure across all of the funds while continuing to maintain each of those unique individual programs and what they do. So we have been involved in many different parts of this OFCY evolution. And currently, we are really doing these last three things. We are beta testing right now some new outcome measures that we'll be excited to bring to you forthcoming to continue to strengthen our narrative.

We worked very closely with the OSUI team as they were rolling out the new RFP to make sure the work we're doing now is sustained for the future as they move forward with the next round of grantees. And, again, ultimately, to be able to tell this collective story of amazing work and all the the young people and their families are that are being supported by OCWA. This is our North Star. We are really guided by the city of Oakland's in embracing of the results based accountability framework. We have been working you'll see some of this across city of Oakland departments and OUSD, which you'll see in this evaluation, working to elevate participant voice, improve the, again, the overall narrative, and just to define these clear and consistent outcome measures.

This is how we've applied the results based accountability framework to OFCY evaluation. I'll be going through highlights in each of these, but we really looked at how much did we do as a fund, how well did we do it, and ultimately is anyone better off. And again, I'll provide highlights in each of these areas. Here are our data sources. So we work very closely again with the city and with city span.

And so we have we're given data through the city and city span on quantitative records related to how many people were served, who were they, the hours of services types of programs. We also have access to the outcomes that the sites are reporting. And, again, without getting to a lot of detail, previously, the the outcomes were more descriptive and very open ended that each site could define their own outcomes and describe how they were meeting those outcomes. So we're doing, again, a lot of work to make space for that descriptive story while also making more unified outcome measurements. But we spend a lot of time with staff going through these more narrative reports to look at that is anyone better off data points.

And then finally, we do distribute and collect a lot of surveys, and you'll hear a bit more about that in a minute. So we have an OSCY participant survey. In FY 2425, we collected with the hard work of many of the sites over 6,000 surveys from OSCY participants. That's both youth and parents. And then new in 2425, we work closely with OUSD who also funds many of these these sites, especially programs.

So we did two things. One, we looked at their survey and our survey. And in an effort to reduce burden on the participants, we removed any question on our survey that was already being asked on the OUSD survey. And likewise, we made sure our questions were parallel to those. And then through a data sharing agreement, they shared over 3,000 of their surveys. So we were ultimately able to leverage over 9,400 surveys, again, all representing participant voice and input on the programs and how they think they've impacted their lives. Okay. So that's the bigger picture. Here is indeed some of the the key data points. So how much was done in f y twenty four, twenty five?

Here you see that over 20,801 children and youth, and those are unduplicated individual 20,801 children and youth were served by OFCY across the city. You can see the race, ethnicity breakdown, gender, and age distribution of these children and youth. And then similarly, 2,591 adults were served. Those were predominantly parents who were served in the zero to five early childhood services to the family resource centers and the social and emotional well-being for early childhood. And, again, you see the demographic breakdown of those 2,500 adults.

How well did we do it? So the actuals compared to projections. So here we looked at each of the sites provided us with how many young people and then how many did they actually serve. So this with those numbers, the in total, they served a 126% of the number of youth and adults served. And, again, that represents that 26,808 people served.

And then they also similarly project how many hours of service do they project to provide through their programs. And across the entire fund, they provided a 109% of the number of hours projected. And that represents over 4,000,000 of service provided across all of the programs. So we also look at how well do we do it by an an equity lens and looking at OFCY is, by statute, intended to serve young people and their families and communities across Oakland that may not have resources that other communities and neighborhoods do. So we look at that in two ways.

We look at it in terms of race and place. So here you see the racial and ethnic breakdown of OFCY youth who are served, and we compare that to the overall Oakland population via the American Community Survey or the census. And you can see that OFCY does meet its priority populations or exceeds them with African American black individuals, Latinx, and individuals who identify with two or more races. And all overall, ninety three percent of the OSCY youth participants are from the priority populations it intends to serve and support. Similarly, we look at place, and we look at place through two equity tools that the city of Oakland uses for many of its programs.

One is the Oakdoc geographic equity toolbox. The other is the twenty twenty four Oakland community stressors map. And the chart above, youth are served over 18 different ZIP codes across Oakland. That chart lists the top six ZIP codes. So the top six of the 18 are listed in that top chart and shows the top neighborhoods served by OFCY.

And then by mapping out those zip the kids in those ZIP codes, the the youth, you can see that OFCY parallels some of the equity tools that the city uses to to to map out where it looks aims to provide resources across the city to priority neighborhoods.

Doctor Kramer?

Yes, please.

You have expended twelve minutes

Okay.

Sorry. Of

this ten minute okay. I think we have, like, 10 more slides.

I am going to do it very quickly.

Thank you.

Madam chair, can I have two more minutes? Yes. Okay. I'll go quick. Thank you. I'm trying to get this 500 page yeah. But but that said, I wanna respect your time. So how is anyone better off? We do it in two ways. One, we look at the practices that the programs are using.

We looked at it based on evidence based literature. And are the programs integrating effective strategies to support positive youth development? And I won't go through them there, but those are the five main strategies as lifted up in the literature. And you can see overwhelmingly, OSCY programs across the board provide these evidence based strategies that are most likely to produce positive youth development in all of the the strategy areas practice areas. OSCY also, and we're we're more newly tracking this, is about leveraging not only what each of the sites are doing, but what they're doing to collaborate and partner with other organizations.

So you see here that of the OFCY sites, they partnered with over 300 other organizational partners across each of these five areas. And then we also look at outcomes and outcome categories. And I'm presenting to you four different outcome category measurement categories here. The first is academic preparation. A lot of this data does come from the surveys.

This is the area that we're looking to strengthen with some of our reporting. But here you can see some very strong results around academic preparation among the many, many different youth that were surveyed and some of the questions related to academic preparation, all very positive. Here, you look you see economic employment and economic well-being. In particular, you see both that youth are prepared for employment and economic well-being. In addition, we had over 1,400 youth placed into a paid internship or job at a $15 an hour average hourly stipend or wage.

We also look at parent engagement with their children, again, specifically for some of those strategies supporting parents and young children. We saw very positive outcomes here related to these outcomes. And then finally, we looked at belonging connections and safety. And here are some of the measures and results as the young people expressed their their impact on their sense of feeling like they belong, are connected to programs and community and a sense of safety. And then, again, as I mentioned, this goes through all the different parts of the program beyond the main the main report.

We have strategy level outcome summaries. We do list some strengths and challenges, all the collaborative partners, the program profiles. And there you go. I know. I'm telling you. I talk a lot, but when people put me on task, I respect it.

Thank you. Are there any, immediate questions from the committee? We'll hear from our public speakers. Did you have something to add, miss Robin? We'll take our public speaker. Miss Asada?

Love this lady. I have a lot of respect for her work, but I do have some concerns. One of them is I'm very concerned with OUSD and the lack of background checks with people who work in the district, particularly volunteers. So I hope the scope of work guarantees that everybody that was involved with these children had a real background check. If you look at the main source of how you evaluate, it is a self evaluation process for those who are in the work arena, and it's also a survey where there is self reporting of what we do.

Maybe with the scope of level of people you are dealing with, this is the best you can do. And I respect that. I do question when you are working with children zero to five and six to 10, I don't think they are going to be capable of doing survey. So within that group, how do we determine what we want to have as a result of an effective evaluation? I just recommend that in the future we find scope of work around life skills, social development.

Our young people are in dire need of learning things like teamwork, patience, anger management, critical thinking, communication spirit, respect for authority. And I know that's this is where the greatest need is in this district. I just saw that fight out there, and that's that shouldn't take away from first Friday, had nothing to do with first Friday, but we may pay a consequence for it. But I continue to say, we need to work whenever we have the capacity on helping our young people develop what we call life skills. And if that

That concludes your public speakers' item five.

Thank you, council member Wong.

Thank you. Really excellent evaluation report. I had a couple of questions about some subgroups of children and youth that I'm, you know because they're the most vulnerable I'm concerned about their well-being and also you know how our programs address these particular youth. So there's a couple foster care youth, youth that are, I've talked about this a lot about my priorities around human trafficking and commercially sexually exploited youth as well as homeless youth. And I'd love to see more of a deep dive in terms of how these programs are serving their needs and also whether there's room to grow of tailoring a subset of our programs to serve these young people in particular.

Through the chair, when we present to you, demographics when we come for our year round award, we'll have some information about those specific populations. I understand the importance of serving them. I did twenty four years in child welfare as a manager. So these issues of homelessness with foster youth and with other youth, the stressors and the risk factors that they have in terms of outcomes. So and we also look at CSEC, as we call it, young people and the experience with that.

So we do have funded programs that serve these populations. And with the work we're doing now, as I mentioned to you before, we're really trying to take a look at agency reporting with a particular focus on having specific outcome measurement categories that have specific definitions. I also have new staff coming on board. One is here today, so we'll be able to do more site visits and monitoring. We also have site visits working with TBG so we are happy to take a look at the deep dive and some of that work is currently underway and I'll bring it back for you. And any guidance you have or support that you want to share with us, I'm happy to receive that as well.

That sounds great. And on the human trafficking in particular, I'd love to connect just where where the task force I chair is at and how we might be able to I'm realizing right now that OFCY is not part of that and I I think we should remedy that and connect on that.

Through the chair, do work with Missy and Dream Youth Clinic and we fund them currently and it is part of our recommendations to move forward. So doctor Mays and team always help enlighten us. Robin is assigned Robin Levinson is assigned to do their work and she's gone to site visits and checked in. So we're aware of the committee but happy to step in and partner in a different way.

Okay. Awesome. Thanks.

And I just wanna lift up as well as said, I mean, balance is with the scale of telling the large story and then those unique stories. And indeed, we just started for this year, which you'll hear next year, evaluation site visits, and intentionally tried to look at a diverse group of sites, in particular programs that maybe serve a unique group that isn't their story in particular isn't being lifted up in bigger data with some sense of doing some kind of site spotlights and highlighting some of those very unique factors.

Council member Gyle.

Thank you for the information. You made references to Oakland Unified School District. Are you also working with the charter schools

in Oakland? We're working with some of the charters that are working with Oakland Unified. I don't know if we're working with any of the independent charters, but we can look into that.

It's so it's pretty much Oakland Unified, not the other private schools in our neighborhood or charter schools?

That's correct.

Okay. Then then on on your last page, 23, 86%, when you feel when youth feel unsafe, their program provides resources or someone to call for support. Who who do they who do we if I feel unsafe, who do you give me to call or report to?

Yeah. I mean, we don't have that level of detail. I will tell you a lot of this rigor that we're talking about and actually miss Asada, like, I feel like she read our our our evaluation plan because indeed we're trying to drill down a bit further and indeed life skills is on the list. Social emotional learning, really understanding safety a bit more. Resource allocations, connections. So in the next year and the year after, you'll see a bit more of a a drill down on that. And we don't have that level of detail just As

an example, you know, people make reference to Skyline High School. Mhmm. You know, in case of an emergency, a fire, where do children run off to? Because a good number of children take the bus up to Skyline or get dropped off at Skyline. But are you involved at all in terms of the safety within the schools that that we're having?

Because growing up here in Oakland, East Oakland, and through the school system, it used to be that our school campuses were open Friday nights, Saturdays, and Sundays. We couldn't get it at home, but we went to school. You know, it continued, but now they're all locked down. The minute kids leave the school, well, they're locked down and we don't have a music program like we used to or at least a basketball gym that's open. Are you involved with that at all in terms of providing that extra support for the children that we don't get it at home, but the school used to be open for or the no.

The the parks and recreation, where the recreation centers were open, but now they're shut down. Yes. Anyways, are you involved at all with that?

So through the chair, as you know, the Oakland Fund for Children and Youth is a grant maker. So we do contract with community based agencies that have referral networks. They also have a compendium of resources that young people can access through referral and warm handoffs. They also have supportive adult connections. One of the things around building connections and who you feel safe with, so we have adult supportive adult connections.

So we're involved on the periphery because we don't do direct service, but we certainly support collaboration. As you will see in the new awards that I'll present to you, we've taken a deeper investment, in employment, but also in safety. We we can connect the dots and correlate the, challenges that young people face with the need for having resources available. So this year, you'll see we made deeper investments in place based innovations for safety and independent living and life skills and safety programming. And we also share information with the Department of Violence Prevention as they transition to move, to serve more acute need in the community.

We're also learning from them and sharing information about what we know makes the most sense from restorative justice to other supports.

Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome.

Council member Houston.

I was looking. I was reading. I see a vendor that provides services to East Oakland Boxing Association at 816 98th Avenue. What other organizations are based in District 7?

Through the chair, I can provide that information to you. Oh. I can't Oh, okay. Like, it's a number of different organizations because we have, a 144 programs, but I can't share that with you. It's sitting over there in my binder, so I would have to go look.

I'll see you in the hallway. Alright. Yeah. Just show

me.

Sounds good.

Okay.

And I can bring it back through the chair, some additional demographics and data about our programming and all of the information through an information report or other means that you deem appropriate.

And I can add from evaluation. I think it's a I don't know if you were suggesting this, but we can add as an appendix the list of the organizations funded by district into the evaluation.

That's a great idea.

It says here in District 7, it was 7,486 youth from D D 7 in East Oakland. Is that accurate?

Yes. So the report that through the chair. The report that you received does have a data by zip code by program so it is accurate for fiscal year twenty four twenty five because we have to close out the current year and then work on presenting and developing the data for the evaluation report. It's always in a year. Always in a rear. Excuse me.

Because I've just seen the number in 09/2021, then 09/2003 was 3051 and 02/1945. And then that I just was trying to figure out add those numbers together. I couldn't add those together. Okay. We'll figure it out. Okay.

So thank you to all my colleagues for your questions. I just have a couple. With the new evaluation for 2526, the RFP goes out in July. Is that accurate? Is the the next evaluation RFP?

Yes. So we are in the process. We just closed the request for qualifications for professional services agreement. I believe we received 21 proposals. We are working within the division to have readers for the professional services agreement. And so we should have a a pool of vetted vendors from Oakland and other places that submitted proposals.

You had 21 respondents to an RFP? 13.

13.

13. That's still significant compared to some of the other requests for proposals that come out from other spaces. But the the programming that will be evaluated, the programming is happening right now. The from the service providers, not that you will be collecting data from.

So the fiscal year twenty five through the chair, fiscal year twenty five twenty six are currently funded grantees that we had the year extension. They are currently submitting data in city span, demographic data, and other RBA data that we'll present to you December '56. '6. January. January. She needs an extra Katie needs an extra month.

Yeah. January.

I Got

I I do see that the racial demographics that are served do tend to be Latinx Hispanic. Is that because the programs that's who's coming to the programs? Is is it reflective of

Population and Population. Yes. So the demographics in Oakland is changing. One, we know that Oakland's getting older. We also know we have more young people than we do younger children, zero to 12. And the Latinx population is on the previous slide, it was 19% that we showed are African American and I believe the other it was just on the slide, it was about 30%. So it's reflective of the changing demographics in Oakland. As you know through the chair, a lot of African Americans have been displaced, particularly in West Oakland. I still live there and I remember when nine out of 10 homes were owned by African Americans. So we see that across the city.

The the largest number of African Americans are still in D 6, and D 7 where we see some of the issues. And so it is something that's happening that we are concerned about. We also know that African Americans make up a larger percentage of the homeless population or unstably housed population. And so, you know, we have families mixed in there too. So it's it's just a reflection of Oakland as it evolves and changes.

I was just wondering about who is, if you all could give me offline a list of the organizations that serve youth, teenage youth, because those are a lot of the kids that I end up seeing downtown on the videos that our public speaker was discussing. And I'm wondering who in this pipeline of funding is serving that age group because, yeah, we need we need a lot of help right now.

Through the chair, absolutely. This is why the city span database is so important. It is our repository of all our data And so I can generate reports and or have custom reports generated to cut the data in different ways and aggregate it up and de aggregate it as need be. So that would be something that we absolutely can do. Outstanding. I will be contacting you offline. And I

I do have to speak to I I appreciate this report on the binder of pages and pages and pages that you have done to evaluate these programs. I I would be interested in understanding what is a qualitative process for little people

who can't Yep.

Yep. Yep. So first of the zero to five through the chair.

I'm the chair. You don't have to say

that. Okay. Problem's keeping me on my toes. For zero to five year olds, we're actually having the parents fill out the surveys predominantly. And so we don't have zero to five year olds fill out surveys. The older kids, we offer it from kindergarten up. We have not nearly as many kindergarten to second graders filling out. I would say they fill it out from third grade on. We do do training. We offer up that parents can fill it out with the younger ones and or the staff can.

And or again, new this year in our site visits, yes. And we are also looking at, I should say we offer the surveys in nine different languages. And we are also looking at ADA and neurodiversity and looking at accessibility under those auspices thanks to some of our providers who have lifted that. So we're really trying to look at accessibility across the board. At the site visits, we've now started more interactive evaluation activities. So we do it with younger ones. We're literally doing things like marble racing or coloring or like kind of more happy faces, innovative ways to gather vote what we say, voting with your feet. If you agree with this, run here. A lot of running. Gotta get that running out.

If you agree over here. So really looking at how do we do more innovative information collecting both for our young people and and and kids across the board because I do think there's a lot of survey fatigue. So we're really trying to look at alternative methods to gather information from all our folks.

I love that. I love the new additions. And I think there could be a like, an age appropriate Likert type scale that could be done with little people. So that that is wonderful. And I do have to commend Robin Love. Your acumen, integrity, and accountability have shifted the way that these processes have gone.

Yes.

And I can I can't uplift you enough for carrying this department on your shoulders Yes? Through all kinds of crises. And I just wanted highlight you publicly for that because, you know, I know what you you have to to deal with. So on that, I will entertain a motion on this oh, council member Houston. Oh, we have a motion from council member Houston and a second from council member Gaio.

Thank you. We have a motion made by council member Houston, seconded by council member Gaio to approve the recommendations of staff and the four decided to the 05/19/2026 city council agenda on roll. Council member Gaio? Aye. Council member Houston? Aye. Council member Wong? Aye. And chair five? Aye. This motion passes with four ayes to approve the recommendations of staff and to forward this item to the May 19 city council agenda and through the body that will be on consent. Thank you. Moving to our open forum. Blair Beekman and miss Asada.

Before you leave, I would be happy to support little people if there's any programs that need phonics support. I love teaching little people how to read.

That's great. I got some books for you too. Okay. You ready? Yes, ma'am. This is Barbara Jordan, 1995, why she's against illegal immigration because it hurts black America. Let's see if I could get this right.

He should receive whatever benefits a lawful resident re Immigration is not a right guaranteed by The US constitution to everyone anywhere in the world who thinks they wanna come to The United States. Immigration is a privilege. The commission finds no national interest a country is country. A country that is entry of hundreds of thousands of illegals. That undermines our commitment to legal immigration.

If an alien is in this country lawfully, he should receive whatever benefits a lawful resident receives. But if a person is here unlawfully, he should be entitled to no benefits. No benefits.

I agree with Barbara Jordan. She said in 1995 Immigration

is not a right.

The main thing was it was gonna eventually impact employment of black African American males, and that's just what has happened. So I will continue to bring this to you. We are paying a price for your commitment to illegal immigrants in the city of Oakland. That price is employment or lack of it. In the school district, we got newcomer programs, newcomer staff, newcomer schools. We have nothing for the African American.

We are to our Zoom speaker, Blair Beakman. Please unmute yourself and begin your comment.

Hi. I'm Blair Beakman. Thanks for the meeting today. It was nice. Hopefully, I can, in a short amount of time, reiterate a few of my words from the item on digital literacy that was meant to help both young people and elderly.

The work I do with tech accountability really lends itself to that item. And I think just a reminder that tech accountability, teaching, you know, skills of, you know, your civil rights and civil protections with technology can be a a great additional tool for digital literacy. It gives people a sense of hope in what they're learning. It gives a purpose, a sense of purpose. They're not just learning things for the mass, for the consumerism of things.

They're learning for, you know, our better, values as a country. And when when they see that, like elderly people see that, they they get good reminders of things. And young people, they learn important lessons how to build their future. So and and I think, you know, working with tech accountability's ideas of responsibility and safety, you you just feel safe when you're practicing good practices. And, it's like the best of our lives, and and as and as a nation.

So, good luck in how you how tech accountability can be a part of the digital literacy program. That's what I tried to say previously. And thank you for your work on sell by issues that I think I heard said. I'm relearning now and rewatching the videos that it can come back in a year's time with different, vendors in mind. And thank you for working and thinking in those terms. Now the key is can we work towards that promise and keep our promise? You know, the same with the ALPR stuff. Are we really gonna work on it? I mean, I'll be definitely trying to help you guys along, but I hope it's a real joyful effort to wanna be working on it because you're off to a great start with

That concludes your public speakers for open forum.

Thank you. It is 05:35, and this meeting is adjourned.