City Council - meeting_joint_special

Tuesday, December 16, 2025
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Government Body
City Council
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City Council
Location
Oakland, CA
Meeting Date
December 16, 2025

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5:15 – 5:510

Good afternoon and welcome to this special city council meeting of Tuesday, 12/16/2025. Before I call roll, I will go over speaker card instructions for this meeting. If you like to speak on any agenda item, please fill out a speaker's card and return that to a clerk representative before the item is called for discussion. As the rules of procedure have established, you have two two hours I'm sorry, hour and thirty minutes to sign up from the start of this meeting. This meeting started at 01:03, so that time will be 02:33PM.

5:52 – 6:040

If you're looking to submit an online speaker card, they were due twenty four hours before the start of this meeting. On the roll for this meeting are council member Brown. Present. Council member Fife.

6:041

Present.

6:040

Council member Gayle.

6:062

Present.

6:060

Council member Houston. Present. Council member Ramachandran. Present. Council member Unger.

6:133

Present.

6:140

Council member Wong. Present. And chair Jenkins.

6:174

Present.

6:180

Showing eight members present at this time. Before we go through the agenda do you have any announcement?

6:24 – 7:044

Absolutely. There are a number of people out here to speak. I know everybody is excited about the PFERS conversation but we are going to run into time issues. So, speaker will be given one minute. The order of the agenda will be as followed: Consent, followed by FLAC, followed by Rules of Procedure, then we'll take the agenda in order after that. FLAC will be first. Okay. After consent. Consent, FLAC, rules of procedure, then we'll go in order from there.

7:08 – 7:390

And just a reminder as you are entering the chambers you are required to have a seat. If the chamber is full and there are no seats available you can go to Hearing Room 1 for overflow. You will be able to view the meeting there. And if you signed up to speak, you will have time to come back to the chamber to address the council for public comments. Moving to item four modifications of the agenda and procedural items.

7:414

Any modifications? Seeing none.

7:48 – 8:210

Moving to item five, which is the consent calendar starting with item 5.1. Approval of the draft minutes from the meeting of 12/02/2025. Item 5.2 is a resolution regarding a declaration due to the local AIDS emergency. Item 5.3, a resolution regarding the the declaration of medical cannabis emergency. Item 5.4, a resolution due to the declaration of a local emergency on homelessness.

8:21 – 8:580

Item 5.5, an ordinance for vacant property tax amendments. Item 5.6, an ordinance for the Oakland Municipal Code chapter 10.2, speed limits, administrative updates. Item 5.7, an ordinance for economic activation zones. Annum 5.8, an ordinance for planning code amendments to streamline conditional use permits. Item 5.9, an ordinance for flex streets program.

8:58 – 9:310

Item 5.1, a resolution for the twenty seventh Street Complete Streets Construction Contract Award. Item 5.11, resolution for Oakland Public Works Sewer Division cooperative agreements. Item 5.12, a resolution regarding the Oakland Business Relief Program. Item 5.13, an ordinance regarding amending the Oakland Campaign Reform Act. Item 5.14, a resolution honoring the life of the the extraordinary coach John Beam.

9:31 – 10:110

Item 5.15, an information report for performance audit of the Kids First Children's Fund. Item 5.16 includes multiple pieces of legislation regarding amendments to ordinance number one two one eight seven, the salary ordinance. Item 5.17, a resolution for HDL software LLC, local tax software solution in printing and mailing services. Item 5.18, an ORSA resolution for the ROBS payment schedule for fiscal years '26 through '27. Item 5.19, a resolution awarding a professional services contract to Francisco and Associates.

10:12 – 10:470

Item 5.2, a resolution regarding updates to environmentally preferable purchasing policy. Item 5.22, a resolution for sustainable fleet transition grants acceptance match appropriation and purchases. Item 5.23, a resolution regarding the purchasing contract for traffic maintenance materials. Item 5.24, a resolution ensuring a competitive market for Prowl Construction. Item 5.25, a resolution for electric bike lending program.

10:48 – 11:250

Item 5.26, a resolution for acceptance of funding and technical assistance for Bay Renn decarbonization showcase program. Item 5.27, a resolution for MOU between the city of Oakland and the city of San Leandro. Item 5.28, a resolution for terms for an ex exclusive no negotiation agreement. Item 5.29, a resolution in support of the Bay Area District zero emission building appliance rules. And a 5.3, a resolution for grant agreements with friends of Peralta Hacienda Historical Park.

11:25 – 12:020

And a 5.31, a resolution for an addendum to affiliation agreement between University of San Francisco and the City of Oakland. A 5.32, a resolution for OPD citizens option for public safety grant. Item 5.33, a resolution for a contract with Bright Research Group and ROCA for training services. Item 5.34, a resolution for contract amendment with the University of Pennsylvania for ceasefire lifeline evaluation. Item 5.35, a resolution authorizing the city.

12:034

Order in the chamber.

12:05 – 12:280

Item 5.35, a resolution authorizing the Lynn Marine contract. Item 5.36, an emergency ordinance for amendments of the Oakland Fire Code. Just noting that approval of this item it will be introduced in final passage in the same meeting and that is your final consent calendar.

12:28 – 12:424

Security, please make sure that everyone has a seat. If there are not enough seats, please direct folks to the overflow room. Any comments on consent? Seeing none, let's go to public speakers. Oh, come on up director.

12:475

Workforce Development. Let's see. I gotta figure out which number this is. I'm sorry. This is in regards to item 5.28, terms for an exclusive negotiating agreement.

12:57 – 14:005

I want to thank council member Fife, and then staff just wanted to expand on one of the further resolved clauses that is already in the draft resolution just as a point of clarification, and that is with respect to the Surplus Lands Act. A disposition is exempt from the surplus lands act if the property is subject to a valid legal restriction which prohibits residential housing and if that restriction is not imposed by the city. It must also be true that there's no feasible method to satisfactorily mitigate or avoid the prohibition on this site, and in this case, the North Gateway property is encumbered with such a restriction due to the presence of environmental contamination. This existing deed restriction can only be lifted by the California Department of Toxic Substances Control, DTSC, and only after DTSC approves a plan to remediate the site and only after that plan is implemented. And we believe that it would take several years and cost the city at least $120,000 to develop a plan that DTSC might approve.

14:00 – 14:255

However, there's no guarantee that DTSC will approve a remediation plan and commit to granting a waiver. If DTSC did approve a remediation plan, the remediation itself would also be time consuming and costly, but the actual timeline and costs are impossible to predict at this time, and the cost and risk to the city could be significant. And there's more information about this in an informational report that was provided to the city council on 06/07/2022.

14:284

Thank you. Anything else from the administration? Anything else from staff? Alright. No staff coming up. Let's go to the public speakers.

14:40 – 14:590

As I call your name, please approach the podium in any order. Please state your name for the record so we can assign you the appropriate amount of time. As with standard practice, speakers in the chambers will be taken first. Zoom speakers will be taken immediately after. Please raise your hand so I can easily identify you if you are on Zoom.

15:00 – 15:400

Sanford Forte, Prescott Chair, Kevin Dally, Juan Canem, I have you for two items. Josephine Guzman, I have you for two items. Jennifer Finley, I have you for four items. Jack Fleck, Hannah Zuckerman, George Spees, David Peters, I have you for multiple items. David Gasman, Colleen Corrigan, Brian Culberson, miss Asada Olabala, multiple I have you for multiple items.

15:40 – 16:110

Derek Barnes, David Boatwright. David Boatwright, I have you for looks like two items, Bob Raahebi. Sorry if I said that incorrectly. Kevin Hester, Javier Gonzales, Ira Dixon, Blair Beakman, have you with multiple items. Isaiah Daniels, Eric Turner, Stanley Cooper,

16:156

Keith,

16:17 – 17:000

Batcher, Butcher, maybe with curbside trucks trucking, Miguel Lopez, Arnel Price, Ralph Cans, I have you with multiple items. Mister Hazard, I have you with multiple items. Stephanie Tran and Raffini. I'm sorry. I can't read the last name. It looks like g maybe or Raffini. In any order, please begin. Mister Borbright, have you with two cards.

17:01 – 17:227

So how much time do I get? Two minutes or one minute? Two? Okay. While item five thirteen seems to level the spending ground for current office holders, it is imperative to encourage good, strong potential candidates to run and support their debate participation even if they lack significant funding.

17:23 – 17:597

While it doesn't initially result in flashy, expensive pamphlets, it can lead to word-of-mouth support, more practical and positive ideas and less money. Demonizing the other candidates is what we need. And then on item five twenty eight, the Costco item, I think it's a great revenue generator. It sounds like the city is not for it given the comments that were just made. But any word on the informational meeting we were gonna have? That's it.

18:02 – 18:160

If your name was called and you were in chambers, please approach the podium if you wish to address the council. To make it quicker, you were able, please line up if you're able and just come to the mic.

18:174

Council member Fife.

18:21 – 19:051

I just wanted to clarify through the chair to the public, if if I may, because we had our director of economic and workforce development speak. Is is our staff still here? Director I think thank you for for speaking earlier. If you could just clarify for the public there. I think there's a misunderstanding of the statement that you made. I wanted to clarify that director Kanet spoke in support of the Costco item and just re reiterated what was stated at the community and economic development department meeting that we had earlier. So if you could, without stating the entire frame, can you just summarize what you wanted to state for the public please?

19:055

Yes. The administration is in support of the item and I was just trying to clarify why the surplus lands act does not apply to this item.

19:14 – 19:434

Okay. Thank you. And before the public speakers, security please make sure that everyone has a seat in the chambers. If not, please direct people to the overflow room. Again, please make sure that everyone in the seat in the chambers has a seat. If not, direct them to the overflow room. Thank you. Please proceed.

19:43 – 20:048

Hello, City Council and fellow friends of Oakland. My name is Javier Gonzales and I'm a small business owner in Oakland. I'm a housing provider in District 5 and District 3 and also a member of the Rental Housing Association. I also volunteer assisting Spanish speaking housing providers in Oakland understand and navigate the housing laws. I want to speak today on the vacant parcel tax.

20:05 – 20:468

Regarding the agenda item on the vacant parcel tax, I want to say that I'm encouraged that there's a resolution requiring that the vacant parcel tax independent hearing officer provide statement of facts when rendering his written decision on formal appeals contesting the city fines. I'd like to ask the finance director, the city administrator, the city council to also require the SCI Corporation. The SCI Corporation is the company that writes the initial appeals or responses when Oaklanders receive this vacant parcel tax. I'd like to ask that they carry on this statement of fact.

20:53 – 21:140

Just a reminder to those on the black excuse me, on the back wall, if you cannot find a seat, you do need to go downstairs to the overflow. There are a couple seats to my left. If you can find seating, you cannot stand against the back wall. It is a fire hazard. Please find a seat or go to the chain I mean, to the overflow room. You will have ample time to come back up to address the council if you signed up to speak.

21:214

One second, mister Beakman.

21:260

If you are giving public comment comment, come up towards the middle just to line up to access the mic.

21:434

Please proceed, Beekman.

21:45 – 21:599

Thank you. Hi. Blair Beakman. I wanted to speak to items 5.7, 5.1, 5.24, and 5.33. For 5.7, that's economic models coming up for the Downtown Oakland area.

22:00 – 22:449

We've all suffered from the era of COVID. You're going to be trying new things for the downtown area. I'm really hopeful that by 2027 or so, we were really talking before the era of COVID about new economic models altogether. The current mayor of New York is talking about, you know, free transit service, a system of working where where everything isn't just tax and spend, and we get services, and then we're highly taxed for those services, we're really developing new we should come back to the ideas of new economic models as we're passing through this COVID era or leaving it. And for the downtown area, it's got a lot of tech involved.

22:44 – 22:589

There's gonna be tech involved with these projects. We have to be open and accountable with that process. We have to have it as a community process. You guys are not offering good examples of community work today for tech issues. I hope we can be learning lessons today.

22:59 – 23:399

Item 5.1 is complete streets and 5.24 is PROW construction. These to me are kind of connected in that there's a real importance in the ideas of, there'll be a lot of tech involved. And for the future of our mobility issues and overall complete street issues, to have just good policies in place for for advocacy, for, you know, pedestrian accessibility, for them to be working towards best practices with the tech involved also, and same with bicycle people. Good luck, we're working on those things in Oakland. It really is a holistic process in building our good future.

23:39 – 23:579

And and these are the open good things that we do together. We shouldn't be canceling each other out and fighting amongst ourselves. I hope we can be working together on this stuff. And finally for item 5.33, Bright Training Research. Really nice item.

23:57 – 24:339

It's been around, going around counseling committee for a while now. It's, it's like cognitive learning training in some ways to help with violence prevention issues. And this, this kind of item is so needed at this time when we're dealing with so much tech. When we have been building really good, you know, violent prevention practices, you know, around social services, around macro, and if we continue those good efforts, I mean, we can be really asking federal agencies for continual funding because we're doing these programs so well. And that's it's a fair ask.

24:33 – 24:499

And that's building, you know, a community not based on law enforcement. And I think, believe it or not, the Trump administration will actually respect it. They respected the work of of San Francisco and San Jose mayors on the same subject. Good luck what we can do as well. Thank you.

24:56 – 25:2110

Good afternoon. My name is Kevin Hester. Born and raised in Oakland, California. I work for a company McGuire and Hester founded in McGuire founded in Oakland a hundred years ago next next or this coming year. Just wanna say that ten years ago, McGuire and Hester embarked on a mentor protege in the city of County Of San Francisco with Bruce Geron and Geron Construction.

25:21 – 26:0110

At the time Bruce was had doing about 2 to $3,000,000 worth of work and had about 10 employees. Ten years later, Bruce has over 50 employees and I don't know his whole numbers, but I want to say it's somewhere probably the 40 to $50,000,000. McGuire and Hester would like the opportunity to replicate this with Cooper Engineering on a project in the in the city of Oakland where both of our companies are founded. We need the city of Oakland to invest in this opportunity for the mentor protege. Thank you.

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Hello. My name is Isaiah Daniels.

26:15 – 27:0011

was kind of tall. Hello. My name is Isaiah Daniels and I'm a superintendent for Cooper Construction and Engineering. I'm presently working here in West Oakland over on the WASS program, some of the neighborhoods in that area on the West Side. And so, I also in favor of McGuire and Hester getting this contract. We've been working alongside of them doing city sidewalks. They not only had an open door for us, but once we walked through that door, it's a small Oakland raised company. As we walked through that door, they were welcoming, assisted us in everything that we needed, And, we're looking forward to continuing this relationship that we have with them. I know we have a lot of don't have a lot of time, so I'm gonna cut mine short here. Thank you.

27:05 – 27:3312

Good afternoon. My name is Eric Turner. I'm a local apprentice from Oakland, born and raised. I'm also in favor of McGuire and Hester getting the contract for the 27th Street Improvement. Cooper Construction gives us opportunity gives opportunity to people like myself to grow and to learn different trades within construction. This contract will help a local construction company grow and hire more residents like myself.

27:37 – 28:0813

Hello, my name is Ira Dixon. I am born and raised here in Oakland, California. I'm an apprentice with the Local three hundred and I am for McGuire and Hester retaining the 27th Street contract. I just want to speak about the kindness that mister Cooper and his business offered to me when I was fresh out of school and trying to attain an apprenticeship. You know, I called around for too many different companies and none of them were willing to give me the chance to work with them.

28:08 – 28:2413

And then, I met mister Cooper, he gave me that chance. I kindly appreciate it. Companies like Cooper Engineering are important because they give people who are overlooked the chance to succeed and further their career. Thank you.

28:29 – 29:0414

Good afternoon, council members. My name is Stephanie Tran, I'm a resident of Oakland, also born and raised here. I want to express a little bit of my disappointment that the city is not supporting more local and minority owned business. Sorry, I mentioned item 5.11 Oakland has many skilled and qualified people from Oakland like everyone here with Cooper Construction and Engineering that is ready to do this work and yet they were overlooked. When city contracts bypass local workers and minority owned business, we miss an opportunity to invest our public dollars back into our communities and our people and to advance equity in a real and measurable way.

29:05 – 29:2214

Supporting local contracting should not just be a talking point, it should be reflected in outcomes. So I urge the city to do better. Let's strengthen our accountability and outreach and contracting practices so Oakland based and minority owned businesses are prioritized and involved in the bidding process.

29:2615

Hi, good afternoon. My name is Keith Butler with Curbside Trucking LLC, a district three l b e. Testing.

29:370

Through the chair, you have your hand covering the tip of the mic. So just pull the mic up and speak into the mic.

29:42 – 30:1215

Hi, everyone. My name is Keith Butler with Curbside Trucking LLC, a district three l b e right here in Oakland. I support McGuire and Esther being awarded this contract based upon their commitment to work with Oakland l b e's. Sometimes it's not about the lowest bid and the lowest number, it's about what's good for the community. Excuse me.

30:12 – 30:3315

So, in saying that, I support McGuire and Hester. They've been working with me on a couple of projects here in Oakland. Wouldn't it be good for the community to build up the community? So let's work together. Let's build Oakland together. Let's do something impactful. Thank you.

30:3716

Hello. My name is Rifiloye and I'm yielding my time to Stanley Cooper for item five ten.

30:420

Through the chair before you go, there is no seating time during the consent calendar. So you can't give away your minute.

30:57 – 31:1316

Take the microphone. There you go. Thank you so much. That I'm also in support of the city investing in the community. It's actually why I came out to speak on another item today. And so I'm very much in support of Stanley Cooper and his team being invested in by the city that they live in. Thank you.

31:19 – 31:3817

Okay. Hello city council members. My name is Stanley Cooper, the owner of Cooper Construction and Engineering. And like you heard from everybody, we are we really want to invest in the community. I personally want to thank the city council and their staff.

31:38 – 32:2117

I'm in favor of McGuire and Hester getting the contract for 27th Street. What we'll do is it would allow companies like myself and others, I have a mentor protege already set in place so I can learn a lot from a company that's been here for over a hundred years and I applaud them for that. According to the Alameda County grand jury, the SLBE and the LBE has not been utilized. It's been over ten years since a mentor protege has been used. This will help local companies like myself grow. I have a strong presence. I'm a member of NAMAC and a lot of others. And so I really hope that

32:28 – 32:4418

Hi. My name is Bob Raheby. I'm with Redgevic Construction Company. I just want to clarify that the Mentor Protege program was not established by McGuire and Hester. And Cooper Engineering, they needed to meet 30% requirement participation.

32:44 – 33:2618

By Cooper Engineering, they did not. They were at 15.5%, 1,500,000.0 short of what would be considered a Mentor Protege. Our price was $10,418,000 and McGuire and was $11,368,000 That's a million dollar difference that the city would be paying to go to McGuire and Hester. Rejvik is an Oakland firm located in Oakland since 2012. I urge the city to take the $1,000,000 and give it to all the advocates that are sitting behind me that are desperately looking for funding instead of giving it to another company that's actually a large company like McGuire and Hester.

33:32 – 33:5219

Hello, I'm speaking about item five thirty. Good afternoon council members, my name is Miguel Lopez. I'm the executive director of Friends of Parolta Hacienda Historical Park. I'm here to I'm here in strong support of this resolution. At Paralta Hacienda, our work is about creating real opportunities for young people who are often overlooked.

33:53 – 34:3719

Through paid internships, environmental stewardship, history, and cultural education, and leadership development, we help youth build job skills, confidence, and a sense of direction. Many of our teens enter our programs unsure of themselves, and over time, they become mentors, educators, and community leaders. These opportunities extend beyond youth alone. Our park connects families to food through a weekly distribution serving over 150 households, and it brings the the community together through cultural celebrations and communities and volunteer stewardship that keep our six acre public space safe and cared for. This funding sustains pathways for young people to learn, earn, and lead while preserving a historic and cultural site that belongs to all Oaklanders. Thank you for continuing to invest in this opportunity of equity and the future for our youth.

34:42 – 34:5620

Good afternoon, council members. I'm speaking for item five thirty. My name is Angel. My name is Anel, and I'm and this is my first time being involved with Peraza Hacienda. I started in the water keepers program this past September.

34:57 – 35:2920

Before joining, I haven't really done much work like this, but I've really enjoyed learning about guarding and taking care of the park. Being part of this program has helped helped me see things differently, spending time outside working with my hands, and learning how the park is cared for has made me think more about my community and my future. It also helped me realize that I want to keep being involved and continue learning new things. The staff has been really supportive to me and others from the beginning. They care about me and take the time to guide me and help me figure out my next steps.

35:29 – 35:4720

Through this program, I'm starting to build work, skills, and confidence, and and I feel encouraged encouraged to keep going. I'm grateful for the opportunity up opportunity to be part of Parata Hacienda, and I hope you continue supporting

35:484

Please let him continue. Excuse me. Sir. Did you have anything else to say?

35:560

Slow down.

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My bad. I'm grateful for the opportunity to be part of Peralta Hacienda, and I hope you continue supporting programs that help young people like me grow and find direction to stay in the right path. Thank you.

36:164

Thank you for coming to City Council. Please don't make it to your last time.

36:22 – 37:0221

Hi. My name is Jesse Rosemarin. Thank you. I've pulled out multiple cards. I figured Kevin Jenkins made us all take a day off work so we could try to beg you all to protect our communities from ICE and the Trump Administration. So you have a lot of really crazy stuff on this consent calendar so I'd like to speak to some of those. First of all, the Oakland Fire Code item 5.36. I actually work with transportation. I talked to a very strong transportation advocate about how troubled they are by a minimum length or width of these streets of 26 feet. This is problematic because this will keep people from being able to design streets that save lives of bicyclists and pedestrians.

37:02 – 37:3721

And what I would like to know is where is the Bicycle and Pedestrian Advisory Committee's input on this item? Why is it nowhere in the agenda packet? Did they get enough time to review this item? Because I am noticing a pattern, one in which the privacy advisory committee is fully ignored and their input on something that will endanger our community to to the Trump administration and to ICE and all of these things that all of you are looking down and don't seem to care about, where's their input on where's the advisory commission's input on that item? Where's the advisory commission's input on this item?

37:37 – 38:1721

And how do you expect anybody to join any of these advisory commissions when you continue to ignore them over and over and and over over and over again? How do you expect anyone to join any advisory commission when you ignore them when it's something as strong and as important as this? Our descent into fascism, our our our communities being vulnerable to ICE, and all of these things. And I'd also like to speak on this campaign finance reform thing that you guy you guys put up in the middle of this consent calendar too. We have open ethics violations and multiple Brown Act violations by multiple city council members, and I know you're not paying attention, but whatever.

38:18 – 39:0321

He's not even in his seat. Well, guess what? You've had you've had a lot of people talk about your your blatant foregoing competitive bidding processes, and we know that that that someone's hand is in the middle of that. We're seeing you go overgo these competitive bidding processes when it comes to a corrupt out of state vendor that is gonna endanger our communities and is leaking their data to ICE. And you are all complicit in this, in giving everything to the Trump administration and making our communities vulnerable to violent abductions. You know what I'm talking about. I talk to you directly. You're not even looking at me. You know exactly what I'm talking about. You made me take the day off work for this.

39:03 – 39:2521

To defend our communities, you need to take responsibility and do that. You need to defend our communities. It shouldn't be my responsibility, it's yours. So where is this? This is shameful. Lies, lies, lies, over and over and over and over and over and over again.

39:334

Thank you for your comments.

39:3622

Juan Cannon, I should have three minutes.

39:390

I'm sorry, can you say your name one One more more, two minutes.

39:426

Say your

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name one more time.

39:43 – 40:2522

Juan Canem. I'm Juan Canem, I'm a D4 resident. I'm here because, well, I'm here because you made me take a day off work, you're wasting everyone's time and nobody wants flock here but there are two items on the consent agenda you're trying to put through. One, as the previous speaker mentioned, is unnecessarily wide roads make the streets less safe. Fire department spends more time responding to vehicle crashes than it does to fires and while I appreciate the need for like large trucks and their ability to get places, it is also important that we narrow the streets which means less car crashes, which means more police time to do proactive, not, more fire department time to do proactive enforcement.

40:26 – 41:3222

Like, here we live in the shadow of the Ghost Town fire or the Ghost Ship fire and previously I lived in London, lived in the shadow of the Grenfell Tower and both those, like literally and figuratively, both those incidents could have been completely avoided if there was more proactive inspection especially when there are shitty landlords who don't keep their premises up to code and the first you know about it is when the building is literally on fire. So, we fire free by the time by having less traffic accidents, that would make everyone a lot safer. Also, the ridiculous campaign finance reform, basically trying to build up personal allegiances rather than do things through the city. If something's important enough to be done, it should be done openly and transparently. I know Janani that is bringing this ironically ran on making City Hall more transparent yet these personal fiefdom pockets of wallets of money to hand out is very like late stage Rome Republic shit.

41:3222

It's trying to build up your personal brand over the future well-being of the city. Yeah, I think that's what I got to say. Thank you.

41:5423

Hi, my name is Ian.

41:564

Order in the chamber.

42:0223

Hi. My name is Ian. I'm here to speak in opposition of the FLAC contract. It's

42:0812

Please very

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pause this time. We're not on the FLAC item.

42:1223

Oh, I was told this was the FLAC item.

42:144

This is not the FLAC item. Thank you.

42:25 – 42:5624

Good afternoon, Ralph Cans. I get three minutes. Good afternoon, Ralph Cans. Vacant property tax, I spoke to previously. As your earlier speaker noted, there are problems with the vacant property tax and these changes are not gonna solve the problems you have with the vacant property tax.

42:56 – 43:2924

In fact, this is a subsidy for house flippers in this oak in Oakland by automatically eliminating the tax when a house is sold. The LLC comes in buys it, and they go in and they start flipping it without permits. As an example, right now twenty nine zero one Seminary has gotten written up, they've got stop work orders, they keep working. They claim they're doing 8,000 worth of work. Right now you go in that house there's not it's nothing but bare studs.

43:29 – 44:0924

They've already spent over 8,000 and they keep working even with a stop work order. There's a whole lot of problems around the vacant property tax and what's going on with house flippers. Now regarding the office holder accounts, some previous speakers have mentioned this problem. There's something missing out of the report from the Public Ethics Commission, and that is in 1998, the Alameda County grand jury said, office holder account should be eliminated because they create an unfair advantage for incumbents. Period.

44:11 – 44:4624

This does nothing, nothing to clean up the mess. It just continues the mess. And it's a mess that is become every meeting of this council now because of the way you're doing it like this meeting today is sleazy. It's a corrupt process. And it's gonna lead to a corrupt result because you had to go and schedule a special meeting so you could shorten the noticing requirements for the meeting.

44:47 – 45:2724

Let me tell you, twenty five years ago there was no consent calendar at the City Council. If there had been a meeting today it would start at 06:00. Every item that was on the agenda at 06:00 would have been previously fully heard in a committee, and it would be fully heard by the city council that night. Plus, they were meeting every Tuesday night, not once or twice a month as in last month when you only met once. When are you gonna work for the people of Oakland and not for yourselves?

45:360

Mister Hazard and Derek Barnes, do you wish to

45:55 – 46:4125

You can go to cleanoakland.com, and you'll see a lot of vital information. First of all, why do you keep having cannabis as an emergency item? The federal government is now reducing cannabis to a schedule three, not a schedule one, but yet you don't do anything with fentanyl. Forty nine thousand deaths occurred in '24 on fentanyl, and you don't do anything about it. But to keep cannabis on this agenda, you need to and you approved fentanyl to be in crisis in June 2024.

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Shame on you. Also, you have and the Public Ethics Commission did not support what you have on the agenda consent calendar, increasing the office holder account. Mister Kent just told you, it's a sham. You get paid by the council, by the administration when you go on these junkets, But the public never hears the results of those of those meetings, but you get paid. So why do you need office holder account?

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You're gonna take advantage of candidates when you could dole out to individuals whatever you wanna dole out to. Also, you got so why do you have waiving the small business LBE? You got six items that you waive that. Why even have it if you're gonna waive it? I thought the intent of that was for local businesses, but you waive it every time.

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Look at it. And then you put it on the consent calendar. If you're gonna waive it, then put it on the non consent calendar. Sometimes these things don't even go through committees. You use 24 or 28 to bypass committees.

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Shame on you. Later, I'm gonna speak to what I gave you on item eight regarding rules, procedure that I was unceremoniously extricated by the president at the council meeting because I wanted the the parliamentarian to give the rules. You got the rules right here. Pull the item. Pull item number eight because I'm gonna come back and read, and I'm gonna give you the case law so you don't have any excuse.

48:5025

Pull the item. Don't do it because I'll be prepared to take the next legal step, and the courts will

49:12 – 49:5426

You're a tough act to follow. Derek Barnes with East Bay Rental Housing Association. On item I think I have a couple of items. Thank you. On item 5.4, I've said many times that we can't build our way out of this housing crisis. Not that we should stop building either, but having a good balance of renter protections and owner and property preservation and sustainable production is critical. We have legacy owners who already provide units well below market rate. I have members that are providing units at five hundred and seven hundred dollars a month, and those are the shitty landlords that someone made a comment earlier about. How? Because they can make the economics work, revenue minus all expenses.

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Any positive gains ideally go into to the reserve fund that it's necessary to for unexpected costs that rise when you're managing, maintaining older homes. We already have models that build subsidized housing and provide incentives for developers, the part of the production equation that work works well if there's a political environment to support it. And as we all know, you know, you what you want less of, you tax. What you want more of, you provide incentives. And about 80% of our homes in Oakland are over 70 years old, and it costs a lot to keep them maintained and habitable.

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So just keep that in the mind in the back of your mind when you're presenting legislation. Both private and public nonprofit housing owners are facing very similar situations. So on item 5.29, many of us share the Sierra Club's desire for cleaner air and healthier communities, but I'm deeply concerned that a structure without needed resources and time allowances for small businesses could unintentionally undermine the region's already fragile housing ecosystem. So especially for small owner owner operators with buildings that still provide the bulk of our naturally affordable housing in the city. Thank you.

51:20 – 51:360

Thank you for your comments. Again, if you were in chambers and your name was Connie, wish to address the council, please oppose the podium. We are now moving to our Zoom speaker starting with Sanford Forte. Sanford, please unmute yourself and begin your comments. Brian Culbertson, you will be after him.

51:40 – 51:5527

Yes. Good afternoon. My name is Sanford Forte. This is about public health. Costco is about public health, toxic environmental impacts, environmental injustice, and West Oakland experiencing some of the highest rates of respiratory illness in California.

51:56 – 52:4027

Support for Costco at the army base instead of Cass leaving West Oakland by default supports the continuance of this catoxic inheritance. This time letting Cass continue polluting the developing bodies of West Oakland's children and an increase in pollution in West Oakland due to 100 of thousands of additional auto trips monthly over and through West Oakland neighborhoods. Projections are for an $830,000 tax sales tax take from Costco, which is a mere four hundredths percent of our next budget. Thus, we're selling out the health of West Oakland's children and others in District 3 for far less than 1% of our annual budget. What's a child's life worth in Oakland?

52:430

Thank you for your comments, Brian. You are next. Kevin Dally, you are after Brian.

52:49 – 53:0928

Hi. My name is Brian Culberson. I'm a pedestrian safety advocate with traffic violence rapid response. I'm speaking on 536 about the fire code. Oakdot and OFD have built a good working relationship over the past three years in the absence of appendix d.

53:10 – 53:5128

Adopting appendix d, which requires wide roads, threatens to upend this positive relationship. Traffic safety advocates will be watching very closely to make sure that with the adoption of appendix d and the requirement for wide streets, that the agencies of Oakdot and OFD will continue to work cooperatively deliver on the shared goal of safe streets. Some of projects that have been really useful for this compromise is the International Boulevard Safety Project. When we added those plastic posts, we went from seven pedestrian deaths in one year to zero. So we need this working relationship.

53:560

Kevin, go ahead and begin your comments.

53:58 – 54:2229

This is yeah. Kevin Dally, Transport Oakland, fire code 5.36. I have three areas of the fire code where the legislation needs clarification or fixed errors. Legislation says chapter five section five zero three will be adopted. Is this California five zero three or ICC five zero three?

54:22 – 54:5829

If ICC five zero three is adopted, how do we resolve the conflict between California title 24, three point o five, and five zero three point two point one. Both sections require a 20 foot wide street. California allows you to include shoulders. Lastly, there is a major copyright violation in the legislation. The full text of appendix d is included. ICC owns that copyright. They will not be happy. They do sue. It should be removed and only reference. Reference only should be

55:000

Thank you for your comments, George Spees. You run next after George's Colleen Corrigan.

55:06 – 55:2930

Hello. I'm George Spees. I'm a pedestrian safety advocate also with traffic violence rapid response. Measure U bonds have now secured us a fixed pile of money to improve our streets. Selection of contractors based on transparent and defined process is especially important on these large projects that run into many millions.

55:30 – 56:0730

If we want different results, we should amend the process and the requirements. Until then, counsel should not interrupt the staff process and only exercise oversight. We really need to avoid politicizing this process. Allowing lobbying only encourages corruption, especially after staff has already completed their selection based on the defined process that council has set up. So let's stick with allowing staff to use defined processes and not change things after the fact. Thank you.

56:100

Colleen, you are next.

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Hi there. My name is Colleen Nolan. I'm not sure if I'm the correct speaker. I would like to speak, but I would not like to take the time of the other Colleen in question.

56:26 – 56:450

Okay. I'm sorry. I thought you were that same Colleen, so I don't have a card for another Colleen Colleen, so you will not be able to speak at this time. Oakland Chamber of Commerce. Please state your name.

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Hi. Yes. It's Josephine Guzman.

56:530

Go ahead, miss Guzman. You have two minutes.

56:56 – 57:1132

Great. Thank you. Hey, everyone. My name is Jospee Guzman, public policy manager for the Oakland Chamber. I'm here just in support of both items 5.12, the Oakland business relief program, and item 5.7, establishing the economic activation zones.

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Together, these items represent a coordinated approach to economic recovery and growth. The business relief program lowers the barriers for small and new businesses to open and to invest and stay in Oakland. At the same time, the economic activation zones create the foot foot traffic, vibrancy, and the customer base those businesses need to succeed. And these policies just send a clear message that Oakland is working with its business community, embracing the creativity, and taking the meaningful steps to be open for business while centering local and small businesses. The chamber looks forward to continue partnership with the council and the mayor's office to strengthen Oakland's economy and support these vibrant and inclusive neighborhoods. Thank you.

57:550

Thank you for your comments, miss Asada. You are next. Please begin your comment.

58:04 – 58:4833

Thank you, madam clerk. I'm starting with item 5.6, modifying or changing speed limits without enforcement components does not make sense. 5.7, economic activation zones need to have a component that activates ending the 9% unemployment of African Americans in the city of Oakland. 5.8, amendments would exclude support for African American vendors at Lake Merritt. On 5.1, you have, seven safety improvement projects for Lake Merritt.

58:48 – 59:3333

And while some areas of the city, there are no safety improvement projects. Five point five point twelve. You need to stop putting any more taxes on the ballot for property owners. They are the the property owners are outraged with the amount of property taxes they have to pay. 5.16, you should not pursue hiring a democracy dollars manager for the cost of over a $140,000 annually when we need an Oakland Works in workforce manager, and we need someone to manage the homeless situation.

59:34 – 59:5833

5.25, who does the enforcement related to ebikes regulation? You have no one. 5.26, you need contracts with the city of Piedmont related to the use of our libraries. You've gone over almost fifteen years without contracts in place. The city of Piedmont pays you whatever they want to use our libraries with no contract.

59:59 – 1:00:4433

Five point two seven. Former oak the Oakland army base is insulting that we are fighting right now to try to get the soil toxic hazard contamination issue at McClyman's to be remediated, and now you coming up with the army base can be used for commercial purposes without remediating the hazard and contaminated soil. That's outrageous. 5.3. Friends of pro Peralta Hacienda constantly comes to the city council, and you constantly fund them while other commercial and nonprofits don't get the same kind of support.

1:00:45 – 1:01:0533

5.34, ceasefire. You're doing ceasefire will not help the mafia Mexican mafia gangs, the prison gangs, the Asian gangs that you have here in Oakland? The fire station issue, in on Skyline Highline, no plan to evacuate those students.

1:01:09 – 1:01:240

Thank you, miss Olabala. Moving to David, can you please confirm your last name so I can give you the appropriate amount of time? David, can you please unmute yourself and say your last name?

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Hello? Can you hear me?

1:01:320

Yes. Can you confirm your last name, please?

1:01:3634

I said Peters. Can you hear me?

1:01:380

Yes. Go ahead and begin your comments.

1:01:43 – 1:02:0534

Thank you very much. I just wanna give a shout out to all the prior speakers. Oakland speakers are are passionate and informed, And I was reminded that I'm excited about the economic activation zones that are coming online. I wanna thank council member Brown for shepherding that through the process. And then no.

1:02:05 – 1:02:3934

Because of my love for people that are from Oakland, for real real, for really from Oakland, man, Jean has a what is a weed emergency anyway, bro? What are we doing? We got real stuff that we need to talk about, like this amendment or or this ENA, principle ENA for Costco. And so I'm looking at the report, and I wanna point out something in the report for everybody that I'm I'm surprised that there was no pushback from council on. So it says under sustainable opportunities, environmental, no direct environmental impact.

1:02:40 – 1:03:1734

And so hundreds of jobs to increase the tax city's tax revenue significantly at North Greatway, and you really you think that's really credible that there's no environmental impact from hundreds, hun thousands of car trips a week and trucks? This report is deficient. And I'm grievously disappointed that in the wake of Obot building a coal terminal here that we have not can to learn enough to care about the West Oakland community when some corporation comes dancing in front with a couple of dollars. We're ready to get sold out. We get we endure the fires at Schnitzer.

1:03:17 – 1:03:5734

We've got a coal terminal coming. We've got an aggregate pile coming. And now you're gonna propose instead of allowing cast who which has been we have wanted to move there for decades. People in this community have been fighting for decades to get that gross polluter from out of their backyard onto that site, because that property is now just given away to a trillionaire corporation. Now I'm all for jobs. I'm all for tax revenue. I'm all for all of these things for Oakland. But why is it that West Oakland always gets the doo doo and city hall gets the revenues? So I get why people are excited to have Costco in Oakland. I'm excited to have Costco in Oakland too.

1:03:58 – 1:04:4234

But my mama said, it ain't always what you do. Sometimes it's how you do it. And this process has not been doing well by the people in West Oakland that have been in this environmental justice fight for us and our neighbors and our mamas and our daddies and our kids for decades. So where is that report from 2022 that the city council got that talked about the exception to the surplus lands act? Where's the information that the developer was distributing in council chambers last week? There'll be a meeting held in a couple days that any of us who are out of town won't be able to attend. We haven't seen the presentation. We don't have the information. Slow down. Engage with the community. No more coal in Oakland. No more gross polluters without community engagement.

1:04:430

Thank you for your comments. Jennifer Finley, you are next. I have you with multiple cards for the maximum amount of time. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

1:04:59 – 1:05:2135

Jennifer Finsley, District 2. Council member Wong, I'm, watching your votes as well. I'm very disappointed thus far. Really disappointed with the council's it's despicable. It's absolutely despicable.

1:05:21 – 1:05:5435

There are 36 items on this consent calendar. 36 items. People get matched three minutes to speak on all of this. The it's one more way that you are trying to bypass public input and public awareness of what council is up to so that you can pass through whatever you like with whatever rules you're making up at the time. You've got local emergency on homelessness, but we are pushing the encampment abatement plan.

1:05:54 – 1:06:2335

We're trying to get rid of encampments. It doesn't even mention the people. Business tax relief. Why why are we doing this? Campaign reform, why are we putting more money into elections and politics? Do we need more mailers? Do we need more corruption? What are we doing here? I support the Costco ENA. There's a CUPS grant on here for helicopter a million dollars of helicopter maintenance nearly.

1:06:24 – 1:06:5335

What happened to the fixed wing aircrafts and the plan to retire the helicopters because they were too expensive to maintain? The the fire code, I just wanna echo what the advocates said earlier regarding the width of the streets and the safety. I we need more traffic calming and road diets. We don't need to be widening streets right now. That's just bringing up risk.

1:06:54 – 1:07:3935

And because of the timing of this meeting and because I don't know that I'm going to be able to be here later, I will also ask through the chair, why isn't the privacy commission report about the flat cameras in the agenda packet? We've got 14 attachments on an item that was brought in with almost zero notice because of how you're spitting the rules after it was voted down multiple times after hundreds of people have spoken. Why isn't the privacy report privacy commission report that where they voted down voted down this recommendation with a number of concerns and a far more detailed discussion than anybody has had a council? What are you doing here? This isn't okay.

1:07:3935

Council member five, you have been holding it down for us. You have a fight. We are with you. Please stand firm today. I'll leave it there.

1:07:520

Thank you for your comments, miss Finley. Moving to our next speaker. Just gonna confirm. Ralph Brown, did you submit a card? If so, under what name?

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Yes. I did under Ralph Brown given that this

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Do not have a card for you. I apologize. Moving to our next speaker who signed up, Jack Fleck. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

1:08:19 – 1:09:0137

Yes. This is Jack Fleck. I'm with 350 East Bay, and I just wanna thank the council for moving item five twenty nine up to a resolution today. And and I'd just like to encourage all of the council members to read the excellent staff report by Shana Hirschfield Gold that explains why this is consistent with the Equitable Climate Action Plan and why it's important for Oakland to pass this. And, also, I want to just mention that in regard to the concerns about equity that have been expressed by at least one speaker, there is a phrase appropriate amendments that would allow appropriate flexibility to ensure equity and business development.

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So urge you to vote for item five twenty nine. Thanks a lot.

1:09:080

Thank you for your comments. Mike Marcus Johnson, you are next. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

1:09:16 – 1:09:5338

Thank you. My name is Marcus Johnson. I have provided, and sent an email to council members and staff with recommendations about 5.28, And I'm hoping that the council members and staff will take the time and read the email with the letter that identifies some concerns that I think are worthwhile for, considering this ENA. Thank you. That's it.

1:09:550

Thank you for your comments, mister Johnson. Colleen Corrigan, you are next. I have you with one card. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

1:10:04 – 1:10:2539

Thank you, everyone. Good afternoon. My name is Colleen Corrigan, and I'm here to comment on item five twenty nine. I work for the Civic Policy Research and Advocacy Organization, SPIR, and I'm also an Oakland resident and public health professional. I wanna thank the city council for championing this issue and prioritizing the health, safety, and sustainability of Oakland for future generations by supporting the Bay Area Air District rules nine four nine six.

1:10:26 – 1:11:0439

The transition to Xerox appliances is projected to avert fifteen thousand asthma attacks and up to eighty five premature deaths annually in California with a total annual health benefits of up to nearly $900,000,000. You'll hear people in industry opposition like those today say it can't be done or that it's too complicated or difficult, but the evidence in the marketplace and workforce is pointing in the absolute opposite direction. And the flexibility amendments discussed last week at the Air District Stationery Source Committee meeting will provide much needed exemptions for space and electrical constraints as well as low income residents. These equity mechanisms will reinforce broader adoption of fair access. Thank you again for your leadership in spearheading this important work.

1:11:100

So, Colleen Nolan, did you have a card under a different name?

1:11:1531

No. I did not.

1:11:170

Thank you for your honesty. Nita, did you submit a speaker card or if so under what name?

1:11:2540

I did not but I would like you to explain how I can please.

1:11:300

Please email cityclerk@oaklandca.gov and we can assist you with speaker speaker card instructions.

1:11:400

this time all names have been called.

1:11:43 – 1:12:214

Thank you. Thank you for everybody that came out to speak. I am happy to say this is one of the first times every single item has gone through committee with the exception of 5.1 which is the meetings, meeting minutes, 5.2 which is a standard declaration of AIDS academic, 5.3 declaration of cannabis health emergency, and 5.4 the local emergency on homelessness. So, item on the agenda went to committee. So everyone had an opportunity to comment on every item that was on consent.

1:12:21 – 1:12:354

So appreciate that and noting the amendments with 5.28 if there are no comments to the from the council members, I'll entertain a motion. No. No. No amendments. I'll entertain a motion.

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So moved.

1:12:394

Council member five. I

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wanted to ask you to clarify what you said about 5.28 for the Costco item.

1:12:494

So I thought there were amendments from the staff but those were not amendments.

1:12:52 – 1:13:231

That's why I wanted the staff to clear clarify. That was not an amendment. It was a just a reiteration of why there was not we didn't need surplus lands act exemption for residential construction. I I did have some some comments to make. I I was hoping that the Department of Transportation staff could answer a few questions about one of the items on consent.

1:13:23 – 1:13:381

I'm trying to find the exact number for the I think it's item 5.1 regarding the 27th Street construction if we could have Department of Transportation staff answer a few questions.

1:13:39 – 1:13:594

Is there someone here from DOT that can respond to the council members questions? Gayle that was president Pro Tem Gayle that was the second, is that correct? Thank you. Director Rowan.

1:14:01 – 1:15:011

Thank you for being here. This this question is specifically about the fiduciary responsibility of the city and what I'm sure many in the public have seen with an accident that occurred near Hayward, California with the company that we are giving a contract awarding a contract through this consent calendar and I just wanted to get your feelings around if the the company Redswick has all of the appropriate insurances and and different things as they were the company that was working in Hayward when the explosion took place and for I'm not exactly sure of what happened. I was just asking for you to give us your confidence in choosing that provider and to let the city council know if there's anything that we should be concerned about with the process that you went through for selecting the the vendor.

1:15:02 – 1:15:2741

Through the chair to the council member, I I actually don't I'm I'm presuming you're talking about the gas line explosion in Hayward. We we don't have any details on what's happened there. I think that's an active investigation. As far as the contract goes with City of Oakland, that's that is all vetted during the contract execution process that they provide the necessary bonds, they provide the necessary insurance that to meet the the city's requirements.

1:15:28 – 1:15:441

So is there any urgency to award this contract immediately? Would it have any impact if we were to wait for that investigation to conclude to ensure that we are making the right choice company that we choose?

1:15:45 – 1:15:5741

I I would leave that to the the discretion of the city council. I I have I have no knowledge of what happened in Hayward and I I I don't think it's wise to ascribe fault at this point during an active investigation.

1:15:57 – 1:16:121

Sir, no no no. I didn't do that. I'm asking is there an urgency? The question this very specific question that I asked was is there an urgency in this moment to award a contract and wait for the conclusion of this investigation?

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Urgency.

1:16:131

There's no urgency?

1:16:1543

Correct.

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Okay. So what what impact would it have on projects in the Department of Transportation if we were to wait until the conclusion of this investigation to find out what happened there?

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You would just see it through the chair, you would just see a delay on this specific project.

1:16:33 – 1:17:091

And what is the totality and I'm I'm asking chair, I apologize. So that we are doing our due diligence and ensuring that I I I just see a potential headline after this. If if there is anything that comes out that could implicate the city of Oakland in this decision. The the scope of the project would not have any negative impact if we were to potentially wait to go into contract with this particular vendor?

1:17:09 – 1:17:2541

Through the chair. The the only the only negative impact would be delay, but it's not like this is part of a series of projects. This is a a complete street safety project. So the the existing conditions as it stands today would just continue.

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Okay. Thank you.

1:17:31 – 1:17:484

Council member, are you inclined to not vote on this right now? I do believe this is in your district and I believe as the council member of the district you should have priority in saying what we should do. Is that the will?

1:17:48 – 1:18:321

Well, and see that's the concern because I also don't want to cause any particular strain on residents that are expecting a certain timeline, but I that was a major incident and I want to understand what happened and who was at fault. That is we will never know. And I'm not saying that the vendor had any responsibility at all, but I'm saying I want to know before I make a decision to give $10,000,000 to an organization when there's there's this investigation that's ongoing. So I would ask that we pull that item for now. This this is in my district.

1:18:33 – 1:18:561

I need this this incident just occurred. I didn't expect it. So I need a little more time to kind of think about the direction. So if we could pull the item from the consent calendar at the very least and have a little bit more conversation with the body about how this moves forward, I wanna find out if that's possible through the parliamentarian.

1:18:57 – 1:19:1331

The opportunity to move things from consent to non consent is under modifications of your agenda. So the time for that has passed which of course if it's the will of the body you could pull this item or defer it to another meeting at a later date.

1:19:141

I think I would like to do that. Council president Jenkins.

1:19:17 – 1:19:374

Absolutely. To the motion and the seconder, are you guys okay with that? Okay. Alright. So noting 5.1 will be removed and put to the next city council meeting. Is that January 8? Sixth. Sixth. Oh, that's early. Alright. Council member Houston.

1:19:38 – 1:20:0812

Yeah. Mine is just a little bit different than I heard the the audience, and I don't agree with mister Hazard much, but about waiving why are we waiving and continually waiving the SLBE and the LBE. Mine is a little bit different. 2001, we came up with the SLBE and the LBE twenty four years later and you saw these young men coming up here with opportunities getting these opportunities from Oakland. And that's what we need to do.

1:20:08 – 1:20:2912

We need to be embracing these SLBEs and LBEEs that's gonna give our youth, you saw them, they got up there and spoke. The opportunity to build a skill set so we don't continue continue to wave this over and over and that's my pet peeve.

1:20:304

Thank you. Any more comments from the council members? Seeing none we have a motion and a second as amended.

1:20:37 – 1:21:040

Just noting that the motion now moved by council member Ramachandra and seconded by pro tem Gayo to approve the consent calendar and continuing item 5.1 to the next meeting which will be January 6. Council member Brown? Aye. Council member Fife? Aye. Council member Gallo? Wait a minute. Council member Gayle?

1:21:0444

Aye. Council

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member Houston, you're in the queue. Did you need to speak again?

1:21:1112

Was that no. I'll say aye.

1:21:130

I'm sorry. Aye. Council member Ramachandran? Aye. Council member Unger?

1:21:220

Council member Wong? Aye. And chair Jenkins?

1:21:26 – 1:22:410

Motion passes as amended with a vote of eight ayes. Going to we are moving out of order. Going to item nine. Adopt a resolution approving the Oakland Police Department surveillance use policy, section d g o, sections one through 32.1, community safety camera system and the acquisition of security cameras and related technology awarding a two year agreement to flock safety for acquisition of automated license plate reader and pan tilt zoom cameras, operating system technology and rate related services at a cost not to exceed $2,252,500 in waiving the competitive multi multiple step solicitation process required for the acquisition of information technology systems and waiving the local and small local business enterprise program requirements. You have a 142 speakers on this item.

1:22:45 – 1:23:004

Please proceed. Whose you or Josh? Who's taller, you or director Rowan?

1:23:00 – 1:23:3145

Got to check. Not sure. Good afternoon everyone. I am Lieutenant Gabriel Arquiza from the Oakland Police Department's Real Time Operations Center. I'm the commander of that unit, as well as working within the ceasefire section. I'm here to present the community safety camera system policy, as well

1:23:31 – 1:24:1445

the flock contract related to ALPR and the flock operating system. So just a little background on this. The AOPR system was originally approved back in 2023, but wasn't enacted until July 2024. At that time, was a rather unique circumstance where CHP actually paid for the initial year subscription for the service as well as the installation of the original 290 ALPR systems within the city of Oakland. CHP also installed their own set of cameras on freeway, on ramps and off ramps.

1:24:14 – 1:24:5945

Since then this system is operated, the data still belongs to the city of Oakland, but that initial year of service was provided by CHP. Just speaking about the actual ALPR system that exists now, the cameras are designed to take photos of the rear of the vehicle and capture that license plate of the vehicle. The data that's captured by flock al p r is owned by the customer, in this case the city of Oakland. The data is retained through the flock safety system for a or for thirty days. If the data is determined to be related to an investigation, it's downloaded and then retained as evidence through a separate system consistent with other electronic data evidence.

1:24:59 – 1:25:3645

The data is only downloaded or saved if it's determined to be evidence of an investigation. California law enforcement agencies wishing to access OPD's data must complete a sharing request. The requesting agency is then required to affirmatively confirm they will follow state law related to the use and sharing of AOPR data in relation to senate bill 34 and an s b 54 that is the California Values Act. Federal and out of state agencies are prohibited from accessing OPD's data through FLAC. Originally, the department itself was managing to make sure that did not occur.

1:25:36 – 1:26:1245

The system now is in place where federal agencies or out of state agencies cannot even request to access OPD's data or any department within the state of California. I don't think my clicker's working. What ALPR does not do. So flock ALPR is not designed to capture photos of people. It does not utilize facial recognition technology on any of its platforms.

1:26:13 – 1:26:3845

The data is not searchable by demographic data. And then flock ALPR does not include any personal identifying information. And then as well Flock ALPR does not contain or capture DMV data or Oakland Police's own record management system data. So it's not accessing, it doesn't have access to any of our reports information that would be connected to a particular vehicle.

1:26:394

lying. Order in the chamber. That is your first warning. Next warning you will be asked to you will be removed.

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As I said, the system was put into place in July 2024. There was an annual report that was conducted related to the use of the technology between July 2024 and December 2024. And doctor Beckman from OCA police is here to discuss that annual report and the information that was contained.

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I'm Doctor. Carlo Beckman, project manager at the Oakland Police Department. So the annual report that we did covered the time period of July 2024 through December 2024. During that time, there were a 88964975 license plate reads. The top five alerts that we had were stolen plates which came in at just over a 187,000, non owned custom hot list alerts which created alerts created by other agencies using flock and shared with OPD.

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That was 28,600. Stolen vehicle alerts were 23,000 a 179. And hits from OPD custom hot lists were fifty seven ninety nine with 2,300 over 2,300 felony vehicles. At the time of the report, OPD had shared access with 50 agencies. Based on crime data and identifying main egress and ingress locations throughout the city, the 290 cameras were originally deployed within their six respective areas as follows. Area one had 44 cameras. Area two had 57. Area three had 23. Area four had 55. Area five had 51.

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And area six had 60. OPD conducted an internal audit, a statistically relevant audit of three ninety eight internal historical searches. 99% of those included a report number or incident number and 97% included the penal or vehicle code as required by our policy. At that time we had about two forty six users who had been trained and a random statistically valid sample of those 25 users found that all had completed the required training. At the time of this report, OPD logged a total of two forty enforcement actions based on part of FLOC.

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Based on these actions OPD was able to generate a 112 leads, 55 were cleared by arrests, 34 were cleared by other means such as vehicle recovery, 31 were at the time in progress investigations and eight warrants were issued. The summarization of all of these outcomes showed that we made 98 arrests, recovered 32 guns, sorry, recovered 32 vehicles and 29 guns.

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And one important thing to note is that we didn't fully release this to the entire department until around January 2025. The initial rollout was intentionally slowly done throughout the department starting first with admins moving to criminal investigation divisions to our specialized units cease fire and our special resource sections. And then once we felt we had a good grasp on the auditing and controlling the system, we released it to initially supervisors and patrol, the commanders of or watch commanders, and then eventually to patrol officers. And that began in January 2025. Just an update.

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So since since that time or during the entire period, there's been 232 arrests that were linked with the AOPR alerts. 68 firearms were recovered in that time period. There were 17 arrests that were specific specifically related to homicides, a 108 arrests specifically related to robberies, and then 573 successful outcomes that were logged through the system, which included 400 for twenty twenty five year to date. One of the main intent of putting the system in was to address specific robbery series and carjackings. So we did an analysis related to robbery series as we put the system in place and then for this year.

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So if you looked in 2024, Oakland experienced 14 different robbery series incidents and these are series robberies that include four or more robberies. Of those robbery incidents that included a 172 separate robberies. Of those series, ALPR was utilized in 10 of those 14 series. Series. In eight of those 10 cases, ALPR directly contributed to the recovery of suspect vehicles as well as the arrest of suspects from those cases.

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Looking at twenty twenty five's data, the number of robbery series dropped from 14 to six. The series of six included 46 individual robberies. An ALPR played a critical role in all of the investigations related to those series and five of those investigations led to the identification and arrest of those involved. The other practical use of this system is by agencies that partner with us within the city Of Oakland. The two main agencies that we speak about the most is the Alameda County Sheriff's Office and the California Highway Patrol.

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There is a specific unit that's addressing stolen vehicles within the city Of Oakland and also the rest of the Bay Area. That's a task force that includes Alameda County Sheriff's OPD and CHP. With utilizing ALPR data, they made a 110 separate arrests related to stolen vehicles. They've recovered approximately 1,100 vehicles and estimated that a quarter of those vehicles that were recovered unoccupied were as a result of falling up on an ALPR alert. One thing that's important to notice through or from 2024 we had a 42% decrease in stolen vehicles overall within the city of Oakland.

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And if you look at compared to 2023, that's a drop from, that's a 58% drop where we had 11,986 stolen vehicles in 2023 compared to 2025 where we saw 5,025. So moving on to the community safety camera system. So just background on this originally, I wasn't involved in the beginning of the Flock LPR acquisition. I was brought in later when we were talking about implementing the system. But then part of that was talking about integrating community cameras from the downtown business bids.

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And that was work that had been in progress for probably the last five or six years at least. Talking about how we can integrate those systems, how they can best be used, and then the privacy concerns surrounding them. So the community safety SAMR system is separate from FLOCK ALPR. They both run under the flock operating system. I try to compare it to something like a phone. The phone is the platform and the operating system that runs it is what allows you to use separate apps on that device. So there's three elements. There's private owned camera or managed devices. There's department owned managed devices. And then the integration platform itself that allows those devices to be shared within one system.

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Related to the community or privately owned devices, it requires an affirmative opt in to share access to historical and real time data. And what's very important to note is that the owner or manager of that device continues to retain ownership over that data. So that data is not being saved through the flock operating system, that's being saved by the owner of that device and is basically providing a window for OPD to access that related to specific investigations. That data is only saved and downloaded if it's determined to be evidence related to a specific investigation. And then like I said with ALPR data, if it's downloaded from this system, it's placed into a separate cloud storage platform consistent with other electronic data.

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Participants do not have access to the OPD system or any of the other participants data. Only OPD has direct access to the data captured by its devices. These would be 40 additional pan tilt zoom cameras that would be placed within the city to basically support or supplement existing camera systems in areas that don't have significant camera infrastructure. The data is only retained for thirty days unless determined to be evidence. Never retained on a separate storage system.

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And then unlike FLOC ALPR, the data is not searchable by any other agency. So any camera that belongs to the department itself is only accessed by the department and any cameras that are sharing into the system would only be accessed by the department.

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That's a warning. The next one you will be removed.

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The flock operating system itself, so it's a technology platform allowing for the integration of the community safety camera systems. That's both the department managed systems and the part or camera systems that are owned by the community. There's a potential of integrating additional systems in the flock operating system for a more comprehensive and cohesive approach to addressing crime within the city. CS camera system data is not searchable or accessible by any other agency. And then within the agency itself that access is tiered where tier one personnel would be able to access live and historical data.

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With tier two access allowed for only historical data consistent with how we do physical canvases for video currently. As part of this we did extensive data analysis related to crime. The real time operations center began kind of as a concept at the 2023 where we saw a large increase in specific crimes, specifically carjackings and robberies. We continue to dealing continue to be dealing with a high rate of homicide. We had 125 homicides in 2023.

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So part of that was determining why there had been such an increase since 2019, where we saw low homicide numbers between 2016 and 2019. What strategies we had been using at that time. How we could reallocate existing resources to address those challenges, or if we could replicate that presence in the community utilizing technology. So specifically we're looking at the role of data as far as where we could put our efforts and which communities, which areas that were affected the most. And using data that influence our strategy as far as where we were placing units or where we could potentially place technology.

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As referred to earlier, we specifically started with homicides. If you see between 2017 and 2019, we had 75, 75, and 78. And then we saw a steep increase in 2020 with the highest in 2021, and then a continued similar level of violence with 2022 and then 2023. And as you can see we implemented flock midway through 2024 and you see a significant drop off immediately following. Related to carjackings, this is one of the other intended uses for the system.

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We saw in 2023 there was 513 carjackings, armed carjackings. In the first six months of 2024, we were actually averaging 40 carjackings per month. As soon as the system was turned on in July we saw a steep drop to 24 carjackings per month. We've seen that continue into 2025 where we're averaging 17 and we've seen single digit carjackings in months where we haven't seen that since pre COVID. This is year to date data.

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I try to keep this consistent with the previous reports. So this is from 2023 up until October and similar for 2025. But there are 568 carjacking robberies in 2023 up until October. And then you in 2025 there was 192 through the same time period, which shows a 66% decrease in carjackings. In 2025 there's been a 41% decrease overall in robberies, and down 53% overall from 2023 to 2025.

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It's important to note that that 53% difference is 3,047 robberies in 2023 versus 1,416 in 2025. As part of the analysis we are looking to other cities to see how they may be affected by similar challenges. As part of that analysis we saw that Oakland was far higher in the robbery rate than other cities in the Bay Area and also throughout the country. If you see the robbery rate per 100,000 in Oakland was six fifty four, where San Francisco was two fifty four, Chicago was 89, and then other cities like New Orleans were 131, Cleveland was I think the closest to us at 382. But it just showed that while we were seeing progress, we were still continuing to deal with challenges specifically related to robbery which was rather unique to Oakland itself.

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Looking at further who was most affected by those robberies. In 2025 up until October, 55% of the total robberies in Oakland were targeting Latino members of the community. And we saw that they far led any other group. The second most impacted group were black members of the community with 19% of the total robberies affecting that community. This illustrated that robbery had a far greater impact on particular communities of color.

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And which was kind of counter to some of the narrative that we've seen before. Specifically related to shootings, this is 2025 data through October. We saw that black members of the community had been shot 158 times. These were for injury shootings not just regular shootings. That was sixty four percent of all shootings, which was followed by Latino members of the community which was the number of 62, which was right around twenty percent.

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Overall we looked at the communities that were most impacted by homicides. We've looked at this before as part of the ceasefire strategy, but we wanted to do a reassessment over this time period from 2023 until now. If you looked at 2023, a hundred and twenty five of those homicides, a hundred sixteen of those victims were people of color, which represented ninety three percent of all homicides. In 2024, that number was eighty five. We saw seventy five of the homicides were people of color, which represented 88% of all homicides in Oakland.

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And then looking at through September 2025, 51 of those homicides, or there were 51 homicides, forty nine of those victims were people of color which represented ninety six percent of total homicide. Where we saw that we were making progress, if you looked at October 2023 there were 104 homicides. And then through October 2025 there were 55 which is a 47% decrease. Since that time we're up to 63 homicides as of the last report. And we're down from 120 which is still 47%.

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The use of technology continues to be utilized for addressing violent crime, but it's also still being committed to the multi pronged and holistic approach by the entire city of Oakland in keeping with the cease fire strategy. And I just made this chart. One of the primary uses of this technology is specifically for deterrence and an enforcement where deterrence is ineffective. But the concept of deterrence is leveraging technology and allocating resources that demonstrate OPD's capability of detecting and addressing violent or disruptive criminal activity to the point that those involved in those activities choose to either discontinue their involvement or operate elsewhere. Related to accountability, we're focused and using focus and precise accountability for those who are specifically involved in violent and criminal activity by way of informed and focused enforcement with an emphasis on mitigating collateral impact on the community.

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And we intend to use technology and leverage technology to continue that focus and dedication to the ceasefire strategy. The overall goal for us is to get to this long term violence prevention with this extended holistic approach. And then we see the parallel, but also relevant efforts of DVP and other community based organizations to address violence within the community by providing intense social services to the most at risk individuals. Individuals. Related to the fiscal impact, OPD intends to utilize February over two years in city funding for the flock safety software.

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That is the flock ALPR cameras, the 290 cameras that already exist, the additional 40 PTZ cameras that would be managed by the department, and then the operating system itself to support all of those camera OPD had authorized $1,500,000 over this year and the next fiscal year specifically related to the flock. So no additional funding has been requested from the general purpose fund. The funds were already allocated in the OPD fiscal year twenty five twenty six budget. Related to contract safeguards, the data collected is property of the city of Oakland and shall not be shared with any other entity without the consent of the city. Any violation of this clause would represent a breach for contract allowing the city and department to terminate the contract and then seek potential damages.

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As part of the proposed contract, FLAC has agreed not to collect anonymized aggregated data for the purpose of machine learning. That specific clause was something that was brought up during the privacy commission meetings. And we added it to the contract and FLAC agreed to follow that. There's additional language within the contract that allows termination of the contract for the following reasons. Federal assumption, this is an extremely unlikely event that the federal government comes and takes control of whether the department or the city where we no longer can act with our own agency related to our data.

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In that case the contract would terminate. As far as contracting with the federal agency, if FLoC enters into a contract with a federal agency that invalidates or compromises the city's sole ownership of the city data, that would be grounds for termination. Additional safeguards that were put into So the city, the department continues to be aligned with the principles of the community and the city of Oakland related to immigration enforcement. By the department and city policy, OPD does not assist with any immigration enforcement regardless whether it's technology or physical assistance. The community safety camera system shall only be used to access by members of the department who are authorized to use it.

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No outside agency is authorized to use the flock community safety camera system. One of the things that came up I think during the last meeting that's been brought up during privacy commission, specifically concerns surrounding legal orders. So any data that's captured by any electronic system is potentially susceptible to legal obligation, e g court orders, search warrants, subpoenas. This not isolated to the flock operating system or flock a l p r. This includes all social media platforms, cell service providers, personal and smart phones, cloud storage platforms such as iCloud and Google, and privately managed camera networks.

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As the city is the owner of the data captured by flock devices, the city of Oakland would be served the legal order unless prohibited by law. The city of Oakland city attorney office would have the ability to challenge, contest the legal order when appropriate. It should also be noted the state attorney general office has shown a willingness and ability to challenge federal overreach by way of legal intervention. Related to staffing, we looked at staffing from the last two years. In January 2024, OPD sworn personnel levels were at seven eleven, that's seven eleven on paper, which is 89 fewer than the last proposed staffing study suggested.

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In October 2025, OPD sworn levels were down to 636 sworn officers with an operational staffing level of 509. Since that time we have dropped down to six eighteen sworn staffing positions with four ninety seven operational staffing. At these numbers we've had to start disbanding many of our specialized units And with this trend that will continue into next year. Part of the urgency for us was how quickly our progress can be released or reversed as was demonstrated in 2020. If you looked at the 2020 or 2020, there were 37 homicides.

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If you looked at 2020 you saw a large spike where we had 72 homicides occurring in that six month period. The trend continued into 2021, 2022, and 2023.

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You're out of order. Second, you're out of order. Please please please remove her. Please remove. Please proceed.

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In conclusion, OPD has seen a tremendous progress related to overall crime since we put the system into place. We believe that continuing to leverage technology will allow us to continue the progress that we've made and hold the numbers at least at what they are with the intent to push them down further. We understand that there's important balance between privacy and public safety. We remain committed to that and reassessing this system not just annually but quarterly to look and see where there can be improvements or if there are any vulnerabilities to the system itself. And with that, are there any questions?

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So council members do we want to go straight to public comment? I know that the public there's a 145 members of the public that want to speak to this. Council member Houston.

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Yes. I'd just like to thank you Gabriel for your thorough report and the clarity on our reports. You did a good job. Thank you.

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Thank you so much. So we're gonna go to public speakers. I do wanna remind the public, no matter what side you are on this issue, please respect others that have differing opinion. We wanna be able to be sure to hear everyone and as much as possible we wanna be respectful of everyone here. So madam clerk with that please call the 145 speakers in order.

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As a before I be call I call the names, I will be calling the names in batches. So please don't step up until your name is called. If you have someone ceding time to you, please state their name as you before you bring your comments so we can give you the appropriate amount of time. It is easier if you have their yellow slip and you can hand the yellow slip to the clerk representative at the table, so we can give your you your time. Again, I will be calling the names in batches so I can manage.

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Please do not step to the podium until your name is called. As with standard practice, Zoom speakers will be taken after the in chamber speakers. So if you can just raise your hand when your name is called and we will get to you after all the speakers in chambers go. Francis, Francois Luong, Jennifer Tu, Hannah Zuckerman, James Birch, Jennifer Finley, Becky Ham, Brian Culberson, Miss Asada Olabala, Marcus Johnson, Nikhil Sheel, Malcolm Jen, Linda Warwick, Laura Hill, Keon Bliss, Larry Levitt. I have that you have time seated to you by Carol l Van Steenberg.

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Carol, when Larry goes, I need you to stand up to acknowledge your presence that you are giving him your time. Linda Linder Durvian, I see that you have time ceded to you by Alexis Schroeder. Alexis, you will need to confirm your attendance and state that you are giving him your time. Ali Obad, Tuan Go, mister David Boatwright, Michael Devine, Ahmad a d or Amar d a d, Teodros Haile, Chris Moore, Deborah Gelber, Mindy Petunik, Jim Breeden, Jeffrey Angerman, Elaine Demasi, Griselda Almanza, Elizabeth Ann Corcoran, Julianna Deer, Willow Holiday, Storm Weiner, Alan Brill, Rael Atlas, Ron Strahalik, Alex, Mark Wesley Dudley, Blair Beekman, Alexandra, Jesse, Nathan n, and I will stop there. And again, please state your name before you begin.

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Please let me know if you have time seated to you. People seating time must be in the chambers or on Zoom and acknowledge that they are giving you their time. Go ahead, sir.

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Hi. My name is Francois Long. I am a resident of District 3 and a member of East Bay Democratic Socialist of America. I'm here to oppose the expansion of the FLOG contract. The entire process to bring this item forward to the council has been nothing but shameful and lacking in FX.

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The presentation that preceded public comment was misleading at best. The officer failed to demonstrate any meaningful correlation between the decreasing crime and the use of FlockOS. And it is also misleading to imply that FlockOS is limited only to ALPRs when, as demonstrated by the officer, we are planning to expand its use to private business cameras and ring cameras. As it is also misleading to say that the data would be sequestered to select officers of p OPD when OPD is a participant of

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David Boatwright, District 4. Given the recent number of tragic news reports and the high percentage of crimes impacting the less advantaged residents in Oakland. Broader installation of flock cameras will help our understaffed police department more effectively reduce crime and make Oakland safer and more attractive play and a more attractive place to live and do business. No cameras will be aimed at private residences. I look forward to hearing rational comments against these cameras. Thank you.

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My name is Michael Devine. I'm a member of the Jewish community here. I and I've been the victim of a crime a couple times in Oakland as well. I come to speak in favor of expanding and extending the flock contract. We're seeing a major uptick uptick especially recently in in violence, anti Semitic violence against Jews.

1:57:25 – 1:58:0549

We've had one major slaughter in Australia. We have another one that happened in Brown, which is was potentially a terrorist act. And that, just per recent news that I looked at while waiting, there's an interesting fact in there. They're lacking, in the Brown University mass shooting, they're lacking sufficient surveillance footage to actually find who did it. There's been already one false accusation, and and a person was taken into custody. And just recently now, the Internet is going after a Palestinian activist without evidence right now too. So this will protect us all. Thank you.

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My name is Mindy Petronuk, candidate for Oakland mayor, District 4. And I wanna give my total thanks to the Oakland Police Department because what they're doing is tremendous and what they just put forward is absolutely the truth. And right now we need these flock cameras. As demonstrated, it does stop crime. The the net the narrative that says this is gonna deport people has gotta stop.

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Because right now Oakland could become a beautiful city. We can become an a great city. But we need to have these flock cameras. We need them to both for the robberies, the crimes, the drugs. And if we stay take this as a first major step, and this is why I'm calling on the city council to absolutely support this and pass it now.

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We have to be very tough on crime. We've been too soft on crime. And right now, you know you know, I grew up in New York City, and I can tell you we can make Oakland great. I'm Deborah Gelber, district four Oakland, and I'm here to do to support the flock flock cameras and yeah. It just that was a tremendous presentation.

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One thing that I find extremely upsetting is the flippant attitude towards people dying. Deaths from crime. Violent crime. Gun violence. You know, you don't think that carjackings don't kill people? Yes, they kill people. The destruction of lives through crimes against people's businesses, home invasions. I have a dear friend that lost a son because he walked in on someone burglarizing his apartment. He was shot and killed. You you don't the flippant attitude about this, you know, because you think it's cool to be against police, you know, it's it's cool. You know, it's disgusting. It's a you need a

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Please pause time.

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Moral orientation.

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Please pause time.

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That's what I wanted.

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Please remove the gentleman over there. He's been giving me two, three warnings. Please remove him. You were removed. Thank you.

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Ma'am, ma'am, when you have fifteen seconds for you have fifteen seconds remaining. Please address the chair.

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Okay. So I just wanted to say to other people who wanna talk about the question of privacy, your cell phone invades your privacy more than any flock camera is ever going to. It follows you everywhere, folks.

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Good afternoon. My name is Ali Obad. I'm the president of the small merchant chamber of commerce. Also, as a business owners, that is the least that we can ask from the city council to approve the flag cameras to deter criminals from doing crimes in Oakland. There's no such thing as for ICE, FBI, or other federal agencies that that hold p that hold people information get hold get a hold get a hold of people information from the fly cameras data.

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All the agencies already have knows what time you sleep, what time you eat, what time you you take a shower. TVs at homes are sharing your information. Phones are sharing your information. Credit debit card shares your information. If the city councils don't approve the flight cameras, then we will be headed to Washington DC to ask Donald Trump to send us the national guards. And one more thing is regard and one more if you don't approve it, we will ask Trump to send the national guards. So there's no way that you cannot prove it.

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Thank you, miss Raleigh. The flag the

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flag comes.

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Your your time's up, miss Raleigh.

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Massey in District 1. Do I have a timer? Thank you. I'm Elaine Damassey in District 1. I'm here to oppose contracting with FLOC. And let me address one thing I've heard supporters say over these months of meetings. They say that our concerns for unintended releases to border patrol are unsubstantiated. No. The University of Washington Center for Human Rights reported The US Border Patrol conducted thousands of searches using data from 31 police agencies in Washington state, often without the knowledge of those agencies. Four zero four media reported last May that a locals that local and state law enforcement agencies and flock systems, Sorry for the interruption.

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Law enforcement agencies and flock systems used flock systems for over 4,000 federal searches. And it's not only newspapers and watchdog agencies that have been reporting on this. A cyber attack that breached border patrol data, releasing license plates and also photographs of faces, that was reported

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Thank you, ma'am. Do you have time to speak to you? Can you state the name?

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So I just wanted to

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the Can you state the name of the person that's seating time to you?

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George Littman.

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George Littman.

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Thank you. Our concerns are well substantiated with a bibliography that we can supply to council members if they need it and our concerns are growing so we wanna help the council members protect our privacy.

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Hi, please state your name for the record.

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Raffi Atlas, District 5. I'm gonna actually start by stating that I and many other folks here have come out in the middle of a work day, taking time off of work to do something that is not our job because you are refusing to do what is your job. And you are showcasing a blatant lack of respect by refusing to make eye contact with the speakers, by walking out of the room, having side conversations, not paying attention when this is your job. You are paid to be here. The rest of us have taken our sick time.

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We have taken our PTO to be here, to do what you are not doing. You've heard all of the arguments. You have the facts. You understand that Oakland does not feel safe with flock, with these surveillance cameras. You understand that. But I don't think you are interested in listening or being persuaded.

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When Oakland failed

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Please state your name for the record.

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My name is Tuan Ngo and I'm seated one minute from that gentleman over there. His name Seneca Scott.

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Seneca, I do not have a card for you. I apologize.

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He's in the system. So

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you have your one minute.

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When Oakland failed to get the retail death grant, governor Newsom stepped in and sent us CHP who wisely intervened to stop crime by installing Fox safety cameras which have been extremely useful at stopping repeat robberies, at helping us solve shootings and homicides, at catching bad guys on our streets. I am an immigrant. I want to be clear. No. We are a sanctuary city.

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No immigrants have been deported from Oakland because of flock safety cameras. However, many criminals, violent robbers have been taken off Oakland streets. So to say and to use the ICE Trump false narrative fear mongering on us immigrants, I'm sorry, you're not even immigrants. I was here, the lone voice at city council, at privacy commission, talking about the rent

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Thank you, mister Tuan. Thank you, mister Tuan. Tuan, thank you.

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Hello. My name is Larry Levitt, and I live on Rosecrest Drive in District 4, and Carol Von Steenberg has ceded a minute of time to me. My wife and I have lived here for more than thirty years. We've raised our family here, and we love this city. In the last few years, our home has been broken into once. Our car has been stolen for the second time. We're happy to see that crime is on its way down this year in Oakland. This year, only 1,100 people got their homes broken into. Only 6,000 people had their cars stolen. Only 1,600 robberies happened this year, and only 550 people experienced armed robberies.

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Only 225 people got carjacked while they were driving across town. Only 700 of our businesses got robbed, and happily, there were only 2,800 aggravated assaults and only four thousand seven hundred victims of violent crime. All told, we're on pace for over 26,000 crimes committed in our city this year, which will be celebrated as a good year. Let that sink in. We know every council person cares about crime and the tolls taken on our businesses, our residents, and the reputation of our city.

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Crime may be down, but we all know it's still way too high. Each of those 26,000 crimes this year has a person and a family or a business on the other end. We applaud OPD for continuing to do their best with an underfunded and understaffed force. Flock cameras are helping them. Let's assure that the flock cameras are used responsibly, but please don't take away this key tool which is helping OPD reduce crime in our city, which we all know is way too high. Thank you.

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I'm Lynn Dardarian. Alexis Schroeder has ceded her time to me. I'm the vice president of the Oakmore Homes Association in District 4. I speak for over 200 residents, some of whom are here with me today, who voluntarily donated money to install flock LPRs following armed robberies and a brutal armed assault in our neighborhood. We believe that if we had had flock cameras at that time, the crimes might have been prevented and the criminals apprehended sooner.

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Oakland has one of the most transparent civilian governed camera systems in the country. California state laws are among the most stringent and restrictive data sharing laws in the nation. As safeguards to privacy and civil rights, Oakland system has been modified and technically hardened against illegal access and data sharing in partnership with FLAC. The new FLAC contract and OPD use policy carries strong measures to protect the civil rights and privacy of everyone. Don't let misinformation deter us from using state of the art tools that help the understaffed OPD do their jobs more effectively.

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Focus on facts and accountability, not fear and speculation. Flock cameras have helped to reduce crime in Oakland. That is a fact. Please vote yes. Thank you.

2:10:56 – 2:11:2457

Hello council members. My name is James Montgomery. I want to say that for the people here supporting FLOC and the council members supporting FLOC, you are doing more to advance Trump's agenda in Oakland than anyone else. You are being foot foot soldiers of a fascist regime. They are not license plate readers, they are AI enabled surveillance cameras with a documented history of heinous privacy violations.

2:11:25 – 2:11:5957

OPD is lying to you and you're choosing to believe a department that has scandals like Celeste Guap, Fong Tran giving out bribes. Michael Chung destroying evidence. This is the department that you're choosing to believe. Flock is a billion dollar company with a vested interest in advancing a fascist agenda and you are not listening to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, these civil society groups, all of these organizations that are saying this is a heinous move and you are being anti democratic in the way you are forcing this through.

2:12:12 – 2:12:5458

Good afternoon. My name is Jeffrey Engerman. I'm a thirty five year resident of Oakland and live in District 1. We're here today to talk about crime, not somebody else's agenda. Police department's down I don't see the camera. I wanted to make sure I didn't go over my time. There we go. Police department's down 200 officers. We're struggling on the police budget. We're struggling on the city budget. We need to work smarter. We've got technology. The police department's presentation shows that it works. We don't want that to go away. We wanna help increase it. There are personal protection provisions in place in the ordinance to to for personal privacy and things like that. The city's gonna spend excuse me. I believe I have time. Oh, I'm sorry. Was that you?

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I thought somebody behind you made a comment. My bad. I apologize.

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Please proceed. Please proceed.

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I'll go real quick.

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So you guys wanna spend 1 to $2,000,000 to help small businesses grow. Right? We wanna waive the business tax and see if we can grow our our way out in revenues and not just cut expenditures. So let's help those small businesses by attacking crime.

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Plea please proceed. Somebody's rude chief of staff, like, statue. So Pardon me? No time.

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I'm right where I was. I thought it was

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Thank you.

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The people in the back. Alright.

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Thank you.

2:13:31 – 2:13:426

Council members, Heather Thomas, district four. Oakland is facing a severe capacity crisis. OPD is operating with roughly 500 officers citywide, about 28 on control.

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Chair, if we can pause, can you please wait till I call your name in the batch before you approach the podium?

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Sorry. I thought you called my name. Sorry.

2:13:54 – 2:14:160

If your name was called in this first batch, please approach the podium. Again, we have a 145 speakers, so please help me out by coming out in the batch that you were called. If your name was called in the first about 45 speakers that I call, approach the podium. One

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second, one second. Do we have someone to translate? Thank you. Thank you Director Bachelor.

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And through the chair you will be given two minutes so she will have one minute to address the council and then you will have one minute to translate.

2:15:17 – 2:15:4460

you so much city council. I'm here to oppose the cameras because I believe that they are unjustly put in areas where there are high populations of immigrants to surveil our community. I believe that we are workers and we need to be respected in our communities and I don't believe that these cameras work and that they should not that you should be putting your efforts forward to things that actually work in our communities and not surveillance of immigrant communities. Thank you.

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I'm Chris Moore. Gentleman Fritz Hochfelner also ceded his time to me.

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Fred, are you in the chamber? Please raise Thank your you. Say the last name again,

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My name is Moore, Chris Moore, and then his is it's h o c h f e l l n e r.

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Can you just hand the yellow sheet? Thank you.

2:16:18 – 2:16:4061

Alright, thank you. Thanks for letting me speak today. You know, just just a couple of facts about FLAC camera. They do stop robberies. They they help and you can see, by the way, thank you OPD for your presentation, recover stolen vehicles, stop shootings and homicides, catch repeat offenders, and reduce high speed chases.

2:16:40 – 2:17:3561

We know that factually that's that's true information. You know, I get into East Oakland quite a bit and in the little Saigon district and the gentleman back behind me, doctor Kenneth Anderson with the Williams Baptist Church, He's at the start of where all the sex trafficking, sex crimes, and all of the the other broken windows and other activities happen. Flock cameras, and they're supportive of that of course because flock cameras are known to help the community and help the people and help the majority of the community to help stop crime and be able to feel more comfortable coming out in the streets again. We know from polling, 67% of the community, that's 300,000 people, but the chamber polling has said 67% of the community want more safety cameras in our community. Why do they want that?

2:17:35 – 2:18:2061

Because they're tired of the crime. They're tired of the bipping. They're tired of their favorite stores being robbed. And the fact is on of of the miss versus fact is FOX systems capture vehicle information, not personal data. We can't hear all these all this non factual information when we know talking to OPD that we have facts, it does not capture personal data. Flock also with the data sharing settings are controlled by OPD and they follow Oakland's sanctuary ordinance. And then lastly, in 2025 alone, flock cameras helped OPD make over a 100 arrests, recovered 30 vehicles, and 30 firearms. Thank you. Please support.

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Hi. My name is Amrdi Braad, AD.

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Doctor Anderson, are you seeding your time? Yes. Okay. Doctor Anderson, and then state your name for the record, sir.

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Amurdeep, a d Broad.

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Please proceed sir.

2:19:02 – 2:19:2762

Thank you. Again my name is Amriti Broad and I'm here from the business community. And I'm here to support the flock camera systems. And I wanna thank city council for a consideration today for taking your time to consider this piece. We need to support flock cameras in the system as a tool to the OPD which is understopped and need help as any systems out there.

2:19:27 – 2:20:0762

We need to ensure our local stores, mom and pop stores, our local businesses stay out here at City of Oakland to support the tax revenue, support the tax dollars. We need to support the, we need to stop the crime tourism which is coming to Oakland because of the lack of infrastructure we have in place. So that's where we need all kind of tools including flock system to support OPD. So we could outnumber the people who are coming to Oakland and causing all the damage. We don't want national guard here in city Of Oakland. We are a century city and we very well can defend it. Thank you again.

2:20:17 – 2:20:3463

Good afternoon. My name is Becky Ham, and I'm with Asian Pacific Environmental Network. I also live in District 5. I'm here today to bring up concerns with about the FLAC company and the ability of Oakland to guarantee the safety of our community. FLAC is not a secure system.

2:20:34 – 2:21:0963

On the technology side, the cameras and website are very easy to hack. Flock is an untrustworthy company. Denver City Council recently voted against renewing their contract with Flock stating that the company has demonstrated such disregard for honesty and accountability. One example of this comes from an Illinois Secretary of State audit where it's discovered that flocks secretly had been had worked with customs and border protection on a pilot program. This sort of behavior puts our immigrant community at risk. Please consider the impact of your vote.

2:21:17 – 2:21:4764

Good afternoon. My name is Hannah Zuckerman. I'm a D Two resident. The flock's contract is terrible for Oakland, and it does not keep us safe. We are seeing cities moving away from flock. I believe Santa Cruz just canceled their flock contract, paused their readers because of safety concerns. Folks have gotten up here claiming that flock cameras prevent crime. They catch the crime after it's happened. Why don't we really prevent crime by funding DVP? Violence prevention programs have been proven to slow to stop crime.

2:21:48 – 2:22:1964

I have spoken with the Fruitvale Merchants Association and they a lot of them don't believe that this contract is the right contract. They want cameras, but they don't want cameras that share data with ICE. They're immigrants. They wanna bring back the community ambassadors and see people on the street, see lights, bring back people to the Fruitvale, bring back people to our businesses, and that will help prevent crime. Okay? We do not need data being shared and license plate is personal data. It is. You're sharing personal

2:22:29 – 2:23:009

Hi. I'm Blair Beekman. It was stated at the October 2 PAC meeting that current CHP ALPR still have a three year MOU process in Oakland. As there may not be urgency, can Oakland City government please suspend this rush, confused AOPR public process and come back with this item in February, March 2026? By then, we can be working towards a more inclusive comprehensive community plan that can better consider neighborhood public safety, social services, and current best practices with tech and data.

2:23:01 – 2:23:279

I've written many recent letters that a new flock contract can be for three, six, or twelve months at this time. This can begin a community process of looking for a new ALPR vendor in the next year, we can then quickly end any new short term flock contract when a new ALPR vendor is found. If a two year flock contract will be approved today, please work with all parts of the community in the next year to begin looking for a better principled new ALPR vendor. Thank you.

2:23:36 – 2:24:0365

My name is Elizabeth Corcoran d two. Flock is a company backed by the same billionaires that backed president Trump. If we build this surveillance system in Oakland, it will be used to target our community members as it has been in other cities. In Oakland, we have made a commitment to be a sanctuary city, and that commitment includes OPD, and it includes all of you. Lastly, I have worked in public health and violence prevention for almost a decade.

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I have also been a victim of violence in Oakland. But I know, as I suspect you do too, that surveillance does not improve public safety. I urge the council to consider the measures that we know actually prevent violence. Improving streets with lighting and transportation options, parks, funding, employment opportunities, youth engagement, employing safety ambassadors and violence interrupters. These is what our dollars should be funding. This is how we prevent violence, not targeting my neighbors and lining the pockets of billionaires.

2:24:46 – 2:25:0266

Hello. Ron Strohlich, District 4. My parents were holocaust survivors. They were hunted like animals by an authoritarian white supremacist regime that hated my people because we were different. My parents were imprisoned in slave labor and extermination camps under harsh and inhumane conditions.

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We're seeing a frighteningly similar playbook in The US today with another white supremacist regime that hates immigrants and is willing to defy all decency to have them gone. Flock has shown over and over again that it cannot be trusted with the sensitive data it collects, that it is used by ICE and other agencies to detain and deport our immigrant neighbors. A yes vote on the flock contract will make you complicit in this horror show. I can assure you that history and voters will not judge you kindly. Like Richmond and Santa Cruz, I urge the Oakland City Council to do the right thing, reject this nefarious technology. It's being used against immigrants today and could easily be used against any of us tomorrow. Please vote no and reject this contract. Thank you.

2:25:54 – 2:26:4021

My name is Jesse Rosemore and I wanna get ahead of any amendments that you're about to propose after we all give public comments. We know that FLOC proposes these amendments for feckless politicians like many of you to give cover for what you're gonna do and sell out our community to ICE and the Trump agenda. I have been working very hard to reach out to you in good faith individually, all of you, to try to warn you of the dangers of FLOC And in that process, Kevin Jenkins, have you had the time to read the three page letter from Ron Wyden saying expressly and succinctly how dangerous this is? You've told me that you don't have the time for that. And Charlene Wong, your chief of staff told me that that my that because I didn't do a specific public records request that my claims are are invalid.

2:26:40 – 2:26:5821

That's absolutely not true and he was gaslighting me. And Zach Unger, me and my other District 1 residents have gotten dismissive and disingenuous arguments from you at the what you call engagement. Yet when I introduce you to a to a subject matter expert from the Electronic Foundation, you are suddenly silenced.

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Thank you for your time. Thank you for your comments.

2:27:11 – 2:27:2667

Hello. My name is Tedros Hialeah, District 5. Okay. We have two big challenges in Oakland, limited funds and limited police officers. Flock bridges both of these gaps and provides our city with a huge return on investment.

2:27:26 – 2:28:0667

Number one, we leverage the power of the Flock database covering the Bay Area, and in other words, we get access to all of the assets of multiple cities and jurisdictions at no cost. Number two, we capture actionable intelligence that OPD's skeleton crew does not have to canvas for. So with the investment of $2,250,000, we get tens of millions of dollars of safety funding in return. On the flip side, if we abandon flock, we become the one glaring surveillance hole in the Bay Area, which is a huge invitation to you know who. So, at the end of the day, crime affects all of us, the documented and undocumented, and if we don't have a vibrant, busy, safe city, none of us have anything. Thank you.

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Thank you. Before the next speaker begins, I'm going to call some more names.

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Is your name called in the first batch?

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Jessica Chin, Michael Kennedy, Broadhead, Jose Dorado, Emily Ks or Kaiz, Morgan Pike, Lou o, Michelle Williams, Zeta Mays, Nita, Marta Isabelle, Ralph Cans, Adam Wolf, Maggie Wolf, Ream Sullivan, Cat Brooks. I'm sorry. I'm gonna say your name incorrectly again. Refillay? Refillay.

2:28:50 – 2:29:350

Thank you. James Breeder, Jim Donatelle, Phoebe, Jane. It's a duplicate. Michelle Dundrawood. I have a card with no name. 4204 Highland or I'm sorry. High Knoll, Fritz, Hoffelander, Rick Bellen, Josephine Wee, Tony Trinh, g Wiz, Elizabeth duplicate. Julie Anderson, Audrey e l, Caleb, Navi, Anun Awan,

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Alexandra, District 3 or District 2. People have wrongly stated that two thirds of Oakland wants flock when the poll statistic that that data comes from never even mentioned flock. The 2025 Oakland Chamber of Commerce poll found that to varying degrees, 66% or two thirds of respondents quote favored using security and surveillance cameras with civilian oversight end quote. They did not poll for approval of the flock company, so it is a false and disingenuous claim to say that two thirds of Oakland residents support flocks or support this contract. Rather, city councilors heard a vast majority of public commenters on this item say no to flock and no to this contract.

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Vote no on this contract and start over with a process that addresses the concerns that surfaced through this public oversight process. Thank you.

2:30:50 – 2:31:1269

My name is James Breeden, I just want to clarify something first. I thought I was called in the first batch under Jim Breed, but then in the second you just said my name again in the second batch. James Breeden district two. I'm the president of Lakeshore Homes Association which installed eight cameras about two years ago. I just wanna talk about one of the serial robberies that he mentioned.

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About a year ago, we had a woman getting out of her car in front of her home, where she was accosted by a man at gunpoint. That man and several other young men walked her into her home, where she was held at gunpoint and they spent the next half hour ransacking her home while she was looking at a gun. She was worried her kid was gonna come home from school the whole time, walk into that mess. That is the kind of serial robbery that Flock has stopped. It doesn't stop crimes, gets them after the fact, but it keeps them from preventing more crimes. The police, when we we were able to tag this car because we knew the time it left and we had it off our camera, the victim was informed that

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Thank you for your comments.

2:32:06 – 2:32:2459

Councilperson Jenkins and council members, my name is Jessica Kim. I'm working in a community bank and former nonprofit, executive in Chinatown. Today, I'm here to urge councils to prove the, flag agreement. Here are the reasons. Currently, OBD has less than six fifty sworn officers.

2:32:24 – 2:33:0059

We should try to get them up while we are trying to hire more officers. Second, when we try to arrange various program to prevent crimes, we should also bring peace of mind to our citizens. Third, although it's very important to keep the individual's privacy, it's more important to provide evidence to prosecute crime and support the innocent victims. When I worked in Chinatown chambers, we were able to install some cameras at the intersection in Chinatown. It helps with some cases until today. Therefore, I would like to ask you to support the Flock cameras. Thank you.

2:33:08 – 2:33:3170

Morgan Pike, district four. I work in IT for a large healthcare organization. We have many terabytes of medical data and financial data in our custody. Securing that data is of paramount importance to my team and to me. So it is with some hesitation that I support renewing the contract with Flock, a company that has shown it cannot be trusted.

2:33:31 – 2:34:1070

Oakland has done its due diligence with the Flock contract, there's still a chance that our data will be leaked out in the various third parties. That's a risk worth taking because of the potential benefits of the system. The data at risk after all are not medical records or financial records, it is activity on public streets. An intangible benefit will be to show support for our police department. At a time with severe understaffing and high turnover, giving our police this tool will not only help them do their job, but will also show that this body and the public trusts them to use it appropriately. Thank

2:34:18 – 2:34:3471

Hello. My name is Zeta Mays. I am a resident of District 3, a voter and an ACE member. I'm here to urge you to vote no on the flock surveillance contract. The surveillance technology has already caused real harm here in Oakland and all over the country.

2:34:35 – 2:35:2071

The flock system collects a vast amount of metadata that will be further empowered by analytical AI to not only identify license plates as their claims but can also be used to track individuals through identifying markers such as tattoos, marks of any kind, clothing and can be given to law enforcement and other agencies. For peaceful protesters, mass surveillance like this kills freedom of speech. The license plate readers and Cameron Ericks have already been used across the country to monitor lawful demonstrations, identify participants and retaliate against people for exercising their constitutional rights.

2:35:32 – 2:36:0472

Hi. I'm Maggie Wolf from Maggie Takuta Hall. I live in District 1, and I'm a parent here urging you to reject Flock in Oakland. As an author for young people, I talk to them a lot, and it breaks my heart that most of them have no faith in democracy anymore because they're watching the adults around them sand it down. I keep telling them that we have to fight. They keep asking me if it'll do any good. I wanna tell them that it will, but actions like those taken by this city council has in regard to flock has made me look like a fool. So let's be clear. Oakland has already spoken. We said no to Flock.

2:36:04 – 2:36:3372

It died in committee multiple times. It has required procedural resuscitation to revive this Flock contract. It is highly likely that councilman Houston tipped his hand and accidentally admitted to violating the Brown Act at a previous meeting, which exists to protect the people's interests in order to push this through. Whether or not you personally, as a voting member today, agree think that plot cameras should exist in Oakland is irrelevant. You have a sacred duty to represent the people who the will of the people, not just the special interests of

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My name is Adam Wolf. Ray is seating time.

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Ray, you Ray.

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Can you give him your yellow for sheet because I cannot hear you.

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Ray Ray Ray K.

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So we're gonna start you with your one minute while we move through these cards to see if there's a Ray K.

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I kinda wanna know which version to read.

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Through the chair, do you wanna let the next person go first? Sure.

2:37:47 – 2:38:3175

Hi, my name is Michelle Dudgenwood, District 2 And I wanna start by asking why are we even here again with this. This has been rejected a number of times, and yet we're back here again arguing a non point. One thing I've noticed today is a lot of smug responses from the people up here. Some of you are very engaged and watching and listening and paying attention, and I appreciate that. I have been watching and I've seen several smug smug looks on your on your faces while you're listening to people who are against what you're promoting here.

2:38:31 – 2:38:5175

I think it's deplorable that we're having this meeting here on a Tuesday at one in the afternoon. We're either taking time off work or we're getting we're not getting paid to be here. This should be happening with enough announcement and in the right amount of time so that people can be here. We need to follow the money while you're

2:38:59 – 2:39:4373

Hello. I'm back. Adam Wolf, District 1. A little a little out there. I wanna focus on the logic being used to justify this expansion because I think it is deeply flawed. We're being told that because the city needs to keep the current camera system running, we must urgently expand it. But renewal and expansion are two separate decisions. The urgency here is about continuity, yet it's being used to bypass due diligence on whether expanding surveillance is actually justified. That urgency is largely artificial. We've known for a year that this contract was expiring and realistically if Oakland did not approve this expansion tonight, FLAC would absolutely work with OPD to allow interim access while the city reworked a new deal.

2:39:43 – 2:40:1173

They do this all over the country. The idea that cameras would suddenly go dark unless we rush through an expansion just doesn't reflect how these vendors actually operate. I've also heard concerns that if cameras were paused or reduced, criminals from across the Bay Area would suddenly flock to Oakland. That claim sounds intuitive, but it is not supported by evidence. Crime displacement, the idea that criminals actively seek out cities with ALPRs, has been studied extensively in The US and The UK.

2:40:12 – 2:40:3473

The consistent finding is that displacement is rare, often absent entirely, and when it does occur, it's partial, not a mass migration of crime. There's no data showing criminals monitor ALPR coverage and reroute their behavior accordingly. So pausing expansion is not reckless. It's unlikely to interrupt OPD's use at all. And even in the worst case scenario, the fears being raised aren't grounded in research.

2:40:35 – 2:41:0373

I'm probably not like most speakers tonight. I do believe that some form of interconnected surveillance is inevitable in modern society. But who builds it, who controls it, and what incentives they operate under matters enormously. Flock is a growth driven start up whose contract terms make clear this data can be compelled and turned over through legal process far beyond Oakland's control. We've already seen ALPR systems used for stalking, tracking abortions, and sharing

2:41:17 – 2:41:5976

Hi, my dear honorable council person. My name is Josephine Hui. I am the vice president of the Taishan Family Association. I am here this afternoon not not only representing myself, I am representing my my patroller team. We established in February, and we have been patrolling every day down in Chinatown to make sure the the street are safety for our residents, and and we create a good business environment for our merchants.

2:41:59 – 2:42:1876

And today, I have to thanks the OPD. They did a very good job on reporting the the report. And and we are here to support the op Oakland Police Department. We need to have cameras.

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Miss Hui, your time is up.

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Thank you for your comments.

2:42:51 – 2:43:0777

Hello. My name's Richard Ballou, district one. And, I see us talking about trust. Trust. The lack of trust in flock is appropriate.

2:43:07 – 2:43:3877

They have clearly demonstrated they can't maintain their own data. We're now talking about trust in this body. It has been brought to the privacy advisory council and got thumbs down. It got brought to public safety and got thumbs down. I don't know how many times we need to tell you a 100 of us at a time that this isn't the kind of security we want.

2:43:38 – 2:43:5477

There are other vendors. There is time to find a well engineered system to accomplish the same purposes. Ben Franklin said, those who would give up liberty for security

2:44:11 – 2:44:3378

Hi. Can I start now? Emily Katz, district one. I love this city and I've been a victim of crime in this city and I vehemently oppose flock. You know, I I appreciate the safeguards that the police department has included in the contract but I don't think they're sufficient and I don't share their trust in their vendor.

2:44:33 – 2:44:5978

Why are we shortcutting the diligence process? As others have mentioned, there's plenty of opportunity to find a better vendor to do the things that our community wants. I also, you know, I think that the the things that that we can do if they share our data in ways that we don't want, termination of the contract, all of that is after the horse leaves the barn, right? Once the data is collected, it is stored, it persists.

2:44:59 – 2:45:1578

so, you know, our recourse then to terminate the contract, the flock, is that sufficient? Does that undo harm to our community? You know, companies like FLAC and Palantir clearly share information with federal agent

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Thank you, ma'am. Your time is up.

2:45:27 – 2:45:4679

My name is Phoebe Jane. I am an executive director of ReproCare, a national abortion hotline nonprofit. We supported 4,500 abortion seekers this year and I live in Oakland. Oakland should not be setting up systems that will be used to surveil pregnant women driving to California. There is no way to exempt people having abortions from flock surveillance.

2:45:47 – 2:46:2279

When police criminalize pregnancy, they rarely cite abortion laws. They claim to investigate charges like child endangerment and murder. Abusive men use abortion bans and threats of police to terrorize their victims and flock is a great tool for them. Cops in Texas have already used flock this way after an abusive man reported his partner for getting abortion pills from California. The police used a flock search with data from other states for a death investigation into the woman's fetus then lied and said they were searching out of concern for her safety. Oakland should be a safe haven from these attacks on reproductive rights We are giving Texas cops a direct line into our streets.

2:46:33 – 2:47:1180

Audrey District 3 opposed. This proposal fails on every promise. The data is clear that creating safer communities comes from supporting community based organizations, affordable housing and violence prevention not partnering with bad tech that profits off the creation and use of surveillance infrastructure that will be exploited by federal immigration enforcement and undoubtedly other parties. The Trump administration has stated their willingness to use force to access this kind of information to attack anyone they can profit from. Considering that flock has proven itself an untrustworthy company with no credibility, this contract leaves all of us vulnerable to technology facilitated abuse.

2:47:12 – 2:47:3380

This is not about keeping us safe, this is about wealthy people finding another way to benefit at the expense of Oakland residents, wealthy people who care so little about Oakland they would bring in the national guard over a car break in who clearly don't know or have forgotten what actual harm to a community looks like. No bad contracts that hurt Oakland residents to appease the wealthy. For the third time, no flock.

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Hi, everybody.

2:47:41 – 2:48:1982

My name is, Tony Trinh. I am the executive director for the Oakland Chinatown Improvement Council. I represent over a thousand properties, 300 businesses, and 15,000 residents of Oakland Chinatown. I'm here to support FLOC OPD and City Council's amendment to to FLOC's renewal of the contract. You know, wanna tell a personal story. About thirty years ago, my grandfather got shot in Oakland Chinatown. I was on America's Most Wanted. We never caught those guys. Two years ago, I almost saw my mom die to with eight gunmen robbery, and they never got caught. And then I see the similar robberies that happened in San Francisco, San Jose, and they all have flock system, and they catch up within a week.

2:48:20 – 2:48:4282

And in Oakland, the message here is very clear. Do the crime and you're not gonna get caught. Because we don't have the technology, we don't have the infrastructure. I started this job because I was sick and tired of seeing this happen. And I'm very proud of the city council here. I'm very proud of the leadership because you guys are on the right track. So please continue this. This is the best thing that's happened for Oakland. We just need to make amendments in

2:48:53 – 2:49:2656

Julie Anderson, District 1. I'm speaking in opposition to FLAC. I understand the importance of reducing crime in Oakland but FLAC is not the way. FLAC is a private company out of Georgia. They have shared data with ICE and border control in the past. I do not believe they will honor agreements with Oakland. Tech companies have a history of lying. FLAC is a tool of mass surveillance. The ACLU oppose opposes FLAC and so do I. Thank you.

2:49:33 – 2:50:1483

Hello. My name is Jim Donatell, twenty year resident of Oakland District 2. I'm also the flock administrator for my homeowners association's Nest of eight cameras. What I wanted to share with you was an incident we were able to help OPD with, a large violent sideshow. Between 02:30 and 03:30AM, 116 cars came into our neighborhood, shooting firearms, fireworks, dangerous car driving.

2:50:16 – 2:50:3383

We took 337 scans, 5050% were tied of the scams tied to four cars. We packaged the information, gave it to OPD. They took three of the cars off the street. That's technology that works. Let's support OPD.

2:50:47 – 2:51:2584

I believe I was called, I don't know if it was pronounced Caleb Morin or Marrin. Was that Thank you. Caleb Morin, District 3. Let me say the quiet part loud. The law only bends when we break it first. The Rules Committee December 11 violated the Ralph Brown Act. Its president reneged on his promise and used his powers to hide from us. But we know how Jenkins and Houston work. They break what won't bend and confuse us for people who won't do the same. I will not repeat what thousands warn.

2:51:26 – 2:51:4684

I will restate what we know. Each flock camera is a weapon. Destroying it is self defense. How one brings down cameras does not concern me. Legality stopped mattering Thursday. Today decides only what Oakland will face, which law her people break next.

2:51:51 – 2:53:370

Thank you for your comments. Moving to the next group of speakers. June Liu, Samantha Wise, this is a duplicate, Crystal Alejandes, Valerie Bachelor, Alberta Parra Parra or Dara, Kilo Motson, Derek Barnes, Linda O, Young, Claire Rupnow, Reen Lopez, maybe Carmen, Ash w, Gina Goldblatt, Jonathan Birch, Alejandro Garcia, Paredos, Ian Bailey, Emily Rachel Coogan, Johnny Castro, Brenman Turner or Bretman, William Tamayo, Brenda Grisham, Bradley Morgan, Rajni Mandal, Heather Thomas. Is this a duplicate? James Tran, Tracy Rosenberg, Sonal C, Sierra Warwick, Rebecca Gurney, Ralph Brown, Rajni Mandal, Kevin Dally, Juan Cannon, believe that's a duplicate, Kelsey Herbert, Kate Steele, and just in case you're wondering, yes, I do have one more pile.

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So if I haven't called you, you're probably in the last pile.

2:53:47 – 2:54:3616

Good afternoon, my name is Rifeelaway. I am here once again standing in coalition with multigenerational, multiracial community from Oakland who is once again asking you to say no to the flock contract or asking you to stand with the people of Oakland and not the fascist government in office in the White House or the billionaires that are backing some of the community members who aren't even from the town that are in the room. A lot of folks aren't even trying to cover up the fact that they are in line with these fascist powers that be, saying things like they want to make Oakland great again, right? Reiterating these talking lines that say that people like myself don't matter in a city that I'm from. The first time I ever looked at a city budget was in 2012 when this city was looking to close a number of our public libraries.

2:54:36 – 2:54:4816

And the entire time I sat here I've just been thinking, man, I wish our libraries could take up this kind of time, time, energy, and effort. Libraries that provided me shelter and support and resource as a community.

2:55:00 – 2:55:3885

Well, good evening, good afternoon, city council people. I am delighted to be here. I didn't mind taking off from work because this is important and I didn't show up before but I need to show up now. I'm here. My name is Samantha Wise. I live in District 6. I have a business in District 3 and I have a rental property in District 7 so I'm all over the place. I've been in Oakland for fifty six years so I know what it looked like and I know what I want it to look like today. And I'm here in support of approving the flock safety camera program. As a lifelong Oakland resident, business owner, nonprofit leader, mother, grandmother, all of these things, safety is important.

2:55:38 – 2:56:0485

And I know it's not gonna deter crime, but when I was against it originally until they told me they stopped a car that had somebody's daughter in it, She was being trafficked. And when they were able to pull that license plate and pull that guy over, that girl was brought back to her family. And so for me, it's about safety. And for me, it's about you guys doing the right thing. If we can save somebody's child and bring them back home from being trafficked

2:56:12 – 2:56:4560

Good afternoon. My name is Valerie Bachelor, and I'm a District 6 resident, voter, and director of ACE Oakland. I wanna remind this council that this surveillance technology has already been illegally used right here in Oakland. A lawsuit filed in Alameda County confirmed that OPD illegally shared flock license plate data with federal agencies including ICE, including FBI, and including the DEA. According to the report by the Oakland Standard, OPD allowed the database to be used 200 times for federal investigations including explicitly ICE cases.

2:56:46 – 2:57:1360

That means immigrant families in my district and across this city were exposed to deportation risk without being suspected of a crime. Again, as other folks have also mentioned, this is putting women like myself at risk because, again, this is creating a paper trail in order for folks that are seeking abortion care and also for protesters that are peacefully protesting and using their first amendment rights. So as a District 6 voter, I refuse.

2:57:180

Thank you, miss Bachelor. Your time is up.

2:58:34 – 2:59:1260

My name is Alberto Parra, and I am from District 5. And I'm a voter and an ACE member, and I'm here to urge you to vote no on the FLAC contract. This surveillance technology has already caused harm in our communities and all over the country. For immigrant communities, systems like FLAC have been used to track people for deportation even in sanctuary cities. Oakland residents should not fear driving to work, church, or school knowing that this data is going to be fed to a national system that's accessible to ICE. As an Oaklander, I don't want my city to track, target, and endanger my neighbors. We are a sanctuary city that protects civil rights and I want you to reject this contract.

2:59:20 – 2:59:5986

My name's Linda Louisa, Oakland resident. I stand against flock in Oakland. We're not fooled for a minute here. We know this information will be used by hostile agencies like the FBI, ICE, and with the orange madman in the White House, we can be sure this information will be commandeered by him. On 08/1525, the ACLU released a report that in this orange madman correction, ICE released a report that ICE is using flock to help Trump in his deportation program.

3:00:00 – 3:00:2186

Four zero four media reported that Texas law enforcement used FLOC data to track down women leaving the state to get abortions. We are increasingly turning into a big brother state. These cameras are just another invasion of our privacy. In Evanston, Illinois, Flock

3:00:280

Thank you, ma'am. Your time is up.

3:00:39 – 3:01:1287

Hello. I am Kylo Matson, and I'm a D Five resident and small business owner in D One, and I strongly oppose FLAC. I would like to address the statistics manipulation that OPD put in the supplemental presentation today. The supplemental presentation that was attached to today's meeting agenda and OPD's proposal for this $2,000,000 investment tries to cite that FLAC security can reduce crime. However, FLAC itself has made claims that their systems reduce crime by 70% in San Marino, California, yet other outlets show that crime increased there by 5%.

3:01:13 – 3:01:3887

OPD cherry picks pandemic era data and tries to say that crime was reduced by 41 to 53% after the installation of flock cameras in 2024 in California, and that in between and between 2023 and 2025, there was a 66% decrease in carjacking and robberies. Except when you compare this pre 2020 statistics to '25, there's no statistical difference. Thank you for the time. Please vote no on Flock.

3:01:47 – 3:02:1688

My name is Gina, District 2. And I just wanna point out the wording of urgency that we've brought this meeting again today for the third time when it has been turned down by Oakland people and that is what is urgent to the folks that are pushing this forward. So I would just like to turn the gaze at the people who see that as urgent. What is actually urgent right now is that we keep ice the fuck out of Oakland. That's not happening.

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And also, I would like to remind you that we are not stupid and that we know history. There is a history of folks being corrupt on this body and using this as a way to put money in their own pockets. So who is whose payroll are you on? The people pushing this forward? That's what I wanna know, and we're watching for that.

3:02:44 – 3:03:1989

Hi. My name is Brad Morgan. I'm a resident of District 4 in Oakland and I love this city. And thank you all for your time here. Our neighborhood invested in flock cameras, and these have already helped identify suspects, car thefts, break ins, and other incidents. And, OPD having access to this has been a critical part of that. Now, I understand concerns about privacy. It's worth noting that mobile devices prove more against privacy than do FLAC cameras. Yet, we all use smartphones daily. Let's keep perspective when we debate public safety tools.

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Alright. FLAC has a strict policy against this. It only captures license plate. National studies have shown that it actually helps solve roughly 10% of crimes across the nation. These technologies are going to be used. We rather than ignore it, let's use them for the public good with clear oversight and privacy protection as is in the contract.

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Thank you.

3:03:51 – 3:04:0890

My name is Jonathan, District 2. Thank you for my one minute, your majesties. I wanna start by sincerely thanking you, Carol, for being the only city council member here with a semblance of integrity. To the rest of you, we will remember this when you're up for reelection. Now I wanna know why you keep changing the times for this meeting.

3:04:08 – 3:04:4890

Why does it feel like you're trying to pull a fast one on us, and why does it feel like you have such disdain for us, especially when we make the obvious connections between Palestine, Palantir, and the pigs we have here. You won't gaslight us into believing this is about local public safety when in Dublin, as we speak, they are having comment on turning the disgraced women's detention center into an ice slaver ice slave labor camp. This is what these cameras will be used for. In conclusion, it doesn't matter what you look like. If you as a politician cede power to a fascist Nazi regime, guess what that makes you? A Nazi. And if you choose to do bidding for the CEOs of Palantir, I wanna tell you you're not on their team and you're not on their level. They don't usually walk among us, but you live in our neighborhoods and will remember your faces. Thank you.

3:04:58 – 3:05:416

My name is Heather Thomas. I'm a District 4 resident and I'm asking the city to choose evidence over ideology when it comes to public safety. Oakland does not have the staffing to respond in real time. OPT has 500 officers citywide, roughly 28 on patrol per shift, zero in my neighborhood. That is our reality. When response isn't possible, evidence matters. Flock cameras are vehicle focused tools. They are not facial recognition and not people tracking. They capture cars and license plates with time and location giving police a way to identify suspects when officers cannot be there, which is most of the time. Residents support using technology to improve safety.

3:05:41 – 3:05:586

67% support monitoring privately owned cameras, 66 support automated cameras, 59% support drones. Safeguards matter. I urge the council to approve OPD access to flock data, choose evidence over ideology.

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Thank you.

3:06:07 – 3:06:3791

My name is Young. No on flock. The city of San Jose is facing a APLR lawsuit brought by ACLU and EFF on behalf of an immigrants rights group. In the complaint, cites that SJPD allowed 4,000,000 searches in their ALPR database over a period of twelve months. This is like Oakland, San Jose brags itself on being a sanctuary city.

3:06:37 – 3:07:1091

You're you're going down the same route as San Jose and facing another lawsuit. The second point I want to make is that flock fearmongers about only, or one type of crime, street crime while ignoring the costly white collar crimes like identity theft. And AARP reports that the cost of identity theft to individuals amounted to 43,000,000,000 in 2023. And so FLOC is its predatory business model in

3:07:19 – 3:07:4192

Hello. My name is Marin Lopez, District 3, and I've lived in the East Bay my whole life. The way to decrease crime is to create social programs that uplift impoverished communities by meeting their basic housing, health, and food needs. OPD is trying to use identity politics to say they're protecting victims of color while conveniently ignoring that the vast majority of people they do and will incarcerate are black and brown. Prison is not accountability for criminals.

3:07:41 – 3:08:1892

It is punishment in the form of slave labor. We need to think critically about what crime is. Why does OPD only investigate property crime but not the billions of dollars in wage theft that is stolen from the working class every year? We must adamantly reject the narrative of understaffed police departments when the historical reality is the police across the country have never had such lavish budgets and fancy toys of violence furnished by Israel. By pushing this through after being rejected time and time again, you prove that you have a class interest in maintaining poverty because it reproduces conditions that lead people to a life of crime in the first place, which is profitable for the corporations and landowners you serve.

3:08:26 – 3:09:0893

Hello. Hello. My name is Alejandro, District 3. I'm here to encourage you all to vote no on The Democratic Party does not serve working people. They serve our tech oligarchs. Notice what was omitted by that fluff filled presentation. There was no mention of ICE accessing our data before. There are no mentions of the false positives of these cameras, and there is no mention of Flock's connection to Palantir. Our democratic politicians, which is the entire council, right, are are serving us on a platter to the prison industrial complex. This is intentional. These council members are self serving so they can enrich themselves. The USA wants to create Palestine in all our cities. We need to prevent this. Right? We can't be reactionary in how we deal with crime.

3:09:08 – 3:09:2793

Right? As other people have more eloquently stated, we need social programs. Prevention is the key. What how do you prevent? Why do people do crime? Cause they're impoverished. We we deny dignity to tens of thousands of people in the in the city. How do you expect them to survive? And you guys don't care. There's no eviction moratorium. You're not doing anything productive to help working people, and that's your MO. Shame.

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Hi. My name is Brennan. I just wanna say,

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first of all, if we have

3:09:38 – 3:10:2594

a skeleton crew, what gives us the oversight resources to enforce protections on this contract? You have repeatedly met opposition on this contract from both committees and from the general public. I noticed that you've rescheduled this meeting to the middle of a weekday, and you still ended up with almost the same amount of people coming to comment as November. The public safety situation you claim to be addressing with this contract is as real as you claim it is, so why are you choosing to bypass basic democratic standards to push for this wildly unpopular company that again a simple request would tell you has illegally leaked data as we have seen in Evanston, Illinois. You have failed to address these concerns as well as the suggestions from police response call time auditors to implement the preexisting no cost GPS technology in police vehicles to reduce call times.

3:10:25 – 3:10:3694

The refusal to hold a democratic open competitive bid for similar technology companies with legitimate privacy practices at the suggestion of council member Fife is

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Hi. My name

3:10:46 – 3:11:1796

is June Lu. Earlier I heard the cops say that license plate readers don't track faces and are not tied to AI. This is a myth they're trying to sell you. The way it works is license plate readers currently might not do that but as we heard FLoC is an operating system that retains all of our data and FLoC does work and use AI. It also uses facial recognition.

3:11:17 – 3:11:4596

It actually allows all the existing cameras. So we're looking at ring doorbells, we're looking at these license plate readers that are in place as these sort of lenses and they as the back end will use AI to watch all of us to see what we look like, how we walk and retain all that data. We live in a fascist society right now if you believe there's anything worth pushing back against all these people will be criminalized and disappeared and they're going to rely on flock to do that.

3:11:53 – 3:12:1923

Hi. My name is Ian Bailey. I would like you to consider that Flock is a private company with closed code closed source code on their application and devices that are not available to the consumer market. So if there is a security exploit in their hardware or their software, you're not gonna know about it. And there's no one looking over that stuff besides flock.

3:12:20 – 3:12:5523

And they aren't too keen on reporting any exploits in anything they make. Also consider that you could hire any company to operate your big brother cameras if that's really what you wanna do. Till I get my mic cut, I'm going to tell you about my favorite, or least favorite security vulnerabilities. One is that you can pause the app in runtime and inject malicious code. Another one is that you can enter the camera into debug mode by pressing the button in the back in the right sequence. Once you do that, you can add

3:13:03 – 3:13:170

Before the next speaker goes, Seneca Scott, we do have a a card for you. I mister Twan said you're receiving his your time to him. I don't know if you wanna give it to him or if you wanna take the time for yourself. We do have a card for you.

3:13:17 – 3:13:4122

For me? Oh, a second. I'm Juan. Unlike some of us, I am an Oakland resident. Several council members ran on cleaning up city hall and making it more transparent and yet you're bending over backwards changing your own rules in order to push through a no bid expansion of a no bid contract.

3:13:42 – 3:14:0922

This is why voters in d seven and d 80% don't bother voting. Why bother when city council is just gonna rubber stamp whatever OPD asked for? It's not exercising your democratic authority over the budget which is what you're elected to do. This is an abdication of your responsibilities. None of the data that was presented by OPD in any way justifies the 20 fourseven pan and tilt cameras they intend to deploy.

3:14:10 – 3:14:2822

I moved home in 2004. Should I get credit for the decrease in crime? Should I get 2,400,000.0? Maybe OUSD should get 2,000,000 to teach OPD how to demonstrate trends. If this passes, we will foyer the number plates of council members because that seems to be something you're all okay with. Thank you.

3:14:34 – 3:14:5426

Good afternoon. Derek Barnes, d three resident and someone running a business in Oakland. For me, public safety is violence prevention, social and economic justice, protecting the youth, and ultimately saving lives. Oakland needs to improve in all of these areas. Pay attention to public commenters and the cities, organizations, and districts they represent.

3:14:54 – 3:15:3426

As a black man in one of this country's most targeted groups, what I don't want to return to is the nineties war on crime ethos that falsely accused innocent people, locked up millions a la mass incarceration, didn't solve crimes or apprehend real criminals. FLAC helps to level this playing field. In a resource constrained city, OPD needs help and FLAC in just one of many tech tools with guardrails Oakland can use to help Oakland rise. Please advance this ordinance to give OPD the resources to build strong cases while minimizing unethical enforcement tactics. Thank you.

3:15:41 – 3:16:1044

Buenos noches, my name is Jose Antonio Dorado. I'm here to speak against flock cameras, but the question is not about flock cameras, the question is what side are you on? Are you on the side of big money and the hills and downtown interests or are you on the side of the people? The majority that live in your districts. Brown and black, low income, working people.

3:16:12 – 3:16:4244

So that's the real question, what side are you on? And many, anybody that comes up here and says that they speak for the community and are in favor of cameras are liars and hypocrites, plainly speaking. There's only one thing that you have to think about and that is how can you best serve your community and the community you see are right here and you've heard very clearly that they do not want fly cameras.

3:16:51 – 3:17:0797

Hi. My name is Alan Brill. I've seen in my forty five years here in Oakland, dozens of you sitting up here. Hi, Noel. And I wanna say that I don't wanna talk about justice.

3:17:08 – 3:17:5197

I don't wanna talk about crime control. I don't wanna talk about what's the ethical thing for you to do. You've heard that hundreds and hundreds of times, but you've chosen, a majority of you have chosen to come here today behind the democratic process to try to get something done. I'm been around long enough and I've been an activist for long enough to say that I just wanna talk about your future. Your future. Yeah. Do some of you wanna be around for a little while? You have some aspirations for the future? I wanna tell you, you passed this and we will not let you forget.

3:18:194

Mister Twine, please proceed.

3:18:21 – 3:18:4355

Time was ceded to me. One minute. I spent an entire day walking the streets of Oakland and talking to residents. Many residents and businesses cannot be here because they are working and taking care of their family. But the vast majority of people I talked to were impacted by the violence of crime on Oakland streets.

3:18:43 – 3:19:2355

I talked to immigrants. None of the immigrants have family members that were deported. In fact, zero family members have been deported in Oakland and Flock has been in operation for over a year, not only in Oakland, but in all neighboring cities of Oakland, as well as over 40 cities across the Bay Area. Flock is not some fly by night company. It has wide footprint across the entire state and the entire country and has solved over 7,000 crimes, including last month in Berkeley putting a child sex trafficker that was torching a little girl and lighting her on fire, setting her on fire.

3:19:250

Thank you, Tuan. Your time is up. Thank you. Calling the last batches

3:19:29 – 3:19:404

Hold on. Wait. Wait. Wait. Please respect speakers regardless of where you are on the item. We've done a wonderful job thus far. We're almost done.

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And just to be clear, through the chair to the members of the public, he did not speak twice. He did have a minute seated to him by mister Scott who was over there and I did not see the card at first. Thank you. Julia, this this is the last, batch of names again. If you're in chambers, step to the podium if your name was already called.

3:20:02 – 3:21:200

If you're on Zoom, please raise your hand, we will move to you after. Julia Feinberg, Juan Albinell, Charlotte Vimish, sorry if I said that incorrectly, Chase Fowler, Christopher Kaplan, Emily Loper, 4205, High Knoll, last four four digits of the phone number 1429. Again, Oakland Rising, last four digits of the phone number 1822. Susan Seagal, Matthew Shepard, George Watson, Abigail Ilan, Rakim Naylor, Nick Carter, Ray, it might be Lewis from Urban Peace Movement, Andrew Gross, Cholito, Greg Slaughter, Carlos Tuna, Stanley Cooper, Dante Altamiro, Stephanie Tran, Ori Lowinger, Ramesh Sherrittaran, Andy Gee, Samantha Kanofsky, David Shore.

3:21:224

So that had to be the coolest entrance I've ever seen in City hall here coming up on the scooter.

3:21:2798

Well his legs are too short to walk from the bus so.

3:21:304

Please proceed.

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Alright. My name is Emily Coogan from District one. This is

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Athena. Hello.

3:21:40 – 3:22:1698

Alright. So we're here to speak against the flock. Plenty of people have already covered ICE complicity. I'm gonna talk about the polling data. I'm pretty sure they've been calling me and also my friends from mister Jenkins district across town. We aren't answering because we don't know what they're doing with that data. And so I understand that pollsters generally have statistical tools to address who is responding and not responding, but I'm skeptical that they adequately considered the fact that people who are against this were way less likely to respond to those calls. So a lot of your constituents are against this who were hanging up on that poll. So

3:22:1735

Yeah. What do

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you say, Athena?

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Athena's waited a long time even if he doesn't know what to say right now. So thank you very much. Thank you.

3:22:45 – 3:23:2234

My name is Rakeem Naylor, and I'm here on behalf of the Urban Peace Movement. Flock is making temporary fixes, not permanent solutions. Instead of installing cameras, install wealth into our youth, into the broken bumpy roads we walk on every single day. Install healthy foods into our children's schools. Instead of the public, you'd rather not clean up the public with your $2,500,000, you would not rather put preventatives, you rather put the probers of privacy.

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OPD, do you care for us, the people? OPD, do you care for more of the cameras? OPD, make more jobs, not gels. Get the flock out of Oakland. Get the flock out of Oakland. Us, the people, want flock out of Oakland. Change will never make change.

3:23:55 – 3:24:2099

Good afternoon. How was your lunch? My name is Chaney Turner, I represent District 7, also Oakland Rising. I'm really disappointed that we are here again today. How are we supposed to trust this body when you all continuously, well, majority, continuously to betray constituents?

3:24:21 – 3:24:5999

Ken Houston fell asleep last, at the last meeting, here eating lunch. Since October, majority of community has asked you all to reject it. FLOC was rejected by the privacy advisory commission, FLOC was rejected by public safety committee, FLOC was rejected by rules and legislation. But yet, again, we are still here. Who does the Oakland City Council serve? Berkeley, Piedmont, out of state investors, and keyboard MAGA racist? Why are majority of you still pushing this item? Are you afraid to be recalled by them?

3:25:03 – 3:25:180

Thank you, Chaney. Your time is up. Chaney, your time is up.

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Chaney. Chaney, your time is up. Hello.

3:25:36 – 3:25:51100

My name is David Shore. I'm a d one resident and I'm a member of the Bay Area Jews for Justice. We also had other members including Samantha Kanofsky who was here earlier. She can make it but I don't need her time. Essentially, we're here to oppose this flock contract.

3:25:51 – 3:26:24100

Our organization is made up of hundreds of Oakland Jews including a ton in District 1 Of Oakland and we'd love to follow-up with you, Councilman Unger about this. We are committed to standing alongside our immigrant neighbors and this community coalition who's been here today who came out with almost no notice for 01:00 on a Tuesday as all of them have talked about. We wanna give everything we can to support these communities who are under attack from ICE and other federal officials. They should not be under attack by our own city. They should not be under attack by our own city's police department.

3:26:25 – 3:26:37100

It is beyond disappointing to see our city doing anything to put these communities at risk and not doing everything we can to stand against them and against these federal officials, especially as we are a sanctuary city. I hope that you can give us a Hanukkah miracle by vote.

3:26:43 – 3:26:5714

Alright. Good afternoon, council members. My name is Stephanie Tran, president of the Oakland Chinatown Chamber of Commerce. I'm here speaking on behalf of over 300 business members in a wide range of industries. Public safety is urgent for our small businesses, residents, and visitors.

3:26:57 – 3:27:3714

Many of our businesses are minority and or immigrant owned, and safety directly impacts whether these businesses can stay open, whether employees can feel secure at work, and customers can feel confident coming back to shop and dine. The Oakland Chinatown Chamber of Commerce operates over 50 cameras throughout Chinatown. These community led systems have supported over a 100 cases of investigations from robberies to arson, car accidents, theft, break ins, and homicide. Cameras have been a tool of safety and is especially needed at a time when we are facing a staffing, police staffing shortage. Responsible use of camera system must also be guided by clear and responsible rules.

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So we urge counsel to support the adoption of the OPD camera use policy and implementation to safeguard around the use of technology.

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Thank you.

3:27:51 – 3:28:04101

Hi. I'm Dante Altamirano. I'm from District 3. Too many crimes in Oakland go unresolved because there's not enough evidence to hold offenders accountable. When cases cannot be proven, repeat offenders face no consequences and law abiding residents suffer.

3:28:04 – 3:28:39101

Flock cameras are a limited practical tool that establish facts and accountability without targeting innocent people. Council member Faith, I am speaking to you as a District 3 constituent and you're chilling over there, and on behalf of the majority of Oaklanders. 67% of residents support the, police, and more police presence. If if not for me, then do it for black and brown residents who are disproportionately victims of violent crime and often denied justice. Do it for the Asian small business owners who are repeatedly burglarized without accountability.

3:28:40 – 3:28:52101

Do it for the elderly neighbors who are afraid to leave their homes because of the risk of violence. These communities deserve safety, evidence, and justice. Flock hammers are a necessary step towards putting Oakland first. I believe in putting America first doing

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Thank you, sir. Your time is up.

3:29:004

Please stop order in the chamber. Order in the chamber. Please stop jeering.

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My name is Ramesh Shreedharan. By way of introduction, I hold a PhD in computer science from MIT. I teach data science at UC Berkeley, and I've worked in the technology, AI, and software industry for about ten years. So I teach my students about when x causes y. If any of my students tried to do what OPD did and show a graph like that with a trend line and say, this caused that, without thinking about the other causes like ceasefire, I would give them a failing grade instantly.

3:29:38 – 3:30:12102

This is not acceptable. I also want to oppose FLAC on the ethical grounds of collecting that much data. Anytime you have that much data in one place, there is always the temptation for actors to use it for other purposes. We heard about Texas where cops could search data about women who had abortions. We have seen reporting from the SF standard that OPD, in violation of state law, accessed data on behalf of federal agencies like ICE. This is not acceptable. We've also seen from security researchers that this kind of information can be hacked from FLAC cameras. In conclusion, please reject FLAC.

3:30:21 – 3:30:5395

Hi. My name is Susan Siegel. In an email exchange, I recently sent Zach referred Zach Unger to an excellent article that was in the November issue of Street Spirit, which debunked a lot of the claims FLAC makes about how it reduces crime and exposed many of the ways that it has been misused in the ways that a lot of people have talked about. So I would urge everybody to check out that article. It was great.

3:30:53 – 3:31:2395

The man who spoke on behalf of the police department presenting Flock earlier, while well meaning, I think was extremely naive when he talked about the highly unlikely possibility that the federal government would try to access any of this. Given our current federal government, this is extremely likely. I also just the other day got another notice about a breach.

3:31:34 – 3:31:52103

Hello. My name is Alex. Myself and several comrades who will speak after me have prepared a collective statement to share today. We are a group of residents from all over Oakland united in our understanding that flock technology poses grave dangers to our community. Let there be no doubt why we are standing here today.

3:31:52 – 3:32:36103

It's because some of you have already lined your pockets with big tech money and decided to sell us out to fascism and mass surveillance. Despite our very own privacy advisory commission's recommendation against flock proposal, despite it not passing through the public safety committee, and despite the huge and undeniable outpouring of community opposition rooted in well documented facts and evidence concerning the harms and failures of this technology, you are still considering partnering with a company that has aligned itself with fascists in no uncertain terms. We are going to walk you through these details once more for the record. We want you to know that Oakland is watching each and every one of your votes today, and we won't forget who you side with. The people of Oakland or big.

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My name is Claire Repnau. I'm in District 1. In a time when politicians across the country are being voted out for being soft on fascism, you too should be prepared to pay the political price. You have already heard from over a 100 members of the public including privacy experts, immigration advocates, teachers, lawyers, tech workers, parents, small business owners, students, and many others about the numerous dangers of FLAC. We don't need to go into every detail, but we do want to highlight the timeline of FLAC's expansion that shows just how rotten to the core Oakland's collaboration with FLAC is.

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In 2024, you quietly approved an agreement with CHP and flock without public input even though privacy advocates like e e e f f, a c l u, and your own privacy advisory commission members were already raising flags about potential issues of these. In May 2025, Johnson County Sheriff's Office in Texas searched the nationwide network of flock cameras to target and criminalize a woman who saw

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George District 2. In June 2025, Cal Matters reported that law enforcement agencies across Southern California violated state law more than a 100 times by sharing information from flock automated license plate readers with federal agents. It's important to note that OPD explicitly lied to the public safety committee about this fact when they spoke last month. In July, less than a year after the cameras were deployed, we found out that flock data from San Francisco and Oakland had been shared with federal law enforcement including ICE over 200 times violating state and city laws. Later that month, those concerns were brought to the privacy advisory commission both by the public and by commission members when OPD brought forward a proposal to expand the network.

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OPD and FLOC promised you that everything was okay lying through their teeth. In August, congress members Krishnamurti and Garcia, members of the House Oversight Committee launched a formal investigation into FLOC Group Inc over its role in enabling invasive surveillance practices that threaten the privacy, safety, and civil liberties of women, immigrants, and other vulnerable Americans. At the same time, it came to light that FLOC had launched a secretive pilot program giving border patrol access to 80,000 FLOC

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Luo, District 1. At the same time, it came to light that FLOC had launched a secretive pilot program giving border patrol access to 80,000 FLOC cameras nationwide, sometimes without the knowledge or consent of the the local police departments. In September, in response to public pressure led by Berkeley cop watch and immigrant rights advocates, the city manager pulled Berkeley's proposed flock expansion plan and has not reintroduced it since. In October, Oakland's privacy advisory commission rejected the OPD proposal by a vote of four to two explicitly saying that Flock could not be trusted to keep Oaklanders data safe. Also at this time, the Berkeley Public Safety Committee discovered that BPD had attempted to cover up the fact that quote, an external agency had searched ALPR data for the purposes of federal immigration enforcement.

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Later that month, California attorney general Rob Bonta sued the city of El Cajon over its sharing of license plate data with federal and out of state law enforcement agencies. In November, the Electronic Frontier Foundation published data showing that flock was used for hundreds of searches related to the fifty five zero one

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February, the hands off protest in April

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Hi. G Riz. In November, the Electronic Frontier Foundation published data showing the flock was used for hundreds of searches related to the fifty five zero one one protest in February, the hands off protest in April, the no kings protest in June and October, and other protests in between. Associated Press published a separate report that The US Border Patrol is monitoring millions of Americans' drivers national nationwide in a secretive program to identify and detain people whose travel patterns it deems suspicious. Through Flock alone, Border Patrol had access to at least 1,600 license plate readers across 22 states, and some counties have reported looking up license plates on behalf of CBP, including California.

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Accordingly, both police chiefs in Capitola and Santa Cruz reported that they had unintentionally shared camera data out of state. From June 2024 to October 2025, 32 law enforcement agencies performed

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Thank you. Your time is up.

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Laurie Lowinger, district one. Also in November, tech expert Ben Jordan published a forty minute expose showing just how easy it is for hackers to get the sensitive data stored on a flaw camera. Included in this video are photos pulled from the hardware showing the cameras which shouldn't trigger on anything but cars, have loaded images of people in the factories where they were assembled. This same month, lawmakers also called on the Federal Trade Commission, FTC, to investigate FLAC for allegedly not enforcing multi factor authentication MFA in violation of federal law. This demand comes as reporters have noted FLAC accounts for sale on a Russian cyber crime forum, multiple instances of flock related credentials for government users and info stealer infections, potentially providing hackers and other third parties with access to at least parts of flock's surveillance network.

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More locally

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Mark Dudley, District 3. More locally, the ACLU and Electronic Frontier Foundation are suing San Jose, claiming that the city's nearly 500 FLOC cameras create a pervasive database of resident movements in a surveillance network that is essentially impossible to avoid. Bay Area anti surveillance non profit Secure Justice is also suing Oakland, alleging that by illegally sharing tens of millions of sensitive location data points from millions of individuals each month since October August 2024, Oakland has exposed countless individuals to grave harm from the Trump administration's hate filled policies and invaded the privacy rights of individuals not suspected of any wrongdoing. In November, at the public safety meeting, we also heard over a 100 Oaklanders who asked the city council to reject flock. Seeing the same pattern we have just laid out for you, over 20 cities across the country have now canceled their contracts with FLAC in Oregon, Arizona, Texas, Illinois to Massachusetts.

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My name is Oh, district one. Raising alarm after alarm on the harms and dangers of flock. Many more, including Richmond just north of here, have paused the use of the cameras as they investigate potential abuses. For a moment, let's hear from the legislators and officials themselves from the cities that have canceled the contracts. From Councilmember Scott Bauer, Eureka, California, quote, it's hard to support this tool when there's so much concern from all of us, frankly, end quote.

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Flock contract terminated February 2025. From Illinois Secretary of State, Alexei Giannullius, quote, the reality is that we are dealing with powerful surveillance technology, and it has been abused, is extremely troubling, especially as it violates the law, end quote. Evanston, Illinois flock contract terminated August 2025. From city council member Derek Eater, Oak Park, Illinois, quote, according to our own civilian police oversight commission in Oak Park, over 99% of flock alerts do not result in any police action. While flock's marketing emphasizes success stories, the company has been unwilling or unable to provide meaningful independent

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Hi. I'm Anam from district three. And to end the previous statement, flock contract was terminated in August 2025 in Oak Park, Illinois from council member Melissa Dunn in Sedona, Arizona quote, at this point in our history the only way for us to make sure that data is not broadly shared or abused is to not have any so therefore I agree we need to cancel the contract, we need to remove the cameras. The FLAC contract was terminated in September 2025. From Eugene, Oregon Police Department, the department has identified vulnerabilities and limitations that raise concerns about the system's ability to meet the EPD's operational needs, data security requirements and community expectations.

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After further evaluation and internal discussion, the department has decided to discontinue the contract. FLAW contract terminated December 2025. And

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thank you.

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Navi district five. So now you two are presented with the opportunity to legally terminate Oakland's relationship with Flock. None of the cities above that we've listed have seen crime rates spike since ending their contracts. None of them have gone back because there's no evidence that FLAC has helped them in the first place. In the midst of this all, you still choose to bring this vote to a midday meeting with less than a week's notice.

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While numerous cities have taken a stand against flock, what have the council people here been doing? Backroom deals, covering their asses, and hiding from constituents. Last week on 12/11/2025 during the rules and legislation committee meeting committee meeting, council members made several Brown Act and local ordinance violations in an effort to sidestep the overwhelming community outpouring of concerns. At the meeting, Kevin Jenkins acknowledged the presence of council member Houston asking him whether he was participating in this meeting as doing so would violate public participation laws. When affirming Jenkins made a motion to adjourn and enter into a special meeting due to presence of Houston which still breaks the required forty eight hour notice for a special public meeting and agenda.

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Willow District 5. Houston along with the representatives from council member Wang and council member Unger's office proceeded to lobby peers to move the flock contract agenda item to full council. Houston stated that he quote needs that vote and thanked council member Jenkins for bringing this item to the agenda again despite the fact that council member Jenkins repeatedly reassured the public at the previous rules committee meeting that this would have to go back to public safety before it comes to council. This lack of transparency and clear disregard for public participation is consistent with Houston's previous revelatory blunder at the public safety committee meeting on November 18 when he stated during the deliberation that quote, it's going to be hashed out no matter what because if we've got three votes to one, it's not for it. It's going to go on non consent anyways.

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Today, have also brought to the table amendments to council rules to make it harder for working people to attend and a rewriting campaign finance rules so that you can get more money to line your pockets. Thank you.

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What we are witnessing in the city council with flock with the encampment

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state your name before you begin. Storm. Can you use restart our time, Theresa?

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What we are witnessing in the city council with flock, with the encampment abatement plan, with changes to city council rules is procedural gamemanship at best. But it feels more honestly like a complete disdain and disregard for the community and their rights to public participation protections enshrined in California and Oakland laws. In 2025, the Oakland government has lost the trust of the people. Corruption, bribery, one scandal after another, and a failure to meet the most basic needs of the people has disillusioned Oaklanders all over. In some of your districts, Ken Huston's in particular, less than 20% of registered voters turned out.

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In fact, he only got a total of 6,300 votes but somehow spent $60,000. How the fuck does that make sense except for the clear and obvious answer in front of us? You were bought and paid for, some slimy creep from San Leandro with tech money. This lack of public buy in to politics has emboldened some of you to push outrageous policies like flock, like the EAP, sometimes illegally, always without public consideration.

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Hi. I'm Nick. This lack of public buy in to politics has emboldened some of you to push outrageous policies like flock, like the EAP, sometimes illegally, always without public consideration. Opportunistically, many have capitalized on this with crime wave narratives used to increase policing, the same crime wave narrative that Trump is using to justify National Guard deployments. Well, we are here to tell you that we are not just naively hoping to change your minds or appeal to your authority.

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We want to hold up a mirror that you cannot ignore. Our goal has been to force you, on the record, in no uncertain terms, to state whether you are more interested in serving the interests of big tech and fascist dictators than the people of Oakland. One last time, so we are completely clear, FLAC is one of the major tools that a fascist federal government is using to create a mass dragnet surveillance network that can track the movements of individuals seamlessly and indiscriminately. The primary use of that network currently is to track and target immigrants for deportations. This is clearly and widely documented across the country.

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Hello, my name is Cholito from District one. The primary use of that network currently is to track and target immigrants for deportations. This has been clearly and widely documented across the country in this state and in this city. However, this surveillance network is also increasingly being used to criminalize all forms of dissent. We do not know the extent to which this fascist government plans to crack down.

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But when it does, it will do so using flock as its eyes and ears. By voting to keep these cameras up, you will be directly complicit in what happens next. We are here to remind you that there are still some lines you should still be afraid to cross. You may have had the luxury of a lack of scrutiny for a while, but people are starting to wake up. Politicians across the country are being voted out for being soft on fascism. You too should prepare to pay for, to pay a political price.

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Rheem, District 6. We will not forget the ways in which this body has consistently sidelined the public and muzzled our voices. We will not forget that you are making it a crime to be homeless. We will not forget that when ICE detained a family in East Oakland this summer, you did nothing. We will not forget that when ICE came to Oakland in October and three people were shot at Coast Guard Island, you did nothing.

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We will not forget that when ICE agents targeted a man dropping off his grandchild at school in November, you, with the exception of Fife, did nothing. The power of this city has always been with the people. The strength of this city has always been with the people, and those people are watching you now and will hold you accountable. There are some lines you should still be afraid to cross. Being the foot soldiers of fascism is one of them. Thank you.

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My name is Carlos Tuna and I live in District 5 and I'm an ACE member. The peaceful protest for peaceful protesters, mass surveillance, chills, free speech. License plate readers and camera networks have been used across the country to monitor unlawful demonstrations, identifying participants, and retaliate against people to exercise their constitutional right. This is not public safety, it's intimidation. As an Oaklander, I don't want my city to track, target, and endanger my neighbors. We are a sanctuary city and that protects civil rights, so we ask you to please reject this contract now.

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My name is Gregory Slaughter. I am the chief steward of ACE Oakland. I live in District 7. For immigrant for immigrant community systems like FLAC have been used to track people for deportation even in a sanctuary city like Oakland should not have to be feared that driving to work, school, church could feed data into a nationwide system, excessive excessive to ICE. To mister Ken Houston, can I get your attention, please? Okay. I'm in your district. Right? I have a situation going. I sent you an email, and I really want you to read it.

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We need to get with you before the end of this month about one of your buildings. You have been there twice. Okay? You get a chance, you can come over there, and I'll tell you in private what what street it's on. But you really need to get there. Yesterday, I left a lady that was in tears because her grandkids cannot come visit her at this bill.

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Shepherd, District 1, no on flock. I'd like to thank the council for getting me to speak at my first meeting, council meeting, because of this b s. I'm new to this. How often does it take something to get voted no on before it goes away? Many statistics have been shared today where we look at charts easily explainable by COVID effects. If we look at the FBI crime data during the years of '17 to '24, it has the same shape, low, peak, and then decline. Are we saying surveillance systems are the to thank for US wide decrease since '24? Here's a hint, no they're not. Statistics are funny. They can be used in ways to support reject claims, they can be biased.

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So without statistics, what are we left with? Decisions being made from a place of fear at the cost of our rights. It's a bad investment. It's taking money that should be put into prevention, which has a far higher return per dollar. That's from the Brookings Institute. What do they know, right? Let's be radical. Let's get to the root.

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Vivian from District 2 and I'm here to speak out on behalf of myself and 10 employees of the city of Oakland that could not be here today in opposition to FLAC cameras. FLAC has lost contracts with cities included including Austin, Texas Denver, Colorado Oak Park, Illinois and Sedona, Arizona because of its unscrupulousness and incompetence. These cameras can be hacked in thirty seconds and there's been no conclusive study without cherry picked data that shows that they do in fact reduce or prevent crime. Flock audit logs obtained through a Colorado Open Records Act showed that Denver's flock data was searched on behalf of ICE over 1,400 times in the year beginning 06/02/2024. Let's see.

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Police are abusing the access that flock provides. There have been reports of police using these cameras to stalk girlfriends and improperly sharing data with federal agencies and providing bogus reasons for searching databases.

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Thank you Vivian, your time is up.

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Andrew Gross, District one. This speaking against. This is a deeply unserious solution nonsolution to an actual problem, and I think it's pretty clear that you are unmoved by the bulk of public outrage over it. So I see us as being here today to plant firmly in the record that when this increases the when this harms the public safety of Oaklanders, that we have a better chance at holding you accountable in the next election. And lastly, I just wanna point out that $2,300,000 is the annual budget for Oakland's administration of economic development and workforce development.

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How is it that we have $2,250,000 to spend on an ineffective solution to make us all less safe, but we don't have the money for things that actually make us more safe? This is deeply unserious, and we expect a lot more from you.

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My name is Ray, and I'm a representative of the Urban Peace Movement. I'm another person that is here to I'm another person that is here opposing Flock. You guys have heard so many things tonight, there's barely anything that I can say. However, a vast majority of us in this room and at home can agree that a system in place that is being used for more than its intended function should not be here. I am a native of Oakland, California.

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We are currently in Oakland, California. This is home to the Black Panther Party that has shown that when you believe in a community, the community does great things. Now and forever, the people will always have the power. Please do not forget that. Thank you.

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Good afternoon. My name is Sochil, district five, currently still working district five. Oakland raised me, from Deep East Oakland to the Fruitvale. And I must say that I've seen a lot of investments that were shortsighted that had to be pulled in the past. And I don't want today in a time where budget constraints are an issue for us to make an investment that makes really poor decisions.

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As we organize with youth with frontline catalyst, we talk about systems of community care. I wish you were all there at our youth summit where the youth are understanding the concepts of street lighting is important for safety. Understanding that investment in community development is for safety. Understanding that community policing in a way that is really restructured, in a way that really is rooted in community from community voice is a way for safety. It's not flock. It's not the shortsightedness that somehow or another has grasped you. We are amongst times and policies.

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Thank you, Sochi. Your time is up.

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Hello, my name is Keppra Lions Clark from District 12. I'm really upset to be here again and I'm really confused on how this ended up on the agenda yet again after you've heard from multiple constituents, hundreds of people how they feel exactly about this issue. Flock cameras do not keep us safe, cameras do not keep us safe and I refuse to believe as educated and smart and qualified as you all are that you have not heard all of your constituents tell you and done your own research to realize that this is not a good idea for Oakland. If you really care about your constituents, if you really care about the people who make Oakland what it is, you know what the correct choice is and I just ask that all of you really look internally and understand why you make the choices that you make when you vote on this. What are you hoping to gain in this time where our neighbors are getting picked up off the street, they're being stolen, families are being torn apart, people are dying, there's an attack on our people, you feel this, you know this so ask yourself what is more important to you right now?

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Is it money or is it your people, is it your dignity, is it your soul? Thank you guys so much, I hope you make the correct choice.

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Thank you for your comments. Moving to the suit speakers in the Zoom queue. Thank you for your applause. If we can give the speakers in the Zoom queue the same respect so they can get through their comments as well. Moving to the Zoom queue starting with Asada Olabala. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

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Thank you, madam clerk. It's interesting how we get this, overwhelming participation. And when we have the NSA for twenty two years, little of the public shows up to deal with the police excessive force and racial profiling of African Americans. I'm also concerned with this position on sanctuary city where you have collected no evidence related to immigrant status in your city, and so there's no way to identify anything related to immigrants. You have, in this city, immigrants who are criminals.

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You have illegal immigrants who are part of the cartel, the MS thirteen, the Mexican mafia, the, mafia of the prison system, and we don't have any ability to deal with it. I support the fraud cameras, but I'm so disappointed that the African Americans who have spoken don't impact how African Americans are impacted with these.

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Thank you. Moving to the next speaker. Nita, please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

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Hello. I am a resident of Oakland tax paying home owning resident living on Ohlone land that was once genocided by colonizers. I spoke to my council member about this situation, and they asked asked me where were you in the collective sense two years ago when this was first coming up for vote. Well, council members, that was a great question. Where I was along with all those people in that room and along with all Oakland residents in their homes, whether they know this meeting is happening or not, where we were were trusting that you would make decisions that would protect us from mass surveillance from this fascist government.

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It might not be happening now, but it will come in the future. And you are meant to protect us and not sell us to the highest bidder.

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Thank you for your comments. Emily Loper, you are next.

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Hi. Good afternoon. I'm Emily, a D 4 resident calling in strong support of approving this flock contract. As you know, Oakland residents have been very concerned about their basic safety over the past few years. Many families in my neighborhood have considered leaving the city or have left because of that. This technology is a proven tool in helping the city to fight crime, both solving crimes and deterring them in the first place. The presentation clearly showed that this technology directly improves public safety while handling the data responsibly. As you've heard, polling clearly shows that two thirds of residents favor using these cameras to improve safety in our city. So I urge you to please represent the vast majority of residents who support this and improve this contract. Thanks very much.

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Thank you for your comments, Brian Culberson. You are next. After Brian is Emily Wheeler.

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Hi. My name is Brian Culbertson from d three. Flock is a notoriously insecure camera company with multiple data breaches just this year. They can be hacked with a simple button push. If we're going to have cameras, then Oakland should do a competitive contract for a secure vendor that isn't being sued by the ACLU.

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Like PlateVendor, there's many out there. Illinois secretary of state recently announced that FLAC gave access to customs and border patrol, triggering a wave of cities to cancel their FLAC contracts and choose different vendors. Oakland should cancel their FLAC contracts just like the cities of San Marcos and Richmond, California, Cambridge, Massachusetts, Evereston, Springfield, and Oak Park, Illinois, Eugene, Oregon, Austin, and Hayes County, Texas, Mountain Lake Terrace, Lynnwood, Stanwood, Redmond, and Olympia, Washington. The list goes on. They're being canceled all across the country right now due to this. Cancel them here too.

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Emily Wheeler, you are next. After Emily is Ralph Brown. Emily, please unmute yourself and begin your comments. Emily, we will come back to you. Ralph Brown, you are next. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments. Give me Emily back. Ralph Brown. Ralph, we will come back to you. Laura Hill, you are next.

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Good evening. My name is Laura Hill, and I'm a vice president of public policy with the Bay Area Council. We represent over 370 of the region's employers, including a coalition of 125 employers based in Oakland who are committed to building a safer and more vibrant city. We strongly support this item and urge your approval today. Technology is a vital public safety tool, and it is particularly critical for cities that are facing significant law enforcement staffing challenges.

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Additionally, according to two recent voter polls, the vast majority of Oakland residents do, in fact, overwhelmingly support security camera networks. The polling shows support across age, race, ethnicity, and ideology for visible cameras and ALPRs as tools to deter crime and make people feel safe. ALPR technology has been proven to work and improve public safety in Oakland, and the city needs continued access to this technology to protect residents, businesses, and visitors. Approving this contract will help the city deter crime and ultimately strengthen community safety and economic vitality. Thank you so much.

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Going back to Emily. Emily Wheeler, please unmute yourself and begin your comments. Kenyon Bliss, you are next. Please unmute yourself.

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Yeah. My name is Kim Bliss. And apart from the suspicious timing around, OPD raising its staffing, level crisis and using flock to supplement that, this is actually a false choice. Technology or staffing has never been interchangeable. In reality, staffing act like, ALPR cameras generate leads but require officers to investigate them, And OPD's reduced staffing means fewer investigators available to follow-up on ALPR hits, which pre peer reviewed research suggests the effectiveness of this of this technology depends on having dedicated investigative units.

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Creating that investigation capacity requires staffing, not cameras. Even if ALPR increases leave, a department with 509 operational officers, only 10 of whom being investigators based on the public safety committee meeting, cannot process exponentially more cases. So these arguments for FLAC actually highlights the need to actually invest in people, not surveillance technology. And rather than trying to displace human investment with technology, this council would actually be better off asking for

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Thank you for your comments. Charlotte Bismich, you are next. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

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Hello. My name is Charlotte. I'm a D Two resident. I'm very tired of hearing about this proposal. I feel like I'm losing my mind watching this council nod along to nonsensical presentations from OPD. Here's a few quick questions. What is a flock related arrest? How many of them led to any sort of conviction? How many of those convictions relied on flock data and couldn't have been reached any other way? If it's such a great tool, why doesn't OPD have those numbers?

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Are you really going to settle for a correlation? Allow me to add my voice to the chorus of educators telling you that's not how evidence works. I feel like I'm losing it when the council talks about flock without mentioning the larger context of fascist aligned tech CEOs like Peter Thiel and Garrett Langley, making pretty damn clear they wanna build a techno feudalist future where challenging corporate power is impossible. Thank you council member Fife for raising the very important point that big ten tech is currently a writhing nest of Nazis obsessed with something called white genocide. Where is the scrutiny? Where is the due diligence? How are we supposed to believe anything you say when you side with

4:08:120

Kate Steele, you are next. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

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Hi, council members. I'm Kate Steele, a D 3 resident, and I urge the council to accept this proposal and do what San Francisco and other neighborhood cities have done, reduce crime by employing cameras and APLR technology. San Francisco has dramatically reduced both violent and property crime crime rates. As just reported in the San Francisco Chronicle, as the SFPD has said, word has spread among criminals deterring new ones from trying their luck. Criminals know that if they come to San Francisco, we will hold them accountable.

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Oakland must remain in the ranks of neighboring cities in deterring crime. This city can and should address the privacy concerns raised with strict contract terms and rigorous oversight audits. And I was at the No Kings protest, and I'm not afraid of APLR technology, I will continue to go to those protests. Thank you very much.

4:09:190

Juan Albinel, you are next. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

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Hi. I'm Juan Albinel. I'm an engineer with over a decade of security and safety experience, and I'm here for the third time to reject the expansion of FLoC cameras. FLoC has demonstrated an abysmal track record of rushing outdated, insecure systems to profit themselves and their billionaire stakeholders. Even if I believe for a second that FLoC is suddenly going to stop lying, experts have already demonstrated that their privacy systems are horrible and have already had multiple instances of data breaches of not just license plates but extensive personal data. They simply cannot and will not keep any of the promises being made by OPD. This is not misinformation. Unlike the weak data and broken correlation OPD shared today, we are backed by real studies and experts. Our own privacy advisory commission voted against Locke. The ACLU is against Locke.

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Many cities have already canceled their contracts because of this. Secure Justice has sued Oakland to shut down the current Locke cameras. And who's supporting this? Corrupt council members, fascists, people who said that, hey. They want the national guard in our cities. The right side has never been clearer to me. So, again, I urge city council to vote no on flock. Thank you.

4:10:250

Rajni Mandel, you are next. After Rajni is Brenda Grisham.

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Hi, Rajne Mandel. I'm speaking today representing Oakland residents, voters, homeowners, and tenants, many of whom are present in chambers and who could not be there because of work, caregiving responsibilities, or safety concerns. I'm not able to be there in person tonight because I needed to pick up my kids from school, so I'll keep this brief out of respect of your time. We are Oaklanders who care deeply about public safety and recognize the seriousness of our moment our city is in. With staffing and patrol capacity under real strain, tools that operate under clear policy and oversight matter.

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Our position is based on the materials in the agenda packet, the data, the use policy, and the reviews conducted by OPD, the city administrator, and the city attorney. How council chooses to refine or amend this item is within your discretion. We support moving this item forward and urge you to take action tonight to authorize the program as a measured step towards improving public safety in Oakland. Thank you.

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Hi. This is Brenda Karisham, a resident of District 5 and a business owner in District 2. We are here again today because this is the organization that's actually listened to both sides except for Carol Fife. We know that there's not gonna be a perfect system. So what we wanna do is use what we have. You're not gonna be happy with any other system. It's gonna be a problem with everything. The point is we wanna be safe. We wanna use what we have. And for those of you that don't trust OPD and saying what OPD can and cut cannot do, they're hiring. Why don't you guys apply? Thank you.

4:12:12 – 4:12:320

Jennifer Tu, you are next. After Jennifer will be Sierra Warwick. Jennifer, We will come back to you. Sierra, please unmute yourself and begin your comments. Hi.

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I have time to hear to me from Linda Warren.

4:12:350

Don't ask that.

4:12:3968

Hello? I'm

4:12:410

sorry. Say that again.

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I have time ceded to me from Linda Warwick on Zoom.

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Linda, can you confirm that you're giving your time to Sierra? Yes. I am. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Ahead, Sierra.

4:13:03 – 4:13:14131

Thank you. I'm Sierra. I'm from District 4. I was born and raised in Oakland. I also wanna speak specifically to council member Ramachandran, who I actually canvassed for when she was seeking election.

4:13:14 – 4:13:59131

Council member, I am deeply disappointed in your ambivalence and your failure to support accountability of the council. We, as the people of Oakland, said no to this, flock expansion many, many times, and the fact that you are continuing to support it is just extremely disappointing to me. And I will remember this when we are called on to be reelecting or electing somebody different who will actually hear our voices. I also want to say that the folks who are continually pushing for flock naively are trying to divide our community into these evil criminals versus innocent victims. And at this time, especially in this, like, fascist federal government that we are in, I want to remind everyone, especially as a Jewish resident of District 4, that we are not it's not about criminals versus innocent victims.

4:14:00 – 4:14:45131

Everyone can be a criminal depending on the policies in place. We are talking about immigration, also protests, abortion rights, like somebody said, community organizing, also trans health care, which nothing nobody's mentioned yet. We cannot have this mass surveillance in place and continuing to beef it up and give these tools to something that can be so easily manipulated. I also want to say that crime happens because of poverty. What world do we want? Do we want one where we disinvest from social programs? Because crime will go up if that is the case. Crime will go up as we disinvest from programs that support the people. And as that goes on, people will continue to say that we need more surveillance, more and more surveillance. Crime will go up regardless because we have nothing.

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People have nothing. So I urge you to vote no on this block expansion. Thank you.

4:14:570

Kelsey Hubbard, you are next. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

4:15:03 – 4:15:37132

Hi. My name is Kelsey. The report presented today did not demonstrate the efficacy of FLOC whatsoever, and presenting an obscured half truth data lacking report is very Trumpy, and so is nodding your head in blind allegiance to the billionaires. My mom always told me that when someone shows you who you are, believe them. We know who Trump, Peter Thiel, and Flock are. There are so many other vendor options to choose from. Why would Oakland choose this one? The only reason to choose this particular vendor is to sell out to Trump in big tech. Wong, a former Biden Harris official. Are you going to sell out to Trump?

4:15:37 – 4:16:04132

Brown, a former educator who won a changemaker of the year award. Is this a change your students would be proud of? Unger, a former firefighter who spent a career saving lives. Will you put our immigrant community in extreme danger? Ramashandran, a daughter of immigrants, will you hand over our neighbors to ICE? Look at the people who have been supporting flock and those who are against it. Whichever you choose is who Oakland will be. We are about to find out who you are. Please don't sell out. Vote.

4:16:08 – 4:16:220

Thank you for your comments. Carmen, you are next. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments. Carmen, We will come back to you.

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Please unmute yourself and begin your comment.

4:16:34 – 4:17:05133

Hi. I'm Sonal, a resident of D One, and I'm here to ask you once again to reject the proposed block contract. Community opposition to this contract is strong and unmistakable as y'all have witnessed the last three times this was brought up. And hundreds of us have continued to show up and speak before city council, urging you not to move forward. And ignoring that level of public concern sends the wrong message, especially when those concerns center on privacy and accountability.

4:17:06 – 4:17:21133

Flock and OPD assure us that safeguards are in place, but assurances are not guarantees. I will cede my time because everyone before me has already said, many things that make the point. Thank you.

4:17:240

Chadwick Spell, you are next. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments. Chadwick Spell?

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Yes. Go ahead.

4:17:35 – 4:18:08134

My name is Chadwick Spell, the chair of the board for Oakland African American Chamber of Commerce, Oakland resident, homeowner. We support the use of flock and expansion, but we also understand there is no easy answer. There is no easy fix. We need public safety to have businesses, to have tax revenue, to have employees, to have people working, to have jobs. But at the same time, city council, you have a large job ahead of you.

4:18:08 – 4:18:35134

We need to bring everyone together regardless of what happens. We need to make sure we hold everyone accountable, the police department, ourselves that vote for this, the council, to where all the promises and accountability and reviews are not only what's posted, but even more to where we get what we want and accomplish what we need to and nothing more. Good luck.

4:18:360

Thank you for your comments. Marcus Johnson, you are next after Marcus is Jennifer Finley. Mister Johnson, please begin your comments.

4:18:44 – 4:19:0938

Thank you. I'm a, my name is Marcus Johnson. I'm a D Three resident as well as a West Oakland native, and I support FLOC. And I trust OPD based on the policies that they have put in place. We have to be consistent with the neighboring cities and their use of flock.

4:19:11 – 4:19:3838

What's what's interesting is the fear mongering and the meanness of some of the opposition. But I also wanna remind you that I am more concerned with personal devices, appliances, and the toll tag that actually takes pictures of everybody that's in your vehicle as well as your license plate. Thank you for your, allowing me to speak.

4:19:450

Jennifer, please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

4:19:51 – 4:20:2235

Absolutely not on flock. I was looking for some information this morning and found a video from a man named Ben Jordan called we hacked flock safety cameras in under thirty seconds. It's a very detailed forty five minute report with more tech than I understand. And he said that he had informally consulted about these things with Oakland City Council. So I would love through the chair to hear more about those meetings and who was in them and what you learned.

4:20:23 – 4:20:5435

Some of his findings include that these cameras run on a version of Android that has not been updated, that is no longer serviced, that's not been updated, has no security patches since 2021, has 900 plus known security risks. He also talks about flock accounts being for sale. They are selling accounts. They are selling this access. There is far more tech that I could understand. What better demonstration of the imperial boomerang than a former APAC employee selling their surveillance

4:20:560

Josephine Guzman, you are next. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

4:21:0232

Hello. Josephine Guzman, public policy manager for the Oakland Metro Chamber. Oh, am I still there?

4:21:14 – 4:21:5632

Okay. Great. The chamber's here to, express strong support for the policy framework for the OPD surveillance use policy. The chamber has long supported community led camera networks across Oakland's business improvement districts, partnering with downtown, Chinatown, and others to support local businesses and establishing clear standards, but our support is grounded in the importance of pry strong privacy protections. These safeguards are essential to maintaining the public trust and ensuring technology is used appropriately. We just wanna continue to have that right balance between improving public safety and protecting privacy and community trust, and we look forward to your continued collaboration on centering these community needs.

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Thank you for your comments. Kevin Dally, you are next. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

4:22:09 – 4:22:3029

Hi. This is Kevin Dally from district four. FLOC has been untrustworthy on privacy for a long time now. The privacy commission is against FLOC. Thanks to council member five for being strong and standing against FLOC. Let's look elsewhere for our cameras. We can do it. Thank you.

4:22:32 – 4:23:000

Thank you for your comments. Going back through. Emily Wheeler, please unmute yourself and begin your comments. Leanne Alameda did you submit a card if so under what name?

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I did under my name.

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I don't have a card for Leanne Alameda at this time. Ralph m Brown trying again. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

4:23:17 – 4:23:5936

Yeah. Just to call in the opposed flock, for, namely the fact that the contract language doesn't actually protect against, or prohibit flock ice access. It only, appears to like, you know, or encourages to limit it. But, just wanna call out I know that majority of council members really aren't listening right now, because majority of you have been bribed, not only by the Oakland Police Officers Association, but also astroturf organizations like Empower Oakland and the Abundance Network as well as all of these chamber of comments commerce representatives. But wanna give a big shout out to Ken Houston.

4:24:00 – 4:24:1836

Do you think we don't didn't notice you flipping off the audience, from your seat just now? Do you think that we don't know that you've been violating the Brown Act from the public safety committee to this very committee where you gave up the game and then forced Brown to actually cover her ass and vote against it? You think we don't

4:24:23 – 4:24:390

Carmen, trying again. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments. Carmen? Let let me just run through the Zoom users quickly first.

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Wait. She's going to the Zoom users.

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Emily Wheeler. Rob, did you submit a card? If so, under what name?

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No. I did not have time to submit a card.

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Jack London Improvement. What name did you submit your card under?

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Self Sylvain Hauser, Jack London Improvement District.

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Did you submit a card under a name? I don't have a card under that.

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No. I'm just participating through Zoom. And

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You do have to submit a card to participate in the meeting. Manny Pocole. Did you submit a card, if so, under what name?

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I believe I submitted a card under Amanda Popal.

4:25:42 – 4:26:050

Do not have a card under that name. Emily Wheeler, last chance. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments. I have two Hi. Elise.

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Hello? Yes. Hello. My name is Emily Wheeler. I'm a resident of District 2.

4:26:12 – 4:26:5374

I am here to oppose the block contract. I'm sure you have heard many, many good reasons to oppose the contract from the fact that despite what OPD is claiming, Block has a demonstrated history of collaborating with ICE and releasing information to the government from the known security issues from the fact that although you cannot prove a negative, there is ample evidence to show that their block does not reduce crime. Many cities that have implemented block contracts have then chosen to cut ties with this company. If you wanna have some weird surveillance network, you can contract with a different company. That isn't quite so insane.

4:26:53 – 4:27:0974

It's very easy. But the thing I wanted to end my comment with is that I know a lot of you city council members, you ran on this progressive platform, but then you immediately pivoted to prioritizing your big money donors living in the hills or not in Oakland. That works for

4:27:100

Thank you, miss Wheeler, for your comments. Carmen, please approach the podium.

4:28:17 – 4:28:51135

Hello, my name is Carmen Salazar. At one point I was in favor of this measure because I have been a victim. But in the time that we are right now, this would just create so much more prejudices for people who are innocent. It would just enable the surveillance of those persons. We are not in the time that this is, that we should be doing this in. And if this is an investment for you, then you can do it in another way and not at this time where it will just create more problems for innocent families. Thank you.

4:28:59 – 4:29:224

So thank you to everyone who came out and speak spoke. A 142 people 145 people interested in this topic and we're grateful for every single one of the people that came. With that, I will open it up to council members for comments not all at once. Council member comments? Council member Houston.

4:29:22 – 4:29:5012

Thank you chair. We have constantly been trying to get, they're trying to get fooled by this 18% of individuals and the vast majority of Oakland wants this. And I say about 82% you heard the lady say what two thirds of it. With that being said, I know we have eight minutes each as council members to speak. Correct?

4:29:53 – 4:30:164

That's Rule 11 states that each council member gets eight minutes on non consent items. So what I like to do is I did a video across all the districts about the individuals that aren't here that could is queued up right now by K Top and I have eight minutes to speak. So please proceed.

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And I like to know which council members can donate five minutes to me or eight minutes to me so I can play this video. So as k top should have that queued up for me because I want the public to see that this false narrative that Oakland doesn't want this is false. Right? And I have this so who council member would like to donate?

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So why don't you start your video and then I will Can

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you start my video please? K top.

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You ever been caught for bipping?

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Yes sir. Well, necessary caught. I haven't been caught. I've been laid or tracked down due to, like, you know, camera footage or what

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The flock camera system. Yes, sir.

4:30:58 – 4:31:1314

Both the police credited a network of cameras in helping them arrest a suspect within twenty four hours of the Laney College shooting. And now there's a push to expand the city's flock camera system as a tool to help track down suspects and solve crimes.

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The Oakland branch of the NAACP supported the proposed expansion.

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Until Oakland can fund a fully staffed police department, the city council must seriously consider the use of cameras to ensure public safety.

4:32:04137

Cheryl Dugan. I am in District 6, and I am in support of the flock cameras.

4:32:21 – 4:32:40130

Hi. My name is Sass Stewart, and I am a resident and business owner of District 3. I support the flop cameras. Please, please approve the cameras. Thank you, city council, for keeping me and our community safe.

4:32:4225

Yeah. My name is Wing Chen. I'm a president in Chinatown Of Oblin. I support fourth camera installed in Oblin.

4:33:2043

Hi. I'm Willie Lincoln. I'm a voter in District 6, and I'm all for more flock cameras. City council, please rule in our favor. Thank you.

4:33:3031

Hi. My name is Tracy Akwes, and I

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live in District 3. I would like

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to please urge city council to approve the flock cameras. I thank you in advance for taking consideration to this matter.

4:33:50 – 4:34:07138

I am a business owner in Little Saigon in Oakland. My business got developed too many times. We need more safety. I need more fluff cameras for our safety, for our communities. Please help us. Support us. Thank you.

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Flock cameras.

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And we have more flock cameras, and we were going to Oakland. Thank you for keeping us safe, city council. Thank you for keeping us safe, city council. Hello. My name is Angel Lowe, and I'm a resident of Oakland, California. I support the FLAC cameras. City council, please approve the cameras and keep our streets safe in Oakland, California.

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Flock security cameras are absolutely needed in Oakland. We have to protect the citizens. We have to protect the small business owners. They need to have flock security cameras.

4:34:58 – 4:35:1133

My name is Kris Quan. I live in District 6. District 6. I was born in Oakland, and I've lived in Oakland for most of my life. We support more flock cameras. Thank you city council for keeping our community safe.

4:35:133

My name is Cody Yan, and my family owns a small business, and we would like to support the flock cameras in the city of Oakland to protect its residents and its businesses. Thank you.

4:35:22 – 4:35:3633

Hello. My name is Penelope Davis, and I'm an Oakland resident in District 1. I encourage the city council members to add more flock cameras to Oakland. And city council members, thank you for your work. Thank you.

4:35:46 – 4:35:5833

Hi. My name is Uvalda Acosta, and I live in District 3, and I support the cameras. So we asked to city council to approve the cameras, please.

4:36:23 – 4:36:3840

My name is Kim, and I'm a resident of District 5. When my car window was smashed with myself and my two year old in it, there was nothing that the police could do even though there were videos of it. Please use blocks and more technology to make Oakland safer.

4:36:38 – 4:36:502

In Oakland, and my cars have been broken into. My homes have been broken into. My tenants' homes have been broken into. And if flock cameras can do something to alleviate this mess, I'm all for them.

4:36:5046

Hello. My name is Tak Ho. I work District 5. We want more flock cameras. Thank you city council for putting us in safe. Thank you.

4:37:20 – 4:37:57140

We've had, three break ins, into our house. I got in a fight with someone in the backyard. I had a break in in my shop. I live in Oakland, and, we've talked to a bunch of police officers. It really feels like the flock cameras are a great step in the right direction. And we would urge me and my family would urge you, to please approve more usage of flock cameras so that we can find people who the police are aware of and make a dent in some of the safety issues that are really plaguing all of the the residents of Oakland. Thank you so much, and thanks for considering this.

4:37:5780

My name is Tiffany. I live in the Fruitvale District, and I support the use of cameras, security cameras.

4:38:03 – 4:38:2019

My name is Alex. I witness I live in Oakland. I witnessed three people shot, murdered in front of me, and I I feel that we need help. We need to accept the CHP camera for our safety and the community's

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safety. My

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name is Morgan Solem from district one, and I believe that flock security cameras are a critical tool to help our understaffed, overburdened police department do their jobs effectively. Please increase the flock security cameras in Oakland to help keep everybody safe.

4:38:57 – 4:39:080

Hello. My name is Nayeli Alvaran. I am a registered boarder, and I live in District 6. I support to have more floor cameras here in Oakland. Thank you city council for keeping us safe.

4:39:09100

Hi. My name is Moises, owner and operator of East Bay Mufflers local business, and I support the flock camera for District 5.

4:39:174

Okay. Todd, can you pause the video please?

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Live in district

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So council member, you have exceeded your time.

4:39:24 – 4:39:3612

So what I'd like to know is what other so I wanted to finish because if they can come out deep, we can come out deep too. And I wanted to find out Excuse me. Let me finish what I'm saying. Shut up.

4:39:364

Excuse me. Council member Houston, order in the chamber please.

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I wanna find out if any other council member will see me or donate some time so I can finish up this video. That's what I'm asking.

4:39:45 – 4:40:004

Council member, how much time is remaining on the video? Excuse me. Order in the chambers. We'll start giving people warnings. Probably nine more minutes. You have nine more minutes? Yes, I do. How how many hey. Excuse me.

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What I'm saying is this, is this president Councilman Robby

4:40:06 – 4:40:214

Out of order. That's your first warning. Council member, I will give you four minutes of my time. Okay. One second. Does anyone else does anyone else wanna cede time to council member Houston?

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Okay. You have four minutes remaining.

4:40:31113

Counsel, we really appreciate the efforts that that you make to keep us safe. And for that reason, we're in support of Love Cameras. Thank you.

4:40:403

I am Marco Maldonado. I own a property at San Antonio District here in Oakland, and I support the safety cameras.

4:40:474

K. Tyler. Hi.

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I'm Angelo.

4:40:484

Can you pause the video?

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District 6

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Council member Houston, do you want to speed up the time on the videos? No. Okay. Alright. So there's three minutes and forty five seconds remaining.

4:41:0199

President, and I wanna tell you, thank you so much city council. We need more flock cameras.

4:41:07 – 4:41:2125

Hi. My name is Javier Trujillo. I'm musician, a working musician, and I support the FLOG cameras because actually here in Oculu two, they broke my windows. They stole my gear, and nothing happened. And, also, we need it. We need the cameras for sure.

4:41:214

My name is Oscar Martinez. I'm a business owner in District 5, and I support vlog cameras.

4:41:26 – 4:41:4651

Hi. My name is Maria Sanchez. I live in the District 5, and I ask the council members to please keep the cam the floor cameras. We really need the residents and merchants because it's a lot of violence in the Fruitvale District. I love Oakland, and I love your support. Please. Thank you.

4:41:46 – 4:42:0221

We need more Flock safety cameras. The city of Oakland has a manpower problem and any kind of technology that can leverage the manpower, the limited manpower we have to help protect and serve the citizens of Oakland, we need more of that. So I support it 100%.

4:42:04 – 4:42:33130

Hello. My name is Sylvia Fortinberry, and I am a lifelong resident of Oakland currently living in District 6. I am a strong supporter of adding additional flock cameras as I believe they will help to keep our neighborhood safer and more secure. I would also like to thank the city council members for their hard work, their dedication, and their commitment to protecting Oakland. Thank you.

4:43:01 – 4:43:17140

Hello. I am Alex Cox with oaklove.org. We're seventeen years in District 5 representing the Fruitvale community. Wanted to say that we want flock cameras, and thank you city council for keeping our safety front of mind.

4:43:18 – 4:43:3133

Hello, city council. This is Glenda Arevalo here sending you a message. We live in District 3, and I am for the cameras, security cameras, to be installed in Oakland. Thank you.

4:43:324

Perfect.

4:43:3361

Hi. This is Bob. I live in District 6 Of Oakland, California, and I very much support keeping the flock cameras in place. We have, one at 55th And International, and I know

4:43:434

that One minute less.

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Troubled people pass by there and, need to be looked at later. So thank you, Kevin Jenkins, for your support of safety in our neighborhood.

4:44:07 – 4:44:26138

Hi. I'm Oakland resident. I'm in front of my house. I've been here since 2000. Ever since then, Oakland had gotten very dangerous and unsafe. So I would like to see the council to vote on flux of camera safety camera for Oakland, please. Thank you.

4:44:2633

I am a District 1 resident in favor of flux cameras. City council, please, please add more. Thank you.

4:44:3345

Hi. I support Flock safety cameras because I'm

4:44:3673

a small business owner in Oakland, and I believe it really helps small businesses.

4:44:4655

I'm Rachel.

4:44:4912

To the chair, thank you president for giving me that. So let me share this. 83% of Oakland wants

4:44:55 – 4:45:124

Order to be in the chamber. Order in the chamber. What it is. You're out of Bordeaux. Council member Houston, you got thirty more seconds. Please proceed. What I was saying was, thank you president once again, is that the truth is the truth.

4:45:13 – 4:45:2512

You have two thirds, you heard it. I have 239 more individuals that have said this and the city of Oakland wants the safety. They want fly cameras and that's it. Let's take a vote on it.

4:45:254

Thank you council member Houston. Council member Fife.

4:45:301

I need a minute.

4:45:314

Okay. All good. Any other council? Council member Gallo.

4:45:36 – 4:45:482

Yes. Yes. There's some amendments that were introduced to the council, and I'd like to hear from council member Wang to present her her recommendations as I am ready to support it.

4:45:484

Council member Wang. Alright. You have some amendments.

4:45:51 – 4:46:22142

Yes. Thank you. First of all, I just wanna say that much has been said about the fear that these cameras would be used as a tool for ICE to deport our immigrant communities. And I wanna be very clear as someone from an immigrant family who has spent my career fighting for immigrants that a vote for this system is not a vote to support ICE, especially if we amend the proposal before us with additional safeguards. Furthermore, I am voting for this proposal because the immigrant communities I represent want these cameras.

4:46:22 – 4:47:04142

Immigrants in Oakland are asking for safety not just from deportation but from violence and crime. Lunar New Year is around the corner and this is supposed to be a time of celebration and revitalization and yet Chinatown and Little Saigon are bracing for the seasonal increase of crime that comes with this holiday. This community, my community, is fearing the worst should be passed should be failed to pass this today and lose access to our network of cameras of two nine 290 cameras by January 1. A large share of immigrants, especially undocumented immigrants, work in small businesses, restaurants, constructions. The very sector is being hit hardest by crime right now.

4:47:05 – 4:47:18142

Restaurants are being robbed repeatedly. Pools are being stolen from construction sites. Stores close early because it's unsafe. And through all of that, workers are losing their jobs. For undocumented workers, there is no safety net.

4:47:18 – 4:47:54142

Losing a job means not having not being able to pay rent or feed a family, not to mention the trauma of being repeatedly subject to crime. And after doing a ride along with our vice operations unit, it is crystal clear. This technology is needed to combat human trafficking, especially to hold traffickers who are perpetuating commercial sex exploitation of our minors in District 2. And finally, this technology is critical for recovering stolen vehicles. Our vehicle death rate is five times the national average and for any resident losing a car is devastating.

4:47:54 – 4:48:19142

But for working class low income Oaklanders who likely lack the comprehensive insurance coverage that pays for such a loss, needing to pay for a replacement car is an enormous financial setback. So none of this means ignoring civil liberties. It means quite the opposite opposite. And with that, I've worked on a set of amendments. I also wanna thank council member Unger for his partnership on this. And I will go ahead and

4:48:194

Council member, does the public have access to this?

4:48:22142

They do not. Yeah. I can read read them.

4:48:264

Order in the chamber.

4:48:29142

Oh, do. Okay. Thank you. Never mind. They're on the desk if you'd like to get a copy.

4:48:324

So the amendments are on the desk if anyone wants to take one.

4:48:36 – 4:48:47142

Okay. All right. So beginning with the section on further resolved. I don't know if I have to read this whole thing just to save time but this is

4:48:474

Please. So read the changes that you're going to do.

4:48:51 – 4:49:18142

Okay. Changes. Yes. So under the section that discusses the city administrator being authorized to enter into that contract, at the end of that clause this is going to add, and the city administrator shall include the following provisions to the contract with FLAC safety. First, FLAC shall not ever enable a national lookup feature capability for the city to access or be enabled by any law enforcement entity.

4:49:19 – 4:50:10142

FLAC will not reintroduce this option to the software, will not allow a toggle on switch to be for this to be reintroduced to the software available in California and will maintain the hard code removal of the national lookup feature. Block will not enable the sharing or accessing of data across state lines and providing for liquidated damages in the event the contractor causes unauthorized sharing of data up to $200,000 measured by the cost of unauthorized sharing of data and estimated cost per records affected and based on the IBM cost of a data breach report of 2025. Four, flock to provide real time alerts. The vendor shall automatically notify both approvers if A, the vendor grants any new agency access, B, the vendor changes any sharing settings and C, any unauthorized agency attempts to run a query. Five, flocked conduct a quarterly certification.

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Each quarter the vendor shall submit a certification signed under perjury of penalty of perjury attesting that no federal or out of state user accessed or attempted to access Oakland data. Oakland data is not discoverable in any national or multi state system and c, all access logs delivered to the city are complete and unaltered, and b it. Second amendment. Further resolve that attachment a d g o I thirty two one community safety camera system is approved with the following additional provisions, That the CS camera data shall not be shared with other agencies for purposes of criminalizing reproductive or gender affirming health care. That CS camera data shall not be shared with local or state agencies for the purpose of federal immigration enforcement.

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Three, that the CS camera system may be used for environmental enforcement efforts to combat illegal dumping. And four, adding a two key approval system barring exigent circumstances, no sharing relationship, data access grant, or modification of sharing permissions may occur unless approved through a two key system consisting of a, the chief privacy officer in the city administrator's office and b, the Oakland Police Department's information technology director. And c, in the event of an exigent circumstance, the city administrator's chief privacy officer will be informed seventy two hours after the exigency ends and should be reported out to the privacy commission at the end at the next meeting. Excuse me. And b, amendment three.

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This is adding a request for proposal process at the end. So further resolved, this agreement will expire in December 2027. Should the Oakland Police Department want to continue contracting for the services contemplated by this resolution, it shall conduct a request for proposal process for vendors that can provide ALPR capacity and facilitate the CS camera sharing system system sharing with Oakland Police Department. Such new RFP process shall be conducted and a vendor selected within the two year time frame of the agreement with FLAC. And be it.

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Amendment four, adding an independent compliance audit. This was how many of the data issues were discovered in other cities. Further resolved, the city council request that the city auditor conduct an independent compliance audit of the system's data security in compliance with the data sharing protocol and to ensure that data is not being shared with federal immigration enforcement. The independent compliance audits will take place at month four, 10/16, and 22 of the two year contract with FLOC and be it.

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Council member, you've exceeded your time. How much more time do you need?

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give you I will give you some of my time. How much more time do

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you need? You. I appreciate it. But that is in short the the amendments. They've been discussed and reviewed by city administrator's office, the police department. Let's see. We also have the city auditor who also discussed all of this with us.

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Thank you. Council member Brown and then president pro tem after that.

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Okay. Excellent. Thank you so much Councilmember Wong for uplifting those amendments. I think I want to start first by just really just super grateful for every community member that came out to speak on this item. As you all know, you know for myself and members of the Public Safety Committee this was our second time hearing the feedback from community And you know I take these, all of the comments very seriously.

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And it's clear that Oaklanders are really divided. And I think that so much of this has to do with the current political landscape that we are in. And so I did want to dispel some information as it relates to this item. I think first off, as many of you know prior to getting in this role I was working at the state level. And so as it relates to the license plate readers we know that you know the state of California approved and funded the license plate readers across the state and the city of Oakland was awarded this technology which was approved by the PAC and voted on by the council unanimously July 2024.

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So that's just some background there. I think also in addition you know as a member of the Rules and Legislation Committee, a scheduling body, I think that on many occasions there are items that come before us that actually require the input of all of the council members. And so as the at large council member representing the entire city of Oakland when my colleagues come to me I take that very seriously and so here we are today. And so on that note you know I took the opportunity to really deep dive and educate myself on ALPR policy both regionally and across the state of California where you have actually many cities regionally that are actually re approving this policy, these policies here in the state of California. And so I reviewed the policies and the contracts across the state of California, our neighbors San Francisco, as well as a jurisdiction in Southern California that is actually currently being sued by the attorney general's office.

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And so on that note and then comparing the policy as was written, the city of Oakland's ALPR policy could benefit from some amendments. So if KTOP can pull up the slides that I have, you know my goal is to ensure that Oakland's legislation is fully aligned with state law as well as the essential protections that are needed in the policy. And so while I continue to share strong apprehensions I do wanna minimize the potential risks it presents, this technology presents and offer some amendments for consideration to my colleagues who plan to vote yes on this item. And the goal is to ensure that these amendments ensure the responsible use of this technology. And so I'll just quickly go through them.

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So the first one really makes clear that you know the under state law the ALPR data sharing is prohibited under SB 34. And so in the current policy as it is written it does not call that out. And so I thought it was important that we put that there in writing so it prohibits state and local law enforcement agencies from sharing, transferring, granting access to, and otherwise making available ALPR information to agencies or out of state law enforcement agencies for any purpose and require agencies to implement written policies, technological controls, audit mechanisms, and contractual safeguards ensuring full compliance. So that's the first amendment. And then the second one calls out so basically in 2023 because of some of the confusion around s b four thirty four and its language, the attorney general clearly set out what is the definition of a public agency.

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And so I wanted to make sure that in in the city's policy, we have this also in writing. And so it says, whereas the California California Attorney General 2023 ALPR bulletin clarified that the term public agency under SB 34 excludes federal and out of state agencies entirely and advises that ALPR camera derived information may not be shared with, accessed by, or made available to such entities directly or indirectly including through vendor managed platforms, regional networks, or cross jurisdictional integrations. And so this language basically we can avoid including this language basically tightens up our policy. Similarly, for item number three, I found that other jurisdictions call attention to the California Values Act which is SB 54 which basically coincides with the city of Oakland sanctuary policies. So this whereas clause says the city of Oakland consistent with s b 54 in its own sanctuary policies prohibit the use of city resources including surveillance technology systems or data to support federal immigration.

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So also including that as a part of the policy as well. My next amendment here has to do with vendor compliance requirements. So basically it's just a summary of kind of what was stated above. And the most important amendment here is three through five, audit logs documenting all attempts including denied access, quarterly compliance reporting to the city, and immediate notification to the city of any attempted or actual unauthorized access. And so these safeguards are consistent with San Francisco and other local jurisdiction policies and also consistent with statewide best practices.

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And so then amendment number five is pretty clear. This one has to do with city oversight and public accountability. And so it just basically states a robust oversight of ALPR camera systems include detailed reporting audits, compliance mechanisms is essential to ensuring transparency, protecting civil liberties, maintaining public trust and therefore such safeguards must be embedded in both departmental policy and contractual agreements. And then let's see. So let's see.

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So then the next one item six, this one focuses in on strengthening, Oakland's policy as well. It says that the city council is, finds it necessarily necessary to explicitly articulate these statutory obligations within this resolution to ensure that the city of Oakland, its police department, and its technology vendors operate in full compliance with state law, which is most important, and community privacy expectations to ensure that these protections govern the interpretation and enforcement of all contractual and operational provisions. And then the last two

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Council member, you've exceeded your time. I'll give you two minutes of mine.

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Thank you. Two more amendments to read on the record, thank you. And so, let's see. Amendment number seven is highlighting just ensuring that our policy also uplifts that no camera data be shared with out of state jurisdictions for the purpose of inquiry or investigation seeking reproductive health care or gender affirming care which is consistent with state law but then also stated here in our own city's policy as well. And then the last amendment here basically is a further resolve clause that the city of Oakland sorry, the city council intends that no ALPR or camera derived information collected by the city, its contractors, its partner agencies shall be shared with, accessed by, or used by any federal or out of state law enforcement agency directly or indirectly unless such action is required by a federal judicial warrant or court order.

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And that all city systems and vendor platforms must be configured and operated in a manner that technically and contractually enforces this requirement. And so these amendments provide Oakland with a clearer and more detailed ALPR policy focused on accountability and this is about making sure that we're doing our due diligence to make sure that this technology is not used in the wrong way.

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Thank you councilmember. So we have two amendments on the floor and no motion. Do either one of you guys wanna make a motion? And then Okay. So let's go to Gayle, Waimachandra.

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You're calling on me first? Okay. I one, I appreciate the work, the recommendations that are being made. And in many ways, I think we're using different words but saying the same thing. And for me, I am in support of FLOC, but I am in support clearly in communicating with our police department that this information that is collected will be kept in Oakland, not shared with federal agencies and other governmental bodies.

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And but at the end of the day, members of the public I grew up in East Oakland, live in East Oakland, and certainly we're living on a different day. And we do need additional support because when I look at my police department, we're we're down 500 officers. And certainly we need cameras on our street like we used to have, because growing up in Oakland, I knew that if there was a red light or a yellow light, I better slow down and stop. And secondly, I clearly knew what the speed limits were, because when I met with AC Transit this past week, they gave me the numbers on International Boulevard. How many people have been hit by autos?

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How many people have been killed in our streets? And I was surprised to hear see the numbers and hear that. So we do need additional support because at one time, we had cameras on just about every intersection. The cameras are still there, but we turned them off. And we turned them off. Well, guess who's getting a lot of the tickets? We turned them off and there therefore, you know, our activity on the streets grew. But when I when I drive over to Alameda, at every entrance to Alameda, whether it's the tube or the bridge, there's eight cameras welcoming me to Alameda. And eight cameras say goodbye to me from Alameda, and therefore, I go over the bridge. Oh, hell.

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You can go to Oakland 90 miles an hour if you want to do as you choose to. Because, you know, there and then I'll leave you with this last one. For me to graduate from our schools in Oakland, at one time, you had to have a driver education class to graduate so you would understand the laws and the rules on how to get a driver's license and not be out there creative running all over our streets. And that's what I see on a a daily basis. And so I'm gonna support the flock camera operations here in Oakland. And secondly, I mean, I I agree with both of your amendments that you have made, and and I'm ready to support that. I would make a

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motion. Motion. So to clarify your motion, you're making a motion with the amendments from council member Wong and council member Brown. Yes. Council member oh, five year before Ramachandra? No. Okay. Not all at once.

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There we go. Thank you. I think this is a really, it's really important to set the fact for all sides of this argument that these cameras alone are not gonna keep us safe and I am really proud to be part of a council that's investing a historic amount in a whole lot of other things that complements other aspects of public safety, including technology, like more money than we ever have put in as a city into our community safety ambassador programs, doing really serious advocate advocacy pushes at the state and federal level for more money for ceasefire and other and other things. And I think this is one of many steps that we're all taking proactively to make this city safer. And I know that's a common goal of everyone on this dias, something that we share.

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Alright. I am skeptical of all tech companies. Last year, I was the sole council member to vote no on contract. Council I really dig deep into thinking, is this technology something I wanna support or not? Does it make financial sense?

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Will we get a net positive value out of it? And I can't definitively say flock is you know, there's I know there were some graphs presented that I have some concerns with, but I think with barely 500 officers on the ground, there are tools we do need to take advantage, especially because every other city in the Bay Area is doing it. Oakland will be a glaring gap. Every one of our neighbors, Berkeley, Emeryville, San Leandro, Alameda, Hayward, San Francisco, Daly City, Concord, Walnut Creek, the list go Fremont, the list goes on. We will be the only gap.

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But also, I think the most important thing to note is there are so many flock cameras that the city does not have any control over that are privately owned. There are a number of homeowners associations in my district who have bought into this system. There are a number of business improvement districts that have bought into this system and similar systems. And so whether we like it or not, the surveillance is already everywhere. And I don't like it, but it is not something that this city alone has the power to do, especially since every city around us in the entirety of the Bay Area has the same technologies.

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But you know what they don't have? The number of safeguards that we're putting in, especially with these amendments. The fact that we have confirmation from OPD and I've really dug into this because I like I said, I'm skeptical of all tech companies. The fact that we have changed our flock system from having from being able to search any terms to a drop down list of things you can pick out to search that does not include CBP or ICE, I think that's something that frankly, all cities that have flock should adopt, but it is one of the many ways that we are serious about our safeguards. And I'm speaking for myself, but I'm pretty sure the rest of this council feels the same way.

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If there is the slightest indication that this policy is being violated and used to harm our most vulnerable communities, we'll cancel the contract. Two this is a two year experiment.

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Order in the chamber.

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We've had these cameras for two years already. And what we need to do is be able to continue this while we have it and if and see if these additional safeguards lead to both increased efficacy as well as not having incidents. And I know that this, coupled with the many other non o p d related public safety efforts that we are taking, are gonna help in conjunction make our city safer. And I know not everyone shares that opinion of mine, but I think that I know that everyone on this council wants to make build a safer city, and this is one tool that I think will help us get there. And I say this having originally been a skeptic of any of these companies. So I'm happy to support the amendments.

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Is that a second or you we'll let one of the who's there? Is there a second? So the so Houston for the second. Council member Houston, I'm gonna go to council member Unger Wong and then I'll come back to you and fight. Or fight for you.

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Thank you. So you know, before I start, I just want to acknowledge that this is an incredibly fraught topic and that tensions and words on both sides have been running high. But I have spoken with hundreds, thousands of people. I know my colleagues have too. And all I've seen are people who are genuinely coming from a place of concern for their neighbors, people who are motivated by wanting their family and other families to be safe.

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And I think we have a chance to have a real and valuable discussion about the merits of the issue and this is a chance for us to extend the presumption of goodwill and fair debate to people who we don't agree with. I'm not under any illusions that Flock is a perfect company and I would never claim that we can forestall or prevent every potential negative thing that might happen in the future, but it's also true that I can't guarantee that there will be no negative sequelae if we remove the cameras and announce to the world that we are no longer using them. And that's why I think our goal here is to do the best we can, you know, we're not aiming for perfection, we're not aiming for papal infallibility, and you know, I think that's why the road forward here, by my lights, is to add as many amendments as we can to embed safeguards and guardrails into the contract. And I am very heartened by the volume of amendments here and the type of amendments here. You know, Council Member Wong and I worked together on these and Council Member Brown has a has a suite of really excellent amendments.

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And, you know, with these amendments, we are limiting the reach of the program, limiting the use of the program, limiting the people and entities and the ways that they can access the program. We are clarifying the need and the timeline for an RFP and implementing penalties against the company for misuse. And so I also want to clarify what this program is not. This is not Orwellian facial recognition technology that is prohibited in Oakland. This is not a program that reads our email or listens into our bedrooms.

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This is a camera that photographs license plate, the sole purpose of which is to connect people to their vehicles. I personally don't feel that my license plate is a piece of closely guarded technology, but I understand that other people may differ and I respect that opinion. Crime has been reducing over the past two years and we should all agree that's a good thing. I don't think we can pin crime reduction on any one factor. I think it's a testament to the work of our police department, to the Department of Violence Prevention, to cease fire, to the end of the pandemic.

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And it also coincides with our city's usage of license plate reader technology. And I don't think we can credit any one of those things, but neither can we definitively eliminate any of them. And I think that we should all agree that we can celebrate this reduction in crime. And, you know, again, with these amendments that that the three of us have proposed, will this program be perfect? No, it won't.

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But will we have the strongest safeguards of any city in the Bay Area using cameras? We will. I think if if this was a slam dunk decision, we wouldn't be having this kind of debate. You know, anyone looking for surety, certainty, definitive black and white answers is going to be disappointed here. But our job as council members, unfortunately, is to make the least bad decisions we can with the incomplete foresight into the future that we have.

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And I want to thank everyone who has taken the time to talk to me. I think that, obviously, I don't agree with everyone that I've talked to, but I do think that that engagement and those conversations have really helped inform me to develop these amendments and make this program better. So I thank everyone who's been involved, and I really think we need to double down on that presumption of goodwill amongst our neighbors. We're all looking for the same thing. We're all looking for safety and and security for all of Oakland.

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Thank you. So before I go to council members that happen to spoke, council member Fife, would you like to have a word?

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It's on. There we go. I I just wanna say I I definitely appreciate the sentiment coming from my colleagues, but I am in vehement disagreement with giving good faith or goodwill to a vendor that's shown to be unscrupulous. This this is not coming out of thin air that this vendor has been extremely problematic, which is the cause of why so many cities have relinquished their relationships or amended their relationship with this vendor. And I wanna be clear because there are some of my colleagues that are going to other elected officials saying that council member Fife is anti technology, which is ridiculous.

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I'm anti flock. I'm anti Trump. I'm anti Peter Thiel. I'm anti a surveillance state. And if we can do our due diligence by having a vendor which has not been clearly identified why there was not a procurement process for for this particular contract, then I don't know what we're doing here.

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I don't know how we get up and have several press conferences talking about how we are supportive of a sanctuary city status, but then use a vendor that has been shown to have a direct relationship with border control. It doesn't make sense to me because we can ask for another vendor. So I wanna ask OPD, our lieutenant, to come back up and and just clarify something that I am not understanding, which is the where we are in the MOU. If we have lieutenant I'm not I said I was not gonna mess up your name, and I am. I apologize.

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Lieutenant Gabriel. Can can you tell us I I read that this contract expires at the December, I believe, through the chair.

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Technically, the contract expired and please correct me if I'm wrong doctor Bergman, that it would have expired in July 2025 based on when we started the contract. We were in the process of trying to get this contract through since at least April And that's been held up as we've gone through the the process. But the actual termination of the service was going to be January 1 if we did not have resolution.

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So when did the contract start and who was the contract with?

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Sorry. I'd like to make a correction on Doctor. Beckman. So we went through this with the privacy commission in 2024 and we went through this body as well and we executed a series of two MOUs. One was between us and CHP and the other was between us and FLAC.

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The MOU between us and CHP was for the term of overall three years. However, in that MOU we were made an agent agent of of the the contract contract between between FLAC and CHP. They had that agreement done before we signed our agreement, our MOU with CHP. So I believe it was 03/29/2024 that CHP had signed their contract with FLAC. That summer, in July I believe, we executed the agreements between us and CHP and then us and FLAC.

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So that contract between CHP and FLAC expired in March. We have been attempting to go through all of the bodies to be able to have our own contract because that was always the agreement that CHP would allow that contract to be for one year and then the city of Oakland would be contingent upon us to continue and execute our own contract with Fock.

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I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you to clarify a few things because you said there was a contract between city of Oakland, OPD, and CHP as one contract and one MOU.

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There was one MOU.

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Yes, ma'am.

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And then there was another MOU between OPD and FLAC.

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Yes. So that MOU is what allowed us to be an agent of the CHP flock contract, ma'am.

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How long was that MOU that allowed us to be the agent?

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That MOU should have been for one year. So it would have been from March to March essentially through March.

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But the other one between us and CHP was three years?

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Yes ma'am.

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So which

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Well the contract, so the contract that made us the agent was for one year because that's how long the contract length was. But the MOU that was approved between us and CHP which allowed data sharing and a few other things was approved for three years.

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And so that would end in 2027?

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Yes ma'am. It would be the 2027.

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So which one are we extending?

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We're extending the actual contract that was for one year from March to March.

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But we're not we're not carrying on with the exact same language. I mean there are several amendments

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here. That is correct. Because we have not executed a contract since then. We're going through that process and these amendments will be a part of that.

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Well, I don't understand why we, why one is effective and the other is not, why why we are not under the same 2027 end of contract for that particular MOU.

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I can only report to you what what they are. This went through legal, this went through all of the bodies but that is how this particular contract was executed. We were given one year of the contract with CHP and that ended in March.

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But we also have three years with CHP?

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We have an MOU to do data sharing for up to three years, but it does not include the contractual piece.

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Understood. Thank you. Thank you for that.

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Of course.

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What my my just my concern is that we are not acknowledging the role of the privacy advisory commission and all of the other data that has come forward around the the ease of hacking for this vendor. I've seen countless YouTube videos about I how to do just haven't had the courage to get up there and try it myself. But if if what they're saying is true, then then we should be concerned. And I'm also not clear how we know that flock is the best provider if there hasn't been procurement. How do we know that there is not another provider that could that is more reputable, that would not share information with with border patrol or any other federal agencies.

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Because I'm my concern is not the strength of Oakland's policies and all of the amendments that we're putting in, my concern is the fallibility of the vendor. Right? And how do we safeguard against them especially when there's language in in the legislation around us being compelled to share information. It's it's Especially under this federal government that we can be compelled to give information regardless of how strong our legislation is, and I need someone to to answer that for me. Why can't we choose another vendor?

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We could choose another vendor. However, in the time that it would take us to execute that contract, we would lose the capability of utilizing FLoC. If we do not start working on an agreement, like if we do not receive approval tonight, we will lose access to those cameras as of January 1.

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Okay. So Council

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member, your time's up, but I will

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Well, you've given

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Absolutely. No. No. That's what I'm yeah. You as many as you need. Two minutes?

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Sure. Okay. So can we accept this contract tonight? Well, since folks are adding amendments, if we have to so we don't lose access tonight, then I would like to limit the two year contract to one year while we go forward with an RFP process to find vendor that has a better track record than flock.

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Through the chair, may I ask that that be extended to eighteen months because of the length of the procurement process that it takes?

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Yes, absolutely. If that would allow us to do procurement.

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So to the motioner and the seconder, is that a friendly amendment council member Fife?

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Okay. Council member, OPD first.

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So I I think originally we were looking

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Pizza that's what we're Alright.

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On behalf of the Oakland Police Department, we would prefer the contract to be for the full two years in order to go through the RFP process and come back. And again, I think that looking at other vendors is a serious endeavor and we need to get it right. And I don't wanna rush back into this process.

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I I feel like that's fine. And I hope that two years is not rushing. I hope that eighteen months or even twelve months wouldn't be rushing into a process. I understand the importance of moving towards greater public safety and I wanna make sure that our most vulnerable populations are protected as well because we have we're not even in a year into this Trump administration where they have said that they're going to detain and deport 3,000 people per month. And so they've not even gotten started yet with the the increase to the budget that Homeland Security has.

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So it's not a matter of if, it's when. We've seen the ramp up of this aggression. We just saw it we just saw it in my district. And so I I want to protect all populations. I am I support technology, but I do not want to conflate flock with all technology and that's what we're doing here right now.

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And I also want to point out the because there were statements made violence and people not being able to speak. There was a public speaker, a a man here that is using Trump language and white supremacist language yelling at me while I'm dealing with another situation over in the corner that was of urgency with my staff saying America America first, which is a white supremacist tagline, it's dog a dog whistle that we need to be paying attention to and extremely aggressive in his language. We need we have to understand what we're doing here. So I know people think that it's it's it's trying to like say that this is not something that's a reality, but we are ush we just saw a whole twenty thousand minute video that was produced by the recall right. And then we're wondering about how why there's no trust is because I apologize council president.

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need to stay inside my time.

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Okay. So So

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I I made a friendly amendment. I want to be clear that there are other agencies that are advocating behind these amendments that are not in the room and we've heard from thousands and thousands of residents about why this is not the right vendor for Oakland. I am offering my friendly amendment.

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Council member to bridge you and OPD, is it possible that we can say eighteen to twenty four months if they can do it as fast

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as eighteen? Can I also weigh in here council president since amendment three in the packet does have the request for proposal? So I had actually had a discussion with OPD yesterday about a one and a half year timeline as well but we had discussed that it's important to vet this thoroughly and especially with the involvement with the PAC that may extend the timeline further and so it wound up getting us back to two years. Thank you.

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To council member Fife, would eighteen to twenty four months with us asking the city administrator and OPD to at all costs take precautions while expediting this process, would that be okay for a friendly amendment from you?

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Eighteen months is the I think the highest that I would first for me, FLAC is a nonstarter. I just want to be It's a nonstarter. But I understand that you all are, you know, you have your your constituents to to speak to and 24 is the same as two years, so I don't understand how that's a change.

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Well, I guess what I'm offering with the friendly amendment is hoping that OPD can get there in eighteen months but if they get there in nineteen, twenty months that would be something. You're firm on your eighteen months, I'm fine with that. To the motioner in the second are you guys okay with the friendly amendment?

5:28:25 – 5:28:48142

Yeah. I'm I'm fine with that. And I also wanted to offer that the way that we can also combine council member Brown's amendments and minds. Council council member Brown's amendments are mostly for the whereas clauses whereas mine are mostly further resolved. I think the only amendment where we have a conflict is your amendment seven and council member Unger's and mine

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excuse Our me

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amendment two, I would suggest that our amendment two

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Can over hold that? Let's get to council member Ramachandra and then we'll come back to merging amendments.

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Oh, thank you. I was just gonna support the eighteen months. And also just a reminder that we didn't pick Flock in the first place. The state gave us the cameras and Flock was the vendor of choice. I'm a 100% open to looking at others and just seconding. I think everyone's in agreement eighteen months makes sense.

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Okay. So we have that. I'm gonna go to council member Houston then we'll go to the merging of the amendments.

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Yes. So, to the chair we were the motion. Gayle was the motioner and I was the second.

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Oh, my apologies. I thought it was

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No I'm sorry. I'm just I'm just sharing that because I like to know how will eighteen months affect chief Tedesco not what we think. How will it affect you in that kind of way? I mean what will it do? What's the positive negative of that chief should I say chief? I shouldn't say chief Tedesco.

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Through the chair deputy chief Anthony Tedesco.

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Deputy chief. Okay.

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Process as experienced over the last eighteen months with going through the privacy advisory commission and coming back and really doing the work to seek out other vendors in the space, especially considering that it would be a departure from what, as was stated earlier, nearly all of the other Bay Area cities have adopted. It's something that is going to take us time to get right. And it is not something that the police department wants to rush into.

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Right. Right.

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I do think that process will legitimately take eighteen to twenty four months to complete.

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So to the chair as the the seconder. Deputy chief had said something very important and so so did council member Janani said every other city, every we gotta keep remembering that every hear this, every other city is doing this. We wanna be in unison with every other city almost like we do with the EAP. We wanna be in unison. So I want to accept it the way I wanted to accept it the way it was without any amendments but after I heard Brown's amendments and Wayne's amendments it sounds good and the police is okay with it.

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But I don't want what I as the as the seconder I do not want to rush them to do their job the right way. So if we could say eighteen to twenty four months because it was we were saying twenty four months right so it's between there I'll roll with that eighteen to twenty four months.

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Okay. So we have eighteen months, alright. Stop.

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It's only six months difference.

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Please Dean, please stop. So how about we go eighteen months if OPD cannot cannot meet that requirement they should come back to public safety? Would you

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Let's just say between eighteen to twenty four months. They're gonna do the best. Why would we wanna force them to do something in a in a untimely manner. It doesn't even make sense.

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They're the ones that's gonna do it. We need to do it right now.

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So the resolution approves the contract for two years. Right? So Mhmm. We're not gonna be able to parse it. It's gonna be eighteen or it's gonna be twenty four months.

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So let's just oh, it's

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gonna be eighteen or? Eighteen or. Let's do twenty four.

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We just yeah. Let's just do it like that.

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Yeah. Okay. So

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your district Right.

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Mind, I raise each other.

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We should be here talking

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Let's just do it like this.

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Okay. Or I hear you. One second. One One second president, president. What we could do is a straw poll. Yeah, know. What we could do is a straw poll. Alright. And then yeah. So let's do a straw poll.

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Okay. So there's a motion and a second. As it is. As it was. For twenty four months. Four months. That's it. Okay. And there's a friendly amendment. Did you accept the friendly amendment?

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The two friendly amendments. Yeah.

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No no no. So accepting the friendly amendment would mean that you're accepting the eighteen months as opposed to the 20 No. Four

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We want the 20 per So

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we'll take a vote on this. Yeah. Alright. Council Member Brown?

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I believe Councilmember Wong wanted to talk about amendment seven and then her amendment two. And I think maybe the best call is to as we are voting on this perhaps maybe I remove my amendment seven and we just, since it is the same as her amendment two, section two. We're basically saying the same thing, right? Her mic. Can someone turn her mic on?

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Okay. So yeah, just our amendment two and your amendment seven are to the exact speak to the exact same thing. Think given that our amendment two if you're okay with this council member Brown says it includes the two key approval system that it it be the version that gets adopted and we exclude your amendment seven. Makes sense. You're okay with that? Yeah. Okay. Fantastic. Okay.

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Council Member Ramachandra. Yeah. Okay. So, how many are in support of eighteen months? We're trying to see how many of the council members are in support of eighteen months as opposed to twenty four months. So, there's one, two, there's two. Okay. A straw poll for eighteen versus twenty four months. As written? So you want an as written?

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So it seems like there's more support for as written. It's called a straw ball. It's in the bra. It's called a straw ball. So now, if there is no more debate, to the motionary on the second, do you accept the amendments from council member Brown and Wong? Yeah. Okay. Alright. Let's go to a vote. Oh, one more.

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Clarifying question. Do you when when they collect when OPD gets through the chair to OPD, when you get the information from the flock cameras, do humans have to review it? Like investigators?

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And I'm trying to understand the question. Sorry. We have cameras Yes.

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That detect information. What happens with that information in the case of investigating investigating a a crime? Crime?

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So if yes. If there is a license plate that's known, you'd conduct the search using the license plate information. It would pull up the information of that vehicle and, yes, that would be reviewed by a human. So we're not making investigative decisions based on

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AI. AI. So do we have more investigators to have more human eyes on this data?

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We we do review it. So if it's, say it's related to a robbery investigation, it would be the investigator that's looking at it. But we also or investigators in ceasefire are using this technology, they're also reviewing it.

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My question is don't we need more investigators to review the data? Or because if we have an uptick with, you know, the expansion of this contract, don't we need more people to then get more data to review?

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Through the chair. Better, more accurate information enables fewer investigators to solve more cases.

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So we don't need more investigators?

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The Oakland Police Department, as I have stated previously, does need more investigators. But that does not mean that if they have less information that they will be better off. Better, more accurate, more timely information means that they will have the opportunity to solve more cases.

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Okay. I'm I will be looking for that correlation between more solved cases in the future so that we can actual actually have a correlation between what we're doing and what we're contracting for. So that's all because it seems like we need more investigators to address these issues, but data will data will show. Thank you.

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Okay. Brown, then Ramachandra then, I'm with Gayle. It's time for your vote.

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Okay. And so we did we just did quickly consult it with the city attorney's office. And so my amendment seven and council member Wong's amendment two are not in conflict so we would be voting on these items exactly as is.

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As amended. Okay. Council member Ramachandra, last comment before we vote.

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Well, I'd like to propose

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a friendly amendment to make it 18 to 20 form sorry. Eighteen to twenty months if that is of interest to my colleagues and

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To the parliamentarian.

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Through the chair to the council, what's before you is a resolution that authorizes a two year contract? So I we if the maker of the friendly amendment could clarify what would be 18 to 20. There's a contract there's a date certain for the contract term or a certain term length. So

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Well, I will then my friendly amendment would be, again, to then make it eighteen months with the opportunity to go month to month up to two years.

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That's that's something council member Gyle, council member Houston, do you accept the motion? No. Okay. Madam Clerk.

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On item nine moved by council member excuse me, Pro Tem Guayo, seconded by council member Houston to approve item nine with the Wong and Brown amendments which includes both sections seven and two at this point. Council member Brown. Oh, I forgot I have to do it. I. Council member Fife. Flock, no. Council member Gayle?

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Aye. Just

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a reminder, you don't have to get in the queue. Otherwise, it's gonna make it difficult for me to call on you. Council member Houston.

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Council member Ramachandran. Aye. Council member Unger. Aye. Council member Wong. Aye. And chair Jenkins.

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Motion passes with a vote of seven ayes.

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I'll entertain a motion to I'm sorry.

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And one no council member Feife.

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I'll entertain a motion to adjourn into a ten minute break. Ten minute break. Okay. No one wants a break.

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Moving to item 6.1. If you can exit the chambers quietly. I need a motion to open the public hearing.

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I understand the motion to open the public hearing. Unger and Brown.

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On the motion to open the public hearing, move by council member Unger, second by council member Brown. Council member Brown. Aye. Council member Fife. Aye. Council member Gayle. Aye. Council member Houston. Council member Ramachandran? Aye. Council member Unger? Aye. Council member Wong? Aye. Chair Jenkins?

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Public hearing is open with a vote of eight ayes. I will read the item into record. Conduct a public hearing and upon conclusion adopt a resolution finding Matthew Bernard and Lynn Warner owners of record of assessor parcel number 4887672 Dash 18 in violation of Oakland municipal code chapter 12.36 protected trees by illegally removing 38 protected trees at said parcel and imposing a penalty per chapter twelve point thirty six point one five zero of the Oakland municipal code of a total sum of $915.135 dollars and 40 I'm sorry. $915,000.135 dollars and 40¢ to place on hold any building permits and place a lien for said property until the penalty is paid in full. You do have three speakers on this item.

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Please allow this speaker five minutes please, the presenter. Will five minutes suffice for your presentation? Will five minutes suffice for your presentation? Yes. Alright.

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Please proceed.

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Good evening council. I'm Todd Lawson, boricultural inspector for public Oakland Public Works Parks and Tree Services. I'm a certified arborist with the International Society of Arboriculture for the past twenty two years. I am tree risk assessment qualified. From February 2021 to May 2022, property owner of Parcel 48 H Dash 7672 Dash 18 on Claremont Avenue, Matthew Bernard, illegally moved 38 trees.

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The trees were on his property and neighboring property. The on multiple documented occasions, mister Barnard was informed that an approved tree removal permit was required in the city of Oakland to remove protected trees. This information was passed to him by mail, email, and in person by tree staff, OPD, and adjacent property owners. Tree staff sent mister Bernard an illegal tree removal letter on 03/25/2021. This letter informed him that a fine for the value of the trees may be assessed, and all development related permits will be put on hold.

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At that time, 23 trees had been removed from the property. This letter is attachment two. On 06/04/2021, mister Barnard applied for a tree removal permit waiver. Tree staff set up a site meeting and inspection for 1PM on 06/07/2021. Mister Barnard canceled the site meeting and inspection the morning of 06/07/2021.

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The permit waiver is attachment three. Mister Bernard contact contracted Julian Tree Care Incorporated to be an applicant for a nondevelopment tree removal permit on June 5 on excuse me. 06/25/2021. The permit was denied on 08/10/2021 for unclear number of trees being removed, unclear reason for removal, improper location of trees, and no drainage plan. This is, attachment number five.

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On March 2022 to May 2022, 15 more trees were removed from the property. There are presently no trees on this property. Tree staff responded to this property seven times for reports of illegal removal. OPD responded to this property four times to five times. Police reports are attachment six, seven, and eight.

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In my thirty four years with the city of Oakland tree department, this is the most egregious illegal tree removal case. Mister Bernard knowingly ignored the protected tree ordinance and OPD instructions. On my last site inspection, mister Menard instructed his workers to not listen to the city guy, and they ignored my presence and cut down the last thirty eighth tree. The assessed value of the 38 protected trees is $909,600. Tree staff is asking that the protected tree ordinance be upheld and the property owner fined for the removal of the 38 protected trees. Thank you.

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And we do have some pictures to show you. I'm Gordon Matassa, board certified master arborist and acting senior supervisor of the tree division. So we just want to show you some of the parcel. This is what the parcel looked like before any actions were taken by mister Bernard. This is the parcel since.

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There are no trees left. Here is the street view prior to any tree removals, legal tree removals, here it is post tree removals. This map is a bigger picture of what you have in your attachments, showing where all the trees are, color coded based off of when they were removed, or when we noticed they were removed on the inspection date. Here is mister Bernard in action removing the tree illegally on the property. And this is what it looks like. Again, another shot of what it looks like now. Thank you.

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That was efficient. Alright. Is mister Bernard here? Alright. You have five minutes. Come on up.

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some copies of Bernard.

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The clerk will pass them out. Mister Bernard, you can speak from right there. No. No. I will right there.

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It's okay.

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It's okay. It's okay. It's okay.

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Please proceed.

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Good evening council members and audience. My name is Professor Matthew Bernard. I'm originally from Nigeria and immigrated to The United States in twenty in two thousand and one. I received scholarship support and the National Science Foundation NSF Research Ground at University of California Berkeley where I completed a degree in applied mathematics and graduate level coursework and research in probability theory and stochastic processes. I am the founder and global head of quantitative research at Angel Osoft.

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I'm also an adjunct professor at Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology in the departments of Higher Mathematics and Theoretical Physics, and a reviewer in probability theory and stochastic processes for ZB math, also known as Zentrabart math. I'm also a father and an active parishioner at Saint Dominic's Church in San Francisco, where I serve as catechist, mass server, mass coordinator, and usher. I am a lay Dominican, also known as third order Dominican within the order of preachers. Today marks one of the lowest moments of my adult life, as I must defend myself against systemic harassment, bias, favoritism, and microaggression, including the following. First, the notice of violence and mischaracterization.

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Under the summary of the events in the notice of violence, Mr. Isaac Harvey, the author of the notice, mischaracterizes my conduct by falsely claiming. Matthew Bernard replied to the street service staff by forcefully and abruptly telling staff in some that this is his property. He will not engage in dialogue or respect authority or jurisdiction of street service staff. These are serious and damaging accusations against my character.

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I categorically deny these claims and consider them harassment and defamation. Secondly, delay sale claims and lack of evidence. Why did the city of Oakland Bureau of Environment wait more than three years to file a notice of violation based on belief rather than contemporaneous evidence? This delay is referenced in the final paragraph of the notice. Attachment one lacks accurate photographic references, having been issued three years and two months after the alleged incidents.

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The area map view of alleged illegal tree removals on sheet nine of the notice used to quantify and calculate appraised value is merely Google Earth area photograph. No hard markers, no verified site surveys, no contemporaneous measurement that have been carried out to substantiate their claims. Raising concerns that are based that these are just based on memory or assumptions rather than evidence. I accordingly, I asked, where are the original reports and photographic documentation from the three division staff for each of the alleged protected trees? Where are the violation notices, service, area photographs, and citizens report of illegal tree removals from February 2021 through May 2022.

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Validation, evaluation and survey deficiencies. Where are the ASI TFT calculations? These are some metrics in the industry standards to measure the value of trees. Where are they that are to be used to determine the monetary value of history? Proper disclosure is necessary to ensure the evaluation is accurate and not based on belief either.

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Where are the tree or site service had markers from the city of Bureau of Environment confirming that seven trees were removed from private or city properties, specifically two on trees two trees on 741 Claremont Avenue, four trees on 280 Stonewall Drive, and one tree allegedly on city property. Why was the 06/26/2021 tree survey by mister Ricardo Terrazas Junior, my ASA certified arborist whom I hired. Why was this document not disclosed nor attached? After I sent it to mister Todd. In that survey, mister Ricardo in line certified arborist noted that the hillside was very steepy, that many trees leaned approximately 45 degrees towards the street, and that these trees had poor structure.

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Basically, if I wasn't listening to a survey, I stand the chance of being held liable. We saw that January, I think, 2023 rainfall, 2022 rainfall that knocked off a lot of trees. Some of those tree could have fallen on my neighbor's house and I'll be liable big time. I further request the disclosure of all paid trip removal, three three permits

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Thank you so much, mister Bernard. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thank you so much mister Bernard. Council member Ramachandran as this is in your district, I will call on you first.

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Thank you. Can we hear public comment before I ask or is that fine?

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Yes. Sure. Let's go to public comment.

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Brian Culberson and Miss Asada Olavala. Seeing no speakers in chambers, I will move to the speakers on Zoom.

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I I have raised my hand. Can you hear me?

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Yes. Go ahead.

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It it's quite confusing how the city is able to

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Miss Zada, go ahead and unmute yourself again and begin your comments. Miss Asada, please unmute yourself again and begin your comments.

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K. Can you hear me now?

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Yes. Go ahead.

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Could you stop the clock at one minute, please? It's you. It's a it's un it's not understandable how the city has the capacity to identify on a person's property every tree by name, especially when the trees many of the trees had already been cut down. It's also, this this ordinance that you have, protected tree ordinance, says that a person can be arrested and subject to arrest based on cutting down trees. We have an ordinance that protects people, protects trees, but we don't have anything to protect African Americans in this city.

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I just don't understand how the evidence of how this employee of the city is able to identify every tree on this man's property. Unless you did that beforehand, many of those trees perhaps were down before you even got there. And waiting three years before you take action, police police being called about trees, this sounds kinda flaky.

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Thank you, missus Satter. Is mister Culberson in here? Mister Culberson on Zoom? Alright. That concludes public comment. Council member Ramachandra.

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Thank you. I have a couple of questions. This is a really big case. Usually, the tree questions are about one to four trees, and this is 38. Can I ask a couple of questions to, the appellant sorry?

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The staff staff first first and and then then the the appellant? Appellant. So just to confirm a couple of facts really quick, This the the alleged tree cutting down of 38 trees happened between February 2021 and May 2022. But why was the was the notice of violation filed in that period of time, or was it only three years later? And if so, why?

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The delay is that our enforcement arm has been removed. They were laid off in 2008. They are the park rangers. I have no one to call. Also, the process is kind of a little bit out of date and doesn't function real well due to the layoffs that have happened over the years. The tree department is 55% understaffed, and we are doing multiple jobs. So, therefore, we, Kristen?

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Hi. I just wanna add to that. Kristen Hathaway, assistant director of public works. The delay was, due in part to the the staff working on the process for this and receiving various direction on when we should file and what evidence we needed. So there was a delay in terms of filing it based on direction that staff received.

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Thank you. Think that's an issue if for a case this big that it wasn't addressed in a faster period of time. I have a couple of quick questions for the appellant. I can come up to the Do you acknowledge that you did cut down 38 trees? No.

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According to the arborist report, the arborist said I should cut down eight trees. And there were only eight trees. They were all hazardous, dead and dying. And I think I don't know if you have a copy of this report.

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What you submitted? Yes.

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Okay. So, the exhibit sheets which is on page four, it shows all the trees that were removed and the arborist report that I got before doing that. So, I hired an arborist who took the local study of these trees and examined them. Some of the noted things were like tree one has hazardous leaning and dieback. Tree two has structural defect.

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Tree three had leaning near a house. Three, four had dried, falling debris everywhere, including the tree itself, also dying, and it could fall any moment on passerbys on the street. Three, five had fallen, in fact uprooted tree completely. If you look at that picture, the tree was completely uprooted and three six anyway, is there any way I could respond to some of these things?

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I'm up to the chair about timing for each side, but I mean, just to clarify, there's a big discrepancy here. The city says you cut down 38 trees. You said you cut down eight trees. It is eight trees you cut down, did you how once once you were informed that you were violating the protected tree ordinance, why did you not stop cutting the trees?

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Oh, well, the this is how the the operation worked. I have the harvest reports and then I applied for the tree removal permit and they sent me these pictures to post on those trees, public notices, and I did. And I basically thought I already have the permit and I went ahead and removed those eight trees.

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Did you get a physical permit?

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I hadn't gotten it in the mail yet, but I had this public notice that was sent to me, and I also paid the application fee. But also, why this came up, they never notified me of any violation until I applied for a building permit. And then the neighbor I wish I could speak on the neighbor's harassment also, which is on page two. That will help kind of put things into perspective.

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So the allegations are also that you cut down trees on your neighbor's property and city Do you deny that?

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I deny that. I I did I did not at all.

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Okay. And then after you applied

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Why would

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city's the department's also saying that after you applied for the building permit to actually create the home, you cut down more trees?

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No. No. No. It was only these eight trees. However, the neighbor, I wish I could talk more about the harassment. He was one that kept calling cops on me and even lied in the because we had a dispatch transcript from the dispatcher where the neighbor lied that he had a police order. He he will present to the police officer that he had a there's an order that says I shouldn't remove any tree, and it was That wasn't true.

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And One more thing that the staff had said was that they were present and told you in person to stop cutting down the tree, but you continued

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Not at all. Not at all. I remember there was a time that I someone across the street and he was just yelling from the

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I could not I could just I never thought if it was if this was the right way to tell me when I'm reviewing a dangerous street that basically I'm trying to Well, I'm I'm all about safety and someone is yelling at across the street, stop, don't stop, stop. And, it just doesn't look very professional. I thought if it's a city official, will give me send me a mail or something like that.

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You never got anything in the mail saying that you're in violation of the tree That

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was much later. That was much later. And and at that time, the the tree the tree was already done removed.

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Okay. To the staff really quickly, there's a really big discrepancy between eight trees and 38 trees and being told that he had permits when he didn't. Can you respond to clarifying any of this?

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Yes. The first time I responded, he had already cut down 23 trees and he has removed the evidence also. During the

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Sorry. Could you clarify what is removing the evidence mean? Like, how do you

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know the trees from the property.

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Okay. And how do you know 23 trees were cut?

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There are stumps on-site that you can see. Okay. And the arborist report he is speaking of was submitted when he had the contractor apply for a tree removal permit, an nondevelopment tree related permit. And that is the permit that was denied for all the insufficient irregularities. And when I asked for the proper information, all of that never materialized.

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And so with the timeline that I had, I had to deny the permit because none of the questions were being asked. And in one particular tree, the best I could figure is that it was a shared property owner tree and I cannot give a permit for a tree that is partially on somebody else's property. And I would need either written permission from that property, the adjacent property owner, or I would need a professional survey with a wet seal that states that that tree is 100% on his property. That was never provided. When you strip a hillside of all vegetation, you're supposed to the ordinance says you need a drainage plan.

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That was not provided. He was wanting the permit was for three trees, but the arborist report was for eight trees. I didn't know what three of the eight trees he was wanting to remove. And then when you showed up on-site, there was about eight to 10 trees. Which one or which three was he wanting to remove? That information wasn't shared also. Okay. So for those reasons, I had to deny the permit.

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And when was that permit requested?

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That was the,

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excuse me,

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Okay. So she'll go and then I'll ask the parliamentarian your question. President Berthoud.

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Thank you. I'll just one last question. To the applicant, would you be opening clearly, there's a lot of discrepancies in what's going on. And would you be opening open to continuing the matter to see if you can hash things out a little more and then come to us in February 2026?

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Could you explain more what that entails, please?

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If you can come to an agreement on some of the facts and penalties outside of this body.

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You're out of order.

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Your honor, we submitted the drainage plan and I'm open to maybe we also submitted landscaping plan to help with the vegetation on the hillside. My architect is here. And I wish I could also speak more on the harassment on the intersection between the neighbor and him. The neighbor was really angry that I that those dangerous trees were

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So council member, this is absolutely riveting. Can we can we get to something? We have a lot more items. One second. Let's respect the council member of the district. Council member, while you're having a sidebar, I will let I'll let council member Houston go.

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Should we be talking about this in closed session

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or what? To the parliamentarian. And and and did they make a police report? To the parliamentary.

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The Oakland Municipal Code allows for an appeal hearing before the city council. So that's why this is here before you today.

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Okay. So through the chair I wanna did did did they make a police report

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to the staff? Was there a police report made? A what? A police report?

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Yes. There's four police reports. Okay. I believe three are attached to the documents that were given to you. And I believe they came other times contacted by adjacent property owners. I would like to say too that I had a conversation with mister Barnard with two officers present in the street and told him directly exactly what he needed to do. And this was in the beginning process.

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Alright. Council member Brown? Nope. No tree talk for you. Council member Ramos Hondrich, what are we doing?

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I I will motion to continue this until the first council meeting in February.

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We gotta hear this again? Alright. I'll second that. Mister? I hear you. Alright. So there's a motion and a second. This will be continued to February 1 meeting for council.

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this the motion is to continue and to close public hearing. Is that correct?

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Alright. Continue to the first meeting in February.

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On the motion moved by council member Ramachandra and seconded by council president Jenkins to continue this item to February 3. Council member Brown? Aye. Council member Fife is excused. Council member Gayle? Aye. Council member Houston? Aye. Council member Ramachandra?

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apologize. I've gotten some more sage guidance. Can I change my motion to continuing the item to February 3, but keeping the public hearing open so that public can weigh in as there were not other as there might be others who want to weigh in on this?

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I So there were there was already public comment?

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Not but keeping the hearing open, I believe, will let us continue to, at the February meeting, take more comment. I defer to the parliamentarian if that is not the case.

6:11:56 – 6:12:0831

Through the chair, I think you can close the public hearing if you want to eliminate any further public discussion on it or you can continue this item and keep it opened.

6:12:09 – 6:12:304

Okay. So your wish is to allow for more public comments. So I will accept your friendly amendment to continue to the first meeting in February, not closing the public hearing so that we can hear more public comments. Madam Clerk, can we can we state that and take the world again, please?

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The motion is to continue this item to February 3, keeping the public hearing open and to also hear more public comment. I will start the vote over. Council member Brown.

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Council member Fife is excused. Council member hold on. Council member Gayle. Aye. Council member Houston.

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Council member Ramachandran. Aye. Council member Unger. Aye. Council member Wong. Aye. And chair Jenkins.

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Motion passes with a vote of seven ayes one excused five. This item will be continued to February 3. Going to item 6.2, conduct a public hearing and upon conclusion adopt a resolution confirming the report and notice of liens for delinquent real property transfer taxes with penalties, interest, and administrative and assessment charges and overruling any protests and objections related to the liens included in said report and author authorizing the recordation of liens and directing the notice of lien and assessment charges be turned over to the county tax collector. I'm sorry. I need a motion to open the public hearing.

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There was a motion by council member Gaio, second by council member Brown to open this public hearing. Council member Brown? Aye. Council member Fife is excused. Council member Gayle. Aye. Council member Houston. Aye. Council member Ramachandran. Aye. Council member Unger. Aye. Council member Wong? Aye. Chair Jenkins? Aye. Motion passes with a vote of seven ayes, one excused, five. And I've already read the item.

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To the presenter, will five minutes do?

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Suspicion.

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Okay. Good

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afternoon council members and members of the public. Through the chair, my name is Jose Segura, budget and management analyst in the finance department. This report presents a list of properties for which the ownership changed but the corresponding transfer tax was not recorded. This is the first of two public hearings relating to real property transfer tax that we will be bringing forward in this fiscal year. Today's public hearing follows prior administrative hearings in which property owners were offered an opportunity to dispute and resolve their case.

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Today, we are requesting your authorization to place a lien on 32 properties totaling approximately $314,000 to be included in the counties in Alameda County's fiscal year twenty twenty five twenty six property tax roll. Some of the cases may continue to be resolved prior to the placement of the liens and therefore certain properties may be removed from the list of from the list prior to submission to the County. We have staff available in here Room 2 today to help any property owners looking to resolve their case and I can I'm happy to answer any questions that may

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come up. Thank you for that. Let's go to public comment.

6:15:55 – 6:16:160

As I call your name, please approach the podium in any order. Please state your name for the record before beginning. If you're on Zoom, please raise your hand so I can easily identify you. Derek Barnes, miss Asada Olabala. Mister Barnes in the chamber. Moving to the Zoom speakers. Miss Asada, please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

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Yes. I have to say quickly that tree permits have been in the hands of your park and rep, advisory board. And if I was someone dealing with this issue, they do not have the legal responsibility to grant permits. They are an advisory board. So I would advise that young man to seek who is granting permits.

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On this item, it is not clear. Are you holding up any transaction completion, the seller and the buyer, until the property tax is paid. If the sale has gone through, how can you hold the seller responsible for the tax if they no longer are the owner of the property? That is not clear in the documentation, but you do say that both parties are responsible for the tax.

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Thank you Mrs. Sada. Seeing no more public comments, sir, I'll entertain a motion. Council Member Gayle. So move. Council member Unger. Alright. We got a motion and second.

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And is that motion to adopt the resolution and close the public hearing?

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On the motion moved by council member Gayle, seconded by council member Unger to adopt the resolution and close this public hearing. Council member Brown? Aye. Council member Fife is excused. Council member Gayle? Aye. Council member Houston? Aye. Council member Ramachandran? Aye. Council member Unger? Aye. Council member Wong? Aye. And Chair Jenkins?

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Motion passes with a vote of seven ayes, one excused, five. Moving to item eight, adopt a resolution amending and restating the council rules of procedure in their entirety entirety in order to assure council meetings run-in in an orderly and efficient manner, Allow for non consent items to be heard earlier in the meeting, create an additional presiding officer position to serve as presiding officer in the absence of the council president, and make non substantive technical edits. You have 27 speakers on this item.

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Good organizer. Council member Ramachandra.

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Got our, amendments that were passed out including the public? No. Okay. To no? Okay. To my staff, if we can have that passed out.

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Apologies. You

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wanna take a brief pause and go into another item? Alright, let's see. Just

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very briefly going over the amendments, including the ones that council member Houston had discussed publicly at the last meeting and count other councilmember I forgot who all had requested these. But, basically, we are deleting two things that we had proposed and going back to the status quo, what was referenced referenced as as bullet bullet point point four and five in the report. But the the core the the big one is pulling an item off consent. The status quo is all you need is a motion and a second. We proposed a majority.

6:20:08 – 6:20:506

We're going back to just needing a motion and a second, so there's no change. So all this references is that there's no change. There was a second amendment to slightly that that was cleanup suggested by the city attorney. It was a non substantive amendment, but it was to it it was regarding the procedure for counsel to take a the recommendation of a committee and forward it to rules and what would happen if that that vote was not unanimous, and so we changed it back to the status quo. So this reflect this amendment just reflects those two things that are going back to how they are now.

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And we've already presented made the presentation a few times so we will not go over that for time's sake but happy to answer questions about the other amendments.

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Is that a motion? Houston and Ramachandran has a second. You want to turn your mic on?

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No. I just passed over to council member

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Council member Fife? So council member Fife, you have a question before public comments? Oh. Okay. Here. I got

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this one.

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I got it.

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Okay. Alright. Let's go to public comment and then we'll come back to the council members.

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As I call your name, please approach the podium in any order. Please state your name for the record before beginning. If you're on Zoom, please raise your hand so I can easily identify you. Prescott chair Marcus Johnson, Kevin Dally, Jennifer Finley, Miss Asada Olabala, Jeff Levin, Charlotte Demsit Demish, Damian Scott, Sierra Warwick, Mark Wesley Dudley, David Boatwright, Halleks, Francois Long, Adam Wolf, Maggie Wolf, Jesse Rosemore, Ali, Jubilee, Martinez Brombok, mister Hazard, Blair Beekman, Reem, Emily Wheeler, and miss Asada Olavala.

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Mister Hazard?

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I passed out to you these documents. Okay? This matter, previously, when I was unceremoniously removed from this chamber because it ended in a tie, and you cannot suspend the rules to effectuate this outcome. Let me read to you what it says. Oakland's charter does not grant counsel authority to override the leg legal effect of a vote.

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Compel reconsideration after failure nullify the mayor's lawful decision not to break a tie. Conflict with state law, government code five four nine five four point two. A failed item cannot be acted upon again without re notice. Suspension rules cannot override state law. Once the mayor declined to break the tie, the motion failed as a matter of law. The

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Thank you, mister Hazard. Your time Thank you, mister Hazard. Unless someone wants to long day. You you Yes. Absolutely. You do have one minute. That was stated at the beginning of the meter. Thank you, Mr. Hasser. Does anyone want to give Mr. Hasser time? Do you have a question that you wanna ask miss Haser?

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Bottom line, if the mayor declines to break a tie, the

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item Wait second. Mister Hasard mister Hasard, please. I need to give everyone equal time. Council member Pfeiffer, you asking mister Hasard a question?

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I was asking mister Hasard a question about the tie breaking comment that you just made. So what Please proceed.

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Oh, sorry.

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Thank you. The council cannot suspend rules to resurrect it. Any attempt to do so violates the state open meeting laws and the open sunshine ordinance and resulting action is legally vulnerable and void. And I have case law to support everything I said. You got Olson v. Corey, 1983, San Diego Union v. City Council, 1983, Common Cause v Sterling 1981, Redondo Beach '19 and I'm prepared to file a writ. If you file if you don't pull this item, you cannot vote.

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Thank you, mister Hassard.

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Real clear.

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Thank you.

6:25:34 – 6:26:207

David Boatwright, district four. I agree with the the recommendation whether it's two or four points, whatever is being offered today but I have my own recommendation and that is y'all pass a rule that requires every member of this council to be present for every meeting unless they have a serious health or personal problem to deal with and no excuses because y'all schedule these meetings. You know when they're gonna be. People shouldn't be scheduling other things on the same day And especially on a meeting like this, you should be setting the whole day aside because these meetings go on forever. And there's no excuse for not doing that.

6:26:23 – 6:26:377

And people get up and leave in the meeting. I've been here since noon. I got up finally after six hours and had to go relieve myself. But there's no reason that y'all can't stay in this meeting or these meet

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Thank you.

6:26:45 – 6:27:29108

Hey. Mark Dudley, district three. I just wanna say that I was actually quite proud at the amount of people in our community that turned up last minute for a meeting that was clearly designed to suppress the amount of people who were able to make their voices heard. And as proud as I was of Oakland residents for doing that, I am disappointed in the people here who are not only allowed that to happen, but are trying to codify such shady business into the actual rules that you guys can follow. I don't understand why we are trying to push back public comment to make it so that less people and less democracy can be heard in these rooms. And for that, I am very disappointed and I suggest that everyone vote against this. So thank you.

6:27:294

Thank you for your comments.

6:27:33 – 6:27:5221

Hi, Jesse Rosemore, District 1. I would like to know when we can comment on the amendments that Flock gave Rowena Brown, Charlene Wong and Zach Unger that you all presented because we never got to see it before we did public comment. I know that Rowena Brown met with Flock. I know that Zach Unger met with Flock. Both of them told me this and these are my reps that are on the dais.

6:27:52 – 6:28:3521

How disappointing. Now at the same time, you want to redefine the rules to make the whole thing less democratic. If it starts at 03:30, less more business people and paid interest will be able to come to these meetings and less working people like me and that all the people who showed up to tell you not to sell us out to ICE today will have a harder time coming to these meetings. So thank you Carol Fye for everything you do. You're the only person on this dais meeting at the moment and thank you for trying to hold your colleagues to have a more democratic process with these meetings. I cannot believe you are the only one on the doing this for all of us and really speaking for us. I am ashamed of the rest of your colleagues tonight. It makes me so upset. They sold us out to ICE tonight and they want to codify.

6:28:364

Thank you for your comments.

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Juan Garram, District 4, I think. Yeah, I wanna reiterate what both Mr. Hazard and Jesse have been saying, like, this is just gonna come, like, make things worse. It's already very difficult for people to make their way here. I luckily can get out of work sometimes at three.

6:28:59 – 6:29:4322

To get here for 01:00 is outrageous, had to take half a day off work and you're just gonna like, Ken likes to pretend that he represents people because he goes around shooting some shitty YouTube video and the only reason he can get away with any legitimacy for that is because you do make it hard for actual residents of Oakland to come here and these changes will only make it harder and then we're gonna have to put up with more twenty two minute fucking weird videos from Ken. So, these changes are bad. They're under democratic. If this is supposed to be a democracy, you're supposed to listen to us. Yeah. Don't don't pass these. It is just a a play. Chris and his buddies from Piedmont have gone, but this and your, like, corruption bill that you passed earlier is just gonna help.

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Thank you for your comments. Thank you so much. Mister Beekman.

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Hi. Thank you. Blair Beekman. Thank you greatly that you or thank you very much that you very quite possibly tried to work towards good compromise with the block issue. I can't thank you enough if you have worked in those good terms.

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In this item, I'm hearing a lot of people from the public not happy with things. I don't know exactly what that is, but if this is somehow undercutting the public process part of it, good luck in better developing that. And we can be open to continuing to develop that. For rule 24, section two, it talks about the rules of the rules committee and how they can put things straight through to council. They can put things straight through to the council without going to committee first, like what we had to deal with with this flock thing.

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In the very small least, I hope you can say words like, if brought to counsel, it can be an action item or a information item.

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Thank you, mister Beakman. Seeing no more speakers in chamber, we will go to the Zoom users.

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Moving to the Zoom speakers, Emily Wheeler, you are first. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

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Hi. My name is Emily Wheeler. I'm a resident of District 2. I hope that you will not approve these changes. This council already flouts their own rules more than any of the others that I've experienced, and this will just make it harder for the public to participate. If you want shorter meetings, schedule controversial items, only one per meeting. Have meetings every week instead of every other week. Like, there are many things that you can do to make your meeting shorter. I agree these meetings are too long, but that like, making it harder for working people to participate is not the answer to that. And working people just cannot come to a meeting at 2PM.

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So, again, please reconsider these. This is incredibly undemocratic. This is not democracy. Democracy dies in darkness. This is what you're doing. Please vote no. Thank you. Have a great day.

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Thank you, miss Wheeler. Damian Scott, you are next.

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Thank you. Damian Scott with East Bay Housing Organizations. We strongly oppose this proposed changes to the city council rules and procedure and urge council members to vote no on this proposal again. This proposal make it more difficult for community members I work with to participate in city council meetings and have their voices heard. Moving non consent items we heard in the middle of the afternoon would make it so that the majority of working class Oaklanders can have their voices heard on topics of high public interest.

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We're deeply concerned by these proposed rule changes and the way in which this item has continued despite it failing to pass in previous council meetings. I applaud members of the council for voting against enacting these barriers to public participation. Thank you for ensuring the voices of Oaklanders are heard. I urge you to vote no again today. Thank you.

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Jeff Levin, you are next.

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Thank you. Jeff Levin with East Bay Housing Organizations. And echoing, the comments of my colleague, we urge you to strongly vote no on this. We see this as a way to limit participation, particularly by working people who cannot come to meetings in the middle of the afternoon. Your meetings start normally at 03:30 and often earlier, without taking time off of work. There are lots of ways to make the meetings more efficient and make it possible to get to important stuff earlier. This is not the right way. I will note that you are the only city council in Alameda County that starts their meetings at this time. Most are at 7PM. A couple are at six.

6:33:55 – 6:34:14136

We're also concerned that this is even here today. This item was defeated. There was a tie vote. It failed to pass. The mayor declined to cast a tie breaking vote, and it should not have been continued. And the only thing that should have happened would have been for someone on the prevailing side, the no votes, to introduce a motion to reconsider, and that did

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Jennifer Findlay, you are next. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments. Jennifer Findlay.

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Jennifer Findlay, District 2. Removing nonconsent items earlier is going to reduce public comment. That seems to be what you want. So I don't think I'm gonna say anything. It's gonna change your mind, but other people have been saying it.

6:34:50 – 6:35:2835

Why do we need to appoint a second in command other than the president who I believe is our senior council member, council member Gaio, is the reason because we spent the first several months of this year with him trying and wailing at running council meetings for endlessly. What are we doing? Seriously, why are you just fucking What are we doing? Please oppose this.

6:35:300

Thank you, miss Finley. Moving to miss Asada Olabala. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

6:35:37 – 6:36:0033

Can you hear me, madam chair? Yes. Thank you. I'm gonna ask the president, please intervene with the use of profanity and not allow it during the meeting. I'm asking that any use of rule 24 would automatically mean the item would go to, consent.

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I'm asking also that people, as been used in the past, will have the ability to sign up for items before they are called and with no time cutoff period. I'm also act asking that the mayor's voting process and the council's voting process become the same. The council votes yes, no, or abstain abstain meaning no. The mayor votes yes, no, or no vote at all. The voting process needs to be the same. All amendments need to be introduced before public comment with the document available for public review. You must notify the chair.

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There are a number of cards of people I see in Zoom. If you still wish to speak, please raise your hand. Maria Vargas, I don't have a card under your name. Did you submit a card under a different name? Thank you.

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Seeing no more hands raised.

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Council member Brown do you have a comment?

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Yes. I guess I had a clarifying question of the hand you know the amendments that you handed out. I was just trying to do like compare and contrast to the documents that were submitted for this item and so I'm asking Council President Jenkins or Council Member Ramachandran to just very high level clearly state the changes that you're making. Whether it is in addition to like state what the changes are in addition to what the handout is and what's also in our packet just so that everyone knows like exactly the all of the changes.

6:37:556

Thank you. And is our city attorney Michael Branson available? If you wanna just take this for clarity.

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Thank you.

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Good evening. This is Michael Branson, senior deputy city attorney. Through the chair to council member Brown. Is the question to go over the changes that are on the conditional page or do you want me to walk through all the council rules amendments?

6:38:33 – 6:39:05143

Yeah, I'm just trying to get some clarity around and maybe I missed it in what council member Ramachandran stated. So we have the printout that was just handed to us and then we have you know the already you know the changes that were outlined in the packet. So I guess maybe the clarifying question is based on the handout that was provided these amendments plus what's also in the packet is what we will be voted like basically voting on. Is that correct?

6:39:05 – 6:39:55147

To an extent. The changes that are on the page are removing three previously proposed changes. So, if I were to look at the legislation rule five the change appears on on page seven. There was previously a change proposed to allow for during standing committees for the committee chair to or to for the committee itself to make a vote by a majority vote to decide whether the item would be on consent or non consent. That proposal has been removed and it was reverting back to the way that it's currently written which is that the committee chair may designate such items as consent items only if the standing committee's recommendation was unanimous.

6:39:56 – 6:40:43147

So, the way that that should happen in practice is that the committee would take a vote on whether to move the item forward. If the vote was unanimous, then the clerk would look to the chair to determine whether the item would go on consent or non consent. That would be a recommendation that goes to rules and then rules would ultimately decide on the scheduling. The second change shown on this page is to rule seven. And this relates to when the council, the full council is considering their agenda and if there's a council member that wants to remove an item from the consent calendar, they there was a proposal to change that requirement to be by a majority vote.

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This would be removing that proposed change and reverting to how it currently operates which is that it is requires one council member to move to remove the item from consent and it to receive a second. The change to rule eight is the same. That provision related to moving an item off of consent calendar shows up in both rule seven and rule eight. So, those previously considered amendments are now being proposed to be removed by way of this additional sheet.

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Okay. Motion and a second. Comment? Council there's a motion a second already on the floor. Council member Pfeif.

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I I think this through the chair and I'm I'm gonna speak through the chair to our city attorney and to the members of the public. I'm not exactly sure how we are here today after this item has failed so spectacularly and with the last I I had to ask for the member of the public to clarify what happens after a mayor does not break a tie because it feels like this is exactly what the public is saying, like it's being rammed through. And there was no public speaker that spoke in favor of these changes. And so what I can say is I personally feel like my tenure on this council is being disrespected. I feel like the voice of the public is being disrespected.

6:42:24 – 6:43:091

I still stand firm on that the business should start when working people can be here during the day. We saw the the change in individuals with privilege versus people who don't necessarily have access to show up when it's earlier. So that is my primary area of concern and the way that this was dealt with each time it came before the body is so disrespectful. It's disrespectful to me, it's disrespectful to council member Gaio, it is disrespectful to the public. And the reason that I am being silenced on this council and my leadership in this community and on this council is the same thing that's happening to the community, which is to silence my voice.

6:43:09 – 6:43:391

I'm never asked to chair, I'm never asked to sit in, but now we're talking about having the committees choose their own council person to be the chair of the committee when we have a pro tem. If we don't like the pro tem, we should tell him and change him. So I I just feel like this failed twice, it should not be back in front of us in this form. And so it's clear that I'm going to vote no as I have each time that it's come before us, and the community should pay attention to what's happening here.

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Thank you Councilmember Fife. So so I've been a working class per I've been a working class person my entire career. I've been a bus driver in the first transit. I work with split shift. Didn't get off till six p. M. I could not participate in a city council meeting. I've been a package handler for UPS. Worked from five to nine, I could not participate in a city council meeting. I've worked for FedEx from 03:30 to about seven or eight.

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I could not participate in a city council meeting. Been an after school teacher, I could not participate in a city council meeting. Worked for the United Way, got off at five in San Francisco, could not participate in person in a city council meeting. Been office manager in San Francisco, could not participate in a city council meeting. So this argument that there is some magical time that working class people can get here is a challenge to me.

6:44:38 – 6:45:034

There is no magical time that somebody can get here. We want absolute participation when it comes to city council meetings. We have emails that come in. Council member Houston, although new, brought twenty two, thirty minutes of people participating in a city council meeting. There are e comments where people can participate in a city council meeting.

6:45:04 – 6:45:454

There are myriad of ways. So if we talk about when things fail and being brought back, Measure BB failed originally, that's a transportation measure, failed by the voters, it was brought back. It is something that absolutely gives us money for safe routes to school, pavement, all of those things. Voters brought it back again. It is not uncommon federal, state, local for things to be brought back. Things fail, they're brought back. Things fail, they're changed, they're brought back. This is something that has failed and has been brought back. And if it fails, it probably won't be brought back. So council member Houston and then roll call.

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I have voted no on it the first time after we made these changes. I'm a vote yes on it because there's some changes that would have not allowed us to do what we need to do by going to non consent and consent. And the mayor, it was it didn't fail in my opinion but my chief of staff says that it did. If you got a four and four vote and you got eight council members, what happens? The mayor breaks the tie. She decided not to break the tie and say, you guys handle it yourself, which we should. We should never have a tiebreaker with with the mayor that has to break a tie if we can't get it done. So I'm a vote yes on it because I agree.

6:46:244

Council member Fife.

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This I have to push back on on those statements council president Jenkins because I'm not just talking about a magical time where people can can participate. I'm talking about breaking our own rules of procedure to create new rules of procedure, and I'm also talking about listening to the number of speakers that we had on this item, none of whom called for these arguments and in fact opposed them. So I'm not saying that, yes, this is a better time, I'm talking about listening to the people who literally came here to speak to us. And so I I could go into detail about how that's one of the things I spoke of that that you responded to, but I listed a host of things including the pro tem, how we're advocating and lifting up certain leadership over others. I could talk about stifling public voice.

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There's a number of things that weren't responded to that I do not have answers to here. So you are choosing to have certain chairs. I I've I've been completely disrespected as a council member under certain leadership in this body. And it is clear to the public, so clear that people call me and and apologize to me for how I'm treated here. And so we're it looks like we're codifying behavior that benefits a minority of this council and service of a minority of this council in in disrespect to the larger community, disrespect to the eldest members of this council.

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I will leave it there. It feels like the the decisions on this piece of legislation have been already agreed to. So I would like to move the agenda. I'm very disappointed by this today.

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Thank you council member it's council member Gyle.

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Yes. I'm gonna be voting no. And it's very clear, we've been at this for many years and have developed policies and procedures, not from people that just got here. Wanna be creative. And so the bottom line is you have a council pro tem that we've had for years, and that role is very clear.

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I don't need to appoint another one to take your place. That's the role of the pro tem. I'm willing to step I know Rameshawn does wants his job. I'm willing to step down from it, but that pro tem should be able to fill in for your position based on the practices we've had for years. And and not, you know, trying to another example is this council appointed me to be work on the League of California cities from the beginning, but then I show up at a meeting and you're appointed to other people.

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And I I never got consulted. I think we gotta talk about respect, but most of all, we're here to serve the public. And for me, it's been a practice for a number of years that we get participation at the later time of the the day. And we need to respect that. And I know that that for most of you haven't been here before going through the process, but it took councils for years to create a process that, you know, we can entertain and support the community that elected us.

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And, but but if, you know, if you wanna be pro tem, Roshana, just let let the council know and they can vote me out. But I don't wanna be sitting over here going behind doors and trying to be creative and get around some of us sitting on the council. And, so I'm voting no for these recommendations.

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Okay. So a couple of things and then I'll take Vamachandra and then we'll go to a vote. So, a couple of things. When Nikki Bass was the chair, right, I chaired meetings, city council meetings. You go and look it up. I was not the pro tem. When it comes to as we're talking Mr. Azer, you can have a seat. Mister Azer, you can have a seat. Yeah.

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So when it when it comes to California cities, you called me beforehand, it was agendized. I did not make during January, I I wasn't here but when it comes to the external committees, wanna make sure there is a variety of people that can serve. Everybody serves on external committees with the exception of myself. Everybody Cal Cities, I did not appoint myself. Alright? National League of Cities and Cal Cities, you were on both of them. We need to spread the wealth and make sure that we have different council members that represent us. We have new council members and we want to ensure that everybody gets to represent the city when it comes to ACTC, when it comes to ABAG, when it comes to AIVA, when it comes to all these things. I'm not on any of it. Stop waste.

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Any of the stipend paying boards and commissions, I'm not on any of them. Right? I just wanna spread the love amongst all of the council members. Council member Ramachandra, then call the vote.

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Just very quickly clarifying. This legislation makes no changes to the role of pro tem. That is untouched. The only addition is an optional vice chair in committees, which the committees can vote on. There is no other leadership changes. I am not sure where that came from. That's all.

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Madam Clerk.

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On item eight moved by council member Houston, second by council member Ramachandran.

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As amended.

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With as amended with the amendments that were passed out. Council member Brown. Aye. Council member Fife. No. Council member Gayle. No. Council member Houston? Aye. Council member Ramachandran? Aye. Council member Unger? Aye. Council member Wong? No. And Chair Jenkins? Aye. Motion passes with a vote of five ayes, three nos. Five Gayle and Wong. We've already dispensed with item nine, so moving to item 10.

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Mister Haser please have a seat. Mister Haser please have a seat. That and passed. That and passed. Please have a seat. Please have a seat. Thank you. Moving

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to item 10, receive an information report from the city auditor on the audit recommendation follow-up report as 06/30/2025. There are 22 speakers on this item.

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Popular manner. How much time do you need?

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Less than ten minutes.

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Seven minutes. Ten minutes.

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We'll how far I could go. Good evening council members, city staff, members of the public. Michael C. Houston, the city auditor. I'm here to present our semi annual audit recommendation follow-up report on the status of open audit recommendations.

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Today is 12/16/2025, but this report covers status updates as of 06/30/2025. So the mission of the office of the city auditor is to advocate good city government for all Oaklanders by independently and objectively assessing city programs and services. Making recommendations to approve them and publicly reporting the results. And we commit to conducting audits of services and programs of the greatest impact to the community. And within those audits, we make evidence based recommendations that are constructive and feasible.

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All toward improving city services. To retain our independence, we are completely separate from the city's day to day operations and rely on the city administration to implement audit recommendations. The passage of measure x in 2022 amended the city charter and codified numerous governance reforms including a requirement for my office to follow-up on the status of audit recommendations. This audit recommendation follow-up report was published on September 30. It is our fourth semi annual report which covers open recommendations from the previous audit recommendation follow-up reports, plus the newly added audit recommendations since then.

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This audit recommendation follow-up report summarizes the statuses of two eighty eight unique audit recommendations across 45 different audits issued between 2014 and 06/30/2025. The audit recommendation follow-up cycle allows the city administrator, the city council, and the public to see progress made in implementing audit recommendations twice per year for the periods ending June 30 and December 31. This particular audit recommendation follow-up report does not contain any new recommendations since our last audit recommendation follow-up cycle for the semi annual period through 12/31/2024, because we didn't issue audits with recommendations during that time. But since 12/31/2024, 44 existing recommendations have changed status from implemented to partially implemented, or not implemented to partially implemented, or not implemented to implemented, or from partially implemented to implemented. So the number of audit recommendations that have changed status represents a significant improvement from the last cycle.

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We are grateful to the city administrator who about a year ago jointly signed an administrative instruction, AI seven zero one, which outlines the semi annual audit recommendation follow-up process and provides prescriptive guidance for department staff in in providing status updates for audit recommendations. Some recommendations take time to implement, especially if they rely on significant city investment or are subject to labor negotiations. And the exhibit on the slide shows status of audit recommendations by the year they were made. While the number of recommendations issued in a year relates to the number and scope of audits issued, there is a general trend. As time goes by, recommendations get closer to implementation.

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Implementing audit recommendations often takes significant time. Of the 288 audit recommendations made since 2014, 196 or 68% have been implemented or closed. 92 recommendations or 32% are considered partially implemented or not implemented. Departments implemented 32 recommendations. There are some examples of implemented recommendations from this cycle.

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For example, the city has established access to homeless management information system, HMIS data, to better understand returns to homelessness and other performance metrics to show how the city and its contracted service providers are performing. And the city has incorporated performance targets on exits to positive destinations into the scope of work for service providers contracted to provide emergency shelters. The fire department's fire prevention borough has finalized a quality assurance policy for its inspections to provide for weekly supervisory reviews, and that's from audit of fire prevention in 2020. A 126 recommendations remain open as of 06/30/2025. At least 10 relate to the consolidated fiscal policy.

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These include updates pertaining to citywide policy on grants management, maintenance of effort thresholds, and reserve policies. 13 open recommendations remain open from the 2019 audit of the Oakland Police Department's overtime intended to improve overtime planning, management, and tracking, and limiting the use of overtime by individual employees and the department as a whole. The finance department continues to work toward updated citywide administrative instructions on payroll and cash handling. Most audit recommendations are just to multiple departments open. Most open audit recommendations are adjusted to multiple departments or the city administrator's office.

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Again, audit recommendations seek to improve government services. While single recommendation may have multiple benefits, we've categorized each recommendation into primary intended benefit. Most of the recommendations have focused on improving efficiency effectiveness of services. But we also have recommendations aimed to improving compliance with laws and regulations, transparency and accountability, safeguarding public resources and providing monetary benefits. We also have recommendations that promote equitable access to or distribution of city services and resources.

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So the details of the recommendations may be found in the appendices of the report, which is attached to the packet, as well as the statuses of recommendations by audit report. So, I would like to thank the staff from the city departments that provided us with information and supporting documentation for this report. We recognize that many of these recommendations will take time to accomplish and we appreciate the city administration's efforts towards implementation. And thank you to our ARFU, audit recommendation follow-up champions, whether they be members of the city council or members of the public who raise awareness of our audits and the audit recommendations. The city auditor, we provide critical oversight role to the city, but we make recommendations and cannot force implementation.

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While the city council does not have administrative authority, it has a more direct role in implementing policy and making budget decisions that can effectively implement our recommendations. Lastly, my office is on a continual continuous quest to bring more attention to and engagement on audit recommendations. We encourage folks to stay connected with us and follow our work by subscribing to our newsletter, following us on our social media platforms, and contacting us by phone, by email, we're paying us a visit on the 4th Floor at City Hall. And I'm available to answer any questions.

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Thank you, mister auditor. Can I get one of those hoodies in a size large?

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See we could we could do.

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Okay. Any questions from the council? Council member Houston is that for your cousin?

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No, no. How you doing through the chair? Thank you for having a meeting with me. I saw 17 have not been implemented. I thought that was a different number or did you give me a percentage? Since you said 2,014 or a little bit before, how many of the recommendations have not been implemented?

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So we had council member Houston, 288. So this report summarizes the status of 288 recommendations that have been made from 2014 through 06/30/2025. And that represents 45 performance audits. 175 of those have been implemented.

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Have been?

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Yes, have been.

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Okay. Right? Cool. Thank you.

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Council member Cahill.

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Yes. Thank you. And and again, I really appreciated sit sitting with you for a while going over this report, getting from your staff and so forth. And and I'm very clear, in terms of the recommendations, the timelines that we're we have established. And it is an informational report. And I'll make a motion to receive the informational report from the city auditor.

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Council member Fife.

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Second. Second.

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So there's a motion and a second. Seeing no more comments from the council members, let's go to public speaker.

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As I call your name, please approach the podium in any order. Please state your name before beginning. If you are on Zoom, will be taken immediately after the people in chambers. Please raise your hand so I can easily identify you if you still wish to speak. Karonica Adoja, Liam Donaldson, Lina Ganem, Mimi Damasu, Tariq Mohammed, Patrick Miller, Maria Vargas, Robert Patton, Miguel Barajas, Atiyah or Agia White, Tamika Ridley, Griselda Almanza, Adriana Martinez, Carmen Beltran, Mercedes Del Torre, Vivian Thomas, Issei Talib, Maktar Mohammed, Andre Isler, Carmen Alvarez, Blair Beekman, in any order, please.

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And again, please state your name before you begin.

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Hi city clerk, Carmen Alvarez. I'm sending my time to Lina Ganem and we have two people online, Liam Donaldson and Karonica Pujo who will be put, wait, last name? Adoja, I always mix her last name. Adoja who is also sitting. So it's three people. Liam, Karonica and I will seat it to Lina.

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Okay, I see is Karonica in the chambers? I don't see her on Zoom. I see Liam.

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She should be

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Liam. Are She's on you ceding your time?

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I cede my time Galena, thank you.

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Thank you. Veronica, I don't see you in the in the Zoom queue. So right now you have three minutes.

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Hello. My name is Tamika Ridley, and I'm here with my 10 year

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son, Jacob. We are Oakland residents in District 7. I have been shopping at my corner store called Jalisco where Saba Grocers has the Fresh 5X program. For every EBT dollar I spend on buying produce, it gives me $5 to buy more produce. Excuse

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Can you finish reading this?

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Can a staffer go get her some water please? Any any staffer?

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Where were you at? Right here. Okay.

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Continuing for Tamika. Thanks. Fresh five x has been a blessing because it helps me stretch my EBT money to make it to the end of the month. My son and I are eating healthier plus I feel good about teaching my son to eat healthier and creating good habits for the rest of our lives. My neighbors, whether they have EBT or not, they also benefit from having access to produce near the near home.

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The Fresh Five X program makes it convenient and affordable for me to walk just fifteen minutes to Jalisco, buy produce, and my son and I feel welcome at that store. Thank you for supporting Saba Grocers and their virtual food cart program called Fresh five x. We appreciate you keeping your commitment to food security for our residents. Thank you.

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Hello, my name is Aisa Talib and I'm a co owner at Jalisco Market in District 7 located on Nevada and Eads. I'm here to thank you for supporting Sabah and the virtual card program, Fresh five x. My store has been transformed since this program started. More families come and shop with us. Our variety of produce has expanded from 15 to over 40.

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Kids are asking their parents for fruits and fruit cups and moving away from chips and soda. We are very proud to partner with several grocers to bring produce at accessible prices to our surrounding neighborhood. Fresh five x in my store supports not only those with EBT, but those without EBT because they all have access to fresh produce at their local store. It has also created jobs in our store to keep our produce well stacked. Thank you council members for your partnership with separate grocers and small business to create a healthier Oakland. Thank you.

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She she actually said she tried she she's on the Zoom. She tried to say And the the voice is not coming through.

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I don't don't see a Veronica on here at all unless she's under a different name.

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She's under a different name. She doesn't have a name on the zoom.

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There's no one with this Veronica's name or C name with their hand raised.

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Okay, well I guess I'll just speak for three minutes. She said her hand is raised right now. Miss C. Butterfly, probably a butterfly photo.

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Hi. Can you hear me?

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Yes. I'm sorry. Yes. This is me, Karonika, with miss C. I'm so sorry. Yes. I'm ceding my time to Lolina, please. My name is Karonika. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Hello everyone. Is my timer started? Where is it? Okay. I'm Lina Vaneem and I'm the executive director of Saba Grocers.

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I'm also a District 2 resident. We understand that agenda item 10 is not about SABA's audit, but we wanted to take the opportunity today to clear the facts in public and clear the air and hopefully turn the page on the past few years that we have been, so that we can establish a stronger working relationship with the city in 2026 and beyond because we care about Oakland deeply and we all share the same goal of making it better. There's been some unsubstantiated claims regarding our financial integrity at city council in recent in recent meetings and we're here to clear the facts. We've brought a number of speakers today. They unfortunately had to leave but to speak on this matter from Saba's leadership, We still have our attorney on the line that will speak in about this later and our residents and store owners.

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But with that, I do wanna start by thanking the city auditor for the thorough and detailed work that's been put into developing this audit. I also wanna make it clear to the public that this is not an audit of SABA grocers, this is an audit of the city of Oakland. It's an audit of the city of Oakland's processes and procedures administering funds to grantees. We were told that SABA was selected for this audit because of anonymous whistleblower complaints and that nothing from this audit provided support to these claims that would make the city believe there were any concerns with SABA. We wanna make sure these facts are clear to the council and the record, the public record reflects this fact because the public discourse at city hall has not been reflective of these two important pieces of this audit, and it's been impacting our organization.

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Even though the audit found nothing inappropriate at SABA, we still learned a lot as an organization and we implemented proactively enhancements to our programs and systems. To be clear, we care deeply about our own community here in Oakland that we serve and we believe our work provides an incredibly valuable service to the city. There's no reason to suggest that we behaved irresponsibly with the funds that we received. In fact, we work hard to ensure as much as possible goes back to supporting the community we represent. Over the past five years, we our impact has been significant.

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We've generated over a million and a half million $0.2 of local economic stimulus for the city and now we have the infrastructure to expand to 50 more stores beyond the dozen stores that we currently serve. But the past few years have been very difficult for us to navigate as a growing, small and young organization from Oakland serving Oakland and that is particularly big in part due to the public discourse at city council and its commissions regarding this audit, and the fact that there has been substantial grants promised to us that did not arrive, which created a serious legal dispute with the city that we hope has been resolved. We appreciate that the concerns from the whistleblowers and the audits were worth looking into because the city should be careful about the organizations it partners with. But we hope we hope that we can now move forward past these concerns and establish a more productive relationship with the city. And with that, we're we're really asking the city, inviting the city to be a better partner for us moving forward.

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We're happy to turn the page on the legal dispute and leave concerns in the past, these concerns in the past so we can move forward rather than look backwards and focus our work on serving the Oakland residents and store owners that really need our services. That's it for for my talking points.

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Hello my name is Griselda Almanza. I am a resident of Oakland and I live in District 3. I participate in the program Fresh 5x where I use my EBT and for every dollar that I utilize in fruits and vegetables, I receive a match of $5 so that I can buy more fruits and vegetables. This has been very helpful for me, for my family, and it has helped me to stretch my budget. I just really wanna say thank you to all the council members for supporting this program.

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Salary and money today doesn't stretch very well and salaries are, you know, people are not earning enough. So I wanna just tell you thank you for having and supporting this program on behalf of, for me and for my family and for other families here in Oakland. I hope you continue working to have programs like this in our communities. Thank you. Yes. She wants to go part by part. Is that okay?

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Please. Okay. You're gonna have two minutes so you have to Yeah.

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We'll finish it up. Yes.

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Hi. My name is Carmen Beltran and I am a resident here of Oakland and I live in District 5. I wanna say thank you for supporting programs with Saba, especially this program Fresh 5X so that it supports the betterment and the health of the family and supports the community here in Oakland.

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wanna say my deep gratitude to all the council members here for this program.

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You could finish that last part if you want. Yeah, you can translate the last part.

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The last part that she talked about is she hopes, she is asking for the council, for this council to consider those that fall below the table or fall below that are under that there is a need. And many times these folks are the ones that are not able to get support, that are not able to qualify for programs, to not forget those communities that are under the radar and that she hopes and continues to be hopeful that you will continue to consider and keep those communities in mind. Thank you.

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Thank you. Mister Beekman? Are you speaking on this, mister Beekman?

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Hi. Thank you. The other people may wanna try to

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again. I wanted to thank yourselves for this item, Blair Beakman. Audit reports are really important. This particular one, it offers auditing from 2014 till now. There's just a lot of really interesting items on here to review and consider, and that can be talked about here in the public process.

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It's a nice review of Oakland items and projects, and so thank you for it. Thank you for your efforts. I wanted to mention that with your flock issues that it it's up to the auditing department here to be doing the audits, it sounds like. In San Diego, where I'm currently living, they the police do the auditing and then give those reports to city council. A real sincere good luck that the procurement process for the upcoming flock things are really they will really take place and happen and we really work on it in the next few years and it's not just a pinky

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Thank you, mister Biegmann. Moving to the Zoom speakers, Maria Vargas, you are first. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

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May I attempt it? I wasn't paying attention but kinda get the gist of it. My name is Maria Vargas. I am a resident of Oakland. I live in District 7. I want to say thank you for supporting this program, Fresh five x, that helps low income and for helping and supporting Saba and the Fresh five x program. With this program, I am able to get produce, fresh fruits and vegetables near my home. And I wanna say thank you on behalf of myself and my family and on behalf of District 7 for having and supporting programs like this, like Fresh Five X, please keep doing that. Thank you.

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Thank you. Going to Rajni Mandal. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

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Rajni Mandal, District 4. I want to address both the proposed transfer of internal affairs to CPRa CPRA and how the audit report describes CPRa's readiness. The audit lists multiple core recommendations as partially implemented, but the auditor's own status updates state that CIPRA does not yet have a completed manual or adopted written policies for investigations, intake, timelines, training or quality review. Without written policies, these items cannot be partially implemented. As written, the audit overstates progress and is therefore inaccurate.

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This matters because CPR is now being considered for expanded investigative authority. Without a formal policy framework in place, CIPRA is not ready to absorb IAB investigations. Without accurate reporting, counsel cannot responsibly determine whether CIPRA is ready to take on these expanded oversight responsibilities. Thank you.

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Miss Asada, you're next. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

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Thank you, madam clerk. There were several reporting of non implemented audits. The race and equity audit, not implemented. Not implemented or partially implemented were audits on economic benefits, police overtime, pay equity, Saba grocery. I don't know why they're talking about all of this stuff going on because they have not recommendations not not implemented.

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The library partial tax and the homeless support not implemented. So nobody's asked any questions about these major areas having either partial not implemented or no. No implementation at all, particularly with race and equity. Y'all talk a lot about your sanctuary city, but you don't have no conversation on what's going on with race and equity in this city.

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Thank you, miss Olabala. Patrick Miller, you are next. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

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Yes. Can you hear me?

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First, I'll just echo what everyone else has said as far as how the city audit was of the city's processes, not Saba's, and that it there appears to be no basis to suspect SABA of any wrongdoing from this audit or elsewhere. And for what it's worth, my experience with SABA has also led me to believe they're a wonderful organization that really does provide a valuable service. I was engaged by Saba to address their legal dispute with the city over certain grant funds. And from the outset, I've been focused on trying to resolve the dispute and reach a settlement so that you can all move past this because I'm very sadly aware nobody really likes to deal with lawyers. And I wanted to say that the city representatives I've been working with have been excellent and professional partners in trying to resolve this dispute.

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I'm happy we were able to reach an agreement that was reasonable for all parties and avoid a painful litigation process. So I hope you can all now move on and hopefully work together since you all genuinely wanna make the city's residents healthier and happier.

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Adriana Martinez, you're next. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

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Hello. My name is Adriana Martinez. I'm a resident of District 7, and I wanna speak on behalf of SABA initiative. It's a very good program. It's it's a supplement of the income of low income people like myself that have chronic illnesses, and we need healthy food in order to stay alive, basically, because, other than that, you know, we can't afford healthy food like people in other parts of Oakland that make more money than us and have a better quality of life than we do.

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So, please, reconsider the audit of SABA initiative, because that would really hurt the health and the quality of life of lots of low income people like me who depend on, these supplements in order to get have an alternative to healthy foods in our diet. Thank you.

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Vivian Thomas, you are next. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

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Okay. Vivian Thomas. Hello, my name is Vivian Thomas. I live in District 3, I believe she said. And I am calling because I am a participant of Fresh five x.

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I buy fruits and vegetables with this program in my nearby store, Choppers. And I am able to get lots of veggies and lots of fruits because I cook for my family every single day. And so this program helps me be able to cook for my family healthy meals. Thank you so much for continuing with this program. Thank you so much for continuing to partner with Saba and this virtual CART program called Fresh 5x where I'm able to feed my family healthy food and prepare food for them on a daily basis. Thank you.

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Thank you so much. Moving to your last Zoom speaker, Maktar Mohammed. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

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Good evening, everyone. My name is Moktar Mohamed, and I am one of the owners of Shoppers Food Market, which is a family owned corner store in District 3. Our partnership with Sabah Grocers, initiative has made it very possible for us to add, produce at affordable price for our community. There are lots of families and elderly who have benefited from who have been benefiting from this program, and they have been able to walk to our store and have access to fresh produce. We have heard from a lot of them that they health their health have been improved due to being able to buy and eat fresh fruits and vegetables.

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We have increased the variety of produce that our community need. So thank you so much, for supporting programs like this and we really appreciate it and please continue with it.

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Does that conclude public speakers? It seems like we have a motion from council member Gayo. Second from council member Unger. Alright. Thank you mister auditor.

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On item 10 moved by council member Gayle, seconded by council member Unger to receive and file this report. Council member Brown? Aye. Council member Fife?

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I I asked for to be recognized for the auditor to answer a question about something that I emailed him.

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No worries. My apologies. It's fine. Mister Auditor?

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Yes. Through the chair to auditor Houston. I sent correspondence and I just wanted to give you an opportunity to state that on the record. There are two things. I passed legislation in November requesting information to come back to the body once ballot measure audits were initiated for this the city administrator to ensure that our city departments knew about it, and so I wanted to find out where we are with that.

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And then there there was also it was brought to my attention that you did a podcast about implementation, talking about implementation in the council's lack of or potential lack of support for implementing audit requirements, and I wanted to find out if that had any impact on your ability to make sure that you were following up with your requirements and how the council can be more supportive so that you have what you need to ensure that what the voters passed are actually implemented through the mandatory requirements. I does that make sense? That was two questions.

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Yeah. Council member Fife. Yes. I the first part of your question I'm I'm clear on. So we made a recommendation during our 2000 well, in our 2024 audit of the library parcel tax.

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There were a recommendation that arose from a finding that the city had not exempted certain groups from the parcel text that they should have been exempted from. And that was an audit finding. The recommendation was for the city administration to implement a procedure such that after something gets passed, the effect that the departments are informed and like there's a prescriptive guidance for them to get ready for the legislation. So that it doesn't happen again. We haven't received an update from that.

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We never received a response to those recommendations nor did we receive an update. However, you were kind of an audit recommendation follow-up champion in that respect because the resolution that you brought forward and I believe was unanimously passed by the city council would satisfy that recommendation. I don't know. I don't I'm not aware of it being implemented. So I know the resolution was passed.

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I don't think that the resolution was to for the city administration to develop and yeah. Develop and fully implement an administrative instruction for that purpose. Right? To deal with ballot measures and it's to my knowledge it has been implemented.

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Okay. I'll follow-up with you city administrator Johnson on that. And then the second part of the question, and forgive me because this was brought to me second hand, but I was informed that there were comments in a podcast that somehow the city council is not or or may be impacting your ability to ensure implementation on your mandatory requirements because of our control of the budget. And so I wanted to get clear if just clarity on on that perspective.

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I don't I don't think that's I I don't recall ever saying anything like that. I think what I do recall saying is the city auditor's office has these required we have roles and responsibilities including mandated audits. There's 11 or 12 of them and we don't have sufficient staffing to fulfill those mandates.

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Just so I'm clear to you and the city, all of our residents, I believe that you should have all of the resources that you need in order to facilitate the mandated requirements of your office to make sure we're in alignment with the ballot measures that we pass. So so there's no confusion, you know where I stand and I will work on that process during the budget. But I I wanted to be clear that there's nothing since I've been on the council that's intended to block you from doing your work or making sure that your audit recommendations are implemented.

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I appreciate that.

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Thank you.

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So we have a motion and a second shall we take the vote start the vote over.

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On item 10 moved by council member Gaillos, second by council member Unger to receive and file this report. Council member Brown? Aye. Council member Fife? Aye. Council member Gayo? Aye. Council member Houston?

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In my budget recommendations, I wanted you I stated for you to be fully funded. Aye.

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Council member Ramachandran. Aye. Council member Unger. Aye. Council member Wong. Aye. And chair Jenkins.

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Motion pass with a vote of eight ayes. Moving to item 11, adopt a resolution calling and giving notice for the holding of a

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Adopt a resolution calling and giving notice for holding of a special municipal election on 06/02/2026 for the purpose of submitting to the voters and measure that would amend the city charter to, among other things, expand the eligibility for members of the police and fire retirement system system board and change the board meeting frequency from monthly to no less than quarterly, requesting consolidation of the special municipal election with a statewide direct primary election to be held in the city of Oakland on 06/02/2026, directing the city clerk to take any and all actions necessary under law to submit this measure to the voters at the June and making appropriate sequel findings. You do have one speaker on this item.

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Council member Unger, shall three minutes suffice? You can stay in your seat if you wanted to.

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Just wanna get this.

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Oh. Or do you need more time?

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K Top, do have the PFERS presentation or else I can oh, there you go. Alright, this is quick. This is a ballot measure. PFERS is a maybe I don't know what I'm doing here. That's possible. Could you advance the slide, please? There we go. PFERS is a closed end pension plan for police and firefighters who are no longer in the department. It was closed in 1976. There are only about 600 people left in the fund.

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My slide says that it's 90% funded. It's actually over 100% funded, but this is a group of folks who are fairly old. The average age in this program is 81 years old and they are not getting any younger. And so there is a board that makes decisions for PFERS that is made up of PFERS members. And because they are getting a little long in the tooth, we need to make some changes to make it easier for this board to meet.

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Those changes include adding members who are not part of the PFERS fund because we are soon going to reach a point where not everyone in the PFERS fund is available to meet. We are also changing the frequency with which they meet from monthly to no less than quarterly. As I stated, this fund is doing quite well. It has moved from a mostly equities position to a mostly bond position and there's not much management left for it. One interesting note about this is because this fund is doing so well, the taxes for the PFERS, known as the PFERS tax override, is going to be rolling off of everyone's property taxes.

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So if you have a $1,000,000 assessed value on your house, your property taxes went down by $750 two years ago and will go down by another $750 next year because this fund is doing so well and we no longer need to collect from it. So this is just a cleanup but because it's a charter change, it goes to the voters. We want to make it easier for this group of retirees to have effective meetings. That's it.

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Thank you council member. Thank you for taking up this item. It's definitely important and I appreciate it. We have one public speaker. Miss Asada.

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Miss Asada Olabala. Please unmute yourself and begin your

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comment.

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I think it's very unfair to try to make it seem like property taxes are going down even if it's $700. My sister pays over $7,000 in property taxes. So, don't make it seem like you you you are 52% of people's income are used on how are used to pay housing and, taxes property taxes. I don't understand, expanding the eligibility. I don't understand the frequency of meetings.

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I don't understand if you have seven members. It's not clear. You identify some people being eliminated. How much does it cost to put this item on the ballot? I know it's not for free. And is this an emergency or urgency at this time with our fiscal issues? Do we have to do this at this time?

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I'll entertain a motion from council member Unger to continue.

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Through the chair, to the council. The city charter requires that for certain types of ballot measures they have to be heard before the council two times. And those are charter amendments, certain tax increases, and bond measures. So this one will have to be heard by the council again before it's finally adopted.

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Alright. So

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you can continue it to a future meeting.

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We'll get the band back together.

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So this continues to the first meeting in January? Second from Brown.

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On item 11 moved by council member

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council member Fife.

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Yeah. I I just as a matter of practice, we do bring ballot measures to the rules committee, and they're typically heard not on consent. And I just wanted to make note that we had a ballot measure on consent today. So I I wanted to ask through the chair to our city I'm sorry, our parliamentarian, what is the practice moving forward?

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Through the chair to council member five, there's nothing in your rules that prohibit a a ballot measure from being heard on the consent calendar? As you may know, the rules committee determines the consent and nonconsent calendar.

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Thank you. I would just ask for my colleagues to have

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consistency in how we are proceeding for our own well-being and for the public's. Thank you. There was a motion just ask on for item my 11 moved by council member Unger, second by council member Brown to continue this item to the first meeting in January which will be January 6. Is that the desire to leave it on cons non consent? Yes. Council member Brown? Aye. Council member Fife? Aye. Council member Gayle is absent. Council member Houston? Aye. Council member Ramachandran? Aye. Council member Unger? Aye. Council member Wong? Aye. Chair Jenkins? Aye.

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Motion passes with a vote of seven ayes, one absent Gaia. Going to your final item on this agenda. Oh, second to last. Oh my goodness. Adopt a resolution authorizing city administrator to pay outstanding invoices to ABC security services for services rendered after the extended contract expiration date of 06/30/2025 and fiscal year twenty five to twenty six in the amount of $818,989.40 and extend the ABC contract for up to fifteen months to 09/30/2026 on a month to month basis for an amount not to exceed $6,750,000 for a total not to exceed contract amount of $35,380,000 and to ex to the extent necessary waiving the competitive request for proposals and qualifications process in the best interest of the city for sex excuse me, for such extension to allow continuity of services while staff conducts a new request for proposal for security services.

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You have four speakers on this item.

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Will four minutes suffice? Five minutes. Three? Okay. Three minutes.

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Good evening council president Jenkins and members of city council. My name is Craig Pawn. I'm the building services manager in public works facility services division. As you're aware, ABC Security Services Inc. Has been providing citywide security for the city for many years.

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Over the summer, staff completed a competitive procurement process and proposed an award to a new security vendor. Because the contract was ultimately not awarded, the city faced an immediate need to avoid a lapse in citywide security services and therefore, continued services with ABC Security on a month to month basis. This action is time sensitive and necessary to maintain continuous security service facilities and to address past due payments for critical services that ABC Security has already provided. Any delay in payment of these invoices could risk ceasing of security services and creating safety risks for staff and the public. Approval of this item would authorize a month to month extension of the current ABC security contract not to exceed fifteen months from which would be 07/01/2025 ending on 09/30/2026.

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Just for clarification, this takes into account six months that have already passed from July to current date and also considers the council summer break in 2026. This timeline enables the finance department to issue a request for proposal for citywide security services, evaluate submissions, conduct interviews, and return to counsel with the recommendation to award a multi year contract to the most qualified vendor. This month to month extension would end once a new contract is awarded or by the end of the authorized extension period, whichever occurs first. This approach balances the need for uninterrupted security services with the city's commitment to a competitive procurement process. That concludes my presentation.

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I'm available for questions.

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Thank you. Mr. City administrator, what's the soonest that we can get this back? I think this is an item that has been hovering with us. We wanna make sure that we get this right but we also want to make sure that this goes out to bid and hopefully we have a successful bid next time. So, what is the soonest that we can get this out?

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The chair, to members of the council. So, to your question around timeline, I did connect with our internal procurement procurement team and realistically on a conservative side it'll take about five and a half months or so to get through the full solicitation process. And of course we'll have to sort of reorganize the work, but that's the timeline that's been discussed recently, but also when this item came up previously, that was the timeline offered quite a few months ago when we were considering the most appropriate process to go through which essentially takes it out of the hands of the departments and leaves it with the professional procurement staff.

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And when you say out of five and a half six months for solicitation, that solicitation award solicitation and award. And to bring something back to counsel for consideration. And of

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course we have to follow our rules of procedure in the process.

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Okay. So just speaking for myself, the soonest this could come back with it being done right, the better. Council member Ramachandra.

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Thank you. I feel uncomfortable as I've expressed earlier with the fifteen months. Is it possible to well, I I would lie and I know that the estimated time is five and a half months and you want a little cushion, but just because of how much how long this is proceeded, I would like to offer a friendly amendment to having it be month to month only up to six months just to keep some pressure under to be able to have this done sooner. Is that is that possible? Would that would be my amendment if I'm to support this?

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Through the chair.

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So the extension has actually additional nine months. Six months, I'm not really at liberty to say because it would be through the finance department. I can't really speak and commit them to that. I think, you know, we could work through try to work through that.

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City administrator and then council member Ramachandra.

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I mean I was just acknowledging whatever the pleasure of the council is certainly we'll honor and work towards that timeline and I know we wanna move as quickly as possible. But I also wanna just be realistic with the sort of litany of solicitations that our internal staff are working through which are pretty high level items to include you know some of the items that are associated with many of our public works types of projects. Which is why I'm thinking six months would probably be reasonable for us to work backwards if that is what you know the pleasure of this body is and that has been communicated. So I wanna you know if that's the pleasure of this body then that's what what it is.

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Thank you then I'll make that friendly amendment.

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So you're making a motion?

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A motion to approve with an amendment to decrease the time of maximum one month to month extension to reduce it from fifteen months to six months.

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City administrator.

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Through the chair, our finance director Brad Johnson has a point of clarity.

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Thank you city of Missouri. Through the council president, I think given that the start time for this contract is actually a July 1 date, what you're asking for is a twelve month contract, which would be the six months that have elapsed for the first half of this year and then six months from now. So I think the appropriate number in that is 12 to get six months from now.

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You wanna redo your motion and state that? Okay. So council member Fife?

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Yes. This is council president Jenkins the second time. This item has been in front of me since I've been on council. I'm very confused about why we have to keep going out to bid. So I would like to know the cost of that process for going out to bid every time, and then we subsequently end up doing the same thing.

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We extend the contract of the existing security company. No shade on any company that we have or I'm not trying to prop up any company that we don't have. What I don't understand is why do we have to go back out to bid if we have a list of vendors who are responsive that can that can provide the services. It feels like this will cost us extra time and money when we have a list of qualified vendors that would, at least one or two that we could contract with. Can someone explain that to me?

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The cost of the going back out to bid and the precedent for doing going through that process versus going back to their our existing list?

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Through the chair, I don't have the cost going through the bid process. I mean, it's going through multiple departments and divisions, so I don't have that readily available. In the past, you know, we have done new RFPs to refresh the RFP because the bids have gone stale. So that was one of the main reasons, but you are correct that there are, you know, vendors out there that, you know, have bid in the past.

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Thank you for sharing that. I've never heard anyone say that even though it's always true that I'm correct.

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Alright, Dean.

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So yes, that was a substitute motion.

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Can you state the substitute motion?

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going through everybody. Madam Clerk, can you open up? Her too? Five. Uh-oh, it broke the system.

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My substitute motion is that instead of going back out to bid, which would take approximately fifteen months from what I understand, that we go back to the existing list of potential vendors that applied and were qualified and responsive bidders on this on this contract.

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Through the chair to to council member Fife and the council, the resolution before you as noticed authorizes a contract with ABC security and waives the competitive process for the extension. So can you clarify what your proposal is in relation to this reso?

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So in order to have continuity with our security contract, I'm I'm I'm okay with continuing this month to month contract, but if we have a list of responsive bidders, I know there are at least two from our most recent procurement process, then we maybe take thirty to sixty days to continue the month by month and then go back to the list and choose from amongst the responsive bidders to award a full time security contract. That is my substitute motion. Does that make sense? If if we're extending the contract then we don't need to continue with this

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So your motion is to pay the outstanding invoices, go thirty to sixty days and then go from the list of already qualified vendors that have already bidded on this. Is that correct?

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We could make it clean and just completely reject this this motion. I mean reject this agenda item altogether and but I think it doesn't make sense to go back out for an RFP process that will take almost a year and a half when we have responsive bidders that on a list that's not stale. It took maybe two three years for the previous list to get stale and I don't think we're there yet on the most recent

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procurement Are you removing your second motion and encouraging your council members to vote this down?

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I'm I'm oh say that again?

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Are you removing this motion? Are you removing the secondary motion and urging your council members to vote this down with the hopes that the department would come back with a list of already qualified bidders?

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That makes the most logical sense to me. I also want to do what is legal within the this this process.

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Well, and just say we still have to pay the outstanding invoices.

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Oh, I'm not saying that we should not pay our bill. That is not what I'm suggesting.

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We all pay the bill. Okay. So, this work I mean, I almost gave you the motion. Was your motion withdrawn? Was your motion withdrawn?

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Well, through the chair to the parliamentarian, you understand what I'm attempting to do, correct?

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Which is? Yeah, but I guess my concern is that the portion about the future or not going to an RFP or using contractors on an existing list is outside the scope of how this item is noticed. This item is noticed just for the ABC extension. So I I think I heard something you mean you can certainly amend this, make a motion to amend the reso to remove the additional month to month, the fifteen months of month to month contract.

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Up to fifteen months. Yes. That's before Amend that that part of the agenda item. I would need to understand then if we are within our jurisdiction as this body to bring back because if I say I want it to be three months instead of fifteen months, I would need to understand from the department whether or not that's even feasible for them to go back to the list. So I would need some clarity from the department first.

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Through the chair of council member Fife, what I will clarify is the fact that our procurement team within finance is not here largely because we're shifting our approach to make sure that the RP process goes through central procurement as opposed to being handled at the department level and the procurement team is not here. So you do have a previous solicitation that we went through and I'm sure there may be other vendors that may want to compete for this work and so this may present an opportunity for you know those folks that provided proposals previously to resubmit, but also any other vendors who may be interested in competing for this work can go through the full competitive process. And so I guess, you know, the the biggest piece for us is removing the responsibility from the department that have a list of other duties as assigned to include this RP process and leaving it with the professional procurement staff that do this every day. And I certainly hear your request with respect to those vendors that have submitted and I think they will be considered as a part of the process, but the procurement team is not here to really offer some feedback.

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So I don't wanna speak to them out of term. I certainly hear where you're trying to go in absence of that team. I apologize I just can't artfully answer that question.

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No, that's that's fine. I'm sure everybody wants to leave at this point. But I I guess the part because it's it's not noticed, the the only part that could be amendable in this particular agenda item is b, extend the contract for fifteen months. I don't think that's necessary but if we could but we we still need a time frame in there. How far are we behind on paying this this we're we're behind several months. Correct? 800 worth. $100,000 worth.

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Through the chair, it's it's two months and I think there is another invoice billing cycle that came through. So probably three months. But the the 800 the 800,000 and change is for representative of two months.

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Is it possible that we amend that section b of this item to potentially six months to give us time to hear back from this through the chair to the city administrator from the department that you said does this every day so that we can hold hold the second the first part, well, we have to pay the bills, but hold the part where I'm requesting us go back to the drawing board with the response of bidders when we come back to council after recess, after the winter recess.

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Through the chair, just so that through the chair, to council member Fife, just to understand, so are you requesting as opposed to the fifteen month, the six month, which gets us to I think that's where we sort of started with respect to the extension of time being twelve months because we're accounting what has already lapsed. But within I think what I'm hearing you say within that time frame, what you are requesting is feedback from the department to say, hey look, you have respondents that respond responded previously, is that stale or is it not? And if so, please tell me why. And if it is, okay, now we can move forward with the full solicitation process.

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You're feeling me. Yes. You're picking up what I'm putting back down. That's exactly what I'm saying.

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Yes, ma'am.

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Thank you.

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Yes, ma'am. Okay. Let's get to other council members.

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Alright. So you know I think we have really good staff in Oakland, professional staff and when we ask them to do an RFP, they do a good job of it. They follow the laws and they apply whatever standards we lay out in the legislation we send them and they do the work, they add up the points and they follow a dispassionate process without favoritism. And it's the core of an anti corrupt system to disperse public funds and I respect that process and I think it protects us. Otherwise, we're just making decisions on how we award tens of millions of dollars based on, like I don't know, vibes or something worse.

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And on the security process contract, we had a process and we had a winner. And I was fine with that process and I had no reason to wanna deviate from that winner. And somehow I was the only vote on that committee to accept the recommendation of the professional staff and give the win to the winner. And yet somehow that RFP got thrown out, don't ask me how, I don't know why. And I don't want to extend ABC's contract but we also can't go without a security contractor. So because we decided to sort of skate past this valid contract award, we find ourselves in this position now. So I'll vote yes for this item but we should not be here.

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Why is it on you again?

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Houston. Through the chair, how many qualified vendors were they?

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Through the chair, if I recall correctly, I believe there were five.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. I mean, this whole process has been very convoluted and because of that, I think we should respect staff's decision to go ahead with the new RFP because that the original RFP, there were community members and council members who had questions about that process. I don't know whether a new RFP, the process will change significantly, but at least public feedback has been heard. So I think that rather than council members playing favorites with what company they want on our own, let the staff make their do a from the scratch new RFP and come to us with the proposal taking into consideration what community members and council members have said about that process. And to be fair to everyone, I'm I'm I I support this RFP and I do believe I made a motion with a second to for this item.

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I don't know if no substitute motion was successfully made. Does that still stand?

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So you did make a motion. The second was Houston. Alright. So council member five has a substitute motion on the floor. If given the second, we will vote on the substitute motion first.

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Can someone restate the substitute because I do not understand.

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That'll work.

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Me or count I'm sorry, administer I just have to say before I think I need to consult with our city administrator, but I think it is extremely problematic that we are here again in what appears to be a disrespect of minority contractors. I don't know who those comments were were made towards about council members playing favorites, but what I have experienced on this council since I've been here is a by and large rejection of black contractors when they are being considered for work with the city of Oakland, which our disparity study proves. So I'm trying to understand why I am here again for the third time when we had a competitive bid process where a black contractor came in second every single time and we find a reason to go back to an RFP process. I don't know if he was I don't know what the details were. I've asked consistently what is the process so I can be clear, so I'm making the best decisions in my fiduciary with my fiduciary responsibility to the city.

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None of those questions have been answered. So when I am trying to find out objectively what the point scale is and how people get points and score in these processes, that part is clear, but when it comes subjective part of interviewing, then things go off the rails. I'm saying if we have responsive bidders, then let's go through the list of responsive bidders. I find it offensive to to to try to insinuate that any council members are playing favorites when we know public policy from the local to the federal level has had has been steeped in racist activity. I don't know that if that's happening here, but because questions have been have not been answered clearly, then we need to go back and look at the people who are responsive to find out why their bids were rejected.

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That is all I'm saying. I'm not saying to choose one company over another. I'm saying we got to do better particularly when it comes to dealing with how if there is bias in our process. We have good staff who play games all the time. Stop it.

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All I asked was what was substitute substitute motion? Motion?

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Council member Pfeiffer, can you restate the substitute motion?

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The motion is to accept paying our outstanding bills with this vendor in a time frame that allows us to go back to the existing list of responsive bidders to find out when the council is back back in session, who is eligible for this contract. I do not think we should extend a contract for fifteen months on a month to month basis when we have responsive bidders. I if if the parliamentarian wants to put that in more formal language, appreciate that. I I just think that we have vendors that have been responsive to this RFP process and can be examined to find out if we can choose from them or if we need to go out for a full process. If we have to do that, well I'm sorry that was a substitute motion.

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Extend the contract long enough to go back to our staff to review the existing list and only extend the contract as long as necessary to get feedback from our staff

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pay the and pay the outstanding invoices.

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Council member Wang.

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Yeah. Just to add because I think some several people have touched upon this and I was one of the council members that rejected the staff recommendation for allied security. Why can you just explain why is it that we need to go out to bid again because we had voted down that proposal. It was council member Gaye O, Houston, myself had voted it down. And so can you just walk us through why this is coming before us instead of say looking at the second or third or fourth vendors on that list?

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Through the chair, it's really to pay the outstanding invoices, right? And then for

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continuity. And then I think at the point right now is that again, it it the the RFP process was conducted in 2024, so it's over a year. And then additionally, as city minister Johnson had mentioned, that going to the finance department to put the procurement out is really the focus.

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So basically because the procurement is old, it's non viable or what is really the like what would be the are there risks to the city? I'm not really following.

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Council member. In speaking with the parliamentarian we shouldn't go too far into the old procurement. This item is about ABC and extension of a contract.

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Okay. Well I'll just say this that if we do move forward with the new contract the issues that I had with the procurement that was done the prior time was I had asked questions on the dais because I had just seen through my own research that the preferred vendor had so many wage and labor violations. It was actually shocking the number of controversies associated with that with the vendor that came out and so I just and when I asked to the staff around did we have that as a criteria in the RFP, it was not. And so I really think that not only just for this RFP but just in general especially when it's like this high of a dollar amount we need to vet for that just going forward. But this is part of like an ethical investment you know just approach right and so yeah.

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And then the other thing is I would say again given the high dollar amount I had asked for interview notes because that's when there was the divergence between Allied which was the selected vendor and the next one and

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I just think that again part of the transparency that we're owed to the public and to the council members is those interview notes, the rankings really beyond just a score at the end.

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Council member.

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Through the chair. Just wanna remind the council that what's noticed before you today is a proposed contract to ABC and so we wanna keep the comments germane to that item. Okay.

8:10:564

Okay, so there's a motion and second. There's a motion and second on the floor. And there's an alternative motion on the floor, a substitute motion on the floor.

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I have a question about what the substitute motion would mean. Would it mean that we are doing sort of like a mini RFP just with the people who passed the first round or what? I don't understand what it means.

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I'll defer to the maker of the substitute motion but again the potential RFP is not what's noticed before you today. So I think the the substitute motion relates to the second resolved clause on this resolution which currently reads that the council's authorizing the city manager to extend the ABC contract for fifteen months to to 12/30/2026. To council member Fife, how would you like to I I think you mentioned you were reducing the time but can you specify to what if it's not the fifteen months that's in the resolution currently?

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Again, I would need input from our our staff because my perspective on the amount of time necessary might differ from what our staff are saying. So without the staff here to respond, it's difficult for me to answer how long they would need for for this process. And and I do also want to add that minority participation in contracting is not a vibe. SLBE should not be a vibe and it was a passive aggressive comment to state that council members are playing favorites with the with the companies that they want to see get these contracts. I don't I don't care.

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I'm saying that we need to consider our processes so that it is fair and equitable and we have a history of not doing that. That is what I'm asking for in this moment.

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Does that does that definition or that explanation suffice for you? Got it. Okay. Council member Wang, then Wang, Hwang Chandra. So there's a so you're calling the vote?

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So council member has called so what what so the council member has called the vote. So there's not a second to council member Fife's motion. Shall we call the roll? Are you cool with calling the roll?

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There's a substitute motion on the floor if there's no sec it needs a second to be voted on by the council.

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Council member Wong, do you have something to say before we call the well?

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I I don't understand what the substitute motion is. Can it be clarified again? There is no No. We have to

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Okay. Let's call the public speakers.

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The substitute first.

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Moving to the public speakers for item 12, mister Hazard, miss Asada Olavala, Jennifer Finley.

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I told you what to do. You ignored it. So, yes, ABC, give them their money. They went into their own packets pockets. There are two bidders who have labor violations.

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There's another bidder who deals with the border patrol. There's another one that deals with the detention center, and we're a sanctuary city. The only viable entity which and that when I did the tracker, it's a b c. So I don't know what the problem is. Mister Unger want to go with Allied. They are clearly out of the question. They got a myriad of labor violation. Convicted on.

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Thank you, mister Hazard. Are there more public speakers?

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Moving to our Zoom speakers, miss Asada Olabala, Jennifer Finley, if you still wish to speak, please raise your hand. Go ahead, miss Asada.

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This is mismanagement. You have not had a contract for security since 06/30/2025. You also cannot spend $35,000,000, and there's been no no discussion on what the Pacific, duties and responsibility of security, no performance evaluation. The owner of the company is involved in a controversy due to her business ties with a major FBI public investigation. ABC security owner has been fined, in the past by the Open Public Ethics Commission for baking for making improper campaign contributions to officials who are in positions of vote to vote on contracts.

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The same owner has has had allegations of and potential legal issues regarding unfair labor practices, including unpaid wages and overtime. Nothing of this this person they don't deserve a contract.

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Thank you, miss Olavala. I do not see miss Finley with her hand raised.

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So there's a motion and a second. There's a second that's failed to receive a there's a substitute that's failed to receive a second. There's a call for a vote madam clerk. And are you clear with your amendment that you made? Madam Clerk, you clear with the amendment? Alright.

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On item 12, moved by council member moved by council member Ramachandra and seconded by council member Houston with the amendment to go month to month for twelve months which will include the past due six months and starting with the additional six months starting from today. Council member Brown? Aye. Council member Fife? No. Council member Gayle is absent. Council member Houston?

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Council member Ramachandran? Aye. Council member Unger. Aye. Council member Wong. Aye. And chair Jenkins.

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Abstain.

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Motion passes with a vote of five ayes, one absent, one no, and one abstention. Excuse me. Motion passes as amended. Going to item 13, adopt a resolution approving ongoing cooperative purchase agreements exceeding $250,000 for Oakland Public Works Bureau of Maintenance and Internal Services commodities and services contract as set forth in table one in an amount not to exceed $3,500,000 and adopting appropriate sequel findings. You have two speakers on this item.

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Shall one minute suffice? Three. Three? I mean, I just mean, we could be here all night. No. Wait a minute. When do we have to suspend the rules? 09:30? Yeah. Can you speed rush this? Or not speed rush this because we want everybody to get the information.

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Sure. I'm back. Last item, presenting approval of facility services division ongoing cooperative purchase agreements exceeding $250,000 for Oakland Public Works Bureau Maintenance Internal Services Facility Services Division. The approval of this resolution for ongoing cooperative purchase agreements exceeding $250,000 for commodities and services contracts in the amount of not to exceed total of $3,500,000 and adopting appropriate California Environmental Quality Act findings. Facility services is responsible for performing preventative maintenance of equipment, infrastructure, and building components and systems at over 300 city facilities and properties.

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Oakland Public Works commonly procures commodities and services through cooperative agreements, primarily to obtain lower prices and shorten the procurement process since the competitive solicitation process has already been completed by another governmental jurisdiction or public agency. This resolution is a contract amendment increasing the contract capacity value of active contracts. It will enable staff to quickly procure and conduct necessary and essential repairs and preventative maintenance on life safety equipment, infrastructure, building components, and systems. This will enable the city to be compliant with local, state, and federal codes and regulations. Without this approval without the approval of this resolution, the city is subject to significant liability and may be forced to shut down and or close non compliant facilities and properties used by the city staff and public.

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Thank you. Is that a motion on council member Munger? Is that a motion to approve? Houston second. Public speakers.

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Miss Asada Olabala and mark Marcus Johnson.

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I just wanna look at, adopting appropriate California Environmental Quality Act findings. I don't think this city is serious about, Environmental Quality Act issues, particularly when you're looking at this issue of the army base former army base being used for Costco. And when you have hazardous waste, contaminated soil, and you're willing to look look away from that issue, you talk about no no coal in Oakland and, what's happening at McClemans, miss Fife. You haven't dealt with any of our issues related to the contamination of the soil over there and the air quality and the lead in the water. I'll speak about that at open forum, but we're not getting any support, related to the the California Environmental Quality Act at McCloud.

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They are trying to get a

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Thank you, miss Olabala. Marcus Johnson, if you wish to speak, please raise your hand otherwise at this time all names have been called.

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Madam Clerk please call the well.

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There was a motion by council member Unger seconded by council member Houston to approve this item. Council member Brown. Aye. Council member Fife. Aye. Council member Gayle is absent. Council member Houston.

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Council member Ramachandran. Aye. Council member Unger. Aye. Council member Wong. Aye. Chair Jenkins.

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Motion passes with a vote of seven ayes one absent Gaio. Moving to council member announcement.

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Any announcements? Seeing none. Oh council member Faif. No, didn't see

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it. Tomorrow wait. What day is it? No. Thursday evening in this council chambers, there will be a conversation to dispel some of what the public speaker just said about the Costco ENA to get an ENA. So I encourage everyone to come to this body, this area, not this body, but the council chambers this Thursday 6PM to ask questions and get clarity and to address some of the misconceptions around what's happening at the former Oakland Army base.

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And after you guys go there, come by Scott's district six holiday party, but make sure you go by City Hall first and hear about Costco and dispel the myths, but district six holiday party, Scotts six to 9PM. Scotts. Scotts seafood. Alright.

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Moving to open forum, if you're in the chambers please approach the podium in any order. If you're on Zoom and you wish to speak, please raise your hand so I can easily identify you. Asada Olabala, Jennifer Finley, Kevin Dally, Marcus Johnson, Jesse Rosemore, mister Hazard, Stephanie Tran, John Edwin Scott, Jessica Chin, Ryan James Closs Clossmore store Clossmutter.

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A public body cannot evade statutory or constitutional requirements by procedural devices. Acts taken in excess of authority are void, not merely voidable after suspending rules due to negate the legal effect of a tie vote is an evasion of governmental law governing law, not permissible procedures. So you could go to cleanoakland.com and the documents I read earlier to this body that violated item agenda item eight, Rama Chandra, Unger, Wong, and you, mister president, you're out of line. It's illegal, and I will do the appropriate litigation to bring this back to you. And thank you, council member Fife and Gyle, for the position that you took because this this is very clear.

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Thank you, mister Hazard. Moving to the Zoom speakers. Miss Asada, you are first. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments.

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Currently, this the OUSD district is dealing with antiblackness. In other words, they're at Fremont High School, Hispanic students have been using the n word, harassing black students, and it's also been happening with teachers to the point that they've called in a special intervening process to deal with the issue. We're dealing with anti blasphemy at McClyman's High School. McClyman's fife, you've done nothing to make sure that we get something done with that school renovation. It was supposed to start in June.

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Nothing has happened. They've moved those kids over to half of the building. We had to rent a scoreboard. The field is contaminated with hap hazardous soil, and it's the same thing at the army base. I'm not coming in no meeting. I know it's contaminated over there, but you have done nothing to help us get something done at McClellan's, that predominantly black school. And I don't want you to come there. We don't need you, but I'm letting you

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Marcus Johnson, you're next.

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Thank you. My name is Marcus Johnson, and I wanna, thank and appreciate city council and staff for all the work that you've done this year and wish you a happy holidays, and I'll see you next year.

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Thank you, mister Johnson. Moving to Stephanie Tran. Please unmute yourself and begin your call I'm sorry. Your comments.

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I just wanna express how upset frustrated our small business community is about the decision to make Sunday parking metered, especially because many of our businesses found out through social media instead of through direct outreach. Sunday is one of the few days that truly supports our small businesses. It's when families come out, when cultural districts are active, and when merchants rely on foot traffic to survive. Changing parking on this day without engaging with the businesses that are directly impact feels dismissive and out of touch. There is no meaningful outreach, no data shared, no opportunity for businesses to weigh in on this decision.

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This raises serious concerns about transparency and process. How many how much of the revenue are we expecting? Will any of the revenues sit the city intends to make go into supporting businesses? And which stakeholders were consulted, if any? If the city is serious about supporting small businesses, then decisions like this should not happen without businesses at the table. We already have so few days that truly work in our favor. Sunday should remain a day to support businesses, not a barrier that drive.

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Thank you for your comments Ms. Tran that was the last speaker for open forum.

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I believe council member Houston had a missed announcement.

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I just wouldn't agree with her. Counselor. Not that Demeter's at Sunday Counselor

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Member that's not a gymnast. I don't wanna violate the Okay. Bowen

8:29:0012

Alright. Thank you.

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I'm sure you'll check-in with administration. Alright. This session is over. See you guys next year.

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