Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

call the North Plain Planning Commission for uh May the 11th to order at 6 o'clock. The 13th, excuse me, 13. That's what it says. 13 of the Ice to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and of

Thank you. Chair Key here. Vice Chair Levante here. Commissioner H here. Commissioner Kodell here. Commissioner Parra here. Commissioner Nanamp here. Commissioner Miller is excused this evening. And your ex official councelor Mark DeForch

here. All right. Thank you. Item number four is public comments. Is there anyone on Zoom? I'll let the record show there's none no one in the audience. And I'd like to bring up a public comment and wish uh councelor um or commissioner, excuse me, commissioner Levante a happy birthday. Happy birthday. 29 again.

Okay. So, let's get back to business. All right. Uh, item number five is approval of the minutes. This is for April the 8th. Any corrections or changes? Let me know. But not I move to approve the the minutes from April the 8th. Is that right?

It's been moved by Commissioner Dunnamp, second by Commissioner Levante for approval of the April 8 minutes as presented. Any discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor say I. I.

Those opposed, nay. Hearing none, minutes are approved. All right, let's move into a the land use applications and land project monthly reports. Do we have any questions, comments on those? I have uh asked city manager Reed to kind of as a staff presentation to kind of go over some of the projects going on in town and stuff. So if there's no other questions with that, we'll wait for that later then. So hearing none, we'll move on to planning commission comments. There any comments from the planning commissioner? No, I'm I'm curious where we at with the codes of the finance.

I've not heard anything to learn from.

Uh, great question. Um, Commissioner Lenam. So we um as you recall it was sort of phased out into immediate emergency high priority um code updates and then rolling out a bigger effort after that. Um the cost identified for doing the kind of essential first things um is generally speaking within the the budget that we have for the general fund. So, we're going to just There wasn't a need to update the um Council Warrington is joined. Um sorry, oh, there we go. Um the uh so it's basically it's just moving ahead. Rowan's moving ahead. The funds for that first part are available already in the general fund. Uh we already have a professional services budget um for just miscellaneous things and the cost of it wasn't excessive this first part. So that's where that is and I know that she's uh Roman's working on um applying for funds um for the bigger work later on. So

thank you. Excuse me. I just want to add to that. Uh so if the funds are available, what are what are our next steps? I mean we've identified those pieces of the code. So are we going to start workshops or I believe so. Um, Commissioner Bonte, I would just say with Rowan gone, I don't want to misspeak on where that effort is, but the funds are available for the very first part. And so I would defer to Rowan when they get back. So maybe the committee should get back together. Maybe we can start getting together to do that preliminary stuff. Oh, the subcommittee.

Okay.

Thank you. Any other commission on that? Okay. U the UGB pack meeting was last night and uh they had uh I attended it and commissioner how was alternate alternate that was there. Commissioner Par was unable to had the scheduling issue. Um so we had they presented three concepts and I believe uh Mr. Reed do you have those available? I do. I will share the screen so that they're um I had sent these out to everyone just for comments. So there we go. Sorry, just getting the screen there. So I have I have screen captures. Oh, let me um just this that's probably good. So, um these three different concepts they presented were supposed to be um kind to be different enough so that they'd at least uh bring up conversations about what you like about it, what you don't like about it. And I think not necessarily which one is the best one because I don't think there is a best one. I think it's a combination of those things. Uh my comments that I brought up on uh this creek side park is that they have acorage of residential on south part of the highway.

I didn't like that.

Yeah. And and I know that most of us have fought fought for no residential over there. There's because of I mean the and the guy from um Glenn from ODOT was there and he said oh well you got to look at that land and I said he says you have to take that land I said no we have to look at that land if we find reasons good enough that we don't have to take it then we don't and which we've made an assession for air acres already and that's already been taken out off the table and So, I I mentioned uh there I know that there's at least one if not two properties that don't want to come in the UGB and we should uh not try to force anyone to come into the UGB that does not want to. So, I'm not sure why we want to go across 316 and worst of all why we want to make it residential. Uh we there's no adding to it. It'd just be a little thing by itself. And if I was a kid and I wanted to go downtown, the shortest way is across the highway. So, and that's the argument we used 25 years ago. So,

you get a whole lot of services over there right away. Anyways,

well, yeah, that's also an expensive to get services. So, that was I brought that that's also same in number three, which you will see. So, won't repeat on that. Uh also in concept one and will be also in two is they have residents uh residential zoning below the sp spillway of the reservoir. I just I don't understand the logic of why you would want to build below the earth dam. Uh I think it's dangerous. I think it's not smart. Um, and uh, Commissioner Levante brought up the fact that any growth to the north is going to require a whole new drainage system that's going to go to Ghost Creek. Uh, because that's why we have this huge wall at the edge of Brenhill is so that everything flows to the east and south. they had to build it up to be able to create that uh flow

slope. So, anything that's developed over there is going to have to come down through that drainage area and we already know that it's flooding on Gordon Road and so that's just going to add to it. So, uh, park area, water quality facility to prevent flooding. Those may be some things, but I think we want to look at lower impact or, uh, lower densities in that area. So, that was my comments on that. And of all the three concepts um in the souththeast uh section, it's the first time they show a curved road of some kind.

And I just think straight line roads are boring and I think they increase traffic flow. And so I think curved roads um I'd like to see some type of boulevard with a median and trees on both sides that would be a buffer between certain areas. I think that works out well. All three plans have the connection going across Pacific Street which I applaud and I think it's necessary for the city of North Plain for both transportation and for water looping. It's both in our ESP and our water master plan. Um, one thing other thing I did not like about this plan is it puts the doesn't expand anymore on the existing Sunset Ridge and doesn't allow for any buffering of the existing. We have connecting roads that go nowhere. And I thought that that should have some more residential around it. maybe more residential around the school. So, but we go to number two. So, in number two, they now they've taken out the residential on the south side and have all commercial. And I'm just not sure about, like I said before, about going across 316th and making sure we don't take in people that don't want to come in or there's a large house over there on 5 acres. Are they going to develop in 20 years? If they're not, there's no sense bringing it in because it's a waste of energy when we could put that use someplace else. Uh up in the north, they have a less resident where there's still residence below the spillway. Um,

the road coming from Main Street has a greenway on it, which I applaud for that for connection. Um, I'd like to see it on both sides. The same type of thing with trees on both sides. In the U south southeast, they this is the only map that has mixed use and they stretch the mixed use along Commercial Street. uh there probably will not be any access along that area. So having it there doesn't make a whole bunch of sense. Uh it is in connection to commercial street

excuse me on uh West Union Street. Sorry about that. on we're thinking it's commercial. Yeah. But uh on West Union, but uh we there is already the one acre of mixed use uh zoning that we have there and uh I'd like to see it more collected around that and maybe even more around the park, take advantage of that. And then again they're going into this uh same just straight line grids and I find that very boring and but they have added uh more buffering and added to the sunset ridge which was

a good addition to that. Then the slide three. I think a lot of the commissioners commented on u the commercial employment along West Union Road as something we don't want to see. It's it's a a separation of city from city. It kind of says, "Oh, you guys are there. We're there. We already have that right now. I don't think we want to add to that. Uh that's the concern we have right now on Commercial Street uh from any the possible development of duplexes along there. We have the Gleno corridor and then the commercial street corridor and then they're separated by residents. It just doesn't make good connectivity. Um they've added in the southeast they've added more housing in there but u imagination of how they did it. I'm not impressed with um the u again they had residential on the south which obviously I'm opposed to. So uh taking all those into consideration I came up to where concept four this is just a something I roughed out

and so it's taking advantage of certain things that It's below the spillway to the north west is there's park area and probably water quality facility to prevent extra flooding for drainage and all that. uh the in the south area of Payton Islands and commercial across 316th and it extends into the commercial area because that one uh property right there is says she did not want to come in. Um hopefully development in that corridor. Uh they're talking about the beach road that that would trigger some kind of signaling in the northeast corner. added to the about the park is too nice to see Main Street not go

straight lines like it was more of a curve thing to make it more pleasing to go to the park and away and then connect to um Mountain Dale and actually once it's past North it's Mountain Dale and uh so um there also I've marked out a little little block there with a question mark. There's a piece of property there that's for sale for $1.7 million on $1.59 acres. It I find it hard to believe that they're going to want to develop that. So again, why do we even consider bringing in properties that won't develop in 20 years? because I mean we're not looking at recology because they have a lease on that property. They will not come in will not be developing. So we're not even looking at adding them to PP.

How how big how long the lease on that property? I'm thinking it's a 15 20 year lease, but I'm not pro was first start. Okay. So

then going out to u the south east section um I had to we were discussing traffic percentage flows. They were talking about 25% of the traffic flowing out across the new Pacific connector to Gleno. And I just indicated that without some signaling at Glenco and Pacific, people are not going to want to sit there at that stop sign waiting to go south. So, they need to consider that and what they're doing. Um, I've kind of shaded in there where I marked residential. They have that as a park. I I think we want to try to keep residential along West Union for connectivity. Again, I talked about moving the mixuse kind of around the park and instead of the road being farther over, it kind of goes along the mixuse area. I've curved out softened the curves on uh the Pacific connector and then split it so that you could the one to the north is more of a buffer between residential and the uh employment ground and then the other one to the south. And again, you know, treeine boulevard with a median uh so that with signaling, then people have an island in the center to address that. And then south of that, I'd like to see park systems and then I always talk about a regional water quality facility. And so incorporating that in there so that not every development has to have its own water quality facility. So, so that's kind of the things that I brought up. Um, and I incorporated a number of things that you guys told me. So, if you have other comments, that

would be good to hear. Now, um I did have the guy both at I don't know Glenn was from ODON and Travis was from I forget the name of Travis's consulting firm, but he's he used to be with Sierra Architects. Um and that company no longer exists. So, he's with a different company now.

Yeah. One of the people on the pack wanted to see my concept and then they came over and they both took their pictures. So just because I think the tax sometimes they don't maybe understands in which Glenn said some of the history of why you don't do this and why you don't do that and I think a lot of that come needs to come into play. What does the city want? What's best for the city? Yeah. the tech are just the technical people that are given what the understanding is of the concepts from the process and then they they figure out right they have a slide rules

I think that was brought up too you know what's financially fiscal and all that that's all great but let's come up with a plan and then figure out what's financially fiscal from that because uh if we don't plan what we want then why even worry about So, but comments from the planning commission. I I like I think you captured a lot of the issues that I had with the the first three in concept four. So, I I likewise see that.

Anyone else? You went a little fast and I can't see that. I would love to see a copy of it if we can. Um, I'll kind of get one to digest because we're not asking us to make our No, this is just thinking about it. Yeah. I mean, there's going to be uh from my understanding, Bill, there's a community meeting coming up on May the 22nd, I believe. No,

was it? That's the that's PC city council is June 10th I believe join but there was also going to be I think a community meeting I think I heard you uh well for I think for to be perfectly honest I can't remember the the date but there the next meeting for public for citizen involvement is like a big community meeting and I think it is in the second week of June

um but I believe But what is what might be getting confused is that OPB's think out loud program is going to be here on June 11th um uh at the elementary school um at Sunset Ridge. And so um that at least in my brain perhaps is mixing up the dates, but that would be the next kind of big community meeting over. Okay. Any other questions, comments on the update? Do you need packing update? All right. And we'll move on to item eight is staff comments.

Very good. Um, thank you, chair. So, um, I was just going to kind of give a verbal report on a variety of projects that are going on. Of course, the urban growth boundary concept planning process is in full swing. Um, and you all got to discuss that there. So, I was just going to kind of run through some things that are going on. Um, and so if any if you have any questions about any of them or if something else comes to mind, be happy to, um, try to help with that. So, um, so the first big thing I guess I would say is that the Gleno opportunity area project, which is an urban renewal agency project, um, that one still crawls along, but it's moving. Um, actually on the way over here I got an I'm playing f. So the brownfield grant from the EPA is practically secured, but we are in a process of kind of going round and round over whether or not the URRA and the city are truly separate legal entities from the federal government's perspective. And until that gets settled, which they are under Oregon law, but until that gets settled to their satisfaction, we don't we don't know whether we can uh whether we need to register the grant as the city with the federal government for receiving money or we need to register have a new registration for the urban renewal agency. So this is the world of federal funding and grants and that sort of thing. So, it sounds very legalistic and technical, but that's where it's been for a little while and it's been slowed down by the occasional government shutdown. But, um, our attorneys are reviewing the information and about to, um, give us something to send at EPA just to hopefully, um, settle any last questions. But that

million dollars um will be authorized to pay for some a public outreach process as well as project management and execution of removal of up to 12 in of soil on the entire property. Before we do that, we have to remove the structures that are on the property. You've driven by, you've seen the property, it's been cleaned up of most of the brush. Um a lot of the trees, um you can for the most part see across the entire property. the structures that are standing, they obviously need to go. And then a few very large trees that we're working on getting some quotes for removal. Um so the structures we it it turns out that um our request for $275,000 to do demolition on the structures and removal of them did not make it in to the Christmas tree, what's commonly called the Christmas tree bill in the legislature. Long story there, but uh the funding request wasn't actually submitted for us. So, we didn't get money from the legislature to do that. So, I've been playing phone tag and on the way over here, I got an email from the executive director with COPAC, the Columbia Pacific Economic Development District. They're fed federally recognized district that North Plains is in. and we're going to um apply for a low interest no interest partly forgivable loan to remove the structures and those are that program works on better terms than the loan we would get from business Oregon which would not be forgivable. It could be no interest but there would be no element of it forgivable. The COPAC program revolving loan fund is a better deal for us because part of it would be forgiven. So, I'll get that nailed down with Sarah Lou. I'll take a look at the emails she sent, but I'll get that nailed down and then we can um we can have that financed. I mean, everything that every renewal agency does technically has to

be debt. Um what it does has to be borrowed money and so um that will be a loan from Colehack and we'll get the structures out of there and then we can move the dirt. Two questions. You had a buyer for the barnwood and

a local contractor who does restoration is going to we've entered we've we've finalized an agreement with him to take the barn down and he's going to salvage the wood and he's going to create something for us to go into the Kindle building. Um so we won't be spending any money but we will be getting he'll he'll he'll salvage the structure and then we'll be getting um some kind of decoration something in return. So he gets free materials. We don't spend a dime and we also get kind of a nice reuse of the wood. So So that's about subtle. So that should be happening soon.

Question on structure removal. Is that anything that TVR might want to use as a training?

Um we've discussed it. We've we've kind of floated the idea a bit. Um and I haven't like gotten a serious take on it. Like maybe one of them could be burned down for training. Um, at this point the buildings are no of no interest to the to um Washington County Sheriff's Office because they're they've been so hollowed out by the hazardous materials removal. It's down to the studs inside each of the structures. I mean, surprised nothing blew, you know, was blown over over the winter with some of the winds we had, but inside the structures are barely studs because everything was pretty much removed inside. So, I just haven't got the serious um response on doing that, but we're open to it. Um it would just be, you know, it would be char after it was all done, of course, still removed, but once they're out of the way, um we can remove the dirt. The grocery store is still very interested. They would fresh foods. They would they still would like North Plains to be their next store. They just finished opening a store up in Sebrook, Washington, and that's been a lot of work. because it is a remote store from where they're located um in Canon Beach, Manzanita. Um that's been a process and so they're still kind of distracted with making sure that new opening is working well. So they're not in a super rush to open in North Plains and they understand our time frame dealing with cleanup. So but they're still very very enthused and they would like North Plains to be next and to be kind of the first Toalatin Valley store. So, that's still on the table. The rest of the property we have to figure out um differently.

Um I have a question. Are the existing structures pretty well locked up? I've been seeing a bunch of kids circling properties, throwing rocks, kicking the doors.

I'll I'll let the I'll let the I'll let Chief know. Um we might have lost I'll double check, but we might have lost some no trespassing signs. Um what we haven't lost has I mean the windows been boarded up and the cops have been notified usually and we'll hear you know we got a report of somebody doing something. Um but I'll remind him or ask him to you know see what might be necessary if there are any further issues but with it at least with it cleared out now you could see kids doing dump yeah in ways that you couldn't before so we can we can be quicker to respond. That's good. Thanks.

Sure. Well, I just think if you get the right people remove the trees, they can drop the trees on the building and knock them down. Still got a still got a haul out. We're always thinking

creative creative way to deal with it. Um the second thing I guess I would say is that um you probably saw that the city got um million dollars from the USDA uh rural capital facilities program and that's from Congress. Uh, and so, um, Suzanne Bonamichi, uh, her staff got that request in successfully and it was funded. And that originally goes back to 2024, um, when Andy was city manager. Um, but the civic center project in downtown North Plains is really kind of meant to be a city hall of some sort. and you probably aware of that project and it was discussed in the most recently in the downtown plan process when that was in 2022 23 but um the city still doesn't have a we have the Kindle building which actually has some uses in it that mean a civic center city hall doesn't have to be as big as originally conceived but um we still don't have council chambers community meeting space that isn't this with all of its challenges um and just kind of other city space including um kind of safe modernized library space. The existing library building is as beautiful as it is. It we've run out of room and the annex is is a band-aid to the space solution. So the civic center would kind of help with that as well as general city space. Um I am about to go out in formal bid with some architects that are familiar with the project um to update the plan for the civic center. See how much smaller it will be and how less expensive it will be based on the fact that the Kindle building has been built since with a lot of state money and we don't need the the Washington County Sheriff's Office. The

police department prefer to be over a Kindle building with a secured parking and it's an emergency operations center. um with the capability to be open through disasters and other emergencies. So, they would prefer to stay there. So, we don't need a police department facility in the civic center in the same way that we had um and there's other space in the Kindle building. We don't necessarily need to build it redundantly um in the civic center. So, I'll be getting an informal bid out just to kind of do an update conceptual plan so that we have something in hand to kind of finish the process of committing the USDA funds for the citizen. So, that's kind of where that is right now. Any questions about any of that? Um, let's see. Were there any capital projects in particular? We haven't been doing I I guess the one project that I know chair you have asked about at different venues and you're you're aware of it in different ways but kind of the big project that's been on hold for a while has been this project around here the Jesse Maze perimeter project um you know as you all know we have some trees have a lot of trees including plum trees around the perimeter of the the building that are you know way past kind of their safe public trees lifespan and are increasingly a hazard. Um, as lovely as they are and as wonderful shade trees as they are, um, somebody getting hit on the head by something is a problem. And then we just, you know, there's a plan for sidewalks and improvements all the way around, um, including additional parking and a variety of things. Um we are in utility rightofway easement temporary access negotiation H double hockey stick.

It's just taking a while dealing with utilities attorneys and process making sure that we have the appropriate rightof clearance to do what we need to do and we're just not quite there yet and it's been a surprising taken a surprising amount of time. And then the background of that is dealing with the railroad um on you know issues with kind of their um right of way as kind of part of the project because when we do this project we will be doing a number of other projects that involve um you know digging up replacing upsizing pipes and then you know repaving over it with some sidewalks. Um so when this gets initiated it's going to be um some other projects around it will be sequenced so that we upsize everything underground we need to as well as you know get things in place above ground um including this project but this kicks off the rest of it and so that's why it hasn't started is just utility and railroad right ofway process. So that's where that is but we're we're winding down on that and two different attorneys at BEH working on it. So, we're getting there. Um, let's see. Any other big projects that come to mind kind of from development perspective? Um, Stuart, was there anything else that came to mind? Those are kind of things occupying our time a lot lately.

Right. And I know that there were the uh Northwest Natural Gas was changing lines and moving stuff in uh commercials or excuse me on Main Street. On Main Street. So that's another capital improvement project that must be getting at least closer. Yes. I I I guess I would just throw all of the utilities and the rightway issues with them um in one big bucket of at the speed of attorneys going back and forth. And there's the Pacific Street improvement project being planned too. Yes. Um but not ready to pull the trigger on anything. So that's way behind.

Yeah, it is. Is it true that it's only going from Gleno to Maine and not all the way down to the new 32nd, which there's only a couple pieces of properties that don't have side? I would need to check on that. I don't think that I I don't think so, but Well, that's what one of the neighbors just kind of rumored. Yeah, I don't believe that's the case, but I'll take them. Um, otherwise you would we had a workshop held by Washington County not long ago about the four-way stop that is being uh planned for Gleno uh Gleno Commercial West Union. It won't be a roundabout.

It will not be okay. It will not be a roundabout. No. One of the reasons is because um getting back to the railroad, a roundabout it a roundabout um a roundabout is big enough that ultimately it affect it kind of gets into railroad rideway issues for crossing whereas a four-way signalized light does not signalized light benefits the people that live south uh coming off of Gleno has at least caused breaks in the traffic so that coming off the civic and other streets.

Yeah. So, so the round, so the the the cons, so the roundabout is not something being talked about anymore. It's just the railroad issue makes it not possible or infeasible from you can do anything if you throw enough money at it and that's not going to work. So, it'll be a signalized um it'll be a signalized intersection and we had a the workshop that we had to kind of go over things was extremely preliminary. Um they're it'll take a while for them to kind of get all of that studied and identified. Um but they're still very early in the process, but they that meeting was just meant to kind of get people oriented to the idea of what what would be coming and what the time frame would be. Um trying to my brain's been all over the place this week. UD budget committee. So, talking about traffic stuff, is there ever any part of the conversation that goes to possibly commercial getting on to 26 at the west end of 10? Is there ever any

um I will say what Stuart has heard and doesn't like to hear every single time.

Sorry. Sorry. Bring it up. Sorry, chair. Well, I so the the reality is is that Gordon Road is barely but it is just short of a mile from it's either either Gleno or Damian and there's a minimum of one mile distance. Um, so right so the the best the best we could do and ODOT isn't isn't really seriously talking about this but the only thing they have said that could be possible under the rules currently would be um is it off or on

going west? Yeah. Yeah. My proposal was a uh offbound uh offbound west ramp that goes underneath and then swers around and then comes back up on to Commercial Street lines up with Commercial Street. It's in the area between the highway and the railroad track which is probably not going to develop much and then have a a westbound onramp from Gordon that heads down to Dersian. you know, if it keeps it all on that side kind of a of Gordon Road, so therefore it shouldn't have any problem with the traffic weave and that's why they talk about being a mile away,

you know. So I guess the bottom line is that we what we haven't heard from ODOT is no way, never. So I guess what I would say is nothing worthwhile ever got done without persistence. But but what we haven't heard from ODOT is yeah, we could we could do that. Um what I will say though is that there is a um there should be an an updated process to kind of do a corridor um corridor TSP. One hasn't been done for quite a while

and that's part of the problem um is there's just been a lot of growth in North Hillsboro. North Plains has grown. banks is on the verge of blowing up and it's getting the the transportation funding package process in in Salem even though it kind of crashed and burned the process of coming out and and seeing you know what improvements are needed and then the funding package that they res that that ultimately resulted not necessarily helping us greatly. Um, but the process did identify the need for an update and so you might see some slightly different posturing on those questions when that's done.

Okay. Thank you. I hadn't brought this up to um Rowan or to Dustin, but uh I noticed coming out of the post office that the uh property there is starting to look like a ballpark fence with all the advertisement and banners and I'm sure there's not permits for those things. So it might be kind of, you know, covering up some eyesore back there, but still, I mean, it's got to be against our code to be doing that probably. I'll check in with Rowan about it. Um, so one thing one thing that um that will be happening before long and I I I visited with the mayor today um about this and so council for Forge, you'll be hearing this you'll be hearing this ahead of people, everybody else on council, too. But um we're we're looking we're looking at a June work session to go over our code is really lacking in a bunch of different ways of course, but um the city attorney has gone through and put together a draft addition to the code um that spells out how we why and how we can and how we why we can and the conditions for how we're actually doing code enforcement. Like there's nothing in the code regarding that. Um and so we're we're going to visit the staff be visiting about it to kind of review what what's been done on Monday and then um we will discuss with council bringing it in June for the June work session and then we may have um based on feedback um you know reception to the idea and feedback we might have a an ordinance for its adoption

um in July at least that's the tenative schedule if council loves the idea of it. But the reality is is that it's it's it's practically impossible to have really firm footing to um enforce code in this town. It just is. It's just a lot of wiggle room, a lot of interpretation, a lot of um vague things, wide ranges of fees that have no real lot too much judgment call in it. So that'll be the first big step and then we can kind of get at some of these things a little better.

I noticed that uh Frank's excavation has started construction next to the Kindle public service field. Yeah, they have. And they have they pretty much have the site cleared of vegetation and it's I just am like why why can't that be the Glenco opportunity area? It's beautiful. It's flat. It's ready to go. DDT, man. It's It's That's a bad thing. Um but yes, uh they pretty much cleared out all the vegetation and are kind of in sight leveling and or should be soon.

Has there been any further movement on Far West background?

None at all. And I've been meaning to touch base with them. Um, I haven't heard from them in a while about that project. The last time I visited with them was probably four or five months ago, and they continued to express interest in a recycling facility that focused on recycling high-tech equipment from the manufacturers in in um, Hillsboro and elsewhere. So, not open to the public, come do your recycling, but specialized equipment recycling, electronics equipment recycling only, but I haven't heard anything in a few months, so that's a good reminder.

Um, I just noticed on the list there's the 313 drainage concern south of North Avenue. Do we know anything about what exactly is the issue there? No, I think that's something maybe Dustin and Brian have been visiting about. This doesn't have anything to do with the Brenhill construction. I don't think so. Okay. No, I just wondered because obviously they did work on the roads. So, yeah. No, no, not that I'm aware of. And uh any update on the commercial street duplex project?

Nothing out of them for a while. Um, we, you know, we kind of had concepts where they wanted, and this was a while ago, I think the last thing you saw is what we saw a number of months ago where they kind of had a duplex ADU type set of, you know, type structures. Um, we've heard nothing out of them. Um, I will say we had uh Kent from Kent Co. had come in uh earlier, was it earlier this week or last week? um pitching the idea of a night market on his property um and how that could recode where the food trucks are currently, but improving that spot. So, we'll see. Roland was working with him on um on what that might look like and what might be needed um regarding code compliance, but he's extremely interested in doing something like that. So, it' be kind of farmers marketing, but nighttime and once a week is the idea. So, we'll see where that goes. Okay. Um, see, um, I'm assuming with the construction on the corner of, um, Wasco and Maine, the house going there, that Wasco was finally will be opened up.

I think so. I mean, that's what I understand. Um, just kind of goes with it. So, right. Any of the planning commissioners have any questions of any of the comments? I saw or Yeah. or bring up anything else. They were flagging and marking out the parking lot at the subway. Is there anything going on there? They were they were there for two days.

Yeah. So, that's a bit of a mystery. Um, so we got somebody somebody asked the city last week, uh, or maybe it was the week before if the subway was the subway building, former subway building was in violation of any city blight code, that sort of thing. Um, and we reviewed it and our, again, our code, um, our code deems things a nuisance regarding an abandoned building. It's it's pretty narrow in terms of falling apart public safety threat, but if it's safely boarded up, even if it isn't the prettiest thing in the world, and it's not posing a, you know, a real physical hazard, um, our code's pretty narrow about that. So, there wasn't there's nothing for us to enforce at this point. Um but just to double check, we checked in with the owner and um he sent along a yeah, we've got something that's going to the community is going to be very happy with and that's that's all we heard. And so the and so you seeing them is news to me. Um what I will say is that um this from about November of 2023 through about May of 24, the city was working with um the the land use and entitlement planning firm that um Starbucks uses. And there was actively a Starbucks being planned for the the building and they were going to primarily the big changes were going to be to improve and double up the drive-thru. Um and then spring of 2024 they just sort of ghosted us. So it's just been what it is um until we sort of So we don't have a plan yet but something's brewing.

Commissioner Levante. Um, in looking at all these maps, it just made me think, um, we just went through a process at the county because initially there was a deadline at the end of April to make all web content accessible. Um, is the city working towards that? Um, yes. And, uh, so Teresa and Rowan are in honestly in the early stages of it. And um there's actually a training that LOC is going to give on that very thing soon. So we're going to avail ourselves, but we have a lot there's actually a lot of different updates and improvements that need to happen to the website.

Was quite the effort for us to get. Yeah. Yeah. So, um I am not directly involved in that effort, but um Rowan is or will be and that's something that you know we'll be working with LLC on to make sure we're doing it correctly. But since we're using consultants for all this, is it something that we can ask them to make sure they're compliant now instead of having to go back and convert them later? Yeah, that's that's perfectly reasonable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And Also a suggestion, you might remove all Washington County tax maps off the website. Not only are they very out ofd, but they're also not compliant. You sound like you're speaking from experience. Well, no. I just The maps are very old. Nobody's ever bothered to update any of them. Some of them Okay, good to know. Times. Yeah, very good. Thank you.

Did you have any other staff comments? Um, I don't I don't believe so. Um, I mean, there's a lot going on. It's, you know, maybe a little too much for everything going, you know, for, you know, city staff on a day-to-day basis, but I wouldn't say so. We're just trying to plug along on things.

Any of the commissioners have any questions or staff comments? All right. Uh then we'll move on to item nine, the city council comment. You have our council, the board. Do you have any words of wisdom for the planning commission? It's good to be here and I really enjoyed your feedback after TG meeting. Got any questions for me or anything?

Yeah. Any concerns or questions for councelor DeForest to take the city council? No, we I would just appreciate some funding to do some code updates. So, other than that, thank you for being here. Thanks for letting me be here. All right. There isn't no other commission business. Nobody out there, nobody on Zoom. Our next regular scheduled meeting is June the 10th. If not, we will adjourn at fifth grade. Lucky you got a short one, too. You guys brought a